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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 24.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;19 FLEW
OVER THE&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 24.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;CUCKOO'S NEST&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The City of Jacksonville received
top honors from the Florida Chapter of the&amp;nbsp;American Planning Association
(APA) for its 2030 Mobility Plan. The APA’s Executive Committee will present
the city with the Award of Excellence in the Best Practices category at an
awards ceremony in Palm Beach.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The 2030 Mobility Plan is an
innovative response to the 2009 revisions to Florida’s Growth Management laws.
It is a long-range plan that links land use and transportation, establishing a
tiered mobility fee system. The Plan establishes acceptable levels of service
for transportation on city roadways, sidewalks, railways and bike paths.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The plan actually reduces the cost
of new development compared to the old system, and it guides development toward
infill projects where little or no fee would be assessed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The plan is about a fair
"concurrency" system, and integrating transportation and land use
development for fiscally sustainable growth patterns. &amp;nbsp;The mobility fee
serves as the funding source to implement these concepts. &amp;nbsp;With
Jacksonville's revenue sources shrinking every year, the mobility fee provides
the city with a fair path to invest in itself, stimulating job creation,
quality of life enhancements, and economic growth in the process.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;First the cost of vehicle miles
traveled (VMT) was calculated which we'll call item 'A'. Step two was time
consuming, but it ascertained the typical VMT within each of mobility district,
item 'B'. Finally the projected daily vehicle trips generated by the new
development project 'C' are calculated, the&amp;nbsp;equation&amp;nbsp;looks like this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.0pt;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Arial; font-size: large;"&gt;INSANITY: Doing the same thing&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt; Jacksonville is one of the
nation's leaders in market rate multifamily construction, infill continues in
Riverside and more development pops up around St. Johns Town Center and River
City Marketplace every day. But these market rate economic positives are not
enough for some, especially when the public could be hoodwinked into paying for
developer created sprawl.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.0pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The North Florida Builders
Association has 'worked with' city councilman Richard Clark to have the
citizens of the city pay for all infrastructure improvements effectively
subsidizing developers from the public purse. &amp;nbsp;Despite community
opposition, Councilman Richard Clark has filed a bill in favor of the City of
Jacksonville implementing a 3-year tax increase in the form of a mobility fee
moratorium.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.0pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Lobbyists have been hired, and
false claims and accusations are flying hot and heavy. One councilman claiming
during the first&amp;nbsp;moratorium we only lost $3 Million dollars that could
have gone to improvements, but he added you can't do anything with $3 million.
What he didn't say is those waivers have now past the $5 million dollar mark,
and will likely top out somewhere around $27 million dollars. Ah, but what can
be done with just $27 million?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.0pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;They have claimed the Mobility Fee
is just to fund a couple of bike trails, and that the entire fee would be
consumed by just 3 projects. None of which is true.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.0pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;The builders have produced this
graphic to 'prove' their impoverished condition to the city council&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;OVER THE
CUCKOO'S NEST&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;WE GO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;What they didn't say to our 19
member city council is that a full 40% of the projects the builders association
has identified as 'endangered' by the fee wouldn't need to pay a dime, but it
appears our politicians are drinking the cool aid. It also appears that the
fear tactics may have fooled Television NEWS 4 by this slight of hand. The
builders are asking us for a 30 million dollar a year tax increase, and that
increase is only going to grow.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Ennis Davis (co-author of the
Mobility Plan) recently said "A full blown moratorium that basically
subsidizes nationwide expansions of 7-11, Waffle House, and Family Dollar. Our
overall annual city budget hovers around $2 billion.&amp;nbsp; How on earth can it
make sense in anyone's view that a company which enjoyed $77 billion in sales
globally last year can't open in Jacksonville because we require them to cover
their negative impact." Jacksonville isn't so big or so important that we
will suddenly attracts hundreds of new businesses because of a token discount
on our dirt, but you can bet if we looked more like Palm Beach and less like
Philips Highway we'd have the luxury of picking and choosing. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Absolutely any national company
desiring to locate in Jacksonville has already got a line item in their
expansion plans to cover any 'impact fees'.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;A HUGE HIDDEN
TAX INCREASE&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;CLOKED AS A FEE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 18.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;MORATORIUM
'FOR' DEVELOPMENT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Imagine the moratorium passes for 3
more years, and imagine during that amount of time we get no more or no less
waivers of the mobility fee then the total amount of waivers during the first
year 'trial moratorium.'&amp;nbsp; This is how it cooks down:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Value of waivers issued for the
past one-year moratorium - $27,000,000 one year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Total value of waivers to be issued
for 3 more years (assuming no changes +/- in our rate of growth) - $27,000,000
x 3 years =&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;$81,000,000 million dollars.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Add all four moratorium years
together and you get - $108,000,000 million dollars.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Take $108,000,000 and divide by the
current city population - 822,000&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;ANSWER - $131.38.&amp;nbsp; This
represents an infrastructure tax to every man, woman and child in the city of
$131.38, or $2,102.08 for a family of 4, for four years, which means we get a
four year tax increase of $525.52 per year for our average family just to
provide needed infrastructure.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;SPECIAL THANKS TO:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;metrojacksonville.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Mr. Ennis Davis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Mr. Bill Killingsworth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 13.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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  &lt;w:DoNotPromoteQF/&gt;
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  &lt;w:LidThemeComplexScript&gt;X-NONE&lt;/w:LidThemeComplexScript&gt;
  &lt;w:Compatibility&gt;
   &lt;w:BreakWrappedTables/&gt;
   &lt;w:SnapToGridInCell/&gt;
   &lt;w:WrapTextWithPunct/&gt;
   &lt;w:UseAsianBreakRules/&gt;
   &lt;w:DontGrowAutofit/&gt;
   &lt;w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/&gt;
   &lt;w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/&gt;
   &lt;w:DontFlipMirrorIndents/&gt;
   &lt;w:OverrideTableStyleHps/&gt;
   &lt;w:UseFELayout/&gt;
  &lt;/w:Compatibility&gt;
  &lt;m:mathPr&gt;
   &lt;m:mathFont m:val="Cambria Math"/&gt;
   &lt;m:brkBin m:val="before"/&gt;
   &lt;m:brkBinSub m:val="&amp;#45;-"/&gt;
   &lt;m:smallFrac m:val="off"/&gt;
   &lt;m:dispDef/&gt;
   &lt;m:lMargin m:val="0"/&gt;
   &lt;m:rMargin m:val="0"/&gt;
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   &lt;m:wrapIndent m:val="1440"/&gt;
   &lt;m:intLim m:val="subSup"/&gt;
   &lt;m:naryLim m:val="undOvr"/&gt;
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  LatentStyleCount="276"&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="0" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Normal"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="heading 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 3"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 4"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 5"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 7"/&gt;
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="9" QFormat="true" Name="heading 9"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="39" Name="toc 1"/&gt;
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="10" SemiHidden="false"
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="1" Name="Default Paragraph Font"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="11" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Subtitle"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="22" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Strong"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="20" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Emphasis"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="59" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Table Grid"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Placeholder Text"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="1" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="No Spacing"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="60" SemiHidden="false"
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="61" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light List"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="62" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Grid"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="63" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="64" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="65" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="66" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="67" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="69" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 3"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="70" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Dark List"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="71" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="72" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="73" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="60" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Shading Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="61" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light List Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="62" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Grid Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="63" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 1 Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="64" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 2 Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="65" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 1 Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Revision"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="34" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="List Paragraph"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="29" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Quote"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="30" SemiHidden="false"
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="66" SemiHidden="false"
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="67" SemiHidden="false"
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false"
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="69" SemiHidden="false"
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  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="71" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="72" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="73" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid Accent 1"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="60" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Shading Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="61" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light List Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="62" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Grid Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="63" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 1 Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="64" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 2 Accent 2"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 1 Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="66" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 2 Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="67" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 1 Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 2 Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="69" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 3 Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="70" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Dark List Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="71" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="72" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="73" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid Accent 2"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="60" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Shading Accent 3"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="61" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light List Accent 3"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="62" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Grid Accent 3"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 1 Accent 3"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 2 Accent 3"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="65" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 1 Accent 3"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 1 Accent 3"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 2 Accent 3"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading Accent 3"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 3"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light List Accent 4"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Grid Accent 4"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 1 Accent 4"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 2 Accent 4"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 1 Accent 4"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 2 Accent 4"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 3 Accent 4"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 4"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light List Accent 5"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Grid Accent 5"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 1 Accent 5"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 2 Accent 5"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="65" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 1 Accent 5"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 2 Accent 5"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="67" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 1 Accent 5"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 2 Accent 5"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 3 Accent 5"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Dark List Accent 5"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="71" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading Accent 5"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="72" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 5"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="73" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid Accent 5"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="60" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Shading Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="61" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light List Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="62" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Light Grid Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="63" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 1 Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="64" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Shading 2 Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="65" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 1 Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="66" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium List 2 Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="67" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 1 Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="68" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 2 Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="69" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Medium Grid 3 Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="70" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Dark List Accent 6"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Shading Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="72" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful List Accent 6"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" Name="Colorful Grid Accent 6"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="19" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Subtle Emphasis"/&gt;
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   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Intense Emphasis"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="31" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Subtle Reference"/&gt;
  &lt;w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="32" SemiHidden="false"
   UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Intense Reference"/&gt;
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&lt;!--[if gte mso 10]&gt;
&lt;style&gt;
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table.MsoNormalTable
 {mso-style-name:"Table Normal";
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 mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;
 mso-style-noshow:yes;
 mso-style-priority:99;
 mso-style-parent:"";
 mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
 mso-para-margin:0in;
 mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;
 mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
 font-size:12.0pt;
 font-family:Cambria;
 mso-ascii-font-family:Cambria;
 mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;
 mso-hansi-font-family:Cambria;
 mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}
&lt;/style&gt;
&lt;![endif]--&gt;



&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;

&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;
&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;!--[if !mso]&gt;
&lt;style&gt;
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
&lt;/style&gt;
&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt;
 &lt;o:OfficeDocumentSettings&gt;
  &lt;o:AllowPNG/&gt;
 &lt;/o:OfficeDocumentSettings&gt;
&lt;/xml&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;

&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt;
 &lt;w:WordDocument&gt;
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  &lt;w:Zoom&gt;0&lt;/w:Zoom&gt;
  &lt;w:TrackMoves&gt;false&lt;/w:TrackMoves&gt;
  &lt;w:TrackFormatting/&gt;
  &lt;w:PunctuationKerning/&gt;
  &lt;w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/&gt;
  &lt;w:SaveIfXMLInvalid&gt;false&lt;/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid&gt;
  &lt;w:IgnoreMixedContent&gt;false&lt;/w:IgnoreMixedContent&gt;
  &lt;w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText&gt;false&lt;/w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText&gt;
  &lt;w:DoNotPromoteQF/&gt;
  &lt;w:LidThemeOther&gt;EN-US&lt;/w:LidThemeOther&gt;
  &lt;w:LidThemeAsian&gt;JA&lt;/w:LidThemeAsian&gt;
  &lt;w:LidThemeComplexScript&gt;X-NONE&lt;/w:LidThemeComplexScript&gt;
  &lt;w:Compatibility&gt;
   &lt;w:BreakWrappedTables/&gt;
   &lt;w:SnapToGridInCell/&gt;
   &lt;w:WrapTextWithPunct/&gt;
   &lt;w:UseAsianBreakRules/&gt;
   &lt;w:DontGrowAutofit/&gt;
   &lt;w:SplitPgBreakAndParaMark/&gt;
   &lt;w:EnableOpenTypeKerning/&gt;
   &lt;w:DontFlipMirrorIndents/&gt;
   &lt;w:OverrideTableStyleHps/&gt;
   &lt;w:UseFELayout/&gt;
  &lt;/w:Compatibility&gt;
  &lt;m:mathPr&gt;
   &lt;m:mathFont m:val="Cambria Math"/&gt;
   &lt;m:brkBin m:val="before"/&gt;
   &lt;m:brkBinSub m:val="&amp;#45;-"/&gt;
   &lt;m:smallFrac m:val="off"/&gt;
   &lt;m:dispDef/&gt;
   &lt;m:lMargin m:val="0"/&gt;
   &lt;m:rMargin m:val="0"/&gt;
   &lt;m:defJc m:val="centerGroup"/&gt;
   &lt;m:wrapIndent m:val="1440"/&gt;
   &lt;m:intLim m:val="subSup"/&gt;
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&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/w6HDxU3SjnQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2013/03/19-flew-over-cuckoos-nest.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-6168598547583493944</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-11-01T23:04:34.536-04:00</atom:updated><title>AUTOMOBILES  -V-  THE ECONOMY</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RB-7Ktl3mL8/TrCtsXDUfaI/AAAAAAAAF40/pbli6TpZZas/s1600/end-road-work-now.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RB-7Ktl3mL8/TrCtsXDUfaI/AAAAAAAAF40/pbli6TpZZas/s320/end-road-work-now.png" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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More money for&amp;nbsp;constructing new roads&amp;nbsp;sounds good superficially, since road expansion 
is necessary to keep up with the growing population, and no one likes driving in 
increasingly congested traffic. But it is not as simple as that. We're talking about brand new 4 lane highways right through the middle of virgin pine forest lands. So will federal (TIGER) Transportation Investment Generating Economic Recovery, grants spent on new road construction&amp;nbsp;in Jacksonville make a difference?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;They will, but you aren't going to like it. 

Think transportation and mass transits role in the growth of our city, think of it as a choice. A recent study in the Tischler Report&amp;nbsp;was published on metrojacksonville.com, found that Florida taxpayers pay $1.39-2.45 for every tax dollar paid by a new development. However new development within our urbanized areas actually costs less because the infrastructure is already in place. &lt;br /&gt;
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Land designated as “residential” is legally entitled to roads, schools, drinking water, sewer, police, fire, playgrounds, and all the other infrastructure components that make a community.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote"&gt;
The taxes (and impact fees) paid on the new development do not cover the costs for providing it with basic infrastructure and services. The difference is paid by the rest of the community. Because new development does not pay its way, most local governments in Florida are financially upside down.
