<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:blogger='http://schemas.google.com/blogger/2008' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382</id><updated>2024-10-08T22:35:47.880-07:00</updated><category term="AAP"/><category term="arvind kejriwal"/><category term="india"/><category term="society"/><category term="women"/><category term="BJP"/><category term="Delhi Elections"/><category term="Delhi Rape"/><category term="Kashmir"/><category term="Rape"/><category term="corruption"/><category term="maoism"/><category term="nation"/><category term="system"/><category term="Ambani"/><category term="Anna Hazare"/><category term="Anti Conversion Bill"/><category term="Azaadi"/><category term="Delhi Election Results"/><category term="Flag Hoisting in Kashmir"/><category term="Freedom"/><category term="Gaza Conflict"/><category term="Ghar Wapasi"/><category term="Gujrat Riots"/><category term="Hindu Muslim Riots"/><category term="Kasab"/><category term="Kasab Hanged"/><category term="Misguided Youth"/><category term="Missionaries"/><category term="Mohan Bhagwat"/><category term="Mother Teresa"/><category term="Narendra Modi"/><category term="Non-Violence"/><category term="RSS"/><category term="Religious Conversion"/><category term="Terrorism"/><category term="Vote for BJP"/><category term="Women Freedom"/><category term="Women Rights"/><category term="Youth"/><category term="alcohol"/><category term="attitude"/><category term="business"/><category term="children"/><category term="congress"/><category term="cuppurtion"/><category term="democracy"/><category term="education"/><category term="energy conservation"/><category term="exploitation"/><category term="free grain distribution"/><category term="free market"/><category term="global warming"/><category term="governance"/><category term="honesty"/><category term="integrity"/><category term="law against curruption"/><category term="liberalisation"/><category term="life"/><category term="lokpal"/><category term="mid day meal"/><category term="natural resource conservation"/><category term="niira radia"/><category term="persepctive"/><category term="personal"/><category term="politics"/><category term="poverty"/><category term="price rise"/><category term="rehabilitation"/><category term="resources"/><category term="sales"/><category term="soldier"/><category term="valliance"/><category term="war"/><title type='text'>Eccentric Mind</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default?redirect=false'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>30</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-4174582716095599296</id><published>2015-02-25T05:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2015-02-25T05:10:33.681-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Anti Conversion Bill"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ghar Wapasi"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Missionaries"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Mohan Bhagwat"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Mother Teresa"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Religious Conversion"/><title type='text'>Is this only about Mother Teresa?</title><content type='html'>Just to quote a great African leader: - “When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.”&lt;br /&gt;
I have heard that till the middle of the eighteenth century India had about 25% share of the world’s GDP which is now hardly about 3%. I am, at times, surprised to see the downfall in the economy. There are many reasons attributed to this down fall which include India missing on the Industrial revolution growth which is a major factor to have strengthened the western economies. Prior to the Industrial revolution, the world was majorly agrarian and production was by human hands or hand driven equipment. The industrial revolution changed everything. I do not know if the western economies became rich or India became poorer or the western economies made Indians to believe that they are poor and used India for raw materials as well as end product markets or both. One fact remains that they could source raw material at abysmally low rates and could sell the finished goods at a premium. This ofcourse is business and business in legal in this world. Such businesses are still legally running around the world!&lt;br /&gt;
Now, let’s forget all the reasons because the final truth as of date is that India is a poor third world country and the west is a prosperous territory. Having said that, we will have to agree that westerners are concerned about the poor third world countries and send across help. My only concern is that mostly the help is in the form of Missionaries and not in the form of technology and money which is required more by the third world nations. But, ofcourse, we all should understand that gifting technology and money is against the fundamentals of economics. So, we are expected to develop technology and create wealth on our own. We need to forget that raw material used for the development of the west was from the third world, labor used for development was from the third world and a large segment of market for the goods was also the third world. We are supposed to forget everything so let’s actually forget everything and come to the point.&lt;br /&gt;
It was around 2002-2003 when I was in Bhopal and was attending a session of a senior RSS functionary. He also mentioned Mother Teresa in his discourse, according to him, Missionaries of Charity had around 500 centres across the world whereas Vidya Bharti had around 24000 schools all across India. His gave this comparison just to prove that there were many Sangh affiliates and other organizations which were doing far more and better work for the upliftment of the people and that the name and fame of Mother Teresa is just the way Missionaries function in order to advertise their work whereas most of the Indian organizations believe in “Prassidhi Paronmukhata” which means being “averse to fame”.   My reason to mention this was that this is not the first time that a RSS top functionary has said such words about Mother Teresa, this is RSS’s stand on the work done by missionaries. It is only the media which has timed it well in order to get better viewership and have better debate on the matter.&lt;br /&gt;
I personally have very high regard for Mother Teresa because I feel that service to mankind irrespective of the motive should be respected. We should also remember that most of our great warriors and freedom fighters fought against the invaders because they thought it was their “Dharma” to fight for their motherland and protect it from the invaders (Although Dharma is not synonymous to Religion). So, I personally feel that we should always respect such people who serve humanity. On the other hand, I also feel that we should also not shy away in being clear with the intent of such people. Mother Teresa believed in the concept of “Salvation only through Christianity” and I expect everyone to accept this aswell. How does the respect for Mother Teresa reduce if we accept that she did the service in the name of god and believed that spreading Christianity is actually service to god? I feel that we should be non-partisan enough to accept this truth. Also, we should not shy away from criticism of Mother Teresa. If Mahatma of this land can be criticized then, ofcourse, Mother Teresa can also be criticized.&lt;br /&gt;
It has been a historical fact that prime agenda of Christians and Muslims has been to propagate their faith all across the world. They have invaded nations ruled them and tried all tactics in order to promote and propagate their religion. Another fact that remains is that it is only the Indian sub-continent, China and a few other Asia Pacific nations that have been able to sustain their original faiths despite occupation by both Muslims and Christians. Limiting myself to Christian missionaries here, they feel that Salvation can only be achieved through Christianity and they do it for the human good. They also feel that it’s god’s work that they are doing and will be given a place in heaven after death. So where is the problem?&lt;br /&gt;
Ideally, the concepts of “I am good and you are bad” or “Only I am good” is the problem. These concepts come out while one professes his or her religion because when one professes his/her religion, one compares it with other (read “my”) religions and in this process of comparison proves that his/her religion is better than other religions. This creates conflict of ideas which finally leads to mistrust and violence. Ideally, the belief of missionaries which is “salvation only through Christianity” creates the conflict because it sends all the non-Christians, including me, directly to hell. This is in conflict with my faith and continuous rhetoric of the same will lead to conflict for sure. Another cause of conflict is use of fraud to convince that Christianity is better than Hinduism. There have been many cases where people have been given medicines in the guise of holy water in order to prove that holy water cures diseases and such is the power of Jesus. Many missionaries give priority admission to Christians’ in the educational institutions that they run. This creates difference and conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
But, one thing that is peculiar here is that all these fraudulent practices and the truth about the intent of missionaries is not discussed by the Media. Whereas, a single conversion case, popularly known as “Ghar wapasi”, from other religions to Hinduism is depicted by media as atrocity on minorities on the country. I am personally against any kind of faith propagation because I do not see any constructive use of change of faith and there is a lot of comparison involved in propagating a faith. So, I am in favor of a law which is against religious conversions. I also understand that it is very difficult to make such a law because it is very difficult to monitor such things, but, I feel that there are many learned people in the world who can suggest many ways to resolve the issues here.&lt;br /&gt;
I hope the God blesses all of us and gives us good sense. Jai Shree Ram!!&lt;br /&gt;
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</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/4174582716095599296/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2015/02/is-this-only-about-mother-teresa.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/4174582716095599296'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/4174582716095599296'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2015/02/is-this-only-about-mother-teresa.html' title='Is this only about Mother Teresa?'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-5010255571969698160</id><published>2015-02-10T02:35:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2015-02-10T02:35:14.477-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="AAP"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="arvind kejriwal"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Delhi Election Results"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Delhi Elections"/><title type='text'>From a Sanghi to AAP</title><content type='html'>First of all, Congratulations and best wishes to AAP on this huge victory!!&lt;br /&gt;
In the heat of the Delhi Elections, Arvind Kejriwal was accused of being an Anarchist by many. Today, the People of Delhi have given him all the powers to be one, ofcourse within the framework of the Indian Constitution. The results have a similar pattern to that of the Lok Sabha election, anyone under the banner of AAP has won similar to the trend that was in favor of BJP in the Lok Sabha elections. AAP’s phenomenal victory is a proof of the secular and tolerant nature of an ordinary Indian. The Indian who voted Narendra Modi to power for his development agenda and has again trusted in Kejriwal on his clean politics and clean governance agenda.&lt;br /&gt;
AAP has a huge responsibility on its shoulders now. People have believed in AAP and voted for it in such huge numbers. Most of the people who voted for AAP are from the sections of the society which haven’t benefitted from the present system and were losing faith in the system, people who have not benefited because of independence, and people who feel that white rulers have replaced brown rulers.  AAP has come as a ray of hope for those sections of the society. This election has showed the power of democracy and the power of a common man in a democracy. I hope AAP keeps up to the expectations of the people because failure will lead to loss of faith in the system which is very difficult regain and takes a lot of time and struggle. I do not want this painful thing to happen to my generation. But, history is not in favor of AAP.&lt;br /&gt;
A few days back one of my seniors told me that India hasn’t seen great changes and revolutions post independence, I did not have a convincing answer then. But today, we are all witness to a great change. In a democracy, all changes are in the form of Politics and political revolutions as we vote for our choice and bring about change. But, this is not the first time that such a change has come. In 1957, EMS Namboodripad, became the first Non-Congress chief minister of India and if you read a little about EMS Namboodripad you will get to know about the impeccable integrity and character of this leftist man. In 1967, CN Annadurai, became the first non-congress CM of Tamil Nadu. He was also a man of character and ethics. Later his party divided into two and now rule Tamil Nadu alternately. In 1983, Telugu Desam Party, under the leadership of NT Rama Rao (NTR) swept the Andhra Pradesh assembly elections to bring the first non-congress government in Andhra Pradesh. NTR was known to be a tough administrator and a reformist. In 1985, Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, represented the aspirations of the Assamese people when he did not bow down to Indira Gandhi’s pressure and came to power. Similar has been the case with UP and Bihar which have hardly seen any Congress government in the past 25 years.&lt;br /&gt;
But, has this brought about drastic change in the system? I guess the present state of affairs in UP &amp; Bihar is known to all of us. Leaders of both the parties of Tamil Nadu which were formed after the division of DMK have serious corruption charges against them. Prafulla Kumar Mahanta is history now, TDP which has done a great deal of work was out of power for more than a decade. So, one cannot convincingly say that this change in government will bring about something revolutionary in the coming five years. &lt;br /&gt;
The only thing different in this case of AAP is that it has taken Congress Party’s place. In all the earlier mentioned cases, these parties came up as opposition of Congress and competed with it to win elections. In the present case, Congress has been wiped off and AAP has routed BJP which was also an opposition party till last year. So, the best thing about this case is that the “bad boy of politics”, Congress, has no place and all the politics will be between AAP and BJP. BJP, of course, because it is in power at the centre. So, let’s hope that this is a welcome change.&lt;br /&gt;
One other thing that I would like to talk about is the perception of AAP. How if AAP perceived of by people? People who hate AAP consider it to be a group of hardcore leftists combined with Islamists. People who support AAP consider it to be like the pre-independence Congress Party with great leaders who are fighting the war of total Independence. On this day when AAP has created history with the kind of win I would like to believe that AAP is the kind of a nationalist party similar to the one Congress was before Independence. Having said that, I expect AAP to take a note of the mistakes that Congress committed to ruin itself and the nation in its rule after independence. It might have taken 50 years for the opposition to remove Congress from the centre. But, in the current scenario, if two years of struggle can bring AAP to power with such huge majority, five years of non performance, bad governance and populism without vision can lead to the party’s decimation in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
May AAP keep up to the expectations of the people, All the Best from my side!&lt;br /&gt;
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</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/5010255571969698160/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2015/02/from-sanghi-to-aap.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/5010255571969698160'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/5010255571969698160'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2015/02/from-sanghi-to-aap.html' title='From a Sanghi to AAP'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-1786283099473406799</id><published>2015-02-05T07:04:00.002-08:00</published><updated>2015-02-05T07:04:59.242-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="AAP"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Delhi Elections"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Vote for BJP"/><title type='text'>A Request to the people of Delhi</title><content type='html'>It’s the evening when election gets over in Delhi. This election campaign has been very different where the person who rose to fame throwing mud as others is being considered as the victim of mudslinging and negative politics. He says that negative politics is being played against him; I do not remember a single instance when he played positive politics. I always remember him accusing others. He has always considered him “holier than thou”.&lt;br /&gt;
I have many friends who are very educated, live abroad and have sympathies with him but I have my reservations. I do not want anyone to win Delhi elections just for the sake of sympathy. I want someone with proven credentials to come to power in Delhi. Many people cry foul and support him saying that BJP is using all its might to suppress an ordinary person like him. I say that all parties including Congress see this as an opportunity to defame BJP and undermine the leadership of NaMo. I wish that their dangerous designs do not succeed.&lt;br /&gt;
Kindly do not see him as a victim, see that he is taking advantage of the situation. Everyone in politics has a background and credentials to support. He does not have any; he’s just a puppet in the hands of many powers which do not want to surface. I do not know if he’s ignorant or wishes to ignore it.&lt;br /&gt;
I just want to say that the he has allegiance with Arundhati Roy and Binayak Sen, these are people who do not believe in Democracy as an institution. He has association with Mr SAS Gilani who is a separatist and does not believe in Democracy. One of his founder members, Prashant Bhushan, has suggested plebiscite in J&amp;K which is against the national stand. He fought election against NaMo just to garner Muslim votes which he was successful in garnering.&lt;br /&gt;
All nationalists, kindly be careful when you vote for Delhi. Its not about emotion, its about the state which has the National Capital Territory. We can have experiments outside the NCR, we cannot risk NCR. Kindly vote and vote Sensibly!&lt;br /&gt;
In all references “He” points towards Mr Arvind Kejriwal.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;My heart goes out to the people of Gaza. But, when I ask the same heart that why does it then fail to condemn Israeli attacks? It gives me a very logical answer. It says that the same set of people who are so vehemently condemning the atrocities in Gaza will not shed a tear, or would rather, rejoice the slaughtering of Israeli’s in the same region.&lt;br /&gt;
In my opinion, it’s a fight between two different ideologies and will exist till people keep thinking that their faith is the best. This fight between faiths has existed since times immemorial. India has also seen such fights and is still witness to it because of its people with a many kinds of religious, political and regional belief systems. So let us discuss about the conflicts in India primarily focusing on the beliefs Nationalism and Religion. This conflict, in the Indian scenario, is mostly centered on Muslims. I will discuss the same in this write-up. &lt;br /&gt;
India is said to be a so called secular nation which has state separated from religion and, thus, gives equal rights to the follower of every religion and considers every religion to be equal. But, I feel that the above thought is only confined to the books/constitution and is not practiced even by the government. I will not get into discussions of Muslim appeasement etc to support my observation. I will instead I will talk about some cases which we all hear and read about regularly in the media.&lt;br /&gt;
One of the controversies Narendra Modi created during his election campaign was about helping Hindu Bangladeshis to settle in India. Many secular intellectuals rejected his idea considering it as being communal. But, I was surprised to see many Assamese, who are the worst victims of Bangladeshi influx, not being averse to the idea. All of them supported the idea with one condition that all these settlers should be spread evenly across the country. Even they were ready to take the load of allowing Bangladeshi Hindus, but, oppose settlement of Muslim Bangladeshis tooth and nail. We can of course call this idea of Narendra Modi as a communal thought, but, this differential treatment has always prevailed in the region officially. &lt;br /&gt;
If we consider the case of a Nepalese or a Bhutanese citizen, there is no restriction on his/her coming to India and settling here. Basically the only difference between a Nepalese/Bhutanese citizen and an Indian citizen is the latter’s right to vote, else every other thing is the same. Each one of us knows many Nepalese living and working in our area. I have hardly seen any national level hue and cry about Nepalese or Bhutanese citizens settling in India although Nepalese are present in India in good numbers. Same is the case with Tibetans living in India, although their asylum in India is among the bone of contention between India and China. Still, people have no issues. Even, people of Chinese origin living in India might not be facing problems. I think the only reason for Indians not having any major problem with these people is that these two countries are predominantly Hindu or Buddhist or for the matter of fact, Nepal was the only Hindu nation in the world officially till recent times whereas Pakistan and East Pakistan were formed on the basis of religion. Pakistan became an Islamic nation whereas India remained a secular nation (which Bangladesh is also now) accommodating everyone officially. Relations with the Lankans are not that good because of the Tamil problem, but, I do not see any settlement problems to Lankan nationals in India. &lt;br /&gt;
According to me, the major threat that majority Hindus in India see with the settlement of Muslims in India is that with the rise of Muslim population there will be a drastic change in the way of life of the Hindus. I can say so because I know Bengali Hindus who have peacefully lived in Assam even during the heat of the Assam agitation in the late 70’s and the early 80’s whereas there are riots between Bengali Muslims and ethnic people even today. This according to me is the threat that Hindus perceive in many parts of the country.&lt;br /&gt;
If we look at the Muslim aspect of the issue there is even more complexity which might turn into a Gaza like problem in the future. Muslims are actually stuck between faith and nation. If a Muslim thinks that nation is supreme and that the government should not allow Bangladeshis who are mostly Muslims to settle in India, he being anti-Islamic.  As per Islam, a Muslim should not go against a Muslim when it’s a case of his betterment and Bangladeshis infiltrate into India only because of the compulsions of poverty. How can one Muslim be against the empowerment of another Muslim? This is a major conflict that a practicing Muslim must be facing! I can also say that it is inhuman not to allow poor people in search of bread and butter to settle here.&lt;br /&gt;
I say it with confidence that a conflict exists amongst Muslims between Nationalism and Religion because when there are riots in Assam between Bodos and Bangladeshi Muslims, Mumbai comes to a halt. There are protests in many parts of the country and people from the North Eastern states are targeted. Muslims should actually be supporting their countrymen instead of a settler who is trying to assert himself in their own country. Although, people from North East face problems in many parts of the Country as well, but then, there is never an open community clash with the people of NE India and most of the people agree that they are our fellow countrymen and stringent action should be taken against the perpetrators of the crime. &lt;br /&gt;
So, one confusion of a practicing Muslim or even a person with basic humanity is whether to support a poor Muslim who is coming to their nation in search of work or be with the national policy of opposing Bangladeshi settlement. Now, in case the government comes up with a policy to rehabilitate Hindus from Pakistan and Bangladesh, how would a Muslim convince himself that Muslims are not being meted differential treatment on the ground of religion by the government? Such policy would actually reflect pure differential treatment between Hindus and Muslims by a secular government. If we consider this from a humanitarian aspect, Hindus should also not oppose Bangladeshi Muslim settlement India as all these people come to India in search of daily bread and butter and were their fellow countrymen sixty seven years back. It is inhuman not to allow a poor man to search for his bread and butter.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, we see that it’s inhuman as well as un-Islamic not to allow Bangladeshis in India. Let’s look at another case in India, let’s look at Jammu &amp; Kashmir (J&amp;K).&lt;br /&gt;
Jammu &amp; Kashmir, internationally known as Kashmir, is a clear example where national preferences are based on religion. Muslims either want freedom or want to merge with Pakistan (this merging with Pakistan thought has been shelved by well off people looking at its present state) whereas Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and even Shia Muslims want to stay with India. There might be many technical arguments that can be put forth like the instrument of accession or matter being in the UN or Pandit Nehru’s promise to the people of Kashmir on plebiscite. The crux of the matter is that national preferences are divided on religious lines. &lt;br /&gt;
The state of affairs in Kashmir (not J&amp;K) have been very turbulent in the past quarter century. Some people might even compare it to a Gaza like situation in the early nineties. Muslims say that Indians have occupied J&amp;K whereas others say that they are Indians. Muslims say that there have been atrocities on them by the Indian security forces in the past quarter century whereas others say that the people victimized were either terrorists or anti-Nationals. So it’s clear that a division exists! Muslims say that they have been victimized and others say that the people victimized were either terrorists or anti-Nationals.&lt;br /&gt;
So, this victim card is one dangerous tactic that has to be dealt with. If there is a riot between Bangladesh Muslims and Bodos, Muslims are being victimized.&lt;br /&gt;
So the situation is quite interesting, Muslims say that they were victimized where others say that the people taken to task were either terrorists or anti-Nationals. So, there is a clear situation of conflict between faiths. Some say that nation is supreme whereas others say that religion is supreme.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, let’s look at the idea of India. Kashmiris in their fight for a separate nation even go to the extent of challenging the idea of India. No one would agree that India was India/Bharat before 1947. Many Muslims whom I speak to also do not agree with this idea of India, they consider India to be a post 1947 creation whereas a Hindu (excluding communists) will never challenge this idea of India. Actually, both these beliefs of people suit their own convenience and faiths.&lt;br /&gt;
So, I guess the above discussion is enough to say that there exists a lot of difference between Hindus &amp; Muslims in India&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;Once, Gautama Buddha, as the regular routine of a wanderer, decided to go from one village to another after sun set. There was dense forest between the villages. Villagers did not like this idea and requested him not to do so as there was a very aggressive and venomous snake species in the forest which would attack people unprovoked. But, Bhagwan Buddha did not listen to them and started for the village. Frightened villagers followed him. As Bhagwan Buddha was walking through the forest, a snake of the same species charged upon him. Villagers saw the snake and alerted Buddha. Buddha stood there and looked at the attacking snake with all his calm and composure. The snake came to Buddha and encircled his feet, it did not bite him. The villagers were surprised and asked Bhagwan Buddha about the reason for which the aggressive snake not biting him. Bhagwan Buddha gave them the answer, “When I do not think bad about anything in this world or do not hurt anyone, why will anyone hurt me”? &lt;br /&gt;
