<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862</id><updated>2024-09-27T07:21:52.606-04:00</updated><category term="atheism"/><category term="morality"/><category term="atheist"/><category term="christianity"/><category term="functionalism"/><category term="philosophy"/><category term="supervenience"/><category term="david chalmers"/><category term="functional materialism"/><category term="human"/><category term="immoral"/><category term="immorality"/><category term="materialism"/><category term="mind"/><category term="moral theory"/><category term="science"/><category term="subjective morality"/><category term="theology"/><category term="utilitarian"/><category term="utilitarianism"/><category term="zombie"/><category term="bible"/><category term="christians"/><category term="death"/><category term="dependency relationship"/><category term="dying"/><category term="heaven"/><category term="hell"/><category term="homosexual sin"/><category term="homosexuality"/><category term="immoral atheists"/><category term="john stuart mill"/><category term="moral atheists"/><category term="moral relativism"/><category term="morals"/><category term="motivation"/><category term="philosophy and love"/><category term="psychology"/><category term="relativism"/><category term="religion"/><category term="religious morality"/><category term="saint thomas aquinas"/><category term="sexual morality"/><category term="theism"/><category term="theoretical"/><category term="thomas aquinas"/><category term="zombies"/><title type='text'>Atheism and Morality</title><subtitle type='html'>An atheist run blog discussing atheism, morality, philosophy, theology, and a variety of other topics.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default?redirect=false'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>9</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-786563595567441101</id><published>2011-11-22T10:43:00.029-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-03T08:44:23.809-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="david chalmers"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="functionalism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="materialism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="mind"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="science"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="supervenience"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="zombie"/><title type='text'>The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 3)</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;To further extend my analogy of a computer, let us consider the  nature  of the data present both in a computer and in a human being as  it  relates to anomalies of nature, such as genetic mutations (an  individual  with Down Syndrome for instance). A question to ask is, &quot;How  can we  account for such anomalies when we consider the nature of human  beings  as we perceive them a priori?&quot; &lt;strong&gt;It would seem that an  overwhelming  majority of individuals who were asked to describe a human  being would  not, at least initially, describe the figure of an  individual with Down  Syndrome (or any other chromosomal anomaly). &lt;/strong&gt;The  a priori judgment that  individuals with chromosomal anomalies do not  initially fit our perception of a human being, in part due to their  significant  minority in comparison to the rest of the world, seems like  a fair  observation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a broad sense, it would seem that  every being is composed of data,  though at different levels. We  frequently are caught up in examining the  difference between humans and  other non-humans, in terms of thought  processes and instinct; though  all beings exist in a hierarchical system  (as dictated by evolution),  and are by nature encoded to act and  function in such a way. We can  consider Social Dominance Theory to  further examine and understand the  nature of this system.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Social  Dominance Theory begins with the basic observation that all  human  societies tend to be structured as systems of group-based social   hierarchies. At the very minimum, this hierarchical social structure   consists of one or a small number of dominant and hegemonic groups at   the top and one or a number of subordinate groups at the bottom   (Sidanius, 31).&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;While the theory pertains primarily to human social  constructs, it  is easy to imagine this concept being adapted in such a  way that we may  examine alternative species in relative comparison to  our own. Perhaps  most relevant to discussion of the similarities between  human beings  and lesser animals is an issue of how violence plays a  vital role in  the formation of beliefs, group structures, and hierarchy  in general. &lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Systematic terror (the use of violence or threats of  violence  disproportionately directed against subordinates) functions to  maintain  expropriative relationships between dominants and subordinates  and  enforce the continued deference of subordinates toward dominants   (Sidanius, 41).&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;As one may examine, there is little difference (as   observations can tell us) between human beings and animals in terms of   how power and control is kept. Though, it may be obvious that humans   have adapted in such a way that &quot;systematic terror&quot; may be subtler; it   still exists and is frequently used in one form or another. The very   nature of the police department, for example, is in part to invoke fear   into otherwise animalistic and anarchist human beings so they do not  act  out in morally and ethically apprehensible ways. The importance of  understanding  social dominance and hierarchy is to allow a realization  that the  similarities between humans and lesser animals are undeniably  close when  one removes the idea that humans are &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&quot;superior&quot;&lt;/span&gt; (in that,  their actions  differ due to &quot;mental&quot; attributes).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In direct  relation to chromosomal &quot;anomalies&quot; as discussed earlier, it  would  appear that, given the nature of the hierarchical system we exist   within, any &quot;anomaly&quot; in this system is not truly an anomaly (though it   may appear to be at first glance); but simply encoded into the nature  of  the system in such a way that it is merely a minority. &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;It would  appear  that, over time, all anomalies would simply come to be viewed as   minorities as they find a place in new or adapted physical theories.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Throughout the ages of scientific exploration, human beings are only  now  beginning to understand the nature of the body; though, in ways  that  our ancestors may have never been able to dream of or even  fantasize  about in their imaginations. As time continues, the nature of  the  physical body is slowly explaining the nature of the &quot;mind&quot; as it  has  been viewed for millennia. As science furthers the exploration of   microbial cells and neurological systems, human beings will be able to make more and more   rational judgments regarding why particular sensations are occurring  and  how elements of our nature function.&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;To utilize a relatively extreme  example, one may consider  hallucinogenic drugs and how some individuals  claim to have &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&quot;spiritual&quot;&lt;/span&gt;  mental experiences. For example, in a study  done on the effects of  Psilocybin; results were found that Psilocybin  &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&quot;produced a range of  acute perceptual changes, subjective experiences,  and labile moods  including anxiety. Psilocybin also increased measures  of mystical  experience. At 2 months, the volunteers rated the psilocybin  experience  as having substantial personal meaning and spiritual  significance and  attributed to the experience sustained positive changes  in attitudes  and behavior consisted with changes rated by community  observers  (Griffins, et al., 1).&quot;&lt;/span&gt; By studying science and psychology,  one may be  able to draw a conclusion that there are simply chemical  alterations  occurring within the brain (as well as throughout the entire  body as a  whole). &lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Hallucinogenic drugs cause both physical and  psychological effects  on humans. The physical effects of these drugs  include: dilated pupils,  elevated body temperature, increased heart rate  and blood pressure,  appetite loss, sleeplessness, tremors, headaches,  nausea, sweating,  heart palpitations, blurring of vision, memory loss,  trembling, and  itching. A user of hallucinogenic drugs will also  experience a number  of psychological alterations in the brain. These  drugs may cause  hallucinations and illusions as well, as the  amplification of sense,  and the alterations of thinking and  self-awareness (Ebbitt).&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The sensory perception of being out of the  body or flying is simply  an interaction between physical chemicals and  functional mental states,  and is therefore an altered physical state. For the many whom cling to  conceptions of the supernatural, a materialistic atheist would simply right  those experiences off as a &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;delusion&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The mind is constructed  through physical processes (as it is in itself  an alternative physical  state [mental]. When one examines the  functionalist theory of the mind,  there are many qualities that appear  to be accurate a priori. For  example, it is reasonable to believe that  most rational individuals  would, in the least, believe in mental states.  This does not force a  belief in dualism (or minimally, a strict  dualism) as there are no two  substances (physical and mental). The  fundamental flaw with  functionalism is that, as a theory, it seemingly  plays it safe by only  acknowledging the reality of what most people  would agree with. Due to  this, the functionalist theory allows too much  room for sensible  opposition; and as far as my argument for materialism  is concerned,  allows too much room for an opposing dualist to then  insist on two  separate substances because there are two different states  (mental and  physical).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Materialism appears to be the most concise  evaluation of the mental and  physical, though often it is viewed in  such a way that mental states do  not exist at all. It would appear to  me that the best solution to this  dilemma is merging some functionalist  ideas with materialism. Functionalists would say that &quot;mental states  are functional states.