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term="AI"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Big Markets"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Valuing Young companies"/><title type='text'>AI&#39;s Bar Mitzvah Moment: From Hype &amp; Hope to Business Questions!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Foreword: I wrote and posted this piece on August 20, 2026, with the promise that I would listen to feedback and try to respond and incorporate ideas and suggestions. To keep this promise, I will edit this piece over time and reflect the changes I make.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Original post: August 20, 2026&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;First update: August 21, 2026 - Updated AI TAM table to make explicit implications of AI market size for other businesses, employees and the economy&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Second update: August 21, 2026 - Updated to incorporate impact of new businesses that may be born out of AI&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In a world where AI enters almost every conversation, it takes effort to remember that its breakout moment was less than four years ago, when, on November 30, 2022, ChatGPT was &lt;a href=&quot;https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/&quot;&gt;unveiled to the public.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;I know! I know! Artificial intelligence has been around a lot longer, with a history tracing back to the birth of the computer age. I am old enough to remember IBM&#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ibm.com/history/deep-blue&quot;&gt;Deep Blue,&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;a machine powerful enough to evaluate two hundred million chess positions per second, and beat the greatest chess players of its time. On the cultural front, we have seen variants of stories, where machines break free from human control and take over the world, in novels and movies, with Hal (the computer) in &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062622/&quot;&gt;2001: A Space Odyssey&lt;/a&gt; retorting &quot;I&#39;m afraid I can&#39;t do that&quot; to Dave, his human controller, remaining one of my favorite movie lines of all time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Notwithstanding its longer history, the effect on AI has been explosive in the last four years, manifesting in multiple developments. The most successful company during this period, in terms of increasing market capitalization, has been Nvidia, the chip maker for the AI revolution. After spending a decade talking about FANGAM, the big tech companies that had become part of our daily lives while carrying equity markets forward over the last decade, it was the Mag Seven that became the stand-in for market dominance, with Tesla and Nvidia replacing Netflix in the mix. The Mag Seven, almost all of which have a stake in AI, have accounted for 45% of the increase in market cap across all US stocks between 2022 and 2025, and have an aggregate market cap on August 16, 2026, of $23.7 trillion. It is not just markets that are besotted with AI, since the massive investments in AI architecture, from data centers to large language models (LLMs) have carried the US economy; it is estimated that these investments &lt;a href=&quot;https://am.jpmorgan.com/us/en/asset-management/adv/insights/market-insights/market-updates/on-the-minds-of-investors/is-ai-already-driving-us-growth/&quot;&gt;accounted for about 1%&lt;/a&gt; of the 2.5% in real GDP growth in 2024 and 2025. Almost every conversation of businesses now has an AI component, which if not restrained, can hijack the discussion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; AI&#39;s effects were not restricted to business and markets, as people were exposed to its reach in their personal and work lives, with reactions ranging from awe, at its power to do tasks that used to require skilled human labor, not just effectively, but in a fraction of the time, to dread, at the possibility of being made obsolete by an AI agent. As the arc of the AI story has unfolded over the last four years, it seems to me that is has also transitioned in the public consciousness from a mostly positive phenomenon early on to acquiring a negative tinge, perhaps because of concerns that the genie is out of the bottle, and is not benign, and partly because some of its leading spokespeople are so unlikeable. Not surprisingly, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2026/05/20/nx-s1-5822419/ai-colleges-commencement-booing&quot;&gt;speakers at graduation ceremonies in US colleges in 2026, were booed by students&lt;/a&gt;, when their speeches centered around AI.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The AI Debate: Off the tracks?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As the AI story has unfolded, there have been reams written about it, for and against, and almost as much said about it on television and podcasts. In spite of being so much in the news, the debate about AI, in my view, has gone off the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;track with advocates and skeptics often talking past each other, with advocates focusing on its &quot;huge&quot; potential market, and skeptics zeroing in on massive upfront investments as &quot;too large&quot;, with each side claiming the high ground and labeling the other side as cultists (AI advocates) or Luddites (AI skeptics). There is a great deal of cherry picking of the data on both sides, with the optimists focusing on usage statistics (level and growth) and the pessimists on capital spending and current profitability (or lack of it).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This post is not about proving one side right and the other wrong, but about closing the loop and making it a discussion of AI as a business, recognizing that it is ground breaking, while also acknowledging that it has to be judged like every other business in history, not on potential usage, but on the prosaic details of converting potential to products and revenues, being able to deliver these products at a cost that generates profits and building moats to keep new entrants and competitors out. In short, the AI optimists may be right about AI usage exploding in the future, but big markets don&#39;t always become big businesses, and the skeptics have to concede that spending a lot on capital expenditures raises the ante for businesses, but don&#39;t necessarily doom them to value destruction.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I will be writing this as an AI novice, a very light user of ChatGPT (I still have only the free version) and acquainted with Claude only in passing (though my content has found its way into some of its bots). If you are an AI expert and feel that I am missing or wrong about a technical component, forgive my ignorance, and feel free to educate me, and if you work at an AI business and feel that I am in error on a business detail, the same offer stands. To be honest, I am writing this post for an audience of one (me), with the purpose of clarifying for myself how to make sense of this space, and if it does help you make sense of this disruption, it is a side benefit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Cycle of Revolutionary Change&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Through human existence, revolutionary change has been a constant, and even when that change has been an advance for humanity, it has always come with pain for those that the change renders obsolete and unanticipated side costs. At the risk of overreach, I will argue that every major disruptive change has gone through four phases: a period of &lt;i&gt;hope and hype&lt;/i&gt;, where the change is viewed as big, but it is unclear how and in what form it will be delivered,&amp;nbsp; a period of &lt;i&gt;build-up&lt;/i&gt;, where a subset of people (with more belief in the change and more willingness to take risks) start investing and&amp;nbsp; building products to make the change happen, a&amp;nbsp; period of &lt;i&gt;business building&lt;/i&gt;, where the change is monetized and businesses form, and a &lt;i&gt;recalibration&lt;/i&gt;, where the change works its way through the economy and society, in both good ways (increased productivity and welfare, new businesses) and bad ways (displacement and damage).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Hope and Hype&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;In this phase, the true believers and visionaries that see change coming start the ball rolling, but to succeed, they need to sell it to the broader public. Since the story of change, at least at this stage, has nothing tangible at its core (no products or services, let along revenues or profits), it is inevitable that there will be false starts mixed in, as well a dose of scams pushed by charlatans and pretenders. It is also par for the course that there will be many who will dismiss change talk as fairy tales, without even listening to the arguments, either out of cynicism or because they do not understand what is being sold. For change to take root, the visionaries selling the story need to be persuasive enough to get people to buy into their vision, both to get foot soldiers who will work to make change happen and investors to supply them with capital.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. The Investing Build-up&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Once the belief that change is possible gets a foothold, there will be a subset of players, with start-ups or in existing businesses, that will invest and build products and services that they believe will be sought after, if change comes. As pioneers in this space, with trial and error and experimentation characterizing these attempts, but even failures will lead to learning, albeit with costs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If the change is perceived as revolutionary, with a big market emerging, this is the phase where the &lt;i&gt;big market delusion&lt;/i&gt;, a term I coined over a decade ago, is likely to emerge. That delusion has its roots in &lt;u&gt;selection bias&lt;/u&gt;, where the people building products for the change to come tend not only to be true believers but also over confident, resulting in a collective over reach by companies and investors pricing these companies, and a correction.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieF9ccr4palemNCYpPgnsfGVx5ac51S7c6CtbK3EvIgvQleNoLbELJ9sSoo5qWy8DG_DGj9hPOyJp2FV9emjGilWsDYxS4oxHVroIFMWZy1-ka1sbMW2jARxYOS5Phj5ADzYHZ0DjBTIlze-drCXEEe40iYQc1da-xUwtCJ3jUGkEKwEwRTBQ2mTOLYgw/s1242/BigMarketDelusion.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1242&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1040&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieF9ccr4palemNCYpPgnsfGVx5ac51S7c6CtbK3EvIgvQleNoLbELJ9sSoo5qWy8DG_DGj9hPOyJp2FV9emjGilWsDYxS4oxHVroIFMWZy1-ka1sbMW2jARxYOS5Phj5ADzYHZ0DjBTIlze-drCXEEe40iYQc1da-xUwtCJ3jUGkEKwEwRTBQ2mTOLYgw/w335-h400/BigMarketDelusion.jpg&quot; width=&quot;335&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Thus, &lt;i&gt;bubbles are a feature, not a bug, when revolutionary change is a possibility.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;Finally, if business and investing is a combination of (business) stories with numbers, at this stage of the cycle, where there is little material that has already been accomplished, &lt;i&gt;it is the story that drives growth and investment.&lt;/i&gt; Investors with actuarial or accounting mindsets will undoubtedly find these narratives unpersuasive and quickly consign these companies to the overvalued heap. While that impulse is entirely understandable, it is worth remembering that there will be other investors, who are willing to bet on optionality, where they invest in this space, hoping that the entities that they invest in will be the big winners (though they have not won anything yet) in a big market (which does not exist right now).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;3. Business Building&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Not all change is revolutionary, not all revolutionary change translates into big markets, and not all big markets create valuable businesses, and it is in the phase of business building that the truth starts to emerge. Since this is very much a test of businesses growing up, it represents a &lt;i&gt;bar mitzvah&lt;/i&gt; moment for these businesses, in the sense that investors are no longer willing to just price on promise, and start demanding tangible evidence of progress. It is during the business building phase that you start to create the structure of converting products into businesses, with production processes, supply chains, marketing and distribution all taking form. In the process of building business, you will confront the realities that will determine whether you are a mass market or niche company, including unit economics and economies of scale.&amp;nbsp; In the process, they will also discover a harsh truth, which is that many creative and talented product-builders lacking business-building capabilities, and either have to partner with someone who does, sell their products to established companies that already have systems in place (expect acquisitions, partnerships) or get pushed out of their own firms by their capital providers (venture capitalists).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;4. Recalibration&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As businesses start to succeed, the laws of economics, immutable and powerful, kick in. You should expect to see turnover and consolidation, as new entrants and existing players jockey for position, and business economics determine industry structure from splintered to consolidated to winner-take-all all possibilities. At the same time, the dark side also plays out as those (businesses and individuals) rendered obsolete by the change come under pressure, with some shrinking, some disappearing and some in denial.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It is worth recognizing that there is no steady state, because as businesses recalibrate to the innovation, they now represent the status quo and become targets for the next revolutionary change, Schumpeter&#39;s creative destruction in motion. The picture below summarizes the cycle, mapping out the pathway from hype and hope to investing to harvest to building businesses to recalibration:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVT5kmCin5vpN40xGCzIFE273py1bRtnQxxtMD425PKCYhd5pUjMqoVtYpMLdGyvZmqRRcOQDxHC7_atwVOwVrq8MrvtfKliUchJlG1cGWvkpc4JUhCAqphmU5GZdK_s-SdUREvNBknMiwqrihojpvw8fyOXy5kSzDBc5LsZDecLpKzfq2AylE3Gem5_A/s1540/RevChgCycle.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1200&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1540&quot; height=&quot;311&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVT5kmCin5vpN40xGCzIFE273py1bRtnQxxtMD425PKCYhd5pUjMqoVtYpMLdGyvZmqRRcOQDxHC7_atwVOwVrq8MrvtfKliUchJlG1cGWvkpc4JUhCAqphmU5GZdK_s-SdUREvNBknMiwqrihojpvw8fyOXy5kSzDBc5LsZDecLpKzfq2AylE3Gem5_A/w400-h311/RevChgCycle.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Where does AI fall in this cycle? ChatGPT, as I noted at the start of this post, may have been low-tech AI, but it got the hype cycle rolling, and social media amplified and accelerated that rollout, and its broad reach meant that almost everyone has seen it at work. The hope that AI&#39;s popularity and reach would create a big market built up in parallel, with capital flowing into firms in its sphere (as well as wannabes that latched on to it, as a buzzword), pushing the market capitalizations of the companies building AI&#39;s architecture (computer chips, LLMs, power and water companies, cloud) into the trillions of dollars, funded with equity and debt. It was not just financial market participants that saw its allure, as hyper scalers and new entrants invested hundreds of billions into AI cap ex, partly because they believed in its promise, but partly out of a fear of missing out. The graph below looks at cap ex in just six of the largest players in the space, four of them in the Mag Seven (Alphabet, Amazon, Met and Microsoft) and two outside (Oracle and Coreweave):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhD_lDnhARVSGcN0m_1CEDfni5MtXWJqFVePraE6EZacnrNjWB7alINn5QU3_yetoizCUZARbfkZNUIRKVcMCg5KSuHSnKGA3s0m60lsmtVfBEPv-Tv7EC0rr4Qt3Sb3mZP39fX7RFnduqOF4NCdktYlmu9hwL-7-YWMloEPa7YR2zuUnIj66dMDd3R5bo/s1204/AICapExHyperscalers.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;880&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1204&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhD_lDnhARVSGcN0m_1CEDfni5MtXWJqFVePraE6EZacnrNjWB7alINn5QU3_yetoizCUZARbfkZNUIRKVcMCg5KSuHSnKGA3s0m60lsmtVfBEPv-Tv7EC0rr4Qt3Sb3mZP39fX7RFnduqOF4NCdktYlmu9hwL-7-YWMloEPa7YR2zuUnIj66dMDd3R5bo/w400-h293/AICapExHyperscalers.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Source: Cap IQ&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Cumulatively, &lt;i&gt;the total investment from just these companies amount to $1.7 trillion,&lt;/i&gt; over the last few years, and their guidance suggests that they are not done, with trillions of dollars in AI cap ex commitments in the next three to four years. You can see why I use the analogy of a factory, and argue that AI has built the most expensive factory in history, and done so in hyper speed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;To what end? It is only in the last year or so that you are seeing the beginnings of business building, where companies are generating revenues from selling products made by the AI factory, with Anthropic and OpenAI as the most prominent examples. Those revenues are small for the moment, relative to capital invested, and the profitability is still a reach, but there is a host of experimentation going on on model type (open versus closed), business models (subscription versus usage) and pricing. The seeds of disruption have been sown, and there are signs that AI&#39;s rise will make a significant dent in the profitability of some businesses, with technology companies in the software and intermediary segments being the first casualties.  The AI story is clearly further advanced than it was a year ago, but it is still early, and there will be changes and challenges that face both the players in the space and the investors in these players, making this AI&#39;s bar mitzvah moment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Business Framework for AI&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;If you are an onlooker or undecided on the AI question, I don&#39;t blame you, if you find yourself whipsawed by what seem like persuasive arguments on both sides and waylaid by distractions aplenty. That is because there are so many strands to this story that taking any strand in isolation can lead you to a conclusion about AI as a business that is hopelessly of course. The best way to bring all these strands together is by going back to basics, and establishing the drivers of the value of any business (not just AI):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifTp0yUVlPM8GzJwKsroRmQzbpPc-p6d4VRU6KkTI8Romeh9x6qzap9EVQHDilathtEPxaw8vvypC60vcuGXEQt4mmcwsbMLPvAdbumZ-JfUxJ_d8-W_COxPZLSl0nZB3Owg_45CsnLLRNEbQgRm-DtuJRe5BhTnFsaktVv-Sux4vA0H2FaNgRJRL0Au0/s1826/BusinessStoryDimensions.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1076&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1826&quot; height=&quot;236&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifTp0yUVlPM8GzJwKsroRmQzbpPc-p6d4VRU6KkTI8Romeh9x6qzap9EVQHDilathtEPxaw8vvypC60vcuGXEQt4mmcwsbMLPvAdbumZ-JfUxJ_d8-W_COxPZLSl0nZB3Owg_45CsnLLRNEbQgRm-DtuJRe5BhTnFsaktVv-Sux4vA0H2FaNgRJRL0Au0/w400-h236/BusinessStoryDimensions.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In this structure, there are three broad drivers that will determine how AI as a business will unfold. The first is with an assessment of the size of the total market for AI products and services, the second is the &lt;i&gt;industry economics&lt;/i&gt; in that market, which, in turn, will determine how many companies will cater to this market and the profitability of these companies, and the third will be an assessment, or at least a preliminary judgment, on what the &lt;i&gt;moats or competitive advantages &lt;/i&gt;will be in this business.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Market Size&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;It is true that the value of a business is tied to how big a market there is for its products and services, but it is also true that this metric, converted into an acronym (TAM) has become a gaming tool in the hands of founders, venture capitalists and bankers. In my SpaceX valuation, where xAI is the primary AI business, I noted that bankers estimated a total addressable market (TAM) of $22 trillion for xAI, which I felt was more hallucination than estimate. That said, any discussion of AI as a business has to start with the total market question, and it is worth starting that discussion with an examination of where we are right now in terms of revenues from AI products and services.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As we head towards the end of the third quarter of 2026, with chatter about Anthropic and OpenAI getting louder, both companies are racing to set up their stories by reporting their updated annualized revenue run rates (ARR), an admittedly self-serving metric (for growth businesses) estimated by taking the most recent period (week, month etc.) and extrapolating to a year. On August 17, Anthropic that its ARR at the end of July 2026 was $65 billion. OpenAI&#39;s estimate of its ARR at the end of July was about $40 billion. While both numbers represented quantum leaps from their values just a year ago, adding these estimates&amp;nbsp;to the revenues that SpaceX (from xAI), Microsoft (from its AI offerings) and other players, even with the most generous estimates, generate from selling AI products and services yields a total revenues that is modest:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWRT5Yu7ubmi-Lc43gM-2e9UGTqSAdv1GliAYBn4bqZ7NKzq9_-53y1Wna1UiE5X_dbruja9nC3DzhOQ1Ut61_dWQoxN_3J7CWIQPBmFEje2dhNiDkAZgQ-7bp4ukkB8apkmjlOh085xazthZUBkWkSnNAo8c59C9iP8q4i3HcxR_nfHICOc2-LCIgc-s/s2594/CurrentAImarketSize.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1206&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2594&quot; height=&quot;186&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWRT5Yu7ubmi-Lc43gM-2e9UGTqSAdv1GliAYBn4bqZ7NKzq9_-53y1Wna1UiE5X_dbruja9nC3DzhOQ1Ut61_dWQoxN_3J7CWIQPBmFEje2dhNiDkAZgQ-7bp4ukkB8apkmjlOh085xazthZUBkWkSnNAo8c59C9iP8q4i3HcxR_nfHICOc2-LCIgc-s/w400-h186/CurrentAImarketSize.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you look at these numbers, there are a few truths that are undeniable. The first is that the&lt;i&gt; AI product and service&amp;nbsp;market is not only fast growing&lt;/i&gt;, as evidenced by the ARR for the lead LLMs, but &lt;i&gt;unpredictable&lt;/i&gt;, with Anthropic&#39;s most updated ARR coming in $10-$15 billion below estimates. The second is that even with the most upbeat and optimistic estimates of revenues for AI products and services, &lt;i&gt;the current revenue number caps out at about $250 billion&lt;/i&gt;, and that sounds like a big number, until you scale it to the trillions invested in the space. Put simply, the big winners in terms of revenues and operating profits, at least so far in this AI cycle, have been the companies that supply the infrastructure components, with chips (Nvidia) electrical equipment providers and power utilities all sharing in the spoils.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;That, of course, is just the existing market and with immense growth built into it, the question becomes about the end game, and that end market size, at least at the moment, seems to be anyone&#39;s guess. While the xAI bankers will undoubtedly use this uncertainty as a shield to not have to justify their estimate, there are ways we can start framing our choices, beginning with aggregate measures of what businesses spend as operating expenses, since AI&#39;s big sales pitch is that it will lower that spending. In 2025, the aggregate operating expenses at publicly traded companies was about $65 trillion, broken down by sector and geography below:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhMnRH_ohRNoUonOkXMtrN-5-zLyjoK9CDUTfOia-rQDjlUn3XRVd6dyS-Rd8C3w6EsAq_LZ_zTHEpTMx2KftXk3nXtDszHuTwEWzVV2btGpbNFgyP_rjpd-ndqWisa-G_QXW_wvoV-sFrMs7o0e0SEmUczpuD67N5prKJ7TYsdgKTD7p6x_seHuC3o1U/s2494/Oper%20Exp%202025%20Breakdown.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;522&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2494&quot; height=&quot;84&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhMnRH_ohRNoUonOkXMtrN-5-zLyjoK9CDUTfOia-rQDjlUn3XRVd6dyS-Rd8C3w6EsAq_LZ_zTHEpTMx2KftXk3nXtDszHuTwEWzVV2btGpbNFgyP_rjpd-ndqWisa-G_QXW_wvoV-sFrMs7o0e0SEmUczpuD67N5prKJ7TYsdgKTD7p6x_seHuC3o1U/w400-h84/Oper%20Exp%202025%20Breakdown.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: S&amp;amp;P Cap IQ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;These expenses include the costs of raw material and inputs that are immune from AI&#39;s efficiency push, since AI cannot replace the rubber you need to make tires, the wheat you need to process to get cereal and the chemicals that go into fertilizer. Consequently, it is the portion of these expenses that took the form of employee compensation, in all of its forms (wages, salaries, bonuses, stock-based compensation) that AI is targeting. While some companies break this portion of expense out explicitly in their financial statements, others do not, but there is macro data on this metric, albeit splintered geographically. Drawing on Federal Reserve data of compensation for all US employees, I get the following numbers:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjra7SgfwUlD80gK_mFaTbtNzuRwbit1WZXx3qagpLgl1I73MqyeguoONfl3LUFvyEFkszsIERbYJAL4bsDuEsmN6yQQsyPFO49wXVH4HHu3PNdss5GA-ShJKzZa9a-dISUgkGVKWiWUm9WNO61PR_Hi-r-eYYXivxPwBWU6oMwp1j-_4ckEkuoqnQRK1g/s1302/USWagesChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;964&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1302&quot; height=&quot;296&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjra7SgfwUlD80gK_mFaTbtNzuRwbit1WZXx3qagpLgl1I73MqyeguoONfl3LUFvyEFkszsIERbYJAL4bsDuEsmN6yQQsyPFO49wXVH4HHu3PNdss5GA-ShJKzZa9a-dISUgkGVKWiWUm9WNO61PR_Hi-r-eYYXivxPwBWU6oMwp1j-_4ckEkuoqnQRK1g/w400-h296/USWagesChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: Federal Reserve&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I would argue that AI&#39;s total addressable market, in the US, cannot be greater than $12.96 trillion, the total employee compensation in 2025, or an inflation-adjusted variant, if it is in the future, it is roughly twice that amount, if you target global spending on employees. While that number is large enough to set AI optimists&#39; hearts aflutter, a world where every employee is replaced by an AI agent would not just be dystopian, but also an economic basket case. In fact, AI&#39;s target market will be smaller, depending on the answers to four questions:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;1. Tool or employee replacement:&lt;/u&gt; As AI products have become more powerful, the debate about whether AI&#39;s future lies primarily as a tool or as replacement for human labor has also raged. In &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/03/ai-scenarios-from-economic-doomsday-to.html&quot;&gt;a post earlier this year&lt;/a&gt;, I focused on a Citrini report that played out the effects of the latter, highlighting the costs to the economy of laid-off white collar workers (and their income) and the effects on the market. In that post, I did note that notwithstanding public stories of layoffs in software companies, there has been little evidence (so far) of aggregate displacement of labor in any sector, at least so far. The takeaway, at least from this discussion, is that AI&#39;s disruptor role will be far greater, as will its total addressable market, if it replaces employees, rather than is used as a tool.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNiMSAbSdZot4kmF-dPTZOB-RjNVQshRrU71Pa5hdFF8MMvjReA1oL-IR43uix7HvMax6vgjP8gpEX19tKaoyPNVH_c8pjyb8ayKS69BmA2OEpz3JQ8yd-oKuEuSGzsR8gmPvDzzoJVE8mUm3HKq_pZ84iY8svCcgjM58g7uibv7-pNZk4YJ9OB1WU9ak/s1058/AIToolsvsDisplacementMatrix.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;978&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1058&quot; height=&quot;370&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNiMSAbSdZot4kmF-dPTZOB-RjNVQshRrU71Pa5hdFF8MMvjReA1oL-IR43uix7HvMax6vgjP8gpEX19tKaoyPNVH_c8pjyb8ayKS69BmA2OEpz3JQ8yd-oKuEuSGzsR8gmPvDzzoJVE8mUm3HKq_pZ84iY8svCcgjM58g7uibv7-pNZk4YJ9OB1WU9ak/w400-h370/AIToolsvsDisplacementMatrix.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The logic for why AI tools than AI as employee replacement will have a smaller market is simple one, from a business perspectives. Businesses spend money on tools, but that spending will be in addition to what they already spend on employees, and while they rationalize that spending with (promised) improved productivity, it has to be a fraction of employee compensation. You can also why the current AI players (OpenAI, Anthropic) are opting for speedier disruption over a slower one, because it will then increase their odds of winning, albeit with higher displacement costs for society.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;2. Pricing of AI products&lt;/u&gt;: In the last year. Anthropic and OpenAI have garnered publicity for their most powerful products (Claude, Codex etc.), and while some of them do offer the capabilities that will allow them to replace workers, they are expensive enough that it will make sense to use them only for high-paid labor.&amp;nbsp; In 2023, the US government estimated, based upon personal income statistics, that the highest quintile accounted for 51% of all employee compensation. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg081vnx7cg5jOZqzCwZJATf9MJcdufnpDj14ZZYcSqlCIT2WKZDgEzNfTnWhw4xlwQ2O0-9FumU8WcoTFEQALeqE3jBPYtt8NFEDJ_oZn9hyphenhyphentTM4tZrLcOLgNqFCJPNIBkApK2_qdL25u29NPNpeAjaAYCC0N1VYeU6DH2Lm45JHZhI6uonr9YSJDtY64/s2788/QuntileIncomeChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2022&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2788&quot; height=&quot;290&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg081vnx7cg5jOZqzCwZJATf9MJcdufnpDj14ZZYcSqlCIT2WKZDgEzNfTnWhw4xlwQ2O0-9FumU8WcoTFEQALeqE3jBPYtt8NFEDJ_oZn9hyphenhyphentTM4tZrLcOLgNqFCJPNIBkApK2_qdL25u29NPNpeAjaAYCC0N1VYeU6DH2Lm45JHZhI6uonr9YSJDtY64/w400-h290/QuntileIncomeChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF10501&quot;&gt;Source: Library of Congress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Bringing this factor into play with the total employee compensation of $12.96 trillion in the United States, you can argue that only about half of that market (at the most) is open to disruption from AI replacement products,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;3. Breadth of use&lt;/u&gt;: There are some industries where AI will make more inroads, and do so sooner, than others, and what separates them will be the nature of work in the business. As we noted just a little bit earlier, software and coding have been the easiest entry points for AI products, since the output tends to be more rule driven and easily verifiable An article in the Harvard Business Review, for instance, measured the risk of displacement across different occupations:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiEUvarzOhl_trnFlwFkz7qt0pM155auL99Wn6SAHu654enX-5gzaqK753JcMW4vo9wOpqcoVVkxbAu2p1ALSeO_83qmoQCw3hiR17xkQxpPONZKzl70sDY4A1IJ_uJe5jv0fpvZttUfIcpU4VXRwOaP78xOGVxHeoxDWjWjtx8P-SohSCPAOIi7Q05Glo/s1740/JobExposure%20toAIdisruption.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1740&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1614&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiEUvarzOhl_trnFlwFkz7qt0pM155auL99Wn6SAHu654enX-5gzaqK753JcMW4vo9wOpqcoVVkxbAu2p1ALSeO_83qmoQCw3hiR17xkQxpPONZKzl70sDY4A1IJ_uJe5jv0fpvZttUfIcpU4VXRwOaP78xOGVxHeoxDWjWjtx8P-SohSCPAOIi7Q05Glo/w371-h400/JobExposure%20toAIdisruption.jpg&quot; width=&quot;371&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.library.hbs.edu/working-knowledge/enhance-or-eliminate-how-ai-will-likely-change-these-jobs&quot;&gt;Research from Suraj Srinivasan, Harvard Business Review&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;I would expect AI to be more successful, both as a tool and employee displacer, in settings where there is less client or personal interaction and more rule-driven than principle-driven jobs. If you look back at operating expenses, broken down by sector, the sectors most exposed to AI disruption (technology and financials) have aggregated operating expenses the amount to less than 20% of the global total, whereas sectors more immune (industrials, materials, real estate utilities) amount to a third of the global total.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;4. Geography&lt;/u&gt;: If you consider the fact that AI is more likely to displace workers and generate revenues in non-manufacturing companies that have high priced labor, it follows that the disruptive effects of AI will be greatest in the United States and have a smaller footprint elsewhere in the world.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLLjJVMAXwp8Pa3LXAevgi7aE2B4CyY14NCQ1wEqX2TsmEpANlVmzkWcAAaGT4h1MiagJeVpqdwYG1yRNmXAmzsIv90_aZxy8Xrv8JAuQcCg0akChT_JuH5zR6Wql6uK6D75jEbS9Akxzon6d5oMaLnU7yxUbvwQApbUrnjlZ8MUNTYBZiMp0B4m-1z8w/s1842/IncomeGeogrpahyCHART.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1344&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1842&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLLjJVMAXwp8Pa3LXAevgi7aE2B4CyY14NCQ1wEqX2TsmEpANlVmzkWcAAaGT4h1MiagJeVpqdwYG1yRNmXAmzsIv90_aZxy8Xrv8JAuQcCg0akChT_JuH5zR6Wql6uK6D75jEbS9Akxzon6d5oMaLnU7yxUbvwQApbUrnjlZ8MUNTYBZiMp0B4m-1z8w/w400-h291/IncomeGeogrpahyCHART.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/charting-income-distributions-worldwide/&quot;&gt;Source: Visual Capitalist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Looking back at the table that breaks down operating expenses geographically, for publicly traded firms, you can see that the US, Europe and China are the three biggest markets for AI, since these are regions of the world where companies spent most on operations in the aggregate&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;If you consider $26 trillion as your upper limit for AI&#39;s total market, in current dollars, your estimate of the size of the AI market will depend on your assessments of whether you fall on each of the four factors, with the largest assessments of TAM emerging from a view of AI as an employee replacement that cuts across industries and geographies, but with a cost for AI agents low enough to replace workers with lower income. At the other extreme, your assessment of the TAM will be much lower, if you view it as a tool, no matter how powerful, with application in select industries and geographies.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4RKr0dtsnNBW2pCdDBV6wwJpvzBFQUMf1srTdLwRzgZAYOt7jO57TxRxiFpAnB9cReKif2sryU1qCoEeSzn3sOs-CLPNC_qZMzbFoN1WGijmNBkFUNjsVqdMh3OJ7M-kxWyNJBnb0TxgVadw5YzSQINt2XMUlN1uq9MOujE5wuNvSjFgncmvxcaMKAsE/s2740/AITAMImplications.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2056&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2740&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4RKr0dtsnNBW2pCdDBV6wwJpvzBFQUMf1srTdLwRzgZAYOt7jO57TxRxiFpAnB9cReKif2sryU1qCoEeSzn3sOs-CLPNC_qZMzbFoN1WGijmNBkFUNjsVqdMh3OJ7M-kxWyNJBnb0TxgVadw5YzSQINt2XMUlN1uq9MOujE5wuNvSjFgncmvxcaMKAsE/w400-h300/AITAMImplications.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Updated on Aug 21, with implications added on&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Rather than view different assessments of AI TAM as &quot;he said, she said&quot; disagreements, the debate would be much more grounded if these assessors were explicit about where they stand on the dimensions (AI as tool or employee replacement, target high-priced workers or all employees, useful in a subset of industries or all industries and primarily US-based or global) that drive their estimates.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In my first economics class, I became very fond of the words &quot;ceteris paribus&quot;, latin for &quot;all other things being held equal&quot;, partly because it does make it easier to focus on what&#39;s changing, but mostly because latin makes you sound smarter than you really are. Holding all else constant may be reasonable, when change is small, but when the change is revolutionary, as AI could very well be, it is no longer reasonable to make that assumption. Consequently, I think it behooves anyone making an assessment of AI&#39;s total addressable market to think through the implications for the rest of the economy and the world, because there may be constraints there that need to be considered. &lt;i&gt;The most optimistic scenarios for AI investors and businesses, where the market for AI products is largest, are also scenarios where the damage done to other businesses is greatest and the impact on employment and the economy, in the near term, is most negative.&lt;/i&gt; Put simply, if the AI market explodes in size and does so quickly, and millions of high-paid workers lose their jobs, the economic damage will be deep, and there may very well be insufficient income to buy the products that the AI revolution creates. It is possible that in the long term, AI&#39;s benefits may exceed its costs, but that will occur in a very different economic setting than the one we have right now.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Every revolutionary change gives rise to new businesses, some of which are extraordinarily successful. The internet business was the starting point for online retailing, with Amazon as its most successful player, streaming entertainment, with Netflix and Spotify, as players, and search, with Yahoo! and Google cashing in. The smartphone was the vehicle used by a host by intermediary businesses, with Uber, Airbnb and Doordash, all changing the businesses they entered, as well as social media, with Facebook and Tiktok emerging as big winners. If AI&#39;s promise plays out, it is almost certain that it too will be the launching pad for new businesses. If you are tempted to count the revenues of these businesses as part of AI&#39;s payoff, there are two reasons for caution:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Net benefit test&lt;/i&gt;: All of the companies that I mentioned in the last paragraph were immensely successful, but some or much of their success came at the expense of existing players. Notwithstanding Amazon&#39;s astonishing success in online retailing in the last 25 years, retailing as a business has not seen explosive growth, since brick and mortar retailers have largely been left in the dust. The success of entertainment streaming companies has not only come at the expense of traditional entertainment companies, but in the aggregate, it has made the business less profitable. It is true that ride sharing has caused the car service business to become larger, as ride share use changes user behavior, but it has contributed to wounding the auto business. The most telling statistic on the impact of disruption, especially from technology companies in the last four decades, is that real GDP growth has been mostly stagnant in much of the world for that period, suggesting that the net impact on economic activity is modest, at best.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;S&lt;i&gt;haring the pie&lt;/i&gt;: Even if you take the gross added value from new businesses (in revenues, earnings or value) for revolutionary change as a given, it is unclear what the companies that were the architects of that change gain as a result. The internet was built by telecom companies (with investments in cables and phone wires and supplemented by equipment companies (like Cisco), but none of them benefited from the rise of internet companies like Amazon. The smartphone was built and popularized by Apple and Samsung, but they don&#39;t get a slice of what Uber and Doordash make, when customers use smartphones to access their services. Apple benefits at the margin, as customers are coaxed into a cycle of replacing existing phones with newer versions, but the benefits are tangential.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;If you look at the history of revolutionary changes, from the steam engine (factory age) and railroads, all the way to the technological changes of the last four decades, it has generally been the case that while the companies that build the architecture for these changes initially benefit, the big winners often catapult themselves off that architecture. You can make the argument that AI will be different, but for AI architecture companies to gain a slice of the new businesses that emerge from their technologies, they will need different business models.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. Industry Economics&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Accepting the premise that AI products and services will have a big market, in terms of revenues, is just the first step in structuring its business argument, and in this section, I will focus on converting those revenues into profitability, by first looking at the business models that AI producers can consider adopting, with pluses and minuses, as well as unit economics and economies of scale, measuring what it will cost companies to produce the AI products that they are selling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;a. Business Models&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;In keeping with the trial-and-error process that characterizes young industries seeking workable business models, we have seen AI businesses experiment with different versions on at least two dimensions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Subscription versus Usage Models&lt;/u&gt;: Early in AI&#39;s business evolution, subscription models for both individuals and enterprises were the entry point for AI companies, and while those subscription models still bring in revenues, companies have shifted away from them for a simple reason. Unlike businesses like streaming or even software, where the marginal cost of an additional subscriber is zero or close to zero, AI products and services are expensive to generate, in terms of compute costs and data, and both Anthropic and OpenAI have discovered that subscribers, left unchecked, quickly become cost generators rather than profit centers. Thus, it should come as no surprise that Anthropic has shifted to usage-based models, where users (especially at the enterprise level) pay based on how much and how intensively they use AI products. OpenAI is still more dependent on subscription models that Anthropic, but it too is seeing a shift to usage-based models.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIW0_tlnq7PRlxKvPHo3GjdDH-Xt_EoVTft5FGGpc3sSvpGUw-fl9felowIUfE-H5HYfNG2vay53rjDULckJpJtuLjo0Umxn1oTtghtTZIy0NPYBMHihfMggSMmXnaYLZVXEcxqWN6Yt7gaqG4Xpk3nkNdFgiGQ7_DmCqUYVZbtVaPtJ8vXU5474A121E/s1822/AIRevSourceatAIcos.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1332&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1822&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIW0_tlnq7PRlxKvPHo3GjdDH-Xt_EoVTft5FGGpc3sSvpGUw-fl9felowIUfE-H5HYfNG2vay53rjDULckJpJtuLjo0Umxn1oTtghtTZIy0NPYBMHihfMggSMmXnaYLZVXEcxqWN6Yt7gaqG4Xpk3nkNdFgiGQ7_DmCqUYVZbtVaPtJ8vXU5474A121E/w400-h293/AIRevSourceatAIcos.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: Leaks and estimates&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border-color: currentcolor; border-image: none; border-style: none; border-width: medium; border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While advances may change the economics, it looks like while AI-subscription models will stay available, they will come with strict limits on usage, and that the bulk of revenues in this market will be based on usage. At the same time, there will be differences across AI companies, based on whether they are targeting the premium AI market, where usage-based models will dominate, or the mass market, where subscription models will continue to be offered.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Open versus Closed Models&lt;/u&gt;: There is an open and vigorous debate going on in AI circles as to whether the AI businesses should&amp;nbsp; offer clients and customers &lt;a href=&quot;https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/ai-open-models-have-benefits-so-why-arent-they-more-widely-used&quot;&gt;open models (where clients can modify, adapt and build on the models) or closed models (where they are not allowed to do so)&lt;/a&gt;. This debate is complicated because there are multiple forces that come into play including how power in this space is concentrated (with closed models giving its makers more power), how much privacy they offer (where the argument is that open models require less sharing of private data) and how safe they are (where it is posited that open models can be more easily hacked and turned into disinformation). All that said, there is clearly a business economics twist to this debate. Closed models give the companies that sell them more pricing power (higher margins), and perhaps are stickier (making it difficult to switch away), because they are customized, but they require more resources to build and maintain (higher costs) and may work only with premium products. As with subscription versus usage models, you are likely to see divergence, with companies targeting the premium market more likely to stay with closed models and those building more workhorse applications trying their hand at open models.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As I noted at the start, it is still early in the game, and as technology, regulation and cost structures shift, not only will there be more twists and turns involved, but it is likely that in steady state, we will have different choices for different segments of the AI markets, more subscription-based and open models in mass markets and more usage-based and closed models in premium markets.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;b. Unit Economics&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Through much of its existence, technology, as a business, has largely benefited from beneficial unit economics. It costs a software company almost nothing to sell its next unit, and for most platform companies (Netflix, Uber, Airbnb), the cost of adding a user or subscriber, once the platform is constructed is negligible. As a consequence, being the largest player or a first mover can put you on a pathway to industry dominance, with large market share and high profit margins thrown in. Early in its life, AI was thrown in by some into the technology pile, and it was assumed that it too would have the same characteristics, i.e., that it would cost little or nothing to produce the additional unit and that high margins and dominant market shares will follow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; With the caveat that things can change quickly, the evolution of the AI product and service market has turned out to be different, and some of those differences look like they are baked in. Beginning with the fact that AI products require more capital intensity, in terms of data center build and cap ex prior to operation, they are also proving costly to produce, at least in their most powerful forms. One way to see the dual forces driving unit economics in AI at play is to focus in on AI tokens, the currency of AI production. The good news, in terms of unit economics, is that the cost of producing a token has dropped dramatically, as AI infrastructure gets built out, but the bad news is that the tokens used to create AI products has surged almost as dramatically, as these products become more powerful. As a result, the price of accessing frontier AI models has increased over time:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgl1JsGDMn1MSzmyiARIO3DMjt54M3F5mTJKc8sQuPtfgC1ddbj28DiMP-cf0tEjMT5M-DE61Gafc3BxodMa_yojwvVUUPEXVWjBypkTxRn_2e_qFiHyDBpjR9uPENplSKnj035QaqMcegK-ufl8llcwHvjOojE6N3UVqcAySNSQhbdtiJcwjcBtNzeYGY/s3992/AI%20token%20cost%20and%20access%20price.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1292&quot; data-original-width=&quot;3992&quot; height=&quot;130&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgl1JsGDMn1MSzmyiARIO3DMjt54M3F5mTJKc8sQuPtfgC1ddbj28DiMP-cf0tEjMT5M-DE61Gafc3BxodMa_yojwvVUUPEXVWjBypkTxRn_2e_qFiHyDBpjR9uPENplSKnj035QaqMcegK-ufl8llcwHvjOojE6N3UVqcAySNSQhbdtiJcwjcBtNzeYGY/w400-h130/AI%20token%20cost%20and%20access%20price.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Sources: &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://tokenpriceindex.com&quot;&gt;Token Price Index&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;These two trend lines point to a divergence that is coming to the AI products and services market. In mass market AI, where AI tools are basic and don&#39;t need power boosts, you should expect costs for AI products to go down.&amp;nbsp; In the premium market, where you are building AI products either as tools on high-end tasks or as replacement for highly priced labor, the costs will be tougher to reduce, if each upgrade in product power puts demands on the inputs - more data to process, more power to run data centers and more powerful chips in the data centers - that causes these input costs to rise.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;c. Moats and Competitive Advantages&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Allowing&amp;nbsp;unit economics and economies of scale to play out in the AI business, you still have a final piece of the business puzzle to consider to make the leap to profitability, where you bring, as you would in any business, the moats and competitive advantages that will separate the winners from the wannabes. Since this is a question that we ask about every business, it makes sense to start this discussion by looking at potential competitive advantages in any business:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3a3Pk0wsl4nSORdrxB0y1jHgHBOZ3RPQgC8oMGNETIpzKgLcWCGMdW_NK9errsY8tFtrcj6U4fAd2qnaJpALOJ-KvDFxavkuPjfKCKE2-9-K5-ZSAMhL0gc1ZHtGVC4P7jmn7BnPZCG-7l7spqoXJSFeFiGGlB2Hg-mWxnSCySVHTd-xfaoh8sAxw26E/s1118/MoatssinBusiness.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;522&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1118&quot; height=&quot;186&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3a3Pk0wsl4nSORdrxB0y1jHgHBOZ3RPQgC8oMGNETIpzKgLcWCGMdW_NK9errsY8tFtrcj6U4fAd2qnaJpALOJ-KvDFxavkuPjfKCKE2-9-K5-ZSAMhL0gc1ZHtGVC4P7jmn7BnPZCG-7l7spqoXJSFeFiGGlB2Hg-mWxnSCySVHTd-xfaoh8sAxw26E/w400-h186/MoatssinBusiness.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Focusing in on AI, the question that we first face is which of these moats is most likely to be the defining one in AI, and I believe that the answer depends on which segment of the AI market you are looking at:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In &lt;i&gt;mass market AI&lt;/i&gt;, where products and services are standardized and basic, you should expect competitive advantages to flow from unit costs being lower at a company than at its competitors, either because of scale (with bigger companies having an advantage) or proprietary access to data.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In &lt;i&gt;premium AI&lt;/i&gt;, where products are customized, powerful and pricey, you should expect the winners to be companies that have the technological know-how to craft these products, while bringing the costs of delivering power under control. In addition, products that are built around client data, especially if the client is protective of that data, will become stickier and more difficult to displace, giving companies that make them more pricing power for a longer period.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Does having the people perceived as the smartest in the AI space working for you give you a competitive advantage? At the moment, the answer seems to be yes, and you saw this phenomenon at play when Jeff Dean, chief scientist at Google DeepMind (its AI entity), left the company in 2026 to create his own AI start-up, and the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/05/google-chief-scientist-jeff-dean-leaving-company-after-27-years.html&quot;&gt;market reacted by knocking Alphabet&#39;s market cap down by 5.4%&lt;/a&gt; (more than $100 billion). In the same vein, the AI firms (especially Anthropic and OpenAI) have been raiding universities for their &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/07/ai-companies-hiring-academics/688002/&quot;&gt;computer science and technology talent,&lt;/a&gt; with some &lt;a href=&quot;https://cryptobriefing.com/anthropic-hires-chad-jones-ai-risks/&quot;&gt;AI-focused economists&lt;/a&gt; thrown into the mix and even a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-amanda-askell-philosopher-ai-3c031883&quot;&gt;few philosophers&lt;/a&gt;. I think that the attention paid to these people hires and departures are indicative of how young this industry is, and how much its success will depend on building products right and marketing them to the right customers, and as it matures, I expect this factor to fade in prominence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Is there a potential brand name advantage? Put simply, would you be willing to pay a premium price for a Claude agent over an AI agent crafted by a different company? The answer is still being worked out, because in addition to all of the business elements of this choice (product power, reliability), &lt;b&gt;trust &lt;/b&gt;is a factor, since client companies are giving AI products access to secrets and data. It should come as no surprise then that AI companies are all competing in the virtue space, where each one puts itself out as more trustworthy and caring about public good than the next one. It may be cynical of me, but when I hear Dario Amodei or Sam Altman wax eloquent about how they plan to protect the world from the dark side of AI, I feel the urge to quote Shakespeare, and say &quot;thou doth protest too much&quot;. Ultimately, actions speak louder than words, and these companies will be judged based more on how they behave, when confronted with ethical questions, than on what the write about themselves.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;3. Constraints and Limits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;While much of this post has been about AI&#39;s business prospects and evolution, there are parallel discussions that are occurring about AI&#39;s impact on society. There are four reasons why AI&#39;s social and cultural effects are being so widely debated:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot;&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Real estate footprint and resource usage&lt;/u&gt;: AI, in terms of the investment footprint it is creating, is closer to the railroads in their early years than it is to any technology company. Like railroads, AI requires data centers that sprawl over huge areas, and unlike railroads, many of these areas have people living in them, whose lives will be altered by the presence of these centers. While the proponents of data centers have sold them on the basis of the economic benefits they bring, and these benefits can be real, it is quite clear that for many people who live in the vicinity, the upending of their lives is not worth the benefits. As a result, the backlash against data centers is real, showing up in politics at not only the local level, but also at the national level; it is quite clear that at least in the United States, it will be a lead topic, perhaps even a wedge issue, in the next presidential election. Another reason that data centers lead to resentment is their disproportionate use of power and water, and even if that cost is pushed back to AI companies, the costs to the planet are still being totaled.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Data privacy and power&lt;/u&gt;: Earlier in this post, I pointed to privacy as one of the dividing lines in the choice between open and closed AI models, but that is a small part of a broader question, which is about data being accumulated by and mined at AI companies. After two decades of seeing social media companies step across the privacy line in their use of private data, it is understandable that there is wariness about granting access to even vaster amounts of data to the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;People displacement&lt;/u&gt;: Going back to the discussion of the total market for AI, I noted that the best case scenarios for AI, i.e., the scenarios where the market for AI products and services will be greatest, are also scenarios where there will be not just be significant job loss, but losses in high-paying jobs. While tech advocates will point to new jobs that will be created to replace the ones lost, that transition, even if it happens, takes time and will come with pain. Looking back at the disruption of blue collar jobs in the US and Europe, from China, that disruption created pain, albeit unevenly shared, and has led to political and economic aftershocks that are still playing out across the world. If AI&#39;s disruption plays out on a broad front, the resulting displacement will be much larger, in terms of economic impact, and perhaps much more painful.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Income equality and fairness&lt;/u&gt;: For much of this century, one of the recurring themes in both political and economic circles has been the growth of the divide between the super rich and the rest of society. There is a suspicion that AI will make this divide wider, and that suspicion will only intensify with each AI company that goes public. SpaceX, when it went public at a market capitalization of close to $2 trillion created a host of centi-millionaires (worth more than $100 million) and the same phenomenon will play out when Anthropic and OpenAI hit the market. I am not a fan of setting economic policy based on greed and envy, but you can see the pushback against inequality playing out in the political arena.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you are tempted to ignore these discussions, because you are an investor or interested only in the business aspects of AI, it is only a matter of time before these spill over into economic consequences, and then into the metrics that drive business value.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Data centers will get more expensive to build&lt;/i&gt;, and power and water will be more tightly rationed, leading to companies having to spend both more on their upfront and capital expenditures, and as costs in generating AI products.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As concerns about data mount, there will inevitably be scandals around the misuse of data, and those scandals will lead, as they did at social media companies, to&lt;i&gt; tighter restrictions on the use of data and higher costs is acquiring and protecting that data.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The worries about being replaced by AI agents will create counter movements,&lt;/i&gt; starting with system requirements that preserve jobs for humans (even if AI makes what they do obsolete) and in some countries, requirements that their employers continue to pay displaced employees for extended periods, in the event of layoffs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If AI creates its own cache of billionaires and centi-millionaires, &lt;i&gt;the push towards wealth taxes, no matter what you may think about their effectiveness or fairness, will intensify&lt;/i&gt;, as will the creation of new tiers in the tax table for higher incomes, and perhaps for AI income.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It has always been difficult to start and build businesses in new industries, and ti becomes doubly so when the rest of the world consigns you to the dark side. If you are an investor in this space, especially one excited about the size of the potential market and pathways to profitability, you need to be realistic in incorporating the constraints that are already cropping up, and will become more binding, into your valuation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As AI&#39;s story line unfolds in ways that invite public pushback, it is worth noting the possibility that this storyline can still change, especially if AI delivers on its promise to change people&#39;s lives for the better. In the last year, I have seen stories, some already happening and some far fetched, of AI&#39;s capacity to solve mathematical challenges that have deterred our greatest mathematicians, to diagnose diseases that the best-trained doctors seem to miss and perhaps even to come up with cures for diseases that have eluded those seeking them. That power comes from tAI&#39;s brain capacity, which unlike those of human beings, is expandable and its ability to not just remember everything that is fed into it, but make connections across data in different disciplines. As I noted earlier, the benefits from these advances will, for the most part, flow not just to other businesses, but will benefit society. If the big AI players want a more welcoming environment to grow, it behooves them to make these social investments, perhaps drawing on AT&amp;amp;T&#39;s nurturing of Bell Labs for much of the last century as a place for research that benefits humanity as inspiration. It is true that none of the big AI companies is a regulatory monopoly, as AT&amp;amp;T was, but it should be feasible for them to pool resources to fund a Bell Labs like entity. It will be costly, but they will collectively benefit from the social dividends.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;From Macro to Micro: Zeroing in on company valuations and investments&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; This post has focused on AI as a business, and if your interest is in valuing an enterprise in the space, whether publicly traded like SpaceX or Alphabet or privately owned (but heading for an IPO like Anthropic or OpenAI), you may wonder how it helps you in that endeavor. There are two ways you can approach these valuations. In the first, you can start with the market capitalization (actual in the case of publicly traded companies and estimated in the case of private businesses) and examine what you would need in terms of end revenues and profit margins to justify the market capitalization. In the second, you can start with the company that you are valuing, and lay out a roadmap for that company in terms of product choices (premium or mass market, open or closed) and estimate what it will be able to deliver in terms of revenues, profits and cashflows over its lifetime.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Reverse Engineering Breakeven Points&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;In a post, late last year, I l&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/12/trillion-dollar-market-caps-fairy-tale.html&quot;&gt;ooked at the handful of companies, mostly tech, that have trillion dollar market capitalizations&lt;/a&gt;, and rather than take the knee-jerk reactions, i.e., that they must be overvalued with that market cap or that they must be great companies, because the market assigns them a lofty price, I looked at what these companies will have to deliver in terms of operating metrics in the future to justify their valuation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJjwgwxPBDSKM6jHHEiAT_iJkQgpSlrNjeVwYGuypauilVZ-JqBPR0iqKNvoH3S_jd-kHeO5hneqV4H3koABlUnrgMwr4EwCQ8hWBsr39javZ-wzGllMbxAx8pzinn07QpI-fXY5DTcWC1nWK5ePm9mMRevltikVOHXFCDwSB9Vaj9vp9JlARWH3BhJBU/s1448/BreakevenPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;908&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1448&quot; height=&quot;251&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJjwgwxPBDSKM6jHHEiAT_iJkQgpSlrNjeVwYGuypauilVZ-JqBPR0iqKNvoH3S_jd-kHeO5hneqV4H3koABlUnrgMwr4EwCQ8hWBsr39javZ-wzGllMbxAx8pzinn07QpI-fXY5DTcWC1nWK5ePm9mMRevltikVOHXFCDwSB9Vaj9vp9JlARWH3BhJBU/w400-h251/BreakevenPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;We are effectively reversing the intrinsic value process, and trying to answer the question of how much revenues will have to be in a future year (where you specify when the company or business will be mature or steady state), given your company characteristics in terms of risk, profit margins and reinvestment needs. &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/BreakevenAnthropic.xlsx&quot;&gt;With Anthropic,&lt;/a&gt; for instance, where the rumored pricing for the IPO is $2 trillion, allowing the company premium pricing margins (after-tax operating margin of 30%) and above-average risk (cost of capital of 10%), the company will have to generate close to $1.2 trillion in revenues, if the AI market matures in ten years, and close to $2 trillion, if the wait is 15 years. That should give ammunition to both those bullish about the company, because in their story line, Anthropic products will be premium priced and replace workers across industries and geographies, and to those who are bearish, since that scenario looks unlikely.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In fact, you can consider AI companies in the aggregate, by adding up the market capitalizations of companies that are already public (or at least the portion of the revenues that come from AI) as well as the rumored pricing of companies like OpenAI and Anthropic, waiting to go public, and going through the same exercise. Using an aggregated market pricing of $5 trillion (probably a conservative judgment, given the VC pricing of hundreds of companies in the space)&amp;nbsp; attached to all AI product and service companies, and assigning a blended operating margin of 20% for the industry, the revenues that you would need for the e&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/BreakevenAIBusiness.xlsx&quot;&gt;ntire business to breakeven would be $5 trillion&lt;/a&gt;, with a 10-year wait, and more than $8 trillion, if the wait is 15 years. Looking back at the discussion of the total addressable market in the earlier section, you can see that this would represent quite a reach, a manifestation of the big market delusion.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I will be the first to admit the limitations of this reverse engineering, but when data is still scarce or non-existent, it does provide a framework for reasonableness and a constraint on story telling. In fact, you can use this framework to examine what any investment, whether it be the price you pay as an investor for an AI business or the capital expenditure into AI made by a company, will have to generate to break even as an investment. Thus, if you are questioning whether Microsoft or Meta&#39;s AI cap ex is value creating or destroying, you can use &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/breakevenrevenue.xlsx&quot;&gt;this generic breakeven spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;, to make your own judgment.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. Build up to value&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;If you follow the AI business script laid out in the class, you also have a process for valuing any AI company that hopes to make money in this space, but to put this process into the play, here are some of the issues that you will have to address to estimate value.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Product choice and market focus&lt;/u&gt;: If the AI market splits into premium and mass-market product market, the first step in valuing any company in this space will be to &lt;i&gt;make a judgment on which of these markets the company will target,&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;how much of its revenues will come each of the segments&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Unit economics and economies of scale at company&lt;/u&gt;: The choice of market segment matters&amp;nbsp; because the unit economics and economies of scale you assume for the company will have to be consistent. AI companies that offer mass market products will charge lower prices, with a greater percentage of revenues coming from subscriptions, but will benefit more quickly from improving unit economics, as the cost of AI tokens continues to fall. In contrast, AI companies that target premium markets, will earn higher profit margins and have stronger moats, but struggle more with unit economics, as token usage increases with product power.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Competitive advantages and moats&lt;/u&gt;: The types of competitive advantages (moats) that the company you are valuing will seek out, and lock in, if successful, will also vary depending on the targeted market, with cost advantages and scale working in the company&#39;s favor, with mass markets, and technological edges and product stickiness being more sought after, with premium products.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Investment needed to deliver growth&lt;/u&gt;: While AI companies are more capital intensive than their tech counterparts, the additional reinvestment needed to deliver value can be altered by investments already made by a company. Companies that have built capacity in advance of growth will be worth more than companies that will have to reinvest contemporaneously to deliver growth, and companies that find ways to invest more efficiently will also have higher value. It is interesting that starting with Deepseek, China seems to be trying the latter path to AI dominance, using less expensive (and less powerful) AI chips and not investing as much in mega data centers, and it may very well be the right choice, for much of the AI product and service market.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Regulatory constraints (current and in the future):&lt;/u&gt; To the extent that regulators and governments have a great deal at stake, the value of a company can be affected by where it operates geographically and the rules and regulations that govern AI products in that geography. If past behavior is an indicator, the EU will be an inhospitable setting, for AI products and companies, and that may make a difference in how you value Mistral, with a base in France and more European-focused clients.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I did try my hand at this process, when I valued xAI as part of SpaceX, and I learned from doing so, but the company&#39;s stakes in space launch and internet service did muddy the waters. As Anthropic and OpenAI move towards their public offerings, I am looking forward to applying the framework developed in this post to those firms, when their prospectuses are made public. In keeping with my belief that it is best to be open about biases, I will confess that the rumored pricing for both companies ($1.5 to $ 2 trillion) looks rich, but I am open to being surprised.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; At the start of this post, I noted that I was writing this post for myself, because like many in this space, I was finding myself pulled in a dozen different directions on AI, and desperately in need of a framework for thinking about whether I should be paying attention in the first place, how to reconcile competing viewpoints and what it means to me, as an investor. This is my try at creating a comprehensive framework, and I am sure that there are elements that I have missed and holes in my thinking, but it is a start. I am clear eyed about what this AI framework will not and will do for me; it will not tell me what the TAM for AI products and services will be or whether Anthropic is worth $ 2 trillion, but it will give me bounds for my estimates of TAM, allow me to determine that a $22 trillion TAM for AI is fiction and recognize that having your ARR grow 80% a year last year is not even close to being a rationale for why you should buy Anthropic at a $2 trillion pricing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;As you work your way through the framework, there will be room for significant disagreement on the reach of AI and its value as a business and anyone who claims to have conviction that they know what&#39;s coming is being either ignorant or arrogant. That ties in well &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/08/the-situational-awareness-blow-up.html&quot;&gt;with my last post,&lt;/a&gt; where I examined the swift rise and the even swifter fall of Leo Aschenbrenner, whose entire investment strategy was built around the conviction that AI would decisively and quickly win the disruption war. The problem that I noted was not that his vision was not plausible (it was), but that it was definitely not certain, or at least assured enough to borrow immense amounts to fund it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/AAi9QIl6gw8?si=7QWViNdt8meJh5pc&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/WagesbySector.xlsx&quot;&gt;Employee compensation for all US workers - 1929 to 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/OperExpBreakdownGlobal2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Revenues &amp;amp; Operating expenses, broken down by sector and geography&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/BreakevenEnterprisevalue.xlsx&quot;&gt;Generic breakeven calculator (for both company pricing and AI cap ex)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/BreakevenAnthropic.xlsx&quot;&gt;Anthropic breakeven&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/BreakevenAIBusiness.xlsx&quot;&gt;AI Business (aggregate) breakeven&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/9193980372627956092/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/9193980372627956092' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/9193980372627956092'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/9193980372627956092'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/08/ais-bar-mitzvah-moment-from-hype-hope.html' title='AI&#39;s Bar Mitzvah Moment: From Hype &amp; Hope to Business Questions!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieF9ccr4palemNCYpPgnsfGVx5ac51S7c6CtbK3EvIgvQleNoLbELJ9sSoo5qWy8DG_DGj9hPOyJp2FV9emjGilWsDYxS4oxHVroIFMWZy1-ka1sbMW2jARxYOS5Phj5ADzYHZ0DjBTIlze-drCXEEe40iYQc1da-xUwtCJ3jUGkEKwEwRTBQ2mTOLYgw/s72-w335-h400-c/BigMarketDelusion.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2916056897589773791</id><published>2026-08-10T22:15:39.472-04:00</published><updated>2026-08-11T08:42:48.431-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Hedge Funds"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Smart money"/><title type='text'>The Situational Awareness Blow-up: The Collateral Damage from Investing Conviction!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Earlier this year, I was asked what I thought about Leopold Aschenbrenner and I admitted that I knew little about him other than what I had read about him, more in social media, than in the press - that he was a 25-year-old wunderkind who had started at OpenAI but had left to start a hedge fund. That hedge fund, built entirely around a bet that AI would pay off big time and near term, buying companies in the AI orbit and selling short on the businesses (especially software) that AI would disrupt, had been able to raise billions of dollars from well-heeled and presumably sophisticated investors, and had&amp;nbsp; posted eye-popping returns, up almost 450% through late June. Success of that magnitude needs no nitpicking, but it is worth remembering that there is nothing that markets enjoy more than cutting inflated egos and reputations down to size. In this case, the fall from grace was precipitous, and over the course of four weeks, the fund&#39;s public equity holdings lost more than two thirds of its value, but was also forced to liquidate, with Citadel buying almost all of its public equity holdings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The reads on the swift rise and fall of Leo have been fascinating, a Rorschach test of investing priors. For older investors, the lesson was that you can be blessed with intelligence, but that wisdom required experience, which, at least in their saying, conveniently comes with age. For value investors, many of whom chafed at Leo being hailed as the next Buffett, there was vindication that there will never be another Buffett. For AI skeptics, who have long been on the lookout for catalysts that will break AI fever, there was at least a brief moment of hope that this was the catalyst. There is some truth and some overreach in each of these responses, and I don&#39;t plan to rehash them. Instead, I would like to use this story to talk about &lt;b&gt;investing conviction&lt;/b&gt;, words used mostly in a favorable way, when people talk about success in markets. I am not as convinced that investing conviction is a net plus, but to get to that conclusion, I think we need to look at what it is, where it comes from and what it leads investors to do.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Story of Situational Awareness&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;The Situational Awareness story is inextricably tied to the story of Leopold (Leo) Aschenbrenner. The short version of his life story is that he was born in Germany in 2001, and enrolled at Columbia University when he was 15. After graduating with a degree in economics in 2021, doing research briefly at Oxford University and working at Sam Bankman-Fried&#39;s FTX fund, Leo joined OpenAI as part of the team working on AI safety. He was fired in 2024 for leaking data on the firm, though his motivations for doing so are murky and he contests the allegation, and he published &lt;a href=&quot;https://situational-awareness.ai/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/situationalawareness.pdf&quot;&gt;a long (167 page) paper titled &quot;Situational Awareness: The Decade Ahead&quot;,&lt;/a&gt; which was not only widely circulated, but also became the blueprint for the fund that he created.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The Situational Awareness fund, founded in July 2024, and initially funded by tech luminaries, quickly took off as its bets on AI chips and infrastructure and against AI-damaged sectors paid off. Its early success allowed it to attract more money, with Jane Street being one of the more prominent names involved., and with the additional capital in play, it expanded its presence. While most of the companies that made the fund&#39;s list were publicly traded, it also had a stake that Leo had acquired in Anthropic, still a private business. The numbers posted by the fund made investors notice, as can be seen by its rise From August 7, 2025, to June 23, 2026, its highest mark day:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXo8uQZJpMDXttFVJ7tuZK7HLO1sArfu_qD4B0PO5HeVhmRYlnIa8FL1W9iuQTKm_N3Rp2GOBotuMvHwyylHH1mSUqLTIB9ycF7v6BDVzP0VJOiZLzxKSh22in1VER47eWa4uHjQxQbMQCdxaQdtFgytsm0ihkbLYUY4woP8hrMHvE9a5-qSiaVofJF14/s2286/SATheRise.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;928&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2286&quot; height=&quot;163&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXo8uQZJpMDXttFVJ7tuZK7HLO1sArfu_qD4B0PO5HeVhmRYlnIa8FL1W9iuQTKm_N3Rp2GOBotuMvHwyylHH1mSUqLTIB9ycF7v6BDVzP0VJOiZLzxKSh22in1VER47eWa4uHjQxQbMQCdxaQdtFgytsm0ihkbLYUY4woP8hrMHvE9a5-qSiaVofJF14/w400-h163/SATheRise.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://portfolioslab.com&quot;&gt;Source: Portfolios Lab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Measuring returns from August 7, 2025, Situational Awareness was up about 367% through June 19, 2026 and its returns since founding are even more stratospheric. Even at its peak, there were three caveats that any investor with experience in the market would (or should) have brought up. First, in market time, where decades of over performance are needed to separate luck than skill, a fund that has been successful for a little more than two years qualifies more as a shooting star than as a beacon of light. Second, to deliver returns of this magnitude, you not only have to be right in your guesses, but those guesses must be super-charged by adding substantial leverage to your strategy, either explicitly (by borrowing) or implicitly (by using options). Third, the fund followed the classic 2% (of funds under management) and 20 (% of specified upside) fee structure, an abomination that not only creates an almost insurmountable handicap, in the long term, for investors in the fund, but also encourages reckless risk taking on the part of management.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If the rise of the fund was breathtaking, its fall was even more so, and you can see the meltdown in the four weeks of July in the graph below, which looks at the fund performance from June 19, 2026 to July 29, 2026, the last day of trading for the day, before the fund was liquidated:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEirMsiry0N2DuOs5KwOAfhuU4yrT8GgP5v8mtC7ZjX7PL4thyuGR-PcXYaFQ1Cd8YqsMam5TZ19DQv7AoMyEVQeCVD3Qxk_wOEgdHG3sSIQRKT_iArtUeyfKfyxTiQmQm7PNRWtRZFrmTB7pKGAUmNSburUg91EL9LR0gh5tJuUaJ8Q66Hnw0aGM3-6E-g/s2254/SATheDown.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;818&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2254&quot; height=&quot;145&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEirMsiry0N2DuOs5KwOAfhuU4yrT8GgP5v8mtC7ZjX7PL4thyuGR-PcXYaFQ1Cd8YqsMam5TZ19DQv7AoMyEVQeCVD3Qxk_wOEgdHG3sSIQRKT_iArtUeyfKfyxTiQmQm7PNRWtRZFrmTB7pKGAUmNSburUg91EL9LR0gh5tJuUaJ8Q66Hnw0aGM3-6E-g/w400-h145/SATheDown.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://portfolioslab.com&quot;&gt;Source: Portfolios Lab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Note that the loss of principal (of more than 43%), with the Anthropic holding value retaining mostly intact, as a private holding, but with the public investment portion of the portfolio down by almost 67%. I am sure that there will be case studies and forensic analysis of what happened in these weeks, but for me, the lesson is one of market symmetry. What the market gives easily, it also takes away just as easily, and if you put into place strategies that are designed to deliver outsized returns, you have to live with the reality that you can have outsized losses. The surprise, though, for many is not that the fund lost money in July, but that it did not survive the month, and was forced to sell much of its public investment portfolio to Citadel, at prices, that at least in hindsight, look like bargain basement levels.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conviction: What is it and where does it come from?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;How do I get from the Situational Awareness story to a discussion of investment convictions? Simple! Leo&#39;s core belief that AI would win the battle with the status quo in most businesses, and that the win would be decisive and quick, was not unique, and not only are there other investors who shared that view, but there are also companies that are investing in AI cap ex, driven by that view. That said, to get from that view to a hedge fund built entirely around buying AI winners and selling AI losers requires that the belief to be deeply set and using debt to magnify those returns suggests strong conviction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;What is investment conviction?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Before we embark on a discussion of investment conviction, it is worthwhile to start with an understanding of what it means. While there a myriad of definitions out there, the general consensus is that i&lt;i&gt;nvestment conviction measures the belief that an investment opportunity will generate significant returns, relative its risks&lt;/i&gt;, and with that definition, you can see that conviction is a continuum, rather than an absolute.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLc_pCz8oh21nSfmUVr7x6gQRPYrXjI7XZOb68wB-0cuZytu0HGvT2aT6_gs7cJHd5Ks4uiirqrL6kjOGQemLvXeJYWI3LkTF1pouzZkVT-tTkPfrd1u6WzimIPT-FDIDPms6dcfr5AEHHzb75WK23LwItPZyQik8oG8S3kI2y4gFjlW_ALZViE9gSHLI/s1380/ConvictionContinuum.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;262&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1380&quot; height=&quot;76&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLc_pCz8oh21nSfmUVr7x6gQRPYrXjI7XZOb68wB-0cuZytu0HGvT2aT6_gs7cJHd5Ks4uiirqrL6kjOGQemLvXeJYWI3LkTF1pouzZkVT-tTkPfrd1u6WzimIPT-FDIDPms6dcfr5AEHHzb75WK23LwItPZyQik8oG8S3kI2y4gFjlW_ALZViE9gSHLI/w400-h76/ConvictionContinuum.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;At one end of the spectrum, you have &lt;i&gt;absolute conviction&lt;/i&gt;, where you know (or think you know) with certainty that an investment will pay off. At the other end of the spectrum is &lt;i&gt;investment mush&lt;/i&gt;, where your feelings about an investment paying off are so weak that you are unwilling to even voice that opinion, let alone put money behind it. With most investments, you fall in the middle, with the variations being in the degree of confidence that you have in being right.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As you can see, the elevation of conviction as something to be sought after in investing is because in the complete absence of conviction, you will not act and that paralysis can result in portfolios entirely or almost entirely held as cash. I don&#39;t think, though, that even the strongest proponents of conviction as a good quality in investing&amp;nbsp; would make the argument that you should feel certain about the outcome of investments, when uncertainty is part and parcel of investing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Where does conviction come from?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; So, what is it that determines investment conviction or the lack of it? To generate a basis for that discussion, let&#39;s go back to basics, and start with an assessment of what has to happen for an investment to be viewed as a money maker. No matter what your investment philosophy, &lt;i&gt;the process starts with a market price for an investment, and an assessment of what you believe is a &quot;fair price&quot; for that same investment.&lt;/i&gt; I am being agnostic about how you arrive at the fair price, leaving the door open for chartists, who may find it by looking at past price patterns, fundamentalists, who believe that you can assess fair price, only by looking at the fundamentals of the investment and traders, who may be in possession of information that leads them to believe that the current price is wrong. For the process to deliver winnings, though, there is a second part to the process that often gets less attention, which is that the market has to correct, with &lt;i&gt;the market price moving towards or even to your fair price&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOTpswfYkuGnW1BZ3yWAWLpCPfkwaD-RtqAS2MleIlJnaR_TXPXmf_0vVkwYo0M6XluuqlPSXxi5gJyR7ts8m7cQHaGY-KbcnTMsE30NP0Fd946CZ6gremvX-sPa91L4LhLNdI0PeGGvzCP74d-QMS5GHS20BXLTwtNsLOQbJvyeeImd0D2e3Xj8kIz6M/s1418/InvestmentPayoffChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;464&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1418&quot; height=&quot;131&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOTpswfYkuGnW1BZ3yWAWLpCPfkwaD-RtqAS2MleIlJnaR_TXPXmf_0vVkwYo0M6XluuqlPSXxi5gJyR7ts8m7cQHaGY-KbcnTMsE30NP0Fd946CZ6gremvX-sPa91L4LhLNdI0PeGGvzCP74d-QMS5GHS20BXLTwtNsLOQbJvyeeImd0D2e3Xj8kIz6M/w400-h131/InvestmentPayoffChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;To have conviction in an investment, you therefore need to believe strongly in three aspects of this process:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;That &lt;b&gt;your assessment of &quot;fair&quot; price is right &lt;/b&gt;(or at least more right than the market consensus)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;That &lt;b&gt;the market will correct&lt;/b&gt;, i.e., that the market price will move to, or towards, your fair price&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;That &lt;b&gt;this correction will happen during the time you plan to hold the investment (your time horizon)&lt;/b&gt;, either because the investment has an expiration date (maturity) or because you feel that there will be a catalyst that causes the correction.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;With this description in place, you can see that investment conviction will depend on the investment in question, the market that it is priced in and on the investor making the judgment.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;a. Investment Mispricing&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;If the investment process starts with an assessment of a fair price that is different from the market price, there are at least four reasons why you may be more confident in your assessment of the price of an investment, relative to the market consensus:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Private information&lt;/u&gt;: At the risk of treading on or crossing the line between the legal and the illegal, you may be in possession of information about an investment that is not available (or at least widely enough available to the public to be priced in) that you believe will change its price.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Information processing&lt;/u&gt;: To the extent that private information is rarely available to investors, and even if available, difficult to act on legally, much of active investing is built around collecting and processing information that is available to the market. That private information can range from past prices and trading volume (used by technical analysts) to public filings (the financial data that the company provides, often the basis for fundamental investors) to quasi-public information (analyst forecasts and revisions, hedge fund and mutual fund holdings). If you are using this information to assess a fair price, it is because you believe that you have found patterns in the data that others have not.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Business understanding&lt;/u&gt;: In some cases, your fair price will derive from your belief that you understand the business economics for a company better than other public investors do, with your superior understanding coming either from working in the business or from technical training. This is especially true in complex businesses (like bio pharma) and complicated assets, and likely to be&amp;nbsp; more the case with young companies, where financial history can stand in for business understanding.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Pricing mistake:&lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp;There are some investment theses that start with a market mistake, whether it be in pricing an individual asset or a pair of assets. With a pair of assets, often with similar fundamentals, the mispricing manifests with one of the assets being mispriced against the other, and the correction take place when the mispricing disappears. It is at the heart of derivatives trading, where options or futures on a traded asset can be mispriced enough that you can lock in the profits from the pricing mistake, with the guarantee of correction, when the option or futures expire.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;In sum, you can see that the degree of investment conviction that an investor has can vary across different asset markets (real estate, equities, fixed income, derivatives), geographies (developed versus emerging markets) and within equities, across industry groups and sectors (less for technology and more for utilities, for example).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;b. Market correction&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Investment conviction may start with the spotting of a market pricing mistake, but for conviction to build, you need to get a measure of when, why and how the market will correct its mistaket. Here are some of the forces that can cause variations on the market correction dimension:&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Finite maturity versus indeterminate end game&lt;/i&gt;: An investment with a finite maturity date comes with a greater likelihood that prices will correct than one without. A bond that is mispriced, by itself, or against other bonds of equal maturity, comes with a greater chance of correction than a stock that is mispriced against its own fundamentals or a paired stock. For the same reasons, if you can lock in a mispriced option against its underlying asset (or stock) or against other options of equal maturity, you are moving the odds in favor of correction. It should come as no surprise that true arbitrage, i.e., positions that can lock in guaranteed profits that exceed the riskfree rate are almost always in the fixed income or derivatives markets and that much of what passes for arbitrage in equities is quasi or pseudo arbitrage, where risk remains in the position.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Market frictions&lt;/i&gt;: Market mispricing can sometimes reflect market inattention or irrational trading, but they more often are the consequence of market frictions, including restrictions on selling short and exerting control over an investment (such as buying and liquidating a company). If that is the case, it is possible that market mistakes, while visible and seeming obvious to everyone involved, may never get corrected, or at least not get corrected until the friction is removed.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Market liquidity and depth&lt;/i&gt;: In equity markets, where there is no date by which mispricing has to disappear, corrections often require catalysts, i.e., events that lead market participants to reassess a market price, and to correct it. Those catalysts can come from corporate disclosures (earnings reports, for instance) by the mispriced company, corporate restructuring (divestitures and spin offs) or high profile investors (activists taking a stake in a under priced company or selling short an overpriced one). All of these catalysts are more likely to be present in liquid and deep markets, where information flows are more frequent and varied.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Investment time horizon&lt;/i&gt;: No matter what the market mistake, it can be argued that&amp;nbsp; having time as an ally, and being able to wait for longer periods, for market corrections, should not only give you a greater chance of gaining from a market correction, but also give you more conviction in your investment, other things being equal.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The bottom line is that you can feel (relatively) certain that an investment is mispriced, but have no conviction in that investment, if you have no sense or faith that the market will correct in your time frame for investing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;c. Investor characteristics&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Is it possible for two investors to find the same market mistake, with the same underlying rationale for the mispricing, and have different degrees of conviction in following through? Absolutely, and while part of the reason is differing time horizons, there are other investor-specific forces that also come into play:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Intelligence and educational background:&lt;/u&gt; This may be a generalization, and if you disagree, you should take exception, but the smarter an investor is, and the more exceptional his or her educational background (the right schools, credentials and certification), the greater the conviction that investor is likely to bring to investments. One reason is that it becomes easier to attribute perceived market mistakes to the lack of intelligence of other market participants than it is to take a closer look at real reasons why they may not be mistakes in the first place.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Personality&lt;/u&gt;: Like conviction, self confidence falls on a spectrum with wide differences across human beings. Some investors measure low on the self confidence scale, and look to others for big decisions. Others measure higher&amp;nbsp; on the self-confidence scale and are willing to make decisions with incomplete information and in the face of uncertainty and disagreement. Still others have so much self confidence and so little self doubt that they risk having convictions that are out of sync with reality.&amp;nbsp; Over five decades of research in behavioral finance has highlighted overconfidence as one of the key drivers of irrational investor behavior, and underscored the reality that not only does this trait vary widely among individuals, but also that the most overconfident players often rise to the top of the investment and corporate world. In the conviction discussion, overconfidence enters the game early and is perhaps the best explainer of why some investors, looking at what they think is a market mistake, feel so much more convinced that they are right than other investors looking at exactly the same mistake.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Track record&lt;/u&gt;: When you invest, you receive almost instantaneous and continuous feedback on whether your investments are paying off, and while investment success is always preferable to failure, it is undeniable that some of the worst investment lessons are learned from that success. Much as Wall Street likes its adages of &quot;not mistaking dumb luck for skill&quot;, investors are quick to forget them when an investment bet that they make pays off, especially when their success leads to iconic and admiring profiles (&quot;the next Buffett&quot;) and investor capital pouring in.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;You will notice that I don&#39;t list age as an additional characteristic, but that is because I don&#39;t equate aging with wisdom or temperance. It is true that aging usually muddies your investment track record, and that there is no better bound on over confidence than losing lots of money on what you thought was a sure bet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Consequences of Conviction&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;At this point in the post, I don&#39;t blame you for wondering why conviction is such a big deal, since buying Palantir or SpaceX with low conviction counts just as much buying shares in these companies with high conviction. Conviction matters in investing because it affects two choices that investors make - the sizing of positions (with more conviction leading to larger positions in the same investment) and the use of financial leverage (with more conviction often translating into a willingness to borrow more money to fund the investment).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Concentration&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; One of the fundamental questions in investing, and one that evokes strong disagreement, is&lt;i&gt; how much, if at all, investors should spread their bets&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;The debate is an old one and there are many views that fall between two extremes. At one end is the advice that you get from a believer in efficient markets: be maximally diversified, across asset classes, and within each asset class, across as many assets you can hold. The proverbial “market portfolio” includes every traded asset in the market, held in proportion to its market value. At the other is the “go all in” investor, who believes that if you find a significantly undervalued company, you should put all or most of your money in that company, rather than dilute your upside potential by spreading your bets. The discussion of investment conviction ties into the answer to this question.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhSWDqg8oZ4uFZX-a7-jHvCw8RcfMxjpT0n_TJ6nRIxqnmkWU3D6a1PY02b5EZnk2AjDUac05bAQs5P4kEPO0FxuMPcvsQW5MJ_3pOzvQaYVBgyrT2xLMPgYKuCZQ-gFKjGokDrRsJ-V-pgnh0qQye2GtzAbofR18_8NXNkEdjU7Cx9INgGCcLY8yS0kMc/s2072/Diversification&amp;amp;Conviction.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;772&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2072&quot; height=&quot;149&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhSWDqg8oZ4uFZX-a7-jHvCw8RcfMxjpT0n_TJ6nRIxqnmkWU3D6a1PY02b5EZnk2AjDUac05bAQs5P4kEPO0FxuMPcvsQW5MJ_3pOzvQaYVBgyrT2xLMPgYKuCZQ-gFKjGokDrRsJ-V-pgnh0qQye2GtzAbofR18_8NXNkEdjU7Cx9INgGCcLY8yS0kMc/w400-h149/Diversification&amp;amp;Conviction.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I am not an absolutist on this front, because what you do as an investor should reflect your circumstances.&amp;nbsp; At one limit, &lt;i&gt;if you are certain about your assessment of value for an asset and that the market price will adjust to that value&lt;/i&gt; within your time horizon, you should put all of your money in that investment.&amp;nbsp; This may seem like an impossible dream, but it it is what you hope to pull off if you find mispricing in the bond or derivatives markets (true arbitrage), where you can lock in the mispricing, with a guaranteed price correction at maturity (of the bond or options).&amp;nbsp; At the other limit, if you have doubts aplenty and no conviction in your investment choices, you should be as diversified as you can get, given transactions costs. If you have no transactions costs, you should own a little piece of everything, a very real choice in a world of index funds and ETFs. After all, you gain nothing by holding back on diversification and your portfolio will be deliver less return per unit of risk taken. If you are active investor who is constantly in this position (of having no conviction), it is best to retire the &quot;active&quot; part of your investment profile and go all in on index funds.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; For most active investors then, the question of how much to diversify will depend in large part on how strong or weak their investment conviction is, and that, in turn, depends on what investments these investors are focused upon. In this context, I would argue that the right amount of conviction and by extension concentration (or diversification) will depend upon the types of companies you invest in (with more diversification needed when you invest in younger companies) and your time horizon (with concentration increasing with time horizon)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Leverage&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Financial leverage is an instrument that investors can use to enhance returns, but its use in investing has always been controversial. While borrowing money to fund an investment will increase upside, if you are right, it will also magnify downside, and in some cases, precipitate collapse, if you are wrong. In the early year of investing, financial leverage generally took the form of borrowing money to buy riskier investments (stocks), but the wave of default and distress triggered for investors by the great depression led to restrictions on the use of margin in stock markets. However, those restrictions varied across investor groups (with individuals facing more restrictions than institutions) and across asset classes (with more leverage in real estate than in stocks). The growth of derivatives markets opened the door to bypassing these borrowing restrictions, since buying a (naked) call option is equivalent to borrowing the underlying asset with debt, with leverage increasing with how out of the money the call option is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Since leverage magnifies both upside and downside, it stands to reason that investors with more conviction in their investment, i.e., that it is under priced and that correction is imminent or very likely to happen, will borrow more money than investors with less conviction:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqdXwVVa6h6StdD1QvzKSULnSd569zby37sVuovoCzv96bnAmj4Skehz61YUZGrhPm7xWbvneE3U0mqvXdMvSEl3YRQvSkDVbTAcfRN_WWgJdQ4InJn0Rn1ohySosvN9z7BN4IZeGWNYOrZiS11Tq_Tz2aUQ_21OPlvu7-J45po66x8USXIvfln9dCM9o/s1060/Leverage&amp;amp;conviction.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;432&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1060&quot; height=&quot;163&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqdXwVVa6h6StdD1QvzKSULnSd569zby37sVuovoCzv96bnAmj4Skehz61YUZGrhPm7xWbvneE3U0mqvXdMvSEl3YRQvSkDVbTAcfRN_WWgJdQ4InJn0Rn1ohySosvN9z7BN4IZeGWNYOrZiS11Tq_Tz2aUQ_21OPlvu7-J45po66x8USXIvfln9dCM9o/w400-h163/Leverage&amp;amp;conviction.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;When you are certain that an investment will pay off, you can use maximal leverage, and in true arbitrage, this leverage can be used to convert small mispricing into pure profits. In fact, when options and futures are mispriced relative to their underlying assets, you can borrow 100% of your investment needs, and since the pricing error will disappear at maturity, make a pure profit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In sum, financial leverage magnifies your core investment judgments. If they are good, leverage will make them look better over time, and if they are bad, they will make them worse. That said, there is a component to the use of leverage that needs to be brought into the picture. Even if you are a good investor, with solid conviction in your investment ideas, using debt to turbocharge your returns can sometimes shrink your time horizon by forcing you to liquidate your mispriced investments before the market corrects its mistakes. That truncation risk eliminates the possibility that you can come back from your losses, and perhaps even have your investment thesis vindicated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;A Corporate Life Cycle Perspective on Conviction, Concentration and Leverage&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I use the corporate life cycle construct in almost every aspect of finance, because it not only helps understand corporate and investor behavior, but also provides perspective on why one size (or proposal) does not fit all. The corporate life cycle maps out a firm&#39;s evolution from a start-up to a growth company to maturity and eventual decline, and traces out changes in revenues, earnings and risk over the aging process:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxB2oLGlOKjnoow5WclePKdx0p0xFvbK7tonXlbja688UG-5RbYC6Wrx4eo3BtwFE1Eqk1vl7bmtHPnGWZ5JFuZIX1uujZkyQbeH4678VKzGGQQLJIK0-SQUZxCdLirfKMO3m02l9LSZyM3TsZn9JQNJy0oSgACrD93aGpt3MDkomTN7FSIKaAbWROUGM/s793/LifeCycleConviction.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;793&quot; data-original-width=&quot;698&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxB2oLGlOKjnoow5WclePKdx0p0xFvbK7tonXlbja688UG-5RbYC6Wrx4eo3BtwFE1Eqk1vl7bmtHPnGWZ5JFuZIX1uujZkyQbeH4678VKzGGQQLJIK0-SQUZxCdLirfKMO3m02l9LSZyM3TsZn9JQNJy0oSgACrD93aGpt3MDkomTN7FSIKaAbWROUGM/w353-h400/LifeCycleConviction.jpg&quot; width=&quot;353&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is no deep intellectual insight here, but &lt;i&gt;as companies age, the challenges that investors face in pricing them shifts&lt;/i&gt;. With young firms, where there is little history, the business model is still in flux and the value lies almost entirely in the future, the pricing will be less precise than for more mature firms, where there is an established business model and more financial history, and more of the value comes from investments already made. For declining firms, where liquidation looms as a viable option, the pricing exercise becomes one of estimating liquidation value, i.e., what others will pay for the individual assets owned by the firm. The higher pricing uncertainty that investors face when valuing younger companies is accompanied by a second problem, which is that pricing mistakes, if they exist, need catalysts for market correction. Those catalysts are less frequent and decisive with younger companies, where earnings reports have little of substance to report and operating targets are diffuse, creating more open questions about whether a market mistake will be corrected, and if so, when that will happen.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Using this framework, you can see that you can be more tolerant of concentrated portfolios, with debt added on, when you invest in mature companies than you should be when investing in younger companies. By the same token, investors who find pricing mistakes in younger companies, but are daunted by the noisiness of their estimates or uncertainty about markets correcting, and thus are low on the conviction scale, can overcome their reluctance to act by spreading their bets across many such companies. As some of you may be aware, I did value SpaceX at the time of its IPO at about $100 a share, and as the price has drifted down towards that price, I may very well be faced with an underpriced stock (where the market price drops below $100). Given the uncertainty that is associated with my estimate, and you can see it &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/04/to-trillion-dollars-and-beyond-spacex.html&quot;&gt;in the simulation that I reported in my post,&lt;/a&gt; it is unlikely that I would ever have sufficient conviction to make SpaceX the biggest or only investment in my portfolio, but I stand ready to buy the stock as part of a portfolio, where it is one of many bets that I make on markets.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Lessons from Leo&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;white-space: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;white-space: pre;&quot;&gt;	&lt;/span&gt;I started this post with the story of Situational Awareness and Leo Aschenbrenner, but I spent most of it talking about investment conviction, what it is, its sources and consequences. I want to end the post by returning to Leo’s story and what we can learn from it as investors.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Lesson 1: Investment actions that are inconsistent with investment conviction risk ruin&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I have no issues with Leo&#39;s story of AI winning big in the near-term and buying the winners and selling the losers that will result. It is macro story investing, and it has worked for some in the past and failed for others, but if timed right, it can deliver significant returns.&amp;nbsp; In fact, I will concede that Leo knows far more about AI than I ever will and is using that knowledge in constructing his AI story. I also have no bone to pick with investors using financial leverage to supercharge their returns,&amp;nbsp; with low-risk investments, though I remain concerned that the (2 &amp;amp; 20) fee structure may lead them to use too much debt. My concern with Situational Awareness, as a fund, and this would have been true on June 19, even at it peak, is that combining a macro story about AI winning with maximal leverage creates a time bomb. The AI story, no matter how well told, has multiple obstacles to overcome, some related to business economics and some to politics and regulation, and is a risky bet, and it makes little sense to fund it with significant amounts of debt. I know that there are defenders who will point to the fact that the fund, even after its markdown, was up substantially from its inception date, but the fact that leverage cut the fund&#39;s life short only strengthens the case that if it had been run with less debt, it would have had a bad month in July, but lived to tell the tale and perhaps even deliver on its AI promise.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Lesson 2: Momentum is a wild card in every investment strategy, and you ignore it at your own peril.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;white-space: normal;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;white-space: pre;&quot;&gt;	&lt;/span&gt;It is a well-established finding in equity markets that momentum is one of the strongest forces moving markets and that it can overwhelm the best planned strategies of most investors. If you look at the composition of Situation Awareness portfolio through much of its rise and fall., the long positions were primarily in companies that benefit from the build-up of Ai architecture, selling their products and services to the hyper scalers and LLM companies, and the short positions were in software and other businesses that would be disrupted by the rise of AI. With both groups, Situational Awareness was taking bets that were in line with what the market was pricing in already, albeit in a more concentrated and leveraged form. While market observers were quick to link both the rise and fall of Situational Awareness to the AI story, you can make just as strong a case that much of that happened at the fund over its brief existence can be explained by momentum, with leverage acting as a super charger; continued momentum generated the outsized return though June 19, and the market reversal in July caused the correction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Lesson 3: Humble money beats smart money&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The legend of smart money persists in markets, where investors who are smarter than the rest of us, with access to information and capital that others do not possess, deliver supersize returns for themselves and those that they invite into their inner circle. That legend serves everyone&#39;s interests, since the smart money uses its reputation to attract more capital and the not-so-smart money has someone else (hedge funds, insiders, activists) to blame for investment setbacks. While many money managers aspire to be part of the smart money group, most never make it into that rarefied circle, and those that do often have to pay their dues over long periods. Leo Aschenbrenner, in contrast, broke into the group in just a few months, perhaps helped by his pedigree as an AI insider and with an assist from his post on the coming AI revolution. The problem with smart money is that&amp;nbsp; its self-regard makes its susceptible to attributing more precision to its own convictions, than merited by the circumstances, and that, in turn,&amp;nbsp; results in over reach (portfolios that are much too concentrated or levered). Situational Awareness clearly overused leverage, and while some will attribute that to the youth and inexperience of its lead manager, it is worth remembering Long Term Capital Management, where John Merriweather, after a long and distinguished trading tenure at Salomon Brothers, aided by two Nobel Prize winners in economics, brought the fund to its knees by borrowing too much on risky trades.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In a post from years ago, I drew a contrast between smart money and humble money, with the former including investors who attribute every basis point of excess return earned to their investing brilliance, and the latter open about the fact that their performance, no matter how stellar, has as much to do with being in the right place at the right time (being lucky) as it has to do with skill. Investors looking for someone to manage their money are likely to do much better with the latter than the former.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I hope that you don&#39;t view this as a hit piece on Leo or AI, since that was not my intent. In fact, I hope that Leo persists and perhaps even comes back as a fund manager, since&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;he strikes me as an original thinker who is willing to take a stand, both scarce qualities among active fund managers.&amp;nbsp; I also hope that he has learned some lessons, especially on humility and restraint, for his next go around, and that he adopts a fee structure that gives his investors a chance of beating the market in the long term.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/dNEWqinHrW8?si=Z4_EuzXtfKY4myvR&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links to the Leo Aschenbrenner story&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://situational-awareness.ai&quot;&gt;Situational Awareness: The Decade Ahead (Leo&#39;s post on AI)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;T&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/the-24-year-old-ai-wiz-who-counts-jane-street-as-an-investor-1c30d751&quot;&gt;he 24-year old AI Wiz who counts Jane Street as an investor &lt;/a&gt;(The Wall Street Journal in early June, prior to blow-up)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/31/business/situational-awareness-leopold-aschenbrenner.html&quot;&gt;Inside the Meltdown of a Wunderkind&#39;s AI Hedge Fund (New York Times)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.wsj.com/finance/leopold-aschenbrenner-situational-awareness-ai-fund-597633d3&quot;&gt;His Wedding Guests were arriving - Just as his $45 billion fund was falling apart&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(The Wall Street Journal)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/what-does-the-humbling-of-leopold-aschenbrenner-mean-for-the-ai-bubble&quot;&gt;What does the humbling of Leopold Aschenbrenner mean for the AI bubble?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(The NewYorker)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2916056897589773791/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/2916056897589773791' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2916056897589773791'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2916056897589773791'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/08/the-situational-awareness-blow-up.html' title='The Situational Awareness Blow-up: The Collateral Damage from Investing Conviction!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXo8uQZJpMDXttFVJ7tuZK7HLO1sArfu_qD4B0PO5HeVhmRYlnIa8FL1W9iuQTKm_N3Rp2GOBotuMvHwyylHH1mSUqLTIB9ycF7v6BDVzP0VJOiZLzxKSh22in1VER47eWa4uHjQxQbMQCdxaQdtFgytsm0ihkbLYUY4woP8hrMHvE9a5-qSiaVofJF14/s72-w400-h163-c/SATheRise.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3748150483161975935</id><published>2026-07-29T18:06:44.537-04:00</published><updated>2026-07-29T19:33:36.316-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Earnings Reports"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Information"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="The Fed"/><title type='text'>Information Timing and Release: The Gaming of Guidance!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I am a lapsed academic, insofar as I have not submitted a paper for publication in more than two decades, but to acquire academic status, I did have to earn a PhD in the distant past. My &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-financial-and-quantitative-analysis/article/abs/economic-events-information-structure-and-the-returngenerating-process/2A12033049B0499A64C6D7FD32F95339&quot;&gt;doctoral dissertation&lt;/a&gt;, which like most doctoral theses is little noted and long forgotten, was completed in 1984 and focused on how the frequency of and delays in the release of information plays out in stock price volatility, skew and jumps. I don&#39;t plan to rehash that paper, but there have been two long running news stories that reminded me of it. The first is a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sec.gov/rules-regulations/2026/05/s7-2026-15&quot;&gt;proposal being floated by the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC)&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;to replace quarterly reporting of financial statements by companies with semi-annual reporting. The second is the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/29/fed-kevin-warsh-markets.html&quot;&gt;opinion voiced by Kevin Warsh,&lt;/a&gt; the new Fed Chair, that the Fed should provide less guidance&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;to financial markets on future decisions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The two stories may seem unconnected, but they have two common features. First, both actions (removing quarterly reporting requirements and reducing/eliminating Fed guidance), if carried through, will remove &quot;news&quot; that markets have become used to receiving and using to calibrate prices.&amp;nbsp; Second, the arguments for and against each of these proposals have parallels. The advocates for removing quarterly reports argue that they &lt;i&gt;feed into market myopia and increase short-termism in markets&lt;/i&gt;, and the supporters of less Fed guidance believe that this &lt;i&gt;guidance creates gaming among traders and investors, increasing focus on the FOMC actions at the expense of fundamentals&lt;/i&gt;. The pushback against both proposals comes from those who believe that withholding quarterly reports and Fed guidance &lt;i&gt;removes information that markets use to set prices, making these prices more volatile and less informative&lt;/i&gt;. As is almost always the case with these debates, there is both truth and hyperbole on both sides, and I will try to thread the needle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Earnings Reports&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;Most investors and traders in equity markets, and especially so in the United States, have spent their investing lifetimes in an environment where companies not only release full financial statements every quarter, but do so with fan fare. As we will note in this section, that has not always been the case, even in the US, and has more recent origins, with setbacks, in many foreign markets.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The History of Earnings Reporting Periodicity&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;The Securities Exchange Act of 1934, which created the SEC, set up foundational annual reporting requirements (10-Ks) for publicly traded companies, modified in 1955 to require semi-annual reporting and in 1970, quarterly reports, within 45 days from the end of each quarter. That said, there have been forces that have induced firms to report earnings on a more frequent basis to investors well before these regulatory requirements were put in place. The first were the &lt;i&gt;stock exchanges&lt;/i&gt; that imposed their own constraints, with the &lt;i&gt;NYSE requiring most firms to report on a quarterly basis as early as 1939&lt;/i&gt;. The second was the recognition by firms that financial transparency (in the form of more frequent and more detailed financial reports) could make them more attractive to investors. As a consequence, it is estimated that in 1931, prior to either the SEC or NYSE mandating disclosure, more than 60% of publicly traded companies were already disclosing information on a quarterly basis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The shift to more frequent reporting was slower in the rest of the world and has seen more reversals. Europe, for much of the last century, has a patchwork of rules, with some countries adopting stricter disclosure laws than others. The UK imposed mandatory quarterly earnings reporting in 2007, but allowed a shift back to semi-annual reporting in 2014, and the EU also followed a similar timeline, introducing quarterly reports in 2007 and withdrawing that requirement in 2013. In 2003, Singapore started requiring quarterly reporting for firms with market capitalization exceeding S$20 million, but in 2020, shifted away to requiring it only for a subset of firms with financial and regulatory concerns. Japan started its quarterly reporting requirements in 2003 as well, but it too reversed that requirement in 2024.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;In emerging markets, there are large variations across countries. In India, publicly traded companies are required to report their financials on a quarterly basis, and the same is true for many Brazilian and Chinese companies. In Africa, Nigeria requires quarterly reporting but South Africa&amp;nbsp; has a semi-annual reporting mandate, though many companies voluntarily release quarterly financials; much of the rest of Africa has semi-annual reporting requirements.