A South African Family - Mc_Cartney

Marriage James Lewis Elves and Emma Rebecca Scott

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Date		30 July 1884
		30 July 1884

Name and Surname	James	James Lewis Elves
	Emma	Emma Rebecca Scott

Age	James	23
	Emma	22

Condition	James	Bachelor
	Emma	Spinster

Rank or Profession	James	Cab Driver
	Emma	-

Residence at time of Marriage	James	90 Halloway Road, Islington, London, UK
	Emma	90 Halloway Road, Islington, London, UK

Fathers Name and Surname	James	James Elves
	Emma	James Scott

Rank or Profession of Father	James	Carman
	Emma	Builder

Birth Caroline Elizabeth Elves

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Name: Caroline Elizabeth Elves

Record Type: Baptism

Baptism Date: 24 May 1885

Father’s Name: James Lewis Elves

Father’s occupation: Cab Proprietor

Mother’s Name: Emma Rebecca Elves

Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary

Borough: Islington

Abode: Lesly Street

Death Caroline Elizabeth Wilson (nee Elves)

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Birthplace and Nationality of the deceased: London, England. British

Name and Addresses of the Parents of the deceased: Father and Mother Deceased

Age of the deceased 57 years 4 months

Occupations in life of the deceased, or, if a woman, of her husband: None.

Ordinary place of residence of the deceased, or, if a woman, of her husband: c/o C.E. Heaton, 83 Hope Avenue, Brakpan.

Married, or unmarried, widower or widow: Widow

Name of surviving spouse (if any) and whether married in community of property or not: Nil

Name or name and approximate date of predeceased spouse or spouses: Anthony Wilson who died at Dundee, Natal, on 24th January 1939. (Estate now being reported)

Place of marriage: Germiston on 3rd December 1908

The day of decease: 4th August 1942

At what house or where person died House: General Hospital

Town or Place: Johannesburg

District: Transvaal

Name of children of deceased, and whether majors or minors:

1. Carrie Elves Heaton (born Wilson) - Major

2. Hilda Mary Manning (born Wilson) - Major

3. Lewis Anthony Wilson - Major

4. Olive Lillian Mc Cartney (born Wilson) - Major (My Grand Mother)

Has the deceased left any movable property: Yes

Has the deceased left any immovable property: No

Is it estimated that the estate exceeds £300 in value: No.

Has the deceased left a will: No.

Dated at Brakpan on 27th day of November 1942 signed C.E. Heaton Daughter of Deceased Present at Death

Birth Margaret Tannoch 1777

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Robert Tannoch Shoemaker in Kilmarnock (Ayr) and Elizabeth Wyllie had their fifth child born Nov 7th: 1777 and baptised Margaret 10th: 1777.

Marriage Robert Blain and Margaret Tannoch 20 July 1794

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Extract from the Marriage record for the parish of Newton-On-Ayr for 1794 "Robert Blain soldier in colonel Fullerton's Regiment of Calvary and Margaret Tannoch of the parish of Ochiltree were three proclaimed on one Sabbath in order to marriage the said Regiment having marched from this Regiment the Regiment after the proclamations before the marriage was celebrated".

Birth Robert Blain 1805

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Robert son of Rob Blain and Marg Tannoch was born 30 July 1805 and baptised 22 September same year.

Death Mary Carley (Blain) 1860

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Name and Surname: Mary Carley

Rank or Profession and whether Single, Married or Widowed: Wife of a Waggoner

When and Where Died: 1860 Tenth July 4H. 50m. am, Whittles Str., Quivox Parish

Female / Male: Female

Age: 26

Name, Surname Rank or Profession of Father: Robert Blain, Coal Miner Sinker

Name and Maiden Surname of Mother: Margaret Blain M.S. Caddies

Cause of Death: Probably exhaustion resulting from parturition. (Due to child birth)

Signature and Qualification of Informant, and Residence, if out of the House in which the Death occurred: His mark Peter Carley, Widower