I personally feel that because it was Bhagwan Buddha even the wild animal did not bite him or hurt him. He was in such sync with nature. Ofcourse, it might not be possible in our case that we get so much in sync with nature that wild animals or anyone else, as such, does not hurt us. We can atleast be in sync with our surroundings so that people around us do not hurt us. There is a difference between disagreeing and being against something. We should prefer to disagree instead of being against something.&lt;br /&gt;
We have had regional, religious and political systems since ages. All have been changing. There were revolutions, evolutions and these revolutions and evolutions will keep on happening. Regional profiles will keep on changing, religious beliefs will keep on changing and so will political systems. Nothing is permanent!&lt;br /&gt;
There are many theories of migration of people, of countries conquering other countries, stories of faith being spread by invaders etc. We also have stories of ethnic races being wiped out by races coming from other regions.  But, I do not feel that races or cultures are wiped out. I feel that when two human races and cultures start living together, there comes up a third race and culture which is richer as well as superior than the first two races. The problem comes when the two races are averse to change and engage in conflict which mostly is violent. Why is there such aversion to change? In my opinion, the aversion to change is because the people of either of the races and cultures believe that theirs is the superior one and the other race should adapt its customs. They forget that mingling of the two races will lead to a superior race. This eventually happens as well with time and the people of the later generations are only able to understand and realize this. Still people fight for the same reason again and again.&lt;br /&gt;
India has had classy cases of people spreading their faiths, beliefs and spirituality without any violence. Classic is the case of Gautam Buddha who became a wandering monk and people became his disciples as and where he went. Such was his effect that in the next few centuries almost the whole of Asia was turning Buddhist. As Buddhism spread, it became a perceived threat to Sanatan Dharma. Then a young boy from Kerala started his journey across India by conquering all regions and people with his weapon “Shashtrartha”. His weapon “Shashtrartha” was debate on Shashtras, spirituality and philosophy of life. No Scholar could defeat him across India and finally he made four Matth’s in all the four regions in India. If you look at the Sufi Saints, their mysticism was such that people of all faiths go to their door step even today. India has innumerable examples, the latest and the best known to the world being Swami Vivekananda. It is said that it were not the mere words,” My Dear brothers and sisters of America” that mesmerized the listeners, it was the true spirit and love behind the words that did the magic. &lt;br /&gt;
So, people, beliefs, cultures, political systems etc will keep coming and will keep mingling and will keep improving. If one feels that his or her system is superior, he or she has all the right to spread it and convince people about. In the same conquest, he or she should also be open to learn from others and accept it. So, as things will keep changing, no one has the right to force upon his or her views on others, nobody has the right to eliminate people who do not accept his or her views or beliefs because change is inevitable and killing someone to avoid change is unnatural, thus inhuman.&lt;br /&gt;
Mahatma Gandhi has been the tallest icons of non-violence in the modern world. India should be proud that such a soul was born on its soil. So, it’s our foremost duty to adhere to non-violence. Non-Violence is not a sign of weakness, it’s a sign of strength. It’s the strength processed by a free man who is open to change and can express his views without any fear. Non-Violence is the most important characteristic of a free soul. It’s the spirit of Non-Violence that the whole world requires today. May god enlighten us all!!&lt;br /&gt;
Happy Independence Day!!&lt;br /&gt;
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As a teenager I once asked my father, Papa how can we get rid of corruption in India like the developed countries have? He told me that these developed nations are also not devoid of Corruption, but, they have almost zero corruption at the level where government transacts with the public. Corruption is quite prevalent at levels where governments, politicians and corporations deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the present times in India, we are only focusing on corruption at the level of corporations and government dealing and painting all politicians with the same brush which has given rise to some leaders over night. We are hardly interested in corruption at lower levels which affects us more. &lt;br /&gt;
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Eradicating corruption at lower levels requires good governance and good governance requires a non populist approach which we all fail to understand or refuse to understand. This is because good governance would force us to step out of our comfort zones. In 1989 when NT Rama Rao of TDP lost to Congress many people where happy just because they will not have to wear helmets while driving scooters. This is our basic approach.&lt;br /&gt;
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We have issues if women pillion riders have to wear a helmet, we have issues if we are stringently fined for traffic rule violations, we have issues if the government orders closure of bars at mid night. We have issues with most of the things which are actually good for us collectively as a society.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now my liking for BJP or in fact parties like BJD, TDP etc is because they give good governance. They are also not able to ensure everything because they have to after all keep the voter happy. But, they have a strong will to improve system and make it deliver.&lt;br /&gt;
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Next, my opposition to Congress is because it’s the oldest party and has ruled for quite a long time. Most (not everyone) of the people who have joined it ever since independence have had vested interests. Such people want to be associated with the people in power to push their personal agenda. These people look for “Satta Sukh”, the pleasure of being in power.&lt;br /&gt;
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Such people have also joined parties like BJP, but, they get sidelined as they rise. This is because of the robust organizational structure.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Politics one has to come to power and sustain in power to bring about change. In a scenario as mentioned above where people have issues in stepping out of their comfort zones, even a right thinking and progressive person also has to manipulate to sustain in power because power is his opportunity to bring about positive change in the society. I am sure that had Gandhiji been in electoral politics, he would have never become a “Mahatma”!&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to end with an incident. During college days, a student of some other college came to me and asked me to get some of his personal work done. I told him that he knew so many RSS pracharaks, why doesn’t he ask them for help? His reply was a bit surprising then, “Bhaya unko bataoonga to hone wala kaam bhi nahi hoga”. &lt;br /&gt;
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All the Best!!&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;2002 Deconstructed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;Ten years on, India owes it to the victims of the Gujarat riots to end the culture of impunity and prosecute those responsible for this open wound on the country&#39;s reputation,&quot; South Asia director at Human Rights Watch Meenakshi Ganguly said. I completely agree with Ms. Ganguly. But I wouldn’t have done so had she said, “India owes it to the muslims of Gujarat riots to……” She, in fact, did not.&lt;br /&gt;
Indians have died in the riots and not just Hindus &amp; Muslims. Who can deny that these riots are a blot on the reputation of our country? There can be no justification for Godhra or post-Godhra riots but I think the truth of Gujarat is not yet known to all. Let the truth be known to all irrespective of who it benefits or indicts. It certainly cannot acquit Modi or BJP because the riots took place under their guard. But are there lies &amp; propaganda being spread? Who gains by these lies? Ideally, it should not have been important to know how many died, who killed, etc since none of these Indians should have been killed by their own, but it is better if people base their decisions based on truth and not lies &amp; half-truths. The information collated in this note has been in the public domain since more than a decade but I believe not all people are aware of these events. This attempt need not be seen as defense of the guilty or the Government at that time unless it suits your agenda and requirement. I don’t think they can be defended. But there are questions, and the devil should be given his due.&lt;br /&gt;
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Were post-Godhra riots a ‘pogrom’, ‘genocide’, ‘massacre’ or the ‘worst-ever massacre in India.’? You may be reminded of similar characterizations by others in another context, which have rightly been dismissed as fantastic on this page.&lt;br /&gt;
Ranganath Mishra Commission gave the number of 1984 Sikh-riot victims as 3874 of which 2307 were in delhi. &lt;br /&gt;
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Is 1984 forgotten or forgiven, since the learned men and media are not talking about bringing justice to its victims any longer?&lt;br /&gt;
Who apologized for those riots? Who showed remorse? &lt;br /&gt;
Which political leader or how many rioters were convicted for those riots? And who killed these 3874 innocent citizens of India within 3 days? How come not even a single rioter was killed during the 5 days of rioting during 1984? Was not imposing curfew in Delhi a sinister plot of the then Government? &lt;br /&gt;
No, this is not what aboutery but a reminder to those who need to ask these questions as well while demanding answers for the Gujarat riots. It is also important to know the reaction of both governments in 1984 &amp; 2002 during the riots.&lt;br /&gt;
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 &lt;b&gt;Was it really a one-sided massacre?  &lt;br /&gt;
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1. If 790 muslims &amp; 254 hindus were killed during post-Godhra riots, why are killings of muslims exaggerated to the levels of thousands?&lt;br /&gt;
2.  Why isn’t the killing of 254 hindus in the same riots ever mentioned either by BJP baiters or the media? Isn’t it strange? &lt;br /&gt;
http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=46538&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Who killed these 254 hindus? The poltergeist in S-4 coach? Does this mean that Muslims were offensive as well?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The Times of India reported on 17th March that more than 10,000 Hindus were living in refugee camps in Ahmedabad.  Again on 25 April 2002, out of the 1, 40, 000 people living in various refugee camps, more than 42,000 of them were Hindus. This despite of Muslim population being 10% and the state governed by a Hindu nationalist party. What does this indicate?&lt;br /&gt;
4. Large scale retaliation from the Hindus started on the 27th night and went on through the day on 28th February. . On 28 February there was large-scale retaliation from the Hindus. But on 1st March, the second day of the riots, the Muslim counterattack began. It was a one-sided affair only for 24-hours. Muslims retaliated from 28th February onwards. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;India Today in the weekly’s issue dated 15 April 2002:&lt;br /&gt;
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“On  13/3/2002, the Supreme Court’s ruling banning any religious activity in Ayodhya proved a psychological setback to the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and its affiliates. It was also the day when some people in the walled city of Ahmedabad burst crackers in celebration and unfurled banners saying-“You darkened our skies. We will spill your blood on the streets.”&lt;br /&gt;
5. &lt;b&gt;The Hindu on 2/2/2002&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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“But unlike Thursday (i.e. Feb 28) when one community was entirely at the receiving end, the minority backlash (on 1st March, Friday) caused further worsening of the situation. Police presence had little impact on the two communities pelting stones at each other in Bapunagar, Gomtipur, Dariapur, Shahpur, Naroda and other areas from where incidents of firing had been reported. But there were no reports of casualty. Pitched battle was continuing between the two communities late in the evening. The official sources said timely arrival of the police foiled a retaliatory attempt to break into a prominent temple in Jamalpur locality in the walled city.”&lt;br /&gt;
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6. The Indian Express 2/3/2002: “Tension escalated in the walled city areas just before the Friday prayers. There were violent clashes between mobs in Jamalpur, Bapunagar, and Rakhial.” Clearly Muslims were on the offensive. And The &lt;br /&gt;
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7. Times of India also reported the same day: “There were signs of retaliation in areas like Juhapura, Kalupur, Dariapur and Shahpur…”&lt;br /&gt;
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8. The Times of India’s on 18/3/2002: &lt;br /&gt;
“Mobs attack police post, combing operations on&lt;br /&gt;
Ahmedabad: Police have carried out massive combing operations in the city following attacks by violent mobs on the security personnel on Friday night. During the combing operations, a 65-year-old man died of shock after he was arrested by an army contingent from Dariapur for possessing a revolver. A youth was killed in police firing when a 5,000-strong mob tried to attack Dudheshwar police chowky in Madhavpura area. According to police sources, an army contingent, which was confronted by a 700-strong mob, identified the accused, a resident of Char Musa Ni Pole in Dariapur, who was brandishing a revolver and a big knife. The mob was dispersed by the army. In the combing operation that followed, the army men traced the accused at Char Musa Ni pole in Dariapur. He was arrested and taken to Dariapur police station where he complained of uneasiness. The accused was taken to the civil hospital where he was declared brought dead. A few hours later, a 23-year-old fell victim to police firing while eight persons were injured in Dudheshwar area when police tried to disperse a violent mob. “Our men braved heavy stone-pelting and petrol bombs but the mob swelled beyond 5,000 around 3 am, forcing us to open fire in self-defence,” says G C Ravat, senior Police Inspector at Madhavpura police station. The police and State Reserve Police personnel fired 21 rounds to disperse the mob and prevent it from advancing to the majority community-dominated areas. Madhavpura police has registered a case against 38 persons for murderous assault on police chowky and clamped curfew in its police station area. Police recovered crude bombs, sharp-edged weapons, slings and crates of petrol bombs. “We have recovered a lot of substances which could be possibly used for fuelling violence,” says M T Mehta, Assistant Commissioner of Police, Ahmedabad. Madhavpura police also opened fire in Idgah area to control violence unleashed by a 500-strong mob. Three people were injured. Police fired three rounds and lobbed three tear gas cells to disperse a mob at Rakhial cross-roads. Meanwhile, indefinite curfew continued in the areas of Kalupur, Shahpur and Karanj. Madhavpura and Dariapur were put under curfew since 3 am on Saturday. Police arrested 112 persons from six police commissionerate zones. Reports of crowds assembling at various places in Amraiwadi, Rakhial, Khadia, Karanj and Kalupur areas kept pouring in at the police control room.”&lt;br /&gt;
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9. India Today written by Uday Mahurkar in the weekly’s issue dated 20 May 2002:&lt;br /&gt;
“On the morning of May 7, Amrit Chagganlal, a camel cart owner, was passing by the Sarkhej area on Ahmedabad’s outskirts. It was the 70th day since communal riots had engulfed Gujarat following the killing of 57 Ramsevaks at Godhra on February 27. It was difficult and dangerous times but Chagganlal ventured out in a bid to eke out a living. A mob suddenly appeared as if out of nowhere, surrounded him and hacked him to death before throwing his body into a well. Chagganlal was the 933rd victim of the continuing communal violence in Gujarat that shows no signs of ebbing…&lt;br /&gt;
By nightfall, the death toll had crossed the 940 mark when a group of Muslims in Ahmedabad’s Shah Alam area drew Hindus out by throwing bombs at their homes in the Maninagar area and then launched a fierce attack with country-made weapons and crude bombs. BSF jawans who intervened were fired upon before they killed five of the attackers and arrested several others with a huge quantity of weapons including a country made cannon. True, since the last round of violence began on Ramnavmi day on April 21, violence has been restricted to Ahmedabad, Vadodara and Lunawada, a small town in Panchmahal distric. The repeated recovery of huge catches from Muslim pockets forced some of the ministers to ask BJP about the steps the police was taking to flush out the armouries…&lt;br /&gt;
Says Dharmesh Vyas, 26, a employee of a private company who is recovering from bullet wounds sustained in firing by Muslim mobs: “If Modi is removed, the violence will increase because there is a feeling among the Hindus that the riots are now engineered by BJP’s rivals to get rid of him. It is BJP’s presence that is keeping Hindus in check. Once he is gone, things will become uncontrollable”…&lt;br /&gt;
In Ahmedabad, riots continue despite the two peace meetings between religious leaders of both Muslims and the RSS-VHP combine and joint statements calling for peace. It took the VHP less than two days to consider backtracking from peace initiatives following attacks on Hindu locality.&lt;br /&gt;
Among the factors which kept the communal pot boiling in Ahmedabad are the 40-odd relief camps in the city in which over 50,000 Muslims are lodged…There is pressure on the government to close down some of these relief camps amid unconfirmed reports that at least some of these camps have become sanctuaries for Muslim trouble-makers…”&lt;br /&gt;
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10. The Tribune on 30/4/2002 &lt;br /&gt;
“Ahmedabad, April 29&lt;br /&gt;
The death toll in Gujarat since the February 27 Sabarmati Express carnage reached 900 today, with the fragile peace being shattered repeatedly in Ahmedabad and Vadodara.&lt;br /&gt;
The police said of the seven persons seriously injured when the crude bombs they were making exploded in their house in Kalupur this morning, two had died in hospital. One person was stabbed to death in Gomtipur within hours of the conclusion of the peace rally led by Defence Minister George Fernandes and Chief Minister Narendra BJP. Prior to the rally, three persons had died in Chandola Talao area under the Maninagar police station.In Kalupur, two persons died in police firing late last night as sporadic violence, arson and group clashes continued.&lt;br /&gt;
A report from Anand said that two scooter-borne men tried to shoot a man on his morning walk, but he ducked in time. The police later recovered the revolver and cartridge shell from the spot.&lt;br /&gt;
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11. Another story of same day:&lt;br /&gt;
VADODARA: Despite imposition of indefinite curfew and heavy security bandobast, sporadic incidents of violence and arson continued unabated in Vadodara city for the fourth consecutive day.&lt;br /&gt;
At least three persons were injured in private firing and another in stone throwing following group clashes at Navidharti in the curfew-bound Karelibaug area, where a rocket launcher was also recovered by the police early today.&lt;br /&gt;
Reports said at least 15 persons were injured, including five in private firing and as many in acid bomb attacks, during the past 24 hours in the city as mobs engaged in intense fighting.  Miscreants also reportedly set ablaze more than 36 shops, houses, kiosks, restaurants and godowns in the riot-hit city in the past 24 hours.&lt;br /&gt;
Reports said several families belonging to the majority (Hindu) community had fled from Tandalja following mounting communal tension in the area, where the authorities had provided shelter to nearly 2000 members of the minority community. Meanwhile, the police registered a case of attempt to murder against Congress councillor Manzoorkhan Pathan and arrested his brother on the same charge for their alleged murderous attack on a family at Junigadi Harijan Basti on Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;
According to the police, violence also erupted in Savli past night, forcing the police to open two rounds of fire to disperse the warring mobs. UNI”&lt;br /&gt;
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12. The Times of India on 18/3/2002 written by Leena Misra:&lt;br /&gt;
“Ahmedabad: When Union Home Minister L K Advani answered Rajya Sabha MP Shabana Azmi’s query in the parliament on Monday saying that more from the majority community fell to police bullets than the minorities in the recent riots, he was referring to the whole of Gujarat. Sixty per cent of the people who died due to police firing were from the majority community, the state-wide figures show. But the scene in Ahmedabad is quite the reverse. In the city that is considered communally and politically most volatile, more members of the minority community died in the police firing. According to figures available, 57 per cent (23 out of 40) of the people killed in the police firing belong to the minority community. This figure should be seen with the toll of rioting in Ahmedabad which shows that out of the 286 people killed, some 41 were Hindus killed in about 5,500 rounds of firing by the police. Similarly in the state, of the 571 people who died in other violence, 494 people from the minority community were killed in the riots that followed the Godhra carnage as compared to 77 from the majority community. But the state figures, as against Ahmedabad, show that of the 100 that succumbed to the police firing, 60 were Hindus.”&lt;br /&gt;
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13. Times of India, Ahmedabad Edition on 28/2/2002: Police officials said that the backlash could be especially seen in Ahmedabad, where out of the total number of persons injured in stabbings, 62 are Hindus and 30 Muslims. The overall figures for Gujarat of those injured in stabbings tell a different story, with 131 Hindus and 179 Muslims.&lt;br /&gt;
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14. 18th march 2002:: Leena Misra :::: …..by 17th March,137 Hindus had been killed in the riots,77 in riots and 60 in police firing. That is a total of 137 Hindus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Did the State connive with the rioters?&lt;br /&gt;
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15. 100% of 6000-strong police force was on the streets of Ahmedabad but just not enough to contain such wide-spread violence, 1500 of them armed. SRF too was pushed into service. 1000-strong army contingent arrived on 28th February itself with more to follow the following days.&lt;br /&gt;
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16. The Times of India: “The sparse police presence looked like a drop in the ocean of violence.” This despite the deployment of the entire police force.” The Hindu: “Mob fury reached its crescendo and “Police were outnumbered by the rioters”. The Telegraph &amp; The Tribune reported the same. The Times of India reported on 2nd March 2002 on events on 1st March (Friday)- “Neither the Army nor the shoot-at-sight orders given to Gujarat Police could stop riots on Friday 1st March…” And this was on 1st March 2002 when the violence was much less than 28 Feb (Thursday). &lt;br /&gt;
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17. Shoot-at-sight orders given to police on the night of 28th Februray itself. The police shot 98 rioters between February 27th &amp; 2nd March, majority of the hindus.? &lt;br /&gt;
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18. More than 600 rounds of fire were fired in Ahmedabad on 27th February. &lt;br /&gt;
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19. The police fired more than 3900 rounds &amp; about 6500 tear gas shells between 27th February &amp; 1st March – 3 days. &lt;br /&gt;
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20. Shoot-at-sight order issued in Godhra on the night of 27th February itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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21. Despite the presence of the Army for 73 out of 74 days, the police fired as many 15000 tear gas shells, and a total of 10500 rounds. Out of the total people killed in the riots, about 20 % have been shot dead by the police.&lt;br /&gt;
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22. “On 1st March, the police shot dead 17 people in Ahmedabad alone-as reported by The Hindu dated 2nd March 2002. &lt;br /&gt;
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23. “On 2nd March 2002-police firing resulted in 47 deaths” The Hindu, 3/3/2002. &lt;br /&gt;
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24. Indian Express on 3/3/2002 said that 77 people were killed in Police/Army firing on 2nd March 2002. Majority of those killed were hindus.&lt;br /&gt;
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25. Indefinite curfew was clamped in 26 cities/towns including ahmedabad, surat, baroda, rajkot, nadiad, anand and kaira by Feb 28th in addition to the indefinite curfew in force in Godhra since February 27 : The Hindu dated 1st March 2002&lt;br /&gt;
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26. 827 preventive arrests were made on 27th February itself. &lt;br /&gt;
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27. On 28 April 2002 The Times of India reported that 9954 Hindus and 4035 Muslims were arrested by police as substantive arrests and 17947 Hindus and 3616 Muslims were arrested as a preventive measure.&lt;br /&gt;
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28. Of  25486 accused the Guj police arrested 25,204 people&lt;br /&gt;
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29. Indian Express, ToI, Telegraph, Hindu and other newspapers reported that army units had arrived in Ahmedabad and other cities. This means that  army started arriving on 28th itself. State Government had requested for the army presence in cities/towns on 27th itself and the then Defense Minister, George Fernandes, reached Ahmedabad on 28th morning along with senior army officers. &lt;br /&gt;
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30. Army staged its first flag march on 1st March at 11:30am with shoot-at-sight orders in hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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31. The Indian Express dated 3rd March reported that 77 people were killed in Police firing on 2nd March 2002, majority of them Hindus. Also The Times of India in a report titled “More fall prey to police firings in Gujarat” dated 28 April 2002 says that a total of 35,552 people were arrested for rioting in Gujarat- out of whom 27,901 were Hindus.&lt;br /&gt;
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32. Of the first 285 convictions for post-godhra riots, 251 were hindus. Gujarat police has had a strong role in the courts being able to convict them.&lt;br /&gt;
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33. The Adivasi Outrage &amp; How police played a vital role in saving muslims losing more than 30 personnel. &lt;br /&gt;
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34. Action-Reaction-Action-Rea……… &lt;br /&gt;
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35. The India Today 20/5/2002: ”A series of attacks on policemen by Muslims has further added to the lack of faith. Now, strapped with the anti-Muslim label, the police has been slow in acting against Muslim fanatics”.&lt;br /&gt;