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In sum, the belief at the start of the twenty first century that the rest of the world would follow the US model of mandated quarterly reporting for publicly traded companies has not come to fruition, as many parts of the world have experimented with mandatory quarterly reporting, before abandoning it in favor of semi-annual reporting, for a variety of reasons. That said, it is worth noting that a significant percentage of firms voluntarily report their financial results on a quarterly basis, even when not mandated, albeit with different degrees of depth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Content of Earnings Reports&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;The debate about how frequently companies should report their financials misses a key detail related to what their financial reports include as content. Focusing on the US, for instance, the magnitude of quarterly earnings reports has increased over time, expanding from bare bones financial statements fin the 1970s to much larger documents that go well beyond financial statements today. In 1980, for instance, a typical quarterly earnings report contained 2000-5000 words, but by the turn of this century, those reports had tripled or quadrupled in size, and the trends continue. The graph below, for instance, looks at the growth in word count for the median quarterly and annual reports in the Russell 3000 companies between 2006 and 2020 (for quarterly) and 1994 to 2020 (for annual):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQZ1P-DVm0VeBh2m3uM3ltQsVSRvYPz4k0pKIwdMKsVRI9Q_YFdAuAxgzoRw-dMlzEwGrtQH59IDMOHXnR9iCbLBHo0KiaT0zmw7R55JCsX5U7P76SgwfBBaSgRywtU-G5YTPmUU-5frQua2U0Q8M2iDULC81B7BrpGswEq3KvY_Ht2z3yCbaDqzy3KNc/s1444/Words%20in%20Earnings%20Report%20Graph.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;436&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1444&quot; height=&quot;121&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQZ1P-DVm0VeBh2m3uM3ltQsVSRvYPz4k0pKIwdMKsVRI9Q_YFdAuAxgzoRw-dMlzEwGrtQH59IDMOHXnR9iCbLBHo0KiaT0zmw7R55JCsX5U7P76SgwfBBaSgRywtU-G5YTPmUU-5frQua2U0Q8M2iDULC81B7BrpGswEq3KvY_Ht2z3yCbaDqzy3KNc/w400-h121/Words%20in%20Earnings%20Report%20Graph.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;As you can see the number of words in both quarterly and annual reports has increased over time, and the bulking up of earnings reports can be explained by multiple factors:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Accounting rule changes&lt;/u&gt;: Accounting rule writers have been busy adding more items to the list of required disclosures for public companies in the last few decades. Some of this increased disclosure (stock-based compensation, for example) reflects a changing business world and is merited, some is in reaction to a corporate scandal and if often knee-jerk and some, in my cynical vie, reflects accounting trying to be relevant to markets again.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Macro events&lt;/u&gt;: In years of market crises, economic or political, you will see disclosures increase. In the graphs above, notice the spikes in 2008/2009 and 2020, the first in response to the 2008 banking crisis and the latter to COVID.&amp;nbsp; Superimposing the effects of globalization, where a company finds itself exposed to problems in every corner of the world, it has added to the disclosure bloat.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Legal Protection&lt;/u&gt;: One of the culprits responsible for disclosures bulk is the risk exposure section, where companies are required lay out an exhaustive (and exhausting) list of things that can go wrong in their business models. I have never found a risk disclosure useful in a valuation, as it seems to be written by lawyers with the objective of providing legal cover.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Guidance&lt;/u&gt;: In the 1980s, quarterly earnings reports were focused on reporting on operations during the quarter in question and management was not expected to, and did not provide, guidance about future quarters. That started to change in the 1990s, especially with the passage of the 1995 Safe Harbor Law and Reg FD (which prevented companies from selectively leaking information to analysts), and surged through the second half of the decade, peaking in 2003, when more than 50% of all companies providing earnings guidance. Thankfully, the process has receded, with only a fifth of all firms now providing guidance with earnings reports, but it is undeniable that there is much more forward-looking components to earnings reports than used to be the case.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The bulking up of earnings reports is part of a phenomena that I term &quot;disclosure diarrhea&quot; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2021/07/disclosure-dilemma-when-more-data-leads.html&quot;&gt;argue has undercut the usefulness of these reports&lt;/a&gt;, with more disclosure perversely making for less information.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Earnings Game&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;To make sense of the arguments for and against quarterly earnings reporting, you have to get a measure of what happens leading into and out of these reports, in the &quot;earnings game&quot;. The process starts with analysts and investors making forecasts of what the earnings report will contain, almost always including estimates of the earnings per share, but often also containing estimates of expected revenues and even operating metrics (like margins) for high profile companies. The analyst forecasts, at least from sell side analysts, become quasi public information and are often aggregated and reported as &lt;b&gt;consensus estimates&lt;/b&gt; by financial news services. &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.zacks.com/earnings/earnings-surprise-predictions/&quot;&gt;Zacks,&lt;/a&gt; for instance, is one of the services that has been doing this for decades, but that information is now widely accessible on Google and Yahoo! Finance (with the estimates for Apple on July 27, 2026, for the September 2026 earnings report, shown below):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUFBEbfVQGFeSZCdOkFowIfRuPRWOJSwgdSEvAi1v_cGq8aIrMnPX8CJDiFIBWDhX8oi2D6z-BYntmvLPjewPsLIkkCdXDeppEYfXTeXv8Djs9wvG9lbT4ID8GO9cKTIPVOZs9gjUgdFSpeskLA71TMGthBHHnEIwUdzjKYxZGuEktzqv41fHVDqfx9wQ/s1916/YahooEarningsForecasts.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1298&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1916&quot; height=&quot;271&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUFBEbfVQGFeSZCdOkFowIfRuPRWOJSwgdSEvAi1v_cGq8aIrMnPX8CJDiFIBWDhX8oi2D6z-BYntmvLPjewPsLIkkCdXDeppEYfXTeXv8Djs9wvG9lbT4ID8GO9cKTIPVOZs9gjUgdFSpeskLA71TMGthBHHnEIwUdzjKYxZGuEktzqv41fHVDqfx9wQ/w400-h271/YahooEarningsForecasts.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AAPL/analysis/&quot;&gt;Yahoo! Finance for Apple earnings forecasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;These analyst forecasts, once made, are revisited, partly in response to company-specific news stories and partly to macroeconomic developments, and &lt;b&gt;revised forecasts&lt;/b&gt; are provided, with services again tracking these revisions for trends (as you can see below for Apple, from Zack&#39;s):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifPDu9-7pAqGN4B3JOOCqltYyuKG5GcfQ4wFXnRJOHXn96xBrQ7no9zyL1LPjwqCE2XlDmA94IHgeFOfWZbZ3BVAmQ7TUsgsWPchL6I9pVY4JjBSvccyJ01bNyA_cyJDKygWbAfVI0glFPr9KELtSXr0ipwgX7x5gop06Om3unKCrZYZdRsQC-N-VyIac/s1352/EarningsRevisionsApple.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;864&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1352&quot; height=&quot;255&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifPDu9-7pAqGN4B3JOOCqltYyuKG5GcfQ4wFXnRJOHXn96xBrQ7no9zyL1LPjwqCE2XlDmA94IHgeFOfWZbZ3BVAmQ7TUsgsWPchL6I9pVY4JjBSvccyJ01bNyA_cyJDKygWbAfVI0glFPr9KELtSXr0ipwgX7x5gop06Om3unKCrZYZdRsQC-N-VyIac/w400-h255/EarningsRevisionsApple.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/2959303/apple-aapl-earnings-expected-to-grow-should-you-buy&quot;&gt;Zack&#39;s Apple earnings revisions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;As the earnings release date approaches, analysts continue to revise their estimates, and on the date of the announcement, the actual earnings per share is compared to the expected number, with higher (lower) than expected earnings labeled as positive (negative) surprises. The market price response is often consistent, with positive (negative) earnings surprises translating into increases (decreases) in stock price. The graph below, while dated, looks at stock price responses to earnings surprised classified into ten deciles (from most positive to most negative):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjV4iZ4J6FvX06bAozfQGJ_Emz1h4qnyGud1w_ZCJCJadYzBycjIhy0B0o4Rb8gZTQkFlg2vrM96cFGCCn0gKhQe9fozFEGra0AVwRVLxgis5d4bjAwp8IwK9e-R2F67za7kGjiK-Xm_dZMBLsxSEngbpGnYslKU4cMDaLEcTzNub6re1bWquobHY7Ls5s/s1346/EarningSurpriseChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1080&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1346&quot; height=&quot;321&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjV4iZ4J6FvX06bAozfQGJ_Emz1h4qnyGud1w_ZCJCJadYzBycjIhy0B0o4Rb8gZTQkFlg2vrM96cFGCCn0gKhQe9fozFEGra0AVwRVLxgis5d4bjAwp8IwK9e-R2F67za7kGjiK-Xm_dZMBLsxSEngbpGnYslKU4cMDaLEcTzNub6re1bWquobHY7Ls5s/w400-h321/EarningSurpriseChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is some evidence that the market responses to earnings reports have become more muted over time, perhaps because of public access to analyst forecasts and revisions. The link between earnings surprises and stock price changes has become the reason why analysts spend as much time as they do, forecasting earnings per share in the next quarterly report, and why traders focusing on the same metric.&amp;nbsp;There is another aspect of the market reaction to earnings surprises that becomes grist for the trading mill, and it comes from the price drifts in the days after earnings are released, with positive (negative) surprises followed by upward (downward) drifts. While the price drift is small, it may still be large enough to make a difference in active trading, where winning by inches is still winning.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As with almost everything else that is market-related, there are no easy wins in this game, and as more and more people play the earnings forecasting game, new wrinkles have emerged. First, companies have learned to use the flexibility embedded in accounting rules to find ways to beat analyst estimates, with tech companies, in particular, standing out. That earnings gaming plays out as a disproportionately large number of positive earnings surprises (at least among the S&amp;amp;P 500 companies, broken down by sector), as is clear from earnings surprises at the&amp;nbsp; S&amp;amp;P 500 companies in the second quarter of 2026:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhE4N0DuWUYapNYUEraJmKXaIZZKEQeI5FBrrAgpywAPMfn-TLIFk_yd6kGTj514UhqI106ej-GzUnMyGGmgetDTjJOqyl1Ja0IQozXgKQ0MV3OG4e6DlM3_Neguy0u948TFeShvsPlqCrfeMcVCFZsVl_swsHmwFQ2mCGhM3r8aBXeSBL668cYXeZ2Ph8/s1858/EarningsSurprisebySector.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1074&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1858&quot; height=&quot;231&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhE4N0DuWUYapNYUEraJmKXaIZZKEQeI5FBrrAgpywAPMfn-TLIFk_yd6kGTj514UhqI106ej-GzUnMyGGmgetDTjJOqyl1Ja0IQozXgKQ0MV3OG4e6DlM3_Neguy0u948TFeShvsPlqCrfeMcVCFZsVl_swsHmwFQ2mCGhM3r8aBXeSBL668cYXeZ2Ph8/w400-h231/EarningsSurprisebySector.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://advantage.factset.com/hubfs/Website/Resources%20Section/Research%20Desk/Earnings%20Insight/EarningsInsight_072426.pdf&quot;&gt;Source: Factset&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Second, as companies routinely beat analyst estimates, markets readjust, creating the phenomenon of &lt;i&gt;whispered earnings&lt;/i&gt;, where investors build in the expectation that a company that has historically delivered earnings that are 5% or 10% above estimates will continue to do so, and a lesser number is a negative surprise. In the graph below, I look at the market price reaction to earnings surprises in the second quarter of 2026:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbQV1-DHjmL1vl089OX6hWKWR6lwDqkyJH1yOOh2jeH9GjgeXrX_kGjjKZ4tNkJFSos0jKd_Z5TKHCIfUmRxJLoPNS6ZmvCbg41bHM7YJccNSMmqXPIwVbRlpK4jHcms7OjhCUSduaDspMeWo9DJFGjYtJcFke4nEGXHpLqXvsmCMgh7ydz4MEyc8Fd-I/s1908/PriceReactinotoSurprise.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1222&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1908&quot; height=&quot;205&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgbQV1-DHjmL1vl089OX6hWKWR6lwDqkyJH1yOOh2jeH9GjgeXrX_kGjjKZ4tNkJFSos0jKd_Z5TKHCIfUmRxJLoPNS6ZmvCbg41bHM7YJccNSMmqXPIwVbRlpK4jHcms7OjhCUSduaDspMeWo9DJFGjYtJcFke4nEGXHpLqXvsmCMgh7ydz4MEyc8Fd-I/s320/PriceReactinotoSurprise.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://advantage.factset.com/hubfs/Website/Resources%20Section/Research%20Desk/Earnings%20Insight/EarningsInsight_072426.pdf&quot;&gt;Source: Factset&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As you can see, the linkage between earnings surprises and price reaction is weak, with a significant subset of positive surprises resulting in price drops.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Bottom Line&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Much of the debate about whether the US should shift away from quarterly to semi-annual reports can be boiled down to what you think about the time and energy investors and companies spend playing the earnings game, and where that time and energy will be spent in the absence of quarterly reports. Those who are advocates for less frequent reporting are of the view that the earnings game, focused as it is on next quarter&#39;s earnings estimates and whether the company can beat them, contributes to short-termism and distracts from fundamentals. Those who are pushing for preserving the status quo (of quarterly reporting) believe that removing quarterly reports will just shift the game, perhaps more intensively, into the semi-annual reports and that there is value to long term investors from having quarterly reports, gaming notwithstanding.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There is another issue that comes up in the context of quarterly reporting, and what would happen if these reports did not exist. Legal strictures notwithstanding, insiders (from within and outside the firm) trade and make money on material information that they have access to, but the public does not. Removing quarterly reporting will create more of an opening for insiders to make money at the expense of public market investors, and while inside trading may contribute to making prices more informative, it also adds to the sense that financial markets are an unfair game.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I am an investor, and I&amp;nbsp; think that there is a compromise solution that draws on both sides of this argument. I like quarterly reporting for two reasons.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is information in those reports that allows me to update my company valuations, though for many companies, the marginal impact of a quarterly report on value is small.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While I have no interest in playing the earnings game, the price corrections that happen around earnings reports serve two purposes. &lt;i&gt;For companies that I have a position in&lt;/i&gt;, they can operate as catalysts, bringing down (up) the stock price of over valued (under valued) companies. At the same time, almost all of the information that I find useful in an earnings reports is in the financial statements and footnotes, not in the lengthy discussions of risk exposure or in the management guidance, and I would welcome an elimination of these sections and a slimming down of these reports.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;Note that none of my arguments for preserving quarterly reporting are about short-termism, and that is intentional. First, I am not sure what short-termism even means, since the cynical answer seems to be that any market movement away from your preferred price direction is short term, and any movement in your favor is indicative of market wisdom. Second, I believe that most market participants, and this is true across time and markets, trade to make money in the near term, and that there is nothing that regulators or rule writers can do to alter this dynamic. In fact, the magic of markets is that millions of trades motivated by opportunism and the short term can still yield a price that is long term and rational. Finally, it remains true that if we were all long-term investors who traded only when the fundamentals drove us to do so, markets would be less liquid and transactions costs would increase; short term traders provide a market service and supply liquidity that we all (including long term investors) benefit from.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I hope that the SEC preserves the current quarterly reporting requirement, while scaling back the volume of disclosure, but if it decides otherwise, it will not materially change much of what I do. I will miss the quarterly updates more with younger, higher-growth firms, where the operating metrics (revenues, margins etc.) can change quickly over short periods, but it is my guess that many of these firms will voluntarily continue the quarterly reporting tradition.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fed Guidance on Rates&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;For most investors who started investing after 2008, the Fed, in particular, and central banks, in general, have loomed large in the investing process. Many investors attribute the low interest rates after 2008 almost entirely to Fed actions, and by extension, blame the Fed for the higher rates since 2022. I have long argued that not only is this perception incorrect, but that it is unhealthy for investors to view the Fed as either savior or villain.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;A Short (and Personal) History of the Fed&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I started in equity markets in the 1980s, when Paul Volcker as the chair of the Fed played a central role in getting inflation back into check. I might have been ignorant, but I did not know the names of any of the members of the Federal Open Market Committee and had no idea when they met. Changes in the fed funds rate, the only rate effectively controlled by the FOMC, would percolate their way into markets, but I don&#39;t remember them being central to equity market movements.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Volcker was followed by Alan Greenspan, and while he acquired rockstar status (at least&amp;nbsp; among investors) in the late 1990s, his views on rates were superseded by his views on equity investors (and their irrational exuberance). The FOMC met eight times per year during that period, and you can access the meeting minutes and actions on the Fed website &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomc_historical_year.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, but it stayed away from explicit guidance about future rate changes, choosing to send subtle hints instead.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The sea change in Fed behavior and centrality occurred with the 2008 market crisis, when the Fed first introduced explicit guidance noting that rates would stay low &quot;for some time&quot;, and it has largely continued that practice through the stewardships of Bernanke (2006-2014), Yellen (2014-2020) and Powell (2020-2026). Along the way, its place in markets has changed, as both bond and equity investors have become focused on the Fed as the arbiter of interest rates and director of the economy.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Fed&#39;s Powers (and Powerlessness)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To understand the extent and limits of the Fed&#39;s capacity to guide rates and the economy, it is useful to begin with an understanding of what it does. Through its twelve districts that span the United States, the Fed collects information on almost every aspect of the economy, from price pressures building on consumers and producers to the pace of economic growth. While there are other government agencies that also track these statistics, it is undeniable that the Fed has a big picture view and access to more data than any other government agency. The Federal Open Market Committee, composed of all of the members of the board of governors and representatives of the district presidents, sets Fed policy on open market operations (where the Fed buys and sells US government securities), the size of the Fed&#39;s balance sheet and the Fed Funds rate (an overnight rate at which banks can borrow and lend their reserves). In addition to the FOMC providing policy direction on inflation and the economy, the Fed chair testifies to Congress every six months, facing and answering questions from legislators.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As the key interest rate set by the Fed, &lt;i&gt;the Fed Funds rate&lt;/i&gt; often acquires an outsized role and there are good reasons to pay attention to it. First, it &lt;i&gt;operates as a signal &lt;/i&gt;of what the Fed is seeing in the data it has collected on the economy, with an increase (decrease) in rates indicating that it sees higher (lower) inflation and an overheated (slowing) economy. Second, &lt;i&gt;there are interest rates that are directly tied to the Fed Funds rate&lt;/i&gt;, where changes percolate down to businesses and customers; the prime rate and some credit card and CD rates move with the Fed Funds rate. That said, I believe that Fed&#39;s capacity to affect interest rates is far more limited than most believe, for two reasons. First, while there is positive correlation between Fed Funds rates and short-term market-set rates (like the US treasury bill rate), there is as much evidence (if not more) that the latter lead the former, rather than the other way around. Put simply, Fed funds rates tend to be increased (cut) after short term treasury rates have gone up (down), suggesting that the Fed is mimicking the market. Second, the relationship between Fed Funds rates and long-term market-set rates, which drive asset valuation and affect borrowers more, is even weaker. To back these contentions, I chart the effective fund funds rate, the three-month US treasury bill rate and the 10-year treasury note rate on a monthly basis from January 1962 to June 2026:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_uLw21K7gcwMIQJsJZwpdLkQlaRM6l1VBsLw9EK7iKIOOOQSWkKmIn99HKm7ZKW_hhv0i8hNnapN0Jwz0c8Bl876hD3DJ2C1eC8nOPKgMxwiQ6lHWejhIDBSrXlJATR7TVPhglFus7M4hizDMyQ0LvCPqfAOsgtww35QmLmSkUQRNOZGdAy8ghpHmZVg/s1390/Fed%20and%20Rates%20Chart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1156&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1390&quot; height=&quot;333&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_uLw21K7gcwMIQJsJZwpdLkQlaRM6l1VBsLw9EK7iKIOOOQSWkKmIn99HKm7ZKW_hhv0i8hNnapN0Jwz0c8Bl876hD3DJ2C1eC8nOPKgMxwiQ6lHWejhIDBSrXlJATR7TVPhglFus7M4hizDMyQ0LvCPqfAOsgtww35QmLmSkUQRNOZGdAy8ghpHmZVg/w400-h333/Fed%20and%20Rates%20Chart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhA1JLxTKGME1vUaOFNojVd_DUjVQTqe_n_o6jNeb3lO_9Glk3t8mVXpaWta3p2b1jLLQbeWCgM2GlvCqKGMykAySSdfUapB0pYHKUf0QtsM71cyDCXE--A-9PknnwdYrzi2N03JvG-0dUgLGTBNBmi9yLrZWDOyFaNtutxXNN_6XZBgjj4-ZB8fn-EWgA&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img alt=&quot;&quot; data-original-height=&quot;172&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1320&quot; height=&quot;42&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhA1JLxTKGME1vUaOFNojVd_DUjVQTqe_n_o6jNeb3lO_9Glk3t8mVXpaWta3p2b1jLLQbeWCgM2GlvCqKGMykAySSdfUapB0pYHKUf0QtsM71cyDCXE--A-9PknnwdYrzi2N03JvG-0dUgLGTBNBmi9yLrZWDOyFaNtutxXNN_6XZBgjj4-ZB8fn-EWgA&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/fedfundsintrates26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;At the bottom of the graph, I have a table where I look at the data on a quarterly basis, and break it down into three groups - quarters where the fed funds rate decreased, quarters where it increased and quarters where it stayed unchanged. With both fed funds rate increases and decreases, &lt;i&gt;you can see that the link with short term rates is stronger&lt;/i&gt;, and with both short term and long term rates, &lt;i&gt;the bulk of the change in rates happens prior to or in the quarter that the Fed Funds rate changed&lt;/i&gt;, but there is only a mild spill over into the quarter after, with three month rates, and almost no spillover, with long term rates. Put simply, baed on this history, it looks like changes in fed funds rate are less signals of future movements in interest rates and more reflectors of changes that have already happened.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The Fed&#39;s weaknesses in setting interest rates also plays out in its capacity to alter the trajectory of the real economy. While there are clearly periods that you can point to where Fed actions have had a material impact on he economy, with the Fed Fund rate was hiked to 20% under Paul Volcker in 1981, and triggering a deep recession, being a prime example, the link between Fed Fund rates and economic growth remains tenuous. In the graph below, I look at the changes in Fed Funds rates and real GDP growth in the quarter leading into, the quarter of and the quarter after the change:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNNSQxROcpuATe982ugydAC5hFsLV39tHGqhHKyjAoolVP5ubBrQVXcWVsZ8juwOGwtGhJ3O3j0o5_hm0SJgZ0bW4qH-TGQK14vdXj8xQLj0ydtLS8WcGnpipp4oSyNHQ3ml7NY34pBs5h2JhGjd_XHFOap1lHxalK_dzv7CJOabMUlCCshAMRQ0aW2Bw/s1706/Fed%20and%20Growth%20Chart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1470&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1706&quot; height=&quot;345&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNNSQxROcpuATe982ugydAC5hFsLV39tHGqhHKyjAoolVP5ubBrQVXcWVsZ8juwOGwtGhJ3O3j0o5_hm0SJgZ0bW4qH-TGQK14vdXj8xQLj0ydtLS8WcGnpipp4oSyNHQ3ml7NY34pBs5h2JhGjd_XHFOap1lHxalK_dzv7CJOabMUlCCshAMRQ0aW2Bw/w400-h345/Fed%20and%20Growth%20Chart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/fedfundsrealGDP26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download data (FRED)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Again, there is little backing for conventional wisdom, which is that fed tightening (by raising the Fed funds rate) leads to drops in real growth (or even recessions) and that fed loosening (by lowering the Fed funds rate) is a signal of higher economic growth in the future. In fact, the more general conclusion that one can draw from the data is that the fed effect on the real economy has been more &quot;meh&quot; than &quot;wow&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The gap between investor perception on what the Fed can control on interest rates and the economy and its actual powers is not just wide, but potentially dangerous. From a policy perspective, it can lead to perverse actions, where central banks are pressured to lower the rates they control (like the Fed Funds rate) in the face of high inflation, leading to even higher inflation in the future. From an investor and business perspective, the focus on what the Fed is doing or will do can take attention away from the fundamentals, especially inflation, that ultimately drive both interest rates and growth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFR4c6bFaIpdstCq88Cg4oV_4sceCeHVdQKgZG6JBy5c1CoWou-1nCZoHMSczgOUfWsloVjligtl4pcz6jhyphenhyphenhTNFpMW8gKB75jTQlhKmKETgX5H7WUSIN3TNnOeo65hTvE3h5SFo2HUML8VjjZ5boPh-LjluMAvNiIgpYIigm5BKvHmXIS6ktqwlKS3nw/s1892/IntrinsicvsactualChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1692&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1892&quot; height=&quot;358&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFR4c6bFaIpdstCq88Cg4oV_4sceCeHVdQKgZG6JBy5c1CoWou-1nCZoHMSczgOUfWsloVjligtl4pcz6jhyphenhyphenhTNFpMW8gKB75jTQlhKmKETgX5H7WUSIN3TNnOeo65hTvE3h5SFo2HUML8VjjZ5boPh-LjluMAvNiIgpYIigm5BKvHmXIS6ktqwlKS3nw/w400-h358/IntrinsicvsactualChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IntrinsicRiskfree2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, much of the variation in long term interest rates (with the ten-year US treasury rate standing in as proxy) can be explained by movements in inflation and real economic growth over time, not Fed action or inaction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Warsh Doctrine?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;All Fed chairs have had to wrestle with the problem of being perceived as all-powerful, when their true powers are limited, but Kevin Warsh is perhaps more exposed than any of his predecessors. The market fixation with the Fed is now deeply embedded in market, and there are politicians on both sides of the aisle who seem to think that Warsh can bring rates (mortgage, treasury) down to 2% or lower, if he so desires, when the truth is that with inflation expectations running at 2.5-3%, there is no chance of that happening.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The pathway out of this problem will be long and there will be pushback, but the end game should be a world where you see and hear from the Fed less, not more. I do believe that the decision to reduce or withhold guidance is a good first step, and it has to be followed by more open humility from the Fed (and from Warsh) about the limits of its powers and honesty about how frequently it follows markets, rather than leads them. In the context of today&#39;s (July 29, 2026) decision by the FOMC to leave rates unchanged, for instance, the subtext is that while inflation is running hotter than desired (3% or more, as opposed to the targeted number of 2%), much of that inflation is being driven by a war and its effect on oil prices&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There will be some who feel that markets will be lost without Fed guidance, but I don&#39;t think so. After all, financial markets set interest rates and stock prices before the guidance era, and did a pretty good job. In fact, I think that the surge in guidance from the Fed has led many in markets to abdicate their responsibility for paying heed to fundamentals and gauging what interest rates should be.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If there is a takeaway from this post, it should be that there is nothing inherently good about having more disclosure. In fact, there is a tipping point, where information overload can cause investors to behave in perverse ways. Thus, I am less of an absolutist about the quarterly versus semi-annual reporting debate than some, though my view is that rather than reduce the frequency of reporting, the SEC should be looking at slimming down reports, by replacing one-size-fits-all disclosure requirements with targeted disclosures and keeping the focus on reporting what has happened rather than prognosticate about the future.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;With the Federal Reserve too, I think less is more is a better strategy - less guidance from the Fed about what it will do in the future, less opining from FOMC members about interest rates and the economy and less attention to FOMC meetings and the smoke signals that emerge from these meetings. Markets will step in to fill the vacuum, and that is good not just for investors but for the Fed, since its decisions are informed by those market judgments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/0pTXwulvxzA?si=gP3eqJxUTGFrR8rC&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/fedfundsintrates26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Fed Funds Rates and US Treasury rates, by month (1962-2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/fedfundsrealGDP26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Fed Funds Rates and Real GDP growth, by quarter (1962-2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IntrinsicRiskfree2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Intrinsic risk free rates and 10-year Treasuries (1954-2025)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/3748150483161975935/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/3748150483161975935' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3748150483161975935'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3748150483161975935'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/07/information-timing-and-release-gaming.html' title='Information Timing and Release: The Gaming of Guidance!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQZ1P-DVm0VeBh2m3uM3ltQsVSRvYPz4k0pKIwdMKsVRI9Q_YFdAuAxgzoRw-dMlzEwGrtQH59IDMOHXnR9iCbLBHo0KiaT0zmw7R55JCsX5U7P76SgwfBBaSgRywtU-G5YTPmUU-5frQua2U0Q8M2iDULC81B7BrpGswEq3KvY_Ht2z3yCbaDqzy3KNc/s72-w400-h121-c/Words%20in%20Earnings%20Report%20Graph.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2756975432137707890</id><published>2026-07-15T17:40:14.095-04:00</published><updated>2026-07-15T17:43:20.241-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Country Risk"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Currencies"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Equity Risk Premiums"/><title type='text'>Country Risk: Drivers, Measures and Investment Implications - The 2026 Edition!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I am a creature of habit in my personal and professional life, and in the context of the content that I post online, there is a ritual that I follow with my data updates. I start the year with my &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar//New_Home_Page/data.html&quot;&gt;general data update online&lt;/a&gt;, and follow up with a &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;series of posts &lt;/a&gt;where I examine the implications of this data for investing and corporate finance. &amp;nbsp;Since 2008, I have also done annual update papers on equity risk premiums in March of each year, with &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6361419&quot;&gt;the link to the 2026 update here&lt;/a&gt;, and country risk in July of each year, where I look at the topics in more details, trying as best as I can to integrate the data, research and my own thinking. This year&#39;s country risk update paper is &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=7107638&quot;&gt;now available,&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and as in prior years, I will spend this post looking what causes risk to vary across countries, how to measure those risk variations and the implications for businesses and investors.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Country Risk: Relevance&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;In my years as a business school student, country risk was given short shrift and I don&#39;t remember spending much time talking or thinking about it. Part of the reason was that business school education&amp;nbsp; was dollar-centric and built on the presumption that most graduates would go to work in New York, London or Tokyo, and have little need to confront country risk on a day-to-day basis. For those who raised country risk as an issue, the response was that you could, as a company or investor with global exposure, diversify it away. Both presumptions were wrong even then, and have become even more flawed over time as we have sold both companies and investors on the benefits of globalization.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; For businesses, the exposure to country risk comes from both the revenue side, as larger portions of every company&#39;s revenues come from foreign markets, and the cost side, as production gets outsourced to locales overseas. That exposure tends to increase as companies scale up, and is higher in some sectors than others; technology companies, for instance, get far more of their revenues from other non-domestic markets than manufacturing or service businesses. Outside of utilities (power, water), it is rare for a company to be entirely domestic-focused on both its revenue and cost sides.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For investors, the initial draw of investing in foreign markets might have been diversification but the greater pull has come from greed, i.e., the belief that you can higher returns in the rest of the world. That process was accelerated by the creation of investment vehicles (index and mutual funds) that made investing overseas easier, the lowering of transactions costs across markets and a greater standardization of financial statements and disclosure across the globe. The home bias in portfolios, i.e., the skewing of portfolios towards domestic market investments, has not disappeared but it is lower than it was at the turn of the last century.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The notion that country risk is diversifiable, i.e., that if you are operating or investing across the world, the risks will average out across countries, has been undercut by the increased correlation across global equity markets, and especially so during market crises (which is when you care the most).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;At the risk of being hyperbolic, there is no place to hide from country risk, for either businesses or investors, and ignoring or dismissing country risk is not an option. I discovered this truth in the 1990s, when I found myself in need of a mechanism to incorporate country risk into my corporate financial analysis and valuations, and the process that you see described in this post was born from that need. I would hasten to add that the process that I describe has very little intellectual firepower behind it, puts pragmatism ahead of theory and most importantly is a work-in-process.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Country Risk: Drivers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I don&#39;t think that there would be much disagreement, if I assert that it is riskier to invest in some parts of the world than others, but there is likely to be plenty of disagreement on why there are risk differences and which parts of the world are riskiest. In the broadest sense, I argue that variation in business risk across countries can be traced to four factors - the &lt;i&gt;political structure&lt;/i&gt; of the country (democracy vs authoritarian), the &lt;i&gt;prevalence of corruption &lt;/i&gt;in the country (operating as a hidden tax and distorting business outcomes), the &lt;i&gt;extent of violence &lt;/i&gt;in the country (from internal and external forces) and the &lt;i&gt;strength of the legal system&lt;/i&gt; in enforcing property rights and contractual obligations.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; On the political risk front, I looked at the &lt;b&gt;EIU&#39;s Democracy Index,&lt;/b&gt; a composite score measuring both political freedom and protections of civil liberties, with the caveat that any index that tries to measure these will make subjective judgements that not everyone will agree with. In&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.eiu.com/n/global-themes/democracy-index/&quot;&gt; their most recent update&lt;/a&gt;, here is what the EIU scores looked like around the world:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWoMYOKyXiKe911V2PImU__a7RAG751CMZRIDJvzPlsTg1bc9MNlkkePmsdO4dBb1nmY1l_rcSjlN976MUQc6Ih9WUp2326cjxLnzwe-b-o6cIvDWePOhSSJiEfM-9_azHVm7MXq_n9u6B7-uEzJvk3DK3XxaI8q2LOOxqZEb7ANBst3Gx9dIn5yLmB_M/s2262/DemocracyPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2078&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2262&quot; height=&quot;368&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWoMYOKyXiKe911V2PImU__a7RAG751CMZRIDJvzPlsTg1bc9MNlkkePmsdO4dBb1nmY1l_rcSjlN976MUQc6Ih9WUp2326cjxLnzwe-b-o6cIvDWePOhSSJiEfM-9_azHVm7MXq_n9u6B7-uEzJvk3DK3XxaI8q2LOOxqZEb7ANBst3Gx9dIn5yLmB_M/w400-h368/DemocracyPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: Economist&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;Low (High) score: Least (Most) freedom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Based on these scores, the tilt towards authoritarianism has increased over the last decade, with only 7.3% of the world&#39;s population living in democracies at the end of 2025. Note, though, that there is still an open question of whether businesses and economies do better under democratic than authoritarian regimes, and the answer in the research is at best a &quot;maybe&quot;.&amp;nbsp; From a risk perspective, democratic regimes create more continuous risk for businesses, with elections bringing regulatory and rule changes to economies, than authoritarian regimes, where governments can promise more continuity in policy, but when change does come to the latter, it is more likely to be large and wrenching.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Corruption is a fact of life in much of the world, and businesses often have no choice but to pay the price to survive and grow. &lt;b&gt;Transparency International,&lt;/b&gt; a global coalition against corruption, tries to capture the extent of corruption, comes up with c&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.transparency.org/en/what-we-do&quot;&gt;orruption scores for countries&lt;/a&gt;, with lower scores indicating less corruption, and the most recent edition contains the following:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYXYWOD6-nJdJZoFEFF5lOSFgVwdnVnixOzBqaQmV5PGMje7KE7rEJpMNYPKn2ZgaIgW5QDaKMERV85mQ-JDNaFkL0LmLqtNV9m9OgMJJiRBfhWJc4cs1OmqvVfW6T__AJaJeP0WpkLZMWHH3I48m3322j4xb_T7O8VX2Ho4YDk2sKIRpF4b7LOKU6xZQ/s5368/CorruptionPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;5368&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5096&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYXYWOD6-nJdJZoFEFF5lOSFgVwdnVnixOzBqaQmV5PGMje7KE7rEJpMNYPKn2ZgaIgW5QDaKMERV85mQ-JDNaFkL0LmLqtNV9m9OgMJJiRBfhWJc4cs1OmqvVfW6T__AJaJeP0WpkLZMWHH3I48m3322j4xb_T7O8VX2Ho4YDk2sKIRpF4b7LOKU6xZQ/w380-h400/CorruptionPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;380&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: Transparency International&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Low (High) score: Most (Least) corruption&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;Northern Europe has the lowest corruption scores, followed by Canada, United States and Australia, but large portions of Africa have high exposure to corruption, with Latin America and much of Asia falling in the middle.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Living in the midst of violence takes a toll, and that toll is extracted from businesses that try to operate in its presence. &lt;b&gt;Vision of Humanity&lt;/b&gt; computes &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.visionofhumanity.org&quot;&gt;peace scores for countries&lt;/a&gt;, measuring exposure to both violence within the country as well as from wars and terrorism. The most recent peace scores are reported below:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjjHT1SlI6YisYWE1zvSgOmZS4K_vFU7QUSPSK_2XKfBmXmyN8qvZtyECCchXvt90dKMGb77620zRnrXTB7gWftGplIXiEm6IVR2N7nLFS5QEDikpDibRKaCOxBmGshSZE6VcMrVZsxqJQe6Zax-1Jy-ctzE5S9kU-a1Y-QYJM5y3fEZfT9fcsEpXasgDQ/s5272/PeacePicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;5272&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5156&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjjHT1SlI6YisYWE1zvSgOmZS4K_vFU7QUSPSK_2XKfBmXmyN8qvZtyECCchXvt90dKMGb77620zRnrXTB7gWftGplIXiEm6IVR2N7nLFS5QEDikpDibRKaCOxBmGshSZE6VcMrVZsxqJQe6Zax-1Jy-ctzE5S9kU-a1Y-QYJM5y3fEZfT9fcsEpXasgDQ/w391-h400/PeacePicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;391&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: Vision of Humanity&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Low (High) score: Most (Least) peaceful&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Canada, Australia, Japan and much of Europe score high on the peace dimension, and while Latin America and Africa score lower, there are portions of each continent that are more peaceful. The Russia-Ukraine war has created a huge area of violence across Eastern Europe and Russia, and exposure to gun violence creates a drag on the United States.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Businesses are dependent on the legal system&amp;nbsp; to enforce property rights as well as contractual obligations. Countries that have legal systems that are either capricious on these fronts, or hopelessly slow in acting, create challenges for businesses that operate in them, creating both costs and risks that they otherwise would not face. Property Rights Alliance is an entity that tracks &lt;a href=&quot;https://internationalpropertyrightsindex.org&quot;&gt;international property rights across the world&lt;/a&gt;, and in their most recent update, their property rights scores by country are captured below:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8-0EeH9N0PlChsphC3PG6Wrb8kkMqTNDqLqumY6uoArS42cmx4oK7D687sdiOi8hvUe-iPdxi-ae8PlC-FUKS25TeqHJ2Stvy3Ia3RLVABM2zeE5pXl7sjKDhmafGIX17R-q4C4FxzzOl8AIeaR307D0qtk9TgZLEyO76G-yTJn3Kwa4XbxDkvvbPDJE/s2264/IPRIPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2090&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2264&quot; height=&quot;369&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8-0EeH9N0PlChsphC3PG6Wrb8kkMqTNDqLqumY6uoArS42cmx4oK7D687sdiOi8hvUe-iPdxi-ae8PlC-FUKS25TeqHJ2Stvy3Ia3RLVABM2zeE5pXl7sjKDhmafGIX17R-q4C4FxzzOl8AIeaR307D0qtk9TgZLEyO76G-yTJn3Kwa4XbxDkvvbPDJE/w400-h369/IPRIPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: International Property Rights&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Low (High) score: Least (Most) property rights&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;There are wide differences across regions, when it comes to legal and property rights, with Latin America, Africa and Asia lagging and Europe, Australia and much of North America leading.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There is one final dimension that I have added to country risk in recent years that captures exposure to climate risk. While there are many different entities that measure this exposure, each one with its own skews, the map below which shows the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.germanwatch.org/en&quot;&gt;climate risk exposure, by country&lt;/a&gt;, from GermanWatch:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEig2XoORryuKy6bs09vkWVirseTupzB2KL3YrnENsN6OzrbU8pEppxQEktULUihC28O0hgt-XmChuI5flDRYr0QzYpHPqxOhDm6sgSj6Qd-et4DLHTvtUkgFzmkbvlEA42l9f2Wxo_LFJtdi8pn08zemD0pEkQj0P7H8gDZCUIPVgeXfebaOARnu5cemPQ/s2276/Climate%20Risk%20Heatmap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1226&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2276&quot; height=&quot;215&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEig2XoORryuKy6bs09vkWVirseTupzB2KL3YrnENsN6OzrbU8pEppxQEktULUihC28O0hgt-XmChuI5flDRYr0QzYpHPqxOhDm6sgSj6Qd-et4DLHTvtUkgFzmkbvlEA42l9f2Wxo_LFJtdi8pn08zemD0pEkQj0P7H8gDZCUIPVgeXfebaOARnu5cemPQ/w400-h215/Climate%20Risk%20Heatmap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: GermanWatch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Low (High) score: Least (Most) affected&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There are two reasons why climate risk has not become a bigger topic in country risk discussions. The first is that there is no part of the globe that is unaffected, making it less of a differentiator across countries on the risk dimension. The second is that climate risk, by itself, is an abstraction for businesses, until it starts affecting the bottom line, and while there are individual companies that are being impacted, the aggregate effects, at least at the moment, are not big enough to change the discussion.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Country Default Risk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;While country risk is determined by multiple factors, the challenge that businesses is&amp;nbsp; in consolidating all of those risks into one number. The market that does this most directly is the debt market, where, when countries (sovereigns) seek to borrow money, lenders determine the interest rates to charge them, based upon perceived default risk. To understand why lenders worry about default with sovereign debt, you can start by looking at the history of sovereign defaults in the graph below:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhlBColmUyvCa3qxC6GVgQslxHCX0fCsIgBiwVFFgG2USDArB4IuGbzy7e52PVHxS_n-7LLSPWv2fWjbQfqJF9TNfCX9FhWnn5VRHffTZ2pVbClG8TZS1J14sSIkubAFZNTPo2XfxigGrfhRODHd0PZU6cxPzVlqGjgV1DUR-ClJ_4MY-90-v32J566WQc/s1502/FCLCDefaultHistory.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1076&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1502&quot; height=&quot;286&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhlBColmUyvCa3qxC6GVgQslxHCX0fCsIgBiwVFFgG2USDArB4IuGbzy7e52PVHxS_n-7LLSPWv2fWjbQfqJF9TNfCX9FhWnn5VRHffTZ2pVbClG8TZS1J14sSIkubAFZNTPo2XfxigGrfhRODHd0PZU6cxPzVlqGjgV1DUR-ClJ_4MY-90-v32J566WQc/w400-h286/FCLCDefaultHistory.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: BoC &amp;amp; BoE Sovereign Default Database&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Debt defaults, which soared in the 1980s and 1990s, have been lower in this century, with a shift away from loan defaults (where banks are usually the lenders) to defaults in the bond market. It is also worth noting that a &lt;i&gt;non-trivial portion of sovereign defaults in each year are local currency defaults&lt;/i&gt;, indicating that for some borrowers, the costs of defaulting are viewed as smaller than the costs of inflation arising from printing more currency to pay off debt. Over time, Latin America has been the epicenter for sovereign default, but at the end of 2023, sovereign debt in default had a wide geographical spread:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFA3DMjBYJUf0bj19Y_14z_bB4PRk3pifwWLosT4b57ukZaqPLGK7_6FfrBTG15M9acsqFYwpCYlzpAbmGcri-gwjMZn8JbV4RcDpl_S-UJ52ol3DYZ0rRPr3v5M0INY7UdxIbT7rCtfmRij4V9x-fAH1duOwYvv3rduWSlZejAOa1FsGUFekix9_zGAI/s1832/sovrdebtindefault2023.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;914&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1832&quot; height=&quot;200&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFA3DMjBYJUf0bj19Y_14z_bB4PRk3pifwWLosT4b57ukZaqPLGK7_6FfrBTG15M9acsqFYwpCYlzpAbmGcri-gwjMZn8JbV4RcDpl_S-UJ52ol3DYZ0rRPr3v5M0INY7UdxIbT7rCtfmRij4V9x-fAH1duOwYvv3rduWSlZejAOa1FsGUFekix9_zGAI/w400-h200/sovrdebtindefault2023.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small; font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Source: BoC &amp;amp; BoE Sovereign Default Database&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The most widely accessible measures of sovereign default risk remain &lt;b&gt;sovereign ratings,&lt;/b&gt; with ratings agencies operating as (imperfect) arbiters. At the start of July 2026, the graph below reports the sovereign ratings for all rated countries, from S&amp;amp;P, Moody&#39;s and Fitch:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggSfdVf9nkGsCAx01sk42yDoAB8c7YI9svWlBuywgf9Hj3qasAmikVlO-veqjUA1tw998Vx7lO4lYKmM1F_zRIp1_lvM_kruZdf4wArcPRLCcrf1sdHslU2xF43qh9tiIQSIlezY3ONvoBURmDDezchvcw3e8bUyDMiUg6KYeg1Yw-VnzII6XtdfRT9RI/s2312/SovrRatingPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2312&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2264&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggSfdVf9nkGsCAx01sk42yDoAB8c7YI9svWlBuywgf9Hj3qasAmikVlO-veqjUA1tw998Vx7lO4lYKmM1F_zRIp1_lvM_kruZdf4wArcPRLCcrf1sdHslU2xF43qh9tiIQSIlezY3ONvoBURmDDezchvcw3e8bUyDMiUg6KYeg1Yw-VnzII6XtdfRT9RI/w391-h400/SovrRatingPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;391&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: Multiple public sources&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, the ratings agencies mostly agree on their assessments of default risk, and sovereign ratings are correlated with the risk drivers (politics, corruption, violence, legal system) that we outlined in the last section. I do believe that ratings agencies, notwithstanding the critiques of bias and mis-measurement leveled against them, do a reasonably good job in their ratings assessments, but they are often slow to act, when confronted with change.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The sovereign CDS market offers a market-based alternative for measuring sovereign default risk, with investors making assessments of how much they would demand to insure against sovereign default in the form of (annualized) spreads. In the graph below, I list 10-year sovereign CDS spreads as of July 1, 2026:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7jyThyphenhyphenY0ijhmqQUApxdtNxC8sxhHFshCtjUprmXpqmVCet13Y3RjlzyfG_V4sRrl3tPjKVYqT-CU9R9261vtDpFm5nnwxP00kfKXQB3sQit4riZYJYGUXOYwL64uXijDESge6lvj663lV-Lig3Ww7mW0V3hUzmySoqThF_Yr_IiAk2W2eMSgKeN6fXMQ/s5040/SovrCDSPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;4714&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5040&quot; height=&quot;374&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7jyThyphenhyphenY0ijhmqQUApxdtNxC8sxhHFshCtjUprmXpqmVCet13Y3RjlzyfG_V4sRrl3tPjKVYqT-CU9R9261vtDpFm5nnwxP00kfKXQB3sQit4riZYJYGUXOYwL64uXijDESge6lvj663lV-Lig3Ww7mW0V3hUzmySoqThF_Yr_IiAk2W2eMSgKeN6fXMQ/w400-h374/SovrCDSPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: Bloomberg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that sovereign CDS spreads are available for only 84 countries, and that there are swaths of the world (Central and North Africa, frontier markets) where they are not available.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Country Composite Risk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;When you lend money to governments or buy government bonds, sovereign default risk is your key concern, and both sovereign ratings and CDS spreads try to measure that risk. When running a business in a country, you are exposed to a much wider range of risks, and measuring exposure to those risks may require different measures. One alternative is &lt;b&gt;country risk scores&lt;/b&gt;, where services evaluate how&amp;nbsp; countries measure up on different risk drivers, and come up with composite scores for these countries. In the table below, I report the country risk scores from two services - &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.prsgroup.com&quot;&gt;Political Risk Services (PRS) &lt;/a&gt;and the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.eiu.com/n/solutions/risk-ratings-review/&quot;&gt;Economist (EIU)&lt;/a&gt;, at the start of July 2026:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgK7qSsMGYhxGzJPjoRRoPRTFn6ZUGh-mO9Kegj0gmVG67pMVYyqPEyvJkCL2Yk65BDxsNEqi5jk5WVuv7OxLDoI3HWWVzky3z6JJSLJ_QQGpiRWchCmNHhqw61xgW7-820O33w8IJgnY2TtlIht5HV3L7AlVGHMim5fq92hzuMvf-ZfbOGwziEUSVfkp8/s2306/Political%20Risk%20Scores.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;914&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2306&quot; height=&quot;159&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgK7qSsMGYhxGzJPjoRRoPRTFn6ZUGh-mO9Kegj0gmVG67pMVYyqPEyvJkCL2Yk65BDxsNEqi5jk5WVuv7OxLDoI3HWWVzky3z6JJSLJ_QQGpiRWchCmNHhqw61xgW7-820O33w8IJgnY2TtlIht5HV3L7AlVGHMim5fq92hzuMvf-ZfbOGwziEUSVfkp8/w400-h159/Political%20Risk%20Scores.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Sources: EIU (Economist) and PRS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The table illustrates three problems that you face with political risk scores. The first is that the scoring is idiosyncratic, with the Economist going from low scores for the safest countries to high scores for the riskiest, and PRS doing the reverse. The second is that each service picks different factors to consider, and different weightings, leading to scoring divergences that sometimes confound; PRS, for instance, ranks the United States as riskier than Ghana, on a composite risk basis. The third is that the scores, by themselves, are difficult to convert into inputs in financial analysis, either in cash flow or discount rate adjustment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;It is to combat the third problem that I started estimating country equity risk premiums, and while the details of the process and the data that I use have changed over the last three decades, the basic structure has remained unchanged. I start with an estimate of the &lt;b&gt;equity risk premium for a mature market&lt;/b&gt;, and build a &lt;b&gt;country risk premium, if needed, for riskier countries&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Until 2025, I estimated the mature market premium by computing an implied equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500, and using that as the base, arguing that the US, as a Aaa rated country (at least according to Moody&#39;s), represented a mature market. The Moody&#39;s downgrade for the US, from Aaa to Aa1, has thrown a wrench into that approach, requiring adaptation. In response, I now start with an estimate of the implied ERP for the S&amp;amp;P 500, but then adjust that estimate for the default spread (based on the Aa1 rating) for the US, with the resulting values at the start of July 2026 below:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgkeH4SnDdj4TetiNBjmmY6ohf-LRqAdrKgzvsYDQl1BamBGqGVNc0upu4gXDZU_GzpA7BSeIqCnWqvIVwPW3MUmAygMyCOpnEHk0HYg6iAxO-383ma_hxebGM-d5Fdu-h4RyDVWhp0nNaJDfAeMcFP1GgtA-i-UXCMuvYGviGxz5CBZ7CZz-ubYGh_8Z8/s1566/ImplERPJuly2022.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;968&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1566&quot; height=&quot;248&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgkeH4SnDdj4TetiNBjmmY6ohf-LRqAdrKgzvsYDQl1BamBGqGVNc0upu4gXDZU_GzpA7BSeIqCnWqvIVwPW3MUmAygMyCOpnEHk0HYg6iAxO-383ma_hxebGM-d5Fdu-h4RyDVWhp0nNaJDfAeMcFP1GgtA-i-UXCMuvYGviGxz5CBZ7CZz-ubYGh_8Z8/w400-h248/ImplERPJuly2022.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;Spreadsheet: https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJuly26.xlsx&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Spreadsheet: https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJuly26.xlsx&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, with the S&amp;amp;P 500 at 7499.36 on July 1, 2026, the implied equity risk premium for the United States is 4.42%, and netting out the default spread of 0.22% for the Aa1 rating yields a mature market premium of 4.20%.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To estimate country risk premiums, I &lt;i&gt;start with the sovereign ratings&lt;/i&gt; for rated countries and convert those ratings into default spreads. To adjust for the higher risk associated with equities, relative to government bonds, I estimate a &lt;i&gt;composite measure of that relative risk&lt;/i&gt;, by scaling the volatility in an emerging market equity index to the volatility in a emerging market government bond ETF, and scale the default risk up with this relative risk measure (1.55 in July 2026) to get country risk premiums:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj10kIHiWwWqkVAZcqSFBZvEeJ203BsSRR9y41ZEgCwSZY3DOCdD6ZJsFHA5bwS92bvNCDYGQUXio-GPHU9ROPNS-86aMXD-f6MqhTlZu07y75KFbJmI6Sas888Ut9M5KNXXmhE543WSQ5TLjnT4fv82xEF6py7qkOOotoX06YWOi2tT6ASkDNofEEFMDs/s1494/ERPCompPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;998&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1494&quot; height=&quot;268&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj10kIHiWwWqkVAZcqSFBZvEeJ203BsSRR9y41ZEgCwSZY3DOCdD6ZJsFHA5bwS92bvNCDYGQUXio-GPHU9ROPNS-86aMXD-f6MqhTlZu07y75KFbJmI6Sas888Ut9M5KNXXmhE543WSQ5TLjnT4fv82xEF6py7qkOOotoX06YWOi2tT6ASkDNofEEFMDs/w400-h268/ERPCompPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;For the two dozen countries that have no sovereign ratings, I adopt an even more makeshift approach, where I used political risk scores for these countries, and then looked for rated countries with similar scores. The table below has equity and country risk premiums, by country, for all of the countries that I evaluated in July 2026:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKpm4Rs4YyVEYheFDKy-BaZLLa2DW29X9jjn_uRxeYX7dIRmec6bFNZGDc6bT11rvggF0rutNUixaE2-gjShA2rWhno79eFmXAZGmFzlRDZaeBiGjDJPKiAIhyphenhyphenvVmi1ndCwCpxBgYzAMTIXFC11R0b8ZdrvUGFO9l7ZxeHXEfmAMsZQlZovCJOpKdhCSc/s2624/CoungtryERPTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1186&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2624&quot; height=&quot;217&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKpm4Rs4YyVEYheFDKy-BaZLLa2DW29X9jjn_uRxeYX7dIRmec6bFNZGDc6bT11rvggF0rutNUixaE2-gjShA2rWhno79eFmXAZGmFzlRDZaeBiGjDJPKiAIhyphenhyphenvVmi1ndCwCpxBgYzAMTIXFC11R0b8ZdrvUGFO9l7ZxeHXEfmAMsZQlZovCJOpKdhCSc/w480-h217/CoungtryERPTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;480&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/ctrypremJuly26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I did post an earlier version of this table a couple of weeks ago, but the numbers that I reported reflected in incomplete update of sovereign default spreads, and this table (and the data on my webpage) now reflect the corrected (and lower) spreads. &lt;i&gt;(As a solo act, I am deeply grateful for the checking that those who use my data do, and thankful when they point out mistakes that I have made.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Company Exposure to Country Risk&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;If you buy into my argument that every company has a narrative, and it is the narrative that drives its value, it is worth considering where country risk fits into that narrative. The answer, I believe, comes from looking at where the country in question falls in the life cycle:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhWplAgDRnhyMnGVdhZwzrxd0hcEuwoMCAAbhanen740DJNpIZChjU9RO5J8ex4R63-xNhuPnMec0fEAiC1Zt0dJYlFQUcQleefmWiKCnYtukX1FafrcTfunhgsEPoKzzsuXz258CQIBSaMtEHlJm5gbvW5KkOZWbuIRE8AluWm_Ie8XOwS8U0J9estAWQ/s1504/Country%20life%20cycle%20&amp;amp;%20Company.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1104&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1504&quot; height=&quot;294&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhWplAgDRnhyMnGVdhZwzrxd0hcEuwoMCAAbhanen740DJNpIZChjU9RO5J8ex4R63-xNhuPnMec0fEAiC1Zt0dJYlFQUcQleefmWiKCnYtukX1FafrcTfunhgsEPoKzzsuXz258CQIBSaMtEHlJm5gbvW5KkOZWbuIRE8AluWm_Ie8XOwS8U0J9estAWQ/w400-h294/Country%20life%20cycle%20&amp;amp;%20Company.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The message from this life cycle view is a sobering one, especially for those analyzing companies that operate in very risky countries, since the narratives for these companies implicitly or explicitly incorporate a country risk component. You cannot value a Venezuelan company without taking a strong view about Venezuela, or even an Indian and Brazilian company without an India or Brazil country story underpinning value. In contrast, you may be able to value US and European companies, without explicitly considering the evolution of country risk in those parts of the world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; When looking at an individual company, I believe that country risk exposure comes less from where the company is incorporated and more from where it operates. It is undeniable that companies around the world have substantial exposure outside their domestic markets, and that exposure has increased over time. In the graph below, I look at the revenue breakdown of companies in four indices - the S&amp;amp;P 500 (US), the FTSE 100 (UK), the Nikkei 225 (Japan) and the Sensex (India):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhnwNulKDtfvOv83ucSXTIQbiqGV-_vKyy2l-lZizeQu95a72I1FWIgKup-PuVJLikppPIpBRf39LYkUKWyy3iEN2v9Ho68K8JqqRDGr9axGZsmuXotqYgBVmss1PDCIjyOQDn7Xt0JZi_1EdjL4-wUyJPW9TeCCu2MvkYdUCGAajTgD6VOvbjvKoBVya4/s1434/GlobalRevPieChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;866&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1434&quot; height=&quot;241&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhnwNulKDtfvOv83ucSXTIQbiqGV-_vKyy2l-lZizeQu95a72I1FWIgKup-PuVJLikppPIpBRf39LYkUKWyy3iEN2v9Ho68K8JqqRDGr9axGZsmuXotqYgBVmss1PDCIjyOQDn7Xt0JZi_1EdjL4-wUyJPW9TeCCu2MvkYdUCGAajTgD6VOvbjvKoBVya4/w400-h241/GlobalRevPieChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In every single index, companies that comprise that index get a significant portion of their revenues from outside the domestic market. Looking across sectors, exposure to foreign markets varies widely with technology companies often generating more than half of their revenues outside their domestic settings. I believe that equity risk premiums for companies should reflect exposure to foreign markets, though it is worth debating how best to weight that exposure - revenues work well for consumer product and service companies, production works better for natural resource companies and a mix of revenues and production may be the right choice for manufacturing companies:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhO17wiW41lEomfGaW4_OKxIzYSRCPi6sv30_Q2RWyqiAIixHpG7gDEItYrG4SrX2feJcg2qLH6tUHm6JeAm0VGiahA2pC1x84eNh5wlp3ShgfE1g9TJX_PaRns3h9FbTHkwSQKCLJLexabgwvyWaUhNE8p0SV-JmGZH7D6TcXty1tAgIobf3PwsOU_j4/s1494/CompanyRiskExposure.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;958&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1494&quot; height=&quot;205&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhO17wiW41lEomfGaW4_OKxIzYSRCPi6sv30_Q2RWyqiAIixHpG7gDEItYrG4SrX2feJcg2qLH6tUHm6JeAm0VGiahA2pC1x84eNh5wlp3ShgfE1g9TJX_PaRns3h9FbTHkwSQKCLJLexabgwvyWaUhNE8p0SV-JmGZH7D6TcXty1tAgIobf3PwsOU_j4/s320/CompanyRiskExposure.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With this framework, you can see why almost all analysts will confront country risk, sooner or later, no matter where they operate in the world and which companies they analyze.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; For companies, country risk will also come into play when faced with capital budgeting decisions, where they need estimates of hurdle rates for individual projects, to decide where to invest.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For a multinational operating in many businesses, the project cost of equity will have to then also reflect the business the project is in, in addition to country risk. Thus, the cost of equity for a Siemens Appliances for a project in India should reflect the beta for the appliance business, in addition to the country risk for India. In contrast, a Siemens power tool project in Hungary should be computed using the beta for an power tools project and the country risk for Hungary. It is also possible that country risk is not easy to isolate, if the production facilities are in one country but revenues are generated in another. If the Siemens appliance factory in India will be producing products that will be sold in Japan, should we be showing the country risk of India or Japan in the cost of equity calculation? The answer, as was the case in the earlier section on valuation, is that it depends on where the company sees risk coming from. If the risk is that production will be delayed or disrupted by political and economic risk in India, it is Indian country risk that should be looked at, but if the primary concern is that revenues in Japan will be volatile because of economic conditions there, it is Japanese country risk that matters more. If both risks are considerations, you should use a weighted average of Indian and Japanese country risk.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Currency Questions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;For some of you, it may seem odd that I have spent almost an entire post talking about country risk without bringing up currencies. The reason is simple. Currencies are measurement mechanisms, and while they may be affected by the same political and economic factors that drive country risk, they don&#39;t determine country risk and in my view, should not command risk premiums, on their own.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It is true that hurdle rates are affected by both the equity risk premiums that you estimate and the riskfree rate that you use, and that riskfree rates vary across currencies. In the figure below, I estimate riskfree rates in about 40 currencies, where a local-currency government bond rate is present, and I adjust that government bond rate for the default risk of the government in question:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8hPixb6sjNbEoD69DnvDboyOUBhXbFBktC-IYL_paAfgl4QAzqiszSDnnR0ReXslXoGBk1HhdVvXZs08nAIkmSUCoqmHzjTsIxv72CG1fDJdZPoulq3hCLtVTeXjHTTn9vGjcCi6tlQs5I3uZDDN8SC705KLc9RQ3vRZkbVMK4OGFOHria_blFDslz-Y/s1276/CurrencyRiskfreeJuly2026.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;934&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1276&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8hPixb6sjNbEoD69DnvDboyOUBhXbFBktC-IYL_paAfgl4QAzqiszSDnnR0ReXslXoGBk1HhdVvXZs08nAIkmSUCoqmHzjTsIxv72CG1fDJdZPoulq3hCLtVTeXjHTTn9vGjcCi6tlQs5I3uZDDN8SC705KLc9RQ3vRZkbVMK4OGFOHria_blFDslz-Y/w400-h293/CurrencyRiskfreeJuly2026.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;When estimating the cost of equity for a Turkish project or company in Turkish lira, we start with a riskfree rate in excess of 20% and build on it, by adding equity risk premiums to it, but the cost of equity for the same project or company in Euros will begin with a riskfree rate close to 3% (the German Euro bond rate) and arrive at a much lower number. While this may sound farfetched, the value that you derive for the project or company should be the same using either currency, if you are consistent about estimating your cash flows in the same currency:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiR0WyD2N89Gzfd4B9FpcXjvu2uOhuqaTV6u73pZPXR3gvGIsu3pvzCK0DnsoZG8nqWeRCNjlcymaa-T72Iz57gDeF4KpfbA5GvPTkg6wu6MuXrnMjkn3a8F206B3-eLWTmW_QtPKYSCE82a1O4TrAKaq2elF8TBaPlggdbQicWRHmrvI3VMivPTrvySx8/s1530/CurrencyConsistency.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;502&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1530&quot; height=&quot;105&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiR0WyD2N89Gzfd4B9FpcXjvu2uOhuqaTV6u73pZPXR3gvGIsu3pvzCK0DnsoZG8nqWeRCNjlcymaa-T72Iz57gDeF4KpfbA5GvPTkg6wu6MuXrnMjkn3a8F206B3-eLWTmW_QtPKYSCE82a1O4TrAKaq2elF8TBaPlggdbQicWRHmrvI3VMivPTrvySx8/s320/CurrencyConsistency.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Since much or almost all of the differences in riskfree rates come from inflation differentials, matching the high Turkish lira discount rate with a high growth in cashflows in Turkish lira, and the low Euro discount rate with the low growth in cashflows estimated in Euros will yield results that are consistent.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you do want to estimate riskfree rates in currencies where there is either no local currency government bond that is traded or where you mistrust the government bond rate, because of light trading or government intervention, the fact that riskfree rate differences across currencies can be tied to differential inflation can be used for estimation; the riskfree rate in any currency can be computed from a base currency (dollar or Euro) riskfree rate and the difference in expected inflation between the local and base currencies:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhoBdwhMEW7fvqSDh3FJiOiSDr5AA8hXW0RW2edfqheIEs-IoaMUO06RyCOlT_I4pko5tXGlHgp9SwA9JEJ8_treV0fnETpppfCz0-XVwsapGfzRrICYDMUcBnziHx-_YYZN7vc-oLjy0SI07wBke6M53UiDF17_8J86XeZyTACra-nFc0yjZsAcEB9jBg/s1378/DiffInflRiskfree.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;260&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1378&quot; height=&quot;60&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhoBdwhMEW7fvqSDh3FJiOiSDr5AA8hXW0RW2edfqheIEs-IoaMUO06RyCOlT_I4pko5tXGlHgp9SwA9JEJ8_treV0fnETpppfCz0-XVwsapGfzRrICYDMUcBnziHx-_YYZN7vc-oLjy0SI07wBke6M53UiDF17_8J86XeZyTACra-nFc0yjZsAcEB9jBg/s320/DiffInflRiskfree.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Put simply, if the expected inflation rate and riskfree rate in US dollars are 2.5% and 4% respectively, and the expected inflation rate in Brazil is 10.5%, the riskfree rate in Brazilian reais should be roughly 12%. The implication of this approach is that &lt;i&gt;currency pegs, when they do exist, will hold only if the inflation in the pegged currency matches or is close to the inflation in the index currency &lt;/i&gt;to which it is pegged. It is true that the estimates of riskfree rates will only be as good as the expected inflation rates that are embedded in the estimation, but the good news is that being wrong on expected inflation will be largely offsetting, since both your cashflows and your discount rates will be wrong in the same direction; if you underestimate expected inflation, you will underestimate (overestimate) your riskfree and hurdle rates, but you will also underestimate (overestimate) your expected growth rate in cash flows.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;One of the side effects of the rise of globalization is that there are fewer and fewer companies that are entirely local-country focused in both their revenues and production, and as a result, almost every business and investor is exposed to risk in other parts of the world.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The problem with measuring country risk is that while its consequences are economic, it has its sources in history, politics and governance structures. The measures of country risk, whether they be entity-based like sovereign ratings, or market estimates like sovereign CDS spreads, reflect this interplay.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I confess that I have made simplistic assumptions and cut corners in my attempt to estimate equity risk premiums, by country, and there will be individual countries, perhaps even your own, where you might disagree with my assessments. As I noted earlier, my estimation approach remains a work-in-progress and I am always open to suggestions on how to estimate these premiums better, but keep in mind that whatever those improvements may be, they will have to work across 180 countries.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;f20c9b111e0d-a5ba-8d04-a9fa-c1724a20&quot; id=&quot;f20c9b111e0d-a5ba-8d04-a9fa-c1724a20&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/sres2R8etKA?si=76FWWsYvzs8XN0na&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Papers on country risk and equity risk premiums&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=7107638&quot;&gt;Country Risk Premiums - The 2026 Edition (July 2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6361419&quot;&gt;Equity Risk Premiums - The 2026 Edition (March 2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/ctrypremJuly26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Equity Risk Premiums, by country - July 2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Implied Equity Risk Premiums for the S&amp;amp;P 500 (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histimpl.xlsx&quot;&gt;Annual since 1960 &lt;/a&gt;&amp;amp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPbymonth.xls&quot;&gt;Monthly since Sept 08&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/DiffInflationRiskfree26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Inflation-based riskfree rates, by currency - July 2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheet&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJuly26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Implied ERP for S&amp;amp;P 500 (July 2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2756975432137707890/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/2756975432137707890' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2756975432137707890'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2756975432137707890'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/07/country-risk-drivers-measures-and.html' title='Country Risk: Drivers, Measures and Investment Implications - The 2026 Edition!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWoMYOKyXiKe911V2PImU__a7RAG751CMZRIDJvzPlsTg1bc9MNlkkePmsdO4dBb1nmY1l_rcSjlN976MUQc6Ih9WUp2326cjxLnzwe-b-o6cIvDWePOhSSJiEfM-9_azHVm7MXq_n9u6B7-uEzJvk3DK3XxaI8q2LOOxqZEb7ANBst3Gx9dIn5yLmB_M/s72-w400-h368-c/DemocracyPicture.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-8226190618480657811</id><published>2026-06-18T18:07:23.716-04:00</published><updated>2026-06-19T10:59:29.259-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Active versus Passive Investing"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Indices"/><title type='text'>SpaceX, OpenAI and Anthropic: The S&amp;P 500 Inclusion Question and Investment Consequences!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Over the last few weeks, attention has (rightly) been focused on three potentially trillion dollar companies all lined up to go public, and much of the discussion has been about what SpaceX, Anthropic and OpenAI are worth (and will be priced at). In parallel, there has been a debate about indices and index inclusion criteria, a usually bland topic, but one that has become heated on the questions of whether these new mega-cap additions to the market should be included in the S&amp;amp;P 500. While I remain open to arguments from both sides of this debate, much of it seems to come down on the side that the index should not include these companies, with different reasons offered.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I am skeptical, since I see a combination of hidden agendas and misguided views about investing behind each of the three groups that are most vehemently against inclusions. First, you have a cadre of active investors, many of whom have been left bruised by a losing battle that they have waged over the last two decades against passive investments (index funds and ETFs), who view inclusion in the index as a fait accompli, and present this as an added risk to passive investing that can be avoided by paying these professional money managers to avoid that risk. Second, you have investing experts and academics who claim to be looking out for for retail investors and retirees, and view including these big, money-losing companies in indices as dangerous for these small investors, partly because they may not be aware of their exposure and partly because they should not be investing in these types of companies. Third, you have politicians, normally not founts of investment wisdom, speaking out about how including these large companies in government pension funds will reward billionaires, who are the villains in their storylines. In this post, I will try to step back from the heat and try to cast some light on the question of index inclusion, starting with an understanding of how indices are constructed before moving on to the roles they perform in markets and ending with a discussion of whether and how inclusion of these companies will affect the passive versus active investing debate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Index Construction - Inclusion, Weights and Returns&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Indices have been around almost as long as assets have been bought and sold in markets, but it is undeniable that the extraordinary growth of financial markets in the last few decades, across geographies and asset classes, has added rocket fuel both to the number of indices in existence as well as their visibility. But what is it that sets one index apart from another, and why do indices that purport to measure the same market sometimes move in different ways? To understand the answer to these questions, we need to deconstruct indices and see how they are put together:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Constituents&lt;/u&gt;: The first and perhaps most critical determinant of an index are its constituents, and what determines their inclusion. Take, for instance, the S&amp;amp;P 500, which Standard &amp;amp; Poor&#39;s (its creator) describes as the &quot;gauge of large-cap US equities&quot;, and is without doubt the most widely tracked and followed index in global markets.&amp;nbsp; As its name indicates, this index has five hundred of the largest market-cap companies listed and traded in the United States, with caveats on inclusion relating to listing age (listed at least a year), liquidity (measured by looking at shares that are available for investors to trade in the market, i.e., free float) and profitability (positive profits in the four quarters leading into the listing).&amp;nbsp;There are local indices that exchanges (NYSE, NASDAQ), equity markets in other geographies (the Bovespa for Brazilian stocks and the Sensex for Indian stocks) and individual sectors or industries. Across asset classes, there are indices for fixed income, as well as for real estate, fine art and crypto currencies.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Weights&lt;/u&gt;:&amp;nbsp; You can have two indices that contain the same companies that register very different results over time, depending on how these companies are weighted, with three common choices. The first is to &lt;u&gt;weight every company in an index equally,&lt;/u&gt; with the benefit being simplicity, but the cost being that to the extent that companies in an index have very different sizes, the performance on an equally weighted index will not capture aggregate market performance, because it will be skewed towards smaller companies. The second, and one used by some older indices like the Dow 30, is &lt;u&gt;price-weighting&lt;/u&gt;, where the companies with the highest price per share are weighted more than companies that have lower priced shares. I cannot think of a single redeeming quality to price weighting, since it measures very little of consequence, and suffers from breakdowns, right after stock splits. The third and most widely used mechanism for construction indices is &lt;u&gt;market capitalization&lt;/u&gt;, with tweaks sometimes added on for float (traded shares). The S&amp;amp;P 500, as I noted earlier, uses market capitalization, based on free float, to weight companies and as a consequence, Meta punches in below its true weight, since the bulk of class B shares (which are voting shares held by Zuckerberg) are not counted, as does Walmart, where some family-controlled holdings are treated as non-traded.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Index level mechanics&lt;/u&gt;: Once constructed, an index has to be measured, and to the extent that these indices are designed to capture market prices, the first step is creating a mechanism for converting market prices on the constituents to an index level. Consider, for instance, the S&amp;amp;P 500 which ended trading on June 15, 2026, at 7554.29, and relating that number to the market capitalization of the companies that make up the index. At close of trading on June 15, 2026, the cumulative float-adjusted market capitalization of the 500 companies in the index was $63,498.44 billion and the index units for the conversion can be computed as follows:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border-color: currentcolor; border-image: initial; border-style: none; border-width: medium; border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border-color: currentcolor; border-image: initial; border-style: none; border-width: medium; border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Index units = Index level / Float-adjusted market capitalization = 7554.29/ 63498.44 = 0.1190&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border-color: currentcolor; border-image: initial; border-style: none; border-width: medium; border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that there is no intuitive significance to the index units standing alone, but its movements over time can be an indicator of changes happening at companies, because of issuances and stock buybacks, as well as changes in index constituents. If asked to compute earnings or dividends on the S&amp;amp;P 500, these index units come into play again, when converting the aggregated dividends and earnings across all of the S&amp;amp;P 500 companies into index dividends and earnings. In 2025, for instance, the aggregated dollar dividends on the S&amp;amp;P 500 was $664.90 billion, and multiplying that value by the index units (0.1190) yields an index dividend of 79.12 for the year.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Price updating&lt;/u&gt;: While index levels are starting points, most investors track indices for changes in the index, with increasing stock prices translating into higher index values. Indices that track publicly traded stocks, like the S&amp;amp;P 500 and the Dow 30, should adjust instantaneously as the prices of their constituent companies change during the course of a trading day, making the index a real-time measure of market movements. Indices that capture only price changes miss the other component of returns on a stock, which is dividends, and constructing an index that incorporates dividends paid on a continuous basis does take work and requires assumptions about whether the dividends are reinvested in the index or extracted by investors. Though not as widely disseminated as the pure-price version, there is a&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5ESP500TR/&quot;&gt;variant of the S&amp;amp;P 500 that computes the total return on the index&lt;/a&gt;, with dividends included. Indices of assets that are not continuously traded, most notably real estate (like the S&amp;amp;P Case-Shiller home price index), try to overcome the absence of price data on the assets by extrapolating from the pricing of the subset of assets that get traded, leading to noisier estimates for index value and lags in price adjustment.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Index changes (inclusions and exclusions)&lt;/u&gt;: Even the best constructed indices have to confront change and have mechanisms to deal with that change that are transparent and quick to put into practice. Some of that change will come from companies being removed from public markets, either because they are acquired, taken private or because of bankruptcy. Some change will be caused by new companies being listed on the market or some will be created by changes in market cap in companies that bring them into contention for inclusion in the index, either because the market cap has risen (making them large enough to qualify for a large cap index) or has dropped, removing them from large cap status. Since you do not want abrupt changes in the index level coming just from replacing a company with a low market cap with one with a much higher market cap, the adjustment has to come from changing the index units. Thus, assume that a company goes public with a trillion dollar market cap and that it will be replacing a company with a one-billion market cap, the adjusted index units for the S&amp;amp;P 500 will be as follows:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Index units = Index level / Float-adjusted market capitalization + Market cap of added firm - Market cap of eliminated firm = 7554.29/ (63498.44+ 1000 -1) = 0.1171&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;This will then percolate through into the index earnings and dividends estimates, for the index. Note that while the index level will be unchanged by the addition of the trillion dollar company, the other components that it brings with it, including higher growth and perhaps negative earnings, will alter the fundamentals of the index going forward.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With these index mechanics in mind, it is quite clear that if S&amp;amp;P does include SpaceX, OpenAi and Anthropic in the S&amp;amp;P 500 index, the index will not change at the time of the replacement, but it will change the index fundamentally going forward, bringing in more risk, a near term hit to earnings and perhaps a long term increase in growth.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Index End Game&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;When indices were first created for markets, their primary purpose was to create composite measures of market performance, with a single number (the index value) capturing the performance of a much larger group of assets. Over time, though, the use of indices has expanded, first as proxies to assess the performance of active investors, to see whether they over or underperformed, and then as investment vehicles, with the advent and growth of index funds and ETFs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Measurement&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I started in equity markets in 1981, and at that time, indices were primarily measures of market performance. At the time, for most investors without intraday access to markets and without financial news channels, news of market performance, on most days, was a snippet on the evening news, where the anchor would mention the market&#39;s change during the day, usually using the Dow 30 as a stand in for the market. Indices continue to perform the measurement role, though our access to data has changed dramatically, with real time updates on our devices occurring all through the day. From the measurement perspective, it is worth looking back at index construction and looking for indices that best capture what you are trying to measure. The reason that the S&amp;amp;P 500 has acquired primacy is that while it includes only 500 companies in a US equity market that has almost 6000 publicly traded companies, the fact that these are the companies with the largest market capitalization means that the index represents more than 80% of the market capitalization of all US equities, and as a result, it is the single best proxy for aggregate equity market performance in the index. That said, a different framing of the measurement question can lead you to a different index choice. Thus, if you are trying to measure how the average US equity did during a period, you may be better served using an equal-weighted equity index for that measurement.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Performance Evaluation&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Investors who trust professionals to manage their money, and pay them for their services, either as up-front entry fees or in annual management expenses,&amp;nbsp; are entitled to wonder whether they are receiving a compensatory benefit, in the form of higher returns. It should not be surprising that comparing a mutual fund&#39;s returns to the returns on an index becomes a proxy for fund performance, and in the early years of performance evaluation, the S&amp;amp;P 500 became the default comparison index. Used in that context, one of the most jarring numbers in active investing is the percentage of active large cap funds that earn returns that are lower than the S&amp;amp;P 500, each year for the last two decades:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhj1wpIkZvYJjbvS4mtSPgYtHSwkNpYddw_sjmwUeibzKUyHylyb_a3ZPKnXQLf0uQg3XykhcL44md7DFvYwbPzsYwsynxetz85r_etZWOGU2pcWM4VF4EvglB6-B2kzNeXmxuR-OwZTz4oZkeh7Nf9RLwfrSbWNtZGV5q_ax7KIIdVHCVgMSNF7dh6g3c/s1784/largecapvsS&amp;amp;P500.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1298&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1784&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhj1wpIkZvYJjbvS4mtSPgYtHSwkNpYddw_sjmwUeibzKUyHylyb_a3ZPKnXQLf0uQg3XykhcL44md7DFvYwbPzsYwsynxetz85r_etZWOGU2pcWM4VF4EvglB6-B2kzNeXmxuR-OwZTz4oZkeh7Nf9RLwfrSbWNtZGV5q_ax7KIIdVHCVgMSNF7dh6g3c/w400-h291/largecapvsS&amp;amp;P500.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;S&amp;amp;P Global&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Over the last twenty five years, there have been three years where more than 50% of active funds have beaten the S&amp;amp;P 500 index, and barely so, and the extent of underperformance in the remaining years i staggering. The pushback from some active fund managers is that, given their investment styles, the S&amp;amp;P 500 is not the right index to use to judge them. Value fund managers, who invests in low-risk and high-dividend paying stock will argue that the portfolios they create are less risky than the S&amp;amp;P 500, making their lower returns more of a risk effect than underperformance. Academic studies that used risk and return models to tweak the index returns were quickly dismissed as being wrong, because the models that were used (the CAPM, the APM, Multi-factor models) were flawed. This deadlock was broken by S&amp;amp;P, when it created SPIVA, where the returns earned by fund managers in any class (small cap vs large cap, growth vs value, domestic vs foreign) are compared to returns that investors could have earned by investing in index funds in the same class, and by Morningstar, using a variant of the same approach. Thus, a fund manager who invested in small-cap, high dividend paying stocks would see his or her returns compares to the returns you would have earned on a small-cap, value index fund, making it much more difficult to explain away underperformance. There are many reasons for the slippage in active investing&#39;s share of overall investing in the last two decades, but the SPIVA results are devastating and damning for any claim of active investing superiority. Here, for instance, are the results, by investment class, on the percentage of active fund managers who underperfomed index funds in their investment style, over the last decade, at the end of 2025:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2HqwMjWnXMVTT5LW2Gx-h6krnadFIrndSANlaF4o3_85ZtklYo2Qu9iwChK72PPrFd4o-Ndps6nPnSzhENVcENmWb0hR7HSuN4uZP9Zz-H4dLqff7tCjLR3mcjuHmk4gYFbku6Pb4GcLehx7GW8M_YlC1HVRnS9UgLABCZ7nNWneccAa0JaczBB5lZ-s/s902/SPIVAbyStyle.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;614&quot; data-original-width=&quot;902&quot; height=&quot;272&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2HqwMjWnXMVTT5LW2Gx-h6krnadFIrndSANlaF4o3_85ZtklYo2Qu9iwChK72PPrFd4o-Ndps6nPnSzhENVcENmWb0hR7HSuN4uZP9Zz-H4dLqff7tCjLR3mcjuHmk4gYFbku6Pb4GcLehx7GW8M_YlC1HVRnS9UgLABCZ7nNWneccAa0JaczBB5lZ-s/w400-h272/SPIVAbyStyle.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is very little hope in these numbers, as fund managers underperform their respective indices in every single category, and by more, over longer periods. In fact, there is not a single fund group in any style that outperforms its respective index past ten years. For those of you who are reading this other geographies, and believing that it is different in your local markets, either because insiders have privileged access to information or market inefficiencies, SPIVA also tracks fund manager performance outside the United States, and reports similar results:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgONn__t9ZIUpCMCXR-t-I6bjk2KiZ-UvFHKLqmWMUB5Z8QrmRve1icNxyQikXtmZisBcRX4LpAbUqxds5Jqdkz2k98z8lHV3qfcaSF2clAenHQkQSpese49Wt_JQyadmWy4c0XLd4eKpJxz8rd-2XZKJM2NW1EUJTRG9-wRhYilTH6KnFT7bNu7bi9Wbo/s2432/SPIVAGeography.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1646&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2432&quot; height=&quot;271&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgONn__t9ZIUpCMCXR-t-I6bjk2KiZ-UvFHKLqmWMUB5Z8QrmRve1icNxyQikXtmZisBcRX4LpAbUqxds5Jqdkz2k98z8lHV3qfcaSF2clAenHQkQSpese49Wt_JQyadmWy4c0XLd4eKpJxz8rd-2XZKJM2NW1EUJTRG9-wRhYilTH6KnFT7bNu7bi9Wbo/w400-h271/SPIVAGeography.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;At this point, there is almost no counter to the argument that active investing collectively creates a drag on portfolio performance, and active investors seeking to defend the profession are left looking through the data entrails, hoping for niches where &quot;alphas&quot; exist. Thus, two decades ago, the notion that private equity investors and hedge funds were smarter than the market and could beat the market fueled a push of retirement and endowment money into these vehicles, but as they have become larger, they have come to resemble mutual funds, in terms of performance.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Investing Vehicles&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;There is a third use of indices that, in my view, has overwhelmed the measurement and performance evaluation roles that they play, and it is that they have become vehicles for investing in the form of index funds and exchange-traded funds (ETFs). That possibility was already existent in 1981, but at that time, the only index with an index fund available to most investors was the S&amp;amp;P 500. Today, you can not only invest in index funds across geographies, sectors or sub-groups based on fundamentals (including volatility, size and earnings), but the exchange traded fund explosion has given you an alternate route, with slightly higher costs (than index funds) and more liquidity.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieyett4GqpdhOoVCqSiAttnS-Up8KZoOqoBr4ciw0TqzN_uF4VfXkTtCQZsymWdUECmFvVz-6wXAkpicdOYvR-2RImqUCBvHQYISUmiQKQrKZHurHGKE6JzFB8j_a_r3PCMaBSGRhkuorfTwK46MMV9c9ri_rI57nA7afPErxsV0W3ZzaZQ5uJlzgw6d0/s1808/Index&amp;amp;ETFs%20by%20year%20chart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1302&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1808&quot; height=&quot;288&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieyett4GqpdhOoVCqSiAttnS-Up8KZoOqoBr4ciw0TqzN_uF4VfXkTtCQZsymWdUECmFvVz-6wXAkpicdOYvR-2RImqUCBvHQYISUmiQKQrKZHurHGKE6JzFB8j_a_r3PCMaBSGRhkuorfTwK46MMV9c9ri_rI57nA7afPErxsV0W3ZzaZQ5uJlzgw6d0/w400-h288/Index&amp;amp;ETFs%20by%20year%20chart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Vanguard, a pioneer when it listed the S&amp;amp;P 500 index fund in 1976, now lists more than a hundred ETFs and more than two hundred index funds, allowing investors to not only invest in almost any market, but also in the subsets (sectors, small companies etc.) that they chose to.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The size of the index fund business and the fees its creates for the index creators has created some tensions in the process, and faced with a choice between a poorly constructed index that index fund investors would love to trade on and a better constructed one that investors find less attractive, it is possible and perhaps even likely that the fund creators will pick the former.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Indexing and Passive Investing - Unintended Consequences&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There are two forces that the last section highlight that have played out in altering financial markets structurally and dramatically in the last two decades. The first is that &lt;i&gt;the underperformance of active investing has become easier to document and more visible for everyone to see&lt;/i&gt;. The second is that investors who see this underperformance &lt;i&gt;have more passive investing vehicles in the form of index funds and ETFs accessible to them, and can move their money into them&lt;/i&gt;. As a consequence, in the battle between active and passive investing for investor dollars, the fight is getting so one-sided that, if you were a referee, you would invoke the mercy rule and try to stop it:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1JX2_IQ0K6wP6vHLgDO-7hHoa8PuuPeGfRRqGK3v6teB3Bnflo7vGKtE8pOa3xFUtAHdRPuDFFUNCsFznfes69Wsth5LFoXTk0q65PYJjf5fc7Mc257jI5WyloCrKy2g5CNxxuoO3tbwctBqfIK4WcNbk75kyLaWDSZx1g8o6whl5gKtDKWfBUG5Xdps/s1784/ActivevsPassiveChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1302&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1784&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1JX2_IQ0K6wP6vHLgDO-7hHoa8PuuPeGfRRqGK3v6teB3Bnflo7vGKtE8pOa3xFUtAHdRPuDFFUNCsFznfes69Wsth5LFoXTk0q65PYJjf5fc7Mc257jI5WyloCrKy2g5CNxxuoO3tbwctBqfIK4WcNbk75kyLaWDSZx1g8o6whl5gKtDKWfBUG5Xdps/w400-h293/ActivevsPassiveChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is undeniable that the rise of passive investing vehicles has empowered investors, who have gained in terms of choice and costs, but it has also created an existential crisis for active investors, and especially so for those who make a living out of managing other people&#39;s money. While some active investors hold on to hope - that they are better than the rest, that this is a cycle that will reverse, that some new technology (big data, AI) will save them- there are others who have taken a different tack. Mostly conceding that index funds and ETFs have outperformed fund managers, they have taken to arguing that the rise of passive investing is creating costs and effects that outweigh its benefits, and that action is needed urgently, though it is unclear from whom. In this section, I will highlight three of those effects.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. The Index Inclusion Boost&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The addition of a company to a well known or widely followed index (the S&amp;amp;P 500, Dow 30, MSCI Global) yields pluses, increasing its visibility to investors and potentially making it more investable, as well as increasing trading volume on the stock and making it more liquid. The question of how those benefits get priced in when a stock gets added to an index (and the costs of being removed from an index) have been studied over time, with a focus on additions to (and removals from) the S&amp;amp;P 500. As passive investing has grown, with more choices in index funds, it remains true that a significant percentage of passive investors hold S&amp;amp;P 500 index funds, and that, in the eyes of some, this should make inclusion in the S&amp;amp;P 500 index an even greater positive today than in decades past.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Looking across these studies, there seems to be a consensus that&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;there is a bump up&amp;nbsp; in the stock price from a company being added to the S&amp;amp;P 500, and bump down, when a company is deleted from the index, but disagreements both about the magnitude of the bump and whether it is permanent and transitory. The general sense that you get from studies is that&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;bump in stock prices from being included in the index has become smaller and more transitory over time, and in the last decade or two decades, it has largely disappeared.&lt;/i&gt; To back this up, I look at one of the most complete studies that I have seen of the index inclusion question, where S&amp;amp;P took a look at the 715 companies added and 711 company deletions made to the S&amp;amp;P 500 between January 1995 and June 2021, and examine the excess returns in the days around the change:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWfgU03s5bzqAMsFVrwSpjGaM-AY3Uq9JAqsDwELR-_VW-vQPM4glvNiX8R1cqfiGs9zWpJsEbcpZLkJ03VvjPDEv60THCm0kv_yUtJv2i9M7AayeM5KvSw9rOTTeSCL3vPW7VRl5SdHyn1K4NyAK3H4GUvxqQsl9V7wF6YnfPpXzquX76cfzWf3dt8TY/s1462/IndexListingEffectsoverTime.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;220&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1462&quot; height=&quot;60&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWfgU03s5bzqAMsFVrwSpjGaM-AY3Uq9JAqsDwELR-_VW-vQPM4glvNiX8R1cqfiGs9zWpJsEbcpZLkJ03VvjPDEv60THCm0kv_yUtJv2i9M7AayeM5KvSw9rOTTeSCL3vPW7VRl5SdHyn1K4NyAK3H4GUvxqQsl9V7wF6YnfPpXzquX76cfzWf3dt8TY/w400-h60/IndexListingEffectsoverTime.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/research/research-what-happened-to-the-index-effect.pdf&quot;&gt;Link to study&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, the positiv eprice effects of being added to the S&amp;amp;P 500 index have depleted over time, as have the negative price effects of being removed from the index. Note that this finding cuts against the argument that as passive investing has increased in the last two decades, the allure of being in the S&amp;amp;P 500 should also have gone up. Instead, as the value of funds indexed to the S&amp;amp;P 500 has surged over the last two decades, the effect of being added to or taken out of the index has become smaller, not larger, and there is evidence accumulating that companies that get added to the S&amp;amp;P 500 are more likely to underperform than outperform in the twelve months after the addition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As the debate about whether SpaceX, OpenAI and Anthropic should be included in the S&amp;amp;P 500 index heats up, I would suggest that the evidence of a small and dissipating price effect of inclusion has to become part of the discussion. I am sure that there will be some who will disagree with me, but I don&#39;t think the price trajectories of any of these firms will be altered by whether they are included in or excluded from the S&amp;amp;P 500. For those who disagree with me, and believe that being added to index is bullish for investors in these companies, I would recommend that you &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.researchaffiliates.com/insights/publications/articles/832-revisiting-teslas-addition-to-the-sp500&quot;&gt;look at the chart from this study&lt;/a&gt; which took a look at Tesla&#39;s stock price behavior before, during and after its replacement of Apartment Investment and Management (AIV) in the S&amp;amp;P 500 on December 18, 2020.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhSBlzGBFh2bKKNPeb_0BrOU1nsxkRf1SCiM3hcuVk4lRQJwJUg6p1c6LrO5rwnSjt34OJ9kC2CpdHBOiqe5cmTlfA5BUgowUrGs6mdN2KFsb7oav6yBZ4iXFWDxVJmPFi_ODwkBaWc3O7EKpl7MtQ1j4Gz0Ss7183yKgvW4ptRr2bewc12uDMZKI46seo/s1426/TeslaInclusionEffect.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;994&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1426&quot; height=&quot;279&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhSBlzGBFh2bKKNPeb_0BrOU1nsxkRf1SCiM3hcuVk4lRQJwJUg6p1c6LrO5rwnSjt34OJ9kC2CpdHBOiqe5cmTlfA5BUgowUrGs6mdN2KFsb7oav6yBZ4iXFWDxVJmPFi_ODwkBaWc3O7EKpl7MtQ1j4Gz0Ss7183yKgvW4ptRr2bewc12uDMZKI46seo/w400-h279/TeslaInclusionEffect.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Tesla not only under performed the S&amp;amp;P 500 in the months after its inclusion in the index, but massively underperformed the company (AIV) that it replaced in the index.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. Momentum versus Fundamentals&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As the funds invested in index funds and ETFs has surged, the argument that some are making is that being added to an index gives you a boost, largely because of index fund flows to companies in that index, and more of a boost if you are a large cap company. Since the money flows from other stocks, this line of thought also suggests that fundamentals will receive less attention and disconnect more from prices, especially because there are fewer active investors doing research and looking for market inefficiencies. In addition, they note that since indices are mostly market cap weighted, this momentum benefits larger market cap companies, in effect allowing them to become larger. As evidence in favor of this argument, they point to the fact that markets have become top heavy, where a few winners are carrying the entire market, that the small cap premium, an enduring feature of equity markets in the twentieth century, has largely disappeared in this one and the dominance of momentum in investing success in the last decade.&amp;nbsp; I concede that these phenomena are consistent with the &quot;passive investing feeds momentum&quot; story, but I am skeptical that passive investing is the cause for the following reasons:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Momentum can cut in both directions&lt;/u&gt;: It is true that funds flowing into index funds flow into the companies in that index, with more flowing into large cap companies, but it is also true that funds can flow out of index funds, and when that happens, the momentum can cut in the other direction. In fact, the conclusion is that inclusion in a widely-tracked index (like the S&amp;amp;P 500) will increase intraday and short term volatility, but not price levels. In fact, the fading price bump from being added to the S&amp;amp;P 500 that we noted in the last section is an indication that the market does not buy into the momentum story.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Winner-take-all economics&lt;/u&gt;: If momentum is the reason for the big companies winning, there should be divergence between small and big companies on how fundamentals get priced. Put simply, you should see the pricing metrics (PE ratios, EV to EBITDA) for large cap companies increasing relative to small cap companies, as passive investing surges. Looking back at the fading small cap effect and top-heavy markets of the last decade or two, I would note that not all large cap companies have been winners, and the winning large cap companies have delivered a disproportionate portion of increased earnings. In the context of the Mag Seven, I have talked about how technology and disruption has changed more industries into winner-take-all businesses, with a few companies dominating these businesses, and why that phenomenon will play out in markets as well.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Active investing and equity research&lt;/u&gt;: In my view, the notion that most analysts and active investors are looking for market inefficiencies and seeking out information strikes me as misplaced. Much of active investing is built around publicly available information and a belief in the power of mean reversion, not original research and seeking information. It is true that there is a subset of active investors and equity research analysts who contribute to making prices more informative, but that subset is a small one, and one that is better equipped to survive the passive investing shift.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Doomsday stories about how passive investing is making markets less efficient and less inclined to reflect fundamentals strike me as overwrought, and while active investing will continue to lose market share, and deservedly so, it will not disappear. Since these stories are often being told by fund managers who not so long ago spoke contemptuously about efficient markets as an academic fever dream, they also strike me as both hypocritical and self-serving.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Even if you accept the argument that passive investing is making markets less efficient and more momentum-driven is true, I am unsure about the implications for investing. Asking individual investors, retirees and endowment funds to&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;pay fees to professionals to manage their money while underperforming indices, in service to the larger cause of market efficiency is tone deaf and a non-starter. In fact, any endowment or pension fund manager who uses this argument to steer endowment funds to active money managers would be in violation of his or her fiduciary responsibility. Perhaps, the argument is being made to regulators to restrict index funds (on which indices they can index, how much money they can manage), I can see why active money managers may be in favor, because I understand that they are trying to protect their livelihood, but they should dispense with any talk about protecting individual investors or making markets more efficient.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;3. Hidden risks&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; An undercurrent in some of the opinion pieces that I have read about why SpaceX should not be included in the S&amp;amp;P 500, written by investment experts and academics, is that it will expose retail investors and retirees to risks that they are unaware they are taking, or even if made aware of the fact, should not be taking in the first place. In particular, these opinion-writers seem to be arguing that the risks associated with investing in a big, money-losing companies (like SpaceX, and presumably OpenAI and Anthropic, when they go public) are so large that individual investors and retirees would not invest in these companies, and even they would, they should not be allowed to do so.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I find this chain of reasoning to be both misguided and condescending, and reflective of misconceptions that are deeply and widely held in the investment expert class:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Risk and Diversification&lt;/u&gt;: Is it true that individual investors, if made aware of the companies that they owned in index funds, would blanch at the risks that they have exposed to in individual holdings? Investing just in a portfolio of a few companies like SpaceX would be imprudent, but an investor in a S&amp;amp;P 500 index fund is far less exposed to underperforming the market than the typical active money manager who either over invests in SpaceX (if it goes down) or chooses not to invest in it (if it goes up).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Smart and Stupid Money&lt;/u&gt;: While the investment experts and academics who push to protect retail investors and retirees from their own mistakes will never put into words this belief, implicit in this push is the view that these small investors are uninformed and naive, and will be exploited by smart money (institutional investors and hedge funds). The notion that the smart money will know whether SpaceX (and companies like it) is overvalued or under valued, and is positioned to time investments better is fanciful, since institutional investors are more traders than investors, making them market followers, not leader.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Good businesses and good investments&lt;/u&gt;: The weakest link in the argument against putting your money in money-losing companies is the implicit belief that money-making companies are good (safe) investments and that money-losing companies are bad (risky) ones. I will wager than an investor who was constrained to invest only in money-making businesses in the last two decades would have under performed an investor operating without those constraints, even after adjusting for risk. At the right price, a money-losing company can be a good investment and at the wrong price, a company with solid and stable profits can be a bad investment.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I am generally skeptical of attempts to protect individual or retail investors from their own mistakes and decisions, since more damage has been done to this group by those claiming try to help and protect them over time than by those who are out to exploit them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;In the week prior to the SpaceX IPO, S&amp;amp;P removed some of the suspense in the question of whether the company would be included in the index by announcing that they would stick with their requirement that a company be listed and traded at least a year before becoming eligible for index inclusion. That decision also means that OpenAI and Anthropic, if they do go public this year, will also have to wait a year for consideration. I am glad that S&amp;amp;P is not changing the rules to allow these companies to jump the queue to get into the index, but I hope that it is not framed as a decision that was taken to protect investors or in the hope that these companies would become magically money making, better governed and with working business models. The truth is that a year after they list and start trading, these three companies will still be money losing businesses, with business models that are still works in progress and will remain corporate governance horror stories.&amp;nbsp; S&amp;amp;P needs the time to manage the transition of three trillion-dollar companies into the index, even as it confronts the challenge of claiming to be a large cap index that does not include three of the largest market cap stocks in the market. As for the companies (SpaceX, OpenAI and Anthropic), I will wager that they will lose little in market momentum from not being included in the index, and that their price paths will be determined by how the AI story continues to play out in terms of both substance (growth, unit economics, reinvestment) and perception (hype and momentum). The bottom line is that S&amp;amp;P needs these companies in its index more than they need to be in the index, with the consequence that the companies will not go out of their way to meet index requirements that they feel are costly to them, and that if there is any bending, it will be S&amp;amp;P that does it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/fbesNIjd_pY?si=lnyk5XzD4I-vpLo7&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;f20c9b111e0d-a5ba-8d04-a9fa-c1724a20&quot; id=&quot;f20c9b111e0d-a5ba-8d04-a9fa-c1724a20&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8226190618480657811/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/8226190618480657811' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8226190618480657811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8226190618480657811'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/06/indexology-index-mechanics-and.html' title='SpaceX, OpenAI and Anthropic: The S&amp;P 500 Inclusion Question and Investment Consequences!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhj1wpIkZvYJjbvS4mtSPgYtHSwkNpYddw_sjmwUeibzKUyHylyb_a3ZPKnXQLf0uQg3XykhcL44md7DFvYwbPzsYwsynxetz85r_etZWOGU2pcWM4VF4EvglB6-B2kzNeXmxuR-OwZTz4oZkeh7Nf9RLwfrSbWNtZGV5q_ax7KIIdVHCVgMSNF7dh6g3c/s72-w400-h291-c/largecapvsS&amp;P500.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-9217406089962531289</id><published>2026-06-04T18:43:35.178-04:00</published><updated>2026-06-13T11:17:08.037-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="AI"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Big Markets"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="IPO"/><title type='text'>Revisiting the SpaceX Valuation: A Post-Prospectus Update!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; A&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/04/to-trillion-dollars-and-beyond-spacex.html&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;few weeks ago, I assessed the value of SpaceX ahead of its initial public offering&lt;/a&gt;, with the admission that I was making my estimates with drabs of data, some of it coming from unofficial sources. I also promised to revisit my valuation, when the prospectus came out, and now that it has, I will examine how the information it contains has changed my view of the company and its valuation. I will also use this post to talk about the information gained by having access to a company&#39;s financials, and why the information you glean from those financials is different at younger companies, with growth potential, relative to mature companies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Prospectus: Data versus Information&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;The requirement that companies that plan to go public in the United States have to register with the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) and file a prospectus has been in place for decades, but the contents have changed over time, with disclosures added on partly by regulation and partly in response to investor demands. In a paper &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3936750&amp;amp;__cf_chl_tk=4NWBxFEb20rvLwHGyanUKv7cuG3q_QPj9WK2Trf8mAI-1780581766-1.0.1.1-SlmsN1DJoBAtgsBfSBop4.0oe.Ojxvo6eHisZZQCdrk&quot;&gt;focusing on IPO disclosures &lt;/a&gt;from a couple of years ago, I noted that prospectuses have become more bloated over time, often running four to five times longer than those filed by companies that went public three or four decades ago, but not necessarily more informative. The &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm&quot;&gt;SpaceX prospectus that we made public on May 20, 2026&lt;/a&gt;, is 277 pages long, with an addendum that runs another 100 pages, with dozens of pictures (mostly of spaceships going into orbit), a soaring story, but with weak links and multiple distractions. To get a measure of how the prospectus changes my pre-prospectus story and valuation, I will start with the easy part of the update, where I use the numbers from the financial statements in the prospectus to replace my pre-prospectus estimates, on operating metrics like revenues and earnings as well as on share count and IPO proceeds. I will then move on to the weightier part of the analysis, where I assess how the information in the prospectus has changed my story line and value for the company.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Prospectus: Data update&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;In my pre-prospectus valuation, where I assessed the &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/SpaceX2026IPO.xlsx&quot;&gt;value of SpaceX at roughly $1.2 trillion&lt;/a&gt;, I relied on scraps of information, including leaked stories of estimated revenues ($15.5 billion) and EBITDA of $8 billion, since I did not have access to the company&#39;s full financial statements.&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;With the release of the prospectus, that shortcoming has been remedied, and I started by updating the operating metrics that drive the intrinsic value of the company:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEuW3nTNChF_VBnzhoLIVr6pw3plk0yhN3WJpQBdC9LldKtR2VQ_X-hpMRzrSEgwLs5hgevDRoLZOH3om1JnjmJGpfuZlV4DE7BzVY80aooXH4KLOromWz88Tb7ucSl6mq-r974f0FHdsRiZmGYo82MMkP8OOpiWkI90iv5YNlwWO_ja7xrV19vWceiuI/s1466/DataUpdateTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;326&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1466&quot; height=&quot;89&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEuW3nTNChF_VBnzhoLIVr6pw3plk0yhN3WJpQBdC9LldKtR2VQ_X-hpMRzrSEgwLs5hgevDRoLZOH3om1JnjmJGpfuZlV4DE7BzVY80aooXH4KLOromWz88Tb7ucSl6mq-r974f0FHdsRiZmGYo82MMkP8OOpiWkI90iv5YNlwWO_ja7xrV19vWceiuI/w400-h89/DataUpdateTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm&quot;&gt;SpaceX prospectus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, my estimates for revenues for the launch and connectivity (Starlink) businesses were close to the actual numbers, but my xAI revenue estimates were much lower than reported. Overall, I had estimated an operating loss of $2 billion in 2025, and the prospectus yielded a larger loss of $2.57 billion. With almost $2 billion in interest expenses, unavailable prior to the prospectus, incorporated, the company reported a net loss of about $5 billion. A big factor in the operating losses reported by the company were its ballooning R&amp;amp;D expenses, and in keeping with my argument that these expenses should be capitalized, I estimated an earnings before interest, taxes and R&amp;amp;D of $4 billion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; On the financing front, the prospectus filled in details on cash and debt that were unavailable prior to the prospectus being made public:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhfzBd7XjtoMO4FSukDe6CvKo5Wj_Gj7bUByRRndqnr2EuF1ucg6K3VlPLp8ekWorxpUk4raiPofB3zM9QEK0MKUWS6aPDRJf9_Nc2WAsT6D9qS-gMymgbKs5jNUwAmSByM59-rmeCad01KLFk544P9B5oB0TOULnx7gav3Ge9JfuU2FpixScN5dP_fwhI/s1458/FinancingInputTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;182&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1458&quot; height=&quot;40&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhfzBd7XjtoMO4FSukDe6CvKo5Wj_Gj7bUByRRndqnr2EuF1ucg6K3VlPLp8ekWorxpUk4raiPofB3zM9QEK0MKUWS6aPDRJf9_Nc2WAsT6D9qS-gMymgbKs5jNUwAmSByM59-rmeCad01KLFk544P9B5oB0TOULnx7gav3Ge9JfuU2FpixScN5dP_fwhI/s320/FinancingInputTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm&quot;&gt;SpaceX prospectus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;My pre-prospectus estimate of book value of equity was a shot in the dark, at $20 billion, but the acquisition of xAI caused that number to jump to $41.3 billion, as did the total debt (inclusive of leases) to $22.9 billion. The former (book value of equity) played little role in my valuation, but ignoring debt of this magnitude may seem monumental, there are two offsetting factors that reduce the impact on my value estimate. The first is that I also ignored the presence of cash, and with $24.7 billion in cash, the company&#39;s net debt is&amp;nbsp;−$1.9 billion (cash exceeds debt), making the impact on value minimal. The second is that with my estimate enterprise value of $1.21 trillion, the debt, even if considered in full, is small enough to represent rounding error.