WorldBirds

2016-04-16T16:30:00.001+01:00

On Tour

My aim is to travel from the most Westerly point in Europe to the most Easterly point in Asia.

I am starting at the Thames Head on the 2nd January 2016, my ferry crossing is from Portsmouth to Caen on the 5th January.

My Family are coming to see me off we will have a good breakfast before saying our goodbyes.-

Tuesday 5th

Great crossing, smoothest ever didn't feel like you were on a ferry most of the time. Stayed close to Caen for the night.

Wednesday.

Very dull raining had a short walk, In the early hours of the morning I saw a Short eared Owl. Drove to Near Nantes. Rained most of the day.

Thursday

Found out that Calor gas is only available in the UK, took most of the morning to sort it. I now have a better alternative which is on sale in France, Spain and Portugal.

stayed the night near Arcachon, Saw a Sparrow hawk take a wood pigeon, Red Kite.

Friday. Stayed near Biarritz

Brought some mobile Data (not a good buy) Travelled though some fabulous country side and stayed near Jaca. Ate a great fish curry for dinner.

Saturday

North of Jaca in the Parque Natural Valles Occidentales. The Geology of the area is fantastic Some rock strata almost upright. the valley where I'm staying was glacial.

Rock Thrush, Red Kite Rock Bunting & Citril Finch

Poor shot of a Rock Bunting

Sunday

A new meaning for stuck in Spain. Not a strike at the airport. Van was between a rock and a hard place. I couldn't go forward or back. A sheep farmer was kind enough to help by moving his car & opening his gate so that I could turn around. He the watched me out of an incredibly tight spot.

Rained until 16.00 hours

Saw griffin Vulture, Red Kite, Golden Eagle,

Found a great place to stop for a while just outside Jaca. At the Repsol garage take the exit after Pamplona which is the mountain road to Huesca. After about 8K turn left.

Monday

European Badger, Rain most of the day.

Tuesday

More rain. Griffin Vultures, Lammergeier,

Wednesday

Jaca to Sierra de Guadarrema, White Stork 100+ European Crane many hundreds. Griffin & Black Vulture,

Thursday

Sierra de Guadarrema Griffin & Black Vulture, Cattle Egret, Stayed overnight at Terazone.

Friday

Sierra de Gredos Arenas Imperial Eagle, Booted Eagle.

Sat

Sierra de Gredos Arenas to Portugal. Zebreira. Black Redstart, Hoopoe, Azure winged Magpie many. Crested Lark. Marsh Harrier,

A wonderful end to the day with my new family & friends at the Cafe Pimba. Only place for miles for Wifi and a friendlier place would be even harder to find.

Sunday A beautiful start

White Backed Woodpecker, Marsh Harrier, Black Redstart, Hoopoe, Azure winged Magpie many. Crested Lark.
Monday
European Badger, Rain most of the day.
Tuesday
More rain. Griffin Vultures, Lammergeier,
Wednesday

White Backed Woodpecker, Marsh Harrier, Black Redstart, Hoopoe, Azure winged Magpie many. Crested Lark.

Sunday
A new meaning for stuck in Spain. Not a strike at the airport. Van was between a rock and a hard place. I couldn't go forward or back. A sheep farmer was kind enough to help by moving his car & opening his gate so that I could turn around. He the watched me out of an incredibly tight spot.
Rained until 16.00 hours
Saw griffin Vulture, Red Kite, Golden or Greater Spotted Eagle
Found a great place to stop for a while just outside Jaca. At the Repsol garage take the exit after Pamplona which is the mountain road to Huesca. After about 8K turn left too
Monday 18th Sad to leave Zebreira. So many wonderful friends. Drove around Tagus International, Park Natural. Until about 2 o'clock, Egyptian vultures, Griffin, Thekla Lark, Orphean warbler, Back Redstart, Whinchat, Spanish Sparrows. Travelled towards the coast. My first Montagu's Harrier.
Tuesday 19th
Elisa'a birthday. Happy birthday
Moved on in the rain & then fog, which cleared in late afternoon. In the estuary at Figueira da Foz there was Greater Flamingo, Spoonbill, Little Egret, Spotted Redshank, Curlew,
Wednesday arrived at Cote da Roca. Spent the evening at a lovely restaurant Refugio Da Roca. The English speaking staff made it a pleasant evening. My thanks to Fredericka for the education about Portuguese Wines & spirits. Torrential rain in the night, hoping for a better day tommorow.
Thursday
Tagus estuary.