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36. Anti-BJP camp claims he is not sorry about 2002. In the State Assembly after the riots NM made a statement that said, “Are we not supposed to soul-search ourselves? Whether it is Godhra incident or post-Godhra it does not enhance the prestige of any decent society. The riots are a stigma on humanity and do not help anyone to hold his head high. Then why is there a difference of opinion”. &lt;br /&gt;
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I also came across quite a few comments since 2002 from senior leaders of BJP condemning the riots and expressing sadness. Honestly, I did believe (as I was fed this by the media) that except for Atal Bihari Vajpayee &amp; LK Advani, no other senior BJP leader showed any remorse. These comments came as a pleasant surprise, particularly Narendra Modi’s comments.&lt;br /&gt;
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1. After the 2002 Gujarat riots Narendra Modi made a statement in the State Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) in March 2002. One paragraph from that statement is: “Are we not supposed to soul-search ourselves? Whether it is Godhra incident or post-Godhra it does not enhance the prestige of any decent society. The riots are a stigma on humanity and do not help anyone to hold his head high. Then why is there a difference of opinion”.&lt;br /&gt;
2. On  Aaj Tak‘s Prabhu Chawla on its program Seedhi Baat, the excerpts of which were published in India Today weekly dated 4 Nov 2002, Narendra Modi was asked “Prime Minister Vajpayee and Home Minister Advani have said that whatever happened in Gujarat was wrong” to which he said, “I say the same thing. The communal riots in Gujarat were unfortunate and we are sad they took place.”&lt;br /&gt;
3. ”Constitution of India is supreme for us. As a Chief Minister of the state, pain of anybody in the state is my pain. (Delivering) Justice to everyone is the duty of the state,” BJP said&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;There has been no apology from either Narendra Modi or any other senior BJP leader. Maybe he is waiting to be elected as the Prime Minister like Manmohan Singh, post which – like him – he will do so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/1865945375319279985/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2013/01/gujrat-2002-facts.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/1865945375319279985'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/1865945375319279985'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2013/01/gujrat-2002-facts.html' title='Gujrat 2002 Facts'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-2581312831582030395</id><published>2012-12-29T06:44:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2012-12-29T06:44:54.272-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Delhi Rape"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rape"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="society"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="women"/><title type='text'>Abuse me:- Its Sad but True!!</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;
You are free to abuse me for this, but, I have a few points to make after listening to so many people during these days...&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Women say they do not wish to be seen as sex objects: - I say women should   stop projecting themselves as sex objects (Look i have said nothing about clothes, you can say so). But, the moment they show me their legs and curves, frankly speaking, I will see them as a sex object. I will of course not rape them, but, that’s only my case! Now, kindly do not tell me about the women in my family. I am conditioned enough not to look at them that way.&lt;br /&gt;
2) This is about the 18 year old who has been accused in this case. People have started discussing on the age to declare a person as juvenile. I ask, what has the society given to that 18 year old? He would have himself been born to abuses and brought up with abuses. His life itself would have been an abuse. He himself has been a victim of rape by society. I can still understand a 25 year old understanding the rule/fear of Law. I have serious doubts about a 18 year old being able to understand the rule/fear of law, especially one having lived such a life.&lt;br /&gt;
3) I still have my belief in humanity and am sure that at least one of them would have stopped the main accused while he was assaulting the woman in such a barbaric/inhuman manner. &lt;br /&gt;
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Let the course of law prevail and let us not have a media trial to pressurize the government so that it acts in haste. I believe that the law will take its own course as it took in the case of Kasab who committed a no lesser crime.&lt;br /&gt;
</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/2581312831582030395/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2012/12/abuse-me-its-sad-but-true.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/2581312831582030395'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/2581312831582030395'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2012/12/abuse-me-its-sad-but-true.html' title='Abuse me:- Its Sad but True!!'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-211553369295951536</id><published>2012-12-24T04:03:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-12-24T04:06:22.582-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Delhi Rape"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rape"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="women"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Women Freedom"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Women Rights"/><title type='text'>Women Women Women</title><content type='html'>Yesterday in a newspaper, I saw the photograph of a girl holding a placard which said “If I show my legs, it does not mean I intend to spread them”. I could not distinguish whether it was “BOLD” or “VULGAR”??&lt;br /&gt;
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In any case, the people here in Delhi are fighting for empowerment of women. They want Delhi to be a safe place for women. A place where women can go to work at any hour, can have their opinion, can wear anything they wish to and etc. I agree!!&lt;br /&gt;
Let me narrate a short story. A girl from a Yadav family of a sub-urban area in Delhi qualified for MBBS. She was ecstatic, so was her family. While she was doing her MBBS she fell in love a Jat boy who was her course mate. In the final year of her course, her parents asked her about the kind of life partner she would like to have. She told her parents that she had already found one and would like to marry him. When her parents inquired about the guy, she told them everything. Her parents were not ready to get her married into a different caste. On further insistence her parents called the guy and tried to convince him to end their relationship. They guy did not agree to do so. The girl’s parents again tried to convince the girl. She was adamant and did not bow down to her parent’s pressure. Later in night, her father, with the help of her relatives strangulated her to death and cremated her in the morning. No inquiry, no police case, no remorse. The End!!&lt;br /&gt;
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No one knows this story. There must be many such stories which would have gone unnoticed as they never came out. The only question her parents were left to answer was “Kyun bheja ladki ko bahar padhne? Humne pehle hi mana kiya tha!” (Why did you send your girl to study away from home? We had asked you not to do so).&lt;br /&gt;
I am concerned about safety of women who go to work. I wish girls get all the rights, but, at present, I am least bothered about the right of a girl to wear anything or the right of a girl to party all night.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am most concerned about the girl who will have to stop her studies after this incident, the girl who will never be able to come out of the “Purda” citing threat, the female who will never grow more that a fetus. All this protest does not bring about any change in her life.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry to say, but I feel, the crowds coming out in protest are more concerned (other than getting guilty punished) about the right of the girl to wear whatever she wants to and the girl who wants to be safe during a late night party. I believe that depiction of lavish lifestyle by men and women is also a deterrent to a woman being allowed to go to school or a woman being allowed to shed the “Purdah”. Sad but True!&lt;br /&gt;
If modern woman expects a man to be mature enough and support her cause for gender equality, I would also urge the modern woman to think of the woman who lives in backward parts of India who is looking for an opportunity to breathe in free air. I believe that its always the responsibility of the empowered and the educated to make way for the liberation of the underprivileged and undereducated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right and wrong is not absolute. Something right for someone could be wrong for someone else! Finally, India is not Hypocritical, India is dual. India has duality in its society which needs to be addressed! It’s a process of slow change and I wish we have a better society in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;
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</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/211553369295951536/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2012/12/women-women-women.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/211553369295951536'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/211553369295951536'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2012/12/women-women-women.html' title='Women Women Women'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-6023306039722357870</id><published>2012-12-01T19:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-12-01T19:57:19.710-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Azaadi"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Freedom"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Kashmir"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="RSS"/><title type='text'>My Introduction to Fundamentalism</title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;
To tell you about my introduction to Fundamentalism, I will have to start the story right from the days of my schooling. I was born and brought up in a very protected environment; it was high on intellectual/academic inputs but almost completely lacked real time exposure to life. I knew only two campuses, NIRD (National Institute of Rural Development) where I stayed and NPA (National Police Academy) where my school was. By protected environment I mean, I had no opportunities to make day to day operational decisions. My life was highly structured, wake up at six, in the toilet for half an hour completing my sleep, opening books for half an hour, getting ready for school, catching the school bus at 8.15, coming back at 3.30, again opening the book for about an hour, playing in the campus from 5 to 7, again opening the book from 7 to 9, then watching TV till 10 and then finally going to sleep. This was my daily schedule which changed only on holidays and festivals.&lt;br /&gt;
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By intellectual inputs, I mean, I believed beyond doubt in facts like India is the greatest country in the world, India is an example of unity in diversity, Indian freedom fighters were the greatest people ever born on earth, we should respect elders, all religions should be respected, cigarettes and liquor are a curse to the society etc. Lack of practical exposure can be ascertained by the fact that, I was bhaya to all girls younger to me and all girls elder to me were didi’s (no scope left for morality!!), Rakshabandhan was among the most awaited festivals, the number of Rakhis on a boy’s hand was a measure of his local standing, and finally, I believed that affairs between boys and girls could happen only in movies! These thoughts and perceptions were deeply ingrained in me, this can be figured out by the fact that carnal feelings towards a female always had a fair amount of guilt attached to it, traces of it still carry on!&lt;br /&gt;
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Although, I started experiencing life firsthand from class eleven. The first shock of my life came to me when my father was transferred to NIRD’s regional centre at Guwahati, Assam, as its director.I moved to Guwahati when I got into class twelve. The Director’s Bungalow, in the campus, was not ready. Thus, we had to take a house on rent in the city. New place meant new set of friends, both at home and school, new thoughts, new practises and new topics of discussion. One important topic of discussion which gave me my first shock was “the indifferent attitude of India towards the North Eastern states” (I do not know if this still remains as the favourite topic as things have changed a lot in the past 15 years there). I actually could not understand the difference between “India” and “Northeast”. It was little later that I could figure out that India meant “New Delhi”. Most people might not be able to relate to my confusion, but, believe me it was confusing. My belief of India had shaken. Now, it meant, “Hyderabad and India were different”, this was not acceptable to me. I started taking these discussions personally, I started defending India because I believed India could never be wrong. This was my first expression of Fundamentalism. I call it fundamentalism because I defended India because of my feelings and beliefs, not by rationality or logic. I made my logic on the basis of my feelings and beliefs; one can call it as conditioning also. Above all, it was a fundamentalist approach because I felt that I was right and “they were wrong”.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was the time when my de-conditioning started. I, while introspecting, had started questioning my beliefs. I started searching for India. Some of my personality traits like an inquisitive and rebellious mind, docile nature and ability to survive in an unsettled physical and mental state have been very helpful in my quest. These traits also act like double edged swords, thus, if I have gained a lot out of it, I have also lost a lot. Anyways, all this is a part and parcel of life! Also, I will limit my discussion on my quest for India here as this piece of writing is also a part of the same. One realization I made during my stay in the Northeast is about the importance of politics and economics in a person’s life. Although, I still did not know (at that time) how these two things are important! Fortunately or Unfortunately, I somehow qualified for engineering immediately after my twelfth class. My only option was REC Srinagar as I was not a domicile of the state and was not eligible for admission in Assam Government Colleges and my score in the entrance test did not qualify me for a seat in any other REC. I believe, this was destined to happen as this was the place that I was about to get the second major shock of my life.&lt;br /&gt;
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The two questions which I had to answer within a few days of coming to Kashmir and were no less that a shock to me were: - “Tum Hindustan se aye ho?”(Meaning, have you come from India?) and “What is your religion?”. Although, my being a Hindu and being from a different state did not in any way affect my relationship with the locals. But still, my confusion prevailed. As far as I remember, I up till an age of 13 or 14 did not know that I am a Brahmin. Another thing that I was fed with during the 1992 riots is that, it was not Hindus and Muslims fighting, these were all hired criminals. There was no difference between Hindus and Muslims. I still do not know if this is the right way of upbringing secular children in secular India! In the context of the questions relating to Hindustan and religion, I later observed that religion had a lot of involvement in the daily life of a Kashmiri. This never existed in my life; I did not know the importance of religion in my life. The only thing I knew was that Eid was a Muslim festival and seriously felt sad for Muslims because they did not have exciting festivals like Holi and Diwali. Because of this involvement of religion in daily life, I got introduced to Islam. It was great and exciting, the people talking about Islam were not necessarily the Mullahs, there were many clean shaven, jeans wearing, and convent educated boys giving logical views on practises in Islam and their validity in daily life. I was impressed and in my own words “I would have converted to Islam, had those people convinced me of their view on mandatory hijab by women and had they not, of course unknowingly, hurt my pride as a Hindu”(Of course, courage would have also been required). I had started comparing Hinduism with Islam. I did not know about any logic supporting daily life practises in Hinduism. On the contrary, I had only heard of bad practises like casteism, sati pratha, etc in Hinduism. To be precise, I had started developing an inferiority complex. I felt, I belonged to a non contemporary religion which had outdated practises. I had no answers for these questions and was also unable to find a source to get the answers. My major handicap that continues to be one is that I am not a voracious reader and there was no source other than books, especially in those days when internet had just reached India, which could have solved my problem. But, I was destined to get my answers from a different channel. Differences cropped up between students from other regions and the students from Kashmir, tension escalated and later the students from other regions decided that it was not safe for them to continue their studies in Kashmir. They decided to approach the Government of India and ask the government to move us all out of Kashmir. The government, after months of following up and protest, finally agreed. I was moved from REC Srinagar to REC Bhopal. In the process of following up with the government, I got in touch with RSS (Rastriya Swayamsewak Sangh). RSS sympathised with us during our migration process and helped us on many accounts. Also, interaction with some top leaders like LK Advani, who were also former RSS pracharaks, created a soft corner for RSS in my heart. This was the start of my association with Hindu fundamentalism.&lt;br /&gt;
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REC Bhopal was altogether quite different from REC Srinagar. Students were least bothered about the world and were interested in living their life to the extreme. As usual, I because of my habit of giving valuable advice free of cost on all issues irrespective of the issue’s relevance to me and irrespective of having being asked to give one entered the “Hall of Fame” of the college. In the mean time, I also had RSS pracharaks visiting me. This was because, I was among the few people who entertained them and showed keen interest in their “idea of India”. I was already confused with both India and Hinduism. These were the people who connected India with Hinduism. Their idea of “India is Hinduism” and “ Hinduism is India” excited me. This was for the first time I was hearing rational talk on India and Hinduism. My inferiority complex, of being a Hindu, attracted me towards these pracharaks and they quenched my thirst for logical Hinduism. Adding to my inclination was the fact that these pracharaks were highly qualified men with modern logic supporting traditional Hindu practises. One of them was a M.Tech from REC Bhopal itself. As my association with RSS increased, I was invited for a two day introduction camp in Bhopal itself. I attended it, this increased my attachment with the organisation. Again, I went on a two day visit to tribal villages in Madhya Pradesh. This further increased my respect for the organisation. I started conforming to the view that it is only because of the sangh that the country is surviving attempts by foreign forces to disintegrate it. My logic started growing stronger and stronger in support of the sangh. I started feeling that these were actually the answers I was looking for since a long time. But, my personality traits mentioned above helped me again. It was later, I realised that all that these people whom I met in Kashmir and Bhopal were talking about two truths. Like these two many other truths also existed in the world. Religion is a social, economic and political system which stands on very strong logic. But, believing that only my system is right and that of others is wrong, is a fundamentalist approach. Although, you will not find a single fundamentalist claiming openly that other systems are wrong, but, they so strongly impress upon the fact about their system being right that a person by general analogy infers that the other system is wrong! A person starts looking only at the threats associated with the other system and does not look at the liberals having faith in that system around him as his strength. Another weakness of these fundamentalists is that these people use time based and incident based logic. This can be noted by two common observations, a fundamentalist always says before he puts his point, “in those days” or “if you look at this incident”. Now, I reply to these arguments by saying; “gone are the days” and “look at other incidents”.&lt;br /&gt;
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I was lucky that I got out of the clutches of fundamentalists, but, everybody is not that lucky. Some end up losing their lives and consider it to be their passports to heaven, jannat, swarg etc. Mind you all these are different. Because, reaching here requires you to stick to different set of practices. As one of my college friend, Kesari Kumar, used to put forth to my Kashmiri seniors. “Sir, you will never go to swarg because you eat beef and I will never go to jannat because I do not offer namaz”, Strange Indeed! Even more dangerous than their misinformed death is that, these people inspire many others to follow their path. In the specific case of Kashmir, I would consider that inferiority complex has developed in a Kashmiri after being branded as a terrorist for more than two decades now! This multiplies in an idle condition where a person has nothing to do for self development. He receives no appreciation, here he finds the idea of giving life for the purpose of so called truth better than living. He might get appreciation for his sacrifice, but what is the use when he himself is not there to listen to it. Adding to the woes of a Kashmiri is the way in which the world conceives of Islam these days. This is the view that needs to change if the world wants to get rid of Islamic fundamentalism.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was very saddening to see my frenzied fellow countrymen celebrating a person’s death yesterday, no matter that the person was a terrorist. This, I believe, is not our value system. Yesterday evening one of the radio stations was broadcasting a story (supposed to be humorous) in which it named a dog as Kasab. I consider it disgusting and not humorous.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although, in principle I am against capital punishment, Kasab’s hanging for me was a routine legal activity for the heinous crime he had committed. And, I do not consider it as avenging the death of our slain soldiers. I carry a very high regard for our soldiers who fought to protect Mumbai from these terrorists. Had Zaki Ur Rehman Lakhwi been killed or captured, I would have considered it as a big step in our fight against terrorism. &lt;br /&gt;
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</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/2012923733581785650/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2012/11/kasab-hanged-theres-nothing-to-rejoice.html#comment-form' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/2012923733581785650'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/2012923733581785650'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2012/11/kasab-hanged-theres-nothing-to-rejoice.html' title='Kasab Hanged- There&#39;s nothing to rejoice about it'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-4219287755820977411</id><published>2011-11-05T01:54:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-11-05T01:55:02.864-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Two Three Hundred Ramayanas: Five Examples and Three Thoughts on Translation</title><content type='html'>How many Ramayanas ? Three hundred? Three thousand? At the end of some Ramayanas , a question is sometimes asked: How many Ramayanas have there been? And there are stories that answer the question. Here is one.
One day when Rama was sitting on his throne, his ring fell off. When it touched the earth, it made a hole in the ground and disappeared into it. It was gone. His trusty henchman, Hanuman, was at his feet. Rama said to Hanuman, &quot;Look, my ring is lost. Find it for me.&quot;
Now Hanuman can enter any hole, no matter how tiny. He had the power to become the smallest of the small and larger than the largest thing. So he took on a tiny form and went down the hole.
He went and went and went and suddenly fell into the netherworld. There were women down there. &quot;Look, a tiny monkey! It&#39;s fallen from above? Then they caught him and placed him on a platter (thali ). The King of Spirits (bhut ), who lives in the netherworld, likes to eat animals. So Hanuman was sent to him as part of his dinner, along with his vegetables. Hanuman sat on the platter, wondering what to do.
While this was going on in the netherworld, Rama sat on his throne on the earth above. The sage Vasistha and the god Brahma came to see him. They said to Rama, &quot;We want to talk privately with you. We don&#39;t want anyone to hear what we say or interrupt it. Do we agree?&quot;
&quot;All right,&quot; said Rama, &quot;we&#39;ll talk.&quot;
Then they said, &quot;Lay down a rule. If anyone comes in as we are talking, his head should be cut off.&quot;
&quot;It will be done,&quot; said Rama.
Who would be the most trustworthy person to guard the door? Hanuman had gone down to fetch the ring. Rama trusted no one more than Laksmana,
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so he asked Laksmana to stand by the door. &quot;Don&#39;t allow anyone to enter,&quot; he ordered.
Laksmana was standing at the door when the sage Visvamitra appeared and said, &quot;I need to see Rama at once. It&#39;s urgent. Tell me, where is Rama?&quot;
Laksmana said, &quot;Don&#39;t go in now. He is talking to some people. It&#39;s important.&quot;
&quot;What is there that Rama would hide from me?&quot; said Visvamitra. &quot;I must go in, right now.&quot;
Laksmana said, &quot;I&#39;11 have to ask his permission before I can let you in.&quot;
&quot;Go in and ask then.&quot;
&quot;I can&#39;t go in till Rama comes out. You&#39;ll have to wait.&quot;
&quot;If you don&#39;t go in and announce my presence, I&#39;ll burn the entire kingdom of Ayodhya with a curse,&quot; said Visvamitra.
Laksmana thought, &quot;If I go in now, I&#39;ll die. But if I don&#39;t go, this hotheaded man will burn down the kingdom. All the subjects, all things living in it, will die. It&#39;s better that I alone should die.&quot;
So he went right in.
Rama asked him, &quot;What&#39;s the matter?&quot;
&quot;Visvamitra is here.&quot;
&quot;Send him in.&quot;
So Visvamitra went in. The private talk had already come to an end. Brahma and Vasistha had come to see Rama and say to him, &quot;Your work in the world of human beings is over. Your incarnation as Rama must now he given up. Leave this body, come up, and rejoin the gods.&quot; That&#39;s all they wanted to say.
Laksmana said to Rama, &quot;Brother, you should cut off my head.&quot;
Rama said, &quot;Why? We had nothing more to say. Nothing was left. So why should I cut off your head?&quot;
Laksmana said, &quot;You can&#39;t do that. You can&#39;t let me off because I&#39;m your brother. There&#39;ll be a blot on Rama&#39;s name. You didn&#39;t spare your wife. You sent her to the jungle. I must be punished. I will leave.&quot;
Laksmana was an avatar of Sesa, the serpent on whom Visnu sleeps. His time was up too. He went directly to the river Sarayu and disappeared in the flowing waters.
When Laksmana relinquished his body, Rama summoned all his followers, Vibhisana, Sugriva, and others, and arranged for the coronation of his twin sons, Lava and Kusa. Then Rama too entered the river Sarayu.
All this while, Hanuman was in the netherworld. When he was finally taken to the King of Spirits, he kept repeating the name of Rama. &quot;Rama Rama Rama . . .&quot;
Then the King of Spirits asked, &quot;Who are you?&quot;
&quot;Hanuman.&quot;
&quot;Hanuman? Why have you come here?&quot;
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&quot;Rama&#39;s ring fell into a hole. I&#39;ve come to fetch it.&quot;
The king looked around and showed him a platter. On it were thousands of rings. They were all Rama&#39;s rings. The king brought the platter to Hanuman, set it down, and said, &quot;Pick out your Rama&#39;s ring and take it.&quot;
They were all exactly the same. &quot;I don&#39;t know which one it is,&quot; said Hanuman, shaking his head.