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The prospectus did contain information on share count and structure, as well as on the company&#39;s plans for the proceeds, and both were useful at the margin, with the former affecting my estimated value per share and the latter determining the treatment of the cash that will be raised from the offering:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Share count&lt;/u&gt;: In my initial valuation, I used the private company pricing per share in conjunction with estimated market cap to back out a share count of 2467 million shares. With the prospectus, we get a clearer sense of shares outstanding, with a basic share count of 12,535 million shares reported in the prospectus (pages 246 &amp;amp; 247) in computing per share numbers. That share count does not include the new shares that will be issued in the offering, but that share count will be determined by the magnitude of the offering as well as the expected issuance price, and while the total share count includes options, warrants and rights that are exercisable before June 30, it does not include restricted stock units held by employees (see prospectus, page 18) and that information is still blanked out in the prospectus.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Use of proceeds&lt;/u&gt;: It is estimated that SpaceX plans to raise $75 billion from the offering, and the prospectus specifies that the company plans to hold the proceeds to cover infrastructure investments in these businesses (see prospectus, page 66). That implies that any money raised in the offering will add to the company&#39;s cash balance, right after the offering, and will augment firm value (but not enterprise value).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The prospectus also lays bare the governance questions that will overhang the firm, with information that there will be&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;two classes of shares- 6,932 million class A shares with one vote per share and 5,602 million class B shares with ten votes per share. The public offering will be class A shares, and with Elon Musk holding all of the class B shares, he will control more than 85% of the voting rights in the company.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In summary, the prospectus is long and filled with distractions, but there is almost nothing in it that surprises me. SpaceX is a growing company that is money-losing and cash-burning, that will be a Elon Musk vehicle (with all the pluses and minuses that entails).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Prospectus: Story update&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;In my original post, I noted that SpaceX is a company, where it is the story about how its businesses will evolve over time that drives value, rather than the base year numbers (on revenues, earnings and cash flows). That story, broadly speaking, has three key spokes to it and they are summarized below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgBDs7P92MSddztDYQWhCZiPEwmLlb8AwBxDD6JSdIOrj9TtaMLvXtutUteaJQzotuSyR32Tv-z_jxDevAsXBSqbASlCgvfuH_6-yOggUhme7_crM_FqDSbqooH1wiwzCDsinhK5ethxMcH_DupB6cdlx4x-hi16wO0QQ78xJn3gd1XHXV-EUE_o62hHhU/s1818/StoryDimensions.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1128&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1818&quot; height=&quot;249&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgBDs7P92MSddztDYQWhCZiPEwmLlb8AwBxDD6JSdIOrj9TtaMLvXtutUteaJQzotuSyR32Tv-z_jxDevAsXBSqbASlCgvfuH_6-yOggUhme7_crM_FqDSbqooH1wiwzCDsinhK5ethxMcH_DupB6cdlx4x-hi16wO0QQ78xJn3gd1XHXV-EUE_o62hHhU/w400-h249/StoryDimensions.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;The first of these spokes, &lt;i&gt;target revenues,&lt;/i&gt; frame how big each business can grow over time, and is a function of the total market and market share. The second, the &lt;i&gt;target operating margin&lt;/i&gt;, will capture how profitable each business can become, and is determined by unit economics and economies of scale. The third, reinvestment, measures how much each business has to invest to get to target revenues, and will vary with the capital intensity of the business. To frame how my valuation will change, as a result of what I learned from looking at the prospectus, I will start by presenting by pre-prospectus estimates on these key inputs, and then look at the impact of the prospectus on each input.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pre-prospectus inputs and value&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;My pre-prospectus valuation of SpaceX contains my storyline for the three businesses that the company is in, with an add-on for the expansion options embedded in each business:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOO3Jvof59Pc50KpinG_9H1qQ-LMhlYn2p9-RamcVt76w0CHIihPd-T859CIbAiiL1IsXwCdNzhMm9aHZft82rO4BIPgD95gLVbxdUp30WsSobpO3RgavwUXdx4FrAAFSS8rSTbq-Y8nv0S0mM3HnoJNCvz2A5VD_K13nleFoPGrJ59tt3MW7zQA9hDu4/s817/StoryforInputs.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;268&quot; data-original-width=&quot;817&quot; height=&quot;131&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOO3Jvof59Pc50KpinG_9H1qQ-LMhlYn2p9-RamcVt76w0CHIihPd-T859CIbAiiL1IsXwCdNzhMm9aHZft82rO4BIPgD95gLVbxdUp30WsSobpO3RgavwUXdx4FrAAFSS8rSTbq-Y8nv0S0mM3HnoJNCvz2A5VD_K13nleFoPGrJ59tt3MW7zQA9hDu4/w400-h131/StoryforInputs.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;With these inputs in place, I estimated a value of $1.2 trillion the SpaceX enterprise, and since I ignored cash and debt, this yielded an equivalent market value. Driving these numbers are upbeat stories about each of the three businesses that SpaceX is in, with large revenues and high margins in stable growth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Prospectus Effect&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;To the extent that the prospectus contains information that alters the storylines on any or all of these businesses, it will affect my estimate of value for SpaceX.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Revenue Growth (Target Revenues)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I will start with the growth (target revenues) input and use two parts of the prospectus to reexamine my story. The first is the &lt;i&gt;historical growth&lt;/i&gt; reported by the company for each of its three business lines - launch, connectivity and AI.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjSilpLBYTM2AAK4l581HzCFgzgyegTOlsvMlFd7AjOTUYerYyDSvcOmm_ZoghtaEVCL91bcQ5FUtZR1QuNpBJjVcxG5B4O81v_zI6AcNJO24bYE3hyphenhyphenlvUP4kU9QYJFTmL3V1iQ_nqn425y-iwecv3PorbGgKujPWTV-yjcHuTsy9dw1K_m0k-xoSYSviI/s1081/RevChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;546&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1081&quot; height=&quot;203&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjSilpLBYTM2AAK4l581HzCFgzgyegTOlsvMlFd7AjOTUYerYyDSvcOmm_ZoghtaEVCL91bcQ5FUtZR1QuNpBJjVcxG5B4O81v_zI6AcNJO24bYE3hyphenhyphenlvUP4kU9QYJFTmL3V1iQ_nqn425y-iwecv3PorbGgKujPWTV-yjcHuTsy9dw1K_m0k-xoSYSviI/w400-h203/RevChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As you can see, the company saw its revenues grow by a third in 2025, relative to 2024, with divergence across businesses; the connectivity business led with revenues growing by almost 50%, the AI business saw an increase in revenues of about 22% but the space business reported only modest growth in the year (7.64%). In short, notwithstanding the star role played by AI and the appeal of the rockets in the space launch business, it is Starlink that carried the company in 2025. The prospectus mentions Colossus, xAI&#39;s compute center, which has been leased to Anthropic for an eye-popping $1.25 billion a month, which should kickstart revenues next year, with the potential of tension in future years if xAI plans to go head-to-head against Anthropic in the AI products market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The other relevant section of the prospectus contained estimates of total addressable market (TAM) for the company, broken down by business:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi44jadwANuw-kUJAzbGtVGS6pVX1DxqckcJCr_Rw0IYF2COYl-YxOvr0ktGGlCjFxybIa_Z8eelT-nprw_T8YG-yEeYCf20JRc2d7xwcgXbImPOXUB5AqLTHEnSjpGOhXGtNxTf7YoAdRZn4St2eZ1qtAn5otxwHLnPVUEmQ_TEAk_DKiH1RHFn0C4Ir0/s1056/TAMchart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;834&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1056&quot; height=&quot;316&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi44jadwANuw-kUJAzbGtVGS6pVX1DxqckcJCr_Rw0IYF2COYl-YxOvr0ktGGlCjFxybIa_Z8eelT-nprw_T8YG-yEeYCf20JRc2d7xwcgXbImPOXUB5AqLTHEnSjpGOhXGtNxTf7YoAdRZn4St2eZ1qtAn5otxwHLnPVUEmQ_TEAk_DKiH1RHFn0C4Ir0/w400-h316/TAMchart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;If the prospectus is to be believed, SpaceX has the largest TAM of any company in history, with a total TAM of $28 trillion, and AI accounts for $26 trillion of that market estimate. This estimate borders on fantasy, but I will cut the bankers who came up with these numbers some slack for two reasons. First, the estimation of TAM has been gamified by Silicon Valley, with bloated and patently unreachable numbers floated for companies, as I noted when I &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2019/04/ubers-coming-out-party-personal.html&quot;&gt;valued Uber&lt;/a&gt; (which was given a TAM of $5.7 trillion in its prospectus) for its IPO in 2019 and &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-sharing-economy-come-home-ipo-of.html&quot;&gt;Airbnb&lt;/a&gt; (with a TAM of $3.4 trillion in its prospectus) in 2020.&amp;nbsp; Second, it is true that AI agents are usable across almost every business and geography, giving it much wider reach than most products and services, and while the details of how the TAM was estimated are not specified in the prospectus, my guess is that the $26 trillion estimate includes all or most of the operating expenses of all businesses.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Story takeaway: I will stick with my estimates for target markets for the space launch and connectivity businesses, since the TAMs in the prospectus are, in my view, over reaches, and I will slow growth in the near years, to reflect that these businesses will take time to mature. In the AI business, I disagree with the magnitude of the TAM in the prospectus, but the acquisition of Cursor and the indications in the prospectus suggest that xAI very much wants to be part of the enterprise solutions space, notwithstanding its immense capitalization needs, and I will double my target revenues for AI from $80 billion to $160 billion, reflecting my estimate of a TAM of about $3 trillion to $4 trillion for AI products and services from businesses.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. Profitability&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; On the profitability front, the first part of the prospectus that I looked at was its breakdown of income statements, by business:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkNIzR6y1v8z-tFPXaD4FDRuG3bCtv61YdHGyb-lCCDb8Hl4DtED6vkm6yqKBXU1IU5BFc02VCcptKcRkRq_tecltaasuyhne9sW-B-GRbw_q3onPpzCs9bgaLvnSlW1lir5gRuNeYEZ7b6gBWUNGcjl5uIqCOFdQRiaQxbdcuZi3GwXKsBFqGM_2PozY/s694/UnitEconomics.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;557&quot; data-original-width=&quot;694&quot; height=&quot;321&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkNIzR6y1v8z-tFPXaD4FDRuG3bCtv61YdHGyb-lCCDb8Hl4DtED6vkm6yqKBXU1IU5BFc02VCcptKcRkRq_tecltaasuyhne9sW-B-GRbw_q3onPpzCs9bgaLvnSlW1lir5gRuNeYEZ7b6gBWUNGcjl5uIqCOFdQRiaQxbdcuZi3GwXKsBFqGM_2PozY/w400-h321/UnitEconomics.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;With the caveat that we have only two years of detailed information, there are interesting findings that emerge from the historical data on each of the businesses.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The space business has the best unit economics of the three business&lt;/i&gt;, with a gross margin of about 67%, reflecting the cost advantages of its reusable rocket technology. While the space business reported an operating loss, that was entirely because of its weighty R&amp;amp;D expenses, and capitalizing those expenses results in a healthy operating margin for the business.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The connectivity business does not have gross margins as high as the space business&lt;/i&gt;, but those gross margins are improving, with gross margins jumping from 37% in 2024 to 48% in 2025. This business had positive operating income in 2025, even before capitalizing R&amp;amp;D, and improves substantially with capitalization.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The AI business not only has the lowest gross margins of the three businesses, but saw deterioration of those margins in 2025&lt;/i&gt;, reflecting intense competition from other LLMs as well as the rising costs of delivering AI products and services.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are other parts of the prospectus that come into play in the profitability discussion, with each of the businesses:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;On the space launch business, the cost of launching payloads at SpaceX have been trending down, making its already large cost advantages in the business even larger.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;On the connectivity businesses, there is bad news and good news on the per user front. The bad news is that the revenues, per month, per subscriber, declined from $99 in monthly revenues in 2024 to $66 in monthly revenues in the first quarter of 2026. The good news is that the number of subscribers has doubled from 5 million in the first quarter of 2025 to 10.3 million in the first quarter of 2026, with the bonus that the company has been able to improve its profitability (see gross margins in the table above) over time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;On the AI business, there is not much to go on, on the profitability front, since the focus in the prospectus is more on the increase in compute capacity (see nameplate compute draw on Page 90 of the prospectus) than it is on revenues, especially on the enterprise front. Here again, though, the Colossus lease with Anthropic should help with profitability in the near term.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Story takeaway: The unit economics for the space businesses, in conjunction with the recognition that there are no other substantial operating expenses (outside of the misclassified R&amp;amp;D expense) in either business, lead me to increase my estimate of the target margin for the business to 45%, from 40%. I will leave intact the target margin of 60% for the connectivity business, because once the satellites that service this business are in space, this is the business that will benefit the most from scale. My biggest shift is in my estimated target margin is for the AI business, where the dynamics that are pushing gross margins down, i.e., increased competition and high costs of delivering AI services, will persist; my estimated operating margin drops from 45% to 25%.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;Reinvestment&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;In my post prior to accessing the prospectus, I did describe SpaceX as a capital intensive business, but the actual spending on capital expenditures and R&amp;amp;D in the prospectus is breathtaking in its magnitude:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3yqriBP8vSekG7DFGohGzmUI2HSyNby6B3STMDkROYDFbxGcr1YFfB5VM3ZwEkV80hawB9WthPBpWKUI9GpJdCZj8zIm7BWwYFmoRlckjUmV8UlEqSPfTS3X817L3Z6eUQCGMN0Bqtfrxd6Sm4TQfTJDRkY19YYTFwYbPnxyJQKE7rREeRfJpuioJUyg/s1606/ReinvChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;592&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1606&quot; height=&quot;148&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3yqriBP8vSekG7DFGohGzmUI2HSyNby6B3STMDkROYDFbxGcr1YFfB5VM3ZwEkV80hawB9WthPBpWKUI9GpJdCZj8zIm7BWwYFmoRlckjUmV8UlEqSPfTS3X817L3Z6eUQCGMN0Bqtfrxd6Sm4TQfTJDRkY19YYTFwYbPnxyJQKE7rREeRfJpuioJUyg/w400-h148/ReinvChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In 2025, the company spent almost $14 billion in capital expenditures and almost $9 billion in R&amp;amp;D, a doubling of its reinvestment from 2024. In particular, it is AI that is driving the bulk of this surge, accounting for more than $14 billion in total reinvestment in 2025, with $9.1 billion in capital expenditures and $5.1 billion in R&amp;amp;D. The positive twist that a SpaceX optimist would put on these numbers is that the spending on AI in particular is a positive, indicating that the company is not planning to settle on a niche market strategy, but instead will will go head-to-head with Anthropic, Google and OpenAI for the enterprise solutions markets. The negative spin is that this ambitious agenda will translate into tens of billions more in capital expenditures in the near years, creating a drag on the cash flows and value destruction if they lose the AI market competition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Story takeaway: Given that SpaceX is continuing to invest substantial amounts in its space launch and connectivity businesses, I will increase reinvestment in the near term (years 1-5) by lowering how much they will generate as additional revenues for every additional dollar of capital invested (lower sales to capital ratios). With AI, where I was already assuming that reinvestment would be large (with a low sales to capital ratio), the tripling of target revenues will result in a surge in reinvestment to generate the higher sales.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Updating Story and Value&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While the core story of SpaceX being a company with growth potential and strong competitive advantages that I framed prior to reading the prospectus remains intact, there are changes to that story that come from the information in the prospectus. The prospectus reinforces the notions that the company is best positioned in the connectivity business to generate both revenue growth and profits in the near term, that its cost advantages in the space launch business will persist and deliver profits, but that target market will be slower to develop, and that the AI business has both the largest target market and poses the biggest challenges, in terms of profitability and capital intensity, for SpaceX.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;B&lt;/span&gt;ringing together my changes in target revenues, operating margins and reinvestment inputs allows for an update of the input table that I started this section with:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgWDCp0WOv646ybojxosUAMDBbJzO46eKKXHKVq2If5z6fbJU1CXQFB9g9J92LBOQOZVmlc5-vCnhH7PcyccluHEghJU7PyjwmSgVm8a-m9-loUPOikvMM00hcPNZXwnZ5onDQB_F2NSuywmgJ0uFjat0vmTarFDh0xPhp8kmThR-M3yOaLYAcGfDOjYvo/s1392/PostProspectusInputs.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;642&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1392&quot; height=&quot;185&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgWDCp0WOv646ybojxosUAMDBbJzO46eKKXHKVq2If5z6fbJU1CXQFB9g9J92LBOQOZVmlc5-vCnhH7PcyccluHEghJU7PyjwmSgVm8a-m9-loUPOikvMM00hcPNZXwnZ5onDQB_F2NSuywmgJ0uFjat0vmTarFDh0xPhp8kmThR-M3yOaLYAcGfDOjYvo/w400-h185/PostProspectusInputs.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Clearly, some of the changes in inputs (such as the higher margins for the space launch business and a bigger target market for AI) will push value higher, and some of the inputs (including a slowing of near term growth for all business, and the much lower margin for the AI business) will push in the opposite direction. Since US treasury rates have risen from 4.20% at the time of my earlier valuation to 4.56% at the start of June, I have increased the costs of capital that I use in the valuation accordingly (to 8.37% from 8.02% to start the valuation, and the steady state cost of capital to 8.25% from 8.00%; both numbers would put SpaceX at close to the median for all US companies). With these updated inputs, I reestimate the cash flows and the valuation for SpaceX, with the IPO proceeds (estimated at $75 billion) added to the mix:&amp;nbsp;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtq30aAR0lIhr-iF-wbmCPf4Q8IcxJuw5iFNtPm3T1-NPLJ5BjMHKQzR0ALJr5tOjFZXLwxPGaXFQPFZ4i0KGDyx_4u5vglmxCsaoAN_y9cpiFEG28mkJTRf2oieT4HE4WkyVMeKupQDVu7Ne0Ml4gbyhvDyPcyzKhvBXWJMdGvVILxXXJHZ28ju5D8T8/s1612/SpaceXPostProspectusValCorrect.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1558&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1612&quot; height=&quot;386&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtq30aAR0lIhr-iF-wbmCPf4Q8IcxJuw5iFNtPm3T1-NPLJ5BjMHKQzR0ALJr5tOjFZXLwxPGaXFQPFZ4i0KGDyx_4u5vglmxCsaoAN_y9cpiFEG28mkJTRf2oieT4HE4WkyVMeKupQDVu7Ne0Ml4gbyhvDyPcyzKhvBXWJMdGvVILxXXJHZ28ju5D8T8/w400-h386/SpaceXPostProspectusValCorrect.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/SpaceX2026IPOUpdated.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The enterprise value for SpaceX edges up from $1.21 trillion, in my pre-prospectus valuation, to $1.22 trillion with the post-prospectus numbers, and the overall equity value increases to $1.3 trillion, with almost all of the increase coming from the influx of $75 billion in cash from the IPO, albeit with a higher share count. The value per share of about $100 will need some revisiting as the IPO numbers firm up and more information is forthcoming on restricted stock units owned by employees, but just as I was finishing this post, a news story hit the wires that the offering price would be set at $135/share.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;If I were to summarize the impact of the prospectus on my SpaceX story, it would be that it has made the story bigger, but also more volatile. There are a multitude of risks that SpaceX faces in each of its businesses, but the one that I would be concerned about the most is that it will overreach in the AI business, beginning with an overestimate of the target market for AI products and services and the strength of its own competitive position in that market, and following through with investments that reflect those misplaced assessments. Those concerns are heightened&amp;nbsp; by a voting share structure that locks in Elon Musk&#39;s control of the company, since there is little that shareholders can do to restrain the company, if SpaceX doubles down on capital expenditures and acquisitions in the AI space, even after it becomes clear that the AI market is much smaller than anticipated and/or that xAI&#39;s offerings are not as good as the competition. If you add to this mix the antipathy that exists between Musk and Sam Altman, you have the potential for a UFC match between two monstrous egos, funded by tens of billions of dollars shareholder money.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Financial Statements and Value: The Life Cycle Effect&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;Financial analysis and valuation, g&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/Security-Analysis-Foreword-Buffett-Editions/dp/0071592539&quot;&gt;oing back to Ben Graham&#39;s Security Analysis&lt;/a&gt;, has always been centered on financial statements, and that focus has become more intense over the last few decades as access to data and analysis tools has expanded. In fact, much of what passes for valuation has become financial modeling, where line items in financial statements are forecast based upon the historical time series, with the proverbial bottom lines being earnings and cash flows. Along the way, ratios computed from financial statement numbers are used to screen companies for investment quality. Some of these ratios, such as accounting returns on capital and equity, have become the basis for assessing company quality and competitive moats in the hands of consultants and investors. The SpaceX prospectus is a case study in why this approach to investing is often myopic and misleading, and why the informational value of financial statements will change as companies grow and mature.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In valuing companies, you are always trying to forecast revenues, profits and cash flows in future, but they key questions you want answered and the drivers of value shift as you move through the life cycle:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-x2myaaNa9JLJCcHRXcJeyib2DD1vbgpQZhy7vj4SNg2-UynfnMZw-O-2fEMyeG1Z_jLNiu9irIOMNQBr28bvVlvfSEUDMFeKjXL9Ku_sYiJZt9XgaoFZrvZ55SB4mD3-x3-UPJcdFOvX8LslLUW6F-wQeEcJ20ZUVHQ5Kt8sAc_X0SX85FcunatdKVM/s1488/LifeCycleDisclosures.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1116&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1488&quot; height=&quot;300&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-x2myaaNa9JLJCcHRXcJeyib2DD1vbgpQZhy7vj4SNg2-UynfnMZw-O-2fEMyeG1Z_jLNiu9irIOMNQBr28bvVlvfSEUDMFeKjXL9Ku_sYiJZt9XgaoFZrvZ55SB4mD3-x3-UPJcdFOvX8LslLUW6F-wQeEcJ20ZUVHQ5Kt8sAc_X0SX85FcunatdKVM/w400-h300/LifeCycleDisclosures.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, for young companies, the key determinants of value include sizing the total market and assessing unit economics, and not the proverbial bottom lines in accounting statements including the magnitude of revenues and profitability. &lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As companies move through the life cycle from start-up to mature to decline, you should expect to see financial statements evolve as well. Young and high growth companies will generally report small revenues (though they expect those revenues to ramp up over time) and losing money and having negative cash flows is a feature, not a bug. As companies mature, revenues will get larger (albeit with lower growth) and profits turn positive, as will free cash flows available to return to shareholders in dividends and buybacks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuPbbnvMVZdNkJC6b5en5iFrZ6Bds0GohhHAaZuF13MZNS3c64sckzISuUg8L5cvG-zFxnhS7-NlmU5Kbuq7s2QMhIm9lFb3n1F0qh_8-NQYgkr_J3-wrh91_y2hpf7rU6I5hYC5yrPlaIV-XqJy9TeLgkUAf_xlb04MfnMQDxvU53diSx2WqQksrL72A/s1606/LifeCycleFinStatements.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1264&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1606&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuPbbnvMVZdNkJC6b5en5iFrZ6Bds0GohhHAaZuF13MZNS3c64sckzISuUg8L5cvG-zFxnhS7-NlmU5Kbuq7s2QMhIm9lFb3n1F0qh_8-NQYgkr_J3-wrh91_y2hpf7rU6I5hYC5yrPlaIV-XqJy9TeLgkUAf_xlb04MfnMQDxvU53diSx2WqQksrL72A/w400-h315/LifeCycleFinStatements.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;If you allow for the fact that all three of SpaceX&#39;s businesses are young, falling in the young to high growth categories, the big questions driving value are about market size and unit economics, since the former provides the basis for revenue growth and the latter determines profitability. That is why, when looking at the prospectus for SpaceX it was the data on total addressable markets, unit economics and capital intensity that had a bigger impact on value, and this information, for the most part, was in the footnotes to the financials, rather than in the financial statements themselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For those who are focused on value metrics/constraints (consistently money making, high profit margins and accounting returns)&amp;nbsp; and pricing multiples (low EV to EBITDA or low PE), the SpaceX prospectus is full of red flags. SpaceX is a company with small revenues and large losses, and paying a hundred times revenues for it (which is where a $1.8 trillion pricing would put it) seems foolhardy. I have no quarrels with this point of view, which animates old-time value investing, but this perspective comes with a cost in terms of investment choices.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Investors who are wedded to never buying money losing companies or never paying more than twenty times earnings for a stock will end up with portfolios of mature (and declining) businesses. If that is their comfort zone, the strategy is perfectly defensible, but they should dispense with complaints about never being able to find high growth stocks to invest in or critiques of others who find these stocks attractive, notwithstanding the weak numbers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There are many good arguments that can be made about why you should not invest in SpaceX, but basing that conclusion on the fact that they are money-losing or have negative cash flows or trade at a high multiple of revenues is both lazy and unconvincing. In contrast, making a case against investing in SpaceX because you believe that the target markets for its businesses will be far smaller than the company thinks they will be, or that cost and competitive pressures will drive margins down or even that you find its corporate governance structure and dependence on a personality (Elon Musk) off-putting is perfectly reasonable. If you do make that case, though, it is worth remembering that this is your point of view, and that disagreements about market size and profitability across investors, especially in young companies, are natural and healthy. In short, based on my inputs and story, I think that SpaceX is worth about $1.25-$1.3 trillion, but if you contend that it is worth $3 trillion or only half a trillion, it is neither my job nor my place to convince you that I am right and that you are wrong.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The IPO Pricing Game&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In the coming weeks, you will undoubtedly be exposed to multiple perspectives on SpaceX, and that is healthy. That said, you will be better equipped to make sense of these perspectives, and perhaps incorporate some of the views into your own, and reject those that do not make sense, if you have an understanding of what an IPO process involves. In particular, understanding the motivations of the different players in the game (the investment bankers setting the offering price and managing the offering,&amp;nbsp; the issuing company, the investors and traders jockeying for shares at that offering price and the traders positioning themselves for the first day of trading) will help determine whether you should be playing this game or sitting it out, at least for the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Bankers&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Let&#39;s start with the sequencing that goes into a conventional initial public offering, though alternatives have emerged to it in recent years:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiVtxRPHdbEWD1Z6MCBwhqY-UNUpB4V3yZ-PYjcathHq7i01guqHSllACP-NekPDjRPcw8DpSqoQ9TD6VYpMQ0ZuJkyLd7lur2IC6MJPkCYqbfdP0rmOXVGpGJyrn1hmSobhRyRWKyBoq5qe8_l32xwtk09gXb5Dk1y4C-Y8nUMa26Le-vDUHHZL6k4tbQ/s1294/IPOProcess.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1294&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1068&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiVtxRPHdbEWD1Z6MCBwhqY-UNUpB4V3yZ-PYjcathHq7i01guqHSllACP-NekPDjRPcw8DpSqoQ9TD6VYpMQ0ZuJkyLd7lur2IC6MJPkCYqbfdP0rmOXVGpGJyrn1hmSobhRyRWKyBoq5qe8_l32xwtk09gXb5Dk1y4C-Y8nUMa26Le-vDUHHZL6k4tbQ/w330-h400/IPOProcess.jpg&quot; width=&quot;330&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;As you look at the role played by bankers to the IPO process, allowing them to keep a &amp;nbsp;slice of the IPO proceeds, the SpaceX IPO is a testimonial to the dwindling value added by bankers on every dimension:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Timing&lt;/u&gt;: It is urban (or market) legend that investment banks can time markets, and that this market timing can help determine the best time to go public. Just one look at the track record of market strategists at investment banks should dispense with this delusion, since banks (and most institutional investors) are (and have never been) good at gauging market momentum and shifts in mood.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Filing and Offering details&lt;/u&gt;: It is true that there are technical details and logistical steps to filing a prospectus and setting offering details, but they are almost all mechanical. With SpaceX, I am not sure whether the prospectus, as filed, was the work of a team of bankers, but if it was, I wonder what an entirely Grok-written prospectus would have looked like, and whether we would have noticed the difference.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Pricing&lt;/u&gt;: In an IPO, the bankers&#39; mission is to price companies for their offering, not value them, and while they usually draw on pricing multiples and peer groups to make that pricing judgment, they are guided by the pricing in the most recent private transactions, usually in the form on venture capital rounds. With SpaceX, that task is simplified by the reality that this company, while private, has had active trading in its private shares, and that it was priced at roughly $1.2 trillion prior to the IPO process commencing. Adding the $75 billion in offering proceeds, and incorporating the advantages of increased liquidity from being a public company and becoming part of the S&amp;amp;P 500, it is not surprising that there is a sense that the offering will be priced at between $1.5 trillion to $2 trillion, with or without the investment banking input. My guess is that we will end up somewhere in the middle, with some handwaving about revenue multiples and other AI companies used to justify that pricing. (After I finished this post, a news story popped up that the offer price would be set at $135/share, translating into about a $1.8 trillion pricing for the company.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Selling/Marketing&lt;/u&gt;: In an age where investment banks have lost credibility and social media is where marketing happens, SpaceX can generate its own marketing spin, and has an army of influencers behind it. In addition, almost every institutional investor has a point of view on whether to own SpaceX or not, it is unclear what exactly a roadyshow can do to augment the sales pitch.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Price guarantee&lt;/u&gt;: The pricing guarantee that investment bankers offer in initial public offerings is a mostly empty promise, since they systematically set offering prices at below (by 15-20%) what they believe the market will pay. That is the reason that the offer price for SpaceX will be set below the upper end of the range, and while the discount may seem like a significant loss to funders and current owners, the fact that the offering is for less than a tenth of the shares in the company will soften the blow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Post-market support&lt;/u&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;As a follow-up to the price guarantee, investment banks often offer after-market support for companies in the days after they go public, buying shares if the stock comes under selling pressure. With SpaceX, that option is off the table, since no investment bank has the capital to support the pricing of a two-trillion company, if investors turn negative on it.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In fact, given that banks are perhaps getting more from the initial public offering, in terms of publicity and allotments for their preferred clientele, than SpaceX is getting from their services, you could argue that the bankers should be paying the company for reflected glory, rather than charging them fees. The only good reason that I can think of for SpaceX not going the direct listing route, where you dispense with the kabuki dance of offerings and let the market set the offering price, is that the company needs the cash from the offering, and that route is much more difficult to take in a direct listing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Issuer (Company, Founder and Investors)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Looking at the IPO from the SpaceX perspective, the public offering will provide benefits. For the investors in the company in its private form, including venture capitalists from early in its life to public investors in more recent years, the IPO will allow them to cash out, albeit after the lock-out period expires in a few months. For the company, the increased access to capital from being a public company will allow it to fund the capital expenditures and investment needs that emanate from the company&#39;s ambitions in the AI business. For Elon Musk, the public offering has the potential to make him the first trillionaire in history, in addition to unlocking new pathways to further enrichment for meeting specified targets (including getting a million people on Mars).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Since some of these benefits have been in existence for many years, the fact that company stayed private for that period is an indication that there are costs to going public that have held it back. The first is that, notwithstanding Musk&#39;s voting control of the company, become a public company will open SpaceX to market scrutiny, in the form of earnings reports every quarter and insider trading reports. The second is that the market is fickle, and while it is rewarding companies that invest in AI with high market prices today, it can change its mind and punish them for the same reason. The third is that while there is little that investors can do to trade and make money on overpriced private businesses, they can sell short on public companies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Investors and Traders&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; SpaceX is a company that has been in the public eye for a decade or more, even as a privately owned enterprise, partly because of its social media boosters and partly because its space launches make it a magnet for attention. There are many who are drawn to the company, but unable to invest in it as a private business, will now have a chance to do so, if it goes public. But should they try to partake in the initial offering? The answer to that question&amp;nbsp; depends on whether you are an investor, where you buy (sell) companies that you believe are trading under (over) their assessment of value and hope the gap closes or a trader, where you buy (sell) companies where you expect prices to go up (down) in the future, for a multitude of reasons, only some of which may relate to company fundamentals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I am more investor than trader, and I say that without judgment, since the end game in markets is to make money, not score intellectual points. The truth is that I am not a very good trader, and I am better off staying in my preferred domain, which is valuation, albeit with no guarantees of a payoff.&amp;nbsp; My valuation of SpaceX was driven by my interest in the company and belief that it is in unique, cutting-edge businesses, and my decision on whether to buy into the offering is therefore driven by my assessment of its value. At the rumored pricing of $1.8 trillion for the company, it is too richly priced for my tastes, given my valuation of $1.25-$1.35 trillion for the equity in the company. That does not mean that I will never buy the stock, since the market does change its mind, and if the price does drop by enough, my decision would change accordingly. It is worth remembering that Facebook was selling at half its offering price a few months after its IPO, and that Uber lost more than 50% of its market cap in the year after its public offering, moving both companies from over to under valued.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you are a trader, though, the game changes. Specifically, the intrinsic value of the company is not central to your decision, perhaps even irrelevant, and your judgment on whether you seek to partake in the SpaceX offering will depend on your reading of market mood and momentum. I would not be surprised in the least to see the offering priced at $1.8 trillion, and see a jump in the price on the day of or in the weeks after the offering, and if that is your most likely scenario, being able to get into the offering at the offer price or even in the first few hours or days of trading will be a winning strategy. The risk, of course, is that momentum can shift quickly, causing a significant price drop, effectively making&amp;nbsp; timing your trades right key to your trading strategy.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The shifting and often unpredictable forces of mood and momentum are also the reason that as an investor, I would not sell short, notwithstanding my value assessment, even if the pricing for the company pushes from $1.8 trillion to $2 trillion or more.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Loaded Bet on AI!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As the IPO process for SpaceX heats up in the coming weeks, you should prepare yourself for a flood of selling from the company and its bankers, with talk of possibilities and potential dominating the discussion, as well as arguments from the other side, where it will be framed as a vehicle for AI hype, destined to fail. If you are on the receiving end of these sales pitches, you should listen but check the numbers for plausibility and make your own judgments. For the bankers involved and the issuing company, the biggest danger to a successful offering is not that there will be near-term reality checks on their hype, but that the market mood will shift, either in the aggregate or specifically related to AI, in the weeks leading up to the offering.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;No matter what your views are about the SpaceX IPO, positive or negative, there is no denying that this company is a loaded bet on the AI&amp;nbsp; and Elon Musk, and while that may concern some, there are others who will look at Musk&#39;s track record with Tesla and feel the odds are in their favor.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;YouTube&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/NQKIJU7TmTc?si=__MPO96NpKURiwbQ&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Attachments&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm&quot;&gt;SpaceX prospectus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/SpaceX2026IPOUpdated.xlsx&quot;&gt;Valuation of SpaceX, post-prospectus on 6/2/26&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Blog posts on SpaceX&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/04/to-trillion-dollars-and-beyond-spacex.html&quot;&gt;To a Trillion(s) and Beyond: A SpaceX Odyssey!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;f20c9b111e0d-a5ba-8d04-a9fa-c1724a20&quot; id=&quot;f20c9b111e0d-a5ba-8d04-a9fa-c1724a20&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/9217406089962531289/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/9217406089962531289' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/9217406089962531289'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/9217406089962531289'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/06/a-weeks-ago-i-assessed-value-of-spacex.html' title='Revisiting the SpaceX Valuation: A Post-Prospectus Update!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEuW3nTNChF_VBnzhoLIVr6pw3plk0yhN3WJpQBdC9LldKtR2VQ_X-hpMRzrSEgwLs5hgevDRoLZOH3om1JnjmJGpfuZlV4DE7BzVY80aooXH4KLOromWz88Tb7ucSl6mq-r974f0FHdsRiZmGYo82MMkP8OOpiWkI90iv5YNlwWO_ja7xrV19vWceiuI/s72-w400-h89-c/DataUpdateTable.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-176784789230388054</id><published>2026-05-06T17:47:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2026-05-06T17:47:16.018-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="CEO"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Corporate Life Cycle"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Management Transition"/><title type='text'>An Ode to Restraint: Lessons from the Tim Cook Legacy</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Through time, we have glorified conquerors and empire builders in politics, civic life and business, from Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan to the tech titans of today. That is no surprise, since these individuals have oversized personas and often change the course of history, but it is also true that this glorification of empire building has shortcomings. The first is the deification of these heroes comes with whitewashing of the dark sides and the costs of empire building. The second is that we discount and undervalue those who make contributions to societal or business advances, but do so quietly and with little fanfare. It is in this context that I was drawn to the story of Tim Cook stepping down as Apple CEO, after a tenure of fifteen years atop a company that has been among the top market cap companies in the world for much of that period. While Steve Jobs, his predecessor as CEO at Apple, has now been deified in business circles, as an unparalleled visionary and business builder, and deservedly so, I think that Tim Cook, in many ways, has played just as significant a role in molding the company into its current day standing, with far less recognition.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Apple&#39;s CEOs: From Scott to Jobs to Cook!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Unfair though this may seem, the Tim Cook story at Apple has to start with Steve Jobs. Jobs co-founded the company in 1976, with Steve Wozniak, and while the company went through a series of CEOs in the next two decades, Jobs was the face of the company in its early years. While it is easy, with the benefit of hindsight, to view these as good years for the company, those early years reflected both Job&#39;s strengths and weaknesses. His vision and force of personality gave rise to the personal computer in its current form, as a tool for everyone to use, not just tech geeks, and as someone who bought his first Mac (the 128K without a hard drive) in 1984, and has stayed a Mac user since, I am grateful. That said, the dark side of Jobs, manifested in impatience with underlings and an obstinate belief that he knew what customers needed better than they did, led to the &lt;a href=&quot;https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-lisa-apples-most-influential-failure/&quot;&gt;Lisa, the only Mac I regretted buying almost immediately after my purchase&lt;/a&gt;, and a loss of business markets to Microsoft. Those failures led Apple to the brink of failure, and to Jobs being cast out of the company by its board in 1985, though the CEOs that followed had neither the strategic vision nor the business-building capacity to rescue the company.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In 1997, Apple looked like it was a company heading into oblivion, as Windows became the dominant operating system for personal computers, and it seemed like Apple had lost its purpose. The August 1997 return of Steve Jobs,, who had used his years in the wilderness to build Pixar, a company that revolutionized animated movie making, is now the stuff of legend, as he rebuilt Apple in the ensuing years into a powerhouse, around the iPod, the iPad and most of all the iPhone. While there are books and movies chronicling the Steve Jobs success story, it is worth asking what the difference was between the first iteration of Steve Jobs at Apple (from founding to leaving in 1985), where Apple lost ground to Microsoft, and the second iteration of Steve Jobs (from his return in late 1997 until his resignation in 2011). The first was that &lt;i&gt;he was older,&lt;/i&gt; and to the extent that with age comes some wisdom, it helped, but it is unlikely to have been the change maker. The second was that in his period away from Apple, J&lt;i&gt;obs created and built up other companies, with Pixar being the biggest&lt;/i&gt;, where he learned to deal with people better and perhaps compromise a bit more than he used to. The third was that he benefited from&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;the presence of Tim Cook&lt;/i&gt;, first as an executive in Apple sales and operations, and more importantly, as chief operating officer (COO) for Apple, starting in 2005. If Steve&#39;s skill was vision, where he showcased Apple&#39;s next &quot;big innovation&quot; at meetings in his trademark black turtleneck, Cook&#39;s skill was building manufacturing hubs and supply chains to convert the vision to products. That separation of vision from business building created the Apple juggernaut in the first decade of this century. While that division of labor clearly was in the company&#39;s best interests, Jobs deserves credit for being willing to set his ego aside and delegate the powers to make it happen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Tim Cook has been CEO for fifteen years, and when he retires on September 1, 2026, &lt;i&gt;he will have been the longest serving CEO at Apple&lt;/i&gt;. It cannot have been easy, especially in the early years, as the comparisons to Steve Jobs were front and center, and there was pressure on him to continue in the same path. To Cook&#39;s credit, he never tried to be Jobs, and he created a very different template for himself, one that fit him and the company well, and served as a testimonial to his self assurance. In one of my talks about a decade ago about Apple, I described Cook, perhaps harshly, as a man without a visionary bone in his body, but one who would make sure that the trains ran on time (or the iPhones were delivered as promised), and I think that he has used that strength to good effect during his years as CEO of the company.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Apple&#39;s Finances in the Twenty First Century: The Steve Jobs and Tim Cook Years!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Steve Jobs handed over a company to Tim Cook in 2011, that was extraordinarily profitable, and at the time of his leaving, already the largest market cap company in the world. While that fact leads some to discount what Cook has done at Apple since, I think it is worth going back in history and looking at corporate handoffs of great companies, and how often they become tangled messes, as new CEOs overreach and overpromise.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The place to begin our comparison of the Jobs and Cook tenures is by charting Apple&#39;s market capitalization, with the delineation into the Jobs years (1998-2011) and the Cook years (2012-2026):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj09Da7P3QT29v3AW_PHc8hvDbX7KL_A35dEdQLWCKGJ1SiZgQ5EbbE7siTHbgWqRm3CcZuAsQYm0nFbOMxiy5gkHJecWgeZ351OC8R7zV-6qfABH-0fi4xlJEgR5sK8OVZA7hjXoQo1h5IqE2vadN4YYnaQB-LcSZ3htcSqX0mxFhjW-t711aruTDYJrg/s1786/AppleMktCapChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1306&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1786&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj09Da7P3QT29v3AW_PHc8hvDbX7KL_A35dEdQLWCKGJ1SiZgQ5EbbE7siTHbgWqRm3CcZuAsQYm0nFbOMxiy5gkHJecWgeZ351OC8R7zV-6qfABH-0fi4xlJEgR5sK8OVZA7hjXoQo1h5IqE2vadN4YYnaQB-LcSZ3htcSqX0mxFhjW-t711aruTDYJrg/w400-h293/AppleMktCapChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Looking across the aggregated years across both CEOs, it has been an extraordinary time. Apple began the Jobs tenure as CEO with a market cap of $1.68 billion, and by the end of 2025, its market cap had risen to over $4 trillion, and its performance burnishes the reputations of both Jobs and Cook. Jobs provided the foundational boost for the company and the innovations he presided over delivered a &lt;i&gt;compounded annual price appreciation of 47.19% between 1997 and 2011,&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;a period when US equities were struggling and Apple reached the top of the market cap table in 2011. With Tim Cook at the helm, Apple added an astounding $3.64 trillion in market cap, but a strong equity market provided strong tailwinds, and the company&#39;s annual returns were more modest.&amp;nbsp; On a percentage return basis, the Jobs years were better, but in my view, the fact that the annual returns in the Cook years were just as impressive, because they had to be earned on a much larger firm.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The reasons for Apple&#39;s sustained increase in market capitalization were simple - &lt;i&gt;solid revenue growth and a profit machine that delivered high margins,&lt;/i&gt; even as the company scaled up:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhl4gZ4J6JMZpNcQPlaZ9aNOJcSgg8Rn_QUHWok2LHD3lx0hnatRC8UdPAjn0Us1RBDPa9RAj6EDqYRXm0ikJ81O7BEDhV-7rS3sXy2UlXWdulTIfrZJugRF_Hi4UHJn3z7XOzN4ektO3msdSxMJ8LoQjJXZe5d2gZnoecT8YP3fQXvsHH17cY3odY8QmI/s1816/AppleOperationsChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1640&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1816&quot; height=&quot;361&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhl4gZ4J6JMZpNcQPlaZ9aNOJcSgg8Rn_QUHWok2LHD3lx0hnatRC8UdPAjn0Us1RBDPa9RAj6EDqYRXm0ikJ81O7BEDhV-7rS3sXy2UlXWdulTIfrZJugRF_Hi4UHJn3z7XOzN4ektO3msdSxMJ8LoQjJXZe5d2gZnoecT8YP3fQXvsHH17cY3odY8QmI/w400-h361/AppleOperationsChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As with the market capitalization comparisons, this chart yields metrics that are favorable to both Jobs and Cook. Under Jobs, the company scaled up its revenues significantly, with a compounded annual revenue growth rate of 23.67% between 1997 and 2011, and just as significantly, went from posting subpar margins and a net loss in 1997 to becoming one of the most profitable tech companies in the world, Under Cook, revenue growth rates came down (to a compounded annual average of 8.52% between 2012 and 2025), but on a much larger scale, and the company preserved and grew its profit margins.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There was one corporate finance dimension on which Cook deviated from Jobs, and that was on cash return or dividend policy. In the chart below, I look at the cash returned to shareholders by Apple during the tenures of the two CEOs:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjkrSWU7b32sRVs9_hHsS2LWr4EdTqmm_S9DArUyjd15dLBFCDLL2Q4i-0i69746Wgy2UuI9MAKdBlZDz_Sz87wu2V-H_cRKU8vMJh0yOVHKXgYBkTQrfXY-VGiiuCJAVv-TLqyPiPu0SReXVQ7IWtXpUMA2ULd5W7liMqvp1AXhQ0DdM7y40fV-PmHUhM/s1804/AppleCashReturn.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1322&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1804&quot; height=&quot;294&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjkrSWU7b32sRVs9_hHsS2LWr4EdTqmm_S9DArUyjd15dLBFCDLL2Q4i-0i69746Wgy2UuI9MAKdBlZDz_Sz87wu2V-H_cRKU8vMJh0yOVHKXgYBkTQrfXY-VGiiuCJAVv-TLqyPiPu0SReXVQ7IWtXpUMA2ULd5W7liMqvp1AXhQ0DdM7y40fV-PmHUhM/w400-h294/AppleCashReturn.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;During Job&#39;s tenure at Apple, the company paid no dividends and initiated only modest cash buybacks, mostly to cover stock-based compensations. With Tim Cook as CEO, Apple was one of the greatest corporate cash success stories of all time, initiating dividends in 2012 and increasing them over time, and supplementing those dividends with cash buybacks that, in the aggregate, were the largest in corporate history. &lt;i&gt;In sum, the company has bought back almost $800 billion between 2012 and 2025, and the most astonishing feature was that, while returning all of this cash, the company also accumulated one of the largest corporate cash balances in history.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;To the question of how Apple was able to return this much cash, increase its cash balance and still grow itself, the answers are three fold. The first is that the iPhone, perhaps the most valuable single product in business history, continued to deliver for the company, with modest reinvestment needed on its upgrades.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlDWuvAxty1iAzBV2G8syAoHWc79VHvTWe9pa_QNedvo5HfeWHmPRp_RaKyoZMBh-PbpVNOIaZiDrPelfMJFsVV0viN3gPn3fljmtQszZ-66UAkQlbV7OzNzVaMeV-DROzhE6loXCXaD7bCGKyQaKu_BVKDXNCqku_Uvhat1Ltm9OVTsR5zyoQrCfuAOc/s1822/iPhoneChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1302&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1822&quot; height=&quot;286&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlDWuvAxty1iAzBV2G8syAoHWc79VHvTWe9pa_QNedvo5HfeWHmPRp_RaKyoZMBh-PbpVNOIaZiDrPelfMJFsVV0viN3gPn3fljmtQszZ-66UAkQlbV7OzNzVaMeV-DROzhE6loXCXaD7bCGKyQaKu_BVKDXNCqku_Uvhat1Ltm9OVTsR5zyoQrCfuAOc/w400-h286/iPhoneChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While much of the credit for the iPhone is still given to Steve Jobs, and rightly so for fostering the innovation, credit is also due to Cook, who has taken the franchise handed to him, and grown it on steroids. The second is that the company borrowed $17 billion in 2013, a Cook departure from a Jobs practice of avoiding debt, and it has added to that debt load over time, though it remains a small slice of overall value:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgd3w0z7rz4GMcn0ZQw3jb3oieGPIEZfCggn8oFjkWzgaXmTayb5b0wKsdqkLjoSAKiHDN3plcawG2TscHezByw3zCqLZvDd9rMRTcX8Yxxo81ewtjkg9I8Sq92oVDTKlauFogP4ITDkcvjmUzzFUy7PopFsOz49EqiGYCX8wlgxgogD10avDpCfGUHlNk/s1818/AppleDebtChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1314&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1818&quot; height=&quot;289&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgd3w0z7rz4GMcn0ZQw3jb3oieGPIEZfCggn8oFjkWzgaXmTayb5b0wKsdqkLjoSAKiHDN3plcawG2TscHezByw3zCqLZvDd9rMRTcX8Yxxo81ewtjkg9I8Sq92oVDTKlauFogP4ITDkcvjmUzzFUy7PopFsOz49EqiGYCX8wlgxgogD10avDpCfGUHlNk/w400-h289/AppleDebtChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While much is made of Apple&#39;s debt foray, it is worth recognizing that &lt;i&gt;Apple is still a very lightly indebted company on any debt metric,&lt;/i&gt; and that if you net the company&#39;s considerable cash balance out against its total debt, &lt;i&gt;its net debt has always been negative (cash exceeds debt)&lt;/i&gt;. In fact, Apple&#39;s use of debt is so light that the only rationale for its existence is creating a presence in the bond market, just in case it needs to use it more in the future. The third feature is that the company has been cautious in its forays into new products and markets, especially outside its domain, and this shows&amp;nbsp; up in two data series.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The first is that while Apple has acquired more than a hundred companies, &lt;i&gt;almost all of them are small, private technology companies with small price tags&lt;/i&gt;, with the intent being bringing their products and services into the Apple ecosystem after the acquisition. In fact, its largest acquisitions during this century are so small that they represent petty cash, relative to its cash balance as a company. Beats, for instance, which was one of Apple&#39;s biggest acquisitions cost the company about $3 billion, a number dwarfed by its cash balance that year, which was more than $100 billion.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The second is that in the last five years, as big tech companies have gone on an AI capital expenditure binge, &lt;i&gt;Apple has been the outlier, holding back on its AI investments&lt;/i&gt;, and this can be seen in the chart below, where I compare Apple&#39;s capital expenditures to those of the rest of the Mag Seven: &lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbEtX_7UoI1YKYaWNJBkfBPEvHXA7__JYsT1V883JV2UfBJRxMQziAmCXdVRLk1Ob1SCMmn4EdMJQilBMTJaokBnVLwfD8wkXxqP5GnMpBMuMtX0jF9Zh1ghkM9gsktO2WwBgthmXRGqKqse0vwKbL1V6sacONPmTqF4030Y6b39Ybv8WP8-rLErVXqTo/s1802/AppleCapExchart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1314&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1802&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbEtX_7UoI1YKYaWNJBkfBPEvHXA7__JYsT1V883JV2UfBJRxMQziAmCXdVRLk1Ob1SCMmn4EdMJQilBMTJaokBnVLwfD8wkXxqP5GnMpBMuMtX0jF9Zh1ghkM9gsktO2WwBgthmXRGqKqse0vwKbL1V6sacONPmTqF4030Y6b39Ybv8WP8-rLErVXqTo/w400-h291/AppleCapExchart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the rest of the group has ramped up its capital investments, with much of it going into AI, Apple has held back, and its share of the total cap ex at the companies has fallen from 8.04% to 3.02% over the period.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In sum, looking at the changes at Apple over the last fifteen years, t&lt;i&gt;he company has changed from the growth engine, driven by disruptions, in the Jobs years to a mature, cash-returning and more cautious company under Cook.&lt;/i&gt; I have posted more about Apple than about any other company in the world (and I have a sampling of some of those posts at the end of this post) and have been a shareholder in the company for significant portions of both the Jobs and Cook tenures. I have not always agreed with either man, on choices that they have made at the company, but I respected both of them enough to view them as good stewards of my investment. In a world full of CEOs who are quick to herd to what the consensus view is, I admire both men for their willingness to stand on their beliefs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Vision or Restraint: A Life Cycle Perspective&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;If you were to create a profile of Tim Cook, the manager, based upon the choices that he has made at Apple during his tenure as CEO, two very divergent views emerge. To his admirers, his actions on some fronts (initiating dividends, massive stock buybacks, borrowing money) and inaction on other fronts (no big acquisitions, diffidence on AI investments), &lt;i&gt;represent an exercise in discipline and restraint,&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; preserving the company&#39;s crown jewel (the iPhone) and fending off the bankers and consultants, with their false promises.&amp;nbsp; To his critics, and there are quite a few, Cook&#39;s caution has cost Apple its disruptor status, when it could have used its ample cash reserves to buy its way or invest in into almost every new business that has bloomed in the last fifteen years. In fact, they point to chances that Apple has had to buy some of the biggest stars in the market, from Tesla and Netflix more than a decade ago to Anthropic, Mistral and Perplexity in more recent years.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It is impossible to argue that one side is right and the other side wrong, but it is undeniable that both pathways (the restrained pathway that Apple adopted and the more aggressive pathway that it could have taken) include trade offs. It is true that Apple&#39;s restraint has led it to miss out on some of the biggest trends in technology over the last decade, but it has also avoided the overpayment that is so common with high profile acquisitions of big companies. The argument that Apple would be worth a lot more today if it had bought Netflix or Tesla a decade ago falls flat for two reasons. The first is the selection bias in picking two companies that, in hindsight, have emerged as winners, when in fact there were at least a dozen other worse-performing companies that were also on Apple&#39;s radar. The second is the presumption that companies like Tesla or Netflix would have been just as successful, owned by Apple, as they were as stand alone enterprises. The clash of corporate cultures that would have ensued if Apple had bought either Tesla, a company that reinvents its business narrative every few hours, or Netflix, an entity that makes content in quantity with the hope that some it sticks, would have been epic, with the risk that both Apple and its acquired target would have gone down in flames.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; More generally, though, the question of whether you want a visionary or a disciplined business builder at the top of a firm is not one that has an easy answer, since it depends on the firm in question. In my work on corporate life cycles, I focus on the management skills that are needed most in a company, based upon where it is the life cycle, and that may help address the choice between vision and restraint:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEja_5y-35gtFY8bVpAFPrq3s1ca_PQintRCcThk0pOmlTpcYwhXwIsOkwOlYDG04b_hQbEdVycc8UAlZ49FZ2PbHKDdo5qIflwD36Fzmx-JhBrxRYakRUpBJX0WpKT4uZp9FX-eX0y4WHPwWIHYPrfMUjBt74lnjhyphenhyphenfyQufewvjFF_w_pKI5TH0_P0ypYY/s736/LifecycleCEO.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;556&quot; data-original-width=&quot;736&quot; height=&quot;303&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEja_5y-35gtFY8bVpAFPrq3s1ca_PQintRCcThk0pOmlTpcYwhXwIsOkwOlYDG04b_hQbEdVycc8UAlZ49FZ2PbHKDdo5qIflwD36Fzmx-JhBrxRYakRUpBJX0WpKT4uZp9FX-eX0y4WHPwWIHYPrfMUjBt74lnjhyphenhyphenfyQufewvjFF_w_pKI5TH0_P0ypYY/w400-h303/LifecycleCEO.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With young companies, &lt;b&gt;vision dominates,&lt;/b&gt; as managers work to sway investors, employees and nascent customers that their product or service will find a market. As the vision takes hold, converting it into commercial products and services requires trading off some portions of vision for &lt;b&gt;pragmatism, &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;in the interest of getting the business going&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;As products and services find demand among customers, &lt;b&gt;business building&lt;/b&gt; becomes a key difference-maker, with the grunt work of marketing, production facilities and supply chains coming into play. Assuming that you have made it through these three stages, the trade offs of scaling up come into focus, and as you hit market limits, success depends on &lt;b&gt;being opportunistic&lt;/b&gt; in finding new products and markets, but only if they exist. In corporate middle age, pathways to easy growth, especially at scale, become difficult to find, and to the extent that value comes from moats and core products, &lt;b&gt;playing defense&lt;/b&gt; against competitors takes priority. Finally, in decline, a phase that no company ever wants to enter, but is inevitable at some point, you need to be willing to &lt;b&gt;shrink a firm&lt;/b&gt;, shutting down businesses that no longer deliver value and selling other assets to high bidders.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Given these very divergent management functions, it should come as no surprise that there is no prototype for the perfect CEO, McKinsey and Harvard Business School blueprints notwithstanding. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Viewed in this framework, I would argue that Apple has been lucky with its last two CEOs, both in terms of persona and in terms of sequence. When Steve Jobs rejoined Apple in 1997, the company had hit rock bottom, and with little to offer in liquidation, his vision allowed for a reincarnation, with disruptions leading the way, and as we noted earlier in this post, having a strong chief operating officer in Tim Cook made the difference. The Apple that Tim Cook inherited, when he became CEO, was a very different entity, already the world&#39;s largest market cap company, with a superlative franchise in the iPhone. In corporate life cycle terms, Apple was a mature growth company, and what Cook lacked in opportunism , he made up for by defending Apple&#39;s biggest product line(iPhone) and augmenting value with increments like the app store and devices. That said, while each of these men created value for shareholders, I don&#39;t think that either would be regarded as highly, if you swapped their tenures in terms of timing. I don&#39;t think Tim Cook would have been able to bring Apple from its near-demise to being on top of the corporate universe, if he had become CEO in 1997, and I think Steve Jobs would have been ill-suited to the Apple that was in existence in 2011.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Aging, Management Mismatches and Corporate Governance&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2021/12/managing-across-corporate-life-cycle.html&quot;&gt;a post from a few years ago&lt;/a&gt;, I used the connection between CEO type and corporate lifecycle to examine why management mismatches occur at firms, and the consequences of that mismatch. Specifically, there are three confounding factors that can make matching up CEO to company, given where it is in the life cycle, complicated:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Like humans, companies age, but unlike humans, &lt;b&gt;the rates at which different companies go through the life cycle can be wildly different&lt;/b&gt;. An infrastructure or manufacturing company can take decades to become operational, followed by extended phases of growth and maturity, before going into decline. In contrast, &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-compressed-tech-life-cycle.html&quot;&gt;a tech company&lt;/a&gt; can have explosive growth early in its life, spend a brief period enjoying the fruits of its success as a mature company before declining precipitously. As a consequence, managers and investors who use chronological age as their corporate aging metric can misjudge where they are on the life cycle.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;While aging is inevitable for both humans and businesses, some mature or even declining &lt;b&gt;businesses can find pathways, either through happenstance or management choices, to rediscover their youth&lt;/b&gt;. These businesses become the stuff of legend, and they are the subjects of books and business school case studies, and their CEOs are elevated to management deities.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The narratives built around companies that reincarnate and the CEOs atop these companies also &lt;b&gt;feed into management incentives and behavior.&lt;/b&gt; The story of Steve Jobs at Apple has been told and retold, but it is worth remembering that for every story of reincarnation, there are a hundred stories you can tell about other CEOs who tried to follow the Apple playbook, spending billions on reinventing their companies, with little to show in terms of payoffs. (See my posts on &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2014/05/yahoo-puzzle-mystery-and-enigma.html&quot;&gt;Marissa Mayer at Yahoo! &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-walking-dead-blackberry-yahoo-and.html&quot;&gt;on Blackberry&lt;/a&gt;.) In essence, the glorification of CEOs who bet big on turnarounds at mature or declining companies, and win, sets up CEOs facing similar circumstances to behave like riverboat gamblers, when making management choices at their firms. After all, if their bets pay off, they join the legend crowd, and if they do not, they contend that they did their best, and that circumstances conspired to bring them down.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;The bottom line is that there are a number of ways in which you can end up with CEO mismatches - a CEO who cannot adapt to the changing demands of an aging business, a hiring mistake or even changes in the macro environment, and when those mismatches occur, is is inevitable that there will be friction between the CEO and shareholders. In a sense, almost all corporate governance challenges can be traced back to management mismatches, and the power (or the absence of it) that shareholders have to fix those mismatches:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEixpWZTtBNwUB31yRTblSr_5tpSQnQZr_sEgKxQ8S9aykcKmJQwrMAesX3stxTR6bcm8Rjntqi16SywiDpfOhzVjWX4haqJrOMbDnPXNhGf8oBL1R5dvUQ-YLWws7_X84HmbsROLVI07Zy5X5ir45N7b7dns0B1QKAJta6rvE_uRyxyg8Pq-IYjpYcVrBI/s754/MgmtMismatches.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;600&quot; data-original-width=&quot;754&quot; height=&quot;319&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEixpWZTtBNwUB31yRTblSr_5tpSQnQZr_sEgKxQ8S9aykcKmJQwrMAesX3stxTR6bcm8Rjntqi16SywiDpfOhzVjWX4haqJrOMbDnPXNhGf8oBL1R5dvUQ-YLWws7_X84HmbsROLVI07Zy5X5ir45N7b7dns0B1QKAJta6rvE_uRyxyg8Pq-IYjpYcVrBI/w400-h319/MgmtMismatches.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;While Tim Cook&#39;s time as CEO of Apple is now seen through rose-colored lens, it is worth remembering that Apple was targeted repeated early in his tenure by activist investors. While some of the changes that these activists were pushing for were warranted, some were not, and Cook deserves credit for not capitulating. Carl Icahn, for instance, wanted Apple to increase its debt substantially, borrowing hundreds of billions, but I &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2021/12/managing-across-corporate-life-cycle.html&quot;&gt;took issue with his argument that Apple could borrow this money at the low rates that he was extrapolating&lt;/a&gt;. A couple of years later, David Einhorn made his play, arguing that Apple should issue preferred shares with a 4% dividend yield, and I&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2021/12/managing-across-corporate-life-cycle.html&quot;&gt; noted that preferred stock could bring with it all of the cashflow commitments of debt, with none of the tax advantages&lt;/a&gt;. I have long argued that the best defense a management has against activist investors is delivering superior performance and returns, and Tim Cook delivered on both dimensions, and faced little more than sniping from disgruntled investors in his later years as CEO. In the last four years, the criticism has come primarily from analysts who fault his caution, and argue that Apple risks falling behind its more aggressive competitors in the AI race, but here again, Cook has stood his ground.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Management Transitions, Past and Present - The Mag Seven&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;I don&#39;t envy &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-ternus-2392b76/&quot;&gt;John Ternus, who is Cook&#39;s heir apparent,&lt;/a&gt; because he is following two CEOs who were immensely successful, albeit in different ways. If there are lessons he can learn from both Jobs and Cook, they include the following:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Find your own path&lt;/u&gt;: There will be pressure from some investors to be just like Jobs, and go for big disruptions, or from others to imitate Tim Cook, and leave Apple as a cash machine. While it may take time, Ternus has to find his own path as CEO, based on not only what he brings to the table, given his background in computer hardware, but on what Apple&#39;s strengths are as a company in 2026 and the markets it is facing right now.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Adapt to the company you are managing&lt;/u&gt;: Just as the Apple that Jobs took over in 1997 was very different from the Apple that he handed over to Cook in 2011, the company that Ternus takes over is different from the ones handed over in either of the prior iterations. When you are at the helm of one of the largest market cap companies in the world, you have to start with the recognition that any new product or service that you introduce will have to be huge to make a dent in the operating metrics (revenues and profits) or market capitalization. In addition, the franchise that holds up the company&#39;s cash machine is the iPhone, and Ternus cannot afford to take his eyes of that prize.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Keep the feedback loop open&lt;/u&gt;: When you are a company worth trillions, with legions of shareholders, and hundreds of analysts, you will have advice meted to you constantly on what you should or should not do. Much of that advice will be bad, and should be dismissed, but some of it is worth listening to and perhaps converted into policy. In addition, as CEO, I hope that Ternus views the market price as a crowd judgment on Apple&#39;s actions rather than the product of speculation, and accepts that while that judgment can be wrong, it should be taken seriously.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;I wish Mr. Ternus the best, for purely selfish reasons. As a Mac and Apple device user, I want the company to prosper and continue to make products that I can continue to use on a daily basis, and as a shareholder, I want my investment to do well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The attention, in this post has been on the management transition at Apple, but management transitions are part and parcel of every company, with the changes sometimes forced on the company and sometimes voluntary. Expanding the discussion of management to the other companies in the Mag Seven can provide us with an opportunity to examine management transitions that have either already happened or that will happen in the future, and the ensuing frictions:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;At Microsoft&lt;/b&gt;, the only company in this group that traces its vintage back to Apple, there have been two CEO transitions, from Bill Gates to Steve Ballmer in 2000, and from Ballmer to Satya Nadella in 2014. While Gates built Office and Windows into cash cows, and Ballmer preserved them, Nadella created his own pathway to reincarnation by building up a cloud business that is now the dominant source of revenues for the company. By partnering early with OpenAI on LLMs, and investing massively in data centers, Nadella is now making a bet that AI can provide a further boost to the company&#39;s operations, perhaps setting the stage for a second rebirth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Amazon has seen a management transition&lt;/b&gt;, where a legendary founder (Bezos) left the firm in 2021, and his successor (Andy Jassy) has taken the reins, with remarkably little fanfare. Like Nadella, though, Jassy is betting big on AI being a growth and value driver, and the success or failure of that bet will largely determine how his stint as CEO gets judged.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Alphabet offers a case study of a company that tried to split the difference&lt;/b&gt;, by separating its cash cow (Google advertising) from its other businesses, naming Sundar Pichai as the CEO for Google, while remaining atop the other Google businesses (the bets in Alphabet). That experiment has struggled to deliver, as the other businesses remained earth-bound and in 2019, and Pichai took over as CEO of Alphabet as well. Over its lifetime, Alphabet has been immensely successful in coming up with products and services that catch public attention, whether it be its development of the Android operating system or its work on Waymo or Gemini, but it has struggled to convert those successes into revenues and operating profits.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I&lt;b&gt;n three of the companies (Tesla, Meta and Nvidia), founders remain CEOs, though they bring very different perspectives and personalities into their roles&lt;/b&gt;. As I noted in my last post on SpaceX, Musk has veered between genius and eccentricity in his stewardship, but shareholders at Tesla have largely benefited from the rollercoaster ride. At Meta, Zuckerberg has been a shrewd businessperson in his management of his social media holdings, with savvy acquisitions of Instagram and Whatsapp boosting his ad-driven ecosystem, but he has also been headstrong in his pursuit of ventures that he feels are the &quot;next big thing&quot;.&amp;nbsp; His expensive failed bet on the Metaverse led some investors to question his governance, and many of these investors worry that his bet on AI will play out similarly. Finally, on Nvidia, the company&#39;s soaring market capitalization and huge success with AI chips has pushed Jensen Huang into the spotlight, but less than a decade ago, there were questions about his management as well.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;The fact that &lt;b&gt;all six of these companies have invested heavily in AI is a lead-in to what could be the key test for management at all of them&lt;/b&gt;. If the AI investments pay off and deliver value, Nadella will cement his legend status, Jassy will have created his own legacy at Amazon, the Alphabet experiment will finally pay off, and the founder-run companies will have more room to run. If the AI investments fail, though, Nadella&#39;s reincarnation reputation will take a hit and Jassy&#39;s position atop Amazon will be at-risk. The AI failure will also raise doubts about Alphabet&#39;s capacity to grow beyond advertising and the rumblings about Zuckerberg&#39;s big bets will get louder, but at these two companies, it is unclear what investors, no matter how large their holdings are, can do, since they have acquiesced to a voting share structure at these two companies that has reduced them to bystander status. At Alphabet, Brin and Page control 51% of the voting rights, with less than 10% ownership, and at Meta, Zuckerberg controls 57% of the voting rights, with about 13% of share ownership.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;An Ode to Restraint&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While there are many who compare to Tim Cook to Steve Jobs and find him wanting on vision and flair, I am grateful, as an investor in Apple, for the restraint and discipline that he brought to the job. That gratitude will stay intact even if Apple&#39;s caution on AI turns out to be a mistake, since the restraint and rectitude that Cook brought to his job are management qualities that significantly undervalued. I don&#39;t teach from or write cases, but I would love to see more business school cases about CEOs like Cook who are not easily swayed by the temptation of more growth and ego-driven acquisitions. I loved the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2080374/&quot;&gt;Steve Jobs movie&lt;/a&gt;, but I don&#39;t expect to see a Tim Cook movie anytime soon, and while that is understandable, it also explains why we will continue to have too many CEOs at companies viewing themselves as saviors, gambling shareholder money on turnarounds and rescues, when the better pathway would be acceptance and shrinkage. I believe that investors lose more money from companies trying to do too much rather than from them doing too little, and from overreaching than from underachieving.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/ig2ewJ9wx2Y?si=oNetW1TNsT13Bm6a&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;My posts on Apple&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/03/apple-thoughts-on-bias-value-excess.html&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/03/apple-thoughts-on-bias-value-excess.html&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/03/apple-thoughts-on-bias-value-excess.html&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/03/apple-thoughts-on-bias-value-excess.html&quot;&gt;Apple: Thoughts on Bias, Value, Excess Cash &amp;amp; Dividends&lt;/a&gt; (March 1, 2012)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/04/apple-holding-versus-folding.html&quot;&gt;Apple: Know when to hold &#39;em, know when to fold &#39;em&lt;/a&gt; (April 3, 2012)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/04/emotions-intrinsic-value-and-dividend.html&quot;&gt;Emotions, Intrinsic value and Dividend Clienteles: The Apple postscript&lt;/a&gt; (April 6, 2012)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/08/apples-crown-jewel-valuing-iphone.html&quot;&gt;Apple&#39;s Crown Jewel: Valuing the iPhone Franchise&lt;/a&gt; (August 29, 2012)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-year-in-review-apples-universe.html&quot;&gt;The Year in Review: Apple&#39;s Universe (December 2012)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2013/01/are-you-value-investor-apple-test.html&quot;&gt;Are you a value investor? Take the Apple Test! (January 2013)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2013/02/apple-redux-thoughts-on-value-price-and.html&quot;&gt;Back to Apple: Thoughts on value, price and the confidence gap&lt;/a&gt; (February 7, 2013)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2013/02/financial-alchemy-david-einhorns-value.html&quot;&gt;Financial Alchemy: David Einhorn&#39;s value play for Apple&lt;/a&gt; (February 8, 2013)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2013/04/apple-calm-after-storm.html&quot;&gt;Apple: News, Noise and Value (April 30, 2013)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2013/09/love-company-love-product-love-stock.html&quot;&gt;Love the company! Love the product! Love the stock!&lt;/a&gt; (September 9, 2013)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2014/04/watch-gap-apples-long-and-twisted.html&quot;&gt;Watch the Gap: Apple&#39;s Long and Twisted Journey (April 2014)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2016/02/race-to-top-duel-between-alphabet-and.html&quot;&gt;The Race to the Top: The Duel between Alphabet and Apple &lt;/a&gt;(February 2016)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2021/12/managing-across-corporate-life-cycle.html&quot;&gt;Icahn exits, Buffett enters: Whither Apple (June 2016)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2017/02/apple-greatest-cash-machine-in-history.html&quot;&gt;Apple: The Greatest Cash Machine in History (February 2017)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2018/12/investing-whiplash-looking-for-closure.html&quot;&gt;Investor Whiplash: Looking for Closure with Apple and Alphabet (December 2018)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;My book on the corporate life cycle&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/Corporate-Lifecycle-Investment-Management-Implications/dp/0593545060&quot;&gt;The Corporate Life Cycle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/176784789230388054/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/176784789230388054' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/176784789230388054'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/176784789230388054'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/05/an-ode-to-restraint-lessons-from-tim.html' title='An Ode to Restraint: Lessons from the Tim Cook Legacy'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj09Da7P3QT29v3AW_PHc8hvDbX7KL_A35dEdQLWCKGJ1SiZgQ5EbbE7siTHbgWqRm3CcZuAsQYm0nFbOMxiy5gkHJecWgeZ351OC8R7zV-6qfABH-0fi4xlJEgR5sK8OVZA7hjXoQo1h5IqE2vadN4YYnaQB-LcSZ3htcSqX0mxFhjW-t711aruTDYJrg/s72-w400-h293-c/AppleMktCapChart.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-681009557050307392</id><published>2026-04-23T17:20:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2026-04-23T19:30:56.159-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="IPO"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Optionality"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Value of growth"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Valuing Young companies"/><title type='text'>To a Trillion(s) Dollars and beyond: A SpaceX IPO Odyssey!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In &lt;i&gt;2001, A Space Odyssey&lt;/i&gt;, a movie that was well ahead of its time when it was released in 1968, Hal (the computer) famously responded to questions about his reliability with “it (mstakes) can only be attributable to human error”. I was reminded of my fallibility repeatedly as I tried to value SpaceX ahead of its initial public offering, a market debut that is shaping up as a barn-burner for three reasons. The first is that in a market where there are many young companies all trying to claim to be futuristic in their offerings, SpaceX clearly stands out as the real thing, with rockets, satellites and AI all residing under its corporate umbrella. The second is that its founder (Elon Musk) is the richest person in the world, has upended one legacy business (autos), bought a social media company as a soapbox and made his presence felt&amp;nbsp; on the the political stage. Love him or hate him, Musk is definitely not boring, and his capacity to spin business narratives that seem outlandish at first hearing. but become conventional wisdom later, clearly adds to the allure of SpaceX. Third, if the private market pricing feeds into the public offering, SpaceX could very well become the most valuable IPO of all time, joining the rarefied list of trillion-dollar companies, on listing. That said, I may be getting a little ahead of the game here, because SpaceX has not filed a public prospectus yet, and little is known about its financials other that drabs of information that have been leaked to the press. I will forge on, nevertheless, with the stipulation that this is a first iteration, and that I will revisit it, as more information comes out about the firm’s financial standing and its IPO plans.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The History of SpaceX&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; You may be surprised to hear that SpaceX is older than Tesla, at least in terms of chronological age, founded on March 14, 2002, in El Segundo, California. At its founding, Musk stated its goals as reducing the costs of space transportation and travel to Mars, but was viewed as having little chance of success by the space establishment, composed then of government agencies (NASA) and a few defense firms (Boeing and Northrop Grumman). SpaceX applied the lessons of modular engineering from the software business and it launched Falcon 1, its first space launch vehicle in September 2008; that successful launch led to a NASA contract for $1.6 billion, and rescued the company from near bankruptcy. In subsequent years, SpaceX developed Falcon 9, a reusable and heavier vehicle, with the Dragon Spacecraft unit, and became the first commercial entity to deliver cargo to the International Space Station. In 2013, SpaceX launched its first mission for a private customer, and quickly secured a dominant market share of commercial launch contract market. In recent years, SpaceX has invested in an even more ambitious version (in terms of size and power) of reusable spacecraft with Starship, and while its first launch in 2023 exploded in space, the company is clearly moving towards making it functional.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Along the way, the company added to its business mix, first with The Boring Company, a&amp;nbsp; company that specialized in building tunnels that could be used to transport people, in 2017, before spinning it off as a separate entity. More significantly, in 2019, the company launched sixty Starlink satellites, with the end game of offering satellite-based internet&amp;nbsp; services to customers, especially in areas where conventional internet service was limited. That endeavor has now grown to include thousands of satellites and had more than ten million active subscribers spread across the world, at the end of 2025. In February 2026, the company created its third business arm, with its acquisition of xAI, the parent to Grok, the Musk-developed competitor in the LLM space.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; SpaceX had a slow start financially, as its initial years were spent developing the Falcon 1 rocket, and even after that development, the dependence on the US government and commercial satellite launchers resulted in revenues growing much more slowly than they did at Tesla, Musk&#39;s other high-profile creation. Even as late as 2021, SpaceX reported revenues of just over $2 billion, almost entirely from its launch business, but Starlink&#39;s subscriber based model has allowed revenues to increase more than five-fold since, reaching an estimated $15.6 billion in 2025, with just under 30% coming from the launch business ($4.1 billion) about the rest from Starlink subscriptions and related businesses ($11.4 billion); xAI, which was acquired in 2026, had subscription revenues of roughly $100 million in 2025.&amp;nbsp; Without full financials to back up the statement, it is estimated that SpaceX generated an EBITDA of $8 billion in 2025, though with depreciation and other expenses considered, it is not clear how much (if any) operating (or net) profits the company delivered during the year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;On the funding front, Elon Musk used a portion of his winnings ($180 million) from his PayPal exit as seed money ($100 million) for founding SpaceX, but the company has required multiple rounds of venture capital to fund its infrastructure needs. The first venture capital round of about $12 million was in 2002, but there have at least thirty additional infusions amounting to more than $12 billion. While SpaceX counts big name venture capitalists in its investing roster (Founders Fund, Andreessen Horowitz and Sequoia), it has also seen increasing investments from public equity investors such as Fidelity and public tech companies such as Google. &lt;i&gt;While these venture capital investments have diluted Musk&#39;s ownership over the years, he continues to own about 42% of the equity in the company, and with differential voting rights, close to 80% of the total voting rights in the company&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Valuing SpaceX&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;It is true that intrinsic valuation, at least in its discounted cash flow avatar, is much easier to do at companies that have many years of historical data and peer groups of companies in the same business, and there are some who view one or both as pre-requisites. If you adopt that point of view, it is easy to see why so many view SpaceX as a company that cannot be valued (yet), since you don&#39;t have access to even a single year of financials, let alone a long history, and there are no true competitors. In fact, it is likely that even if the financial statements are made public in a prospectus, most will continue to avoid valuing the company, using uncertainty about the future as an excuse.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;If you define intrinsic value as the value of a business based upon its capacity to generate cash flows in the future, there is nothing in that definition that requires either historical data or peer group information, and statistically, the fact that you face uncertainty or that you are missing information does not imply that you cannot make estimates, just that the estimates will be noisier..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;I have long argued that you can estimate the value of young companies with minimal data, as long as you build a valuation around a business narrative, and accept that this valuation will change, as circumstances do, and with SpaceX, I will get a chance to put this argument into practice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To value SpaceX, I consider each of its three core businesses separately since they differ not just on operating metrics, but also on the competition faced &amp;nbsp;in each one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The &lt;b&gt;launch business&lt;/b&gt;, which is where SpaceX was born, is still its most identifiable business, and frames the company&#39;s story not just as a futuristic company, but one that was able to overcome some of the most significant technological challenges of any start up and not just survive but thrive. SpaceX has established such a robust and &lt;a href=&quot;https://spacexstock.com/spacex-vs-competitors-launch-market-share-2025/&quot;&gt;long-standing cost advantage&lt;/a&gt; over its competitors in the business, stemming from its existing infrastructure investments and reusable rocket technology, that it had a market share in excess of 80% of the launch market in 2025. Its competition will come from some private and government-funded players, who may be able to capture market share, notwithstanding their higher costs, due to security and nationalistic concerns..&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Valuation narrative: The space launch market is estimated to be about $30 billion in 2026 and is expected to grow to $100 billion in 2036, as government and private business demand increases. SpaceX will continue to dominate the business, albeit with a slightly less dominant market share (70%, down from &amp;gt;80% in 2025) of the total market and as costs decrease with scale, operating margins will increase over time to 40%. (I am being conservative in my estimates, insofar as I am ignoring space travel and expanded business opportunities in space, but I don&#39;t think, at the moment, that either offers a viable path to augmenting revenues).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The &lt;b&gt;internet service business&lt;/b&gt;, built around Starlink, is the business that accounts for almost two thirds of the revenues of the company in 2025, and it builds on the infrastructure built for the launch business, since SpaceX has used it to launch thousands of satellites into space. At the end of 2025, Starlink had close to 10,000 satellites in space, about two thirds of the entire global count, and is adding to that number every month. That has allowed it to double its subscriber numbers to just over 10 million, in the last year, and while Amazon&#39;s acquisition of GlobalStar has brought a potential competitor into the mix, GlobalStar has a fraction of the satellites that Starlink does. The challenge for any satellite-based internet service provider is that notwithstanding the use of low-earth orbit (LEO) satellites to improve service, the broadband service lags more conventional internet technology (fiber optic and cable) in much of the world, leaving it (at least for the moment) with a niche market of rural areas, countries with damaged or no infrastructure and&amp;nbsp;people on the go (airplanes, trains and cars). Thus, while the total internet service market is estimated to be close to a trillion and a half dollars globally, in 2025, satellite-based service accounted for about 1% of that market, delivering under $15 billion in revenues, with StarLink having a dominant market share.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Valuation narrative: The satellite internet services market will continue to grow, as technology improves service quality and transit demand for better wifi grows, from $15 billion to $160 billion (from less than 1% to 10% of&amp;nbsp; of the internet service market) over the next decade. Starlink will see more competition, but its lead in satellites and capacity to use its launch business to get more into space, will give it a substantial advantage and a market share of 75% of the overall market). The cost of customer acquisition will ease over time, as business customers become a larger portion of the business, and operating margins will approach 60% in steady state, as the unit economics are very positive.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The L&lt;b&gt;arge Language Model (LLM) business&lt;/b&gt;, from the acquisition of xAI, has brought AI into the SpaceX story, and while that may add to the pricing excitement, Grok lags the other LLMs in terms of revenues and reach, for the moment. In terms of usage, Anthropic (with Claude), OpenAI (with ChatGPT) and Google (with Gemini) are not only more widely used than Grok, in business setting, but are further along in converting them into revenues. While Grok has been bundled into the X Premium subscriptions, and earned about $80 million in revenues in 2025, it seems to be focusing more on consumers and only on niche portions of the business market. This is the most diffuse and volatile of the three markets, in terms of potential market, since the potential market can run from the tens of billions (if they remain subscription-based) to hundreds of billions or even trillions (if they become replacements for human labor or massive productivity boosters). It is possible that Grok may concede the larger and more competitive business space to Claude and ChatGPT and focus instead on consumer subscriptions, giving it a smaller market, but one with less competition.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Valuation narrative: The overall LLM market will continue to grow, but more in business applications than in consumer apps, with the market size being determined by how well AI can replicate human labor and regulatory restrictions. xAI will target primarily consumer subscription revenues and niche business applications. That will give it smaller revenues ($80 billion in 2036) than its LLM competitors, but one with less competition and higher margins (50% operating margin), and less reinvestment as it avoids going head-to-head with Anthropic, OpenAI and Google for business use.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is undeniable that SpaceX, as a lead player in three fast-growing and volatile businesses, may be able to use its infrastructure to &lt;b&gt;expand each of these&amp;nbsp;businesses&lt;/b&gt;. The space launch business, which has generally focused on delivering commercial or government loads and satellites into outer space may become a springboard for space travel, for leisure, research or business.&amp;nbsp; With its satellite broadband offerings, the possibility exists that the technology and the reach will improve to a point where the service can compete with fiber-optic and cable broadband offerings, perhaps at much lower cost. With xAI, the possibility that Grok finds a way to outflank its LLM rivals, including Claude, Gemini and ChatGPT, in terms of business offerings may be low, but it does exist. The r&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/business/spacex-cursor-deal.html&quot;&gt;ecent acquisition of Cursor,&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;a young AI company in the coding space, suggests that xAI has not thrown in the towel on business applications. In truth, these are all options that may not be viable at the moment, but if they become viable, could add immense value.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Valuation narrative: This part of the story is built on the expansion options that SpaceX has to enter large markets, with low probability and high payoff. In a crude attempt to capture this part of the story, I will attach an expected revenue in 2036 to these other businesses of $50 billion and an operating margin of 30%. Since these expansion options, if they do exist, will not show up in the near future, the revenues from these options ramp up after year 6 (2032) in the valuation.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;Pulling these storylines together as valuation inputs, I estimate the following numbers for 2036, for the three business lines and for the expansion options category:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6-TotxwwKbQ7zzOB5EVwfwPf-mVnHT_5adjxJphNuV2Rrxso1bUXoDMt3WaTkTCpsvEeZ34qfL99fmnHBn-kDMPGBrYCuyePjVDx2mG8zhKtix8SlRLG28vL0rewIHAdDY9pTqfsSUNh8fl2Si1-xfl0RGRmlUcO4Vn5VOtkYiEV7UKaIqxRQdG8nKVo/s817/StoryforInputs.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;268&quot; data-original-width=&quot;817&quot; height=&quot;131&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6-TotxwwKbQ7zzOB5EVwfwPf-mVnHT_5adjxJphNuV2Rrxso1bUXoDMt3WaTkTCpsvEeZ34qfL99fmnHBn-kDMPGBrYCuyePjVDx2mG8zhKtix8SlRLG28vL0rewIHAdDY9pTqfsSUNh8fl2Si1-xfl0RGRmlUcO4Vn5VOtkYiEV7UKaIqxRQdG8nKVo/w400-h131/StoryforInputs.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; With these numbers in place, and using a cost of capital reflective of SpaceX&#39;s business mix (of aerospace/defense, telecom services and AI) of 8%, we can estimate the company&#39;s value:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNjbMP7M-OdKaD9vLXLsqSl1Qeaq9dCdpDcFn_CZsNVEgqzowXBlazDjNtNA-bvxlUnCkuQFaX608W64fssbVFRmXWeOM8S8PK3TH7kw_mhSOhggKm5oynuMm1LMYR6JiDnXi0pbOUmw4l7kXsGW_Q6VBENTO8QilqAHpMX5rvWZoPBhDv5-S6mW_WZyg/s810/SpaceXvalpicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;800&quot; data-original-width=&quot;810&quot; height=&quot;395&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNjbMP7M-OdKaD9vLXLsqSl1Qeaq9dCdpDcFn_CZsNVEgqzowXBlazDjNtNA-bvxlUnCkuQFaX608W64fssbVFRmXWeOM8S8PK3TH7kw_mhSOhggKm5oynuMm1LMYR6JiDnXi0pbOUmw4l7kXsGW_Q6VBENTO8QilqAHpMX5rvWZoPBhDv5-S6mW_WZyg/w400-h395/SpaceXvalpicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/SpaceX2026IPO.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;With my story and inputs, the value that I derive is $1.22 trillion,&lt;/i&gt; about 10% below the private market pricing and about a third below the expected IPO pricing, but still astonishingly high for a company with $15.5 billion in revenues in the most recent year, and a host of question marks about corporate governance. Note that in this iteration, I have ignored cash and debt, since I do not have the company&#39;s financial statements, but it is unlikely that either will have much of an impact on the value of equity for a company with this high a value for its operating assets.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As you can see, the SpaceX story not only has many moving parts, but is fraught with uncertainty, and without full financials, it does not have a good starting point. That said, as the story plays out, we will get more clarity, and the story will need to be reworked, with the value consequences unclear. For the moment, though, I am uncertain about every input in my SpaceX valuation, but uncertainty is a continuum, and I am less uncertain about some inputs (such as the revenues and margins in the space launch and satellite internet service businesses) than about other inputs (including the revenues and margins of the LLM and expansion businesses). If you are wondering why the cost of capital is only 8% for the company, close to the median cost of capital for a US company, it is because much of the risk here is specific to the company (thus reducing the effect in a diversified portfolio) and cuts in both directions (upside and downside). In fact, if there are outliers, they are more likely to be on the upside than the downside. With these considerations in mind, I tried to be open about how uncertain I feel about my estimates, and the results of a simulation yields the following distribution for value:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgics3E0ucM2OcgaXGdBlYQhy3cTGjJLFQBLrT2QtDz9PCL7cBO4VojcqV4WfiZBME6vkSM4m2ADxeqEXYI53_c00oyR5162N4vI7RoB-crVjRtbROW1lxVmL6EgHK01x-Pp9oTq7GwBG_Mj38elAANm4ItzbJRg5OPXFwKawDBhl1RVBW_A8Bcnv1mh-4/s752/SpaceXSimulation.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;579&quot; data-original-width=&quot;752&quot; height=&quot;308&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgics3E0ucM2OcgaXGdBlYQhy3cTGjJLFQBLrT2QtDz9PCL7cBO4VojcqV4WfiZBME6vkSM4m2ADxeqEXYI53_c00oyR5162N4vI7RoB-crVjRtbROW1lxVmL6EgHK01x-Pp9oTq7GwBG_Mj38elAANm4ItzbJRg5OPXFwKawDBhl1RVBW_A8Bcnv1mh-4/w400-h308/SpaceXSimulation.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Since the simulation is centered on the same expected values for inputs as I used in my base case, it should come as no surprise that the median value, across ten thousand simulations, of $1.29 trillion is close to the base case valuation of $1.22 trillion. As the pricing for the IPO starts to gain traction, it is worth recognizing that a $1.75 trillion or even a $2 trillion pricing falls in the range of the distribution, though with little or no upside left for an investor paying that price.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you feel that it is best to wait for the prospectus to be filed, before doing the valuation, I understand but there are three points worth remembering. First tt is unlikely that the prospectus will contain data that will move the intrinsic value story, since none of the numbers in the reported statements will be large enough to alter the immense value coming from expectations of future growth. Second, while the prospectus will contain estimates of total addressable market and perhaps even profitability, in my experience, it will be hype; expect to see trillions of dollars thrown around nonchalantly for market size. Third, as I see it, it is not an either/or proposition, since I can value the company now, and revisit the valuation when the prospectus comes out, with the advantage being that you are less likely to be swayed by the sales pitch in the prospectus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Pricing SpaceX&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In an initial public offering, companies are priced, not valued, by bankers (for the offering price), by investors (as the stock starts trading) and by observers to make judgments (on whether it over or underpriced). Thus, you can make the argument that the valuation, with all of its moving parts, is irrelevant, and &lt;i&gt;that you should price SpaceX, not value it,&lt;/i&gt; if your intent is to trade on the IPO. That is a legitimate critique, but the argument that pricing somehow dispenses with the need to make assumptions about market size and profitability or does not have the same uncertainties is not. You can take issue with the intrinsic valuation because of the layers of assumptions that I had to make along the way, and I know that for many investors, either invested already in the company ,or planning to invest in it, a pricing may seem less daunting. While I sympathize, I am afraid that the uncertainty will be just as much of an issue in pricing SpaceX, and to see why, take a look at the steps in the pricing process:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcilauNNoryINBgkzveTHY_FbdgS2dI7j3vVc7ApJfLl5tt4P_7oK0tVgDfHqmD5b2gCybv7h9SHmn7n7aRQcFAEe3dyM3Cqpdnq874NmtUoiXBtSFXWp9Q6mT6EVGrGXVh451w34peXFSVkwAgNYAxMWvDNRn-EQf0YWXV-GQYeztSLjgGe58Ka_Q6bM/s1284/PricingProcess.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;696&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1284&quot; height=&quot;216&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcilauNNoryINBgkzveTHY_FbdgS2dI7j3vVc7ApJfLl5tt4P_7oK0tVgDfHqmD5b2gCybv7h9SHmn7n7aRQcFAEe3dyM3Cqpdnq874NmtUoiXBtSFXWp9Q6mT6EVGrGXVh451w34peXFSVkwAgNYAxMWvDNRn-EQf0YWXV-GQYeztSLjgGe58Ka_Q6bM/w400-h216/PricingProcess.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;At each step in the process, you will run into issues.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;On the &lt;b&gt;pricing metric front,&lt;/b&gt; the problem with picking a metric is an information vacuum, with only two scalars, revenues and EBITDA, available, and even if you consider the most recent private market pricing, which priced the company at about $1.25 trillion, as the market value of equity, the absence of debt and cash numbers makes it impossible to back into enterprise value. This problem should be resolved, for the most part, when the company files a full prospectus, but for the moment, if you assume that the net debt number is close to zero, the resulting enterprise value of $1.25 trillion yields nosebleed multiples of &lt;b&gt;81 times revenues and 156 times EBITDA for the company, using 2025 numbers&lt;/b&gt;. Even with minimalist information, there will be pricing variants that use expected revenues (or EBITDA) in a future year as a scalar, as can be seen in this graph:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiJCjng8A1J7NtnRWKtxhxaAoLdGC9UVMIQ_qxt8FJjYmpSgpLMqK4YXK2oPD8LPTWadhmDG_J45yinXSWVDRV949q5t_5lXoo_E0E4iJtHqvv7VvV0lphADY2v0fRtukB7M_oaW5nrj1QWiPCeh7rQv0kDE2qfY4OazrvtvlEOsSPbDgHca45oElXymls/s739/PricingMetricsSpaceX.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;543&quot; data-original-width=&quot;739&quot; height=&quot;294&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiJCjng8A1J7NtnRWKtxhxaAoLdGC9UVMIQ_qxt8FJjYmpSgpLMqK4YXK2oPD8LPTWadhmDG_J45yinXSWVDRV949q5t_5lXoo_E0E4iJtHqvv7VvV0lphADY2v0fRtukB7M_oaW5nrj1QWiPCeh7rQv0kDE2qfY4OazrvtvlEOsSPbDgHca45oElXymls/w400-h294/PricingMetricsSpaceX.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border-color: currentcolor; border-image: initial; border-style: none; border-width: medium; border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is no inherent problem with using forward numbers in pricing, as long as you do the same for all of the companies in your peer group, but in the case of SpaceX. it is inevitable that bullish analysts, unable to justify the sky high pricing values with trailing 12-month numbers, will resort to using forward pricing, and add to the bias, by inflating revenues in future years. In the graph, I have used the forecasted revenues in 2030 and 2035, from my intrinsic valuation, and the EV to Sales ratio drops from 80.13 (112.18) to 3.91 (5.47), using the private company (estimatedIPO offering) pricing of $1.25 trillion ($1.75 trillion) as the enterprise value.&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;The even bigger challenge in pricing SpaceX will be&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the second step, where &lt;b&gt;you have to find comparable firms (or a peer group) to base your pricing on&lt;/b&gt;. There is obviously no company out there that is remotely similar to SpaceX, as a composite company, and even if you break it down into businesses, it is likely that you will hit roadblocks. On the space launch business, using publicly traded aerospace and defense companies like Boeing and Northrop Grumman is a non-starter, because they are low growth, lower-margin businesses, unlike SpaceX. Palantir may seem like a logical alternative, and while it may have high growth potential, it is a data/software company that does not have the infrastructure needs that SpaceX does. On the internet service business again, there are conventional telecom firms like Verizon and T-Mobile, but the economics of their offerings are different, and they are not growth companies. In April 2026, I computed the multiples of revenues and EBITDA that publicly traded companies in the aerospace/defense, internet services businesses and technology companies trade at, and they are far lower than what SpaceX can be expected to trade at, if it goes public at $1.5 to $2 trillion:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJlUJ3LZy0UxXCzjIZJ0K4w2H6gHBL_998ufQKEY3apf43MD2_oJRgR4Uz-01vfFKWNkh3O90OvrOz3odGHNyx6bmQ3-sJ8PSKBaKQEV3EUmkQ2Z98BDzyPKzVoERTXB7sN9EOH6PzIJ83qESm9way08elHFgDTerllsNfiEoXg9NK0uIp7GkIHGs_d2o/s1250/PeerGroupStats.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;250&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1250&quot; height=&quot;80&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJlUJ3LZy0UxXCzjIZJ0K4w2H6gHBL_998ufQKEY3apf43MD2_oJRgR4Uz-01vfFKWNkh3O90OvrOz3odGHNyx6bmQ3-sJ8PSKBaKQEV3EUmkQ2Z98BDzyPKzVoERTXB7sN9EOH6PzIJ83qESm9way08elHFgDTerllsNfiEoXg9NK0uIp7GkIHGs_d2o/w400-h80/PeerGroupStats.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Finally, on xAI, there are other LLMs, almost all of which are private companies now, and while you can use the pricing from most recent VC rounds, you are on shaky grounds. Even if you forged ahead with a peer group of high-growth, tech companies, your pricing will almost certainly have to revolved around revenues, rather than profits, and based upon very small samples.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The one part of pricing that you will almost certainly see &lt;b&gt;is the story telling&lt;/b&gt;, especially with analysts who are locked into finding SpaceX to be a buy, with the pricing more of an ex-post rationalization than a analytical tool. No matter what peer group you pick, SpaceX will be priced higher than comparable firms, and to back the argument that it is still a good investment, you will hear stories of its large potential market, significant competitive advantages and profitability. All of these stories are grounded in truth, but they are empty if they remain stories. I will predict that there will be far more buy than sell or hold recommendations for SpaceX, when it does go public, with analysts doing pricing gymnastics with forward multiples, hand-picked peer groups and fairy tales to justifying their positions.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Pricing is an exercise in data analysis, and any pricing of SpaceX will reflect the statistical limitations of the data. Put simply, the only difference between intrinsic valuation and pricing, when it comes to the uncertainties you face with SpaceX, is that with the former (intrinsic valuation), you have to face up to the uncertainties and make your best explicit judgments (on revenues, margins and reinvestment), whereas with the latter (pricing), they remain implicit. If bias is your biggest adversary in assessing SpaceX, and you use pricing, it is very likely that you will find a pricing metric and hand-picked peer group to reflect your biases, and then tell yourself a story on why SpaceX is cheap or expensive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Bottom Line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; SpaceX is an engineering marvel that has shown its naysayers, which included almost every luminary in the space community, to be wrong. That said, for potential investors, there are lessons to be learned from watching Musk&#39;s stewardship of Tesla. As with all of Musk&#39;s creations, SpaceX will be a shape shifting entity, frustrating investors who expect companies to follow linear paths in the corporate life cycle, going from young growth to maturity; it will shift from one narrative to another, often with no advance warning, causing whiplash for investors.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;When I bought Tesla in 2019, after its stock had taken a beating, I described the company as my corporate teenager, and with Musk in full control, SpaceX is likely to follow the same unpredictable path. That makes it a difficult company to buy, but it makes it an even more dangerous company to sell short, as Tesla short sellers have discovered in the last two decades. With all that said, SpaceX is a unique company with immense competitive advantages, and while I would not be interested in buying at the rumored IPO pricing of $1.75 trillion, it is one big correction away from being fairly priced or even cheap. If that happens, I will be a buyer, but will do so with the recognition that this company comes packaged with a founder who is both uniquely gifted and deeply flawed, and complaining about the parts of Musk you do not like, while enjoying the fruits of the aspects that you do, is unfair.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/WhY5EF1_LjQ?si=Nmw3Nz177jd3u-LU&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/SpaceX2026IPO.xlsx&quot;&gt;Valuation of SpaceX in April 2026 (Pre-IPO, and with limited financials)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/681009557050307392/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/681009557050307392' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/681009557050307392'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/681009557050307392'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/04/to-trillion-dollars-and-beyond-spacex.html' title='To a Trillion(s) Dollars and beyond: A SpaceX IPO Odyssey!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6-TotxwwKbQ7zzOB5EVwfwPf-mVnHT_5adjxJphNuV2Rrxso1bUXoDMt3WaTkTCpsvEeZ34qfL99fmnHBn-kDMPGBrYCuyePjVDx2mG8zhKtix8SlRLG28vL0rewIHAdDY9pTqfsSUNh8fl2Si1-xfl0RGRmlUcO4Vn5VOtkYiEV7UKaIqxRQdG8nKVo/s72-w400-h131-c/StoryforInputs.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5961285514566534158</id><published>2026-04-01T17:33:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2026-04-02T09:52:59.934-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Crisis"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Equity Risk Premiums"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Price of Risk"/><title type='text'>Oil, War and the Global Economy: The Market&#39;s Narrative in March 2026</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Markets play an expectations game, and in March 2026, we saw the process play out, with all of its upsides and downsides. The month started with a war in the Middle East, which quickly percolated into soaring oil prices and dropping stock prices, but the overwhelming factor was uncertainty about almost every dimension of the war - how long it would last, what permanent changes to oil prices would emerge as a consequence and how global governments and economies would respond to these changes. As we reach the end of the month, rather than getting answers, we face more questions, and not surprisingly, markets are volatile, not just on a day-to-day basis, but in intraday trading, driven as much by rumors and conjecture, as by facts. In keeping with my view that it is during periods of maximal uncertainty that you need perspective and to back to basics, I will focus my attention on market behavior in March, and what we can learn from that behavior, as a precursor for the months to come.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Market Narrative in March&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;We live in an age of commentary, as self-proclaimed experts offer prognostications, half-baked or otherwise, about what is to come, and the Iran war, with its mix of politics, economics and religion baked in,, has drawn a large and extremely diverse set of expert forecasts. Given the strong priors (about Iran and Trump) that many of these experts bring to the game, it should not be surprising that their views about how the war will play out and the effect on markets is driven by those priors. It is up to markets to reconcile these contradictory perspectives, and come to consensus, and I will try to extract from market behavior what the market narrative is, leading into April 2026, with the recognition that it could be wrong and change overnight in good and bad ways. That said, over the last decade, I have learned that the market is far better at making sense of complexity and uncertainty than experts are, and it behooves us therefore to listen to what it is saying.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br class=&quot;Apple-interchange-newline&quot; /&gt;The Oil Price Shock&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As with almost every event in the middle east, the effects of the Iran War played out first in oil prices, and oil has been the lead player in March, surging and volatile, but with disparate impacts even within that market. In the graph below, I look at spot prices on Brent Crude and West Texas Intermediate (WTI) during March:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAHHPU1EypFHxyFjL6bmCH8DVmZ8mxpu5Fy9CKcihKfpHQDj5WrKAIhvtmsNP8p_PcOW8M6P3tetQtdnkZIYyi98soIx3tJP1zNvCLK_Xb6Kne-fY_N36e9zkYuF5LvvZW9ztVRRMTWcFy78BTTJTMFjwZi3BaX-ubw3q1MiTd4rhv-klsGzaReVM_wzQ/s1952/OilChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1392&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1952&quot; height=&quot;285&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAHHPU1EypFHxyFjL6bmCH8DVmZ8mxpu5Fy9CKcihKfpHQDj5WrKAIhvtmsNP8p_PcOW8M6P3tetQtdnkZIYyi98soIx3tJP1zNvCLK_Xb6Kne-fY_N36e9zkYuF5LvvZW9ztVRRMTWcFy78BTTJTMFjwZi3BaX-ubw3q1MiTd4rhv-klsGzaReVM_wzQ/w400-h285/OilChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Both Brent and WTI crude oil saw prices increase in March, but with the price of Brent rising 49.9% and WTI rising 48.6% during March, the difference between the two almost doubled during the second half of the month. That divergence reflects the two-fold effect of the war on oil supply, with the first being the shuttering of oil production in the Gulf States and the second being the effecting throttling of ship traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, a key passageway for Middle Eastern oil to Asia and Europe. While both factors push up oil prices, oil and gas production in the US, the largest oil producer in 2025 (producing 13.58 million barrels or 16% of the total), was less affected by the Hormuz closing and supply chain issues, explaining the increasing price divergence mid-month.