Flamingo, Dunlin, Common Sandpiper, Ruddy Turnstone, Avocet, Common Waxbill, Hoopoe, Green Finch.

Friday

Remained at Alcochete

Avocet, Black winged Stilt, Redshank, Greenshank, Dunlin, Common Sandpiper, Hoopoe, Sardinian Warbler, Barn Swallows, (Arived a week earlier. Greater Flamingo.

Sat

Trilhos Interpretativos ||Salinas Do Samouco

Kentish Plover, Avocet, Black Winged Stilt, Greenshank, Dunlin, Common Sandpiper, Hoopoe, Sardinian Warbler, Barn Swallows, www.salinadosamouco.pt.

Moved on to Alto Alentejo Evora to Beja. Hoopoe, Calandra Lark, Zitting Cisticola, Water Pipit. Spotless Starling, Black Shouldered Kite, Red Kite, Common Buzzard, Crested Lark. More Goldfinch than I have ever seen, somr flocks exceeding a hundred birds, Serin.

Sunday 24th Beja to Badajoz, White & Black Stork, Red-legged Partridge, Woodchat & Great-grey Shrike, Aure-winged Magpie, Scops Owl, 3 o'clock in the morning at Elvas.

Monday25th Worked the same area with misty conditions little oportunity for photos, White Stork, Red-legged Partridge, Woodchat & Great-grey Shrike, Aure-winged Magpie, Crested & Calandra Lark

Tuesday 26th Continued to look for Bustards with no luck, White Stork, Red-legged Partridge, Woodchat & Great-grey Shrike, Aure-winged Magpie, Crested & Calandra Lark, Common Quail, Serin, Linnet, Goldfinch, Red Kite, Buzzards, Kestrel. Drove back to Zebraira. Missed a turning and my phone died so I hadn't got a good map.

I stopped at a Bar-Restaurant Got directions a plate of chicken, sausage, bread & 2 glasses of port, all at no cost. We, inspite of language difficulties, had a great laugh. They also have wifi. I learnt that Piri-piri not only tastes good it restores your ardour.

Wednesday 27th

Had lunch at the above, which was superb, Moved up into North Portugal.

Thursday

Friday

Saturday Montagues Harriers, loads of Hoopoe, Thousands of Larks, Finches includind Citrel, Golden & Green Plover, Griffin & Egyption Vultures, Red Kite, Vitting Cisticola.

Sunday Stunning scenery, some great birds 4 Montagues Harriers, loads of Hoopoe, Thousands of Larks, Finches includind Citrel, Golden & Green Plover, Griffin & Egyption Vultures, Red Kite,

February

Monday

Tuesday

There were a huge number of Griffins, More than I have ever seen.

Wednesday 3rd Feb

Conon del Rio Lobos

Often overlooked by birders but a great place for photographing Griffin Vul;tures.

Thursday 4th Feb in Jaca Moter trouble went to Supermercado then decided to find a garage, 2 doors away found a Fiat dealer, on the Pamlona Rd. They were excellent and reasonable. By 5.30 o'clock I was away.

Friday started with me still sorting things out but by 11 a.m. I was on my way towards Andora.

Taken just outside Foradada del Tosca on the N260 Lammergeier

Other birds, Rock Thrush, Crested and Calandra Lark, Red Kite, Egyption & Griffin Vultures.

Saturday

Travelled from Campo through the Port de la Bonaigue, and on to 30k south of sort. Not many birds but stunning scenery'

Sleet then rain fell heavily all night, I guessed that it would fall as snow on higher ground. I was right.

Sunday.

I decided to drive over the Port de la Bonaigue, in daylight but it was closed if you hadn't got snow chains. So I continued to Sort and turned off on the road to Vilamur. As I headed over the pass light snow fell and snow was encoaching onto the road. Later black ice was visible and I hankered for a warmer climate. There were a number of abandoned vehicles at the top of the pass. A car passed me in the opposite direction and there was a loud bang. I knew straight away it hadn't hit me. A second later I realised it was the wind. Snow blustered all around me and for a few seconds it was complete white out.