The King of Spirits said, &quot;There have been as many Ramas as there are rings on this platter. When you return to earth, you will not find Rama. This incarnation of Rama is now over. Whenever an incarnation of Rama is about to be over, his ring falls down. I collect them and keep them. Now you can go.&quot;
So Hanuman left.
This story is usually told to suggest that for every such Rama there is a Ramayana .[1] The number of Ramayanas and the range of their influence in South and Southeast Asia over the past twenty-five hundred years or more are astonishing. Just a list of languages in which the Rama story is found makes one gasp: Annamese, Balinese, Bengali, Cambodian, Chinese, Gujarati, Javanese, Kannada, Kashmiri, Khotanese, Laotian, Malaysian, Marathi, Oriya, Prakrit, Sanskrit, Santali, Sinhalese, Tamil, Telugu, Thai, Tibetan—to say nothing of Western languages. Through the centuries, some of these languages have hosted more than one telling of the Rama story. Sanskrit alone contains some twenty-five or more tellings belonging to various narrative genres (epics, kavyas or ornate poetic compositions, puranas or old mythological stories, and so forth). If we add plays, dance-dramas, and other performances, in both the classical and folk traditions, the number of Ramayanas grows even larger. To these must be added sculpture and bas-reliefs, mask plays, puppet plays and shadow plays, in all the many South and Southeast Asian cultures.[2] Camille Bulcke, a student of the Ramayana , counted three hundred tellings.[3] It&#39;s no wonder that even as long ago as the fourteenth century, Kumaravyasa, a Kannada poet, chose to write a Mahabharata , because he heard the cosmic serpent which upholds the earth groaning under the burden of Ramayana poets ( tinikidanuphanirayaramayanadakavigalabharadali ). In this paper, indebted for its data to numerous previous translators and scholars, I would like to sort out for myself, and I hope for others, how these hundreds of tellings of a story in different cultures, languages, and religious traditions relate to each other: what gets translated, transplanted, transposed.
Valmiki and Kampan: Two Ahalyas
Obviously, these hundreds of tellings differ from one another. I have come to prefer the word tellings to the usual terms versions or variants because the latter terms can and typically do imply that there is an invariant, an original or
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Ur -text—usually Valmiki&#39;s Sanskrit Ramayana , the earliest and most prestigious of them all. But as we shall see, it is not always Valmiki&#39;s narrative that is carried from one language to another.
It would be useful to make some distinctions before we begin. The tradition itself distinguishes between the Rama story (ramakatha ) and texts composed by a specific person—Valmiki, Kampan, or Krttivasa, for example. Though many of the latter are popularly called Ramayanas (like Kamparamayanam ), few texts actually bear the title Ramayana ; they are given titles like Iramavataram (The Incarnation of Rama), Ramcaritmanas (The Lake of the Acts of Rama), Ramakien (The Story of Rama), and so on. Their relations to the Rama story as told by Valmiki also vary. This traditional distinction between katha (story) and kavya (poem) parallels the French one between sujet and recit , or the English one between story and discourse.[4] It is also analogous to the distinction between a sentence and a speech act. The story may be the same in two tellings, but the discourse may be vastly different. Even the structure and sequence of events may be the same, but the style, details, tone, and texture—and therefore the import—may be vastly different.
Here are two tellings of the &quot;same&quot; episode, which occur at the same point in the sequence of the narrative. The first is from the first book (Balakanda ) of Valmiki&#39;s Sanskrit Ramayana ; the second from the first canto (Palakantam ) of Kampan&#39;s Iramavataram in Tamil. Both narrate the story of Ahalya.
The Ahalya Episode: Valmiki
Seeing Mithila, Janaka&#39;s white
     and dazzling city, all the sages
cried out in praise, &quot;Wonderful!
     How wonderful!&quot;
Raghava, sighting on the outskirts
     of Mithila an ashram, ancient,
unpeopled, and lovely, asked the sage,
     &quot;What is this holy place,
so like an ashram but without a hermit?
     Master, I&#39;d like to hear: whose was it?&quot;
Hearing Raghava&#39;s words, the great sage
     Visvamitra, man of fire,
expert in words answered, &quot;Listen,
     Raghava, I&#39;ll tell you whose ashram
this was and how it was cursed
     by a great man in anger.
It was great Gautama&#39;s, this ashram
     that reminds you of heaven, worshiped even
by the gods. Long ago, with Ahalya
     he practiced tapas[5] here
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for countless years. Once, knowing that Gautama
     was away, Indra (called Thousand Eyes),
Saci&#39;s husband, took on the likeness
     of the sage, and said to Ahalya:
&#39;Men pursuing their desire do not wait
     for the proper season, O you who
have a perfect body. Making love
     with you: that&#39;s what I want.
That waist of yours is lovely.&#39;
She knew it was Indra of the Thousand Eyes
     in the guise of the sage. Yet she,
wrongheaded woman, made up her mind,
     excited, curious about the king
of the gods.
And then, her inner being satisfied,
     she said to the god, &#39;I&#39;m satisfied, king
of the gods. Go quickly from here.
     O giver of honor, lover, protect
yourself and me.&#39;
And Indra smiled and said to Ahalya,
     &#39;Woman of lovely hips, I am
very content. I&#39;ll go the way I came.&#39;
     Thus after making love, he came out
of the hut made of leaves.
And, O Rama, as he hurried away,
     nervous about Gautama and flustered,
he caught sight of Gautama coming in,
     the great sage, unassailable
by gods and antigods,
empowered by his tapas , still wet
     with the water of the river
he&#39;d bathed in, blazing like fire,
     with kusa grass and kindling
in his hands.
Seeing him, the king of the gods was
     terror-struck, his face drained of color.
The sage, facing Thousand Eyes now dressed
     as the sage, the one rich in virtue
and the other with none,
spoke to him in anger: &#39;You took my form,
     you fool, and did this that should never
be done. Therefore you will lose your testicles.&#39;
     At once, they fell to the ground, they fell
even as the great sage spoke
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his words in anger to Thousand Eyes.
     Having cursed Indra, he then cursed
Ahalya: &#39;You, you will dwell here
     many thousands of years, eating the air,
without food, rolling in ash,
and burning invisible to all creatures.
     When Rama, unassailable son
of Dasaratha, comes to this terrible
     wilderness, you will become pure,
you woman of no virtue,
you will be cleansed of lust and confusion.
     Filled then with joy, you&#39;ll wear again
your form in my presence.&#39; And saying
     this to that woman of bad conduct,
blazing Gautama abandoned
the ashram, and did his tapas
     on a beautiful Himalayan peak,
haunt of celestial singers and
     perfected beings.
Emasculated Indra then
     spoke to the gods led by Agni
attended by the sages
     and the celestial singers.
&#39;I&#39;ve only done this work on behalf
     of the gods, putting great Gautama
in a rage, blocking his tapas .
     He has emasculated me
and rejected her in anger.
     Through this great outburst
of curses, I&#39;ve robbed him
     of his tapas . Therefore,
great gods, sages, and celestial singers,
     help me, helper of the gods,
to regain my testicles.&#39; And the gods,
     led by Agni, listened to Indra
of the Hundred Sacrifices and went
     with the Marut hosts
to the divine ancestors, and said,
     &#39;Some time ago, Indra, infatuated,
ravished the sage&#39;s wife
     and was then emasculated
by the sage&#39;s curse. Indra,
     king of gods, destroyer of cities,
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is now angry with the gods.
     This ram has testicles
but great Indra has lost his.
     So take the ram&#39;s testicles
and quickly graft them on to Indra.
     A castrated ram will give you
supreme satisfaction and will be
     a source of pleasure.
People who offer it
     will have endless fruit.
You will give them your plenty.&#39;
     Having heard Agni&#39;s words,
the Ancestors got together
     and ripped off the ram&#39;s testicles
and applied them then to Indra
     of the Thousand Eyes.
Since then, the divine Ancestors
     eat these castrated rams
and Indra has the testicles
     of the beast through the power
of great Gautama&#39;s tapas .
Come then, Rama, to the ashram
     of the holy sage and save Ahalya
who has the beauty of a goddess.&quot;
     Raghava heard Visvamitra&#39;s words
and followed him into the ashram
     with Laksmana: there he saw
Ahalya, shining with an inner light
     earned through her penances,
blazing yet hidden from the eyes
     of passersby, even gods and antigods.[6]
The Ahalya Episode: Kampan
They came to many-towered Mithila
and stood outside the fortress.
On the towers were many flags.   
There, high on an open field,
stood a black rock
that was once Ahalya,   
the great sage&#39;s wife who fell
because she lost her chastity,
the mark of marriage in a house. 
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Rama&#39;s eyes fell on the rock,
the dust of his feet
wafted on it.   
Like one unconscious
coming to,
cutting through ignorance,   
changing his dark carcass
for true form
as he reaches the Lord&#39;s feet,   
so did she stand alive
formed and colored
again as she once was. 
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In 550, Rama asks Visvamitra why this lovely woman had been turned to stone. Visvamitra replies:
&quot;Listen. Once Indra,
Lord of the Diamond Axe,
waited on the absenceLord of the Diamond Axe,   
of Gautama, a sage all spirit,
meaning to reach out
for the lovely breast
of doe-eyed Ahalya, his wife. 

551
Hurt by love&#39;s arrows,
hurt by the look in her eyes
that pierced him like a spear, Indra
writhed and cast about
for stratagems;   
one day, overwhelmed
and mindless, he isolated
the sage; and sneaked
into the hermitage
wearing the exact body of Gautama   
whose heart knew no falsehoods. 552
Sneaking in, he joined Ahalya;
coupled, they drank deep
of the clear new wine
of first-night weddings;   
and she knew.   
   Yet unable   
to put aside what was not hers,
she dallied in her joy,
but the sage did not tarry,
he came back, a very Siva
with three eyes in his head. 


553
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Gautama, who used no arrows
from bows, could use more inescapable
powers of curse and blessing.   
When he arrived, Ahalya stood there,
stunned, bearing the shame of a deed
that will not end in this endless world.   
Indra shook in terror,
started to move away
in the likeness of a cat. 
554
Eyes dropping fire, Gautama
saw what was done,
and his words flew
like the burning arrows
at your hand:   
&#39;May you be covered
by the vaginas
of a thousand women!&#39;
In the twinkle of an eye
they came and covered him. 


555
Covered with shame,
laughingstock of the world,
Indra left.   
The sage turned
to his tender wife
and cursed:   
&#39;O bought woman!
May you turn to stone!&#39;
and she fell at once   
a rough thing
of black rock. 
556
Yet as she fell she begged:
&#39;To bear and forgive wrongs
is also the way of elders.
O Siva-like lord of mine,
set some limit to your curse!&#39;   
So he said: &#39;Rama
will come, wearing garlands that bring
the hum of bees with them.
When the dust of his feet falls on you,
you will be released from the body of stone.&#39; 


557
The immortals looked at their king
and came down at once to Gautama
in a delegation led by Brahma
and begged of Gautama to relent.   
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Gautama&#39;s mind had changed
and cooled. He changed
the marks on Indra to a thousand eyes
and the gods went back to their worlds,
while she lay there, a thing of stone. 


558
That was the way it was.
while she lay there, a thing of stone.
From now on, no more misery,
only release, for all things
in this world.   
   O cloud-dark lord   
who battled with that ogress,
black as soot, I saw there
the virtue of your hands
and here the virtue of your feet.&quot;[7]


559
Let me rapidly suggest a few differences between the two tellings. In Valmiki, Indra seduces a willing Ahalya. In Kampan, Ahalya realizes she is doing wrong but cannot let go of the forbidden joy; the poem has also suggested earlier that her sage-husband is all spirit, details which together add a certain psychological subtlety to the seduction. Indra tries to steal away in the shape of a cat, clearly a folklore motif (also found, for example, in the Kathasaritsagara , an eleventh-century Sanskrit compendium of folktales).[8] He is cursed with a thousand vaginas which are later changed into eyes, and Ahalya is changed into frigid stone. The poetic justice wreaked on both offenders is fitted to their wrongdoing. Indra bears the mark of what he lusted for, while Ahalya is rendered incapable of responding to anything. These motifs, not found in Valmiki, are attested in South Indian folklore and other southern Rama stories, in inscriptions and earlier Tamil poems, as well as in non-Tamil sources. Kampan, here and elsewhere, not only makes full use of his predecessor Valmiki&#39;s materials but folds in many regional folk traditions. It is often through him that they then become part of other Ramayanas .
In technique, Kampan is also more dramatic than Valmiki. Rama&#39;s feet transmute the black stone into Ahalya first; only afterward is her story told. The black stone standing on a high place, waiting for Rama, is itself a very effective, vivid symbol. Ahalya&#39;s revival, her waking from cold stone to fleshly human warmth, becomes an occasion for a moving bhakti (devotional) meditation on the soul waking to its form in god.
Finally, the Ahalya episode is related to previous episodes in the poem such as that in which Rama destroys the demoness Tataka. There he was the destroyer of evil, the bringer of sterility and the ashes of death to his enemies. Here, as the reviver of Ahalya, he is a cloud-dark god of fertility. Throughout
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Kampan&#39;s poem, Rama is a Tamil hero, a generous giver and a ruthless destroyer of foes. And the bhakti vision makes the release of Ahalya from her rock-bound sin a paradigm of Rama&#39;s incarnatory mission to release all souls from world-bound misery.
In Valmiki, Rama&#39;s character is that not of a god but of a god-man who has to live within the limits of a human form with all its vicissitudes. Some argue that the references to Rama&#39;s divinity and his incarnation for the purpose of destroying Ravana, and the first and last books of the epic, in which Rama is clearly described as a god with such a mission, are later additions.[9] Be that as it may, in Kampan he is clearly a god. Hence a passage like the above is dense with religious feeling and theological images. Kampan, writing in the twelfth century, composed his poem under the influence of Tamil bhakti . He had for his master Nammalvar (9th C.?), the most eminent of the Srivaisnava saints. So, for Kampan, Rama is a god who is on a mission to root out evil, sustain the good, and bring release to all living beings. The encounter with Ahalya is only the first in a series, ending with Rama&#39;s encounter with Ravana the demon himself. For Nammalvar, Rama is a savior of all beings, from the lowly grass to the great gods:
By Rama&#39;s Grace
Why would anyone want
     to learn anything but Rama?
Beginning with the low grass
     and the creeping ant
with nothing
     whatever,
he took everything in his city,
     everything moving,
     everything still,
he took everything,
     everything born
of the lord
     of four faces,
he took them all
     to the very best of states.
          Nammalvar 7.5.1[10]
Kampan&#39;s epic poem enacts in detail and with passion Nammalvar&#39;s vision of Rama.
Thus the Ahalya, episode is essentially the same, but the weave, the texture, the colors are very different. Part of the aesthetic pleasure in the later poet&#39;s telling derives from its artistic use of its predecessor&#39;s work, from ring-
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ing changes on it. To some extent all later Ramayanas play on the knowledge of previous tellings: they are meta-Ramayanas . I cannot resist repeating my favorite example. In several of the later Ramayanas (such as the AdhyatmaRamayana , 16th C.), when Rama is exiled, he does not want Sita to go with him into the forest. Sita argues with him. At first she uses the usual arguments: she is his wife, she should share his sufferings, exile herself in his exile, and so on. When he still resists the idea, she is furious. She bursts out, &quot;Countless Ramayanas have been composed before this. Do you know of one where Sita doesn&#39;t go with Rama to the forest?&quot; That clinches the argument, and she goes with him.[11] And as nothing in India occurs uniquely, even this motif appears in more than one Ramayana .
Now the Tamil Ramayana of Kampan generates its own offspring, its own special sphere of influence. Read in Telugu characters in Telugu country, played as drama in the Malayalam area as part of temple ritual, it is also an important link in the transmission of the Rama story to Southeast Asia. It has been convincingly shown that the eighteenth-century Thai Ramakien owes much to the Tamil epic. For instance, the names of many characters in the Thai work are not Sanskrit names, but clearly Tamil names (for example, Rsyasrnga in Sanskrit but Kalaikkotu in Tamil, the latter borrowed into Thai). Tulsi&#39;s Hindi Ramcaritmanas and the Malaysian Hikayat Seri Ram too owe many details to the Kampan poem.[12]
Thus obviously transplantations take place through several mutes. In some languages the word for tea is derived from a northern Chinese dialect and in others from a southern dialect; thus some languages, like English and French, have some form of the word tea , while others, like Hindi and Russian, have some form of the word cha(y) . Similarly, the Rama story seems to have traveled along three routes, according to Santosh Desai: &quot;By land, the northern route took the story from the Punjab and Kashmir into China, Tibet, and East Turkestan; by sea, the southern route carried the story from Gujarat and South India into Java, Sumatra, and Malaya; and again by land, the eastern route delivered the story from Bengal into Burma, Thailand, and Laos. Vietnam and Cambodia obtained their stories partly from Java and partly from India via the eastern route.&quot;[13]
Jaina Tellings
When we enter the world of Jains tellings, the Rama story no longer carries Hindu values. Indeed the Jaina texts express the feeling that the Hindus, especially the Brahmins, have maligned Ravana, made him into a villain. Here is a set of questions that a Jaina text begins by asking: &quot;How can monkeys vanquish the powerful raksasa warriors like Ravana? How can noble men and Jaina worthies like Ravana eat flesh and drink blood? How can Kumbhakarna sleep through six months of the year, and never wake up even
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though boiling oil was poured into his cars, elephants were made to trample over him, and war trumpets and conches blow around him? They also say that Ravana captured Indra and dragged him handcuffed into Lanka. Who can do that to Indra? All this looks a bit fantastic and extreme. They are lies and contrary to reason.&quot; With these questions in mind King Srenika goes to sage Gautama to have him tell the true story and clear his doubts. Gautama says to him, &quot;I&#39;ll tell you what Jaina wise men say. Ravana is not a demon, he is not a cannibal and a flesh eater. Wrong-thinking poetasters and fools tell these lies.&quot; He then begins to tell his own version of the story.[14] Obviously, the Jaina Ramayana of Vimalasuri, called Paumacariya (Prakrit for the Sanskrit Padmacarita ), knows its Valmiki and proceeds to correct its errors and Hindu extravagances. Like other Jains puranas , this too is a pratipurana , an anti- or counter-purana . The prefix prati , meaning &quot;anti-&quot; or &quot;counter-,&quot; is a favorite Jaina affix.
Vimalasuri the Jains opens the story not with Rama&#39;s genealogy and greatness, but with Ravana&#39;s. Ravana is one of the sixty-three leaders or salakapurusas of the Jaina tradition. He is noble, learned, earns all his magical powers and weapons through austerities (tapas ), and is a devotee of Jaina masters. To please one of them, he even takes a vow that he will not touch any unwilling woman. In one memorable incident, he lays siege to an impregnable fort. The queen of that kingdom is in love with him and sends him her messenger; he uses her knowledge of the fort to breach it and defeat the king. But, as soon as he conquers it, he returns the kingdom to the king and advises the queen to return to her husband. Later, he is shaken to his roots when he hears from soothsayers that he will meet his end through a woman, Sita. It is such a Ravana who falls in love with Sita&#39;s beauty, abducts her, tries to win her favors in vain, watches himself fall, and finally dies on the battlefield. In these tellings, he is a great man undone by a passion that he has vowed against but that he cannot resist. In another tradition of the Jaina Ramayanas , Sita is his daughter, although he does not know it: the dice of tragedy are loaded against him further by this oedipal situation. I shall say more about Sita&#39;s birth in the next section.
In fact, to our modern eyes, this Ravana is a tragic figure; we are moved to admiration and pity for Ravana when the Jainas tell the story. I should mention one more motif: according to the Jaina way of thinking, a pair of antagonists, Vasudeva and Prativasudeva—a hero and an antihero, almost like self and Other—are destined to fight in life after life. Laksmana and Ravana are the eighth incarnations of this pair. They are born in age after age, meet each other in battle after many vicissitudes, and in every encounter Vasudeva inevitably kills his counterpart, his prati . Ravana learns at the end that Laksmana is such a Vasudeva come to take his life. Still, overcoming his despair after a last unsuccessful attempt at peace, he faces his destined enemy in battle with his most powerful magic weapons. When finally he
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hurls his discus (cakra ), it doesn&#39;t work for him. Recognizing Laksmana as a Vasudeva, it does not behead him but gives itself over to his hand. Thus Laksmana slays Ravana with his own cherished weapon.
Here Rama does not even kill Ravana, as he does in the Hindu Ramayanas . For Rama is an evolved Jaina soul who has conquered his passions; this is his last birth, so he is loath to kill anything. It is left to Laksmana to kill enemies, and according to inexorable Jaina logic it is Laksmana who goes to hell while Rama finds release (kaivalya ).
