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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
twitterverse (or at least the very tiny sub-section of people that
are interested in weird things) was all a buzz today over the news
that Justin Smeja, the guy who claims to have killed a Bigfoot, had
successfully passed a lie detector test. According to the person that
administered the test, this meant that Justin Smeja was telling the
truth. Or at the very least believed that what he was saying was
true. For many in the Bigfoot/Cryptid community this brought up a
whole host of issues. Guy Edwards, writing on both &lt;a href="http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/"&gt;Bigfoot Lunch Club&lt;/a&gt; and
&lt;a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/"&gt;Cryptomundo&lt;/a&gt;, asked a very pertinent question with his article entitled,
“&lt;a href="http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/2012/08/bigfoot-killer-passes-lie-detector-test.html"&gt;Bigfoot Killer Passes Lie Detector Test. What Does it Mean?&lt;/a&gt;”.
Personally I'm not sure that it means a whole lot of anything. Allow me
to elaborate just a little bit. It seems to me that all the
polygraph indicated was that there was “No deception detected” in
response to the questions asked of Smeja. This tells met that Smeja certainly believes he killed a Bigfoot. However this is not
the same thing as actually killing one. As a background to
this whole issue Smeja claims to have shot and killed not only an adult Bigfoot, but also what appeared to be a juvenile Bigfoot. For a more in-depth look at this event you can read Jeffery&amp;nbsp;Pritchett's &lt;a href="http://www.examiner.com/article/to-kill-or-not-to-kill-interview-with-the-bigfoot-killer-justin-smeja"&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt; for
Examiner.com with Smeja.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I'm
not here to pass judgment one way or the other on this issue. In
fact, this news got me to thinking about Bigfoot and the fact that
I've never really had a chance to sit down and organize my thoughts
on the big hairy hominid. And so I would like to take a
moment or two of your time tonight and try to put down in writing
were my opinion on Bigfoot is at the moment. As with any of my
opinions on fortean topics, this is subject to change anytime, assuming new evidence comes along that causes me to re-evaluate the issue.
Without further delay let's get started!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hOEkcXiPJVM/TAmWz9DYSAI/AAAAAAAAAWU/7YXVyKO1tto/s1600/bigfoot.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hOEkcXiPJVM/TAmWz9DYSAI/AAAAAAAAAWU/7YXVyKO1tto/s320/bigfoot.JPG" width="265" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Undiscovered primate or Inter-dimensional traveler?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;One
last note, my thoughts on Bigfoot actually encompass all hairy
hominids from around the world. So, although I will only be referring
to 'Bigfoot' or 'Sasquatch', please understand that I also mean any other
similar creature you can think of. Including, but not limited to, the following; Almas, &lt;span style="background: #f9f9f9;"&gt;Amomongo,&amp;nbsp;Bukit
Timah Monkey Man,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Yeti, Yowie, Abominable Snowman, and so
on. Thank you!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It
seems likely that the most basic question to deal with first is
whether or not Bigfoot is an actual flesh-and-blood creature or some
etheric denizen from some other place. From the many reports I've
read (and some of which I will be including below), I'm currently of
the opinion that at least some (if not the vast majority) of Bigfoot
encounters can best be explained by a creature that is altogether
more paranormal than physical. We certainly don't seem to have much
in the way of physical evidence for this creatures existence and as I
said some of the reports can be quite bizarre. Please understand I
said we don't have &lt;b&gt;much &lt;/b&gt;physical evidence, not that we don't
have any evidence. I know there are cases of hair, scat, and other
very physical samples being collected from something that would seem
to be quite physical in nature. However, most of these have turned
out to be inconclusive at best or mis- identifications at worst.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;So
for the time being I'm content with having the opinion that there is
a paranormal aspect to Bigfoot that is not typically taken into
consideration, especially when people make claims of shooting one. As
an example, here are just a few of the more bizarre/supernatural
Bigfoot encounters that I was able to locate. Both of the following
were found from a Google Groups &lt;a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.ghost.hunters/27zvK_n1xRY%5B1-25%5D"&gt;post&lt;/a&gt;. The first example is from a Val
Power, an anthropology undergraduate from Vancouver who wrote of her
alleged Sasquatch encounters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Too
much has been written on too little direct observation. The focus of
this report is the phenomenal aspect of the Sasquatch based on my two
encounters in British Columbia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;REPORT
#1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;As
we entered the forest via a well worn path, we both noticed and
remarked that we could feel a pressure on the top of our heads. It
was not uncomfortable but quite noticeable. The trail we were on led
to a gulley and I knew this area very well as I was raised only three
blocks away from it. Miriam and I would come here often on walks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Once
in the forest we did not walk more than one and a half city blocks.
We spent time looking at the variety of vegetation and sitting on a
log talking. This is not an area of thick undergrowth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;As
we got up to continue our walk along the path, I noticed a log by
which appeared suddenly, a Sasquatch laying on the ground facing the
log. Its knees were slightly bent. Its fur was black. Miriam didn't
seem to notice it and continued down the path. I got on my hands and
knees because I wanted to get a good look at this creature.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
was only about a foot away from it at most, and close enough to
comfortably reach out and touch it. Between the Sasquatch and myself
was a visible, clear barrier. The bottom edge was approximately three
to four inches from the ground. I did not look to see the height of
the barrier nor the length, nor did it occur to me to see if I could
walk around to see its face.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
wanted to reach out and touch its fur but didn't because I was unsure
if the barrier would have an affect on my hand or my physical being.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;As
I knelt on the ground I heard a 'metallic' like 'click-click' and my
eyes became as a microscope. Looking through this new heightened lens
I could examine with clarity a single hair and how it fit into the
light, creamy colored skin. Without touch, I could move aside a hair
to examine it and know the thickness of its fur. There was no sound.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;As
I knelt on the ground, I was given a message or a knowing, "When
the barrier touches the earth, the worlds will blend, and chaos will
result".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;As
suddenly as it appeared it disappeared. I stood up and saw Miriam
walking towards me. I asked her what she had been doing to which she
replied, "Looking at a house in the trees". The house was
small, on a branch approximately ten to twelve feet up in a tree. I
didn't see the house and she didn't see the Sasquatch.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Later
on in the article, Val analyzes what she believes happened to her and
her friend during the events. It's a fascinating read and I suggest
you check out the link to give it a glance yourself. The same Google
Group post also has an excerpt from the book &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1893183149/?tag=googhydr-20&amp;amp;hvadid=12132605901&amp;amp;hvpos=1t1&amp;amp;hvexid=&amp;amp;hvnetw=g&amp;amp;hvrand=950765533927945321&amp;amp;hvpone=&amp;amp;hvptwo=&amp;amp;hvqmt=e&amp;amp;ref=pd_sl_9ds462t8jp_e"&gt;The Psychic Sasquatch&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;by Jack “Kewaunee” Lapseritis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;[p.
27] This story was related to me over a six-year period through a
series of letters, numerous telephone calls, and personal interviews.
The account took place west of the Rocky Mountains; the names and
places are changed to protect the family involved. These events
occurred in the latter part of the 1970s and throughout the 1980s.
Mr. Jeffrey and family are well established members of their
community.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;[p.
29] On the first night, they [the Jeffrey family] decided to walk
along the lake after dark thinking they might see a Bigfoot further
away from their trailer. After a while, they heard a banging of
sticks on a hollow tree. Then loud thumping noises at a distance, as
if something with huge feet was carelessly stomping the ground as it
ran. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.97in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.97in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
banging on trees seemed to be coming from different directions,
evidently by two separate individuals. The noise was heard
repeatedly, which greatly perplexed them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.97in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
Jeffrey family decided to hide in the brush in an effort to catch a
glimpse of a Bigfoot. Before long, they were astounded by an ungodly
cry [p. 30] unlike anything they had ever heard before. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.97in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;What
they observed in the moments that followed was beyond their wildest
imaginations. They reported that the Sasquatch stepped out of the
forest holding a flashlight device, and directed the beam up in the
air while howling upwardly. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;During
this time, other unseen creatures hit their sticks against hollow
logs making a loud drum-like thud. There were three bangs, then a
pause; three bangs, then a pause – always three. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.97in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.97in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Within
minutes, a round, saucer-shaped glowing object appeared on the
horizon and hovered over the trees directly above the Sasquatch. The
frightened family huddled in the bushes, observing the peculiar
ritual.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;There
is a little bit more to the excerpt to be found on the Google Groups
post, but of course to get the full story you'll have to check out
the book. This particular account doesn't necessarily rule out a
physical creature, but it certainly doesn't sound like an
unclassified species of hominid. At least not in the classical sense
of some kind of animal. This creature seems to have a pretty healthy
grasp of technological understanding. Again, doesn't mean that the
beings aren't from around here but that they are certainly stranger
than we may know. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Just
like any other fortean topic, my mind isn't entirely made up on what
Bigfoot is. I do tend towards the explanation that there is some
paranormal/supernatural aspect to Bigfoot that makes it far more than
just another member of the hominid family. Cases such as the ones
sighted above have definitely led me to this tentative conclusion.
But like any good Fortean, I  haven't completely settled into one
camp or the other. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;This
makes my opinion on this whole Smeja/Bigfoot killing issue a little
hard to pin down. Assuming that he isn't lying, as indicated by the
polygraph test, then what does that mean exactly? It makes me wonder
what he actually shot and killed. If the creature related in the
above accounts is indicative of a Bigfoot, then how in the world did
Smeja shoot them? Maybe he shot one of the biological Bigfoots
(Bigfeet)? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;These are just some of my random thoughts on Bigfoot. I realized that this post was getting a bit long so I'll be wrapping it up for now, but rest assured I will be returning to the Bigfoot issue from time to time in the future. As
usual be sure to follow the links below for all of the additional
information. Also let me know what you think in the comment section
below.  Do you think Bigfoot is some kind of inter-dimensional
traveler or a surviving member of some long thought to be extinct
member of the hominid family tree?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Additional Info:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/2012/08/bigfoot-killer-passes-lie-detector-test.html" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: large;"&gt;Bigfoot Killer Passes Lie Detector Test. What Does it Mean?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.examiner.com/article/to-kill-or-not-to-kill-interview-with-the-bigfoot-killer-justin-smeja"&gt;'To Kill Or Not To Kill' Interview with Bigfoot killer Justin Smeja&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.ghost.hunters/27zvK_n1xRY%5B1-25%5D"&gt;Supernatural Bigfoot UFO Connection - Google Groups&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I'm
always fascinated to read humanoid encounters and reports of strange
beings that people have had dealings with. Whether or not these
accounts are valid is often difficult to determine, but it does seem
that many of the people who recount them are sincere in their telling
of the stories. If nothing else the stories are fascinating to read
about. Some time ago I came across an amazing website which has a
massive index of these bizarre humanoid encounters. So tonight I
thought I would share with you a just some of the cases that stood out
to me as examples of the variety of entities people report seeing.
Not unlike my post dealing with the menagerie of &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;ved=0CGoQFjAA&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fforteania.blogspot.com%2F2012%2F05%2Fufonauts-many-shapes-sizes-and-colors.html&amp;amp;ei=evwiUMynBZCY8gS11YGgCQ&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNFQZb7jFd_Jn4ZERuLGfIT8CShXeg&amp;amp;sig2=BSeCqvCt0nhySDWnfz8Gvw"&gt;Ufonauts&lt;/a&gt;, you won't
find too many stories of 4-ft tall Grey beings from Zeta Reticuli
listed below.  All the reports come from Albert S. Rosales' Humanoid
Sighting Reports that are posted on &lt;a href="http://www.ufoinfo.com/humanoid/"&gt;UFOinfo.com&lt;/a&gt;. Rosales has
painstakingly collected these reports from a variety of sources and
has tried his best to organize them, both by date and by type of
encounter. I love how Rosales approaches this topic in both his
willingness to simply take what people say as important and with his
attempts to preserve this information for any and all to have.
Quoting directly from the website, Rosales says: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
always felt that the study of the "humanoid” itself was more
important than any other study ….. I am currently engaged in
attempting to catalog most reported encounters with humanoids,
entities, beings, little men, giants, MIB, creatures, amphibians,
reptilians, grays etc. So far I have over 10000 cases in my files,
many known, many not so well known. I have translated many from all
corners of the globe . I think this study is vital for future
researchers and for UFO historians.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
obviously do not believe every single story, but I believe all
stories must be told. Many are first hand reports, others are just
anecdotes, but all are included. I am constantly looking for new
sources of information and I am willing to assist any serious
researcher looking for humanoid cases. I also need help from the
numerous groups Worldwide in forwarding humanoid incident reports for
my catalog, so it can one day be used by everyone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;With
that in mind I will let the cases speak for themselves for the most
part. I can't tell you what to make of them. If you wish they could
just be what Greg Bishop calls 'UFO porno' or perhaps they might
resonate with you as similar to something you or someone you know has
sighted. Personally, I take the reports at face value and assume the
people involved encountered what they have reported encountering. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;First
up is a really interesting event where a man was doing some
work in his yard when he found himself face to face with some little
beings and their pet. It comes from the 1977 year reports.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;56.&lt;br /&gt;Location.
Near Snohomish Wisconsin&lt;br /&gt;Date:
April 1977&lt;br /&gt;Time:
1600&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Steven
Unzelman was clearing some land behind his property in an area
surrounded by tall evergreen trees and brush when he noticed a man
like figure standing close by. The man seemed startled and suddenly
the witness began hearing a loud buzzing sound and everything around
him began to vibrate. The figure appeared to be yelling at him. A
second man wearing a blue coverall now descended from the sky inside
what appeared to be a half-egg shaped contraption with rotating
blades on top. It was creating a strong turbulence all around the
area. Both men descended to the ground using this peculiar machine.
The two half egg shaped objects then suddenly shot up into the sky
and disappeared. Both men were described as bald headed with flat
faces. Both had dark brown skin and wore metallic blue uniforms and
what appeared to be oxygen tanks on their backs. Both were about
5-feet tall and their heads were slightly larger than normal.
Suddenly the witness heard a loud motor sound and saw a disc shaped
object descend overhead making the trees whip back and forth. After
emitting more sounds the object shot straight up making a siren-like
sound. The object was silvery and appeared to have been spinning. The
two humanoids then began walking away looking over their shoulders at
the witness. He then heard a noise and noticed a huge hairy Bigfoot
type creature hiding behind a nearby stump. The two humanoids then
seemed to motion at the Bigfoot to come with them. It seemed to obey
and left with them. The witness experienced a memory loss after the
incident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HC
addition # 2387&lt;br /&gt;Source:
Peter Guttilla, The Bigfoot File&lt;br /&gt;Type:
C&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;This
is a fairly classic example of the 'soil sample collection' variety
of encounters. One has to wonder if perhaps they should hire someone
else to do the soil collecting, after all they've only been doing it
for a few thousand years or so, but I digress. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;7.&lt;br /&gt;Location.
Badlands area Montana&lt;br /&gt;Date: July 1913&lt;br /&gt;Time: unknown&lt;br /&gt;J. L.
Buick &amp;amp; another prospector were startled by a small brown man
saying "Peace be with you, my friends." Sitting on a patch
of sand was a silvery round object nearly 100 ft in diameter, with
central dome &amp;amp; a small conning tower; no wheels underneath.
Around it was other small men in brown picking flowers, pebbles, etc,
&amp;amp; some mining a rock outcrop. The occupant told the witnesses
they were from another planet, which had secretly been keeping tabs
on earth for over a hundred years; they had learned English via spies
working in a US circus. The craft rose silently &amp;amp; then took off.
Next day it came back, &amp;amp; they were given a tour inside; 5
concentric saucers with diminishing air pressures, the outermost
being evacuated. As to lift, "gravity is only a different type
of magnetism," so it can be controlled by an electromagnetic
drive; they can do 9000 mph, and have artificial gravity inside the
saucer. Rockets, they were told, had failed for space travel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Humcat
1913-1&lt;br /&gt;Source: Letter to Donald Keyhoe&lt;br /&gt;Type: G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;This
next case is really weird. In a lot of ways it reads almost like a
Nazi version of the Roswell incident, especially in some of the
details about the living and dead “ETs” which were recovered.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;16.&lt;br /&gt;Location.
Czernica, Germany (Eastern Part, now territory of Poland)&lt;br /&gt;Date:
Summer 1937&lt;br /&gt;Time: unknown&lt;br /&gt;A multicolored ball or globe-shaped
UFO was seen to fall in a field (or near a field) belonging to Eva
Braun’s parents (this was the future mistress of Adolph Hitler) The
area was cordoned off by SS-troops from the town of Jelenia Gora
(called Hirschberg at the time). The crashed disk was transported to
the Hirschberg SS base and kept under very strong guard and super top
security. The disk was 7.6 meter in diameter and 3.8 meters high. It
consisted of a large “overwhelming” dome, encircled by a narrow
outer rim, and smaller flat dome on the bottom with a flat lower
section. The top of the dome was also flat and large. The craft had 6
oval-shaped structures resembling portholes but not transparent, or
devices that radiated some type of light, located near the base of
the upper dome. On the lower surface of the outer rim the craft had
12 lights. The color of the disk was a dull metal gray. There was an
insignia on the dome resembling the letter “T” with 2 props on
its sides. The entrance into the disk was found on the top of the
upper dome. The general shape of the disk resembled that of a German
soldier’s helmet with a small protrusion on the bottom. Inside the
circular cabin were 3 small seats, there were control panels around
the dome and 3 alien beings were found: one was dead, the other two
were alive. One of the live aliens died soon after the crash, and the
second live alien remained in custody for about 1.5 months and then
died. The aliens were small dwarfs, about 0.9-1.0m in height, with
large hairless pear-shaped heads, small dystrophic looking bodies,
long narrow hands with 4 fingers, grayish skin and large dark slanted
eyes. The Germans were afraid to move the disk to a more distant
location, out of apprehension that it might explode during a long
trip during transportation. So, a research laboratory had to be
constructed nearby. From Hirschberg the disk was removed to a more
secured underground location, which most likely, was called “Der
Riese” a Nazi complex in the nearby Gory Sowie mountains (now in
southwest Poland), which was also a site being used for excavating
for uranium ore. This complex had an extensive network of underground
hangars, connected by tunnels. The bodies of the occupants and the
living extraterrestrial were also moved into this complex. The alien
that lived for a little bit over a month apparently supplied the
Germans with some type of information and was desperately asking the
Nazi medical doctors for help, but they could not help him because of
the different biological structure of his body. The alien died from
an unknown illness. The origin of the crashed craft was apparently
the double star system RA known on earth as 78 mu-1, Cygni, 73.1
light years in distance. Among the information given to the Germans
by the surviving alien was that they had built underground bases in
the polar region of the Canadian Northern Territories maybe Baffin
Island. This data was supplied to Adolph Hitler himself. But no
substantial technical data was in fact provided by the alien that
could had help Nazi scientists to cope with the alien technology,
despite their desperate attempt to obtain such data. The surviving
alien also informed the Germans that the crashed was caused by some
kind of technical malfunction. The alien was kept and interrogated at
the same underground installation as the disk. Adolph Hitler and some
other top Nazi figures including Werner Von Braun and Air Marshall
Hermann Goring inspected the crashed disk, the alien bodies and
consulted Nazi scientists in an attempt to use the object as a super
secret weapon. Among those scientist involved in investigating the
crashed disc were, Max Von Laue, Otto Hahn (who discovered nuclear
fusion) and Werner Heisenberg. Fortunately (and unfortunately for the
Nazis) the alien technology was extremely sophisticated and difficult
to understand. The disc indeed inspired some Nazi scientists to
construct different models of disc-shaped planes and the so-called
flying bombs. This crash and possession of the extraterrestrial
spacecraft was one of the factors that possibly inspired Hitler with
extreme self-confidence to start World War II, hoping to use the
craft as a sort of super weapon that would eventually help him
conquer the world. Because of the approaching Soviet troops the whole
underground complex was blown up, and the disk and the alien bodies
was buried in one of the underground tunnels, the entrance was sealed
with numerous huge rocks. It is apparently still there, unbeknownst
to the Polish Government. The disk apparently still emanates
radiation from its power plant, but because of the nearby uranium
mines this source of radiation remains undetected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HC
addendum&lt;br /&gt;Source: Robert K Lesniakiewicz, Milos Jesensky
“Wunderland, Extraterrestrial Technologies, Anton Anfalov, Lenura A
Azizova, Iryna V Volyk &amp;amp; Sergey V Kovalevskiy&lt;br /&gt;Type: H&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;This
next and final report I wish to share reminds me of tales of
encounters with Fairies and going to the fairy realm. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;5.&lt;br /&gt;Location.