	I don't know what the temperature was but with the high wind the chill factor was severe. My tee shirt wasn't appropriate. I didn't stay outside for many seconds. This is my first selfie and I'm sure most people will hope it's my last.
The conditions worsened as I moved away from the summit. There was now more snow and black ice and as the road inclined steeply packed snow covered the surface. I kept the revs steady and managed to keep going. The road then descended quickly which kept my speed to a minimum. I decided to leave Andorra for a few weeks to warm up a tad. I have travelled to south of Barcelona near Tarragona.

No huge catfish but at least I finally got a photo of the Black Redstart.

Xerta is a wonderful friendly place, I met the Mayor who is only 29 years old. A place no birdler or angler should miss, but much more a great place for any holiday maker. The friendly ex-pats in the community make it a great place for anyone wanting to live in spain. Close to the coast, mountains and the beautiful river Ebro right on your doorstep.

Thursday A shopping day
Travelled to Flix on the C12 to buy some fishing tackle.
Had to wait a couple of hours. Spent the time in a very pleasant bar called Cafe de Mari Talking to a very pleasant young lady behind the bar..
Birds seen today, Three toed Treecreeper, Sparrow hawk, Black Redstart, Spotless Starlings.
Friday
Invited to Manolo Bar for a Meal with some off the local Brits. All the food was good but the Paella was outstanding. A 4 course meal for 10 Euros.
Saturday Derik an Austrailian living in Spain repaired my Fridge, what a great guy.
Saturday.
A trip into the local mountains was stunning and this immature Black Redstart was a star, I showed no fear and was happy to pose. It was great to be driven and I thank Brian for taking the time and trouble to take me.

Imm Black Redstart

Sunday Lesser Kestrels

Common Sandpiper

The press didn't find all of Boris's water cannon.

Overlooking Xerta

Manolo y pili

Brian & Ann	Terry

Imperial Eagle

Greater Flamingo Ebro Delta

What made me smile.

If only the fish were as keen on halibut pellets.

The Kingfisher is a regular companion.

This Iberian Ibex was about a mile away.

A new species for me.

Thank you amanda for the card I've used it as a link to your web site.

http://www.galeriadebenifallet.com/

Amanda I Hope your career continues to soar.

After some great days in and around xerta, I'm leaving for Barcelona. Brian as ever helped by giving me a lift to Tortosa. First night in Barcalona was great superb company and great food and drink.

Sardinian Warbler etc in Parc de Montjuic

A new bird for me Monk Parakeet.

The more familiar Ring-necked Parakeet.

Some stunning architecture.

You can enjoy a leisurely walk.

This church is near Carrer de Valencia.

Lucky to have survived four days in Barcelona without a hang over.

Had a great time with Akshey, Komal & my new friend Oz.

Met some interesting Nigerian gentlemen. 26/02/2016

Last day in Xerta

Crag Martin

March

I have a lot to do before I can do this report but I must mention some wonderful people and places.

Rock Thrush's (Genus Monticola) Edit complete

2015-05-19T10:59:00.001+01:00

COMMON NAME	SCIENTIFIC NAME	STATUS
Forest Rock-Thrush	Monticola sharpei	Least Concern

Amber Mountain Rock-Thrush	Monticola erythronotus	Endangered

Benson's Rock-Thrush	Monticola sharpei bensoni	Merged with 6247 F R T

Littoral Rock-Thrush	Monticola imerina	Least Concern

Cape Rock-Thrush	Monticola rupestris	Least Concern

Sentinel Rock-Thrush	Monticola explorator	Least Concern

Short-toed Rock-Thrush	Monticola brevipes	Least Concern

Transvaal Rock-Thrush	Monticola pretoriae	Sub- species

Miombo Rock-Thrush	Monticola angolensis	Least Concern

Rufous-tailed Rock-Thrush	Monticola saxatilis	Least Concern

Little Rock-Thrush	Monticola rufocinereus	Least Concern

Blue-capped Rock-Thrush	Monticola cinclorhynchus	Least Concern

White-throated Rock-Thrush	Monticola gularis	Least Concern

Chestnut-bellied Rock-Thrush	Monticola rufiventris	Least Concern

Blue Rock-Thrush	Monticola solitarius	Least Concern

Pittidae

2015-02-25T17:19:00.002+00:00

Pittidae - Passeriformes.

Passeriformes. .