One hardly need add that the Paumacariya is filled with references to Jaina places of pilgrimage, stories about Jaina monks, and Jaina homilies and legends. Furthermore, since the Jainas consider themselves rationalists—unlike the Hindus, who, according to them, are given to exorbitant and often bloodthirsty fancies and rituals—they systematically avoid episodes involving miraculous births (Rama and his brothers are born in the normal way), blood sacrifices, and the like. They even rationalize the conception of Ravana as the Ten-headed Demon. When he was born, his mother was given a necklace of nine gems, which she put around his neck. She saw his face reflected in them ninefold and so called him Dasamukha, or the Ten-faced One. The monkeys too are not monkeys but a clan of celestials (vidyadharas ) actually related to Ravana and his family through their great grandfathers. They have monkeys as emblems on their flags: hence the name Vanaras or &quot;monkeys.&quot;
From Written to Oral
Let&#39;s look at one of the South Indian folk Ramayanas . In these, the story usually occurs in bits and pieces. For instance, in Kannada, we are given separate narrative poems on Sita&#39;s birth, her wedding, her chastity test, her exile, the birth of Lava and Kusa, their war with their father Rama, and so on. But we do have one complete telling of the Rama story by traditional bards (tamburidasayyas ), sung with a refrain repeated every two lines by a chorus. For the following discussion, I am indebted to the transcription by Rame Gowda, P. K. Rajasekara, and S. Basavaiah.[15]
This folk narrative, sung by an Untouchable bard, opens with Ravana (here called Ravula) and his queen Mandodari. They are unhappy and childless. So Ravana or Ravula goes to the forest, performs all sorts of self-mortifications like rolling on the ground till blood runs from his back, and meets a jogi , or holy mendicant, who is none other than Siva. Siva gives him a magic mango and asks him how he would share it with his wife. Ravula says, &quot;Of course, I&#39;ll give her the sweet flesh of the fruit and I&#39;ll lick the mango seed.&quot; The jogi is skeptical. He says to Ravula, &quot;You say one thing to me. You have poison in your belly. You&#39;re giving me butter to eat, but you mean something else. If you lie to me, you&#39;ll eat the fruit of your actions yourself.&quot;
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Ravula has one thing in his dreams and another in his waking world, says the poet. When he brings the mango home, with all sorts of flowers and incense for the ceremonial puja , Mandodari is very happy. After a ritual puja and prayers to Siva, Ravana is ready to share the mango. But he thinks, &quot;If I give her the fruit, I&#39;ll be hungry, she&#39;ll be full,&quot; and quickly gobbles up the flesh of the fruit, giving her only the seed to lick. When she throws it in the yard, it sprouts and grows into a tall mango tree. Meanwhile, Ravula himself becomes pregnant, his pregnancy advancing a month each day.
In one day, it was a month, O Siva.
In the second, it was the second month,
and cravings began for him, O Siva.
How shall I show my face to the world of men, O Siva.
On the third day, it was the third month,
How shall I show my face to the world, O Siva.
On the fourth day, it was the fourth month.
How can I bear this, O Siva.
Five days, and it was five months,
O lord, you&#39;ve given me trouble, O Siva.
I can&#39;t bear it, I can&#39;t bear it, O Siva.
How will I live, cries Ravula in misery.
Six days, and he is six months gone, O mother,
in seven days it was seven months.
O what shame, Ravula in his seventh month,
and soon came the eighth, O Siva.
Ravula was in his ninth full month.
When he was round and ready, she&#39;s born, the dear,
Sita is born through his nose.
When he sneezes, Sitamma is born,
And Ravula names her Sitamma.[16]
In Kannada, the word sita means &quot;he sneezed&quot;: he calls her Sita because she is born from a sneeze. Her name is thus given a Kannada folk etymology, as in the Sanskrit texts it has a Sanskrit one: there she is named Sita, because King Janaka finds her in a furrow (sita). Then Ravula goes to astrologers, who tell him he is being punished for not keeping his word to Siva and for eating the flesh of the fruit instead of giving it to his wife. They advise him to feed and dress the child, and leave her some place where she will be found and brought up by some couple. He puts her in a box and leaves her in Janaka&#39;s field.
It is only after this story of Sita&#39;s birth that the poet sings of the birth and adventures of Rama and Laksmana. Then comes a long section on Sita&#39;s marriage contest, where Ravula appears and is humiliated when he falls under the heavy bow he has to lift. Rama lifts it and marries Sita. After that she is abducted by Ravana. Rama lays siege to Lanka with his monkey allies,
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and (in a brief section) recovers Sita and is crowned king. The poet then returns to the theme of Sita&#39;s trials. She is slandered and exiled, but gives birth to twins who grow up to be warriors. They tie up Rama&#39;s sacrificial horse, defeat the armies sent to guard the horse, and finally unite their parents, this time for good.
One sees here not only a different texture and emphasis: the teller is everywhere eager to return to Sita—her life, her birth, her adoption, her wedding, her abduction and recovery. Whole sections, equal in length to those on Rama and Laksmana&#39;s birth, exile, and war against Ravana, are devoted to her banishment, pregnancy, and reunion with her husband. Furthermore, her abnormal birth as the daughter born directly to the male Ravana brings to the story a new range of suggestions: the male envy of womb and childbirth, which is a frequent theme in Indian literature, and an Indian oedipal theme of fathers pursuing daughters and, in this case, a daughter causing the death of her incestuous father.[17] The motif of Sita as Ravana&#39;s daughter is not unknown elsewhere. It occurs in one tradition of the Jaina stories (for example, in the Vasudevahimdi ) and in folk traditions of Kannada and Telugu, as well as in several Southeast Asian Ramayanas . In some, Ravana in his lusty youth molests a young woman, who vows vengeance and is reborn as his daughter to destroy him. Thus the oral traditions seem to partake of yet another set of themes unknown in Valmiki.
A Southeast Asian Example
When we go outside India to Southeast Asia, we meet with a variety of tellings of the Rama story in Tibet, Thailand, Burma, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, Java, and Indonesia. Here we shall look at only one example, the Thai Ramakirti . According to Santosh Desai, nothing else of Hindu origin has affected the tone of Thai life more than the Rama story.[18] The bas-reliefs and paintings on the walls of their Buddhist temples, the plays enacted in town and village, their ballets—all of them rework the Rama story. In succession several kings with the name &quot;King Rama&quot; wrote Ramayana episodes in Thai: King Rama I composed a telling of the Ramayana in fifty thousand verses, Rama II composed new episodes for dance, and Rama VI added another set of episodes, most taken from Valmiki. Places in Thailand, such as Lopburi (Skt. Lavapuri), Khidkin (Skt. Kiskindha), and Ayuthia (Skt. Ayodhya) with its ruins of Khmer and Thai art, are associated with Rama legends.
The Thai Ramakirti (Rama&#39;s glory) or Ramakien (Rama&#39;s story) opens with an account of the origins of the three kinds of characters in the story, the human, the demonic, and the simian. The second part describes the brothers&#39; first encounters with the demons, Rama&#39;s marriage and banishment, the abduction of Sita, and Rama&#39;s meeting with the monkey clan. It also describes the preparations for the war, Hanuman&#39;s visit to Lanka and
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his burning of it, the building of the bridge, the siege of Lanka, the fall of Ravana, and Rama&#39;s reunion with Sita. The third part describes an insurrection in Lanka, which Rama deputes his two youngest brothers to quell. This part also describes the banishment of Sita, tile birth of her sons, their war with Rama, Sita&#39;s descent into the earth, and the appearance of the gods to reunite Rama and Sita. Though many incidents look the same as they do in Valmiki, many things look different as well. For instance, as in the South Indian folk Ramayanas (as also in some Jaina, Bengali, and Kashmiri ones), the banishment of Sita is given a dramatic new rationale. The daughter of Surpanakha (the demoness whom Rama and Laksmana had mutilated years earlier in the forest) is waiting in the wings to take revenge on Sita, whom she views as finally responsible for her mother&#39;s disfigurement. She comes to Ayodhya, enters Sita&#39;s service as a maid, and induces her to draw a picture of Ravana. The drawing is rendered indelible (in some tellings, it comes to life in her bedroom) and forces itself on Rama&#39;s attention. In a jealous rage, he orders Sita killed. The compassionate Laksmana leaves her alive in the forest, though, and brings back the heart of a deer as witness to the execution.
The reunion between Rama and Sita is also different. When Rama finds out she is still alive, he recalls Sita to his palace by sending her word that he is dead. She rushes to see him but flies into a rage when she finds she has been tricked. So, in a fit of helpless anger, she calls upon Mother Earth to take her. Hanuman is sent to subterranean regions to bring her back, but she refuses to return. It takes the power of Siva to reunite them.
Again as in the Jaina instances and the South Indian folk poems, the account of Sita&#39;s birth is different from that given in Va1miki. When Dasaratha performs his sacrifice, he receives a rice ball, not the rice porridge (payasa ) mentioned in Valmiki. A crow steals some of the rice and takes it to Ravana&#39;s wife, who eats it and gives birth to Sita. A prophecy that his daughter will cause his death makes Ravana throw Sita into the sea, where the sea goddess protects her and takes her to Janaka.
Furthermore, though Rama is an incarnation of Visnu, in Thailand he is subordinate to Siva. By and large he is seen as a human hero, and the Ramakirti is not regarded as a religious work or even as an exemplary work on which men and women may pattern themselves. The Thais enjoy most the sections about the abduction of Sita and the war. Partings and reunions, which are the heart of the Hindu Ramayanas , are not as important as the excitement and the details of war, the techniques, the fabulous weapons. The Yuddhakanda or the War Book is more elaborate than in any other telling, whereas it is of minor importance in the Kannada folk telling. Desai says this Thai emphasis on war is significant: early Thai history is full of wars; their concern was survival. The focus in the Ramakien is not on family values and spirituality. Thai audiences are more fond of Hanuman than of Rama.
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Neither celibate nor devout, as in the Hindu Ramayanas , here Hanuman is quite a ladies&#39; man, who doesn&#39;t at all mind looking into the bedrooms of Lanka and doesn&#39;t consider seeing another man&#39;s sleeping wife anything immoral, as Valmiki&#39;s or Kampan&#39;s Hanuman does.
Ravana too is different here. The Ramakirti admires Ravana&#39;s resourcefulness and learning; his abduction of Sita is seen as an act of love and is viewed with sympathy. The Thais are moved by Ravana&#39;s sacrifice of family, kingdom, and life itself for the sake of a woman. His dying words later provide the theme of a famous love poem of the nineteenth century, an inscription of a Wat of Bangkok.[19] Unlike Valmiki&#39;s characters, the Thai ones are a fallible, human mixture of good and evil. The fall of Ravana here makes one sad. It is not an occasion for unambiguous rejoicing, as it is in Valmiki.
Patterns of Difference
Thus, not only do we have one story told by Valmiki in Sanskrit, we have a variety of Rama tales told by others, with radical differences among them. Let me outline a few of the differences we have not yet encountered. For instance, in Sanskrit and in the other Indian languages, there are two endings to the story. One ends with the return of Rama and Sita to Ayodhya, their capital, to be crowned king and queen of the ideal kingdom. In another ending, often considered a later addition in Valmiki and in Kampan, Rama hears Sita slandered as a woman who lived in Ravana&#39;s grove, and in the name of his reputation as a king (we would call it credibility, I suppose) he banishes her to the forest, where she gives birth to twins. They grow up in Valmiki&#39;s hermitage, learn the Ramayana as well as the arts of war from him, win a war over Rama&#39;s army, and in a poignant scene sing the Ramayana to their own father when he doesn&#39;t quite know who they are. Each of these two endings gives the whole work a different cast. The first one celebrates the return of the royal exiles and rounds out the tale with reunion, coronation, and peace. In the second one, their happiness is brief, and they arc separated again, making separation of loved ones (vipralambha ) the central mood of the whole work. It can even be called tragic, for Sita finally cannot bear it any more and enters a fissure in the earth, the mother from whom she had originally come—as we saw earlier, her name means &quot;furrow,&quot; which is where she was originally found by Janaka. It also enacts, in the rise of Sita from the furrow and her return to the earth, a shadow of a Proserpine-like myth, a vegetation cycle: Sita is like the seed and Rama with his cloud-dark body the rain; Ravana in the South is the Pluto-like abductor into dark regions (the south is the abode of death); Sita reappears in purity and glory for a brief period before she returns again to the earth. Such a myth, while it should not be blatantly pressed into some rigid allegory, resonates in the shadows of the tale in many details. Note the many references to fertility and rain, Rama&#39;s
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opposition to Siva-like ascetic figures (made explicit by Kampan in tile Ahalya story), his ancestor bringing the rivet Ganges into the plains of the kingdom to water and revive the ashes of the dead. Relevant also is the story of .Rsyasrnga, the sexually naive ascetic who is seduced by the beauty of a woman and thereby brings rain to Lomapada&#39;s kingdom, and who later officiates at the ritual which fills Dasaratha&#39;s queens&#39; wombs with children. Such a mythic groundswell also makes us hear other tones in the continual references to nature, the potent presence of birds and animals as the devoted friends of Rama in his search for his Sita. Birds and monkeys are a real presence and a poetic necessity in the Valmiki Ramayana , as much as they are excrescences in the Jaina view. With each ending, different effects of the story are highlighted, and the whole telling alters its poetic stance.
One could say similar things about the different beginnings. Valmiki opens with a frame story about Valmiki himself. He sees a hunter aim an arrow and kill one of a happy pair of lovebirds. The female circles its dead mate and cries over it. The scene so moves the poet and sage Valmiki that he curses the hunter. A moment later, he realizes that his curse has taken the form of a line of verse—in a famous play on words, the rhythm of his grief (soka ) has given rise to a metrical form (sloka ). He decides to write the whole epic of Rama&#39;s adventures in that meter. This incident becomes, in later poetics, the parable of all poetic utterance: out of the stress of natural feeling (bhava ), an artistic form has to be found or fashioned, a form which will generalize and capture the essence (rasa ) of that feeling. This incident at the beginning of Valmiki gives the work an aesthetic self-awareness. One may go further: the incident of the death of a bird and the separation of loved ones becomes a leitmotif for this telling of the Rama story. One notes a certain rhythmic recurrence of an animal killed at many of the critical moments: when Dasaratha shoots an arrow to kill what he thinks is an elephant but instead kills a young ascetic filling his pitcher with water (making noises like an elephant drinking at a water hole), he earns a curse that later leads to the exile of Rama and the separation of father and son. When Rama pursues a magical golden deer (really a demon in disguise) and kills it, with its last breath it calls out to Laksmana in Rama&#39;s voice, which in turn leads to his leaving Sita unprotected; this allows Ravana to abduct Sita. Even as Ravana carries her off, he is opposed by an ancient bird which he slays with his sword. Furthermore, the death of the bird, in the opening section, and the cry of the surviving mate set the tone for the many separations throughout the work, of brother and brother, mothers and fathers and sons, wives and husbands.
Thus the opening sections of each major work set into motion the harmonics of the whole poem, presaging themes and a pattern of images. Kampan&#39;s Tamil text begins very differently. One can convey it best by citing a few stanzas.
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The River
The cloud, wearing white
on white like Siva,
making beautiful the sky
on his way from the sea   
grew dark   
as the face of the Lord
who wears with pride
on his right the Goddess
of the scented breasts. 

2
Mistaking the Himalayan dawn
for a range of gold,
the clouds let down chains
and chains of gleaming rain.   
They pour like a generous giver
giving all he has,
remembering and reckoning
all he has. 

15
It floods, it runs over
its continents like the fame
of a great king, upright,
infallible, reigning by the Laws
under cool royal umbrellas. 


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Concubines caressing
their lovers&#39; hair, their lovers&#39;
bodies, their lovers&#39; limbs,   
take away whole hills
of wealth yet keep little
in their spendthrift hands   
as they move on: so too
the waters flow from the peaks
to the valleys,   
beginning high and reaching low. 17
The flood carrying all before it
like merchants, caravans
loaded with gold, pearls,
peacock feathers and rows
of white tusk and fragrant woods. 


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Bending to a curve, the river,
surface colored by petals,
gold yellow pollen, honey,
the ochre flow of elephant lust,
looked much like a rainbow. 


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Ravaging hillsides, uprooting trees,
covered with fallen leaves all over,
the waters came,   
like a monkey clan
facing restless seas
looking for a bridge. 
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Thick-faced proud elephants
ranged with foaming cavalier horses
filling the air with the noise of war,   
raising banners,
the flood rushes
as for a battle with the sea. 
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Stream of numberless kings
in the line of the Sun,
continuous in virtue:   
the river branches into deltas,
mother&#39;s milk to all lives
on the salt sea-surrounded land. 
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Scattering a robber camp on the hills
with a rain of arrows,   
the sacred women beating their bellies
and gathering bow and arrow as they run,   
the waters assault villages
like the armies of a king. 
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Stealing milk and buttermilk,
guzzling on warm ghee and butter
straight from the pots on the ropes,   
leaning the marutam tree on the kuruntam
carrying away the clothes and bracelets
of goatherd girls at water games,   
like Krsna dancing
on the spotted snake,
the waters are naughty. 
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Turning forest into slope,
field into wilderness,
seashore into fertile land,   
changing boundaries,
exchanging landscapes,
the reckless waters   
roared on like the pasts
that hurry close on the heels
of lives. 
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Born of Himalayan stone
and mingling with the seas,
it spreads, ceaselessly various,   
one and many at once,   
like that Original
even the measureless Vedas
cannot measure with words. 
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Through pollen-dripping groves,
clumps of champak,
lotus pools,   
water places with new sands,
flowering fields cross-fenced
with creepers,   
like a life filling
and emptying
a variety of bodies,   
the river flows on.[20]
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This passage is unique to Kampan; it is not found in Valmiki. It describes the waters as they are gathered by clouds from the seas and come down in rain and flow as floods of the Sarayu river down to Ayodhya, the capital of Rama&#39;s kingdom. Through it, Kampan introduces all his themes and emphases, even his characters, his concern with fertility themes (implicit in Valmiki), the whole dynasty of Rama&#39;s ancestors, and his vision of bhakti through the Ramayana .
Note the variety of themes introduced through the similes and allusions, each aspect of the water symbolizing an aspect of the Ramayana story itself and representing a portion of the Ramayana universe (for example, monkeys), picking up as it goes along characteristic Tamil traditions not to be found anywhere else, like the five landscapes of classical Tamil poetry. The emphasis on water itself, the source of life and fertility, is also an explicit part of the Tamil literary tradition. The Kural —the so-called Bible of the Tamils, a didactic work on the ends and means of the good life—opens with a passage on God and follows it up immediately with a great ode in celebration of the rains (Tirukkural 2).
Another point of difference among Ramayanas is the intensity of focus on a major character. Valmiki focuses on Rama and his history in his opening sections; Vimalasuri&#39;s Jaina Ramayana and the Thai epic focus not on Rama but on the genealogy and adventures of Ravana; the Kannada village telling focuses on Sita, her birth, her wedding, her trials. Some later extensions like the Adbhuta Ramayana and the Tamil story of Satakanthavana even give Sita a heroic character: when the ten-headed Ravana is killed, another appears with a hundred heads; Rama cannot handle this new menace, so it is Sita
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who goes to war and slays the new demon.[21] The Santals, a tribe known for their extensive oral traditions, even conceive of Sita as unfaithful—to the shock and horror of any Hindu bred on Valmiki or Kampan, she is seduced both by Ravana and by Laksmana. In Southeast Asian texts, as we saw earlier, Hanuman is not the celibate devotee with a monkey face but a ladies&#39; man who figures in many love episodes. In Kampan and Tulsi, Rama is a god; in the Jaina texts, he is only an evolved Jaina man who is in his last birth and so does not even kill Ravana. In the latter, Ravana is a noble hero fated by his karma to fall for Sita and bring death upon himself, while he is in other texts an overweening demon. Thus in the conception of every major character there are radical differences, so different indeed that one conception is quite abhorrent to those who hold another. We may add to these many more: elaborations on the reason why Sita is banished, the miraculous creation of Sita&#39;s second son, and the final reunion of Rama and Sita. Every one of these occurs in more than one text, in more than one textual community (Hindu, Jaina, or Buddhist), in more than one region.
Now, is there a common core to the Rama stories, except the most skeletal set of relations like that of Rama, his brother, his wife, and the antagonist Ravana who abducts her? Are the stories bound together only by certain family resemblances, as Wittgenstein might say ? Or is it like Aristotle&#39;s jack knife? When the philosopher asked an old carpenter how long he had had his knife, the latter said, &quot;Oh, I&#39;ve had it for thirty years. I&#39;ve changed the blade a few times and the handle a few times, but it&#39;s the same knife.&quot; Some shadow of a relational structure claims the name of Ramayana for all these tellings, but on closer look one is not necessarily all that like another. Like a collection of people with the same proper name, they make a class in name alone.
Thoughts on Translation
That may be too extreme a way of putting it. Let me back up and say it differently, in a way that covers more adequately the differences between the texts and their relations to each other, for they are related. One might think of them as a series of translations clustering around one or another in a family of texts: a number of them cluster around Valmiki, another set around the Jaina Vimalasuri, and so on.
Or these translation-relations between texts could be thought of in Peircean terms, at least in three ways.
Where Text I and Text 2 have a geometrical resemblance to each other, as one triangle to another (whatever the angles, sizes, or colors of the lines), we call such a relation iconic .[22] In the West, we generally expect translations to be &quot;faithful,&quot; i.e. iconic. Thus, when Chapman translates Homer, he not only preserves basic textual features such as characters, imagery, and order of incidents , but tries to reproduce a hexameter and retain the same number
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of lines as in the original Greek—only the language is English and the idiom Elizabethan. When Kampan retells Valmiki&#39;s Ramayana in Tamil, he is largely faithful in keeping to the order and sequence of episodes, the structural relations between the characters of father, son, brothers, wives, friends, and enemies. But the iconicity is limited to such structural relations. His work is much longer than Valmiki&#39;s, for example, and it is composed in more than twenty different kinds of Tamil meters, while Valmiki&#39;s is mostly in the sloka meter.
Very often, although Text 2 stands in an iconic relationship to Text ! in terms of basic elements such as plot, it is filled with local detail, folklore, poetic traditions, imagery, and so forth—as in Kampan&#39;s telling or that of the Bengali Krttivasa. In the Bengali Ramayana , Rama&#39;s wedding is very much a Bengali wedding, with Bengali customs and Bengali cuisine.[23] We may call such a text indexical : the text is embedded in a locale, a context, refers to it, even signifies it, and would not make much sense without it. Here, one may say, the Ramayana is not merely a set of individual texts, but a genre with a variety of instances.
Now and then, as we have seen, Text 2 uses the plot and characters and names of Text 1 minimally and uses them to say entirely new things, often in an effort to subvert the predecessor by producing a countertext. We may call such a translation symbolic . The word translation itself here acquires a somewhat mathematical sense, of mapping a structure of relations onto another plane or another symbolic system. When this happens, the Rama story has become almost a second language of the whole culture area, a shared core of names, characters, incidents, and motifs, with a narrative language in which Text 1 can say one thing and Text 2 something else, even the exact opposite. Valmiki&#39;s Hindu and Vimalasuri&#39;s Jaina texts in India—or the Thai Ramakirti in Southeast Asia—are such symbolic translations of each other.