Banks of the River Volga, Russia&lt;br /&gt;Date: January 1912&lt;br /&gt;Time:
night&lt;br /&gt;Mr. V. Dychkin and his friend were driving during a snowy
night in separate sledges along the banks of the river. Dychkin's
friend was driving ahead and he was following him. Suddenly they
encountered two "strangers" standing alongside of the road,
and Dychkin invited them to seat on the sledges. The two strange
looking men convinced Dychkin not to continue home because of the
storm, but to turn to the nearest town and spend the night there.
Though Dychkin knew that there weren't any towns in the area, he
drove against his will in the direction where the men told him. One
of the men then pointed and yelled out, "Look, there is the
town!" Dychkin looked and to his amazement saw a beautiful
scene; something resembling a huge strange "city" was
located on a flat plateau, illuminated by thousands of lights. The
lights were positioned in a "fantastic" arrangement; he had
never seen anything like it. Convinced in the reality of his vision
Dychkin turned in the direction of the lights without hesitation. His
companion followed and soon approached him. Suddenly both men were
seized by incredible fear and rushed towards the road, never seeing
where the two strangers had gone. Dychkin looked back in the
direction of the lights but was surprised to see only the night gloom
and darkness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HC addendum&lt;br /&gt;Source: "Rebus"
Magazine, St. Petersburg 1914&lt;br /&gt;German Mikhailov "NLO"
Magazine # 50&lt;br /&gt;Type: G?&lt;br /&gt;Comments: The lighted "city"
could have been a giant spacecraft but also the possibility of
parallel worlds cannot be overlooked.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Are
all of these encounters made up or exaggerated? We may never really
know. I tend to agree with Rosales in that these incidents are
important in our understanding of paranormal or even ufological
phenomena. It's true that they also make for some great reading. On
that note I can't recommend enough that you visit the UFOinfo site in
order to read these and many, many, more reports each just as unusual
and bizarre as the last. In addition to the reports available at the
site, Rosales also publishes the Journal of Humanoid Studies that can
be downloaded as PDFs.  Drop me a line and let me know what you think
of these reports in the comments, additionally if you come across
some other bizarre encounters feel free to post those as well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/x2puaOrY25g" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/08/humanoid-sighting-reports-not-just.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>4</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-477119614144933274</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 11:28:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-08-08T07:29:26.510-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Closet Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Recommendations</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Reading</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Columns</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Philosopher</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Ramblings</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Disinfo</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Charles Fort</category><title>New writing gig</title><description>&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It's
been a few days since my last post, so I wanted to take an
opportunity to give you readers an update on what I've been up to.
Never fear I have a few projects in the pipeline that will return us
to your regularly scheduled Forteania postings that you've all come
to love so much. As many of you are already aware, in addition to
blogging here at Forteania I also write a column for Tim Binnall at
his &lt;a href="http://www.binnallofamerica.com/"&gt;Binnall Of America&lt;/a&gt; website that's entitled &lt;a href="http://binnallofamerica.com/fr.html"&gt;Fortean Ramblings&lt;/a&gt;.
Well you can add another url to your list of places to find my
writing. As of Monday August 6, I began writing for Disinfo.com. My
first (and so far only) post went live Monday evening in celebration
of Charles Fort's birthday. What better way to celebrate not only my
new gig at &lt;a href="http://www.disinfo.com/"&gt;Disinfo&lt;/a&gt;, but also Fort's birthday? Below I'll give you a
snippet of that post, but you should really follow the link below to
check out the whole thing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Happy
Birthday Mr. Fort!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-left: 0.51in; margin-right: 0.44in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;August
6, 2012 marks the 138th birthday of the great cataloger of the
strange and unusual Charles Fort. Writing in the early 20th century,
Fort would pen a total of seven books in his lifetime. Two early
works, &lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;X&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;and
&lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;Y&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, were sadly never published as the author burned
them during one of his many bouts of depression. Another title, &lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;The
Outcast Manufacturers&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, was a fiction book that enjoyed some
moderate success. The works that have made him rather famous (or
infamous depending upon who you ask) are &lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Book of the
Damned&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;i&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;New Lands&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;i&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;Lo!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt;,
and &lt;i&gt;Wild &lt;/i&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;Talents&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Through the use of the New
York Public library, Fort set about to dig up the data he felt that
science had too long neglected. Almost right from the beginning Fort
laid out his intentions pretty clearly. In his first work, &lt;em&gt;&lt;i&gt;The
Book of the Damned&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, Fort wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;blockquote style="line-height: 0.2in; margin-bottom: 0.2in; margin-left: 0.51in; margin-right: 0.44in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;A
Procession of the damned. By the damned, I mean the excluded. We
shall have a procession of data that Science has excluded”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-left: -0.01in; margin-right: -0.02in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Follow
this &lt;a href="http://www.disinfo.com/2012/08/happy-birthday-mr-fort/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; in order to read the whole thing. Also be sure to keep
checking back on Disinfo for more of my writing. That's all I have
for now, tonight should see normal posting resume here. Until then,
Stay Classy internets!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/eEp706Vdo9U" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/08/new-writing-gig.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-5241622498101494658</guid><pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-08-03T20:54:22.991-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Canada</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Groups</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Spectres</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ghosts</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Documentaries</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alexandra David-Neel</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Psychic Abilities</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Paranormal Investigators</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Seance</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Phenomena</category><title>Tulpas, Tibet, and the Conjuration of Philip</title><description>&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;When
it comes to possible explanations for fortean or paranormal
phenomena, I always find myself fascinated by the concept of the
tulpa. Tulpa is a Tibetan word that is typically rendered into
English as 'thoughtform'. The idea is that someone can create from
their thoughts an actually entity or phantom and give it life.
Alexandra David-Neel is credited with bringing the term and concept
to the Western world in her 1929 book &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Mystery-Tibet-Alexandra-David-Neel/dp/1585090972/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1344039311&amp;amp;sr=8-1&amp;amp;keywords=magic+and+mystery+in+tibet"&gt;Magic and Mystery in Tibet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;.
David-Neel had traveled extensively around the globe and was one of
the first Westerners to be allowed entrance into Tibet and their
religion and culture. David-Neel relates a lot of information to the
reader about Tulpas in the Tibetan belief. According to David-Neel:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;
“&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;A
Bodhisattva [David-Neel says this is a person that has attained a
spiritual perfection that places them just below the Buddha] is the
basis of countless magic forms. By the power generated in a state of
perfect concentration of mind he may, at one and the same time, show
a phantom (tulpa) of himself in thousands of millions of worlds. He
may create not only human forms, but any forms he chooses....” (pg
121)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;David-Neel
continues by saying:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
“&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
power of producing magic formations, tulkus or less lasting and
materialized tulpas, does not, however, belong exclusively to such
mystic exalted beings. Any human, divine or demoniac being may be
possessed of it. The only difference comes from the degree of power,
and this depends on the strength of the concentration and the quality
of the mind itself” (pg 121)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;With
this in mind, I wish to take a look at a relatively modern example of
the creation of a ghost named Philip.  During the 1970s a group from
the Toronto Society for Psychical Research, along with a Dr. A.R.G.
Owen (who was a mathematician) meet in order to see if they could, in
essence, create a ghost. The group was comprised of Dr. Owen, his
wife, a former chairperson of Mensa, an industrial designer, an
accountant, a housewife, a bookkeeper and a sociology student.
Additionally a psychologist by the name of Dr. Joel Whitton would
also attend some of their experiments. The original idea was that
this group of people could create a ghost seemingly by meditating on
the idea of him including the history of the ghost. They would then
attempt to make contact with this discarnate entity through séances
and gain information from it.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Here
is a part of the biography for the spirit the group created in order
to flesh out “Philip Aylesford”:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Philip
was an aristocratic Englishman, living in the middle 1600s at the
time of Oliver Cromwell. He had been a supporter of the King, and was
a Catholic. He was married to a beautiful but cold and frigid wife,
Dorothea, the daughter of a neighboring nobleman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;One
day when out riding on the boundaries of his estates Philip came
across a gypsy encampment and saw there a beautiful dark-eyed girl
raven-haired gypsy girl, Margo, and fell instantly in love with her.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;He brought her back secretly to live in the gatehouse, near the
stables of Diddington Manor - his family home.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;For
some time he kept his love-nest secret, but eventually Dorothea,
realizing he was keeping someone else there, found Margo, and accused
her of witchcraft and stealing her husband.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Philip was too scared of
losing his reputation and his possessions to protest at the trial of
Margo, and she was convicted of witchcraft and burned at the stake.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Philip
was subsequently stricken with remorse that he had not tried to
defend Margo and used to pace the battlements of Diddington in
despair.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="border: none; line-height: 0.19in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in; padding: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Finally, one morning his body was found at the bottom of the
battlements, whence he had cast himself in a fit of agony and
remorse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://0.tqn.com/d/paranormal/1/0/e/E/philip1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://0.tqn.com/d/paranormal/1/0/e/E/philip1.jpg" width="259" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;One member of the group even sketched Philip's portrait&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;With
this back story firmly in mind, the group meet weekly in order to
attempt to communicate with “Philip”. As a part of their weekly
meetings the group would come together and meditate on both the image
of Philip and also his history. The group did this for about a year
with no positive results. Some members of the group did claim during
this time that they were able to sense a presence, but apparently
nothing that was verifiable. The group was quite determined and
rather than let the last year be for waste they decided to change up
the tactics a bit. In order to have better results with conjuring
Philip, the group began to replicate the séances of old.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Candle
light, sitting around a table, soft music playing, the whole thing.
They  even had pictures of castles like the one Philip would have
lived in, had he ever actually lived that is. This new method seemed
to do the trick. During one of the group's séances, they began to
receive communication from an entity. Through a series of rappings
(reminiscent of the early Spiritualism movement) the group was able
to determine that they were finally talking with Philip. The entity
revealed this to the group through a series of raps. Speaking through
raps, Philip continued to display his own unique attitude. This was
discovered by how long Philip would pause in between answering the
questions which the researchers posed to him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
group never questioned that the entity they were in communication
with was Philip because of it's lack of knowledge on many topics. It
seems that Philip only knew the answers to questions that someone in
the group knew the answer to. If they would ask him a question that
the group didn't know the answer to he would be unable to answer.
While the Q &amp;amp; A portion of Philip's ability might have been
lacking, he completely made up for this shortcoming with his very
clear psychokinetic abilities.  Overtime as the séances continued,
the group discovered that Philip was able to move the rapping table.
Often, Philip would even cause the table to rush over to people that
were late to the weekly meetings. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
height of the Philip saga came when the group set out to perform one
of their weekly séances in front of an audience made up of 50 people
or so. Additionally a TV film crew was brought in to record the
séance as part of a documentary. Unlike most paranormal phenomena,
Philip actually seemed to enjoy the spotlight. The rappings and
psychokinetic feats were on display for all the audience to see. At
one point during the séance the group was even able to get the
entire table to levitate a few inches off of the ground. Sadly,
because of the dim lighting that was required as a part of the séance
the film crew was unable to record this for posterity. Only a part of
the documentary seems to be online and you can check out the few
minutes of it that exist &lt;a href="http://youtu.be/X2lGPT2J1cc"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Although
the groups main objective of having Philip physically materialize
(not unlike Rosalie), they were overall satisfied with the results of
their experiments. So much so that after their success with Philip,
the Toronto Society for Psychical Research went on to conjure other
ghosts with similar apparent success. In one instance, using a
different group of people, they were able to conjure a new spirit
which was called “Lilith”.
A few other groups are supposed to have been able to successfully
recreate this experiment as well, but finding information on those
incidents is rather difficult. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;At
the end of the day it's hard to say what it was that was actually
occurring in this situation. It certainly seems to fit in with the
concept of the tulpa, especially as explained by David-Neel in her
classic work on the topic. I only wish that more of the documentary
existed so that it could be scene. Ostensibly, if this experiment was
truly as easy as the group proclaimed I suppose that anyone could
conceivably do this at home. Before you do decide to go through with
this and conjure your own ghost, I feel I must leave you with a
parting warning from David-Neel:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
“&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;.....the
practice is considered as fraught with danger for everyone who ….
is not aware of the nature of the psychic forces at work in the
process. Once the tulpa is endowed with enough vitality to be capable
of playing the part of a real being, it tends to free itself from its
maker's control.....Sometimes the phantom becomes a rebellious son
and one hears of uncanny struggles that have taken place between
magicians and their creatures, the former being severely hurt or even
killed by the latter.” (pg 313)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Sources
and further reading:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://paranormal.about.com/od/ghosthuntinggeninfo/a/create-a-ghost.htm"&gt;About.com article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=68076"&gt;Unexplained Mysteries thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.strangerdimensions.com/2012/03/20/the-philip-experiment/"&gt;Stranger Dimensions article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Conjuring-Up-Philip-Adventure-Psychokinesis/dp/0671811037/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1344039514&amp;amp;sr=1-1&amp;amp;keywords=conjuring+up+philip"&gt;Conjuring up Philip&lt;/a&gt; by Iris Owen (part of the original group that summoned Philip)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/JYWFGIol57U" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/08/tulpas-tibet-and-conjuration-of-philip.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>21</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-2919852139078253658</guid><pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-07-30T20:39:40.009-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Spectres</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ghosts</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Psychic Abilities</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Paranormal Investigators</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Seance</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Phenomena</category><title>Harry Price and the Materialization of Rosalie</title><description>&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;In
parapsychological research perhaps no phenomenon is more elusive, and
most highly debated, than the actual manifestation of a ghost or
spirit. While reading through my recently acquired copy of Brad
Steiger's &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ghosts-Restless-Spirits-Haunted-Places/dp/1578591465/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1343693758&amp;amp;sr=8-1&amp;amp;keywords=real+ghosts+restless+spirits+and+haunted+places"&gt;Real Ghosts, Restless Spirits, and Haunted Places&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/i&gt;I
came across a fascinating account of  a materialization of a child's
ghost that was witnessed and investigated by famed British author and
Psychic researcher Harry Price. Price wrote about the events that led
up to his coming into contact with Rosalie in his 1939 book &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Years-Psychical-Research-ebook/dp/B008LYKKJ8/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1343693800&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Fifty years of Psychical Research&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/i&gt;The
story that follows is interesting but, like most of the paranormal,
is highly controversial. I'll leave it for you to decide what
happened that night. Steiger tells us the following:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;On
December 8, 1937, Harry Price had just concluded a radio broadcast
regarding psychic phenomena  when a listener contacted him with an
interesting revelation. Price was informed that the listener
regularly participates in a family séance that was held every
Wednesday evening, at which the family materialized the spirit of a
child. (pg 234)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Harry Price, Psychical Researcher&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Price
was offered the opportunity to come and witness one of these  weekly
investigations on some conditions; according to Price in &lt;i&gt;Fifty
years in Psychical Research&lt;/i&gt;:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Of
course, there were conditions, which I anticipated. But I was
genuinely astonished at the simple rules to which I was asked to
adhere. In the first place, if I accepted the invitation to attend a
séance, I was to promise not to reveal the identity of any of the
sitters, or the locality where the séance was held. I could write an
account of the séance giving my candid views of it, provided I
mentioned no names. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;If
I were impressed with the proceedings, I was 'not to seek a
scientific inquiry', as the mother of 'Rosalie,' who attended each
sitting, was 'terrified that her girl might be frightened away.'
These Wednesday meetings were in the nature of a sacred communion
with the spirit of her daughter, and would be maintained as such. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
was not to bring to the séance any light (such as a torch); I was
not to speak to or touch the materialization without permission, and
I was not to do anything, or make any experiment, without the
sitters' consent. I would not be asked to sign any document embodying
these arrangements: it was to be a 'gentlemen's agreement.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;As
a part of the conditions, Price would be allowed to fully search the
room and home where the séance was to be held. In his own words
Price says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.97in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
would be allowed full control of the room and the sitters &lt;i&gt;up
to the beginning of the séance&lt;/i&gt;.
I could search the house from top to bottom, seal all external
windows and doors, search the séance room (the drawing-room), all
doors and windows of which I could lock and seal, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
could move - or remove - any furniture, ornaments, etc., from the
séance room which I thought fit, I could control the room to the
extent of sprinkling powdered starch or other substance round doors
or windows, or place electrical contacts there (she admitted that she
had gathered that this was what I did, from my broadcast from the
'haunted house'), &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
could search the sitters or any person in the house immediately
before or after the séance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Price
agreed and set a date in which to come see the events of the séance
firsthand. When he arrived at the location, Price was given a little
more background information about the child's spirit that was going
to be manifested. Apparently the child was a little girl named
Rosalie. Rosalie  had died in 1920 from a case of diphtheria.  In his
notes, Price simply referred to the mother as a 'Madame Z'. In
addition to the background on the child, Price was given some
information detailing the circumstances by which the weekly séance
began. Price notes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;In
the spring of 1925 - according to my hostess - Madame Z. was awakened
during the night by the sound of her dead girl's voice crying
'mother.' This occurred so frequently that Madame Z. got into the
habit of lying awake at night, waiting for the 'voice.' Gradually,
she thought she could see (in the dark) the dim outline of 'Rosalie'
and hear her footsteps in the room. Finally, the mother declared, one
night she put her arm out of bed and her hand was clasped by that of
her little girl.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
séance began sometime after dinner. However it wasn't until around
10 pm that something started to happen. Madame Z suddenly said that
she felt the presence of Rosalie that she was here. Rosalie's mother
began weeping and sobbing. Price, meanwhile, relates that he heard
nor saw anything though he did report smelling something. In fact
Price says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;At
the same moment I, too, realized that there was something quite close
to me. I neither heard nor saw anything, but the sensation was an
olfactory one - I seemed to &lt;i&gt;smell&lt;/i&gt;
something that was not there previously. It was a &lt;i&gt;strange&lt;/i&gt;,
not unpleasant smell.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Smells
aside, Price seemed to infer that Rosalie had made her appearance.
Finally curiosity perhaps getting the best of him, Price requested
permission to touch Rosalie. According to Price:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Permission
was given, and I stretched out my left arm and, to my amazement, it
came in contact with, apparently, the nude figure of a little girl,
aged about six years. I slowly passed my hand across her chest up to
her chin and cheeks. Her flesh felt warm, though (and this may have
been imagination) not so warm as one would expect to find normal
human flesh. I laid the back of my left hand on her right cheek: it
felt soft and warm and I could distinctly hear her breathing. I then
placed my hand on her chest again and could feel the respiratory
movements.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Going
further:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;There
are no words to express how I felt at the appearance of the form
before me - or rather to the left of me. A supreme scientific
interest, with a feeling of absolute incredulity, would best describe
my reactions. I had not bargained for anything so wonderful (or so
clever!) as this. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;But
if I had been tricked, so had the mother, and that was unthinkable.