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&lt;br /&gt;Existing neighborhoods subsidize new residential development&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is possible to build a conventional railroad on existing right of ways for $4,000,000 per mile (accor&amp;nbsp; ding to Archer Western). According to Florida Department of Transportation a three lane urban arterial road with two travel lanes, and a center turn lane will cost $3,774,078.45 per mile, excluding drainage, water, sewer, electric and other services which must follow it. A 3 lane highway for the purposes of this study because that is the capacity of a single track railroad. FDOT goes on to post this highway project disclaimer:&lt;br /&gt;
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Costs of intersections/interchanges/structures over 20 feet, preliminary engineering, right of way, and construction engineering inspection are not included. The cost per centerline mile figures are based on statewide average's. They are not to be used for Work Program estimating because they are not job specific.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I am not against suburban or rural development as long as Impact fees and taxes on the home or business owners covers 100% of the cost of the sprawl, plus a contribution toward future maintenance. In other words sustainable. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;While the previous argument has little to do with the cost of mass transit, it does make the point that
we've been going in the wrong direction, with what amounts to a developer ponzi scheme. Eventually as development reaches further into the countryside the expenses become too much to bear and the whole economy collapses, note the current economic conditions. Red hot sprawling development outran our ability to sustain it and the key expense in new development is the automobile. If we learn to internalize our new developments and build on what is already in place we will  be able to continuously improve our financial conditions. And to build internally, within the urbanized areas we are talking about mass transit. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/CtZ8on1whtI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2011/11/automobiles-v-economy.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RB-7Ktl3mL8/TrCtsXDUfaI/AAAAAAAAF40/pbli6TpZZas/s72-c/end-road-work-now.png" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>8</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-7900393255959440214</guid><pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-10-30T23:18:20.205-04:00</atom:updated><title>SUNSET LIMITED, A SIMPLE SOLUTION</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
The eastern leg of the Sunset limited was fatally flawed in three ways. Some of the stations and their locations were terrible. Making a 90 degree turn from east-west to north-south at Jacksonville was an expensive waste of Amtrak's resources. Scheduling and frequency was deplorable for virtually all of the 'new' cities along it's route. &lt;br /&gt;
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I'll use the example of a department store. Imagine we built a 100,000 square foot store, with locations in each of the towns served by the eastern Sunset Limited. Next we make a decision based on a handful of nocturnal customers to open our store 3 days a week from midnight until 5 am. How long do you think we'd last? &lt;br /&gt;
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Running a daily, daylight train over this former Gulf Wind Route from New Orleans to Jacksonville would serve this market much better then the overnight schedule ever did. Amtrak proved it could run a coast to coast train, but the actual numbers making the trip beyond New Orleans in either direction was minuscule. A daylight train could serve as a second New Orleans - New York train through it's connections in Jacksonville. &lt;br /&gt;
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While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/hCAUU78xVpg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2011/10/sunset-limited-simple-solution.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>2</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-4800919776490366142</guid><pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-10-30T23:12:50.540-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida High Speed Rail Exists</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida High Speed Rail</category><title>GOOD REASONS TO KILL FLORIDA HIGH SPEED RAIL</title><description>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Just came across another  professionals article on High Speed Rail, and why he, like John Mica and  myself agrees that the Florida HSR plan was a train wreck waiting to  happen. The funniest part of all of this is the same old group of  players who brought down America's vast electric railroad, interurban  and streetcar line network is at it again. This just stresses the fact  that the first HSR rail line MUST be a smashing success. It was that  success or failure that had me communicate to the governor to kill it. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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How to salvage Obama’s high-speed rail ‘disaster’&lt;br /&gt;
Former  Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt calls the rail plan — target of a  coordinated attack by the Right — “a complete catastrophe,” and tells  where the nation should focus.&lt;br /&gt;
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With  segments of the rail plan now cancelled in Florida, Ohio, and  Wisconsin, and with some federal funding revoked by Congressional  Republicans this month, Babbitt thinks we must approach rail planning  much more strategically than the Obama administration did.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of the  president’s stated aim — provision of high-speed rail service to 80  percent of the American population in 25 years — Babbitt declared, “It’s  fantasy.”&lt;br /&gt;
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•  Routes were  poorly chosen. The Orlando-to-Tampa line — 84 miles mostly  in an Interstate highway corridor — would have run from one city that’s  “not a model of transit” to another city with the same transit  deficiency. Said Babbitt: “Frankly, it’s not surprising that the  governor of Florida [when offered 90 percent of the funds to construct  the line] turned it down.”&lt;br /&gt;
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• Goals were defined vaguely. They  were not hammered out through extensive discussion and political  brokering — activities essential, in Babbitt’s judgment, to the  program’s success.&lt;br /&gt;
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• “The president didn’t help his visionary  statement by holding up the transcontinental railroad as a model.”  One-hundred-forty million acres were distributed to railroads through  that post-Civil War enterprise, which led to the Crédit Mobilier scandal  — “one of the largest government-sponsored fraudulent ventures of all  time.”&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;NOTE: In the Federal Application there is a  question, "why build this project?" One of the several reasons given  was: "because its fun." The route was bad, the station locations worse,  ridership numbers ridiculous and it would take that train longer to  travel from Tampa to Miami then a regular Amtrak train at 90 mph on a  more direct route.  Makes you wonder if any of those planners ever drove  Alligator Alley?  Does anyone besides me smell a mouse in all of this?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Ambitious  rail plans have been subjected to a fierce campaign of disparagement in  recent months. The Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, and the  Reason Foundation have worked particularly hard to defeat the Obama rail  plan, Todorovich told the gathering of about 30 journalists from around  the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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For companies that profit from the highway system  and automobile-reliant means of transportation, the libertarian or  conservative foundations have proven to be useful torch-bearers.  SourceWatch, part of the Center for Media and Democracy, reports that  Ford Motor, General Motors, DaimlerChrysler, ExxonMobil, Chevron, Shell  Oil, and the Western States Petroleum Association have been among the  donors to the Reason Foundation. David H. Koch of Koch Industries,  once  described by the Center for Public Integrity as "the biggest oil  company you have never heard of," is a Reason trustee.&lt;br /&gt;
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SourceWatch  says Chevron, ExxonMobil, and the auto-maker Honda have been among  Heritage’s contributors, though corporate donations to Heritage are  small when compared than those made by individuals and foundations. Over  the years, Heritages backers in the foundation world have included the  Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation, the Walton Family Foundation, and  three Scaife foundations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cato, founded by Edward H. Crane and  Charles Koch, has over the years received donations from corporate  supporters including the American Petroleum Institute, ExxonMobil,  General Motors, Honda North America, Toyota, Volkswagen of America, and  Wal-Mart Stores, according to SourceWatch.&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt; NOTE:  Jacksonville's streetcar system (AND 45 OTHERS) was sold out by Motor  Transit which was a subsidiary of National City Lines which was a  subsidiary of: Firestone Tire, Standard Oil of California (now Chevron  Corporation), Phillips Petroleum (now part of ConocoPhillips), General  Motors, Mack Trucks&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nonetheless,  Todorovich thinks rail projects can gain considerable support from the  populace and some of it from Republicans who hold elective office.   After the new governor of Florida, Rick Scott, rejected $2.4 billion in  federal funds for the Orlando-Tampa rail route, 24 states, including 11  with Republican governors, applied for portions of the money that  Florida gave up.&lt;/div&gt;
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In  the case of interstate highways, “Babbitt maintained, the only way we  got clarity was through federal legislation,” and that’s the only way to  nail down a high-speed program for the Eastern seaboard&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;NOTE: Remember the Federal plan to extend the Northeast Corridor to  FLORIDA. So in the broader meaning of this is SOUTHEAST HIGH SPEED RAIL,  and Jacksonville will benefit first.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Like  Babbitt and like Rep. John Mica, the Florida Republican who chairs the  House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, Todorovich thinks “we  ought to invest first in the places with the greatest ridership ... the  greatest chance of success.”&lt;br /&gt;
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That strategy favors the Northeast  Corridor, which has been the subject of three recent studies — a  Northeast Corridor Infrastructure Master Plan prepared in May 2010 by  representatives of 12 states, Amtrak, and other entities; a separate  Amtrak design report; and a University of Pennsylvania study that was  presented to no less than Vice President Joseph Biden.&lt;/div&gt;
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On  the bright side, she noted that Rep. Mica has been bringing members of  his committee — some of whom represent rural areas — to urban locales to  improve their understanding of passenger rail networks and the places  they serve.  Babbitt’s proposal for a Northeast-focused federal rail act  is “a great idea,” she said, adding that it “would have to be matched  by federal funding.”&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt; NOTE: Which is why Orlando's location would have failed. In this country  rail travel tends to be regional and is usually a choice between a  drive or a train. So most of your passenger base must come from the area  around the stations, and that includes travelers who are staying  temporarily in the area.  If a family wants to go from Orlando to Tampa  it's a choice of driving or train, flying plays no real part in the  decision process and if the train is troublesome to get to they'll  drive. Orlando already has the PERFECT HSR station and it's found on  Church Street.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nonetheless,  Todorovich thinks rail projects can gain considerable support from the  populace and some of it from Republicans who hold elective office.   After the new governor of Florida, Rick Scott, rejected $2.4 billion in  federal funds for the Orlando-Tampa rail route, 24 states, including 11  with Republican governors, applied for portions of the money that  Florida gave up.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;NOTE: The saddest part of this story is the FACT that a  direct railroad line has existed  between Tampa Union Station and Miami  which if rebuilt to 90 mph standards would beat the socks off of a bullet train between the same two cities. Florida was in the wrong place, with the wrong train and that cost us the ball game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; So SORRY for Orlando-Tampa-Miami,  but its time for us to reopen Jacksonville Terminal and get ready for  it, because buddy, it's headed our way. Florida's most powerful  politicians seem to understand that if you are going to sell ice cubes  to Eskimos, you'll have to do it one cube at a time.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;All quotes in this post are from: &lt;a href="http://newurbannetwork.com/article/how-salvage-obama%E2%80%99s-high-speed-rail-%E2%80%98disaster%E2%80%99-14561" target="_blank"&gt;http://newurbannetwork.com/article/how-salvage-obama%E2%80%99s-high-speed-rail-%E2%80%98disaster%E2%80%99-14561&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/Z1XUUN-wM90" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2011/06/good-reasons-to-kill-florida-high-speed.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-6437647878694741178</guid><pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2010-01-15T01:22:08.250-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Orlando</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida High Speed Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Secretary of Transportation</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ray LaHood</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Jacksonville</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida Passenger Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Miami</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Tampa</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">LYNX</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">HART</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">USDOT</category><title>WHY FLORIDA HIGH SPEED RAIL WILL FAIL - PART II</title><description>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:180%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:180%;" &gt;BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2366881090104969885UEHtZu"&gt;&lt;img src="http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/26705/2366881090104969885S425x425Q85.jpg" alt="PENN CENTRAL" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Will Florida's High Speed Rail efforts crash THIS hard? Let's just say if they don't make some radical adjustments and trash the assumption that Orlando has to be the hub of a massive "hub and spokes railroad," then THIS IS where it is heading.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.webshots.com/photo/2760757530104969885drfcyE"&gt;&lt;img src="http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/29856/2760757530104969885S425x425Q85.jpg" alt="FLORIDA HSR phase 1 part 1" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;It's easy to spot the Northeast climb of the HSR route as it pulls away from Tampa, that's a heck of a way to get pointed Southeast. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Even if the entire project for Florida High Speed Rail, gets the blessing of the Federal Department of Transportation, and 100% financing, it is headed for a crash that might well bring down the whole industry. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason number 5 is not anyone's opinion about riders or ridership, it is however a story written in geography and no one short of The All Mighty could fix it. In one scenario (alternative "A") the train will run from Tampa, Northeast to Orlando, then with about a 10 degree turn, continue East to Melbourne (Space Coast Beaches).  From Melbourne the new railroad turns 90 degrees South, and would likely hug some combination of the I-95 or Florida East Coast right-of-way, all the way through Fort Pierce - West Palm Beach - Ft. Lauderdale to Miami.  Certainly no other route in the history of Florida, has ever served so many people in such a short stage length.  Population is good, high speed is good, new railroads are good, so why does this one stand out as a bad plan? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;To get to the answer one needs only to study the alternative routes from Orlando Southward to Miami.  The Second Alternative "B" would turn South at the Orlando International Airport and roughly follow the historic Florida East Coast Railways Kissimmee River Valley line along or near the Florida Turnpike Alignment all the way to West Palm Beach - Ft. Lauderdale to Miami. This is the shortest of the current planned routes from Tampa to Miami via Orlando, but it sacrifices virtually every village, town and city on the East Coast of the State, North of West Palm Beach, to accomplish it's goal, and still maintains what is for all practical purposes a 100 degree turn, a "Fatal Corner" in the middle of the railroad system. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Alternative "C" would be the slowest schedule from Orlando to Miami, but the cheapest build, following the CSX Railroad. Running from St. Petersburg - Tampa - Auburndale - Orlando International Airport, as well as a line from Alburndale southeast to Lake Wales - Sebring - West Palm Beach - Ft. Lauderdale, and Miami. It would eliminate the need for Tampa/St. Petersburg trains to pass through Disney World - Orange County Convention Center and Orlando international Airport, before heading to the lower East Coast and Miami. So ironically the slowest option for Orlando, would be the fastest option for the Tampa Bay communities, but the hard place seems to be missing all of the Beach Communities North of West Palm Beach. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.webshots.com/photo/2395363600104969885OGSFRA"&gt;&lt;img src="http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/12732/2395363600104969885S425x425Q85.jpg" alt="Florida ICE train 2008 map" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;So Far the only map that makes ANY sense, is this largely ignored 2008, ICE Train Plan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://news.webshots.com/photo/2315233650104969885VuknzH"&gt;&lt;img src="http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/42779/2315233650104969885S425x425Q85.jpg" alt="FLORIDA HSR MAP" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;4 rail lines into Orlando and they still miss the direct connection with Jacksonville, not to mention the line of the center of the State running virtually from Miami to LAKE CITY,  guess it's comforting to know Tallahassee has a sense of humor. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;It's a crazy curse to plan under but the bottom line for Florida is, by ignoring the historic travel patterns and trying to make Orlando into a railroad cross roads that it never was, has put us in a unique position. We can either build the fastest route and skip most of the cities, or, we can build through most of the cities and lose the fast train. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Due to the Fatal Corner, a high speed train that rips along at 120 mph, is still going to consume all of 4:00 hours between St. Petersburg and Miami, and 2:30 hours between Orlando and Miami alone. Since this is travel time the dwell time in the stations would have to be added in to any schedule. Leaving St. Petersburg by train, stations would be initially located in Tampa, Lakeland, Disney World, Orange County Convention Center, Orlando International Airport, Melbourne, Ft. Pierce, West Palm Beach, Ft. Lauderdale, and Miami. Dwell times of just 2 minutes per station average would add another 20 minutes to the through schedule.  A schedule of 4 hours and 20 minutes between end points via the fastest train in America can be easily trumped by a 1968 Volkswagen Micro-Bus full or hippies at 4:00 hours even, on I-75. This is easy math, because the hippies in that micro-bus won't be traveling 120 miles Northeast to go Southeast of Tampa/St. Petersburg. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2495915690104969885PEWEsG"&gt;&lt;img src="http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/45338/2495915690104969885S425x425Q85.jpg" alt="Bus Southeastern Stages" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Bus, Greyhound, La Cubana or Southeastern starts looking better and better as Florida's number one "Alternative."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Add in a fare of around $70 dollars for an end to end ticket, plus car rental, taxi or bus fare at the other end, and keeping with the Micro-Bus starts to look better and better. The time/dollar economics doesn't get any better with a simple Tampa/St. Petersubrg - Orlando trip either, because for $30 bucks, one is still going to have to get to Orlando from "Orlando!"  By the time that taxi rolls to a stop in Winter Park, Maitland or Sanford, that lone Amtrak train will be half way to Jacksonville, making the entire system, either route option A, B, or C. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The last public transportation alternative seems a mockery of the states so-called "showcase HSR system." Bottom line? $25 dollars and a Greyhound ticket will get you there faster, and Greyhound has Wi-Fi!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stay tuned as we move on to part 3 of this series, and look at Florida's surface travel patterns, historic railroad routes and gateways, as well as Southeast High Speed Rail.  Only in Part III of "WHY FLORIDA HIGH SPEED RAIL WILL FAIL."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/amtrak" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=amtrak" alt=" " /&gt;amtrak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/high%20speed%20rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=high%20speed%20rail" alt=" " /&gt;high speed rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/passenger%20rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=passenger%20rail" alt=" " /&gt;passenger rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/public%20transport" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=public%20transport" alt=" " /&gt;public transport&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=rail" alt=" " /&gt;rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/transportation" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=transportation" alt=" " /&gt;transportation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/green%20logistics" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=green%20logistics" alt=" " /&gt;green logistics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/e91LgqOb1QI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2010/01/why-florida-high-speed-rail-will-fail_14.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>2</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-7752868191761197653</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2010-01-26T23:51:00.414-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Orlando</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida High Speed Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Secretary of Transportation</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ray LaHood</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida Passenger Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Tampa</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida HSR</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">LYNX</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">HART</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">USDOT</category><title>WHY FLORIDA HIGH SPEED RAIL WILL FAIL! (PART 1) Reprint</title><description>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/dcblog/High-speed%20rail.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 300px; height: 300px;" src="http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/dcblog/High-speed%20rail.bmp" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;BIG MISTAKE, BIG, HUGE!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;PART ONE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Perhaps I'm not the most loved transportation guy in this State, but I refuse to label a clearly flawed project as a winner. Florida High Speed Rail (AS PLANNED JAN 2010) is a disaster waiting to happen. There are several reasons for this, that if corrected, would find me as the systems biggest advocate. But as promised a week ago, this article will detail why Florida High Speed Rail will fail.