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There was another tea leaf to read, and it came from watching oil futures prices. In the graph below, I compare the spot prices to Brent crude to June and December futures contracts prices:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhcihnVcdgRMSjMflKH2lOBuYfbLM1Z9o23LS_nL3NQvNhO4uspevUKhRNTuLoA43RSU6sL518eOEDgXHe_29MYgPobxKf7XYDIB0ZGPwJJKjHZ6vDkDt-4T8O6t97IRvVaKj-FGIfZNExE_SGbhB3HZV7-E-0IlyxHUhsMTwLtPteTFbOaS9kmOCqmLms/s1936/OilSpotvsFutures.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1412&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1936&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhcihnVcdgRMSjMflKH2lOBuYfbLM1Z9o23LS_nL3NQvNhO4uspevUKhRNTuLoA43RSU6sL518eOEDgXHe_29MYgPobxKf7XYDIB0ZGPwJJKjHZ6vDkDt-4T8O6t97IRvVaKj-FGIfZNExE_SGbhB3HZV7-E-0IlyxHUhsMTwLtPteTFbOaS9kmOCqmLms/w400-h291/OilSpotvsFutures.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;While spot and futures prices have both risen in March, the latter have gone up less, indicating that, at least for the moment, the market sees the interruptions in oil supply as more temporary than permanent, though the market does see a lasting impact even in that optimistic scenario, with December futures up almost 25% over the pre-war level.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;Inflation, Interest Rates and the Economy&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;The creation of OPEC and the oil price embargo in the 1970s and the subsequent inflation spiral in the 1970s is now part of market legend, and the interlude in 2022, when the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and the subsequent sanctioning of Russian oil, caused a spike in inflation rates, has made investors wary. While the effects on gasoline prices are in the news, it is one item in the inflation basket, and it is unclear still how much higher oil prices will affect inflation for the rest of the year and perhaps into next year. While we wait for the actual inflation numbers to come out, markets don&#39;t have that luxury and the early and perhaps best indicator of market expectations on inflation are showing up in interest rates. The graph below looks at 3-month and 10-year US treasuries over the course of March 2026:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1FKajJlMYxBW-m_KPg5UFy9AG3wSJTihLOUZ5RgqsprWknM_C9n3xbnm48C76szBjE66eQioxbRpIRnKdPvIUF1a8Fugp5xovwrzLvzKqbxWVt5bUAUK-vFNnnlb0i7t2l2oM-mJUWrFzYwYvEDLUja_IS-0NistSKF3fMOZWc7hPwPspX1dwnfKxnN8/s1944/TreasuryChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1416&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1944&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1FKajJlMYxBW-m_KPg5UFy9AG3wSJTihLOUZ5RgqsprWknM_C9n3xbnm48C76szBjE66eQioxbRpIRnKdPvIUF1a8Fugp5xovwrzLvzKqbxWVt5bUAUK-vFNnnlb0i7t2l2oM-mJUWrFzYwYvEDLUja_IS-0NistSKF3fMOZWc7hPwPspX1dwnfKxnN8/w400-h291/TreasuryChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The 3-month treasury bill rate has barely budged over the month, moving from 3.67% on February 27, 2026 to 3.70% on March 31, 2026, but the ten-year bond rate saw a much bigger increase from 3.97% on February 27, 2026, to 4.30% on March 31, 2026. The biggest increases in rates are in the intermediate maturities, with the 2-year and 5-year rates rising by 0.41% over the course of the month. If you view interest rates, as I do, as driven by expected inflation and expected real growth, the most plausible reading is that &lt;i&gt;the market sees an increase in inflation that is persistent.&lt;/i&gt; If you are a Fed-watcher, though, your reading may be that the rise in oil prices has tied the hands of the Fed, lowering the likelihood that the Fed Funds rate will be cut in the coming months, but that would leave you with a puzzle to resolve. Since the Fed Funds rate, an overnight bank borrowing rate, has its biggest impact on the short end of the maturity spectrum, how do you explain the fact that short term rates have not changed much?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The increase in interest rates is not just specific to the US, with rises in rates across other currencies, as you can see in this graph of ten-year Euro, Yen and Yuan rates:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIdQx_Mj1xgaQd42uIio5lZZ8uv6mX0Fr1ct8cNoE-j8u1JKU-EibpDn8WQU9JohYTt5pU3MV20nQ86-V3JrWbliDkElWJpIc-rDnBKGr4EddbG61fu8qxc8KV5acibmktLiIDxOnzrmhkCGtswm7BXIbePPN_0u7-GkQyhvJ1xVhxVEliXOgADAMNNSo/s1382/TenyearRates.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1000&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1382&quot; height=&quot;232&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIdQx_Mj1xgaQd42uIio5lZZ8uv6mX0Fr1ct8cNoE-j8u1JKU-EibpDn8WQU9JohYTt5pU3MV20nQ86-V3JrWbliDkElWJpIc-rDnBKGr4EddbG61fu8qxc8KV5acibmktLiIDxOnzrmhkCGtswm7BXIbePPN_0u7-GkQyhvJ1xVhxVEliXOgADAMNNSo/s320/TenyearRates.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;The Japanese Yen and Euro rates are up significantly over the month, but the Yuan rate has seen no change in March 2026. Staying with the market narrative, this indicates higher inflation across countries and currencies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While there are many who are speculating on what higher inflation and oil prices will do to the economy, and investment banks and data services (See &lt;a href=&quot;https://finance.yahoo.com/news/economists-loath-call-recession-odds-115622152.html&quot;&gt;Moody&#39;s&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://finance.yahoo.com/news/goldman-sachs-raised-us-recession-131750734.html&quot;&gt;Goldman Sachs&lt;/a&gt;) have been rushing to update their forecasts for the US economy, the market has not been in as much of a rush to make the judgment. The economy was showing signs of fatigue coming into March 2026, with anemic growth and employment numbers, and it is possible that the oil price shock will tip it over into a rece&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ssion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Price of Risk&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;The heightened uncertainty generated by war and its consequences has played its way out not just in oil prices and treasury rates, but in &lt;i&gt;the prices that investors charge for risk&lt;/i&gt;. In a month where the clash between greed and risk took front stage, with the balance shifting often on a minute-by-minute basis during the trading day, we also see increases in the price that investors charge for taking risk in both equity and bond markets.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;In the equity market, that price of risk is the equity risk premium, a topic that I talked about extensively in this post and paper, with the argument that a good measure of this risk premium will be forward-looking and dynamic. My implied equity risk premium estimates tried to capture the changes in equity risk premiums on a daily basis, and completing the assessments for the entire month, here is what the equity risk premiums looked like in March 2026:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEga5KoCUMRZRjIMb16f0F7D7_L1xkXJXb7v7a8SfsYIdxvc7UM85lJdu1XFWj5D0tJ3FsVbUoTPr3FFj-p_U8Z59aALyJTcXaFoYQsrMHN8b6WRb_yN8SyLTChxFvPAnFpihSV-XgrOOwxRde16-r8ZkeU3fKIUmjIxBoiDzPZPGQQDMWzZbPJ3ni1-z-o/s1050/ERPMarch2026.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;904&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1050&quot; height=&quot;345&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEga5KoCUMRZRjIMb16f0F7D7_L1xkXJXb7v7a8SfsYIdxvc7UM85lJdu1XFWj5D0tJ3FsVbUoTPr3FFj-p_U8Z59aALyJTcXaFoYQsrMHN8b6WRb_yN8SyLTChxFvPAnFpihSV-XgrOOwxRde16-r8ZkeU3fKIUmjIxBoiDzPZPGQQDMWzZbPJ3ni1-z-o/w400-h345/ERPMarch2026.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;The surprise here is not that the equity risk premium rose over the course of the month, expected given what was happening in the Middle East, but that it rose so modestly. In fact, over the course of March, the implied equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500 rose from 4.37% on February 27, 2026, to 4.77%&amp;nbsp; at close of trading on March 31, 2026, an increase of 0.40% for the month.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In the bond market, the price of risk is the bond default spread, and in the graph below, I look at default spreads for seven bond ratings classes from AAA to C (&amp;amp; below):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEja5SUh2zmE-FVQ2qSJhabm6MNISj8sWowSu42g_0g1rFTW1UudFfF700Q0dyQGGWodDVJmQ5kd_UbUgw2mSBxPnoe66kWNvBYXYSz5uu6ZCXslcmb0d1dZzBJgkz6glcubQAEOxWcZY44TX0ykwVo6r9swGshpYPgKjkbdW4L7y2T41r3yqPhhmSqitho/s1700/BondSpreadsinMarch.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;904&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1700&quot; height=&quot;213&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEja5SUh2zmE-FVQ2qSJhabm6MNISj8sWowSu42g_0g1rFTW1UudFfF700Q0dyQGGWodDVJmQ5kd_UbUgw2mSBxPnoe66kWNvBYXYSz5uu6ZCXslcmb0d1dZzBJgkz6glcubQAEOxWcZY44TX0ykwVo6r9swGshpYPgKjkbdW4L7y2T41r3yqPhhmSqitho/w400-h213/BondSpreadsinMarch.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Here again, the spreads increased over the month, but only modestly, even at the lowest ratings classes. Thus, the BBB default spread over the 10-year treasury rose only 0.08% during the month, from 1.07% on February 27, 2026, to 1.15%on March 31, 2026, and the high yield spread (for CCC and below) increased from 9.50% at the start of March 2026 to 10.10% at the end of the month.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The third proxy for risk is the volatility index (the VIX) for US equities, and that measure rose during the course of March 2026:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjCXCgQROll0KuHFWLVR5WkXlY8jJj50BxaDLc49YfnVtnG88MLx-ocbYBB88EAnj4WoiMh5CkKVhRrJjzrHibhAM1Zo2e5zKjGbhojzDvRB4ODIlDABbbG09_XD-P4Uo3btq6uNWDWsJqEHFp3AnLxQZWiEpCSukpC3n28uXfbmJk3jl8w-s_0xCMI5t4/s1944/VIXChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1406&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1944&quot; height=&quot;231&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjCXCgQROll0KuHFWLVR5WkXlY8jJj50BxaDLc49YfnVtnG88MLx-ocbYBB88EAnj4WoiMh5CkKVhRrJjzrHibhAM1Zo2e5zKjGbhojzDvRB4ODIlDABbbG09_XD-P4Uo3btq6uNWDWsJqEHFp3AnLxQZWiEpCSukpC3n28uXfbmJk3jl8w-s_0xCMI5t4/s320/VIXChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;During March 2026, the VIX rose from19.86 at the start of the month to 25.25 by the end of the month, an increase much smaller than the increases we saw in March 2020 (COVID) or in the first week of April 2025 (Tariff week).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; With the caveat that this is still mid-narrative, the bottom line from the movement in all of these risk measures is that while the market had a bad month, &lt;i&gt;much of the marking down in equity values can be attributed to real concerns about higher inflation and economic damage, and is not the result of panic selling, at least in the aggregate.&lt;/i&gt; To back this up, I took a look at two collectibles - gold, which has a history of holding its value or even increasing during crises and panics in financial markets, and bitcoin, which has not had that history so far, but is marketed by its advocates as a potential hedge:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgBsosU7RZI8p5_igo_FTS2DPf1g6HQfIFzfOvWfceH8JAID_GTvgGLPpazeLFnfPhfn2anIv5JFPH8GRFD0J6FF-tqEVx3rTiK7ySD-_dhgXS5j8tFCVUXD8v1twq7yT-UwIlvPuPZmNcHzZEGvB60DM46fk1u8qAbFH2SOaktXgJn19drGpW9SPHdhCA/s1864/CollectiblesChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1322&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1864&quot; height=&quot;284&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgBsosU7RZI8p5_igo_FTS2DPf1g6HQfIFzfOvWfceH8JAID_GTvgGLPpazeLFnfPhfn2anIv5JFPH8GRFD0J6FF-tqEVx3rTiK7ySD-_dhgXS5j8tFCVUXD8v1twq7yT-UwIlvPuPZmNcHzZEGvB60DM46fk1u8qAbFH2SOaktXgJn19drGpW9SPHdhCA/w400-h284/CollectiblesChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Gold was down 10.42% during March 2026, uncommon for a crisis month, but bitcoin was up 3.30% during the month, and it is entirely in keeping with bitcoin investors marching to their own music, though it will be interesting to see how this dynamic plays out, as this repricing continues.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;Effect across Geographies&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;The war is in the Middle East, but there is no place to hide from its effects. To see how the war has played out in different regions, I looked at the change in aggregate market cap, in US dollar terms, in March 2026:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_TDIyyGUEMqhpTFgFJLqDL1w6_V8U5K0Ox5ahrR6Ay6ifx8N_-iSugfa3lNYbwZSQler67hy87GkA1SXI5CEsszHhWSXuWRKh-1YvpkB9XV894WLdmACoNrlYf3C6DzcPXKM_kRG66irJ4w3ujnrc4pSTCY5m9feJCkLRl0W7OR5Bqpm_4Tyh-aeuCBk/s1400/RegionMktCap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;544&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1400&quot; height=&quot;155&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_TDIyyGUEMqhpTFgFJLqDL1w6_V8U5K0Ox5ahrR6Ay6ifx8N_-iSugfa3lNYbwZSQler67hy87GkA1SXI5CEsszHhWSXuWRKh-1YvpkB9XV894WLdmACoNrlYf3C6DzcPXKM_kRG66irJ4w3ujnrc4pSTCY5m9feJCkLRl0W7OR5Bqpm_4Tyh-aeuCBk/w400-h155/RegionMktCap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;You may be surprised to see Africa &amp;amp; the Middle East and Eastern Europe &amp;amp; Russia show up as the best performing markets, with about 2% decreases in market capitalization, but it reflects the dual impact of the war. While it has wreaked havoc across the Middle East, the higher oil prices that it has brought with it are providing upside for oil producers that offsets some of the damage.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Since these dollar returns reflect local market performance as well as the strength/weaknesses of their currencies against the dollar, I looked at the US dollar&#39;s performance in March 2026:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgeqZV76fDVqI2yQsczQOyQwaHNENmzK5scDtNn-7eLV-ZiWQH44vgzQJ-NIrQeVK9qJ5V89_OQBgj0tU4_Hc79UzssB2y0J50JOziwd2eTmbsfH44CIGlMSng_ez_cLfkx1SGiC6oiSUzMJNxbJMBeZXnFwSgYjo_jJYjrmQNRI-eMYwoaAItUOPQd8_4/s1554/DollarChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1126&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1554&quot; height=&quot;290&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgeqZV76fDVqI2yQsczQOyQwaHNENmzK5scDtNn-7eLV-ZiWQH44vgzQJ-NIrQeVK9qJ5V89_OQBgj0tU4_Hc79UzssB2y0J50JOziwd2eTmbsfH44CIGlMSng_ez_cLfkx1SGiC6oiSUzMJNxbJMBeZXnFwSgYjo_jJYjrmQNRI-eMYwoaAItUOPQd8_4/w400-h290/DollarChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I know that I am piling on at this stage, but I do compute equity risk premiums for other countries twice a year, once at the start and once mid-year. Given how much March has shaken up the status quo, I will make an exception and re-estimate equity risk premiums, by country, updating both my mature market premium (which I estimate from the S&amp;amp;P 500) as well as the country ratings, default spreads and country equity risk premiums for other countries.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh27lJDUzEtSnaKffpOcr4giJFCGf9aYGuAKgVURLVG24PLI9X26GmYPQypyIqh0oF8H6XsiuS2Y2RtLdQFS4GbHAZi2q5P4zzBOOcaY76_Vv0UDkBPts7_fa671Kj9XeGR7D2xcS0EZ9sUoNfi1Azn_sfkw-IxQeDvROTaY3aDdBVsLA-zp6rjGCuBkUc/s5092/CountryERPPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;4330&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5092&quot; height=&quot;340&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh27lJDUzEtSnaKffpOcr4giJFCGf9aYGuAKgVURLVG24PLI9X26GmYPQypyIqh0oF8H6XsiuS2Y2RtLdQFS4GbHAZi2q5P4zzBOOcaY76_Vv0UDkBPts7_fa671Kj9XeGR7D2xcS0EZ9sUoNfi1Azn_sfkw-IxQeDvROTaY3aDdBVsLA-zp6rjGCuBkUc/w400-h340/CountryERPPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/ctrypremApr26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download spreadsheet with country ERPs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is worth noting that these equity risk premiums are computed based upon sovereign ratings, which are slow to change, as the world convulses. That has been an issue with my ERP computations for Russia and Ukraine, since 2022, with the rating for the former withdrawn and the rating for the latter frozen at Ca (Moody&#39;s); I have use a country risk score from PRS for the last two years to update Russia&#39;s equity risk premium, an have done the same for the Ukraine in this update. You can see the same issues now, with the war in Iran rocking the boat, and at least for the Middle East, there is reason to believe that the ratings may understate country risk. While none of the countries in the war zone have seen their sovereign rating change (yet), these countries have market estimates of sovereign default risk in the form of sovereign CDS spreads, I looked at the movement in those spreads during the course of the month:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiJMRpapXA5edYpAIkMDk7TdCzOjp7TCieKf_SIhmkiVDUdiNuTJFlE8_IID11VuUrlhKa620NRFbf4lbfo2o_8ck5XvA23tH-myBeB17qyxQWOd2MkPdgO94L_ZTPHCXdyncLzoYk5rC9YhRAhWlsBOZNSR55gJcEXArmyp-x7p438za9rEICXUSBX77U/s702/SovrCDSinMarchChg.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;588&quot; data-original-width=&quot;702&quot; height=&quot;335&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiJMRpapXA5edYpAIkMDk7TdCzOjp7TCieKf_SIhmkiVDUdiNuTJFlE8_IID11VuUrlhKa620NRFbf4lbfo2o_8ck5XvA23tH-myBeB17qyxQWOd2MkPdgO94L_ZTPHCXdyncLzoYk5rC9YhRAhWlsBOZNSR55gJcEXArmyp-x7p438za9rEICXUSBX77U/w400-h335/SovrCDSinMarchChg.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Not surprisingly, market measures of default risk are more sensitive to war effects, and have risen for much of the Middle East, as worries have mounted, with bigger increases in Qatar, the UAE and Turkey than in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. The United States has also seen a surge in its sovereign CDS spread, and the global sovereign CDS spreads have risen about 12% in the first quarter of 2026. Using these sovereign CDS spreads as measures of default spreads for this part of the world may yield more realistic equity risk premiums.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;What now?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;I noted at the start of this post that the uncertainties that manifested during March 2026 about the direction, duration and effects of war are still unresolved and perhaps even grown as we start April. As investors try to navigate their way through this period, here are the questions that you will need to answer to decide where you fall in the continuum between complacency to full-blown panic:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4-GeOwTb11TzjgdrKQ3_tXO7Ciga6lc2C_LbAgqVPJZupEk6IbI0IF-2Hwf_ABSjecXEC72JZE6HyoB6cDRaC897l_OMR2zSF6rpfju92Iype_7Y4ZHqgBq6UWvXJFLJWGFjCQXXun-5mtft3Aly1X025CyyjRWqJY9egJu_-KlvfAP9cp0oLtG6ql3s/s1488/ComplacenttoPanic.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;530&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1488&quot; height=&quot;143&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4-GeOwTb11TzjgdrKQ3_tXO7Ciga6lc2C_LbAgqVPJZupEk6IbI0IF-2Hwf_ABSjecXEC72JZE6HyoB6cDRaC897l_OMR2zSF6rpfju92Iype_7Y4ZHqgBq6UWvXJFLJWGFjCQXXun-5mtft3Aly1X025CyyjRWqJY9egJu_-KlvfAP9cp0oLtG6ql3s/w400-h143/ComplacenttoPanic.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In the complacency scenario, the war ends quickly (in days or weeks, rather than months), the damaged&amp;nbsp; infrastructure&amp;nbsp; is repaired quickly and the new regime in Iran is viewed favorably by the rest of the world, allowing the sanctions on the country to be removed, it is likely that oil prices will drop, perhaps even to below pre-war levels, as Russian and Iranian oil is freely bought and sold. In the full-scale panic scenario, the war continues for months, with lasting damage to infrastructure and supply chains and Iran&#39;s new government stays sanctioned, oil prices are likely to stay high and perhaps even go higher, the global economy will be kneecapped and parts of the Middle East (Dubai and Abu Dhabi) that had created a business and tourist friendly setting will struggle to find their balance.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In either case, the war has shaken up the status quo, and I see lasting consequences that go well beyond oil.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The capital flows from the oil rich countries which has flowed generously to everything from AI start ups to Premier League clubs will shrink, creating down-market effects.&amp;nbsp; That money, and the funds that were set aside to build vanity projects, from ski resorts in the deserts to state-of-the-art cities will be redirected to building pipelines and securing the flow of oil. Global politics has also been roiled, and even if the war ends quickly,&amp;nbsp; there is damage that has been done to partnerships and security agreements that cannot be undone.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/QID0UbRuIYk?si=cLZyhRp-YyTF17ds&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Datasets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/AlldataMarch2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Equity risk premium for S&amp;amp;P 500, by day (March 2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/ctrypremApr26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Equity risk premiums, by country (updated April 1, 2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5961285514566534158/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/5961285514566534158' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5961285514566534158'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5961285514566534158'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/04/oil-war-and-global-economy-markets.html' title='Oil, War and the Global Economy: The Market&#39;s Narrative in March 2026'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAHHPU1EypFHxyFjL6bmCH8DVmZ8mxpu5Fy9CKcihKfpHQDj5WrKAIhvtmsNP8p_PcOW8M6P3tetQtdnkZIYyi98soIx3tJP1zNvCLK_Xb6Kne-fY_N36e9zkYuF5LvvZW9ztVRRMTWcFy78BTTJTMFjwZi3BaX-ubw3q1MiTd4rhv-klsGzaReVM_wzQ/s72-w400-h285-c/OilChart.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1404644491441039018</id><published>2026-03-24T13:23:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2026-03-24T13:23:16.026-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Beat the market"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Indexing"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Investment Philosophy"/><title type='text'>Finding your investing lodestar: In Search of an Investment Philosophy</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; When uncertainty roils markets, as is the case right now, it is natural for investors to get knocked off balance, a when off-balance, to make investment decisions that they often regret later. It is during those times that it helps to have a core set of beliefs about markets, and an investment philosophy that reflects those beliefs. You may not be able to mend the damage to your portfolio, but it will help you find balance again and make sense of the noise around you. As an investor, my investment philosophy has been a work-in-progress, but I have had an interest in how the investors around me develop their philosophies, and why differences persist. That interest was precipitated by a seminar class that I organized for NYU Stern MBAs in the late 1990s, where successful investors with very different market perspectives and investing styles presented their points of view, and students struggled to reconcile their different and contradictory points of view. In the aftermath of the class, I started working on a book and a class on investment philosophies, where the end game was not to find the &quot;best&quot; philosophy, but to provide a framework for investors to find the philosophy that best fits them. The first edition of the book came out almost two decades ago, followed by a second edition in 2012. In conjunction with the second edition of the book, I created a free online version of the class on my webpage in the same year, and NYU created a certificate class about six years for the class. While my core thinking on investment philosophies has nto changed, markets and the economy have, and both the book and the class have been in need of an update. I spent the last few months working on that update, and the third edition should be available at book stores in the coming week, and in conjunction, I have an updated (free) online version of the class on my webpage and on YouTube&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Origins&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;In the late 1990s, I was approached by the Stern School of Business with a request to serve as the organizer for a class on investing, where MBA students would spend a session a week, for a semester, hearing from successful investors of all stripes, and discuss what they learned from that talk in a second session each week. Over the course of the semester, the class had fourteen speakers, and because of our New York location, it drew from a range of investing types. Thus, students heard from a well-known value investor one week, the manager of one of the best-regarded growth mutual funds the next, a high-profile technical analyst in the third, and so on. The speakers approached investing in very different ways and had different perspectives on financial markets and how to exploit market mistakes, but they all had been successful as investors.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As I led the discussion of each speaker&#39;s market views and investment practices each week, I noticed students in my class developing whiplash, as they instinctively try to incorporate the views and practices of each speaker into their thinking. As the weeks went on, that became a problem, since other than investment success, the speakers shared little in common, and their views about markets were sometimes contradictory. By the end of the class, there was a fairly large subset of the students who ended up more confused by what they had heard during the semester, rather than enlightened.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;As I reviewed the class, before handing it off to someone else, I took an inventory of what I had seen not just in the class, but in investing in general, and came to the following general judgments about investing:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;There are very few active investors, who win consistently over time&lt;/i&gt;: Active investing is one of the most difficult games to win at, and one reason is that you match the average investor, effortlessly and almost costlessly, by investing in index funds. Active investing has the unenviable task of trying to be better than average, and by enough to cover the costs (research, data, personnel, transactions) associated with being active. Just as illustration of how much of a mountain this is to climb, take a look at the percentage of active institutional investors who beat their respective indices over the last decade:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimEXeUAc3pjN0cgHFxNi3qTSOo4B_sv3UiQsb5w_2xi4D-uarNYNJqkPZqZURj3uaDi61sE3-nNg1Q4aVihz5rPiUcb23wHpNJhBuE65cJu3vOK_k3ZgZl3n0xFNdpYTWUXNqhzpyA7vKe8tx30ctlY4z8WnxnhIcH6gJnjAPa6zx8c_c_x0D_I6yD23c/s1466/ActivePerfChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1082&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1466&quot; height=&quot;295&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimEXeUAc3pjN0cgHFxNi3qTSOo4B_sv3UiQsb5w_2xi4D-uarNYNJqkPZqZURj3uaDi61sE3-nNg1Q4aVihz5rPiUcb23wHpNJhBuE65cJu3vOK_k3ZgZl3n0xFNdpYTWUXNqhzpyA7vKe8tx30ctlY4z8WnxnhIcH6gJnjAPa6zx8c_c_x0D_I6yD23c/w400-h295/ActivePerfChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;While&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;there some active money managers who &quot;beat the market&quot; over a year, two years or even five, very few are able to hold on to these excess returns as you lengthen their active investing stint. Like gamblers in a casino, who strike it lucky early, but stay gambing too long, they often leave with none of their gains, or worse. Before I get a blowback, I am fully aware that that there are investing legends (Warren Buffett, Jim Simon and George Soros, to name just three), but the very fact that we can name them suggests that they are the exceptions, not the rule.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Even with those successful few, it is very difficult to separate luck from skill: &lt;/i&gt;Much as investment books and classes claim otherwise, investing results are affected by so many forces that are out of your control that disentangling how much of your final returns can be attributed to skill and how much to luck is very difficult to do.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;These successful investors have widely different pathways to delivering success: &lt;/i&gt;If you were to make a list of the investors who have had the most success in markets in the last century, I would wager that you would be looking at a very diverse group, not just in terms of how they succeeded, but also in terms of personality. The three investors I named as legends - Buffett, Simon and Soros - obviously had very different views on markets, and how to exploit market mistakes, but even with investors who are often viewed as being from the same grouping, differences remain. Buffett may have learned his early lessons from Ben Graham, but the Graham and Buffett approaches to value investing are varied, with the former more focused on screening for cheap stocks and the latter more interested in finding companies with solid moats and great management.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Imitating successful investors does not seem to provide much payoff&lt;/i&gt;: The practices of successful investors have been probed and investigated by other investors and journalists, and some of them have dozens of books that claim to tell you the secret of their success. Warren Buffett is perhaps the winner in this race, with not only a multitude of books that track his investing life but also his annual letters to Berkshire shareholders which laid out his investing perspective in detail. That said, the investors who tried to follow in his footsteps, often imitating every aspect of his approach, have, for the most part, not been able to match his success.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;My takeaways from these assessments are two fold. The first is that there can be&lt;i&gt; no one dominant investment philosophy that is the best for all investors&lt;/i&gt;, and any claims to the contrary, whether it be for value investing or market timing or trading, are disingenuous. The second is that &lt;i&gt;there is a right investment philosophy for each individual that reflects that individual&#39;s views and beliefs about markets and characteristics as a person&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Core Idea&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; The recognition that each investor needs an investment philosophy that is tailor-made to his or her beliefs and personality became the starting point for my creating a class, and writing a book, about the topic. Before I describe what I try to do in the book, I should start with a definition of what I mean by an investment philosophy, and perhaps the best way to do that is by describing what it is not. First, an investment philosophy is much richer and more complete than an investment strategy, with the latter often coming out of the former. Thus, applying a screen to find stocks that trade at low multiples of earnings (low PE ratios or low multiple of EBITDA) is an investment strategy, but the investment philosophy that gives rise to that strategy is one that is built on markets under pricing companies with low growth or boring businesses, perhaps because investors are dazzled by growth and drawn to the excitement of newer businesses. Second, an investment philosophy is not an investment slogan. &quot;Buy low, sell high&quot; is an investment slogan, and a meaningless one at that, since that is the end game of almost every investment philosophy.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you have been investing for a while, and have never stopped and asked yourself what your investment philosophy is, it is understandable. In fact, you may wonder why you should constrain yourself to an investment philosophy instead of looking for bargains wherever you can find them. The problem with not having a core philosophy is that is exposes you, as an investor, to a whole host of consequences, most of which are negative:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Chasing winners&lt;/u&gt;: If you don&#39;t have an investment philosophy, it is almost a given that you will find yourself drawn to whatever strategies worked best in the recent past. Your portfolio will suffer from whiplash as you chase last year&#39;s winners, whether that be the Mag Seven or technology stocks or small cap stocks, and while your turnover and transactions costs rise, you will have little to show in terms of returns.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Scam target:&lt;/u&gt; Greed is universal, and that leads us to look for ways to make lots of money with very little risk. Without an investment philosophy constraining you, you will be an easy mark for investment scams, drawn in with promises of upside with little or no downside.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Empty investing cupboards&lt;/u&gt;: If you do find an investment strategy that works at delivering returns, it is worth remembering that the clock is ticking, and that imitation and market corrections will cause that strategy to stop working, sooner rather than later. If that is all you brought to the market, your investing cupboard will be empty and you will find yourself running to stay in place. The advantage of having a coherent, well thought through investment philosophy is that you can go back to it and mine it for other strategies that may exploit the same market mistakes. Thus, if your investment philosophy is that markets undervalue boring, low-growth companies, and low PE ratios are no longer doing the trick (of finding cheap stocks), you may look for other screens (low volatility) &amp;nbsp;that find you boring companies that are mispriced.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Simply put, every investor needs an investment philosophy to guide him or her in the difficult task of trying to delivering success.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;Rather than create a laundry list of philosophies, I will use the investment process as the vehicle to describe how and where the different investment philosophies emerge from, as well as diverge:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgqIyCFjSLU0b34bt__X37sB7Kt0WEebADPufih6o6NFu9Rpva8SSvbnSKKklBIdHHzEssvbiChEKeBHkk28-m8sqBEyP9JsYrMzVrlzGgs2lXyQw1gHDYBLmWMiBz1iViU5QYNOpdHZ8g1UrTYYxNn8yzYpIjyAtwhzWWz954cCvg9kE-k1jmVRetYaZA/s550/InvestingBigPicture.jpeg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;377&quot; data-original-width=&quot;550&quot; height=&quot;274&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgqIyCFjSLU0b34bt__X37sB7Kt0WEebADPufih6o6NFu9Rpva8SSvbnSKKklBIdHHzEssvbiChEKeBHkk28-m8sqBEyP9JsYrMzVrlzGgs2lXyQw1gHDYBLmWMiBz1iViU5QYNOpdHZ8g1UrTYYxNn8yzYpIjyAtwhzWWz954cCvg9kE-k1jmVRetYaZA/w400-h274/InvestingBigPicture.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Using this process, the choices in investment philosophies emerge:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Active investing versus Passive indexing&lt;/i&gt;: If, as we noted in the last section, doing nothing can deliver returns approximating the average, and nine out of ten investors who try to beat the average fail, there is no shame in adopting a passive indexing philosophy, where your allocation across asset classes is determined by your risk aversion and need for liquidity, and index funds fill out the rest of the dance card. It is human nature, though, to seek to be better than average, and it is perhaps that desire that drives many into active investing choices, and there are multiple pathways that they can adopt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. Investing versus Trading&lt;/i&gt;: The second divide in investing philosophies comes from the difference between value, which is driven by cashflows, growth and risk, and price, determined by demand and supply. Investing requires assessing the value of an asset, buying if the price is lower than that value and selling if it is higher, and waiting for the gap to close. Trading, on the other hand, is about gauging market mood and momentum, buying if you expect those forces to drive the price up and selling otherwise.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiBgOcudjYYz4JB0XVsz9B1UJ8mqlf62gmgf7T5UxMyQYhqcHG_S0NStd7f5h4gXx9bBoRAp-WpNoxnCdKVF1Nk7P8KDIrCPy3brX4ykBi69HZY2sYBT37tJqEn-fc2cg_GbLkheJfso47SOWtmDz49TOOuPuB2phI8SmGPB8AA54omyBnWh_uyTLWifpI/s1436/InnvestingvsPricing.jpeg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;648&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1436&quot; height=&quot;180&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiBgOcudjYYz4JB0XVsz9B1UJ8mqlf62gmgf7T5UxMyQYhqcHG_S0NStd7f5h4gXx9bBoRAp-WpNoxnCdKVF1Nk7P8KDIrCPy3brX4ykBi69HZY2sYBT37tJqEn-fc2cg_GbLkheJfso47SOWtmDz49TOOuPuB2phI8SmGPB8AA54omyBnWh_uyTLWifpI/w400-h180/InnvestingvsPricing.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;Within each of these groupings (investing or trading), there are sub-groupings. Trading can take different tacks, depending on where you think that market mistakes lie. The first, &lt;i&gt;price traders&lt;/i&gt;, use the information on prices and trading volume to detect shifts in mood and momentum, with charts and technical indicators as tools, to try and generate profits. The second group, &lt;i&gt;information traders&lt;/i&gt;, trades around information releases, such as earnings reports, acquisition announcements or even insider trades, with some trading ahead of the news, some at the time the news is announced and some in the aftermath, all trying to take advantage of what they see as market mistakes in reacting to that information. The third group, &lt;i&gt;arbitrageurs&lt;/i&gt;, focused on finding the same or related assets trading on different markets, looking for mispricing across these markets, and locking in that mispricing as excess returns.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Investors, for instance, can be drawn to &lt;i&gt;value or growth&lt;/i&gt;, and while that difference is often stated in terms of pricing multiples, with value investors buying low priced stocks (low PE, low price to book etc) and growth investors drawn to higher growth and high priced companies, I prefer to think of the differences in terms of where each group thinks it can find bargains. Using my financial balance sheet construct, where I divide the value of a firm into the value of investments already made (assets-in-place) and investments anticipated in the future (growth assets), value investors view their odds of finding market mistakes to be greater with assets-in-place, whereas growth investors feel that their odds are better in finding misvalued growth assets:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYoI2V0zQ2CX-y-5XSepEYC0fGBtPkl9Bfu8BJZLEtnkzXF1kLYMxjCEqDtmmAPGoAiLNuRdVr3JhiBO2TbnwoaqilyTUOFn7QkgPvguZNo8S80d5L6Lo4j1dNxCChWLEphIdsBGf_mAftbdibBuz5v0irvqjOHaSwBinTz8axw1QSfiiEztqWUndCF3M/s1536/ValuevsGrowthInv.jpeg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;714&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1536&quot; height=&quot;186&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYoI2V0zQ2CX-y-5XSepEYC0fGBtPkl9Bfu8BJZLEtnkzXF1kLYMxjCEqDtmmAPGoAiLNuRdVr3JhiBO2TbnwoaqilyTUOFn7QkgPvguZNo8S80d5L6Lo4j1dNxCChWLEphIdsBGf_mAftbdibBuz5v0irvqjOHaSwBinTz8axw1QSfiiEztqWUndCF3M/w400-h186/ValuevsGrowthInv.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Within value and growth investing, there are further sub-divides. Value investing can span the spectrum from &lt;i&gt;passive screening&lt;/i&gt;, where you screen for stocks that have specific characteristics (low PE, high growth, high ROE) and label them as cheap, to more &lt;i&gt;activist poses,&lt;/i&gt; where investors with deep pockets (individual activist, private equity funds) not only take positions in companies that they believe are under or over valued, but also push for change at these companies. Growth investing has its own version of activist investing, in the form of &lt;i&gt;venture capital&lt;/i&gt;, invested in young, growth companies, where in addition to supplying capital for growth, venture capitalists take an active role in how these companies evolve over time and exit the marketplace (IPOs, sale to another company).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;3. Market Timing vs Stock/Asset Picking&lt;/i&gt;: In market timing, your focus is less on individual stocks or assets and more on deciding whether a market (equities, bonds, real estate etc.) is under or over priced. Returning to the investment process, your focus is on allocating your portfolio across asset classes, based on your market views, underweighting &quot;expensive&quot; asset classes and overweighting &quot;cheap&quot; ones.&amp;nbsp; In stock/asset picking, you take the market as a given and try to find the best individual investments within each investment class for you - the cheapest stocks, bonds and real estate that you can find. There is an ironic contradiction in making this choice. It is undeniable that a successful market timer will make far more money than a good stock picker, but it is also true that it is much more difficult to be a successful market timer than it is to be a good stock picker. The picture below captures the choices in terms of investment philosophy, framed in terms of where they enter the investment process:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRTVAJZyKMVMrQtbMRJKPp7Y3PWppBKTZMYNZd9ixOT0-ZAIZawBIUVxZ1sarOHrlN34_yO2-GC_OJxF3TbjmpYJ7sqQlvPJPwxYHOXU_eZUYqf2tu3efw5oq0-RcQiWWmOKdD_w9aQeOK3EQvnPPFsILX3d-VRsodQTvXtDmQxiG79ChPwOmo0n4A_KI/s832/invphilchoices.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;335&quot; data-original-width=&quot;832&quot; height=&quot;161&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRTVAJZyKMVMrQtbMRJKPp7Y3PWppBKTZMYNZd9ixOT0-ZAIZawBIUVxZ1sarOHrlN34_yO2-GC_OJxF3TbjmpYJ7sqQlvPJPwxYHOXU_eZUYqf2tu3efw5oq0-RcQiWWmOKdD_w9aQeOK3EQvnPPFsILX3d-VRsodQTvXtDmQxiG79ChPwOmo0n4A_KI/w400-h161/invphilchoices.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Even if you feel that you have an investment philosophy in place, I think being aware of how others approach markets and keeping an open mind, where you borrow parts of other philosophies and incorporate them into yours will make you a better investor.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Finding an Investment Philosophy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;Looking at the menu of investment philosophies, from passive indexing to arbitrage, my end game in my book and for the class on investment philosophies was not to advance a single philosophy or even compare them, but to provide as unbiased and complete a picture, as I could, of the data backing each philosophy and more importantly, the personal characteristics that you would need to succeed with that philosophy.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 1: Views on Market Mistakes and Corrections&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The first step in finding your investment philosophy is with a view of where (and why) markets make mistakes, and how they correct them. Even the firmest believer in efficient markets will concede&amp;nbsp; that markets not only make mistakes, but sometimes make big ones, but the divergence between them and active investors lies in the nature of these mistakes. In an efficient market, market mistakes will be random, and since there is no systematic pattern to them, there is no pathway for active investors to find these mistakes, even with access to data and powerful tools. Active investors, in contrast, believe that there are systematic patterns that you can use to find these mistakes, and to exploit them for profits, with traders believing that those patterns are in the pricing and volume data and investors hewing more to fundamentals.&amp;nbsp; That said, active investors can and will disagree about the types of market mistakes, with some buying into the notion that markets learn slowly, whereas others believe that markets overreact, and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;it is healthy for investors to have these disagreements.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 2: Pick an investment philosophy that reflects market views&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Your views on market mistakes and corrections should guide you in your choice of investment philosophies. Thus, if you believe that markets overreact to news, good or bad, you may decide to become a contrarian, either trading (by buying after bad news and selling after good) or by investing (by buying companies with solid fundamentals whose stock prices have dropped by far more than they should have). Conversely, if you believe that it is momentum, not fundamentals, that is the biggest drivers of stock price movements, you may choose to ride that wave, based on charts and technical indicators. Superimposing time horizon onto the types of mistakes that markets make, you can create a matrix of investment philosophies:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjM3iopb15-wSY8UJYIChwnECDuzvrxbLmbcMWbTiefPYI_l1lY4oiL6aDoIbeNje0hW1DQxvAVfBlOAFQC-gKK-eocQB0c1WGi7o4Sc2mzSVvx8t8VefxMIYxbGIXbDnYi4F3LW1zXUuoCNChXEsNTU7092X4YmOVfCacKbwU2mq3YaVpiC_7NNTeKuDo/s2076/InvPhilMatrix.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1394&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2076&quot; height=&quot;269&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjM3iopb15-wSY8UJYIChwnECDuzvrxbLmbcMWbTiefPYI_l1lY4oiL6aDoIbeNje0hW1DQxvAVfBlOAFQC-gKK-eocQB0c1WGi7o4Sc2mzSVvx8t8VefxMIYxbGIXbDnYi4F3LW1zXUuoCNChXEsNTU7092X4YmOVfCacKbwU2mq3YaVpiC_7NNTeKuDo/w400-h269/InvPhilMatrix.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Do you have to pick a single philosophy? Not necessarily! You can meld two or even more than two philosophies together, as long as you meet two conditions. The first is that the melded philosophies have to &lt;i&gt;share a core belief about market mistakes&lt;/i&gt;. Thus, if you believe that market s overreact, you can be a contrarian value investor, buying companies that have been beaten up in markets but have intact fundamentals, and timing your purchases right after bad news releases, when markets overreact. The second is that you have to &lt;i&gt;identify which of the philosophies is your dominant one&lt;/i&gt;, and which one is secondary, allowing you break ties where the two push you in different directions. Staying with the melded contrarian philosophy, and assuming that the contrarian value philosophy is your dominant one, you will choose to not to buy a stock that is down 15% after a bad earnings report, if it is still trading closer to its highs than lows.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 3: Check for viable strategies&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Investment philosophies are a critical component, but to make money on a philosophy, no matter how well thought through, you need to devise investment strategies that can generate profits for you. In coming up with these strategies, you will confront the two realities that cause many strategies that look good on paper to fail: transactions costs and taxes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;On the &lt;i&gt;transactions cost front&lt;/i&gt;, the &lt;i&gt;brokerage trading cost&lt;/i&gt; is just a small part of the overall cost, with two other costs that can often be much larger. The first is the &lt;i&gt;bid-ask spread&lt;/i&gt;, small for large, very liquid stocks, but much larger for smaller and less liquid investments. The second is &lt;i&gt;price impact&lt;/i&gt;, again non-existent if you are a small investor buying or selling shares in a large market-cap company, but substantial if you are a large investor trading on an obscure stock.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;On the&lt;i&gt; tax front&lt;/i&gt;, some strategies will create more tax costs than others, partly because of how investment income is taxed (dividends create immediate tax consequences but capital gains require trading to incur tax liabilities) and partly because of how much trading your strategy will require of you, with higher turnover generally creating more tax liability.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you are planning on being an active investor, there is one final skill set that you will need to acquire, and that is the capacity to test whether a strategy can beat the market. The volatility in returns can sometimes create illusions, where a strategy looks like it is delivering excess returns, but those returns are almost entirely due to statistical noise.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 4: Check for personal fit&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;Investment philosophies, and the strategies that emanate from them, come with different demands in terms of time horizon, with some requiring holding on to investments for many years and others requiring trading in minutes, different risk exposure and divergent tax consequences. Investors who choose to adopt these philosophies have to reflect on whether they are good matches, on the following fronts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Capital to invest&lt;/u&gt;: If you are just starting on your investment journey, and have only a small amount of capital to invest, your choices in terms of investment strategies narrow. You will definitely not be able to be an activist investor, since you will have no weight (in terms of money invested or shares held) to throw around, and you may lack the wealth to buy illiquid, small companies, if that is where you think market mistakes are most often found, since you will not be able to spread your bets. The good news is that you continue to build up your capital, your investment choices will widen, and you can modify your investment strategies accordingly. At the other end of the spectrum, and this is perhaps more the case if you are managing other people&#39;s money, you can have so much capital to invest that some investment strategies become infeasible. For instance, if you are planning on investing in illiquid, small cap stocks, having billions of dollars to invest will increase your transactions costs (by increasing price impact when you trade).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Time horizon&lt;/u&gt;: Many investors, when asked the question about time horizon, claim to have long time horizons, often because they believe that it is the answer that &quot;good&quot; investors give. The truth is that for most investors, time horizon is as much determined by external factors, such as age, health and liquidity needs, as it is by internal motivations. If you have to pay tuition for your children or expect to have substantial hospital bills in the near future, your time horizon just became shorter, and that has to be factored into your choice of investment strategies.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Risk exposure:&lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp;As with time horizon, the willingness to take risk is partly a function of your personal makeup and partly determined by your life standing. If you have accumulated wealth and have a job with a stable (or rising) income that more than covers your expenses, you are better positioned to take risks than if you are on the verge of retirement, and are investing money that you will be needing soon to cover your post-retirement cash needs.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Personal qualities&lt;/u&gt;: Your personality and characteristics also come into play in your choice of investment philosophy and strategies. If you are, by nature, impatient, it is unlikely that you will be able to sustain a strategy of buying undervalued companies and waiting for a long time for mistakes to correct. Similarly, if you are easily swayed by peer pressure and what the rest of the world is thinking and doing, it is difficult to be invested in contrarian causes, short-term or long-term. Finally, if your strategy requires special skills to be put into motion, you will have to either have or acquire those skills; a strategy built around finding undervalued companies will require that you know how to value companies and one built around analyzing large and complex datasets looking for mispricing needs statistical and data analysis knowhow.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;When investor characteristics and investment philosophy needs are mismatched, there are two negative consequences. The first is that, lacking staying power, &lt;i&gt;investors will abandon strategies well before they should&lt;/i&gt;, simply because they are uncomfortable with how they are playing out. The second is that a mismatch creates an &lt;i&gt;emotional cost&lt;/i&gt;, where investors struggle with their portfolios and fail what I call the sleep test, where their portfolio&#39;s gyrations keep them awake at night.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 5: Keep the feedback loop open&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you have found an investment philosophy that maps on to your market beliefs, found viable strategies that reflect that philosophy and matched it to your personal makeup, you have reached steady state, but only for the moment. That is because almost every part of this process is subject to change, some because of outside forces, and some because of personal changes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Economic setting&lt;/i&gt;: Over time, economic settings and structures change, and investment philosophies have to adapt or even be abandoned. For instance, I have argued that technology and disruption have created winner-take-all businesses in the twenty first century, and if you buy into that argument, an investment philosophy (and strategies) built around small cap companies will no longer deliver the payoff it did in the twentieth century.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Market lessons:&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;Your views on market mistakes come from looking at data and your own experiences in the market, and as a consequence, they should be revisited as markets change. Just in this century, markets have been tested by crises (the financial crisis of 2008, the COVID meltdown in 2020 and the tariff announcements last April, just to name three), and it is becoming increasingly obvious that assets across classes (stocks, real estate etc) and geographies are moving far more in sync with each other than they did in the last century. That reality has to be integrated into your market views and the investment philosophy/strategies that you use.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Trading microstructure&lt;/i&gt;: It is undeniable that access to information and trading on most assets has become easier over the last few decades. That is good, but it does come with a cost. Investment philosophies built around the assumption that most investors, especially retail and individual, would not be able to access data or trade easily, may need tweaking, adapting or even abandonment.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Personal changes&lt;/i&gt;: It won&#39;t come as no secret to you, but you will get older, the amount of capital you have to invest will change, your health and family obligations will shift, and you may even&amp;nbsp; become more or less patient or more or less susceptible to peer pressure. Those factors will all feed into your investment philosophy.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The investing world does not lend itself to absolutes. One of the red flags in investors (retail or institutional) is certitude about their investment choices and views, and an unwillingness to even consider alternatives, a sign that they will be unable to change as the world changes around them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Book, Class, both or neither?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;I like writing, not so much for its commercial potential, but because it allows to get my thoughts in order. I wrote the first edition of my investment philosophies book in ___, and it followed a structure that I have stayed true to, in subsequent editions. I start the book, with a description of what an investment philosophy is and how it first into the investment process, moving on a foundational section, where I look at risk measures, how to read accounting statements and do intrinsic valuation, how transactions costs and taxes drain returns, and at how to test investment strategies that claim to beat the market. In chapters 7 through 12, I spend each chapter looking at a broad investment philosophy (and related strategies), examining evidence for and against each one in the data before outlining what you (as an investor) need to bring to the table to succeed with each one. I close the book, by providing the sobering counter evidence to active investing, where I look at how difficult it to win at that game and the promise and peril of alternative investments (gold, cryptos, fine art, real estate).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgANzbeExVDBQJj0zsZ5Az7fhd2rfyhTYAfK-HuUMcx3WPs0-uwZCeCd_9F0NEx4q2psJ9HQ8OpSz_9trj-jrf9N9wE6nquy_9ARlNBfpL-8Ylo8CDwO0oXa-W56BlTzw7GAGMHBRdllCaSlfYstbKj7K8Bxu2RP8gdWFCnq5QojotRgR2Die0VWloAYbY/s1380/BookCoverage.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;576&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1380&quot; height=&quot;168&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgANzbeExVDBQJj0zsZ5Az7fhd2rfyhTYAfK-HuUMcx3WPs0-uwZCeCd_9F0NEx4q2psJ9HQ8OpSz_9trj-jrf9N9wE6nquy_9ARlNBfpL-8Ylo8CDwO0oXa-W56BlTzw7GAGMHBRdllCaSlfYstbKj7K8Bxu2RP8gdWFCnq5QojotRgR2Die0VWloAYbY/w400-h168/BookCoverage.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you have one of my earlier editions, is it worth upgrading? If you have the first edition, I do believe it is time, but if you do have the second edition and are budget-constrained, you can hold off. You can find the book online at Amazon and Barnes and Noble, with the latter offering a 25% discount, starting today (March 24).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In parallel, I developed a class that had the same content, and while the NYU certificate version of the class will cost you, I have had a free online version on my webpage, which I created in 2012. That class was in need of an update, and as I finished up the third edition of the book, I created a new version of this class, with forty two sessions covering the same material as the book. &lt;/span&gt;Again, if you have taken the earlier version of the class, you may find the material repetitive, but I hope that the updated data and the add ons allow for a richer experience. If you have never taken this class, and online learning works for you, it is designed for investors, individual as well as institutional, and requires little in terms of technical knowledge, and I hope that give it a shot.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Investing End Game&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;We all share the same end game in investing, which is to generate the highest returns on the capital we invest, though there are wide variations in how much risk we are willing to take and how long we will wait before cashing out. That is the definition of investment success, but given that there are so many forces that are out of our control, you can do everything right and still fail to meet your objectives, leaving you frustrated and questioning yourself. It is for that reason that a better endgame is to seek out investment serenity, where you end up with an investment path that you are comfortable with, and accept the results that emerge, good or bad. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I have spent this entire post talking about investment philosophies, and in case you have not noticed, I have not shown my hand, on my investment philosophy. I have never believed in hiding behind vague and opaque generalities, and my investment philosophy is built around three principles:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Intrinsic value matters&lt;/u&gt;: I believe that every asset (anything that generates cash flows) has a intrinsic value, and that with imagination and a willingness to make mistakes, you can estimate that intrinsic value for any company, from start-ups to companies on the verge of default. I believe that much of what passes for valuation in practice is pricing, where people using pricing metrics (such as PE ratios or EV to EBITDA multiples) to make pricing judgments, and that a good valuation requires understanding business models, telling stories and converting these stories into valuation inputs and value estimates.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Markets are for the most part right, but make mistakes during periods of uncertainty and change&lt;/u&gt;: I never cease to marvel at markets, where millions of individuals with disparate views and information reach consensus on a price. In an age where we have turned over our choices on what movies to watch to Rotten Tomatoes, and which restaurant to eat at to Yelp!, it is worth remembering that markets were the original fount for crowd wisdom. That said, it is also true that markets have provided us with illustrations of crowd madness, where the collective wisdom is hopelessly wrong, and I believe that this is often the case when investors face significant uncertainty, as is the case when companies transition from one stage of the life cycle to another, entire industry groups are faced with the threat of disruption and markets are put into upheaval by crises.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Do no harm&lt;/u&gt;: While I seek out investments to make that will beat the market, I am cognizant of the reality that I am not entitled to rewards, just because I put in the work, and that luck and chance still can wreak havoc on my best-laid plans. In particular, I have learned, through experience, that my biggest mistakes come from overreach and overactivity, and I have built that learning into my investment philosophy by:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Spreading my bets&lt;/i&gt;: I have written before about the concentration versus diversification argument, and that what you choose to do as an investor will be a reflection of how much confidence you have in your investment choices, or “conviction”, in investing parlance. I must confess that I don’t share the conviction that concentrated investors bring to the game, and not only spread my portfolio over three dozen stocks, but also follow rigid rules on not letting any single investment exceed 15% of my portfolio.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Acting rarely&lt;/i&gt;: I don’t trade often, and when I do, I follow the old adage of measuring twice (or three times) before cutting (trading). It helps that I don’t track the market or my portfolio holdings all day, almost never watch the financial news and am not easily swayed by investment sales pitches.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Staying away from my weaknesses&lt;/i&gt;: I steer away from active market timing and sector bets for a simple reason. I am not good at either, and what I might gain from an occasional win will be wiped out by what I lose in the long term.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Being aware of my blind spots&lt;/i&gt;: I try to be self-aware, though I don’t always succeed. 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I describe valuation as a craft, where you learn as you value companies, and in the process, there are times where you question how it is practiced, and try to find ways to do it better. I have learned my share of lessons in the four decades that I have practiced valuation, and I have often abandoned standard practices, in the hope of developing better ones. There is no input in valuation where I have found myself questioning existing practices more than in estimating the price of risk in equity markets, i.e., the equity risk premium, and I have wrestled with ways of coming up with alternatives. That endeavor was pushed into high gear by the 2008 market crisis, when&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;I started to pay more attention to how markets price risk, what causes that price of risk to change over time and the limitations in the ways that we estimate that price of risk in financial analysis.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Status Quo and Standard Practice&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Leading into 2008, I had long been skeptical about how we approached the estimation of equity risk premiums, &amp;nbsp;essential ingredients in hurdle rates in corporate finance and discount rates in valuation. It was (and still remains) standard practice to look at historical data, almost entirely from the US, on what stocks had earned over treasuries, and use that historical equity risk premium as the best estimate of the equity risk premium for the future, That approach would have yielded an equity risk premiums of between 5.5% to 14.5%, at the start of 2026, depending on the time period used, the way we compute averages and what we use as the riskfree rate.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0S4Rz4fT_T8GO4My8ar06z5U-GDxL4fxeF0yGsvlSEN_aW6jl4zKXuPYCRppr_rexW9PGAeP7sSkNmfoU3JRp9RXiO7557v4tc1N123_DLBdsHYJ-bDaeNqtFSGpBobq3TkKoExep5b-aGOH-OLgE3wtvc6viz8ymj5nlPti3D7NFaQy0LprRdLboKoI/s980/historicalERP.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;703&quot; data-original-width=&quot;980&quot; height=&quot;288&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0S4Rz4fT_T8GO4My8ar06z5U-GDxL4fxeF0yGsvlSEN_aW6jl4zKXuPYCRppr_rexW9PGAeP7sSkNmfoU3JRp9RXiO7557v4tc1N123_DLBdsHYJ-bDaeNqtFSGpBobq3TkKoExep5b-aGOH-OLgE3wtvc6viz8ymj5nlPti3D7NFaQy0LprRdLboKoI/w400-h288/historicalERP.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These historical equity risk premiums are not only backward-looking and very noisy (see the standard errors), but they allow bias to easily creep in, through the choice of equity risk premiums, with bullish (bearish) analysts picking lower (higher) numbers.&amp;nbsp; Disconcertingly, they also move in the wrong direction, falling during crises (as historical returns get updates) and rising during good times.&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Forward-Looking Alternative&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;To counter the problems that I saw with historical risk premiums, I started estimating forward-looking equity risk premiums, by essentially backing out from stock prices and expected cash flows, the expected return (internal rate of returns) that markets were pricing into stocks.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjZR_uCg3GKNpAeu7X_l_uby46HM56Pruv21ILKnAhJSKUu78h_qat39a80TSPIHLDCZ45mCJhDhtb5zIvPWuaL9LPfKmm7GoC3ssZDxTSLs6V3kdKaWp3fJgqShe4Wfl5TJn-ub7p9EX0oiT9FV0-4r8I7N_HD_2EdIv0KNl4hmH4nSkrnuWYvswKaw8A&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That approach yields forward-looking equity risk premiums, and while there is estimation error in the expected earnings growth and payout numbers, it yields vastly more precise estimates that are also model-agnostic. Using this approach, the equity risk premium at the start of 2026 was 4.23% (over the US treasury bond rate):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhnjssE9Gnjln8nS4oQn0RywtBHSf_DvzLIYSqkdPhKPzJnlVqLPQ_jvpG5FXIzJxZNMskEfIglcmPe71uz3TbHOBVCDVVdovLc17V0-jugttksLzPqoHLZMFJvzQxHk0gl6rG0krgszcGo12oGRXVzhbKek-9wt8ylsZ2uU6yRFt1KbJ0XxMn27AILUzM/s785/ERPJan2026Picture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;487&quot; data-original-width=&quot;785&quot; height=&quot;249&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhnjssE9Gnjln8nS4oQn0RywtBHSf_DvzLIYSqkdPhKPzJnlVqLPQ_jvpG5FXIzJxZNMskEfIglcmPe71uz3TbHOBVCDVVdovLc17V0-jugttksLzPqoHLZMFJvzQxHk0gl6rG0krgszcGo12oGRXVzhbKek-9wt8ylsZ2uU6yRFt1KbJ0XxMn27AILUzM/w400-h249/ERPJan2026Picture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Note that this estimation is model-agnostic, and is simply a measure of what markets are pricing in, given expected cash flows at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;ERP Estimation during Crises&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Unlike historical equity risk premiums, these implied premiums are sensitive to market gauges of fear and greed, and change, as those change. In fact, I computed the ERP, by day, during the 2008 market crisis, and you can see the shifts during that 14-week period below:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_gdtItVm5GFgbwz6SvuY9c1n-ENvp6hEBze_Tx7Mh_sbWYCdaC6DHypt0yBwqA9XyAoedZFebO73FAtCRELHuamX2HzmaLneE6g9qKIf7s8HFdzAlzwv-0Vhu_kVrHQXBt7Iz_c07qpsu1ljS9lB_4fMmUkbNxpi-rqeGNd32WN4NZFWB7AZJS3HoBVY/s896/Crisis2008.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;621&quot; data-original-width=&quot;896&quot; height=&quot;278&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_gdtItVm5GFgbwz6SvuY9c1n-ENvp6hEBze_Tx7Mh_sbWYCdaC6DHypt0yBwqA9XyAoedZFebO73FAtCRELHuamX2HzmaLneE6g9qKIf7s8HFdzAlzwv-0Vhu_kVrHQXBt7Iz_c07qpsu1ljS9lB_4fMmUkbNxpi-rqeGNd32WN4NZFWB7AZJS3HoBVY/w400-h278/Crisis2008.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Note that the crisis started with the equity risk premiums at 4.2% on September 12, 2008m but almost doubled over the next two months, as stocks went into free fall. To me, these implied equity risk premiums made far more intuitive sense, rising as market fears about banks and the economy rose.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I have continued with the practice of estimating equity risk premiums, by day, during market crises (real or perceived).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Here, for instance, is&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2016/06/&quot;&gt;my assessment of the UK market in 2016&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;in the weeks leading up to the Brexit vote, the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2021/01/data-update-2-for-2021-price-of-risk.html&quot;&gt;market reaction to COVID&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and the global economic shutdown in 2020, and how&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/04/anatomy-of-market-crisis-tariffs-rock.html&quot;&gt;the tariffs roiled markets last year.&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;In fact, as we wrestle with an war and oil price induced market shock in March 2026, I started my daily estimates for the ERP on March 1 and will report on how that price has changed over the last two weeks, in the next section.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Equity Risk Premiums - Lessons Learned&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;The process of estimating implied equity risk premiums on a continuing basis is driven less by intellectual curiosity and more by my need for these numbers, when I value companies. That process has taught me three lessons about equity risk premiums, and I have responded by altering my practices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1. The &lt;b&gt;equity risk premium is a dynamic and shifting number,&lt;/b&gt; and a good estimate of the premium should reflect this volatility. Using an equity risk premium that is different from the implied equity risk premium makes every valuation a joint judgment on what you think about the company and what you think about the market. Put simply, sticking with a 4% equity risk premium during a crisis, when the implied risk premium has surged to 6% will lead you to find most companies to be undervalued, almost entirely because you think that the market is undervalued (not the company). In my view, a company valuation should be market-neutral, and the only way you can get there is by using a current implied equity premium.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;My response: Rather than compute the implied equity risk premium at the start of every year, and using that premium over the course of the year, I shifted to computing the equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500 at the start of every month, in September 2008. &amp;nbsp;I report those numbers on my entry page to my website (&lt;a href=&quot;http://damodaran.com&quot;&gt;damodaran.com&lt;/a&gt;) and use them to value companies during the course of the month. You can find these monthly equity risk premium estimates by &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPbymonth.xlsx&quot;&gt;going to this link&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2. The &lt;b&gt;implied equity risk premium is a consolidated metric for market pricing&lt;/b&gt;, and every debate or discussion about whether the market is under or over priced can be reframed as a debate about whether the implied equity risk premium is too low (over pricing), just right (fairly priced) or too high (under pricing). Since the implied ERP incorporates the level of interest rates, expected growth and cash payout, it is a more complete assessment of the market than looking at dividend yields and earnings yields (or variants of PE ratios), two widely used proxies for market pricing. &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2023/08/the-price-of-risk-with-equity-risk.html&quot;&gt;In this post&lt;/a&gt;, I took an extended look at how these different measures of equity risk premiums measure up, in terms of predicting future equity returns.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;My response: I have been open about my discomfort with timing markets, but when I am asked what I think of the overall market (Is it too high? Is it a bubble?), I first measure the current equity risk premium and then assess it against history. I used this technique to assess US equities at the start of this year in a post, with the accompanying graph:&amp;nbsp;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjVYC9BxqkXCn6dfH8uIqi7hk9rC0IJY5HqB6smsqAEltq-QRodpSVZxqnDPqWiJvzgTWEFwP1riXSJF_It1MUaWMxLPQruY-NE9yMdttmHcvSMX19Xv96IAcTmG2y8tgGethoXlaAcYia-RlfO1Wp0pkoPj9A_qWOmOhbVydXKE3CIMoJrNdQsh4CSCDY/s1320/HistImplERP.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;888&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1320&quot; height=&quot;269&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjVYC9BxqkXCn6dfH8uIqi7hk9rC0IJY5HqB6smsqAEltq-QRodpSVZxqnDPqWiJvzgTWEFwP1riXSJF_It1MUaWMxLPQruY-NE9yMdttmHcvSMX19Xv96IAcTmG2y8tgGethoXlaAcYia-RlfO1Wp0pkoPj9A_qWOmOhbVydXKE3CIMoJrNdQsh4CSCDY/w400-h269/HistImplERP.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;My conclusion, at the start of 2026, was that while stocks were richly priced using almost every conventional metric (high PE ratios, low dividend yields), the implied equity risk premium was in line with what US stocks have generated over the last 65 years. That said, I did note that 2025 was a tumultuous year, with tariffs making the news and the post-war dollar-centric global economic system starting to fray, and argued that the market seems to be too sanguine about catastrophic risk. Almost on cue, two weeks ago, bombs started falling in the Middle East, and US equities and bonds have been struggling to price in the effects of higher oil prices. In keeping with my practice of estimating equity risk daily, during troubled times, I did compute the implied ERP for the S&amp;amp;P 500 every day, during the last two weeks (Feb 27- March 13):&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0814fd9OaJf00vpWd5LMu79V3cOVwppPUuM0C012FlQGjMESn_AbseWP3X00UC_CJe5I901WikJY9nnRkrCt5NLGQ3T8ODJDu9NSq55ReYvKud5eNuQ2-ZhbgoXTVsCDHZt0uLd3FRqFqpSG738g_t4YlDpiUD7FcVvd86KoX4wCyrh_1WY48HWsgoYQ/s1606/OilCrisisOneChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;588&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1606&quot; height=&quot;146&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0814fd9OaJf00vpWd5LMu79V3cOVwppPUuM0C012FlQGjMESn_AbseWP3X00UC_CJe5I901WikJY9nnRkrCt5NLGQ3T8ODJDu9NSq55ReYvKud5eNuQ2-ZhbgoXTVsCDHZt0uLd3FRqFqpSG738g_t4YlDpiUD7FcVvd86KoX4wCyrh_1WY48HWsgoYQ/w400-h146/OilCrisisOneChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oil is up to over a hundred dollars a barrel and the S&amp;amp;P 500 is down, but so far, the market is not behaving as if it is in crisis mode. The equity risk premium, which started March at 4.37% has risen, but only to 4.51%, over the two weeks. In fact, it is the ten-year US treasury bond that has had the bigger surge, up from 3.97% at close of trading, on February 27, to 4.28% at close of trading, on March 13, indicating inflation fears are trumping other market concerns right now. All of this could change next week or the week after, and I will continue to track the equity risk premiums, by day, until the market settles in.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;3. The &lt;b&gt;equity risk premium is an essential ingredient into almost every part of financial analysis&lt;/b&gt;, incorporated into hurdle rates in corporate finance, discount rates in valuation and in expected returns on equity in financial planning. Given this centrality, I was surprised how little attention it has received from both academics and practitioners, when I looked for references. There is very little usable academic research on equity risk premiums specifically, though there is a great deal on asset pricing and risk. As for practitioners, they have, for the most part, relied on historical risk premiums, and often obtain these premiums from services that summarize the historical data. When I took my first finance class, the historical risk premiums came from data from Ibbotson Associates, that contained annual return data on stocks, bonds and bills. That data was acquired by Duff and Phelps, where it became part of a voluminous book on cost of capital, but much of what that book had to say about equity risk premiums reflected slicing and dicing the historical data, hoping to get further insights, and for the most part failing, because of the noisiness in the data. The US historical data is now in the hands of Kroll, but there is little of value that be extracted by doing deeper and deeper mining expeditions on historical return data. In fact, if you are a fan of historical equity risk premiums (I am not, as you can guess), my suggestion would be to use the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ubs.com/global/en/investment-bank/insights-and-data/2025/global-investment-returns-yearbook-2025/_jcr_content/root/contentarea/mainpar/toplevelgrid_copy/col_1/innergrid_copy/col_2/actionbutton.0813156672.file/PS9jb250ZW50L2RhbS9hc3NldHMvd20vc3RhdGljL2Npby9kb2N1bWVudHMvZ2lyeS0yMDI1LXN1bW1hcnktcHVibGljLnBkZg==/giry-2025-summary-public.pdf&quot;&gt;Credit Suisse Yearbook&lt;/a&gt;, which looks at historical equity risk premiums in 20 markets over more than a hundred years, and does not suffer from the selection bias of focusing on just US data.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;My response: I am a practitioner and I decided, for my own understanding, to pull together everything I knew about equity risk premiums into a paper that I wrote in early 2009, and shared online that year. Practitioners seemed to find it useful, and I have updated that paper every year since, at the start of the year. It has grown over time, as I have sought to pull together new findings on equity risk premiums and incorporate changes in markets, and my &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6361419&quot;&gt;seventeenth annual update is now ready&lt;/a&gt;. I have to confess that at this point, much of the change is data-driven, with tables and graphs updated to include the most recent year&#39;s data, but I hope you still find it useful. The paper resides on the social science research network (SSRN), an Elsevier-run platform for working papers in the social sciences. Unlike most of the other papers on that platform, I have no interest is ever publishing this paper, but you are welcome to download not just the paper, but all of the data that goes with the paper.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Equity Risk Premiums - The 2026 Edition&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;If you do get a chance to download the paper, I should warn you ahead of time that it long (153 pages), unexciting and entirely directed at practitioners. It is modular, though, and it is broadly broken down into the following sections:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. The Determinants of Equity Risk Premiums&lt;/i&gt;: Given that equity risk premiums represent the price of risk in the market, it should come as no surprise that almost everything that happens in the market, political or economic, affect its level. The picture below summarizes the determinants, and you can find more details in the paper:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgU9urAUuwd846oEf77do6A7yDem2t-DEyNSJ08PBDodJpRp2O_pCRzX8k2RhwqJYM-0I5CKkxcyzH7xzAnYEbw7vwXlarKH991k9W4sV1ZF6TrXf5l7_wjrIvH_NfV6Shyphenhyphen6a9FpJwgPW4JuOd0R3Vg7DbCYNo4RkVquoEgwD1Of1PakbDrwjhgoy40_Y4/s665/ERPDeterminants.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;504&quot; data-original-width=&quot;665&quot; height=&quot;304&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgU9urAUuwd846oEf77do6A7yDem2t-DEyNSJ08PBDodJpRp2O_pCRzX8k2RhwqJYM-0I5CKkxcyzH7xzAnYEbw7vwXlarKH991k9W4sV1ZF6TrXf5l7_wjrIvH_NfV6Shyphenhyphen6a9FpJwgPW4JuOd0R3Vg7DbCYNo4RkVquoEgwD1Of1PakbDrwjhgoy40_Y4/w400-h304/ERPDeterminants.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;As you can see, all of these variables can and will change over time, explaining why the ERP should be a volatile number.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. Historical Equity Risk Premiums (and spin offs)&lt;/i&gt;: I spend a section of the paper discussing historical equity risk premiums, examining the statistical properties that make it a faulty approach, and why a belief in mean reversion has made it the status quo. While most of the historical equity risk premiums that you see reported in practice come from the US and are based upon the Ibbotson data going back to 1926, I also look at historical data that goes back further (to 1871) as well as historical premiums in the rest of the world. The historical data on returns in the US has also been mined by services to extract premiums that have been earned by subsets of stocks, and since these premiums often get used by practitioners, I look at the efficacy of these premiums. I specifically look at the small cap premium, a widely used add on in valuation, and not that not only has it been noisy over the entire time period (1926-2025), but that it has disappeared since 1981:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjoSwbiARVilsVokREfyuIshJQeESDcV-zBcmQZEs3aBSFhyphenhyphen80yQhDlMskJ9irpJAdWvnvtGbC3vwrTFh4CJ7vPYIWOGTSPG2qIejgHR-4zdxxKwY2LcucA9pYpdqGSelplbx00MCxqWDlLH6QJmdiQb5od5LH-QxrZiB-4NstySn0TJkET0ur4b5Ea9XM/s1844/smallcappremiumBystarting%20year.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1304&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1844&quot; height=&quot;283&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjoSwbiARVilsVokREfyuIshJQeESDcV-zBcmQZEs3aBSFhyphenhyphen80yQhDlMskJ9irpJAdWvnvtGbC3vwrTFh4CJ7vPYIWOGTSPG2qIejgHR-4zdxxKwY2LcucA9pYpdqGSelplbx00MCxqWDlLH6QJmdiQb5od5LH-QxrZiB-4NstySn0TJkET0ur4b5Ea9XM/w400-h283/smallcappremiumBystarting%20year.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The fact that the small cap premium endures in practice is a testimonial to how once bad practices become embedded in valuation, they never leave.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;3. &lt;i&gt;Equity Risk Premiums, by country&lt;/i&gt;: While I &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5354459&quot;&gt;do have a companion paper &lt;/a&gt;that explores country risk in detail, that I update in the middle of the year, I describe my process for estimating equity risk premiums, by country, starting with a mature market premium, and then adding on additional premiums, based on country default risk spreads (based on ratings and sovereign CDS spreads).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhF76uxz-cJPURtbjU6_qCORCXDD66_kU87r1deJjKjWwY84tL968QwDobBCmZvgs5HpV5EMm130YDiXYHjLQNJ7c3kK85NxVQqN_JOTawEIbaHyX0-7Z3I2OMhg-CjNDMA2YyaYdBm_sOVgtqtfsWPkVv1WNK_1Rlf89z3jf5PRoPYDDKIvMZ4EQJ-RBs/s1162/CountryERPPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;866&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1162&quot; height=&quot;297&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhF76uxz-cJPURtbjU6_qCORCXDD66_kU87r1deJjKjWwY84tL968QwDobBCmZvgs5HpV5EMm130YDiXYHjLQNJ7c3kK85NxVQqN_JOTawEIbaHyX0-7Z3I2OMhg-CjNDMA2YyaYdBm_sOVgtqtfsWPkVv1WNK_1Rlf89z3jf5PRoPYDDKIvMZ4EQJ-RBs/w400-h297/CountryERPPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;4. &lt;i&gt;Implied Equity Risk Premiums and Alternatives&lt;/i&gt;: In this section, I start with a description of an intrinsic value model for the market, and use that model to illustrate what you would need to assume for the dividends yield or earnings yield to become reasonable proxies for the equity risk premiums; for the latter, for instance, you have to assume either that there is no earnings growth or that if there is growth, it is value neutral. I then use the full version of the model, allowing for higher growth and cash payout that includes buybacks, to derive my implied equity risk premium estimates. I also look at how my implied equity risk premium estimates relate to other risk proxies (default spreads on bonds, VIX etc.) and how they change over time, as the riskfree rate changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXyYN6C4nVRPasA8FRKtVe24sUw0h2CKqjmoTT3036f2DDpOowktW7Myvk-LTKNGlhBpWIGyqyPONbDUtVyrZZNhW0Gdsz9Y_KiyZZuBmhTXQ_rYER6m6BP9zXEtdN9KX6DUqytNSzgzJGDgUcIBeHqx5Bv2Q51KIth5XxZ0iy9F_4D9RRzz0f6oZ6awA/s1840/EPvsERP.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1338&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1840&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXyYN6C4nVRPasA8FRKtVe24sUw0h2CKqjmoTT3036f2DDpOowktW7Myvk-LTKNGlhBpWIGyqyPONbDUtVyrZZNhW0Gdsz9Y_KiyZZuBmhTXQ_rYER6m6BP9zXEtdN9KX6DUqytNSzgzJGDgUcIBeHqx5Bv2Q51KIth5XxZ0iy9F_4D9RRzz0f6oZ6awA/w400-h291/EPvsERP.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;5. &lt;i&gt;Efficacy of ERP Estimates&lt;/i&gt;: The test of whether an equity risk premium estimate is a good one is in the data, since equity risk premiums measure expectations of what investors hope to earn on equities in future periods. In the last section of the paper, I examine the predictive efficacy of alternative measures of equity risk premiums, by looking at their correlation with actual stock market returns in the next year, the next five years and the next ten years:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUUY62CqmbUnrxKen34fPW1SCmgTMnlLB0DN65tuIPbmYa-GKN4TR3pBAm79TnCWl48E05F00h_vWk8ydVC6vOakyTLDEXHpAJAruEcxY-ivLxwcMkTpVcA6JrtERe2PGjJli8aT-HJAwxxrd6D5aYDXhyMQuwBKBYJRL4ipUDywk5F2AlHamgKaS82WQ/s1300/ERPCorrelationwithActual.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;606&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1300&quot; height=&quot;186&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUUY62CqmbUnrxKen34fPW1SCmgTMnlLB0DN65tuIPbmYa-GKN4TR3pBAm79TnCWl48E05F00h_vWk8ydVC6vOakyTLDEXHpAJAruEcxY-ivLxwcMkTpVcA6JrtERe2PGjJli8aT-HJAwxxrd6D5aYDXhyMQuwBKBYJRL4ipUDywk5F2AlHamgKaS82WQ/w400-h186/ERPCorrelationwithActual.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Since a good ERP estimate should have a large positive correlation with actual returns on stocks in future years, the current implied premium does best for the five-year and ten-year return, and the historical risk premium does worst, with actual returns increasing (decreasing) when it decreases (increases). In bad news for market timers, none of the equity risk premium approaches does well at forecasting next year&#39;s actual return, and even at the longer time periods, there is significant error in predictions.&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Paper&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6361419&quot;&gt;Equity Risk Premiums (ERP): Determinants, Implications and Estimates - The 2026 Edition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histretSP.xlsx&quot;&gt;Historical returns on US asset classes (1928 -2025)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histimpl.xlsx&quot;&gt;Implied Equity Risk Premiums, at end of year (1960-2025)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPbymonth.xlsx&quot;&gt;Implied Equity Risk Premiums, start of each month (Sept 2008 - March 2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/ctryprem.xlsx&quot;&gt;Equity Risk Premiums, by country, at the start of 2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;Spreadsheets&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPMarch26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Spreadsheet to compute implied ERP - S&amp;amp;P 500 on February 27, 2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8156157848831825981/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/8156157848831825981' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8156157848831825981'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8156157848831825981'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/03/the-price-of-risk-equity-risk-premium.html' title='The Price of Risk: An Equity Risk Premium Monologue!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0S4Rz4fT_T8GO4My8ar06z5U-GDxL4fxeF0yGsvlSEN_aW6jl4zKXuPYCRppr_rexW9PGAeP7sSkNmfoU3JRp9RXiO7557v4tc1N123_DLBdsHYJ-bDaeNqtFSGpBobq3TkKoExep5b-aGOH-OLgE3wtvc6viz8ymj5nlPti3D7NFaQy0LprRdLboKoI/s72-w400-h288-c/historicalERP.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-4767717767085968040</id><published>2026-03-04T17:10:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2026-03-04T17:10:57.588-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="AI"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Disruption"/><title type='text'>AI Scenarios: From Doomsday Destruction to Do-Nothing Bots!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; When Chat GPT made its debut on November 30, 2022, it unleashed the hype of AI, and in the three years since, AI has taken on an outsized role not just in markets, but also in our lives. For much of the time, the AI story has been told by its advocates and its salespeople, and the companies in the AI ecosystem have benefited. Not surprisingly, given that its narrators benefit from this growth, that story has emphasized the positive, with dazzling AI use cases and optimistic extrapolation of the productivity gains from its adoption. In the last few months, we have seen cracks emerge in the AI story, with investors wondering when, and in what form, the immense investments in AI architecture will pay off, and how if they pay off, the businesses that they disrupt will fare. That disquiet has played out as negative market reactions to new AI investments at Meta and Amazon, a markdown in software company market capitalizations and in a sell off last week, in response, at least partially, to an AI scenario assessment from Citrini Research, a publisher of macro and stock research. Given that I know very little about the technology of AI, and that my macroeconomic knowhow is pedestrian,&amp;nbsp; my intent in this post is less about promoting my favored AI scenario, and more about providing a framework for you to develop your own.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Citrini AI Assessment - Report and Responses&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic&quot;&gt;Citrini AI assessment&lt;/a&gt; came out on February 22, 2026, and it starts with a preface stating that it is presenting a scenario, not a prediction. I do have issues with that opening, but I will come to them later, but the report itself laid out a story for AI that unfolds with a dark end game for the economy, where by June 30, 2028, the AI disruption has unsettled businesses and displaced workers, with unemployment rates rising above 10% and the market down almost 40% in response. There have been other AI doomsayers, but many of those doomsday scenarios are built around the storyline that AI will not live up to its promise, and the pain comes from having over invested trillions of dollars in building its architecture. In contrast, the Citrini AI&amp;nbsp; story is built on the expectation that not only does AI work well at doing tasks currently performed by white collar professionals, across a range of firms, but its adoption happens very quickly. The pain in the Citrini story comes from that disruption creating substantial job losses, and especially so among higher-earning workers, and the resulting loss of income driving these job losers to cut back on consumption. The ripple effects play out across businesses, with default risks and spreads rising, private credit collapsing and the market and economy pricing in the pain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I do think that there are major flaws in the steps leading to the economic implosion in the Citrini assessment, but credit should be given where it is due. I have always been troubled by how much we have worshiped at the altar of disruption in this century, putting the founders of disruptors on pedestals and preaching disruption&#39;s virtue. In keeping with Joseph Schumpeter&#39;s description of capitalism as built around creative destruction, I do believe that a vibrant and dynamic economy needs a shake-up and challenging of the status quo, but disruption comes with costs to the businesses that are disrupted, and to the people who work in them. There is much to celebrate, as consumers, in terms of choice and price from the growth of online retail, but that does not take away from the devastation that has been wreaked on brick-and-mortar retail and its constituent parts. Ride sharing has brought car service from its nineteenth century ways into the twenty first century, but at the expense of yellow cabs and conventional car service businesses. The reason that many AI advocates took issue with the Citrini report was precisely because it bought into their sales pitch of how AI bots can not only do what lawyers, bankers, software engineers and consultants do, but also do them better, and then asked the question of &quot;what then?.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The Citrini AI scenario must have hit some targets, because in the days since, we have been flooded with scenarios countering Citrini and arriving at different outcomes. While I was not surprised to see Goldman Sachs, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.economy.com/getfile?q=2B555C90-1118-4A49-BDAA-5C0A99F83A9E&amp;amp;app=download#:~:text=There%20may%20be%20bouts%20of,income%20and%20wealth%20it%20creates.&quot;&gt;Moody&#39;s&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://privatebank.jpmorgan.com/apac/en/insights/markets-and-investing/tmt/why-ai-might-strain-the-economy-before-it-booms&quot;&gt;JP Morgan&lt;/a&gt; jump in with their AI scenarios, with more benign outcomes for the economy, where the job loss and income effects from AI are modest and temporary, I was surprised to see Citadel wade into the argument, with &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.citadelsecurities.com/news-and-insights/2026-global-intelligence-crisis/&quot;&gt;a direct rebuttal to Citrini&lt;/a&gt;, which sees a much more positive end game from AI disruption, and is built around three pillars. The first is the&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;current data on jobs and layoffs&lt;/i&gt; in the businesses most directly targeted by AI, such as software, where they note that while jobs have been shed, the job losses have been modest, and AI adoption trends don’t see breakouts consistent with the speedy disruption predicted by Citrini. The second is &lt;i&gt;history&lt;/i&gt;, where they look at disruptions in the past (PCs, the internet) and note that none of them have been speedy or have created the job losses or economic collapses predicted in the doomsday scenario. The third is grounded in &lt;i&gt;macroeconomics,&lt;/i&gt; where they point to the inconsistency of assuming&amp;nbsp; that a large positive productive shock, from AI’s success, will play out out as large negative shock to the economy and market in which it happens.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Completing the AI story&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The problem with all of these AI scenarios is that they are rooted in the weakest of responses to uncertainty, which is to either pick a scenario and to describe it in detail, without establishing, at least in qualitative terms, how likely that scenario is, in the first place, or to list out a whole host of scenarios, without making judgments on likelihood on eany of them. It is entirely possible that what Citrini was presenting was a &quot;worst-case&quot; scenario (I read through the report and could not get a sense of if this was so, and the subsequent responses from Citrini have only muddied the waters), a &quot;low likelihood&quot; scenario or the &quot;likely scenario&quot; of how AI will unfold. If it is a likely scenario, and you buy into the pitch, the investment and personal consequences will be dramatic, since it is entirely possible that, if you are a white-collar worker, you may have lost your job by June 2028, and your savings, if invested in stocks, would have taken a beating. If it is a &quot;low likelihood&quot; scenario, and you are exposed, because of your job, age and portfolio composition, you should consider buying protection, but if it is a worst-case scenario, it is almost entirely useless, except for shock value.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Point Estimates and Probabilities&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;For much of its history, financial analysis has been built around point estimates, where you identify key drivers, estimate the effects on your bottom line (earnings, cash flows) and make your best judgments. Thus, when valuing a company, you estimate the earnings growth on base year earning, how much you will reinvest of those earnings to grow to get to cash flows, and discount those cash flows back at a risk-adjusted rate to get to value. The problem with point estimates, where almost everything is uncertain is that you will be wrong 100% of the time, though you may still make money, if you are wrong in the right direction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Financial analysts and economics have been slow in adopting and using probabilistic approaches, where point estimates are replaced by distributions, and a single judgment on outcome by a distribution of outcomes. One reason, at least early on, was that economists and financial analysts often did not have rich enough data or powerful enough tools to use decision trees, simulations or scenario analysis in making their macroeconomic and investment judgments, but that is no longer true. Another reason may be that many in this group are uncomfortable with statistical distributions or probability estimates and stay away from using them, because of that discomfort. The third reason, at least for a subset of analysts, is a concern that being open about estimates and the errors in those estimates, which is visible to all in probabilistic approaches, will be viewed as a sign of weakness or lack of conviction on their part. I have a s&lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm?abstractid=3237778&amp;amp;__cf_chl_tk=MEJHJC7AEIZngrNjyAAKWNStJvuFkkVBUJNvy3zC9QI-1772561121-1.0.1.1-jwmcvh9oW2AxXkiyKvi2E5ONuCjGm_h5zQ0f8c4iAA8&quot;&gt;hort paper on using probabilistic approaches&lt;/a&gt;, where I look not only at when you may want to use which approach (I look at decision trees, simulations and scenario analysis) but also have a short review of statistical distributions, if you are interested.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Since Citrini specifically titled their AI thought piece as a scenario, I will stick with scenario analysis in this post. In its most sloppy form, and one that has been around for decades, scenario analysis has taken the form of best case - base case - worst case scenarios, an almost useless exercise, since there are almost no risky investments that are going to pass muster under the worst case scenario, no matter how good they are, or are going to fail under the best case scenario, no matter how bad they are. A scenario analysis, done right, should look at scenarios that cover all possible outcomes on an investment or decision, and for completion, need probabilities attached to these scenarios, which can then be used by a decision maker to estimate expected values. That will be almost impossible to do if you are trying to work out future pathways to AI, since it is so early in the process and so little is known about outcomes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There is an alternate path for scenario analysis that is less information-intensive and thus more feasible, and it draws on the 3P test that I &amp;nbsp;use when valuing companies, where my company valuation narrative has to start with the possible test (it can happen) to being plausible (which requires more backing) and then on to the probable (where you can estimate a likelihood). In the context of scenario analysis, this would require that you categorize scenarios into their the three groupings:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjozt7lnG7yekf5qj7znkz5LnuCF21Rr_QcI13fyUZS2gvz4GvlpxiZsuPCyji6PXiC1F7fkqx9-kPqhOpb9O6E7FJEd9ChMDcE4RF8J_ZiSOeJftbmcq8yHMhIf5P-AHwlzgQpDXBJBasMH7HOIOCv7fHBZlpMlWur_LiZOQzc-hHEYXm9RG-9V8mNP5Q/s788/3PScenarios.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;376&quot; data-original-width=&quot;788&quot; height=&quot;191&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjozt7lnG7yekf5qj7znkz5LnuCF21Rr_QcI13fyUZS2gvz4GvlpxiZsuPCyji6PXiC1F7fkqx9-kPqhOpb9O6E7FJEd9ChMDcE4RF8J_ZiSOeJftbmcq8yHMhIf5P-AHwlzgQpDXBJBasMH7HOIOCv7fHBZlpMlWur_LiZOQzc-hHEYXm9RG-9V8mNP5Q/w400-h191/3PScenarios.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;The discussion around where AI is going would become much healthier if scenario proponents were required to state where their proposed scenarios fall in this spectrum. Citrini, for instance, could have saved itself from some of the backlash, if the writer of the AI doomsday report had specified that it was a possible, but not quite plausible scenario.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;The AI Disruption - Gaming the Outcomes&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;In the last week, I have seen at least a dozen scenarios touted by individuals and entities, many of whom I respect, and I must confess that I am whipsawed. If, like me, you are drowning in these scenarios, with very different results and outcomes, the only way to retain your sanity and to take ownership of this process is for you to develop a framework where you can not only put each of these scenarios to the 3P test, but also to develop your own assessment of how AI will play out for businesses, investors and the economy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. The Disruption - Form and Speed&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The first set of questions that you need to address in the AI story relate to how the AI disruption will evolve, both in form and timing, and to then trace out the aftereffects.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;AI Disruption Magnitude - Worker Displacement versus Productivity-enhancing Tools:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;If you listen to some of AI’s lead players, AI will have the capacity to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.axios.com/2025/05/28/ai-jobs-white-collar-unemployment-anthropic&quot;&gt;replace workers across multiple businesses&lt;/a&gt;, as it develops strengths that go beyond the purely mechanical. One reason that the AI effect on unemployment is so large in the Citrini doomsday scenario is because AI’s reach in the scenario is not just restricted to replacing programmers in software but extends to replacing white collar workers in other technology businesses, financial intermediaries, banking and consulting. In contrast, Citadel’s more benign AI reading comes from AI displacing workers in a smaller subset of businesses, while providing tools in others. At the other end of the spectrum, there are still some who believe that when all is said and done, AI will provide tools to workers that may save them time, but will not be powerful or dependable enough to replace them.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;AI Disruption Speed:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;Here again, there is disagreement, with some AI optimists believing that its disruption of regular businesses is imminent, whether displacing workers or in giving them tools. Others believe that AI adoption will&amp;nbsp;take time, partly because the tools need work and partly because businesses and workers are slow to adapt to change. The Federal Reserve in St. Louis has created a tracker of AI adoption rates across users, and while it does not capture the depth of the AI adoption, it does provide a measure of how much familiarity and comfort that users are acquiring, with AI tools.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgGMHBAS1R5GiNbxHuQ7h515C69LgMa8XC0huVJNPukg6Ng6oUGZ16vwYBLF0iQB7XYrrOeB634ybb6SHqZ_y1qONIZVhKyGMawmdYw17iDDRR6a6zPA6VSsMJLUpI1_ZrMJtYS4iCRpJoCrm45GJo-Rr1hvQkbwzmSeIMZDvBNYPgLFZRLekTqjau7HQc/s2178/AIAdoptionTrendsFed.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2178&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1858&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgGMHBAS1R5GiNbxHuQ7h515C69LgMa8XC0huVJNPukg6Ng6oUGZ16vwYBLF0iQB7XYrrOeB634ybb6SHqZ_y1qONIZVhKyGMawmdYw17iDDRR6a6zPA6VSsMJLUpI1_ZrMJtYS4iCRpJoCrm45GJo-Rr1hvQkbwzmSeIMZDvBNYPgLFZRLekTqjau7HQc/w341-h400/AIAdoptionTrendsFed.jpg&quot; width=&quot;341&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With the caveats about survey data in place, there are interesting trends in these surveys. First, the use of Gen AI tools in non-work settings has grown more than its usage at work, an indication perhaps of how personal devices (phones, in particular) have changed technology adoption rates. Second, the time that AI has saved people, at least so far, has been modest, ranging from less than 1% in the accommodation and food businesses to about 4% in information and management of companies. Overall, this graph suggests that AI usage is neither as explosively fast growing nor as much of a time-saver, as its proponents suggest that it is. The pushback, though, is that these are surveys of the general population, and that there are data points indicating that the disruption effects are more substantial including the substantial write down in market capitalizations of software companies and layoffs at tech companies. The announcement by Block, the fintech company founded by Jack Dorsey, that it would it be &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.wsj.com/business/jack-dorseys-block-to-lay-off-4-000-employees-in-ai-remake-28f0d869?&quot;&gt;letting go of almost 40% of its workforce&lt;/a&gt;, for instance, and blaming AI&#39;s rise for the action, was viewed as an indicator of AI&#39;s disruption potential. That is a noisy signal, though, since many tech companies have bloated work forces, and AI gives them easy cover, when correcting past mistakes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is true that there is no crystal ball that you can use to gauge the magnitude and speed of AI disruption, but every AI scenario that you see starts with a judgment on one or both.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. The Disruption Aftershocks&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Disruptions create aftershocks, some positive and some negative, and while we often avert our gaze and attention from the latter, a full assessment requires considering both. With AI, the positive effects take the form of &lt;b&gt;higher productivity&lt;/b&gt;, as it either allows people to do their jobs more efficiently (with AI tools) or actually replaces people and does their jobs instead, in effect allowing for more output with less labor. Relating back to the different pathways that AI disruption can take, both in form and in form and speed, I would hypothesize that these disruption benefits will be a function of how AI disruption plays out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Proposition 1: The disruption benefits from AI disruption will be greater from people displacement than from AI productivity tools&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Proposition 2: The productivity effects from AI disruption will decrease, at least in economic value terms, the longer it takes for the AI disruption to unfold.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The negative effects of AI, in economic terms, will come from the immediate &lt;b&gt;displacement of people,&lt;/b&gt; if AI replaces labor, or from the &lt;b&gt;decrease in employees needed &lt;/b&gt;to get tasks done, if AI tools make existing employees more efficient. Here again, I would hypothesize that these disruption costs will be &amp;nbsp;function of how the disruption plays out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Proposition 3: The disruption costs from AI disruption will be greater from people displacement than from tools, as those laid off lose income and spending power.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Proposition 4: The productivity costs from AI disruption will decrease, at least in economic value terms, the longer it takes for the AI disruption to unfold, since time will allow new entrants into labor markets to adjust to a disrupted business&amp;nbsp;world.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Intuitively, the longer it takes AI to find roots in business, the more time it gives workers time to adjust, retrain or move on. As you can see, t&lt;i&gt;he scenarios where AI displaces existing employees and happens quickly are the ones with the biggest benefits and the biggest costs&lt;/i&gt;, and the &lt;i&gt;scenarios where AI supplies tools to existing employees and happens slowly has the least benefits and costs.&lt;/i&gt; Building on this theme, I see the net effect of AI disruption playing out as follows:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;style type=&quot;text/css&quot;&gt;