&quot; As  a materialist, I am pressed to further this  logical thought process. &lt;strong&gt; Mental states are functional states, and functional states are physical  states.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;To examine this in a logical equation, it would be as follows: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;  Mental states (A) are Functional states (B), and Functional states (B)   are Physical states (C); therefore Mental states (A) are Physical states   (C).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The supervenience of mental states on physical substances appears  to  be a very logical conclusion to draw, though it may be a matter of   sheer linguistics and a common public misconception (&lt;em&gt;the fallacy of  argumentum ad populum&lt;/em&gt;: &quot;the appeal to the masses&quot;) that we perceive the mind as being much more than  dependent on physical material.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:130%;&quot;&gt;For those who missed the first two installments of this article series, check out the following links:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie.html&quot;&gt;The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 1)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie_22.html&quot;&gt;The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 2)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Hopefully you enjoyed this rather long article series on the supervenience of the mind and the human zombie. I understand it is a rather complex topic on the whole, so if you have any questions or see any problems with my line of thinking, please feel free to leave a comment and let me know below! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/786563595567441101/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie_7756.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/786563595567441101'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/786563595567441101'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie_7756.html' title='The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 3)'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-1466469727820658645</id><published>2011-11-22T10:31:00.019-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-03T08:43:50.023-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheist"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="david chalmers"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="functional materialism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="functionalism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="human"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="supervenience"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="zombies"/><title type='text'>The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 2)</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;To  further begin my argument for materialism (and by extension, an atheistic worldview), I will be analyzing  the  nature of zombies as human beings perceive them through our rampant   imaginations in films, comic books,  mythic lore, and popular culture.  In David Chalmers&#39; article, &lt;em&gt;&quot;Can  Consciousness Be Reductively Explained&quot;&lt;/em&gt;,  he argues that there is a  logical possibility that zombies could  exist; as they are essentially  like &quot;lesser&quot; and &quot;unconscious&quot; animals;  however &lt;em&gt;they have the same  physical form as a human being.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;He (the zombie) is physically identical to me, and we may as well   suppose that he is embedded in an identical environment. He will   certainly be identical to me functionally: he will be processing the   same sort of information, reacting in a similar way to inputs, with his   internal configurations being modified appropriately and with   indistinguishable behavior resulting. He will psychologically be   identical to me. He will even be &quot;conscious&quot; in the functional  senses  described earlier - he will be awake, able to report the contents  of  his internal states, able to focus attention in various places, and  so  on. It is just that none of this functioning will be accompanied by  any  real conscious experience. There will be no phenomenal feel. There  is  nothing it is like to be a zombie.&quot; -  David Chalmers&lt;/blockquote&gt;  The fear often associated with zombies in movies and other artistic mediums tend to stem from the fact that, &lt;em&gt;if zombies would  come to exist; it would make the most sense that they would spawn from  our own species&lt;/em&gt;  (the human being). The fear that some sort of plague or  nuclear  fallout would give rise to an enemy so familiar, but yet so  different  and terrifying is very sensible; and perhaps is a valid reason  to  examine zombies in a philosophical manner. Popular culture and  movies  have, specifically, engrained our minds with almost tangible  images of  zombies; often extremely mutilated and gored,&lt;strong&gt; though  physically very similar to human beings&lt;/strong&gt;.   While &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD6&quot;&gt;Hollywood&lt;/span&gt; and many other outlets have primarily portrayed zombies  as, essentially, blood-thirsty, mythological monsters; &lt;strong&gt;Chalmers has  envisioned what one may deem a &quot;functional&quot; zombie.&lt;/strong&gt;  A being that would  be capable of coexisting with humans (instead of  attempting to murder  and eat them). To further, and perhaps leave, his  point; I am interested  in the nature of a zombie (a strictly physical  being with no mental  states or substances) in comparison to a human  being (a strictly  physical being with mental states). &lt;em&gt;For all  intents and purposes, zombies  and human beings are one in the same;  except when we examine the  supervenience of the mind on the body that is special to human beings.&lt;/em&gt; Despite  this relatively minor difference, the  similarities between a human and a zombie are  undeniable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;My argument  for materialism is then dependent on attempting  to logically conclude  that a human being and a zombie (both as  described above) are equal,  despite what I would deem a superficial  difference (a supervenient  mind).&lt;/span&gt;   For the sake of my argument, I will  give an example where I will  describe two different human beings. As  one can observe in day-to-day  life, the human species is very diverse  in that each individual has  numerous differences on multiple levels  (from &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD2&quot;&gt;skin&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD5&quot;&gt;tone&lt;/span&gt; to genetic make-up). &lt;em&gt;It would appear that these physical qualities  are superficial when one is asked to describe the &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD3&quot;&gt;appearance&lt;/span&gt; and  overall nature of a human being.&lt;/em&gt;  For example, if two men are sitting in a  room; one is African and the  other a Caucasian, would we view each  individual as separate species?  Or in our examination of the men will we  seemingly ignore the  significant difference between the two: &lt;em&gt;skin  color.&lt;/em&gt; It would appear that skin  color (as well as most other features  of a human being) is also  superficial, and what would define a being as a  &quot;human&quot; is much more  broad (perhaps, a general body shape like the  Vitruvian Man by Leonardo Da Vinci, bone  structure as a fundamentally observable  foundation, or even a specific  neurological framework).   Assuming features of the body are superficial, and therefore are  strictly dependent on other aspects of the body (there is no skin color  without a bone structure, for instance); &lt;strong&gt;it would appear that a  dependent mind would be equally superficial if it is exclusively  dependent on a physical body.&lt;/strong&gt;  Without a mutually exclusive mind  substance, mind states logically  must depend on the physical body in the  same way observable features  (such as skin tone) are. If this is truly  the case, then &lt;em&gt;mental states appear to be nothing more than an anomaly&lt;/em&gt;,  perhaps developed through evolutionary means.    To reexamine the zombie and the human being explained earlier, a zombie   and a human both appear to be equal to one another; despite the human   beings&#39; mental states. This is due to &quot;mental&quot; states equaling physical   states (&lt;em&gt;identity theory&lt;/em&gt;). Logically, my argument would be as follows:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If  mental states (A) equal physical states (B), then strictly physical   zombies (B) must equal humans with mental states (AB). To further this   logic by removing the variable &quot;mental states&quot;, since I have concluded   that mental states equal physical states, then: physical states (A)   contain both zombies (B) and human beings (C).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;float: left; position: relative; bottom: 0; margin-right: 20px;&quot;&gt; &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p&gt;  Upon reaching this rather general conclusion, I feel it is important to  backtrack and consider qualia (&lt;em&gt;subjective experience&lt;/em&gt;)  as it is a vital  element that is frequently debated when considering  the nature of the  mind, and for those engaged in folk psychological  thought processes, an  element that may define one&#39;s &quot;soul&quot; in the  afterlife. In truth, as far  as my argument is concerned, subjective  feels are of no significant  value in similar fashion as mental states  are of no significant value.  &lt;em&gt;It would appear that every &quot;subjective&quot; experience is simply programmed  by nature.&lt;/em&gt;  For example, I subjectively experience eating a piece of pie.  I am  able to utilize my physical senses, such as taste and smell, while  I do  this. The qualities of my personal experience eating the pie are   merely sensory inputs, which I then am able to perceive and distinguish   between. While there is subjective experience, it is limited to  physical  constructs (and perhaps mental states, though one could argue  that  beings with no mental states, such as a zombie or a dog, still may  have  subjective experiences; in that their experiences are different  relative  to another beings).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;  For a more in depth example of qualia as it fits into a  functional materialistic view, consider the nature of a computer. It  seems that the mind is essentially a &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD1&quot;&gt;compilation&lt;/span&gt;  of &quot;coding&quot; on  which we rely which allows us to function in such a way  that appears to be  free, yet without being completely free (separate  from the physical  body). Much like one can not run a video game without  a video game  console, or HTML code a website without a computer; &lt;em&gt;the human animal may  have a mind&lt;/em&gt; (a video game, HTML code) &lt;em&gt;but its value and existence is  solely dependent on its processor &lt;/em&gt;(the  body, a video game console, a  computer). It would seem that due to  these dependency relationships,  existence (and by extension, any other  concept that requires a  conscious, existent being to exist, such as  freedom, beauty, and  national pride) is very linear due to one being  (or part of a being)  needing to exist prior to another is even capable  of existing. In  strictly physical terms, one can examine the process of  conception.