One must not forget that to some extent all translations, even the so-called faithful iconic ones, inevitably have all three kinds of elements. When Goldman and his group of scholars produce a modern translation of Valmiki&#39;s Ramayana , they are iconic in the transliteration of Sanskrit names, the number and sequence of verses, the order of the episodes, and so forth.[24] But they are also indexical, in that the translation is in English idiom and comes equipped with introductions and explanatory footnotes, which inevitably contain twentieth-century attitudes and misprisions; and symbolic, in that they cannot avoid conveying through this translation modern understandings proper to their reading of the text. But the proportions between the three kinds of relations differ vastly between Kampan and Goldman. And we accordingly read them for different reasons and with different aesthetic expectations. We read the scholarly modern English translation largely to gain a sense of the original Valmiki, and we consider it successful to the extent that it resembles the original. We read Kampan to read Kampan, and we judge him on his own terms—not by his resemblance to Valmiki but, if any-
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thing, by the extent that he differs from Valmiki. In the one, we rejoice in the similarity; in the other, we cherish and savor the differences.
One may go further and say that the cultural area in which Ramayanas are endemic has a pool of signifiers (like a gene pool), signifiers that include plots, characters, names, geography, incidents, and relationships. Oral, written, and performance traditions, phrases, proverbs, and even sneers carry allusions to the Rama story. When someone is carrying on, you say, &quot;What&#39;s this Ramayana now? Enough.&quot; In Tamil, a narrow room is called a kiskindha ; a proverb about a dim-witted person says, &quot;After hearing the Ramayana all night, he asks how Rama is related to Sita&quot;; in a Bengali arithmetic textbook, children are asked to figure the dimensions of what is left of a wall that Hanuman built, after he has broken down part of it in mischief. And to these must be added marriage songs, narrative poems, place legends, temple myths, paintings, sculpture, and the many performing arts.
These various texts not only relate to prior texts directly, to borrow or refute, but they relate to each other through this common code or common pool. Every author, if one may hazard a metaphor, dips into it and brings out a unique crystallization, a new text with a unique texture and a fresh context. The great texts rework the small ones, for &quot;lions are made of sheep,&quot; as Valery said. And sheep are made of lions, too: a folk legend says that Hanuman wrote the original Ramayana on a mountaintop, after the great war, and scattered the manuscript; it was many times larger than what we have now. Valmiki is said to have captured only a fragment of it.[25] In this sense, no text is original, yet no telling is a mere retelling—and the story has no closure, although it may be enclosed in a text. In India and in Southeast Asia, no one ever reads the Ramayana or the Mahabharata for the first time. The stories are there, &quot;always already.&quot;
What Happens When You Listen
This essay opened with a folktale about the many Ramayanas . Before we close, it may be appropriate to tell another tale about Hanuman and Rama&#39;s ring.[26] But this story is about the power of the Ramayana , about what happens when you really listen to this potent story. Even a fool cannot resist it; he is entranced and caught up in the action. The listener can no longer bear to be a bystander but feels compelled to enter the world of the epic: the line between fiction and reality is erased.
A villager who had no sense of culture and no interest in it was married to a woman who was very cultured. She tried various ways to cultivate his taste for the higher things in life but he just wasn&#39;t interested.
One day a great reciter of that grand epic the Ramayana came to the village. Every evening he would sing, recite, and explain the verses of the epic. The whole village went to this one-man performance as if it were a rare feast.
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The woman who was married to the uncultured dolt tried to interest him in the performance. She nagged him and nagged him, trying to force him to go and listen. This time, he grumbled as usual but decided to humor her. So he went in the evening and sat at the back. It was an all-night performance, and he just couldn&#39;t keep awake. He slept through the night. Early in the morning, when a canto had ended and the reciter sang the closing verses for the day, sweets were distributed according to custom. Someone put some sweets into the mouth of the sleeping man. He woke up soon after and went home. His wife was delighted that her husband had stayed through the night and asked him eagerly how he enjoyed the Ramayana . He said, &quot;It was very sweet.&quot; The wife was happy to hear it.
The next day too his wife insisted on his listening to the epic. So he went to the enclosure where the reciter was performing, sat against a wall, and before long fell fast asleep. The place was crowded and a young boy sat on his shoulder, made himself comfortable, and listened open-mouthed to the fascinating story. In the morning, when the night&#39;s portion of the story came to an end, everyone got up and so did the husband. The boy had left earlier, but the man felt aches and pains from the weight he had borne all night. When he went home and his wife asked him eagerly how it was, he said, &quot;It got heavier and heavier by morning.&quot; The wife said, &quot;That&#39;s the way the story is.&quot; She was happy that her husband was at last beginning to feel the emotions and the greatness of the epic.
On the third day, he sat at the edge of the crowd and was so sleepy that he lay down on the floor and even snored. Early in the morning, a dog came that way and pissed into his mouth a little before he woke up and went home. When his wife asked him how it was, he moved his mouth this way and that, made a face and said, &quot;Terrible. It was so salty.&quot; His wife knew something was wrong. She asked him what exactly was happening and didn&#39;t let up till he finally told her how he had been sleeping through the performance every night.
On the fourth day, his wife went with him, sat him down in the very first row, and told him sternly that he should keep awake no matter what might happen. So he sat dutifully in the front row and began to listen. Very soon, he was caught up in the adventures and the characters of the great epic story. On that day, the reciter was enchanting the audience with a description of how Hanuman the monkey had to leap across the ocean to take Rama&#39;s signet ring to Sita. When Hanuman was leaping across the ocean, the signet ring slipped from his hand and fell into the ocean. Hanuman didn&#39;t know what to do. He had to get the ring back quickly and take it to Sita in the demon&#39;s kingdom. While he was wringing his hands, the husband who was listening with rapt attention in the first row said, &quot;Hanuman, don&#39;t worry. I&#39;ll get it for you.&quot; Then he jumped up and dived into the ocean, found the ring in the ocean floor, brought it back, and gave it to Hanuman.
Everyone was astonished. They thought this man was someone special,
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really blessed by Rama and Hanuman. Ever since, he has been respected in the village as a wise elder, and he has also behaved like one. That&#39;s what happens when you really listen to a story, especially to the Ramayana .</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/4219287755820977411/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/11/two-three-hundred-ramayanas-five.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/4219287755820977411'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/4219287755820977411'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/11/two-three-hundred-ramayanas-five.html' title='Two Three Hundred Ramayanas: Five Examples and Three Thoughts on Translation'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-8831474345566805555</id><published>2011-09-14T06:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-14T06:26:49.769-07:00</updated><title type='text'>My Introduction to Fundamentalism</title><content type='html'>To tell you about my introduction to Fundamentalism, I will have to start the story right from the days of my schooling. I was born and brought up in a very protected environment; it was high on intellectual/academic inputs but almost completely lacked real time exposure to life. I knew only two campuses, NIRD (National Institute of Rural Development) where I stayed and NPA (National Police Academy) where my school was. By protected environment I mean, I had no opportunities to make day to day operational decisions. My life was highly structured, wake up at six, in the toilet for half an hour completing my sleep, opening books for half an hour, getting ready for school, catching the school bus at 8.15, coming back at 3.30, again opening the book for about an hour, playing in the campus from 5 to 7, again opening the book from 7 to 9, then watching TV till 10 and then finally going to sleep. This was my daily schedule which changed only on holidays and festivals. &lt;br /&gt;
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By intellectual inputs, I mean, I believed beyond doubt in facts like India is the greatest country in the world, India is an example of unity in diversity, Indian freedom fighters were the greatest people ever born on earth, we should respect elders, all religions should be respected, cigarettes and liquor are a curse to the society etc. Lack of practical exposure can be ascertained by the fact that, I was bhaya to all girls younger to me and all girls elder to me were didi’s (no scope left for morality!!), Rakshabandhan was among the most awaited festivals, the number of Rakhis on a boy’s hand was a measure of his local standing, and finally, I believed that affairs between boys and girls could happen only in movies! These thoughts and perceptions were deeply ingrained in me, this can be figured out by the fact that carnal feelings towards a female always had a fair amount of guilt attached to it, traces of it still carry on!&lt;br /&gt;
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Although, I started experiencing life firsthand from class eleven. The first shock of my life came to me when my father was transferred to NIRD’s regional centre at Guwahati, Assam, as its director.I moved to Guwahati when I got into class twelve. The Director’s Bungalow, in the campus, was not ready. Thus, we had to take a house on rent in the city. New place meant new set of friends, both at home and school, new thoughts, new practises and new topics of discussion. One important topic of discussion which gave me my first shock was “the indifferent attitude of India towards the North Eastern states” (I do not know if this still remains as the favourite topic as things have changed a lot in the past 15 years there). I actually could not understand the difference between “India” and “Northeast”. It was little later that I could figure out that India meant “New Delhi”. Most people might not be able to relate to my confusion, but, believe me it was confusing. My belief of India had shaken. Now, it meant, “Hyderabad and India were different”, this was not acceptable to me. I started taking these discussions personally, I started defending India because I believed India could never be wrong. This was my first expression of Fundamentalism. I call it fundamentalism because I defended India because of my feelings and beliefs, not by rationality or logic. I made my logic on the basis of my feelings and beliefs; one can call it as conditioning also. Above all, it was a fundamentalist approach because I felt that I was right and “they were wrong”.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was the time when my de-conditioning started. I, while introspecting, had started questioning my beliefs. I started searching for India. Some of my personality traits like an inquisitive and rebellious mind, docile nature and ability to survive in an unsettled physical and mental state have been very helpful in my quest. These traits also act like double edged swords, thus, if I have gained a lot out of it, I have also lost a lot. Anyways, all this is a part and parcel of life! Also, I will limit my discussion on my quest for India here as this piece of writing is also a part of the same. One realization I made during my stay in the Northeast is about the importance of politics and economics in a person’s life. Although, I still did not know (at that time) how these two things are important! Fortunately or Unfortunately, I somehow qualified for engineering immediately after my twelfth class. My only option was REC Srinagar as I was not a domicile of the state and was not eligible for admission in Assam Government Colleges and my score in the entrance test did not qualify me for a seat in any other REC. I believe, this was destined to happen as this was the place that I was about to get the second major shock of my life.&lt;br /&gt;
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The two questions which I had to answer within a few days of coming to Kashmir and were no less that a shock to me were: - “Tum Hindustan se aye ho?”(Meaning, have you come from India?) and “What is your religion?”. Although, my being a Hindu and being from a different state did not in any way affect my relationship with the locals. But still, my confusion prevailed. As far as I remember, I up till an age of 13 or 14 did not know that I am a Brahmin. Another thing that I was fed with during the 1992 riots is that, it was not Hindus and Muslims fighting, these were all hired criminals. There was no difference between Hindus and Muslims. I still do not know if this is the right way of upbringing secular children in secular India! In the context of the questions relating to Hindustan and religion, I later observed that religion had a lot of involvement in the daily life of a Kashmiri. This never existed in my life; I did not know the importance of religion in my life. The only thing I knew was that Eid was a Muslim festival and seriously felt sad for Muslims because they did not have exciting festivals like Holi and Diwali. Because of this involvement of religion in daily life, I got introduced to Islam. It was great and exciting, the people talking about Islam were not necessarily the Mullahs, there were many clean shaven, jeans wearing, and convent educated boys giving logical views on practises in Islam and their validity in daily life. I was impressed and in my own words “I would have converted to Islam, had those people convinced me of their view on mandatory hijab by women and had they not, of course unknowingly, hurt my pride as a Hindu”(Of course, courage would have also been required). I had started comparing Hinduism with Islam. I did not know about any logic supporting daily life practises in Hinduism. On the contrary, I had only heard of bad practises like casteism, sati pratha, etc in Hinduism. To be precise, I had started developing an inferiority complex. I felt, I belonged to a non contemporary religion which had outdated practises. I had no answers for these questions and was also unable to find a source to get the answers. My major handicap that continues to be one is that I am not a voracious reader and there was no source other than books, especially in those days when internet had just reached India, which could have solved my problem. But, I was destined to get my answers from a different channel. Differences cropped up between students from other regions and the students from Kashmir, tension escalated and later the students from other regions decided that it was not safe for them to continue their studies in Kashmir. They decided to approach the Government of India and ask the government to move us all out of Kashmir. The government, after months of following up and protest, finally agreed. I was moved from REC Srinagar to REC Bhopal. In the process of following up with the government, I got in touch with RSS (Rastriya Swayamsewak Sangh). RSS sympathised with us during our migration process and helped us on many accounts. Also, interaction with some top leaders like LK Advani, who were also former RSS pracharaks, created a soft corner for RSS in my heart. This was the start of my association with Hindu fundamentalism.&lt;br /&gt;
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REC Bhopal was altogether quite different from REC Srinagar. Students were least bothered about the world and were interested in living their life to the extreme. As usual, I because of my habit of giving valuable advice free of cost on all issues irrespective of the issue’s relevance to me and irrespective of having being asked to give one entered the “Hall of Fame” of the college. In the mean time, I also had RSS pracharaks visiting me. This was because, I was among the few people who entertained them and showed keen interest in their “idea of India”. I was already confused with both India and Hinduism. These were the people who connected India with Hinduism. Their idea of “India is Hinduism” and “ Hinduism is India” excited me. This was for the first time I was hearing rational talk on India and Hinduism. My inferiority complex, of being a Hindu, attracted me towards these pracharaks and they quenched my thirst for logical Hinduism. Adding to my inclination was the fact that these pracharaks were highly qualified men with modern logic supporting traditional Hindu practises. One of them was a M.Tech from REC Bhopal itself. As my association with RSS increased, I was invited for a two day introduction camp in Bhopal itself. I attended it, this increased my attachment with the organisation. Again, I went on a two day visit to tribal villages in Madhya Pradesh. This further increased my respect for the organisation. I started conforming to the view that it is only because of the sangh that the country is surviving attempts by foreign forces to disintegrate it. My logic started growing stronger and stronger in support of the sangh. I started feeling that these were actually the answers I was looking for since a long time. But, my personality traits mentioned above helped me again. It was later, I realised that all that these people whom I met in Kashmir and Bhopal were talking about two truths. Like these two many other truths also existed in the world. Religion is a social, economic and political system which stands on very strong logic. But, believing that only my system is right and that of others is wrong, is a fundamentalist approach. Although, you will not find a single fundamentalist claiming openly that other systems are wrong, but, they so strongly impress upon the fact about their system being right that a person by general analogy infers that the other system is wrong! A person starts looking only at the threats associated with the other system and does not look at the liberals having faith in that system around him as his strength. Another weakness of these fundamentalists is that these people use time based and incident based logic. This can be noted by two common observations, a fundamentalist always says before he puts his point, “in those days” or “if you look at this incident”. Now, I reply to these arguments by saying; “gone are the days” and “look at other incidents”.&lt;br /&gt;
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I was lucky that I got out of the clutches of fundamentalists, but, everybody is not that lucky. Some end up losing their lives and consider it to be their passports to heaven, jannat, swarg etc. Mind you all these are different. Because, reaching here requires you to stick to different set of practices. As one of my college friend, Kesari Kumar, used to put forth to my Kashmiri seniors. “Sir, you will never go to swarg because you eat beef and I will never go to jannat because I do not offer namaz”, Strange Indeed! Even more dangerous than their misinformed death is that, these people inspire many others to follow their path. In the specific case of Kashmir, I would consider that inferiority complex has developed in a Kashmiri after being branded as a terrorist for more than two decades now! This multiplies in an idle condition where a person has nothing to do for self development. He receives no appreciation, here he finds the idea of giving life for the purpose of so called truth better than living. He might get appreciation for his sacrifice, but what is the use when he himself is not there to listen to it. Adding to the woes of a Kashmiri is the way in which the world conceives of Islam these days. This is the view that needs to change if the world wants to get rid of Islamic fundamentalism.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, although its not an apple to apple comparison, as I got solace in the company of RSS, a Kashmiri Muslim might get it in the company of Hisbul Mujahedeen. Its easy to move out of RSS. But, does a fundamentalist organization like Hisbul Mujahideen give you the option to move out? If the organization gives it, does the main stream government give another chance to the Kashmiri? I do not think its that easy to rehabilitate. So, Does a Kashmiri have a way out?&amp;nbsp; Isn,t life very rude to a Kashmiri!!</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/8831474345566805555/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/09/my-introduction-to-fundamentalism.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/8831474345566805555'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/8831474345566805555'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/09/my-introduction-to-fundamentalism.html' title='My Introduction to Fundamentalism'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-7777848345587236628</id><published>2011-07-13T05:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2013-05-13T09:07:33.264-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="democracy"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="nation"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="soldier"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="war"/><title type='text'>HERO</title><content type='html'>I would like to start this blog with two questions:-&lt;br /&gt;
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1) Can we name five freedom fighters who were not Congress Party members (with due respect to the congress party’s contribution to freedom struggle) and were also not involved in any kind of armed revolution?&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Can we name the soldiers honoured with the Param Vir Chakra in the kargil war?&lt;br /&gt;
I am sure that majority of our people will not be able to answer any of the two questions. But, does our lack of knowledge nullify the contribution of these people or does their life become less worthwhile if we do not remember them today? I personally do not think so, but still, I feel   that stories of such heroes should be repeatedly told so that we find some inspiration from their life and death.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to once again tell the story of a hero who was in the Indian Army and made a difference at a very young age and in a very short life span. &lt;br /&gt;
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Second Lieutenant Arun Khetarpal, PVC was born in Pune, Maharashtra, was an officer of the Indian Army and a posthumous recipient of the Param Vir Chakra. 2nd Lt Khetrapal fell in the Battle of Basantar or Battle of Barapind during the Bangladesh war where his actions earned him his honour.&lt;br /&gt;
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His final words over the radio to a superior officer who had ordered him to abandon his burning tank were, &quot;No Sir, I will not abandon my tank. My gun is still working and I will get these bastards.&quot; Then he set about destroying the remaining enemy tanks. The last enemy tank, which he shot, was barely 100 metres from his position. At this stage his tank received a second hit and he was mortally injured. The officer met his death denying the Pakistani Army the intended breakthrough.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Something very interesting happened 30 years later&lt;/b&gt;. The Commander of the Pakistan tank battalion is said to have met the Indian battalion commander after the battle and make enquiries about 2nd Lieutenant Khetarpal&#39;s tank since he was very impressed with the gallantry of 2nd Lieutenant Khetarpal.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2001, Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal, father of Arun Khetarpal, felt a strong desire to visit his birthplace at Sargodha, now in Pakistan. It was a wish that he thought that would never materialize, but when he voiced it to some friends engaged in the Twin Track Diplomacy, they arranged all his papers, visas, travel and staying arrangements in Pakistan so that he could go for the visit.&lt;br /&gt;
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At Lahore airport, Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal was met by Brigadier Khwaja Mohammad Naser, who took it upon himself to be Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal host and guide. Brigadier Naser really went out of way to ensure that Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal had a satisfying and nostalgic visit to his old house in Sargodha. Upon his return to Lahore he was once again the guest of Brigadier Naser for three days.&lt;br /&gt;
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Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal was overwhelmed by the extreme kindness, deference, courtesy and respect bestowed upon him by Brigadier Naser, all the members of his family and his many servants. As the countdown for the departure progressed, the bonds of friendship between the guests and the host grew stronger and stronger. However Brigadier Khetarpal felt that something was amiss but could not make out what it was. Was it the long silences that punctuated their animated conversation or was it the look of compassion in the eyes of the women in the family? He could not make out.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, what was certain was that he would always remember the hospitality, warmth and affection of this Pakistani family who treated him as someone very special.&lt;br /&gt;
Finally, on the last night before Brigadier M.L. Khetarpal&#39;s departure, Brigadier Naser said &lt;b&gt;&#39;Sir, there is something that I wanted to tell you for many years but I did not know how to get through to you. Finally, fate has intervened and sent you to me as an honoured guest. The last few days we have become close to one another and that has made my task even more difficult. It is regarding your son who is, of course, a national hero in India. However on that fateful day, your son and I were soldiers, unknown to one another, fighting for the respect and safety of our respective countries. I regret to tell you that your son died in my hands. Arun&#39;s courage was exemplary and he moved his tank with fearless courage and daring, totally unconcerned about his safety. Tank casualties were very high till finally there were just two of us left facing one another. We both fired simultaneously. It was destined that I was to live and he was to die.&lt;br /&gt;
It is only later that I got to know how young he was and who he was. We are trained to fight and kill without mercy or remorse. We do in war what we have to without thinking too much about it. However we are humans too and sometimes war takes a personal turn and makes an impact on the inner self.&lt;br /&gt;
I had all along thought that I would ask your forgiveness, but in telling the story I realize that there is nothing to forgive. Instead I salute your son for what he did at such a young age and I salute you too, because I know how he grew into such a young man. In the end it is character and values that matter.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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What a proud moment for a father this could have been! Some will agree while others will disagree with this statement after reading the above story. Different people have different perspectives and this difference of perspective is the soul of a democracy.&lt;br /&gt;
But, one fact that remains unchanged is that it is because of valiant sons like 2nd Lieutenant Arun Khetarpal and proud father’s like Brig ML Khetarpal that we are still a democracy! No doubts about the valor of Brig Naser as well.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/7777848345587236628/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/07/hero.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/7777848345587236628'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/7777848345587236628'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/07/hero.html' title='HERO'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-8092097330027213222</id><published>2011-05-10T03:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-10T03:25:05.924-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Anna Hazare"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="cuppurtion"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="india"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="law against curruption"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="lokpal"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="system"/><title type='text'>Politician or Citizen</title><content type='html'>I was there for a day at Jantar Mantar while Anna Hazare was fasting for the Jan-Lokpal bill. It was a great sight to see so many enthusiasts who wish to be a part of the change movement. There were young and old people, professionals, students, housewives, schoolchildren, people who worshipped the country as Bharat Mata, comrades who consider the constitution as toilet paper etc, all were there with their own ideas. I do not think that all of them understood the meaning of Jan Lokpal, but, all of them were fed up of curruption in the country. All needed change!&lt;br /&gt;