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&lt;/style&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj69uhsc8wcwY42n6kxHuXs-EOIrSzb1uwIJ-C55eWUiScT36asKfEyoTbn24WVMH3VSoHJdEtinwc1ojjlFMrZbaDjjsdS-2FG4t1HIPPcHevAPrJUg_SPaBgLfWta1rDJAi5edRmHtEXTRlIsHViHwNvtoCC5hgco2YZi-fwlNNFB9-Spllssnfn2J54/s1068/AIDisruptionEffect.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;988&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1068&quot; height=&quot;370&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj69uhsc8wcwY42n6kxHuXs-EOIrSzb1uwIJ-C55eWUiScT36asKfEyoTbn24WVMH3VSoHJdEtinwc1ojjlFMrZbaDjjsdS-2FG4t1HIPPcHevAPrJUg_SPaBgLfWta1rDJAi5edRmHtEXTRlIsHViHwNvtoCC5hgco2YZi-fwlNNFB9-Spllssnfn2J54/w400-h370/AIDisruptionEffect.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;If AI disruption displaces existing workforces, across many businesses, and happens quickly, the net effect is likely to be negative, at least in the near term&lt;/i&gt;, since the economy will not only have to absorb major layoffs quickly, but also because those laid off will be higher-earning white collar workers. While that maps on to the Citrini doomsday scenario, there is still much to debate about which industries will see the most job displacement and how quickly these workers will find other jobs. There is also a discussion that should follow, even in this negative net-benefit scenario, of how quickly the economy (and workers) will adapt, and if and whether net benefits will turn positive in the long term. I&lt;i&gt;f AI job displacement is on a limited scale, and/or takes time to unfold, both the benefits and the costs of the AI disruption become smaller, but the net benefit is more likely to be positive,&lt;/i&gt; in the short and long term. Finally, the AI disruption takes the form of tools that make workers more efficient, but not efficient enough to reduce workforces, both the benefits and costs of AI become much smaller. In fact, if these tools take a long time to craft and displace little or no labor you get the AI disruption fizzle, with very small benefits and costs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;3. The 3P Test&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Staying true to my earlier assertion that scenarios without probability estimates are not useful, I will try to put the various AI scenarios that I mapped out in the last section on the &amp;nbsp;3P continuum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj25RXGQsPj-ZLE7Y9TmfE-TSUKfkxbQOyz386xferiWWCF5Rl6yoI1i38jzTuffAYSNwNZZB2rBTphCMVRCpZ4gxyYxN4uAj-6XOaDuPtZmY8hmUqMu3IziEU7AoWXRKYT9g73h83rhUZimfd15BRYc-TaJzIAiTyl1ZQgT7eCH54PrxaJTUTbrlG3xQA/s1680/Scenario3PTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;266&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1680&quot; height=&quot;70&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj25RXGQsPj-ZLE7Y9TmfE-TSUKfkxbQOyz386xferiWWCF5Rl6yoI1i38jzTuffAYSNwNZZB2rBTphCMVRCpZ4gxyYxN4uAj-6XOaDuPtZmY8hmUqMu3IziEU7AoWXRKYT9g73h83rhUZimfd15BRYc-TaJzIAiTyl1ZQgT7eCH54PrxaJTUTbrlG3xQA/w438-h70/Scenario3PTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;438&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Let me start with the &lt;i&gt;two possible, but not quite plausible scenarios&lt;/i&gt;. The first is the a s&lt;i&gt;peedy, massive AI disruption&lt;/i&gt;, where AI displaces worker across most businesses, and does so quickly, as visualized by Citrini. It can happen, but given the history of disruption, the limits of AI technology and inertia in the process, it is implausible. At the other extreme, it is possible that AI provides tools to workers that improve productivity marginally, with many ending up being more distractions than tools for productivity, effectively emptying its destructive potential, but that too strikes me as implausible, given what we are seeing in terms of AI capabilities. The most plausible scenarios are ones where AI displaces workers in some industries, such as software and some financial intermediaries, and provides tools that help workers to varying degrees in other businesses. As for probable, I think that disruption will reduce workforces in a subset of businesses, that its tools will include some game changers and that it will take longer to unfold, at least when it comes to monetization, than its advocates think.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; My justification for &lt;i&gt;why AI disruption will take time&lt;/i&gt; is based on a mix of factors. The first is that my (limited) knowledge and experience with &lt;i&gt;AI products is that while they sometimes work magically well and quickly, they do have kinks&lt;/i&gt;, coming partly from being unable to separate good data from bad, and partly from their imperfect attempt to be imitate humans. The second is &lt;i&gt;history, where no disruption has ever unfolded without delays and drawbacks&lt;/i&gt;; remember that the dot com disruption almost lost its moorings during the market bust in 2001. The third is &lt;i&gt;human nature,&lt;/i&gt; where much as employees and managers claim to want to move on to new and better options, they remain attached to old technology and products; typewriters and mimeographs took a while to disappear after PCs stormed the workplace and flip phones persisted well into the smartphone era.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There are &lt;i&gt;two reasons why I do think that AI disruption is still going to be significant&lt;/i&gt;, in the long term. The first is that some of those making the argument that AI will not displace jobs in the long term are assuming that AI in it more advanced form will look like ChatGPT on steroids or be primarily mechanical in its applications. Even my limited exposure to AI&#39;s advanced tools suggests that they have far greater capabilities, and their capacity to mimic human intuition and thought processes is unsettling. The second is the blanket assumption that workers in most white collar jobs will not be easily replaced because they bring training, brainpower and experience into those jobs that will be difficult to replicate. Many white collar workers are bright people with specialized knowledge, but the businesses that hire them put them in straight jackets, pushing mechanics over intuition and rule-driven thinking over principle-driven assessments. In short, it is the nature of the jobs that we have created in many white collar settings&amp;nbsp; that makes them vulnerable to disruption, not the intelligence or training of the people holding those jobs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It is worth noting that in my probable scenario, AI will unfold at different rates in different businesses, and if I were pushed to distinguish between the businesses that will be targeted most (and soonest) from the businesses where it will take more time, and have less impact, I would look at four factors:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh8lfiK8kZ1zbNJ3hjKf2c7RAvKivL15sJM0eRZvYGeUeyU1JbnoQ_fXJfK_xiNdClJy-YafIqN3Kl9xtG8FVI8RnqABbDi0KryCnoi7DDOzotqej03LgyEVzag_UHxR_NqoJuwGXKqibk0u-PCdqpSNBDNi7CJchDld5wAZaXrboe7dLIjUNHUhueIRg0/s578/Most&amp;amp;leastExposedTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;221&quot; data-original-width=&quot;578&quot; height=&quot;153&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh8lfiK8kZ1zbNJ3hjKf2c7RAvKivL15sJM0eRZvYGeUeyU1JbnoQ_fXJfK_xiNdClJy-YafIqN3Kl9xtG8FVI8RnqABbDi0KryCnoi7DDOzotqej03LgyEVzag_UHxR_NqoJuwGXKqibk0u-PCdqpSNBDNi7CJchDld5wAZaXrboe7dLIjUNHUhueIRg0/w400-h153/Most&amp;amp;leastExposedTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There may be some confirmation and hindsight bias in this table, but there is a good reason why software, a relatively young industry, with young companies and employees, has been one of the first targets for AI disruption. it is profitable, its products and services are logical and rule-based and much of it has no regulatory or system protection. Within software, though, i would expect software that requires more user interface to be more resilient to AI disruption than software that operates in the background. This table, though, can help determine which white collar jobs will be most exposed to AI disruption, and which least, and perhaps also explain why blanket statements about job displacement in banking, consulting and law are overwrought. With banking and law, a substantial portion of the work done is to meet legal or regulatory requirements, not fill operating needs. I have written about the &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2016/09/fairness-opinions-fix-them-or-get-rid.html&quot;&gt;inanity and uselessness of fairness opinions&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;in M&amp;amp;A, where bankers opine on whether an acquiring company is paying a &quot;fair&quot; value for a target, but this practice persists because these fairness opinions provide cover against lawsuits that ensue when deals fall apart. My guess is that the Delaware courts are not quite ready for an AI fairness opinion bot to take the stand and defend a deal, even if the quality of its work is better than a human banker. With consulting, where cookbook solutions are more the norm than the exception, it is worth remembering the clients pay consulting fees not for the advice, but so that they have someone else to blame, when things go wrong, and there too, an AI bot will not have the same outsourcing power as an army of bankers with Harvard MBAs from McKinsey.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;4. Cui Bono?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Most of the AI scenarios yield net benefits, and even in the most damaging scenarios, where the AI disruption benefits are overwhelmed by its costs, at least in the short term, you could argue for net positive benefits in the long term. That is good news, but it should taken with a grain of salt, since the distribution of these net benefits across businesses and society will be unequal, and it is possible that the net benefits accrue to a few businesses (and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;individuals), leaving the rest (businesses and individuals) with net costs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The &lt;i&gt;interests of the AI companies and the rest the economy/market will diverge on AI disruption&lt;/i&gt;, with the former benefiting if the disruption is across many businesses and happens quickly, and the latter benefiting from a slower disruption restricted to a few businesses. This will be the case even if AI tools add to productivity, since the lower costs that companies acquiring these tools will have as a consequence, may not translate into higher profits, especially if their competitors can pay and acquire the same tools.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The last few major disruptions, starting with the internet, moving on the China and then the smartphone, have &lt;i&gt;all tilted the playing field in many businesses towards larger companies&lt;/i&gt;, making businesses more winner-take-all. It is likely that the AI disruption will play out in similar ways, with the winners winning big, and lots of companies losing out.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;At the individual level, it is not just plausible, but also likely, that a strong AI disruption will &lt;i&gt;make wealth and income inequality worse&lt;/i&gt;, with founders of AI businesses joining the ranks of the &amp;nbsp;deca-billionaires and centi-billionaires.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is one final cost that may not be explicit in economic terms, at least immediately, but one that has to enter the discussions, As AI threatens to displace workers in white collar businesses, it is worth remembering that a job is not just an income-generator, but also a source of self esteem and worth. When software engineers, who pride themselves on their coding skills, bankers, who have spent decades becoming excel ninjas, and consultants, who have found inventive ways of packaging cookbook solutions and presenting them as new and inventive, find that AI can do what they have spent a lifetime perfecting almost effortlessly, the psychic damage will be significant. The fact that blue collar workers lost their jobs to the internet and China disruptions faced a similar predicament and were largely ignored also means that there may be more than a hint of schadenfreude in society&#39;s response to white collar job losses.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The AI Personal Threat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you are looking at these side costs and threat to jobs that will come from the AI disruption, and wondering whether we should opt out, by regulating or restricting its reach, I am afraid that the choice is out of our hands. The genie is out of the bottle, and the only pathway that you have, if you operate in a space where AI is ubiquitous, is prepare for a reality where AI tools can automate and do much of what you do on a daily basis, but where you have to create a niche or moat that still makes you necessary.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Just about two years ago, I &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2024/08/beat-your-bot-building-your-moat.html&quot;&gt;wrote about an AI entity called the Damodaran Bot&lt;/a&gt;, that was being developed by Vasant Dhar, my colleague at NYU, and noted that having made all that material that I have developed in my lifetime (classes, books, writing, models, videos) publicly available, I was completely exposed to AI disruption. I have watched that bot develop, with quirks and occasional&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;hiccups, to a point where it can replicate much of what I do almost effortlessly. At the time, though, I did write about what I could do to keep the moat at bay, including the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;following:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Generalist vs Specialists&lt;/u&gt;: I am a dabbler, an&amp;nbsp;expert in nothing and interested in lots of different things, and I do think that gives me an advantage over a bot that is trained to focus on a topic and drill down. The specialist advantages stem from mastering the vast content in a discipline, but those advantages are diluted with AI entities that can also see that content, but the generalist advantage of using multi-disciplinary thinking with be more difficult for AI to replicate.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Left and Right Brain&lt;/u&gt;: I value companies, and early in my valuation life, I decided that financial modeling was not the right path to value businesses, and that good valuations bridge stories and numbers. If the legend of the right and left brains holds, where the left brain controls logic and numbers and the right brain drives your imagination, a bot will have a tougher time replicating what you do, if you use both sides. That said, I have seen the Damodaran Bot get much better at story telling in the two years that I have watched it, and I need to up my game.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Reasoning muscle:&lt;/u&gt; When faced with questions in the days before the internet, you often had no choice but to reason your way to answers. That may have been time consuming, and your answers might even have been wrong, but each time you did this, you strengthened your reasoning muscles. As we move into a period, where the answer to every question is &amp;nbsp;online, on Google Search and ChatGPT, we are losing the need to exercise those reasoning muscles, and exposing ourselves to being outsourced by our bots.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;An idle mind&lt;/u&gt;: I am not a voracious reader nor a listener to podcasts, and since I don&#39;t have much real work to occupy me, I also have plenty of vacant time, with nothing to do. I use that time to daydream and ponder about questions that capture my imagination, including &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2023/08/money-in-sports-trophy-asset-effect.html&quot;&gt;why someone would pay billions of dollars for a sports franchise &lt;/a&gt;(like the Washington Commanders), how to &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2024/02/catastrophic-risk-investing-and.html&quot;&gt;deal with the risk of lava from a volcano hitting a spa&lt;/a&gt; and ruining its valuation and &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2023/09/a-business-upended-streaming-disrupts.html&quot;&gt;how streaming has broken the entertainment business&lt;/a&gt;. None of these posts include deep insights, but my guess is that the Damodaran bot would have trouble keeping up with my wandering mind.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With the admission that is may not be enough, and that my bot may soon be able write my books and posts, teach my classes and analyze/present data better than I can, I think that you should all be acting as if a bot with your name is looking over your shoulder and trying to learn what you do, and think about what you can do to keep that bot at bay.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There is always the possibility that you are arming yourself for a disruption that fizzles, but I will draw on Pascal&#39;s wager to explain why you should prepare for an AI imitator or bot, even if you don&#39;t believe that it is imminent:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgyQt8ZcC9EoQDm6wXek7_qxIBiDIB8BLCXySbWklPUbMAFfx2vFdTZLJrrfpGUuYNxbx3KFILJOKFHhFs-9lxVzUXxW5578UDpI3GHOU_LfMF25XWhmdtRJHVCM27m2X5laOiqrzihKFWtoAA2OQzH34OapovWis4qfRuZavJtkssnYy5Op255EgQBtAU/s1630/PascalWagerAI.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;666&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1630&quot; height=&quot;164&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgyQt8ZcC9EoQDm6wXek7_qxIBiDIB8BLCXySbWklPUbMAFfx2vFdTZLJrrfpGUuYNxbx3KFILJOKFHhFs-9lxVzUXxW5578UDpI3GHOU_LfMF25XWhmdtRJHVCM27m2X5laOiqrzihKFWtoAA2OQzH34OapovWis4qfRuZavJtkssnYy5Op255EgQBtAU/w400-h164/PascalWagerAI.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;Pascal, a French mathematician, used the wager to explain why be believed in God, even if he was&amp;nbsp; doubtful of a heavenly presence, because the expected value from believing in God exceeded the expected cost from not believing. In the context of AI, acting as if an AI presence and competitor is present will make you better at whatever you do, as a teacher, banker, consultant or software engineer, and that will persist, no matter what AI&#39;s impact is ultimately. Good luck!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&amp;nbsp; In the data update posts this year, I have wended my way from the macro (equities collectives, the bond market and other asset classes) to the micro, starting with hurdle rates and returns in posts &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;five&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;six&lt;/a&gt; and the debt/equity choice in my &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;seventh post.&lt;/a&gt; In this post, I will look at the decision by businesses on how much cash to return to their owners, and in what form (dividends or buybacks), and how that decision played out globally in 2025. I will argue that dividend policy, more than any other aspect of corporate finance, is dysfunctional both for the firms that choose to return the cash and the investors who receive that cash. It is also telling that there are many who seem to view the very act of returning cash as a sign of failure on the part of firms that do so, even though it is the end game for every successful business.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Dividend Decision&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;I start my &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/webcastcfonline.htm&quot;&gt;corporate finance classes &lt;/a&gt;with a description of three core decisions that every firm has to make in the course of business, starting with the &lt;u&gt;investment decision,&lt;/u&gt; where you try to invest in projects and investments that earn more than your hurdle rate, moving on to the &lt;u&gt;financing decision&lt;/u&gt;, where you decide on the mix of debt and equity to use in funding those investments, and ending with the &lt;u&gt;dividend decision&lt;/u&gt;, where firms decide how much cash to return to their owners. In the case of privately owned businesses, this cash can be withdrawn by the owners from the business, but in publicly listed companies, it takes the form of dividends or buybacks. In keeping with the notion that these are the cashflows to equity investors, and that those cash flows should represent what is left after (residual) after all other needs have been met, dividends should reflect that status and, at least in principle, be set after investing and financing decisions have been made:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbTeD36b4McG3PUsctZBssThJIIZoBMSzqDdaRNO5uQPQUQDQJNrMqsAetkJjSkQN_1ZqDlovDSIvE3Z7RHWXFsZRMMtDxXQKnT49Sck6VV6hYXdSUCxW2sN-9GXOQjJhNBZq8HAKc2-2f3QFrtgH0uhEVgu9yK219QkeigMBXwRcP7MqthHfHzOdRPUM/s1274/DividendsResidual.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;536&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1274&quot; height=&quot;169&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbTeD36b4McG3PUsctZBssThJIIZoBMSzqDdaRNO5uQPQUQDQJNrMqsAetkJjSkQN_1ZqDlovDSIvE3Z7RHWXFsZRMMtDxXQKnT49Sck6VV6hYXdSUCxW2sN-9GXOQjJhNBZq8HAKc2-2f3QFrtgH0uhEVgu9yK219QkeigMBXwRcP7MqthHfHzOdRPUM/w400-h169/DividendsResidual.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;That utopian view of residual cash being returned to shareholders is put to the test by two real-world realities that often govern corporate dividend policy:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Inertia&lt;/u&gt;: In many companies, dividend policy is set on auto pilot, with dividends this year set equal to dividends in the last year. It is for that reason that the word I would use to describe dividend policy, at least when it comes to conventional dividends, is &#39;sticky&#39;, and you can can see that stickiness at play at US companies, if you track the percentage of companies that increase dividends, decrease dividends or leave them unchanged every year.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_zJt07L3I4APJczvWCNO3WgxTcFb_OLw1sisfEUAcwbEtg9yWotYPyuSj216TwWwYAsYtpkMmhxSekGwcpYjhoKT7XNiCZ7mGfnwDvoseBL6Wm9zRbT9iZ6FTZpKdolSEzMDCgmBLWkjIsxy-RPymQFvZ7cPF2SipvNA9Kk-mpyqPQ0e7HUXUMEl9fws/s1378/Dividendsaresticky.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;786&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1378&quot; height=&quot;229&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_zJt07L3I4APJczvWCNO3WgxTcFb_OLw1sisfEUAcwbEtg9yWotYPyuSj216TwWwYAsYtpkMmhxSekGwcpYjhoKT7XNiCZ7mGfnwDvoseBL6Wm9zRbT9iZ6FTZpKdolSEzMDCgmBLWkjIsxy-RPymQFvZ7cPF2SipvNA9Kk-mpyqPQ0e7HUXUMEl9fws/w400-h229/Dividendsaresticky.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In every single year, from 1988 to 2025, the percentage of companies that pay the same dividends that they did in the previous year outnumbers companies that change dividends, and when dividends are changed, they are more likely to be increased than decreased.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Me-tooism&lt;/u&gt;: In most companies, managers look to peer group dividend policy for guidance on how much, if any, to pay in dividends. Thus, if you are a bank or a utility, it is likely that you will pay high dividends, because everyone else in the sector does so, whereas technology companies will pay no or low dividends, because that is industry practice. While there are good reasons why some industry groups pay more dividends than others, including more predictable earnings and lower growth (and investment needs), hewing to the peer group implies that there will be outliers in each group (fast-growing banks or a mature technology companies) that will be trapped into dividend policies that don&#39;t suit them.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;When maintaining or increasing dividends become the end game for a business, you unleash dividend monsters, where investing and financing decisions are skewed to meet dividend needs. Thus, a firm may turn away good investments or borrow much more than it should because it feels the need to sustain dividends.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpyt-6K56LeNsqqQYb1RBBJGq2D1FhHACK7OszMZtJTpQYZ_bBx02cmn9cqHTeyBI3gumcy6aX9KNmOq_6H8Gtty4Y39NpDpRlUHoVeecWkVAcLBD_3Yfh05svB9Wx_FnouBbWDqpAhwc6yO02pUie02cPTtbePmCnn_Ih96-coEd2o4_NAF0k7b5FJns/s1440/DividendMonster.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;654&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1440&quot; height=&quot;181&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpyt-6K56LeNsqqQYb1RBBJGq2D1FhHACK7OszMZtJTpQYZ_bBx02cmn9cqHTeyBI3gumcy6aX9KNmOq_6H8Gtty4Y39NpDpRlUHoVeecWkVAcLBD_3Yfh05svB9Wx_FnouBbWDqpAhwc6yO02pUie02cPTtbePmCnn_Ih96-coEd2o4_NAF0k7b5FJns/w400-h181/DividendMonster.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I have long argued that dividends, in their sticky form, are unsuitable as cash returns to shareholders, but for much of the last century, they remained the primary or often only way to return cash to shareholders. While buying back stock has always been an option available to US companies, its use as a systematic way of returning cash picked up in the 1980s, and in the years since, &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=stock+buybacks&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=711051163212437412&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;stock buybacks&lt;/a&gt; have become the dominant approach to returning cash for US companies:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2boU8ihDURKkF43MhEL1ynu6rJ6ggSF45E9f4KGSLsnjL8h0Blh7CJG0LER9R8nj7LGBVI9AsBc07ToOI-9lo1Cy3cjs2SMrF1Bgn4UamU4smP6CoNnQX_XGY4nJ1v8q2lgZfMkUUIFYUkR0l8tAh8aTvUW178-VpfD__R2D03a9Zsdh9MQm492y3FIY/s1412/BuybackssupplantingdividendsNew.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;812&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1412&quot; height=&quot;230&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2boU8ihDURKkF43MhEL1ynu6rJ6ggSF45E9f4KGSLsnjL8h0Blh7CJG0LER9R8nj7LGBVI9AsBc07ToOI-9lo1Cy3cjs2SMrF1Bgn4UamU4smP6CoNnQX_XGY4nJ1v8q2lgZfMkUUIFYUkR0l8tAh8aTvUW178-VpfD__R2D03a9Zsdh9MQm492y3FIY/w400-h230/BuybackssupplantingdividendsNew.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, in the last decade, more than 60% of cash returned to shareholders took the form of buybacks. The primary reason, in my view, is that &lt;i&gt;buybacks, unlike dividends, are flexible&lt;/i&gt;, with companies often reversing buybacks, if macro circumstances change, as was the case in 2008 and 2020. There are other reasons that have been offered for the explosive growth in buybacks, but none of them are as significant. There are some who have argued it is &lt;i&gt;stock-based compensation &lt;/i&gt;for managers that is pushing them away from dividends to stock buybacks, but that rationale makes more sense for stock options, where stock prices mater, than for restricted stock. In fact, even as more companies shift to restricted stock as their stock compensation mechanism, buybacks have continued to climb, and they are just as high at companies that have no or very low stock based compensation as at companies with high stock-based compensation. &lt;i&gt;Investor taxes &lt;/i&gt;are alway in the mix, since investors are often taxed at different rates on dividends and capital gains, but changes in tax law in the last two decades have reduced, if not eliminated, the tax disadvantages associated with dividends, cutting against this argument.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I know that there are many investors, especially in the value investing camp, and quite a few economists, who believe that the shift away from dividends to buybacks is unhealthy, albeit for different reasons. I will return to many of the myths that revolve around buybacks later in this post.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Rational Cash Return Policy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;If you were designing a sensible cash return policy, it has to start with an assessment of how much cash there is available for a firm to return. Since that &quot;potential dividend&quot; should be the cash left over after taxes are paid, reinvestment has been made and debt repaid, it can be computed fairly simply from the statement of cash flows, as &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=what+is+free+cashflow+to+equity&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=711051163212437412&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;free cashflow to equity&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgw7YRaCy__RW71M61H1UITPaO6fQk_OAtMC6BUTSNi6V-D3jGVJrZv8Dsj9aYslFUKqngPe20G5LRAIzhTaT27VmFNIMONeJBfcovi_p5d-LQFjK-fc1QIQvl9SoP3R1emDrkGFnZ5BLheK-t2IOAsCB4agfeb1kH4gBK5rq0J-q3lXt3a59-LFSzc82c/s1206/FCFEPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;736&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1206&quot; height=&quot;244&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgw7YRaCy__RW71M61H1UITPaO6fQk_OAtMC6BUTSNi6V-D3jGVJrZv8Dsj9aYslFUKqngPe20G5LRAIzhTaT27VmFNIMONeJBfcovi_p5d-LQFjK-fc1QIQvl9SoP3R1emDrkGFnZ5BLheK-t2IOAsCB4agfeb1kH4gBK5rq0J-q3lXt3a59-LFSzc82c/w400-h244/FCFEPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that free cash flow to equity starts with equity earnings, converts those earnings to cash flows by adding back depreciation and other non-cash charges, and then netting out capital expenditures and changes in working capital, with increases (decreases) in working capital reducing (increasing) cash flows. It is completed by incorporating the cash flows from debt, with debt issuances representing cash inflows to equity investors and debt repayments becoming cash outflows. Can free cash flows to equity be negative? Absolutely, and it can happen either because you are a money-losing company, too deep in the hole to dig yourself out, or even a money-making companies, with large reinvestment needs? Obviously, paying out dividends or buying back stock when your free cash flows to equity is violating the simple rule that if you are in a hole, you need to stop digging.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If your free cash flow to equity is positive, you can choose to return it to shareholders, either in the form of dividends or buybacks, but you are not obligated to do so. In fact, if you have positive free cashflows to equity and you choose to return none or only a portion of that cash flow, the difference accumulates into a cash balance. If you choose to return more than your free cashflow to equity, you will either have to deplete an existing cash balance, or if you run out of cash, go out and raise fresh capital.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWAVnXITRzL8b3fGIXkaV83b2up8HNrcwuZtVkMIxA7rDtEW-D7v6moiYAuZ4BkY1i9Nwh-j-ebN9VRZFSOpICLefSdPn_7l33v_FiCvceH3ATjUCV4KDNql3FHfSbZFufjxI5ij3v-uIFegNbwQHBi1yXF8kf6INJzl3QhR8q1aImOhsNT4FKz7Oi6lk/s1450/DividendsandCashBalances.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;666&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1450&quot; height=&quot;184&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWAVnXITRzL8b3fGIXkaV83b2up8HNrcwuZtVkMIxA7rDtEW-D7v6moiYAuZ4BkY1i9Nwh-j-ebN9VRZFSOpICLefSdPn_7l33v_FiCvceH3ATjUCV4KDNql3FHfSbZFufjxI5ij3v-uIFegNbwQHBi1yXF8kf6INJzl3QhR8q1aImOhsNT4FKz7Oi6lk/w400-h184/DividendsandCashBalances.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;A company that systematically holds back on cash that it could have returned will, over time, accumulate a large cash balance, but that, by itself, may not trigger a shareholder response, if shareholders trust the company&#39;s managers with their cash. After all, cash invested in liquid and riskless investments, like treasury bills and commercial paper, is a neutral (zero NPV) investment, and leaves shareholders unaffected. If you don&#39;t trust management to be disciplined, though, you may punish a company for holding too much cash, effectively apply a &quot;lack-of-trust&quot; discount to the cash. The picture below provides a framework for thinking through the cash return decision, and how it will play out in markets.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtQnVyTXbIoWJqJg41xBEofRu9Naqc5jke0Ms_t7itEDTswILGphvc0c_ciCcStSNs44G2smUQc_-G270yPdbI0-u9O5wc_5hyCltqxrQBmgtaWvENfqNvyVAUi1RnmnRRSS1E17XU1t7KCp48zZY4uAhH8ud_U1BEceoo_msmdfjWBDPDbPWCQ_Lgz_0/s1042/DividendFramework.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;778&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1042&quot; height=&quot;299&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtQnVyTXbIoWJqJg41xBEofRu9Naqc5jke0Ms_t7itEDTswILGphvc0c_ciCcStSNs44G2smUQc_-G270yPdbI0-u9O5wc_5hyCltqxrQBmgtaWvENfqNvyVAUi1RnmnRRSS1E17XU1t7KCp48zZY4uAhH8ud_U1BEceoo_msmdfjWBDPDbPWCQ_Lgz_0/w400-h299/DividendFramework.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you look at the interplay between earnings, investment needs and potential dividends, you can already see why you should expect cash return policies to change over a company&#39;s life cycle:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhw7mAIKabKZHymBIGDPHrlBfrH4wqux8O-IgdITuacB8SNi6XIKQvENpFwj2V03St9CrMcrYsz_vpsKA1EcjVv_vtCsdD8AbFc_hrnSsaTaF-qfDn3fuJXjMnIHmK6hOpOFGcGErbj4GzUGyUTCiVmk0zZvxEC5uTCi3QyUcXKZTOv0aBmoYP5r8wXDZI/s1656/DividendsLifeCycle.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1290&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1656&quot; height=&quot;311&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhw7mAIKabKZHymBIGDPHrlBfrH4wqux8O-IgdITuacB8SNi6XIKQvENpFwj2V03St9CrMcrYsz_vpsKA1EcjVv_vtCsdD8AbFc_hrnSsaTaF-qfDn3fuJXjMnIHmK6hOpOFGcGErbj4GzUGyUTCiVmk0zZvxEC5uTCi3QyUcXKZTOv0aBmoYP5r8wXDZI/w400-h311/DividendsLifeCycle.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The cash returns you see in this graph should largely map on to common sense, with start-ups and very young companies, often money-losing and requiring substantial reinvestment to grow, having negative free cash flow to equity (thus requiring equity infusions). Young growth companies&amp;nbsp; are usually self-funding because internal cash flows may rise to cover reinvestment, but these cash flows are not enough to pay dividends. Mature growth companies have enough cash to return, but stick with buybacks, because they value flexibility. Mature stable companies represent the sweet spot for dividend paying, since they have little in reinvestment needs and large predictable earnings and cash flows. As with everything else in the aging process, companies that refuse to act their age, i.e., young companies that choose to pay dividends or buy back stock or mature companies that insist on holding on to cash, damage themselves and their shareholders.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dividends in 2025&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I will start the assessment of how much companies returned to shareholders in 2025 by looking at conventional dividends paid by companies, using two metrics. The first metric is the &lt;b&gt;&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+dividend+payout+ratio+formula&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=711051163212437412&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;dividend payout ratio&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/b&gt; where I divide dividends paid by net income, but only if net income is positive; if net income is negative, and dividends get paid, the payout ratio is not meaningful:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhf0B92NCSJxzeA2aQpkAfAA10AtZR7koY9Qf77XPXvVc98gMIAFAaX2G0IwuF3uIVuL6TWtkvSkqkQ1MW4J6phbnK6Hu4LHunoYnqp-S4DA0KhYma0qx_maNixSB6LEj72sI4rTNWdT5U6i5jo7aMdLt52FMPUgWjnXzxqHKXLMZKaoF8Q9Mc7RojDub0/s1486/DivPayoutChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;796&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1486&quot; height=&quot;214&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhf0B92NCSJxzeA2aQpkAfAA10AtZR7koY9Qf77XPXvVc98gMIAFAaX2G0IwuF3uIVuL6TWtkvSkqkQ1MW4J6phbnK6Hu4LHunoYnqp-S4DA0KhYma0qx_maNixSB6LEj72sI4rTNWdT5U6i5jo7aMdLt52FMPUgWjnXzxqHKXLMZKaoF8Q9Mc7RojDub0/w400-h214/DivPayoutChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see the median payout ratio is about 35% (59%) for US (global) companies, but in both samples, most companies do not pay dividends. There is a sizable subset of companies (12% of US and 14% of global companies) that pay out more than 100% of earnings as dividends, with multiple reasons for that oversized number including a bad earnings year, a desire to increase financial leverage and partial liquidation plans all coming into play.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The second metric is the &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+dividend+yield+how+to+calculate&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=711051163212437412&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;dividend yield&lt;/a&gt;, computed by dividing dividends paid by market capitalization, or dividends per share by the market price per share. In the graph below, I look at the distribution of dividend yields across companies in the graph below, in 2025:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-fRElybciHELT-LrtabPlRtsYJoGNGke7mAhuUQwCTpYC9KP8nk3DOLafvACUAenzCIGErINMjsqt4ZtqIXh0dpnV3Rzyi79si1dAoxuDslprpzOh9MZlzF2ZlAq_vWwjIXFQXOVuTir7M3W9WbexRV99qNunGfd7oV1lBRK4UNwfXshyphenhyphenE74_Y_gDNA8/s1430/DivyldChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;784&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1430&quot; height=&quot;219&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-fRElybciHELT-LrtabPlRtsYJoGNGke7mAhuUQwCTpYC9KP8nk3DOLafvACUAenzCIGErINMjsqt4ZtqIXh0dpnV3Rzyi79si1dAoxuDslprpzOh9MZlzF2ZlAq_vWwjIXFQXOVuTir7M3W9WbexRV99qNunGfd7oV1lBRK4UNwfXshyphenhyphenE74_Y_gDNA8/w400-h219/DivyldChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Again looking at only dividend paying firms in the US and global samples, the median dividend yield was 1.10% for the former and 2.43% for the latter, with major divergences across sub-regions; note that the percent of dividend paying firms&amp;nbsp; in the United States has dropped below 30% and even globally, less than half of firms pay dividends. The dividend yield ties into the c&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;ost of equity discussion that I initiated in my fifth data update&lt;/a&gt;, where I described the cost of equity as the rate of return that investors expect to make on their equity investments. In the United States, for instance, that expected return was about 8.50% at the start of 2026, which would indicate that if you are an equity investor, it is price appreciation that you are dependent on, for the bulk of your equity return.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The dividend yield for equities has declined over time, with the drop off being most noticeable in the United States. The graph below looks at the dividend yield on the S&amp;amp;P 500 from 1960 to 2025, and how that number has become a smaller and smaller portion of the overall expected return on stocks (which I compute with the implied equity return approach):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiAmXmuNnOHCQvQ-vaQUXNPhf1hxzkwbORP0WF-wef7VQaz2jpGGT0Q-B-6s-kvcvHecPhMyySGVC8FWjYoZcHz-oKBcZcblN8Jll2dfR6T1qsChGmD_eiYaKSU1tvjVOLq9mnrecsQCOqzUtXeUCc1FTz_EJDhq_7S5SQoq8pzWekt64vpP6E9N7McoDU/s1842/DividendReturnHistory.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1344&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1842&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiAmXmuNnOHCQvQ-vaQUXNPhf1hxzkwbORP0WF-wef7VQaz2jpGGT0Q-B-6s-kvcvHecPhMyySGVC8FWjYoZcHz-oKBcZcblN8Jll2dfR6T1qsChGmD_eiYaKSU1tvjVOLq9mnrecsQCOqzUtXeUCc1FTz_EJDhq_7S5SQoq8pzWekt64vpP6E9N7McoDU/w400-h291/DividendReturnHistory.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 1960, about half of your expected return on stocks came from dividends and that statistic has trended downwards for the last few decades, and in 2025, it represented less than 15% of the total return on stocks.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As a final part of this analysis, I looked at dividend yields and payout ratios, broken down by sector, for both US and global companies:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjGxuFIykiaJj8smBKvBLc5ZzkMVlVnu1Xb3JsckDitJkPvkv_6mUrdj0aBgKHstis_DGPizTHNnyGW1VI4vM_BRaEk2owcwwdXj1lVnJOlXlbcvYj9I0pX1sq77zmNTyy_1n7NwyLyheoNkzMGmUrd-2VuyXRnZvQWd2kz9e1IKx1BXGbhi2D5yjgbC48/s2474/SectorDividendsTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1134&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2474&quot; height=&quot;184&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjGxuFIykiaJj8smBKvBLc5ZzkMVlVnu1Xb3JsckDitJkPvkv_6mUrdj0aBgKHstis_DGPizTHNnyGW1VI4vM_BRaEk2owcwwdXj1lVnJOlXlbcvYj9I0pX1sq77zmNTyy_1n7NwyLyheoNkzMGmUrd-2VuyXRnZvQWd2kz9e1IKx1BXGbhi2D5yjgbC48/w400-h184/SectorDividendsTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;As you can see, the sectors with the highest percentage of firms paying dividends are financials, real estate and utilities, for both US and global companies, and consumer product companies join in that group, for global companies. In terms of payout ratios, the same three sectors dominate, with energy and real estate returning more than 200% of net income as dividends, in 2025, and posting dividend yields in excess of 6%. Technology companies and communication services have the lowest percent of dividend paying companies and the lowest dividend yields and payout ratios.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The drop in dividend yields over time for the market, the decline in dividend paying firms and the concentration of dividend paying firms in some sectors has put old time value investing to the test. &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Ben+Graham%27s+strategy&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=711051163212437412&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Ben Graham&#39;s strategy&lt;/a&gt; of principal protection was built around buying large dividend paying firms and holding on for the long term and it has hit a wall. Any investing strategy built around dividends will result in a portfolio composed of mature and declining firms, and even if you accept that reality, those firms are increasingly concentrated in real estate, banking and utilities.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Buybacks - Myths and Realities&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;As buybacks have soared in the United States, misconceptions and myths about buybacks have also surged, with some myths used to back up the argument that buybacks are unhealthy and should therefore be banned and others presented as the basis for buybacks as good, representing cannot-lose strategies to beat&amp;nbsp; the market. I will start with the myths that are used to argue against buybacks first, before moving on to those that are used to justify it:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. Myths in favor of the argument that buybacks are bad and should be restricted or stopped&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Myth 1.1: Buybacks are a US phenomenon&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Reality 1.1: Buybacks are becoming a global phenomenon&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; When US firms first started buying back stock in the 1980s, it is true that is was almost entirely or primarily a phenomenon restricted to the US, with large parts of the world restricting or banning the use of buybacks to prevent price manipulation by companies. That is no longer the case, and companies around the world have taken to buybacks, as a flexible alternative to dividends, have adopted the practice. In 2025, I looked at dividends and buybacks from companies around the world:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4hK3WdYQ_E89SiXSzaNzLhLFLrPMGyg287VGke4A2mchMM1r4gEmGKgT2CQWGc8SI_jz0U1sWF4jNjc0I48_L5VFzX_X2jj4FCiVjD9KtCwnCwOrWN4Qae7-bXSOOK5KcZvJDamBz_NZmHbN8oQWHqXpVgRWDEV1u05kz-__16UDw5phWhs4lviUyiQs/s1434/Buybacksin2025Global.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;466&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1434&quot; height=&quot;130&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4hK3WdYQ_E89SiXSzaNzLhLFLrPMGyg287VGke4A2mchMM1r4gEmGKgT2CQWGc8SI_jz0U1sWF4jNjc0I48_L5VFzX_X2jj4FCiVjD9KtCwnCwOrWN4Qae7-bXSOOK5KcZvJDamBz_NZmHbN8oQWHqXpVgRWDEV1u05kz-__16UDw5phWhs4lviUyiQs/w400-h130/Buybacksin2025Global.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Companies in the United States are still in the lead in the buyback race, buying back $1.153 trillion in stock in 2025, close to 60% of overall cash returned. Canada, the UK, and Japan are not far behind with more than 35% of cash returned taking the form of buybacks, and the EU and environs, often the slowest to adapt to change, saw almost 29% of cash returned in buybacks. For a variety of reasons, including poor &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=corporate+governance&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=711051163212437412&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;corporate governance&lt;/a&gt; and regulatory restrictions, Africa &amp;amp; the Middle East, Eastern Europe and much of south and southeast Asia return relatively little in buybacks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Myth 1.2: Buybacks are wasteful and reduce corporate investment&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Reality 1.2: Buybacks redirect corporate investment from mature companies to growth businesses&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The argument that buybacks are wasteful often come from using a firm as a self-contained economic unit, and noting that money used on buybacks cannot be reinvested back into the firm. That is absolutely true, but the cash that goes into buybacks goes to investors and mostly goes back into the market, as investments in other companies. While there are clearly exceptions, where companies that should be investing back into their businesses use that cash to buyback stock, the companies that are the biggest buyers of their own stock are mature firms with insufficient investment opportunities and the companies that have the cash redirected into them need that cash to fund their growth. You can see this play out, when you look at stock buybacks broken down, by age decile (based upon corporate age) for US and global companies:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxgDNSAvA8PKfEiFNBHffQ0K10FylZaKJlKIOkG6chXNxD_gC2ydEWe4cde6d5ZNTCPy0WNiaeqRdT5cxSTHBlb1zT5eNF6U8MqdR3Z2b3kmVC2tP16ZbikyAMM1jaxVoDRJAj0rRZ1MTGBfwFnnzJphXgm2asrD2d5B8NmZPUw_bfRE_BfcKfOqQMACg/s2508/AgeCashTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1058&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2508&quot; height=&quot;169&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxgDNSAvA8PKfEiFNBHffQ0K10FylZaKJlKIOkG6chXNxD_gC2ydEWe4cde6d5ZNTCPy0WNiaeqRdT5cxSTHBlb1zT5eNF6U8MqdR3Z2b3kmVC2tP16ZbikyAMM1jaxVoDRJAj0rRZ1MTGBfwFnnzJphXgm2asrD2d5B8NmZPUw_bfRE_BfcKfOqQMACg/w400-h169/AgeCashTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, younger companies are not only less likely to buy back stock, but also return less cash in dividends and buybacks, at least as a percent of market capitalization than older companies. Using the life cycle perspective, this suggests that cash is rotating out of older, more mature businesses into younger businesses. I would argue that the difference between geographies where buybacks are rare and geographies where buybacks are common is not in how much corporate investment there is, but in where that investment is directed, with the former investing investing back into declining businesses and the latter funding higher growth and newer businesses.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Myth 1.3: Buybacks are funded with debt are are making companies too highly levered&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Reality 1.3: Buybacks are primarily funded with free cash flows to equity and even as buybacks have surged, debt ratios have decreased.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;I am not a great believer in case studies precisely because anecdotal evidence is spun into backing priors and preconception.s There are, of course, firms that have dug themselves into a hole by buying back immense amounts of stock, and funding those buybacks with debt, but the aggregate debt ratios for US non-financial service firms, with debt to capital ratios measured against both book and market, have declined over the last four decades, even as buybacks have surged.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMlJ61XXdlj5QqJxG8gSRKZjw5C3zRjFaX7sr-8vL8AOXvtHEYzjNSlP6bQMM3NqFBuDM0ZiJKzYz3KqpTNSvU54vzF9LbEtzkN5w-gc8wXAvhcNsniStZ5PEzjJWrCxH_Iqv1y_ihrIFKCQ71LIbOJGYEkT5Ed1uAhT3BZ4EXh8NC4k8ub2K_WiVf7TE/s1616/Debt%20and%20Buybacks%20Chart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1174&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1616&quot; height=&quot;290&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMlJ61XXdlj5QqJxG8gSRKZjw5C3zRjFaX7sr-8vL8AOXvtHEYzjNSlP6bQMM3NqFBuDM0ZiJKzYz3KqpTNSvU54vzF9LbEtzkN5w-gc8wXAvhcNsniStZ5PEzjJWrCxH_Iqv1y_ihrIFKCQ71LIbOJGYEkT5Ed1uAhT3BZ4EXh8NC4k8ub2K_WiVf7TE/w400-h290/Debt%20and%20Buybacks%20Chart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If your response is that not all companies buy back stock, and that debt ratios has risen at companies that buy back stock, a comparison of debt ratios (debt to EBITDA and debt to capital) for US firms that bought back stock in 2025 versus those that do not dispels that argument:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPxXlaQES1AtVUONPHIrFq17AxMkw5pk1BvMMSdDnNef7fQ-TIadBS3CUKyLlEERyAgK7rqEu_1IhgrhPbEjM_fYS-3_bdOalQFOgS3gUnmVkVRnfDo_liDWnxq6AI5IF_orFhiRQvA-M7PhoP5NN08T9I7wzSojOrHNpFuRTwa-uZFi3na2QXuYp9Qxs/s1132/DebtandBuybackTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;114&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1132&quot; height=&quot;40&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPxXlaQES1AtVUONPHIrFq17AxMkw5pk1BvMMSdDnNef7fQ-TIadBS3CUKyLlEERyAgK7rqEu_1IhgrhPbEjM_fYS-3_bdOalQFOgS3gUnmVkVRnfDo_liDWnxq6AI5IF_orFhiRQvA-M7PhoP5NN08T9I7wzSojOrHNpFuRTwa-uZFi3na2QXuYp9Qxs/w400-h40/DebtandBuybackTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If firms are borrowing money to fund buybacks, it is clearly not showing up in the statistics, since &lt;i&gt;companies that bought back stock had much lower debt loads than the companies that did not,&lt;/i&gt; a simplistic comparison, but one that carries heft.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Myth 1.4: Buybacks are value-destroying because companies tend to buy back their own stock when prices are too high&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Reality 1.4: Buybacks, at any price, can neither add nor destroy value. They can just transfer value&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Warren+Buffett&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=711051163212437412&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Warren Buffett&lt;/a&gt; was late to the buyback party, but when he initiated buybacks at &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Berkshire+Hathaway&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=711051163212437412&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Berkshire Hathaway&lt;/a&gt;, he introduced a constraint, which is that he would do buybacks only if he believed that the company&#39;s stock price was less than intrinsic value. He, of course, had the credibility to make this assertion, but most companies don&#39;t impose this constraint and there is evidence that they often buy back their shares when stock prices are higher than they are lower. That does seem like value destruction, but a cash return can neither add nor destroy value, but it can transfer wealth. In the &lt;i&gt;case of stock buybacks at too high a price, wealth is transferred from those who remain loyal shareholders in the firm to those who sell their shares&lt;/i&gt;. While there is hand wringing about this, you have a choice, as a shareholder, in a buyback, to sell or hold on, and if you believe that the buyback is at too high a price, you should sell your shares back.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;2. Myths in favor of the argument that buybacks are good and generate excess returns for investors&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Myth 2.1: Buybacks are value-adding because companies that buy back their own stock when prices are lower than fair value are taking positive net present value investments.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Reality 2.1: Buybacks, at any price, can neither add nor destroy value. They can just transfer value.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;This is the inverse of the argument that buybacks are value destroying and they are both grounded in a misclassification of buybacks as projects, rather than cash return, competing with investment projects for the company&#39;s dollars. The truth again is that a stock that buys back stock at lower than fair value is transferring wealth from those who sell back to those who remain, and here again, if you are on the wrong side of wealth transfer, it was your choice to sell back that made you the loser.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Myth 2.2:&amp;nbsp; Buybacks are almost always good for stock prices, since there are fewer shares outstanding after buybacks, and that should increase the price per share.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Reality 2.2: A buyback can increase, do nothing or decrease value per share, depending on the price at which it is done and its effects on leverage.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Buybacks reduce share count (the denominator) but the cash that leaves the firm also reduces fir value (the numerator). A fair-value buyback will create offsetting effects, leaving value per share unchanged, though there can be a secondary effect on value, if the buyback, by reducing equity, changes the debt to capital mix and cost of capital for a company:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgS3Lur000K6Y5L1Evb2aUHcPbDSFZLvBFYZbSlq50-NoiPLW0kv0dOWq1jxQ2k7szBIAbJ0scUrl2K3fMGECYZBhQTqmVErCx2Z_Ih0a6ndk4pxzoaNZ66SMs285lUqXmh67nARrbt4iziW9xCS21V_pVrak8hyphenhyphenJBvfjZQRx32gM5793uxkzco6qayHgc/s1076/Buybackvalueeffect.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;790&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1076&quot; height=&quot;235&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgS3Lur000K6Y5L1Evb2aUHcPbDSFZLvBFYZbSlq50-NoiPLW0kv0dOWq1jxQ2k7szBIAbJ0scUrl2K3fMGECYZBhQTqmVErCx2Z_Ih0a6ndk4pxzoaNZ66SMs285lUqXmh67nARrbt4iziW9xCS21V_pVrak8hyphenhyphenJBvfjZQRx32gM5793uxkzco6qayHgc/s320/Buybackvalueeffect.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is true that empirical evidence backs up the notion that stock prices benefit from buybacks, but that may be from the selection bias of under levered firms with large cash balances being the biggest players in the stock buyback game.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In general, almost all of these myths come out of treating buybacks as something new and different, rather than a variant on dividends. In general, companies that should not be paying dividends, either because they lack the cash or the future is uncertain, should not be buying back stock either.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dividend Dysfunction&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; At the start of this post, I noted that dividend policy is dysfunctional at many firms, driven by inertia (we&#39;ve always paid dividends or we&#39;ve never paid dividend before) and the desire to hew to peer group policies. As a result, there are many companies around the world that adopt dividend policies that, at least of the face of it, take explaining including:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Money-losing companies that pay dividends&lt;/u&gt;: While there are some companies that offer justifications grounded in worries about sending bad signals or hopes of a bounce back in earnings, many get stuck with dividend policies, because of inertia or peer group pressure, that can drive them into ruin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Money-making companies that refuse to pay dividends&lt;/u&gt;: Here again, there can be good reasons for holding back including concerns about whether you can sustain earning and expectations that you will need to invest more in the future, but in some cases, it can unwillingness to initiate dividends in an industry where no one else pays dividends.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Negative FCFE companies that return cash (dividends or buybacks):&lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp;In addition to hopes for a bounce back in FCFE, companies may continue to return cash, even with negative FCFE, because they are trying to increase debt ratios or shrink their businesses over time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Positive FCFE companies that return no cash&lt;/u&gt;: Companies that have positive FCFE that don&#39;t return cash may hold back that cash because of the desire to reduce debt ratios or because they ahve investment plans.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The graph below lists out the number of companies in each group, broken down by geography:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiUdPe8b2dhiSuFyyRX7lPNMhYo0ss0eEncrRBBhOtOGyuXoVmYlyJ7N_T1K6rknU63z2J3FRui4KImjDqz7Wnz1Y7nDAnd93hkoMN9jWBtmpEQlpuYMxUPU7ZmfE0AaGh5uhibdFVEyC6ld0NTz3kQqg1DDFdnjrJ1Y9JjUAvg6yoJoiPkYV1hPOyxcoA/s1072/DividendDysfunction.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;808&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1072&quot; height=&quot;301&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiUdPe8b2dhiSuFyyRX7lPNMhYo0ss0eEncrRBBhOtOGyuXoVmYlyJ7N_T1K6rknU63z2J3FRui4KImjDqz7Wnz1Y7nDAnd93hkoMN9jWBtmpEQlpuYMxUPU7ZmfE0AaGh5uhibdFVEyC6ld0NTz3kQqg1DDFdnjrJ1Y9JjUAvg6yoJoiPkYV1hPOyxcoA/w400-h301/DividendDysfunction.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Across the globe in 2025, almost 18% of money-losing companies paid dividends, as did about 70% of money-making companies. With FCFE as your indicator, about 37% of companies that returned cash (in dividends and buybacks) in 2025, had negative FCFE, as did 66% of companies with positive FCFE.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There are a whole host of misalignments between what companies return to their shareholders, either as dividends or in buybacks, and what they can, as potential dividends. That suggests to me, and perhaps I am wrong, that investment strategies that are built around cash return, whether they be dividends or buybacks, are likely to go off the tracks. Furthermore, any strategy that is built entirely around dividends, as is the case with strategies where you load up on high dividend yield stocks or buy a handful of heavy dividend payers, such as the Dogs&amp;nbsp;of the Dow, misses the essence of equity investing. A stock is not a bond, where dividends replace coupons, and you get some price appreciation on top, and treating it as such will only create disappointment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/SRpJEkzJpKs?si=Zpmn34O1EX_4Nuih&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p&gt;=&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dividend statistics, by industry (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/DividendsIndustryUS.xlsx&quot;&gt;US&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/DividendsIndustryGlobal.xlsx&quot;&gt;Global)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Buyback statistics, by industry (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/BuybacksIndustryUS.xlsx&quot;&gt;US &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/BuybacksIndustryGlobal.xlsx&quot;&gt;Global&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/Div&amp;amp;Buybacks2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Dividends and Buybacks - History for US firms&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/buybackcalculator.xlsx&quot;&gt;Buyback stock price calculator&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Update Posts for 2026&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested and pass again!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 8 for 2026: Dividends and Buybacks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/711051163212437412/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/711051163212437412' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/711051163212437412'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/711051163212437412'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html' title='Data Update 8 for 2026: Time for Harvesting - Dividends and Buybacks'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbTeD36b4McG3PUsctZBssThJIIZoBMSzqDdaRNO5uQPQUQDQJNrMqsAetkJjSkQN_1ZqDlovDSIvE3Z7RHWXFsZRMMtDxXQKnT49Sck6VV6hYXdSUCxW2sN-9GXOQjJhNBZq8HAKc2-2f3QFrtgH0uhEVgu9yK219QkeigMBXwRcP7MqthHfHzOdRPUM/s72-w400-h169-c/DividendsResidual.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1015588734760127227</id><published>2026-02-20T11:48:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2026-03-03T16:51:09.652-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Data Updates"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Debt"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Distress"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Taxes"/><title type='text'>Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;In my &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;fifth data update&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;I examined &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+hurdle+rates&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;hurdle rates&lt;/a&gt; in 2025, and in my&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;sixth data update&lt;/a&gt;, I&amp;nbsp;looked at the profitability and return metrics for firms. Both hurdle rates and profitability metricsmcan be affected by how much debt companies choose to have in their financing structure, and it enters explicitly into my &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=cost+of+capital+calculations+explained&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;cost of capital calculations&lt;/a&gt;, both through the costs of equity/debt and the mix of the two, and into my accounting return calculations, for net margin and return on equity. In this session, I start with an examination of the trade off that all businesses face when it comes to choosing between debt and equity to fund their operations, and then look the debt choices that companies made in 2025. As with every other one of my data updates this year, AI enters this conversation not only because of the huge investments that are being made into &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=AI+architecture&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;AI architecture&lt;/a&gt;, but also because a non-trivial portion of this investment is coming from debt, with private credit as a key contributor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Debt versus Equity: Choices and Tradeoff&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;The discussion of the tradeoffs that businesses face on whether to borrow money (debt) or use owner&#39;s funds (equity) has to start with a clear distinction between what it is that sets them apart. While that distinction may seem trivial, since accountants do break financing down into debt and equity on accounting balance sheets, accountants are not always consistent in their categorization, and I think that understanding what sets debt apart from equity can help catch these inconsistencies. There are three dimensions where debt and equity deviate:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Nature of claim&lt;/u&gt;: Debt gives its holders a &lt;u&gt;contractual claim on the cash flows&lt;/u&gt;, insofar as the terms of interest and principal payments are laid down contractually at the time of the borrowing. Note that these contractual claims cover both fixed rate debt, where the interest payments are fixed over the lifetime of the debt, and floating rate debt, where the interest payments will change over time, but in ways that are specified by the bond/loan agreements. Equity gives its holders a &lt;u&gt;residual claim,&lt;/u&gt; i.e,, a claim on cash flows, if any, that are left over after other claim holders have been paid.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Priority of claim&lt;/u&gt;: This follows from the first distinction, but &lt;u&gt;debt holders get first claim on the cashflows,&lt;/u&gt; when the firm is in operation, and on liquidation proceeds, if the firm ever goes bankrupt. It is this priority of claims that should generally make debt safer than equity in almost every enterprise that employs both.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Legal consequences&lt;/u&gt;: A company that fails to pay dividends to its equity investors, no matter how deeply set their expectations of receiving these dividends, may see its stock price drop, but it cannot be held legally accountable for the failure. A company that fails to make its contractual obligations on debt can not only be sued, but &lt;u&gt;can be pushed into bankruptcy&lt;/u&gt;, effectively ending its business life.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There are three other distinctions, which do not always hold, but are usually true:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Tax Treatment&lt;/u&gt;: In much of the world, the &lt;u&gt;tax code is tilted in favor of debt&lt;/u&gt;, with interest payments being tax deductible and cash flows to equity (dividends or buybacks) coming out of after-tax cash flows, but there are three caveats. The first is that the tax savings from debt kick in &lt;i&gt;only when a company is generating a taxable profit&lt;/i&gt;&lt;u&gt;,&lt;/u&gt; though laws on tax loss carry-forwards can allow even money-losing firms to get tax benefits, albeit with a delay. The second is that there are &lt;i&gt;parts of the world, such as the Middle East, where the tax code explicitly bars interest tax deductions&lt;/i&gt;, though companies find work arounds sometimes to get the benefits. The third is that there are a &lt;i&gt;few countries that try to even the playing field&lt;/i&gt; by either giving a tax deduction to companies for some payments to equity investors (i&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.garrigues.com/sites/default/files/docs/Brazilian_1.pdf&quot;&gt;nterest on capital as a tax deduction in Brazil)&lt;/a&gt; or to investors directly by &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ato.gov.au/individuals-and-families/investments-and-assets/shares-funds-and-trusts/investing-in-shares/refund-of-franking-credits-for-individuals#ato-Dividendsandfrankingcredits&quot;&gt;allowing them credits for corporate taxes paid&lt;/a&gt;, when they receive dividends.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Role in management&lt;/u&gt;: In most businesses, e&lt;i&gt;quity investors are given supremacy when it comes to managing the company&lt;/i&gt;, exercising that power through either direct ownership or corporate governance mechanisms (such as boards of directors). Again, there are exceptions, as is the case where lenders are given seats on boards of directors or veto power over major operating decisions, but these exceptions are usually triggered when companies violate covenants in loan agreements.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Maturity&lt;/u&gt;: Debt &lt;i&gt;usually has a finite maturity&lt;/i&gt;, though as we saw with the &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Google+hundred-year+bond+issuance+details&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Google hundred-year bond issuance&lt;/a&gt; just a few weeks ago, that maturity may be well beyond the lifetime of the buyers of the bond. Equity, in contrast, is, at least on paper, an instrument with no finite due date, and may have cash flows that last into perpetuity.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The figure below captures the differences between debt and equity in the context of a financial balance sheet:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTI6GAwKrMZTMO01bsyhgQlX0MFaZygaWu4r-nDY5DpWiJtDpfpYI4YO-Mr63mUuePzUrTTmcNfJ8oM_znPHtdKBzEHn8UynyL8gAr0C1ZgZOZX2MQzJyhv-hoy-3N0hzqVJ3PGCeUBpkst4VZaJq-fEojhBXxzaOBbr-ISMMCTdKL9CrVhU7gsOAVTTc/s1496/DebtvsEquityPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;728&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1496&quot; height=&quot;195&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTI6GAwKrMZTMO01bsyhgQlX0MFaZygaWu4r-nDY5DpWiJtDpfpYI4YO-Mr63mUuePzUrTTmcNfJ8oM_znPHtdKBzEHn8UynyL8gAr0C1ZgZOZX2MQzJyhv-hoy-3N0hzqVJ3PGCeUBpkst4VZaJq-fEojhBXxzaOBbr-ISMMCTdKL9CrVhU7gsOAVTTc/w400-h195/DebtvsEquityPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With these distinctions in place, and given that businesses have a choice of using either debt or equity to fund their operations, let us look at the trade off, starting with what the fictional (but often used) reasons for using one source of funding over the other:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhXSDB2R6DpQaFY1m6te09penE4ldem6AHv0uZaGYzYrNVB0DWuRVd2GiMY6gwcIzQrYQnzMN_HKoeRHJK_6tB-8ndNBR-v99Jl8ORdANQS1mgfmadxcYV6NEZWMlZABSBTWnrOfeaKN-YK3iMFkxPxDYJBTt5fF72s7rI97YjsQItM9WLlpVenUG5jIvc/s1158/DebtEquityFake.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;696&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1158&quot; height=&quot;240&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhXSDB2R6DpQaFY1m6te09penE4ldem6AHv0uZaGYzYrNVB0DWuRVd2GiMY6gwcIzQrYQnzMN_HKoeRHJK_6tB-8ndNBR-v99Jl8ORdANQS1mgfmadxcYV6NEZWMlZABSBTWnrOfeaKN-YK3iMFkxPxDYJBTt5fF72s7rI97YjsQItM9WLlpVenUG5jIvc/w400-h240/DebtEquityFake.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;One of the most &lt;i&gt;common (bad) reasons&lt;/i&gt; that I hear business owners and CFOs of even large companies give for borrowing money is that &lt;i&gt;debt is cheaper than equity&lt;/i&gt;. On the face of it, that is of course true, but it is an illusion, at least without the tax benefits kicking in. If the debt is fairly priced, i.e., you are being charged an interest rate that reflects your &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+default+risk&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;default risk&lt;/a&gt;, borrowing money will make your equity more risky and leave your cost of capital unchanged (if you have no default risk) or raise it (if you have default risk). Intuitively, your cost of capital is designed to capture the risk in your operations, and playing games on the financing side cannot change your operational risk. Among risk-takers, a common reason for using debt is that it will &lt;i&gt;increase your return on equity,&lt;/i&gt; and while that again is technically true, it will also raise your cost of equity and magnify the impact of both your successes and your failures. Thus, if you want to borrow money to magnify the payoff to you, as an equity investor, from a successful trade or investment, you should do so, but dispense with the illusion that this is a free lunch.&amp;nbsp; Those who avoid debt have their own share of illusions, starting with the argument that the &lt;i&gt;interest payments on borrowed money will lower net income&lt;/i&gt;. That is true, but since you have less equity invested, you may still come out as a beneficiary. They also argue that &lt;i&gt;debt will increase default risk&lt;/i&gt;, and lower their bond ratings, but of which are likely to happen, but the objective in business is not to maximize bond ratings, but to increase value; a BBB-rated firm that borrows money and gets tax advantages can be worth more than the same firm with a AAA rating and no debt.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; So what are the real trade offs? The first and biggest benefit of debt is &lt;i&gt;its tax treatment,&lt;/i&gt; with the tax benefits adding to firm value. Note, and this is said with no moral or ethical judgment attached to it, that &lt;i&gt;this increase in value is coming from taxpayers&lt;/i&gt; and not from your operations becoming more valuable. A secondary benefit may come from i&lt;i&gt;mposing discipline on managers in public companies,&lt;/i&gt; with the need to make interest payments operating as a restraint on a headlong rush into poorly performing investments. On the other side of the ledger, the biggest concern you should have when you borrow money is that &lt;i&gt;it increases the risk of bankruptcy&lt;/i&gt;, which if it happens, truncates business life, and even it does not, concerns about it happening can alter how customers, suppliers and investors interact with a business. The other cost that you face when you borrow money is that &lt;i&gt;equity investors and lenders have very different interests&lt;/i&gt;, with equity seeking upside and lenders worrying about downside, and the costs of that conflict of interests plays out in covenants and restrictions on operating activity. The figure below summarizes these real trade offs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0ce-Hw78vjqyWPdZQyWWvsMi3b2p-Gk3o9Gaf9zI0T4qEw-BZUsUKofPGLO5XxXeLSJOWHjSHP-GwMnJOVPkgifzP57GWiYOa4JDmwJR0lkMymhktuCcpfJl_LDEr3wxk-K6rPWggg38AexBKZz61MnZlLgYrwNu9WAF6i2zB92czGB4vakjKGJPKz3I/s1160/DebtEquityReal.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;502&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1160&quot; height=&quot;173&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0ce-Hw78vjqyWPdZQyWWvsMi3b2p-Gk3o9Gaf9zI0T4qEw-BZUsUKofPGLO5XxXeLSJOWHjSHP-GwMnJOVPkgifzP57GWiYOa4JDmwJR0lkMymhktuCcpfJl_LDEr3wxk-K6rPWggg38AexBKZz61MnZlLgYrwNu9WAF6i2zB92czGB4vakjKGJPKz3I/w400-h173/DebtEquityReal.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The tax benefits versus bankruptcy cost trade off on debt is a simple and very powerful explainer of how much companies should borrow, but in the real world, there are companies that sometimes override the tradeoff and choose to borrow far more or far less than you would expect them to, and they are not necessarily being irrational. Here are three reasons why companies may choose a sub-optimal financing mix:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Shields against bankruptcy&lt;/u&gt;: If the biggest restraint on borrowing more is the fear of default, a&lt;i&gt;nything that reduces or eliminates that fear &lt;/i&gt;will cause companies to borrow more money. That default protection can come from governments acting as implicit or explicit guarantors of corporate debt, as was the case with Korean companies in the 1990s, or from seeing other companies in trouble being bailed out by the government, because they were too big to fail.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Control versus Value&lt;/u&gt;: While businesses have the option of using either equity or debt to fund operations, &lt;i&gt;raising fresh equity usually requires giving up ownership of the business&lt;/i&gt; to venture capitalists (at a private business) or to other public market investors (for public companies). For founders and family groups that value control over almost everything else, this can result in firms borrowing money, even though the fundamentals do not support the action. This can explain why Middle Eastern firms, many of which get no tax benefit from debt, may choose to borrow money to fund operations, usually with higher costs of capital, as well as the existence of &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=what+is+venture+debt&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;venture debt&lt;/a&gt;, an almost absurd notion from a corporate finance standpoint, since you are lending to start-ups and young money-losing companies with unformed business models and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Subsidized debt:&lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp;If a business has access to debt with below-market interest rates, given default risk, it may make sense to borrow money at these subsidized rates. These debt subsidies are often granted to companies that are seen as delivering on a social purpose (green energy in the last decade) or a political/security interests (defense and infrastructure businesses), and you should therefore not be surprised if they all carry too much debt.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;On the other side of the ledger, there are three reasons why companies may borrow less than they should:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Restrictive covenants&lt;/u&gt;: In markets where debt comes primarily from bankers, it is possible that the covenants that come with this debt are so onerous that businesses will choose to leave tax benefits on the table in order to preserve operating flexibility; this may explain why technology companies, even those with large and stable cash flows, often choose not to borrow money or if they have to, go directly to bond markets.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Overpriced equity&lt;/u&gt;: Financial markets make mistakes, and sometimes those mistakes may work in your favor as a company with your stock price soaring well above what you think is justifiable, given your fundamentals. In that case, you may choose to use equity, even if you have debt capacity, using your own overpriced shares as currency in funding acquisitions.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Regulatory constraints&lt;/u&gt;: In some countries and/or sectors, there may be regulatory restrictions on borrowing that cap how much debt you can take on, even though you have the capacity to carry more in debt. Those restrictions can take the form of limits on book debt ratios or on how much interest expense is tax deductible, as a function of revenues or EBITDA.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;The picture below captures these frictional considerations:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjr8I7sTLngYzGjtBT2g1kXl5IJRe_yw6B310d1um6uNdUbFs57HS720Vv4_2xUzQfYRu3nsq1d6YblTsHif4iok2fIVrR4gnC64VXHP9TDJ-5YMGJnlseLq7Z-D9YQ-kHy1PoHYVSx5ps7HcOGdTZZ17O-A7yioacPsmKeHejD2EaKqROSLdllBZ7xkBI/s1116/DebtEquityFriction.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;656&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1116&quot; height=&quot;235&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjr8I7sTLngYzGjtBT2g1kXl5IJRe_yw6B310d1um6uNdUbFs57HS720Vv4_2xUzQfYRu3nsq1d6YblTsHif4iok2fIVrR4gnC64VXHP9TDJ-5YMGJnlseLq7Z-D9YQ-kHy1PoHYVSx5ps7HcOGdTZZ17O-A7yioacPsmKeHejD2EaKqROSLdllBZ7xkBI/w400-h235/DebtEquityFriction.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In sum, the choices between debt and equity play out differently at different companies, depending not only on the characteristics of the company (tax rate, default risk etc.) but also on the management team making that decision on whether to borrow money. If you are an optimizer, by nature, you may this discussion too diffuse, since it points you in a direction (more or less debt) and not to a specific debt mix, but that is easily remedied, if you use the cost of capital as your optimizing tool to find the mix of debt and equity that minimizes your cost of capital.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifFBFq3kCzNz_sVkK0GTrAoIRcpc9Nb0IfwY0GTORRr1CxkP94491VTgKKbHapnNh_M2Eq5gfEqxPNqgS4u8nbxGYcQvKVYDu_oMI7zyxshWKHp5t9mdvFoGuYLb0Y11qgDriikU-i-gbcoaXBDuominWwp3deNLzUpX7vLRkMSARZetJmcO44sLZJ8IM/s1158/CostofCapitalDebtOptimizer.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;800&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1158&quot; height=&quot;276&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifFBFq3kCzNz_sVkK0GTrAoIRcpc9Nb0IfwY0GTORRr1CxkP94491VTgKKbHapnNh_M2Eq5gfEqxPNqgS4u8nbxGYcQvKVYDu_oMI7zyxshWKHp5t9mdvFoGuYLb0Y11qgDriikU-i-gbcoaXBDuominWwp3deNLzUpX7vLRkMSARZetJmcO44sLZJ8IM/w400-h276/CostofCapitalDebtOptimizer.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/capstru.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download optimizer spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Rather than try your patience by belaboring that process, I can point you in the direction of how that is done in &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdEnaqWUYzM&quot;&gt;my corporate finance class sessions&lt;/a&gt;, and with &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/capstru.xlsx&quot;&gt;this tool&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Debt and Equity in 2025&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; With this tradeoff on debt and equity in mind, let&#39;s turn to the data, and in particular, I plan to focus on the choices that companies made globally, on the financing question, in 2025. I will start by looking at the two forces that should have the greatest relevance in this decision, t&lt;i&gt;he tax benefits of debt and the default risk&lt;/i&gt;, and then look at the mixes of financing across sectors, industries and regions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Tax Landscape&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Any discussion of taxes has to start with reality checks. The first is that &lt;i&gt;governments need tax revenues, to fund their spending, and corporations and businesses are a target&lt;/i&gt;, partly because they affect taxpayers (and voters) indirectly, rather than directly (as is the case with income and sales taxes). The second is that &lt;i&gt;businesses do not like to pay taxes, and try to minimize the taxes they pay&lt;/i&gt;, mostly through legal means, with accountants, transfer pricing specialists and tax lawyers abetting, though they sometimes step over the line into tax evasion. When measuring the tax burden that businesses face, we have to distinguish between three measures of tax rates:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+Marginal+Tax+Rates&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Marginal Tax Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;: The marginal tax rate reflects &lt;i&gt;the tax rate you face on the last dollar of your taxable income&lt;/i&gt;, and thus comes from the statutory tax code of the domicile that the business operates in. While there are a few companies that try to report these tax rates, you are more likely to uncover them by going into the tax code. Fortunately, the leading accounting firms keep updated estimates of these marginal tax rates in the public domain, as do some tax watchdogs, and I used&amp;nbsp; &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=The+Tax+Foundation&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The Tax Foundation&lt;/a&gt; for this year&#39;s updates across countries, and the numbers are in the picture below:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEib03LtGB6OdBWoasy5-cdS_2GnC4qwOEVASEecm8rqOBbo1n2ov8FJ3IgDtxzFGHuf-P_O5u9tBuAWYlrs09Dpq0hhid-VHukfu-S-6vjVYthh67oHHya_OYHp78oePaSPNHcDCxFtDSSLz-49lbik3CFPQtNiUBQnFyhTGeOQ0nNl9xBBwrmHVqGWwZQ/s5202/MargTaxRateHeatMap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;4572&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5202&quot; height=&quot;351&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEib03LtGB6OdBWoasy5-cdS_2GnC4qwOEVASEecm8rqOBbo1n2ov8FJ3IgDtxzFGHuf-P_O5u9tBuAWYlrs09Dpq0hhid-VHukfu-S-6vjVYthh67oHHya_OYHp78oePaSPNHcDCxFtDSSLz-49lbik3CFPQtNiUBQnFyhTGeOQ0nNl9xBBwrmHVqGWwZQ/w400-h351/MargTaxRateHeatMap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/countrytaxrates.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download corporate tax rates, by country&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;While your eye may be drawn to differences in corporate tax rates, across countries, these differences have narrowed, as the countries with the largest economies (and taxable business) are converging around a marginal tax rate of 25%. There are regional differences, with Latin America and Africa home to some of the highest corporate tax rates, and Eastern Europe and Russia home to some of the lowest. Clearly, there are exceptions within each region, with Ireland the leading outlier in Europe, with a marginal tax rate of 12%, and Paraguay in Latin America, with a marginal tax rate of 10%.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Effective tax rates&lt;/u&gt;: The effective tax rate is &lt;i&gt;an accounting measure, reflecting the taxes paid and taxable&amp;nbsp; income line items in the income statement,&lt;/i&gt; which follows accrual accounting principles. The effective and marginal tax rates can deviate for many reason, including corporate income earned in other countries, tax deferral strategies and even differences between tax and reporting books. I estimated effective tax rates for the companies in my database, and report the averages, by sub-region of the world, in the table below:&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibzF_fTHPHbIB8DionKZxh1ETIp8S3-7JcNFASAJjxQp5BPrrAwIgDrxnvWxchudUrabxmD1IHC6eCAAg9H4949llxG6-xnB93ibhwb8kLKMQ6qUh1Jjth60CouFZV8JVwqmtauzKOdgErIYkh-lkLvD0GgQh9-7zb4NK-YuSF9ioutSP3urRNXF0v_pY/s2412/RegionTaxTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;548&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2412&quot; height=&quot;91&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibzF_fTHPHbIB8DionKZxh1ETIp8S3-7JcNFASAJjxQp5BPrrAwIgDrxnvWxchudUrabxmD1IHC6eCAAg9H4949llxG6-xnB93ibhwb8kLKMQ6qUh1Jjth60CouFZV8JVwqmtauzKOdgErIYkh-lkLvD0GgQh9-7zb4NK-YuSF9ioutSP3urRNXF0v_pY/w400-h91/RegionTaxTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Corporate Marginal and Effective Tax Rates, by Country&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In the aggregate, the effective tax rates were lower than the marginal tax rates &lt;i&gt;in about 60% of the companies in my sample&lt;/i&gt;, and the difference is a &lt;i&gt;rough proxy for the effectiveness of a tax system&lt;/i&gt;, with marginal tax rates running close to or behind effective tax rates in more effective tax regimes. By that measure, India has the least effective tax code among the regions, with an effective tax rate of 22.33% and a marginal tax rate of 30%, followed by the United States and Japan, though the caveat would foreign sales in lower tax locales, in each of these cases. The tax rate statistics, broken down by industry, for global companies, is at this link, if you are interested.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Cash tax rates&lt;/u&gt;: The cash tax rates also come from accounting statements, with the information in the statement of cash flows used to convert accrual taxes paid to cash taxes paid, and are reflective of what companies actually pay to governments during the course of the year. In 2025, the average cash tax rate across companies with taxable income was 25.86% (21.02%) for global (US) firms, about 1% higher than the effective tax rate in both cases.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For the debt question, i&lt;i&gt;t is the marginal tax rate that is most relevant,&lt;/i&gt; at least for computing tax benefits, since interest expenses save you taxes at the margin; interest expenses get deducted to get to taxable income, and it is the last dollars of taxable income that thus get protected from paying taxes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Default/Distress Landscape&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;In a world where companies never default, and you still get tax benefits from borrowing, companies push towards higher and higher debt ratios. In the real world, &lt;i&gt;default acts as a brake on debt&lt;/i&gt;, with higher default risk translating into lower debt ratios. While default risk is company-specific, the exposure for default risk, across all companies, will vary over time, largely as a function of how well the economy is doing. The ratings agencies (Moody&#39;s, S&amp;amp;P and Fitch) track defaults on a year-to-year basis, and in 2025, they all recorded a drop in default rates across the globe, with US companies driving much of the decline. S&amp;amp;P, i&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/regulatory/article/default-transition-and-recovery-us-leads-2025-drop-in-global-corporate-defaults-s101665652&quot;&gt;n its review of 2025 default and distress&lt;/a&gt;, reported that a drop in corporate defaults from 145 in 2024 to 117 to 2025, with the US share of defaults declining from 67% to 62%.&amp;nbsp; To provide historical context, I looked at corporate default rates on loans (&lt;a href=&quot;https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DRALACBN&quot;&gt;using data from FRED&lt;/a&gt;) on a quarterly basis going back to 1986:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMFnMhyphenhyphen6Yaa_fh_3GQgw2Ak1uNPwVrTHbUV79u7H2hYLYh4ounWe-Oj8811QN0C3QAhp9HOO5pzH8YgTs1KbIBJzD6MBuaSvMtJYWJEaYzIYrr7-Fe-VQ-vifqR0zL0oSXwanUVPHJ0lyj7vlAKwjk5KC2EzLsckkMSgj8O6Q0xvnA2btq28PuLM-l6VQ/s1370/CorpLoanDefaultRate.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;966&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1370&quot; height=&quot;283&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMFnMhyphenhyphen6Yaa_fh_3GQgw2Ak1uNPwVrTHbUV79u7H2hYLYh4ounWe-Oj8811QN0C3QAhp9HOO5pzH8YgTs1KbIBJzD6MBuaSvMtJYWJEaYzIYrr7-Fe-VQ-vifqR0zL0oSXwanUVPHJ0lyj7vlAKwjk5KC2EzLsckkMSgj8O6Q0xvnA2btq28PuLM-l6VQ/w400-h283/CorpLoanDefaultRate.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DRALACBN&quot;&gt;Corporate loan default rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While the low defaults in 2025 were a positive sign for lenders, especially given the economic turmoil created by tariffs and trade wars, there were some worrying trends as well. In May 2025, Moody&#39;s estimate of the p&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.moodys.com/web/en/us/insights/data-stories/us-corporate-default-risk-in-2025.html&quot;&gt;robability of default at US companies spiked to 9.2%&lt;/a&gt;, its highest value since the 2008 crisis. On the bond ratings front, you had &lt;i&gt;more ratings downgrades than upgrades&lt;/i&gt; during the year, and almost $60 billion in corporate bonds slipped below investment grade during the&amp;nbsp; year.&amp;nbsp; Breaking down all rated companies, by S&amp;amp;P ratings class, and by region, at the end of 2025:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBikhjuDWesW0vYXcXegBin8Ni-6cDGiLDMkaP4gaOPowAe9aWIvudiTprGIP73kh2GMIEt14ptRTprmnIGxfzR_ZfSf6AFIuactsjyY4Rkwtl5_IUI1_PWPe1uHihxKpW1JlXDL6rlgmlFTDFrtUzmafWxJi_OS2DqiZrtzm0Rt__jorSVuMzB3gwHz8/s2310/RatingsTable2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1024&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2310&quot; height=&quot;178&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBikhjuDWesW0vYXcXegBin8Ni-6cDGiLDMkaP4gaOPowAe9aWIvudiTprGIP73kh2GMIEt14ptRTprmnIGxfzR_ZfSf6AFIuactsjyY4Rkwtl5_IUI1_PWPe1uHihxKpW1JlXDL6rlgmlFTDFrtUzmafWxJi_OS2DqiZrtzm0Rt__jorSVuMzB3gwHz8/w400-h178/RatingsTable2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Source: S&amp;amp;P Cap IQ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The US has the highest percentage of listed companies with bond ratings, but even in the US, only 11.43% of companies carry that rating, and that percentage is far lower in other parts of the world. Among rated companies, &lt;i&gt;the US has the highest percentage of below investment-grade ratings&lt;/i&gt;, suggesting that in much of the rest of the world, there is a self-selection that occurs, where only companies that believe that they will get high ratings are willing to go through the ratings process. Finally, at the start of 2026, there are only AAA rated-companies left in the world, at least according to S&amp;amp;P, in Johnson &amp;amp; Johnson and Microsoft. Looking at 2025, through the lens of default, the numbers look comforting, at least on the surface, with the number of defaults decreasing, but there was disquiet below, as bond buyers wrestled with the consequences of a changing economic world order, and worries about another crisis lurking in the wings.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Debt Burden in 2025&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;With the background data on tax rates and default risk in place, I will turn to measuring the debt in publicly traded firms, in 2025, and differences in debt burdens across companies, sectors and regions. That mission requires clarity on how to measure debt burdens, and the picture below offers the choices:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyiqmfBf_tMBCiQBNdI1wOb1IpT8BH68n0bQsxhU65ifJouM46qi0PBWLS4D2niEgG_OVEztkB4vg8-FnBctEst-f0oWAll3XdRwHHtYTvDMURcWtehM2VPaMXTGNaIYJ9_l4l0v1E5QXi1l2xAouVTfO3snEkcD4lV73BY7Y2X-Ckx4GBPBcXAXXrB18/s1480/DebtBurdenMeasures.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;954&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1480&quot; height=&quot;258&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyiqmfBf_tMBCiQBNdI1wOb1IpT8BH68n0bQsxhU65ifJouM46qi0PBWLS4D2niEgG_OVEztkB4vg8-FnBctEst-f0oWAll3XdRwHHtYTvDMURcWtehM2VPaMXTGNaIYJ9_l4l0v1E5QXi1l2xAouVTfO3snEkcD4lV73BY7Y2X-Ckx4GBPBcXAXXrB18/w400-h258/DebtBurdenMeasures.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Broadly speaking, debt burden metrics can capture &lt;i&gt;debt comfort,&lt;/i&gt; i.e., the buffer that businesses have built in to meet their debt obligations and &lt;i&gt;debt level&lt;/i&gt;, where you look at debt as a percent of overall funding. In the former group, there are two proxies that you can use to gauge the borrowing buffer&amp;nbsp; - the &lt;i&gt;&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+interest+coverage+ratio&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;interest coverage ratio&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, measuring how much companies have as operating income, relative to their interest expenses, and the &lt;i&gt;debt as a multiple of EBITDA&lt;/i&gt;, capturing how many years it will take a company to pay off its debt, if current EBITDA is sustained. In the latter, I will look at debt as a percent of capital invested, using both a&lt;i&gt;ccounting measures of capital invested&lt;/i&gt; (book value) and &lt;i&gt;market value measures&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Debt comfort&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; When companies borrow money, the contractual claims from that debt usually take two forms. The first is interest expenses, and ongoing claim that gives you tax benefits but has to be covered out of income generated each year, and the second is repayment of principal, which comes due at maturity. The &lt;i&gt;interest coverage ratio focuses entirely on the former&lt;/i&gt;, and interest payments are scaled to how much a company generates in operating income:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;Interest coverage ratio = Earnings before interest and taxes/ Interest expenses&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;This ratio is simple, with &lt;i&gt;high values associated with less default risk and more safety, at least from a lending perspective.&lt;/i&gt; It is still powerful, and it remains the financial ratio that best explains differences in bond ratings across non-financial service companies, and I use it to estimate synthetic bond ratings for firms in my corporate financial analysis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The problem with interest coverage ratios is that they ignore the other contractual obligation that emerges from debt, which is principal payments due, and the ratio that is most often used to measure that exposure &lt;i&gt;scales total debt at a firm to its earnings before interest, taxes and depreciation&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Debt to EBITDA = Total Debt/ EBITDA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;With this ratio, l&lt;i&gt;ower values are associated with less default risk and more safety&lt;/i&gt;, because a firm, at least if it wanted to, could pay off its debt in fewer years with its operating cash flows.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In the table below, I look at interest coverage ratios and debt to EBITDA values, by sector, for US and global companies, using the same approach I employed in my last update and reporting a ratio based &lt;i&gt;on aggregated values as well as the distribution of the ratio across companies&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgu2PY9ZHUmN8is9FnS8LPWqmSjKE7WunHmyFx7hZMEa65_cxv_rJoQA-LoBeP3Uw7jgKnjDv_EDv1xgnmUVW19tHQZWpjwkME0wPb5IO91UmVL-Zck2VsmsL4Skhp70s5U8yHaEoXKP3fm4i2yrgbOJg-eU2YHuNzDTn1laOtbwxI8cYnSx2LoDCdrKAM/s2018/DebtComfortNewTAble.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1088&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2018&quot; height=&quot;216&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgu2PY9ZHUmN8is9FnS8LPWqmSjKE7WunHmyFx7hZMEa65_cxv_rJoQA-LoBeP3Uw7jgKnjDv_EDv1xgnmUVW19tHQZWpjwkME0wPb5IO91UmVL-Zck2VsmsL4Skhp70s5U8yHaEoXKP3fm4i2yrgbOJg-eU2YHuNzDTn1laOtbwxI8cYnSx2LoDCdrKAM/w400-h216/DebtComfortNewTAble.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, with both the US and global groupings, &lt;i&gt;technology companies have the largest safety buffers when it comes to debt, with very high interest coverage ratios and low debt to EBITDA&lt;/i&gt;, whereas &lt;i&gt;real estate and utilities have the least buffers, with low interest coverage ratios and high debt to EBITDA&lt;/i&gt;. As always, the contrast between the aggregated and median values indicate that larger companies, not surprisingly, operate with stronger buffers than smaller companies in almost every sector grouping. Finally, the debt comfort numbers are not computed for financial service companies, for the same reasons that we did not compute costs of and returns on capital for these firms - debt to a bank is raw material and not capital.&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. Debt level&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you go back to the financial balance sheet structure that I started this post with, t&lt;i&gt;he debt measure that emerges is one that scales it to the equity invested in the firm (debt to equity) and to the capital invested (debt to capital).&lt;/i&gt; These measures have resonance in corporate finance in valuation, because they become drivers of the costs of equity and debt and ingredients in the cost of capital.That said, you can measure this ratio using &lt;/span&gt;book value debt to capital (or equity), where you stay with the values of debt and equity reported on accounting balance sheets or with market value debt to capital (and equity ratios), where you use market values for debt and equity. At the risk of sounding dogmatic, &lt;i&gt;book value debt ratios should never come into play in financial analysis&lt;/i&gt; and it is market value ratios that matter for two reasons. The first relates back to all of the criticisms I had of accounting invested capital in the context of computing account returns - it is dated and skewed by accounting contradictions and actions. The second is that it is unrelated to what you are trying to measure in a cost of capital, which is what it would cost you to acquire the firm today, where it is market price that determines how much you have to pay, not book value. That said, there remain a fairly large subset of analysts and firms who swear allegiance to book value for a variety of reasons, most of which have no basis in reality. I report book and market debt to capital ratios for all publicly traded firms, broken down by sector for global and US companies:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOxmXirOPiu8NCGefumWtvK6wVvG4i9cmGCLaKZljm0EY7VAFCc-BW90rQDPgieEVHgOjdKNYK1LohFce1mONXpT4-lxhEF5NlZRG_oH1bDN5syNZLPvbFY0b0jXCTjnDsxMF4sndgV44GSUMep7mFwIMH0RokIIAhhkBXEfPvfkiEmNs8eXb1RqS_hnw/s2832/DebtLoadTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1178&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2832&quot; height=&quot;166&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOxmXirOPiu8NCGefumWtvK6wVvG4i9cmGCLaKZljm0EY7VAFCc-BW90rQDPgieEVHgOjdKNYK1LohFce1mONXpT4-lxhEF5NlZRG_oH1bDN5syNZLPvbFY0b0jXCTjnDsxMF4sndgV44GSUMep7mFwIMH0RokIIAhhkBXEfPvfkiEmNs8eXb1RqS_hnw/w400-h166/DebtLoadTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, companies look significantly more debt-laden with book value numbers than with market value, and in sectors like technology, where accountants fail to bring the biggest assets on to the books, the difference is even starker. The results in this table reinforce the findings in the debt comfort table, with technology companies carrying very little debt (3-5% in market cap terms) and utilities and real estate carrying the highest. I also reported, on the aggregated numbers, the gross and net debt ratios, with the latter netting cash holdings from debt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=AI+Investing+and+Debt&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;AI Investing and Debt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;In every data update post that I have written so far this year, AI has become a component of the discussion, reflecting the outsized role it played not just in market pricing during 2025, but also in business decisions made during the year. To see the connection between AI and debt, I will start with AI investing side, where hundreds of billions were spent by companies building AI infrastructure and large language models (LLMs) during 2025, with plans to spend more in the years to come. A sizable portion of this AI capital expenditure have come from big tech companies, with &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Meta+Alphabet+Amazon+Oracle+Microsoft+AI+investment&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1015588734760127227&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Meta, Alphabet, Amazon, Oracle and Microsoft&lt;/a&gt; all making large bets on the future of AI, and the extent of their investment is visible in the graph below, where I look at capital expenditures and cash acquisitions at these firms (with Broadcom added to the mix) from 2015 to 2025:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjCEWkD1dCC9SXrP9GaNdMElZQEgNbXlPLen_EEBGYuvQibWjeJJ7UxvBXMCC1uD4xwvICt3TO7siO-VQGYypwPioumu6TOvrkbuVzc66JGCBvRh2x9fZm1NI1ayNPzpsPd4CeAuj11dwUnktam12oTNzfJAksJIhf7QaMaPAoMgAkAy1ig2JPZRbUBrlo/s1650/BigTechCapEx.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1200&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1650&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjCEWkD1dCC9SXrP9GaNdMElZQEgNbXlPLen_EEBGYuvQibWjeJJ7UxvBXMCC1uD4xwvICt3TO7siO-VQGYypwPioumu6TOvrkbuVzc66JGCBvRh2x9fZm1NI1ayNPzpsPd4CeAuj11dwUnktam12oTNzfJAksJIhf7QaMaPAoMgAkAy1ig2JPZRbUBrlo/w400-h291/BigTechCapEx.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The shift at these firms from capital-light to capital-intensive models over this period has been staggering, with the collective investment in 2025 alone hitting $400 billion, with guidance suggesting that they are only getting started. It is worth noting that while big tech has garnered the AI cap ex headline, there are a whole host of other companies that are investing in AI architecture, which include real estate, data centers and power, and many of these companies are still not publicly listed. Going back to investment first principles, you can debate whether these companies can expect to generate positive net present value from their AI investments, and I have argued in earlier posts that &lt;b&gt;it is very likely that they are collectively over investing&lt;/b&gt;, with &lt;b&gt;over confidence and a fear of being left behind driving their both corporate investments and investor pricing,&lt;/b&gt; in keeping what you would expect when there is a &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3501688&quot;&gt;big market delusion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhlqOzfH971eWTNhNvW1taWWmQrPsOpYv7O_v-dbb83DwMDw2aAW0aKVKj9qF5OPvl57ZqKwsZMgKf20pirlsDnGlSEGHPt3IHTPLLU2w6220xhiCzRCap48RncmyZrLEjhHn0vB14KqW_-EHuVWWpzKk4y2p1zmPz7yoBI9p0rf1P687sAervh8WGN0U/s1448/BigMarketAIDelusion.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1118&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1448&quot; height=&quot;309&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhlqOzfH971eWTNhNvW1taWWmQrPsOpYv7O_v-dbb83DwMDw2aAW0aKVKj9qF5OPvl57ZqKwsZMgKf20pirlsDnGlSEGHPt3IHTPLLU2w6220xhiCzRCap48RncmyZrLEjhHn0vB14KqW_-EHuVWWpzKk4y2p1zmPz7yoBI9p0rf1P687sAervh8WGN0U/w400-h309/BigMarketAIDelusion.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;This big market delusion is a feature, not a bug, and we have seen it play out with dot com stocks in the 1990s, online advertising companies about ten years and even with cannabis stocks in the early years of their listing. The belief that the AI market will be huge, and have two or three big winners, is driving an investing frenzy not just at the big tech companies, but also in smaller start-ups and young firms, but the the market is not big enough to accommodate the expectations across all of these firms, and that will inevitably lead to a correction and clean up.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The AI investing boom enters the financing storyline, which is the focus for this post, because it needs immense amounts of capital. For many of the big tech companies, much of that capital has come from their existing businesses which are cash machines, although the AI cap ex will deplete the free cash flows available to return to shareholders. That said, though, the ramping up of capital investment has been so dramatic that even the cash-rich bit tech companies have turned to debt, as you can see in the graph below:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjfJzhAX4fhsbW9_tFm5yBJW31nqFZCovvyZSR8ORcRECiIAKkHMrQ1NEXsbCweyBm9PAowOWrFRHR3fVlGrYACMutKsiHth3a2UXAnX4p_sJXrWGoFaJY6HTuXH3EKU89VKs0MGANLhWZOjTfElCVAsZli3R06YXe6m_qq8UAWCfX47BDYToA0urTdeMk/s1648/BigTechDebtIssuance.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1200&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1648&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjfJzhAX4fhsbW9_tFm5yBJW31nqFZCovvyZSR8ORcRECiIAKkHMrQ1NEXsbCweyBm9PAowOWrFRHR3fVlGrYACMutKsiHth3a2UXAnX4p_sJXrWGoFaJY6HTuXH3EKU89VKs0MGANLhWZOjTfElCVAsZli3R06YXe6m_qq8UAWCfX47BDYToA0urTdeMk/w400-h291/BigTechDebtIssuance.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;In 2025, the big tech companies collectively borrowed $160 billion, but given their cashflows and market capitalization, that debt does not put them at risk. For many of the smaller and lower-profile companies investing in this space, where internal cashflows are insufficient, there is a need for external capital, with some coming from equity and a significant portion coming from debt. It is in the context of the debt that I have to pick up on another storyline, which is the rise of private credit as an alternative to banks and the corporate bond market.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJjrqkxcX0avMeNStjnsZFtiunauGI3fKQVCA0q0b6rSJnXGbjNEoVovAE-jwgpFOYcIhEoeCyVSN3UVHqZ8_W9MkQCaiBLoVfuS6GwyKb0JJtG0L4SJIy0305sZYJrqMUT4ZfcVWEhv1cOqyG1TQTbwU_-_ZmIpfeAcn_nLfSECNvJUjA8-AvC74kpaU/s1478/PrivateDebtChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1068&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1478&quot; height=&quot;289&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJjrqkxcX0avMeNStjnsZFtiunauGI3fKQVCA0q0b6rSJnXGbjNEoVovAE-jwgpFOYcIhEoeCyVSN3UVHqZ8_W9MkQCaiBLoVfuS6GwyKb0JJtG0L4SJIy0305sZYJrqMUT4ZfcVWEhv1cOqyG1TQTbwU_-_ZmIpfeAcn_nLfSECNvJUjA8-AvC74kpaU/w400-h289/PrivateDebtChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you look at the explosive growth of private credit in this graph, it is worth emphasizing that private credit has been available as an option for borrowers for as long as borrowing has been around, but its usage explode in the last two decades. As AI has increasingly taken a starring role in markets, evidence is accumulating that more private debt is being directed to financing the AI investment boom,. With &lt;a href=&quot;https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/private-credit-exposure-to-ai-disruption-high-not-priced-in-ubs&quot;&gt;more than $200 billion in private debt going to AI firms in 2025&lt;/a&gt;, AI-related debt is rising as a percent of private credit portfolios.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As private credit has grown as an option, core questions remain of what it brings to a market as&amp;nbsp; differentiating features that allow it to supplant more traditional lending alternatives, i.e. banking and the corporate bond market. Here are some of the reasons offered by private credit advocates for why it may be a preferred choice for entities, in general, and for those investing in AI architecture, in particular:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Better default risk assessments&lt;/u&gt;: One of the arguments that private credit lenders make is that they have the technical know-how to use data, that banks and bond markets have been more averse to using or have been constrained from using, to &lt;i&gt;get better assessments of default risk&lt;/i&gt;. Those assessments, assuming that they are right, allows private credit to lend to entities at rates that are lower than they would be charged, with conventional risk assessments. In principle, that is a solid rationale, but I am unclear about what data it is that traditional lenders are not utilizing that private credit can use, but it is possible that technology and access to the internals of borrowing entities may provide an edge. In fact, the only way to gauge whether this argument of better credit assessment holds up is with a credit shock, where defaults spike across the board.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Cashflows-based versus Asset-based lending&lt;/u&gt;: A second argument is that traditional lenders, and especially banks, are focused too much on the value of the assets that they are lending against and too little on the cash flows. It is true that bank lending in particular is too focused on asset value, but that focus would provide an opening for private credit in AI, only if AI data centers and architecture investments are poised to start delivering large and positive cash flows soon, and banks are holding back on lending them money. I am hard pressed to think of too many AI investments that have these near-term payoffs.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Speedier and more Flexible/Customized Responses&lt;/u&gt;: IThis may be the biggest selling point for private credit in the AI investment world, where the investing entities are not just spending billions on AI architecture, but are in a hurry to do so. The regulatory and institutional constraints built into bank lending will stretch the process out in time, and issuing bonds, even if it were an option, comes with its own delay components. In addition, the debt for AI investments may need far more customization than what banks and bond markets can offer, or are allowed to offer, giving private credit an advantage. The problem with speed and customization being the biggest sales pitches for private credit is that it can go with taking short cuts on due diligence and adding terms to loans that cut against prudence, and those can be fatal to lending businesses.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Clearly, these reasons for the presence of private debt have merit, but only to a subset of borrowers, mostly smaller and private, and without a long borrowing history, and for a subset of projects. None that these reasons resonate for the larger tech companies, which have options to borrow money quickly and at fair market rates both from banks and the bond market, and Google&#39;s recent &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.forbes.com/sites/brandonkochkodin/2026/02/12/is-alphabets-100-year-bond-a-buy-or-sell-signal-for-googles-stock/&quot;&gt;hundred year bond issue&lt;/a&gt; is an indication of how much slack bond markets are willing to concede to these firms. When a private credit fund lends Meta for an AI investment, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-forms-joint-venture-with-blue-owl-capital-louisiana-data-center-2025-10-21/&quot;&gt;as Blue Owl did in this transaction,&lt;/a&gt; the skeptic in me sees either a below-market-rate loan or one with terms that no prudent lender would accept in a loan, and neither is a sustainable lending strategy in the long term.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The coming together of the two storylines on AI and private credit comes with a risk that may extend well beyond the players in these spaces. If you agree with my contention that companies are collectively over investing in AI, driven by the big market delusion, there will be a time when that delusion&amp;nbsp; dissipates and markets will have to correct. In an all or mostly-equity driven space, the pain will be borne by shareholders or owners of these companies, but while painful to them, its ripple effects will be limited. When debt enters the picture, as it has in the AI investment space, the effects of a correction will no longer be isolated to equity investors in these companies, and as private credit gets repriced (from the marking of debt down to reflect higher default risk), the pain to the rest of the economy increases. In effect, we will have a banking crisis created primarily by non-banking lenders behaving badly. We saw some of this start to happen in the last year, as the glow came off the AI rose, and S&amp;amp;P noted the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.spglobal.com/ratings/en/regulatory/article/ai-disruption-worries-spill-over-to-private-credit-markets-s101670132&quot;&gt;stresses that it put on private credit players&lt;/a&gt;. Private credit has had a good run, in terms of delivering returns to investors in it, but it has, in my opinion, the relentless selling of it as an alternative investment class has made it much too big. A shakeout is overdue, which will separate the sloppy lenders from the good ones, and perhaps shrink private credit to healthier levels.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/3X6rah8r4Do?si=w5RLpVuTRJOu8IWg&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/CountryTaxRates2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Marginal and Effective tax rates, by country (January 2026)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Debt comfort ratios, by industry (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/DebtIndustryUS2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;US&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/DebtIndustryGlobal2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Global&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Debt load ratios, by industry (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/DebtIndustryUS2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;US&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/DebtIndustryGlobal2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Global&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard; text-decoration-style: solid; text-decoration-thickness: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheet&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/capstru.xlsx&quot;&gt;Capital structure optimizer&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Paper on Big Market Delusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3501688&quot;&gt;The Big Market Delusion (with Brad Cornell)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Update Posts for 2026&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested and pass again!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 8 for 2026: Dividends and Buybacks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1015588734760127227/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/1015588734760127227' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1015588734760127227'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1015588734760127227'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html' title='Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTI6GAwKrMZTMO01bsyhgQlX0MFaZygaWu4r-nDY5DpWiJtDpfpYI4YO-Mr63mUuePzUrTTmcNfJ8oM_znPHtdKBzEHn8UynyL8gAr0C1ZgZOZX2MQzJyhv-hoy-3N0hzqVJ3PGCeUBpkst4VZaJq-fEojhBXxzaOBbr-ISMMCTdKL9CrVhU7gsOAVTTc/s72-w400-h195-c/DebtvsEquityPicture.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1030853593536250525</id><published>2026-02-16T15:12:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2026-03-03T16:51:18.872-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Data Updates"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Excess Returns"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Profitability"/><title type='text'>Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Crass and mercantile though this may sound, the end game for a business is to make money, and a business that fails this simple test cannot survive for long, no matter how noble its social mission, how great its products and how much it is loved by its customers and employees. In this post, I start with a defense of this mercantile objective, and argue that attempts to expand it to incorporate social good leave both businesses and societies worse off.&amp;nbsp; I look at business profitability, first in absolute terms in 2025, and then relative to revenues, examining why profit margins vary across businesses and sectors. I then raise the ante and argue that making money is too low a standard to hold companies to, since the capital invested in these companies can generate returns elsewhere, opening the door to bringing in the opportunity costs (costs of equity and capital) that I &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;introduced in my last post&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Business End Game&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;In 1970, &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Milton+Friedman&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=1030853593536250525&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Milton Friedman&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nytimes.com/1970/09/13/archives/a-friedman-doctrine-the-social-responsibility-of-business-is-to.html&quot;&gt;argued in a New York Times article&lt;/a&gt; that the social responsibility of a business is to deliver (and increase) profits. That view has come under attack in recent decades, but even in the immediate aftermath of the article’s appearance, there was some push back. Some came from people who argued that Friedman was missing details, with a few noting that it is cashflows, not earnings, that businesses should focus on, and others arguing that it is profits over the long term, not just immediate profits, that should be the focus of a business. My guess is that Professor Friedman would have agreed on both fronts, arguing that he was talking about economic, not accounting, profits, and that there was nothing in his mission statement that foreclosed a focus on long term profits.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In the decades since, there has been a more fundamental critique of the Friedman business end game, coming from those who believe that his view is far too cramped and narrow a vision for a business, and that businesses have obligations to society and the planet that need to be incorporated into decision-making. Initially, these critics argued for imposing social and environmental constraints on the profitability objective, and while Friedman may have taken issue with some of these constraints, arguing that that is what laws and regulations should be doing, he would (probably) have gone along with most of them, given real world frictions. Later, though, these critics decided to go for the jugular, arguing that the business objective itself be reframed to include these broader responsibilities, with some arguing for stakeholder wealth maximization, where businesses seek to maximize value to their different stakeholders (employees, lenders, customers). That idea gained traction among some academics, many of whom never grappled with putting this objective into practice in real businesses, and among some CEOs, who realized that being accountable to everyone effectively meant being accountable to no one, but &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2019/08/from-shareholder-wealth-to-stakeholder.html&quot;&gt;I am not a fan&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;About two decades ago, stakeholder wealth maximization was&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;supplemented by ESG, an acronym that quickly got buy-in from the establishment. In 2020, when I &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2020/09/sounding-good-or-doing-good-skeptical.html&quot;&gt;first looked at ESG&lt;/a&gt;, it was at the height of its allure, with investment managers (led by Blackrock), consultants (with McKinsey up front) and academics, all pushing for its adoption. Given the broad buy in, I expected to see clear and conclusive evidence that ESG was not just good for investors and businesses, but also for society, and I was disappointed on every front. The alpha that was attributed to ESG in investing was accidental, coming almost entirely from its overload on tech stocks in its early years, the evidence that ESG helped businesses deliver higher growth and profits was laughably weak, and on almost every societal dimension that ESG was supposed to make the world a better place, it had failed. Even on risk, the one dimension where a rational argument can be mounted for companies following the ESG rulebook, its impact was hazy, with no discernible effects on costs of capital and only anecdotal (and mostly ex-post) evidence for protecting against reputational and catastrophic risks. In the last five years, ESG has fallen out of favor, largely undone by its own internal inconsistencies, but the gravy train that lived off its largesse has moved on, and taken much of what filled the ESG space, repackaged it, and renamed it sustainability. While advocates for sustainability try to create distance between ESG and sustainability, in my (biased) view, much of that discussion is akin to painting lipstick on a pig and then debating what shade of lipstick suits the pig best, rather than attempting to create real change.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It is with intent, therefor, that I named these three forces - stakeholder wealth maximization, ESG and sustainability - the theocratic trifecta in a &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2024/11/the-siren-song-of-sustainability.html&quot;&gt;post that I wrote three years ago&lt;/a&gt;, and argued that they failed for the same reasons.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhugWGTDewk4t8GNYdrbv-LaXzYiFodEln0qr95oMPw7Rcy19WP1iUvj0-O9ey-XAdO9upd69nMkIfhT6JwPnUXERfUAATgbtK2Wi9wGXmziNs866v35r_LVS05l3TBUMdA2hXUMNWc8ILVFt_DS2KIkLTThxcsPK_ttKiUbnAqaXi7rrnUxSu1mGTPWr8/s1522/TheoTrifecta.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1158&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1522&quot; height=&quot;304&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhugWGTDewk4t8GNYdrbv-LaXzYiFodEln0qr95oMPw7Rcy19WP1iUvj0-O9ey-XAdO9upd69nMkIfhT6JwPnUXERfUAATgbtK2Wi9wGXmziNs866v35r_LVS05l3TBUMdA2hXUMNWc8ILVFt_DS2KIkLTThxcsPK_ttKiUbnAqaXi7rrnUxSu1mGTPWr8/w400-h304/TheoTrifecta.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;First, by &lt;i&gt;rooting themselves in virtue&lt;/i&gt; rather than in business sense, they rendered a disservice to their own cause. After all, once you decide that you are on the side of goodness, any critics of what you do, no matter how well merited their criticism might be, are quickly consigned to the badness heap, and not just ignored, but also reviled for lacking moral fibre. The problem, of course, is that if an action makes business sense (increases profitability and value), you would not need a virtue brigade to push for that action in the first place. Second, by leaving the &lt;i&gt;definitions of their central ideas (stakeholder wealth, ESG and sustainability) amorphous&lt;/i&gt;, they made it easier to sell to investors and companies, but at the expense of consistency and focus. In my &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2022/03/esgs-russia-test-moment-to-shine-or.html&quot;&gt;2022 post on ESG&lt;/a&gt;, where the Russian invasion of Ukraine had forced its defenders to morph in the face of evidence that that world was more dependent on fossil fuels and defense companies than they had been willing to concede in earlier years, I noted the loss of credibility that comes from shifting definitions of goodness. Third, and most critically, in their zeal to push these concepts to a wider audience and get more people to buy in, they &lt;i&gt;sold a lie, i.e., that you can be good (whatever that definition of good may be) without sacrific&lt;/i&gt;e. I have no idea whether ESG and sustainability salespeople meant what they said when they argued that investors could earn higher returns, by adding ESG constraints to their portfolios, and that companies could become more profitable, if they incorporated environmental and social considerations into decision making, but my categorization of people in these spaces as either useful idiots or feckless knaves stems from a refusal to face up to the inherent trade offs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; After decades of pushback from critics of the Friedman business end game, I, for one, believe that Milton Friedman was right, and that we would all be better off to follow up and ask the question of what can be done, given that businesses are profit-seekers, to advance social good and curb externalities. I don&#39;t believe that the &lt;i&gt;disclosure route&lt;/i&gt;, which seems to have become the fallback for some seeking better business behavior, will accomplish much, and it &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2021/10/triggered-disclosures-escaping.html&quot;&gt;may do more harm than good&lt;/a&gt;. While &lt;i&gt;laws and regulations&lt;/i&gt; can provide a partial fix, they are blunt instruments, and in a setting where businesses can move easily across borders, they may not be effective. Ultimately, we (as consumers and voter) get the businesses we deserve, and if after paying lip service to social causes, we buy products and vote for governments&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;hat undercut those causes, no acronym or word salad will repair the breach.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Profitability in Businesses&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;I meant to have a short lead-in on why profitability matters at businesses, but as you can see from the previous section, I did get side tracked, but the underlying message is that making money is central to business success and survival, and that measuring profitability is therefore a necessary part of assessing business success and value.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;Economic versus Accounting Profits&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The Friedman view on the business endgame may have been driven by a vision of economic profits, but in the real world, we are dependent on accounting measures of profits, which are, at best, imperfect substitutes for economic profits. The table below looks at an accounting income statement, highlighting the many measures of profits - gross, operating and net - that you will find in it:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjclzhYxagX9fa0QAxYP7ad6SstXVxf_-c2lYZi7a4D6ATR3x3pE5MFOjhglN1Bz-bTsM15Pq_s6m64gB5Ct8ommaR81GFHRaiUX_mZfeP0nRwBVN2xvU3yFZ8N5Zs9Rm-tjUQ0mAj4DhPDE7450EDLQYQvIDfEg38Pj-oocavw6NUAOu_-vfKqeTm2aGc/s1250/IncStatement.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;688&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1250&quot; height=&quot;220&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjclzhYxagX9fa0QAxYP7ad6SstXVxf_-c2lYZi7a4D6ATR3x3pE5MFOjhglN1Bz-bTsM15Pq_s6m64gB5Ct8ommaR81GFHRaiUX_mZfeP0nRwBVN2xvU3yFZ8N5Zs9Rm-tjUQ0mAj4DhPDE7450EDLQYQvIDfEg38Pj-oocavw6NUAOu_-vfKqeTm2aGc/w400-h220/IncStatement.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Each profit measure has utility, with gross profits reflecting&lt;i&gt; unit economics&lt;/i&gt;, the difference between gross and operating profits capturing &lt;i&gt;economies of scale&lt;/i&gt; and the difference between operating and net profits being driven by &lt;i&gt;taxes&lt;/i&gt; and choices that businesses make on &lt;i&gt;debt&lt;/i&gt; and non-operating assets. In 2025, looking at the aggregate values (in millions of US $) for these line items across sectors, here are the numbers, for both global firms and just the US subset:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLLzVhr-XQ9y8YGXHuQmkOkuo8d1zuhRdZ-fBp5Yfem39-7mzFxLAWYXrkcq4FlP8GNt1ZN-3KFhllGQc1iFm9oT2A1EuNA0BXhZjP1lvkCmbWeBbjhBKZyQxjQwJLTyCEyt0BpUcDeV_tyea63bfEIQLC0axP-8UrIB36HJW01n9ERxcXAsOorHlxlkI/s2380/DollarProfitTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;662&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2380&quot; height=&quot;111&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLLzVhr-XQ9y8YGXHuQmkOkuo8d1zuhRdZ-fBp5Yfem39-7mzFxLAWYXrkcq4FlP8GNt1ZN-3KFhllGQc1iFm9oT2A1EuNA0BXhZjP1lvkCmbWeBbjhBKZyQxjQwJLTyCEyt0BpUcDeV_tyea63bfEIQLC0axP-8UrIB36HJW01n9ERxcXAsOorHlxlkI/w400-h111/DollarProfitTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In the aggregate, global firms generated&lt;i&gt; $6.2 trillion in net income and $7.7 trillion in operating income on revenues of $72.4 trillion&lt;/i&gt;, in 2025; during the same year, US firms generated &lt;i&gt;$2.2 trillion in net income and $2.9 trillion in operating income on revenues of $22.7 trillion in revenues&lt;/i&gt;. Across sectors, and looking at revenues, industrials carried the most weight for the global sample, but health care generated the most revenues across the US sub-sample.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Profits scaled to Revenues - Profit Margins&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The problem with dollar profits is that comparisons across companies, industries or sectors are skewed by scale differences, and one simple scalar for earnings is revenues, yielding variants of profit margins.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;While you are undoubtedly familiar with these margin variants, their real use in analysis is in providing insight into business models&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjsGZks6sPwOhrPwUj-UM7xmEY1BN0Kyv6G8jBxhaP9tPlkwA6WpzIdOKUunccdKoaX4gNYCwv4un9by_FFmKPzpMY6ZXTr5FSiNCksGnr9kWTWs5HndF1AjvkclOUU_rtu8T4a5BlKtt2gMBXYmZXdZA6M_ImFJsekUGcDxdpy6KsU-e3hJGHFrBtV0YE/s1452/ProfitMarginInfo.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1102&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1452&quot; height=&quot;304&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjsGZks6sPwOhrPwUj-UM7xmEY1BN0Kyv6G8jBxhaP9tPlkwA6WpzIdOKUunccdKoaX4gNYCwv4un9by_FFmKPzpMY6ZXTr5FSiNCksGnr9kWTWs5HndF1AjvkclOUU_rtu8T4a5BlKtt2gMBXYmZXdZA6M_ImFJsekUGcDxdpy6KsU-e3hJGHFrBtV0YE/w400-h304/ProfitMarginInfo.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I am not a believer in financial ratio analysis, but I do believe that the income statements for companies, especially examined over time, give us insight into their business models and can help frame valuation narratives. In the table below, I look at differences in margins across sectors in 2025, again looking across global firms, and just US firms:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj3cbHKwYA0bG6hlyALf69emzqsmfJHdcloIEYb6N3viP2O_dC3cTakH20waaR2ItpNRjW4w9sO5ls8KNY0c-v4c6-PuEXuHjHM5RzbKG8zUdTy_-PD2NKVC26qvjK5cLdZh3r4TQc33FIPc36AXq5ATi39P3ngGtrSF9C5T74yaAEjVBYdYCbaoNhyphenhyphenSTI/s2550/MarginsbySector.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1084&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2550&quot; height=&quot;170&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj3cbHKwYA0bG6hlyALf69emzqsmfJHdcloIEYb6N3viP2O_dC3cTakH20waaR2ItpNRjW4w9sO5ls8KNY0c-v4c6-PuEXuHjHM5RzbKG8zUdTy_-PD2NKVC26qvjK5cLdZh3r4TQc33FIPc36AXq5ATi39P3ngGtrSF9C5T74yaAEjVBYdYCbaoNhyphenhyphenSTI/w400-h170/MarginsbySector.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I have estimated margins, by sector, using the &lt;i&gt;aggregated dollar values &lt;/i&gt;for profits and revenues from the previous table, and also reported the &lt;i&gt;cross sectional distribution of company-level margins&lt;/i&gt;. Comparing the aggregated margin with the median margin across the sector &lt;i&gt;should give you a sense of how top-heavy the sector is in terms of profitability&lt;/i&gt;. In technology, which has the highest weighted operating margin (24.7%) of across sectors, the median operating margin is only 3.41% (-0.30%) across global (US) technology firms; the bigger tech companies are money machines in a sector that still contains a lot of younger and smaller money-losing firms. Note that the margins are not computed for financial service firms, since revenues are often unreported (and mostly meaningless) and gross and operating profits don&#39;t have the same measurement value as they do for non-financial service firms.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Industry Margins and the AI Threat&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Breaking down sectors into industries provides more granular detail, and there is a link at the bottom of this post that reports the margin statistics, by industry group. At the risk of stating the obvious, there are large disparities on margins across industries, reflecting differences in unit economics, economies of scale and leverage, as can be seen in this table that lists the industry groupings with the highest and lowest aggregated operating margins among US firms:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8kLuz7351EIVDtk_7dLnYoCz1q4Zj0Otkl692fntu-1Pg2F28ECvTGT8UvIgb9yRbQIyfhLeQC9c7EZx9FTo3UX7xE98Qb6CY-h6K-ofbqUUlG6ZLeikQbMiJqK59W-imwN9ksAPgrCHPlKIs3cziTvax-mRpcw_6oyIDFSSziGlBipggmPiPA7nAIf4/s1700/Highest&amp;amp;LowestMarginIndustries.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;942&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1700&quot; height=&quot;221&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8kLuz7351EIVDtk_7dLnYoCz1q4Zj0Otkl692fntu-1Pg2F28ECvTGT8UvIgb9yRbQIyfhLeQC9c7EZx9FTo3UX7xE98Qb6CY-h6K-ofbqUUlG6ZLeikQbMiJqK59W-imwN9ksAPgrCHPlKIs3cziTvax-mRpcw_6oyIDFSSziGlBipggmPiPA7nAIf4/w400-h221/Highest&amp;amp;LowestMarginIndustries.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;At one end of the spectrum, you have industry groups like basic chemicals, which has an aggregated (median) gross margin of 9.31%, making the margin hill much steeper to climb, since operating margins and net margins will be lower. At the other end of the spectrum, in addition to tobacco and railroads (surprised, right?), you have system and application software, delivering an aggregated gross margin of 71.72%, operating margin of 33.21% and net margins of 25.49%, capturing the strong unit economics that characterize the business.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While high margins are a desirable feature for a business,&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;these same high margins can make a business vulnerable to disruption, and the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/06/ai-anthropic-tools-saas-software-stocks-selloff.html&quot;&gt;AI sell off that we have seen play out in the last few months in software&lt;/a&gt; reflects the concerns that investors have of AI putting significant downward pressure on software margins. If your pushback is that the drop off in revenues and margins has not happened yet, and that it is unfair to software firms to mark their market pricing down preemptively, this is exactly what markets are supposed to do, and these software companies benefited earlier in their lives, when market prices were marked up well ahead of the run-up in margins. You live by the sword (expectations of growth and high margins), you die by it (expectations that growth rates will hit a cliff and margins will decline)!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Time Trends in Profits&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I have tracked profit margins for companies for a long time (about three decades) in my datasets, and there is clear evidences that they have trended upwards during the period&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. In the graph below, I look at the net profit margins for the S&amp;amp;P 500 in the aggregate in this century (from 2000-2025):&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEihd24gcOmsdJ-xcbs9rHqXntJVU6WBmCmK7tZhn-zlrWnU0qQkHG6NW8JePg-1lRd2W7dt3MohQOtrPsJ9qi66EQ37-ZKHC1vskngaxc5SuAapO8JQrHkpKe4xQtfovjshA4Vmk1f77RBykbt-5QQm92H7AKli4-stH7n7QT51e-P-QJm8ksFtuCL8r_g/s1198/EarningsHistoryChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;878&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1198&quot; height=&quot;294&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEihd24gcOmsdJ-xcbs9rHqXntJVU6WBmCmK7tZhn-zlrWnU0qQkHG6NW8JePg-1lRd2W7dt3MohQOtrPsJ9qi66EQ37-ZKHC1vskngaxc5SuAapO8JQrHkpKe4xQtfovjshA4Vmk1f77RBykbt-5QQm92H7AKli4-stH7n7QT51e-P-QJm8ksFtuCL8r_g/w400-h294/EarningsHistoryChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;As you can see, net profit margins have climbed over the last two decades for US companies, with a number of stories competing for why.