When and Where Registered and Signature of Registrar: 1860 11th July

Marriage Peter Carley and Mary Blain

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Peter Carley in the Parish of Boyhwell and Mary Blain in this Parish

1 January 1854, St Quivox, Ayr, Scotland

Census Robert Blain 1851

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Census Robert Blain 1851

Name: Robert Blain

Age: 40

Estimated Birth Year: abt. 1811

Relationship: Head

Gender: Male

Where born: Riccarton, Ayrshire

Registration district: Rutherglen

Civil parish: Newton On Ayr

Town: Whitletts

County: Ayrshire

Address: Main Road

Occupation: Coal Pit Sinker

Household schedule number: 41

Other Household Members:	Age	Estimated Birth Year:	Relationship to Head:	Gender	Where born:	Occupation:
Margaret Blain	36	Abt. 1815	Wife	Female	Ireland
Alexander Blain	19	Abt. 1832	Son	Male	Newton, Ayrshire	Coal Miner
Mary Blain	17	Abt. 1834	Daughter	Female	Newton, Ayrshire	Flowerer Of Webs *
Jean Blain	14	Abt. 1837	Daughter	Female	Newton, Ayrshire	Flowerer Of Webs *
Margaret Blain	12	Abt. 1839	Daughter	Female	Newton, Ayrshire	Flowerer Of Webs *
Marion Blain	9	Abt. 1842	Daughter	Female	Newton, Ayrshire
James Blain	7	Abt. 1844	Son	Male	St Quivox, Ayrshire
William Blain	4	Abt. 1847	Son	Male	St Quivox, Ayrshire
John Blain	1	Abt. 1847	Son	Male	St Quivox, Ayrshire

* The needlepoint filling (floo'ering or flowering) was the most specialised technique and it's that which differentiates Ayrshire work from other types of whitework.

Death Margaret Carley 1892

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Information found in extract from Deaths register for 182 in the District of Kilwinning County Ayrshire page 18 record number 52.

Name and Surname: Margaret McCartney

Rank or Profession and whether Single, Married or Widowed: Married to James McCartney (Missionary)

When and Where Died: 1892 April Nineteenth 9H. 0m. am, Byres, Kilwinning

Female / Male: Female

Age: 38

Name, Surname Rank or Profession of Father: Peter Carley, Carter

Name and Maiden Surname of Mother: Mary Carley M.S. Blane (Deceased)

Signature and Qualification of Informant, and Residence, if out of the House in which the Death occurred: James McCartney, Widower

When and Where Registered and Signature of Registrar: April 19th, Kilwinning, Andrew Spier

Death James McCartney 1926

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Information found in extract from Deaths register for 1926 in the District of Rutherglen County Lanark page 11 record number 243.

Name and Surname: James McCartney

Rank or Profession: Missionary (Retired)

Single, Married or Widowed: Married to 1st. : Margaret Carley

2nd. : Annie Thompson (maiden) or McCulloch (first husband)

When and Where Died: 1926 December Fifth 5H. 30m. am, 39 Queen Street, Rutherglen, Glasgow, Scotland

Female / Male: Male

Age: 72

Name, Surname Rank or Profession of Father: William McCartney, Shoemaker (Deceased)

Name and Maiden Surname of Mother: Margaret McCartney M.S. Ward (Deceased)

Cause of Death, Duration of Disease and Medical Attendant by Whom Certified: Arterial sclerosis (cardiac) syncope as certified by Dr. Buchannan

Signature and Qualification of Informant, and Residence, if out of the House in which the Death occurred: John McCartney, Son, 62 Cramond Street, Glasgow

When and Where Registered and Signature of Registrar: December 6th, Rutherglen, John R Anderson Assistant Registrar