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.bargainvillas.co.uk/mco.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 267px; height: 267px;" src="http://www.bargainvillas.co.uk/mco.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;REASON NUMBER ONE/ORLANDO/THE ORLANDO STATION LOCATION:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The current route completely ignores Orlando and it's sprawling metropolitan area. Stretching from Deland on the north to Kissimmee on the south, over 60 miles of lineal city.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;So the high speed rail planners have the railroad from Tampa, down the center of Interstate 4, to Disney World, then curving South to the Orange County Convention Center and the planned system hub which focuses on the Orlando International Airport.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Anyone that has ever had the displeasure of driving or using transit to the Orlando Airport can tell you that shortly after inventing the "Iron Maiden," and "The Rack," both ancient torture devices were replaced by Orlando's Beach Line Turnpike, Orange Blossom Trail, Highway's 436, 17-92, I-4, and the East-West Expressway. In short, the airport using the facilities of the former McCoy Air Force Base, is in one of those proverbial impossible locations, with no clear access from any point in the city. This access problem alone should scrap the current plans. Calculate at least one full hour to drive from any point in the city to the Airport to catch a train.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2455/4007621258_f99f6582a4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 333px; height: 500px;" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2455/4007621258_f99f6582a4.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;REASON NUMBER TWO/TAMPA/IGNORING A STATION AND ITS CONNECTIONS:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Tampa. Some years ago, Florida bowed to pressure from the Tampa Bay area communities to buy the former Tampa Union Station (TUS), which sits just above the downtown on Nebraska Avenue. This classic station from the early 1900's is a compact head-house design with what were once 10 tracks and covered platforms. Amtrak still serves the station coming in from the east between I-4 and the Cross Town Expressway.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;So in their infinite wisdom, the HSR Authority, has decided a new station in the middle of a Expressway Interchange, about a dozen blocks northwest is the place for a "new" train station. This choice makes no sense at all considering the infrastructure is already in place at TUS, already connected to Amtrak and HART, and already paid for.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;REASON NUMBER THREE/IGNORING VITAL RAIL INFRASTRUCTURE:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;As the entire current project plan avoids current rail infrastructure, one cannot help but wonder if our highway centric planners in Tampa's USF/CUTR (a highway think tank that influences all Florida transportation decisions and is decidedly anti-rail) or FDOT in Tallahassee, have planned to fail? Distance from infrastructure that works, regardless of age or opinion, just for the sake of new and shinny is irresponsible in the 33Rd degree.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://i41.tinypic.com/2vubq4m.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 496px; height: 293px;" src="http://i41.tinypic.com/2vubq4m.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;REASON NUMBER FOUR/THE REAL SPRAWL RAIL:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Last but certainly not least is the routing of the entire system on I-4, then claiming it will help curb sprawl. This is a simple diversion of the truth and Tallahassee knows it. I-4 is as much as 10 miles NORTH of every community from Orlando to Tampa. While these are certainly not large cities, they have in effect filled in to make up a megalopolis. The High Speed Rail will miss Kissimmee, Davenport, Haines City, Winter Haven, Auburndale, Winston, Plant City, Dover and Mango, as well as the aforementioned Tampa Union Station/Transportation Center site.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The claim of convenient transportation just doesn't stand close scrutiny. Convenient for what? Tampa? The HSR plan misses the connections at TUS and the urbanized core making Tampa rather unlikely to break ridership records. Lakeland? Hardly, does Lakeland even have bus service that far north? Walking from the HSR to downtown in a tropical thunderstorm should be appealing. Disney? AH HA! PERFECT! How did that happen? Someone please tell me which rail dependent residents live in Disney World besides a very rich mouse? Orange County Convention Center at International Drive? Besides serving the occasional Conventioneers this station will also serve Wet and Wild, with Sea World, The Holy Land and Universal just a few miles down the road. Orlando Airport? As we've already seen, no locals are going to waste an hour driving out to OIA to catch a train that would take one hour to get to Tampa, making a two hour trip out of a ONE HOUR and 28 MINUTE CAR RIDE. Not to mention airport parking fee's and rental cars in Tampa, plus rail fare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/opinionzone/files/2009/06/opsprawl3-300x200.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 300px; height: 200px;" src="http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/opinionzone/files/2009/06/opsprawl3-300x200.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Consider that every single community along the route, will have developers quickly buy up and pave the several miles between the current town limits and I-4/HSR. They will consume thousands of acres of fragile, water short, Florida land, and their customers will demand their own stations, slowing the whole system down to a fast Amtrak-like pace. The ability of our state to set up more mindless sprawl in the name of the most environmentally friendly mode of transportation, borders on criminal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;So in part one we have seen that High Speed Rail, planned by the boys and girls at one of the most rail hostile places on earth, is a washout. Tune in later when we bring you MORE reasons why $9 Billion dollars later, this train will fail to arrive.   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/amtrak" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=amtrak" alt=" " /&gt;amtrak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/high%20speed%20rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=high%20speed%20rail" alt=" " /&gt;high speed rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/passenger%20rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=passenger%20rail" alt=" " /&gt;passenger rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/public%20transport" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=public%20transport" alt=" " /&gt;public transport&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=rail" alt=" " /&gt;rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/transportation" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=transportation" alt=" " /&gt;transportation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/green%20logistics" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=green%20logistics" alt=" " /&gt;green logistics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/n98vHdm-R9o" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2010/01/why-florida-high-speed-rail-will-fail.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2455/4007621258_f99f6582a4_t.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>4</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-4255927981712117187</guid><pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:14:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-12-28T21:20:09.184-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida East Coast Corridor</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida High Speed Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">American Association of Private Car Owners</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Tri-Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FEC Ry.</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Passenger Trains</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Terminal</category><title>VIDEO, Passengers on the Florida East Coast</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:180%;"  &gt;PARADISE REGAINED&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://rlv.zcache.com/the_east_coast_of_florida_is_paradise_regained_poster-p228585534120105628qzz0_400.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 400px;" src="http://rlv.zcache.com/the_east_coast_of_florida_is_paradise_regained_poster-p228585534120105628qzz0_400.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;http://www.fecrwy.com/home.aspx&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;In November 2009 a train consisting of the private rail cars of the American &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Association&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;  Private Cars Owners , rolled down the Florida East Coast Ry, on a tour! After the death of it's founder, Henry M. Flagler, the FEC skidded in and out of a bankruptcy that lasted until the 1960's. 25% of all revenue was from the huge fleet of passenger trains, and passenger trains represented 75% of the roads traffic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sadly, the anti-public, union busting, maverick railroad, was known over the next 20 years as the little railroad with a big stick. Constantly improving and raking in profits with renewed energy in freight traffic, the railroad had no time for pleasure. ANYONE caught on FEC property would be immediately escorted to the nearest exit, and any delay would result in arrest, on the spot. No pictures, no passengers, no railroad fans, no buildings, no nonsense, high returns, and more "NO TRESSPASSING," signs then . Good Business? Maybe, but so much ill will was garnered that when the company joined the Rail America family, the public was shocked at the friendly reception. It was time for a change.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;object style="font-weight: bold;" height="265" width="320"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fbfbou7soYc&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;color1=0x006699&amp;amp;color2=0x54abd6"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fbfbou7soYc&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;color1=0x006699&amp;amp;color2=0x54abd6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="265" width="320"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Suddenly the FEC RY is flirting with the passenger business, and is working with the Florida Department of Transportation, Amtrak and the east coast communities, to create a new East Coast Corridor. Test trains and private cars, something unheard of only a few years ago are again becoming common. It appears that the axe has been buried and the railroad is back as the Speedway To America's Playground.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=rail" alt=" " /&gt;rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/florida-east-coast" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=florida-east-coast" alt=" " /&gt;florida east coast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/city" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=city" alt=" " /&gt;city&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/sosptp15t0s" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/12/video-passengers-on-florida-east-coast.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-2915572195457915540</guid><pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-12-29T20:46:23.560-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida High Speed Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">SEHSR</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Lost Sheep of Florida</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">USDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Hub</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Terminal</category><title>FLORIDA HIGH SPEED RAIL</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 102, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;JACKSONVILLE AT HIGH SPEED... 1947 Style&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.msrailroads.com/images/Sou%20Tennessean%201947%20final%20jpg-small.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 298px;" src="http://www.msrailroads.com/images/Sou%20Tennessean%201947%20final%20jpg-small.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;Southern Railway in 1947, heading our way through Tennessee and Georgia. After breakfast we'll be rolling past the 15 platforms, and 32 tracks, of the great Jacksonville Terminal. In those days 7 railroad lines, and 4 major railroad carriers, met at the downtown station. Today, 6 lines and 4 major railroad carriers still do!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;In 2009 Florida has finally made the leap to establish passenger trains throughout our state once again. Sadly these same people are putting a huge amount of energy and effort into a largely useless High Speed Rail plan.  If Florida would just look back a few years, they would find that we have been there and done that already. Does Tallahassee even understand that Jacksonville is the railroad hub of Florida? Why are they focusing on Orlando and Mickey Mouse? Why would they promote a hub and spokes railroad system, when nothing like that has ever worked on the ground before? Sometimes your blogger wishes for those simpler times of 1947. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/amtrak" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=amtrak" alt=" " /&gt;amtrak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/high speed rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=high speed rail" alt=" " /&gt;high speed rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/passenger rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=passenger rail" alt=" " /&gt;passenger rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/public transport" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=public transport" alt=" " /&gt;public transport&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=rail" alt=" " /&gt;rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/transportation" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=transportation" alt=" " /&gt;transportation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/green logistics" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=green logistics" alt=" " /&gt;green logistics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/RrIM2guj1Bg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/12/sou-tennessean-1947-final-jpg-mediumjpg.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-6104538501269787986</guid><pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-12-13T23:35:14.424-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">CSX</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Sprawlrail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Commuter Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Sunrail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Tampa Commuter Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida HSR</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Central Florida Commuter Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Commuter Trains</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Lynx BRT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">HART</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">USDOT</category><title>SPRAWL RAIL, Blessing or Curse?</title><description>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm189/woofboy111/Florida/Maitland/?action=view&amp;amp;current=IMG_0659.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img style="WIDTH: 397px; HEIGHT: 329px" border="0" alt="Railroading in Maitland" src="http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm189/woofboy111/Florida/Maitland/IMG_0659.jpg" width="396" height="584" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Downtown Maitland Florida, before Sunrail, we have to be reminded of where the downtown and railroad station were. One of the highest dollar residential area's North of Orlando, it's easy to see the center of the town no longer plays a major role in the midst of miles of planned communities. If Sunrail is to cause development to happen, it will be in downtown Maitland, Lake Mary, Longwood, Altamonte Springs, Etc.. If Sunrail can bring the development back to it's historic center, ending sprawl, I say, "Bring it on."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;div align="center" href="http://www.metroplanorlando.com/site/upload/documents/SunRail_logo.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 270px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 239px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.metroplanorlando.com/site/upload/documents/SunRail_logo.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SPRAWLRAIL?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;Does that term send nightmare visions of Los Angeles type sprawl extending for endless miles caused by a railroad? If not, your not getting the message that is being sold by the supporters of Florida High Speed Rail. They want us all to believe that the recent deal with CSX for Orlando's long awaited Commuter "SUNRAIL" Project will promote sprawl, with virtually no riders. The claim has been that somehow Sunrail is a secret deal with developers. Let's look at those claims based on some easy facts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sure the Sunrail line WILL spur more development, there are already plans as well as construction all along the route.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BINGO, Along it, not 5 miles away from it. Commuter Rail creates dense concentrations of urban life centered around stations. Commuter Rail development will include urban, in town type Publix, Walmart, and such, but rarely if ever does it cause auto dependent plaza style sprawl in outlaying area's. The reason for this is found in the very concept itself, by nature Commuter Rail allows one to PARK the family gas guzzler, and ride. Commuter Rail certainly doesn't encourage more automobile use.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The people who live in auto dependent suburban areas, will no longer have to crowd the lone Interstate. Their trips will have the option of being greatly shortened and in many cases eliminated. Autos will pour out of the suburban tracts and into park and ride lots where their owners will take the train.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Without those automobiles people must stay centered on the stations or the concept of centrally located mass transit. Any developers who ignore this unwritten rule of nearness, will fail. Trust me, developers will follow Sunrail, but they are smart enough to realize every mile from the station equals less and less sales. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 443px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 208px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.laytoncity.org/public/Images/NewsImages/CD_CommuterRailRendering.png" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Typical Commuter Rail downtown revival in Layton City, Utah, Note where the development is taking place.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;In addition to the new Station, Utah DOT is also doing a study for a proposed Interchange that would be built near the Station. Layton City has designated the area as a Redevelopment Project Area and is focusing on bringing new business to the area and revitalizing existing infrastructure. There is a lot of interest in Old Downtown and the area is poised to become a major attraction along the Commuter Rail Line.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Commuter rail will force Florida into one more revelation, in Orlando or in Jacksonville, wherever we add connections, the state is about to discover that hourly bus operations are not service, they are mere accommodations. Just one more urbanest change that is headed our way like an oncoming train. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sunrail.com/images/TravelTimes.gif"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 355px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 425px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.sunrail.com/images/TravelTimes.gif" /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; The Sunrail Train will run from Downtown to Downtown, just like Amtrak&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A good friend recently listed reasons NOT to live on the Central Florida Corridor today:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Highly inaccessible.&lt;br /&gt;2. Cheap tract home development.&lt;br /&gt;3. Limited commercial base.&lt;br /&gt;4. Lack of diversity and culture.&lt;br /&gt;5. No industrial base.&lt;br /&gt;6. Cheap looking architecture.&lt;br /&gt;7. Not walkable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will Sunrail make this worse? Not a chance. These homes aren't going to go away, and their communities long past the rural stage are suffering from the inside out. The more central one locates in these cities, the worse the transportation dilemma and maze becomes. So the older builds are all in the "downtown's," and the newer homes and shops just keep piling on the parameter. The downtown area's become less functional with each new band of outlaying development.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The premise that Sunrail will encourage more of such irresponsible development is completely false. Sunrail will run on the CSX tracks, and what is today's CSX Railroad, was there over 100 years ago. What this means to the communities on line is anywhere there is a downtown, there and only there, will one find the train. So since it will focus all eyes back on the city centers, all Sunrail development will be in the sectors that have long been ignored and even become blighted. Sunrail won't cause Sprawl, in fact when that 5:00 o:clock whistle blows, those trains will stand ready to take you home, to the DOWNTOWN of your choice. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SyWjzTw5qsI/AAAAAAAABvw/asMaPUBsytA/s400/RDC%20DART.jpg"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 264px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SyWjzTw5qsI/AAAAAAAABvw/asMaPUBsytA/s400/RDC%20DART.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; The Orlando CSX deal, will make this dream a reality for not just Central Florida, but for Tampa, and best of all, Jacksonville. This scene in Dallas, shows their remanfactured RDC cars in action, roumor has it they have made contact with us for these very cars&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the next article, we shall examine a true ill conceived "Sprawl Rail Plan," one so bad that it can only lead to disaster. Taking the negatives and blaming them on Sunrail is a smoke screen, so tune in as we tackle, "Why Florida's High Speed Rail Plan is an Oncoming Train Wreck."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.4em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=rail" /&gt;rail transit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/bus" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.4em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=bus" /&gt;bus transit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/amtrak" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.4em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=amtrak" /&gt;amtrak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/brt" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.4em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=brt" /&gt;brt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/city" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.4em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=city" /&gt;city of jacksonville&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/VlJg4AmWGas" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/12/sprawl-rail-blessing-or-curse.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SyWjzTw5qsI/AAAAAAAABvw/asMaPUBsytA/s72-c/RDC%20DART.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-8807548117115255002</guid><pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-12-14T22:21:16.095-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Gainesville Train</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ray LaHood</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Streetcars</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Commuter Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">USDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Skyway</category><title>Welcome Ray LaHood</title><description>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06_18/.resized/.resized_250x346_lahoodtrain.