Non-Passeriformes.

Superfamilia - Pittoidea

Photo January 31, 2009 by wokoti © all rights reserved	Slideshow courtesy The Friends Of Worldbirds © all rights reserved	Photo by Michael Gillam © all rights reserved

World No	Common Name	Scientific Name	Status	Taxon
3968	Eared Pitta	Anthocincla phayrei	Least Concern	TSN: 711470
3969	Blue-naped Pitta	Hydrornis nipalensis	Least Concern	TSN: 562238
3970	Blue-rumped Pitta	Hydrornis soror	Least Concern	TSN: 562245
3971	Rusty-naped Pitta	Hydrornis oatesi	Least Concern	TSN: 562240
3972	Schneider's Pitta	Hydrornis schneideri	Vulnerable	TSN: 562243
3973	Giant Pitta	Hydrornis caerulea	Near Threatened	TSN: 562224
3974	Blue Pitta	Pitta cyanea	Least Concern	TSN: 562225
3975	Javan Banded Pitta	Hydrornis guajana	Least Concern	TSN: 711668 -
	Malayan banded pitta	Hydrornis irena	Near Threatened	TSN: 711669
	Bornean banded pitta	Hydrornis schwaneri	Least Concern	TSN: 711671
3976	Bar-bellied Pitta	Pitta elliotii	Least Concern	TSN: 562228
3977	Gurney's Pitta	Pitta gurneyi	Endangered	TSN: 562232
3978	Blue-headed Pitta	Pitta baudii	Vulnerable	TSN: 562222
3979	Hooded Pitta	Pitta sordida	Least Concern	TSN: 562244 -
3980	Ivory-breasted Pitta	Pitta maxima	Least Concern	TSN: 562235
3981	Superb Pitta	Pitta superba	Endangered	TSN: 562247
3982	Azure-breasted Pitta	Pitta steerii	Vulnerable	TSN: 562246
3983	Whiskered Pitta	Pitta kochi	Least Concern	TSN: 562234
	Sulawesi Pitta	Pitta celebensis	No Data	TSN: 711675
3984	Red-bellied Pitta	Pitta erythrogaster	Least Concern	NR
	Papuan Pitta	Pitta macklotii	No data	NR
3985	Sula Pitta	Pitta dohertyi	Near Threatened	TSN: 711678
3986	Blue-banded Pitta	Pitta arcuata	Least Concern	TSN: 711471
3987	Garnet Pitta	Pitta granatina	Near Threatened	TSN: 711699
3988	Black-crowned Pitta	Pitta venusta	Vulnerable	TSN: 562248
3989	African Pitta	Pitta angolensis	Least concern	TSN: 562220
3990	Green-breasted Pitta	Pitta reichenowi	Least concern	TSN: 562242
3991	Indian Pitta	Pitta brachyura	Least concern	TSN: 562223
3992	Fairy Pitta	Pitta nympha	Vulnerable	TSN: 562239
3993	Blue-winged Pitta	Pitta moluccensis	Least concern	TSN: 562237
3994	Mangrove Pitta	Pitta megarhyncha	Near Threatened	TSN: 562236
3995	Elegant Pitta	Pitta elegans	Least concern	TSN: 711721
3996	Rainbow Pitta	Pitta iris	Least concern	TSN: 562233
3997	Noisy Pitta	Pitta versicolor	Least concern	TSN: 562249
3998	Black-faced Pitta	Pitta anerythra	Least concern	TSN: 562219
	Black-and-crimson Pitta	Pitta ussheri	Near Threatened	TSN: 711700

2015-02-19T14:37:00.001+00:00

What type of person could do this.

Blue crane massacre

February 16 2015 at 07:27pm
By Norma Wildenboer Comment on this story

Kimberley - In a massive blow to the population of South Africa’s national bird, between 200 and a thousand blue cranes have been poisoned, allegedly by a well-known Northern Cape farmer.

The farmer, from the Richmond district in the Northern Cape, allegedly poisoned the birds over a period of three years since 2012.

While his reasons for the alleged poisonings are still unclear, the birds were apparently attracted to newly planted fields and pivots on his farm, which is designated as a sheep and cattle farm, further raising the possible contravention of land use and irrigation development laws by the farmer.

Neighbours on Monday said the “illegal” irrigation pivot went into operation in 2012, when the first carcasses were found. It now appears as if the poisoning continued until recently.