&lt;em&gt; I  did not exist prior to being conceived by my parents, nor does my  potential future son exist at the present time&lt;/em&gt;  (even if he may come into  existence in the future). Mental states  exist in the same way. No one  was developing video games for the  Playstation 3 until the Playstation 3  (hardware) was developed. HTML  coding was not being used until  computers were invented, and any  concept of HTML code was non-existent  until computers were created. &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;In a  more broad sense, as it relates to  the mind and body, the mind only  comes into existence &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot; class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD4&quot;&gt;after the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt; physical  body is created.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For those who missed it, here is the first part of this article series: &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie.html&quot;&gt;The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 1) &lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The final part can be viewed here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie_7756.html&quot;&gt;The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 3)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/1466469727820658645/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie_22.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/1466469727820658645'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/1466469727820658645'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie_22.html' title='The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 2)'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-1288579204441018130</id><published>2011-11-22T10:09:00.030-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-03T08:44:02.608-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="dependency relationship"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="functional materialism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="functionalism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="human"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="materialism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="mind"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="philosophy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="psychology"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="science"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="supervenience"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="theoretical"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="zombie"/><title type='text'>The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 1)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9PSi4d9w-HQ/Tsu_zkXcnqI/AAAAAAAAAEY/GIIJKjqocbA/s1600/atheism_and_morality_zombie_picture.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 300px;&quot; src=&quot;http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9PSi4d9w-HQ/Tsu_zkXcnqI/AAAAAAAAAEY/GIIJKjqocbA/s400/atheism_and_morality_zombie_picture.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5677842647886896802&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PHOTO CREDIT: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fotopedia.com/items/flickr-3291857108&quot;&gt;Fotopedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Questions regarding the mind and the body  have plagued humanity for  as long as we could think, and more so as we  evolved in such a way that has allowed us  to read, write, and share our  thoughts with one another. The  question of why we exist (if for any  reason at all), and what this  existence exactly is has always been an  important question; and human  beings (in all of our superiority in the  hierarchy of animals) still  lack the ability to give a concise answer.  Countless theories have been  thrown around, however it would appear (by  mere speculation) that many  individuals adhere to &quot;mainstream&quot;  philosophical theories; whether  they be theories provided in social  settings (through the church, for  example) or through other social means  (hearing someone talk about  being an atheist on television). While  there are some redeeming  qualities of this &quot;sheep-like&quot; mentality, such  as the opportunity to  engage in a social environment or simply have  something in common with  others who adhere to a particular religion or  non-religion;&lt;strong style=&quot;font-weight: normal; font-style: italic;&quot;&gt; as individuals tend to lose ourselves if we do not  examine our own beliefs more closely&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;  I am in most respects very  critical of my own thought processes, and  therefore will be writing this article with the intent to structure my  belief in what I deem functional  materialism. I will begin by examining  the nature of supervenience, the  mind as it has been conceived in  modern times, similarities and  differences between zombies and human  beings, strict materialism, and  finally functional materialism.    Supervenience is perhaps one of the most interesting concepts I have   come across in all of my philosophical studies. In mainstream views, the   &quot;mind&quot; is not typically viewed as anything less than existing on its   own (or plainly, not existing at all). For example, in most mainstream  &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD2&quot;&gt;Christian churches&lt;/span&gt;;  it is taught that the mind is the soul; and that  soul will continue to  live even after death of the physical body. The  cultural requirement of viewing the physical and potentially  non-physical as two &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD6&quot;&gt;separate&lt;/span&gt; entities  seems to exist, albeit with a graceful subtlety. This is a dualistic way of thinking which dates back to very early philosophers and thinkers like Renee Descartes and Socrates (and even further back before them).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Supervenience, however, indicates that  there may be a dependency relationship between the mind and body.&lt;/strong&gt; In layman&#39;s terms, there is an area of grey amidst the extreme ends of the  black and white dichotomous spectrum. While this may, at least in theory, go either  way (the mind  supervenes on the body, the body supervenes on the mind)  the former is  typically the most examined concept due to the qualities  of the  physical being more tangible than those that make up the mind. In   short, most people are more willing to accept that the physical realm   exists in comparison to a notion of the &lt;em&gt;mind which requires metaphysical  analysis&lt;/em&gt;. Some people consider themselves to be solipsists, who believe that we cannot even know that the physical world exists. I will not be addressing these individuals in this article, as I feel their viewpoint on the world creates an outlook that cannot even be discussed because we utilize the physical world when we speak, write, and so forth. If you doubt the mere existence of the physical words on your screen, then you cannot hold a valid conversation on anything really.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyways, in the case of this article, any reference to supervenience will  be  referring exclusively to the mind supervening on the body unless   otherwise noted. &lt;em&gt;The dependency relationship present in this form of   supervenience would be that of mental events requiring physical  substances  and causing physical events.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;There is no mutually exclusive mental  substance.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;p&gt;  In the same way that there can be multiple forms of supervenience,  there  can also be multiple different ways of perceiving the mind. One  of the  most important factors I consider when I examine the nature of  the mind  is its &lt;em&gt;fallibility&lt;/em&gt;. If the mind is a substance and  exists in an  alternative plane of existence (though is still present in  our physical  world), I would fathom that human beings should be  capable of one  hundred percent accuracy as far as what the nature of  this &quot;mind-world&quot;  is like. &lt;strong&gt;It seems fairly illogical to believe  in a mind substance,  though not understand, in the least, the general  nature of its very  existence outside of the physical realm.&lt;/strong&gt; I am a materialist on &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD3&quot;&gt;the  account&lt;/span&gt;  that I am able to examine the physical realm, and in the least  know  all there is to know about it on a general, observational level. In  comparison,  &lt;em&gt;human beings know nothing of the mind except for what can be observed  through physical senses.&lt;/em&gt;  For example, a psychologist may study the mind;  however the nature of  the mind is tightly connected to the nature of  the physical body (even  on a neurological level). A majority of modern  psychological theories  would indicate that there are mental states,  however they are dependent  on physical states. &lt;em&gt;There is no mind being  examined without a patient, nor is their a mind being examined that is  separate from a physical being.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; There is something it is like to be a  physical being. Similarly, there is nothing it is like to be a mind  substance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Furthermore, it is important to examine the mind as it has been   perceived throughout the ages in folk psychology. Folk psychology is   generally a form of thinking that is viewed as &quot;common-sense&quot; thinking,   however this definition is not entirely accurate as the concepts   developed through folk psychology are typically those that are easiest   to explain and conceptualize; and not necessarily those that hold much   weight once further analyzed. Folk psychology may also be viewed as   &quot;popular belief&quot; as adherents to folk beliefs are abundant, even in   modern day. A very common &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD4&quot;&gt;conception&lt;/span&gt;  of the mind is that it is a  substance that exists mutually exclusively  from the body (Cartesian  dualism), often in a form typically called  the soul (a strictly mental  being). In folk psychology, the mind and  the soul are typically words  that are interchangeable; the former  typically invoking a concept of the  mind while it is with the body; and  the latter expressing a concept of  the mind when the physical body  dies and only it is left.   