She, at least, was not acting a part. I asked whether I could hold
'Rosalie.' I was told that I could move my chair nearer to the child
and this I did. I was now able to use both hands and again felt every
inch of that little form. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;If
it is a spirit - I argued to myself - then there is no difference
between a spirit and a human being. With my right hand, I lifted
'Rosalie's' right arm and felt her pulse. It appeared to be too quick
and I estimated a rate of 90 to the minute. I put my ear to her chest
and could distinctly hear her heart beating. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
then took both her hands and asked X., his daughter, and Jim to speak
in order to prove their presence in their respective seats. They did
so. I knew that Madame Z. and Mrs. X. were on either side of me, as I
had only to put out my hand to touch them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;After
time spent investigating the fact that the materialized child was, at
least apparently, flesh and blood, Price didn't want to miss the
opportunity to speak with what could very well be an ambassador of
the spirit world. So he set about to ask her some questions that he
felt could give him some more information about where she came from
and what 'life' was like where she resided. Price lists the questions
and answers, or lack thereof, in his book as:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-right: 0.04in;"&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;'Where
do you live, Rosalie?' (No answer.)&lt;br /&gt;'What do you do there?' (No
answer.)&lt;br /&gt;'Do you play with other children?' (No answer.)&lt;br /&gt;'Have
you any toys there?' (No answer.)&lt;br /&gt;'Are there any animal pets?' (No
answer.) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
only question that Rosalie was willing, or perhaps able, to answer
was whether or not she loved her mother to which she replied in the
affirmative. Not long after the Q &amp;amp; A session had ended, Rosalie
began to slowly dematerialize and finally disappeared back to
whatever realm she had first come from. A mere two hours after
returning home wrote notes on the events that had occurred that
night. He concluded with the following paragraph that shows what his
opinion on the preceding events was. It reads as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.02in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
feel I have not done justice in this report to the amazing events of
last night, and I am still wondering if 'Rosalie' was a genuine
spirit entity, or whether the whole thing was an elaborate hoax. If
the latter, then the 'hoax' has been going on for years and no
actress in the world could simulate Madame Z.'s poignant emotion. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.02in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.02in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;And
where did the 'spirit' come from? These are questions which I shall
have to think about, and answer. If I had witnessed the
materialization of 'Rosalie' &lt;i&gt;in my own laboratory&lt;/i&gt;, I should
not hesitate to proclaim to an incredulous world that &lt;i&gt;survival was
proved&lt;/i&gt;. It is possible - though very doubtful - that last night's
historic (as far as I am concerned) séance may be repeated under
better conditions in a laboratory. But Madame Z. is convinced that
'Rosalie would be frightened away.' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.02in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.02in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
sitting I have just attended is at least distinguished by the
complete absence of blasphemous humbug and hymn-singing, which
characterize so many pseudo-spiritualist séances run by rogues for
profit. Looking at it in retrospect, I can think of several things I
ought to have done that I did not do, and one of these is the taking
of 'Rosalie's' finger-prints. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.02in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.02in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
had ample opportunity, but no materials. Another thing I might have
done was to have ascertained who the 'medium' was. Madame Z. herself
denies that she is mediumistic, but I can think of no one else.
Apparently, there was no medium.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
have to say that, all things considered, Price maintains a fair
amount of skepticism over what he experienced. I'm not so sure that I
would have been able to retain such skepticism after what Price had
witnessed. Steiger notes that after Price refused to divulge the
information about the identities of those involved in the séance,
his already tarnished reputation within the psychical research field
was hurt even more. Investigators not only wanted to know who the
séance members were, they also wished to perform their own
investigations. But Price was nothing if not a man of his word and
so, as far as I've been able to determine, the identities have
remained a mystery. Let me know what you think of this story, and be
sure to follow the links below for more information, including a link
to the entire chapter of Price's book that was devoted to the case of
Rosalie.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Further
Reading:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.survivalafterdeath.info/articles/price/rosalie.htm"&gt;Rosalie Chapter of Fifty years of Psychical Research&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.harrypricewebsite.co.uk/index.html"&gt;Harry Price website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/Pybhlb9-jL4" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/07/harry-price-and-materialization-of.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>4</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-5026036208678191554</guid><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-07-27T19:46:20.433-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cryptozoology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Creatures</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cryptid</category><title>The Dover Demon</title><description>&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.03in; margin-right: 0.01in;"&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Continuing
my cryptozoological kick, I wish to take a look at yet another rather
elusive cryptid that made a small splash on the paranormal scene and
left just as suddenly as it appeared . Even years later the witnesses
are stunned by what they encountered that night. But I'm getting
ahead of myself. Let's take a trip back in time to April 21, 1977 and
the town of Dover, Massachusetts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Around
10:30 pm the night of April 21, 1977 three teenage boys were driving
along an area outside of a bar when their headlights illuminated a
bizarre creature that appeared to be crawling along a wall near Farm
Street. Originally one of the witness, Bill Bartlett, thought that
they were looking at what could have been a dog or cat. Yet as he got
a better look at &lt;b&gt;IT &lt;/b&gt;he quickly realized this was no creature
he had ever seen before. Later Bartlett would be quoted as saying&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It
was not a dog or a cat. It had no tail. It had an egg-shaped head. It
looked like a baby’s body with long arms and legs. It had a big
head about the same size as the body, it was sort of melon shaped.
The color of it was… the color of people in the Sunday comics.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Dover_demon.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="268" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Dover_demon.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Bartlett's sketch&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
witness was unable to see anything that resembled a nose, ears, or a
mouth on the creature. It's also interesting to note that evidently
the driver, Bartlett, was the only one of the three in the vehicle
who was able to see the creature as his two friends were too busy
laughing and talking to notice it. Once Bartlett had returned home he
drew a sketch of the creature that he had seen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;This
was not to be the last sighting of the mysterious creature however.
About an hour after Bartlett sighted the creature, John Baxter aged
15 was walking home from his girlfriends house when he saw what he at
first took to be a child. The thought initially struck Baxter that it
could be a local child that he knew who suffered from a disability.
He began to follow it seeing if the child perhaps needed help of some
kind. As he attempted to catch up to the “child”, he soon lost
sight of it. After stopping a moment in order to catch his breath,
Baxter looked across at a gully and finally caught sight of the
“child” he had been trying to catch up to. The creature that his
eyes fell on matched in description exactly that given by Bartlett.
The long, slender armed and fingered creature with the giant bulbous
head. In his own words Baxter had this to say:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;
“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;As
I was looking really close there I could see the eyes it was looking
at me I just stared at it for another few minutes and then I just got
all these thoughts that maybe it was something really strange.
‘Cause, you know, nothing ever happened to me like this before, so
I didn’t know what to think.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://americanmonsters.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Dover_Baxter1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://americanmonsters.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Dover_Baxter1.jpg" width="285" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Artist's sketch based off of Baxter's description&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style="background-color: transparent;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;So
I finally got the thought that maybe it wasn’t as safe as it
looked, ’cause the way it was staring at me it just seemed like it
was– I don’t know. I got all these feelings that it was thinking
to itself, or waiting to spring, or whatever, you know? And so I
backed up the bank kind of fast, and my heart started beating really
fast!” (Source &lt;a href="http://www.americanmonsters.com/site/2010/03/dover-demon-massachusetts-usa/"&gt;AmericanMonsters.com&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
final sighting of the creature occurred the following night, sometime
around midnight. Will Taintor, 18, was driving his girlfriend Abby
Brabham, 15, home when Abby spotted something on the side of
Springdale Avenue. According to Brabham:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;As
I looked at it… it kind of looked a minute like an ape. And then I
looked at the head and the head was very big and it was a very weird
head It had bright green eyes and the eyes just glowed like, they
were just looking exactly at me”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/brabham.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/brabham.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Abby Brabham's drawing of what she saw&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Within
a week investigators Loren Coleman, Ed Fogg, Walter N Webb were on
the scene investigating the sightings. In fact Loren Coleman, who not
only investigated all of the primary witness firsthand, is credited
with giving the creature its name “Dover Demon”. After
interviewing all of the witness, the investigators came to the
following conclusion on the events:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.98in; margin-right: 0.97in;"&gt;
‘‘&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;We
have a credible case, over 25 hours, by individuals who saw
something. Nothing quite like the Demon has been reported seen before
or since. The Dover creature does not match the descriptions of the
Chupacabras, or of Roswell aliens, or of the bat-eared (Hopkinsville
Goblins) said to have attacked a family in Hopkinsville, Ky., in
1955… it doesn’t really fit any place. It’s extremely unique.
It has no real connections to any other inexplicable phenomena. I
think the Dover Demon’s mystery lives on. ’’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Loren
Coleman also appeared on Animal Planet's &lt;i&gt;Lost Tapes &lt;/i&gt;television
show that discussed the Dover Demon. Below is a clip of that show for
you to check out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;object class="BLOGGER-youtube-video" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" data-thumbnail-src="http://3.gvt0.com/vi/jQ9pY1vT3bc/0.jpg" height="466" width="520"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jQ9pY1vT3bc&amp;fs=1&amp;source=uds" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /&gt;&lt;embed width="520" height="466"  src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jQ9pY1vT3bc&amp;fs=1&amp;source=uds" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The
final piece of information I will leave with is this &lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/10/29/decades_later_the_dover_demon_still_haunts/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Boston Globe&lt;/i&gt; article&lt;/a&gt; from 2006 in which the then 46 year old Bartlett was
interviewed about the strange sighting that he had had some 29 years
prior. From that article:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Dover--Twenty-nine
years later, William Bartlett stands by his story of what he saw on
Farm Street that night. It was an eerie human-like creature, he said,
about 4 feet tall with glowing orange eyes and no nose or mouth in a
watermelon-shaped head.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
‘‘&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
have no idea what it was,’’ Bartlett, now a 46-year-old artist
living in Needham, said in a recent interview. ‘‘I definitely
know I saw something.’’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The
‘‘Dover Demon’’ that Bartlett and two other teenagers
reported seeing over a two-day span in April 1977 has since gained
worldwide attention, not unlike Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, and
the Latin American goat-sucker, the chupacabra. Internet pages are
devoted to the Dover Demon. You can play a video game featuring the
creature, or buy a figurine of it as far away as Japan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
‘‘&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;In
a lot of ways it’s kind of embarrassing to me,’’ said Bartlett.
‘‘I definitely saw something. It was definitely weird. I didn’t
make it up. Sometimes I wish I had.’’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;He
has made a career as a painter, his work displayed in galleries on
both coasts, but a Google search on ‘‘Bill Bartlett,’’ he
noted, invariably turns up his teenage encounter with the unknown.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Once,
his wife, Gwen, browsing the horror section of a bookstore, flipped
open an encyclopedia of monsters — and there was an entry about her
husband and the Dover Demon.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
‘‘&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It’s
a thing that’s been following me for years,’’ Bartlett said.
‘‘Not the creature — the story. Sometimes I dread every
Halloween getting calls about it.’’&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Writing
in the 1999 2nd edition of his &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Unexplained-Sightings-Incredible-Occurrences-Phenomena/dp/1578590701/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1343430301&amp;amp;sr=8-1-spell&amp;amp;keywords=Unexplained+Jerome+Clarke"&gt;Unexplained!&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/i&gt;Jerry Clark notes
that Martin S Kottmeyer has a possible explanation for what the
teenagers saw those nights. Clark writes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div align="LEFT" class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 1.02in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Martin
S Kottmeyer has suggested that the witnesses were seriously mistaken
about what they saw, and he knows what the Dover Demon may have been:
a young moose .... He notes, “Bartlett's placing o fthe eyes
matches the placement just above the hip of the muzzle on a moose's
head. The lack of a discernable nose and mouth is easily laid to the
fact that nostrils and mouth are very far down on the muzzle. A
drawing of a young moose presents ears swept back along the line of
the head and would not discernably stick out, thus accounting for the
absence of visible ears.” (pg 415)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;So
what do you think? Was it a misidentified, but still wholly mundane,
animal? An alien out for a little recon mission? Personally I'm not
sure what to make of it. Unlike many of the cryptid stories that have
circulated for years the Dover Demon had a mere 25 hour splash on
history. Whereas Bigfoot has been seen for hundreds of years, if not
more, to the best of my knowledge the Dover Demon was only sighted
over the period of April 21 to 22 and no more. I don't think the kids
made it up, after all it seems to have had a profound impact on
Bartlett at least. I'm keeping an open mind on this one for now, be
sure to let me know what you think in the comments section below!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/RxPX0MHFShI" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-dover-demon.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>9</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-8319107640265572747</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-07-24T21:21:59.152-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cryptozoology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Creatures</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cryptid</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bigfoot</category><title>Momo the Missouri Monster - 40 yrs On</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I've
been on a decidedly UFO-centric bent the last few weeks of posts and
so tonight I thought I would leave that topic behind and head back
over to the harried (or hairy pardon the very bad pun) world of
cryptozoology. It would seem that no place in the world was safe from
large hairy hominids. Australia has their Yowie, the Himalayas their
Yeti, and the Pacific Northwest of North America has Bigfoot.
Apparently not to be outdone it seems that the town of Louisiana,
Missouri also has a hairy hominid that popped up for a time and then
seemingly vanished back into whatever ethereal dimension these
creatures call home. So let's travel back in time to July of 1972 and
meet with Momo, the Missouri Monster. The first reported sighting of
the creature occurred on July 11, 1972. According to The Kansas City
Star:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
Harrison family lived in a house along what was then known as Marzolf
Hill. On a hot summer day, 8-year-old Terry Harrison and his
5-year-old brother, Wally, were chasing their dog through the woods.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Suddenly,
15-year-old Doris Harrison, who was inside, heard her brothers
screaming, ran to the window and saw a creature she described as
perhaps 7 feet tall with dark hair covering its face. It held a dead
dog under its arm and blood – apparently from the dog – flecked
the dark hair of the beast. And, ooh, that smell!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It
wasn't a man and it wasn't a bear,” said Doris Harrison Bliss, now
55. “It was something …”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Something
you'd never seen before?” she was asked.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Exactly!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/coastwizard/Cryptozoology/Skunk%20Apes/Momo4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m168/coastwizard/Cryptozoology/Skunk%20Apes/Momo4.jpg" width="271" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Something not seen before&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It's
at this point that I would like to point out a few interesting
details about this case. First, in keeping with the hairy hominid
tradition, the creature was quite tall and also had a fairly
unpleasant odor to it. Anyone who is even cursorily aware of other
sasquatch reports knows that both of these facts are in keeping with
the party line, so to speak. However I'm sure many picked up on the
fact that Momo was apparently feasting on someone's dog. Now I don't
know about you all but I probably would not have stuck around much
longer in the presence of an apparently carnivorous 7 ft tall
creature. That's just what Doris and her brother's did, they got out
the area and fast! This was not to be the last time that Momo would
wield it's (probably) blood covered head however. With an apparent
attraction to the Harrison family we find this piece of information
from Prairie Ghosts:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Everything
was quiet until three days later, on July 14. That evening, Edgar
Harrison (the children's Father) conducted a regular prayer meeting
in his home and about 45 minutes after it ended, heard ringing noises
that sounded as though someone was throwing rocks into the metal
water reservoir on top of Marzolf Hill. The reservoir was an
attraction for neighborhood children but it was unlikely that any of
them would have been playing there at that hour. As he listened
closely to the sounds, he heard one especially loud ring and then an
animal-like growl. The sound came closer and closer and was so loud
that his family came running out of the house. They urged him to
leave the neighborhood but Harrison wanted to see what was making the
sound.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;He
finally gave in to his family's pleading and as he drove down Allen
Street, he met about 40 people, some of them carrying guns, who were
on their way to investigate the sounds at the reservoir. For some
reason, Harrison shouted "Here it comes!" and the entire
crowd turned away and ran. A number of people reported hearing the
strange cries and screams that night but by the time that police
officers Jerry Floyd and John Whitaker arrived on the scene to
investigate, they found nothing out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Later
that evening, Harrison and several friends explored Marzolf Hill and
found an old building from which a strong and unpleasant odor
lingered. Harrison described it as a "moldy, horse smell or a
strong garbage smell." In the days that followed, he and others
would experience the same smell around areas where the bizarre sounds
were heard.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Once
again we have Momo conforming to some of the standard Sasquatch
behavior. Many people have reported rocks being thrown around in
areas that Sasquatch have allegedly been sighted in. After a few
other people in the town began to have run-ins with Momo, the media
(both local and national) picked up a whiff of the story (or of Momo,
it's hard to tell which). As a small sample of some of the reports,
The Kansas City Star says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Reports
of encounters began to pile up. A man claimed he was chased by a big
hairy beast with red eyes. School kids said they saw it from their
classroom window. Two women picnicking near the river said Momo
chased them to their Volkswagen, then displayed the human-like
intelligence to try and open the door before a blast of the horn
scared it away.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Prairie
Ghosts has an account of the last sighting of Momo that has been
reported:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;During
the last week of July, a series of mysterious three-toed prints
appeared on the Freddie Robbins farm, about eight miles south of
Louisiana. No casts were made of the prints but they were protected
until investigators were able to make diagrams of them. They would
turn out to be an almost exact match of prints found a few days
later. More tracks were discovered on the early morning of August 3
at the farm of Mrs. and Mrs. Bill Suddarth, who lived just northwest
of town. In the middle of the night, they heard a high-pitched
howling in their yard and ran outside with flashlights to see what
was going on. In the middle of their garden, they found four prints
from a three-toed creature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suddarth quickly called his
hunting buddy, Clyde Penrod, who drove over and made a plaster cast
of the print. Penrod, who was an avid outdoorsman, was puzzled by the
whole affair. With the tracks being 20 feet away from anything else,
he couldn't understand how they could have been made. They began
abruptly in the center of the garden and ended just as mysteriously.