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The most cynical explanation is that this increase in margins is &lt;i&gt;all sleight-of-hand&lt;/i&gt;, where accountants are pushing through changes, aided and abetted by accounting rule-writers, to make companies look more profitable. As someone who has taken issue with the gaming of earnings that you often see at companies, I am disinclined to take this criticism seriously, since many of the changes in accounting rules (such as the expensing of stock-based compensation and R&amp;amp;D) should push earnings down, and accountants have more power to move income across periods than they do to increase the level of income.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;A second explanation is that &lt;i&gt;the macroeconomic environment&lt;/i&gt; makes it easier for companies to deliver profits, and this explanation had resonance when interest rates were at historic lows in the last decade. As rates have risen back to more normal levels and the economy limps along, I am skeptical of the reasoning in this explanation.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;A third explanation, and this one has been eagerly adopted by many on the political left, is that that this reflects the &lt;i&gt;increase in bargaining power for capital&lt;/i&gt;, relative especially to labor, implying that the increase in profits are coming primarily at the expense of worker wages. While there are certainly pockets of the economy where this is true, the margins for most manufacturing and service businesses, which have the highest employee count and wage costs, have stagnated or decreased over the last 20 years, indicating that neither capital nor labor has benefited at least in these sectors.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The fourth, and in my view the most salient rationale for margin increases, is that the &lt;i&gt;composition of the market has changed&lt;/i&gt;, as technology companies supplant old-economy companies, bringing superior unit economics and economies of scale to play. Put simple, a market that gets the largest portion of its value from tech companies will deliver much higher margins that one that gets much of its value from manufacturing and service businesses.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Should we concerned that margins may compress in the future? Of course, and we always should, but that compression, if it happens, will depend almost entirely on how the economy performs and the effects of disruption, if it is coming, for tech companies.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Value Creation in Business&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If we define the threshold for business success as generating profits, we are setting the bar too low for a simple reason. Starting a business requires capital, and that capital can earn a return elsewhere on investment of equivalent risk. If those words sounds familiar, it is because I used &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;them in my last post&lt;/a&gt; on hurdle rates to describe the costs of equity and capital. Thus, value creation requires a business to generate a return on its equity (capital) that exceeds its cost of equity (capital). That is a simple proposition, and a powerful one, but the measurement challenge we face is in determining the returns that companies generate, and for better or worse, we are dependent on accounting measures of these returns. A good way to see what an accounting return is measuring or at least trying to measure is to look at returns on equity and invested capital in a financial balance sheet:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSh6KdomGrPzFlV7flHsCtRFSNidsDDWqLQTfWgvKFCcPqwYX_S8sH7p_Jxwy1ntxcQXiR1DGC5alSPl36yeW9-MzxmmNdFUHaFdFvTJuusQjCv8e6FES5xFb5ksxcSfjq-0GzayHl0ociRtfIRpamMd-2kkyHXu8jlf1sstMgkVIobizq_-Dw6tRg5iI/s1606/AccReturnsPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;690&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1606&quot; height=&quot;171&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSh6KdomGrPzFlV7flHsCtRFSNidsDDWqLQTfWgvKFCcPqwYX_S8sH7p_Jxwy1ntxcQXiR1DGC5alSPl36yeW9-MzxmmNdFUHaFdFvTJuusQjCv8e6FES5xFb5ksxcSfjq-0GzayHl0ociRtfIRpamMd-2kkyHXu8jlf1sstMgkVIobizq_-Dw6tRg5iI/w400-h171/AccReturnsPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While accounting returns are widely used in practice, as a gauge of investment quality, they can be skewed not just by accounting inconsistencies but efforts by accountants to do the &quot;right thing&quot; (like writing off bad investments. I have laid out my concerns in exhaustive and incredibly boring detail in &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1105499.&quot;&gt;this paper on accounting returns&lt;/a&gt;, which is dated, but still relevant. I summarize the factors that can cause accounting returns on equity and capital to deviate from reality in the picture below:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUD0KWtWMRtQeKuKeAxHCJ4As7_H0BIDgEbwnSXekynpcc3tBcqmzlxihjQw_NpKEERt3SP_RUeQjkmS1UKoKvEK6EV9XWbm6TB8l4DttgnzyR3xURGJCqR5EU4KeUhx-2_Yw6W5VCxTPapiOKJbp3hssbJaj2Nultz0-mkmJOE7kHwkmqIeazrnBJlek/s1420/ROICLimits.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;858&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1420&quot; height=&quot;241&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUD0KWtWMRtQeKuKeAxHCJ4As7_H0BIDgEbwnSXekynpcc3tBcqmzlxihjQw_NpKEERt3SP_RUeQjkmS1UKoKvEK6EV9XWbm6TB8l4DttgnzyR3xURGJCqR5EU4KeUhx-2_Yw6W5VCxTPapiOKJbp3hssbJaj2Nultz0-mkmJOE7kHwkmqIeazrnBJlek/w400-h241/ROICLimits.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; With those concerns about accounting returns in place,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I computed the accounting returns on equity and invested capital for all of the companies in my global sample (48.156 firms) and my US sample (5994 firms), and the following table reports the statistics for both groups, by sector:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh81H1kcjif9bA64ERtyzMgQvwMmXhK1ryuHUxdGaOYD2gM7veHbAWBRSYsawH1PcgguvLiiCMsEGSq6XLykuiKwGtIkXfQzHEt4pK1f_ZisogCWtbgR-tC01kMJnWKiW8SzhR6-W33Kr4R6OEtSwDmisC8jnxq92HMZQy_2APqXf4293M1uvJKfJm8-qY/s1988/AccReturnsTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1092&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1988&quot; height=&quot;220&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh81H1kcjif9bA64ERtyzMgQvwMmXhK1ryuHUxdGaOYD2gM7veHbAWBRSYsawH1PcgguvLiiCMsEGSq6XLykuiKwGtIkXfQzHEt4pK1f_ZisogCWtbgR-tC01kMJnWKiW8SzhR6-W33Kr4R6OEtSwDmisC8jnxq92HMZQy_2APqXf4293M1uvJKfJm8-qY/w400-h220/AccReturnsTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Again, I report the accounting returns computed based on aggregated values first, and then the distributional statistics (first quartile, median, third quartile) for the company-level accounting returns. As with profit margins, you can see that even in sectors where the aggregated accounting returns are high (such as technology and communication services), the median value reflects the reality that most companies in these sectors struggle to deliver double-digit returns.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Turning back to our value creation metric, where we compare accounting returns to costs of equity and capital, you have to be consistent, comparing equity returns to equity costs and capital returns to capital costs:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEisc_OLZw3l7W4vdwNugcR8HECrDZnWcurKKs9zJTLpU_N3H_rEWQVlSg1rEOGPlr_hoFq3W3l60hbmZ0970KdvLoZlaKKijFK4ss2TK9c5lJ7Hwt1IsYz-yKdHHxFv1E97rn1EMKaTRrQxfU_ET9GsES1FiagUjsJoTx9WqXISwthUo3sMb1Z37lQ_kDc/s1488/XRetPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;682&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1488&quot; height=&quot;184&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEisc_OLZw3l7W4vdwNugcR8HECrDZnWcurKKs9zJTLpU_N3H_rEWQVlSg1rEOGPlr_hoFq3W3l60hbmZ0970KdvLoZlaKKijFK4ss2TK9c5lJ7Hwt1IsYz-yKdHHxFv1E97rn1EMKaTRrQxfU_ET9GsES1FiagUjsJoTx9WqXISwthUo3sMb1Z37lQ_kDc/w400-h184/XRetPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;The excess return is a numeric, but as with all numbers in business, it is worth looking behind the number at its drivers, i.e., why do some business deliver returns that consistently outstrip their costs of equity and capital, whereas others struggle? The most powerful explainer of excess returns is not qualitative, since the capacity to generate excess returns comes from barriers to entry and competitive advantages. In the language of value investing, it is the width (strength of competitive advantages) and depth (sustainability of competitive advantage) of moats that determine whether a company can earn more than its cost of equity or capital:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjE6sR1THef7LVJ-0XhRPpwogOQIgJXUHAu0QAsIagPIOZMkD0943XezhsMoiYJjwW49tpXL7Bgb0zn8Zy_ItSTc-Rs_2aPKZyYfQ4VcnCf-AIEuGT700hQo6XYCoMTtN9-hMvPtIYyVCgnDIwwIjq8NutbxDF3h2xrz6NPwFDoR7-y3i8UR-rb-1Gei6M/s1110/Moatpicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;532&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1110&quot; height=&quot;191&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjE6sR1THef7LVJ-0XhRPpwogOQIgJXUHAu0QAsIagPIOZMkD0943XezhsMoiYJjwW49tpXL7Bgb0zn8Zy_ItSTc-Rs_2aPKZyYfQ4VcnCf-AIEuGT700hQo6XYCoMTtN9-hMvPtIYyVCgnDIwwIjq8NutbxDF3h2xrz6NPwFDoR7-y3i8UR-rb-1Gei6M/w400-h191/Moatpicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you are interested in this topic, and it is a fascinating one, Michael Mauboussin brings his erudition and knowledge into play in&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_measuringthemoat.pdf&quot;&gt;this Morgan Stanley thought piece from October 2024&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Since I have estimates of costs of equity and capital for each of my firms (see &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;my last data update&lt;/a&gt; for details), I compute excess returns, by sector, for my global and US samples:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizD6AXsZTwjCEFe8rFlK9lGtruwIw_lPx3rl7qSbHFB9bik9TKxPKfKlYIGx6aK3EGJD9dVotTBPmy5kcTHHy-LS9VLkoJ16JsH2fxRL9gEyZqhHifIBugFW3YqL694_7dqlOj-Teq1qVO6Xf2jNvF15iqIdm9tBLKlGC0E2a6k-D_TyK1Owo-QxbroJE/s2702/XRETTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1090&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2702&quot; height=&quot;161&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizD6AXsZTwjCEFe8rFlK9lGtruwIw_lPx3rl7qSbHFB9bik9TKxPKfKlYIGx6aK3EGJD9dVotTBPmy5kcTHHy-LS9VLkoJ16JsH2fxRL9gEyZqhHifIBugFW3YqL694_7dqlOj-Teq1qVO6Xf2jNvF15iqIdm9tBLKlGC0E2a6k-D_TyK1Owo-QxbroJE/w400-h161/XRETTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Given what you saw in the last table, with accounting returns, you should not be surprised to learn that only 29% (28%) of global firms earn returns on equity (capital) that exceed their costs of equity (capital). In fact, if you raise the threshold and look at companies that generate 5% or more as excess returns, the numbers drop off to 19% (17%) for equity (capital) excess returns. Most companies have trouble earning their costs of equity and capital, but if you look at the aggregated values, there are multiple sectors in the US (technology, consumer goods and communication services) that earn double digit excess returns, pointing again to larger companies within these sectors being able to set themselves apart from the rest.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If your concern is that the global statistics are being skewed by regional differences, I compute the excess return statistics broken down by region:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPZtrqqsnlIEhRF9klsBjXf7qKms10ZiLO5iFYJthcp1486BGZKhdtT3vwCcX3j-CnTNlryv5FM_V7zu06HBsgV1LQG_T5Bsm5kUATMETunXzb2x5kADsIqDIg6RjEqaNDCPfyzdOZ53YaMGS1uVrFYXi0bk_lNQKIbLA0j4r5RPnf4qGxRfxf7uQZjmk/s2706/RegionXRETTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;542&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2706&quot; height=&quot;80&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPZtrqqsnlIEhRF9klsBjXf7qKms10ZiLO5iFYJthcp1486BGZKhdtT3vwCcX3j-CnTNlryv5FM_V7zu06HBsgV1LQG_T5Bsm5kUATMETunXzb2x5kADsIqDIg6RjEqaNDCPfyzdOZ53YaMGS1uVrFYXi0bk_lNQKIbLA0j4r5RPnf4qGxRfxf7uQZjmk/w400-h80/RegionXRETTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, there is not a single geography where more than 50% of firms earn more than their required returns, with Japan ranking highest in percentages and Canada and Australia the lowest. Here again, the aggregated values tell a different story, with US companies collectively delivering excess returns of 8.44% on equity and 1.81% on capital, suggesting again that large US companies carry the weight of value creation in the market.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Given how much time we spend in finance examining investments and developing decision rules (NPV&amp;gt;0, IRR&amp;gt;Hurdle rate) that are supposed to protect businesses from taking &quot;bad&quot; investments, you may be surprised at the prevalence of value destroying investments. Some of the failure at businesses to deliver returns on capital that exceed the cost of capital may reflect imperfections in our accounting return measures, since it is based upon earnings in the most recent year, and that may bias us against young and growing companies building up to scale. In my book on corporate life cycle, I highlight how accounting returns shift as companies go from youth to decline:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhszBMbtCyAnYL5CNuqHppDLGNN6F1tFCab2BIxaENFxJyOyfRJh-OsD5SrguJwTyRWCR0uc_iyafZyfQFFZQN4SAuXQ7pFGn8I9slAsqPVP7G5dnZ-BXOTPqHrHqzIbeNau_5mNAoWWzAd7uJCYZfCqzj-q9d2sLoSL4lic5svZlt8EivBc00DWs7c5Q/s1588/LifecycleROIC.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1162&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1588&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhszBMbtCyAnYL5CNuqHppDLGNN6F1tFCab2BIxaENFxJyOyfRJh-OsD5SrguJwTyRWCR0uc_iyafZyfQFFZQN4SAuXQ7pFGn8I9slAsqPVP7G5dnZ-BXOTPqHrHqzIbeNau_5mNAoWWzAd7uJCYZfCqzj-q9d2sLoSL4lic5svZlt8EivBc00DWs7c5Q/w400-h293/LifecycleROIC.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;To see if this is a factor in our global findings on excess returns, I break companies down by age into deciles and compute excess returns across these groupings:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMes2aqr-hW0v9FuJ5N1lT9Q6yGeCRAoOhwRD67uyUAdr2eXlTNNaNAX3iPagnOZkKjahyphenhypheng-hUGhRgRISNPQOPNFrf-KyKGkzxZxTFee7oZGwMVkgyS77Q45uDdEJI5uqJzcZATmO3hF4-5ioVbBI3TS9q3bxQYI2SLm42jqMEf-Pvov6pRL3NLR7GxqY/s2698/AgeXRetTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;944&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2698&quot; height=&quot;140&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMes2aqr-hW0v9FuJ5N1lT9Q6yGeCRAoOhwRD67uyUAdr2eXlTNNaNAX3iPagnOZkKjahyphenhypheng-hUGhRgRISNPQOPNFrf-KyKGkzxZxTFee7oZGwMVkgyS77Q45uDdEJI5uqJzcZATmO3hF4-5ioVbBI3TS9q3bxQYI2SLm42jqMEf-Pvov6pRL3NLR7GxqY/w400-h140/AgeXRetTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;The table broadly reflects what you should expect to see, with a corporate life cycle, as the percent of companies that beat their cost of capital increase as companies age, but the aggregated excess returns peak in middle age (the middle of the life cycle), more pronounced with US than global firms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Profitability Wrap Up&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Looking at the data, and there is a danger here that I am overreaching, it seems to me that over the last four decades, &lt;i&gt;moats have crumbled,&lt;/i&gt; partly as a result of global competition and partly because of disruption (which upends businesses, turning good businesses to bad ones), and the &lt;i&gt;business landscape has tilted more decisively to larger firms, as more and more businesses become winner(s)-take-all&lt;/i&gt;.  It is in this context that I take a more jaundiced view of what AI will do for company profitability and value. I believe that, as a disruptor, it will cause downward pressure on margins at most firms, and increase the advantages that larger firms have in each business. How do I reconcile this view with the happy talk of AI as a tool that will make companies more productive, and that the resulting lower costs will make them more profitable? Unless the AI tools that you are talking about are exclusive to these companies, in the sense that competitors cannot buy the same or equivalent tools, these AI tools will lower costs across the board, and competition will then kick in on the pricing front, lowering profitability. If that sounds like a reach, I would recommend a revisit of the US retail sector over the last three decades, as online retail, initially viewed as a boon by brick-and-mortar retail firms, ended up destroying most of them and reducing the margins for retail collectively. As consumers, we will benefit, but as investors or employees in the disrupted companies, we will pay a price that outweigh the benefits, for a sizable number of us. I do think that the AI disruption will be more akin to a slow-motion car wreck, in terms of its effect on overall profitability, and that the margin slippage will occur over time, but it will damaging. Time will tell!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/wipmKevNjAk?si=j0TLs1n2NA-_-LbA&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Datasets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;Profit margins, by industry (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryMarginsUS.xlsx&quot;&gt;US &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryMarginsGlobal.xlsx&quot;&gt;Global&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Accounting returns and excess returns, by industry (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryReturnsUS.xlsx&quot;&gt;US&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryReturnsGlobal.xlsx&quot;&gt;Global&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Paper on Accounting Returns (Long and Boring)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1105499.&quot;&gt;Return on Capital, Return on Invested Capital and Return on Equity: Measurement and Implications&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Update Posts for 2026&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested and pass again!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 8 for 2026: Dividends and Buybacks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; 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&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In my first four posts, I looked at markets - equity, debt and collectibles - in the aggregate performed in 2025. In this post, I turn my attention to divergences in risk across companies, looking at alternative measures of risk, some based on prices and others at earnings, and how these differences play out in hurdle rates, a necessary ingredient for businesses trying to determine whether and how much to invest in individual projects and for investors making that same judgment, when looking at companies. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Risk: Definition and Measures&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For a concept tas central to investing and corporate finance as risk is, it is astonishing how much divergence there is across even finance experts and academics on what it is, and consequently on how to measure it. I have heard some describe risk as uncertainty, essentially substituting one fuzzy word for another, others as the threat of grevious loss and still and still others as the possibility of negative outcomes. If you have taken a finance class, and I confess to having a part in this, you may define risk as volatility or standard deviation, or even bring Greek alphabets into play. My favorite definition of risk and one that I start my corporate finance class with is that Chinese symbol for crisis or big risk (and I am sure that I have mangled the symbols, since I have been corrected a dozen times in the past):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgu6GggaBB8kljz1LQ8Xrrut9U5isyKBOQ60t2CEJsFaL0HYCPfd5qy7K6J67mm4y2TTjC6WdBv1dEquptpSxIVg0gSxQnVTQLNmtLO2h-v3zmirovmhJPvx2YYWJtPKhVHiDl2wfmgl4EIlgIrI_TKVbXQ-HTrgSOLtoGN0pzBXWcKaoCZxrt_UD8Vuow/s116/RiskChinese.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;53&quot; data-original-width=&quot;116&quot; height=&quot;55&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgu6GggaBB8kljz1LQ8Xrrut9U5isyKBOQ60t2CEJsFaL0HYCPfd5qy7K6J67mm4y2TTjC6WdBv1dEquptpSxIVg0gSxQnVTQLNmtLO2h-v3zmirovmhJPvx2YYWJtPKhVHiDl2wfmgl4EIlgIrI_TKVbXQ-HTrgSOLtoGN0pzBXWcKaoCZxrt_UD8Vuow/w120-h55/RiskChinese.jpg&quot; width=&quot;120&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As someone who can neither read nor speak Chinese, I am reliant on friends who know the language, and I have been told that the first of the two symbols is the one for danger and the second is a symbol for opportunity. In effect, by bunding together danger and opportunity, the risk measure captures how risk both attracts (to get to opportunity) and repels (with the threat of danger). That duality explains why an investment or business strategy generally cannot be built around the objective of just minimizing risk, since that effectively will remove access to opportunities or recklessly chasing after opportunities, ignoring dangers&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;With that definition of risk in place, I will start the discussion of risk measures by examining the choices that we face in making the measurement:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Upside versus Downsid&lt;/u&gt;e: If you start with a generic definition of risk as receiving an outcome that is different from what your expectation, it is worth recognizing that some of these outcomes will be positive (better than expected) and some will be negative (worse than expected), and that it is the latter than investors and businesses dislike. Thus, there are some who argue that risk measures should focus on just downside outcomes, not all unexpected outcome.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Price-based versus accounting-based&lt;/u&gt;: Risk measures that are based upon data can be built on market prices, for publicly traded firms, or on accounting data, especially earnings. Price-based measures have the advantage of constant updating, giving you more data, but are sometimes contaminated by the noise and volatility that come from trading. Accounting measures yield more stability, but since they are updated infrequently, and accounting smooths changes over time, they can offer stale or distorted values.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Total versus Non-diversifiable&lt;/u&gt;: The risk in an investment, whether a project or a business, can come from many different sources, but some of the risks are more investment-specific whereas others are market-wide:&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOHLDBSeZd-Praikco0lf6CCAo_E6tHc6z6j8cBWGQGosVB9h-hZtlWeyNtcwDRPMwxkfGH4IHJvvXO08qkv61Vr5t34U5DolsXFbeqGR3tPw9LA4BXyJL6Abz1KMfZlLN1wmbtK2BN5jEcrHEbuqB8VhfrZbY6GOQ46q5mQbZdECCu3pPd98TjjmtNLQ/s1484/RiskBreakdown.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;736&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1484&quot; height=&quot;199&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOHLDBSeZd-Praikco0lf6CCAo_E6tHc6z6j8cBWGQGosVB9h-hZtlWeyNtcwDRPMwxkfGH4IHJvvXO08qkv61Vr5t34U5DolsXFbeqGR3tPw9LA4BXyJL6Abz1KMfZlLN1wmbtK2BN5jEcrHEbuqB8VhfrZbY6GOQ46q5mQbZdECCu3pPd98TjjmtNLQ/w400-h199/RiskBreakdown.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;To the question of why we should care, the presence of many investments in a portfolio implies that risks that are investment-specific will average out, decreasing or even disappearing as portfolios get larger, whereas market risks remain intact. This insight, which earned Harry Markowitz a Nobel prize, gave birth to modern portfolio theory and is at the heart of most risk and return models in finance.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I have my preferences on how best to measure risk, I would like to keep an open mind and start by laying out the choices we face on risk-measures:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiJNpHBZN5EDHpNXhh9Yn4RgPmuxl_86-RjRWx9kWVJXTnnMOXmLcDpFzhLwTMkCNgD4xzq5hRjS5zaTZx0irpau8sPfFJkw2NStMsn0toblLTeicuR-qsW8UidJr3p_pV54zR-g7YCrs5QFDyT_K-VJUaYRuaXCeZoPAVZ2683BSqLTtaLWsau7kMX684/s1358/RiskMeasureModels.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;738&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1358&quot; height=&quot;217&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiJNpHBZN5EDHpNXhh9Yn4RgPmuxl_86-RjRWx9kWVJXTnnMOXmLcDpFzhLwTMkCNgD4xzq5hRjS5zaTZx0irpau8sPfFJkw2NStMsn0toblLTeicuR-qsW8UidJr3p_pV54zR-g7YCrs5QFDyT_K-VJUaYRuaXCeZoPAVZ2683BSqLTtaLWsau7kMX684/w400-h217/RiskMeasureModels.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, the risk measure you choose will be a function of whether you (as an investor or business) believe that the marginal investors, i.e., the investors who own the most shares in your business and trade those share, are diversified or not, and what you believe about financial markets and accounting data.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Risk across Companies in 2025&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; My sample includes 48,156 publicly traded firms and given that these companies trade across different geographies and are in different businesses, it should come as no surprise that there are wide variations in risk across these companies. In this section, I will start with accounting-based measures, with the caveat that accounting standards vary across the world, though IFRS and GAAP have created significant convergence.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Accounting Measures&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While there are a variety of accounting metrics that you can use to measure risk, the most logical one to focus on is earnings, but you have many choices. You could use net income or earnings per share, which will reflect not only the riskiness of the business operate in, but also the amount of debt you have chosen to take on, or you can used operating income, more reflective of just market risk. Within each of these metrics, you can measure risk as volatility (in earnings) or in more simplistic terms, on whether you have positive or negative income. For those investors and businesses to whom, it is debt that is the risk trigger, you can look at measures of that debt burden:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;style class=&quot;WebKit-mso-list-quirks-style&quot;&gt;
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The first is history, and I compute the standard deviations in operating and net income using ten years of earnings data, for each firm, a compromise between a number too high (where I lose too many firms in my sample) and too low (where I lack enough data). The second is that earnings standard deviations in earnings will reflect the level of earnings, with higher earnings companies having higher standard deviations. To control for this, I divide the standard deviation of earnings by the average earnings over the ten years, yielding coefficients of variation in earnings. The following table summarizes the distributional values for this metric, across sectors:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgat8wbGQlqvCRvjIrxynHh09WWGqXbF7MyBhso_CS5fKJiESTCsh0bZLvc9TROxnfnl-UyzIexqVZG5F1T2fLy2fgUbmDjYmopZTNFAAcLnpkAPhhXWQfOK0SLjQBInzkMXig0Jb3sF_0YWJxztoG6AK6-9xOhw4oShEuL_DN__WoTncv9CkBlIzvmf30/s759/SectorCVEarnings.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;209&quot; data-original-width=&quot;759&quot; height=&quot;110&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgat8wbGQlqvCRvjIrxynHh09WWGqXbF7MyBhso_CS5fKJiESTCsh0bZLvc9TROxnfnl-UyzIexqVZG5F1T2fLy2fgUbmDjYmopZTNFAAcLnpkAPhhXWQfOK0SLjQBInzkMXig0Jb3sF_0YWJxztoG6AK6-9xOhw4oShEuL_DN__WoTncv9CkBlIzvmf30/w400-h110/SectorCVEarnings.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It should come as no surprise that utilities have the least volatile operating earnings and have the lowest coefficient of variation on that metric, and that energy and technology haver the most volatile operating income. On a net income basis, financials and utilities have the lowest volatility in earnings, , and energy and communication services have the highest net income volatility.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;If you use the frequency of loss-making, as a risk proxy, the table below captures differences on that metric across sectors on this dimension:&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivQL-cKeL3MD-zPgGrlaDJQTcV3vZpPS0rqGkC3RxMXi6q37QZJw0XZUxK4uSFDrGZYgluYYquKf8SOa75SD7xS-iNc7tX3pOSF2U_sdMEwqgxjX_RGrfyLvTnj4T3Y0bEIDnRvCb3R__4zzFphNxFdRzIRzDrNs5zzFWTV-GDG4nbKnWOpdDZNWYxV6w/s670/SectorEarningsPositive.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;231&quot; data-original-width=&quot;670&quot; height=&quot;138&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivQL-cKeL3MD-zPgGrlaDJQTcV3vZpPS0rqGkC3RxMXi6q37QZJw0XZUxK4uSFDrGZYgluYYquKf8SOa75SD7xS-iNc7tX3pOSF2U_sdMEwqgxjX_RGrfyLvTnj4T3Y0bEIDnRvCb3R__4zzFphNxFdRzIRzDrNs5zzFWTV-GDG4nbKnWOpdDZNWYxV6w/w400-h138/SectorEarningsPositive.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Utilities are again the least risky sector, with a lower percentage of money losers than any other sector, and health care and technology firms have a higher percent of money losers than other sectors.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While there are some who use debt loads as proxies for company risk, and we will come back and look at differences across sectors and industries in a later post, it is a narrow measure, since a young, risky, high growth company with no debt would be classified as low-risk, if it is not debt-laden.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Price-based Measures&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; All of the stocks in our sample are publicly traded, and consequently, you can use market prices to measure risk. That said, liquidity is a wild card, high in some markets and low in others, and that can cause distortions in the comparison.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;            &lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u style=&quot;text-decoration: underline;&quot;&gt;1.    High and Low Prices&lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt;: &lt;/u&gt;One of the simplest measures of price volatility is the range of prices, with wider divergences between high and low prices at more risky companies and smaller ones at safer companies:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;HiLo Risk Measure = (High Price – Low Price)/ (High Price + Low Price)&lt;/div&gt;I computed this statistic for each company in my sample, and then the averages across companies in each industry, and it should be lower (higher) for safer (riskier) stocks. &amp;nbsp;Using my global data, this is what this statistic looks like, across sectors:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEje9gVx_jB6M68a79fHqEXJMLc7-gkPL84atBiiov1LrN0-eBg3F09o0TThAJFzdsIzKcCatoGFMirxaU7Zo4dkCIU7KJhcR8JefyTZ9ij4OWpdnLJIds3dppOvm7T_TQ3QdhpPiwKfe7t9GtJZ5wEmdhiP5Kd7MSNI0E5C_WhhLG5F_-Za_QtsOn33Tf4/s649/SectorHiLo.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;226&quot; data-original-width=&quot;649&quot; height=&quot;139&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEje9gVx_jB6M68a79fHqEXJMLc7-gkPL84atBiiov1LrN0-eBg3F09o0TThAJFzdsIzKcCatoGFMirxaU7Zo4dkCIU7KJhcR8JefyTZ9ij4OWpdnLJIds3dppOvm7T_TQ3QdhpPiwKfe7t9GtJZ5wEmdhiP5Kd7MSNI0E5C_WhhLG5F_-Za_QtsOn33Tf4/w400-h139/SectorHiLo.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;style class=&quot;WebKit-mso-list-quirks-style&quot;&gt;
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&lt;/style&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Utilities again come in as safest, using this risk metric, tied with real estate, and health care has the widest price ranges of the companies in my sample.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u style=&quot;text-decoration: underline;&quot;&gt;2. Standard deviation in price changes&lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt;: &lt;/u&gt;This is a standard statistical construct, and measures volatility in a stock, though it does not distinguish between upside and downside volatility. Based upon the company-specific standard deviations, again averaged out across sectors, here is what the numbers looked like in 2025:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhBmHz4ynRdvSf8t8KCLmm8yJ_TFuFkLYi1cOrMulaNdOhYyMh2ST_WZ2_ZUHtI7YCW1iQnTrtEnRUm43VUx8qyWR-EO3wsLrbztValsfNpHd2tY8ZTJqyASjaIBwws3TMCQAXTQ-f8agc05YbIJeEl8DkYMcT9KX6g4QoxyMso3BdzS-hgSaSkHQ_BnXE/s733/SectorStdDev.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;232&quot; data-original-width=&quot;733&quot; height=&quot;126&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhBmHz4ynRdvSf8t8KCLmm8yJ_TFuFkLYi1cOrMulaNdOhYyMh2ST_WZ2_ZUHtI7YCW1iQnTrtEnRUm43VUx8qyWR-EO3wsLrbztValsfNpHd2tY8ZTJqyASjaIBwws3TMCQAXTQ-f8agc05YbIJeEl8DkYMcT9KX6g4QoxyMso3BdzS-hgSaSkHQ_BnXE/w400-h126/SectorStdDev.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Financials and utilities are the two safest sectors, and technology and health care are the riskiest, if you measure risk with standard deviation.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u style=&quot;text-decoration: underline;&quot;&gt;3. Betas:&lt;/u&gt; If you buy into the notion that the investors setting prices are diversified, and thus care only about risk that cannot be diversified away, you will focus only on the portion of the standard deviation in a stock that comes from the market, and betas, notwithstanding the misinterpretations and misreading, are trying to measure that non-diversifiable portion of standard deviation and scale around one. 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Hurdle rates come into play for both businesses and investors, setting thresholds that they can use to determine whether to invest or not:&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEihplpbDLqmW0sT3-W45BB3F3Spst2lbPwaFHTU-3BYRIgOWkxqp9v3jDJwVuvP5yPCdKS1Jj0cno5lhHcaRlQHOLCduxhcXkBlVLpP6HP7xRezR6aJl9HTiHYOCYbZC6K0TL3A16i1UBT2qtzwILIuLkKchmqSeLO2Qcb8A-kutCm-FXl1vqU0s2izFA0/s551/HurdleRateDescription.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;148&quot; data-original-width=&quot;551&quot; height=&quot;108&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEihplpbDLqmW0sT3-W45BB3F3Spst2lbPwaFHTU-3BYRIgOWkxqp9v3jDJwVuvP5yPCdKS1Jj0cno5lhHcaRlQHOLCduxhcXkBlVLpP6HP7xRezR6aJl9HTiHYOCYbZC6K0TL3A16i1UBT2qtzwILIuLkKchmqSeLO2Qcb8A-kutCm-FXl1vqU0s2izFA0/w400-h108/HurdleRateDescription.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There are some investors and businesses who believe that hurdle rates come from their guts, numbers that reflect personal risk aversion and past experiences, but hurdle rates are opportunity costs, reflecting returns that investors (businesses) can earn in the market on investments of equivalent risk.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In the context of a business, which raises money from debt and equity, you can look at hurdle rates through the eyes of the capital providers – a cost of equity, capturing what equity investor believers expect to make on other equity investments of equivalent risk, and a cost of debt, looking at what lenders can earn on lending to others with similar default risk:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPFQ9iXyp1thrkxyH_soe7J1m444egxCDf66nwXX0JlMtLbiBiy1FXdEqnMNeXSjnR68Rz5sJL8sQJ77zzz75msPbnjDTFFidqgDyNa4v1yxnCJflU7j5fTQdjxjGD9ldpC5JqrtMXOEo3NJNYVR3xTBHopfSHgjTY6AfsWh7lM16fofgScV9oEEEgqQA/s755/CostofapitalOppCost.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;248&quot; data-original-width=&quot;755&quot; height=&quot;131&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPFQ9iXyp1thrkxyH_soe7J1m444egxCDf66nwXX0JlMtLbiBiy1FXdEqnMNeXSjnR68Rz5sJL8sQJ77zzz75msPbnjDTFFidqgDyNa4v1yxnCJflU7j5fTQdjxjGD9ldpC5JqrtMXOEo3NJNYVR3xTBHopfSHgjTY6AfsWh7lM16fofgScV9oEEEgqQA/w400-h131/CostofapitalOppCost.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;That is what all risk and return models try to do, albeit with different degrees of fidelity to the principle. In fact, my use of an implied equity risk premium in the estimation of the cost of equity is designed to advance this cause, since it is model-agnostic and reflects what investors are pricing stocks to earn, on an annual basis. Thus, when you use the beta in the capital asset pricing model to derive the cost of equity, you should be computing the return you can earn elsewhere in the market on other investments with the same beta, making the cost of equity the hurdle rate for equity investments in a project or company. The cost of capital, which incorporate the cost of borrowing into its construct, is also a hurdle rate, albeit to both debt and equity providers:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMEjfyEQODKenh1Hr2HJxzO6VDjpQGrwLOawZtGVhfLE0XEIiYaYSkmxfuNI00b5q45ANLF1PPpQlCXpoHWaQlWZ5MbzICB1X5OvNPQIxyObBU7fMwiXWaXNvL4LZwXPqpRG7ye6ExfJL0pYStX0xSRnm-TdKJEe2LtdoA3TcVaEzwGWMCWi9GEb3bIwk/s963/CostofCApitalComponents.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;707&quot; data-original-width=&quot;963&quot; height=&quot;294&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMEjfyEQODKenh1Hr2HJxzO6VDjpQGrwLOawZtGVhfLE0XEIiYaYSkmxfuNI00b5q45ANLF1PPpQlCXpoHWaQlWZ5MbzICB1X5OvNPQIxyObBU7fMwiXWaXNvL4LZwXPqpRG7ye6ExfJL0pYStX0xSRnm-TdKJEe2LtdoA3TcVaEzwGWMCWi9GEb3bIwk/w400-h294/CostofCApitalComponents.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As to the question of which of these hurdle rates you should use as a business, the answer lies in consistence. If you are looking at equity returns (return on equity or an internal rate of return based on equity cash flows alone), you should be measuring up against just the cost of equity. Alternatively, with returns on invested capital or an internal rate of return based upon cashflows to the business (pre-debt), it is the cost of capital that comes into play.&lt;/div&gt;I compute the costs of equity and capital for all 48,156 firms in my sample, and in doing so, and in the interests of consistency and ease, I make some simplifying assumptions:&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjTe08G-cBFtVnXmiFzKmqs4K7gJZABFDNo_dRZr1fMTyWUT5ofgV83GmpVXJ6vzwvjw4jdUt_UN1tEnN4hULrITDnvKXA940ahduQ95uxljvO7i7f2bMp-bvBF0833LvK84hfVhks4g3pkoTjjte68tWw62992W6_jDdQ5ao1Jl0e-v9qo2HWtUWJ1JY/s547/WACCEstimationChoices.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;483&quot; data-original-width=&quot;547&quot; height=&quot;354&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjTe08G-cBFtVnXmiFzKmqs4K7gJZABFDNo_dRZr1fMTyWUT5ofgV83GmpVXJ6vzwvjw4jdUt_UN1tEnN4hULrITDnvKXA940ahduQ95uxljvO7i7f2bMp-bvBF0833LvK84hfVhks4g3pkoTjjte68tWw62992W6_jDdQ5ao1Jl0e-v9qo2HWtUWJ1JY/w400-h354/WACCEstimationChoices.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Once I have the costs of equity and capital for each firm, I compute industry averages, both for global firms, and by region (US, Japan, Europe, Emerging Markets, with India and China as sub-categories). You can find the links to the data at the end of this post, but there is another perspective that you can bring to the cost of capital discussion, based upon where a company falls in the company life cycle:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTaMiyD_Hanq810YJg25i1UK38lJodn8rwcAkh8kvo2SyZy9Rz0OquRC4Vp2y1CYjMwSFDkucJgNBoS2wfV5CbqKzoFICcVP25LTRC3ODP2UQ8OopYqRhbv5Go5sNCW1AxwoOmpSfgK_D4anS9kIOD5eNU47Z7XcZycMKyTX_69eJe-F9fti76EZBmjMo/s654/LifeCycle&amp;amp;WACC.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;561&quot; data-original-width=&quot;654&quot; height=&quot;343&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTaMiyD_Hanq810YJg25i1UK38lJodn8rwcAkh8kvo2SyZy9Rz0OquRC4Vp2y1CYjMwSFDkucJgNBoS2wfV5CbqKzoFICcVP25LTRC3ODP2UQ8OopYqRhbv5Go5sNCW1AxwoOmpSfgK_D4anS9kIOD5eNU47Z7XcZycMKyTX_69eJe-F9fti76EZBmjMo/w400-h343/LifeCycle&amp;amp;WACC.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Intuitively, you would expect more uncertainty about business prospects with younger firms, than older ones, especially on the estimation front. That said, it is an open question of whether this uncertainty will translate into higher costs of equity and capital, since it depends on who the marginal investors in these firms are, and whether the risk is diversifiable (and not affect cost of equity) or non-diversifiable. To answer these questions, I classify firms into ten deciles, based on their corporate age, and compute costs of capital:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgzMFnTvaRmKpetyD-qP8-zb85qniIWuWRxqP_wmM69lsXrhfoQZozRb220nLSoqbJQh4Z7_RGUl3jnlhXtlcZrMxjMBwLr52SvbYbLRFlHwR0lPLr9h1-oXUNI5flAJlXjIbfdmMx6ZTAAsIh-r-0_3WJ-PgZRJ7Dp6dJRzvz462kRu5slYDWBms6YrsU/s986/WACCAge.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;200&quot; data-original-width=&quot;986&quot; height=&quot;81&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgzMFnTvaRmKpetyD-qP8-zb85qniIWuWRxqP_wmM69lsXrhfoQZozRb220nLSoqbJQh4Z7_RGUl3jnlhXtlcZrMxjMBwLr52SvbYbLRFlHwR0lPLr9h1-oXUNI5flAJlXjIbfdmMx6ZTAAsIh-r-0_3WJ-PgZRJ7Dp6dJRzvz462kRu5slYDWBms6YrsU/w400-h81/WACCAge.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you can see, there is no discernible pattern on costs of equity, as you go across the age classes. However, as firms age, they do borrow more, partly because their capacity to generate earnings increase, and that does have some impact on the cost of capital, especially with the oldest firms in the market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In corporate finance and valuation, an undervalued skill is having perspective, a sense of what comprises typical, and what is a high or a low value. It is for that reason that I also compute a histogram of costs of capital of all publicly traded firms at the start of 2026:&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcKib_FSLdl67dJW7XMbEZ0rEO2mWgfOGvge_ze9vlN-UW5mJVKF8-J26me5cwigjzQrP6aYA4jQ9BwoIk4iXlD6rX0LIRSTe3HeEjhPv1fx6g1p5Hl1oxXBx3iO3Og3mWmQEHiwYtSrBiUjRzyz2VsilFD-mnTcYYgH-O8tLFjBnC9hKW-YUmaG6pT70/s798/GlobalWACCChartStartof2026.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;798&quot; data-original-width=&quot;797&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcKib_FSLdl67dJW7XMbEZ0rEO2mWgfOGvge_ze9vlN-UW5mJVKF8-J26me5cwigjzQrP6aYA4jQ9BwoIk4iXlD6rX0LIRSTe3HeEjhPv1fx6g1p5Hl1oxXBx3iO3Og3mWmQEHiwYtSrBiUjRzyz2VsilFD-mnTcYYgH-O8tLFjBnC9hKW-YUmaG6pT70/w400-h400/GlobalWACCChartStartof2026.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;This table is one on my most-used, for many reasons. First, when doing my own valuations, especially for young firms or for firms where the cost of capital is in flux, it gives me the input to us. Thus, if I am valuing a small, AI firm that has just gone public and has global operations, in US dollars, I will start the valuation with a cost of capital of 11.66% and move that cost of capital over time towards 8.65%, as its gets larger and more established. Second, I do see (and must review or grade) other people’s valuations more than I do my own, and this table operates as a plausibility check; a valuation of a publicly traded US company that has a dollar cost of capital of 14% goes on my suspect list, since that is well above the 90th percentile for US firms. Third, the table operates as a reminder that any analysts where the bulk of the time is spent estimating and finessing the cost of capital is time ill-spent, since the 80% of all US (global) companies have costs of capital between 5.26% (6.28%) and 9.88% (11.66%).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For those working in different currencies, the inflation differential approach that I described and used in the last post can be used to convert the entire table. Thus, if  you use the expected inflation rates of 2.24% and 4.00% for the United States and India, from the IMF forecasts, you can 1.76% to each of the numbers to each dollar cost of capital that you see in the table or as an industry average.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To run a business or invest in one, you need hurdle rates, and that is what costs of equi6y and debt measure. While models and equations may be how you get these numbers, it is always worth going back to first principles, whenever you face questions on what to do. Thus, recognizing that the cost of capital is an opportunity cost, i.e., the rate of return you can earn elsewhere in the market, on investments of equivalent risk, should be a prompt to use betas that reflect the risk in investments, rather than the entities making the investment, and updated costs of borrowing for the cost of debt. As we enter 2026, we are now in our fourth year with US dollar riskfree rates around 4%, and companies and investors seem to have become acclimatized to the resulting costs of capital, and the shock of seeing dollar riskfree rates surge in 2022, pushing up costs of capital across the board seem to have faded.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/r06tnztEOys?si=xZGykocBl1EE6BYb&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Datasets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryRisk2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Earnings variability, by industry (Global in 2025)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryRisk2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Money making and losing percentages, by industry (Global in 2025)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryRisk2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Pricing risk measures, by industry (Global in 2025)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Betas by industry group (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/betas.xls&quot;&gt;US&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/betaGlobal.xls&quot;&gt;Global&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/betaJapan.xls&quot;&gt;Japan&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/betaEurope.xls&quot;&gt;Europe&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/betaemerg.xls&quot;&gt;Emerging Markets&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/betaIndia.xls&quot;&gt;India&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/betaChina.xls&quot;&gt;China&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Cost of capital by industry group (&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/wacc.xls&quot;&gt;US&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/waccGlobal.xls&quot;&gt;Global,&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/waccJapan.xls&quot;&gt;Japan&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/waccEurope.xls&quot;&gt;Europe&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/waccemerg.xls&quot;&gt;Emerging Markets&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/waccIndia.xls&quot;&gt;India&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/waccChina.xls&quot;&gt;China&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Update Posts for 2026&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested and pass again!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 8 for 2026: Dividends and Buybacks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/6565638444883471111/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/6565638444883471111' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6565638444883471111'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6565638444883471111'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html' title='Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgu6GggaBB8kljz1LQ8Xrrut9U5isyKBOQ60t2CEJsFaL0HYCPfd5qy7K6J67mm4y2TTjC6WdBv1dEquptpSxIVg0gSxQnVTQLNmtLO2h-v3zmirovmhJPvx2YYWJtPKhVHiDl2wfmgl4EIlgIrI_TKVbXQ-HTrgSOLtoGN0pzBXWcKaoCZxrt_UD8Vuow/s72-w120-h55-c/RiskChinese.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-7330047425833627200</id><published>2026-02-01T23:18:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2026-03-03T16:51:39.157-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Country Risk"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Currencies"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Data Updates"/><title type='text'>Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;If you have &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;read my first three data updates&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;in 2026, I won’t blame you if you skip this one, because you found them long and boring. I won&#39;t take issue with you either if you viewed them as too US-focused, because I did spend &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;my second data update&lt;/a&gt;, looking at US equities, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;my third&lt;/a&gt;, examining US treasuries and the US dollar. In this post, I widen my data analysis to look at the rest of the world, starting with a journey through global equity markets in 2025, moving on to creating a snapshot of country risk at the start of 2025 and finishing by looking at interest rate differences across currencies. Along the way, I will argue for a larger narrative, underlying this global perspective. I am not a political or a macroeconomic analyst, but I attribute much of what we have seen in terms of global politics and economics in the last four decades, first to the rise of globalization as an almost unstoppable force, shaping immigration and economic policies in much of the world, and then, in most recent years, to a &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/03/investing-politics-globalization.html&quot;&gt;backlash against the same forces&lt;/a&gt;. That backlash has not only upended the political order in the developed world, with both Europe and the United States seeing changes in power structure, but also brought nationalist parties to power in many emerging market countries. From investing and business perspectives, we saw the effects play out strongly in 2025, and I don&#39;t think that this genie is going back into the bottle.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Global Equties in 2025&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;-webkit-standard, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; In my second data update, I noted that US equities &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;had a good year in 2025&lt;/a&gt;, delivering a return of 17.72% for the year, but the US dollar weakened in 2025, down a bit more than 7% during the year. I started my exploration of global equities by looking at the &lt;b&gt;returns in local currency terms &lt;/b&gt;of equity indices in different parts of the world:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;-webkit-standard, serif&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEirbqcxp6MuONueSg6yNr7rT1EVoJ9Gv_ncz-neDatYjTAxPtbKuovPX0yJkPz_zQE1w5cFfYANXsil84hZPRk0Abuab7gAm1GjVG4vqeobEDR7GSRZza5kr2gstxA9JLUvxH1q0xtFkw4-w1rC_i-ga1Q0pCBsiWy6JRLP-mCdJlHj4fA-i0mrcJbHa8I/s4977/WorldMap.png&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2515&quot; data-original-width=&quot;4977&quot; height=&quot;203&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEirbqcxp6MuONueSg6yNr7rT1EVoJ9Gv_ncz-neDatYjTAxPtbKuovPX0yJkPz_zQE1w5cFfYANXsil84hZPRk0Abuab7gAm1GjVG4vqeobEDR7GSRZza5kr2gstxA9JLUvxH1q0xtFkw4-w1rC_i-ga1Q0pCBsiWy6JRLP-mCdJlHj4fA-i0mrcJbHa8I/w400-h203/WorldMap.png&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In each region, I have highlighted the best performing index (in green) and worst performing one (in red), and you can see the disparities in market performance, even within regions. One of the problems with comparing returns across currencies is that they are distorted by the effects of inflation that also vary widely across currencies. While I will look at inflation differences in more detail later in this post, one way to make the returns comparable is to recompute them in a common currency. To this end, I compute the dollar returns, in aggregate dollar market capitalization terms, in 2025:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiu8u2eKHSbIajz_oc3qQ6rQqRzHB4y38guFB9oKyyTd_NrdTihqq0MNZelTdKae0HHO0fb4sKQ2DHl-LFImW3i0sMYHiQMp0oYbaselXM-FgjKvm23uAhEqPnPYzOrPowQLCLdya1Mkg9tHj3wC7wQQAE2bvXdnsiz-D4wssIKlK-PFnscNgR3g7ZCag8/s2168/Region$Table.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;548&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2168&quot; height=&quot;101&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiu8u2eKHSbIajz_oc3qQ6rQqRzHB4y38guFB9oKyyTd_NrdTihqq0MNZelTdKae0HHO0fb4sKQ2DHl-LFImW3i0sMYHiQMp0oYbaselXM-FgjKvm23uAhEqPnPYzOrPowQLCLdya1Mkg9tHj3wC7wQQAE2bvXdnsiz-D4wssIKlK-PFnscNgR3g7ZCag8/w400-h101/Region$Table.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As I mentioned in my second data update, &lt;i&gt;India was the worst performing sub-region of the world, up only 3.31% in 2025&lt;/i&gt;, and those returns reflect not just a relatively below-average year in local currency terms, with the Sensex up 8.55% for the year, but a weaker currency, with the rupee depreciating against the dollar. It is only one year and while I will need read too much into it, my argument earlier last year that the India story has legs, but that the path to delivering it will be rockier than many of its advocates seem to thing. For much of the rest of the world, the dollar returns are higher than local currency returns, because of currency appreciation against the dollar.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Zeroing in on the aggregate market capitalization across the world at the start of 2026, I first created a pie chart (on the left) &amp;nbsp;breaking market capitalization by region, and as you can see, US equities, in spite of a weaker dollar, accounted for 47% of global market capitalization.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiYOVplqw3Y3aFBtTiK6A_ph-IJNc0UosRCqxqTACmvhZjGEh4wqaLSLUKqoly983b_HnA_m-e2CJRcC-hPTorAI-C1wQpJmG4Mib_i2v6dXUJAoNsk4KRJC284SY2QrrN2TqEb_8ENaC8RSutj06r3kDzPJl-plksT8235etSP5rpcU5Ekdco4nZpk3bE/s2102/MktCapPiecharts%20for%202025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1082&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2102&quot; height=&quot;206&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiYOVplqw3Y3aFBtTiK6A_ph-IJNc0UosRCqxqTACmvhZjGEh4wqaLSLUKqoly983b_HnA_m-e2CJRcC-hPTorAI-C1wQpJmG4Mib_i2v6dXUJAoNsk4KRJC284SY2QrrN2TqEb_8ENaC8RSutj06r3kDzPJl-plksT8235etSP5rpcU5Ekdco4nZpk3bE/w400-h206/MktCapPiecharts%20for%202025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Evaluating just the change in market capitalization during 2025, in the second pie (not he right), you can see the reason for the slippage in the US hare, with the US punching in below its weight (38% of the change) and Europe and China weighing in, with larger shares.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; To close this section, I will unwrite&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;an epitaph for international diversification that many US investors, wealth advisors and market experts were starting to etch in stone even a year ago. For much of the twenty first century, an investor invested entirely in US stocks would have outperformed one who followed the textbook advice to diversify globally. While that may look sound conclusive, the truth is that two decades is not a long time period in stock market history and that you can have extended market runs that look permanent, even when they are not. It is true that as multinationals displace domestic companies, the payoff to international diversification has become smaller over time; buying the S&amp;amp;P 500 would have bought your exposure to the global economy, since the companies in the index, while incorporated in the US, get almost 60% of their revenues in the rest of the world. However, the underperformance of the US, relative to the rest of the world, in 2025 should be a reminder that international diversification still belongs in the toolkit for a prudent investor. That lesson cuts across the globe, and suggests that much as politicians and countries may want to delink from each others, investors don&#39;t have that choice.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Country risk in 2025&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;-webkit-standard, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I&lt;/span&gt;f you have been a reader of my posts, I do have a bit of an obsession with country risk,, i.e., why the risk of investing and doing business varies across countries, and what causes that risk to change. My defense for that is that I teach corporate finance and valuation, and to do either, I need answers to these country risk questions, and while you may not like the short cuts and approximations I use along the way, I will take you along on my January 2026 journey:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The place to start any discussion of country risk is with an &lt;i&gt;examination of the factors that feed into that risk&lt;/i&gt;, and I will use a matrix that you may have seen in my prior posts on country risk:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;-webkit-standard, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3L163QYrPn1AUmgf4NGNmN71YcdFH55XXZLbQJs0W86ALDiRHO6m6e7ZdyvVTS5zisZQOZIfyjBbqhFYAgPYq0Pb_Lrw4PaM6b7LIX8hIhut-sW20YlfiRGxrlViIwOSY31fOW5r-RstmZVRD9e7kVU_TnvRy2eb8c8xDiCDgscKcY2gaY-rjFx2hHf0/s700/CountryRiskDrivers.jpeg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;498&quot; data-original-width=&quot;700&quot; height=&quot;285&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3L163QYrPn1AUmgf4NGNmN71YcdFH55XXZLbQJs0W86ALDiRHO6m6e7ZdyvVTS5zisZQOZIfyjBbqhFYAgPYq0Pb_Lrw4PaM6b7LIX8hIhut-sW20YlfiRGxrlViIwOSY31fOW5r-RstmZVRD9e7kVU_TnvRy2eb8c8xDiCDgscKcY2gaY-rjFx2hHf0/w400-h285/CountryRiskDrivers.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While I do take a deeper and more detailed look at these factors in a mid-year update that I do every year (links to paper and &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;my July 2025 blog post&lt;/a&gt;), the forces that cause differences in country risk span politics and economics, and include:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Political Structure&lt;/u&gt;: From an investing and business standpoint, the choice between democracy and autocracy is nuanced, with the former creating &lt;i&gt;more continuous uncertainty&lt;/i&gt;, as changes in government bring more policy change , and the latter creating more policy stability in the near term, albeit with a greater likelihood for wrenching and potentially catastrophic uncertainties over time.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;War and Violence&lt;/u&gt;: Investing and business become more hazardous, both physically and economically, if you invest in a more violent setting, and war, terrorism and access to weapons can create differences across countries.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Corruption&lt;/u&gt;: Corruption affects businesses directly, operating as &lt;i&gt;implicit taxes&lt;/i&gt; on businesses that are exposed to it, and indirectly, by &lt;i&gt;undercutting trust and the willingness to follow rules&lt;/i&gt;. While differences in corruption across countries are often attributed to cultural factors, a significant component of corruption comes from structures that are designed to encourage and reward it.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Legal and Property rights&lt;/u&gt;: Investors and businesses are dependent on contracts and legal agreements to operate, but protection for property rights. Legal systems that are capricious in how they enforce contractual and ownership rights, or delay judgments to make them effectively useless, create risks for businesses and investors.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There are many reasons to expect differences across countries, on these dimensions, there is a different perspective that can also help. As some of you may know, I look at businesses through the lens of a corporate life cycle, where as businesses age, their characteristics and challenges change as well. That life cycle structure can be used to explain differences across countries, where the age is less tied to how long a country has been in being and more to do with its economy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiPmxJwzBgUR2L8kfVCSMdQ4lHKShMXbwppKYZlOveL094VGG5ousTTBI51A0bEIJZLYIiD18FyOAbqYmadVt6ZoUFhaBYKVM9jN2Psa6t8s23KwJS8DIXos4RZWY-M9wyJHYjztvviFOMqedQHjtzYXPxNhddOW6S1TyEynAp3XnrDKVTiRuhYh6gUDqQ/s1492/CountryLifeCcyle.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1126&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1492&quot; height=&quot;303&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiPmxJwzBgUR2L8kfVCSMdQ4lHKShMXbwppKYZlOveL094VGG5ousTTBI51A0bEIJZLYIiD18FyOAbqYmadVt6ZoUFhaBYKVM9jN2Psa6t8s23KwJS8DIXos4RZWY-M9wyJHYjztvviFOMqedQHjtzYXPxNhddOW6S1TyEynAp3XnrDKVTiRuhYh6gUDqQ/w400-h303/CountryLifeCcyle.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Young economies have higher growth potential, but that higher economic growth comes with more risk (more volatile economies) and require more robust governance to deliver on their promise. As economies age, they face a period of lower growth, albeit with more economic stability, and governance matters less, effectively become mature (middle aged) economies. There is a final phase, where a country’s economy hits walls, and growth can stagnate or even become negative, driven partly by a loss of competitive edge and partly by aging populations. In each of these phases, countries often overreach, with young countries aspiring for the stability of middle age, while trying to grow at double-digit rates, and mature companies, seeking to rediscover high growth.  Without treading too much on political terrain, it may be worth thinking about the Trump actions in 2025 as driven, at least partially, by nostalgia for a different time, when the United States was the dominant economic power, with a combination of solid economic growth and stability that few economies, almost unmatched in history.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;With that philosophical discourse in country risk out of the way, let’s turn to the brass tacks of measuring country risk, starting with one of the most accessible and widely available one, which are ratings that agencies such as S&amp;amp;P, Moody’s and Fitch (among others) attach to sovereigns. The following is the heatmap of sovereign ratings (from Moody’s)  at the start of 2026:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;-webkit-standard, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimR_Mc0JAjO3qWcyb_XfWRinTWk-orQnKNG8QhmNM8wWKW7xm-bfmNC9C0gRORFltwu69ux_OFFSuloHWIlvv1F99Rw_XqnDvirDorE-JagZRA5vQx96BqiV6shjBZcG7h9Bg9Igb4HuFIOoPYjkYXPA8bc1pGOBloheYyn6VmMqDFgUm-PSIZnDl7A40/s2340/RatingsPicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2340&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2266&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimR_Mc0JAjO3qWcyb_XfWRinTWk-orQnKNG8QhmNM8wWKW7xm-bfmNC9C0gRORFltwu69ux_OFFSuloHWIlvv1F99Rw_XqnDvirDorE-JagZRA5vQx96BqiV6shjBZcG7h9Bg9Igb4HuFIOoPYjkYXPA8bc1pGOBloheYyn6VmMqDFgUm-PSIZnDl7A40/w388-h400/RatingsPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;388&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While Moody’s rates more than 140 countries, there remain a few (called &lt;i&gt;frontier markets&lt;/i&gt;) that have no ratings, but in terms of the color map, I have included those countries with the lowest rated, because they share many of the same risk characteristics. There are three key features of these ratings that are worth emphasizing:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;The sovereign ratings are &lt;i&gt;focused almost entirely on default risk&lt;/i&gt;, and while the chance that a country will default is correlated with the core risks (violence, political structure, legal system and corruption) that I mentioned up front, there are countries on this list where they diverge. I believe that this is especially the case in the Middle East, where there are countries, like Saudi Arabia, that have low or no default risk, but remain exposed to large political risks.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The sovereign ratings have their share of biases, for or against regions, but their bigger sin is that &lt;i&gt;they are slow to react.&lt;/i&gt; If you look at the list, you will see countries like Argentina and Venezuela that have seen significant changes in governance and politics in the last year, but where the ratings have not changed or barely changed. That will probably change in 2026, but this delayed response will mean that the sovereign ratings for some countries, at least, will not be good reflections of country risk, at the moment.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;There were a few ratings changes in 2025, mostly at the margin, but the one that got the most attention was &lt;i&gt;the ratings downgrade for the US&lt;/i&gt; that I &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/07/sovereign-ratings-downgrade-for-us-end.html&quot;&gt;highlighted at the time it happened&lt;/a&gt;. While markets, for the most part, took that ratings downgrade in stride, it did create waves in the process that I use to estimate riskfree rates and equity risk premiums, by country, as you will see later in this post.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The reason that so much of how we deal with country risk rests on sovereign ratings is not because ratings agencies have special insights, but because sovereign ratings, unlike other (often more comprehensive) measures of country risk, like country risk scores (from PRS or the Economist, to name two), can be converted into default spreads that conveniently feed into financial analysis. At the start of 2026, here are my estimates of default spreads for each sovereign rating:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjfQHbb8ojX8qN4dFpGFUAO94JLi-Yg7tfbrsJybMRg_wjcolkYSuhDIPjwmN1ui2xQFvaifEFx6YxqLNNC64tqaJeRWrZsCqgGjsS-u1NrsOpCNt_GOCy_oSG-wvN4x2HC5ftfLq9bS4YGCpmm5e5YrvvlVTQRaQF6teLF8_N8NLcSGr3bN4XEh788_A/s2942/Ratings&amp;amp;Spreads.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2128&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2942&quot; height=&quot;231&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjfQHbb8ojX8qN4dFpGFUAO94JLi-Yg7tfbrsJybMRg_wjcolkYSuhDIPjwmN1ui2xQFvaifEFx6YxqLNNC64tqaJeRWrZsCqgGjsS-u1NrsOpCNt_GOCy_oSG-wvN4x2HC5ftfLq9bS4YGCpmm5e5YrvvlVTQRaQF6teLF8_N8NLcSGr3bN4XEh788_A/s320/Ratings&amp;amp;Spreads.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As I noted earlier though, using sovereign ratings to get default spreads comes with the limitations that these ratings may not reflect current conditions, when change is rapid, and that is where the sovereign CDS market has created an alternative. For the 80 countries where sovereign CDS exist, you can get a market-determined number for the default spread, and here are the numbers at the start of 2026:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDJbk3y6YSlqOBhIrSJ_Vb8cRyR7ocQlFx-Eo0WwZD5JUfauCeq1Nd2A2DpO8j8C0e0Yx29buPYGjBzlRmTZmW6S2RtR-BKrh7OCYvuESAbY84eSswi6Bky9t3JAfkIFU3bYpyYBkN1qgZ6BVXVaPMCGeB6GoM2TFsNmNv94_72CVBz7Je7ucjSIXEQw4/s1262/SOvrCDSTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;654&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1262&quot; height=&quot;166&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDJbk3y6YSlqOBhIrSJ_Vb8cRyR7ocQlFx-Eo0WwZD5JUfauCeq1Nd2A2DpO8j8C0e0Yx29buPYGjBzlRmTZmW6S2RtR-BKrh7OCYvuESAbY84eSswi6Bky9t3JAfkIFU3bYpyYBkN1qgZ6BVXVaPMCGeB6GoM2TFsNmNv94_72CVBz7Je7ucjSIXEQw4/s320/SOvrCDSTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that these spreads, while noisy and reflective of market mood, reflect the world we live in, and both Argentina and Venezuela, which used to be uninsurable, have both seen improvement on these market-driven numbers, albeit from impossible to insure to really costly to insure.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As a final step in my country risk exploration, I repeat a process that I have used to estimate equity risk premiums, by country, every six months for close to three decades. That process starts with estimating an equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500, and then uses the country default spreads (based upon the ratings) to estimate equity risk premiums for countries:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhuyjR0TXaeTxeqK37AgAl6WuIYwOe7s2yXEVcCFYmu_wluDq0qTHM4Bx5NyeCBfDZ2De9u7KCWOplZjDwdBwyZVyK4cTciBWRE8yQ3wSuJk_1DrkRKrh0XkAjsQwPYDVKnahUQMTw7pFc6kaTNOXUxpeNjFt8l3kw4YbQsnf-AKN5m6s7lM2ON_Pr_rqc/s2195/CountryERPJan2026.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1450&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2195&quot; height=&quot;264&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhuyjR0TXaeTxeqK37AgAl6WuIYwOe7s2yXEVcCFYmu_wluDq0qTHM4Bx5NyeCBfDZ2De9u7KCWOplZjDwdBwyZVyK4cTciBWRE8yQ3wSuJk_1DrkRKrh0XkAjsQwPYDVKnahUQMTw7pFc6kaTNOXUxpeNjFt8l3kw4YbQsnf-AKN5m6s7lM2ON_Pr_rqc/w400-h264/CountryERPJan2026.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is undeniable that the ratings downgrade for the US has created some change in this process. Instead of using the S&amp;amp;P 500’s implied equity risk premium as my estimate of the mature market premium, which was my pathway until May 2025, I now remove the default spread (0.23%) for the US from that premium to get to a&lt;i&gt; mature market equity risk premium (4.23%&lt;/i&gt;). To get to country risk premiums for individual countries, I scale up the ratings-based default spreads for the relative riskiness of equities, and add these country risk premiums to the mature market premium:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_pAMmNPAqAIN8gaWCkpFYGf6G-AmbXOwh_BiWQsY7SNGC_JP4RQ82IdouBhb0rJO94NLgJgU3z-6cWdPZ1aNqFvRDLJMQvonmRNy7efFD503AKjyoLKCjkkJWsGu0tYksid0kDHZS40pZ8SeTmTsZTgd0d_M3w187uH1_VerV-5EnZehSnMKWziu0OW4/s6556/CountryERPHeatMap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;6556&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5052&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_pAMmNPAqAIN8gaWCkpFYGf6G-AmbXOwh_BiWQsY7SNGC_JP4RQ82IdouBhb0rJO94NLgJgU3z-6cWdPZ1aNqFvRDLJMQvonmRNy7efFD503AKjyoLKCjkkJWsGu0tYksid0kDHZS40pZ8SeTmTsZTgd0d_M3w187uH1_VerV-5EnZehSnMKWziu0OW4/w309-h400/CountryERPHeatMap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;309&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/ctryprem.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download equity risk premiums, by country&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that I bring the frontier countries into the mix, by using country risk scores for these countries to estimate country and equity risk premiums.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Currency Effect&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While it remains true that country risk and currency volatility/devaluation often go together, one of my concerns with mixing up the two up is that you end up double counting or miscounting risk. To understand the divide between country and currency risk, I start with a look at government bond rates in different currencies, with the caveat that there only about forty governments that issue bonds in their local currencies and that some or many of these government bonds are lightly traded, making their rates unreliable.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWN53hSTZPUOjYQCeklUP3TiIU9j5uZKZuIwIOyWqqeLBp1jtptFjLEwsLgShtIyrLf8IdjzKt90tG1J-ImMwPTw89obi2iaDHMvEE_8aqLDWTR3Fv0GouRFyEonAJxUSckjB4bOiFZWA-cQx5G45iFv2ifZ2MBCSqF-pvaNhHwIithPdoq6J9GPeskU8/s2880/Currency%20Rates.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2880&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1800&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWN53hSTZPUOjYQCeklUP3TiIU9j5uZKZuIwIOyWqqeLBp1jtptFjLEwsLgShtIyrLf8IdjzKt90tG1J-ImMwPTw89obi2iaDHMvEE_8aqLDWTR3Fv0GouRFyEonAJxUSckjB4bOiFZWA-cQx5G45iFv2ifZ2MBCSqF-pvaNhHwIithPdoq6J9GPeskU8/w250-h400/Currency%20Rates.jpg&quot; width=&quot;250&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In many finance classes and textbooks, you are often taught (as I was) to use the government bond rate as the riskfree rate, on the facile assumption that governments should not default on these bonds, since they can print more currency and cover their debt obligations. The problem with that logic is that it is at odds with the reality that governments can, and often do, default on local currency bonds, choosing that option over devaluation. That also means that the government bond rates can include a default risk component, and to get to a riskfree rate, &lt;i&gt;that default risk needs to be removed from the government bond rate&lt;/i&gt;. In the picture above, that is what I do, using the ratings-based default spread). After this clean-up, you can see that riskfree rates vary widely across currencies, from very low in some currencies (Swiss Franc, Japanese yen and the Thai Baht), slightly higher for others (US dollar, Euros) and very high on a few (Turkish Lira, Zambian kwacha).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt; my third data update&lt;/a&gt;, I estimated an intrinsic riskfree rate for the US dollar, by adding inflation and real GDP growth. Extending that lesson to other currencies, the primary reason for differences in these riskfree rates, across currencies, is expected inflation, with higher(lower) interest rates in higher (lower) inflation currencies. While inflation measures are imperfect and expected inflation estimates are often flawed, I use the IMF’s estimates of inflation to build a global inflation heat map:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiY8pJfdCDJKbDLUnKgGJ_UQ-CDTu6FDanMVzR8MzPozaychXt1TseAn5E1lrX7AkQjaNBGeRs6hqWs8iAg-LKydYVSssOMxXg8C9EsjgTrTPqHXyp8Sw2Dx-wVYO1L9D_wiCYCNt9WSc0I78ZjwHX4plzMB7nIcl2Sc5sP_uuwt2fmAohHhgVUGfzb5Dc/s5146/InflationHeatMap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;4734&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5146&quot; height=&quot;368&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiY8pJfdCDJKbDLUnKgGJ_UQ-CDTu6FDanMVzR8MzPozaychXt1TseAn5E1lrX7AkQjaNBGeRs6hqWs8iAg-LKydYVSssOMxXg8C9EsjgTrTPqHXyp8Sw2Dx-wVYO1L9D_wiCYCNt9WSc0I78ZjwHX4plzMB7nIcl2Sc5sP_uuwt2fmAohHhgVUGfzb5Dc/w400-h368/InflationHeatMap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The logic that I used to argue that it is unlikely that you will see US treasury bond rates drop much below 4%, at least as long as inflation runs hot (2.5-3%), not only applies for other currencies, but yields a roadmap for estimating riskfree rates in those currencies (including those without a government bond in the local currency). To illustrate, I will try to estimate an Egyptian pound riskfree rate at the start of 2026:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Riskfree rate in local currency = Riskfree rate in US dollars + (Expected inflation rate in local currency – Expected inflation in US $)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Thus, the riskfree rate in Egyptian pounds, using the expected inflation rates of 7.78% for Egypt and 2.24% for the United States is 9.49%:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; Riskfree rate in US dollars = US T.Bond rate - US default spread = 4.18% -0.23% = 3.95%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Riskfree rate in EGP (1/1/26) = Riskfree rate in US $ + (Expected inflation in Egypt – Expected inflation in US) = 3.95% + (7.78% - 2.24%) = 9.49%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that the riskfree rate in US $ is 3.95%, obtained by cleansing the US 10-year treasury rate on January 1, 2026 (4.18%) of US default risk (0.23%).  The estimate for a riskfree rate is an approximation is an approximation, since inflation rates compound, and that compounded version is below:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Riskfree rate in EGP = (1+ US $ Riskfree Rate) × (1 + Expected inflation rate in EGP)/ (1+ Expected inflation rate in US $) -1 = 1.0395 × (1.0778/ 1.0224) -1 = .0958 or 9.58%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I have used IMF inflation rates to get riskfree rates in almost all global currencies in this link, but I don’t blame you, if you are skeptical about the expected inflation numbers. From a financial analysis and valuation perspective, I have good news and it is that it does not matter if you are wrong on inflation, if you are consistently so (in both your earnings and cash flows as well as your discount rates).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEit2wW_AB1eqJbjpeBftcUJT6onAdrfHWV8c5AN8CtHhjwjkPNTuaAKMObIQng4qomv15QCIs0vnCILVlmtIgRxt6UmehjNxdR-4xu9hijs_Oaa8501yOAla4nlmeUEph8cyj4Ynj7XY49LAjrIia64b-kAtHlf8EPl2KYdUT_RgvjVut1vWFCFDTVYbWg/s918/ValueInflationEffect.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;493&quot; data-original-width=&quot;918&quot; height=&quot;215&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEit2wW_AB1eqJbjpeBftcUJT6onAdrfHWV8c5AN8CtHhjwjkPNTuaAKMObIQng4qomv15QCIs0vnCILVlmtIgRxt6UmehjNxdR-4xu9hijs_Oaa8501yOAla4nlmeUEph8cyj4Ynj7XY49LAjrIia64b-kAtHlf8EPl2KYdUT_RgvjVut1vWFCFDTVYbWg/w400-h215/ValueInflationEffect.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Put simply, the effects of expected inflation in valuation cancel out, and that is that the basis of what I would term “the currency invariance theorem”, where the value of a project or company should not change, if you change the currency in which you do your analysis. A project that has a positive NPV, when the analysis is done in US $, should continue to have the same positive NPV, if you redo the analysis in EGP, and a company that is overvalued, when the valuation is in US $, will remain overvalued, if you revalue it in EGP. The currency you chose to do an analysis is cannot alter the underlying value but that does not mean that changes in inflation cannot change the values of businesses, since that effect will depend on how well a company can pass inflation through to its customers (with pricing power), and I examined that relationship in 2022, after inflation had a resurgence in the United States after a decade of being low and boring.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrMBaotQt5BWWlLPgDuv9uVxXy4qNLX_D63nLyDjHOGD3NSUij_wqCcOrRle7NFek4IgjXodGz3SPHwlIO83VJmFuqjSwY5TiMeLzU6nAscLkn2fYd9vJM-gRwj4vmzfFktPuWPun1nhBgEUakOFZItKGalxI8oKuvOyHsLwOHReSEv6NPuv7p9rTHAKo/s738/inflation%20and%20value.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;567&quot; data-original-width=&quot;738&quot; height=&quot;308&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrMBaotQt5BWWlLPgDuv9uVxXy4qNLX_D63nLyDjHOGD3NSUij_wqCcOrRle7NFek4IgjXodGz3SPHwlIO83VJmFuqjSwY5TiMeLzU6nAscLkn2fYd9vJM-gRwj4vmzfFktPuWPun1nhBgEUakOFZItKGalxI8oKuvOyHsLwOHReSEv6NPuv7p9rTHAKo/w400-h308/inflation%20and%20value.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Thus, high inflation in Turkish lira has undoubtedly wreaked havoc the value of some Turkish companies, but given that damage, my point is that revaluing these companies in Euros will not undo that damage.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&lt;span face=&quot;-webkit-standard, serif&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Bottom Line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: medium;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;  As globalization gets a blowback, and in the midst of turmoil from tariffs, we got a reminder of how, much as we may want to go back to simpler times where the rest of the world did not intrude into our  lives, we are all connected in good and bad ways. Thus, you may disagree with me on how to measure country risk and to bring into your analysis and investments, but it is undeniable that risk varies across countries and that we must incorporate that risk into our decision making. I hope that this post expose  the layers in the process from the drivers of country risk to how these drivers play out as differences in country ratings, default spreads and equity risk premiums, while illustrating th how country risk can change over time, and sometimes in short periods.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/6JLvhmGzeuQ?si=CkRc8hyk9via9rR8&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Datasets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/ctryprem.xlsx&quot;&gt;Equity risk premiums by country at the start of 2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/DiffInflRiskfree2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Differential-inflation riskfree rates, by currency, at the start of 2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Update Posts for 2026&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested and pass again!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 8 for 2026: Dividends and Buybacks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/7330047425833627200/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/7330047425833627200' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7330047425833627200'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7330047425833627200'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html' title='Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEirbqcxp6MuONueSg6yNr7rT1EVoJ9Gv_ncz-neDatYjTAxPtbKuovPX0yJkPz_zQE1w5cFfYANXsil84hZPRk0Abuab7gAm1GjVG4vqeobEDR7GSRZza5kr2gstxA9JLUvxH1q0xtFkw4-w1rC_i-ga1Q0pCBsiWy6JRLP-mCdJlHj4fA-i0mrcJbHa8I/s72-w400-h203-c/WorldMap.png" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1469199432501818558</id><published>2026-01-28T11:45:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2026-03-03T16:51:52.059-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bitcoin"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bonds"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Data Updates"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Gold"/><title type='text'>Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;my last post&lt;/a&gt;, I talked about the disconnect between the bad news stories that we were reading and the solid performance of US&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;equities during 2025. In this one, I want to focus specifically on four news stories from last year - the US announcement of punitive tariffs on the rest of the world, the downgrade of the US, the longest shutdown in US government history and unprecedented challenges to the Fed&#39;s perceived independence - and examine how they played out in the rest of the market. I will start with a look at US treasuries, which should have been in the eye of the storm in all of the stories, move on to to currencies, with a focus on the US dollar, then to gold &amp;amp; silver, and close off with a riff on bitcoin. As I look at these diverse markets, with very different outcomes in 2025, I will argue that a loss of trust in institutions (governments, central banks, regulatory authorities) was the thread that best explains their performance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Trust Narrative&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;We often underestimate how much of the global economy and financial markets are built on trust - in central banks to preserve the buying power in currencies, in governments and businesses to honor their contractual commitments, in legal systems to enforce them and in norms restraining behavior. That trust can be tenuous, and when violated, not only can the consequences can be catastrophic, but regaining lost trust can be a long, arduous process. In fact, one of the divides between developed and emerging markets for much of the last century was on the trust dimension, with the implicit assumption that emerging countries were less trustworthy than developed countries. That distinction has been muddied in the twenty first century, as crises and political developments have undercut trust in institutions across the board.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I would argue that 2025 was a particularly testing year, as developments in the United States, a dominant player in the global economy and markets, shook trust, and that loss of trust reverberated across its trading partners and global investors.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The first of the developments was on the&lt;b&gt; tariff front&lt;/b&gt;, where decades of progress towards reducing barriers to trade and establishing predictability was upended on &lt;a href=&quot;https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/31/business/liberation-day-announcement-trump&quot;&gt;Liberation day&lt;/a&gt; (on March 31, 2025), where the US imposed what seemed like arbitrary tariffs on countries, but made those tariffs punitively large. In the immediate aftermath, equity markets around the world went into free fall, and I &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/04/anatomy-of-market-crisis-tariffs-rock.html&quot;&gt;wrote a post in April 2025 about the tariff effect&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Just two weeks later, on April 16, 2025, Moody&#39;s, which had been the lone holdout among the ratings agencies in preserving a Aaa rating for the US,&lt;b&gt; lowered its rating,&lt;/b&gt; albeit marginally to Aa1, reducing the number of Aaa rated countries in the world to eight. That rating, though not a complete surprise, still had shock value, and created ripple effects for appraisers and analysts, and I made my &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/07/sovereign-ratings-downgrade-for-us-end.html&quot;&gt;assessment in a post in May 2025&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;On October 1, 2025, the &lt;b&gt;US government went into shutdown mode&lt;/b&gt;, as congress balked at increasing the debt limit for the country and on the terms for a new budget, and unlike previous shutdowns, which lasted a few days, this one stretched into weeks, before an agreement was reached to reopen the government on November 12, 2025.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In the final months of the year, the &lt;b&gt;independence of the Federal Reserve&lt;/b&gt; became a subject of discussion as news stories and pronouncements on social media suggested that the administration was seeking to put its imprint on monetary policy, through its nominees.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Depending on your political persuasion, you may have been one side of the debate or the other about each of these developments, but each of them chipped away at trust in the US government and its institutions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While Donald Trump is the easy answer to why trust is slipping, the truth is that in each case, the slippage has been occurring over much longer. The push towards&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;uninhibited global trade started running out of steam a decade or more ago, as the costs created political backlash. The Moody&#39;s ratings downgrade followed similar actions by S&amp;amp;P, in 2011, and Fitch, in 2023, partly in reaction to government deficit/borrowing and partly to political dysfunction. The Fed&#39;s much-vaunted independence has always been built more on norms rather that legal strictures, and administrations through the decades have managed to nudge central banks to adopt their preferred paths, and especially so in the aftermath of the pandemic.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Bond Market&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The effect of a loss of trust should be visible most clearly and immediately in the bond market, since bond buyers, of US treasuries, are doing so on the expectation that the US government will not default and that the Fed will do its utmost to preserve the dollar&#39;s buying power (and keep inflation low). Since the shocks from the news stories listed in the section above have the potential to alter both default risk and expected inflation, I looked at the movement of US treasuries over the course of 2025:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhadEbiSAp6eh2urHMj9b6pOCxhECLPL5ZJ5FDlSGGgsf6vTC5nlRd1DNB3r6z4KXq7x_xNIypB-qYSsjHupn0-RzbwNoVeCbB7I0rsmSKRlB15QB6Qggey1xp5dDfvimC3eHA33rTVBPs7SLuqFehjpiVOJmLb6t31Mz0xqcBvs5b3-7lTihcGiJZF0S8/s1232/USTreasuryChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1182&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1232&quot; height=&quot;384&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhadEbiSAp6eh2urHMj9b6pOCxhECLPL5ZJ5FDlSGGgsf6vTC5nlRd1DNB3r6z4KXq7x_xNIypB-qYSsjHupn0-RzbwNoVeCbB7I0rsmSKRlB15QB6Qggey1xp5dDfvimC3eHA33rTVBPs7SLuqFehjpiVOJmLb6t31Mz0xqcBvs5b3-7lTihcGiJZF0S8/w400-h384/USTreasuryChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/USTreasuries2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;US Treasury Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, there was little movement in 20-year and 30-year treasuries over the course of the year, but rates dropped, &amp;nbsp;and neither the Moody&#39;s downgrade nor the government shutdown had much effect, and the rise in rates around the downgrade (in April) were more in response to tariffs and preceded the downgrade announcement. In fact, in the face of all of the bad news, the ten-year treasury rate &lt;b&gt;dropped by 39 basis points&lt;/b&gt; (from 4.58% to 4.19%) during the year, and &amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;short term treasuries dropped even more&lt;/b&gt;, effectively altering the slope of the yield curve. To capture that effect, I looked at the evolution of the difference between rates across different maturities over the course of the year:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIKYpf93YjkrLLB64U9dSd17odTqdC0bopUayPDQ-sOJtuPxqW5pktsUVJ8njKOFgybI5ff_GoJ-uWUR63b-rwE4zkBlR2hxWOt8-KcfiuEeZEUamG5qWj0CkRjEpsXeL9y31mdkx6_Td8gmCNXxMM3bLxjs8dpi62Vko4cBAx1wu-bjdAGhOW6bWpbJ8/s1290/USTreasuryYieldCurve.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1284&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1290&quot; height=&quot;399&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIKYpf93YjkrLLB64U9dSd17odTqdC0bopUayPDQ-sOJtuPxqW5pktsUVJ8njKOFgybI5ff_GoJ-uWUR63b-rwE4zkBlR2hxWOt8-KcfiuEeZEUamG5qWj0CkRjEpsXeL9y31mdkx6_Td8gmCNXxMM3bLxjs8dpi62Vko4cBAx1wu-bjdAGhOW6bWpbJ8/w400-h399/USTreasuryYieldCurve.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/USTreasuries2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;US Treasury Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;During 2025, the spread between the 10-year and 30-year treasury doubled, the spread between the 10-year and 2-year increased by seven basis points, but at the short end of the maturity spectrum, the spread between the two year and three month treasuries decreased. The net effect was a much more upward sloping yield curve at the end of 2025 than at its start, and while I do not attribute the power to to the yield curve as a prognosticator of future economy growth that some do, it is still marginally a positive sign for the US economy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To gauge how the news stories played out on the perception of US government default, I looked at the sovereign CDS spreads for the US, market-set numbers capturing the cost of buying insurance against US government default, in 2025:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-GRyobWexkYZwrbA4b440hURjTw2BQL4cUJd11hEDY5JTP9vruU1a-A-pdHl2Wf12BUBoaIKPCdjgACjpkqWhvf_AKKjSXg7HTVvB_uIGJ69Jm1N3MEbcvIm206VYFZRZE6ZiqWf0AIYGsUG9VZdtgzKRfMUdp7TwZk3xHz_fZtDNj3bI1c0Usjwf-eg/s1234/SovrCDS.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;904&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1234&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-GRyobWexkYZwrbA4b440hURjTw2BQL4cUJd11hEDY5JTP9vruU1a-A-pdHl2Wf12BUBoaIKPCdjgACjpkqWhvf_AKKjSXg7HTVvB_uIGJ69Jm1N3MEbcvIm206VYFZRZE6ZiqWf0AIYGsUG9VZdtgzKRfMUdp7TwZk3xHz_fZtDNj3bI1c0Usjwf-eg/w400-h293/SovrCDS.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;After a blip in April, where the sovereign CDS spreads increased from 0.4% to just over 0.5% in April 2025, spreads have dropped back to levels lower than they were at the start of the year.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To get a sense of how expectation of inflation changed over the course of the year, I turned again to a market-based number from the treasury market, where the difference between the US ten-year treasury bond rate and the ten-year US treasury TIPs rate (a real rate) operates as a measure of expected&amp;nbsp;inflation:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3G2mGGrHGsgYt9FQSOglXsm7kCQfhhRB8TOkkKtBMH-rW_ZCfqI7szCxmg6c7kC5doW6UNIzfo0kB1dVjMwRsYc0Nf_esSA7n7Z6T4ZkCaQtGf-Vv30x7dNe9OBuYn-DKh8rvG3rLk__su8DH2qVnpBj45bfdLz6AebXihSfQIQNaGbnYmZs4jZpq7hc/s1162/USRealvsNominalChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1154&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1162&quot; height=&quot;398&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3G2mGGrHGsgYt9FQSOglXsm7kCQfhhRB8TOkkKtBMH-rW_ZCfqI7szCxmg6c7kC5doW6UNIzfo0kB1dVjMwRsYc0Nf_esSA7n7Z6T4ZkCaQtGf-Vv30x7dNe9OBuYn-DKh8rvG3rLk__su8DH2qVnpBj45bfdLz6AebXihSfQIQNaGbnYmZs4jZpq7hc/w400-h398/USRealvsNominalChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In 2025, these estimates suggest that the expected inflation barely budged, ending the year lower than it was at the start. That would have put the market at odds with experts, who forecasted a surge in inflation especially after the tariffs were announced, but would have put it in sync with actual inflation reported during the rest of the year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; On the final question of why the Fed independence fight has not created more turmoil in markets, I start with a different perspective from most, since I believe that the &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2024/09/fed-up-with-fed-talk-central-banks.html&quot;&gt;role of Fed in setting interest rates is vastly overstated&lt;/a&gt;. As I note in that post, the Fed&#39;s much publicized forays into changing the Fed Funds rate has some effect on the short term treasuries, but long term treasuries are driven less by the Fed’s actions (or inaction) and more by expected inflation and real growth. I capture that relationship every year by estimating an intrinsic ten-year riskfree rate, obtained by &lt;b&gt;summing together actual inflation for the year and real GDP growth&lt;/b&gt; and comparing it to the ten-year treasury bond rate:&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhN6XEyUBdhAaZR31BaKRy1sVhByUTa4sTj7BOUr4OTtb954Jk6SIJ5-KinhfK4dWmZlQRllHu_uEANKZF8WMOrxPEFWM5unRtOalPMKdSN779gtLoafmTwps9sFMsG5rBgF4sbZCWWZrsznt3oxBwsyM06xFysRFOHhzJ0QCR94LbYWoE3sLXB2ao3f5I/s1892/IntrinsicvsactualChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1692&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1892&quot; height=&quot;358&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhN6XEyUBdhAaZR31BaKRy1sVhByUTa4sTj7BOUr4OTtb954Jk6SIJ5-KinhfK4dWmZlQRllHu_uEANKZF8WMOrxPEFWM5unRtOalPMKdSN779gtLoafmTwps9sFMsG5rBgF4sbZCWWZrsznt3oxBwsyM06xFysRFOHhzJ0QCR94LbYWoE3sLXB2ao3f5I/w400-h358/IntrinsicvsactualChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IntrinsicRiskfree2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download intrinsic riskfree data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Over the seventy years of data in this graph, it is clear that the big movements in treasury rates are captured in the intrinsic risk free rate, with higher inflation in the 1970s coinciding with the rise in the treasury rate, and the sustained low rates of the last decade largely in sync with the low inflation and anemic growth during the period. As you can see , after a stint (2021-25) where the intrinsic risk free rate was well above the ten-year treasury rate, largely because of higher inflation, the treasury rate of 4.18%, at the start of 2026, is within reach of the intrinsic rate of 5.10%, obtained by adding inflation and real growth in 2025. That said, though, I do think that the reason that treasury rates stayed well below the intrinsic risk free rate during this period is because markets believed that the Fed would use its powers to try to get inflation under control, even at the expense of a slowing economy (or a recession). It is this belief that will be put at risk if the Fed becomes viewed as an extension of the government, increasing the risks of inflation spiraling out of control, creating a cycle where higher inflation causes higher interest rates, and attempts by central banks to lower these rates actually feed into even higher inflation. It is in the best interests of governments and politicians to let central banks be independent and set rates, because it will lead to better economic outcomes and lower interest rates, while giving politicians cover for unpleasant choices that have to be made to deliver these results.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I complete the assessment of the bond market in 2025 by looking at corporate bonds, and especially at the default spreads of corporate bonds in different ratings classes during the course of the year:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAzG9W5mB7ZrJ1IE6w3T2_IIuZNYfaKfWRkne9Kr7_A5r28YrN6HaPmpG4_9Rnj6JFTxFxODcyUUoPevSz58eTOQpALGb3N62NmNaL_ewBKRqh5hAFJxxipVbVybqiJXOJrpzULvkcNPv1jZ2iRxUqrwOfajy1g-U9N2JuCW6bVMQ-qLX-X5J1I1mOa2U/s1258/corpdefspreadchart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1076&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1258&quot; height=&quot;343&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAzG9W5mB7ZrJ1IE6w3T2_IIuZNYfaKfWRkne9Kr7_A5r28YrN6HaPmpG4_9Rnj6JFTxFxODcyUUoPevSz58eTOQpALGb3N62NmNaL_ewBKRqh5hAFJxxipVbVybqiJXOJrpzULvkcNPv1jZ2iRxUqrwOfajy1g-U9N2JuCW6bVMQ-qLX-X5J1I1mOa2U/w400-h343/corpdefspreadchart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There seems to be a divergence in how the year played out in the corporate bond market, with the higher rated bonds all seeing flat or lower spreads, but bonds below investment grade (below BBB) seeing an increase in spreads.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Currency Market&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;Just as bond markets are driven by trust that governments will not default, unless it has run out of options, and that central banks will protect a currency’s buying power, currency markets are swayed by the same concerns. Here, a split emerged between the bond and currency markets. While bond markets, for the most part, took the news stories of the year in stride, the dollar was clearly knocked off balance, and it weakened over the course of the year, as can be seen in the graph below;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGVTycK9KsLcJFbhKWxIX3MWV6OMvG-cAp8hhwQuUkRvj5hFa19wt5VxIEVMs2CmEH3Gjl5xfsiJ4U6iTl6FGRgbypWeTZZu1UBDDnxms4kU2wCEcaY0GwgNXWnC0VsHqki9UUFUReOg4RXxeSmZ_jRA9JnzqDTfg2a5BXHg2IT9cPF-k7Qg2qK3MlXFg/s1340/DollarChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;962&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1340&quot; height=&quot;288&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGVTycK9KsLcJFbhKWxIX3MWV6OMvG-cAp8hhwQuUkRvj5hFa19wt5VxIEVMs2CmEH3Gjl5xfsiJ4U6iTl6FGRgbypWeTZZu1UBDDnxms4kU2wCEcaY0GwgNXWnC0VsHqki9UUFUReOg4RXxeSmZ_jRA9JnzqDTfg2a5BXHg2IT9cPF-k7Qg2qK3MlXFg/w400-h288/DollarChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The trade-weighted dollar, a broad index of the dollar against multiple currencies, was down 7.24% for the year, but the dollar lost more value against developed market currencies than against emerging market currencies; it was down 8.19% against the former and 6.34% against the latter.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Gold and Silver&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;When investors lose trust in governments and central banks, it should come as not surprise that their money leaves financial asset markets and goes into collectibles, and in &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/11/a-golden-year-2025-golds-price-surge.html&quot;&gt;a post in October 2025&lt;/a&gt;, I looked at how this played out specifically in the gold market. &amp;nbsp;In 2025, Gold had one of its best years ever, rising 65% during the year, and silver, the other widely held precious metal, had an even bigger year, rising 148% during the year:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5gWg_n8WROs18ilZ67z-ytP5l_rYgeUe7eNaKQTE3bh8V3QhHdj9iytt73qhu81pYJjR-WrYFNMwb68rKiD7O-4CzW8lFl-0PHfUaJ5bkw9ppq_-JHsmfp857i7JQjnj-5WV4BmSwyplkePnotMjM53t_2QBmW7Ekrw7mwCQOJ4AjoAySraAQp5bMR1Q/s2044/GoldSilverChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1490&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2044&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5gWg_n8WROs18ilZ67z-ytP5l_rYgeUe7eNaKQTE3bh8V3QhHdj9iytt73qhu81pYJjR-WrYFNMwb68rKiD7O-4CzW8lFl-0PHfUaJ5bkw9ppq_-JHsmfp857i7JQjnj-5WV4BmSwyplkePnotMjM53t_2QBmW7Ekrw7mwCQOJ4AjoAySraAQp5bMR1Q/w400-h291/GoldSilverChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The surge in precious metal prices in 2025 was unusual, at least on one dimension. Gold and silver prices tend to rise during periods of unexpectedly high inflation (1970s) or during intense crises, but at least in 2025, neither seemed to be at play. As we noted earlier, inflation came in much tamer than expected, and equity and equity and bond markets, after a brief meltdown in April, showed no signs of trauma. In fact, if you scale gold price to the CPI, the basis for the golden rule, where the argument that gold rises at roughly the inflation rate over time, gold price performance in 2025 broke the indicator, as the ratio of gold price to the CPI exploded well above historic norms.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyasPgqOrcAkdDBHC_hQBe15ZgzspQB-sRQ8Eaa4sksx_X8hBz0KbMsDqKoZMF2y1tvWybeyF-v0cMEMg9fjZKzgXIN7DZgGjeoQ8B6E3ui7C6IokYxOMJBj3w5bqiT7ihhbfwRD5g6kxWEtrRDS4eBO9kQCKog5X_zKiJR_LEe7RMFU16kwPCc-CjQOg/s1926/GoldCPI.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1410&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1926&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyasPgqOrcAkdDBHC_hQBe15ZgzspQB-sRQ8Eaa4sksx_X8hBz0KbMsDqKoZMF2y1tvWybeyF-v0cMEMg9fjZKzgXIN7DZgGjeoQ8B6E3ui7C6IokYxOMJBj3w5bqiT7ihhbfwRD5g6kxWEtrRDS4eBO9kQCKog5X_zKiJR_LEe7RMFU16kwPCc-CjQOg/w400-h293/GoldCPI.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is worth noting that a loss of trust in the US government and, by extension, in the US dollar, have translated into increases in gold holdings at central banks, but that increase, while contributing to gold&#39;s allure, cannot explain its price rise during the year. &amp;nbsp;If the rise in gold prices was a surprise, the rise in silver prices was even more so, and in 2025, silver prices rose enough to bring the ratio of gold to silver prices to below the long term median value:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlAWaKi-r7jff3BCLaaPhrxllAzaaY2eXwyFJMKUNP6aOWhnfE1nTxnxjo6hMfxTSdR8eyuG2EZhlTf4fiKwNIQrOktJ-ij5rixvYHMB86bXTl-BPkJdM1482HhmxEr8noCbE8ug7Mi3CVhJzM7NHaFvB-sbkBdednlUwpapXom2f2WgNRLYnKMMWvCrc/s1928/GoldSilverRatioChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1396&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1928&quot; height=&quot;290&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlAWaKi-r7jff3BCLaaPhrxllAzaaY2eXwyFJMKUNP6aOWhnfE1nTxnxjo6hMfxTSdR8eyuG2EZhlTf4fiKwNIQrOktJ-ij5rixvYHMB86bXTl-BPkJdM1482HhmxEr8noCbE8ug7Mi3CVhJzM7NHaFvB-sbkBdednlUwpapXom2f2WgNRLYnKMMWvCrc/w400-h290/GoldSilverRatioChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It seems like the market is&lt;i&gt; pulling in different directions on the trust question&lt;/i&gt;, with stocks and bonds largely underplaying them, the currency markets indicating some worry and gold and silver suggesting much bigger consequence to the loss of trust. That does not surprise me since the market is not a monolith, and while the broad investor base might have adopted the response of &quot;What, me worry?&quot;, there is a significant segment of investors that see catastrophic risks emerging, and piling into precious metals.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bitcoin&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;I have written off and on about bitcoin over the last fifteen years, and have generally straddled the middle, with both sides of the divide (bitcoin optimists and bitcoin doomsayers) &amp;nbsp;taking issue with me. I have argued that bitcoin can be viewed either as a a central-bank free currency, designed by the paranoid for the paranoid, or millennial gold (a collectible), and that we would know better as we saw how it performed in response to macro developments. In many ways, 2025 provided us with a test, which should, if nothing else, advance our understanding of the endgame for bitcoin. In a year where the dollar was weakened as a global currency and central banking independence was questions, you would have expected to see bitcoin do well, both because of its status as a currency without a central bank and as a collectible. The actual price path for bitcoin, in US dollars and Euros, is captured below:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgnTTidc3vfY0Q27p1bdBrVwt-M52CZ4fr3CsEe9d75cQp2mI3eaj1qOvselhVPqtqMiWmm0EzJvNjqgYgfkPMFPDyMmrOoLR9d4wwQqgwLuJMJkidFUjLmsNqp9lXXjPXHrLSnp0lfaH45LvRBExJRWSBskW2wo61i-rFoclk7OfuBEDU1AMehwP6jh2k/s2100/BitcoingChart2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1494&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2100&quot; height=&quot;285&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgnTTidc3vfY0Q27p1bdBrVwt-M52CZ4fr3CsEe9d75cQp2mI3eaj1qOvselhVPqtqMiWmm0EzJvNjqgYgfkPMFPDyMmrOoLR9d4wwQqgwLuJMJkidFUjLmsNqp9lXXjPXHrLSnp0lfaH45LvRBExJRWSBskW2wo61i-rFoclk7OfuBEDU1AMehwP6jh2k/w400-h285/BitcoingChart2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;After setbacks in the first third of the year, bitcoin&#39;s price surged upwards in the middle of the year, making those who had built their narratives around it to look good. In &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/07/to-bitcoin-or-not-to-bitcoin-corporate.html&quot;&gt;my post on bitcoin on July&lt;/a&gt;, I focused on the suggestion that other companies should follow the Microstrategy path and put their cash balances into bitcoin, and argued that it was not a good idea. The months following have vindicated that view, as both bitcoin and Microstrategy have seen pricing collapses, and bitcoin ended the year down 6.4% in US dollar terms and 17.4% in Euro terms.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It remains too early in bitcoin&#39;s life to pass final judgment, but if the story for bitcoin is that it will draw in investors who have lost trust in governments and central banks, it is clear that gold and silver were the draws, at least in 2025, not bitcoin. As a final assessment of how the different asset classes moved in relation to each other, I looked at weekly returns in 2025 in six markets - bitcoin, gold, silver, large US stocks, small US stocks and the ten-year treasury bond - and computed correlations across the assets:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0Ob-oC0NcWpQDc6lA1l8yv6RMvG3ooAnGKXHf6kbFjyzjwPsoi1QOkF3vITIlHy9EZGYh1uRZTtOrNF_wa2HubXhjDjOGoA5U89i3IJjJ7rnZBc56pEw89p955Xq2tY60___jM0NcuMtRH8retOj17K7esj5TFwjg8sbLDI_zprgXJ_fqAgY4-gshLvE/s1194/AssetCorrelation.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;390&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1194&quot; height=&quot;131&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0Ob-oC0NcWpQDc6lA1l8yv6RMvG3ooAnGKXHf6kbFjyzjwPsoi1QOkF3vITIlHy9EZGYh1uRZTtOrNF_wa2HubXhjDjOGoA5U89i3IJjJ7rnZBc56pEw89p955Xq2tY60___jM0NcuMtRH8retOj17K7esj5TFwjg8sbLDI_zprgXJ_fqAgY4-gshLvE/w400-h131/AssetCorrelation.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There are only a few co-movements which are large enough to be statistically significant. The first is that bitcoin is much more highly correlated with US equities than it is with its collectible counterparts, suggesting that it draws in risk seekers, not the risk averse. The second is that notwithstanding the fact that US treasuries did very little over the course of the year, on a week-to-week basis, their movements affected stock prices. At least in 2025, higher interest rates (translating into negative bond returns) were accompanied by higher stock prices, casting doubt on the notion that the stock market is being held afloat by Fed activity or inactivity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The big news stories of the year, from the ratings downgrade to the government shutdown to the soap opera of who would lead the Fed all fed into a storyline of fraying trust in US institutions. While that &amp;nbsp;trust deficit should have led to rising interest rates and a tough year for bonds, actual bond market performance, like equities in the prior post, &amp;nbsp;suggested that markets were not swayed. That clearly does not mean that no one cared, since a subset of investors were concerned enough about the trust issue to push the dollar down and put gold and silver prices on stratospheric upward paths. Bitcoin remained the outlier, moving more with stocks and bonds, albeit without their upside (at least this year) and less with collectibles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/Jq55_yR_wJ4?si=QbqItPHli0dVnq_E&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/USTreasuries2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;US Treasury Rates by day in 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/OtherAssetClasses2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Other Assets (gold, silver, bitcoin), by day, in 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IntrinsicRiskfree2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Intrinsic Riskfree Rates and Treasury Rates from 1954 to 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/CorrelationData2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Weekly Returns on Asset classes in 2025 (for correlation)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Post links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/04/anatomy-of-market-crisis-tariffs-rock.html&quot;&gt;Anatomy of a Market Crisis: Tariffs, Markets and the Economy&lt;/a&gt; (April 2025)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/07/sovereign-ratings-downgrade-for-us-end.html&quot;&gt;A Sovereign Ratings Downgrade for the US (July 2025)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2024/09/fed-up-with-fed-talk-central-banks.html&quot;&gt;Fed up with Fed Talk? Fact-checking Central Banking Fairy Tales&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(October 2024)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/11/a-golden-year-2025-golds-price-surge.html&quot;&gt;A Golden Year: Gold Price Surge - The Signal in the Noise&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(October 2025)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/07/to-bitcoin-or-not-to-bitcoin-corporate.html&quot;&gt;To Bitcoin or not to Bitcoin (July 2025)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Update Posts for 2026&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested and pass again!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 8 for 2026: Dividends and Buybacks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1469199432501818558/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/1469199432501818558' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1469199432501818558'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1469199432501818558'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html' title='Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhadEbiSAp6eh2urHMj9b6pOCxhECLPL5ZJ5FDlSGGgsf6vTC5nlRd1DNB3r6z4KXq7x_xNIypB-qYSsjHupn0-RzbwNoVeCbB7I0rsmSKRlB15QB6Qggey1xp5dDfvimC3eHA33rTVBPs7SLuqFehjpiVOJmLb6t31Mz0xqcBvs5b3-7lTihcGiJZF0S8/s72-w400-h384-c/USTreasuryChart.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-117827854793734804</id><published>2026-01-23T11:26:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2026-03-03T16:52:05.317-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Data Update"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Equity Risk Premiums"/><title type='text'>Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested, and pass again!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It was a disquieting year , as political and economic news stories shook the foundations of the post-war economic order, built around global trade and the US dollar. In fact, if you had been read just the news all through the year, and were shielded from financial markets, and been asked what stocks did during the year, you would have guessed, based on the news, that they had a bad year. You would have been wrong, though, as equity markets proved resilient (yet again) and delivered another solid year of returns for investors. In this post, I will focus on US equities, starting with the indices, and then deconstructing the data to see the differences in the cross section. As has been my practice for the last few years, I will also use this post to update the equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500, my composite indicator for whether the market is richly priced or not, and estimate a value for the index, with a &quot;reasonable&quot; equity risk premium.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Back from the Brink: US Equities in 2025&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; At the start of 2025, the consensus view was that stocks were primed to do well, helped by what investors perceived would be a business-friendly administration and a Federal Reserve, ready to cut rates. In keeping with Robert Burn&#39;s phrase that the best-laid plans of mice and men go awry, the year did not measure up to those expectations at least in terms of policy and rate changes, but stocks still managed to find a way through. Let&#39;s start with a look at the S&amp;amp;P 500 and the NASDAQ, day-to-day through the year:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipPEI-T2qQKGFSBs9llxjzhEJVNTU3iKbDW5www2eNa3_J8OJ2YLUwRf8WdgSPTfvjapYhggi0SAzMzIVbrpbgAOTgAx8ktMKzB3_aN1_cHyOQpTQMpgFXAATjUOOIh3-2mz1ZOXLsghBSNso_juSa6joIiDLX9CIVr-F2e3qWphI_tMCKe3WprRbiU5s/s726/USIndices2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;522&quot; data-original-width=&quot;726&quot; height=&quot;288&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipPEI-T2qQKGFSBs9llxjzhEJVNTU3iKbDW5www2eNa3_J8OJ2YLUwRf8WdgSPTfvjapYhggi0SAzMzIVbrpbgAOTgAx8ktMKzB3_aN1_cHyOQpTQMpgFXAATjUOOIh3-2mz1ZOXLsghBSNso_juSa6joIiDLX9CIVr-F2e3qWphI_tMCKe3WprRbiU5s/w400-h288/USIndices2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The first few weeks of 2025 saw of continuation of the momentum built up after the 2024 elections and stock prices continued upwards, but February and March saw a drawdown in stock prices as talk of tariffs and trade wars heated up before culminating in a dramatic sell off in early April, after liberation day, when breadth and magnitude of the tariffs blindsided markets. The sell off was brutal and short, and stocks hit their low point for the year on April 11, 2025. Over the next few months, stocks mounted a comeback, before leveling off at the end of September and coasting for the rest of the year. Early in the year, the S&amp;amp;P 500 held its value better than the NASDAQ, generating talk of a long-awaited tech sell off, but as stocks recovered in the subsequent months, the NASDAQ ended up moving ahead the S&amp;amp;P 500. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Across the entire year, the S&amp;amp;P 500 rose from 5881.6 to 6845.5, delivering price appreciation of 16.39% for the year. The dividends on the companies in the index for the year, based upon dividends in the first three quarters of 2025 and estimates for dividends in the last quarter amounted added a yield of 1.34%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiS1rit-lebEhsowCsl2vS2JpXLXZv_hFxwjg6NMZqmHzE6VqYWwyKdRK4B95dd4gaYVi6yq6_S7NCtcTTZcihtwWbUnhrGxbR1sBNN6sLADiVPhlsAUzWqo7Yw2CWCiz6Es7yp9a-5SprgeQyMNamCRivFpzae3rBNK5_QFyFMs4OtAcWmwWGDAh0el2Y/s742/StockReturn2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;403&quot; data-original-width=&quot;742&quot; height=&quot;217&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiS1rit-lebEhsowCsl2vS2JpXLXZv_hFxwjg6NMZqmHzE6VqYWwyKdRK4B95dd4gaYVi6yq6_S7NCtcTTZcihtwWbUnhrGxbR1sBNN6sLADiVPhlsAUzWqo7Yw2CWCiz6Es7yp9a-5SprgeQyMNamCRivFpzae3rBNK5_QFyFMs4OtAcWmwWGDAh0el2Y/w400-h217/StockReturn2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The S&amp;amp;P 500&#39;s return in 2025 of 17.72% was a solid year, but to provide perspective on how it measures up to history, I looked at annual returns from US stocks from 1928 to 2025, and computed distributional statistics:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjXRVhBtvs68xuOZBU3GSqfBbcRAS0GXIPw_41Pz__qxPxvveDN580M17AYqo3hxfdUc4OxV8UMr9Ob9f53PxGhNMFigfn4QlGGoPIsuWfKgogFYWK9ftLc3A3znqCVbneBXIW2hWynyS4mzfJWpw1wK6UDc1zG08L1KlbqkgP7PBnuBMjPDUAW9-vQvE/s2136/USEquityReturnHistory.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1554&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2136&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjXRVhBtvs68xuOZBU3GSqfBbcRAS0GXIPw_41Pz__qxPxvveDN580M17AYqo3hxfdUc4OxV8UMr9Ob9f53PxGhNMFigfn4QlGGoPIsuWfKgogFYWK9ftLc3A3znqCVbneBXIW2hWynyS4mzfJWpw1wK6UDc1zG08L1KlbqkgP7PBnuBMjPDUAW9-vQvE/w400-h291/USEquityReturnHistory.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histretSP.xlsx&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Download data&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While 2025&#39;s annual returns put it in the right in the middle of the distribution, close to the median and ranked 45th of the 98 years of US equity returns from 1928-2026,&lt;b&gt; it represented a third consecutive year when the annual stock return exceeded the median returns&lt;/b&gt;, the longest streak since the mid 1990s; US equities between 2023 and 2025, a period where many market timers were suggesting not just caution but staying out the market, returned 85.32% to investors.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Deconstructing US Stock Price Performance&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;While stocks had a good year overall, the spoils were dividend unequally, as if often the case, across industries and sectors. To take a closer look at where the best and worst performance was in 2025, I started by looking at a breakdown by sector, where I computed the returns based on the change in aggregate market capitalization in 2025:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilonDKsF3h5VlggxzPONg9ICsACRL0g18_Bbr7OflkYdsjE-k1oDR6Pi8SGUJhLZuGoSaM3SKBmq_-2XLUiEwike71NR0GNM9cv4HCMXnY0dzQ3UVVjaOXXeiItNzkePRfId5aXz3FGnx6EgJyKkdkotDIVzsw9coOOU3w9hQNSKEV4TYoifro2kIDPks/s1350/Sectorfor2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;258&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1350&quot; height=&quot;88&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilonDKsF3h5VlggxzPONg9ICsACRL0g18_Bbr7OflkYdsjE-k1oDR6Pi8SGUJhLZuGoSaM3SKBmq_-2XLUiEwike71NR0GNM9cv4HCMXnY0dzQ3UVVjaOXXeiItNzkePRfId5aXz3FGnx6EgJyKkdkotDIVzsw9coOOU3w9hQNSKEV4TYoifro2kIDPks/w461-h88/Sectorfor2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;461&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I have tracked the performance of each sector, by quarter, and across the year a measured the returns. The best performing sector in percentage returns was communication services (which includes Alphabet and Meta), up 30.63% for the year, followed by technology, which continued it sustained run of success by delivering 23.65% as an annual return; on a dollar value basis, it was not close with technology companies posting an increase of $4.17 trillion in market cap during the year. The worst performing sectors were consumer staples and real estate where the returns were about 2% for the year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The problem with sector categorizations is the they are overly broad and include very diverse industry groupings, and to overcome that problem, I looked at returns by industry, with a breakdown into 95 industry groups. While you can find the full list at the end of this post, I ranked the industry returns in 2025, from best to worst, and extract the ten best and worst performing industry groups:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXVynQwcchgY7Es71odhrSriK6I2LkUDxXxMg4lwTBvhQUdpMe5rZLMKzx4rg6OwPw5Htjcw24K4Rkb0KmaBtxgfS3RdRp_QpwCkPJ1_yM8YYoSSyHv_YvjV0Pwe8Le-TK_NFGKzC-YTDeUZgDwzVPNTo5KEcIyB836mKy5SsLkfqEXjU-oyCRy0cOrLA/s936/best&amp;amp;worstindustries.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;494&quot; data-original-width=&quot;936&quot; height=&quot;211&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXVynQwcchgY7Es71odhrSriK6I2LkUDxXxMg4lwTBvhQUdpMe5rZLMKzx4rg6OwPw5Htjcw24K4Rkb0KmaBtxgfS3RdRp_QpwCkPJ1_yM8YYoSSyHv_YvjV0Pwe8Le-TK_NFGKzC-YTDeUZgDwzVPNTo5KEcIyB836mKy5SsLkfqEXjU-oyCRy0cOrLA/w400-h211/best&amp;amp;worstindustries.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryReturns2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download industry returns in 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The surge in gold and silver prices in 2025 carried precious metals companies to the top of the list, with a return of 169.2% for the year, and other energy and mining companies also made the best performer list, with a scattering of technology standouts. The worst performing businesses were primarily old economy, with chemicals, consumer product companies and food processing all struggling during the year.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; One of the major changes that we have seen in cross sectional differences in the twenty first century &amp;nbsp;has been the fading or even disappearance of two well documented phenomena from the twentieth century, the first being the &lt;b&gt;small cap premium&lt;/b&gt;, where small market cap companies delivered much higher risk-adjusted returns that&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;large market cap companies, and the &lt;b&gt;value premium&lt;/b&gt;, where low price to book stocks beat high price to book stocks in the return game. I focused in how these categorizations behaved in 2025, and we did see small cap stocks and low price to book stocks return, at least in part, to favor:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiPzr_1uffpkAKv85C2on_Rua41-eTS3m5rbyVSU5zl0GxN2UygzuQEYS2kFJ1VnomDpbKfX_LkFbeXlKVLV_1MN9Z_G8yESP0Ww5JJP3J4jry283ivM5OHKJWFdWDCAJyMxXF3V68mzOU7ZJpFMrSHzda8EOgLZwoelvQR-AUFdbTXNFsAROmxoF4rvxg/s764/ClaasReturns.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;141&quot; data-original-width=&quot;764&quot; height=&quot;74&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiPzr_1uffpkAKv85C2on_Rua41-eTS3m5rbyVSU5zl0GxN2UygzuQEYS2kFJ1VnomDpbKfX_LkFbeXlKVLV_1MN9Z_G8yESP0Ww5JJP3J4jry283ivM5OHKJWFdWDCAJyMxXF3V68mzOU7ZJpFMrSHzda8EOgLZwoelvQR-AUFdbTXNFsAROmxoF4rvxg/w400-h74/ClaasReturns.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you are small cap or a value investor, though, I would not be celebrating the return on these premia, but I do think that we will start to see a return to balance, where the groupings will trade off winning in some years for losing in others.