From this basic concept of the soul, numerous other &lt;span class=&quot;IL_AD&quot; id=&quot;IL_AD5&quot;&gt;ideas&lt;/span&gt;  have been  considered; such as concepts of an afterlife (generally,  where the  mind/soul go after physical death), concepts related to  god(s), and even  attempts at rationalizing folk psychology by  describing the mind as  ether (a substance from the heavens). For  example, one common concern  many individuals tend to have at some point  in their life is the nature  of the afterlife (if there is one at all).  For myself (and countless  others), &lt;em&gt;the notion of Hell &lt;/em&gt;(as  portrayed in the Bible, and depicted  through art and literature such as  in Dante&#39;s&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt; Inferno&lt;/span&gt; and in Gustave  Dore&#39;s paintings depicting Hell) &lt;em&gt;is a very frightening concept which  begs the question,&lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&quot;If  I truly have a soul and am aware of the potential  consequences, why am  I not following the guidelines for salvation from  this damnation?&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; The questions I have come to pose against this are,  &lt;em&gt;&quot;Why  can I not know with one hundred percent certainty that this is the   true nature of the potential afterlife? Why can I not be fully aware   that my mind is a substance that will continue to exist after my body   dies?&quot;&lt;/em&gt; Inevitably, in depth analysis of each of these concepts  alone  would require multiple articles to be written (and perhaps I will  do this at a later time); however it is important to  acknowledge the general  public perception of the mind as it is portrayed  in the media, in  church, in school, and in other social environments.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Read on to the next parts in this article series using the following links:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie_22.html&quot;&gt;The Supervenience of the Mind and The Human Zombie Part 2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie_7756.html&quot;&gt;The Supervenience of the Mind and The Human Zombie Part 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/1288579204441018130/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/1288579204441018130'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/1288579204441018130'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/supervenience-of-mind-and-human-zombie.html' title='The Supervenience of The Mind and The Human Zombie (Part 1)'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9PSi4d9w-HQ/Tsu_zkXcnqI/AAAAAAAAAEY/GIIJKjqocbA/s72-c/atheism_and_morality_zombie_picture.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-6275475007037768244</id><published>2011-11-19T08:17:00.032-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-19T09:55:24.912-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheist"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="bible"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="christianity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="homosexual sin"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="homosexuality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="philosophy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="philosophy and love"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="religious morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="saint thomas aquinas"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="sexual morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="theology"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="thomas aquinas"/><title type='text'>An Atheist&#39;s Perspective on Religious Morality and Homosexual Sin: St. Thomas Aquinas Analysis</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur=&quot;try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}&quot; href=&quot;http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R5X_CLcY4fc/Tse5KWQDkxI/AAAAAAAAACw/dnRfhWIPxRY/s1600/st._thomas_aquinas_homosexual_sin_sexual_morality.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 313px; height: 400px;&quot; src=&quot;http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R5X_CLcY4fc/Tse5KWQDkxI/AAAAAAAAACw/dnRfhWIPxRY/s400/st._thomas_aquinas_homosexual_sin_sexual_morality.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; id=&quot;BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5676709442746553106&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;In this article I will be discussing the major points and analyzing the essay written by &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas&quot;&gt;St. Thomas Aquinas&lt;/a&gt; titled &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family:arial;font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;“Of the Reason for which Simple Fornication is a Sin by Divine Law, and of the Natural Institution of Marriage.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;For those interested in having an educated viewpoint on the thoughts of Thomas Aquinas on sexual morality and homosexuality, I would highly suggest reading his essay. It is available for free online at &lt;a href=&quot;http://maritain.nd.edu/jmc/etext/gc3_122.htm&quot;&gt;this link&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As an atheist, it is my intent to be able to make informed decisions about a variety of different topics, religious and non-religious. Since many Christians would claim my understanding of the Bible is flawed (because I do not believe in God, and therefore cannot possibly comprehend it&#39;s words), I have decided to look outside of the box to better understand Christian theology. It should be noted, I am an &quot;ex-Christian&quot; for all intent and purposes. My experiences with Christianity are very diverse, some good and some not so good. My reasons for becoming an atheist are much more academic then emotional, though I do admit that emotions played into my original falling out from the church in general. It was a progression from emotions to rational thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I stumbled upon this essay by Thomas Aquinas in a book I had purchased for a philosophy course entitled &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&quot;Human Love and Sexual Morality.&quot;&lt;/span&gt; I have read through quite a few of the essays and articles contained within it, and if you are interested in learning about the topics of love and sexual morality I would highly suggest picking it up. You will see references to page numbers in the following essay I have written, and I would like to be clear that they are referencing the page numbers found within this philosophy textbook titled &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&quot;Philosophy and Sex&quot;&lt;/span&gt; by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;ptBrand&quot;   style=&quot;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;Robert B. Baker and Kathleen J. Wininger. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;Below are some links to this book as well as some other philosophical and theological writings on the topic of sexual morality, homosexuality, and writings of Thomas Aquinas, and atheism as well. As a note: I have read all of these books and found them to be worthy of my own time. I will only ever suggests books I have read and found to be worthwhile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blank&amp;amp;bc1=transparent&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;nou=1&amp;amp;bg1=transparent&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;lc1=FF0000&amp;amp;t=aam06-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=as1&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;f=ifr&amp;amp;ref=tf_til&amp;amp;asins=1591026091&quot; style=&quot;width:120px;height:240px;&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;iframe src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=aam06-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=as1&amp;amp;asins=0199540276&amp;amp;nou=1&amp;amp;ref=tf_til&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;lc1=FF0000&amp;amp;bc1=transparent&amp;amp;bg1=transparent&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; style=&quot;width:120px;height:240px;&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;iframe src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=aam06-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=as1&amp;amp;asins=1581344856&amp;amp;nou=1&amp;amp;ref=tf_til&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;lc1=FF0000&amp;amp;bc1=transparent&amp;amp;bg1=transparent&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; style=&quot;width:120px;height:240px;&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;iframe src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=aam06-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=8&amp;amp;l=as1&amp;amp;asins=1573929875&amp;amp;nou=1&amp;amp;ref=tf_til&amp;amp;fc1=000000&amp;amp;IS2=1&amp;amp;lt1=_blank&amp;amp;m=amazon&amp;amp;lc1=FF0000&amp;amp;bc1=transparent&amp;amp;bg1=transparent&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; style=&quot;width:120px;height:240px;&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:130%;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;St. Thomas Aquinas, Christian Sexual Morality and Homosexuality &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;           &lt;style&gt; &lt;!--  /* Font Definitions */ @font-face  {font-family:Arial;  panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;  mso-font-charset:0;  mso-generic-font-family:auto;  mso-font-pitch:variable;  mso-font-signature:3 0 0 0 1 0;}  /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal  {mso-style-parent:&quot;&quot;;  margin:0in;  margin-bottom:.0001pt;  mso-pagination:widow-orphan;  font-size:100%;  font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;  mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;;  mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} @page Section1  {size:8.5in 11.0in;  margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;  mso-header-margin:.5in;  mso-footer-margin:.5in;  mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1  {page:Section1;} --&gt; &lt;/style&gt;       &lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Arial;&quot;&gt;            &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Arial;font-family: Arial;font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;Thomas Aquinas touches on the nature of marriage and sexual sin in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic; font-family: Arial;font-family: Arial;font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;“Of the Reason for which Simple Fornication is a Sin by Divine Law, and of the Natural Institution of Marriage.