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While fasting Anna gave innumerable speeches. I got confused with this statement which he repeated in almost all his speeches. He said&quot; Politicians should remember that on 26 January 1950 the power was transferred to the citizens of the country and politicians are there to serve the citizens of the country&quot;. I found this statement to be self contradictory. Aren&#39;t politicians citizens of the country? So, should they be adressed with respect or abused as the people were doing there? I can understand people&#39;s uprising, but, that by no way this gives them the right to abuse politicians. I personally believe that politicians are more deserving and evolved citizens of the country as they take more responsibility in the system and do not run away by merely abusing people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Further, if we abuse our politicians we abuse the complete institution of democracy. How can a politician bashing person have any respect for democracy, because politicians are pillars of democracy. And if, we do not have respect for the institution of democracy then no Lokpal or Jan Lokpal can be of any help to us.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, we need change for the good. We need a better system to live in, a system which promotes people&#39;s participation and promotes the basics of human rights and human life. But, that by no way will come by abusing politicians. The politicians haven&#39;t let us down on many issues, we have failed as a society.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, i feel that Lokpal is an important institution for fighting corruption in India. But, bringing the Prime Minister in its ambit is disrespect to the chair of the Prime Minister. I believe that the day we get a Prime Minister who is not committed to the nation, we will all be dead and the nation will disintegrate. Policing the Prime Minister might also be required,but, let us leave it for the parliament and the opposition parties to check the Prime Minister. In all good faith, let me believe that most of us have faith in democracy and will refrain from abusing Politicians.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/8092097330027213222/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/05/politician-or-citizen.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/8092097330027213222'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/8092097330027213222'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/05/politician-or-citizen.html' title='Politician or Citizen'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-934696013049681938</id><published>2011-02-01T01:42:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-12-09T23:41:09.883-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="honesty"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="india"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="integrity"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="valliance"/><title type='text'>Is Honesty an Obsolete Virtue?</title><content type='html'>A friend of mine wanted to express his gratitude towards Major Sandeep Unnikrishnan and went to his home in Bangalore to meet his parents. It had been about a year since Major Sandeep valiantly fell to the bullets of terrorists in Mumbai. He was a bit apprehensive before ringing the calling bell as he had numerous questions in his mind, like, is he disturbing the family? Or, is he being over enthusiastic in doing so? Is this the right way to express his gratitude? Never the less, he made up his mind and pressed the door bell. Major Sandeep&#39;s father opened the door. First of all, my friend apologized for disturbing the family in the noon hours and then informed them about the purpose of his visit. Major Sandeep&#39;s father called my friend into his house. Major Sandeep’s mother and sister were also there. There was silence for a while, my friend broke the silence by thanking his parents for having brought up a brave soldier like Major Sandeep Unnikrishnan and that he would be indebted to their family all his life. He again apologized for having disturbed them and told them that he very deeply and truly felt the gratitude towards the soldier, thus, came to express the same. Major Sandeep&#39;s father was overwhelmed and told him that he was not at all disturbed. Instead, he feels the pride of being Major Sandeep&#39;s father. He further added that many politicians and dignitaries have come and expressed their gratitude, many functions have been organized to commemorate the supreme sacrifice. Although, such events make him feel good, but, he feels the best when people like my friend, an ordinary Indian, comes and expresses his or her gratitude. It is so because, such people come to express the gratitude which they feel from the bottom of their heart and are not just being ritualistic. This also endorses the greatness of the supreme sacrifice given by his son. He feels happy to be the proud father of Major Sandeep Unnikrishnan!&lt;br /&gt;
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So, if we look at honesty from this perspective, how can Honesty be an obsolete virtue?? A perspective where parents are proud of the sacrifices made by their children! How can Honesty be an obsolete virtue when we have people like Major (Dr) Laishram Jyotin Singh who went beyond the call of duty to fight armed terrorists with bare hands? How can Honesty be an obsolete virtue when we have people like S Manjunath and Satyendra Dubey who did not bow down to corruption and exposed the criminal-politician nexus? &lt;br /&gt;
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Honesty is not an obsolete virtue, because, as Honesty is a virtue so is Valiance and these two are not mutually exclusive. Death is something which is obvious and will occur, but, more important is the way we live our lives. As popularly said,” It’s about adding life to years and not years to life&quot;! Crusaders for Honesty might die fighting their battles, but, it is their stories and their character which keep the civilizations alive!&lt;br /&gt;
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It’s only a matter of perspective. Either we get afraid by hearing such stories of deaths or we call them sacrifices and bring our blood to boil and pledge to carry forward the half finished campaigns of these people. The campaign of building India into a Vibrant Democracy!</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/934696013049681938/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/02/is-honesty-obsolete-virtue.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/934696013049681938'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/934696013049681938'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/02/is-honesty-obsolete-virtue.html' title='Is Honesty an Obsolete Virtue?'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-8454572385510502998</id><published>2011-01-31T01:42:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-02T02:46:52.919-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="attitude"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="life"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="persepctive"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="personal"/><title type='text'>Doing Nothing Roxx!!</title><content type='html'>A friend of mine had quit his job and was, supposedly, preparing for civil services about three years back. During this preparatory sabbatical, his parents once took him to a community function. The purpose of such community functions generally is to help people of the community find suitable matches for their sons and daughters. Simply speaking, girls and boys are put on display during such events, so was my friend. While on display, a lady came up to him and asked him the grand old million dollar question, &quot;Son, what do you do&quot;? She might have approached him considering him to be a prospective candidate for some girl in her family. The reply which my friend gave was although not unique, but, is not expected at such get-togethers. Foolishly, something very natural to him, he spoke the truth. He said &quot;Nothing&quot;! This reply shook my friend&#39;s parents to their core and in turn they turned his life into hell by abruptly ending his “preparatory sabbatical”. He used to stay with me in Delhi and prepare. Thus, he was also warned of serious consequences in case he kept any further contact with me.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am also in a similar, not same though, situation these days. I am looking for a suitable job for myself. Suitable jobs and wives seem to be concepts of yester years only! These days, one needs to be a good manager instead. Initially, in this golden phase, when I used to wake up early in the morning and look at the clock, a sense of depression used to creep in for a moment, thinking that its time to wake up. The very next moment my mind used to ask itself. Where do you have to go today? The mind also used to itself reply very promptly, “Nowhere”! Ha Ha!! “Nothing to do, go and sleep”, this feeling used to fill me up with elation. Subsequently, I used to pull my blanket again and then used to sleep for as long as I wanted to sleep. I loved this part of the situation and still love it, but now, I uninterruptedly sleep for as long as I wish to sleep!&lt;br /&gt;
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The relief of having no pressure to do anything brings happiness, but at the same time, the question, how to pass the day all alone brings in dismay. I &quot;love and hate&quot; the situation at the same time! Love and hate for having nothing to do and being alone for the rest of the day. Watching your flat mates rushing in order to get ready to go to office in the morning makes you happy for being in this state, but also,  brings in the sadness of a desperate lonely housewife. Thankfully, I haven’t developed the habit of chit chatting with maids like many housewives do. Although, you have all the space and time for your self, but at times, it seems too much! You feel elated for having all the time in the world and sad for not having enough activities to pass the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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This mental conflict of Love-Hate, Elation-Sadness helped me to understand the good old words of wisdom which i always knew (I am used to learning things the hard way), that, like a coin, life also has two aspects for every situation. It’s your attitude and perspective that matter and help you in having a peaceful and positive state of mind!&lt;br /&gt;
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PS :- Title thanks Gtalk status of a friend a few years back. I hope you remember it friend!&lt;br /&gt;
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Have you ever had a similar fire-freeze moment - an unforgettably magical moment when you felt two strongly opposite emotions? Love/Hate? Elation/Sadness? Anger/Sympathy? The desire to move forward yet run away at the same time?&lt;br /&gt;
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Please comment/share/brief your fire-freeze story both in the comment section of this post and at the url: http://www.facebook.com/closeupindia&lt;br /&gt;
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India has always been a prosperous land where nature itself supports development of Human Life. This is evident by the fact the sub-continent is home to about 22% of the world&#39;s population with only 2.2% of the world&#39;s land surface area. Thus, India has been a country which has attracted various softwares/thoughts from across the world, since time immemorial, and accommodated them. Indians always believed that accommodating these thoughts is a part of development of the society. But, Indians were deceived in 1947 when a part of their soul asked for its own land! A particular thought (Islam) that India had accommodated long ago wanted its own land. India was partitioned into two countries, one being for Muslims (remember that the remaining India still belongs to people of all faiths), while it was evolving into a modern nation state (I emphasize on the Modern Indian State Factor). India, then, paid the price for being liberal and accommodative and is still paying the price for the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is evident by a number of practises which are still prevalent in independent modern Indian State. Majority of Indians including Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists etc consider cow to be a sacred animal. It has been given the status of &quot;Mother&quot; in Hinduism. Thus, Hindus pray cows. But, it is ironical that &quot;Cow Slaughter&quot; is legal in India which has a Hindu majority. The argument in favour of cow slaughter being, banning cow slaughter infringes upon the eating habits of some communities and hence, banning cow slaughter, is a non-democratic and non-secular move. Democratic value of secularism is only expected out of Hindus. Others have been exempted from practising it. Still, ironically, Hindu is called communal and India, anti Islamic!&lt;br /&gt;
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Another important observation that can be made is the absence of a common civil code. This means that Muslims in India have immunity to some of the laws which are applicable to the rest of the population. Muslim personal law board is the custodian is of these laws. If Pakistan was made for Muslims, then people who did not want to abide by &quot;Common Law&quot; should have moved to Pakistan. How can there be a separate set of rules for a Muslim and a separate set for the rest of the communities. Casteism and Sati Pratha can be banned by law but Polygamy, Triple Talaq etc cannot be banned by law because they are under the premise of the Muslim Personal Law. All this, despite the fact that India is a Hindu majority country. A Hindu is still advised to practise religious tolerance, Strange Indeed!&lt;br /&gt;
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Some people make a hue and cry about the proposition by some political parties to make religious conversion illegal in India. They consider that religious freedom is the soul of India. Soul is very discretionary for Muslims, it is only used to their personal advantage. No one wants to look at the fact that conversion also promotes &quot;Religious Comparison&quot; which is a basic reason for communal discord. A person will convert to another religion only when he finds one religion either better or lucrative (most of the times there are financial benefits attached to conversion) than his existing one. Why allow conversion when present day law has the provision of banning discriminatory practises in religion (Only Muslims are immune to law by means of personal law board). Still I hear voices(from well educated people) which say that Muslims feel that they are unwanted in India, only problem for Hindus is that there are 20 crore Muslims and such a large number can neither be killed nor driven out of the country. Thus, have to somehow adjust. What a ridiculous thought?&lt;br /&gt;
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There are many other discriminatory practises but, the final issue that I would like to take up in this blog is the biggest controversy that surrounds India for centuries, The Babri Masjid Issue. Can you imagine of a country in which there exists a mosque (which belongs to the minority community) at the birthplace of the most revered religious figure of the majority community? Leave apart the idea of having a place of worship. India had such a place! Babri Masjid was at a place where the most revered religious figure of Hindus, Sri Ram, was born. It was brought down after one of the biggest movement’s of independent India in 1992. Although, Hindus have not been able to make a temple at that spot till now, the issue has been blown out of proportion by Muslims. Many consider it to be the trigger for resentment of Muslims in India. Muslims still stake their claim on the site. &lt;br /&gt;
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I do not want to get into any of the legal aspects of the dispute and just want Muslims to compromise their stand on only this issue for the sake of mutual brotherhood. Hindus, as narrated in the article, have compromised on all issues which were offensive to self but were in the favour of Muslims. If Muslims consider India to be their motherland and value the sentiments of Hindus, I expect them to compromise on this issue. Today, Babri Masjid is only an issue of compromise for the sake of peace. &lt;br /&gt;
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Let us leave apart the history of creation of India. After taking into account all that is said above which takes place in present day independent India, it is high time that the so called educated and liberal Hindus take a stand on this and stop considering Babri Masjid, or any of the above mentioned issues, as religious issues. They should consider these issues as issues of understanding between two communities. Else, there will be a time when their liberal thought will cease to exist and Hindu will have no identity in the world. Identity of Hindu is completely dependent on India, if India exists Hindus exist and vice versa.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, this might have confused all people who have read my earlier blogs, they must be thinking how come a person who speaks about liberal and modern thought has suddenly developed a fundamentalist tone! This has a reason and I am going to discuss it now.&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost, no Hindu will find a fault with my blog. Everyone will believe in what I have written because this blog has been written from their perspective. Many Muslims might contest the thought because they have been told about a different “Idea of India”. They will contest the fact about India being a single country since time immemorial and Cow Slaughter. Many would say that India was always ruled by different rulers and was never a single country. In any case, it is only a matter of perspective on issues and the above arguments are enough to convince a Hindu that Hinduism is under threat. Thus, one has to agree to the importance of perspective and intent even while discussing facts.&lt;br /&gt;
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All the above mentioned Hindu resentment can be very easily contested by the logic of liberal and modern thought which most of the Indians want to follow. But, when issues like the one in Kashmir come up and the scale in which they come up, it gives a very strong reason for Hindus to believe in the above mentioned logic. This also gives an opportunity to Hindu Fundamentalists to exploit the Hindu sentiment. Thus, it becomes the responsibility of every one of us who believes in modern thought to start creating a positive opinion with the intent of making a progressive nation and society as a whole.&lt;br /&gt;
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This blog also intends to put forth the complexities that exist in the Kashmir issue from a larger Indian perspective. It is not as easy as autonomy or Plebiscite, there is a larger picture associated with it. I hope, as one of my senior says, good sense prevails after reading this piece of writing.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/3974026478240513079/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/01/india-hindu-way.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/3974026478240513079'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/3974026478240513079'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/01/india-hindu-way.html' title='India-The Hindu Way'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-6939581091716781876</id><published>2011-01-17T08:29:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-17T08:29:55.719-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="BJP"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Flag Hoisting in Kashmir"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Kashmir"/><title type='text'>Kissing Kashmir</title><content type='html'>The other day, i was watching a debate on the BJP&#39;s flag hoisting issue on TV,Prof Radha Kumar ( kashmir issue interlocutor) was also a part of the debate. Looking at her points and accent, it seemed as if Basanti from Sholey had been appointed the interlocutor for the Kashmir Issue. With due respect to her credentials, i did not find her points impressive at all.Although,it was for the first time that i was listening to her. During the debate, i was confused. My confusion was that despite being an ardent supporter of the fact that &quot;Kashmir is an integral part of India&quot;, why was i not supporting the flag hoisting campaign? Kashmir is an integral part of India and every Indian has the right to hoist the flag in any part of the country as flag hoisting a matter of national pride. Still,  was not ready to accept it in this case. My confusion was making me restless.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later in the night,unable to sleep, i got the answer in terms of an analogy. I started comparing BJP&#39;s flag hoisting campaign to that of a husband&#39;s desperate attempt to kiss his estranged wife who is seeking divorce. On being opposed, the husband supports his move by saying that &quot;kissing is a gesture of love&quot;!! What a strange logic? Does this fit in the context and situation? I then understood that this was exactly my confusion, the logic given in support of the campaign that flag hoisting is a matter of national pride.&lt;br /&gt;
My only question is, despite kiss being a gesture of love, how does it help in saving the marriage in this case?</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/6939581091716781876/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/01/kissing-kashmir.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/6939581091716781876'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/6939581091716781876'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/01/kissing-kashmir.html' title='Kissing Kashmir'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-1560848710245667041</id><published>2011-01-03T05:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-03T05:32:36.306-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="children"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="education"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="mid day meal"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="society"/><title type='text'>Kaliyuga&#39;s &quot;Akshaya Patra&quot;</title><content type='html'>Most of us are in the quest to understanding the meaning of life, our reason to live. This quest might seem unending right now, but for sure, it does have benchmarks of understanding. I believe that these benchmarks of understanding and the subsequent translation of this understanding into action help us in defining a person as a wise, good or bad part of the society. Misunderstanding is dangerous though!&lt;br /&gt;
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My understanding also has a few benchmarks; the first is of considering a man/woman (not mentioning woman is a benchmark of misunderstanding life) as a living organism. By considering a man/woman as an organism we get to know the importance of food. As an organism, we need only three things to survive, food, water and air. All these three were initially provided to us free of cost by nature. Today, sadly, food is a commodity which is not available free of cost (we recently heard our economist PM teaching food economics to the country when food was rotting in government godowns), water is getting commoditized which is visible by the number of disputes over river water and soon in the future, looking at the pollution levels, we will have to buy air! In any case, we all should acknowledge the understanding that the organism side is the primary side of any man/woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second benchmark of understanding is of considering a man/woman as a human. Here i would define human as an organism which lives in the society and follows a some rules and leads a specific way of life. These rules are a result of the thousands of years of evolution which transformed a man/woman from being a mere organism to being the dominant organism called Human. As our life span is limited, all these rules cannot evolve in a life time. Thus, human innovated the education system! This system compresses all the evolution into a structured program which is then taught to men and women so that they transform into humans.&lt;br /&gt;
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Keeping apart the success or failure of our education system which is an unending discussion, we will have to appreciate the fact that a man/woman is first a living organism and then a Human. One has to qualify as a living being and only then can he or she can qualify to be a Human. Sadly, we have forgotten this! Despite knowing the fact that &quot;Empty stomachs do not understand any ideology&quot;, we preach without considering the earlier mentioned fact.   &lt;br /&gt;
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Post independence, Government of India realized the fact and launched a mid day meal scheme for children going to school. This scheme has contributed significantly in raising our levels of literacy from 12% in 1947 to about 68% today. But, as we know, we are home to about 17% of the world&#39;s population and government&#39;s efforts alone cannot solve the purpose. A literate and educated India will contribute positively to the modern world. Thus, working for a better India is like significantly contributing for a better world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pandavas were blessed with unlimited supply of food by the Sun God. In Kaliyuga, we believe that god resides within us. Thus, let us bless the &quot;Kaliyuga&#39;s Akshaya Patra&quot; so that we meet the ambition of transforming the world into a better place by ensuring that children do not study empty stomach.&lt;br /&gt;
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We might also be doing this at an individual level. But, joining hands with likeminded people will surely act like a shot in the arm. Supporting people like Mr Madhu Pandit Das, who have unquestionable and unyielding integrity, in their life&#39;s mission in the easiest means of contributing towards achieving the goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope that the readers appreciate the idea and support Akshaya Patra. Kindly click here to donate http://www.akshayapatra.org/individual-donors .</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/1560848710245667041/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/01/kaliyugas-akshaya-patra.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/1560848710245667041'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/1560848710245667041'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2011/01/kaliyugas-akshaya-patra.html' title='Kaliyuga&#39;s &quot;Akshaya Patra&quot;'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-716080125232984419</id><published>2010-12-29T03:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2014-02-16T07:23:40.894-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="AAP"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Ambani"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="arvind kejriwal"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="business"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="corruption"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="governance"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="niira radia"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="sales"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="system"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="women"/><title type='text'>Irony of Contradictions</title><content type='html'>The other day, i was looking at&amp;nbsp;one of my&amp;nbsp;friend&#39;s honeymoon album (outdoor only) on FB. It was indeed beautiful, the location, the photography and his wife of course(with due regard)!.Other than all this beauty,i made one more observation. It was my friend&#39;s wife&#39;s attire. She was wearing shorts and a sleeveless tee shirt. This was a good combination which was getting along with her personality well. But,one thing that caught my eye was her hand which was covered with bangles from wrist to elbow. Although this was not the first time i had seen this attire, i have never been able to digest it. I sometimes consider it to be the effect of a mixed economy on our lives. I consider shorts and tee shirt to be symbols of liberation and physical comfort while bangles in the hand reflect the bounds of being a wife.We happen to mix everything and live in total contradiction.Ironically,or luckily, not even recognizing the contradiction!&lt;br /&gt;
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Somewhat similar confusion exists in our business world as well. I very well remember the time when i used to&amp;nbsp;prepare stories in order to save myself from&amp;nbsp;a gang bang by bosses for having been unable to&amp;nbsp;force in favorable specifications in the tender document issued by the customer. All stories used to be of no use because,mostly,it is only&amp;nbsp;the best of the story tellers who rise&amp;nbsp;up the ranks in sales management and have all the logic for negating your stories,the best story teller being your CEO. In professional words, as put in by my CEO, &quot;a successful sales professional fights for his company in front of the customer and fights for his customer in front of his company&quot;. In practical terms, he has to be an adept story teller on both the fronts! Other than storytelling, our companies also expect us to possess unyielding integrity. Here,my logic fails me. How can one be an adept story teller(storyteller here is a person who covers his lies by telling interesting stories) and a man of integrity at the same time? Here also people fail to recognize the contradictions!&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me put forth a case.All sales professionals(respectful address to salesmen), especially those who have handled government business, will easily&amp;nbsp;recall the following statement of their bosses which comes soon after a tender which does not carry favorable specifications is advertised(only advertised not decided,all professionals will agree that deals are won and lost long before the tender is advertised). Tera account pe kya hold hai(as if customers were reporting to me)? This statement clearly asks the salesman to tell about the lobby that he has in that specific government department. Going by these words, every company expects its sales professionals to have a lobby in the government. As every company has a sales team for handling government accounts, we can imagine the level of lobbying that exists in the government.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we agree with the above logic, we will have to appreciate the salesman(woman) ship of Niira Radia! Her lobby was so strong that she could lobby for the portfolios of ministers in the union government(choosing dumbest among the dumb so that she could get her work done). This is what a company expects out of its sales force. And, salesmen with such strong lobbying skills and powerful contacts are designated as CEO&#39;s and business partners of companies.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;