It looked as of the three-toed creature had just appeared in the
center of the garden and then vanished. No tracks were found anywhere
else on the property and there was no sign that any prankster could
have made them either. This was the last encounter with the creature
and perhaps it is fitting that the "monster flap" ended on
such an inexplicable note.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;And
with that Momo seemingly vanished back into the woods whence it first
came apparently never to be seen again. What exactly did the people
of Louisiana, Missouri experience back in the summer of 1972? It's
hard to say for sure. The accounts all have the typically bullet
points of a sasquatch encounters including; the overwhelming odor,
the height, and the rock throwing. I would be remiss if I didn't
point out that, at least to my knowledge, this is the only incident
I'm aware of wherein a Sasquatch was reported to have killed and
eaten something. If I've missed another report or account that I
should be aware of please feel free to leave me a comment below. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Before
I go I wanted to leave you all with one last piece of Momo-mania. A
musician by the name of Scott Cooper composed this amazing
masterpiece that was inspired by Momo. It's actually quite a catchy
little tune, you can give it a listen &lt;a href="http://missourifolkloresociety.truman.edu/Momo%20the%20Monster.mp3"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. With that I leave you for
another night. Have a good one Forteans!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Further
Reading:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kansascity.com/2012/07/14/3705018/forty-years-later-debate-over.html"&gt;The Kansas City Star article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.prairieghosts.com/momo.html"&gt;Prairie Ghost Post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread105463/pg1"&gt;Obligatory ATS Thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/ftO7FzhoDVw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/07/momo-missouri-monster-40-yrs-on.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-7941615443737943613</guid><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-07-23T20:14:22.146-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ufology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Above Top Secret</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alien Abduction</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><title>The West Lothian Incident</title><description>&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;It
seems as though every time that I think I've heard just about every
kind of UFO encounter story that exists, a new one pops up and shows
me that (much to my chagrin) I don't know everything. The following
case that we will be looking at is rather famous in the annals of
Ufology and certainly one of the more unique cases that I've come
across. I'm sure many of you will be shocked to learn that I first
heard about this from a thread on AboveTopSecret entitled “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread863581/pg1&amp;amp;addstar=1&amp;amp;on=14599727#pid14599727" style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: large;"&gt;The Dechmont Woods Encounter 1979&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;”. It tells a very fascinating tale of
what happened to a forestry worker by the name of Robert Taylor from
Scotland. The thread lead me to find some additional sources about
Taylor's account. Here it is in a nutshell (source from &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/CaseSubarticle.asp?ID=686" style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: large;"&gt;UFO Evidence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;On
the 9th of November 1979, at around 10.30 am, Robert Taylor, a
forestry worker employed by the Livingstone Development Corporation
parked his pick up off a track at the bottom of Dechmont Law, just
off the busy M8 motorway. He walked up the lower slope of the
forested hill with his dog, and as he emerged into a clearing an
amazing sight greeted him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before
him in the clearing was a large, circular, sphere like object about
twenty feet across. It appeared to be made from a dark metallic
material with a rough texture like sandpaper, parts of which were
transparent. A narrow flange ran around the outside of the
object.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As
he approached, two spheres with protruding metal spikes in the manner
of old navel mines dropped from the object. They were about three
feet wide and made of the same dark metallic substance as the larger
object.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The
two spheres rolled towards him and flanked him, each rolling at the
same time to his left and right foot. With his dog now barking
furiously, the spikes attached to the Bob's trousers and pulled him
towards the larger sphere. Bob heard a distinct hissing sound and
smelled an acrid smell that caused him to choke&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The
next thing he knew he was coming round lying face down on the grass
with his dog nearby. The strange objects had disappeared from the
clearing, his legs were aching, his trousers were torn and he found
he could not speak.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;At
this point Taylor struggled back to his vehicle in order to radio for
help. Unfortunately he still could not speak and so made the decision
to walk back to his home. We'll pick the story up from &lt;a href="http://ufos.about.com/od/aliensalienabduction/a/1979dechmont.htm"&gt;About.com&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Arriving
at this house, his wife was stunned to see his condition. He was
covered with mud, and his pants were torn. He began to tell her the
story of his experience. His wife wanted to call the police, but
Taylor was against it, considering the subject of the matter. He did
allow her to call his job supervisor, and the head of the forestry
department, Malcom Drummond. He took a bath while she made the calls.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Drummond
called a physician, and drove straight to Taylor's house. He was so
anxious to find out what happened that he questioned him while he was
still in the bathtub. Taylor and Drummond agreed that there must be
some kind of physical evidence left on the ground by either the craft
or the small spheres, and Drummond headed to the area to check it
out, but he was unable to find the exact location.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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Gordon Adams arrived and began to check out Taylor's condition. He
found a grazed area on Taylor's left leg, and another graze under his
chin. There were no apparent head injuries. At this time, anyway,
Taylor's body temperature, blood pressure, and other body functions
seemed normal.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Adams called in for an ambulance to transport Taylor
to the hospital for a head X-ray and an interview with a counselor.
Taylor refused to make the hospital visit until later.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Eventually
Taylor would give in and allow the police to become involved in the
case. To their credit, it would seem the police handled the whole
thing quite respectably. Possible because they had never dealt with
any thing like this in the past, but who's to say?  The police were
able to find physical evidence that something had actually landed,
what that something was is (shockingly) up for debate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Whatever
Taylor may or may not have seen it would seem that everyone who knew
him knew that he was a man of his word and was not prone to making up
these kinds of stories. Probably not surprisingly a mundane
explanation has been offered for what Taylor had encountered. Would
you like to take a guess as to which astronomical body makes an
appearance in the explanation? If you guessed Venus then you guessed
correctly, Here from the UFO Evidence post is the explanation in
full:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
main explanation given by Steuart Campbell, is that Bob witnessed a
mirage of Venus, which brought on an epileptic fit and caused him to
hallucinate the whole encounter. Although possible, Bob had never
experienced epilepsy before or after the event, although some of his
symptoms after the encounter are similar to those experienced by
those with epilepsy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Personally
I'm not sure what it was that Taylor saw that November morning back
in 79. I can say that I don't think the Venus explanation really fits
the bill in being an adequate explanation. The last thing I will
leave you with is this mini-documentary on the event in question.
Featured prominently is the witness himself. I don't know what it is
exactly but I enjoy hearing the witnesses themselves give
descriptions of the events that transpired. I guess it's because  it
reminds me that at the heart of these events is a human element that
can often times be overlooked. Whether something genuinely fortean or
otherworldly occurred to Taylor that day it's unlikely that his like
stayed the same after it was all said and done.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;I
finally picked up Nick Redfern's&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Contactees-Alien-Human-Interaction-Nick-Redfern/dp/1601630964/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1342908342&amp;amp;sr=1-1&amp;amp;keywords=contactees"&gt;Contactees: A History of Alien-Human Interaction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;as
of Friday and have already jumped right into reading it. This book
got me thinking and so I started looking into the Conctactee movement
at my usual sources. I thought I would share with you all some of the
more interesting things that I've come across so far. I'm still
hoping that a recent article I had written for a magazine will be
published because it also deals with the Contactee issue, albeit from
a slightly different perspective, but until then this post will have
to tide you over. I still maintain an open mind about the Contactee
movement as I'm not always sure what to make of it. I don't think
the answer is as clear-cut as some would suggest. Namely that all of their accounts are hoaxes that were put on by the
Contactees themselves simply for profit. At the same time I don't
know if they had as many, or as vivid, contacts as they claim.
Regardless I will share with you all the items that I've come across
in my research and leave it up to you to decide what you think of the
Contactees.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Space
Brother Contactees YouTube Documentary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;This
hour-long documentary mostly focuses on Howard Menger's contacts with
the space people. Missing from the documentary is the fact that in
the 1960's Menger appeared on Long John Nebels radio show (as a bit
of background Long John Nebel was the Art Bell of the 50's and 60's
who interviewed the majority of the mover's and shaker's of the
Fortean/UFO fields of the day) apparently recanted his account and
claimed that he was apart of some kind of Army test to gauge the
publics reaction to the idea of alien contact. It's an interesting
documentary that I would recommend especially if you've never heard
of Menger and actually, for that matter, if you have heard of him you
may not have actually heard &lt;b&gt;from
&lt;/b&gt;him
like you can in this video.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;As
a final piece of the Menger case I wised to share with you is this blog post from Outsider
Music expert &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15116623844291424658"&gt;Mr. Fab&lt;/a&gt;, entitled &lt;a href="http://musicformaniacs.blogspot.com/2009/07/authentic-music-from-another-planet.html"&gt;Authentic Music From Another Planet&lt;/a&gt;. It contains a link for you to download
music that Menger claimed he was directed to play by the contactees.
In other words this was music that was channeled through Menger by
his Space Brothers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Emmanuel
Swedenborg – 18th century contactee and theologian&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Born in 1683
Emmanuel Swedenborg was a scientist, philosopher, theologian, and
early Alien Conctatee. In many ways Swedenborg was far ahead of his
time; he had many theories about the neuron, the cerebral cortex, and
the nervous system. In addition to his fascination with anatomy,
Swedenborg spent some of his time diagramming and designing a variety
of “flying machines”. Among some of his other accomplishments, found at &lt;a href="http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/swedenborg-85.php"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; site, there are:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;In the next two
years of his life (1716-1718), Emanuel&amp;nbsp;published a scientific
periodical titled 'Daedalus Hyperboreus'. The periodical held record
of mechanical and mathematical inventions and discoveries. In this
journal, he also mentioned about a flying machine, which he had
earlier referred to in his letter to&amp;nbsp;Eric. Around this time,
Emanuel&amp;nbsp;was also enobled, along with his siblings, by Queen
Ulrika Eleonora and their surname changed to Swedenborg.&amp;nbsp;Emanuel's
scientific inventions include a dry dock of new design, a machine for
working salt springs and a system for moving large boats overland.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;In the field of
biology, Swedenborg stressed on the importance of cerebral cortex.
Apart from these, he drew feasible sketches of futuristic machines,
including an airplane, a submarine, a steam engine, an air gun and a
slow-combustion stove. Emanuel Swedenborg was offered the position of
a professor in mathematics at Uppsala University, in 1724. However,
he declined the offer, because he dealt with geometry, chemistry and
metallurgy mainly, not maths.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;In
1758 Swedenborg published &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Life-Other-Planets-EMANUEL-SWEDENBORG/dp/0877853207"&gt;Life on Other Planets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
which detailed the civilizations and peoples that could be found
living on Jupiter,
Mars, Mercury, Saturn, Venus, and the moon.
At this point many would likely be pointing out that we now know that
those places do not have any life on them. But according to
Swedenborg the planets are inhabited by spirits on other dimensions.
Cop out? Maybe. But then again, who knows? If you would like to know
more about Swedenborg and all of his miscellaneous works and theories
you should check out the following links: &lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The,
at this point almost obligatory, &lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread470913/pg1"&gt;ATS thread&lt;/a&gt; on the topic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://swedenborgproject.org/"&gt;The Swedenborg Project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Swedenborg"&gt;Wiki article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Gabriel Green Presidential Candidate and Contactee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;
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the last contactee that I wanted to take a look at is one of the more
obscure ones out there. Strange considering the man ran for US
President in both 1960 and 1972 as a write-in candidate representing
the Flying Saucer Party. Beyond that rather unique aspect of his
story, Green was pretty much a run-of-the-mill Contactee. He alleged
that in 1957 he met a crew of Space Brothers from the planet Korender
which orbited a star in the Alpha Centuri system. He was also in
contact with his Korendians via telepathy. You can follow this &lt;a href="http://ia700400.us.archive.org/33/items/FlyingSaucers1960/2_Candidate.mp3"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;
here to hear Green being interviewed about his decision to run for
President. The same year that Green was contacted by the Space
Brothers, he founded the Amalgamated &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Flying
Saucer &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Clubs
of America, Inc. Green only published one book which was entitled
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Let's
Face Facts about Flying Saucers.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;
Finding info on Green isn't really easy. If you want to read more
about him the best source that I've been able to come across so far
is his &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Green"&gt;Wiki article&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;That's
about all I've come across so far that really stuck out in my mind.
The Contactee movement is a very interesting aspect of the overall
history of Ufology. It's hard to say whether the Contactees were
liars, hucksters, or hoaxes. Perhaps, we could take them at their
word. It's entirely possible that they had the encounters that they
claimed to have had. As with anything else in the Fortean world the
answers are never a simple matter of black or white. It's mostly a
gray area. (No pun intended!).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/gBh_AgYW4cM" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/07/contactee-thoughts.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>5</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-513715750618623067</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-07-21T16:17:45.202-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">You Tube</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Your Input</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Hauntings</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ghosts</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ghost Hunting</category><title>Tale of the haunted pizza place</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;When
you think of places that are haunted you would likely imagine old
houses, maybe hospitals, or perhaps hotels and motels. But what about
pizza places? If the following video is to be believed then Stocky's
Pizza, a restaurant in Haug&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;hton,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Louisiana&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;is haunted by something that likes to mess with
one employee, Lori Evans, in particular. Th&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;e story comes via a local
radio station, Kiss Country 93.7. From the original article entitled "&lt;a href="http://mykisscountry937.com/stockys-pizza-ghosts-haughton-video/"&gt;Is Stocky's Pizza Haunted? Shocking Surveillance Footage Points to Paranormal Activity [VIDEO]&lt;/a&gt;":&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Many folks believe
in ghosts, but few can say they’ve caught evidence of a haunting on
video. Stocky’s Pizza employee Lori Evans says there’s not only a
ghost haunting the recently opened Haughton, Louisiana pizzeria, but
that it’s far from friendly. And she has some unnerving
surveillance camera footage to prove it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=8325707549801282615" name="more-80929"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Last
Saturday morning, Evans arrived at&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/stockyspizza"&gt;Stocky’s&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;to
find the ice scoop in the middle of the kitchen floor. When the staff
left the night before, it was placed on top of the ice machine where
it’s normally kept.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The discovery was
the proverbial “straw that broke the camel’s back,” Evans tells
Kiss Country.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;A number of
similarly eerie incidents prior to that morning prompted her to scour
the surveillance video to see just what was going on. What she
discovered will make you shiver.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The following video
was recorded on July 14 at a little after 6 a.m. — hours before the
arrival of any of the staffers. Nobody was in the pizzeria at the
time, confirms Evans.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Here in all of it's
glory is the video. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;object class="BLOGGER-youtube-video" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" data-thumbnail-src="http://1.gvt0.com/vi/DnhKTpRrLYE/0.jpg" height="366" width="520"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/DnhKTpRrLYE&amp;fs=1&amp;source=uds" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /&gt;&lt;embed width="520" height="366"  src="http://www.youtube.com/v/DnhKTpRrLYE&amp;fs=1&amp;source=uds" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Personally
I've watched this surveillance footage more than a few times and I
can't really make anything out. Maybe you can see what it is that is
supposed to be taking place and I would certainly appreciate any
input or opinions. Regardless of what is or isn't happening in the
video, the article goes into more detail about some other experiences
that Lori Evans has a had at Stocky's Pizza. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
first thing that happened was when I was standing in the kitchen area
at the dough roller working. All of a sudden a bottle of tobasco
sauce hit me in the back then landed on the ground. I looked back
because the bottle had been on top of the microwave. A server who was
in the dining area actually saw it happen and we were both freaked
out because it flew across room as opposed to just falling from its
spot! We started wondering at that point. The tobasco sauce has been
mysteriously thrown several times and busted on one occasion! Another
time was when we were working and heard a loud crash in the back
hall. When we went to see what it was, there was a broom and a dust
pan both on the floor. They “snap” into a holder on the wall so
they are never on the floor. They’d been hanging there fine all day
with no problems and snap into separate holders, yet both fell????
The motion sensors have gone off twice and the alarm company has
called the owner to come out and check; to find nothing. Several of
us have actually “felt” a presence and had the hair stand up on
our arms/neck. When I came in that morning and found those on the
floor, so far from their spot, I knew it was time to check it out on
tape and we finally found evidence of activity! &lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Follow this link for
the original article from Kiss Country 93.7. I'm not too sure what to
make of Evans' account. It definitely isn't anything out of the
ordinary (ha!) as far as “haunted” places go. Although the
location in this case is a bit unusual, I suppose anywhere can truly
end up haunted. As a kind of post script to this story, in the
comments section below this article Lori Evans states that a ghost
researcher/paranormal investigator has gotten in touch with her in
order to set up an after hours investigation. Hopefully some more
information will come out of this about what's going on. As always be
sure to check out the original link for the full article and be sure
to let me know what you think in the comments below. That's all I
have for now and suddenly I'm craving some pizza, so if you please
excuse me I've gotta get my 'za on!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/W1jXPguroZs" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/07/tale-of-haunted-pizza-place.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-5639767886101917282</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-07-17T20:51:12.918-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Canada</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Your Input</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Above Top Secret</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Creatures</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Random</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><title>RCMP vs the Aliens!</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Hello
dear readers it's been quite some time since last you heard from me,
your friendly neighborhood Fortean. I come today to weave you a
short, albeit interesting, story of the RCMP and their unsuccessful
search for ET. As usual I was on the always fascinating Above Top
Secret when I found this thread that had just moments before
appeared. Entitled “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread861416/pg1"&gt;RCMP search for 'non-human entities' in BC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;”,
it told a harrowing story of one couples narrow escape from
something. Taken from the news link found in the thread the account
is as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Coquitlam Mounties
responded to a call of a man and a woman screaming from their
apartment on Wilson Avenue. When police arrived, the couple told
investigators they had seen two “non-human entities” on their
patio.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Several Mounties
scoured the area in search of the spirited suspects, but turned up
nothing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;RCMP Cpl. Jamie
Chung said there was no indication drugs or alcohol were involved in
the incident, nor could he say whether or not the couple really
believed they saw something other than a human.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
“&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Anything
is possible, I guess,” he told The NOW. “People see ghosts all
the time — who am I to say ghosts don’t exist?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Chung sent out this
tweet Monday morning regarding the incident: “Strange but true.
#cqrcmp went to a report of ET sighting in #PortCoquitlam in the
early morning. Area searched and no aliens found.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;And unfortunately at
the moment that's all we really know about what happened. Actually
I'm hoping that someone that lives in the area might be able to dig
up some more information about what went on that night. I spoke with
RCMP Cpl Jamie Chung earlier on twitter hoping to find out a some
more details about what had occurred.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ATa29_ur7GE/UAYBI1Qsx0I/AAAAAAAABZY/j0HQtDUO8iY/s1600/Twitter+Conversation+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="238" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ATa29_ur7GE/UAYBI1Qsx0I/AAAAAAAABZY/j0HQtDUO8iY/s320/Twitter+Conversation+2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;It's
hard to say what, if anything, the man and woman saw. We know for
sure that they simply described what they had seen as “non-human”(as
evidenced by Cpl Chung's response seen above). I wonder if perhaps
the few media outlets that latched onto this story were a little
hasty in declaring that “aliens” were seen. Then again, even in
his original tweet about the event Cpl Chung himself described what
they were looking for as “aliens”. Hopefully more information
will be brought to light in the coming days about what the witnesses
had actually seen that night.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5beqsiIAr1qz5njno1_1280.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="350" src="http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5beqsiIAr1qz5njno1_1280.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;This
isn't the first time that the town Port Coquitlam has had dealings of
a decidedly “alien” nature however. While on twitter earlier
today someone pointed me to a CE-2 type UFO event that took place in
Port Coquitlam back in August of 1974.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Three young boys;
David Bates, Henry and Steven Tillie, were traveling home around 8 pm
on August 16, 1974. While taking shortcut through some woods, the
boys became aware of a strange high pitched sound which caused the
cat that David was holding to struggle out of his hands and run away
into the forest. As the cat made it's way into the woods, the boys
were shocked to see the cat keel over as if it were sleeping. In fact
they referred to it as “playing dead”. The story continues:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The boys then turned
towards the source of the noise and saw an object approach over the
trees, traveling south or north over the railway bridge spanning the
river. The object had a red light on top and green and white lights
at either end of its length. These lights flashed on and off.