Census James Mc Cartney 1901

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Name: James McCartney

Age: 46

Estimated Birth Year: abt. 1855

Relationship: Head

Gender: Male

Where born: Dalry, Ayrshire

Registration district: Rutherglen

Civil parish: Rutherglen

County: Lanarkshire

Address: 10 Chapel St

Occupation: Missionary West W F Church

Household schedule number: 203

Other Household Members:	Age	Estimated Birth Year:	Relationship to Head:	Gender	Where born:	Occupation:
Annie McCulloch	18	Abt. 1883	Step Daughter	Female	Ayr, Ayrshire	Hosiery Machinist
Peggy McCulloch	19	Abt. 1882	Step Daughter	Female	Ayr, Ayrshire	Dressmaker
Jane McCartney	18	Abt. 1883	Daughter	Female	Kilwinning, Ayrshire	Laundry Packer
Martha McCulloch	17	Abt. 1884	Step Daughter	Female	Ayr, Ayrshire	Laundry Marker
Maggie McCartney	16	Abt. 1885	Daughter	Female	Kilwinning, Ayrshire	Laundry Mangler
Agnes McCartney	14	Abt. 1887	Daughter	Female	Kilwinning, Ayrshire	Laundry Marker
Isa R G McCartney	4	Abt. 1897	Daughter	Female	Lanarkshire, Rutherglen
James McCartney	3	Abt. 1898	Son	Male	Lanarkshire, Rutherglen

Obituary Edward Wynne

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The Eastern Province Herald

Cape Of Good Hope

Wednesday 27 December 1893

Death of Mr. E. Wynne

It is with much regret that we have to announce the death of Mr. Edward Wynne which sad event took place in Uitenhage on Monday night. Mr. Wynne had long been a well known public man in Port Elizabeth and he was held in high esteem by all with whom he came into contact. He was at one time in the army, and soon after settling in Port Elizabeth he took a lease on the Falcon Hotel. This establishment he conducted with much success, he being a host highly popular with the public. About two years ago he inaugurated the Junior Club in Port Elizabeth and since that time he has acted as the manager with much satisfaction to all concerned.

Some time ago he had a severe attack of influenza and despite the best medical treatment was unable to shake off the illness. He went for a change of air to Graaff-Reinet and other places, but unfortunately no improvement followed. Recently he returned to Uitenhage and some days ago it was seen that his condition had assumed a much graven aspect. Complications ensued, and by Sunday his medical attendant intimated to his friends that his recovery was hopeless. From this time, Mr. Wynne gradually sank, and he died as stated. Apparently of robust health, his death will come as a painful surprise to his many friends. He has left a widow and eight children to mourn his loss. Much sympathy will be expressed towards his wife and family in their bereavement.
The funeral of the deceased took place at Port Elizabeth yesterday and was largely attended.

Death of Edward Wynne spouse of Catherine M. Wynne (Mc Gough) 1893 (South Africa)

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The document below is the official death notice dated 28 December 1893.

Edward died Uitenhage, Eastern Cape 15th December 1893.

Age at death given as 45 estimated date of birth 1848 Ireland

Occupation: Manager Junior Club in Port Elizabeth

Spouse Catherine Wynne

Children

· James

· Daniel

· Edward

· Theresa

· Mary Agatha

· Kathleen (my Great Grandmother)

· Annie Florence

· Patrick

Parents

· Abraham Wynne (Deceased)

· Mary Wynne (Alive)

Death registered by widow Catherine Wynne.

Second Marriage James Mc Cartney 1895

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Information obtained from the document above;

Date: 20 May 1895

Took place at: 39 Fort Street, Ayrshire

Note: After Banns according to the forms of the Free Church of Scotland

Signed: James Mc Cartney

Profession: Missionary

Age: 40

Single or Widowed: Widower

Signed: Annie Thomson Mc Culloch

Profession: Nurse

Single or Widowed: Widow

Age: 35

His father: (William) was a shoemaker and is deceased

His mother: (Margaret) maiden surname is Ward still living

Her father: (Hugh Thomson) was a shoemaker and is deceased

Her mother: (Martha) maiden surname was ?

Death of Kathleen Mc Cartney (Wynne) spouse of William Mc Cartney 1976 (South Africa)

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The document below is the official notice death certificate dated 15th July 1976.