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Now comes the million dollar question. How is lobbying done? How can a salesman lobby? From the company&#39;s perspective,It is expected for a salesman to be a resourceful person for the customer.Resourceful such that he is a&amp;nbsp;consultant for the customer and works towards mutual growth and benefit of the company as well as the customer. This is a statement which most of us would have read in the &quot;vision&quot; and &quot;mission&quot; statements of most organizations. But mostly, the level of resourcefulness lies in the ability of story telling. In any case, objective of all these&quot;vision&quot; and &quot;mission&quot;&amp;nbsp;statements&amp;nbsp;is dependent on the intent of the organization or the person who is representing the organization in front of the customer. Thus, Resourceful is a dangerous adjective. It has many meanings and when the prime intent of the organization as well as the person representing the organization is profit, being resourceful becomes even more dangerous. &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyways, I would like to leave it for the reader to define&quot; a&amp;nbsp;resourceful salesman&quot; considering their own experiences with salesmen and keeping in view the fact that the prime objective of this resource is to earn money. What i want to convey here is that we all are a part of this system. We get into an offensive mode when something like a Niira radia tape comes out. But, ironically,we aspire to become the same(minus controversy). We continue to live in the extreme contradiction like the woman wearing shorts and bangles, not even realising the contradictions of the situation. One factor, i can attribute for these contradictions could be compromises me make due compulsions. Compulsions of meeting our aspirations,aspirations which we develop looking at the world around! I would leave it open for readers to look for other factors. I hope we will someday come out of these compulsions and contradictions.If not come out,we will at least start recognizing them soon!</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/716080125232984419/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/12/irony-of-contradictions.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/716080125232984419'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/716080125232984419'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/12/irony-of-contradictions.html' title='Irony of Contradictions'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-8514745562139544392</id><published>2010-12-19T03:00:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-19T03:00:07.762-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="alcohol"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="nation"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="rehabilitation"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="society"/><title type='text'>Story of an Alcoholic</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;He wakes up on the morning of 15&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; August cursing himself for having drunk the remaining half of the bottle which he should have actually saved for today. On 14&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;, he purchased a full bottle instead of his regular quota of half a bottle as 15&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; August is a dry day. This is not the first time that he has done so. It has been a regular feature of his life. Next, he starts looking for Disprins. He quickly gobbles up two tablets and swears in the name of god that he will never repeat such a blunder again! God is expected to understand his problem and cannot be rude to him! He gets out of the bed after another two hours of sleep. By now, the hangover has reduced. He goes to the market and has a cup of tea followed by two glasses of fruit Juice. He gets his lunch packed from a hotel and comes back home. Now, starts the toughest part of his Holiday! How should he pass the next 5 to 6 hours of the day? None of his good friends are in town, all the remaining are useless. They would suggest plans like going for a movie or roaming around in a mall which he considers as a sheer waste of time and money. His next worry is that, as he had finished the whole bottle yesterday, he will have to get his day’s quota by “Jugad”. He will not get his brand!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Above mentioned are sequence of events that “only an alcoholic” or a person who has lived with an alcoholic can relate to. Everybody cannot be called an alcoholic, to join this elite club one has to have some of these qualities:-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;All monetary calculations are in the multiples of the prices of quarters, halves and full bottles of Daru. For e.g. - Cost of a movie followed by food is equal to the price of a half and a quarter of Blenders Pride Whiskey (snacks and soda/cold drink excluded) and Cost of a 3BHK flat in NOIDA would be equal to the money that will be spent by this person on daru in the next 30 years (This is the best way known to him to invest money, after all its all about living in the present).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;There is no party without Daru. People who do not drink do not know how to enjoy!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Vendors at all the nearby wine shops greet him whenever he goes to their shop, the nearby snack and soda vendors also greet him and know his menu.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Best daru is that which comes free of cost, next is a party on pay for yourself basis and the final option is to drink alone at home. The first option is observed more in people who have taken a sabbatical from work to pursue further (not necessarily higher) studies. Remaining two are the most favoured options of decently earning, financially responsible alcoholics! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;5)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;The best way to spend on others, in case one has to, is to sit and drink with them. The best possible gift on earth is also a Bottle of Daru!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;6)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Finishing half a bottle should not take him more than 5 pegs!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;7)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;He is never impartial in making pegs! His peg size is the standard, maximum also, others have the choice of making smaller pegs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;8)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;He believes that it is better to have extra Daru than to fall short of it at the end of the party. But, on most occasions, he falls short of it because he, that day, enjoyed drinking more than any other day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;9)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;He knows his limit (he can drink any amount). And, he becomes extra cautious once he is behind the steering wheel, although he might not remember the sequence events the following day!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;10)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;He has no idea of other available options to pass his time “constructively”, especially between 7 to 10 in the evening.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpLast&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;11)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Visiting a doctor is useless because he does not understand the problem, instead, advises to quit drinking. He might also threaten him with a LFT (Liver Function Test). Thus, wisdom is in avoiding doctors.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;These are the qualities a person has to possess in order to join the elite club. There can be many other qualities as well. This elite club also has some outstanding members; these people have set benchmarks of achievement for club members. They have performed feats like:-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;They have bought Daru on credit from a wine shop. And, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoListParagraphCxSpLast&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 36pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -18pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;mso-list: Ignore;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;They have never said no to Daru in their life! Be it any challenge: early morning offer, office time offer, party after party offer etc, they have always honoured the offer without caring of the consequences.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Now, I believe, you are in a position to understand the amount of time, effort and investment that is required to join the elite club of alcoholics. But, most people do not understand this. They undermine the achievement of an alcoholic. These people do not understand that it is only because of this alcoholic that the state is able to execute development plans. He contributes the maximum amount to the state in the form of tax on liquor, only other tax revenue above this is revenue from petroleum. He contributes to that also because he daily drives a few miles extra to reach the wine shop! Leave aside the amount the government earns from taxes on his snacks and soda! Look at Kerala, the state with 100% literacy has started earning the maximum amount of tax revenue from liquor, tax collection from liquor this financial has exceeded tax collected from petroleum. That is why it is called “The god’s own country”!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Description of an alcoholic seems very funny! We see many alcoholics performing antics around us, this makes us believe that people around them must also be enjoying. But, for the near and dear ones of an alcoholic, it is always not that funny. All these qualities might have a different meaning for them and might remind them of traumatic experiences they have had with their alcoholic family member. Comparing the cost of liquor with a movie might be acceptable, not always though, but, its comparison with the schooling expenses of his child is never acceptable. One can only imagine the trauma of the family members who have to deal with such problems on a regular basis. Alcohol leads the household of an alcoholic to a complete mess. Thus, Alcoholism, since a long time, has been regarded as one of the worst and widely spread social evils of our society (The only challenge it faces today must be from terrorism). A lot has been written about it and it is accepted beyond doubt that people should abstain from alcohol. But, I am not writing this to criticize an alcoholic. I am here to present his side of the story. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;If we look at the ‘qualities’, as described above, of an alcoholic we can make out that, at any particular point of time, irrespective of the alcoholic consuming alcohol or not his brain is always thinking about it! His brain is now programmed in such a way that his logic has a very strong element of ‘alcoholism’ in it. He cannot think out of the realm of alcohol. Another major issue is that his expression of joy as well as sorrow is associated with alcohol. To understand his plight, let us imagine of the one thing that we love to do when we are happy. Now, try to think of a life without that activity. Life will look like a void. Such is the idea about life of an alcoholic without alcohol. Thus, he never thinks about leaving alcohol.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Calibri;&quot;&gt;Someone once rightly compared alcoholics with TB patients. He said, as TB cannot be cured without treatment,&amp;nbsp;neither can&amp;nbsp;one get rid of alcoholism without treatment(although exceptions exist). Thus, next time you ask an alcoholic to quit alcohol, think for yourself once, how can you leave something that you associate with happiness with life. Thus,&amp;nbsp;we can reduce the problems in the life of an alcoholic(if&amp;nbsp;we are not able to help him in treatment) by&amp;nbsp;avoiding to give him regular&amp;nbsp;&quot;gyan&quot;&amp;nbsp; to quit alcohol ! Also, an alcoholic, despite being a major contributor to the state exchequer, is the most neglected person of the society.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/8514745562139544392/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/12/story-of-alcoholic.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/8514745562139544392'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/8514745562139544392'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/12/story-of-alcoholic.html' title='Story of an Alcoholic'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-3241192512079097272</id><published>2010-10-27T13:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-10-27T13:07:00.324-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Violence by State-Lessons to be Learnt</title><content type='html'>Comments by Arundathi Roy have always annoyed the Indian government,her latest one on Kashmir is only an addition to it! I have listened to her and Gautam Navlakha on the issue of &quot;Violence by State&quot;. I appreciated their views which&amp;nbsp;strongly opposed&amp;nbsp;the use of violence by the government in many parts of the country&amp;nbsp;and criticised the apathy shown by government towards a large section of its people over the years. But, i start sensing cynicism in their words when they get extreme with their criticism of the Indian government. I start suspecting their belief in democracy. Its ironical, these people speak against the only system which gives them freedom to speak! How can a person speak of peace and secession at a time and still be considered logical?&lt;br /&gt;
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I ,personally, also do not support the use of violence by state against its own people. But unfortunately, also, find no other way out in situations like Maoist violence, North East India and Kashmir insurgency.The government was left with no choice other than to use force. Use of force leads to mistrust among the people in the government agencies&amp;nbsp;which makes the condition prone to speculation. Speculation and Mistrust lead to misery and loss of human life. This can be brought under control by strong political will and government action. This is a proven fact, we have examples like&amp;nbsp;Punjab, Andhra Pradesh and many parts of North East India. Thus, there are ways out of such situations.&lt;br /&gt;
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My point is a little different. I feel, we should look at these issues&amp;nbsp;from the point of view of the lessons that they teach to India as a nation. If we look at Naxalism,Maoism,NE insurgency we can see that the root cause of these problems is negligence by the government on the economic front. Our development plans were not comprehensively covering the country and were focused on some parts of the country. We have realised the problem and,&amp;nbsp;hence, find&amp;nbsp;development as a default agenda in the manifesto of all political parties. Although, implementation of the&amp;nbsp;plans is debatable,but,that then becomes a political matter and encourages us to participate in the political process to set our system in order. In any case, the learning is very good. We as a nation have learnt that we cannot develop by focusing on some sections/regions of the society/country. We need to take all the people along with us. I hope,we soon see the implementation also!&lt;br /&gt;
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Now,let us consider the Kashmir case. The only reason,i find for insurgency in Kashmir is religious. We,as a nation,believe in the concept of secularism(at least by the constitution). If India agrees to secession of Kashmir from the union, what lesson does it teach to our coming generations? I feel that they would be:-&lt;br /&gt;
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1) India respects the views and aspirations&amp;nbsp;of various communities.&lt;br /&gt;
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2)Muslims do not consider themselves to be Indians. As and when Muslims get majority status in any state, they will break India.&lt;br /&gt;
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I will be happy with the first lesson,but,will never like India to learn the second lesson. We have seen it once during Partition in 1947 and are trying to forget it as a nightmare. But, problems like Kashmir forcibly remind us of that time.&lt;br /&gt;
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These are my personal views and would appreciate your comments on it!</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/3241192512079097272/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/10/violence-by-state-lessons-to-be-learnt.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/3241192512079097272'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/3241192512079097272'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/10/violence-by-state-lessons-to-be-learnt.html' title='Violence by State-Lessons to be Learnt'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-14020971924368131</id><published>2010-10-02T00:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-12-20T11:54:31.762-08:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="energy conservation"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="free grain distribution"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="natural resource conservation"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="price rise"/><title type='text'>The Third World War</title><content type='html'>It is a common practice in most of the Middle Class Indian house holds to employ maids and servants to help them&amp;nbsp;in their regular house hold chores. Some people who come in the upper middle class and rich class bracket also employ drivers and assistants to help in day to day activities other than daily house hold chores. Rich people all over the world are known for their lavish life styles and the number of servants and assistants employed by a person can be considered as parameter for judging&amp;nbsp;a person&#39;s richness! It is not possible for the middle class in the most of the&amp;nbsp;rich nations to employ maids and servants,because the middle class there cannot afford them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Similar is the case&amp;nbsp;with industries, here labourers work to produce goods&amp;nbsp;and services. Such huge is the supply of unskilled labour in India that they cannot demand a price for their services. Thus, the government had to fix a minimum wage rate. This&amp;nbsp;does not happen&amp;nbsp;in case of highly skilled labour which has demand in the market&amp;nbsp;and can demand wage on their own terms. These skilled labour have been beneficiaries of the growth and development in the country and now, have themselves become employers. These people form the majority of the &quot;Middle Class&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we closely look at the above scenario we can see that, in a way, it is the poor who subsidise the luxury of the rich and being poor&amp;nbsp;or rich are purely relative concepts. Had there not been poor people in India, the middle class would not have had the luxury of employing people for their daily chores. This can also be observed from the world history, rich have always exploited the poor for their luxuries. How did Europe become rich? They exploited their colonies to the extreme. US also does it in a limited way, as is observed&amp;nbsp;in its Middle East policy. In India, at present, the exploitation is within the country. Slowly, as Indians start getting richer, India might have to explore options outside in order to meet its internal demand for resources(both human and energy). Thus, India will invest outside and that would be an economic decision.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let us look at this from&amp;nbsp;one more&amp;nbsp;perspective. Human thought&amp;nbsp;has also&amp;nbsp;developed with all this economic growth. In India, at least as per the law, employing someone to clean Human Excreta is prohibited. Thus, we can see at least some kind of Human Development. This kind of development is supported by &quot;Technology&quot;. Technology, in many cases,&amp;nbsp;has been very&amp;nbsp;useful in substituting the use of poor people&amp;nbsp;as servants to&amp;nbsp;rich people. This can be observed from our day to day life activities. We no more exploit animals and humans to travel, instead we use&amp;nbsp;machine driven vehicles. Our dependence on servants at our homes has also reduced by&amp;nbsp;machines like vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc&amp;nbsp;or by the availability of ready to cook food.Thus, i believe that technology is a big factor in trying to ensure equality to people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, from the above explanation we&amp;nbsp;see only&amp;nbsp;two&amp;nbsp;means&amp;nbsp;for development. Exploit the poor&amp;nbsp;or develop technology! There is no other way to ensure a person&#39;s luxury. Also, we can observe that poverty is relative. In India, factor for determining the poverty of a person&amp;nbsp;is his nutrition intake whereas in a rich nation could be nutrition along with basic amenities of life. Thus, i believe that the standard of poor will improve with time,but, they will still remain poor compared to the rich and will always aspire to achieve what the rich have. Many of these poor will also be&amp;nbsp;against the lifestyle of the rich and of the means employed by the rich to accumulate wealth. Because, as discussed earlier about food and air security, issues of conflict might be different then. I personally believe that all this will be centered around use of natural resources. In any case, these relatively poor people will be subsidising the luxury of the rich what ever may be the technological development.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, there will remain some poor as well as rich countries. Only, the definition for rich and poor would change. Next generation conflicts, as discussed in the&amp;nbsp;previous blog, could be for water and air rights! In any case, conflicts between the rich and poor will remain.Let us consider the other possible option which most people would discard by calling it as &quot;Utopian&quot;.Here all people become rich.Such becomes the world that there are no rich or poor, almost all people come in a specific &quot;bandwidth of richness&quot; and their luxuries are supported by technology. We have robots instead of humans serving people. This might seem to be a very happy state and we might see no reason for conflict in such a scenario.But, technology requires energy and natural resources.Do we have the resources to support such technological luxury? We might find alternatives for energy,but do we have even have a faint idea about the source of getting extra land, water and air. Hence, we will fight for them. Thus, even in this &quot;Utopian&quot; case there exists a scope for conflict.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, if we are able to appreciate the above analogy, we can understand that we might grow but we might not be able to solve our conflicts. Conflicts for known reasons and because of a known system. I do not say that we will have a conflict free world tomorrow if we solve these conflicts,but, i expect that at least the conflicts will reduce and we will develop an attitude to address conflicts instead of the current attitude of taking extreme stances.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now that we have understood that conflict will exist, let us look at another aspect, the ferocity of the conflict.&amp;nbsp; As we have discussed earlier that poverty is a relative concept, the poor of the would be technologically and financially far better off that what they are today. They will even be better equipped in terms of weaponry. Even today, we find America raising hue and cry over the possession of &quot;weapons of mass destruction&quot; by many countries.&amp;nbsp;In the present scenario,&amp;nbsp;imagine of a deadly nuclear attack on America and its effects on global politics!&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, if we are so worried about the state of affairs today when the weaker section of the society is not very well equipped and the resource crunch is not&amp;nbsp;as much as is expected to be in the near future. Imagine when it becomes a matter of survival and the person who&#39;s existence is at stake is very well equipped to cause substantial damage to the world. How long will we be able to rely on the conscience of the rebel (we see this when Maoist rebels kidnap our policemen)&amp;nbsp;when we ,the main stream people,&amp;nbsp;are killing our conscience every day today?&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, if we go on like this, a &quot;third world war&quot; is inevitable! The division&amp;nbsp;for it,this time,&amp;nbsp;would be along economic lines. It will be between the rich and the poor. But, by that time, the poor will be so&amp;nbsp;well equipped that mass destruction would be inevitable.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If today we are not able to manage land disputes,imagine how will we be able to manage water and air disputes? And, all this is set to happen in our life time!&lt;br /&gt;
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All this will be because of the system that we are following. Mad Capitalism! Although, i personally believe that&amp;nbsp;&quot;Democracy and Capitalism&quot; is the best combination among the systems that we have got in the present times.We also need to look at the extreme negative side of this growth&amp;nbsp;and take necessary corrective action.&amp;nbsp; Radical changes might not be possible at the moment,but, at least a step towards&amp;nbsp;improvement is necessary! Also, I personally do not have any concrete solutions for this problem.But,am sure, recognising the issue is first step towards resolving it!</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/14020971924368131/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/10/third-world-war.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/14020971924368131'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/14020971924368131'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/10/third-world-war.html' title='The Third World War'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567584661955315382.post-8622619455786950494</id><published>2010-09-29T00:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-14T06:19:02.239-07:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="exploitation"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="global warming"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="maoism"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="poverty"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="resources"/><title type='text'>Food Water and Air Economics</title><content type='html'>In the past few&amp;nbsp;days we have heard&amp;nbsp;a lot about Food rotting at FCI godowns, the subsequent direction of the SC to distribute the food amongst the poor and finally the debate about the possible means to distribute the food. Despite the PM saying that distributing food free of cost might be a disincentive for farmers, many ways were suggested by various political parties to distribute food to the poor. For Eg. extra grains can be allocated to the PDS of the&amp;nbsp;poorest districts of the country free of cost, poor people can be distributed food coupons which can be redeemed against grain etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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All these methods, although&amp;nbsp;being practical could not be effectively applied because they did not have&amp;nbsp;proper checks &amp;amp; balances in place. One could not&amp;nbsp;stop these grains from going into the black market. It is almost impossible to build a system where the giver is not benefited&amp;nbsp;without giving&amp;nbsp;a benefit back&amp;nbsp;to the receiver. Thus, the receiver must pay in some or the other way to receive that something,&amp;nbsp;this something&amp;nbsp;is food here. This raises doubts about the effectiveness of the Food Security Bill that the government is proposing.&lt;br /&gt;
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All these deliberations make me question our development as a society. Food is something that nature gives us free of cost! So, in all these years of development have we actually simplified the way we live or we&amp;nbsp;have actually made our lives complex(like we first develop complex financial systems and later use software to simplify them,learning those softwares is also a big problem in itself,we call this development). I do not understand where this kind of development will lead us to. &lt;br /&gt;
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We might not accept the blame for making food as a salable commodity&amp;nbsp;because we&amp;nbsp;cannot conceive of a&amp;nbsp;modern system where food&amp;nbsp;could be free. We would attribute free food to be a concept of nomadic prehistoric life where man would eat whatever he got. Free food in the present day would only be considered&amp;nbsp;Charity!&amp;nbsp;I also do not have any chronology of&amp;nbsp;facts to show how food got commoditised. But, i&amp;nbsp;see a ongoing change which is comparable to commoditisation of food. We can also extrapolate this to the possible future.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commoditisation of Water and Future Commoditisation of Air:-&lt;br /&gt;
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One interesting fact i observed is that we can survive without food for weeks, without water for days and without air for only a few minutes. Their commoditisation is also happening in the same order. It is not far away when we will face problems similar to distribution&amp;nbsp;of food with distribution of water. People will find it illogical ,&quot;economically&quot;, to distribute water free of cost, because, then water will be a salable commodity,freely available water will not be consumable by anyone,many of us even today cannot drink non-bottled water!People might be dying of thirst and the PM would say that &quot;it is against the basic tenets of economics to give water free of cost&quot;! If we further extrapolate it to commoditisation of Air. I can easily assume that people can be held&amp;nbsp;at ransom&amp;nbsp;for supply of Air. Also, biggest charity could be distributing Air &quot;Free of Cost&quot;!&lt;br /&gt;
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We might not be in a position to fix the responsibility for commditisation of food,but, we can fix the responsibility for commoditisation of water and future commoditisation of air. This can surely be attributed&amp;nbsp;to incessant industrialisation&amp;nbsp;and madness for growth which leads to pollution. I feel that these would have been the reasons for food commoditisation as well,but, would prefer refraining from being judgemental.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at the current scenario,we can say,faster the rate of&amp;nbsp; growth,faster will be the commoditisation. Also, in the same lines,&quot;if the rebellion in the period of food insecurity can be so fierce,imagine its ferocity when a man gets devoid of water and air&quot;.Also, if time for commoditisation of water is comparable to the rate of growth then,imagine how fast will we commoditise water and air. Thus, we can judge how far are we from trouble! Is this what we mean by growth and development? I would like to end with a famous north american saying:- &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b style=&quot;mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span lang=&quot;EN-CA&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &#39;Times New Roman&#39;,&#39;serif&#39;;&quot;&gt;“Only when the last tree has been felled, the last river poisoned and the last fish caught, man will know, that he cannot eat money”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Note:- I am not a growth and development cynic. But, i find these issues genuine enough to be thought about.</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/feeds/8622619455786950494/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/09/food-water-and-air.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/8622619455786950494'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8567584661955315382/posts/default/8622619455786950494'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://atreya-eccentric.blogspot.com/2010/09/food-water-and-air.html' title='Food Water and Air Economics'/><author><name>Atreya</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00782413270566171669</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_QgXDD6ovEpiHhvsA5ljXnoTalNYBDGqpk1ZQfOupYyyvz-0h3zlPMbhdgB8olQjmEOU41PwrsKgrbSjJDSVQrNcBc7kem8deMb37A4PO3ZcQEa_4if928TeEXJUGvKk/s220/165123_10150118053247754_639227753_7774583_2493783_n.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry></feed>