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 250px; height: 346px;" src="http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06_18/.resized/.resized_250x346_lahoodtrain.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:courier new;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:courier new;font-size:180%;"  &gt;NEW READER WELCOMED&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:courier new;" &gt;Jacksonville Transit wishes to welcome our newest reader, Mr. Ray LaHood, United States Secretary of Transportation.  Hopefully the Secretary will see some of the hip shooting posts that deal with sensitive subjects like Florida's disastrous HSR plan, from the view point of a pro-rail, pro-mass transit, pseudo retired consultant.  He'll also read of Amtrak's apocalyptic Florida rail system, and interstate connections,or lack of the same, as opposed to our historic travel patterns. Jacksonville, and it's heavy need for Port Rail, LRT, Streetcars, Commuter Rail, Skyway Extension, and even connecting BRT, Bus, and new concept Express Bus services, are all here too. "New Concept Bus?" Yes, he'll read it here because this is the only place it exists, so far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The harsh critiques of Jacksonville's so called Transportation Center are spilled out across the screen throughout the blog, with much, much, more to come. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:courier new;" &gt;So Mr. Secretary, check your diplomacy at the door, sit back, and enjoy some pointed sharp shooting blogging, who knows, perhaps you'll comment sometime? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/rZTzCnkdZ7k" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/12/welcome-ray-lahood.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-3704045303167672227</guid><pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-11-28T19:10:46.960-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Tri-Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">COJ</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Mayor Peyton</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Transportation Authority</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Transportation Center</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville City Council</category><title>The Florida Mystery</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(204, 51, 204);"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/traffic-counts-road-money-down-in-palm-beach-86525.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;" &gt;ARE NEANDERTHALS PLANNING FLORIDA'S FUTURE?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.skin-diver.com/scubatrek/images/day1_pic3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 640px; height: 480px;" src="http://www.skin-diver.com/scubatrek/images/day1_pic3.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Traffic counts, road money down in Palm Beach Count&lt;br /&gt;By Paul Quinlan&lt;br /&gt;Palm Beach Post Staff Writer:&lt;br /&gt;"In the next few years, the road program is not going to be able to build very many roads," said County Engineer George Webb. "But at the same time, if we don't have people moving in, we're not going to be that deficient."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the number of drivers falls, service along the existing road network has improved. Only 2 percent of county roads are performing below their designed level of service, Webb said."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.wpbf.com/2009/0506/19383890_640X480.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 640px; height: 480px;" src="http://www.wpbf.com/2009/0506/19383890_640X480.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RAIL! Railroad track never has to be widened. Further if Palm Beach County is at a build out state so that only 2% of the roads are performing below expectations, then one would think we would be putting our focus on Rail and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Tri&lt;/span&gt;-Rail. Our cities, Jacksonville, Miami, West Palm Beach, Tampa, Orlando, TALLAHASSEE, and our State Leaders, have proved to be mental Neanderthals, in a sea of transportation brilliance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;California, New York, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, even Oklahoma, are so far ahead of us we can't find them on radar. But we beg for Billions to build &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;HSR&lt;/span&gt; from the Orlando Airport to an amusement park to a freeway interchange in Tampa. This poorly planned "Rat Rail" project coupled with a failure to properly fund &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Tri&lt;/span&gt;-Rail is going to cost all of us dearly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.floridareview.co.uk/images/silver-star.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 450px; height: 220px;" src="http://www.floridareview.co.uk/images/silver-star.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Florida already has Amtrak Service, though we have allowed even that to decline from 12 trains daily to 4. We stood by to build a trail on the key West Palm Beach cut-off, between &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Auburndale&lt;/span&gt;, and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Wildwood&lt;/span&gt;, and didn't say a word when Amtrak itself was fighting budget cutters in eliminating all service to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Ocala,&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Gainesville&lt;/span&gt;.  We HAVE Amtrak, logic would dictate that the national rail passenger corporation be the tool with which to reach more for less.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Somewhere there must be a reward for this reckless behavior. Perhaps another 10 lanes? All of us have heard the expression "Tax and Spend," well maybe we are getting what we've asked for, my friends, welcome to the world of "Cut and Chop."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/lEWh8QX4824" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/11/traffic-counts-road-money-down-in-palm.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>3</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-44280509368450145</guid><pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-11-28T12:17:39.131-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Garden Club</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Aviation Authority</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JEDC</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JAA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">COJ</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Transportation Authority</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">DVI</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville International Airport</category><title>Jacksonville International and the Worlds Ugliest Airport Entrance</title><description>&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(204, 51, 204); font-weight: bold;"&gt;"FLYING COYOTE UGLY"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.gribblenation.com/flpics/gallery/FL-I95N-363AB-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 400px; height: 300px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.gribblenation.com/flpics/gallery/FL-I95N-363AB-1.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.gribblenation.com/flpics/gallery/FL-I95N-363AB-1.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Welcome to Jacksonville, third most populous city on America's east coast. As you leave our medium size airport, note it's beauty, the mosaic on the floor, or the incredible ceiling over the ticketing area. The airport itself is an art gallery, and there is special arts exhibit halls off of the main terminal, as you enjoy soft piano jazz from one of our local artists. Okay, so it's not Disney World, but it's REAL, cosmopolitan, and a beautiful way to start a business or pleasure trip to our city. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Exiting the terminal area, on board AIR JTA, or an automobile, is likewise a pleasant experience for the eyes. To the right a large freight terminal, and a bit farther down to your left, a welcoming hotel. Finally the one-way expressway, meets up with the opposing lanes, making the roadway seem more complete. Here and there yellow, and blackjack pine trees, dot the landscape around some of the large structures of our International Trade Zone. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.centralmediaserver.com/wtev/weather/DOT/Airport001.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 360px; height: 240px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.centralmediaserver.com/wtev/weather/DOT/Airport001.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;So far so good, where the lanes merge looking east toward I-95&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Trebuchet MS;" &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;It's not until one passes that trade zone that you start to notice a change. Maybe the changing view is due to clutter, or perhaps it's age, but as it becomes a boulevard, and approaches Interstate 95, toward downtown, it has all of the charm of a western Oklahoma prairie highway, after a dust storm. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Heading up the ramp, this thing is obviously ancient, one can almost envision Spanish Conquistadores, marching up the road. Sparse vegetation could hardly pass for landscaping, and the black pasture mud puddles, could be crayfish farms.One might start to wonder, "Is this a welcome mat, or a 1960's K-Mart parking lot." All that is missing from this scene is the smell of stale popcorn. Isn't this a part of Florida? America's playground? Isn't this a major modern city? "Oh, I get it, it's all a joke and the GEICO Cavemen are about to show up as hitchers with backpacks and cardboard signs in hand."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.rentalcarmomma.com/hertz/img/Jacksonville.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="http://www.rentalcarmomma.com/hertz/img/Jacksonville.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;A more typical Jacksonville night on the Northbank, Downtown&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.maxwell.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/081024-F-4476B-991.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 340px; height: 226px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.maxwell.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/081024-F-4476B-991.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt;The Wright Flyer, a sculpture, but not in our forest&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Leaving town after a business trip, football game, or vacation, is worse, even if one misses the confusion of Duval Road, and the actual Airport Exit. Finding the airport exit is a thrill in and of itself. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;A hairpin turn that would do justice to the roads in Yosemite, and you BETTER be going 25 mph, or you might meet John Muir, out in the trees. Trees? Yes, but not just trees, the center of that loop hasn't seen attention since 1963. The old expression, "don't let the door hit you in the nether regions as you go out," takes on a whole new meaning when trash, unmowed grass, weeds, and vines, seem to slap at your vehicle as you pass. Don't worry, at least the terminal is breathtaking, we designed it that way hoping you'd forget the coyote ugly interchange.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a title="PARQUE DE LAS LUCES Medellín by Jorge Luis Rosso Ch, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jorrocha/3094097333/"&gt;&lt;img alt="PARQUE DE LAS LUCES Medellín" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/3094097333_31abc5c9aa.jpg" height="346" width="500" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reaching for altitude? The Park of Light, Medellin, Colombia&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.anniebees.com/China/Assets/images/BEI_IP_211.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 250px; height: 187px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.anniebees.com/China/Assets/images/BEI_IP_211.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 102);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We could play with our colored lights again&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 102);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;as in this scene in China&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 102);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:130%;"  &gt;Come on Jacksonville, time to pull your heads out, this thing needs attention and it needs it now. Even if there are not funds to reconstruct the whole junction, perhaps coins could be found for pavement overlays, paint, a lawn service, and a few of those beautiful K-Mart garden center plants. That Yosemite like loop? I would imagine survival could be enhanced by brush cutting the whole area, even if you were to fly off into the forest, at least we could find your car. Where's our state-of-the-art signal lights, our signature NEON highlighting, and over I-95 and Duval - Airport Road, both locations could use our flood lighted J A C K S O N V I L L E, sign? Go for broke, bronze sculptures of famous local pilots, the first airmail plane, or scheduled airline service are cheap enough, why not? Anyone thinking our city doesn't have an aviation history, at least as cool as our railroad, and port heritage, I have a question for you. "Ever heard of the Blue Angels? Yeah, I thought so.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/airports" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=airports" alt=" " /&gt;airports&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/travel" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=travel" alt=" " /&gt;travel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/trains" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=trains" alt=" " /&gt;trains&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/airlines" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=airlines" alt=" " /&gt;airlines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/urban%20transportation" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=urban%20transportation" alt=" " /&gt;urban transportation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/urban%20planning" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=urban%20planning" alt=" " /&gt;urban planning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/highways" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=highways" alt=" " /&gt;highways&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/nhtsa" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=nhtsa" alt=" " /&gt;nhtsa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/u7RBYpJIW-w" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/11/jacksonville-international-and-worlds.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/3094097333_31abc5c9aa_t.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-7461339104990440056</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-10-14T22:52:08.834-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Miami</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida High Speed Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida East Coast RY</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Daytona Beach</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Jacksonville</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Passenger Trains</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">St. Augustine Station</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Terminal</category><title>Florida East Coast will roll out AMTRAK in 2.6 Years</title><description>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;MR. FLAGLERS LOVELY SPEEDWAY TO AMERICA'S PLAYGROUND WILL ROLL AGAIN!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://images-2.redbubble.net/img/art/size:large/view:main/3486743-3-florida-east-coast-railway-1594.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 550px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 367px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://images-2.redbubble.net/img/art/size:large/view:main/3486743-3-florida-east-coast-railway-1594.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1968, it was an overcast afternoon when train number 2, The Florida East Coast Local to Jacksonville, whistled through St. Augustine, for the last time. If memory serves me correctly it was running four hours late due to official farewells, speeches and crowds. When the big General Motors EMD E Unit rumbled past us on the St. Augustine station platform it seemed to be weeping. Maybe it was just the late hour playing shadows across the tracks, or the mars light rolling and sweeping back and forth over the line ahead, but there was a tangible air of finality for a man made object, that I had never felt before. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Those final miles, there were only two first class passengers, though the coach was full. The train usually only warranted a single locomotive and two cars. A coach, and a tavern lounge observation car. The later came from the FEC'S old East Coast Champion pool, and depending on direction was either the St. Lucie Sound, or the Lake Okeechobee. I always felt these two cars had such comfort and luxury, plus beverage service, that they easily warranted the extra couple of dollars they commanded. Just before Conductor Fields picked up his portable boarding stool, and waved us off, I finally climbed aboard. Making certain I was the last paying first class passenger on a Florida East Coast Train. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The miles clicked by way too fast, as we blew through San Marco, and past the abandoned South Jacksonville Station. In just a matter of seconds with bell ringing, we came alongside the platforms of Jacksonville Terminal. We came to a stop out around track 15 - 20 of 29 at the grand old station. My friend and I stayed behind and spoke with the aging conductor as he wiped his eyes and told us the rail fans had torn up his train in coach, and he gave each of us a set of headrest covers. We thanked him profusely and headed out the door, again myself making sure I was the last person to ever step off an FEC passenger train. We learned that this was a fact in the station, where they told us the Southbound train had arrived in Miami, an hour or two ahead of us. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Then came 2002, and a sudden urge by the State of Florida to restore service to the Florida East Coast. Insane as it seems, a region at least as populated as Portland - Seattle, Chicago - Milwaukee, Los Angeles - San Diego, had been caught up in Florida's unique highway only thinking for an eternity. I believe those in the know about railroads in Florida, were pinching ourselves that this most anti-rail state was doing something positive. But all the hype was for nothing, Bush slashed Amtrak's budget and rather then gain a new route, something our state had already funded, a freeze was put on the whole Amtrak network. Worse still, for "economics" we are told, Amtrak decided to leave the former "S" line down the center of the State, Waldo (Gaineville/UF) , Ocala, Wildwood and Dade City, and consolidate our only two remaining trains on the former Atlantic Coast Line, or "A" line of the CSX. Over on the Florida East Coast route, we were once again, abandoned. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.american-rails-forums.com/AR%20Images/Maps/florida-east-coast-railway-map.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 480px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 396px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.american-rails-forums.com/AR%20Images/Maps/florida-east-coast-railway-map.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Spin the clock forward and we have the new economic recovery package, and Florida wants it's share. The state dusted off their poorly planned high speed rail plan claiming that thousands of travelers will go from the Orlando Airport, to Disney, and hence to a freeway interchange in Tampa. Phase two would run from the Orlando Airport to Miami's new inter modal terminal. In the process, perhaps as a second thought, or perhaps to toss a bone to Jacksonville, the Florida East Coast train proposal suddenly reappeared on a "TRACK 2" application to the FRA.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The application applies for funds to raise the track speed for passenger trains to 90 mph, which on the FEC will involve mostly signal changes as the track is superb. In November of 2012, Amtrak will start splitting both the Silver Meteor and the Silver Star in Jacksonville. A section of both trains will run down the Florida East Coast, while another section runs to Tampa on the CSX. The state and Amtrak also want to establish 3 more trains daily between Jacksonville and Miami, on the FEC route, creating a new Amtrak corridor service, not unlike the "Local to Miami" and "Local to Jacksonville" of 1968. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;There is no money in the application for reconstruction of the rail side of Jacksonville Terminal, but there are plans to see it restored. Right now it's a foot race between a lethargic Jacksonville government, very short on ideas and leadership, and a clique in Tallahassee, that has shifted a great deal of power from North to Central and South Florida. To do the station properly, the Convention Center built on that property needs to come down. This would leave only the original rail buildings, and the concourse of the Convention Center. The entire plan for the Transportation Authority's, "Jacksonville Regional Transportation Center," will easily fit into the space of the former Terminal and Railway Post Office location. Will anyone in city hall or Tallahassee have sense enough to pull it off? Only time will tell, if not we are prepared to scatter this project over 6 blocks of LaVilla, in downtown. Hardly a Transportation Center and more of a Transportation Neighborhood. Either way, the coals are in the fire, and there is no time to waste, Jacksonville either moves forward now, or surrenders it's rail supremacy to a lesser facility... and THAT would be a tragedy.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/e4-SVwI8gb0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/10/florida-east-coast-will-roll-out-amtrak.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>4</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-6016799286637312313</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-09-03T23:06:10.453-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida East Coast</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Lost Sheep of Jacksonville</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida Transportation</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FEC Ry.</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Brain Dead in Jacksonville</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville City Council</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Terminal</category><title>AMTRAK TO THE FLORIDA EAST COAST!</title><description>&lt;a href="http://www.cardcow.com/images/set48/card00211_fr.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 390px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 250px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.cardcow.com/images/set48/card00211_fr.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;"&gt;NOVEMBER 2012, IS THE TARGET DATE FOR THE FIRST PASSENGER TRAINS TO ROLL ON THE FLORIDA EAST COAST SINCE 1968.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;From the Treasure Coast Palm comes this interesting quote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;"&gt;In early October, the Florida Department of Transportation will apply for some $70 million to $100 million in federal economic stimulus funds to re-establish passenger rail service from Jacksonville to West Palm Beach.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;"&gt;Theoretically, the project could be given a green light by November, with funding documents in FDOT’s hands by December or January and construction beginning in early 2010, said Kim Delaney, growth management director for the Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council.&lt;br /&gt;Under that scenario, the golden spike could be driven and ribbons cut by October 2012, Delaney said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“This project is already embedded in FDOT’s work schedule,” Delaney said. “There is a huge amount of work already underway,” ranging from preliminary engineering, right-of-way acquisition to environmental screening, she said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;"&gt;On Monday, officials from Stuart, Martin County, two area planning organizations, FDOT and Amtrak met to begin amassing facts, figures and data in support of a Stuart Amtrak station near downtown.