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Arial;font-family: Arial;font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt; While homosexuality is not directly discussed in his writing, the implications of his views on marriage and sexual sin in general trickle over and allow the reader to begin understanding his perception of homosexuality and how it is undoubtedly a sin according to the moral law he abides by.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Arial;font-family: Arial;font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count:1;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;Aquinas has provided several reasons why he views homosexuality as wrong. Again, while he does not explicitly discuss the issue of homosexuality, he describes the nature of what constitutes a sexual sin. There are several points Aquinas makes that are heavily related to his apparent perception that homosexuality is sinful. These include&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;1.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; The fact that the emission of semen is sinful if for any reason other then reproduction&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;2.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; That fornication is inherently sinful in all contexts (IE: sex outside of wedlock)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;and&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;3.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; That marriage should between a male and female only (as this is natural).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial; font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;These three bullet points are the main sections of this article on homosexual sin and religious morality. You can find each of these sections elaborated on and critiqued below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count:1;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;1.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; Sex for any purpose outside of reproduction in Aquinas’ view suggests that it is unnatural to desire pleasure from sexual relationships. On page 65 Aquinas states, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;“The emission of the semen then ought to be so directed as that both the proper generation may ensue and the education of the offspring be secured. Hence it is clear that every emission of the semen is contrary to the good of man, which takes place in a way whereby generation is impossible; and if this is done on purpose, it must be a sin.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; This is a view not exclusively held by Aquinas, as it has been a staple of Catholic church tradition (as well as the tradition of many other religious and cultural customs) throughout the years. He seems to suggest throughout his writing that sexual morality and the moral law in general is not just natural, but divine. God himself has created nature, so it is expected that we function in such a manner that is “natural” (and by extension, “divine”). Aquinas further perceives the emission of semen for reasons outside of reproduction to be a particularly evil thing. On page 66 his states, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;“…After the sin of murder, whereby a human nature already in actual existence is destroyed, this sort of sin seems to hold the second place whereby the generation of human nature is precluded.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; It is apparent through this quote that he perceives the intentional spilling of semen (for reasons outside of reproduction) to be a great evil, and one that is very much comparable to murder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial; font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count:1;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;The inevitable problem with this argument is that it has little to no basis on biological law. While it may be natural to want to copulate and utilize sex as a method of being able to reproduce, sexual desire is not strictly dependent on reproduction; but can result from a desire for pleasure as well (among other things, such as a desire for power and dominance). It could even be argued that pleasure is more desirable (and hence, more “natural”) because when we look for potential mates we often examine their physical attributes, intellectual abilities, and sexual skill sets. We examine these qualities because if a person scores highly in these categories, they are likely to be a very pleasurable partner. The desire to reproduce simply follows other desires one might have, or may simply happen by accident as a result of sexual conduct for pleasurable purposes.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial; font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count:1;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;2.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; Further building on what “natural” sex is, Aquinas views fornication as inherently sinful. As he sees it, sex is not just an intimate act between one individual and another; but is rather the manifestation of the entire society and perhaps even the universe at large. This becomes increasingly evident when one examines how he views the nature of relationships in relation to sexual intercourse. He touches on how a couple should be monogamous, and furthermore how this is evidenced in nature. On page 65 he says, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;“Hence the fitness of human life requires man to stand by woman after the sexual act is done, and not go off at once and form connections with any one he meets, as is the way of fornicators.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; In the Catholic tradition, fornication is viewed as a major sexual sin and Aquinas’ writings only solidify that notion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial; font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count:1;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;Fornication is not in and of itself inherently evil. As biology would suggest, we are not necessarily monogamous creatures. Many animals in the wild take many sexual partners, and following in this animalistic tradition, so do human beings. The main objection with Aquinas’ argument against fornication is how heavily tied it is to the dogma of the Catholic church. There is no biological basis for believing fornication and non-monogamous relationships are evil. However, one may come to this conclusion based on societal expectations. For example, adultery is frowned upon in most cultures where monogamy is primarily accepted. While I would agree that adultery is not appropriate conduct, I would not take my view so far as to believe that every sexual relationship outside of a monogamous marriage is necessarily evil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial; font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count:1;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;3.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt; Finally, Aquinas touches on the nature of marriage and suggests that it should only be between a man and a woman. The notion of a homosexual relationship is not even brought up outright in his writing, though it becomes fairly evident that he perceives homosexuality as a sin in and of itself. On page 68 with reference to marriage Aquinas states, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;“good manners involve the indissolubility of the union of male and female: for they will love one another with greater fidelity, when they know that they are indissolubly united.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;The very nature of a relationship is one that requires monogamous heterosexual couplings bound by marriage that is socially accepted. As such, homosexuals are not able to partake of marriage (at least in this traditional, Catholic sense).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial; font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count:1;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;The major objection to this concept of heterosexual only marriage is one that is increasingly prominent in current times. It is becoming more and more evident that relationships can be had between people of many different types, whether they be homo or hetero relationships. Aquinas does not address homosexual relationships and marriage, so it is hard to propose a concrete objection against his viewpoint on the matter; however it is evident that he only believes heterosexual couples can be married and bear the fruits of love and sexual relations. Pairing the theological writings of Aquinas with Biblical Scripture makes the Christian churches view of homosexuality and homosexual marriage very obvious:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&quot;Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of  God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor  adulterers, nor&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt; homosexuals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous,  nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom  of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were  sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by  the Spirit of our God.&quot; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;(1 Corinthians 6:9-11)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;Conclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-size:100%;&quot;  &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p  style=&quot;font-family: arial;font-family:arial;&quot; class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-tab-count:1;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:100%;&quot;&gt;On the whole I do not agree with Aquinas on homosexuality or sexual morality. These moral guidelines are dependent on church doctrine, which itself is dependent on the manifestation of a deity. I do not believe in a metaphysical deity, and therefore have no reason to accept the moral guidelines set forth by the church and the writings of Aquinas. With that said, many of these views are also cultural, which makes them at least understandable when considered in a historical context. Even non-religious individuals can hold similar views as it relates to examining the “natural” way things should be. My major gripe comes to play with how he defines the “natural” manner of things. For example, I believe anything contained within the physical universe is “natural.” Homosexuality, sexual urges, desires, and fetishes are all natural. As such, I find I disagree with Aquinas completely. In order to come to the conclusion that there exist sexually immoral acts, it would be important to have verification that the dogma one which morality is based is completely accurate. As such, the Christian church, while popular in modern society, does not have a completely valid evidential basis. At the end of the day, it is a requirement of faith that one must have in order to believe in God, Jesus Christ, and that there is in some sense absolute morality. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;font-size:100%;&quot; &gt;Without this evidential base, how can anyone expect society on the whole to take these beliefs on morality seriously? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;  style=&quot;font-family: Arial;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;iframe src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=aam06-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=26&amp;amp;l=ur1&amp;amp;category=books&amp;amp;banner=0GDEZK2MM2XGCEH7M202&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;border:none;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;60&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; width=&quot;468&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Arial;font-family: Arial;&quot; &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; face=&quot;Arial&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-spacerun: yes&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Arial;font-family: Arial;&quot; &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Discussion: Feel free to leave a comment below on this controversial topic. If you disagree with my interpretation of St. Thomas Aquinas&#39; essay, feel free to let me know. I&#39;m happy to hear other viewpoints without a doubt, just keep your comments civil and respectful. &lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/6275475007037768244/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/religious-morality-and-homosexual-sin.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/6275475007037768244'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/6275475007037768244'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/religious-morality-and-homosexual-sin.html' title='An Atheist&#39;s Perspective on Religious Morality and Homosexual Sin: St. Thomas Aquinas Analysis'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R5X_CLcY4fc/Tse5KWQDkxI/AAAAAAAAACw/dnRfhWIPxRY/s72-c/st._thomas_aquinas_homosexual_sin_sexual_morality.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-4252212533640729547</id><published>2011-11-16T15:27:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-16T16:01:36.331-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheist"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="christianity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="immoral"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="immoral atheists"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="immorality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="moral atheists"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="moral relativism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="moral theory"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morals"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="religion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="subjective morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="theism"/><title type='text'>Atheism IS Immoral</title><content type='html'>Let me begin this post by defining two keywords to be focused on: moral and immoral. These words constitute the grounds on which we can determine whether or not any given belief, or lack of a belief, is &quot;moral.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Moral: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;dndata&quot;&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(0, 85, 187); cursor: pointer;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Of, &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;pertaining&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;to,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;or&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;concerned&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;with&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;principles&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;or&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;rules&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;right&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;conduct&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;or&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;distinction&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;between&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;right&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;wrong;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;ethical:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;ital-inline&quot;&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;moral&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;attitudes.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;luna-Ent&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;dndata&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;ital-inline&quot;&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Immoral&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(0, 85, 187); cursor: pointer;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;Violating moral principles;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;conforming&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;to&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;patterns&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;conduct&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;usually&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;accepted&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;or&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;established&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;as&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;consistent&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;with&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;principles&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;personal&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(51, 51, 51); cursor: default;&quot; id=&quot;hotword&quot; name=&quot;hotword&quot;&gt;social ethics. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While there are many accepted definitions of these words, I found these definitions to most concisely and accurately display the sentiments found within each of the individual definitions. These were taken right from the dictionary, and if you have a problem with these definitions in my analysis; feel free to say so in a comment! As such, I will be moving forward with these definitions of &quot;morality&quot; and &quot;immorality&quot; in mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As is evident, I have titled my blog post &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;&quot;Atheism is immoral.&quot;&lt;/span&gt; But why would an atheist believe in something like this? Why would anyone want to be immoral? These are valid questions for sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My simple response to this notion that atheism is immoral is a result from understanding the definitions of these words, and the larger awareness at the existence of many different moral theories. Atheists are often called &quot;immoral&quot; by individuals who are either theists or just stringent fundamentalists and traditionalists. In many respects, these claims are unfounded. They have no formal justification. With that said, let us take these claims &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;a priori&lt;/span&gt; (&quot;at face value&quot;) and assume they are correct for the sake of experimentation and learning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the moment, I am imagining I am a theist and the doctrine of the Christian church is what I believe in. My faith is virtually unshakable. I am bothered by other belief systems, especially those that propose flaws with my own. I believe in Jesus Christ and Yahweh. I believe God speaks to people through his holy word, as found in the Bible. Furthermore, I believe the Bible should be the basis for morality. The Bible is the incarnate word of God, and should therefore be viewed as the ultimate source of knowledge, wisdom, and morality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is how I perceive the average Christian would think. If I am wrong, again, feel free to correct me and I will address your points either in a response comment or in a future post. However, moving forward, assuming this to be an accurate depiction of the accurate Christian; the issue of morality can more honestly be discussed. More importantly, the realization that atheism is inherently immoral can also be found.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the Bible (and by extension the Christian religion and church) is the basis for one&#39;s moral code, then atheism is immoral as it is juxtaposed to basic tenants of Christian morality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When arguing from the side of a theist, there is no doubt that atheists should minimally be &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;perceived&lt;/span&gt; as immoral. As in, they act in such a way that &quot;violates moral principles.&quot; The moral principles followed by Christians are likely inherently different then those atheists themselves would follow. While we may all agree that in most conditions murder is morally wrong, our justification for this may be rather different. For example, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments&quot;&gt;Ten Commandments&lt;/a&gt; plainly states: &quot;Thou shalt not kill.&quot; To a Christian, murder is not justified because God has commanded that we not do this. It is sinful and inherently immoral. For an atheist, we are not bound to the will of God, and therefore may conclude that murder is wrong because it violates utilitarian principles (&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;the golden rule&lt;/span&gt;), it is socially abhorrent, and similar moral and ethical problems not completely related to the morality and ethics of Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since the moral codes of theists and atheists have a tendency to differ, in ways that are both small and great, it is easy to understand how the conclusion that &quot;atheism is immoral&quot; can be reached by those who do not have an atheistic worldview. As such, to a theist, the perception that atheism is, in fact, immoral makes sense. It is logically valid, because the morality these theistic individuals are working off of is one that tells them that atheism IS immoral.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the curve ball in the equation is this: By the religious moral code informing us that atheism is immoral, yet other valid moral codes (such as utilitarian moral theory) would suggest that it is not inherently abhorrent; then we are simply stuck in a scenario where the &quot;moral&quot; make-up of an atheist is one that is dependent on how an individual perceives atheists. This my friends is called &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism&quot;&gt;moral relativism&lt;/a&gt; (or subjective morality). The argument that atheism is immoral can go no further then this, as we have no conclusive evidence that any one moral theory is more or less valid then another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(153, 51, 0);&quot;&gt;If you have any questions, comments, or would like to stir some debate feel free to comment! Just keep it civil!&lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/4252212533640729547/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/atheism-is-immoral.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/4252212533640729547'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/4252212533640729547'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/atheism-is-immoral.html' title='Atheism IS Immoral'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-8019159098245630164</id><published>2011-11-16T08:34:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-16T08:48:36.305-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheist"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="john stuart mill"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="relativism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="subjective morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="utilitarian"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="utilitarianism"/><title type='text'>Utilitarian Moral Theory and an Atheist</title><content type='html'>Utilitarianism is a moral theory that which suggests that we should seek the overall happiness in whatever we do. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill&quot;&gt;John Stuart Mill&lt;/a&gt; describes this moral theory as being one in which we measure &quot;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;pleasures&lt;/span&gt;&quot; and &quot;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;pains&lt;/span&gt;.&quot; The goal is to increase the amount of &quot;pleasure,&quot; and minimize the amount of &quot;pain&quot; to be experienced by all individuals, societies, the environment, etc. who will be involved in the decision being made, whether directly or indirectly. A simple example is as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;A man is considering whether or not he should divorce his wife. Under traditional moral theories, divorce would often be perceived as being an immoral action in most contexts. For example, the Bible outlaws divorce in most circumstances. The Bible is also said to be a source of absolute morality, so one can not get around the fact. On Utilitarian principles, a man may be able to morally justify divorce from his wife. He examines the situation and becomes aware that his divorce will not render her poor. He sees that more pain then pleasure will be brought to himself and to her if they continue being together indefinitely. He still plans to pay child support and be civil friends with her. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While this may be a simple analogy, the moral implication is fairly clear: &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;it is acceptable to get a divorce in this scenario under Utilitarian moral principles.&lt;/span&gt; What makes this moral theory more interesting is that, in another more painful scenario, one could make the claim that divorce is immoral. This lead me to my next point: &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Utilitarian morality is subjective&lt;/span&gt;. It is a relative morality which does not contain absolutes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does this relate to atheism and morality, then? The purpose of this post is to reveal that there are many moral theories. When discussing morality with religious individuals, the perception of morality is generally one that is absolute and based strictly off church doctrine. While I would not say Utilitarian moral theory is inherently any better or worse then the morality of any given religion, I do propose it as an alternative that is generally viewed as, at least, relatively valid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(102, 51, 0);&quot;&gt;Do you have any thoughts on the topic of Utilitarianism or any variety of moral theories? Sound off in the comments section below. &lt;/span&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/8019159098245630164/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/utilitarian-moral-theory-and-atheist.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/8019159098245630164'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/8019159098245630164'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/utilitarian-moral-theory-and-atheist.html' title='Utilitarian Moral Theory and an Atheist'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-1330757292942204245</id><published>2011-11-16T07:21:00.009-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-16T22:29:35.568-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="immoral"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="immorality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="moral theory"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="utilitarian"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="utilitarianism"/><title type='text'>Atheism and Morality - Is Atheism Immoral?</title><content type='html'>It is a fairly common notion that atheists are &quot;immoral.&quot; It is my opinion that this is a &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;stigma&lt;/span&gt; placed on atheists, and is the result of ignorance regarding what atheism really is. For those unaware, atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god. There are no inherent beliefs tagged along with it. Atheists, without having much ground to stand on, formulate opinions and viewpoints that often contradict traditional and religious ideals. If to be immoral, one must act against the status quo; then perhaps atheism is inherently immoral. If morality is a much more complex issue, and I believe it is, then making the argument that atheists are, at least, morally neutral is relatively simple. As a note: there is no possible way I would make an argument concluding that atheists are morally superior to any other group. This is simply not the case. Additionally, no other group is morally superior to atheists either. If an individuals feels this way, then they are simply making this claim out of ignorance to the variety of moral theories available to work off of (Kantian moral theory, utilitarian moral theory, feminist moral theory, theological moral theory, etc.).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The basis for religious and societal views that atheists are immoral is very much based in historical perceptions of atheists, and by extension pagans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The English word &quot;atheism&quot; has a literal meaning, which is simply non-theism. Therefore, it is defined in most dictionaries as the absence of theism, or the refusal to believe in a God or gods. However, the Third Edition of the American Heritage Dictionary (copyright 1992,1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company) still retains an older definition which happens to be quite convenient for the fundamentalist hate-mongers:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Atheism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Noun&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Godlessness; &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;immorality&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Quote is taken from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.creationtheory.org/Morality/AtheistMorality.xhtml&quot;&gt;creationtheory.org&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that under atheism&#39;s definition is listed immorality is how we can begin to understand how this perception has slipped into mainstream thinking. This is a rather unfortunate thing, considering how atheists by and large are fairly productive members of society like anyone else. Atheists are only immoral if we hold them to religious standards as dictated by the Bible or the Koran (among other holy books). It is not fair to pigeonhole atheists into the moral code as dictated by religion, considering there are many other &quot;moral avenues&quot; which can be taken. For example, I consider myself an adherent to utilitarian moral theory. While it is not perfect, it seems to be most effective for my own day to day life when I make moral choices. I will elaborate further on utilitarian moral theory and it&#39;s relation to atheism in another post, as it would require much more space then I wish to dedicate to it in this post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The final issue related to the morality of atheists is as follows: with what evidence can anyone successfully make this claim that atheists are inherently immoral? From my own research, there is very little to support this claim. Studies which suggest this are statistically insignificant or are significantly flawed in their data collection methods. While one could certainly argue that individuals atheists are immoral (which is reasonable enough), the entire group is not inherently immoral &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;just because they are atheists&lt;/span&gt;. That last statement is most important to the purpose of this article: &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;being an atheist does not imply one is immoral&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=aam06-20&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;p=26&amp;amp;l=ur1&amp;amp;category=books&amp;amp;banner=0RCQ1NEMQDJP2TWJBJG2&amp;amp;f=ifr&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;border:none;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;60&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; width=&quot;468&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/1330757292942204245/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/atheism-and-morality-is-atheism-immoral.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/1330757292942204245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/1330757292942204245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/atheism-and-morality-is-atheism-immoral.html' title='Atheism and Morality - Is Atheism Immoral?'