Traveling slowly, the object reversed its course and with an
undulating motion headed for the small cleared area amongst the trees
where the sandpit was situated.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The intensity of the
noise disturbed David so much that his friends said he placed his
hands over his ears and called out for it to stop. However, David
does not recall doing this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The UFO began to
settle down for a landing and the noise became a buzz, the children
claimed. All this took place within a few brief minutes. At that
point the terrified cat recovered and returned to its owner, clawing
David when he picked it up.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The long scratch on
his arm was still visible when I interviewed him in September.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;In a state of
petrified amazement, the boys remained at their point of observation
about 150 feet from the touchdown site. As the object settled down to
land it gave off a blast of hot air that disturbed the ground so
violently the boys were covered in a film of dust.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Immediately prior to
making contact, the object extended short legs, then some action on
the part of the machine caused sand and stones to be sucked upwards
towards it in a violent swirling manner. A few seconds later, the
boys said, "blue sparks came up from the ground as the machine
made contact."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Not
long after this the boys are finally overcome with fear, or perhaps
they came to their senses, and they ran back to the homes. The
article goes into some great detail about the research and
investigation that was done into this event by the author himself. I
highly recommend that you follow this&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: navy;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ufobc.ca/History/1970/close_v2.htm"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;in
order to read it for yourself. Also be sure to check out the original
news articles, '&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: navy;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/Police+respond+sighting+Port+Coquitlam/6942697/story.html"&gt;Policerespond to ET sighting in Port Coquitlam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;'
and '&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: navy;"&gt;&lt;span lang="zxx"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/local/2012/07/16/19994066.html"&gt;TheTruth is out in Poco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;'.
That's all I have for now Fortean faithfuls. Until next time; Stay
Classy Internet!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/sYw0CqJqNqo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/07/rcmp-vs-aliens.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ATa29_ur7GE/UAYBI1Qsx0I/AAAAAAAABZY/j0HQtDUO8iY/s72-c/Twitter+Conversation+2.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-1285992519725421558</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-06-13T17:56:34.190-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Canada</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Recommendations</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Binnall of America</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">interviews</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Paul Kimball</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Mac Tonnies</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Audio</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ETH</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Ramblings</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Podcasts</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cryptoterrestrial</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Closet Anomalist</category><title>Podcast interview!</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Film-maker,
and self proclaimed "outlaw for love",&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://beyonderstv.com/"&gt;Paul
Kimball&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;recently interviewed your's truly on his revived podcast, The Other Side of Truth. You can listen to the
podcast&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://tosot.podbean.com/2012/06/10/tony-morrill-imagining-the-imagination-factory/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.
Here's the description of the episode:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: #ffffff;"&gt;In
this episode, I spend an hour chatting with Fortean researcher /
blogger Tony Morrill, one of the bright youngsters out there who are
interested in the world of the weird and the wacky. In an eclectic
conversation where we throw in everything but the kitchen sink, we
start off with some background information on Tony, and how he became
interested in the paranormal at a young age, and then follow up with
a back-and-forth on everything from UFOs to ghosts to Bigfoot. We
also find time to pontificate / ruminate about posthumanism, tip our
caps to the work of the late Mac Tonnies, Greg Bishop, and Nick
Redfern, and "imagine the imagination factory" - all while
keeping our tongues planted firmly in our cheeks. We even managed to
reference a couple of cartoon characters we like, and I slipped in a
musical interlude that is tangential to the point of being apropos of
nothing, but somehow it still fits. This was a fun episode to record,
and reminded me more than a bit of some of my past conversations with
my pals in the "Cabal". Tony has his feet planted firmly on
the ground, even as he has his eyes set to the sky. It's a good place
to be!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
also suggest checking out his other latest interviews&amp;nbsp;with&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://tosot.podbean.com/2012/06/09/aaron-john-gulyas-o-space-brother-where-art-thou/"&gt;Aaron
John Gulyas&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://tosot.podbean.com/2012/06/11/walter-bosley-not-the-least-hip-guy-youve-ever-met/"&gt;Walter
Bosley&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Additionally,
you can also head over to Binnall of America in order to find my most
recent Fortean Ramblings column entitled "&lt;a href="http://www.binnallofamerica.com/fr061312.html"&gt;We
didn't start the fire&lt;/a&gt;". That's about all I have for now.
Come back soon for shenanigans!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/1iufLC1cTfs" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/06/podcast-interview.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>8</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-8761276842394172112</guid><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-06-05T19:38:44.328-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Recommendations</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ufology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Books</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alien Abduction</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Greg Bishop</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Contactee</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Nick Redfern</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Groups</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Above Top Secret</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ETH</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><title>Demonic UFOs</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Alternatives to the
ETH are always really interesting to me. If you've read this blog at
any time in the past you are likely aware of the fact that I'm always
looking into different explanations for the origins of the UFO and
its occupants. The Cryptoterrestrials as proposed by Mac Tonnies,
Jacques Vallee's theory of UFOs as some form of psychosocial control,
and John Keel's Ultraterrestrials are all different avenues that I
have looked into and spent a lot of time reading about. I've
dedicated an equal amount of time blogging and writing about each of
these alternatives in the past as well. However there is one area
that I've only done a little bit of reading and research into; the
idea that occupants of UFOs are demonic in the Judeo-Christian sense.
The reason for this is that I really find the theory a bit too
limiting and it feels a little like some confirmation bias is going
on.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Still
in the interest of fairness, and to not exclude any idea, I began to
read a recent thread on ATS that delved into this topic. And with a
title like S&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread845470/pg1"&gt;ecular
Researcher's Findings that UFO Activity is not Extraterrestrial in
Origin&lt;/a&gt;, how could I resist? Likewise in the offline world I had a
bit of synchronicity with this topic which I will go into a little
latter in the post. But first let's get to thread from ATS. In the
interest of fairness I feel that I should state upfront that I
definitely do not agree with the posters conclusions. I feel that
he's grasping at too many disparate pieces in order to tie his theory
together and don't personally accept this theory. However I am
bringing the information to you attention because I don't think there
is anything wrong with entertaining an idea. And I figure you should
never shut your self off to any avenue.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The poster went
through a lot of work in order to gather together the information
necessary to formulate their thesis that the UFO phenomena and Alien
Abductions are merely demonic deceptions meant to present a new
gospel and cause people to turn away from the Judeo-Christian faith.
They came to that conclusion based on couple of things; people that
experience the UFO phenomena, especially Alien Abductees, typically
end up experiencing psychic phenomena, many early UFO researchers,
such as Jacques Vallee and John Keel, had come to the conclusion that
the answer to the UFO was not the Extraterrestrial, and finally that
the galaxy is just too large for the prospect of interstellar travel
to be anything more than just a pipe dream. With these things in
mind, the poster ultimately states the following as their
final&amp;nbsp;assessment&amp;nbsp;of the situation;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;The Facts of what we
know to be true:&lt;br /&gt;1. Aliens are inter-dimensional/Spiritual
beings.&lt;br /&gt;2. They do not use interstellar travel.&lt;br /&gt;3. They are
malevolent.&lt;br /&gt;4. Their aim is to deceive man-kind.&lt;br /&gt;5. The film
industry is helping to prepare us for a "grand deception".&lt;br /&gt;6.
"Alien Abductions" stop in the name and authority of Jesus
Christ&lt;br /&gt;7. "Alien Abductions" match the abilities of
fallen angels as described in the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;8. "Aliens"
bring primarily deceptive anti-biblical messages, as is reported by
abductees and contactees.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conclusion:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"extraterrestrials"
are intentionally evangelizing people to an alternate
spirituality&lt;i&gt;(new age)&lt;/i&gt;and are demonic in origin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
will let that information stand on it's own. Again I don't believe
that this is what is going on. I do recommend that you check out the
thread for yourself because there is some great debate that is going
on back and forth from both sides of the argument. I appreciate that
this poster is willing to acknowledge that UFOs seem to encompass
many paranormal events, but I don't agree with the conclusions that
he reaches. Interestingly enough he is not the first person to reach
this kind of conclusion. Writing in his 2010 book,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/EVENTS-Secret-Government-Demonic-Afterlife/dp/1933665483/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1338937295&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Final Events
and The Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and
the Afterlife&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Nick
Redfern tells the story of a group comrpised of Government officials
called the Collins Elite that eventually reached the same conclusion.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The group studied the phenomena by interviewing UFO witnesses and
alien abductees, the Collins Elite would eventually leave the ETH
behind completely in favor of a very dark, and demonic view of the
phenomena. In a very short summary the group believed that the UFO
was just the latest way for this dark demonic force to deceive our
species for the purpose of gaining access to our souls so that the
demonic enemies could quite literally harvest some kind of unknown
energy from it for purposes that were unknown and not well
understood.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I would definitely recommend reading&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Final
Events&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;in
order to get the whole story on this strange group and the even
stranger conclusions that they came to. Once again I don't
necessarily agree with the conclusion that the Collins Elite came to
about the provenance of the UFO, but for argument sake we don't
really know enough yet in order to rule anything out completely. Many
in the Collins Elite felt that perhaps we were being farmed in some
fashion and I can't help but to be reminded of Charles Fort classic
quote: “The Earth is a farm. We are someone else's property.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ah
yes one last thing before I leave you; I had mentioned that I had a
somewhat synchronistic incident involving this whole 'Aliens=Demons'
meme this past week. This past weekend my girlfriend and I were at
our local Books-A-Million and as is typical for me I headed over to
the 'New Age/Paranormal' section to kill some time. The first book
that I happened to pick up was Phil
Imbrogno's&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ultraterrestrial-Contact-Paranormal-Investigators-Explorations/dp/0738719595/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1338937343&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Ultraterrestrial Contact&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;which,
despite the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://forteania.blogspot.com/2011/07/as-i-mentioned-other-night-then-new.html"&gt;controversy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;from
last year, I still intend to read. As I was thumbing through, looking
at the chapter headings, I found a tiny little square piece of paper
which someone had stuck in the book.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xiYtf89CT3o/T86T1FmIx9I/AAAAAAAABVM/PcvuqhuLzZA/s1600/IMG_20120603_141424.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="310" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xiYtf89CT3o/T86T1FmIx9I/AAAAAAAABVM/PcvuqhuLzZA/s320/IMG_20120603_141424.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Intrigued
by what sort of person would put one of these in a book, I decided to
visit the website from the paper on my phone. Unfortunately my phone
had a really bad signal and so the website was taking a while to
load. As I waited for it to come up I wondered if any other books
contained a similar paper or if I had some how grabbed the “lucky”
one. I checked something like 15 or 20 books but only found similar
papers in four of the books. There were three variations of the
message on them. The books I found them in were interesting, because
personally I don't know if I would of picked the same ones had I been
intending to spread this kind of message. I found them in two
Zecharia Sitchin books,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/There-Were-Giants-Upon-Earth/dp/1591431212/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1338937507&amp;amp;sr=8-1" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;There Were
Giants on the Earth&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Wars-Gods-Men-Chronicles/dp/0061379271/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1338937543&amp;amp;sr=8-1" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;TheWars of Gods and Men&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;,
and the last one was in Jim Keith's&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Casebook-Men-Black-Jim-Keith/dp/1935487353/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1308703513&amp;amp;sr=8-5" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Casebook on the Men in Black&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;(which
I reviewed&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://forteania.blogspot.com/2011/06/book-review-jim-keiths-casebook-on-men.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).
In any event they all lead to the same website &lt;a href="http://www.delusionresistanc.org/"&gt;http://www.delusionresistanc.org&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Delusion Resistance
is run by a former MUFON investigator named&amp;nbsp;David Ruffino. You
can read all about him at the site. As I said I had a very
synchronistic feeling when I saw these papers because I was
thinking about the ATS thread, trying to write this blog post and
just generally gathering my thoughts together. And what should happen but I come upon these
papers. It may not mean much to others, but it certainly struck me as
interesting. That's all for now, again I recommend that you head over
and read the thread and draw your own conclusions. Don't let what I
or anyone say influence what you decide or conclude. Also be sure to check out
Nick Redfern's&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: large;"&gt;Final Events&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;as it's a very
fascinating read about the Collins Elite. You can listen to Greg
Bishop's interview with Nick Redfern on this topic &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://radiomisterioso.com/2011/07/23/nick-redfern-final-events-the-u-s-government-and-demonic-ufos/" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: large;"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;. Until next
time I will leave you with a quote that I feel is relevant to this
topic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;The
UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;merely
minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;-John Keel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It
should come as no surprise to anyone that has been in the UFO arena
for any amount of time that there are a myriad of UFO occupants that
have been encountered by many people all throughout the world. One
thing that can be said for sure is that they certainly don't all fall
into the “Gray Alien” meme that has become so popular in our
culture. As I've noted in previous posts (&lt;a href="http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/05/little-green-meme.html"&gt;Little
Green Meme?&lt;/a&gt;) they seem to come in all shapes, sizes, and colors.
And boy that's no exaggeration! Over at AboveTopSecret a member by
the name of karl12 has brought together an awesome thread entitled
'&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread525580/pg1"&gt;UFO
Occupants ~Drawings,Sketches and Non-Human Reports&lt;/a&gt;' which
showcases a large number of the varied&amp;nbsp;Ufonauts seen by people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Below
are just a few of the examples, though I highly recommend that you
check out the thread for more information on each of the cases
included. First up will be The Flatwood's
Monster.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I'm
sure most are familiar with the baisc story of the Flatwood's Monster
so I won't go into too much detail here. From the related ATS&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread434208/pg1"&gt;thread&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_uwkuijPlvM/T77Ck3ANJvI/AAAAAAAABSg/7uNcetmwQGw/s1600/Flatwoods+monster.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_uwkuijPlvM/T77Ck3ANJvI/AAAAAAAABSg/7uNcetmwQGw/s400/Flatwoods+monster.jpg" width="277" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;From
the town of Flatwoods, of Braxton County, West Virginia, comes the
mysterious tale of a burning craft which fell from the sky, and a
mysterious being. The account began in the afternoon of September 12,
1952 when Sheriff Robert Carr and his Deputy Burnell Long received a
call from witnesses who had seen the fiery object as it crashed into
the earth. The unknown object had crashed on the Elk River, south of
Gassaway. The natural assumption was that an airplane had faltered,
and fallen from the skies. Not long afterward, a second unusual
sighting was made by some school buddies at the Flatwoods School.
Shortly before nightfall, four boys playing football saw something
fall on a hill not far from the school playground.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The boys,
at first frightened, succumbed to their youthful curiosity, and
headed for the sight, which was on the property of one Bailey Fisher.
They proceeded up the hill, stopping at the house of Kathleen May,
excitedly telling her of what they had seen. Kathleen and her two
sons joined the search party. Reaching the top of the hill, Mrs. May
remarked that, the night was foggy and there was a mist in the
evening air." " the air had a metallic smell which burned
our eyes and noses." A dog was reported to have ran ahead of the
group only to return with his tail between his legs, frightened by
something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Topping the hill, they could see a "glowing,
hissing" object about 10 feet in diameter, about 100 yards away.
Now completely dark, the night was shattered by two lights, about a
foot apart. One of the boys had a flashlight, and when he turned it
on the two distant lights, a creature ten foot tall appeared.."
a bright red face, bright green clothing, a head which resembled the
ace of spades, and clothing which, from the waist down, hung in great
folds". Suddenly, the creature began to "float" toward
them, sending the group running back down the hill to the May house,
where they quickly called the Sheriff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The boys also called
some of their schoolmates, and when the Sheriff arrived, the scene of
the event was full of locals, who had to see the creature for
themselves. Reporter A. Lee Stewart, of the "Braxton Democrat,"
began interviewing witnesses of the unusual event. He would later
state that all of the observers were extremely frightened by what
they had encountered. Stewart, accompanied by one of Kathleen May's
sons, made their way back to where the creature had been spotted.
Approaching the sight, Stewart was overwhelmed by an odd smell, but
saw nothing unusual. Returning to the exact spot the next morning,
Stewart could observe "skid marks" where some object had
been.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Next
up will be the strange abduction account of a security guard in Italy
named&amp;nbsp;Pier Fortunato Zanfretta. I'll admit I was actually not
terribly familiar with this case before coming across it in
this&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread502042/pg1"&gt;thread&lt;/a&gt;.
The story is as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GujtjMuh5B0/T77CmG0tWlI/AAAAAAAABSw/Qqwhork995M/s1600/Security+Guard+Italy.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GujtjMuh5B0/T77CmG0tWlI/AAAAAAAABSw/Qqwhork995M/s400/Security+Guard+Italy.jpg" width="287" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Shortly
after midnight on December 6th, 1978, Zanfretta was on duty in
Torriglia, a village near Genoa. It was a dark and moonless night. It
was also very cold and snow had fallen during the day so that there
was a dangerous film of ice on the roads. As Zanfretta approached a
client's uninhabited country-house (called "Our Home" by
the owner, Dr. Ettore Righi), in the area of Marzano, his patrol car,
a Fiat 126, mysteriously stopped dead. The car engine, lights and
radio all failed seemingly for no reason. At the same moment he saw
four strange lights moving about in the garden of the house and
stepped outside of his car to investigate with gun and flashlight in
hand.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;At
first he thought that burglars were behind the house. So he walked
through the open gate and crept along a wall in an attempt to
surprise them. But Zanfretta had underestimated the problem and ended
being the one who was surprised by what he had taken for thieves.
Feeling himself touched from behind, the security guard whirled
around and saw something that filled him with terror: only inches
away stood what he called: "An enormous green, ugly and
frightful creature, with undulating skin, no less than ten feet
tall". When he directed the beam of his flashlight on the
being's face, he was so frightened that he dropped it, but quickly it
up again and run away. While running, he became aware of a large and
very bright light behind him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Turning
around, he saw a huge, flat triangular form which was blinding in its
brilliance. Zanfretta shielded himself from the light with his arm.
This thing which he assured was a flying saucer, ascended from the
back of the house. It was bigger than the house itself, and produced
a hissing sound. Later, Zanfretta said that he felt an intense heat.
He made it back to his car and tried to call his security company's
operations center in Genoa. It was 12:15 A.M. Carlo Toccalino, the
radio operator, has testified that Zanfretta was speaking in an
excited and disconnected way. He kept saying: "My God, are they
ugly!".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The operator then asked if "they" were human
and if they were assaulting him. The answer was: "No, they
aren't men, they aren't men". At that point, the communication
were abruptly broken&amp;nbsp;off and Toccalino called the chief of the
security service, Lt. Giovanni Cassiba. An hour later, a couple of
other patrol guards, Walter Lauria and Raimondo Mascia, found
Zanfretta in front of the country-house, lying on the ground. It was
1:15 A.M.. When he saw them, he jumped up, gun and flashlight at the
ready. Eyes bulging, Zanfretta didn't seem to recognize them, nor to
understand when they told him to lower his weapon. The other
patrolmen rushed and disarmed him. To their surprise, his clothes
felt warm even though the December night air was quite cold.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
account continues at this thread; much like Zanfretta's abduction
experiences (bad joke heh). Moving onward; we now turn to another
abduction which allegedly occurred in the Yukon territory of Canada.