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;There will be more on this exciting story in the near future. To read the complete article about the new Stuart Amtrak Station see: &lt;&lt;a href="http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/aug/31/no-headline---mc_amtrak/"&gt;http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/aug/31/no-headline---mc_amtrak/&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Another article with regards to Vero Beach, can be found at: &lt;&lt;a href="http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/aug/31/all-aboard-vero-beach-chooses-3-possible-sites/"&gt;http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/aug/31/all-aboard-vero-beach-chooses-3-possible-sites/&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/florida-east-coast" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.4em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=florida-east-coast" /&gt;florida east coast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/amtrak" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.4em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=amtrak" /&gt;amtrak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/commuter-rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.4em; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=commuter-rail" /&gt;commuter rail&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/mqK5vsGnN40" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/08/amtrak-to-florida-east-coast.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-7881540562115115247</guid><pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-08-13T22:35:15.677-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">CSX</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Centipede</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Atlantic Coast Line RR</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Union Pacific Railroad</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Broadway Limited Imports</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Baldwin Diesel Locomotives</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Seaboard Air Line RR</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Pennsylvania Railroad</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">National Railroads of Mexico</category><title>When is a toy Better Then Real Life?</title><description>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNefYxSdI/AAAAAAAABZ0/NWuRUc4es5w/s1600-h/Centipede_Baldwin_5827.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5369572210693458386" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 188px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNefYxSdI/AAAAAAAABZ0/NWuRUc4es5w/s320/Centipede_Baldwin_5827.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNdhBqybI/AAAAAAAABZo/UbMu2uXK6uw/s1600-h/CemtipedeNdeM.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5369572193953565106" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 59px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNdhBqybI/AAAAAAAABZo/UbMu2uXK6uw/s320/CemtipedeNdeM.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; It had to happen sooner or later, but the world of model trains just got pushed over the top with an incredible model. This is not a modelers blog, nor is it the domain of model makers, toy boxes, and/or the National Model Railroad Association. But there is no denying that one of the newer importers of model trains, has hit a home run, and brought to life a brilliant, and historic, miniature of Jacksonville's, mechanical history. Broadway Limited Models, Paragon Series, is just now going into full production on an HO scale, Baldwin Centipede. Years ago, several local model railroaders made it a point to speak with a large group of manufacturer's about this rare but historic engine. We were promised that nobody, EVER, would attempt to put this monster diesel, into a miniature world. Not fully understanding such a statement, some of us felt that perhaps there was a slim chance in miniature. Certainly the market would be tiny,  just 3 railroads owned them, and one of those was in Mexico. We all had to agree though, that building a model of the Centipede  would truly be a one of a kind collectors engine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNcn_afBI/AAAAAAAABZc/ZU_0yu8Lq6c/s1600-h/Centipede+HO+Model.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5369572178643287058" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 140px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNcn_afBI/AAAAAAAABZc/ZU_0yu8Lq6c/s320/Centipede+HO+Model.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;This locomotive holds fantastic interest and memories in Florida, as the Seaboard Air Line Railroad, once had a fleet of them. At that time (Late 1940's) steam locomotives still reigned supreme. The railroads though had seen the economy's of the Diesel age, and the various locomotive builders couldn't keep up with their orders. . Baldwin Locomotive Works, in Eddystone, Pennsylvania, had one of the largest industrial plants in the world. Through two World Wars Baldwin, had churned out countless thousands of steam locomotives. Baldwin had been so busy with its fabrication of war materials that it almost "forgot" the development of a line of new diesel locomotives. This was a critical mistake that would see the ancient company shutter the doors in 1956. In the last half of the 1940's virtually every railroad was replacing steam, everyone was shopping. General Motors, through it's Electro-Motive Division, or EMD, had kicked off the contest back in the late 1930's, and now in these post war years, the little upstart was miles ahead. Alco had been the worlds largest builder only to find itself playing catch up with EMD. Alco, Lima, Hamilton, General Electric and Westinghouse, all struggled for a share of the booming market. Only Alco and General Electric had any success. Fairbanks Morse, came in with a complete catalog of diesel locomotive offerings, all were built based on their opposed piston, submarine engine, of war fame. Except for EMD, which survives today, only General Electric, is still in the game, while Alco, was the last of the early group to close.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;When the time came to create a line of Baldwin Diesels, the company had something for everyone, plus a couple of secret weapons to spring upon the market. In those days Diesel Locomotives were often permanently coupled together in sets of 2, 3, or even 4. Had they had regular couplers, and been independent locomotives, none would have rated more then about 1,200 horsepower. (Most of today's engines are in the 3,000+ H.P. range.) About this same time, our very own Seaboard Air Line Railroad, was searching for a fast powerful engine that could handle its undulating profile between Richmond, and Jacksonville.  Seaboard, ran right through the center of the area known as the Piedmont. When Baldwin was done explaining the concept for the worlds first high horsepower diesel locomotive, Seaboard, had it's specifications, and Baldwin, had a customer. In all 4 railroads jumped on the band wagon  each ordering a small fleet of these giant, strange, exotic beasts. Union Pacific, with an order for a single unit canceled their order before delivery, the reason is lost to history.  This left Baldwin with enough orders to build  3 fleets. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I consider myself fortunate to have had the experience of seeing one of these rare engines after they were moved to Jacksonville, to do battle with Central Florida's short steep grades. Your blogger remembers standing at a crossing sign, in an early morning fog, because I had heard a strange sounding air horn off in the distance. I was rewarded for my running up the block, as I began to see a gyro-mars light through the mist.  Then with the urgency of an explosion, a huge baby-face (another nickname) locomotive burst from the fog, leading 7 beautiful Seaboard Passenger cars, North into a Jacksonville dawn. A witness to 600,000 pounds moving at 80 MPH, was something you wouldn't soon forget. I lived in Ortega at the time, and some of my friends, crew members on the nearby Atlantic Coast Line, told me the Seaboard, had a derailment somewhere that blocked it's mainline, and so the passenger train was detoured over the Atlantic Coast Line, that morning. I couldn't have been happier. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNcFqHrHI/AAAAAAAABZU/RSs1lw2E8_o/s1600-h/Centipede+seaboard.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5369572169427168370" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 59px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNcFqHrHI/AAAAAAAABZU/RSs1lw2E8_o/s320/Centipede+seaboard.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Baldwin produced the famous "Centipede" diesel locomotives during 1945-48, and sold them to three railroads (SAL, NdM, and PRR). The Centipedes were very large, 91 1/2 feet long, for single units as operated on SAL and NdM, and 183 feet long for semi-permanently coupled pairs as operated on the PRR. Each unit contained two 1500 horsepower diesel motors, so a pair contained four motors and totaled 6000 horsepower. Centipedes were heavy, totaling 1,200,000 pounds (1.2 million) for a pair, with more than 800,000 of those pounds carried by the 16 drivers. These spectacular diesel locomotives are a MUST-HAVE in miniature. The engine will perhaps sense the closeness of the Seaboard-Lackawanna Shops, out in West Jax. If trains had emotions, purchasing one of these models would be to bring it home.  Perhaps in the curio cabinet, or over the mantle, the Centipede will draw mechanical, and historical interest, to your home for years to come. At least it will be the topic of wonderment until Broadway Limited models releases Baldwins other giant, the mother of all transfer locomotives.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bravo, Broadway Limited Imports, thank you for having the courage to release this rare locomotive. Beautiful job Ladies and Gentlemen. You can reach Broadway Limited Imports at:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.broadway-limited.com/paragon2baldwincentipede.aspx"&gt;http://www.broadway-limited.com/paragon2baldwincentipede.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/04oMiMgF8y4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/08/when-is-toy-better-then-real-life.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bQsuhPJduqQ/SoSNefYxSdI/AAAAAAAABZ0/NWuRUc4es5w/s72-c/Centipede_Baldwin_5827.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-5032612634671465267</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-11-28T12:23:29.976-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Aviation Authority</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JaxPort</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">taxi</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Transportation Authority</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Monorail</category><title>May I Have Your Attention Please</title><description>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.urbanrail.net/am/jack/KingsAve2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 450px; height: 600px;" src="http://www.urbanrail.net/am/jack/KingsAve2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);font-size:180%;" &gt;Watch this unfolding story in the coming weeks, as we explore America's Logistics Center,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);font-size:180%;" &gt;Jacksonville: Rail, Bus, Ship, Train, Plane, Riverboat, Taxi, Highway, Airship, Skyway, Streetcar&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/3588050148_c69696cb28.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 500px; height: 430px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/3588050148_c69696cb28.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;"More Plans, More Projects, More People, More Stars Upon Our Land..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:times new roman;font-size:130%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;Yea old Transit Blogger in Jacksonville has been on the road, traveling the month away. I missed my readers and the fun I have when folks respond, some great friendships have come from this Transit Blog Experience. I'm sorry I had to be gone for an extended time but then again, I have a head full of new story's, comments and adventures ready to share.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So get ready as we dive into our second season... We just got the highball and our train is fixing to leave the station. So hang onto your hats gentle readers, this is going to be fun, adventurous, revealing, under cover, critiqued, and packaged for your consumption. Ready to Roll! &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 153);font-size:130%;" &gt;BOB aka: Ocklawaha&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/jta" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=jta" alt=" " /&gt;jta&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/amtrak" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0pt none ; vertical-align: middle; margin-left: 0.4em;" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=amtrak" alt=" " /&gt;amtrak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/PCmGEwRnDnY" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/08/may-i-have-your-attention-please.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2429/3588050148_c69696cb28_t.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-4691493622124356117</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-06-12T01:12:46.550-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Jacksonville</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Transportation Center</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">DVI</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JEDC</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Rep.John Mica</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Mayor Peyton</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">USDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">HSR</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FLCofC</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Terminal</category><title>JACKSONVILLE AND AMTRAK, A City Speaks Out On Passenger Rail Routes</title><description>&lt;a href="http://www.railwayshop.com/daylight/aclpass.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 327px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 287px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.railwayshop.com/daylight/aclpass.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;AMTRAK? EVER WONDER WHERE YOUR MARKET IS IN FLORIDA? HERE ARE RESULTS OF A RANDOM SURVEY OF 47 NON-RAILROAD, OR RAILFAN, FLORIDIANS THAT MIGHT HELP...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We took a look at the classic trains of Florida Past, and Present, then listed them by route by route. This was a long survey and we are quite happy to have had 47 people to volunteer their time to read through it and answer it as truthfully as possible. There were a few surprises but most of the answers were as exciting as the memory and imagination of the old railroad guy. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Routes: The train routes were given an identification based on some historic train or where possible a current Amtrak name. We then listed only the major destinations of all of the trains to give a good feel for the routes themselves. Everyone understood that there would be smaller intermediate stops enroute. Frankly, I wondered if the names or the routes or even the fact that they would not be "NON-STOP FLIGHTS" would play in a 2009 world. Not only did it play, I think many of these old routes are still considered solid gold by our City. Routes to the Carolinas, New York, Chicago, Cincinnati, and New Orleans all made a very strong showing. The Florida East Coast Ry. Corridor, nearly blew the survey away. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We then asked where they would prefer to catch a train in Jacksonville, again Jacksonville Terminal downtown was a hands down run away winner. However Orange Park/Yukon and a South Jacksonville station (both were once suburban way stations with passenger service) made a strong showing. Perhaps the citizens living in the most sprawled city in North America (largest in land mass) are begging Amtrak, JTA and FDOT to give us the benefit of multipule stops such as the Orlando area enjoys. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Schedules were questioned based on the age old, "Florida Passenger Train Curse." All trains run Southbound in the early AM, and all trains run Northbound in the early PM... I, for one, have always thought a couple of very late PM departures South from Jacksonville, with early AM arrivals in Tampa/Sarasota/Ft. Myers or St. Petersburg, as well as West Palm/Fort Lauderdale/Miami, would serve a strong market. I really didn't know how it would play for others to rock 100 years of tradition. One can only imagine my response to the peoples validation of my theorys. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The questions on the JTC (Jacksonville Transportation Center) aka: Jacksonville Terminal, are loaded as it is currently a far too small Convention Center. The old Headhouse of the 1919 Railroad Terminal dwarfs any other station built South of Washington D.C., but it sits vacant, used as an occasional "ballroom" for Conventioniers. The exhibit halls are new and take up most of the former railroad platforms with buildings and/or parking. If we attempt to build JTC with the Convention Center in the middle, it will scatter our station all over the LaVilla neighborhood. If we move the Convention Center to larger and more desireable locations in the center of downtown's waterfront, then transportation can reclaim all of the land that was once in use. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The questions of "Interface" with the City have to do with multi-modal connections. Our Monorail, and Bus System, plus any future Streetcars, Light Rail, Commuter Rail, Bus Rapid Transit, and Water Taxis. Again we wanted to hear from those with zero background in this type of venture to see what the casual resident would say. I think many will be amazed at just how savvy these citizens really are. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The last set of questions put the JTC or Jacksonville Terminal back to something of it's original form. We asked how much, where, when, what, how, who and why and again, honors go to these intrepid residents that hung in and gave intelligent answers to the questions. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Finally something of a joke. Our question about "The Lakelander" as a certain Mr. Davis, urban planner is known. "Ocklawaha", as Mr. Mann, your blogger, and former railroad consultant, is known in various civic forums and events. We knew there was local name recognition and wondered if all of these 5,000 + storys in all forms of media had given anyone a sense of who we are and what we'd love to do? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;It was never intended to sound like hollow bragging, but the public themselves spoke loud and clear much to our delighted surprise. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 324px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1059/655907499_6f04c1bd7e.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THE SOUTH WIND LIVING UP TO HER NAME&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ROUTE / TRAIN NAME / ROUTE DESCRIPTION&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Total votes out of a possible 47/(percent of all totals combined)/Percent out of a possible 100%. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ROUTE&gt; The Tidewater Route: Jax-Savannah-Fayetteville-Suffolk-Portsmouth/Norfolk&lt;br /&gt;13 (1.6%) 27%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; The Carolina Special Route: Jax-Savannah-Columbia-Charlotte-Washington-New York&lt;br /&gt;27 (3.3%) 57%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; Silver Meteor Route: Jax-Savannah-Columbia-Raleigh-Richmond-Washington-New York&lt;br /&gt;28 (3.5%) 59%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; Champion Route: Jax-Savannah-Fayetteville-Richmond-Washington-New york&lt;br /&gt;20 (2.5%) 42%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; KCY-FL Special Route: Jax-Jessup-Hazelhurst-Macon-Atlanta-Chattanooga-Nashville-St. Louis-KCY&lt;br /&gt;19 (2.3%) 40%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; Dixie Route: Jax-Waycross-Fitzgerald-Macon-Atlanta-Chattanooga-Nashville-Louisville-Chicago&lt;br /&gt;24 (3%) 51%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; Royal Palm Route: Jax-Valdosta-Cordelle-Macon-Atlanta-Chattanooga-Knoxville-Cincinnati-Chicago/Detriot/Cleveland&lt;br /&gt;21 (2.6%) 44%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; City of Miami Route: Jax-Valdosta-Albany-Columbus-Birmingham-Memphis-St.Louis/Chicago&lt;br /&gt;13 (1.6%)nb b 27%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; South Wind Route: Jax-Waycross-Valdosta-Dothan-Montgomery-Birmingham-Nashville-Louisville-Chicago&lt;br /&gt;12 (1.5%) 25%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; Gulf Wind Route: Jax-Tallahassee-Pensacola-Mobile-Biloxi-New Orleans-(Los Angeles)&lt;br /&gt;31 (3.8%) 65%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; The Gulf Coast Special Route: Jax-Baldwin-Starke-Alachua-Gainesville&lt;br /&gt;17 (2.1%) 36%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; West Coast Champion Route: Jax-Palatka-Orlando-Lakeland-Tampa-Clearwater-St. Pete&lt;br /&gt;22 (2.7%) 46%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; The Meteor Route: Jax-Waldo-Wildwood-Auburndale-Winter Haven-Sebring-West Palm-Miami&lt;br /&gt;16 (2%) 34%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; The Sunniland Route&gt; Jax-Waldo-Wildwood-Lakeland-Arcadia-Ft. Myers-Naples&lt;br /&gt;9 (1.1%) 19%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; The Palmland Route: Jax-Waldo-Wildwood-Lakeland-Tampa-Sarasota-Venice&lt;br /&gt;11 (1.4%) 23%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; East Coast Champion Route: Jax-Palatka-Orlando-Auburndale-Winter Haven-Sebring-West Palm-Miami&lt;br /&gt;19 (2.3%) 40%&lt;br /&gt;ROUTE&gt; H. M. Flagler Route: Jax-St. Augustine-Daytona Beach-Melbourne-Ft. Pierce-West Palm-Miami&lt;br /&gt;37 (4.6%) 78%&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.americanrail.com/images/royalstreet/royalstreet/RSNightExt.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 398px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 540px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.americanrail.com/images/royalstreet/royalstreet/RSNightExt.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THE OBSERVATION CAR ROYAL STREET BRINGS UP THE MARKER LIGHTS ON THE ROYAL PALM &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;I'd Prefer to catch the train at the current Amtrak Station&lt;br /&gt;1 (0.1%) 2%&lt;br /&gt;I'd prefer to catch the train at the Jacksonville Terminal Downtown&lt;br /&gt;46 (5.7%) 97%&lt;br /&gt;I'd prefer to catch the train in South Jacksonville&lt;br /&gt;9 (1.1%) 19%&lt;br /&gt;I'd prefer to catch the train in Baldwin&lt;br /&gt;2 (0.2%) 4%&lt;br /&gt;I'd prefer to catch the train in Orange Park/Yukon&lt;br /&gt;10 (1.2%) 21%&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All schedules should be Southbound in the AM and Northbound in the PM&lt;br /&gt;3 (0.4%) 6%&lt;br /&gt;All schedules should run in both directions throughout the daylight hours&lt;br /&gt;11 (1.4%) 23%&lt;br /&gt;All schedules should run in both directions both daylight and overnight&lt;br /&gt;33 (4.1%) 70%&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;JTC&gt;I like the JTA Jacksonville Transportation Center just like it is planned&lt;br /&gt;6 (0.7%) 12%&lt;br /&gt;JTC&gt;I would like to see the Convention Center moved and a more condensed Transporation Center built&lt;br /&gt;35 (4.3%) 74%&lt;br /&gt;JTC&gt;If the Convention Center can't be moved, we should redesign the Transportation Center for more compactness&lt;br /&gt;15 (1.9%) 31%&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;INTERFACE&gt; JTA should hub city buses, BRT and Express Bus services to meet Amtrak trains&lt;br /&gt;29 (3.6%) 61%&lt;br /&gt;INTERFACE&gt; JTA Should expand the Skyway Downtown to better distribute the passengers from the trains&lt;br /&gt;29 (3.6%) 61%&lt;br /&gt;INTERFACE&gt; JTA should run much longer hours, even 24/7 on main trunk routes as soon as the trains start rolling&lt;br /&gt;22 (2.7%) 46%&lt;br /&gt;INTERFACE&gt; I believe JTA's Commuter Rail and Streetcar lines will benefit from the groundwork provided by Amtrak and Regional Rail&lt;br /&gt;43 (5.3%) 91%&lt;br /&gt;INTERFACE&gt; I don't think Amtrak will mean a thing to JTA ridership, even if we become a major hub again.&lt;br /&gt;2 (0.2%) 4%&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lnrailroad.net/jerryDixieFlyer.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 377px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 331px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.lnrailroad.net/jerryDixieFlyer.