According to reports, farm workers were instructed to dip corn in a poison called Temic, also known as “Two Step” or Aldicarb, to deliberately poison the birds. The workers then had to collect the carcasses of the dead birds and bury them in porcupine and aardvark holes.

While the total number of carcasses found is believed to be around 200, sources on Monday revealed that the number might be closer to a thousand.

Some of the carcasses that were discovered after the alleged poisoning. Picture: SuppliedDiamond Fields Advertiser

The owner of the farm could face a myriad of charges if found guilty of deliberate poisoning, including contravening animal protection, nature conservation, environmental management, land use and poison management legislation, which includes the Northern Cape Provincial Conservation Act and the National Environmental Management Biodiversity Act.

Dr Gerhard Verdoorn, who was on Monday busy with the investigation into the alleged “mass murders” of the national bird, said he would be conducting toxicology reports on some of the carcasses to determine what poison was used to kill the birds.

“I don’t want to believe that this is true but all evidence so far points to the fact that hundreds of blue cranes were deliberately poisoned,” Verdoorn said.

He said that the misuse of any form of Aldicarb (registered in South Africa by Bayer Crop Science until 2012) was a serious crime under the Fertilizers, Farm Feeds, Agricultural Remedies and Stock Remedies Act.

“It is prohibited to use any insecticide for any other use than what is indicated on the label. On the label there is no indication for its use on birds and such action therefore makes it a criminal offence,” Verdoorn said.

He further stated that the poisoning of any animal without a permit was in contravention of nature conservation laws in all provinces.

He requested that any information that could assist in the investigation be relayed to him on 082 446 8946.

Various agricultural and environmental groups on Monday condemned the alleged incident and expressed disappointment at the “cruel and deliberate mass murder” of the blue cranes.

Agri Northern Cape on Monday said it regretted the unfortunate loss of the blue cranes and “condemned in the strongest terms possible the illegal killing of any wildlife”.

A concerned resident from the Richmond area said on Monday that the incident impacted “substantially” on the conservation of blue cranes in the Northern Cape because the area had one of the largest number of blue cranes in their natural habitat in the world.

“This grouping was one of the largest in a single area. It is a serious blow to the blue crane population as there are less blue cranes left than there are rhinos. Around 20 years ago there were about 100 000 and today there are less than 20 000,” the resident said.

The blue crane (Anthropoides paradiseus) is currently listed as vulnerable in the Eskom Red Data Book of South Africa, Lesotho and Swaziland and the 2010 International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources (IUCN)’s Red List.

The central Karoo population of the south-eastern region of the Northern Cape is one of South Africa’s three blue crane strongholds.

No expense should be spared solving this heinous crime. Harsh penalties should be handed out.

They are fabulous birds and this is an awful tragedy.

http://worldbirds.eu/abcb/blue_crane.htm

sameera alkhalifah - super shot studio

2014-01-23T08:39:00.001+00:00

Goodbye old friend

2012-02-23T14:54:00.002+00:00

We have closed worldbirds.awardspace.com forever. It was only there to redirect people to the new address http://worldbirds.eu.
Some low life implanted some malware on the site which caused a lot of bother. Well they wont be able to do it again. Please support every effort to stop these corrupt cretinous criminals and put them where they belong.

Socotra

2011-05-18T12:12:00.004+01:00

We now have an image of every bird on Socotra Island.
A great place for seeing some rarities.Birds like Somali Starling, endemics like Socotra Starling
We are also well on the way to finishing the Tanzanian edit.

Newaddress

2011-05-15T17:15:00.004+01:00

All updates are at the following address.
http://worldbirds.blogspot.com/
Sorry for any inconvenience.

Bird Calls

2009-02-16T09:23:00.001+00:00

With the held of xeno-canto we are putting sound to as many birds as possible. If you have any recordings you would like us to use please e-mail them to be,

Common Snipe

2009-02-16T08:52:00.000+00:00

Happy new year

2009-01-07T09:02:00.001+00:00

Hi our targets for 2009 will appear shortly

Trinidad and Tobago

2008-08-26T09:54:00.001+01:00

Trinidads only endemic bird the Trinidad Piping-Guan

We still need an image, photo or video, of the Chapman's Swift can you please help

Protect our Scottish Birds of Prey.