Kathleen died at Nazareth House, Waterkloof in Pretoria 19th May 1976.

Date of Birth is given as 17th July 1889 Port Elizabeth, Cape Province

She left a will (see below)

Spouse (deceased)

William Mc Cartney Children

· Kathleen

· Margaret

· James (my Grandfather)

· Jean

· Jack

· Maureen

· Dennis

· Peter

Parents

· Edward Wynne

· Catherine Wynne

Death registered by son D.R. Mc Cartney executor.

Anthony Leslie Wilson in South Africa

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Anthony Wilson in South Africa

My paternal grandmother was Olive Lillian Wilson and her father was Anthony Leslie Wilson. Anthony was married twice first to Elizabeth Garrett and secondly to Caroline Elizabeth Elves my Great Grandmother (therefore I can claim that I am 1/8 elf). Anthony had a total of seven children three with Elizabeth and four with Caroline.

Anthony Wilson

Here is the story of my great grandfather, as told by Doris, one of his daughters. It appears from the census records that she may have been wrong about him having only one son, although by the time she came along, it is possible that his other sons had died young.

Anthony Wilson was born in Lancashire (Barrow-in-Furness District), the only son of Anthony and Caroline Wilson (born Thackery). There were three daughters - Caroline (a spinster), Barbara (Guines) whose only daughter died when about 21 years, and Alice (Walker, later Price).

... My Father had the first brick house built at Primrose. Later it was added to and turned into a pair of semi's. All the other houses were wood and iron. My Dad sent for his sister, Alice, to come and care for his two little children, Harold and Doris when his wife died of pneumonia. Alice fell in love with the next door neighboour's son, and when she married, my Father remarried - Caroline (born Elves). Four children were born - 'Carrie' (Heaton), Hilda Mary (Manning), Olive (James Edward McCartney) and Anthony 'Tant'."

Anthony and Elizabeth Garrett

Caroline Elves

as recorded by Doris Alice Martin (nee Wilson)

Carrie, Olive, Doris, Hilda Mary

Anthony was a miner, originally in Lancashire, where the British census of 1881 records him as a Mining Labourer at 14 years old in Dalton. Later he worked on the mines in Germiston South Africa as a Winding Engine Driver, and then in Dundee, Natal, where he worked on the Northfield and SA Collieries. The Winding Engine Driver operated the large static engine that raised the men to and from the workings in a lift cage. Anthony's son was very proud of his prowess in this task ... he used to talk about how even when the men below had not seen a shift change occur at the winding engine, they could tell when 'old man Wilson' was at the controls because of the smooth ride he gave them. Recent examples of working steam driven winding engines found at working collieries show that the machines were maintained with considerable care and attention - the miners took their responsibilities to the men below very seriously.

Anthony was also a cornet player in the Salvation Army Band.

Information obtained from Michelle Gilmore my second cousin

The Murdered Forefather Cloeten (Cloete)

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A common forefather of the van Heerden, Myburg and van der Merwe families is Jacob Cloeten (Est 1625 - 1693) which later become the family Cloete. Jacob and Fijtje Cloeten were from “van Ut in ’t Land van Ceulen” (Cologne)

Jacob Cloeten -

(Daughter) Elsje Jacoba Married Willem Schalkz Van Der Merwe -

(Daughter) Magdalena Magtilt (Magteld) Married Pieter Willem van Heerden (Original van Heerden in South Africa)

On 23 May 1693 there is an entry in the Journal of the Cape Governor, Simon Van der Stel: [Picture of van der Stel]

“This evening, between the hours of 8 and 9, was murdered, not far from the Castle near the butchery, Jacob Cloeten, corporal in the service of the Hon. Company, the oldest of the Comp’s servants, having helped to lay the foundation of this colony, having been the first Freeman, though having later returned to the service of the Company…he was found, badly mistreated with three blows to the head and two stab wounds to the chest, all five mortal, over and above 25 lesser wounds, he was found lying in his blood with his sword at his side still in its scabbard, so that the attack must have been treacherous, as he was still very agile and as fit as a 25-year old young man.[...]”