The hunter that experienced the abduction actually tells the story in
his own words. It's a bit of a lengthy account, but is highly
fascinating and I would suggest you follow this&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ufobc.ca/yukon/n-canol-abd/index.htm"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;to
read it. Here's an overview of what occurred:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Fy3RaBT0O24/T77Cm-8bFhI/AAAAAAAABS4/AFNlh5en2AU/s1600/Yukon+Hunter.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Fy3RaBT0O24/T77Cm-8bFhI/AAAAAAAABS4/AFNlh5en2AU/s400/Yukon+Hunter.jpg" width="271" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;In
August or September 1987 (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;later
determined to be Wednesday September 2, 1987&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;),
I left Ross River (where I lived) and headed up the North Canol Road
by myself on my motor bike for moose (hunting).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
was planning on spending 3 days in the area between Sheldon Lake and
Macpass. A guy I worked with and a friend of his were to leave a day
later and I was to meet them for some fishing. We were all to stay at
a trailer at Dewhurst Creek.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I left Ross River early in the
morning and the temperature started to drop. Then it started to rain
very hard and very cold. When I got to Gravel Creek, I stopped at Art
John's Cabin and put on extra clothes while standing under the edge
of his roof. I knew the rain would not stop, so I got back on my bike
and headed off.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I arrived at the trailer ½ hour before dark,
very cold and very tired. I lit up a fire, cooked supper and went
straight to bed looking forward to the morning hunt. Over night the
rain had stopped.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;At
daybreak (September 3, 1987) I put my gear and my gun on my bike and
headed towards Macpass. A couple of miles down the road, I was
putting along at about 10 mph looking into the trees and watching the
hillsides. I decided to stop for a pee.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
was standing just in front of my bike watching the mountains to the
south, when I noticed to the left out of the corner of my eye, what I
first thought was an airplane. It was 400 to 500 yards away and about
the size of a DC-3 plane or a full-size school bus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was
travelling north to south, at about 40 yards above ground and moving
maybe 30 km/h. Right away I thought "boy is he low". I
blinked my eyes because I couldn't make out any tail fin or wings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Right
away I thought, somebody must be here and I've got to tell them what
I saw. The noise I heard sounded like a heavy trunk lid on a car
slamming shut.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I quickly walked along the edge of the road to
the corner to see who was there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I came face to face (about 20
yards) with 2 grey creatures in blue jump suits, about 5 ft. tall
with big insect looking heads, pointy faces, big eyes, thin arms,
body and legs. I immediately thought "they're not little green
men*, they're grasshopper people".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Finally
the last one that I want to look at comes from some lumberjacks in
Finland in 1971. I'm including this one just because of the unusual
size and overall characteristics of the entity involved. &lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;From
the &lt;a href="http://www.americanmonsters.com/site/2010/09/kinnula-humanoid-finland/"&gt;account&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-u4EbBxyq914/T77CldMnc-I/AAAAAAAABSo/j8UkPClExbI/s1600/Lumberjack+Finland.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="313" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-u4EbBxyq914/T77CldMnc-I/AAAAAAAABSo/j8UkPClExbI/s400/Lumberjack+Finland.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;On
the snowy, overcast afternoon of February 5, 1971, two Finnish
lumberjacks – 21 year-old Petter Aliranta and 18 year-old Esko
Juhani Sneck – had a close encounter that would haunt them for the
remainder of their days. The fantastic event began at approximately
3:00 pm. when the young duo — who had spent the morning cutting
down trees in the forests near the village of Kangaskyla in Kinnula –
decided to call it a day because the overcast conditions were making
it too dark to continue.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;According
to their account, Aliranta had just turned off his chainsaw, when he
suddenly noticed an odd metallic object hovering at tree-top level.
He claimed that it was shaped like “two saucers” on top of each
other and was about 15-feet in diameter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;At
the bottom of the vehicle there were four thin landing legs with
rounded bases, which he estimated to be more than 6-feet long. If the
craft made any sound it was no doubt overwhelmed by the continued
roaring of Sneck’s chainsaw.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Aliranta
stared in amazement as a weird, green garbed entity to slowly descend
through the open portal from the bowels of the craft.&amp;nbsp; He later
described this unusual entity as being less than 3-feet in height
with its entire body covered in a green, one-piece suit. On the front
of the head was a faceplate that was described as being akin to that
of a scuba diver. Although the creature had arms and legs, the suit
gave no indication of hands or fingers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;You
can follow this link in order to read more of the account and to see
some other artist renditions of the occupants that were encountered
by the lumberjacks. Also as I said earlier you really should go to
karl12's thread in order to see all of the different Ufonauts that
are available. I think it's safe to conclude that
occupants of UFOs are far stranger than just the stereotypical grays
that have been seen over the last twenty-some odd years. I certainly
wouldn't go so far as to say that there are 57 varieties of ETs
visiting our planet, it does however give one pause for
consideration.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Is
our planet some way station for intergalactic tourists? I don't know
for sure. My gut reaction would be to say no. It seems more likely to
me that the phenomena is malleable and there is some combination of
the occupants altering their appearances and the human brain filling
in the gaps of perception. I would certainly be interested in hearing
what you guys think about this. Until next time this is your friendly
neighborhood Fortean Philosopher saying “Stay Classy, Internet!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/jNyfcCTliL8" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/05/ufonauts-many-shapes-sizes-and-colors.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_uwkuijPlvM/T77Ck3ANJvI/AAAAAAAABSg/7uNcetmwQGw/s72-c/Flatwoods+monster.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>3</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-8978917635209391212</guid><pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-05-23T07:54:18.624-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Technology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Groups</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Science</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Researchers</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cryptozoology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Creatures</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cryptid</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bigfoot</category><title>Yeti DNA to be probed</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Yeti
DNA is back in the news once more as Wired.UK is reporting that a new
study is being designed in order to collect samples of the elusive
cryptids DNA. According to the &lt;a href="http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-05/22/yeti-dna"&gt;article&lt;/a&gt;, the Oxford
University and the Lausanne Museum of Zoology are combining their
efforts in order to find the best sample of Yeti remains that can be
tested for DNA. As a part of their goal;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wolfson.ox.ac.uk/academic/GBFs-v/OLCHP"&gt;Oxford-Lausanne Collateral Hominid Project&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;has
been created to try and entice people and institutions with
collections of cryptozoological material to submit it for analysis.
Anyone with a sample of organic remains can submit details of where
and when it was collected, among other data.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Once
a reasonable database has been collected, the team will select the
most interesting samples (hair shafts are particularly desirable,
apparently) and ask the owners to submit them for rigorous genetic
analysis. The results of these analyses will be published in
peer-reviewed journals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;A
member of Wolfson College, Oxford was interviewed by Wired.UK for the
article and he seems to be far more optimistic than I am about their
chance of determining anything meaningful. Bryan Sykes said quote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;"Mainstream
science remains unconvinced by these reports both through lack of
testable evidence and the scope for fraudulent claims. However,
recent advances in the techniques of genetic analysis of organic
remains provide a mechanism for genus and species identification that
is unbiased, unambiguous and impervious to falsification. It is
possible that a scientific examination of these neglected specimens
could tell us more about how Neanderthals and other early hominids
interacted and spread around the world."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;If
you happen to be a group or individual that has what you believe to
be Yeti DNA you can go to the Project's website to find out how to
submit your sample for testing. I wish that I could be a little bit
more excited about this project and in some ways I am. It's great
that a scientific body is taking an aspect of the paranormal
seriously. Although I do have a couple of issues with this kind of
project. I'm not a scientist by any means, but it's my understanding
that at best in these kinds of DNA testing situations they will only
be able to tell what the sample isn't. In other words, this isn't the
first time that supposed Yeti, or Bigfoot, DNA is going to be tested.
The results usually end up being that the sample isn't human, bear,
or any other known large animal. Which I suppose is something. But it
doesn't  really tell us anything for certain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Add
to that the fact that I haven't been convinced that the Yeti, or any
of the giant man-apes for that mattter, are necessarily a physical
flesh and blood creature. After all there are some very paranormal
reports of Yeti's that have been encountered over the years. It may
be that we aren't dealing with a truly 'real' creature in some sense
of the word. In which case DNA testing may not be all that easy.
That's not to say that I don't think the project should not still go
through with it. I could very well be wrong and there could in fact
exist an undiscovered large species of primate that lives in the
remote wilderness of the world. I wish them luck. At the very least
they could rule out some spurious evidence.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I for one hope that
Jeffrey Gonzalez of the &lt;a href="http://www.sangerparanormalsociety.com/index.html"&gt;Sanger Paranormal Group&lt;/a&gt; submits his Bigfoot
DNA evidence for testing. After my slightly negative &lt;a href="http://forteania.blogspot.com/2011/06/black-bear-ur-i-mean-bigfoot-evidence.html"&gt;review&lt;/a&gt; of
Gonzalez's conference held last year to discuss his findings, I spoke
with Greg Bishop who interviewed Gonzalez. In that interview Gonzalez
told Bishop that he was looking for a place to send his sample in for
testing and it sounds as though this could be his best opportunity to
do that. You can listen to that interview at this &lt;a href="http://radiomisterioso.com/2011/06/27/jeffrey-gonzalez-bigfoots-dna/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I'll
certainly keep my ears to the ground on this story because it will be
interesting to see how it develops in the coming days and months.
Feel free to head over to the Project's website for more information
about how to submit a sample if you feel you have one. Until next,
this is your friendly neighborhood Fortean Philosopher saying “Good
night and good luck!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/gIfERD8fcdg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/05/yeti-dna-to-be-probed.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-6768327102076890840</guid><pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-05-18T17:43:29.927-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Groups</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Your Input</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Hauntings</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ghosts</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ghost Hunting</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Above Top Secret</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Photos</category><title>Ghost of Guildford</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
don't often post ghost photos, or posts about ghosts for that matter,
but I couldn't pass this one up only because it struck me as quite
interesting. I first found the photo from an &lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/"&gt;AboveTopSecret&lt;/a&gt; thread [which is evidently my M.O. :)]. The story originally came from &lt;a href="http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/"&gt;GetSurrey&lt;/a&gt;, a news website. The article relates the following from the photographer who allegedly captured the "ghost";&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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 &lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width: 402px;"&gt;
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   &lt;td style="border: none; padding: 0in;" width="402"&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/2193/ghostq.jpg"&gt;&lt;img align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="222" name="graphics1" src="http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/2193/ghostq.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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   &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ghost
    or some kind of image artifact?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;THROUGH
the low light borne from a thick swathe of fog wrapping itself around
The Mount, a featureless figure stands on the path – could this be
a genuine photograph of a ghost captured in Guildford, or is it a
mere trick of the light?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.1in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Amateur
photographer, Mark Baker, 37, who took the picture has no idea, but
does think it strange the series of pictures he took last week when
trying out a new camera timer appeared to show a white form when he
downloaded them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.1in; margin-left: 0.98in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Mark,
who was sitting in his van, using his new equipment when he took the
photos, said: “I have just got a new timer for my camera and wanted
to get some photos of the fog lifting – so my camera was just
taking pictures.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.1in; margin-left: 0.98in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It
was not until I got home and was downloading, I noticed it,” he
said, adamant he had not digitally altered the image in any way. “The
black specks are dirt on the windscreen of my van, but the image is
way past that.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.03in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
concept of taking a photograph without seeing anything anomalous,
only to find something after the film has been processed (or
downloaded nowadays), is really quite common within the ghost hunting
side of the paranormal. Additionally the area of Guildford, which
is located in Surrey, UK, where the photo was taken has a history to it that, at least according to ghost hunters, would be conducive to allowing for ghostly manifestations to occur. It was the location of where
the town's executions were carried out in the past. The author of the article
interviewed Phil Hutchinson who not only runs the Ghost Tour of
Guildford, but who also is a member of the Ghost Club that is, at
least according to the article, is “one of the world’s oldest
organisations associated with psychical research”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.03in;"&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.03in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Hutchinson
is quoted as saying:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.01in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
do not think it is fake,” he said. “It is not the sort of photo I
was expecting, almost always they are illuminated bits of dust on the
flash – this is something very different.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.1in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Mr
Hutchinson said the only sightings he had heard related to The Mount
previously came from council workers at Henley Fort who claimed to
have seen a man walking his dog disappear before their eyes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.1in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;This
is one of the best ghost photographs I have seen for some time,
however, I think it is an amazing trick of the light, although that
does not mean I am convinced – it is symmetrical and has about the
height and dimensions of a human form.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.03in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;According
to both the original article and also the AboveTopSecret thread, a local ghost hunting group by the name of &lt;a href="http://www.ghostfinder.co.uk/"&gt;The GhostfinderParanormal Society&lt;/a&gt; conducted an investigation of the site around
which the photo was taken. A part of their investigation can be
viewed no the YouTube video below.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.03in;"&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
head of The Ghostfinder Paranormal Society had this to say about the photo:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Barri
Ghai, director of The Ghostfinder Paranormal Society, also believed
the photos were free of doctoring. He said: “I am stuck for words
on this one – these images have caused quite a stir amongst my
team.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.1in; margin-left: 1.01in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;We
are actually convincing ourselves that this could be genuine, a real
ghost, but obviously for us to say that without a full investigation
of the area is a tough one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0.1in; margin-left: 1.01in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;At
first glance I thought it could be a light anomaly, 99% of all photos
have an explanation and my impression would be an anomaly caused by
the light and camera.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.07in; margin-right: 0.01in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Follow
this &lt;a href="http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2110784_experts_confounded_by_the_ghost_of_guildford"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; in order to view the article for yourself.
Additionally you can head over to the AboveTopSecret &lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread830208/pg1"&gt;thread&lt;/a&gt; to find
the original post I read and to hear from one of the members of The
Ghostfinder Paranormal Society. So, what exactly did Mark Baker
photograph? Who knows? I will say that this photo certainly looks far
better than any of the “orb” photos that I have seen and
certainly ranks right up there in my mind with the photos that I
originally discussed in this earlier post. I'm by no means a
photo-analyst and so can only offer a layman's opinion. It looks
really good. But I'm reserving calling it a photo of a ghost. I'm
willing to say that the photo is extremely strange and I'm interested to hear what you guys think about it. If you have any
ideas please feel free to comment below and let me know.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/7varqJbUwhw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/05/ghost-of-guildford.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-7175656045717611690</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-05-15T08:01:11.988-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Mass Hysteria</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ufology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Above Top Secret</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ETH</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Government</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Media</category><title>UFOs, USOs, and Alien Death Rays!</title><description>&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Central and South America have long been home to some of the more bizarre aspects of the UFO phenomena. One incident that stands out in my mind was the subject of an amazing thread over at my favorite gold mine; Above Top Secret. Like a diamond in the rough I seek only to bring you what stand out as the best of the best among the often questionable threads that exist on that site. The thread focuses on the 1977 UFO flap that the tiny Brazilian island of Colares experienced for a period of months during which time many photos and videos of UFOs were taken,  people were injured, and allegedly at least two persons died from their interaction with the UFOs. And, as a slight follow up to my most recent post, the case had more than a few USOs thrown into the mix for good measure. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Starting in August of 1977, Colares began to experience an unusual phenomena which the local residents called Chupa-Chupas. These chupa-chupas were odd luminous objects that would hover around the town at night and would often shoot out thin beams of light that would strike the townspeople. Many of those that were struck would report feeling as though their blood had been drained by the lights. One resident offers what occurred to him in the early days of this bizarre episode.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 1.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;The barber Carlos Cardoso de Paula (aged 49), living at Travessa Deodoro da Fonseca No. 231, had a still closer encounter with the "lights", as he himself relates:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 1.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;"Everybody else was asleep. I was just still having my last smoke when suddenly a ball of fire entered our house up near the ridgepole of the gable. It started shooting round and round the room, and then finally came right close to my hammock.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 1.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;"It ran up my right leg as far as the knee (without touching my skin). I watched with much curiosity as it then moved across to the other leg. Then I started to feel feeble and sleepy. My cigarette fell from my hand and I came to and let out a yell. The fireball quickly vanished and everybody woke up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 1.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;"I think it had been searching for a vein in my body but didn’t manage to do so. As its brightness grew, I felt a sort of heat coming from it."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 1.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;(account taken from UFO Casebook)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 1.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.04in; margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; As the interaction with the strange objects began to increase the people of Colares started to suspect that perhaps the UFOs were trying to make contact with the people. Whether this is the case or not, the chupa-chupas were having a kind of contact with the residents. Many people, after having been struck by the beams from th UFOs, sought medical attention due to anemia (again the lights seemingly draining the person of their blood) or just general weakness from having been knocked unconscious by the beams. What's interesting to note is that many of the townspeople felt that the UFOs originated from and underwater base near by the oceans of the town and after a night of draining the residents blood, the lights would return to their base.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.04in; margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.04in; margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; The nightly sieges became so frequent and unbearable that the majority of the women and children in Colares left the area to stay with friends and family in other nearby villages. The men remained and attempted to build bonfires in order to ward off the strange attacks of the chupa-chupas. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1.01in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;By November 1977 doctor Wellaide Cecim Carvalho, the physician in charge of the health unit on Colares Island, took care of to some 35 people claiming to have been touched by the strange light.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 1.01in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;She took blood samples, and concluded that the victims suffered from generalized hypertermia, superficial chronic headache, burnings, intense heat, nauseas, tremors in the body, giddiness, asthenia and presented very small orifices in the skin where they were hit by the rays.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 1.01in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;She wrote: "All of them had suffered lesions to the face or the thoracic area." The lesions, looking like radiation injuries, "began with intense reddening of the skin in the affected area. Later the hair would fall out and the skin would turn black. There was no pain, only a slight warmth. One also noticed small puncture marks in the skin. The victims were men and women of varying ages, without any pattern."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.04in; margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Up until this time it seems as though no one had yet witnessed any entities associated with these  lights. That is until the following account;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.95in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;This was the case of Claudomira, resident in the Island of Colares. She claims that her family already did not sleep right with fear of the devices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.95in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;"In one of these days, after midnight, I woke up because of a strong flash, a sort of focused bright green light ray that came down from the top roof to my left chest. I tried to shout, but my voice did not function. I felt an esquisite heat... Later, that beam of light diminished and I saw that I was burnt."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.95in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Claudomira told that she sighted a strange object, much similar to an umbrella, from which a being of clear skin, oriental eyes, and great ears.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.95in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;According to her, the creature was dressed in tight green clothes and had a sort of pistol in the hand, which emitted the luminous beam. At this moment, Claudomira felt perforated as by needles on her breast.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.95in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;"After this, I felt a migraine headache and a great weakness, that left me collapsed for several days."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.04in; margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; Eventually the military of Brazil would get involved in the case. The &lt;/span&gt;COMAR (Comando Aéreo Regional, the Regional Air Command of the Brazilian Air Forces) came to the region in order to investigate the strange occurrences. According to UFO Casebook, the Air Force made four films and hundreds of photographs of the chupa-chupas under a project titled Operation Plate (for Saucer, at least according to the UFO Casebook folks).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.04in; margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.04in; margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;There is a whole lot more to this case and I suggest that if you are really interested be sure to check out the reading list I will put at the bottom of this post. What really happened back in the fall of 1977 to the residents of Colares? It's hard to say for sure. Many may say mass hysteria, but I don't know of many cases of mass hysteria that cause people to have anemia. And mass hysteria probably doesn't film or photograph all that well. Oh, I almost forgot I had earlier mentioned that at least two persons were reported to have died because of their encounters with the chupa-chupas. Well I could find an account of only one person that died after having interacted with the lights.  According to UFO Casebook;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;One of the most interesting cases she took care of happened with a lady who had cardiac problems. She arrived at the doctor's office very nervous and immediately she showed her left breast, in which were two strange holes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;She complained of giddiness, shortness of breath, and weakness - characteristic symptoms already known by people hit by the phenomenon. The doctor tried to calm her and she returned to her home.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;But at about 03:00 pm, however, Dr. Wellaide was called to the residence of the woman, who had become very sick. Her whole body was still, and she gasped for air, but she did not have fever and did not vomit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Seeing the seriousness of the situation, the doctor took her to a hospital in Belém.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.96in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;Hours later, she received the medical papers and the certificate of death forwarded by the Medical Institute Legal Renato Chaves, which stated a heart stroke as cause of the death.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;That's all for now. Be sure to follow these links to learn more. And remember, evidently not all UFOs are necessarily friendly!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ufocasebook.com/colares1977.html"&gt;UFO Casebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://ufos.about.com/od/bestufocasefiles/p/colares.htm"&gt;About.com Info&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mufon.com/bob_pratt/colares.html"&gt;MUFON&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="western" style="margin-right: -0.01in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread454886/pg1&amp;amp;addstar=1&amp;amp;on=6140426#pid6140426"&gt;AboveTopSecret Thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/vLlbaYo0ZdE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/05/ufos-usos-and-alien-death-rays.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-6567742824883769544</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-05-04T13:56:22.440-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">OINTS</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Above Top Secret</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Paul Kimball</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Best Evidence</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ivan T Sanderson</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><title>USOs</title><description>&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;An
extremely fascinating and often overlooked aspect of the UFO
phenomena are USOs. USO,  Unidentified Submerged Objects, are exactly
what they sound like; namely underwater UFOs. Considering that over
70% of our planet is covered by water, it should come as no surprise
that a large proportion of UFO sightings deal with bodies of water.