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-6930605278875624357</id><published>2011-11-15T21:02:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-16T22:25:24.574-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheist"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="christianity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="christians"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="death"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="dying"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="heaven"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="hell"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="philosophy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="theology"/><title type='text'>On Death and Dying for Atheists</title><content type='html'>One topic that consistently drives me to think about the world I live within is that all too ever-present topic: death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Death and dying are not particularly desirable experiences for the average individual. Most of us live our lives as if we are immortal, which is fairly ironic considering how every present our mortality really is. Consider even our most basic, instinctual responses from day to day. As you drive down the street and someone cuts you off, you feel your heart begin to race. This is a very quick response. You are pumped full of adrenaline and can make split-second decisions which allow you to get out of the way and avoid a collision with the other driver. This is nature&#39;s way of allowing your mortality to communicate directly with you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For atheists, death is a topic often discussed, though with little to actually discuss. The typical belief is that we simple die and decompose. &quot;Ash to ash, dust to dust.&quot; While these words are found both in the Bible and in the Koran, they apply most accurately to atheists in that there is no return to a conscious physical form. The question then becomes: why is the nature of death so important to atheists? Let me speak for myself on this topic as it relates to Christianity (i.e. my upbringing). My own personal fear of death is one that stems from the Christian traditional concept of Hell and the afterlife in general. While I am for all intent and purpose an atheist, I have been psychologically conditioned to fear death on account of the images portrayed of the &quot;after life.&quot; If one does not fear the imagery found in Dante&#39;s &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Inferno&lt;/span&gt; and Gustave Dore&#39;s illustrations of that book, then you are fortunate enough to have not been brought up around the notion of eternal damnation I am sure. Allow me to further examine Christians and how they manage thoughts of death and dying, and analyze how they rub off on society and by extension every individual who is mortal and has a rational fear of death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;usertext-body&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;md&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christians impose their own belief on other individuals when it comes to topics related to death, even on those who are not saved. The belief in god (whether rational or not) provides inherent comfort in times of hardship, especially when this belief is fundamental to an individual&#39;s lifestyle. When a religious individual loses someone close to them, they immediately will project their perception of their own death onto the recently deceased. For example, a Christian will likely say one of the following:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;1. &quot;They are in Heaven.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;or&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;2. &quot;They are in Hell.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are no alternatives from a Christian&#39;s perspective. There is no notion of a simple, natural death where one only goes into the ground eternally. This is perhaps very obvious, but simultaneously very startling. As a result of this dichotomous way of thinking about death, many Christians will surround themselves with like-minded individuals so as to minimize the pain of losing someone who is not a believer in their faith. In all honesty, who would want to believe in something so serious as this and have to live with themselves after seeing a non-Christian depart this world for one of eternal damnation in Hell? I can think of no sympathetic or compassionate person who would desire this. It is only the makings of an inherently evil individual, and perhaps by extension an inherently evil deity, who allows for such knowledge to grace the mind. As such, Christians distance themselves from non-Christians for safety and comfort. This is the first manner of dealing with death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By extension to this point, Christians have an easier time with death when their loved one&#39;s are Christians themselves. The pain and burden of death is relieved when one is confronted with the notion that their loved one is in Heaven (a place of eternal happiness in the presence of God himself). This is an every present memory in my own mind. My sister died at age 4, when I was ~10 years old. At the time I was a &quot;Christian&quot; (as if a 10 year old can honestly make that decision for themselves). Many people around me, all with good intentions, told me &quot;she is in Heaven.&quot; For a time, this satisfied me and was just about the only comfort I could grasp. In recent years I have moved away from Christianity, and have come to the relative realization that my sister is just in the dirt. It is disheartening, though I would much rather deal with reality as opposed to clinging to a &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;(highly desirable)&lt;/span&gt; fantasy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does this relate to atheism? The answer is simple. Christianity has set up a dichotomy with regards to death and the dying process. After one dies, one goes to either the positive afterlife (Heaven) or the negative afterlife (Hell). Christians are able to cope with death fairly successfully, and often have a large support group (friends, the church) to help in addition to this. They are comforted by the thought of Heaven as well, as one would expect. Atheists do not have this latter comfort. While it is not completely rational to fear death when it is just an empty void contained within the Earth, it is a very lonely experience for an atheist. While we all in some way or another &quot;die alone,&quot; when one &quot;dies&quot; with God on their mind; they are likely to be comforted. My aunt recently passed away from cancer, and I stood by her deathbed almost like a spectator. She was comfortable with her passing, though. She was a Christian and did not seem to fear the dying experience. Maybe this is the result of age, but as far as I am concerned; I am an atheist and I fear death more then I would expect your average Christian to fear it. Christianity imposes concepts of absolute truth value as well, which have seeped into mainstream thought, media (music, television, film, artwork), and so forth. The conception of Hell is not one exclusively found in Christianity, but this is where many of us come to know about it. Hell is the image perfectly spun to contain human fear on a canvas. Even as an atheist, I fear Hell and eternal suffering. At the end of this article, I cannot help but return to the problem of evil as is often discussed in theological and philosophical circles.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: rgb(102, 0, 0);&quot;&gt;If you have any comments or would like to start a civil debate, feel free! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/6930605278875624357/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/on-death-and-dying-for-atheists.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/6930605278875624357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/6930605278875624357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/on-death-and-dying-for-atheists.html' title='On Death and Dying for Atheists'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7719641095074883862.post-1797420015266125929</id><published>2011-11-15T19:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-15T19:39:23.658-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="atheism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="morality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="motivation"/><title type='text'>Does being an atheist imply that one will be immoral?</title><content type='html'>Since leaving Christianity, one question that has plagued my newly reformed mind is: &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;what motivates me to act in a moral fashion? &lt;/span&gt;The answer is not a particularly simple one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before I explore this question in more depth, I must make you aware that my former attachment with religion is one that bound me in a shroud of ignorance, fear, and often a lack of desire to see viewpoints outside of my own. This is a fairly common occurrence as far as religion as a social device is concerned. That is not too say that all religious individuals are ignorant, but the nature of religion itself is one that can lead to a sensation of being blind to other world views; especially when many of those viewpoints are deemed inherently &quot;wrong&quot; and by extension &quot;Satanic&quot; or &quot;sinful.&quot; Speaking in terms of mainstream religions like Christianity and Islam, a line has been drawn in the sand. If one crosses said line, then they are often viewed by their respective churches as acting in accordance with the devil. The most unfortunate observance of scenarios related to this is one a few of us may know all too well. I have seen religious men and woman (from my former church) who were unwilling to pick up books that discuss topics juxtaposed to the nature of their religious ideology. My simple observance is this: &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;if simply reading is &quot;wrong&quot; (or by extension sinful in the eyes of God), then how can one rationally conclude that basing one&#39;s morality based on God himself is acceptable?&lt;/span&gt; If we are not allowed to view the world through any other lenses then our own bias, then how can saying &quot;morality is only found in the absolute truth of God&#39;s existence&quot; express a reasonable sentiment without having an in depth, personal dispute over which moral theories are superior and inferior?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, let me again be clear, not all religious people act like this. However, this is a remarkable observation I noticed in my younger year and is important to note for the sake of this blog.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/feeds/1797420015266125929/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/does-being-atheist-imply-that-one-will.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/1797420015266125929'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7719641095074883862/posts/default/1797420015266125929'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/does-being-atheist-imply-that-one-will.html' title='Does being an atheist imply that one will be immoral?'/><author><name>Chris</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11100576942721177236</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i-8shGS5exo/TsMTi72SIuI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZjBnO250Vc/s220/chris.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>