2008-08-15T10:26:00.015+01:00

Quote from MAHATMA GANDHI
"The world can provide for all mans needs but not all mans greed".

This is been proven correct time and time again.
Mindless people exterminated the Osprey, White-tailed Sea-Eagle and almost saw off the Hen Harrier.
In Scotland it has been proven that available food governs grouse population, not predation.
Two scientists have called for a study into limiting the numbers of harriers.
This will not effect the number of grouse, this has been proven correct time and time again. How dare they suggest killing these magnificent birds especially as data is already available proving the futility of their idea. I thought scientists were supposed to look at facts before making assumptions.
We are used to scientist affiliated to the oil industry saying global warming isn't happening.
It will not satisfy any mans needs and sadly it wont even satisfy any man's greed.
If it was true that predation causes low grouse numbers we should ban shooting.

Hong Kong list complete

2008-08-14T20:24:00.003+01:00

Another thank you to everyone who has helped or contributed to the list. A special thanks to Charles Lam who has been a solid supporter since I started the project. As well as his great photos on Flickr he also has some great videos. http://uk.youtube.com/user/kclama

Japan

2008-08-12T09:10:00.002+01:00

This week we have completed the Japanese list. Thank you to all contributors and a big thank you to Akshay Dashrath who has done a lot of research and found many images.

Putting Mexico on the map

2008-08-06T06:53:00.007+01:00

San Blas Jay
Mexico is a marvellous place for birding, it has 1086 species including 108 endemics. We are putting on lists of all the regions, courtesy Denis Lepage.
Thanks to all who have contributed we now need very few species to complete all the lists in the region. If you can help fill in the gaps please contact us.

New-Zealand

2008-07-11T08:02:00.002+01:00

Thanks to all our contributers we now have an image of every New-Zealand bird. Special thanks to the New-Zealand Government and in particular Ferne at the New-Zealand wildlife service.

Tasmanian Birds

2008-06-29T15:47:00.007+01:00

2008-04-04T20:17:00.003+01:00

Barn owl

This Week On WorldBirds

2008-02-29T21:14:00.006+00:00

British Isles Complete
This week we have completed the list of most European Countries and now only need 3 species to complete Russia. The bird of the week for me probably because I have spent so much time looking for it, is the Caucasian Snowcock.

We have also got many other great photos from the Middle East, Asia and South America. Some wonderful birds have also been added to the Philippines list. Hope you enjoy the web site there are now well over 7000 pages to browse through.
Have a good week, I'm of in search of the Dartford Warbler.
Keith

It has been a great week at WorldBirds, I have made some great contacts and made new friends.
The Antarctic mainland list is complete and many of the Island lists are nearing completion. Thank you to everyone that has Contributed. The Ciconiiformes order is almost complete and the Answeriiformes order is complete.
I'm often asked what is my favourite bird, I don't have one but my favourite bird name is the Wandering Whisting Duck

Photo July 1, 2007 by wodjamiff © all rights reserved
We can now boast over 6300 species but my target foy 2008 is to get to over 8000 so I need all the help I can get.
Good birding and please keep sending the photos.

I downloaded Sharepoint from Microsoft. The result was a disaster it screwed the website theme, I lost all bullets and line breaks and the page background was alterred. The © symbol disappeared on over six thousand pages.
It took me almost a whole day to correct this. I am no longer taking part in the Sharepoint evaluation.
It looks a great program in you are starting a web site from scratch.
The rest of the week I have spent doing some Caribbean lists and finding images I needed to complete them.
We have had a great response and received many photos. http://worldbirds.awardspace.com/caribbean_and_west_indes.htm
We will be doing more work in this area next week.
10/3/2008
We have done some work on the Colombian list and added many South American Species. http://worldbirds.awardspace.com/colombia.htm
We have many more photos to add which will be done over the next few days.
My favourite photo of the week is http://worldbirds.awardspace.com/whitethroated_dipper.htm by Vitor Louzan
In the first week since installing a counter we have had over 1800 hits on the WorldBird Website.
I wish you all good birding next week.

Spring

2008-02-29T20:47:00.000+00:00

Spring is here and birds are migrating, birders all over the world are waiting for the first warbler or swallow. If you see a bird earlier than normal or if they arrive at there normal time, please post the info including species, date and location.