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As a final assessment, I did look at the seven stocks that have not only carried the market for the last few years, &lt;b&gt;the Mag Seven&lt;/b&gt;, but have been the source of much hand wringing about how markets are becoming top-heavy and concentrated. I&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;started by looking at the individual companies, and how they performed in 2025:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZw55xrS5jswRin8euGWZ01IrNzuzwksjpTyaxV-ukZieRsm56DtvXBXmtfHPS6ixQH4JPgyOJOONeeU_ftLrzl-sG0UmeigoRr4LDmq8P3J-93N_Cilp8c8ZE8VD9JPaSwjpqLZQJw0il8kUbz6mKMdbUdB-K2OpdiLzVGQnR5ty4h_vwAFzGALJEOL4/s981/MagSevenbyCo.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;197&quot; data-original-width=&quot;981&quot; height=&quot;80&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZw55xrS5jswRin8euGWZ01IrNzuzwksjpTyaxV-ukZieRsm56DtvXBXmtfHPS6ixQH4JPgyOJOONeeU_ftLrzl-sG0UmeigoRr4LDmq8P3J-93N_Cilp8c8ZE8VD9JPaSwjpqLZQJw0il8kUbz6mKMdbUdB-K2OpdiLzVGQnR5ty4h_vwAFzGALJEOL4/w400-h80/MagSevenbyCo.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While the Mag Seven saw their collective market capitalization increase by 22.36%, Apple and Amazon lagged with single digit increases, and Nvidia (up 37.8%) and Alphabet (up 62.7%) for the year. Increasingly, the Mag Seven are diverging in their price paths, and that should be expected since they operate in very different businesses and have very different management running them. &amp;nbsp;To examine how much the Mag Seven have carried the market, I tracked the market cap of the Mag Seven against the rest of US equity (close to 6000 companies) from 2014 through the four quarters of 2025.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhHyz87_Ytdagrsr0jmlr1sBmVBf7RGsnNtiRBt4_NMbTxIy8lHo3KAgBbM-IrjeqoLWpIYTm_7ZPdLaEPACPT_R8IR0kqC7_AX8mq2pu4I67ePIDwo09vst4zd065_ElL-e_gMH7eBnwlWo2NG4RRjZYh_dgbMoCjQklHbLtZjBTVQyTSmhMDB3ZvwWOA/s861/MagSevenTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;280&quot; data-original-width=&quot;861&quot; height=&quot;130&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhHyz87_Ytdagrsr0jmlr1sBmVBf7RGsnNtiRBt4_NMbTxIy8lHo3KAgBbM-IrjeqoLWpIYTm_7ZPdLaEPACPT_R8IR0kqC7_AX8mq2pu4I67ePIDwo09vst4zd065_ElL-e_gMH7eBnwlWo2NG4RRjZYh_dgbMoCjQklHbLtZjBTVQyTSmhMDB3ZvwWOA/w400-h130/MagSevenTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The aggregate market cap of the Mag Seven has increased from 11% of the US equity market (composed of close to 6000 stocks) in 2014 to 30.89% of the market at the end of 2025, &lt;b&gt;with the $3.9 billion in market cap added in 2025 accounting for 39.3% of the overall increase in market capitalization of all US equities during the year.&lt;/b&gt; While this Mag Seven party will undoubtedly end at some point, it did not happen in 2025.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;US Equities: Too high, too low or just right?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;This post, at least so far, has been a post mortem of the year that was, but investing is always about the future, and the question that we all face as investors, is where stocks will go this year. In my unscientific assessment of stock market opinion, from experts and market timers, there seems to a decided tilt towards bearishness at the start of 2026, for a variety of reasons. There are some who note that having had three good years in a run, stocks will take breather. Others point to history and note that stocks generally don&#39;t do well in the second years of presidential terms. The most common metric that bearish investors point to, though, is&lt;b&gt; the PE ratio for stocks at the start of 2026 is pushing towards historic highs&lt;/b&gt;, as can be seen in the graph below, where I look at three variants on the PE ratio - a trailing PE, where I divide the index by earnings in the most recent 12 months, a normalized PE, where I divide the index by the average earnings over the last ten years and a Shiller PE, where I average inflation-adjusted earnings over the last ten years:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVQJwBrgjkzZI85N4D7pXFPbu968ihpbHNUmSBlCbBhPX4YHdWXNNBHAlgZ8GIr8BfxRBl0qp-z-t2W9fTwkbaXOhT4VrB_lY0-rx9N6AhbgkOZZgffaWkzWNJ267oh-m4GzfM5_F3OGC_82F9HEJItha_LbfvFbtukRJtkVUwdzB-decVqBwiii0-9fM/s2142/USPE.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1524&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2142&quot; height=&quot;285&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVQJwBrgjkzZI85N4D7pXFPbu968ihpbHNUmSBlCbBhPX4YHdWXNNBHAlgZ8GIr8BfxRBl0qp-z-t2W9fTwkbaXOhT4VrB_lY0-rx9N6AhbgkOZZgffaWkzWNJ267oh-m4GzfM5_F3OGC_82F9HEJItha_LbfvFbtukRJtkVUwdzB-decVqBwiii0-9fM/w400-h285/USPE.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/PEHistory2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download historical PE ratios for US equities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Using every PE ratio measure, it is undeniable that the PE ratio for the S&amp;amp;P 500, at the start of 2026, is much higher than it has been at any extended period in history, perhaps with the exception with the late 1990s. While this may sound like a slam dunk argument for US stocks being over priced, it is worth remembering that this indicator would have suggested staying out of US equities for much of the last decade. The problem with the PE pricing metric is that it is noisy and an unreliable indicator, and before you use it to build a case that equity investors in the US have become irrational, you may want to consider reasons why US stocks have benefited able to fight the gravitational forces of mean reversion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Robust Earnings Growth &amp;amp; Earnings Resilience&lt;/i&gt;: In this century, US stocks have increased more than four-fold, with the S&amp;amp;P 500 rising from 1320.28 at the end of 2000 to 6845.5 at the end of 2025, but it is also worth noting that US companies have also had a solid run in earnings, with earnings increasing about 356% during that same time period.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgPDksvOSHL-iY_q86n-HBd46aEP8LIQcdC13j-oghKEgsAMaZ9yzj8tafnbkOZ8FxiJPoxokLSbbQXoFF1lRMA96z-Z8nd8-RHe8j9q51nB8M6YSQfcebXk42d0pc4abeR78ADpBYGVOH6YUBdUGejS5qDIxzJ4CvypsclBYLMeddFJr6EhLXV3lZqz08/s698/USEarningsCorrect.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;532&quot; data-original-width=&quot;698&quot; height=&quot;305&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgPDksvOSHL-iY_q86n-HBd46aEP8LIQcdC13j-oghKEgsAMaZ9yzj8tafnbkOZ8FxiJPoxokLSbbQXoFF1lRMA96z-Z8nd8-RHe8j9q51nB8M6YSQfcebXk42d0pc4abeR78ADpBYGVOH6YUBdUGejS5qDIxzJ4CvypsclBYLMeddFJr6EhLXV3lZqz08/w400-h305/USEarningsCorrect.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is also notable that not only did earnings register strong growth over this period, there were only three years in this century when earnings declined - 2001 (dot com bust), 2009 (2008 crisis) and 2020 (Covid). US companies have become more resilient in terms of delivering earnings through recessions and other crises, pointing to perhaps less risk in equities. I will return in a later post to examine why that may be, with some of the answers rooted in changes in US equity market composition and some in management behavior.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. Healthy cash returns&lt;/i&gt;: In conjunction with delivering earnings growth, US companies have also been returning large amounts of cash to their shareholders, albeit more in buybacks than in conventional dividends. In 2025, the companies in the S&amp;amp;P 500 alone returned more than a trillion dollars in cash flows in buybacks, and in the graph below, I look at how the augmented cash yield (composed of dividends and buybacks) has largely sustained the market:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNjvCx7HDfPf8sc6H77c6zyzyCtf9uUYRF2erKNiK4-DO_dWwZqpOc9A31EgKYmXpnwLEVSoxzirL-bmSJuIdkZBEapuOkXZySz_b6MbjtMTvSXDGMV4VlVwsaBuMJwZO1BYhtTPUna9TsQbSw96UO_lPzDe1GGUvXrlZvTAMwFYjXLd1sYGhpscBSD0g/s708/CashReturn.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;523&quot; data-original-width=&quot;708&quot; height=&quot;295&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNjvCx7HDfPf8sc6H77c6zyzyCtf9uUYRF2erKNiK4-DO_dWwZqpOc9A31EgKYmXpnwLEVSoxzirL-bmSJuIdkZBEapuOkXZySz_b6MbjtMTvSXDGMV4VlVwsaBuMJwZO1BYhtTPUna9TsQbSw96UO_lPzDe1GGUvXrlZvTAMwFYjXLd1sYGhpscBSD0g/w400-h295/CashReturn.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While the dividend payout ratio, computed using only dividends, has been on a downward trend all through this century, adding buyback to dividends and computing a cash yield ratios yields values that are comparable to what dividend yields used to be, before the buyback era.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In sum, you can see why both bulls and bears retreat to their favored arguments, and there is no obvious tie breaker. The level of stock prices (PE ratios) should be a concern, but you cannot dismiss the benefits of growing and resilient earnings, and substantial cash return. To break the tie, in a very self serving away, I will revert to my favored metric for the US equity market, the &lt;b&gt;implied equity risk premium&lt;/b&gt;, which in addition to looking at stock price levels, the growth in earnings and the cash return, also brings in the level of rates. The implied equity risk premium, as I compute it, is the based upon the index level and the expected cashflows (from dividends and buybacks, augmented by earnings growth), and very simply, is an internal rate of return for stocks. Netting out the riskfree rate yields an equity risk premium. The table below contains the computation of the implied ERP at the start of 2026:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAeIHlauSziowMedV9-arSb3WAecFedMdxojZq6DxwNW3SV49MUUrW6RRxaRPyhvRipA_DyXw0IEammkXPMm7h3GvIkG-V949bivLjhVzJItC_D8cc368_00smV3OINBT_7KeVhYNH-IF0gGG_nE68wodB9cqRFdJYWnR2xC0w18pVVEElsd5d8ETc58o/w400-h249/ERPJan2026Picture.jpg&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJan26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Given the index level on January 1, 2026, of 6845.5, and the expected cash flows that I computed on that date (using the dividends and buybacks in the trailing 12 months as my starting point, and growing them at the same rate as earnings), I obtain an expected return on stocks of 8.41%. Subtracting out the US T. Bond rate (dollar riskfree rate) of 4.18% (3.95%) &amp;nbsp;on that day yields an equity risk premium of 4.23% (4.46%) for the &amp;nbsp;US. I want to emphasize again that this estimate is entirely a market-driven number and is model-agnostic.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you are wondering how estimating this numbers lets you make a judgment on whether US stocks are over priced, all you need to reframe the equity risk premium by asking whether the current ERP is, in your view, too high, too low or just right.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you believe that the market is&lt;b&gt; pricing in too low an ERP&lt;/b&gt;, given the risks that are on the horizon, you are contending&amp;nbsp;the &lt;b&gt;stocks are over priced&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If your view is that the c&lt;b&gt;urrent ERP is too high&lt;/b&gt;, that is equivalent to arguing that s&lt;b&gt;tocks today are under priced&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you are not a market timer, you are in effect arguing that &lt;b&gt;the current ERP is, in fact, the right ERP for the market&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;To illustrate this point, I have estimated the value of the index at equity risk premiums ranging from 2% to 6%:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0MPUuaAnRSm5G9u0cNAICnksOXr_nYN00wfY1mH0K4dPBDWRKhQlDNtoaj5mT-QR3Pkezd2XB_1qsjkAnXD8SyyVL2XkR-gOKHfZSLUzSslKhkFVuONbWlpjhoSEknm9gHouzXX2Ie1Hj1VBSjdPbJEADjbenHvgLlnadw_I7UAx1MZZZw_AMTpbzwPg/s461/ERP&amp;amp;ValueTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;185&quot; data-original-width=&quot;461&quot; height=&quot;160&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0MPUuaAnRSm5G9u0cNAICnksOXr_nYN00wfY1mH0K4dPBDWRKhQlDNtoaj5mT-QR3Pkezd2XB_1qsjkAnXD8SyyVL2XkR-gOKHfZSLUzSslKhkFVuONbWlpjhoSEknm9gHouzXX2Ie1Hj1VBSjdPbJEADjbenHvgLlnadw_I7UAx1MZZZw_AMTpbzwPg/w400-h160/ERP&amp;amp;ValueTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With a 2% equity risk premium, you get an astounding value of 14834 for the S&amp;amp;P 500, which would make the index undervalued by 53%. At the other end of the spectrum, with a 6% equity risk premium, the index should trade at 4790, translating into an overvaluation of 43%.&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;So, is the ERP of 4.23% (I will revert to this number, since my historical numbers did use the US treasury bond rate as the riskfree rate) at the start of 2026 a high, low or just-right number? Rather than make that judgment for you, I have computed the implied ERP for the S&amp;amp;P 500 going back to 1960:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0QiwHaVIE9burRj0jApd5r5kxGfTVg96n2AzmaHM8w0SEv-yIwmZaNl3jzmDTFkT8LfbmD3jsfdLT0KmYGYadSJUNw0cXoOC1wKyMLAHGrOiSMy6HWeACKnTfKbpxw_xJ8qIK_dcd9bwj2NQF4llvqQXwCtIZQlAaG1Z9gxxWmNPVgDF5cHcUL6DYUiU/s1336/histimplchart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;880&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1336&quot; height=&quot;264&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0QiwHaVIE9burRj0jApd5r5kxGfTVg96n2AzmaHM8w0SEv-yIwmZaNl3jzmDTFkT8LfbmD3jsfdLT0KmYGYadSJUNw0cXoOC1wKyMLAHGrOiSMy6HWeACKnTfKbpxw_xJ8qIK_dcd9bwj2NQF4llvqQXwCtIZQlAaG1Z9gxxWmNPVgDF5cHcUL6DYUiU/w400-h264/histimplchart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histimpl.xls&quot;&gt;Download historical implied ERP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is something in this graph that almost every investor group can take comfort in, If you are market neutral, you will take comfort from the fact that the current ERP is almost exactly equal to the average for the 1960-2025 period. If you are bearish you will point to the fact that the ERP now is lower than it has been in the post-2008 period, backing up your case that an adjustment is overdue. &amp;nbsp;I am leery of the bubble word, especially used in the context of this market, since unlike the end of 1999, when the ERP got as low as 2.05%, the current ERP is more in the middle of the historic range.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Bottom Line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; US equities had a good year in 2025, and there are signs of excess in at some parts of the market, especially related to AI. That said, the capacity of US companies to continue to deliver earnings and return cash flows even in the face of a tsunami of bad news continues to sustain the market. I am, at my core, a non market-timer, but I have held back on putting idle cash back into US equities in the last year, preferring to keep that cash in treasury bills. It is entirely possible that the market will continue to prove the naysayers wrong and post another strong year, but much as it may pain equity investors, the healthiest development for the market would be for it to deliver a return roughly equal to its expected return (8-9%) and clean up on pricing overreach along the way. For the bears, this may also be the year when the bad news stories of last year, including tariffs and political whiplash, will finally start to hit the bottom line, reducing aggregate earnings and cash flows, but waiting on the sidelines for this to happen has not been a good strategy for the last decade.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/BzG8M74BfrY?si=TZa7G70Xyr02KkqR&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histretSP.xlsx&quot;&gt;Historical returns on US equities (also bonds, bills, gold and real estate)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IndustryReturns2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Industry returns in 2025, by quarter and industry grouping&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/PEHistory2026.xlsx&quot;&gt;PE ratios for US equities from 1960 to 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histimpl.xls&quot;&gt;Historical implied equity risk premium for US equities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheet Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJan26.xlsx&quot;&gt;Implied ERP computation for the S&amp;amp;P 500 on January 1, 2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Update Posts for 2026&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested and pass again!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 8 for 2026: Dividends and Buybacks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/117827854793734804/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/117827854793734804' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/117827854793734804'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/117827854793734804'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html' title='Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested, and pass again!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipPEI-T2qQKGFSBs9llxjzhEJVNTU3iKbDW5www2eNa3_J8OJ2YLUwRf8WdgSPTfvjapYhggi0SAzMzIVbrpbgAOTgAx8ktMKzB3_aN1_cHyOQpTQMpgFXAATjUOOIh3-2mz1ZOXLsghBSNso_juSa6joIiDLX9CIVr-F2e3qWphI_tMCKe3WprRbiU5s/s72-w400-h288-c/USIndices2025.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1807025299296313298</id><published>2026-01-09T17:36:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2026-03-03T16:52:15.592-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Data Updates"/><title type='text'>Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In my musings on valuation, I have long described myself as more of a number cruncher than a storyteller, but it is because I love numbers for their own sake, rather than a fondness for abstract mathematics. It is that love for numbers that has led me at the beginning of each year since the 1990s to take publicly available data on individual companies, both from their financial statements and from the markets that they are listed and traded on, and try to make sense of that data for a variety of reasons - to gain perspective, to use in my corporate financial analysis and valuations and to separate information from disinformation . As my access to data has improved, what started as a handful of datasets in my first data update in 1994 has expanded to cover a much wider array of statistics than I had initially envisioned, and my 2026 data updates are now ready. If you are interested in what they contain, please read on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; After a year during which we heard more talk about data and data centers than ever before in history, usually in the context of how AI will change our lives, it is worth considering the draw that data has aways had on not just businesses but on individuals, as well as the dangers with the proliferation of data and the trust we put on that data.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;In a world where we feel adrift and uncertain, the appeal of data is clear. It gives us a sense of control, even if it is only in passing, and provides us with mechanisms for making decisions in the face of uncertainty.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Signal in the noise&lt;/u&gt;: Anyone who has to price/value a stock or assess a project at a firm has to make estimates in the face of contradictions, both in viewpoints and in numbers. The entire point of good data analysis is to find the signals in the noise, allowing for reasoned judgments, albeit with the recognition that you will make mistakes.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Coping mechanism for uncertainty&lt;/u&gt;: Investors and businesses, when faced with uncertainty, often respond in unhealthy ways, with denial and paralysis as common responses. Here again, data can help in two ways, first by helping you picture the range of possible outcomes and second by bringing in tools (simulations, data visualizations) for incorporating uncertainty into your decision-making.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Prescription against tunnel vision&lt;/u&gt;: It is easy to get bogged down in details, when faced with having to make investment decisions, and lose perspective. &amp;nbsp;One of the advantages of looking at data differences over time and across firms is that it can help you elevate and regain perspective, separating the stuff that matters a lot from that which matters little.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Shield from disinformation&lt;/u&gt;: At the risk of getting backlash, I find that people make up stuff and present it as fact. While it is easy to blame social media, which has provided a megaphone for these fabulists, I read and hear statements in the media, ostensibly from experts, politicians and regulators, that cause me to do double takes since they are not just wrong, but easily provable as wrong, with the data.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;While data clearly has benefits, as a data-user, I do know that it comes with costs and consequences, and it behooves us all to be aware of them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;False precision&lt;/u&gt;: It is undeniable that attaching a number to something that worries you, whether it be your health or your finances, can provide a sense of comfort, but there is the danger with treating estimates as facts. In one of my upcoming posts, for instance, I will look at the historical equity risk premium, measured by looking at what stocks have earned, on an annual basis, over treasury bonds for the last century. The estimate that I will provide is 7.03% (the average over the entire period), but that number comes with a standard error of 2.05%, resulting in a range from a little less than 4% (7.03% - 2&amp;nbsp;× 2.05%) to greater than 11%. This estimation error plays out over and over again in almost every number that we use in corporate finance and valuation, and while there is little that can be done about it, its presence should animate how we use the data.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Role of Bias&lt;/u&gt;: I have long argued that we are all biased, albeit in varying degrees and in different directions, and that bias will find its way into the choices we make. With data, this can play out consciously, where we use data estimates that feed into our biases and avoid estimates that work in the opposite direction, but more dangerously, they can also play out subconsciously, in the choices we make. While it is true that practitioners are more exposed to bias, because their rewards and compensation are often tied to the output of their research, the notion that academics are somehow objective because their work is peer-reviewed is laughable, since their incentive systems create their own biases.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Lazy mean reversion&lt;/u&gt;: In a series of posts that I wrote about value investing, at least as practiced by many of its old-time practitioners, I argued that it was built around mean reversion, the assumption that the world (and markets) will revert back to historic norms. Thus, you buy low PBV stocks, assuming (and hoping) that those PBV ratios will revert to market averages, and argue that the market is overpriced because the PE ratio today is much higher than it has been historically. That strategy is attractive to those who use it, because mean reversion works much of the time, but it is breaks down when markets go through structural shifts that cause permanent departures from the past.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The data did it&lt;/u&gt;: As we put data on a pedestal, treating the numbers from emerge from it as the truth, there is also the danger that some analysts who use it view themselves as purely data engineers. While they make recommendations based upon the data, they also refuse to take ownership for their own prescriptions, arguing that it is the data that is responsible.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As the data that we collect and have access to gets richer and deeper, and the tools that we have to analyze that data become more powerful, there are some who see a utopian world where this data access and analysis leads to better decisions and policy as output. Having watched this data revolution play out in investing and markets, I am not so sure, at least in the investing space. Many analysts now complain that they have too much data, not too little, and struggle with data overload. At the same time, a version of Gresham&#39;s law seems to be kicking in, where bad data (or misinformation) often drives out good data, leading to worse decisions and policy choices. My advice, gingerly offered, is that as you access data, it is caveat emptor, and that you should do the following with any data (including my own):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;(a) Consider the biases and priors of the data provider.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;(b) Not use data that comes from black boxes, where providers refuse to detail how they arrived at numbers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;(c) Crosscheck with alternate data providers, for consistency.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Coverage&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;As I mentioned at the start of this post, I started my data estimation for purely selfish reasons, which is that I needed those estimates for my corporate financial analyses and valuations. While my sharing of the data may seem altruistic, the truth is that there is little that is proprietary or special about my data analysis, and almost anyone with the time and access to data can do the same.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Data Sources&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;At the risk of stating the obvious, you cannot do data analysis without having access to raw data. In 1993, when I did my first estimates, I subscribed to Value Line and bought their company-specific data, which about 2000 US companies and included a subset of items on financial statements, on a compact disc. I used Value Line&#39;s industry categorizations to compute industry averages on a few dozen items, and presented them in a few datasets, which I shared with my students. In 2025, my access to data has widened, especially because my NYU affiliation gives me access&amp;nbsp;S&amp;amp;P Capital IQ and a Bloomberg terminal, which I supplement with subscriptions (mostly free) to online data. It is worth noting that these almost all the data from these providers is in the public domain, either in the form of company filings for disclosure or in government macroeconomic data, and the primary benefit (and it is a big one) is easy access.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As my data access has improved, I have added variables to my datasets, but the data items that I report reflect my corporate finance and valuation&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;needs. The figure below provides a partial listing of some of these variables:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiSR-qQdoo-YRNX8JRhs7LJ0S5fqNA7964TnLLPWU_OWyyVG1dfnZ9uHXUbecElIKjeecG8QNF4JoTlmTFVsD5fklsoR_z1HpOj3oEgEdpylVkJ8dxe3arzOfMdrfQtvAi0fmF1eZTiu-NMoxY-YoeIKs2oHtKe3aMAfEEkSU7epCJ3pXBSmB0hlcCU4jY/s1834/Allvariables.jpeg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1146&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1834&quot; height=&quot;250&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiSR-qQdoo-YRNX8JRhs7LJ0S5fqNA7964TnLLPWU_OWyyVG1dfnZ9uHXUbecElIKjeecG8QNF4JoTlmTFVsD5fklsoR_z1HpOj3oEgEdpylVkJ8dxe3arzOfMdrfQtvAi0fmF1eZTiu-NMoxY-YoeIKs2oHtKe3aMAfEEkSU7epCJ3pXBSmB0hlcCU4jY/w400-h250/Allvariables.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see from browsing this list, much of the data that I report is at the micro level, and the only macro data that I report is on variables that I need in valuation, such as default spreads and equity risk premiums. &amp;nbsp; In computing these variables, I have tried to stay consistent with my own thinking and teaching and transparent about my usage. As an illustration for consistency, I have argued for three decades that lease commitments should be treated as debt and that R&amp;amp;D expenditures are capital, not operating, expenses, and my calculations have always reflected those views, even if they were at odds with the accounting rules. In 2019, the accounting rules caught up with my views on lease debt, and while the numbers that I report on debt ratios and invested capital are now&amp;nbsp;closer to the accounting numbers, I continue to do my own computations of lease debt and report on divergences with accounting estimates. With R&amp;amp;D, I remain at odds with accountants, and I report on the affected numbers (like margins and accounting return) with and without my adjustments. On the transparency front, you can find the &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/variable.htm&quot;&gt;details of how I computed each variable at this link&lt;/a&gt;, and it is entirely possible that you may not agree with my computation, it is in the open.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There are a few final computational details that are worth emphasizing, and especially so if you plan to use this data in your analyses:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With the micro data, I&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;report on industry values rather than on individual companies&lt;/i&gt;, for two reasons. The first is that my raw data providers are understandably protective of their company-level data and have a dim view of my entry into that space. The second is that if you want company-level data for an individual company or even a subset, that data is, for the most part, already available in the financial filings of the company. Put simply, you don&#39;t need Capital IQ or Bloomberg to get to the annual reports of an individual company.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;For global statistics, where companies in different countries are included within each industry, and report their financials in different currencies, I &lt;i&gt;download the data converted into US dollars&lt;/i&gt;. Thus, numbers that are in absolute value (like total market capitalization) are in US dollars, but most of the statistics that I report are ratios or fractions, where currency is not an issue, at least for measurement. Thus, the PE ratio that I report would be the same for any company in my sample, whether I compute it in US dollar or Chilean pesos, and the same can be said about accounting ratios (margins, accounting returns).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While&lt;i&gt; computing industry averages&lt;/i&gt; may seem like a trivial computational challenge, there are two problems you face in large datasets of diverse companies. The first is that there will be individual companies where the data is missing or not available, as is the case with PE ratios for companies with negative earnings. The second is that the companies within a group can vary in size with very small and large companies in the mix. Consequently, a simple average will be a flawed measure for an industry statistic, since it weighs the very small and the very large companies equally, and while a size-weighted average may seem like a fix, the companies with missing data will remain a problem. My solution, and you may not like it, it to c&lt;i&gt;ompute aggregated values of variable, and use these aggregated values to compute the representative statistics&lt;/i&gt;. Thus, my estimate the PE ratio for an industry grouping is obtained by dividing the total market capitalization of all companies in the grouping by the total net income of all companies (including money losers) in the grouping.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Since my data is now global, I also report on these variables not only across all companies globally in each industry group, but for regional&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;sub-groupings:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKnvW-G4PB9HfpIuAjgq8EBdd2I_Rm6XcWHYprRNyUje-_szkbtEouwXewVwS4tRS6lwqiTqCjDFcBf7BaHkusoA0Wn7393iR22GWPIlYK3RtkPkgNdtZI543QG2nMVonuRbkgEa5Oia-T6UruaXxPc-rk3khPykFJ99RURX6U1tJ5I1RXhYDYmKjeGSM/s1412/REgionaDescr.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;960&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1412&quot; height=&quot;272&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKnvW-G4PB9HfpIuAjgq8EBdd2I_Rm6XcWHYprRNyUje-_szkbtEouwXewVwS4tRS6lwqiTqCjDFcBf7BaHkusoA0Wn7393iR22GWPIlYK3RtkPkgNdtZI543QG2nMVonuRbkgEa5Oia-T6UruaXxPc-rk3khPykFJ99RURX6U1tJ5I1RXhYDYmKjeGSM/w400-h272/REgionaDescr.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I will admit that this breakdown may look quirky, but it reflects the history of my data updates. The reason Japan gets its own grouping is because when I started my data grouping two decades ago, it was a much larger part of both the global economy and markets. The emerging markets grouping has become larger and more unwieldy over time, as some of the countries in this group had or have acquired developed market status and as China and India have grown as economies and markets, I have started reporting statistics for them separately, in addition to including them in the emerging markets grouping. Europe, as a region, has become more dispersed in its risk characteristics, with parts of Southern Europe showing the volatility more typical of emerging markets.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Data Universe&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In the first part of this post, I noted how bias can skew data analysis, and one of the biggest sources of bias is sampling, where you pick a subset of companies and draw the wrong conclusions about companies. Thus, using only the companies in the S&amp;amp;P 500 or companies that market capitalizations that exceed a billion in your sample in computing industry averages will yield results that reflect what large companies are doing or are priced at, and not the entire market. To reduce this sampling bias, I include all publicly traded companies that have a market price that exceeds zero in my sample, yielding a total sample size of 48,156 companies in my data universe. Note that there will be some sampling bias still left insofar as unlisted and privately owned businesses are not&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;included, but since disclosure requirements for these businesses are much spottier, it is unlikely that we will have datasets that include these ignored companies in the sample in the near future.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In terms of geography, the companies in my sample span the globe, and I will add to my earlier note on regional breakdowns, by looking at the number of firms listed and market capitalizations of companies in each sub-region:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1PHAww1NkqyPpIUCYp9J83tI9iKOmAiTZ8Gsm88rmib7L-jlPUduBhIAx7VJQl6orRHD137IL4zSOemjJFeOKCtfDMvMrafWkTkjAWYAQA2MhGHJ0z-q0g2pluvwrD7NiobskjhhV8g2iUFgGIPjAbvtWyCif86f8KjOQUaPjOzEwiJMmxRbX6htpb8g/s2104/RegionPef2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;694&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2104&quot; height=&quot;133&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1PHAww1NkqyPpIUCYp9J83tI9iKOmAiTZ8Gsm88rmib7L-jlPUduBhIAx7VJQl6orRHD137IL4zSOemjJFeOKCtfDMvMrafWkTkjAWYAQA2MhGHJ0z-q0g2pluvwrD7NiobskjhhV8g2iUFgGIPjAbvtWyCif86f8KjOQUaPjOzEwiJMmxRbX6htpb8g/w400-h133/RegionPef2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datacurrent.html&quot;&gt;Current data link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, the United States, &amp;nbsp;with 5994 firms and a total market capitalization of $69.8 trillion, continues to have a dominant share of the global market. While US stocks had a good year, up almost 16.8% in the aggregate, the US share of the global market dipped slightly from the 48.7% at the end of 2024 to 46.8% at the end of 2025. The best performing sub-region in 2025 was China, up almost 32.5% in US dollar terms, and the worst, again in US dollar terms, was India, up only 3.31%. Global equities added $26.3 trillion in market capitalization in 2025, up 21.46% for the year.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While I do report averages by industry group, for 95 industry groupings, these are part of broader sectors, and in the table&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;below, you can see the breakdown of the overall sample by sector:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgzxJuxfp2-DZF4kSxyfvKDSTMY1ca0T1lWRtnbQ6PSzLaKCpD4-lYA7EBkhQ_FoBpg3qxu6sP5F6fOFZv9coQEYKzJCnT5RzRfZhfRoMAZ1Ye4G_vUNwc94WQ4m9RqDeUlcWlhlZMnV2lIc3yUUOliJt2q4_DncXxWB2h3a0-5fRgqpZQMdhKw7dRGJCw/s2078/SectorPwrf2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;644&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2078&quot; height=&quot;124&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgzxJuxfp2-DZF4kSxyfvKDSTMY1ca0T1lWRtnbQ6PSzLaKCpD4-lYA7EBkhQ_FoBpg3qxu6sP5F6fOFZv9coQEYKzJCnT5RzRfZhfRoMAZ1Ye4G_vUNwc94WQ4m9RqDeUlcWlhlZMnV2lIc3yUUOliJt2q4_DncXxWB2h3a0-5fRgqpZQMdhKw7dRGJCw/w400-h124/SectorPwrf2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datacurrent.html&quot;&gt;Current data link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Across all global companies, technology is now the largest share of the market, commanding almost 22% of overall market capitalization, followed by financial services with 17.51% and industrials with 12.76%. There is wide divergence across sectors, in terms of market performance in 2025, with technology delivering the highest (20.73%) and real estate and utilities the lowest. There is clearly much more that can be on&amp;nbsp;both the regional and sector analyses that can enrich this analysis, but that will have to wait until the next posts&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Usage&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; My data is open access and freely available, and it is not my place to tell you how to use it. That said, it behooves me to talk about both the users that this data is directed at, as well as the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;uses that it is best suited for.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;For practitioners, not academic researchers&lt;/u&gt;: The data that I report is for practitioners in corporate finance, investing and valuation, rather than academic researchers. Thus, all of the data is on the &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datacurrent.html&quot;&gt;current data link&lt;/a&gt; is data as of the start of January 2026, and can be used in assessments and analysis today. If you are doctoral student or researcher, you will be better served going to the raw data or having access to a full data service, but if you lack that access, and want to download and use my industry averages over time, you can use the &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/dataarchived.html&quot;&gt;archived data&lt;/a&gt; that I have, with the caveat being that not all data items have long histories and my raw data sources have changed over time.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Starting point, not ending point&lt;/u&gt;: If you do decide to use any of my data, please do recognize that it is the starting point for your analysis, not a magic bullet. Thus, if you are pricing a steel company in Thailand, you can start with the EV/EBITDA multiple that I report for emerging market steel companies, but you should adjust that multiple for the characteristics of the company being analyzed.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Take ownership&lt;/u&gt;: If you do use my data, whether it be on equity risk premiums or pricing ratios, please try to understand how I compute these numbers (from my classes or writing) and take ownership of the resulting analysis.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you use my data, and acknowledge me as a source, I thank you, but you do not need to explicitly ask me for permission. The data is in the public domain to be used, not for show, and I am glad that you were able to find a use for it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Damodaran Bot!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;In 2024, I talked about the Damodaran Bot, an AI entity that had read or watched everything that I have put online (classes, books, writing, spreadsheets) and talked about what I could do to stay ahead of its reach. I argued that AI bots will not only match, but be better than I am, at mechanical and rule-based tasks, and that my best pathways to creating a differential advantage was in finding aspects of my work that required multi-disciplinary (numbers plus narrative) and generalist thinking, with intuition and imagination playing a key role. As I looked at the process that I went through to put my datasets together, I realized that there was no aspect of it that a bot cannot do better and faster than I can, and I plan to work on involving my bot more in my data update next year, with the end game of having it take over almost the entire process.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I do think that there is a message here for businesses that are built around collecting and processing data, and charging high prices for that service. Unless they can find other differentials, they are exposed to disruption, with AI doing much of what they do. More generally, to the extent that a great deal of quant investing has been built around smart numbers people working with large datasets to eke out excess returns, it will become more challenging, not less so, with AI in the mix.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/nvR2gxNREHM?si=_u-btgkjaMFbu1o5&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links to data&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/data.html&quot;&gt;My data entry page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datacurrent.html &quot;&gt;Current data for 2026&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/dataarchived.html &quot;&gt;Archived data&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/variable.htm &quot;&gt;Data variables&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Data Update Posts for 2026&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: -webkit-standard; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-2-for-2026-equities-get.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 2 for 2026: Equities get tested and pass again!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-3-for-2026-trust-deficit.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 3 for 2026: The Trust Deficit - Bonds, Currencies, Gold and Bitcoin!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-4-for-2026-global.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 4 for 2026: The Global Perspective&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-5-for-2026-risk-and-hurdle.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 5 for 2026: Risk and Hurdle Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-6-for-2026-in-search-of.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 6 for 2026: In Search of Profitability&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-7-for-2026-debt-and-taxes.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 7 for 2026: Debt and Taxes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/02/data-update-8-for-2026-time-for.html&quot;&gt;Data Update 8 for 2026: Dividends and Buybacks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1807025299296313298/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/1807025299296313298' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1807025299296313298'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1807025299296313298'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2026/01/data-update-1-for-2026-push-and-pull-of.html' title='Data Update 1 for 2026: The Push and Pull of Data!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiSR-qQdoo-YRNX8JRhs7LJ0S5fqNA7964TnLLPWU_OWyyVG1dfnZ9uHXUbecElIKjeecG8QNF4JoTlmTFVsD5fklsoR_z1HpOj3oEgEdpylVkJ8dxe3arzOfMdrfQtvAi0fmF1eZTiu-NMoxY-YoeIKs2oHtKe3aMAfEEkSU7epCJ3pXBSmB0hlcCU4jY/s72-w400-h250-c/Allvariables.jpeg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-7632903359064770058</id><published>2025-12-03T13:14:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2025-12-03T22:49:40.468-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Breakeven"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Market Cap"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Nvidia"/><title type='text'>Trillion Dollar Market Caps: Fairy Tale Pricing or Business Marvels?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Stock markets have always rewarded winners with large capitalizations, and with each new threshold, the questions begin anew of whether animal spirits or fundamentals are driving the numbers. A few weeks ago, &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Nvidia&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Nvidia&lt;/a&gt; seemed unstoppable as its market capitalization crested $5 trillion, and while markets have turned skeptical since, the core questions have not gone away, and the answers come from two extremes. At one end are the &quot;realists”, who view themselves as rational, above the fray and entirely data-driven, who argue that there is no business model that can support a value this high, and that Nvidia is overvalued. At the other end are the “&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=AI+true+believers+investment&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;AI true believers&lt;/a&gt;”, &amp;nbsp;who believe that if the market the company is going after is big enough, and they see AI as such a market, the upper bounds on value are released, the sky is the limit. As someone who entered the Nvidia sweepstakes early (in 2018) and has held it through much of its magical run, while expressing reservations about its pricing running ahead of its value, especially in the last three years, I will try to thread the needle (unsuccessfully, I am sure) in this post. In fact, rather than try to convince you that the company is under or overvalued, which is really your judgment to make, I will offer a simple model to reverse engineer from any given market capitalization, the revenues and profitability thresholds you have to meet, and allow you to come to your own conclusions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;A History of Market Cap Thresholds&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In 1901, &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=US+Steel&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;US Steel&lt;/a&gt; was created &amp;nbsp;when &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Andrew+Carnegie&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Andrew Carnegie&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=J.P.+Morgan&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;J.P. Morgan&lt;/a&gt; consolidated much of the US steel business, with an eye to monopolizing the steel business, and the company became the first global firm with a market capitalization of a billion dollars, a small number in today&#39;s terms, but a number that was three times larger than the Federal budget in that year. The twentieth century was a good one for the US economy and US stocks, and the thresholds for highest market cap rose along the way:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg716MpqLDZNr4GWgqWne8Hc59ic1A-Wid_c6rEviMZOc9o641d40ccgrHjyIskKR-eys1yQEueteAxouRApeCJs-WjeCot319m197MU81XOnbgJ6hgg1VmY87G49HPZb7L4oSsmpRnBNS53w1Kovc7iCf4Ww41HeMbA6T6D8weGPXIQexTA8lg6fBCTNY/s1726/MktCapThresholdHistory.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;258&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1726&quot; height=&quot;67&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg716MpqLDZNr4GWgqWne8Hc59ic1A-Wid_c6rEviMZOc9o641d40ccgrHjyIskKR-eys1yQEueteAxouRApeCJs-WjeCot319m197MU81XOnbgJ6hgg1VmY87G49HPZb7L4oSsmpRnBNS53w1Kovc7iCf4Ww41HeMbA6T6D8weGPXIQexTA8lg6fBCTNY/w446-h67/MktCapThresholdHistory.jpg&quot; width=&quot;446&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note the long stretch between Microsoft hitting the half-a-trillion dollar market cap in 1999, as the &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=dot+com+boom&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;dot com boom&lt;/a&gt; peaked, and Apple doubling that threshold in 2018. Note also the quickening of the pace, as Apple hit the $2 trillion and $3 trillion market capitalization thresholds in the next four years, and Nvidia continued the streak hitting $4 trillion in 2024 and $5 trillion in 2025.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The table does provide a starting point to discussing multiple themes about how the US economy and US equities have evolved over the last century. You can see the shift away from the smokestack economy to technology , in the companies hitting the thresholds, with US Steel and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=General+Motors&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;GM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt; firmly in the old economy mode, Microsoft, Apple, and Nvidia representing the new economy, and GE, with its large financial service arm, operating as a bridge. Having been in markets for all of the thresholds breached since 1981, the debate about whether the company breaking through has risen too much in too short a time period has been a recurring one.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Substance&lt;/b&gt;: To get a measure of operating substance, I looked at the revenues and net income in the year leading into the year in which each company broke through the threshold. As you can see, US Steel had revenues of $0.56 billion and net income of $0.13 billion in 1901, the year in which its market cap exceeded $1 billion. GM, at the time its market cap breached $10 billion, had revenues of $9.83 billion, on which it generated net income of $0.81 billion; if &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+PE+ratio&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;PE ratios&lt;/a&gt; are your pricing metric of choice, that would have translated into a PE ratio of 12.35. Between 2018 and 2022, as Apple&#39;s market cap tripled from $1 trillion to $3 trillion, its annual revenues increased by 72%, and its net profits almost doubled. Finally, coming to Nvidia, the surge in market cap to $4 trillion in 2024 and $5 trillion in 2025 has come on revenues and net income that are about a quarter of the size of Apple&#39;s revenues and net income.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Life cycle&lt;/b&gt;: Every company that climbed to the top of the market cap tables and hit a market cap threshold historically has had single-digit revenue growth in the year leading up, with two exceptions: Microsoft in 1999, which was coming off a 28% revenue growth rate in 1998, and Nvidia in both 2024 and 2025 coming off even higher growth rates. Using this revenue growth rate in conjunction with the ages of the companies involved, I think it is fair to conclude that there has been a shift across time, with the mature companies (older, lower growth) that were at the top of the list for much of the twentieth century to much younger companies with growth potential rising to the top in this one.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Investment returns&lt;/b&gt;: Looking at the returns in the years after these companies hit their market cap thresholds, the results are mixed. While buying Apple in 2018, 2020, or 2022 would have yielded winning returns, at least over the next year or two, buying Microsoft in 1999 would not. In some of these cases, extending the time horizon would have made a difference, for the positive with Microsoft and for the negative with GE.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;From a rational perspective, you could argue that these thresholds (billion, half a billion, trillion, etc.) are arbitrary and that there is nothing gained by focusing on them, but i&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2018/09/apple-and-amazon-at-trillion-looking.html&quot;&gt;n a post that I wrote in September 2018 on Apple and Microsoft becoming trillion-dollar companies&lt;/a&gt;, I argued that crossing these arbitrary thresholds can draw attention to the numbers, with the effects cutting both ways, drawing in investors who regret missing out on the rising market cap in the periods before (a positive) and causing existing investors to take a closer look at what they are getting in return (perhaps a negative).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Market Caps: Pathways to Intrinsic Value Break Even&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;Debates about whether a company is worth what it is trading for, whether it be a billion, ten billion, a hundred billion, or a trillion, devolve into shouting matches of &quot;he said, she said&quot;, with each side staking out divergent perspectives on value and name-calling the other. Having been on the receiving end of some of that abuse, I decided to take a different pathway to examining this question. Rather than wonder whether Nvidia is worth five trillion or Eli Lilly is worth a trillion, I framed the question in terms of how much Nvidia or Eli Lilly would have to generate in revenues to justify their market capitalizations. The reason for my focus on revenues is simple since it is relatively unaffected by accounting games and can be compared to the total market size to gain perspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The tool that I plan to use to arrive at this breakeven revenue is &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+intrinsic+valuation&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;intrinsic valuation&lt;/a&gt;, and I chose not to use the acronym &quot;&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=define+DCF&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;DCF&lt;/a&gt;&quot; deliberately. A discounted cash flow valuation (DCF) sounds like an abstraction, with models driving discount rates and financial modeling driving cash flows. To me, a DCF is just a tool that allows you to assess how much you would pay for a business or &amp;nbsp;the equity in the business, given its capacity to generate cash flows for its owners. Since it is easy to get lost in the labyrinth of estimates over time, I will simplify my DCF by doing two things. First, since our discussion is about market capitalization, i.e., the market&#39;s estimate of the value of equity, I will stay with an equity version of the model, where I focus on the cash flows that equity investors can get from the business and discount these cash flows back at a rate of return that they would demand for investing in that equity. In its most general form, this is what an equity valuation yields:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgeYEzlgvfsozj-UCnys_23v6hoewg2VW-V1YhF_11Vn_3D8BNj9qGHimJpHvzImMF9xkqcfBa923V8nLIrkr11OxzmtB-SRHi_BBkrJPOlKtg3O7poa_N0gFiKJpf694hFG5MD7AJbheYSMfxSRcsr4oRhEGKbyq4cKKYl348AGnePNudF74Gec0Bqcws/s1338/IntrinsicValueEquitySimple.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;680&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1338&quot; height=&quot;163&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgeYEzlgvfsozj-UCnys_23v6hoewg2VW-V1YhF_11Vn_3D8BNj9qGHimJpHvzImMF9xkqcfBa923V8nLIrkr11OxzmtB-SRHi_BBkrJPOlKtg3O7poa_N0gFiKJpf694hFG5MD7AJbheYSMfxSRcsr4oRhEGKbyq4cKKYl348AGnePNudF74Gec0Bqcws/s320/IntrinsicValueEquitySimple.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;To simplify the assessment further, I structured this model to value equity in a mature company, i.e., one growing at or below the nominal growth rate of the economy in the very long term and again for simplicity, assumed that it could do this forever. The value of equity in this mature, long-lasting firm can be written as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjAIhZ7qptxRW7BxZi_JVSWS1tqNtv1QFrBWS4eigNCFCp55uAENty3RukYOtvDQCKekljkH6QZW9QOl8W4gKgLOU8NNpqUe3dwSk4dwBg2bnR_vSd4vjOUc3KUrhPaFtw2Jzb6WY5kOPOaHFL1NlTO_qbtX_uaaMdfNqU2YbKziRYSPZ14BpdMLXkvXsY/s1450/IntrinsicValueEquityLong.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;552&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1450&quot; height=&quot;153&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjAIhZ7qptxRW7BxZi_JVSWS1tqNtv1QFrBWS4eigNCFCp55uAENty3RukYOtvDQCKekljkH6QZW9QOl8W4gKgLOU8NNpqUe3dwSk4dwBg2bnR_vSd4vjOUc3KUrhPaFtw2Jzb6WY5kOPOaHFL1NlTO_qbtX_uaaMdfNqU2YbKziRYSPZ14BpdMLXkvXsY/w400-h153/IntrinsicValueEquityLong.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;To put this model into use, let&#39;s take the $5 trillion dollar market capitalization that Nvidia commanded a few weeks ago and assign the following general inputs:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Cost of equity&lt;/u&gt;: Every month, I estimate the implied cost of equity for the S&amp;amp;P 500, and that number is model-agnostic and driven by what investors are willing to pay for stocks, given their fears and hopes. At the start of November 2025, that number was about 8%, with higher required returns (9-12%) for riskier stocks and &amp;nbsp;lower expected returns (6-7%) for safer stocks.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=inflation+rate&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Inflation rate&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;: While inflation has come down from its 2022 highs, it has stayed stubbornly above 2%, which the &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Federal+Reserve&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Fed&lt;/a&gt; claims as its target, and it seems more realistic to assume that it will stay at 2.5%, which is consistent with the riskfree rate being about 4%.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Stable growth rate (nominal growth rate in the economy)&lt;/u&gt;: This is a number that is in flux, as economists worry about recessions and economic growth, but since this is a long-term number that incorporates expected inflation, it seems reasonable to assume an expected nominal growth of 4% for the economy (about 1.5% real growth).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;The net profit margin for Nvidia in the most recent twelve months has been 53.01%, an exceptionally high number, and the return on equity it has earned, on average over the last five years, is about 64.44%. I know that these numbers will come under pressure over time, as competition for &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=AI+chips&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;AI chips&lt;/a&gt; picks up, and Nvidia&#39;s biggest customers (and chip maker) push for their share of the spoils, but even if you assume that Nvidia can maintain these margins, the revenue that Nvidia would have to deliver to justify its value is $483.38 billion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiM9tyzz8AZKnqCglwyxflhqicPjXK24n8OSWLfz9Qts1cU3nUnAESYCh_ZVpGLhNhqWtWCPakY_yvcBtu0FHLEsDBkVYxNSAsweoykkGpE45foWTq54HNnO2FTyIXzSihH462ucbWP93ySAAv81TTVTmHE_do0vO1mRy6kbL51kt68A51YyBCiecs_ggg/s958/Breakeven%20Revenue%20Equation.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;124&quot; data-original-width=&quot;958&quot; height=&quot;47&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiM9tyzz8AZKnqCglwyxflhqicPjXK24n8OSWLfz9Qts1cU3nUnAESYCh_ZVpGLhNhqWtWCPakY_yvcBtu0FHLEsDBkVYxNSAsweoykkGpE45foWTq54HNnO2FTyIXzSihH462ucbWP93ySAAv81TTVTmHE_do0vO1mRy6kbL51kt68A51YyBCiecs_ggg/w366-h47/Breakeven%20Revenue%20Equation.jpg&quot; width=&quot;366&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Since Nvidia is still growing and you may need to wait, as equity investors, to get your cash flows, this breakeven number will get larger, the longer you have to wait and the lower the cash yield that equity investors receive during the growth period. In fact, with Nvidia, if you assume that it will take five years for them to grow to steady state, and that equity investors will receive a cash yield (cash flow as a percent of market cap) of 2% a year, the estimated breakeven revenue increases to $677.97 billion. The table below maps out the effects of waiting on breakeven revenues for a range of cash yield:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFukYt3lM21a5qrXVgUz337ctogLbgUn7iGD-1JInTaLkdK7N37I1HdLep6KaYLQQGhrqgU-209EJgBIbB6i_2dzmnO5iK-3sXJjiizOwvFVTc6aLDkgblktsiqDJP3TvBaVrcHCLs2Xg1K07QJbM6wFj_Zatam6bfcbl8KW4Zia-3b1QJFYu0CCe4Y3o/s1230/WaitingTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;330&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1230&quot; height=&quot;108&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFukYt3lM21a5qrXVgUz337ctogLbgUn7iGD-1JInTaLkdK7N37I1HdLep6KaYLQQGhrqgU-209EJgBIbB6i_2dzmnO5iK-3sXJjiizOwvFVTc6aLDkgblktsiqDJP3TvBaVrcHCLs2Xg1K07QJbM6wFj_Zatam6bfcbl8KW4Zia-3b1QJFYu0CCe4Y3o/w400-h108/WaitingTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/MktCapBreakeven.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download breakeven revenue spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If, as seems reasonable, you assume that net margins and return on equity will decrease over time, the revenues you would need to break even will expand:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjI-YzMj7oeidQehHh_iNGQnfg9xqjQQxzO9el7BSCMpOrMWDLbdQRlmVmmioqGes1yOlbNZtgInwwmo_nMXvBWDRzarjeg2c_7V7kW6MhZfUnqfmKpwQPnhvfXzS0ZTi4_bdh1s7up6afLIsWddvOfvANiNAUd1hM_hOl5iNJfCeLgkHyDuFpzzNKpqPI/s1584/MktCapBreakevenTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;402&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1584&quot; height=&quot;101&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjI-YzMj7oeidQehHh_iNGQnfg9xqjQQxzO9el7BSCMpOrMWDLbdQRlmVmmioqGes1yOlbNZtgInwwmo_nMXvBWDRzarjeg2c_7V7kW6MhZfUnqfmKpwQPnhvfXzS0ZTi4_bdh1s7up6afLIsWddvOfvANiNAUd1hM_hOl5iNJfCeLgkHyDuFpzzNKpqPI/w400-h101/MktCapBreakevenTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/MktCapBreakeven.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download breakeven revenue spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In fact, if you are a low-margin company, with net margins of 5% (as is the case with even the very best-run discount retailers) and a more modest return on equity of 10%, you will need revenues of $8 trillion or more to be able to get to a market capitalization of $5 trillion.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; This framework can be used to compute breakeven revenues at other firms, and in the table below, we do so for the twelve largest market cap companies in the world, at their market capitalizations on November 20, 2025:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgsKQpdWm4IkYAfIJZipQ6-1lHI62IYO3kPHOh3PLU8uBJI55QOecZtBeINUOpUxD0P7q1ImaAM7fwmblFAkZKxsZ3HBfmF5oJUxRDYCKKVVmtZTNWiDQnDEr8WUGSf5fUGloNad4iRw0pHGSM1p7tl_qpxPC7-6BquYBfNgB5osO0KwSMv57svhHSa2rs/s2472/BERevenueLgMktCap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;590&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2472&quot; height=&quot;118&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgsKQpdWm4IkYAfIJZipQ6-1lHI62IYO3kPHOh3PLU8uBJI55QOecZtBeINUOpUxD0P7q1ImaAM7fwmblFAkZKxsZ3HBfmF5oJUxRDYCKKVVmtZTNWiDQnDEr8WUGSf5fUGloNad4iRw0pHGSM1p7tl_qpxPC7-6BquYBfNgB5osO0KwSMv57svhHSa2rs/w497-h118/BERevenueLgMktCap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;497&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that, for simplicity, I have used a 2% cash yield and 4% growth rate in perpetuity for all of these firms, and that the breakeven revenues reflect current net margins and returns on equity at each of these firms, but with that said, there is still value in looking at differences. To allow for this comparison, I forecast out breakeven revenues five years from now, and estimated the growth that each company would need over the five years to justify its current market cap. Not surprisingly, Aramco can get to its breakeven revenues in year 5 with almost no growth (0.59% growth rate) but &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Tesla+company+profile&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Tesla&lt;/a&gt; needs to deliver revenue growth of 86.4% to break even. Broadcom, another company that has benefited from the market&#39;s zeal for AI, has the next highest cliff to climb &amp;nbsp;in terms of revenue growth. In fact, for all of the Mag Seven stocks, growth has to 15% or higher to breakeven, a challenge given their scale and size. &amp;nbsp;In dollar value terms, three companies will need to get to breakeven revenues that exceed one trillion by year 5 to breakeven, Apple, Amazon and Tesla, but the first two are already more than a third of the way to their breakeven targets, but Tesla has a long, long way to go.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;From Breakeven Revenues to Investment Action&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;While some are more comfortable replacing conventional intrinsic valuation, where you estimate value and compare it to price, with a breakeven assessment, the truth is that the two approaches are born out of the same intent.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Economics of Breakeven Revenues&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The model that I used to compute breakeven revenues is a vastly simplified version of a full equity valuation model, but even in its simplified form, you can see the drivers of breakeven revenues.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Market Capitalization&lt;/u&gt;: Since we work back from market capitalization to estimate breakeven revenues, the larger the market capitalization, holding all else constant, the greater the breakeven revenues will be. Using just Nvidia as an example, the company has seen its market capitalization rise from less than $400 billion in 2021, to $1 trillion in 2023, $2 trillion and $3 trillion thresholds in 2024 and crossed the $4 trillion and $ 5 trillion market cap levels in 2025. As the market cap has risen, the breakeven revenues have increased from $200 billion at the $1 trillion mark to $600 billion at the current market cap.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Operating Profitability&lt;/u&gt;: There are two profitability metrics in the drivers, with net margins determining how much of the revenues a company can convert to profits and the return on equity driving the reinvestment needed to sustain growth. Higher profitability will allow a company to deliver a higher market capitalization, at any given level of revenues. One reason manufacturing firms like Tesla will need higher breakeven revenues than software firms is that the unit economics are not as favorable.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Interest rates and equity risk premiums&lt;/u&gt;: The level of interest rates and equity risk premiums determine the cost of equity for all company, with higher values for the latter pushing up the costs of equity for riskier companies higher, relative to safer companies.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Operating and leverage risk&lt;/u&gt;: The riskiness in a business will push its cost of equity higher, and a higher debt load (relative to market cap) will have the same effect. A higher cost of equity will raise the breakeven revenues needed to deliver the same market capitalization.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;In sum, while the breakeven revenue that you need to justify a given market cap always increases as the market cap increases, its level and rate of rise will be governed by business economics.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The 3Ps: Possible, Plausible,&amp;nbsp;and Probable&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Replacing a conventional intrinsic valuation with a breakeven revenue analysis still leaves open the final investment question of whether that breakeven revenue is a number that you are comfortable with, as an investor. To address this question, I will draw on a &amp;nbsp;structure that I use for intrinsic valuation, where I put my assessment through what I&lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2019/09/insights-on-vc-pricing-lessons-from.html&quot;&gt; call the 3P test&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhicdBpDYdwHfe5jICgZtTd8iLABtloXVqaGVd6bSfL0j6TaN1rH7zDODxPn8tfIOt6ayBo8bs0Dc1SK7be1tnuuweeB9wCCeJnkmX_WVxtkNEaQqi417ilUhhlvZ5BV6yr6Oncakq4OCBCqKPf4Fr4g3fvXASAipvGDuPJK_A272eto6TmaHQteJOYAlY/s1556/3PTestRevenues.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;734&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1556&quot; height=&quot;189&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhicdBpDYdwHfe5jICgZtTd8iLABtloXVqaGVd6bSfL0j6TaN1rH7zDODxPn8tfIOt6ayBo8bs0Dc1SK7be1tnuuweeB9wCCeJnkmX_WVxtkNEaQqi417ilUhhlvZ5BV6yr6Oncakq4OCBCqKPf4Fr4g3fvXASAipvGDuPJK_A272eto6TmaHQteJOYAlY/w400-h189/3PTestRevenues.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is possible that once you compute the breakeven revenues for a firm and measure it up against reality that it is impossible, i.e., a fairy tale. The most obvious case is when the breakeven revenues that you compute for your firm exceeds the total market for the products or services that it provides. If there is a lesson that tech companies learned in the last decade, it was in making the total addressable market (TAM) for their market into almost an art form, adding zeros and converting billion dollar markets into trillion dollar TAMs. &amp;nbsp;If you pass the &quot;it is possible&quot; test, you enter the plausibility zone, and nuance and business economics enter the picture more fully. Thus, assuming that a luxury retailer with sky-high margins and small revenues, by staying with a niche market, can increase its revenues ten-fold, while keeping margins intact, is implausible, as is a net margin of 40% in stable growth for a company with gross margins that are barely above that number. Finally, assuming that revenues can multiply over time, without reinvesting in acquisitions or projects to deliver those revenues are also pushing the boundaries of what is plausible. Once breakeven revenues pass the possible and plausible tests, you should be on more familiar ground as you look at the entire story line for the company, and assess whether the combination of growth, profitability and reinvestment that you are assuming with your story has a reasonable probability of being delivered.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To apply these tests, consider Nvidia and Tesla. Nvidia needs about $590&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;billion in revenues by 2030 to break even at its current market capitalization of $4.3 trillion, requiring a growth rate in revenues of about 26% for the next five years. While that is a reach, it is both possible and plausible, with continued growth in the AI chip market and a dominant market share for Nvidia providing the pathway. It is on the probable test that you run into headwinds, since competition is heating up, and that will put pressure on both growth and margins. The problem for Tesla is that if the net margin stays low (at 5.31%), the revenues needed to breakeven exceed $2.2 trillion, and even with robotics and automated driving thrown into the business mix, you are pushing the limits of possibility. A Tesla optimist, though, would argue that these new businesses, when they arrive, will bring much higher net margins, which, in turn, will push down breakeven revenues and bring it into plausible territory.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Aggregated 3P Test - Big Market Delusion&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;We tend to ask the 3P question at the company level with the companies that we choose to invest in (and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;like), but as we construct what look like plausible and probable stories for these companies, and invest in them accordingly, there are other investors are asking the same questions about the companies that they invest in, many of which compete in the same business as yours. That may sound unexceptional to you, but when the market that these companies are competing in is very large and still in formation, you can end up with what I described almost a decade ago as the big market delusion. In a &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3501688&quot;&gt;paper on the topic&lt;/a&gt;, I used the dot.com boom, the cannabis stock surge and online advertising as case studies to explain how this behavior is a feature of big markets&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiP4ebvLxnDIRT7V2PTxncF4lzJrYQ55aPgMl_x_N6t3E2RwmbGK2KfUY4QSytc0t4XxPMqQGr6ioNstAznohKydhZi2KzknC_Euifcat9FuoyPJcohiuBvCvDMf2Ox7cHwGPwaZC3T43Af0aALZb-Ye3rMo0dWn37v-eMy1E5axi9NJgGYYugTvIIWplI/s1462/BigMarketDelusion.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1116&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1462&quot; height=&quot;305&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiP4ebvLxnDIRT7V2PTxncF4lzJrYQ55aPgMl_x_N6t3E2RwmbGK2KfUY4QSytc0t4XxPMqQGr6ioNstAznohKydhZi2KzknC_Euifcat9FuoyPJcohiuBvCvDMf2Ox7cHwGPwaZC3T43Af0aALZb-Ye3rMo0dWn37v-eMy1E5axi9NJgGYYugTvIIWplI/w400-h305/BigMarketDelusion.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The AI storyline clearly fits the big market delusion. There is talk of a &quot;huge&quot; market for AI products and services, with little to show as tangible evidence of that market’s existence right now, and that potential has drawn massive investments in AI architecture from tech companies. Along the way investors have also fallen under the spell of the big market, and have pushed up the market capitalizations of almost every company in the space. Using the language of breakeven revenues, investors in each of these companies is attributing large breakeven revenues to their chosen companies, but the delusion comes from the reality that if you aggregated these breakeven revenues across companies, the market is not big enough to sustain all of them. In short, each company passed the possible and plausible test, but in the aggregate, you are chasing an impossible target.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; While the big market delusion is at play in every aspect of AI, one segment where it is most visible right now is in the Large Language Models (LLM) space, where high profile players like &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=ChatGPT+Large+Language+Model&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;, Gemini, Grok and Claude are vying for users, and their creators are being rewarded with nosebleed pricing. OpenAI, while still unlisted, has used the early lead that ChatGPT gave it in the LLM race to attract investments from a host of big tech companies (including Nvidia and Amazon) and venture capitalists, with the most recent investors &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/02/openai-share-sale-500-billion-valuation.html&quot;&gt;pricing it at $500 billion&lt;/a&gt;, an astonishing number, given that the company reported revenues of only $13 billion in the most recent twelve months. Anthropic, the creator of Claude, has seen its pricing jump in the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/18/anthropic-ai-azure-microsoft-nvidia.html&quot;&gt;most recent funding round (from Microsoft and Nvidia in November 2025) to $350 billion&lt;/a&gt;, fifty times its revenues of $7 billion in the last twelve months. Elon Musk&#39;s owners stake in xAI, Grok&#39;s originator, was&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/25/musk-xai-funding-december.html&quot;&gt; estimated to be worth $230 billion&lt;/a&gt; in November 2025, again an immense multiple of its revenues of $3.2 billion (if you include combined revenues with X). Expanding the list to the large tech companies, it is undeniable that some of Alphabet&#39;s massive rise in market capitalization in 2025 is because of its ownership of Gemini, and that Meta (with Llama) and Amazon (with Nova) have also seen bumps in market capitalization. Finally, while Deepseek is no longer making headlines, it is also in the space, competing for business. In the aggregate, LLM ownership is being priced at $1.5 trillion or more, and the collective revenues, even generously defined, are less than $100 billion. It is entirely plausible that a big market exists for LLMs, and that one or even two of the players in this space will be winners, but in the aggregate, the market is overreaching.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Management Effect&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;The mechanics of the breakeven revenue process may make it seem like managers are bystanders in the process and that investing can be on autopilot, but they are not. In fact, when market capitalizations rise, and breakeven revenues run well ahead of current revenues, I would argue that management matters more than ever. Going back to the breakeven revenues that we computed for the twelve largest market cap companies in the world, I would make the case that management matters much less (if at all) in Aramco and Berkshire Hathway, where breakeven revenues are close to current revenues, and the investments needed to deliver those revenues have already been made, that at the companies that still have steep climbs ahead of them to get to breakeven revenues.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In this context, I will reemphasize a concern that I raised at the height of Meta&#39;s metaverse investing fiasco, which is that investors at many tech companies, including most on the large cap list, have given up their corporate governance rights, often voluntarily (through the acceptance of shares with different voting rights), to founders and top management in these companies. When traditional corporate governance mechanisms break down, and top managers have unchecked power, there is an increased risk of overreach. That concern is multiplied in the LLM space, where &lt;a data-preview=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?ved=1t:260882&amp;amp;q=Sam+Altman+OpenAI+CEO&amp;amp;bbid=8152901575140311047&amp;amp;bpid=7632903359064770058&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Sam Altman&lt;/a&gt; (at OpenAI) and Elon Musk (at xAI) are more emperors than CEOs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Investing Bottomline&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I started this post with mentions of market cap thresholds being breached, as the market pricing pushes up into the trillions for some of the biggest stock market winners. But what are the implications for investors?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Highly priced ≠ Overpriced&lt;/u&gt;: If you are an investor who considers any highly priced company to be overvalued, I hope that this post leads you to reconsider. By reframing a pricing in terms of breakeven revenues, profitability and reinvestment, it allows you to consider whether a stock, even if priced at $4 trillion, may still be a good buy.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The 3P test&lt;/u&gt;: Once you compute the operating metrics you need to breakeven on an investment in a highly priced company, passing those metrics through the 3P test (Is it possible? Is it plausible? Is it probable?) allows you to examine each company on its merits and potential, rather than use a broad brush or a rule of thumb (based on PE ratios or revenue multiples).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Room to disagree&lt;/u&gt;: I have never understood why, even if you believe strongly that a stock is over or under priced, that you need to evangelize that belief or contest people with alternate views. I think that the pathway that you would need (in terms of revenue growth and profitability) to justify Nvidia&#39;s and OpenAI&#39;s current pricing is improbable, but that is just my view, and it is entirely possible that you have an alternate perspective, leading to the conclusion that they are undervalued.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Reality checks&lt;/u&gt;: No matter what your view, optimistic or pessimistic, you have to be open to changing your mind, as you are faced with data. Thus, if you have priced a company to deliver 20% growth in revenues over the next five years (to break even) and actual revenues growth comes in at 10%, you have to be willing to revisit your story, admit that you were wrong, and adapt.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you came into this post, expecting a definitive answer on whether Nvidia is overpriced, you are probably disappointed, but I hope that you use the breakeven spreadsheet to good effect to make up your own mind.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/hscEYvWELPk?si=mabc7p7uXPRTRChz&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/MktCapBreakeven.xlsx&quot;&gt;Breakeven Revenue, given market capitalization&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/7632903359064770058/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/7632903359064770058' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7632903359064770058'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7632903359064770058'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/12/trillion-dollar-market-caps-fairy-tale.html' title='Trillion Dollar Market Caps: Fairy Tale Pricing or Business Marvels?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg716MpqLDZNr4GWgqWne8Hc59ic1A-Wid_c6rEviMZOc9o641d40ccgrHjyIskKR-eys1yQEueteAxouRApeCJs-WjeCot319m197MU81XOnbgJ6hgg1VmY87G49HPZb7L4oSsmpRnBNS53w1Kovc7iCf4Ww41HeMbA6T6D8weGPXIQexTA8lg6fBCTNY/s72-w446-h67-c/MktCapThresholdHistory.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total><georss:featurename>San Diego, CA, USA</georss:featurename><georss:point>32.715738 -117.1610838</georss:point><georss:box>1.5236949601950442 -152.3173338 63.907781039804959 -82.0048338</georss:box></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5514466689382930256</id><published>2025-11-06T16:23:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2025-11-06T16:23:41.799-05:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Collectibles"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Gold"/><title type='text'>A Golden Year (2025): Gold&#39;s Price Surge - The Signal in the Noise!</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I grew up in India in a time where if you had wealth, your investment options were limited. A stock market with sparse listings, accompanied by a lack of trust in financial assets, led investors to put their wealth into tangible assets. Real estate was the most common choice but gold was a strong competitor, though investments in the latter often took the form of jewelry and ornaments. As financial markets have gained dominance across the globe, especially so in the last four decades, gold has retreated to the background, with lagging returns in most years. In 2025, as stock and bond markets climbed walls of worry almost nonchalantly to reach new highs, gold has also been a surprisingly big winner, building on a recovery that started in 2022 to crest $4000 an ounce in October 2025. For long term proponents of investing in gold, this has been vindication, but even for investors who have never held gold in their portfolios, there is a message from the gold&#39;s rise that they ignore at their own peril. I must confess that I have never felt the draw of gold, and have never held it in my portfolio, but I have always been fascinated by the hold that gold has on some investors, and the reasons for its longevity. In this post, I will start by first positioning gold in the investment continuum and then examining its price movements, both in 2025 and with a longer term perspective, to get a handle on the drivers of these movements, before looking at how gold may fit in investment portfolios.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Gold: Commodity, Currency or Collectible?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I have argued that all investments can be classified into one of four groups - &lt;b&gt;assets&lt;/b&gt;, with expected cashflows, either contractual (fixed income) or residual, &lt;b&gt;commodities&lt;/b&gt;, which derive their value from use as inputs into production of other products or services,&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;currencies&lt;/b&gt;, used as mediums of exchange and stores of value, and &lt;b&gt;collectibles&lt;/b&gt;, held for their scarcity and enduring demand. This categorization matters because it provides a starting point for discussions of how to attach prices to each:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXmr1Pfa3E_BybOjZgpQlKP4UvU13ok2pxtDgsiPTf9eNpZ1IExWIk0fO51_fRqcPE8vr6MyZIhkNg3hJsMyLtwM2kcrXw5SV85d8PakN894ab6mKxrvqIdzrJaWC359Rqx_3mDIEm6e04_I6BMtjqRCe6MJVy5RMCrcsy2QzneZy1cMEdeueXpIZ94QA/s1578/InvTypeExpanded.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1118&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1578&quot; height=&quot;284&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXmr1Pfa3E_BybOjZgpQlKP4UvU13ok2pxtDgsiPTf9eNpZ1IExWIk0fO51_fRqcPE8vr6MyZIhkNg3hJsMyLtwM2kcrXw5SV85d8PakN894ab6mKxrvqIdzrJaWC359Rqx_3mDIEm6e04_I6BMtjqRCe6MJVy5RMCrcsy2QzneZy1cMEdeueXpIZ94QA/w400-h284/InvTypeExpanded.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With assets, you can estimate value based on expected cash flows and risk. but you also price them based upon demand and supply. With commodities like oil or iron ore, you may be able to estimate value, based upon aggregated demand and supply, but it is far more likely that pricing will dominate. With currencies and collectibles, the absence of expected cash flows makes pricing the only option, making mood and momentumkey variables determining pricing direction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;o assess gold as an investment, we need to first start by classifying it and while it is not an asset, it can or has been a currency, a commodity and a collectible at different points in history and in different forms.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is an &lt;b&gt;inefficient currency&lt;/b&gt;, and while there are undoubtedly transactions where gold coins have been used as tender, difficulties associated with checking authenticity, security and breaking down into small units have limited its use through history.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It &lt;b&gt;can be used as a commodity&lt;/b&gt;, as is the case when it is used to make jewelry or statues (or in tooth fillings), but even when used in this context, it is often held more for its value as a collectible than for aesthetic reasons.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It &lt;b&gt;is as a collectible that gold has stood out&lt;/b&gt;, with governments, banks and individuals attaching value to it over time.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Thus, it is safe to say that it is gold&#39;s role as a collectible that has driven its pricing over time. To the question of &quot;so what&quot;, there are implications that follow almost immediately, and that will animate our discussion of gold&#39;s performance in 2025:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Since gold, absent cash flows, cannot be valued, arguing &lt;b&gt;whether gold is under or over valued is a pointless one&lt;/b&gt;, just as it is for bitcoin. In fact, if your investment philosophy is strictly tethered to finding investments that are under valued by the market, gold will not have a place in your portfolio, explaining Warren Buffett&#39;s long standing aversion to it, as an investment. It is worth noting that Berkshire Hathaway did invest in Barrick Gold, but an investment in a gold mining company has expected cash flows and is thus an asset.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Gold is priced every day, and that &lt;b&gt;pricing process is driven by demand and supply&lt;/b&gt;, and while we will outline macro variables that can affect one or both, it is ultimately a process where mood and momentum will carry the day.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Without doubt, gold is one of the longest standing collectibles, predating and outliving its competitors. So, what is it that explains gold&#39;s durability as a collectible? The following factors come into play, and in the process of assessing them, we can get some insight into gold&#39;s enduring standing:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Scarcity&lt;/u&gt;: The supply of gold is not fixed, since more gold can be extracted, but it is finite. At the start of 2025, there were approximately 244,000 metric tons of gold in the world, held in a variety of forms (jewelry, gold bars &amp;amp; coins etc.). While gold production in 2024 amounted added 3,000 tons to this quantity, it is estimated that that there about 60,000 metric tons of gold that are still in reserves. That puts it in a sweet spot between elements like platinum that are too scarce (about 10,000 metric tons) to be widely held, and more difficult to extract, and elements that are too plentiful to hold their value.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Durability&lt;/u&gt;: For a collectible to hold its value, it has to be durable, and one of the reasons that gold acquired its collectible status is because it is chemically stable, malleable and does not oxidize or corrode (when it comes into contact with acids and other agents).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Desirability&lt;/u&gt;: There is something about gold that exerts a hold on human beings. From the Greek myth of Midas, the king whose touch turned everything to gold, to the legend of El Dorado, a city made of gold, that led the Spanish to cross the ocean to seek it out in South America, gold has driven narratives and altered history.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Clearly, gold is not the only collectible, but almost every collectible, starting with other precious metals, moving to fine art and even Pokemon cards can be assessed on these three dimensions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Gold: A Pricing Perspective&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Gold has a long history in investing, and the best to way to understand where we are right now is to look back at that history. As you look back at up and down years, we can start to make sense of the fundamentals that drive gold prices, as well as the noise added by sentiment and momentum to the pricing process.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;A Usage History&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Gold has been viewed as precious by civilizations going back millennia, with evidence of usage in the form of coins going back to the Lydian civilization, located in Turkey in 600 BC, with the Greeks and the Romans following. In South America, where gold was abundant, it was more likely to have ceremonial or spiritual value, crafted into ornaments, ritual objects and artifacts, and it was only after the Spanish conquistadors arrived that gold acquired monetary status. In Asia, gold coins can be traced back to the Qin dynasty in China in 2500 BC, and to India and South East Asia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It is worth noting that for centuries, the issuers (governments and kingdom) of fiat currencies tied them to gold to get skeptical populaces to hold them. In the eighteenth century, this linkage was formalized in the gold standard, where paper currency issuance was backed by holdings in gold, with paper money convertible into gold. &amp;nbsp;England adopted a de facto bimetallic (silver and gold) standard in the early 1700s, but a miscalculation by Isaac Newton on the silver/gold ratio, where silver was overpriced relative to gold, made it a gold standard. While England did not formally adopt the gold standard until 1818, the United States, at its birth as a country, and eager to have its new currency (the dollar) be accepted, followed England’s model, with a brief break during the civil war in the 1860s.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;In the second half of the nineteenth century, the gold standard became the base for most major currencies, but two events in the early twentieth century put it to the test. During the First World War, governments in need of money to fund their armies found their hands tied by the constraints of gold, and many were forced to abandon convertibility and the gold standard. The United States stayed with the gold standard into the Great Depression, with some economists blaming the Fed’s actions trying to defend it for worsening the economic collapse. In the face of crisis, individuals rushed to convert dollars to gold, leading to the halting of convertibility and an effective end to a true Gold Standard. After the Second World War, the United States emerged as the economic superpower, and with the Bretton-Woods agreement, the US dollar took the place of gold at the center of the global monetary system, with the dollar convertible to gold at a fixed price. That system held until the early seventies, but broke down as the dollar deflated, and in 1971, it was officially abandoned. While central banks continue to hold gold, the gold standard is now dead, though there are some who seek a return to the system, with its enforced discipline and rigidity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;A Pricing History&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;As we noted at the start of this post, gold has had quite a run in 2025, as you can see in the chart below, where we traces it daily price movements during the year:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi9Z8f9O9Zly5drtkqrNej4eCUFS_Lejgfas2Aq3Mzm-ObOU7bpYfgLwg0Ebi707qP1XiNfRgdQFKf6Q_3m-XjlXQlkTAwywE6HGX4DAgp6YyPYe_ohgDlOGldU_erezh01CyAH6yL6f87ixWOL_tQjipYApN6eXlEJfHpZY6JscoEwWAfha4mJy70IUfM/s1084/GodlShortTerm.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;791&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1084&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi9Z8f9O9Zly5drtkqrNej4eCUFS_Lejgfas2Aq3Mzm-ObOU7bpYfgLwg0Ebi707qP1XiNfRgdQFKf6Q_3m-XjlXQlkTAwywE6HGX4DAgp6YyPYe_ohgDlOGldU_erezh01CyAH6yL6f87ixWOL_tQjipYApN6eXlEJfHpZY6JscoEwWAfha4mJy70IUfM/w400-h293/GodlShortTerm.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Through October 24, 2025, gold prices are up 57% for the year, posting significant increases every quarter of the year. To provide perspective on how this year measures up against history, we looked at the percentage change in gold prices every year going back to 1963.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOpl55Wg3BvHdYsYBtbT07yCpTmGg-GJL6lhIRnfK0fKmXIdD8x5h8mzwTY5eW4nrLw5iED6-nIuYpFp2rjepcm8vMvJrh7NHjhOAwN_NWPXqnLsf-kX5jF_-7tY7kAKlPLT2ySIckBV4Qc9rEWw03VUWnjynN5jUcuIni89CfRfTAY0m_VXmy3eihdAY/s959/GoldMediumTerm.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;698&quot; data-original-width=&quot;959&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOpl55Wg3BvHdYsYBtbT07yCpTmGg-GJL6lhIRnfK0fKmXIdD8x5h8mzwTY5eW4nrLw5iED6-nIuYpFp2rjepcm8vMvJrh7NHjhOAwN_NWPXqnLsf-kX5jF_-7tY7kAKlPLT2ySIckBV4Qc9rEWw03VUWnjynN5jUcuIni89CfRfTAY0m_VXmy3eihdAY/w400-h291/GoldMediumTerm.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Gold has had its ups and downs over time, with a surge in prices in the late 1970s, with the very best and very worst years in terms of returns occurring within two years of each other; gold prices were up 133% in 1979 and down 32.15% in 1981. Inflation was the culprit, and while we will take a closer look at it in the next section, we also computed the gold price in inflation-adjusted terms in the graph, and on October 24, 2025, that inflation-adjusted price also hit an all time high, using year-end prices. In the graph, you will notice that the gold price was stagnant before 1971, largely because of the convertibility of US dollars into gold. After the Bretton Woods agreement established the US dollar as the international reserve currency, the United States agreed to back it up by agreeing to convert US dollars at $35 an ounce, andgold prices (at least in dollar terms) stayed tethered to that price. In 1971, the United States abandoned that backing, and gold prices have been set by demand and supply since.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Drivers of gold prices&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There is a route that can be used to estimate the &quot;fundamental&quot; value of a commodity by gauging the demand for the commodity (based on its uses) and the supply. While that may work, at least in principle, for industrial commodities, it is tough to put into practice with precious metals in general, and gold because the demand is not driven primarily by practical uses.   While gold does not have an intrinsic value, there are at least three factors historically that have influenced the price of gold- inflation, fear of crises and real interest rates.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;1. Inflation&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;If as is commonly argued, gold is an alternative to paper currency, the price of gold will be determined by how much trust individuals have in paper currency. Thus, it is widely believed that if the value of paper currency is debased by inflation, gold will gain in value. To see if the widely held view of gold as a hedge against inflation has a basis, we looked at changes in gold prices and the inflation rate each year from 1963-2024 in the figure below:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkN52WmcM8GSSGl2IXqc4V7soWVYn9MoGxwvlNkZ_hz13StPHMzHvgj8awo-_zulqm1dXgpTTBoLlz1NdzIU41XHYXYay79K7osyhHZl0rRmtGkAt10m5HOCHXB1mfL3eGe2n4oIwrnG7V27mCoXF6TP5xSHKMatpaAJq6SKEEdoh3_sSkUjn2YlF_1PU/s962/GoldvsInflationChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;707&quot; data-original-width=&quot;962&quot; height=&quot;294&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkN52WmcM8GSSGl2IXqc4V7soWVYn9MoGxwvlNkZ_hz13StPHMzHvgj8awo-_zulqm1dXgpTTBoLlz1NdzIU41XHYXYay79K7osyhHZl0rRmtGkAt10m5HOCHXB1mfL3eGe2n4oIwrnG7V27mCoXF6TP5xSHKMatpaAJq6SKEEdoh3_sSkUjn2YlF_1PU/w400-h294/GoldvsInflationChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; orphans: auto; text-align: center; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0.25in; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The co-movement of gold and inflation is strongest in the 1970s, a decade where the US economy was plagued by high inflation and the correlation between gold prices and the inflation rate is brought home, when you regress returns on gold against the inflation rate for the entire period:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #222222; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; font-size: 13pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;% Change in Gold price = -0.06 + 3.92 (Inflation rate)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot; style=&quot;color: #222222; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; font-size: 13pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;R squared = 18.8%&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While this regression does back the conventional view of gold as an inflation hedge, there are two potential weak spots.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The first is that the R-squared is only 19%, suggesting that factors other than inflation have a significant effect on gold prices.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The second is that removing the 1970s essentially removes much of the significance from this regression. In fact, while the large move in gold prices in the 1970s can be explained by unexpectedly high inflation during the decade, the rise of gold prices between 2001 and 2012 cannot be attributed to inflation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;To get a cleaner look at the interaction between gold and inflation, we looked at the percentage change in gold prices, by decade, and contrasted it with the returns on stocks, bills, bonds and real estate in the table below:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgjr6FyrqxlSkaqUsmwMeWw4fq2zkQe96a1JMkJ9IJOOvKCWo_cLnq1-rO3BmZAIALSLxrQ6g_DvhHM7ZGTVX3uUwHZX4NuQjiANUY3WkoHjHQqswmsHIB2tfX25ExOHKZ48RF9ah6rBFZjT85dsvo2sinjTVw9951viBJJUDLF3WeDsfSYHG9ZmWfBaAw/s653/AssetReturnsbyDecade.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;180&quot; data-original-width=&quot;653&quot; height=&quot;110&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgjr6FyrqxlSkaqUsmwMeWw4fq2zkQe96a1JMkJ9IJOOvKCWo_cLnq1-rO3BmZAIALSLxrQ6g_DvhHM7ZGTVX3uUwHZX4NuQjiANUY3WkoHjHQqswmsHIB2tfX25ExOHKZ48RF9ah6rBFZjT85dsvo2sinjTVw9951viBJJUDLF3WeDsfSYHG9ZmWfBaAw/w400-h110/AssetReturnsbyDecade.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Gold has three standout decades - 1971-1980, 2001-2010 and the last five years (2021-2025), with unexpectedly high inflation being the driver of returns in the first and third instances. Gold&#39;s surge in the 2001 to 2010 time period can be attributed partially to the 2008 crisis, but gold had several good years leading into the crisis. If there is one finding that we can glean from this data, gold is more a hedge against extreme (and unexpected) movements in inflation and does not really provide much protection against smaller inflation changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;2. Fear of Crises&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;    &lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Through the centuries, gold has been the safe haven for investors fleeing a crisis. Thus, as investor fears ebb and flow, gold prices should go up and down. To test this effect, we used two forward-looking measures of investor fears – the &lt;b&gt;default spread on a Baa-rated bond and the implied equity risk premium &lt;/b&gt;(which is a forward looking premium, computed based upon stock prices and expected cash flows). As investor fears increase, you should expect to see these risk premiums in both the equity and the bond market increase, and gold to rise in concurrence. The figure below summarizes the risk premiums in financial markets (bond default spreads and equity risk premiums) and gold returns each year from 1963 to 2024:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; break-after: avoid; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; orphans: auto; text-align: center; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0.25in; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;margin: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEheimRyBb5aXfWXvcYbk5dm76R8iMMbcGgdSqq2MadT8xRjajL0flcX-Rb5SaMf-eFUBIj0Oazg3T7KIlcWQ96csCUFWvO1E6Iq3X3bXu7OrePmxf4VG_gVWjrHQpa08q3Zf9H8-kbsHsUPjKTceOOi1PoUQj-vogZRu3-FrNR_ek9eosci3LJTlseskm0/s1178/GoldCrisisChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;845&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1178&quot; height=&quot;288&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEheimRyBb5aXfWXvcYbk5dm76R8iMMbcGgdSqq2MadT8xRjajL0flcX-Rb5SaMf-eFUBIj0Oazg3T7KIlcWQ96csCUFWvO1E6Iq3X3bXu7OrePmxf4VG_gVWjrHQpa08q3Zf9H8-kbsHsUPjKTceOOi1PoUQj-vogZRu3-FrNR_ek9eosci3LJTlseskm0/w400-h288/GoldCrisisChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While the relationship is harder to decipher than the one with inflation, higher equity risk premiums correlate with higher gold prices, but only barely. Again, regressing annual returns on gold against these two measures separately, we get:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;% Change in Gold Price = -0.13 + 5.21 (ERP) &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;R squared = 5.02%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;% Change in Gold Price = 0.13 -1.32 (Baa Rate - T.Bond Rate) &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;R squared = 0.20%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;These regressions suggest little or no relationship between bond default spreads and gold prices, but a modest positive relationship, albeit one with substantial noise, between gold prices and equity risk premiums. Thus, gold prices seem to move more with fear in the equity markets than with concerns in the bond market, with every 1% increase in the equity risk premium translating into an increase of 5.21% in gold prices. As with inflation, though, gold&#39;s protective role in crises seems to be greatest during potentially catastrophic economic events, giving it the patina as a crisis hedge.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; margin: 12pt 0in 0in; orphans: auto; text-align: justify; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0in; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;3. Real interest rates&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;One of the costs of holding gold is that while you hold it, you lose the return you could have made investing it in a financial asset, dividends on stocks and coupons on bonds. The magnitude of this opportunity cost is captured by the real interest rate, with higher real interest rates translating into much higher opportunity costs and thus lower prices for gold. The real interest rate can be measured directly used the inflation indexed treasury bond (TIPs) rate or indirectly by netting out the expected inflation from a nominal risk free (or close to risk free) rate. The figure below summarizes real interest rates and gold price changes on a year-by-year basis from 1963 to 2023:&lt;/div&gt;    &lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgly9wXDMoNTod0Ih4LlMkJ6HVgNsYncWxZOevFJOz_SIrljiTvlcKkSss7zQNl15PfwZjPbZdfNmPWCxMp1wrK-JA4JbU1bSPuRPk0mSdqiApnrqWUSah_4fDscvbVnHDLbUfA505LVpq5cxgOgvjvWso7o8WkVCmIwAXv3JAqgkWeKz8a7eWObs43QYQ/s1180/GoldRealReturns.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;853&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1180&quot; height=&quot;289&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgly9wXDMoNTod0Ih4LlMkJ6HVgNsYncWxZOevFJOz_SIrljiTvlcKkSss7zQNl15PfwZjPbZdfNmPWCxMp1wrK-JA4JbU1bSPuRPk0mSdqiApnrqWUSah_4fDscvbVnHDLbUfA505LVpq5cxgOgvjvWso7o8WkVCmIwAXv3JAqgkWeKz8a7eWObs43QYQ/w400-h289/GoldRealReturns.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; break-after: avoid; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; margin: 0in; orphans: auto; text-align: center; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0.25in; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that the TIPs rate is available only for the two decades and that the real interest rate is computed as the difference between the ten-year US treasury bond rate in that year and the realized inflation rate (rather than the expected inflation rate). 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&lt;/style&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;High real interest rates are negative for gold prices and low real interest rates, or negative real interest rates, push gold prices higher.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Bottom line&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Gold is often touted as a hedge against inflation and crises, but the evidence from history is nuanced. With inflation, it is a better hedge against unexpected inflation than expected inflation, and even with unexpected inflation, only for increases that put inflation above normal bounds. In short, it is a hedge against hyper inflation. With crises as well, the evidence is mixed, since gold prices are, for the most part, unaffected by movements in equity and bond risk measures that fall within historical bounds, but increase during risk events that are uncommon and potentially catastrophic. Investors who add gold to their portfolios because of the protection it offers should recognize it more akin to buying insurance against extreme events, and more useful if the bulk of their wealth is in financial assets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Is gold expensive, correctly priced or cheap?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;Knowing that gold prices move with inflation, equity risk premiums and real interest rates is useful, but it still does not help us answer the fundamental question of whether gold prices today are too high or low. Can you price gold against other investments or itself?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;apple-converted-space&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #222222; font-size: 13pt;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;The answer is yes, though the results are often noisy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;A. Against inflation&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;In companion papers, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nber.org/papers/w18706&quot;&gt;Erb and Harvey&lt;/a&gt; examined the relationship between gold prices and inflation.&amp;nbsp;In these papers, the price of gold is related to the CPI index and a ratio of gold prices to the CPI index is computed. In the first of these papers, they argued that in the very long term, gold prices increase at roughly the inflation rate, but in the second, they do question that hypothesis. We try to replicate their findings and we use the US Department of Labor CPI index for all items (and all urban consumers) set to a base of 100 in 1982-84, but with data going back to 1947. The level of the index in December 2023 was 308.742. Dividing the gold price of $4118/oz on October 24, 2025, by the CPI index level of 324.80, on that day, yields a value of 17.81. To get a measure of whether that number is high or low, we computed it every year going back to 1963 in the figure below&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in 0in 0in 0.5in; text-align: center; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: center; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjY4gv-Jk9OQ8CfFNAAAITelKdTWeYNE3BUxnIvR0dwLwcuNS-QnWwRV1NTrKHawFlDyXJoiULV0j4oWLBDRAl0JWy3GTchpyUkktZUPzsn6SQStWnZC39f8OqHRg7N2w3o0RFJT7RhixpmogBLUIJBLTbG4norhRaNO9fLEIj9Xz3OmTt-xTjVJxEqy-Y/s958/GoldCPI.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;702&quot; data-original-width=&quot;958&quot; height=&quot;293&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjY4gv-Jk9OQ8CfFNAAAITelKdTWeYNE3BUxnIvR0dwLwcuNS-QnWwRV1NTrKHawFlDyXJoiULV0j4oWLBDRAl0JWy3GTchpyUkktZUPzsn6SQStWnZC39f8OqHRg7N2w3o0RFJT7RhixpmogBLUIJBLTbG4norhRaNO9fLEIj9Xz3OmTt-xTjVJxEqy-Y/w400-h293/GoldCPI.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #222222;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 17.333334px;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;o:p style=&quot;font-size: 13pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;The median value is 2.93 for the 1963-2024 period and 3.77 for the 1971-2024 period. Thus, based purely on the comparison of the current measure of the Gold/CPI ratio to the historical medians does miss the fact that lower interest rates and inflation in the last decade may be skewing the statistics. Consequently, we regressed the Gold/CPI index against equity risk premiums and real interest rates and while real interest rates seem to have little effect on the Gold/CPI ratio, there is strong evidence that it moves with the ERP, increasing (decreasing) as the ERP increases (decreases):&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;Gold Price/ CPI = -1.79 + 123.56 (ERP)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;R Squared = 47.7%&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;The implied equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500 at the start of October 2025 was 4.03%, and plugging that value into the gold/CPI regression yields the following:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #222222; font-size: 13pt;&quot;&gt;Gold/CPI (given ERP of 4.03% on 10/24/25) =&amp;nbsp;-1.79+ 123.56 (.0403) = 3.19&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;Put simply, gold looks overpriced in October 2025, even after correcting for changing equity risk premiums.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;B. Against other precious metals&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;There is another way that you can frame the relative value of gold and that is against other precious metals. For instance, you can price gold, relative to silver, and make a judgment on whether it is cheap or expensive (on a relative basis). At the end of October 2025, the gold price was $4118/oz and the silver price was $47.80/oz, yielding a ratio of 84.73 for gold to silver prices (4118/47.80). To get a measure of where this number stands in a historical context, we looked at the ratio of gold prices to silver prices from 1963 to 2025 in the figure below&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUjGjoV0Tqh9aQsFlFTLc5y_MfiRwdtOGq9t-iuxz6kGgyt9Mle0kPBBQBNlfHdOrFSprNUqoKkZm7fhcSA59QNr9QkwSzOpgaFn0vmDUrMUPTzWbpiUSLky5GzsIxNsLfQB_mnhV83qu2n0iCbBmTCUPKQ00dEyZdbBwn416AeXgvFj90nKmWfSx4Z9k/s965/GoldSilverChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;698&quot; data-original-width=&quot;965&quot; height=&quot;289&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUjGjoV0Tqh9aQsFlFTLc5y_MfiRwdtOGq9t-iuxz6kGgyt9Mle0kPBBQBNlfHdOrFSprNUqoKkZm7fhcSA59QNr9QkwSzOpgaFn0vmDUrMUPTzWbpiUSLky5GzsIxNsLfQB_mnhV83qu2n0iCbBmTCUPKQ00dEyZdbBwn416AeXgvFj90nKmWfSx4Z9k/w400-h289/GoldSilverChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: center; text-indent: 0.25in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #222222; font-size: 13pt;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; margin: 0in; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;The median value of 57.09 over the 1963-2024 period would suggest that gold is overpriced, relative to silver. Given that gold and silver move together more often than they move in opposite directions, we are not sure that this relationship can be mined to address the question of whether gold is fairly priced today, but it can still be the basis for trading across precious metals.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Bottom Line&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The historical data yields two conclusions, albeit at odds with each other. If you believe that history is your best guide for the future and that mean reversion will win out, it is undeniable that gold is overpriced against almost every metric it is usually priced against. In fact, you could argue that the rise of gold prices in the last decade is unprecedented since it has not been accompanied by raging inflation or by big market crises (though there have been economic crises).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;The counter is that using historical data as a guide, gold has been overpriced over the last decade, a period over which its price has increased almost four fold, from $1060/oz at the end of 2015 to $4,118 on October 24, 2025. When an investment stays overpriced for that long, it is legitimate to question whether the pricing metric is flawed, and whether there a structural shift has occurred that has shifted the distribution. In the case of gold, priced on demand and supply, that shift has to be almost entirely on the demand side, since the stock of gold has continued to expand at a slow, but steady pace, during the period, and here are some of the possible reasons:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;More pathways to buying/holding gold&lt;/u&gt;: For centuries, extending into the last century, the only way to invest in gold was to hold it in its physical form, with all of the limitations on making fractional investments and the added transactions/storage costs. The rise of Gold ETFs has reduced or removed both constraints allowing more investors entree into the gold market.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Mistrust of central banks&lt;/u&gt;: Investments in financial assets (stocks and bonds) are a reflection of the trust &amp;nbsp;investors have in central banks and governments, working to preserve the buying power of the currencies that they issue. In the aftermath of central banking activism in the post-2008 period, that trust in central banks and governments has depleted, at least for a segment of the population, leading to a shift on their part to gold (and bitcoin).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;Slippage of the US&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;dollar&lt;/u&gt;: In the aftermath of Bretton Woods, the world adopted the US dollar as a global base currency, with a tether remaining to gold. During that period, central banks held gold, as backup for their currencies, though individuals were restricted or denied the ability to convert currency to gold. Even after the US removed its last formal connection to the gold standard in 1971, the strength of the dollar and the centrality of the US economy allowed investors to use the US dollar as a safe haven currency, as a substitute for gold. It is undeniable that the US economy and dollar have been under stress for the last decade or more, with the ratings downgrade for the US being only a manifestation of these stresses. With no other global currency ready (yet) to take the place of the dollar, you can argue that gold is once again asserting its role as safe haven, and that the rise in its price reflects that status.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Trump effect&lt;/u&gt;: While the first two factors have been in play for decades, this year has seen unusual turmoil, as tariff threats and economic wars threaten to unravel an economic world order that has governed markets and economies for much of the last century. While there are some who will welcome that development, it is not clear what the replacement will be, and the possibility of a catastrophic outcome is perhaps greater than it was a year or two ago, and this too is a positive for gold prices.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;For much of the last century, investors who held gold in their portfolios tended to be a subset of the market, older and more concerned about catastrophes than the rest of us, but it is undeniable that this group now is both larger and drawing in some who would have historically pushed it away.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Investment Consequences&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; With that long lead in, every investor is faced with the question of whether gold fits into their investment portfolios, and the reason for holding it. There are four pathways that an investor can follow with gold, and without any judgment attached, here they are, with the trade offs involved:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Gold as a core investment&lt;/u&gt;: There are some investors who have built their portfolios, with gold as a central component, representing a significant portion of their holdings. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The trade off&lt;/u&gt;: Looking at the last forty years of returns on different investment classes, you can see why making an argument for holding gold as your core investment is so difficult to justify. Gold, with its annual compounded return of 5.35% between 1984 and 2024, would have significantly underperformed an investment in US stocks, that earned a compounded return of 11.38%, a difference that translates into a significant shortfall in ending portfolio value for gold investors; investing in US stocks in 1984 would have generated almost ten times as high an ending value in 2024, as investing an equivalent amount in gold in 1984.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9ucP_G4sOj9kQkJthGsba2HqkkxLRjhpo1yQTXT98M3-E_ITKsjqFEOXGLNNRn7fsWAUJXx_DrA0IvgpaqAOT2U79ksrzD1UH46TVuexyXDo8JK9YYatqiJu_lN_HjrzUOCHS8uxmsn1BKYn6jdRjBBWfEDF5lmhJOqHKmEvud1wugQBGYl3VLOGCE3M/s410/GoldvsStocks.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;146&quot; data-original-width=&quot;410&quot; height=&quot;143&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9ucP_G4sOj9kQkJthGsba2HqkkxLRjhpo1yQTXT98M3-E_ITKsjqFEOXGLNNRn7fsWAUJXx_DrA0IvgpaqAOT2U79ksrzD1UH46TVuexyXDo8JK9YYatqiJu_lN_HjrzUOCHS8uxmsn1BKYn6jdRjBBWfEDF5lmhJOqHKmEvud1wugQBGYl3VLOGCE3M/w400-h143/GoldvsStocks.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In fact, gold has also been a more risky investment, on a stand alone basis, than stocks with a higher standard deviation in annual returns. Does that make gold investors irrational? Not necessarily, because they may define risk in terms of best case and worst case outcomes, and while stock prices, at least in their perspective, have no lower bound, gold has a lower bound value, at least based on history.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The draw&lt;/u&gt;: For investors who have a deep attachment to gold combined with a distrust of financial assets, governments and central banks, the net effect of holding a portfolio dominated by gold is that it improves their odds of passing the sleep test, i.e., they don&#39;t lose sleep wondering how their portfolios are doing. In short, they are willing to accept lower compounded annual returns over the long term in return for the security of holding an investment that they view as timeless.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The choices&lt;/u&gt;: Gold&#39;s standing comes from its long history as a collectible, but it is not the only collectible. Through time, investors have also put their money in precious gems and other metals (silver, platinum), art and collectibles. In fact, some of the rise in cryptos (currencies, tokens and assets) can be attributed to a subset of (mostly younger) investors, who share the distrust of governments and central banks with gold investors, deciding to use bitcoin as an alternative to gold.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Gold as insurance&lt;/u&gt;: For investors with the bulk of their portfolios in financial assets (stocks and bonds), gold holdings can help insure their portfolios, at least partially, against inflation and market/economic crises.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The trade off&lt;/u&gt;: As we noted earlier in the post, gold has been only a weak hedge against inflation and market crises that fall within normal bounds, but has done much better as a edge against hyperinflation and catastrophic market/economic risks. Adding gold to a financial asset dominated portfolio can provide insurance against the latter, but only if held in large enough quantity to make a difference; given the history of stock and gold returns, a gold holding that is 5% of your portfolio will not be enough and you will need a holding closer to 15-20%.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The draw&lt;/u&gt;: All investors should be concerned about catastrophic risks, but it is undeniable that this concern varies across investors, with older and more risk averse investors more inclined to have that concern. It is also true that worries about catastrophes vary over time, increasing across all investors in troubled times.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The choices&lt;/u&gt;: The rise of derivatives markets has increased the choices for investors to buy protection against hyperinflation and catastrophes. Thus, you can use ETFs and options to hedge your portfolio against market collapses, if that is your concern, or shift your investments to other currencies and countries, if your worry is about hyperinflation in the domestic currency.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Gold as a trade&lt;/u&gt;: In trading, the key to winning is &lt;u&gt;timing&lt;/u&gt;, buying when prices are low and selling when they are high, and there are some who make their money on gold by timing its ups and downs well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;T&lt;u&gt;he trade off&lt;/u&gt;: Getting the timing right in trading is easier said that done. While the peaks and bottoms of gold prices are easy to pinpoint in hindsight, it is worth remembering that many investors who became rich riding the gold price boom from 1977-1979 lost it all in next five years. The traders who bought gold in 2022 are riding high, at the moment, after a three-year surge in gold prices, but they too may be looking at disappointment, if they do not cash out at the right time.