Whether the craft is seen entering, exiting, or both, there are a
large number of sightings that deal with this aspect of the
phenomena.  With this phenomenon in mind, a moderator over at
AboveTopSecret made a thread that called for people to help him sift
through the reports of USOs in order to pull out the really intriguing gems.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; I
realize that the thread, found &lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread440363/pg1"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, is fairly old but it got me to
thinking about this unusual phenomenon again.  One of the
sites that the thread mentions is a great repository of some of the
USO reports that have been compiled together in chronological order.
The website, that you can see  &lt;a href="http://waterufo.net/menu.htm"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, is truly a one-stop shop for
all things USO. The site is run by Carl Feindt,
a retired aircraft engineer and ex-military man,
and it has a wide variety of topics within the category of USOs for
one to get lost in. The chronology of sightings is just one of the
available resources that can be found there. I can't recommend the
site highly enough. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; For
that matter, getting back to the ATS thread, I would recommend that
you read through the posts there as many members picked some of the
more interesting and intriguing cases of USO sightings. But if you're
really interested in learning about this phenomenon I can't recommend
Ivan T Sanderson's &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Residents-Reality-Underwater-UFOs/dp/1931882207/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1336000592&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Invisible Residents: The Reality of UnderwaterUFOs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; highly enough. In &lt;i&gt;Invisible
Residents, &lt;/i&gt;Sanderson lays out
his non-ETH theory of what might be behind the UFO/USO phenomena. 
Sanderson speculates on the existence of what he terms to be OINTS or
Other Intelligences which represent a secretive parallel civilization
that shares the planet with us, albeit in underwater bases. For
Sanderson, UFOs represent this civilizations ability to reach the
stars. He picks out more than one occurrence where people have
sighted craft entering the ocean from what seems to be high up in the
atmosphere and the reverse where the craft descends from high in the
atmosphere only to “crash” into the water at high rates of speed.
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Among
these reported&amp;nbsp;occurrences, Sanderson relates what may be one of the
more widely known examples of a USO; The Shag Harbor incident. This
case was even included in &lt;a href="http://redstarfilms.blogspot.com/"&gt;Paul Kimball&lt;/a&gt;'s 2007 documentary &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/19717064"&gt;BestEvidence: The Top Ten UFO cases&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
coming in at a respectable #6. You can watch that clip below. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;For
those that can't view the clip allow me to sum up Shag Harbor for
you. It began on the evening of October 4, 1967 on the tip of Nova
Scotia, Canada in a small village called Shag Harbor. Five local
teenagers were watching four flashing orange lights that were dancing
in the sky suddenly dive at a 45 degree angle towards the water
below. Initially believing that they were witnessing a plane that was
about to crash, witness phoned the local authorities. Much to their
surprise however, instead of crashing into the water the craft began
to hover right above the surface for a distance of about a mile and a
half.  While the witness were phoning in to the police, RMCP
Constable Ron Pound was making his way down Hwy #3 and was also
watching the same amazing spectacle. He was under the impression that
the four lights were in fact attached to the surface of one immense
craft which he estimated to be some 60 ft in length. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Eventually
NORAD and dive teams would be sent to the scene in order to
investigate the occurrence only to leave empty handed concluding only
that an object of “unknown origin” had crashed in the Harbor that
night. It wasn't until the early 90's that the full story of what
happened came out. MUFON investigators Chris Styles and Doug Ledger
discovered by interviewing the original witnesses that there was a
whole other part of the story that had yet to be revealed. From the
&lt;a href="http://www.ufocasebook.com/Shagharbor.html"&gt;UFOCasebook&lt;/a&gt; site:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The
divers, along with other witnesses related these events: The object
that dove into the waters of the harbor had soon left the Shag area,
traveling underwater for about 25 miles to a place called Government
Point, which was near a submarine detection base. The object was
spotted on sonar there, and Naval vessels were positioned over it.
After a couple of days, the military was planning a salvage
operation, when a second UFO joined the first. Common belief at the
time was that the second craft had arrived to render aid to the
first.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;At this
time, the Navy decided to wait and watch. After about a week of
monitoring the two UFOs, some of the vessels were called to
investigate a Russian submarine which had entered Canadian waters. At
this point, the two underwater craft made their move. They made their
way to the Gulf of Maine, and putting distance between themselves and
the chasing Navy boats, they broke the surface, and shot away into
the skies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; Whatever
USOs ultimately turn out to be, they are certainly a fascinating part
of the entire UFO phenomena. They are an unappreciated part of the
UFO picture that are not given the attention that they rightfully
deserve. As is often said, we know more about the surface of the moon
then our planet's oceans and seas. So if there does exist a parallel
civilization that is terrestrial in origin, or even extraterrestrial
origin, there would be no better place for them to set up shop for
whatever purpose they  are here to accomplish. To learn more, visit
the Water UFOs site and definitely be sure to pick up Sanderson's
book. Well until next time this is your friendly neighborhood Fortean
reminding you to not only keep your eyes to the sky, but also on the
oceans. You just never know which direction the next UFO sighting
maybe coming from.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/wZvN2tZitRU" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/05/usos.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>3</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-2489635962994217117</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-05-01T21:17:56.911-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Other opinions</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ufology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Binnall of America</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ETH</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Article</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Random</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Magazine</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ashley's Take</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Photos</category><title>Little Green Meme?</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Almost
a year ago I emailed an editor of one leading UFO magazine about
potentially writing an article for them for publication. I sent some
of my work that I had written up to that point and he seemed
interested in me potentially expanding one of my original articles
for&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.binnallofamerica.com/fr.html"&gt;Binnall of
America&lt;/a&gt;. So with that in mind I worked somewhat diligently at the
task for a few months. At the same time I commissioned my
girlfriend&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://varuff.blogspot.com/"&gt;Ashley&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;to
do artwork that would appear in the magazine. Eventually for reasons
that I'm still not too sure of the article never appeared in the
magazine (I think the editor quit and then the magazine folded or
something) and because of this I've sat on the article for quite some
time. But I've finally decided to share it with you guys, including
Ashley's original artwork, to help me get back into the swing of
regular updates as I'm out of school for the summer. Presented below
is the article in it's entirety (be warned it's a bit lengthy, after
all it was going to appear in a magazine). Hope you enjoy!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Little Green
Meme?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;When the modern UFO era
began after Kenneth Arnold’s 1947 sighting of objects near Mount
Rainier, Washington sightings of flying saucers began to be reported
from all over the world. Not long after these sightings people also
began to report seeing the occupants of the disks. People from all
different walks of life were apparently sighting a myriad of strange
creatures. In South America little hairy dwarves were sighted, while
in other parts of the world the sightings of 9 foot tall
monstrosities were reported. But whenever anyone refers to the
occupants of these crafts, especially in the 'mainstream' media they
only speak of “little green men”. The reason for this is the
events of the Kelly-Hopkinsville Case, the aftermath of which is that
the term “little green men” would enter the vocabulary of the
population and became an infective meme that would be with Ufology
for years to come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;On an August night in 1955,
Billy Ray Taylor and his wife were visiting the family of Lucky
Sutton. The Suttons; Vera Sutton, JC Sutton, Alene Sutton, and three
Sutton children, lived in the rural town of Hopkinsville, Kentucky.
Glennie Lankford, June Taylor and O.P. Barker were also visiting the
Lucky Sutton house. Early in the evening Taylor went outside of the
Sutton house in order to get some water from the outside pump. Just a
few minutes later Taylor rushed back into the house exclaiming that
he had just seen a flying saucer fly over the house, hover around the
woods, and descend into a gully located nearby the home. No one in
the family took Taylor's claim seriously as no one went outside to
investigate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EOo1xC0kWls/T6CGtv8tHJI/AAAAAAAABA4/ZKLT71rMBec/s1600/realufomag.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EOo1xC0kWls/T6CGtv8tHJI/AAAAAAAABA4/ZKLT71rMBec/s320/realufomag.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;An hour later the Sutton’s
dog began to bark, so Lucky and Taylor grabbed their guns and went
outside to see if they could find what was upsetting the dog. The
frightened dog ran under the house and would not return until the
following morning. While outside of the house, Lucky and Taylor were
amazed to see a 3½ ft tall being approaching them with its arms
raised up. They later described the being to researchers as having a
large round head, long thin arms that extended nearly to the ground,
and legs that did not appear to move. The hands of the being were out
of proportion to the rest of its body, and looked more like the
talons of a bird than human hands. While the being's eyes appeared to
be glowing with a fire that was the shade of yellow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983499"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Being the good country folk
that they were, Lucky and Taylor decided to shoot first and ask
questions later. When the bullets from their rifle and shotgun struck
the creature it back flipped, landed on its feet, and ran back into
the darkness. At this point the men went back into the house to check
on the family and tell them what had happened. When they rejoined the
group in the living room they were astonished to see the same, or
similar to it, being at the window. Again, Lucky and Taylor took a
shot at the creature. This caused the being to flip backwards and
retreat into the shadows. At this time the men were certain that they
had either killed or at least wounded the creature(s), so they went
outside to see if they could locate the bodies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983499"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Taylor walked outside, but
paused on the porch for just a moment. Suddenly, from the roof, a
talon reached down and grabbed his hair. Alene pulled Taylor back
into the house. Lucky fired upon the creature which caused it to
release Taylor and fall from its perch. At this point, it’s not
clear who, but someone noticed that one of the beings was in the
tree. So both Taylor and Lucky fired at the creature knocking it from
the limb, however, instead of falling straight down, the being
appeared to float in a falling leaf motion to the ground.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983499"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This attack lasted for a
little while longer before the group could no longer stand it.
Everyone ran to their cars and took off towards the police station in
Hopkinsville. When they arrived and began telling their story, it was
obvious to the officers on duty that something had happened to these
people as they were clearly shaken. A few sheriffs’ deputies and
the chief of police, Russell Greenwell, accompanied the Suttons and
Taylors back to the house. Once the police arrived they searched for
a long time, but could find no apparent trace of anything out of the
ordinary. They did, however, see plenty of buckshot meaning that
shots had been fired on the grounds of the home that night. The
police couldn’t directly tie the buckshots to the sightings of the
numerous beings, however in a few places that Taylor and Lucky had
fired on the creatures there appeared to be a strange green
luminescence on the ground, the source of which the police were never
able to determine. A photograph was taken of the luminous patch of
grass but a sample was not collected, upon returning the following
day the patch had mysteriously disappeared. Police also interviewed
neighbors that live close to the Sutton house, most reported not only
seeing strange lights flying around in the sky that same night but
also heard the gunshots that came from Lucky and Billy’s guns.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983499"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Ultimately unable to truly
prove anything, the police left the family to resume their duties. A
little later that night once the police had finally gone and the
family tried to go to sleep, Glennie Lankford spotted another one of
the creatures back at the same window and told her son Lucky. Of
course Lucky wanted to shoot it, but Glennie told him not to as the
creatures, although certainly bizarre, had actually done nothing to
harm them that night. Lucky fired at the creature anyway and once
again the bullet had no effect and the creature retreated back in to
the darkness. The being’s presence at the home lasted until dawn.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983499"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The following day the story
was repeated in the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Kentucky New Era&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;Newspaper and
the Sutton Farmhouse became a huge tourist attraction. The family was
interviewed about the events of that night and no matter how many
times the story was recounted it was always the same. A man named
Andrew Ledwith, who worked with WHOP a radio station in a nearby
town, interviewed each of the seven adults involved in the incident
separately and each told the same story and described the creatures
almost identically. Except that the female witnesses thought that the
creatures had a more husky build than what the male witnesses
described. Ledwith, who was also an artist, was one of the first
people to illustrate what the witnesses saw. As later newspapers
picked up the story over the weeks and months that followed, they
began to refer to the beings as “little green men” although the
original descriptions had been that they were in silver suits or were
silver themselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OfLCqFtk5X4/T6CIQDk-dII/AAAAAAAABBA/fgKAJpscKKE/s1600/ufomag2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OfLCqFtk5X4/T6CIQDk-dII/AAAAAAAABBA/fgKAJpscKKE/s320/ufomag2.jpg" width="245" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;After the initial media
attention, people began to swarm the Sutton house. If the Suttons
believed that the worst of their ordeal was over they were sadly
mistaken. They were inundated with people seeking proof, stories, or
in some cases even autographs. Sadly this was not all that the Sutton
family had to deal with. Local public opinion almost immediately
labeled the incident as a hoax. Eventually the family could no longer
take all of the negative publicity and they started to charge the
thrill seekers that came to see them. This only fueled the charges
that the family was hoaxing the entire event simply to exhort money
from people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Sheriff’s department,
to its credit, took the family at their word. Chief of Police,
Russell Greenwell had a few things to say about what had happened
that night. When he described his initial meeting with the Sutton
Family the night of the events he said that they appeared to have
been frightened “beyond reason, not ordinary”. He would also
remark to Ufologist Isabel Davis that when he and the other officers
arrived at the Sutton household that, “In and around the whole
area, the house, the fields, that night, there was a weird feeling.
It was partly uneasiness, but not entirely. Everyone had it. There
were men there that I’d call brave men … they felt it too.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983503"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The local police were not
the only group to get involved in the investigations or to take what
happened seriously. The US Air Force, upon hearing about the
incidents, sent officers from the nearby Fort Campbell to do some
investigations. Although the Air Force investigation also turned up
empty handed for any kind of concrete evidence, this incident remains
as an open case to this day. Project Blue Book, the official Air
Force UFO investigation from the time period, never did an official
investigation but kept a file on the incident none the less. They
labeled the case as an 'unknown' which is something they were not
very fond of doing at the time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983503"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Eventually the family got
completely fed up with all of the attention they were getting, so
they sold the property to extended family and moved away. To this
day, the surviving witnesses to the event are hesitant to ever talk
to anyone about the case. Although on the rare occasion that they
have told anyone their stories, they are exactly as they were on that
late night oh so many years ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983503"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Persons that were skeptical
of the case almost immediately came forward with alternative theories
as to what the Suttons may have actually seen that night. One of the
most obvious alternative explanations was that the family simply
hoaxed the entire event. As it stands, although others may have also
seen unidentified lights in the sky that night, only the families
involved in the incidents ever claimed to have actually seen the
beings. The local community seemed to accept this theory pretty
readily at the time, as a matter of fact they wrote the entire saga
off as a drunken hoax that had simply gotten out of hand. It's
unlikely that this was the case as Glennie Lankford was known for not
allowing the consumption of alcohol at her house, especially when
young children were present.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983503"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;In any event it wasn't too
long before a member of the Air Force was ready to offer a very
down-to-earth explanation for the strange firefight that had occurred
on that August night just two years prior. Speaking in 1957 U.S. Air
Force Major John E. Albert came to the conclusion that what Lucky and
Taylor had been shooting at was none other than an escaped monkey
from a circus that was dressed in silver. There are a few problems
with this explanation however. While it is true that a circus was in
town during the week of the sightings, the circus never reported
losing a monkey. Additionally if Lucky and Taylor shot nearly as many
times at the creatures as they have said, there would have been a
body of some kind that was discovered by the Police or other
investigators that night.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_449983503"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The most recent terrestrial
explanation for what had occurred that night was first proposed by
French Ufologist Renaud Leclet. He suggested that perhaps the beings
the family had sighted that night, were in fact Great Horned Owls.
The owls would match the descriptions of the beings 'glowing' eyes
and would explain some of the apparent otherworldly abilities
displayed by the entities. As the owls fly silently it is unlikely
that either Lucky or Taylor would have heard the owls flying around
from say a limb to the top of the porch. Another part of this
explanation that would seem to solve this case, is that the Great
Horned Owl aggressively defends its nest. Perhaps, the theory goes,
when Lucky and Taylor first started firing on the beings they must
have accidentally hit the owls nest causing them to attack for most
of the night. The problem with this explanation is not unlike the
circus monkey theory. Where are the bodies? At many times Lucky and
Taylor apparently hit the beings dead on, so if they were simply
misidentifying owls, bodies would or should have been found somewhere
at the house. Not only that none of these theories can explain the
luminescence patch of ground that was seen, nor the very eerie
feeling that was reported by all present at the house the night of
the siege.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;
&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m39kQSpUu88/T6CISINxSiI/AAAAAAAABBI/9QfmomrOgnU/s1600/Great_Horned_Owl.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m39kQSpUu88/T6CISINxSiI/AAAAAAAABBI/9QfmomrOgnU/s320/Great_Horned_Owl.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0in; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;As with most cases of UFO
occupant accounts, the skeptics are still skeptical and the believers
still believe in the basic validity of the story. No official
explanation has ever been offered by either the police that
investigated nor by the Air Force. The surviving members of the
incident still maintain that the testimony that was given on that
fateful night in 1955 is what actually occurred to them. The legacy
of the case, besides offering yet another anecdotal story of human /
non-human interaction, is the term 'Little Green Men'. The term has
become a meme that has been picked up by people ever since. To this
day you will still hear people mockingly refer to the occupants of
UFOs as little green men. The next time you hear this, you can smile
knowing where this term originated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="western"&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/tuDKs5-vKXw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/05/little-green-meme.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EOo1xC0kWls/T6CGtv8tHJI/AAAAAAAABA4/ZKLT71rMBec/s72-c/realufomag.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>6</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-8508229003374309660</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-02-07T20:15:49.225-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Zombies</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Other opinions</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bullshit</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Beliefs</category><title>Grave couldn't hold this musician</title><description>&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It's been said that the only things certain in life are death and taxes, but in the case of a South African musician death may not be so certain after all. Apparently not even the grave could hold this talented artist. From The &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/"&gt;Guardian&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The South African music scene has been rocked by the claim that a Zulu singer has returned from the dead. Police are investigating a man who says he is Khulekani Mgqumeni "Kwakhe" Khumalo, one of the best known figures in traditional maskandi music, who died in December 2009.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"It really is him," Khumalo's grandmother, Zintombi Mseleku, told South Africa's Sunday Tribune. Mseleku is one of several relatives - including the singer's daughter and two common-law wives - who insist the man who appeared on 29 January is the person they laid to rest two years ago, at a funeral attended by many local politicians and journalists. "There is no way I can get confused over Kwakhe," Mseleku said. "He is looking a little worn, and his cheeks are less chubby, but it's him."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Perhaps not surprisingly many local officials are begging to differ. The article continues:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Officials are less convinced. The purported Khumalo was arrested on Monday and questioned by police. They have taken fingerprints and DNA samples; test results are due later this week. If the man's DNA matches the material on file, officials are expected to exhume the musician's body. Otherwise, he may be charged with fraud&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Not content with simply keeping him for his musical ability, Khumolo told curious onlookers that had gathered at his house that he was to be turned into a Tokoloshe. Which, according to Bantu and Zulu traditions, is a dwarf like water sprite that is said to be quite mischievous in its behavior.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2012/2/7/1328617398324/Tokoloshe-from-African-fo-007.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2012/2/7/1328617398324/Tokoloshe-from-African-fo-007.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Tokoloshe mask (from the Guardian article)&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Personally I'm going to file this one under the "interesting if true" category. Follow this &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/feb/07/zulu-folk-singer-risen-dead?newsfeed=true"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to read the rest of the article. South Africa has a rich culture of supernatural beliefs which seem to make Khumalo's story a bit more easier to swallow. Honestly if you are interested in learning more about their beliefs I suggest you check out this &lt;a href="http://www.eshowe.com/article/articlestatic/65/1/13/"&gt;site&lt;/a&gt;. I found it to be pretty informative. In the end, I suppose we will have to await DNA testing to prove that this musician has found a way to conquer death. Or if a fairly clever con-artist has a found a new scheme.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/wTokAoYeHmo" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/02/grave-coulnt-hold-this-musician.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>1</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-9019307945043065826</guid><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-01-25T22:48:33.883-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Other opinions</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fish Falls</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Charles Fort</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean Phenomena</category><title>The fishmonger strikes again!</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;

 
 
 


&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Recently
Fort's Fishmonger paid a visit to the Philippine province of&amp;nbsp;Agusan
del Sur. Writing in&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=767997"&gt;The Philippine Star&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.philstar.com/ArticleListByAuthorName.aspx?AuthorName=Jaime+Laude"&gt;Jaime Laude&lt;/a&gt;
relates an old school Fortean story.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Small
fish of still unknown species mysteriously fell from the skies over
Loreto town in Agusan del Sur Friday afternoon during a heavy
downpour, leaving residents and officials baffled and amused.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Blance
Gobenciong, Office of Civil Defense (OCD) director in Caraga,
confirmed the phenomenon but offered no explanation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;National
Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council (NDRRMC) executive
director Benito Ramos also could not provide an explanation for the
strange incident.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;It
came with the rain and about a kilo of these live fish is in the
aquarium now,” Gobenciong said. Surprised residents went out of
their houses despite the heavy rain to collect the fish that landed
on rooftops and on the streets.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.97in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iY8nJh3Mwj0/TccFpEVVnzI/AAAAAAAAADg/oZ98cgu7rIU/s1600/images.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iY8nJh3Mwj0/TccFpEVVnzI/AAAAAAAAADg/oZ98cgu7rIU/s320/images.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Artists depiction of the fishmonger's handiwork&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Falls
of fish are probably among the better known kinds of falls which Fort
collected in his works. As was the case even in Forts day, there
exists a pet theory offering a solution to this seemingly bizarre
phenomenon. In this most recent example of Fish falls, the answer
came back with a vengeance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Lt.