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THE DIXIE FLYER ARRIVES IN NASHVILLE&lt;br /&gt;-------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;TERMINAL PLANS&gt; JTA/FDOT plan 3 tracks at our downtown station, I think that's more then enough&lt;br /&gt;3 (0.4%) 6%&lt;br /&gt;TERMINAL PLANS&gt; JTA and FDOT plan 3 tracks at our station, I feel it is wholly inadequate&lt;br /&gt;12 (1.5%) 25%&lt;br /&gt;TERMINAL PLANS&gt; JTA and FDOT plan 3 tracks at our station and I fear they foolishly plan to give the hub to Orlando or Sanford&lt;br /&gt;22 (2.7%) 46%&lt;br /&gt;TERMINAL PLANS&gt; I believe a complete Railroad Terminal with all of the sundry support is a requirement in Jacksonville&lt;br /&gt;28 (3.5%) 59%&lt;br /&gt;TERMINAL PLANS&gt; I think Jacksonville and JTA should be at the forefront of the efforts to improve rail services in NE Florida and South Georgia&lt;br /&gt;41 (5.1%) 87%&lt;br /&gt;TERMINAL PLANS&gt; I would support the idea of a multi-city/multi-state coalition led by Jacksonville to push rail passenger service&lt;br /&gt;35 (4.3%) 74%&lt;br /&gt;TERMINAL PLANS&gt; Should The Lakelander and Ocklawaha be appointed to lead the Jacksonville Rail Task Force?&lt;br /&gt;33 (4.1%) 70%&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3429375686_3d5c37b6d2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 333px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3429375686_3d5c37b6d2.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SEABOARD PAUSES AT BAY PINES, FLORIDA IN BETTER DAYS &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/jta" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=jta" alt=" " /&gt;jta&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/amtrak" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=amtrak" alt=" " /&gt;amtrak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/florida-east-coast" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=florida-east-coast" alt=" " /&gt;florida east coast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/news" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=news" alt=" " /&gt;news&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/news" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=news" alt=" " /&gt;news&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/news" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=news" alt=" " /&gt;news&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/8rQGOC6SyHo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/06/jacksonville-and-amtrak-city-speaks-out.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1059/655907499_6f04c1bd7e_t.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>2</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-4475092393896796468</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-11-28T11:39:04.332-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Miami-Dade Transit</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">urbanjacksonville.com</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JEDC</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">BRT Failures</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">LRT -vs- BRT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Streetcars</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">COJ</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">metrojacksonville.com</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">DVI</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Kendall Busway</category><title>JTA'S BRT TRUNK LINE NIGHTMARE COMES TRUE IN MIAMI</title><description>&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;a href="http://macsystems.com/Mar11-2007.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 441px; height: 310px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://macsystems.com/Mar11-2007.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So Jacksonville, has bought the Bus Rapid Transit sales pitch, hook, line, and sinker. For over a year I have been raving on about BRT being nothing more then a cafe of advanced "bus think". The parade of supposed success story's keeps changing:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pittsburgh&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cleveland&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Boston&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Santiago De Chile&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Curitiba Brasil&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Los Angeles El Monte busway&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bogota...etc...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Who are these people? Gentle Reader, these are the same highway boys that scrapped the nations streetcars and interurban's in favor of buses. Go figure, the rail industry has 7 large companies and dozens of small shortline businesses, but most private passenger traffic died in 1971 as Amtrak took over. The industry has ZERO real interest in running our government trains on their tracks unless there is a huge incentive in plant expansion. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Otherwise there are some 70 odd cities with at least a mile or two of streetcar or interurban tracks in North America. Most of these operations are less the 20 years old. While thousands of communities cashiered the streetcars in favor of supposedly "flexible bus transit." &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;States including Florida, once had laws on the book that every able bodied male MUST serve a week or so each year working on roads. Those same roads were largely paid for with railroad tax money. Once the roadways reached the point of saturation, most Americans shifted their loyalty to automobiles. So when the evil streetcar holocaust snatched the big trolleys from nearly every town on the continent, nobody seemed to care. So how loaded are the dice for the rail proponents such as this blog? Glad you asked: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;State and Federal Highways, aka: roads and bridges, are in endless expansion within finite space. Tax Payers that support highways should look for the same return on investment that Airlines, buses or Amtrak gets. But we all know THAT won't happen.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In Jacksonville the same highway boys rolled out a 26 mile "Bus Rapid Transit" plan that in reality was a BILLION DOLLAR road project. The mantra went up from JTA that "highway=cheap", "rail=bad". So this blog, along with metrojacksonville.com, jaxoutloud.com, urbanjacksonville.com, started exposing this true boondoggle for what it's really worth. "Just like rail only cheaper..." Only someone forgot to look up the word CHEAPER in the dictionary: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;CHEAPER&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;brassy: tastelessly showy; "a flash car"; "a flashy ring"; "garish colors"; "a gaudy costume"; "loud sport shirts"; "a meretricious yet stylish book"; "tawdry ornaments"&lt;br /&gt;bum: of very poor quality; flimsy; embarrassingly stingy&lt;br /&gt;The term derives from the Latin miser, meaning "poor" or "wretched," comparable to the modern word "miserable"Low and/or reduced in price; Of poor quality; Of little worth&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So what are the folks at JTA and Miami-Dade REALLY selling us? Let's try that slogan again and insert the meaning of the word into our sentence: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"BRT - Just like rail only wretched, of poor quality and little worth."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"BRT - Just like rail only flimsy, gaudy and embarrassingly stingy." &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ever wonder where the billions of development promised by BRT really happen. Everyone knows the meaning of "cheaper" and none of them are going to plunk down $100 million on a new office tower without fixed, permanent transit. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So are we surprised that Miami-Dade is taking a "perfect example" of BRT built on a former railroad from Miami to Kendall and a converting it to toll road? No! A BRT system that was to show all of Florida just how much better BRT is then rail. So now with the railroad long gone, and the busway empty of either buses or passengers we see our State going even farther backwards. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So our lessons for the day:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;BRT should NEVER be built where rail is already in place. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;BRT does not live up to its claim to be "As good as rail." &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;BRT does tend to live down to the word cheap. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Commuter Rail or Light Rail would have been more attractive in the first place&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Once the rail is gone, we may never see it again in any given corridor. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Once the BRT is gone, all we have to show for our $ Billions are a few more highway lane miles and a collection of newer buses. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Those example BRT models? Let's see if this is just a Florida ghost or a true fleecing of the flock.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cleveland - The Euclid corridor claims millions in development and nearly every cent is socialized federal, state and local offices and the BRT has fallen short in every survey, Light Rail may soon replace the mega bucks spent on this "system." &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1978 – Pittsburgh's South Busway, projected to carry 35,000 weekday rider-trips, actually attracted only 20,000 rider-trips initially, and that level has now dropped to about 14,500, less than pre-busway ridership in the affected corridor. Meanwhile, a parallel LRT upgrade has attracted approximately fifty percent more passengers.[Source: Port Authority Transit data]&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Boston - The highly vaunted "Silver Line BRT" will not be expanded in fact it's roadway was the most expensive piece of highway work in history, rail will take it from here on. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Santiago De Chile - IF you manage to get on a bus, be ready to duck flying bricks (you can feel the hate for this BRT in the air) and of course they're now building a Subway. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Curitiba Brasil - These folks claimed the worlds most successful BRT operation, they even got the bus traffic to move at 12 mph. Now they are quickly building a rail system.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1973 – The El Monte Busway in suburban Los Angeles, installed on a former interurban railway alignment in the median of I-10, has been moderately successful, peaking with a ridership of about 30,000 per day. However, influential planners, highway engineers, and political leaders, perceiving unused capacity between the buses, in the 1980s opened the facility up to use by car pools. With the buses now delayed by "HOV" automobile traffic, ridership has dropped to about 20,000, a reduction of 33 percent. Meanwhile, a commuter rail line constructed by California down the middle of the "BRT" alignment, implemented to speed person-movement in the corridor, has been quite successful - consistently gaining ridership. [Source: LACMTA data]&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bogota - Ever imagine 350 North Americans packed into a single bus? Bogota with 5 rail lines going to waste, is holding tight to BRT in the hopes they can still sell it to stupid Americans. Just imagine what they could do with a series of 8 car push-pull commuter trains, but if your not into riots, military police or sardines, better steer clear of this system. It's so good in fact that it's ILLEGAL for a US/EEUU citizen to ride it! &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;"BRT" - You Can Build it ... But Will They Come?&lt;br /&gt;Light Rail Progress – Updated December 2002 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Proponents of "BRT" (so-called "Bus Rapid Transit"), including the US Federal Transit Administration, assume that, service characteristics (like access time, total travel time, and cost) being equal, the ability of "BRT" service to attract riders is equivalent to that of LRT (light rail transit). Accordingly, the FTA mandates that in ridership forecasting models – such as those commonly used in Major investment Studies for federally funded new starts – bus and rail modes must be treated as virtually indistinguishable to passengers. in fact, speculative ridership models sometimes assign higher trip projections to a "BRT" system alternative, on the basis of input assumptions of supposed bus "flexibility", such as neighborhood access, "seamless", transfer-free trips, express services leapfrogging around local services, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;But do these theoretical projections jibe with reality? The empirical evidence would appear to suggest otherwise.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Altogether, analysis has shown that, for new starts installed in corridors serving the core areas of US cities, "BRT" busways have attracted only one-third of the rider-trips estimated for them by FTA-approved modelling. LRT has attracted 122 percent. The palpable effect of this is that, on most new LRT systems, parking lots are jammed, and riders are crowding on trains; in contrast, typical new "BRT" systems may experience modest increases in ridership, but certainly not the avalanche of passengers seen on LRT. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Denver's new LRT extension was overwhelmed with passengers, a Denver Business Journal reporter assured readers that "Packed light-rail cars, overflowing parking lots and passengers left behind on station platforms aren't unique to the Regional Transportation District's new Southwest light-rail line." On the contrary, "They are scenes repeated around the country as people flock to new rail transit lines in numbers far beyond initial projections."[Source: Denver Business Journal 26 January 2001]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now this from the Miami Herald, "Oh the Humanity," looks like someone figured out how to build another turnpike with FTA mass transit funds.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lightrailnow.org/images/wdcbw01.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; width: 398px; height: 291px; text-align: center;" alt="" src="http://www.lightrailnow.org/images/wdcbw01.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;South Miami-Dade Busway may give way to cars&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Officials plan to vote on a controversial plan to convert South Miami-Dade's Busway into a highway with toll express lanes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A proposed plan would convert the South Miami-Dade Busway into -- among other alternatives -- a four-lane highway with express toll lanes where private vehicles would share the road with buses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BY ALFONSO CHARDY&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a href="mailto:achardy@MiamiHerald.com"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;achardy@MiamiHerald.com&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;For years, motorists in South Miami-Dade have longed to drive on the two-lane bus road on the west side of the chronically congested South Dixie Highway.&lt;br /&gt;Now they might get their wish if county commissioners and other local elected officials approve a proposed plan to convert the Busway into -- among other alternatives -- a four-lane highway with express toll lanes where private vehicles would share the road with buses. The revenue would then be used to fund the cash-strapped county transit agency.&lt;br /&gt;The July 23 vote by commissioners and mayors who are members of the Miami-Dade Metropolitan Planning Organization would enable the Miami-Dade Expressway Authority to obtain a detailed study on ways to convert the Busway.&lt;br /&gt;It would bring dramatic change to the Dadeland-to-Florida City roadway, which was built to encourage motorists to take buses that travel more quickly because they benefit from green-light priority at intersections.&lt;br /&gt;But the strategy didn't work out well because Miami-Dade Transit was never able to operate many buses on the roadway. Currently, between 10 to 27 buses per hour during rush periods serving some 20,000 passengers per day use the Busway. At times the north-south roadway is practically empty.&lt;br /&gt;Transit advocates now fear that modifying the Busway to allow private vehicles would further discourage commuters from using public transportation and reward solo drivers.&lt;br /&gt;DIFFERING VIEWS&lt;br /&gt;Katy Sorenson, a county commissioner and MPO member, provided a hint of the looming controversy when at last month's MPO meeting she urged fellow board members not to take actions that would steer people away from public transit.&lt;br /&gt;''When the issue was brought up a year ago, I had some reservations, because undermining transit is the last thing I would want to do,'' she said. ``This would not necessarily undermine transit and it could provide a funding mechanism for transit. But I want to make sure that in this effort, transit is priority one and secondarily congestion relief.''&lt;br /&gt;Commissioner Carlos Gimenez, also an MPO member, suggested he was more interested in relieving congestion even if that means allowing private vehicles on a bus-exclusive roadway.&lt;br /&gt;''I would support moving forward,'' Gimenez said, alluding to the coming vote on the conversion study. ``If it competes with Miami-Dade Transit, so be it.''&lt;br /&gt;The majority of members at the May 28 meeting seemed to support the conversion study, but not all 22 members were present.&lt;br /&gt;OPTIONS&lt;br /&gt;Three possible conversion alternatives were outlined to MPO members in May by an MPO staffer who said the options would be analyzed more in-depth in the Busway study.&lt;br /&gt;Alternatives described by Larry Foutz, the MPO's transportation systems manager, included:&lt;br /&gt;• Leaving the Busway as is, but allowing private vehicles to use it by paying a toll that would be deducted electronically via SunPass accounts.&lt;br /&gt;• Adding one or two lanes, plus flyover bridges at certain or all intersections to ensure faster travel times for buses and toll-paying private vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;• Building a four-lane elevated highway, moving traffic at expressway speeds along a totally rebuilt Busway from Mowry Drive in Homestead to the Dadeland South Metrorail station in Kendall.&lt;br /&gt;Making no changes to the roadway and adding toll-paying traffic would cost almost nothing, Foutz said, but the option would only allow no more than 5,000 vehicles per day to use the facility and would likely slow the buses.&lt;br /&gt;The other alternatives would add more vehicles to the roadway and range in cost from $228 million to $1.8 billion.&lt;br /&gt;The most expensive, what Foutz called the ''Taj Mahal'' of the options, would be the elevated expressway-style alternative.&lt;br /&gt;Under any option, Foutz said, toll rates would be relatively high because officials want to keep demand as low as possible to maintain fast travel times.&lt;br /&gt;TOLL RATES&lt;br /&gt;Tolls, in anticipated 2030 dollars, would range from $11.25 to $12.75 for travel from one end of the Busway to the other.&lt;br /&gt;Depending on the toll rate and number of toll-paying vehicles, revenue would range between $11 million and $37 million per year.&lt;br /&gt;The Busway was built along an old Florida East Coast railroad corridor that the Florida Department of Transportation acquired in 1988. Subsequently, the right-of-way ownership was transferred to Miami-Dade County.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/fdot" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0px none ; margin-left: 0.4em; vertical-align: middle;" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=fdot" /&gt;fdot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/bus-rapid-transit" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0px none ; margin-left: 0.4em; vertical-align: middle;" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=bus-rapid-transit" /&gt;bus rapid transit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/jacksonville-streetcar" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0px none ; margin-left: 0.4em; vertical-align: middle;" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=jacksonville-streetcar" /&gt;jacksonville streetcar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/transit" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0px none ; margin-left: 0.4em; vertical-align: middle;" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=transit" /&gt;transit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/jta" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border: 0px none ; margin-left: 0.4em; vertical-align: middle;" alt=" " src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=jta" /&gt;jta&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/7FR4pSJquKw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/06/jtas-brt-trunk-line-nightmare-comes.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-8750799929750507878</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-06-03T10:54:44.783-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Parking</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Parking Meters</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JEDC</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City Parking</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Jacksonville</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Chamber of Commerce</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Development</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">COJ</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Mass Transit Funding</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">DVI</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Parking Enforcement Division</category><title>HOW TO: Kill your parking meters, employ Parking Enforcment, and pay for TRANSIT</title><description>&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;a title="ghost in the meter by mugley, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mugley/2290446177/"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;img height="261" alt="ghost in the meter" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2290446177_478f20a32d.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many Sunbelt cities share the same plague. We have gone from dense compact streetcar communities, to sprawled auto scale suburbia. This &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;disease&lt;/span&gt; has eaten away the historic fabric of our &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;downtown's&lt;/span&gt;, collapsed &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;real estate&lt;/span&gt; values, and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;relegated&lt;/span&gt; transit to a poor persons &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;accommodation&lt;/span&gt;. To fight the early compact parking &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;famine&lt;/span&gt;, meters were installed to give the city some control over parking abuse and to raise much needed income for city improvement projects. This &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;phenomenon&lt;/span&gt; almost without fail killed the downtown retail, restaurant and club trades. It sent the shoppers scurrying for the suburbs where they had acres of free parking and well lit, heated or air conditioned shopping comforts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To fight this trend, some cities, Jacksonville, one of the leaders &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;among&lt;/span&gt; them, started a program to raze old buildings and install new multi-level parking garages. The meters stayed at the curbs, and the income kept rolling in, but the ratios of expense to income grew worse with each multimillion dollar garage. The garages had another effect on downtown, they stole away the office workers that previously had walked to and from their posh work stations by making the auto-office connection seamless. Transit &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;agencies&lt;/span&gt;, most all centered around the central city were no match&lt;br /&gt;for what now seemed an automotive slam dunk play.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Something funny happened on the way to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;autotopia&lt;/span&gt;, holes &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;Begin&lt;/span&gt; to appear in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;downtown's&lt;/span&gt; all across the nation. Big holes, whole blocks &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;swallowed&lt;/span&gt; by vacant lots, cheap parking, and pay by the hour vendors. While some Cities retained their close in streetcar business districts, the core was rotting from the inside out. The dearth of people and falling prices, plus the homeless that moved in on the vacant land now caused even more low or zero income people to flood the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;formerly&lt;/span&gt; prosperous meccas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jacksonville is VERY luck to have held fast to it's close in streetcar developments such as San Marco, San Jose, Springfield, Riverside, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;Avondale&lt;/span&gt;, 5-Points, St. Nicholas, A. Phillip Randolph, Fairfax, Murray Hill, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;Durkeeville&lt;/span&gt; (Historic home of the American Negro League Baseball Teams), &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;Moncrief&lt;/span&gt; as well as Park and King. But as the City core became more and more a bland cement wall or glass towered giants, the doors along the street became fewer and fewer. Sprawl looking to escape the homelessness, poverty, and illusion of unsafe conditions, leapfrogged the old Streetcar neighborhoods and dove into suburban sprawl.