The van Heerden Connection

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My mother's maiden name was van Heerden, information regarding this branch of my family is not very well documented and the best I could do was to determine from their gravestone that my great grandfather was Gerhardes Hendrik Christoffel van Heerden and he was married to Maria Emelia Beetge.

A chance discovery of a book by Dr. Petronella van Heerden published in 1969 gave me the necessary connection to follow the van Heerden family all the way back to the arrival of the first van Heerden (Pieter Willemsz) in South Africa in 1701.

Death of William Mc Cartney 1954 (South Africa)

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We eventually get to the South African connection. After two generations in Scotland another William emigrates (his grandfather emigrated from Ireland).

The document below is the official medical death certificate dated 7th May 1954.

He died at Nazareth House in Pretoria.

Death William Mc Cartney 1872

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We know from his son's wedding in 1876 that he is already deceased so we can backtrack and see if he was still alive when the 1871 census took place. We find him alive and well and living in Vennal Street, Dalry. We also confirm James (17 years old) and meet some of his siblings Joseph (21), William (19), Henry (12) and Robert (10).

With the information we have we limit our search to between the years 1871 and 1877. We find his death notice in January 1872. Collaborated information occupation shoemaker, wife Margaret Ward and living in Vennal Street.

Additional information obtained;

Farther Hugh Mc Cartney (Deceased)

Mother Maiden Surname Gordon (Deceased)

Another son John reported the death

Marriage James Mc Cartney and Margaret Carley 1871 Scotland

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Taking information from the post "The Start" we have sufficient information to get James and Margaret married.

Facts

From Birth of William in 1877

Name, Surname, & Rank or Profession of Father: (husband)

James Mc Cartney, Colporteur, Byres Kilwinning,

Name and Maiden Surname of Mother: (wife)

Margaret Mc Cartney, M.S, Carley

Date and Place of Marriage:

1876, November 17th, Fairlie

Additional information obtained from the document above;

Took place in the Free Church of Scotland

Both are 23 years old

His father (William) was a shoemaker and is deceased

His mother (Margaret) maiden surname is Ward still living

Her father (Peter Carley) coal miner

Her mother (Mary) maiden surname was Blain and she is deceased

Fun with Family and Statistics (2)

2011-10-06T11:38:00.000-07:00

The graph shows that if the generation gap between the parents and a child is 14 years (Young parent) there would be 143 generation in 2000 years and if the gap was 26 it would only be 77 generations.

An average gap of 20 years or 100 generations would therefore mean that you're paternal or maternal line 100 generations ago would have been alive in the time of Jesus.

Generations	Year	Event
124	480 BC	Spartans "300"
27	1452	Birth Leonardo Da Vinci
17	1652	Jan van Riebeeck lands at the Cape
8	1834	The Great Trek
6	1880	First Boer War

Census Explored 1881 Mc Cartney Scotland

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In the post "The Start" several leads were developed that we can now tease out further to either find more individuals or to verify information we currently have starting with the date and location of some of the individuals. The information available gives us enough information to have a look at census information censuses in Scotland took place every ten years from 1841. William's date of the birth was 1877 it is best to step forward to the next census therefore 1881. Information we can use/verify;

Facts

Father: James Mc Cartney, Colporteur, Byres Kilwinning (keep in mind that they may have moved)

Wife: Margaret Mc Cartney,

Son: William, (estimated age between three and five as we don't have the exact date that the census took place) in 1881

Assumptions (be careful only use as supporting information)

They should still be in the area.

William should be the eldest child (Wedding 1876 Birth 1877)

The census extract below meets all the information

Byres Road about the time of the census

to be continued

Fun with Family and Statistics (1)

2011-10-04T14:33:00.000-07:00

Most people would consider twenty friends on Facebook very unimpressive but consider the table below. If you were to take all the ancestors required to be in place before you were born it would only take twenty generations before you got to a figure in excess of one million.