Col. Niel Patricio, commanding officer of the Army’s 26th Infantry
Battalion whose unit has operational jurisdiction over Loreto town,
said one his men witnessed the incident.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Patricio
said the phenomenon might have been triggered by a twister that
sucked out a school of mudfish fingerlings from the Agusan Marsh,
which is a breeding ground for mudfish.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;“&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;That’s
the most logical explanation for now,” he said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 1in; margin-right: 0.94in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Personally,
I have always liked Fort's explanation for this phenomenon. On
page 90 in his&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Book-Damned-Collected-Works-Charles/dp/1585426415/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1327549545&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Book of The Damned&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, Fort
states:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.98in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
think that things raised from this earth's surface to that region
have been held there until shaken down by storms – The
Super-Sargasso Sea.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.98in; margin-right: 0.92in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Of
course in typical Fort fashion, he came later to offer an alternative
explanation for Fish Falls that relied on a more earth bound
explanation. In his third book&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Lo!&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;Fort explains to
his readers how a fish fall occurred in England around May in the
year 1881.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;a
fishmonger, with a procession of carts, loaded with several kinds of
crabs and periwinkles, and with a dozen energetic assistants,
appeared at a time when nobody on a busy road was looking.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
fishmonger and his assistants grabbed sacks of periwinkles, and ran
in a frenzy, slinging the things into fields on both sides of the
road. They raced to gardens, and some assistants, standing on the
shoulders of other assistants, had sacks lifted to them, and dumped
sacks over the high walls.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Meanwhile
other assistants, in a dozen carts, were furiously shoveling out
periwinkles, about a mile along the road. Also, meanwhile, several
boys were busily mixing in crabs. They were not advertising anything.
Above all there was secrecy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.93in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
cost must have been hundreds of dollars. They appeared without having
been seen on the way, and they melted away equally mysteriously.
There were houses all around, but nobody saw them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Would
I be so kind as to tell what, in the name of some slight
approximation to sanity, I mean by telling such a story?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;But
it is not my story. The details are mine, but I have put them in,
strictly in accordance with the circumstances. There was, upon May
28, 1881, an occurrence near Worcester, and the conventional
explanation was that a fishmonger did it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;

&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.99in; margin-right: 0.95in;"&gt;

&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Inasmuch
as he did it unobserved, if he did it, and inasmuch as he did it with
tons upon acres, if he did it, he did it as I have described, if he
did it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I
for one prefer to believe that, much like his forebear back in the
1800's, a fishmonger struck the poor people of Agusan del Sur. Be
sure to follow this &lt;a href="http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=767997"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; to read more of the story. Until next time;
be sure to look up in the skies. Especially if you enjoy seafood!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/fh-oLVA60fw" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/01/fishmonger-strikes-again.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iY8nJh3Mwj0/TccFpEVVnzI/AAAAAAAAADg/oZ98cgu7rIU/s72-c/images.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-1728485030046197784</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-01-24T20:57:57.025-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ufology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Science</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ETH</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Adamski</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Contactee</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><title>Adamski vindicated? Not quite.</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm
starting to suspect that I have an unhealthy obsession with Above Top
Secret and it's variable crazy threads. I was once again going
through the site when a thread title grabbed my attention. Entitled
“&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread799708/pg1"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Life
Spotted on Venus - Russian Scientist&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;”,
my mind&amp;nbsp;began&amp;nbsp;to entertain all manner of ideas. Could some
Scientist have finally discovered Orthon's hideout? Unfortunately, as
is usual in this field, the truth is not as exciting as I had
originally hoped.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;According
to the original&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://en.ria.ru/science/20120120/170865269.html"&gt;article&lt;/a&gt;,
which the thread creator states is “all over Russian language
websites”,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;An
article published in the Solar System Research magazine reported
Several objects resembling living beings were detected on photos made
by a Russian landing probe in 1982 during a Venus mission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Leonid
Ksanfomaliti of the Space Research Institute of Russia’s Academy of
Sciences published research that analyzed the photos from the Venus
mission made by a Soviet landing probe, Venus-13, in 1982.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;The
news article's headline was, not entirely unlike my post's title, a
bit sensationalist. In fact, to his credit,&amp;nbsp;Ksanfomaliti admits
that the findings weren't exactly indicative of life. Instead he was
quoted in the article as saying:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;The
photos feature several objects, which Ksanfomaliti said, resembled “a
disk,” “a black flap” and “a scorpion.” All of them
“emerge, fluctuate and disappear,” the scientist said, referring
to their changing location on different photos and traces on the
ground.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ksanfomaliti
went on further to state:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;"What
if we forget about the current theories about the nonexistence of
life on Venus, let’s boldly suggest that the objects’
morphological features would allow us to say that they are living,”
Solar System Research quoted Ksanfomaliti as saying.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Contrary
to what the article's title would seem to indicate, at the end of the
day this Russian Scientist is simply asking that we be open-minded
enough to allow that these objects may actually be living. And here I
was hoping for some candid,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;National
Enquirer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;-style
paparazzi photos of&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Adamski"&gt;Orthon&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;or
the other Venusian's that “Professor” Adamski was allegedly in
contact with.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.rian.ru/images/17086/55/170865539.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="226" name="graphics1" src="http://en.rian.ru/images/17086/55/170865539.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"&gt;Orthon...? Is that you?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;You
can read more of the original article&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://en.ria.ru/science/20120120/170865269.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.
Not sure what to make of this story, I for one don't mind some out of
the box thinking. But at the same time, the one photo that the story
has in it doesn't instill any confidence in me that what we are
looking at is 'biological'. But, as always, I ask that you judge for
yourselves and let me know what you think!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/T9x5N9kSi5Y" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/01/adamski-vindicated-not-quite.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-8496827475688830471</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-05-30T15:17:53.633-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Audio</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ufology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Above Top Secret</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ETH</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alien Abduction</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><title>Herbert Schirmer - An Abductee in his own words</title><description>&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;I'm not a huge fan of the vast majority of the current abductee literature mostly, I think, because it tends to be a bit repetitive and, if I'm being completely honest, dull. It quickly becomes a case of “If you've heard one, you've heard them all.” One can only have so many tales of 'anal-probes' or 'hybrid children' before you should be ready to scream and be done with the whole thing. However in looking back over the past literature available on the subject one case has always particularly stood out to me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;And recently I was pleased to come across some audio of the abductee involved who spoke at a UFO conference on his experience.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;At 2 AM on a December night in 1967, Patrolman Herbert Schirmer was making his normal rounds on Highway 6 in Ashland, Nebraska, when he saw lights that he at first took to be an oncoming vehicle but soon became obvious that something else was going on that night. At the junction of Highway 6 and 63, Schirmer came upon what he would later describe as UFO that had the appearance of aluminum and was hovering about 10 feet above the ground. The red lights that had earlier attracted Schirmer's attention were flashing from out of “portholes” around the object. After watching the object for only a few moments, it started to make what was described as a siren sound, and as something like flames shot out from underneath, it began to zoom off into the night sky.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/pictures/SchirmerAlien.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="254" src="http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/pictures/SchirmerAlien.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Schirmer's Alien&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Schirmer got out of his patrol car with flashlight in hand and began to look around the area where the craft had been hovering. After not finding anything that stood out, Schirmer went back to the police station and recorded the following entry into his log book “Saw a flying saucer at the junction of highways 6 and 63. Believe it or not!”. Seeing that it was 3 O' Clock, Schirmer figured that he was missing about 30 minutes of time that he could not account for. As it happened, the Condon Committee was in full swing as this incident occurred, and as a part of their investigation into the UFO phenomena, Schirmer was brought to Boulder, Colorado where he was eventually hypnotically regressed by psychologist Dr. Leo Sprinkle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;During the regression it came out that Schirmer had actually been taken aboard the craft by 4 ½ foot tall beings that had a Winged Serpent insignia upon their chest. Referring to Schirmer as “the watchman”, they guided him around their craft showing him many things. They revealed that a part of their mission on Earth was to take Electricity. Additionally they were involved in a breeding program of some form and that in order to keep their true agenda from being discovered they appeared to people completely at random. Below is a YouTube link to the lecture that Schirmer gave on the events of the night.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object class="BLOGGER-youtube-video" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" data-thumbnail-src="http://0.gvt0.com/vi/KuuYvQcPDaQ/0.jpg" height="266" width="320"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KuuYvQcPDaQ&amp;fs=1&amp;source=uds" /&gt; &lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /&gt; &lt;embed width="400" height="300"  src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KuuYvQcPDaQ&amp;fs=1&amp;source=uds" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;If you want to learn more, or if you prefer reading the story as opposed to listening to the YouTube link provided, you can follow these links if you wish to know more. But I highly recommend listening to Schirmer tell you what happened in his own words. I would like to leave you with the final words given to Schirmer. The final message that was offered from the beings to Schirmer has long been one of my favorite ET messages. They told him “We want you to believe in us, but not too much.” Somewhere in there may lie a clue as to what is actually going on behind this phenomena.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread784794/pg1"&gt;ATS Thread on the Topic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case659.htm"&gt;UFO Evidence&lt;/a&gt; Report&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: medium;"&gt;Link to the &lt;a href="http://www.noufors.com/audio/Schirmer%20Layer-3.mp3"&gt;MP3&lt;/a&gt; if you prefer to download the audio.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/IOVK1A_W6BE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/01/herbet-schirmer-abductee-in-his-own.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-1281646645549635270</guid><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2012-08-06T22:58:20.830-04:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Other opinions</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ufology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ghost Hunting</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Who Forted?</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Mac Tonnies</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bitching</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Cryptozoology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bigfoot</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Ashley's Take</category><title>Looking in from the outside</title><description>The following post is courtesy of &lt;a href="https://plus.google.com/113720856062926769394"&gt;Ashley Ruff&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;During
the three and a half years that I have been dating Tony I have had
the joy of watching him explore the world of forteana, hopping around
from theory to theory. While observing Tony research, I have learned
that the majority of people involved in this field are extremely
immature. Are they childish for believing that the moon may be a
hollow satellite? No. Are they silly for thinking that a giant
dinosaur might live in Loch Ness? Not at all. The majority of the
people involved in this field show a lack of maturity by not working
together AND for not picking up where the last generation of
researchers left off by exploring new theories or evolving those
theories further.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; I
don't know how many times Tony has come to me and showed me some
website where one guy shared a new/evolved theory about God knows
what and a million people tore that guy's theory apart, instead of
bothering to entertain it or waisting time pointing out something
silly like grammatical flaws-looking past the theory and dissecting
the man. Tony has told me about countless arguments where people
waist valuable time fighting over pointless details instead of using
that time to work together. AND don't &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;even&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
get me started on the politics involved. Debating theories is one
thing, but I couldn't believe how these grown men and women would
argue a theory by typing stupid insults (some veiled and some not).
I'll never forget when one of Tony's friends and mentors was verbally
attacked via the listeners' comment section on a website due to his
“rebellious” opinions.  It wouldn't be so bad if these people
were debating theories like adults, but they act like children with
name-calling and completely unrelated insults. These people are too
busy promoting their pet theories and defending them like their
religion than to come together. Aren't they all suppose to be working
towards the same goal? Uncovering answers or something? &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; I've
learned that they choose not to work together: finding it more
effective to bring each other down, laugh at the theories of others,
and generally act like a group of preschoolers . Fine. It's easier
for the alien guys to stay in their own group and for the
cryptozoology guys to stay in their corner and then the paranormal
ghost guys are off in some abandoned building looking for a ghost or
something. Maybe all of these weird events have connections (or maybe
they don't), but since these groups choose to do their own thing we
probably won't know. &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; They
can choose not to work together, fine, but for God's sake get some
new material. It's sad that these people spend their lives
researching theories only to come to the same conclusions that the
generations before them came to. Pick up where they left off! Use
their theories as a launching point! Obviously they didn't find the
answers, right? So use what they know and keep going. Very few people
that Tony has told me about (or that I have heard) have been able to
move on. I don't know much about this stuff but I've learned that &lt;a href="http://www.mactonnies.com/bio.html"&gt;MacTonnies&lt;/a&gt;, for example, was able to move past the standard ETH (alien
crap) and go on to the Cryptoterrestrial Theory. Even Tony has been
able to move past the cafeteria tray of forteana and begin attempting
to find the connections. &lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; It's
not that I'm trying to offend anyone, but maybe they need a little
offending. I thought it was typical that people working towards a
common goal would work together. I'm not even saying that people
shouldn't disagree, but don't put a theory on a pedestal. It's a
THEORY for a reason. And maybe they could argue their points of view
like adults, and really would it hurt to entertain a new theory? As
far as we know none of the other theories have proven to be true so
why hold fast to any? &lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; I'm
a senior in college, one of those artsy-fartsy kids that always has
paint on their jeans. Before I met Tony I had little interest (and
still have little interest) in this paranormal stuff. I enjoy a &lt;a href="http://www.whofortedblog.com/"&gt;WhoForted?&lt;/a&gt; article now and then, I've been known to listen to &lt;a href="http://mysteriousuniverse.org/"&gt;MysteriousUniverse&lt;/a&gt;, go on a supposedly haunted road, etc., but I think it's sad
that it takes an outsider, someone with no real stock in this field,
to point out these two, seemingly obvious, flaws.  And yet so few
people are rocking the boat by stepping outside of their comfort
zones, including their pet theories,  by collaborating. Perhaps if
(and when) a Bigfoot guy could sit down with a UFO guy and compare
notes, something &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;NEW&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;
could happen for a change. But, hey, I'm just an outsider. - Ashley R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/blogspot/oyAC/~4/Z0_rrUi0Veg" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://forteania.blogspot.com/2012/01/looking-in-from-outside.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Tony Morrill)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8325707549801282615.post-106952672428999619</guid><pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-12-22T21:11:57.111-05:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Technology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fortean</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Science</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Fragile Earth</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Alternative Theories</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Classic UFO</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">NASA</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Media</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Photos</category><title>Space Ball .... from space!?</title><description>&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It
would appear that the internet is all a flutter tonight about the
recent discovery of a "space ball" found in &lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;Namibia&lt;/span&gt;.
According to &lt;a href="http://news.discovery.com/"&gt;Discovery News&lt;/a&gt;, the object was first discovered in late
November. From the article:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eyewitnesses
reported hearing a series of explosions a few days before the
extraterrestrial find. The "space ball" was consequently
recovered near a village in the north of the African nation, 480
miles from the capital Windhoek.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The
mystery sphere has a diameter of 35 centimeters (14 inches), a rough
surface and appears to consist of "two halves welded together,"
police forensics director Paul Ludik &lt;a href="http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-space-ball-namibia.html"&gt;told
the AFP news agency&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;The
    "Space Ball" in question (Image Courtesy of &lt;a href="http://news.discovery.com/space/mystery-space-ball-crashes-in-nambia-111222.html"&gt;Discovery
    News&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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at the &lt;a href="http://news.discovery.com/space/mystery-space-ball-crashes-in-nambia-111222.html"&gt;site&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;I
hate to rain on anyone's parade, but before people start shouting
"Alien artifact" according to the above news article,
"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;Ludik
also described the object as being made of a "metal alloy known
to man,". The article then goes a bit further to really burst
everyone's bubbles. According to the author of the article, Ian
O'Neill, the object is only a COPV. A&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nasa.gov/centers/wstf/laboratories/composite/index.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;CompositeOverwrapped
Pressure Vessel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;"
is apparently just some space junk. In order to back this up, the
author puts photos up that are of confirmed COPVs. It's not terribly
hard to see how similar the "Space Ball" and one of the
COPVs really are.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;COPV,
    it's not hard to draw a comparison (Image Courtesy of &lt;a href="http://www.nasa.gov/centers/wstf/laboratories/composite/index.html"&gt;NASA&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;Still,
when I first read about this object a small part of me temporarily
flashed back to something I had read in Gray Barker's&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Silver-Bridge-Classic-Mothman-Tale/dp/1439204276/ref=tmm_pap_title_0"&gt;The Silver Bridge&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;In chapter 9, entitled The Golden Ball, Barker
relates a tale of another object that purportedly fell to Earth from
the Heavens. On the same night that Woody Derenberger was meeting
with the "alien" Indrid Cold, a town about 30 miles south
of Parkersburg, West Virgina, also had UFO sightings. One of the
apparent witnesses to this display, a Mr. John White, discovered an
object on his lawn. Well to be more specific, his children actually
discovered the object.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;Described
as about 12 inches in circumference, the item seemed to be made
completely of gold and was quite heavy.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;Although
the descriptions of the objects differ, my mind immediately flashed
to this item. Who knows, maybe Indrid Cold's compatriots got tired of
hanging out in West Virginia and decided to check out Namibia?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial;"&gt;Be
sure to follow the news link and decide for yourself what the
provenance of the Space Ball really is!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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