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does Jacksonville stack up to other cities? How do we look &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;compared&lt;/span&gt; to your town? Imagine a booming Sunbelt City with the above core conditions sprawling over 860 square miles. That my friends is our City, and I wouldn't try walking to your corner grocer or hardware store unless your down for some brutal miles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a title="Downtown Parking by bobissouthern, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/20258920@N06/3589233321/"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;img height="308" alt="Downtown Parking" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3589233321_70e7e6a7ce.jpg" width="500" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd like to offer a solution that might at first take, seem over simplistic. Trust me, in application it is simple, but the results will be invigorating.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To set the stage for this conversion we must first get an audit of all available parking in the core of the central city, at least everything covered by metered parking. On the one hand we want to know EVERY garage space, or surface parking space in the city, their count, occupancy rates, and any available space. Next we need an audit of the meters on a block by block, street by street, and east side, west side, north and south side, total average monthly income per block per side.&lt;br /&gt;Step three is to take the garages and surface lots, and assign each of them a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;territory&lt;/span&gt;, naturally the 900 car garage is going to have a larger territory then a 230 car surface lot. The &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;Territory's&lt;/span&gt; should be balanced so that each covers a percentage of the metered spaces.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The parking meters are then and forever removed and replaced by hourly, parking restrictions. These parking restrictions can flex according to local need. The average income per metered space is directly &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;transferred&lt;/span&gt; as a fee to the surrounding garage or surface lot, again according to usage and revenue. Meters that average $3 dollars per day will obviously transfer more fees within their district then an area where meters average .25 cents per day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a title="Another Meter by epmd, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/epmd/17790602/"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;img height="266" alt="Another Meter" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/17790602_597915f3fa.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So far we've explored how to retain both the income and hourly parking enforcement as well as remove the meters, making downtown more people friendly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This opens a door to add a small percentage to all of these fees, depending on the total amounts &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;transferred&lt;/span&gt;, anywhere from a few percent, to a solid 33%, could be tacked onto the former METER income. To prevent a tax revolt, it wouldn't be fair to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;arbitrarily&lt;/span&gt; zap the former parking spaces with a fee increase based on the spaces former income. This revenue which could amount to several thousands of dollars daily over and above the money needed to keep parking &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;enforcement&lt;/span&gt; intact, would go directly into the construction or reconstruction of Streetcars, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;LRT&lt;/span&gt;, Trolley Bus, and any other fixed &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;guideway&lt;/span&gt; transit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The final incentive for this is beyond even the recovery of our downtown retail marketplaces, it's all of the above, urban cores that beg work, play, and live.&lt;br /&gt;The personal incentive is as easy, anyone not wanting to see their monthly parking space rental go from $35.00 a month (yes, over building has cause very low prices in the Sunbelt - but these numbers are examples only) to perhaps $50.00 a month, will be offered a month long transit pass as a new choice rider, at a discounted $40.00 a month. This is an incentive that could continue as long as they use transit or if it proves extremely popular, it could have a time limit on it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what did this plan do?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Got rid of the meters&lt;br /&gt;Retained all of the income&lt;br /&gt;Added a fee for transit to build fixed route transit&lt;br /&gt;Retained all parking &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26"&gt;enforcement&lt;/span&gt; employees&lt;br /&gt;Slight garage parking fee increase&lt;br /&gt;Gives the city more oversight into parking construction&lt;br /&gt;Builds incentives to return retail, work, play, live, downtown &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Invites new Choice Riders to try Mass Transit &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's way past due, lets do something today. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;Robert Mann: Jacksonville Transit Blog&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/ZqLAMXw46vg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-kill-your-parking-meters-employ.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2290446177_478f20a32d_t.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-4305982122798482494</guid><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-05-26T18:45:31.008-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Brain Dead in Florida</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida Development</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville High Speed Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida High Speed Rail</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Orlando FRA Meeting</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FOX</category><title>FLORIDA HIGH SPEED RAIL - Brain Dead In Florida</title><description>&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.o-keating.com/hsr/foxmap.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 275px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.o-keating.com/hsr/foxmap.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Last week I had the fortune to attend the FRA/Amtrak and High Speed Rail dog and pony show.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The event was held at (of all places) the Orlando International Airport Marriott. They billed this as part show, part workshop, and explained it would take the whole afternoon. The only two from Northeast Florida, were a metrojacksonville.com writer and your intrepid Jacksonville blogger. Since the Orlando Airport is nearly impossible to get at from Orlando, we rode together, via automobile, over interstates suffering from a solid week of pouring tropical rain. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The room designed for perhaps 150 persons must have had all of 300 packed into it. It was a Who's Who of Florida Transportation, with just about anybody and everybody from law makers, FRA and Amtrak officials to county planners, TOD developers and city transit agencies. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We heard all about some $8 Billion dollars that was up for grabs and that we alone were near the top of the list. Window dressing, I bet every City on the tour hears the same line. They explained some pretty basic stuff like "What is a Train", "How Florida HSR in the middle of I-4 will help stop sprawl", and enlightened us with news such as "We already have 4 distinct Amtrak Routes in Florida." (Guess that must mean the demand is now there for 3400 trains a day). Oh the 4 distinct Amtrak Routes? Hold on to your chair, I'm not kidding here; the Silver Meteor, Silver Star, Auto Train and the SUNSET LIMITED! Say what? Apparently no one in Tallahassee realizes that the Sunset Limited no longer runs into Florida, and probably never will again. Oh it will come back someday but it will be a Florida - New Orleans service likely under the old "Gulf Wind" name. Frankly when I stopped laughing, I wondered why they hadn't named the Champion, Miamian, Palmetto, Silver Palm, South Wind or Floridian. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The gist of the whole show is this is what we have in our hands (money), and here are a few of our ideas. After that it was we'd like to hear your ideas. Amtrak made a presentation that they'd love to give Florida a California Corridor type service but the State would have to help pay for it, or at least beg for it. Fat Chance. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The "our ideas," part was just as "government lame" as the first part. We sat at tables and answered vague questions such as. "If you had billions to build HSR what should it look like in 2 years, 10 years, 30 years, and how would you measure success..." Uh, sorry y'all but if I had Billions of dollars I'd be in Cartagena. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;One interesting thing did come about at my table, where I became the "Table Captain". Doc Dockery was in my group. For those who don't know Doc, he is the man almost single handily responsible for the Florida Overland Express (FOX) HSR project. He even financed the issue to get it on the ballot a few years back, only to have JEB Bush find a way to kill it. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I told Doc I don't like the idea of using I-4 as it will encourage more sprawl, nobody lives on I-4. When that thing was built FDOT bought up the countryside and managed to build it between Orlando and Tampa with not a thing in between but MICKEY MOUSE. So towns building North from the old railroad mainlines, current Amtrak routes, will have to build several miles out to meet the new train. When I explained my second problem with the route of choice, running from Orlando Airport to Tampa's Airport, and how far anyone in Orlando would have to drive to just get to the train, Doc told me, "That's where a major Light Rail Project will have to fill in..."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I started humming the M I C K E Y M O U S E song and everyone had a good laugh.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;At first it looked like Doc wasn't going to agree with the rest of the table that Amtrak Corridor service MUST come first so we can build toward HSR ridership. It was more of a "Just build it and they will come," mindset. I can't see success in that plan, in a state built by the passenger train, and one that has completely turned it's back on rail, to the point of hostility, it just won't happen. The Cascade Corridor, California Corridors, North East Corridor all started off with frequent fast Amtrak services, then up graded into faster and faster , and even more and more services. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;With the problems of the whole state solved, I really only have one huge complaint. Where the hell was Jacksonville? JTA had it's planners showing people around downtown, while the upper brass was hearing the mayor talk about fountains, and park space downtown. While all of that might have been important, was it $8 Billion dollars worth of important? Does Jacksonville realize why they are not on the Florida Corridor map? The Secretary of Transportation, warmly greeted me and said, Bob, all Jacksonville has to do is ask to be included. Images of thousands of travelers coming down the Southeast Corridor, arriving in Jacksonville, and then taking a bicycle to Orlando, in order to board FOX. Then it dawned on me, we're still Brain Dead in Florida. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/amtrak" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=amtrak" alt=" " /&gt;amtrak&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/florida-high-speed-rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=florida-high-speed-rail" alt=" " /&gt;florida high speed rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/southeastern-high-speed-rail-corridors" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=southeastern-high-speed-rail-corridors" alt=" " /&gt;southeastern high speed rail corridors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/fdot" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=fdot" alt=" " /&gt;fdot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/P6B_TxZnlbU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/05/florida-high-speed-rail-brain-dead-in.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-4304948790319903828</guid><pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-05-11T01:27:50.455-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Livable Cities</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JAA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JaxPort</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Jacksonville</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Development</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">COJ</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Rail Transit</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JPA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">mass transit</category><title>BIRTH OF A NEW LIVABLE CITY!</title><description>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:180%;"&gt;A BLUEPRINT FOR JACKSONVILLE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"America's Most Wanted"&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Joint feature story on jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and Metro Jacksonville, metrojacksonville.com&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/search/label/Jacksonville%20Terminal"&gt;http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/search/label/Jacksonville%20Terminal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.metrojacksonville.com/"&gt;http://www.metrojacksonville.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/e5Nz3FWUfK8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/05/cecil-field-could-become-jacksonville.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-7893509435715845053</guid><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-12-29T20:56:02.651-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">CSX</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JAA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JaxPort</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Norfolk Southern</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">City of Jacksonville</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FEC RY</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Prime Osbourne Convention Center</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville International Airport</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JPA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Terminal</category><title>Could This Be, "America's Most Wanted?"</title><description>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/?action=view&amp;amp;current=articlebeforejaxbuysrailcolor.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img alt="article map rr today" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articlebeforejaxbuysrailcolor.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;REMAKING THE CITY WITH RAIL - IN ONE SIMPLE PLAN&lt;br /&gt;MANY COMPLEX PROBLEMS AND ONE SIMPLE SOLUTION&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jaxport.com/images/news/poster2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 440px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.jaxport.com/images/news/poster2.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PORT AUTHORITY&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imagine the fastest growing port in the world, surrounded by 3 major railroads, 4 shortline's and 45 railroad headquarters, being captive to ONE carrier. Certainly one rail carrier is a deal killer for many major shipping companies who may be interested in getting in on the action. Imagine directors of the booming port, non railroaders all, thinking the solution is another time killing railroad yard. With a finite amount of money in the city, state and federal pot, how does one fix it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://z.about.com/d/goflorida/1/5/y/J/jax_jia2.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 264px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 400px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://z.about.com/d/goflorida/1/5/y/J/jax_jia2.JPG" border="0" /&gt; &lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;AIRPORT AUTHORITY&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imagine a solid middle tier International Airport, with highway only access, and captive to regular transit buses which run on hourly headway's only during certain hours. At the other end of these bus routes sits the third largest city on America's East coast. How do one increase not only the air traffic but make the ground transportation more frequent and much more attractive?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/JTA_Skyway_train.jpg/300px-JTA_Skyway_train.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 300px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 225px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/JTA_Skyway_train.jpg/300px-JTA_Skyway_train.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, imagine one of America's largest cities, a bus fleet that ranks third in a most popular state, and an expressway system through the central city that is going into major construction until 2017. How do the white and blue collar hordes make their daily trek through this morass of endless construction, when the rush hour within the various parts of the metro is already ranked as number 1, 5 and 8 in the state. Imagine this place where drivers tolerate approximately 66 Million hours a year, sitting in traffic. So after the crash of the Orlando Commuter Rail deal(Sunrail), how does one fix this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/?action=view&amp;amp;current=DiningCar.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img alt="dining car servicing" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/DiningCar.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;INTERCITY RAIL PASSENGER SERVICE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imagine a one time worlds busiest railroad station, stripped of it's trains, former glory and converted into a Convention Center, albeit with with railroad tracks that pass through within a few feet of it. Another factor for consideration is the current Amtrak Station which is wholly inadequate for the currently planned passenger train services. Poorly located, at the end of an alley in the far Northwest edge of the City and hardly in a welcoming setting, between a truck line yard, a junk yard, and almost under a highway overpass. Jacksonville will never regain it's position as the rail passenger hub of the Southeast without coming home to downtown.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jacksonville.com/images/020705/59991_400.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 250px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.jacksonville.com/images/020705/59991_400.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;CONVENTION CENTER&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A major City, a big, huge, national trade city, chock full of industries, highways, rail terminals, warehouses, docks, port terminals, airports and even mega cargo airports, and they build a convention center more suited to Greenville, South Carolina; Mobile, Alabama; or Savannah, Georgia. Size must not have been a consideration because with well under 90,000 square feet, the Convention Center is only good for local party's and home, gun and antique shows. Know anyone that needs a new lawn mower? lawn chair? BBQ grill? Have we got the facility for you to show your products, just don't bring all of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.carnival.com/CMS/Images/Datatemplates/Ports/Large/port__jacksonville1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 410px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 155px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.carnival.com/CMS/Images/Datatemplates/Ports/Large/port__jacksonville1.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course this article is about Jacksonville, Florida, which bills itself correctly as "America's Logistics Center." Yet through all of this dysfunction, the city marches on, looking for, and perhaps finding, a one - size - fits - all solution to every sarcasm I just wrote.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You must understand, with one foot in South Georgia, or Mayberry RFD, and the other planted firmly in the finance and industrial might of Florida, NASA, and the remarkable beaches, we often move at a slower pace. Our location alone seems to propel us forward at times when our politics seem a little too "Dukes of Hazard," to join the modern world. As a Sunbelt City with a world class port, home of the PGA, unspoiled beaches, cutting edge medical facilities, and a Skyline split by a navigable river arguably one of the most beautiful in the world. Add to that a City that constantly scores at the top of business, transportation, and livability articles and surveys. I have faith that we are starting to see the light. Our destiny, to become a first tier international city, sometimes in spite of ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;LET'S LOOK AT 5 STEPS TO A SOLUTION:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articleexportyard.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 240px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articleexportyard.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I. The Port&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. In transportation 101 everyone learns that in order for a port to compete, it simply can't afford to become captive to a single trunk line railroad. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;B. Also in the same class, we should have learned that railroad yards are old technology, time killing wastelands where cars go to sit idle, losing money for their owners. Granted a small facility simply for the pick up and consolidation of outbound traffic may make perfect sense, but anyone with a vision of another "Rice Yard," the massive Waycross, Georgia facility, get it out of your heads. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C. So the City, State and/or Federal Government is going to have to purchase the railroad tracks all along our waterfront. This would include the entire former Seaboard, Fernandina and Jacksonville, Subdivision, from Export Yard near downtown, through Springfield Yard, over the Trout River. All trackage as far as Yulee, or even beyond Kingsland, where the old Seaboard Mainline was cut in South Georgia. This should also include both CSX and NS lines from Grand Crossing, Moncrief and Simpson Yards on the city's far west side.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;D. The lease back option would seem to be the answer here. The entire municipally owned railroad would then be leased to one of America's many shortline operators. Shortline's shine in freight service and would be much more customer driven. Light, quick, clean, frequent, and efficient operations that would still deliver the cars to the CSX, JTA and NS interchanges and probably shave the days it currently takes for a car to get across town, down to a few hours. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articlejaxrrmap.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 250px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articlejaxrrmap.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt; Rails everywhere but the Airport and Free Trade Zone&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. The Airport:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. Freight to the JTA interchanges? Yes, in this plan the JTA would own two railroad lines with it's own (not a lessee) operations. One of these would be a new branch line railroad that would follow the Airport Road, from the tracks near North Main, through the international trade zone and right into the airport facility. Depending on the layout of the airport terminal, it could serve any form of rail passenger equipment with a possibility of turning it on a circus or balloon track.&lt;br /&gt;B. The fact that it would punch through the free trade zone, already home to many large companies would be just another opportunity to pay the construction bonds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articleslineand95brt.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 265px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articleslineand95brt.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3. The Transportation Authority&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. Certainly with the death of the Sunrail project in Orlando, and the impending crash of Tri-Rail in Miami, which has not been funded anywhere close to it's needs, this would need to be a carefully laid out plan. Our transportation authority would construct the line into the International Airport (JAX) on the North, and rebuild the entire former "S" line from Jacksonville Terminal to a connection with the freshly purchased Norfolk Southern track into Springfield Yard. Here it would join the former Seaboard Airline for a straight shot over the trout river and into our port, airport, Nassau County, Yulee or even South Georgia.&lt;br /&gt;B. A extra benefit of buying and upgrading these lines is security for our future, Amtrak, soon enough, and when the time comes for some serious High Speed Rail. This will likely be the route chosen, as historically it was considerably shorter between Savannah, and Jacksonville, then the former Atlantic Coast Line which is the current CSX.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C. Between the Jacksonville Terminal and Springfield yard JTA would have the benefit of a short passenger rail route from the station, to Shand's, Swisher, 21ST street, Panama Park, Dunn Av., Airport Road, Airport. The shortline lessee would be able to access these tracks to reach an interchange with the Florida East Coast Ry, at the Jacksonville Terminal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;D. The entire JTA North Commuter Rail line could then be placed in operation without the need for special or expensive deals with CSX or any other railroad. A fleet of RDC cars or Flexliner Trains would go into service as quick as stations and park and ride lots could be completed. This would be as close to a turn key deal as any city - railroad has ever had. Simple, own the track, draw lease income from the same track, pay for the Commuter Rail with freight, 100% in house.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*********************************************************&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;a href="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articletheelectric7.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 320px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articletheelectric7.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/?action=view&amp;amp;current=article7lineinspringfieldwoods.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img alt="article s line" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/article7lineinspringfieldwoods.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;A usless section of the old track or roadbed is strung between Maxwell House and Gateway Mall&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Electric 7 - A sidebar on a side track.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;"The Electric 7" would be an operation independent of the above railroads would still make use of old railroad track and/or right-of-way, as a light streetcar transit line. While it would cross the "S" it would not have any operation on the new terminal trackage.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There would also be reconstruction of the "S" line northward into Gateway Shopping District and south toward A. Phillip Randolph or Beaver Streets. However these lines would be reserved for rapid streetcar using vintage or replica equipment. A single crossing of the JTA freight-commuter trackage would be required just south of the MLK Expressway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OVUjn2uvxiI/RwE0ooSo5YI/AAAAAAAAANE/2x9sl4OSPgY/s1600/Streetcars-sm.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 450px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 300px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OVUjn2uvxiI/RwE0ooSo5YI/AAAAAAAAANE/2x9sl4OSPgY/s1600/Streetcars-sm.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;From a usless old railroad blight through East Jax., Springfield, Brentwood to Gateway Mall, to a beautiful historic Electric Parkway shaped roughly like the number "7". Thus the new moniker: "THE ELECTRIC 7"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;******************************************************** &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/?action=view&amp;amp;current=TUNNELENTRYJTCO-1.jpg" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img alt="Photobucket" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/TUNNELENTRYJTCO-1.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;Since a "cave" expedition into the old pedestrian tunnels under the stations old rail yard everyone wants to find the entry. This was it back when it was in it's final hours. Since then a wall of glass doors runs horizontally across this scene about where the two gentlemen are walking. Sadly this area was filled with debris and from the wall to where the photographer is standing is paved over.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;4. Intercity Rail Passenger Service&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. Amtrak has several plans, including a 5 train system on each of Florida's intra-state lines. This fast regional service would apparently include the CSX "S" line South, The CSX "A" line South, and the Florida East Coast Mainline South. There are also designs to return the Sunset limited/Gulf Wind route with promised better service, perhaps also a 5 train gulf coast shuttle. North of Jacksonville we have several lines each toward Atlanta, Charlotte, Norfolk, Montgomery, Birmingham, Memphis, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, and many more attractive locations or route combinations. So we are going to get the trains, the question is what are we going to do with them. Meanwhile, we should be at the vortex of every Amtrak service summit meeting in the South, and boy, do we have a place to host them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;B. In order to capture the lions share of the servicing of these trains Jaxson's need to realize the economies of breaking down trains and forwarding them to both coasts of lower Florida. Cars bound for the West being switched out, or cars on originating or terminating trains being cleaned, fueled, iced, catered, laundered. So the bottom line? When 6,500 cups of coffee are loaded on a single dining car, would you like a piece of that action? We simply must return Amtrak to the City Core and move the convention center as soon as possible. Every day we wait the more attractive Sanford, or Orlando, or Tampa, become as THE terminal for Amtrak Florida. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C. In this proposal, we go back to the recommendation of the US DOT back in 1983-85 when a national study of "Transportation Centers" was completed. It clearly stated Jacksonville Terminal needs to be reopened as a railroad and multi-modal station, with no less then 12 tracks. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;D. Florida's changing politics has shifted the balance of power to Central and South Florida and suddenly the state DOT is proposing a 3 track station below the flood plain of McCoys Creek. The reasoning behind this is the Park/Lee Street Viaduct was rebuilt about 25 years ago and a bridge that once cleared 10-15 tracks now only clears two. FDOT in their infinite wisdom has suggested the 300,000 Cubic Yards of fill be removed from the old yards, which will take out the remaining pedestrian tunnels and put the whole yard below the flood plain, even if it grows to be more then 3 tracks. Jacksonville needs to grab this bull by the horn and drag FDOT, JTA or any other agency kicking and screaming to force the rebuilding of the Lee/Park street viaduct to a level that provides for 23.5 feet of clearance on top of the historic tunnels and fill. Then force the issue of getting our full compliment of no less then 8 tracks and four platforms, plus a private car track that could hold and service office cars from any of our 45 headquartered railroads. Under no condition should anything be built in the old flood plain, and the FEC should be brought back up to grade, with the tunnel access restored below it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/scan0010.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 217px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/scan0010.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. The Convention Center&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. This building by the City's own accounting is woefully short on space and poorly located away from the downtown venues, hotels and clubs. As the main exhibit hall was build behind the great 1919 railroad depot, it covers all of the area once occupied by the stub tracks, and part of that once occupied by the through tracks. In fact all of the stations original 32 tracks are gone, with this building and it's parking lot to the west, covering about 20 of them. We could still squeeze in some 10/12 tracks for Amtrak and the Florida East Coast without moving the exhibit hall, but since the hall is a white elephant and something the city itself regrets, we should get it out of the way of the transportation business. If we could salvage the new east - west concourse area, and perhaps 1/4 - 1/3 of the northern end of the exhibit hall building, it could be easily recycled into facilities for intercity buses. This would put the JTA offices and bus station to the west in the former Railroad Post Office site. Amtrak, would have the restored yard south of the 1919 Head house Station, and the restored 1890's station would become a plaza/park area focused on preservation and history. &lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;B. There has been some discussion on moving the Convention Center down to the waterfront near the Hyatt, Jacksonville Landing, or on the Southbank. Anywhere it goes, it should be larger, and if that requires it to be vertical, then lets do it. The station would be connected to any new convention center on the northbank by our Skyway Monorail System and the planned Vintage Streetcars of the Jacksonville Traction Company and JTA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articleafterjaxbuysrail.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 320px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa111/Ocklawaha/articleafterjaxbuysrail.jpg" border="0" /&gt; &lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;In summary, with a single solution, spun around the rails, our city would have: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;A new Convention Center&lt;br /&gt;A "new" Amtrak Terminal&lt;br /&gt;Many more Amtrak trains then at the present time&lt;br /&gt;Control the servicing of all Amtrak trains entering the State, catering, laundry, fuel, etc.&lt;br /&gt;A new Bus/Skyway/Streetcar Terminal at Transportation Center&lt;br /&gt;Transportation Center Parking Garage&lt;br /&gt;New JTA Office Building&lt;br /&gt;Commuter Rail Service through the heart of the historic City&lt;br /&gt;Commuter Rail Rapid Transit into the Jacksonville International Airport&lt;br /&gt;Streetcar lines from Gateway Plaza to Stadium to Jacksonville Terminal and beyond&lt;br /&gt;A Port that has neutral access to 3 major rail carriers, including the FEC&lt;br /&gt;Direct Rail freight access to our JIA International Trade Zone&lt;br /&gt;A method to pay for the entire package via freight revenue and/or lease back&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So there it is folks, we change the face and the future of our City with one simple rail project. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/marine transport" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=marine transport" alt=" " /&gt;marine transport&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/train" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=train" alt=" " /&gt;train&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/green logistics" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=green logistics" alt=" " /&gt;green logistics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/public-private partnership" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=public-private partnership" alt=" " /&gt;public private partnership&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/rail" rel="tag"&gt;&lt;img style="border:0;vertical-align:middle;margin-left:.4em" src="http://static.technorati.com/static/img/pub/icon-utag-16x13.png?tag=rail" alt=" " /&gt;rail&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/6n14KDgEIEI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/05/could-this-be-americas-most-wanted.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OVUjn2uvxiI/RwE0ooSo5YI/AAAAAAAAANE/2x9sl4OSPgY/s72-c/Streetcars-sm.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8370603941740321751.post-7017322617478636389</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:20:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2009-04-30T01:23:36.267-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bus vs Rail Travel</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">FDOT</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Air vs Rail Travel</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Florida's Worst Commutes</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">JTA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Development</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Amtrak</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Transportation Center</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Jacksonville Terminal Company</category><title>As Our Train Takes Off and Our Airplane Accelerates Down The Track...</title><description>&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;F - T - S&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jaylichtman.com/pictures/picture-portland-oregon-amtrak-train-in-union-station.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 300px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.jaylichtman.com/pictures/picture-portland-oregon-amtrak-train-in-union-station.JPG" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Let me coin a new phrase here, "Flying Train Syndrome," or FTS for short. By now your probably wondering just what the heck the old blogger is up to, Flying Trains indeed. I would beg your attention to a relatively new phenomena. There is a knee jerk reaction to the new funding of Amtrak and the many State and Local governments that want to get in on the action. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reading newspaper blogs, it seems that the long silent peasantry has scummed to FTS and their mad as hell. The trouble is we have one or two whole generations who have grown to adulthood with a skeletal rail passenger system that could hardly be called a network. Certainly one train a day, or even tri-weekly, on only one out of 4 or 5 possible mainlines is a far cry from what Arlo Guthrie experienced before the hit single "Riding on the City of New Orleans." I really want us as a Transportation Rich Community and America's Logistics Center, to end the confusion over what rail is and what it can do. Hurry along as we look at some of these FTS blog comments, our plane is leaving the station. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;After a positive article on Jacksonville Commuter Rail, this comment:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JKCOyAiLZVE/0.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 240px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JKCOyAiLZVE/0.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"YAWN, that is the easy way out of saying the proof is in the site, somewhere, just because someone told me it was true....well it must be true. Nah, don't drink the Kool-aid, look around you and see if rail works ANYWHERE in the State of Florida and if it is successful, meaning profitable." &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;This little sarcastic treat comes from the same gentleman that described Amtrak Trains as just one step above bus travel. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Obviously, our friend has either done very little travel aboard Greyhound, Trailways, Jefferson or other intercity Bus Companies, or hasn't been aboard a train since 1932. The gist of his argument is profit, in fact the entire gauge of success in his mind is making cash money. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;This ignores a primary fact in Transportation, a space - time - and public service continuum. In terms of space a rail passenger uses about 5' square feet of space to travel anywhere on the continent. The same person driving an automobile takes up some 85' square feet of space. There could be an argument made that because of the compactness of a train with 200 passengers aboard, it would quickly leapfrog the same 200 passengers in automobiles. This line of cars on the highway would stretch for 3.21 miles. The same load of passengers on the train could be condensed to 1,000' feet, or something just short of 1/5 of a mile. As the world population expands we are growing short on space that can be endlessly covered in asphalt and concrete. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The strongest argument is that rail travel is the most efficient and fuel wise system of transport known to man with the possible sole exception being Zeppelins! So the question becomes how much fuel do we save by train travel? How many acres are still green because of train travel? More pointedly, just how much money did our State Highway System "make" last year? I haven't seen anyone arguing that our airports should be abandoned due to a lack of profit, in fact they would be quick to tell you that the airport brings a city prestige and recognition. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sorry folks then the measure being used is not a level field at best and at worst it is a type of Mass Transit Snobbery or as someone recently put it, Mass Transit Racism. Amtrak seems the easiest target and this nonsense has flown around the country for nearly 40 years. That trains don't fly is no excuse to abandon the technology. FTS? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.nj.com/hobokennow_impact/2008/01/large_amtrak_acela_ap.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 453px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 300px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://blog.nj.com/hobokennow_impact/2008/01/large_amtrak_acela_ap.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;From a news Blog Q and A:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Are we (Jacksonville) ready for light rail, rail, etc.?" And if the answer is no (and in general I think it is), then we'd better put it on the back burner; and if the answer is an undeniable unmistakable strong yes, then build it! We can't just build something and hope that it's a success. I can't even tell (someone help me with this), whether there is a strong, sure public/commuter demand for rail in Jacksonville (is the public ready?).&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;When is a City, County or State "ready" for rail? Must we reach gridlock on our highways and air before we commit any silver to the rails? In this case Jacksonville is called out by name and that makes this an interesting comment. Jacksonville is the largest city in the nation without a rail transit system, either in population, MSA or land mass. We are told we are far to spread out for rail to work, yet rail works just fine in Los Angeles. Then we are told we don't have the density for rail, yet when we checked the US Census Bureau we discovered we land right in the middle of all cities that already have rail in terms of density. So are we ready? The East Coast Corridor web site just published a study that shows: Jacksonville, Miami and Tampa, drivers waste 200 Million hours a year in traffic. So how does the unknown Giant of Jacksonville rank with the well known cities of Florida, check out our MSA Counties. Oh the humanity: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;JACKSONVILLE MSA COUNTIES:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Clay Commute: 33.4 min Statewide rank: 1&lt;br /&gt;Putnam Commute: 30.6 min Statewide rank: 4&lt;br /&gt;Nassau Commute: 28.2 min Statewide rank: 8&lt;br /&gt;St. Johns Commute: 25 min Statewide rank: 19&lt;br /&gt;Duval 23.1 min 25&lt;br /&gt;Flagler 22.9 min 27&lt;br /&gt;Source: Census Bureau 2006 American Community Survey&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I think this answers our questions quite well, I'm waiting for that train, streetcar or zeppelin, but wouldn't that be sort of like Flying Amtrak?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;From an Online Discussion:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2008/04/10/AmtrakAlenMacWeeney4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 460px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 276px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2008/04/10/AmtrakAlenMacWeeney4.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Anyone seen empty buses? When the buses are filled, demand is there for rail, till then, keep dreaming the dream!"&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;Response:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;This is clearly a statement written in ignorance. Any thinking person could reason that a bus that is filled to capacity during the rush hours may be running light in off-peak hours. Even during the peak, bus passenger loadings may fill and empty at several points along the same route, thus not even this is an indicator of demand. Certainly the guy that wants profit in all things would pull out his hair if we were to buy big buses for rush hour and little buses for off-peak times. Frankly with the numbers posted on commute times, we are way behind the curve on getting rail up and running. This would then allow us to redeploy buses that must make the long traffic snarled trek from outlaying areas to the central or satellite city cores. Once this was done the buses would generally run at right angles to the most congested roads and transfer their inbound or outbound loads to strategically placed rail stations. Meanwhile new Heritage Streetcars and the Skyway, Jacksonville's tiny monorail system, completed just another 3 - 5 miles in several directions would serve as a complete distributor in the urban center. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;From the Leading E-News:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ebX8zF3kmcfm/340x.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 340px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 474px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ebX8zF3kmcfm/340x.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"Does slower transportation really appeal to the masses? The only way for trains to get back in the mix is to get faster. It's easier to just hop in the car if it's a short trip, and it's faster to fly.Now, if you had a train that could get from here to WPB or ATL in 2 hours, THAT would shake things up and spark interest."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Response:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;This is the ultimate case of Flying Train Syndrome. Airline style, point to point, non-stop jet set travel has caused the masses to ignore the booming markets of the smaller and medium size towns and cities. Today in California a trip from Fresno to Bishop is likely to be via Los Angeles. A trip from Wilmington, Deleware to Norfolk, Virginia, via New York City and likewise a trip from Jacksonville to Daytona Beach by way of Atlanta. What the train does is FLY THROUGH not over the country. If taking time to see what is in between isn't going to match your schedule so be it, but try and tell a resident of Ocala, St. Augustine, Macclenny or Palatka, that because you want to experience "fly over country," your needs are superior to theirs. Within the route of a single passenger train, there may be many micro-corridors hidden within the fabric of that single stretch of trackage. As a nation we can no longer afford the fuelish luxury of flying 500 miles to get 100 miles down the track, when this happens, it's train time. Flying Trains Indeed!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;Jacksonville Transit: Open Forum, please add a link or proper credit

While it is true that technology waits for no man; stupidity will always stop to take on new passengers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/iquS/~4/7ZPGcnd5Yhc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/2009/04/as-our-train-takes-off-and-our-airplane.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Bob)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item></channel></rss>