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The draw&lt;/u&gt;: Trading is a pricing game, and since price is determined more by mood and momentum, success in gold trading comes down to detecting momentum shifts before they occur, and trading on that basis. For some gold traders, this capacity may come from examining charts on gold prices and volume, and for others, it may be in reading the macroeconomic tealeaves, especially on inflation.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The choices&lt;/u&gt;: If trading is your game, the market is ripe with targets, ranging from cryptos in the collective space to meme stocks, and many of these alternatives offer a bigger payoff to trading, since they are more volatile than gold and in some cases, offer more liquidity.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Gold as a signal&lt;/u&gt;: There are many investors who have no desire to own or or are averse to holding gold in their portfolios, but use gold prices as signals of either hyperinflation or economic catastrophes to structure their portfolios.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;T&lt;u&gt;he trade off&lt;/u&gt;: The allure of gold as a signal of inflation and market crises comes from history, where gold prices have tended to rise during periods of high inflation and economic uncertainty. Much of the relationship, though, is contemporaneous, i.e,, gold prices rise in periods when inflation is high and risks surge, and there is only weak evidence of gold prices being a leading indicator of future changes.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The draw&lt;/u&gt;: Since portfolios composed primarily or entirely of financial assets are badly damaged by unexpected inflation or a market meltdown, having a predictor, even a flawed one, that can give advance warning has big payoffs. In particular, if gold prices rising is a signal that inflation will be higher than expected in the future, you could alter your asset allocation, shifting money from stocks and long terms bonds to short term bills and commercial paper, or even your asset selection, moving money from companies that have little pricing power and significant operating risk to companies with substantial pricing power and predictable earnings streams.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;The choices&lt;/u&gt;: Here again, markets offer other choices, with futures markets and forward contracts specifically targeted at predicting inflation or economic and market shocks. Thus, you could use inflation futures to protect against hyper inflation and volatility indicators (like the VIX) to hedge against market crises.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;font-size: medium; text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Bottom Line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Gold has had a good run this year, and I will not begrudge those who got into it early. Some undoubtedly just got lucky to be at the right place at the right time, but some were prescient in detecting a shift in the market vibe, especially in 2025. The truth is that the market for gold has been and always will be a niche market, drawing a subset of investors, but that niche shrinks and expands over time. When the world is stable and times are good, the niche is composed almost entirely of true believers, a mix of conspiracy theorists and doomsday cultists who believe that fiat currencies are more paper than money and that financial asset markets are designed to enrich insiders. In scarier times, the niche expands, drawing in investors who normally invest in stocks and bonds, but decide, either because of distrust of central banks or perceived market bubbles, that they need the safety of gold. While I do not have a ledger listing everyone holding gold in October 2025, I will wager that it includes names that you would normally expect to see in the list. After all, if Jamie Dimon and Ray Dalio actually mean what they say about markets being a bubble, would it not make sense for them to hold gold?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/FdlCocXHnMs?si=Lp9d5-Ne-kf6I3qs&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;Datasets&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;MsoNormal&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify; text-indent: 0in;&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/Goldin2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Gold, Bitcoin and Silver prices in 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/golddata2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Gold, Stocks, Bonds and Real Estate Returns: 1928-2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5514466689382930256/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/5514466689382930256' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5514466689382930256'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5514466689382930256'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/11/a-golden-year-2025-golds-price-surge.html' title='A Golden Year (2025): Gold&#39;s Price Surge - The Signal in the Noise!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXmr1Pfa3E_BybOjZgpQlKP4UvU13ok2pxtDgsiPTf9eNpZ1IExWIk0fO51_fRqcPE8vr6MyZIhkNg3hJsMyLtwM2kcrXw5SV85d8PakN894ab6mKxrvqIdzrJaWC359Rqx_3mDIEm6e04_I6BMtjqRCe6MJVy5RMCrcsy2QzneZy1cMEdeueXpIZ94QA/s72-w400-h284-c/InvTypeExpanded.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5054054542921228018</id><published>2025-10-06T10:02:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2025-10-06T10:03:08.580-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Equity Risk Premiums"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Market Timing"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="PE"/><title type='text'>A “Fairly Highly Valued” Market: A Fed Chair Opines on Stocks, but should we listen?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In December 1996, Alan Greenspan used the words &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.c-span.org/clip/public-affairs-event/user-clip-alan-greenspan-on-irrational-exuberance/4673464&quot;&gt;&quot;irrational exuberance&quot;&lt;/a&gt; to describe the stock market at the time, and those words not only became the title of Robert Shiller&#39;s cautionary book on market bubbles, but also the beginnings of the belief that central bankers had the wisdom to be market timers and the power to bend the economy to their views. I think that Greenspan&#39;s words seem prophetic, only with the benefit of hindsight, and I believe that central bankers have neither the power nor the tools to move the economy in significant ways. I was reminded of that episode when I read that Jerome Powell, the current Fed chair, had described the market as &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/25/federal-reserve-chair-jerome-powell-warns-stocks-are-fairly-highly-valued.html&quot;&gt;&quot;fairly highly valued&quot;&lt;/a&gt;. In market strategy speak, these are words that are at war with each other, since markets can either be “fairly valued” or “highly valued”, but not both, but I don&#39;t blame Powell for being evasive. For much of this year, and especially since April, the question that market observers and investors have faced is whether stocks, especially in the United States, are pushing into “bubble” territory and headed for a correction. As someone who buys into the notion that market timing is the impossible dream, you may find it surprising that I think that Powell is &amp;nbsp;right in his assessment that stocks are richly priced, but that said, I will try to explain why making the leap into concluding that stocks are in a bubble, and acting on that conclusion are much more difficult to do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Financial Markets in 2025&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It has, to put it mildly, been an interesting year for stocks, as economic headwinds and shocks have mounted, with tariffs, wars and politics all adding to the mix. After a first quarter, where it looked like financial markets would succumb to the pressure of bad news, stock markets have come roaring back, surprising market experts and economists. As a precursor to answering the question of whether stocks are &quot;fairly highly valued&quot; today, let’s take a look at how we got to where we are on September 30, 2025.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Resilient Equities&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;We will start with US equities, and while that may seem parochial, it is worth remembering that they represented more than 50% of the total market capitalization of all traded stocks in the world at the start of 2025. In the figure below, we look at the S&amp;amp;P 500 and the NASDAQ, with the former standing in as a rough proxy for large US market cap stocks and the latter for technology companies:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCuAUw4KDIzY_dm0X7FRGZ9j3RuvQZxi4dMK2Le1Wi8ZtBVRtA6TgfRASaqqbIlUbMkrVCjBmbaB7hBLJoV5c1Yvw0KelKPP7_YEiwAqZhjVoQFtZzxOMPczjLWW1UOMsBpcO5BfvbTX74TEJB5TzbrlJQLpPAB46hW5EYyaCrM8e_bYA3fjyqALjPSUo/s4222/USEquityIndicxes.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;3034&quot; data-original-width=&quot;4222&quot; height=&quot;288&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCuAUw4KDIzY_dm0X7FRGZ9j3RuvQZxi4dMK2Le1Wi8ZtBVRtA6TgfRASaqqbIlUbMkrVCjBmbaB7hBLJoV5c1Yvw0KelKPP7_YEiwAqZhjVoQFtZzxOMPczjLWW1UOMsBpcO5BfvbTX74TEJB5TzbrlJQLpPAB46hW5EYyaCrM8e_bYA3fjyqALjPSUo/w400-h288/USEquityIndicxes.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, US equities were down in the first quarter, but the standardized values indicate that it was much worse for technology companies than for the rest of the market, with the NASDAQ down 21.3% through April 8, the market bottom, while the S&amp;amp;P 500 was down 14.3%. On April 8, the consensus wisdom was that the long-awaited correction was upon us, and that tech stocks would take more of a beating over the rest of the year. The market, of course, decided to upend expectations, as tech came roaring back in the second and third quarters, carrying the market with it. In fact, through the first three quarters, the NASDAQ has reclaimed the lead, up 17.3% so far this year, whereas the S&amp;amp;P 500 is up 13.7%.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; We take a closer and more detailed look at all publicly traded US equities, in the table below, where we break out the year-to-date performance, by sector:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgK9nc_K10zoWRdPXLLFdD541W_gAfAojIRXXg7YD1HH-xlhh4Thx4NXevHEeWpHMxvY_e-_Exv3Lhh_GaYl7VmSvrTNfi9BtzhHX5TNuNZdFWZTvTWp6JSnUaB-19xUE3OpM3CRybAt4sRoZWxfNOzl7s5Wjd5hwtvAdDB9cpRRBWCOz3YNKoL9F2Rvts/s1734/Sectors2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;588&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1734&quot; height=&quot;136&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgK9nc_K10zoWRdPXLLFdD541W_gAfAojIRXXg7YD1HH-xlhh4Thx4NXevHEeWpHMxvY_e-_Exv3Lhh_GaYl7VmSvrTNfi9BtzhHX5TNuNZdFWZTvTWp6JSnUaB-19xUE3OpM3CRybAt4sRoZWxfNOzl7s5Wjd5hwtvAdDB9cpRRBWCOz3YNKoL9F2Rvts/w400-h136/Sectors2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;The two best performing sectors in the first three quarters of 2025 have been technology (up $3.93 trillion and 22.4% YTD) and communication services (up $1.29 trillion and 22.3% YTD). There are five sectors which lagged the market, with consumer staples and health care effectively flat for the year, and energy consumer discretionary and real estate up only 4-6% for the year. Financial, industrials and materials, for the most part, matched the overall market in terms of percentage change, and the overall value of US equities increased by $8.3 trillion (13.76%) in the first nine months of 2025.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;If you puzzled by the outperformance of communication services, it is worth noting that Alphabet and Meta, both of which derive large portions of their revenues from online advertising, are categorized by S&amp;amp;P as communication service companies. These two companies are part of the Mag Seven. and the companies in this grouping have been the engine driving US equities for much of the last decade, leading to talk of a top-heavy market. To assess their contribution to market performance, we looked at &amp;nbsp;the aggregate market cap of the seven companies, relative to all 5748 traded US equities in 2023, 2024 and 2025 (YTD):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCw4moGzz3NelHQcY45hZ27G2UqercprnivlYwsNIx7Bov06FFTy15h9vIIFZ69Vzl9OhoYRNjFUnJvQCblljlRmZoMmOQKn876Qm29JydF-ncOJ-sn32a7BySuHXw8b8YFRD0BIT-rl5N1jYeRLPDgD9KqzsbU_FlSbnFXCe1pmsR0wTEEVB1P5ixGIg/s1422/MagSevenContribution.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;572&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1422&quot; height=&quot;161&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCw4moGzz3NelHQcY45hZ27G2UqercprnivlYwsNIx7Bov06FFTy15h9vIIFZ69Vzl9OhoYRNjFUnJvQCblljlRmZoMmOQKn876Qm29JydF-ncOJ-sn32a7BySuHXw8b8YFRD0BIT-rl5N1jYeRLPDgD9KqzsbU_FlSbnFXCe1pmsR0wTEEVB1P5ixGIg/w400-h161/MagSevenContribution.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The aggregate market capitalization of the Mag Seven, as a percent of market cap of all traded US companies, has risen from 17.5% at the end of 2022 to 24.6% at the end of 2023 to 29.3% at the end of 2024. Focusing just on 2025, the Mag Seven took a step back in the first quarter, dropping to 26.3% of overall market cap on March 31, 2025, but has made a decisive comeback since, with an increase in market cap of $2.8 trillion in the first nine months of 2025, accounting for 52.4% of the overall increase in market capitalization this year. In fact, the Mag Seven now command 30.35% of the total market capitalization for US equities, a higher percent than at the start of the year. Over the last three years, the Mag Seven alone have accounted for more than half of the increase in market capitalization of all US equities, each year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There are other dimensions on which you can slice and dice US equities, and we did a quick run through some of them, by breaking US companies into groupings, based upon characteristics, and examining performance in each&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;one:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Small cap versus Large cap&lt;/u&gt;: For much of the large century, small cap stocks (especially those in the bottom decile of market capitalization) delivered higher returns than large cap stocks. As I argued &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-small-cap-premium-fact-fiction-and.html&quot;&gt;in a post from a decade ago&lt;/a&gt;, the small cap premium has not just disappeared since the 1980s, but been replaced with a large cap premium. Looking at returns in 2025, broken down by market capitalization at the start of the year, here is what we see:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8UDpbfp4eO29l3kOSoDJ0FTvaEBeaVlC2jEtGfuno1QO1mx-LnLxfG1GfirebcEvNCWZaCgRyithPGwF8yVtqt813YIjc3jF7qhlgVjwtf-ZMo2AOgZz7X9Px9fHfofrMW9AO88JmnXlUwLH0wHTjoT65cLlMF6gtztiYxiBr2GW4pW1xyNTpDePW2bU/s1762/MktCapComp.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;102&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1762&quot; height=&quot;32&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8UDpbfp4eO29l3kOSoDJ0FTvaEBeaVlC2jEtGfuno1QO1mx-LnLxfG1GfirebcEvNCWZaCgRyithPGwF8yVtqt813YIjc3jF7qhlgVjwtf-ZMo2AOgZz7X9Px9fHfofrMW9AO88JmnXlUwLH0wHTjoT65cLlMF6gtztiYxiBr2GW4pW1xyNTpDePW2bU/w540-h32/MktCapComp.jpg&quot; width=&quot;540&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, this has been a good year for small cap stocks, with the bottom half of the market seeing a much bigger increase, in percent terms, in market cap than the top half of the market, with much of the outperformance coming in the third quarter.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Value versus growth&lt;/u&gt;: Another enduring finding from the last century is that low price to book stocks delivered higher returns, after adjusting for risk, than high price to book stocks. While this is often categorized as a value effect, it works only if you accept price to book as a proxy for value, but even that effect has largely been absent in this century. Breaking down stocks based upon price to book ratios at the start of 2025, here is what we get:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzs28ZT1i_96k1dyeKNtI-l5pQDJzhKCrYDyTcPypDihe3ktcAjOEygKJMnahL6ukgpBSebOvFISvilxecuKowUowkSVM6SpvPC0V1EGcM8ofrjWARVELtpSdzLJneKmJOnGzr3k57YMsw50GmZyv0po3upglBqav128IuxWJZ6ejAis4BR9hngcM0Jy4/s1802/PBVComp.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;104&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1802&quot; height=&quot;29&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzs28ZT1i_96k1dyeKNtI-l5pQDJzhKCrYDyTcPypDihe3ktcAjOEygKJMnahL6ukgpBSebOvFISvilxecuKowUowkSVM6SpvPC0V1EGcM8ofrjWARVELtpSdzLJneKmJOnGzr3k57YMsw50GmZyv0po3upglBqav128IuxWJZ6ejAis4BR9hngcM0Jy4/w537-h29/PBVComp.jpg&quot; width=&quot;537&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While it is too early to celebrate the return of value, in 2025, low price to book stocks have done better than high price to book stocks, but all of the outperformance came in the first quarter of the year.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Momentum&lt;/u&gt;: Momentum has been a stronger force in markets than either market cap or value, and unlike those two, momentum has not just maintained its edge, but strengthened it over the last few years. Using the price change in 2024 as a proxy for momentum, we broke companies down into deciles and looked at returns in 2025:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj91O8-nms5sy7hKSjfd-XbMPYA9K9tdOvQ2ZVy8KbdsMkH9jkInU0YqNZ3OMbv1A_LnIxo59VU5Cdtm8rEeGsjVRVHWRsrAfWHa8B-7w1QrHazlaHdQqeU9vINP11idNhoWHzxnpjPRq3B3UwfmA8UHJKkkpe23H0f1TkV_H581UQD0Li0OY_nntlozWo/s1764/MomentumComp.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;106&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1764&quot; height=&quot;32&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj91O8-nms5sy7hKSjfd-XbMPYA9K9tdOvQ2ZVy8KbdsMkH9jkInU0YqNZ3OMbv1A_LnIxo59VU5Cdtm8rEeGsjVRVHWRsrAfWHa8B-7w1QrHazlaHdQqeU9vINP11idNhoWHzxnpjPRq3B3UwfmA8UHJKkkpe23H0f1TkV_H581UQD0Li0OY_nntlozWo/w536-h32/MomentumComp.jpg&quot; width=&quot;536&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;After lagging in the first quarter, momentum stocks have made a comeback, with the top half of momentum stocks now leading the bottom half for the year to date in percent change in market capitalization.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In sum, it has been a good year, so far, for US equities, but the gains have been unevenly distributed across the market, and while the first quarter represented a break from the momentum and tech driven market of 2023 and 2024, the second and third quarters saw a return of those forces.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Directionless Treasuries&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;While interest rates are always a driver of stock prices, they have played less of a role in driving equity markets in 2025 than in prior years. To see why, take a look at US treasury rates, across maturities, in 2025:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjz1q2GbcoYOURJwW6I_BD5ZV5NZ4ZccnGJ6gUlbtVT7q1mu-4uNhu4vddUAkYteDU9LM40Dke_SPeS2JPnk2dwpKSOtQQBx06p9pug-V1tCJBKa1qoKHf3a4DLqhtXO-RSKBSM8FYjONLgpcxkYcaHZ1mb1YZ4Vo7MyzZY6CSuo_fwIJLTyn8UNxHeJYM/s1800/IntRatePicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1800&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1772&quot; height=&quot;320&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjz1q2GbcoYOURJwW6I_BD5ZV5NZ4ZccnGJ6gUlbtVT7q1mu-4uNhu4vddUAkYteDU9LM40Dke_SPeS2JPnk2dwpKSOtQQBx06p9pug-V1tCJBKa1qoKHf3a4DLqhtXO-RSKBSM8FYjONLgpcxkYcaHZ1mb1YZ4Vo7MyzZY6CSuo_fwIJLTyn8UNxHeJYM/s320/IntRatePicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;315&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Rates have for the most part are close to where they were at the start of the year, with very little intra-year volatility notwithstanding economic stories about inflation and real growth suggesting bigger moves. The battle between the Trump administration and the Federal Reserve has received a great deal of press attention, but the Fed&#39;s inaction for much of the year and lowering of the Fed Funds rate in September seem to have had little or no impact on treasury rates.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;On May 16, 2025, Moody&#39;s lowered the ratings for the United States from Aaa to Aa1, joining Fitch and S&amp;amp;P, but again the effect on treasury rates was transient. If you are wondering why this did not translate into an increase in default spreads (and rates), the likely answer is that markets were not surprised by the downgrade, and the best evidence for this is in the 5-year US sovereign CDS spread, a market-set number for default risk (spreads):&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCoZmzvtSmugEhIOPExMoQ1lvPaYXG23NMLhkm-NU-nJIVIiX9hd1tGqcUTPvS-oY0RPDOUOFRM67Obh5rgPA3rkMTNibexeDQky9sjua8l9M3u91suyrbUwKVgQdWzAkPnR0JgVb-woIHa91x5i2549TarffsStrLdIvRwwfNXOftoQb8sAVFasH3gbE/s1154/USSovrCDS.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;830&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1154&quot; height=&quot;230&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCoZmzvtSmugEhIOPExMoQ1lvPaYXG23NMLhkm-NU-nJIVIiX9hd1tGqcUTPvS-oY0RPDOUOFRM67Obh5rgPA3rkMTNibexeDQky9sjua8l9M3u91suyrbUwKVgQdWzAkPnR0JgVb-woIHa91x5i2549TarffsStrLdIvRwwfNXOftoQb8sAVFasH3gbE/s320/USSovrCDS.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see there was a spike in the US sovereign CDS spread this year, but it happened in response to liberation day on March 31, when President Trump announced punishing tariffs on the rest of the world. The Moody&#39;s downgrade had little impact on the spread, and even the tariff effect had fully faded by September 30, 2025, with spreads back to where they were at the start of the year (and for much of the last few years).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Extending the assessment of default spreads to the corporate market, there has been relatively&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;little movement in corporate default spreads in 2025:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimjQ4kVsNI0O7CIQHtKbL7Xj7JcE098TV8QVrJE-tepNyXESNq0v6PpmGPH5PzzlEcw0XqKmMQhe8fOJWkoFy1FEjJ014Bw-J80VIVgogAGNG8lpfA5YJmDcb-os_b62l4v3DZdAxp3zCl-4b4HB_rhpgI9y18qtZcxv7R5QTtdYb3t_cFvUOcnuQpBIE/s2986/CorpDefSpreads2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2152&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2986&quot; height=&quot;289&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimjQ4kVsNI0O7CIQHtKbL7Xj7JcE098TV8QVrJE-tepNyXESNq0v6PpmGPH5PzzlEcw0XqKmMQhe8fOJWkoFy1FEjJ014Bw-J80VIVgogAGNG8lpfA5YJmDcb-os_b62l4v3DZdAxp3zCl-4b4HB_rhpgI9y18qtZcxv7R5QTtdYb3t_cFvUOcnuQpBIE/w400-h289/CorpDefSpreads2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Source: FRED&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, the most striking part of the story is that so little has changed over the course of 2025, notwithstanding the spike in spreads in the first week of April, when the tariffs were announced. The Moody&#39;s rating and the talk of a recession seem to have done little to supercharge the fear factor, and by extension the spreads. In fact, the only rating that has seen a significant move is in the CCC and below grouping, where spreads are now higher than they were at the start of the year, but still much lower than they were at the end of the first quarter of 2025.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Rest of the Story&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;The economic shocks that hit the US markets, and which US equities and debt shrugged off, for the most part, also reverberated in the rest of the world. The broadest measure of relative performance between US and global equities is the divergence between the S&amp;amp;P 500, a proxy for US equity performance, and the MSCI World index, a stand-in for large cap international stocks, and the results are below:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpLH-xVoqxdWUzMdxE4remmzSIciQgVkLOvKM_h-FElPxgW6IH4UR93R8E1tiQnbQ9ByqJnHkYBjJSnUfP_QmJ1p1VyQv922UIVQ_lW1MWKoXnZFHZGex3YJxWKh2QuCbxOeh8_eJGUMWqUJjQmFdVNdBGUMidZ3eX3ev9zvbQd3R8o1SzDkEzycWfAzQ/s6330/USvsGlobalEquityIndex.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2896&quot; data-original-width=&quot;6330&quot; height=&quot;183&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpLH-xVoqxdWUzMdxE4remmzSIciQgVkLOvKM_h-FElPxgW6IH4UR93R8E1tiQnbQ9ByqJnHkYBjJSnUfP_QmJ1p1VyQv922UIVQ_lW1MWKoXnZFHZGex3YJxWKh2QuCbxOeh8_eJGUMWqUJjQmFdVNdBGUMidZ3eX3ev9zvbQd3R8o1SzDkEzycWfAzQ/w400-h183/USvsGlobalEquityIndex.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In the first nine months of 2025, the MSCI global equity index is up 16.6%, about 2.3% more than the S&amp;amp;P 500 over the same period. However, all of this underperformance occurred in the first quarter of 2025, and the S&amp;amp;P 500 has found its winning ways again in the second and third quarters.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The MSCI index does obscure differences across regions and is titled towards large cap stocks. Consequently, we looked at all publicly traded equities, broken down by regions, with the values in US dollars, and the results so far in 2025 are in the table below:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi2zowyD8oeNbS1kMCbk9kNDDS2UME4SW-xOupFbOZL1pDRtYunJv0nTeyKyeGa4gmUetoA4JUQSKCb-fFrZwLupdWsGP7xQGgcOry-CAWktb_jJAxkwuojP6tFqQN3yXZ70BXtoy5ZNM9fi-F34W2qjO0AjX-SJDQQbGESneTuydy7CUM580J_sqQysFw/s1784/RegionTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;620&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1784&quot; height=&quot;139&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi2zowyD8oeNbS1kMCbk9kNDDS2UME4SW-xOupFbOZL1pDRtYunJv0nTeyKyeGa4gmUetoA4JUQSKCb-fFrZwLupdWsGP7xQGgcOry-CAWktb_jJAxkwuojP6tFqQN3yXZ70BXtoy5ZNM9fi-F34W2qjO0AjX-SJDQQbGESneTuydy7CUM580J_sqQysFw/w400-h139/RegionTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Global equities were up, in aggregate dollar market capitalization, by 16.8%, and while US equities have underperformed in the first nine months of 2025, with a 13,8% return, &amp;nbsp;they have rediscovered their mojo in the second and third quarters. The worst performing regions of the world are India, down 3.15%, in US dollar terms, this year, and Africa and the Middle East, up only 2.13%. It is too early to spin stories for why these regions underperformed, but in my data update post from the start of 2025, I pointed to India as the most highly priced market in the world, and this year may reflect a cleaning up. The rest of the world ran ahead of the United States, with some of the additional return coming from a weaker US dollar; the local currency returns in these regions were lower than the returns you see in the table.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;US Equities: Overpriced or Underpriced?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;None of the discussion above answers the question that we started this post with, which is whether US equities are overpriced. To make that assessment, there are a variety of metrics that are used, and while all of them are flawed, they vary in terms of what they leave out of the assessment, and the assumptions that underlie them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhm7ayJfXnh2qm5y-kcBXH9vdj4u70F6a3OU7ZQSX54Qgi5fIOO1D1wxi0twqS1_MFn0vga-VGxhcMpMFMkkdi1Pwah-T2r2-DdT9L9sOebTgfA_ayMmDNcgPzRSQDXJfdv_8aKdsWIJoaWgScD26gOU_7rOaqQgAVB7RAuvS2P6LEdbP2fdCRTMBsM8g8/s1448/MktTimingAlts.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;664&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1448&quot; height=&quot;184&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhm7ayJfXnh2qm5y-kcBXH9vdj4u70F6a3OU7ZQSX54Qgi5fIOO1D1wxi0twqS1_MFn0vga-VGxhcMpMFMkkdi1Pwah-T2r2-DdT9L9sOebTgfA_ayMmDNcgPzRSQDXJfdv_8aKdsWIJoaWgScD26gOU_7rOaqQgAVB7RAuvS2P6LEdbP2fdCRTMBsM8g8/w400-h184/MktTimingAlts.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;At one end of the spectrum, the simplest and most incomplete metric is based purely on price history, with markets that have had extended good runs being viewed as overpriced. A modification is to bring earnings into the assessment, with prices moving disproportionately more than earnings (resulting in higher or lower PE ratios) considered a signal of market mispricing. The third adaptation allows for the returns you can make on alternative investments, in the form of interest rates on treasuries, to make a judgment on market pricing. The final and fullest variant considers growth in the assessment, bringing in both its good side (that it increases earnings in future periods) and its bad side (that it needs a portion of earnings to be reinvested), to make a pricing judgment, but even that variant ignores disruptions that alter market dynamics and risk taking.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Rising stock prices&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; For some investors, an extended stretch of rising stock prices is, by itself, sufficient reason to conclude that if stocks are doing so well, they must be over priced. This concern will get deeper as the market run gets longer (in terms of time) and steeper (in terms of price rise). Using that framework, you can see why talk of a stock market bubble has built up over the last decade, as stocks keep climbing walls of worry and hitting new highs. &amp;nbsp;W&lt;/span&gt;e have had a remarkable bull run in US equities over the last 15 years, with the S&amp;amp;P 500 up over 500% over that period:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcbX97vRU_3wDrkkgs77FvpCX7F8E2GBJHIAODBkR7YqVcWJWS0KfBcamX72Wdafn4Jmik7bACwo1IMEAJSwj1yY6EYU0QCstOrTi5cUlYCY5KiWD1mDNGqC5x4em4sVbV6wX2GJIp2KKJgAR_vWWcYpw-RbKfepXXmaQg7Bid3QUPD_fqNv-MuF5lebE/s1760/USEquities%20Prices.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1278&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1760&quot; height=&quot;290&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcbX97vRU_3wDrkkgs77FvpCX7F8E2GBJHIAODBkR7YqVcWJWS0KfBcamX72Wdafn4Jmik7bACwo1IMEAJSwj1yY6EYU0QCstOrTi5cUlYCY5KiWD1mDNGqC5x4em4sVbV6wX2GJIp2KKJgAR_vWWcYpw-RbKfepXXmaQg7Bid3QUPD_fqNv-MuF5lebE/w400-h290/USEquities%20Prices.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histretSP.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download spreadsheet with historical returns on stocks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In short, the annual return (18.74%) that equity investors have earned over the last fifteen years is significantly higher than the annual return (9.94%) on US equities over the last century. For some, this run-up alone is enough to decide that equities are overpriced and incomplete though this analysis is, you can see its draw for many investors.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. The Earnings Effect&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Looking at rising stock prices as an indicator of overpricing ignores the reality that markets can sometimes be up strongly, not because of speculation or over pricing, but because of rising earnings. That is the reason that many investors look at market pricing scaled to earnings, or PE ratios, and the graph below captures three variants of the PE ratio - the trailing PE, where you scale market pricing to earnings in the last twelve months, a normalized PE, where you scale the market pricing to average earnings over a longer time period (a decade) and a CAPE or Shiller PE, where you first adjust earnings for inflation and then normalize:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiy1OkiAFRGaLGBdOkO8RPLN4HHhk93Df4SAtuwChYvzLN1atNQ_dZtSJcEdTgPYO42RHqTOaS-6LaEnh7yfwKNXZrcmx5VU_OMd4K5TdbFpljAc96fihffT-8hkc7_pEmBo9-1i80fxUybIQro2csn-3Nwxf44gRchQMYPjOXLnYoG0FTF9F_OCujh1Qg/s1762/PEHistory.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1280&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1762&quot; height=&quot;290&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiy1OkiAFRGaLGBdOkO8RPLN4HHhk93Df4SAtuwChYvzLN1atNQ_dZtSJcEdTgPYO42RHqTOaS-6LaEnh7yfwKNXZrcmx5VU_OMd4K5TdbFpljAc96fihffT-8hkc7_pEmBo9-1i80fxUybIQro2csn-3Nwxf44gRchQMYPjOXLnYoG0FTF9F_OCujh1Qg/w400-h290/PEHistory.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/PEHistorical2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download historical PE ratios for US equities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;All three versions of the PE ratio tell the same story, and in September 2025, all three stood close to all time highs, with the spike at the peak of the dot com boom being the only exception.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;3. The Investing Alternatives&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Stocks that trade at higher multiples of earnings are obviously more expensive than when then trade at lower, but to make a judgment on whether they are overpriced, you still have to compare them to what you can make on alternative investments. For investors in financial assets, those alternative investments are bonds (if you are investing long term) or commercial paper/treasury bills (if you are investing short term). Logically, if these alternatives are yielding low returns, you should be willing to pay a much higher multiples of earnings for risky assets (like stocks). One way in which we can bring in this choice is by flipping the PE ratio (to get the earning to price ratio or earnings yield) and comparing that earning yield to the ten-year treasury bond rate:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5vf97DBAJmp-QgS6lf5mVqUSuDs5SgjcwHjbov86RzfbjsOjy7onOGz-v3ASvmgAC_Dx9FzQbT8eTL0T7KRVBF2EM7ZEM2a7nffLilfPvIjXKIEDW-HiVqy7n1XTfi6ay1PnuLQonD_jRYkpMBLd0iCloSaw9dVObDVPFaF6QuBJPu8chmsxnOF3mvtY/s1760/EPChart.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1674&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1760&quot; height=&quot;380&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5vf97DBAJmp-QgS6lf5mVqUSuDs5SgjcwHjbov86RzfbjsOjy7onOGz-v3ASvmgAC_Dx9FzQbT8eTL0T7KRVBF2EM7ZEM2a7nffLilfPvIjXKIEDW-HiVqy7n1XTfi6ay1PnuLQonD_jRYkpMBLd0iCloSaw9dVObDVPFaF6QuBJPu8chmsxnOF3mvtY/w400-h380/EPChart.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Between 2011 and 2020, for instance, the earnings yield was 5.46% but that was much higher than the 10-year treasury bond rate, which averaged 2.15% over that decade. In 2021, the earnings yield dropped to 4.33%, close to a historical low, butt with the treasury bond rate at 1.51%, you could argue that equity investors had nowhere else to go. As treasury bond rates climbed back towards 4% in 2022, stock prices dropped and the earnings yield climbed to 5.72%. In the last three years (2023-25), treasury rates have stayed higher (4% or more), but earnings yields have dropped. In fact, the earnings yield of 4% in September 2025 was 0.16% below the ten-year treasury bond rate, triggering bearish warnings from analysts who use the difference between the earnings yield and the ten-year bond rate as their market timing metric.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;4. The Rest of the Story - Cash flows, Growth and Risk&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;The earnings yield, in conjunction with the treasury bond rate, is widely used as a market timing tool, but it has two, perhaps fatal, flaws.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The first is that it treats stocks as if they were glorified bonds, treating the earnings yield like a coupon, and misses the reason that investors are drawn to equities, which is the potential for growth. Incorporating growth into the analysis has two effects, with the first being that you need reinvestment to grow, and that reinvestment comes out of earnings, and the second being the upside of increasing earnings over time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The second is that the earnings yield/ treasury bond rate differential has had a spotty record timing the market, missing much of the great bull market of the 1980s and 1990s, and clearly not providing much predictive power in the last two years.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There is an approach that you can use to incorporate the growth and cash flow effects into your market analysis. It is to estimate an intrinsic value for the market, where you incorporate the growth and reinvestment effects into expected cash flows, and discount them at a required return that incorporates what you can earn on a riskfree (or close to riskfree) investment and a risk premium for investing in equities.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKStHTOPA9Xnn9gGanvP8FAT5RRIJe2lxRH8kt6QeodKe3NWG7skTmrr4u20oz_c9RTskKTPSFd6IDDooN1EK4gQffY1ppwjSYpnyP48jd_qxThKuWurDOI4-22ChrKuRKkSIkLLZSvkqrhEOq5RV35CJwWVaaLn45AOd7bbboGP-eSlrfKF1cdEv7SQY/s1206/MktINtrinsicValuePicture.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;768&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1206&quot; height=&quot;255&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKStHTOPA9Xnn9gGanvP8FAT5RRIJe2lxRH8kt6QeodKe3NWG7skTmrr4u20oz_c9RTskKTPSFd6IDDooN1EK4gQffY1ppwjSYpnyP48jd_qxThKuWurDOI4-22ChrKuRKkSIkLLZSvkqrhEOq5RV35CJwWVaaLn45AOd7bbboGP-eSlrfKF1cdEv7SQY/w400-h255/MktINtrinsicValuePicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see, the intrinsic value equation can be used in one of two ways to assess the market. One is to back out an internal rate of return, i.e., a discount rate that yields a present value equal to the market index; netting out the treasury bond rate from this yields an implied equity risk premium for the market. The other is choose an equity risk premium that you believe is reasonable and to value the market.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I estimate an implied equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500 at the start of every month, and use it as my barometer of the market, a receptacle of market hopes and fears, falling in good times and rising during crises. By my computation, the &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPOct25.xlsx&quot;&gt;expected return on the index at the end of September 2025 was 8.17%&lt;/a&gt;, and with the ten-year treasury rate of 4.16% netted from it yields an implied equity risk premium of 4.01%. The question of whether the market is over or underpriced can be reframed as one about whether the equity risk premium is too low (indicating an overpriced market) or too high (underpriced market). In the figure below, I put the September ERP into perspective by comparing it to implied equity risk premiums for the S&amp;amp;P 500 going back in time:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCqIICZZxP-95P6fIjTz51t2SPfb7DC59BBeIOA3dB6jsUKc8J95ySiVDbjkyr7LRj3ZqqnMcQsunkOYwO7B1L_rv7tHSU0zhRLW_sM9HdQKDHNNAbpZgASUP9NG3_yc-Mjv3gkFXU4wcQVdeG32CXExeq1XfjYNPswywRR7vCsm8IfXdV5NXWQwGYQ4s/s1342/EERPHistory.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;926&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1342&quot; height=&quot;276&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCqIICZZxP-95P6fIjTz51t2SPfb7DC59BBeIOA3dB6jsUKc8J95ySiVDbjkyr7LRj3ZqqnMcQsunkOYwO7B1L_rv7tHSU0zhRLW_sM9HdQKDHNNAbpZgASUP9NG3_yc-Mjv3gkFXU4wcQVdeG32CXExeq1XfjYNPswywRR7vCsm8IfXdV5NXWQwGYQ4s/w400-h276/EERPHistory.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histimpl.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download historical implied equity risk premiums for S&amp;amp;P 500&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As is often the case with historical comparisons, there is something here for every side of the debate. For those who believe that the market is overpriced, the obvious comparison is to equity risk premiums since the 2008 crisis, and the conclusion would be that the Sept 2025 premium of 4.01% is too low (and stock prices are too high). For those who are more sanguine about the market, the comparison would be to the dot-com boom days, when the implied equity risk premium dipped to 2%, to conclude that this market is not in a bubble.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; An alternate way to assess market pricing is to assume an equity risk premium and estimate the value of the index using that premium. Thus, if we assume that the average premium &amp;nbsp;(4.25%) from 1960 to 2024 is a fair premium to the market, and revalue the index, here is what we would get as its value:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpeD5fzbupmdw4dD-Qkazv_xFXbEET_buvnPRr30opoik30gyxc4xOVoZPq6l8AGMZPorPTb9p7xc2CJHEMEO_usUjIeT09wMX-H4LkUTOqE1FLl2wVyC65vpRYctxbCmelc03C9eWjYFdZg7vhFTI4p3mNiYVXehtvv63wE0iWrZPrp6MlglK6odxUbQ/s1486/S&amp;amp;PIntrinsicValueSept2025.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;848&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1486&quot; height=&quot;229&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpeD5fzbupmdw4dD-Qkazv_xFXbEET_buvnPRr30opoik30gyxc4xOVoZPq6l8AGMZPorPTb9p7xc2CJHEMEO_usUjIeT09wMX-H4LkUTOqE1FLl2wVyC65vpRYctxbCmelc03C9eWjYFdZg7vhFTI4p3mNiYVXehtvv63wE0iWrZPrp6MlglK6odxUbQ/w400-h229/S&amp;amp;PIntrinsicValueSept2025.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IntrinsicValueS&amp;amp;P500Sept25.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download intrinsic value estimator&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With an implied equity risk premium of 4.25%, and a riskfree rate of 4.16%, we get an expected return on stocks of 8.41%, and using analyst estimates of growth in earnings and cash payout ratios that adjust over time to sustainable levels, we arrive at a value for the index of about 5940, 12.6% lower than the index value on September 30, 2025.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Market Timing Challenge&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It is undeniable that this market is richly priced on every metric, from PE ratios to the earnings yield, net of treasuries, to intrinsic value measures like the equity risk premium, thus providing backing for Powell&#39;s assessment of equities as “fairly highly valued”. If you trust in mean reversion to historical averages, it seems reasonable to conclude that stocks are in fact overpriced, and due for a correction. In this section, we will examine why, even if you come to this conclusion, it is difficult to convert it into action.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;Using lawyerly language, let&#39;s stipulate that markets are overpriced today, though that overpricing can cover a range of views from the market being a bubble to the markets just being expensive. There are five responses that you can have to this judgment, ranging from least aggressive to most aggressive on the market timing front:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Do nothing&lt;/u&gt;: The essence of being a non-market timer is that you do not alter any aspect of your portfolio to reflect your market views. Thus, if your preferred allocation mix is 60% in stocks and 40% in your bonds, you stay with that mix, and you not only hold on to your existing investments but you continue to add to them in the same way that you have always done.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hold on to/ build cash holdings&lt;/u&gt;: For the most part, you match what you would have done in the do nothing response in terms of overall asset allocation mix and holdings, but you not only put your portfolio additions into cash (treasury bills, money market funds) but when you act, it will be more likely to be selling existing holdings (that you view as over valued) than buying new ones. For many equity mutual fund managers, this statistic (liquid assets and cash as a percent of assets under management) is a rough proxy of how bullish or bearish they are about the overall market.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Change asset allocation mix&lt;/u&gt;: In this response, you revisit your preferred asset allocation mix, which was set based on your age, cash needs and risk aversion, and alter it to reflect your market timing views. Thus, if you believe that stocks are overpriced, but you view bonds as fairly or even under priced, you will decrease your allocation to the former, and increase your allocation to the latter. If you are constrained to be an all-equity investor, an alternate version will be to reallocate your money from overpriced geographies to underpriced geographies, if the latter exist.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Buy protection&lt;/u&gt;: With the growth of options and futures markets, you now have ways of protecting your portfolio, without making wrenching changes to your asset allocation or holdings mix. You can buy puts on the index or sell index futures, if you think equities are overpriced, and benefit from the fact that the profits from these positions will offset the losses on your portfolio, if there is a correction.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Make leveraged bets of market correction&lt;/u&gt;: The most aggressive way to take advantage of market timing is to make leveraged bets on market corrections, using either derivatives markets (puts or futures) or selling short on either all of the stocks in an index, or a subset of the most overpriced.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In making this choices, you do have to consider three real world concerns. The first is &lt;i&gt;taxes&lt;/i&gt;, with any strategies that requires significant disruptions to existing portfolios, such as changing asset allocation mixes or selling overvalued stocks in the portfolio, creating larger tax bills. The second is &lt;i&gt;transactions costs&lt;/i&gt;, which will also be higher for any strategy that is built around more aggressive. The third is &lt;i&gt;timing&lt;/i&gt;, which is that even if you are right about the overpricing, being right too early may wipe out the benefits. Speaking of Alan Greenspan&#39;s warnings about the dot com bubble, it is worth remembering that his &quot;irrational exuberance&quot; comments were made in 1996, and that the market correction occurred in 2001, and any investor who sold equities right after the comments were made would have underperformed an investor who held on to equities and took the hit from the correction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Let&#39;s assume that you remove taxes and transactions costs from the assessment to give market timing the best possible pathway to success. To test whether market timing works, you have to create a market timing strategy around your metric of choice, with three steps fleshed out:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Choose your pricing metric&lt;/u&gt;: As noted in the last section, this can be the percentage increase in stock prices over a recent period, the current or normalized pricing ratio (PE, PBV, EV to EBITDA) or the equity risk premium/intrinsic value for the index.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Create your action rule: The action rule specifies the threshold for the chosen metric, where you will act on your market timing. You could, for instance, decide that you will increase your equity exposure if the PE ratio is more than 25% below the median value for the market&#39;s PE ratios over the previous 25, 50 or 100 years, and reduce your equity exposure if the PE ratio is more than 25% higher than the median value over the period. Note that &amp;nbsp;the trade off on setting the threshold is that setting it to a larger value (say 50%) will mean that you time the market less.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Choose your market timing response: You specify how much you will increase or decrease your equity exposure in response to the market timing signal. Thus, if you have base asset allocation mix of 60% equities, 40% bonds, you can decide that if your threshold (from step 2) is breached, and the PE ratio drops (increases) by more than 25% below the median, your equity exposure will increase (decrease) to 80% (40%) and your bond exposure reduced (increased) to 20% (60%). The more aggressive you are as a market timer, the greater will be the shift away from your base mix. Thus, you could sell all equities (0% equities, 100% bonds) if the market is overpriced and hold only equities (100% equities, 0% bonds) if the market is underpriced.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;To illustrate, let&#39;s use the Shiller PE, pick a 25% threshold for market cheapness and &amp;nbsp;alter your asset allocation mix, which would normally be 60% equity/40% debt to 80% equities/20% debt if the Shiller PE drops 25% below the median (computed over the prior 50 years) and 40% equities/ 60% bonds if it rises 25% above the median.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYBFOqmDyaQEeuQAL2GzN35YRrMNI-CHcLfffUJ_QdZ-YLSghMUnPz7UqM1X0j6pLymTUWXxXTllrcCMTzUFaZEf-mXUz91ER6LEWk0zsVZHeTQ3YQ_X2GOAr9LvX97kKztDWt1kwG78xwrmFu5bkkBANvdS1ep3zuTO-u0l329VaHyc2r0R5w2ZdUmfw/s1984/TimingAction.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;882&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1984&quot; height=&quot;178&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYBFOqmDyaQEeuQAL2GzN35YRrMNI-CHcLfffUJ_QdZ-YLSghMUnPz7UqM1X0j6pLymTUWXxXTllrcCMTzUFaZEf-mXUz91ER6LEWk0zsVZHeTQ3YQ_X2GOAr9LvX97kKztDWt1kwG78xwrmFu5bkkBANvdS1ep3zuTO-u0l329VaHyc2r0R5w2ZdUmfw/w400-h178/TimingAction.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that the test can easily be varied, using a different metric, different thresholds and different timing responses.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To avoid being accused of cherry picking the data or deviating from the standard measures of the Shiller PE, I downloaded the raw data on stock returns, bonds and the CAPE each year from 1871-2025 from Shiller&#39;s own webpage. To compute the payoff to market timing, I looked at the annual returns to an non-market-timing investor who stayed with a 60% equity/40% bond mix over time and compared it to the returns of a market timer, using the threshold/action strategy described above:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjf9m2FJTzwU1fEklVfDICPUiIMyRpgltUEVKOvnG_NJngxgNuksLagzzXakEaiv95CX1H0baScBoP87-Lo3fHHXLas_RqjDq9hQGigznyU0kcie24uEqE-PWbDqnUYqi0LXTVMtFCH0GWjwYq1h9E-ROCaWscM7CW564GZGLaLgxg35_Dd3twv4W-_ovc/s1180/MktTimingPayoffwithBase.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;252&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1180&quot; height=&quot;85&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjf9m2FJTzwU1fEklVfDICPUiIMyRpgltUEVKOvnG_NJngxgNuksLagzzXakEaiv95CX1H0baScBoP87-Lo3fHHXLas_RqjDq9hQGigznyU0kcie24uEqE-PWbDqnUYqi0LXTVMtFCH0GWjwYq1h9E-ROCaWscM7CW564GZGLaLgxg35_Dd3twv4W-_ovc/w400-h85/MktTimingPayoffwithBase.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/ShilleCAPEBacktest.xlsx&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Download CAPE backtesting spreadsheet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;Over the last century, this market timing strategy would have reduced your annual returns 0.04% each year, and that is before transactions costs and taxes. If you break this up into two half-centuries, any of the market timing gains were from 1924-1974, and they were mild, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;trying to time the market would have reduced your annual returns by 0.41% a year, on average between 1975 and 2024.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; To evaluate whether the payoff would have been different with alternate thresholds, we considered both a much lower threshold (10%) and a much higher one (50%), with the former leading to more market timing actions. We also looked at a more aggressive response, where the equity portion was increased to 100% (instead of 80%) if the market was underpriced and reduced to 0% (instead of 40%) if the market was overpriced. The results are in below:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh-QY6f8WzHUEmZ_qopO5x8t6tuwXriZZm6xruN5wEvcnwIcvGrruTp4j9cDLNGbfr_2T_V9uP2SPl5a44uGHY6u9Gs2TCqYdy2yVi9dSjNCskolbZitU0bN-EAY1TzgNwVnl0QZqaXjfPdE4Xn0v1MK-vX_SSi6ElxbrqS5GrUxU3er_BR6pIlm_ncXrk/s1472/MkttimingAltReturns.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;464&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1472&quot; height=&quot;126&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh-QY6f8WzHUEmZ_qopO5x8t6tuwXriZZm6xruN5wEvcnwIcvGrruTp4j9cDLNGbfr_2T_V9uP2SPl5a44uGHY6u9Gs2TCqYdy2yVi9dSjNCskolbZitU0bN-EAY1TzgNwVnl0QZqaXjfPdE4Xn0v1MK-vX_SSi6ElxbrqS5GrUxU3er_BR6pIlm_ncXrk/w400-h126/MkttimingAltReturns.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/ShilleCAPEBacktest.xlsx&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;Download CAPE backtesting spreadsheet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see in this table, there is&lt;b&gt; not a single market timing combination (threshold and action) that would have added to annual returns over the last fifty years&lt;/b&gt;. I completely understand that there are other combinations that may work, and you are welcome to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/ShilleCAPEBacktest.xlsx&quot;&gt;download the spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt; and try for yourselves, changing the threshold levels for actions and the action itself. You may very well find a combination that adds value but the fact that you have try this hard is indicative of why market timing is a reach. &amp;nbsp;It is also possible that making these timing judgments only once a year may be getting in the way of them working, but I did use the monthly data that Shiller has accessible, and in my experimenting, there was little that I could see in terms of added value.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The decision on whether to time markets is a personal one, and while I have concluded it does not work for me, it would be presumptuous to claim that it will not work for you. If you decide that market timing is part of your investment philosophy, though, there are three lessons that I hope that this post has highlighted. The first is that the more incomplete your market timing metrics are, the greater the chance that you will chasing a correction that never happens. It is the reason that you should be skeptical about arguments built around just pricing, PE ratios or earnings yields (relative to treasury bond rates), and even with more complete metrics, you should be scanning the horizon for fundamental changes in the economy and markets that may explain the deviation. The second is that the proof that a metric will work for you will not come from statistical measures (correlations and regressions), but from creating and back-testing an actionable strategy (of buying or selling traded instruments) based on the metric. The third is that even if you do all of this due diligence, market timing is noisy and flawed, and paraphrasing another widely used expressions, markets can stay mispriced for longer than you can stay solvent.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;iframe width=&quot;560&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/0faNl-maR5o?si=f6aqZwCr3F1QKL-B&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Datasets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histretSP.xlsx&quot;&gt;Historical returns on stocks, bonds, bills, real estate and gold: 1927 - 2024&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/PEHistorical2025.xlsx&quot;&gt;PE, Normalized PE, Shiller PE and Earnings Yield Data for US Stocks: 1960-2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://shillerdata.com&quot;&gt;Shiller data on stock returns, interest rates and CAPE (monthly): 1871-2024 (from Shiller)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histimpl.xlsx&quot;&gt;Implied Equity Risk Premiums for the S&amp;amp;P 500: 1960-2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/ShilleCAPEBacktest.xlsx&quot;&gt;Backtester for CAPE-based market timing strategies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPOct25.xlsx&quot;&gt;Implied equity risk premium calculator&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/IntrinsicValueS&amp;amp;P500Sept25.xlsx&quot;&gt;Intrinsic value for the S&amp;amp;P 500&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5054054542921228018/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/5054054542921228018' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5054054542921228018'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5054054542921228018'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/10/a-fairly-highly-valued-market-fed-chair.html' title='A “Fairly Highly Valued” Market: A Fed Chair Opines on Stocks, but should we listen?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCuAUw4KDIzY_dm0X7FRGZ9j3RuvQZxi4dMK2Le1Wi8ZtBVRtA6TgfRASaqqbIlUbMkrVCjBmbaB7hBLJoV5c1Yvw0KelKPP7_YEiwAqZhjVoQFtZzxOMPczjLWW1UOMsBpcO5BfvbTX74TEJB5TzbrlJQLpPAB46hW5EYyaCrM8e_bYA3fjyqALjPSUo/s72-w400-h288-c/USEquityIndicxes.jpg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-272409841281103316</id><published>2025-08-05T15:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2025-08-05T15:25:00.042-04:00</updated><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="AI"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Scams"/><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Teaching"/><title type='text'>The Imitation Game: Defending against AI&#39;s Dark Side!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;A few weeks ago, I started receiving a stream of message about an Instagram post that I was allegedly starring in, where after offering my views on Palantir&#39;s valuation, I was soliciting investors to invest with me (or with an investment entity that had ties to me). I was not surprised, since I have lived with imitations for years, but I was bemused, since I don&#39;t have an Instagram account and have not posted on Facebook more than once or twice in a decade. In the last few days, those warnings have been joined by others, who have noted that there is now a video that looks and sounds like me, adding to the sales pitch with promises of super-normal returns if they reach out, and presumably send their money in. (Please don&#39;t go looking for these scams online, since the very act of clicking on them can expose you to their reach.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I would like to think that readers of my books or posts, or students in my classes, know me well enough to be able to tell that these are fakes, and while this is not the first time I have been targeted, it is clear that AI has upped the ante, in terms of creating posts and videos that look authentic. In response, I cycled through a series of emotions, starting with surprise that there are some out there who think that using my name alone will draw in investors, moving on to anger at the targeting of vulnerable investors and ending with frustration at the social media platforms that allow these fakes to exist. As a teacher, though, curiosity beat out all of these emotions, and I thought that the best thing that I can do, in addition to the fruitless exercise of notifying the social media companies about the fakes, is to talk about what these AI imitators got right, what they were off target on and what they got wrong in trying to create these fakes of me. Put simply, I plan to grade my AI imitator, as I would any student in my class, recognizing that being objective in this exercise will be tough to do. In the lead-in, though, I have to bore you with details of my professional life and thought process, since that is the key to creating a general framework that you will be able to use to detect AI imitations, since the game will only get more sophisticated in the years to come.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;An Easy Target?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;In &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;amp;rls=en&amp;amp;q=Damodaran+beat+your+bot+blog+post&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;oe=UTF-8&quot;&gt;a post last year, I talked about a bot in my name&lt;/a&gt;, that was in development phase at NYU, and while officially sanctioned, it did open up existential challenges &amp;nbsp;for me. In discussing that bot, I noted that this bot had accessed everything that I had ever written, talked about or valued in my lifetime, and that I had facilitated its path by making that access easy. I will explain my rationale for the open access, and provide you with the links if you want to get to them, hoping to pre-empt those who will try to charge you for that content.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;My Open Access Policy&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I have said this before, but there is no harm in saying it again, but I am a teacher, first and foremost, and almost every choice I make in my profession life reflects that mindset. A teacher, like an actor or singer, craves an audience, and the larger and more enthusiastic that audience, the better. When I started teaching in 1986, my audience was restricted to those in my physical classroom at NYU&#39;s business school, and my initial attempts at expanding that audience were very limited. I had video recorders set up to record my lectures, made three copies of each lecture tape, and put them on the shelves at NYU&#39;s library for patrons to check out and watch. The internet, for all of its sins, changed the game for me, allowing me to share not only class materials (slides, exams) but also my lecture videos, in online formats. Though my early attempts to make these conversions were primitive, the technology for recording classes and putting them online has made a quantum leap. In spring 2025, every one of my NYU classes was recorded by cameras that are built into classroom, the conversions to online videos happened in minutes, right after the class is done, and YouTube has been a game changer, in allowing access to anyone with an internet connection anywhere in the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As the internet has expanded its reach, and social media platforms have joined the mix, I have also shared the other components that go into my classes more widely, starting with the data on industry averages that I need and use in my own valuations, the spreadsheets that contain these valuations and blog posts on markets and companies and any other tools that I use in my own analyses. While I am happy to receive compliments for the sharing and praise for being unselfish, the truth is that my sharing is driven less by altruism (I am no Mother Theresa!) and more &amp;nbsp;by two other forces. The first is that, as I noted in &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/07/country-risk-2025-story-behind-numbers.html&quot;&gt;my post on country equity risk premiums last week&lt;/a&gt;, there much of what I know or write about is pedestrian, and holding it in secret seems silly. The second is that, while I am not easily outraged, I am driven to outrage by business consultants and experts who state the obvious (replacing words you know with buzzwords and acronyms), while making outrageous claims of what they can deliver and charging their customers absurd amounts for their advice and appraisals. If I can save even a few of these customers from making these payments, I consider it to be a win.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;My Sharing Spots&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Everything that I have ever written, worked on or taught is somewhere online, almost always with no protective shields (no passwords or subscriptions), and there are four places where you can find them:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Webpage&lt;/u&gt;: The oldest platform for my content remains my webpage, &lt;a href=&quot;http://damodaran.com&quot;&gt;damodaran.com&lt;/a&gt;, and while it can be creaky, and difficult to navigate, it contains the links to my writing, teaching, data, spreadsheets and other tools.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Teaching&lt;/u&gt;: I teach two classes at Stern, &lt;i&gt;corporate finance&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;valuation&lt;/i&gt;, and have four other classes - a lead-into-valuation &lt;i&gt;accounting class&lt;/i&gt;, a made-for-finance &lt;i&gt;statistics class&lt;/i&gt;, a class on &lt;i&gt;investment philosophies&lt;/i&gt; and one on &lt;i&gt;corporate life cycles, &lt;/i&gt;and I described these classes in &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2024/12/for-fun-of-it-open-house-for-my-spring.html&quot;&gt;a post on teaching&lt;/a&gt; at the start of 2025. You can find them all by going to the teaching link on my webpage,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/teaching.html&quot;&gt;https://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/teaching.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;including my&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/regularclass.htm&quot;&gt; regular classes &lt;/a&gt;(class material, lecture notes, exams and quizzes and webcasts of the classes) in real time, as well as archived versions from previous semesters. In addition, the &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/onlineclass.htm&quot;&gt;online classes&lt;/a&gt; are at the same link, with material, post- class tests and webcasts of sessions for each class. This is also the place where you can find links to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/seminars.htm&quot;&gt;seminars that I teach in the rest of the world&lt;/a&gt;, with slides and materials that I used for those classes (though I have been tardy about updating these).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Data&lt;/u&gt;: At the start of every year for the last three decades, I have shared my analysis of data on publicly traded companies, breaking down the data into corporate finance and valuation categories. This link,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/data.html&quot;&gt;https://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/data.html&lt;/a&gt;, will take you to the entry page, and you can then either access the &lt;a href=&quot;https://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/datacurrent.html&quot;&gt;most recent data (&lt;/a&gt;from the start of 2025, since I update only once a year, for most datasets) or &lt;a href=&quot;https://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/dataarchived.html&quot;&gt;archived data&lt;/a&gt; (from previous years). My raw data comes from a variety of sources, and in the interests of not stepping on the toes of my data providers, my data usually reflects industry averages, rather than company-specific data, but it does include regional breakdowns: US, Europe, Emerging Markets (with India and China broken out individually, Australia &amp;amp; Canada &amp;amp; New Zealand) and Japan. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Spreadsheets&lt;/u&gt;: I am not an Excel ninja, and while my spreadsheet-building skills are adequate, my capacity to make them look polished is limited. I do share the spreadsheets that I use in my classes and work &lt;a href=&quot; https://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/spreadsh.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, with my most-used (by me) spreadsheet being one that I use to value most companies &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/fcffsimpleginzu.xlsx&quot;&gt;at this link&lt;/a&gt;, with a w&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufg-sMoEWNQ&amp;amp;list=PLUkh9m2BorqmRAGzJb5OIvTAKZZu9HWF-&amp;amp;index=17&quot;&gt;ebcast explaining its usage&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Books&lt;/u&gt;: I have written eleven books and co-edited one, spread out across corporate finance, valuation and investing, and you can find them all &lt;a href=&quot;https://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/public.htm&quot;&gt;listed here&lt;/a&gt;. Many of these books are in their third or fourth editions, but with each one, you should find a webpage that contains supplementary material for that book or edition (slides, answers to questions at the end of each chapter, data, spreadsheets backing the examples). This is the only section of the spreadsheet where you may encounter a gatekeeper, asking you for a password, and only if you seek access to instructor material. If you are wondering what is behind the gate, it is only the powerpoint slides, with my notes on each slide, but the pdf versions of these slides should be somewhere on the same page, without need for a password.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Papers&lt;/u&gt;: I don&#39;t much care much for academic research, but I do like to write about topics that interest or confound me, and you can find these papers &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/papers.html&quot;&gt;at this link&lt;/a&gt;. My two most widely downloaded papers are updates I do each year on the &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5168609&quot;&gt;equity risk premium (in March)&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5354459&quot;&gt;country risk premiums (in July)&lt;/a&gt;. Much of the material in these papers has made its way into one or more of my books, and thus, if you find the books unaffordable, you can get that material here for free.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;Blog posts&lt;/u&gt;: I will confess that when I write &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2008/09/first-thoughts.html&quot;&gt;my first blog post &lt;/a&gt;on September 17, 2008, I had no idea what a blog was, what I was doing with it, and whether it would last through the following week. In the years since, &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;this blog&lt;/a&gt; has become my first go-to, when I have doubts or questions about something, and I am trying to resolve those doubts for myself. In short, my blog has becoming my therapy spot, in times of uncertainty, and I have had no qualms about admitting to these doubts. During 2020, as COVID made us question almost everything we know about markets and the economy, for instance, I posted on where I was in the uncertainty spectrum every week from February 14, 2020 (when the virus became a global problem, not one restricted to China and cruise ships) to November 2020, when the vaccine appeared. You can get all of those posts in one paper, &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3799691&quot;&gt;if you click on this link&lt;/a&gt;. While my original blog was on Google, in the last two years, I have replicated these posts on &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.substack.com&quot;&gt;Substack&lt;/a&gt; (you need to be a subscriber, but it is free) and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/aswathdamodaran/&quot;&gt;on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;. If you are on the latter, you are welcome to follow me, but I have hit my connections limit (I did not even know there was one, until I hit it) and am unable to add connections.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;YouTube&lt;/u&gt;: For the last decade, I have posted my class videos on YouTube, grouping them into playlists for each class. You can start with the link to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLvnJL8htRR1T9cbSccaoVw&quot;&gt;my YouTube channel here&lt;/a&gt;, but if you are interested in taking a class, my suggestion is that you click on the playlists and pick on the one that corresponds to the class. Here, for instance, are my links to my &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6-suY_Ur4w&amp;amp;list=PLUkh9m2BorqkgpNyRpP-NL3BS4yvFabXk&quot;&gt;Spring 2025 MBA valuation class&lt;/a&gt; and my &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N91AXV7LMrg&amp;amp;list=PLUkh9m2Borqn549nqiEOyFRIvqs4_P3d0&quot;&gt;Spring 2025 Corporate Finance class&lt;/a&gt;. Starting about a decade, I have also accompanied every one of my blog posts with a YouTube video, that contains the same material, and you can find those posts in its &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTDZCLjCa-E&amp;amp;list=PLUkh9m2Borqk3IDRAWNFvMqVqlJDVtcd-&quot;&gt;own (very long) playlist&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;X (Twitter)&lt;/u&gt;: Some of you have strong feelings about X, with some of those feelings reflecting your political leanings and others driven by the sometimes toxic posting on the platform. I have been a &lt;a href=&quot;https://x.com/aswathdamodaran?lang=en&quot;&gt;user of the platform since April 2009&lt;/a&gt;, and I have used it as a bulletin board, to alert people to content being posted elsewhere. In fact, outside of these &quot;alert&quot; posts, I almost never post on X, and steer away as far away as I can from debates and discussions on the platform, since a version of Gresham&#39;s law seems to kick in, where the worst and least informed posters hijack the debate and take it in directions that you do not want it to go.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I cannot think of a single item of content that I have produced in the last decade that is not on one of these platforms, making my professional life an open book, and thus also accessible to any AI entity. The Damodaran bot that I wrote about last year has access to all of this material, and while I signed off on that and one other variant, there are multiple unauthorized versions that have been works-in-progress.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Commonalities&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; My content has taken many forms including posts, videos, data and spreadsheets, and is on multiple platforms, but there are a few common features that they share:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Low tech&lt;/u&gt;: I am decidedly low tech, and it shows in my sharing. My website looks like it was designed two decades ago, because it was, and contains none of the bells and whistles that make for a modern website. My blog remains on Google blogger, notwithstanding everything I have been told about how using WordPress would make it more attractive/adaptable, and my posts are neither short nor punchy. Every week, I get people reaching out to me to tell me that my YouTube videos are far too long and verbose, and that I would get more people watching with shorter videos and catchier descriptions, and much as I appreciate their offers to help, I have not taken them up on it., In addition, I shoot almost every one of my videos in my office, sometimes with my dog in the background, and often with ambient noise and mistakes embedded, making them definitely unpolished. &amp;nbsp;On twitter, I have only recently taken to stringing tweets together and I have never used the long text version that some professional twitter users have mastered. In my defense, I could always claim that I am too old to learn new tricks, but the truth is that I did not start any of my sharing as a means to acquiring a larger social media following, and it may very well be true that keeping my presence low-tech operates as a screener, repelling mismatched users.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Process over product&lt;/u&gt;: In my writing and teaching, I am often taken to task for not getting to the bottom line (Is the stock cheap or expensive? Should I buy or sell?) quickly, and spending so much time on the why and how, as opposed to the what. Much as my verbosity may frustrate you, it reflects what I think my job is as a teacher, which is to be transparent about process, i.e., explain how I reasoned my way to getting an answer than giving you my answer.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Pragmatism over Purity&lt;/u&gt;: Though I am often criticized for being an “academic”, I am a terrible one, and if there were an academic fraternity, I would be shunned. I view much of an academic research as navel gazing, and almost everything I write and teach is for practitioners. Consequently, I am quick to adapt and modify models to make them fit both reality and the available data, and make assumptions that would make a purist blanch.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;No stock picks or investment advice&lt;/u&gt;: In all my years of writing about and valuing markets and individual stocks, I have tried my best to steer away from making stock picks or offering investment advice. That may sound odd, since so much of what I do relates to valuation, and the essence of valuation is that you act on your estimates of value, but here is how I explain the contradiction. I value stocks (like Meta or Nvidia or Amazon or Mercado Libre) and I act (buy or sell) those stocks, based on my valuations, but it is neither my place nor my role to try to get other people to do the same. That said, I will share my story and valuation spreadsheet with you, and if you want to adapt that story/spreadsheet to make it your own, I am at peace with that choice, even if it is different from mine. The essence of good investing is taking ownership of your investment actions, and it is antithetical to that view of the world for me or anyone else to be telling you what to buy or sell.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;No commercial entanglements&lt;/u&gt;: If you do explore my content on any of the platforms it is available on, you will notice that &lt;i&gt;they are free&lt;/i&gt;, both in terms of what you pay and how you access them. In fact, none of them are monetized, and if you do see ads on my YouTube videos, it is Google that is collecting the revenue, not me. One reason for this practice is that I am lazy, and monetizing any of these platforms requires jumping through hoops and catering to advertisers that I neither have the time nor the inclination to do. The other is that I believe (though this may be more hope than truth) that one of the reasons that people read what I write or listen to me is because, much as they may disagree with me, I am perceived as (relatively) unbiased. I fear that formalizing a link with any commercial entity (bank, consultant, investor), whether as advisor, consultant or as director, opens the door to the perception of bias. The one exception to the &quot;no commercial entranglements&#39; clause is for my teaching engagements, with the &lt;a href=&quot;https://execed.stern.nyu.edu/collections/online-certificate-courses-with-professor-aswath-damodaran&quot;&gt;NYU Certificate program&lt;/a&gt; and for the handful of valuation seminars I teach in person in the rest of the world. I am grateful that NYU has allowed me to share my class recordings with the world, and I will not begrudge them whatever they make on my certificate classes, though I do offer the same content for free online, on my webpage. I am also indebted to the people and organizations that manage the logistics of my seminars in the rest of the world, and if I can make their life easier by posting about these seminars, I will do so.&lt;span style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Imitation Game&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;Given that my end game in sharing is to give access to people who want to use my material, I have generally taken a lax view of others borrowing my slides, data, spreadsheets or even webcasts, for their own purposes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;For the most part, I categorize this borrowing as &lt;b&gt;good neighbor sharing&lt;/b&gt;, where just as I would lend a neighbor a key cooking ingredient to save them the trouble of a trip to the grocery store, I am at peace with someone using my material to help in their teaching, save time on a valuation or a corporate finance project, prepare for an interview, or even burnish their credentials. An acknowledgement, when this happens, is much appreciated, but I don&#39;t take it personally when none is forthcoming.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;There are &lt;b&gt;less benign&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;copycat&lt;/b&gt; versions of the imitation game - selectively using data from my site to back up arguments, misreading or misinterpreting what I have said and reproducing large portions of my writing without acknowledgement. To be honest, if made aware of these transgressions, I have gently nudged the culprits, but I don&#39;t have a legal hammer to follow up.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The most malignant variations of this game are &lt;b&gt;scams&lt;/b&gt;, where the scammers use my content or name to separate people from their money - the education companies that used my YouTube videos and charge for classes, the data sites that copy my data or spreadsheets and sell them to people, and the valuation/investment sites that try to get people to invest money, with my name as a draw. Until now, I have tried, as best as I can, to let people know that they are being victimized, but for the most part, these scams have been so badly designed that they have tended to collapse under the weight of their own contradictions.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is clear to me that AI is now going to change this game, and that I will have to think about new ways to counter its insidious reach. To get a measure of what the current AI scams that are making the rounds get right and wrong, I did take the time to take a closer look at both the Instagram post and the fake video that are making the rounds.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul data-en-clipboard=&quot;true&quot; data-pm-slice=&quot;3 5 []&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;What they get right&lt;/i&gt;: The Instagram post, which is in shown below, uses language that clearly is drawn from my posts and an image that is clearly mine.&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhlBqW0SGJiMcPzORbt6slvS0lHnYxS6JjvoZnFdWvy1Zy_hW3mk7iEqKHqiI9NwObqyf7qlpXStBHRjdTBqWEyoRFRA5D1dx_Xgjwz2E0SnZnv2UW5LhSGK6soBXtxYmRzjqirnt4ck7Y2kWKWxADrj_WiJ4EsKfQF_DeHKIgecCNS1h9LUTyUM_RPFxk/s4448/FacebookScam.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;3274&quot; data-original-width=&quot;4448&quot; height=&quot;294&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhlBqW0SGJiMcPzORbt6slvS0lHnYxS6JjvoZnFdWvy1Zy_hW3mk7iEqKHqiI9NwObqyf7qlpXStBHRjdTBqWEyoRFRA5D1dx_Xgjwz2E0SnZnv2UW5LhSGK6soBXtxYmRzjqirnt4ck7Y2kWKWxADrj_WiJ4EsKfQF_DeHKIgecCNS1h9LUTyUM_RPFxk/w400-h294/FacebookScam.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Not only does this post reflect the way I write, but it also picked Nvidia and &amp;nbsp;Palantir as the two firms to highlight, &amp;nbsp;the first a company that I own and have valued on my blog, and the second a company that I have been talking about as one that I am interested in owning, at the right price, giving it a patina of authenticity. The video looks and sounds like me, which should be no surprise since it had thousands of hours of YouTube videos to use as raw data. Using a yiddish word that I picked up in my days in New York, I have the give the scammers credit for chutzpah, on this front,, but I will take a notch off the grade, for the video&#39;s slickness, since my videos have much more of a homemade feel to them. &lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdB52gDFcpwtRnNuow1GPT0OL3GS8_aypihY4vajaGTVN6F8gfAX-F-6MLipmlO5GYSdY_0t17KguMgK4owWifcBmFfStcWNI0ZK2WOU_Hwz3eyglQa38OPCGBkcG6E6CFoiiYALs74v-hUYUyExbIuoK5C7EF6OGhqykge0dygOMEipBadauVG3aVjxI/s532/GradeonLook.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;69&quot; data-original-width=&quot;532&quot; height=&quot;53&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjdB52gDFcpwtRnNuow1GPT0OL3GS8_aypihY4vajaGTVN6F8gfAX-F-6MLipmlO5GYSdY_0t17KguMgK4owWifcBmFfStcWNI0ZK2WOU_Hwz3eyglQa38OPCGBkcG6E6CFoiiYALs74v-hUYUyExbIuoK5C7EF6OGhqykge0dygOMEipBadauVG3aVjxI/w400-h53/GradeonLook.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;What they struggled with most&lt;/i&gt;: The scam does mention that Palantir is &quot;overhyped&quot;, a word that I use rarely, and while it talks about the company’s valuation, it is cagey about what that value is and there is little of substance to back up the claim. Palantir is a fascinating company, but to value it, you need a story of a data/software firm, with two channels for value creation, one of which looks at the government as a customer (a lower-margin, stickier and lower growth business) and the other at its commercial market (higher margin, more volatile and higher growth). Each of the stories has shades of grey, with the potential for overlap and conflict, but this is not a company where you can extrapolate the past, slap numbers on revenue growth and profitability, and arrive at a value. This post not only does not provide any tangible backing for its words in terms of value, but it does not even try. If these scammers had truly wanted to pull this off, they could have made their AI bot take my class, construct a plausible Palantir story, put it into my valuation spreadsheet and provide it as a link.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJqMPVGjVYKtneqzzHzLd3tOgRgkUdK2K12jU3YZ7YOOLLANmgiggMnOPHFJ9A33MWJ9h-6-ciJaYYG07ThBHdjZQpd3D73yaXixQOAIuL1DvCZB-Bmr5rmS182DLZ79Mu_WICF1z8XgjJ1yyn3b-IMen-Tip3zMBj5-_AMhsiXv22hvL7El8jBVWdGT8/s535/GradeContent.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;69&quot; data-original-width=&quot;535&quot; height=&quot;51&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJqMPVGjVYKtneqzzHzLd3tOgRgkUdK2K12jU3YZ7YOOLLANmgiggMnOPHFJ9A33MWJ9h-6-ciJaYYG07ThBHdjZQpd3D73yaXixQOAIuL1DvCZB-Bmr5rmS182DLZ79Mu_WICF1z8XgjJ1yyn3b-IMen-Tip3zMBj5-_AMhsiXv22hvL7El8jBVWdGT8/w400-h51/GradeContent.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;What they get wron&lt;/i&gt;g: To get a sense of what this post gets wrong, you should revisit the earlier part of the post where I talk about my sharing philosophy, and with as much distance as I can muster, here are the false notes in this scam. First, this scam pushes people to join an investment club, where I will presumably guide them on what to buy or sell. Given that my view of clubs is very much that of Groucho Marx, which is that I would not be belong to any club which would admit me as a member, the notion of telling people which stocks to buy cuts against every grain of my being. Second, there is a part of this scam where I purportedly promise investors who decide to partake that they will generate returns of 60% or higher, and as someone who has chronicled that not only do most active investors not keep up with the market, and argued that anyone who promises to deliver substantially more than the market in the long term is either a liar or fraud, this is clearly not me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgvObKP7YIRSyzOse4SQFNcyhkmutxPFwZMah470P0l48nMy8JDk-VNXf_HlAfEP8L9r2Oxaqx0Zh2idMnNI3EdxMRWb2HxfW4QS-B8jqduxXTbYwlf8gMEx2L4ELVMApuVzBzXMPpGwS07EKmb8ZdzWyKD64-0vsXUefWoBhBGfvPuq1E4WdaeQqAE8Zc/s534/GradeMessage.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;72&quot; data-original-width=&quot;534&quot; height=&quot;54&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgvObKP7YIRSyzOse4SQFNcyhkmutxPFwZMah470P0l48nMy8JDk-VNXf_HlAfEP8L9r2Oxaqx0Zh2idMnNI3EdxMRWb2HxfW4QS-B8jqduxXTbYwlf8gMEx2L4ELVMApuVzBzXMPpGwS07EKmb8ZdzWyKD64-0vsXUefWoBhBGfvPuq1E4WdaeQqAE8Zc/w400-h54/GradeMessage.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In sum, there is good news and bad news in this grading assessment. The good news is that this AI scam gets my language and look right, but it is sloppily done in terms of content and capturing who I am as a person. The bad news is that it if this scammer was less lazy and more willing to put in some work, even with the current state of AI, it would have been easy to bring up the grades on content and message. I will wager that the Damodaran Bot that I mentioned earlier on in this post that is being developed at NYU Stern would have created a post that would have been much more difficult for you to detect as fake, making it a Frankenstein monster perhaps in the making. The worse news is that AI technology is evolving, and it will get better on every one of these fronts at imitating others, and you should prepare yourself for a deluge of investment scams.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;An AI Protective Shield&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;I did think long about writing this post, wondering whether it would make a difference. After all, if you are a frequent reader of this blog or have read this post all the way down to this point, it is unlikely that you were fooled by the Instagram post or video. It remains an uncomfortable truth that the people most exposed to these scams are the ones who have read little or none of what I have written, and I wish there were a way that I could pass on the following suggestions on how they can protect themselves against the other fakes and scams that will undoubtedly be directed at them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol data-en-clipboard=&quot;true&quot; data-pm-slice=&quot;3 3 []&quot; style=&quot;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li dfsfontsizes=&quot;{&amp;quot;h1&amp;quot;:25,&amp;quot;h2&amp;quot;:20,&amp;quot;h3&amp;quot;:18,&amp;quot;p&amp;quot;:15}&quot; draggable=&quot;false&quot; firstlettertextkind=&quot;p&quot; listnestinglevel=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Looks &amp;amp; sounds like&quot; not good enough&lt;/i&gt;: Having seen the flood of fake AI videos in the news and on social media, I hope that you have concluded that “looks and sounds Iike” is no longer good enough to meet the authenticity test. This remains AI’s strongest suit, especially in the hands of the garden variety scammer, and you should prepare yourself for more fake videos, with political figures, investing luminaries and experts targeted.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li dfsfontsizes=&quot;{&amp;quot;h1&amp;quot;:25,&amp;quot;h2&amp;quot;:20,&amp;quot;h3&amp;quot;:18,&amp;quot;p&amp;quot;:15}&quot; draggable=&quot;false&quot; firstlettertextkind=&quot;p&quot; listnestinglevel=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Steer away from arrogance &amp;amp; hype&lt;/i&gt;: I have always been skeptical of the notion that there is “smart” money, composed of investors who know more than the rest of us and are able to beat the market consistently, and for long periods. For the most part, when you see a group of investors (hedge funds, private equity) beating the market, luck is more of a contributor as skill, and success is fleeting. In a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpURkpm9iVM&quot;&gt;talk on the topic&lt;/a&gt;, I argued that investors should steer away from arrogance and bombast, and towards humility, when it comes to who they trust with their money, and that applies in spades in the world of AI scams. Since most scammers don’t understand the subtlety of this idea, screening investment sales pitches for outlandish claims alone will eliminate most scams.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li dfsfontsizes=&quot;{&amp;quot;h1&amp;quot;:25,&amp;quot;h2&amp;quot;:20,&amp;quot;h3&amp;quot;:18,&amp;quot;p&amp;quot;:15}&quot; draggable=&quot;false&quot; firstlettertextkind=&quot;p&quot; listnestinglevel=&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;div draggable=&quot;false&quot; style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Do your homework&lt;/i&gt;: If you decide to invest with someone, based upon a virtual meet or sales pitch, you should do your homework and that goes well beyond asking for their track records in terms of performance. In my class on investment philosophies, I talk about how great investors through the ages have had very different views of markets and ways of making money, but each one has had an investment philosophy that is unique, consistent and well thought through. It is malpractice to invest with anyone, no matter what their reputation for earning high returns, without understanding that person’s investment philosophy, and this understanding will also give you a template for spotting fakes using that person’s name.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Avoid ROMO &amp;amp; FOMO&lt;/i&gt;: In my investing classes, I talk about the damage that ROMO (regret over missing out) and FOMO (fear of missing out) can do to investor psyches and portfolio.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With ROMO (regret over missing out), where you look back in time and regret not buying Facebook at its IPO price in 2012 or selling your bitcoin in &amp;nbsp;November 2013, when it hit $1000, you expose yourself to two emotions. The first is &lt;i&gt;jealousy&lt;/i&gt;, especially at those who did buy Facebook at its IPO or have held on to their bitcoin to see its price hit six digits. The second is that you start buying into &lt;i&gt;conspiracy theories&lt;/i&gt;, where you convince yourself that these winners (at least in the rear view mirror) were able to win, because the game was fixed in their favor. Both make you susceptible to chasing after past winners, and easy prey for vendors of conspiracies.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;With FOMO (fear of missing out), your overwhelming concern is that you will miss the next big multi-bagger, an investment that will increase five or ten fold over the next year or two. The emotion that is triggered is &lt;i&gt;greed&lt;/i&gt;, leading you to overreach in your investing, cycling through your investments, as most of them fall short of your unrealistic expectations, and searching for the next “big thing”, making you susceptible to anyone offering a pathway to get there.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;Much as we think of scammers as the criminals and the scammed as the victims, the truth is that scams are more akin to tangos, where each side needs the other. The scammer’s techniques work because they trigger the emotions (fear, greed) of the scammed, to respond, and AI will only make this easier to do. 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As with some of my other data updates, I have mixed feelings about publishing these numbers. On the one hand, I have no qualms about sharing these estimates, which I use when I value companies, because there is no secret sauce or special insight embedded in them. On the other, I worry about people using these premiums in their valuations, without understanding the choices and assumptions that I had to make to get to them. Country risk, in particular, has many components to it, and while you have to ultimately capture them in numbers, I wanted to use this post to draw attention to the many layers of risk that separate countries. I hope, and especially if you are a user of my risk premiums, that you read this post, and if you do have the time and the stomach, a &lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5354459&quot;&gt;more detailed and much longer update that I write every year&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Country Risk - Dimensions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; When assessing business risk from operating in a country, you will be affected by uncertainty that arises from almost every source, with concerns about political structure (democracies have very different risk profiles than authoritarian regimes), exposure to violence (affecting both costs and revenues), &amp;nbsp;corruption (which operates an implicit tax) and legal systems (enforcing ownership rights) all playing out in business risk.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1aCDmb2O0nawZxIRKeei-zL45HqMjUxxqmWwheFhtkMVj1Fya08ur0olBnAQhBeCZ6Ez0F3POQ1BuK7No8p89i3CWq8-bevXhVMGTDwhlJ2U2zJQu41wNjJodtEwP241-rGYBhyMYDeB7wmvp7QbYvegvccmv3HRwqgZDW0oVzRYEW4qsmRu3i_bew2Q/s1392/CountryRiskDrivers.jpeg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1000&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1392&quot; height=&quot;288&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1aCDmb2O0nawZxIRKeei-zL45HqMjUxxqmWwheFhtkMVj1Fya08ur0olBnAQhBeCZ6Ez0F3POQ1BuK7No8p89i3CWq8-bevXhVMGTDwhlJ2U2zJQu41wNjJodtEwP241-rGYBhyMYDeB7wmvp7QbYvegvccmv3HRwqgZDW0oVzRYEW4qsmRu3i_bew2Q/w400-h288/CountryRiskDrivers.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;I will start with &lt;b&gt;political structure&lt;/b&gt;, where the facile answer is that it less risky to operate a business in a democracy than in an authoritarian regime, but where the often unpalatable truth is that each structure brings its own risks.&amp;nbsp;With democracies, the risk is that newly elected governments can revisit, modify or discard policies that a previous government have adopted, requiring businesses to adapt and change to continuous changes in policy. In contrast, an authoritarian government can provide long term policy continuity, with the catch being that changes in the government, though infrequent, can create wrenching policy shifts that businesses have to learn to live with. Keeping the contrast between the continuous risk of operating in a democracy and the discontinuous risk in an authoritarian structure in mind, take a look at this picture of how the world looked in terms of democracy leading into 2025:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVT2a9FKjXtSTHv9e2Ryvs2nJIpV_YBhaop8_4DKnyN3G3p7HzUOsbyRj4WTtJZYbYee-Z6XjW_LFy-WvSpK69Wl8mGgYtdwpNNIOJPKGTsbsjz0ULXEQIueLTJMgZN_uf570mfYXL6VoeT4UcOzwbLlNBxogi6DqkzARtDMbZnwJ_pjuMH5ss3J7X71M/s1602/DemocracyIndex2024.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;906&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1602&quot; height=&quot;226&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVT2a9FKjXtSTHv9e2Ryvs2nJIpV_YBhaop8_4DKnyN3G3p7HzUOsbyRj4WTtJZYbYee-Z6XjW_LFy-WvSpK69Wl8mGgYtdwpNNIOJPKGTsbsjz0ULXEQIueLTJMgZN_uf570mfYXL6VoeT4UcOzwbLlNBxogi6DqkzARtDMbZnwJ_pjuMH5ss3J7X71M/w400-h226/DemocracyIndex2024.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.eiu.com/n/campaigns/democracy-index-2024/&quot;&gt;Source: Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;It is worth noting that there are judgment calls that the Economist made in measuring democracy that you and I might disagree with, but not only is a large proportion of the world under authoritarian rule, but the trend lines on this dimension &amp;nbsp;also have been towards more authoritarianism in the last decade. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;On the second dimension, &lt;b&gt;exposure to violence&lt;/b&gt;, the effects on business are manifold. In addition to the threat that violence can affect operations, its presence shows up as higher operating costs (providing security for employees and factories) and as insurance costs (if the risks can be insured). To measure exposure to violence, from both internal and external sources, I draw on measures developed and updated by the Institute of &amp;nbsp;Economics &amp;amp; Peace across countries in 2024:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNEJQC9cZg1kl-wFnfYtneeE98LXCfdIVl2R5WgSv1M773SlzV9iG7IsTnhASxVLZloj7EiVdJGcL8Q1MTGtBrP7J81ZoSVzExCfncXCeFQhliqTAUKOCoFG5QyAv3TGpdQmQLcB6x_BXq5HY47MBndAtnKAiucaUny6FTP6na1jjs1euFuivk3_nEmiI/s5068/GlobapPeaceHeatMap.jpeg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2280&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5068&quot; height=&quot;180&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNEJQC9cZg1kl-wFnfYtneeE98LXCfdIVl2R5WgSv1M773SlzV9iG7IsTnhASxVLZloj7EiVdJGcL8Q1MTGtBrP7J81ZoSVzExCfncXCeFQhliqTAUKOCoFG5QyAv3TGpdQmQLcB6x_BXq5HY47MBndAtnKAiucaUny6FTP6na1jjs1euFuivk3_nEmiI/w400-h180/GlobapPeaceHeatMap.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.economicsandpeace.org/global-peace-index/&quot;&gt;Institute of Economics &amp;amp; Peace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The Russia-Ukraine war has caused risk to flare up in the surrounding states and the Middle East and central Africa continue to be risk cauldrons, but at least according to the Institute&#39;s measures, the parts of the world that are least exposed to violence are in Northern Europe, Australia and Canada. Again, there are judgments that are made in computing these scores that will lead you to disagree with specific country measures (according the Peace Institute, the United States and Brazil have higher exposures to violence than Argentina and Chile, and India has more exposure to violence than China), but the bottom line is that there are significant differences in exposure to violence across the world.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;b&gt;Corruption&lt;/b&gt; is a concern for everyone, but for businesses, it manifests in two ways. First, it puts more honest business operators at a disadvantage in a corrupt environment, since they are less willing to break the rules and go along with corrupt practices than their less scrupulous competitors. Second, even for those businesses that are willing to play the corruption game, it creates costs that I would liken to an implicit tax that reduces profits, cash flows and value. The measure of corruption that I use comes from Transparency International, and leading into July 2025, and the heat map below captures corruption scores (with higher scores indicating less corruption), as well as the ten most and least corrupt countries in the world:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjHdQsCqrd2ZDSFPxhjnjQarxMCgmcDsWm_8XobUoJ3HBV-zL3xWKk3jYVl7YmkezVcIghHnp7vfnSWoKaH6Myv175oJNSmlAWWipWa9KkU-WeVMmyEUadcuuOau3QPOhJC4gefN5HN-rWDdKUYdlULJrriNGgLDqozcq2klLgYgwHDZ2j9E0eEOJeUw8w/s5066/CorruptionMap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;3576&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5066&quot; height=&quot;283&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjHdQsCqrd2ZDSFPxhjnjQarxMCgmcDsWm_8XobUoJ3HBV-zL3xWKk3jYVl7YmkezVcIghHnp7vfnSWoKaH6Myv175oJNSmlAWWipWa9KkU-WeVMmyEUadcuuOau3QPOhJC4gefN5HN-rWDdKUYdlULJrriNGgLDqozcq2klLgYgwHDZ2j9E0eEOJeUw8w/w400-h283/CorruptionMap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024&quot;&gt;Transparency International&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;As you can see from the map, there are vast swaths of the world where businesses have to deal with corruption in almost every aspect of business, and while some may attribute this to cultural factors, I have &lt;a href=&quot;https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/04/governments-and-value-iii-bribery.html&quot;&gt;long argued that corruption almost inevitably follows in bureaucratic settings&lt;/a&gt;, where you need licenses and approvals for even the most trivial of actions, and the bureaucrats (who make the licensing decisions) are paid a pittance relative to the businesses that they regulate.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; As a final component, I look at&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;legal systems&lt;/b&gt;, especially when it comes to enforcing contractual agreements and property rights, central to running successful businesses. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Here, I used estimates from the IPRI, a non-profit institution that measures the quality of legal systems around the world. In their latest rankings from 2024, here is how countries measured up in 2024:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7mwlytPpllZyWt9FjpPAIH00qJjoYd4WqRSD3cIp8F8FYvV0xJ4LVH2FHXJMp9ixGkC5ZHpsYX6Xwm9Lm9UqXDvCqjVb3AMIm3E_zIIvPSfTRmaxMrI1CSDFF1IvRJEZHbKRqh0MSwHF5BrFDzlhTDacuLPSpbB1FonacMZNXE0KlksaLDXUpLSFOheY/s1974/IPRItable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1974&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1638&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7mwlytPpllZyWt9FjpPAIH00qJjoYd4WqRSD3cIp8F8FYvV0xJ4LVH2FHXJMp9ixGkC5ZHpsYX6Xwm9Lm9UqXDvCqjVb3AMIm3E_zIIvPSfTRmaxMrI1CSDFF1IvRJEZHbKRqh0MSwHF5BrFDzlhTDacuLPSpbB1FonacMZNXE0KlksaLDXUpLSFOheY/w333-h400/IPRItable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;333&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024&quot;&gt;Property Rights Alliance&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In making these assessments, you have to consider not just the laws in place but also the timeliness with which these laws get enforced, since a legal system where justice is delayed for years or even decades is almost as bad as one that is capricious and biased.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Country Risk - Measures&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;The simplest and most longstanding measure of country risk takes the form of &lt;b&gt;sovereign ratings&lt;/b&gt;, with the same agencies that rate companies (S&amp;amp;P, Moody&#39;s and Fitch) also rating countries, with the ratings ranging from Aaa (safest) to D (in default). The number of countries with sovereign ratings available on them has surged in the last few decades; Moody’s rated 13 countries in 1985, but that number increased to 143 in 2025, with the figure below listing the number of rated countries over time:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjvbZ2c46TpfouiUcIic11x7l-G7Ig10fOtuJiX0CpKrwmUs_OXhE05f6VATlaw9DnEdn4CPuiKjMvRf_hs7m1rQ6oajgpKZcTc-o1oRz6kqnx4cnS6rfwVR77B3GjHvhxC7JNRNzE0fJW6z0dLVl-o084MlTJCAsJ85F9_Fv8VKb1eZoVQQg16T3Sv18g/s1690/Moody&#39;sNoRated.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1232&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1690&quot; height=&quot;291&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjvbZ2c46TpfouiUcIic11x7l-G7Ig10fOtuJiX0CpKrwmUs_OXhE05f6VATlaw9DnEdn4CPuiKjMvRf_hs7m1rQ6oajgpKZcTc-o1oRz6kqnx4cnS6rfwVR77B3GjHvhxC7JNRNzE0fJW6z0dLVl-o084MlTJCAsJ85F9_Fv8VKb1eZoVQQg16T3Sv18g/w400-h291/Moody&#39;sNoRated.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that that the number of Aaa rated countries stayed at eleven, even while more countries were rated, and has dropped from fifteen just a decade ago, with the UK and France losing their Aaa ratings during that period. In May 2025, Moody&#39;s downgraded the United States, bringing them in line with the other ratings agencies; S&amp;amp;P downgraded the US in 2011 and Fitch in 2023. The heat map below captures sovereign ratings across the world in July 2025:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLr4Rb-KObtPgYOlguzOaRRMN98vT6ln0ufBngKQ4bv5yU88ek9DLkngTUigb_h4F7f2ghEuhkj_HIXpffbHbGciDbmE4N65LuAER5maHtqT4Q4sc0wz4LBtGDs8RoYLLk5Sg4YiRd4A0ORklOyF-w94qXcqKfaMQ7VsUz_v1o2HXA4wAqOZSBkphB7Ts/s5868/SovrRatingsHeatMap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;5868&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5090&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLr4Rb-KObtPgYOlguzOaRRMN98vT6ln0ufBngKQ4bv5yU88ek9DLkngTUigb_h4F7f2ghEuhkj_HIXpffbHbGciDbmE4N65LuAER5maHtqT4Q4sc0wz4LBtGDs8RoYLLk5Sg4YiRd4A0ORklOyF-w94qXcqKfaMQ7VsUz_v1o2HXA4wAqOZSBkphB7Ts/w348-h400/SovrRatingsHeatMap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;348&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.moodys.com/Pages/rr005_0.aspx?bd=005005&amp;amp;ed=4294966623&amp;amp;rd=&amp;amp;tb=0&amp;amp;po=0&amp;amp;lang=en&amp;amp;cy=global&amp;amp;kw=&quot;&gt;Moody&#39;s&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;While sovereign ratings are useful risk measures, they do come with caveats. First, their focus on default risk can lead them to be misleading measures of overall country risk, especially in countries that have political risk issues but not much default risk; the Middle East, for instance, has high sovereign ratings. Second, the ratings agencies have blind spots, and some have critiqued these agencies for overrating European countries and underrating Asian, African and Latin American countries. Third, ratings agencies are often slow to react to events on the ground, and ratings changes, when they do occur, often lag changes in default risk.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you are leery about trusting ratings agencies, I understand your distrust, and there is an alternative measure of sovereign default risk, at least for about half of all countries, and that is the &lt;b&gt;sovereign credit default swap (CDS)&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;market, which investors can buy protection against country default. These market-determined numbers will reflect events on the ground almost instantaneously, albeit with more volatility than ratings. At the end of June 2025, there were about 80 countries with sovereign CDS available on them, and the figure below captures the values:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiPqPHe5xRhx4jB03iB0VkIdLbuM1piOxAhUPMjOUCVlFTNf7TwlJhalsR8D-RFyPydTzDzjRvvDaD5DDs3cLpVbHtvEPSEOcZcs1VzbHK51ny5mHDTdAJzvUJsQQ9sfXKRXWdkTJF-dbRSpg9OfG16FqSl09qTXTjT80T7J4k8x21eP8bYU7rtdxJGmbg/s5068/SovrCDSHeatMap.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;4970&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5068&quot; height=&quot;393&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiPqPHe5xRhx4jB03iB0VkIdLbuM1piOxAhUPMjOUCVlFTNf7TwlJhalsR8D-RFyPydTzDzjRvvDaD5DDs3cLpVbHtvEPSEOcZcs1VzbHK51ny5mHDTdAJzvUJsQQ9sfXKRXWdkTJF-dbRSpg9OfG16FqSl09qTXTjT80T7J4k8x21eP8bYU7rtdxJGmbg/w400-h393/SovrCDSHeatMap.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;The sovereign CDS spreads are more timely, but as with all market-set numbers, they are subject to mood and momentum swings, and I find using them in conjunction with ratings gives me a better sense of sovereign default risk.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If default risk seems like to provide too narrow a focus on countr risk, you can consider using &lt;b&gt;country risk scores&lt;/b&gt;, which at least in principle, incorporate other components of country risk. There are many services that estimate country risk scores, including the Economist and the World Bank, but I have long used Political Risk Services (PRS) for my scores.. The PRS country risk scores go from low to high, with the low scores indicative of more country risk, and the table below captures the world (at least according to PRS):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgk1f6l8FltDM_VZCCKcBaFRlFMznUWyNDWAqR8GVSnCsUaEUbXNVFkJILVJOcWRvoete2lp6Y2PFy6c7g7HkljkKmpfZYcr77w65v8h-p8X1vz8xEAk9ImYUYaQuxppS_SZ5T314m2Aj1ICjS-IqZbSNzy4XGn68-KtWLT5YmpOLAD7RxVhs9396g-Kkw/s2820/PRSTable.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2275&quot; data-original-width=&quot;2820&quot; height=&quot;323&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgk1f6l8FltDM_VZCCKcBaFRlFMznUWyNDWAqR8GVSnCsUaEUbXNVFkJILVJOcWRvoete2lp6Y2PFy6c7g7HkljkKmpfZYcr77w65v8h-p8X1vz8xEAk9ImYUYaQuxppS_SZ5T314m2Aj1ICjS-IqZbSNzy4XGn68-KtWLT5YmpOLAD7RxVhs9396g-Kkw/w400-h323/PRSTable.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.prsgroup.com/explore-our-products/icrg/&quot;&gt;Political Risk Services (PRS)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;There are some puzzling numbers here, &amp;nbsp;with the United States coming in as riskier than Vietnam and Libya, but that is one reason why country risk scores have never acquired traction. They vary across services, often reflecting judgments and choices made by each service, and there is no easy way to convert these scores into usable numbers in business and valuation or compare them across services.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Country Risk - Equity Risk Premiums&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;My interest in country risk stems almost entirely from my work in corporate finance and valuation, since this risk finds its way into the costs of equity and capital that are critical ingredients in both disciplines. To estimate the cost of equity for an investment in a risky country. I will not claim that the approaches I use to compute equity risk premiums for countries are either original or brilliant, but they do have the benefit of consistency, since I have used them every year (with an update at the start of the year and mid-year) since the 1990s.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The process starts with my estimate of the&lt;i&gt; implied equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500&lt;/i&gt;, and I make this choice not for parochial reasons but because getting the raw data that you need for the implied equity risk premium is easiest to get for the S&amp;amp;P 500, the most widely tracked index in the world. In particular, the process requires data on dividends and stock buybacks on the stocks in the index, as well as expected growth in these cash flows over time, and involves finding the discount rate (internal rate of return) that makes the present value of cash flows equal to the level of the index. On June 30, 2025, this assessment generated an expected return of 8.45% for the index:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;980&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1568&quot; height=&quot;250&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhRp0qHlHo23V_erEnOCMog8EqLgFhCxR49w2qo11bUj4n3fYgKIkaGdCG7QEnZB40YZDYnQczq7kAT2JsQzJRNhAIR76EyL0tNTvQ37Ai2oh3RC2yoHKcGi8QJoyhUNn9VQQKyxiU34A5hF5ceRWnRUG_SLMs9yI5nGu_lN3X7Lv9qiPHYZe7cxn7hPQ/w400-h250/USImplERP.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJuly25.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download ERP spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Until May 2025, I just subtracted the US 10-year treasury bond rate from this expected return, to get to an implied equity risk premium for the index, with the rationale that the US T.Bond rate is the riskfree rate in US dollars. The Moody’s downgrade of the US from Aaa to Aa1 has thrown a wrench into the process, since it implies that the T.Bond rate has some default risk associated with it, and thus incorporates a default spread. To remove that risk, I net out the default spread associated with Aa1 rating from the treasury rate to arrive at a riskfree rate in dollars and an equity risk premium based on that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Riskfree rate in US dollars &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;= T.Bond rate minus Default Spread for Aa1 rating&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; = 4.24% - 0.27% = 3.97%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;Implied equity risk premium for US = Expected return on S&amp;amp;P 500 minus US $ riskfree rate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; =&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;8.45% - 3.97% = 4.48%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that this approach to estimating equity risk premiums is model agnostic and reflects what investors are demanding in the market, rather than making a judgment on whether the premium is right or what it should be (which I leave to market timers).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;To get the equity risk premiums for other countries, I need a &lt;i&gt;base premium for a mature market&lt;/i&gt;, i.e., one that has no additional country risk, and here again, the US downgrade has thrown a twist into the process. Rather than use the US equity risk premium as my estimate of the mature market premium, my practice in every update through the start of 2025, I adjusted that premium (4.48%) down to take out the US default spread (0.27%), to arrive at the &lt;i&gt;mature market premium of 4.21%&lt;/i&gt;. That then becomes the equity risk premium for the eleven&amp;nbsp;countries that continue to have Aaa ratings, but for all other countries, I &lt;i&gt;estimate default spreads based upon their sovereign ratings&lt;/i&gt;. As a final adjustment, I &lt;i&gt;scale these default spreads upwards to incorporate the higher risk of equities&lt;/i&gt;, and these become the country risk premiums, which when added to the mature market premium, yields equity risk premiums by country. The process is described below:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEijV_fnnX0lYyEIFTFq5xQgF6JNZXdvow_dEMMoSOa8UbVzM8GWQuERh91Jmh0fHqt1YA_q3k4UdUpYJ-WR4wM-fUyg42amgX1_w46Y8etV4asSBj4ofIluJ7U4Egc9nFn4Q-mhf_JCaqIvEc2ukATkJZGE6Gt3P8kKaeBujN6sA29OBL9VScodI413WQ4/s1498/ERPComputationPicture.jpg&quot; imageanchor=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;1026&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1498&quot; height=&quot;219&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEijV_fnnX0lYyEIFTFq5xQgF6JNZXdvow_dEMMoSOa8UbVzM8GWQuERh91Jmh0fHqt1YA_q3k4UdUpYJ-WR4wM-fUyg42amgX1_w46Y8etV4asSBj4ofIluJ7U4Egc9nFn4Q-mhf_JCaqIvEc2ukATkJZGE6Gt3P8kKaeBujN6sA29OBL9VScodI413WQ4/s320/ERPComputationPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;320&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The results from following this process are captured in the picture below, where I create both a heat map based on the equity risk premiums, and report on the ratings, country risk premiums and equity risk premiums, by country:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; class=&quot;tr-caption-container&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;5714&quot; data-original-width=&quot;5070&quot; height=&quot;400&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhW_fReNFXr668LC0GaHvVyfVG5Q-h-vRDzWb0JFUjrDfIq7Ck3k1-GOYhELN4IN8Zto3zkU3smzyuEft1zPfKJ87KHGzlSm1icHIceJX97Q1TDLyC6ShPI8sc2uo1ySl8zCTXfAT54H0YMf7jn7C6f3hdhtJuMVvYHlrwGE3-6wsnhl82v68nsoevcolM/w355-h400/ERPheatMapPicture.jpg&quot; width=&quot;355&quot; /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;tr-caption&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJuly25.xlsx&quot;&gt;Download equity risk premium, by country&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;If you compare the equity risk premium heat map with the heat maps on the other dimensions of country risk (political and legal structures, exposure to violence and corruption), you will notice the congruence. The parts of the world that are most exposed to corruption and violence, and have capricious legal systems, tend to have higher equity risk premiums. The effects of the US ratings downgrade also manifest in the table, with the US now having a higher equity risk premium than its Aaa counterparts in Northern Europe, Australia and Canada.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;A User&#39;s Guide&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; My estimates of&amp;nbsp;equity risk premiums, by country, are available for download, and I am flattered that there are analysts that have found use for these number. One reason may be that they are free, but I do have concerns sometimes that they are misused, and the fault is mine for not clarifying how they should be used. In this section, I will lay out steps in using these equity risk premiums in corporate finance and valuation practice, and &amp;nbsp;if I have still left areas of &amp;nbsp;grey, please let me know.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 1: Start with an understanding of what the equity risk premium measures&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The starting point for most finance classes is with the recognition that investors are collectively risk averse, and will demand higher expected returns on investments with more risk. The equity risk premium is a measure of the “extra” return that investors need to make, over and above the riskfree rate, to compensate for the higher risk that they are exposed to, on equities collectively. In the context of country risk, it implies that investments in riskier countries will need to earn higher returns to beat benchmarks than in safer countries. Using the numbers from July 2025, this would imply that investors need to earn 7.46% more than the riskfree rate to invest in an average-risk investment in India, and 10.87% more than the riskfree rate to invest in an average risk investment in Turkey.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; It is also worth recognizing how equity risk premiums play out investing and valuation. Increasing the equity risk premium will raise the rate of return you need to make on an investment, and by doing so, reduce its value. That is why equity&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;risk premiums and stock prices move inversely, with the ERP rising as stock prices drop (all other thins being held constant) and falling as stock prices increase.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 2: Pick your currency of analysis (and estimate a riskfree rate)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I start my discussions of currency in valuation by positing that currency is a choice, and that not only can you assess any project or value any company in any currency, but also that your assessment of project worth or company value should not be affected by that choice.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Defining the equity risk premium as the extra return that investors need to make, over and above the risk free rate, may leave you puzzled about what riskfree rate to use, and while the easy answer is that it should be the riskfree rate in the currency you chose to do the analysis in, it is worth emphasizing that this riskfree rate is not always the government bond rate, and especially so, if the government does not have Aaa rating and faces default risk. In that case, you will need to adjust the government bond rate (just as I did with the US dollar) for the default spread, to prevent double counting risk. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUQ7wiTWyscbXRuKaRcqrHVMOO0bgMt0LqTXxZM0DnWFpYuVFWnoAj1a0D4_06uFOGzhvdT60s57qDCl2rEOMptxuilfRGmorI1hBZC06nvqtOVdsJvxlpybfJ1qr5zxAuvGQ55C1lFQR7kjnrQ-CQS98Xlvg3ctUhgkY4J65Bl5Dm1MDH35YLEQpbBUw/s3464/CurrencyRiskfree.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;2526&quot; data-original-width=&quot;3464&quot; height=&quot;292&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUQ7wiTWyscbXRuKaRcqrHVMOO0bgMt0LqTXxZM0DnWFpYuVFWnoAj1a0D4_06uFOGzhvdT60s57qDCl2rEOMptxuilfRGmorI1hBZC06nvqtOVdsJvxlpybfJ1qr5zxAuvGQ55C1lFQR7kjnrQ-CQS98Xlvg3ctUhgkY4J65Bl5Dm1MDH35YLEQpbBUw/w400-h292/CurrencyRiskfree.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Staying with the example of an Indian investment, the expected return on an average-risk investment in Indian rupees would be computed as follows:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Indian government bond rate on July 1, 2025 = 6.32%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Default spread for India, based on rating on July 1, 2025 = 2.16%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Indian rupee risk free rate on July 1, 2025 = 6.32% - 2.16% = 4.16%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;ERP for India on July 1, 2025 = 7.46%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Expected return on average Indian equity in rupees on July 1, 2025 = 4.16% + 7..46% = 11.62%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note also that if using the Indian government bond rate as the riskfree rate in rupees, you would effectively be double counting Indian country risk, once in the government bond rate and once again in the equity risk premium.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I know that the ERP is in dollar terms, and adding it to a rupee riskfree rate may seem inconsistent, but it will work well for riskfree rates that are reasonably close to the US dollar risk free rate. For currencies, like the Brazilian real or Turkish lira, it is more prudent to do your calculations entirely in US dollars, and convert using the differential inflation rate:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;US dollar riskfree rate on July 1, 2025 = 3.97%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;ERP for Turkey on July 1, 2025 = 10.87%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Expected return on average Turkish equity in US $ on July 1, 2025 = 3.97% + 10.87% = 14.84%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Expected inflation rate in US dollars = 2.5%; Expected inflation rate in Turkish lira = 20%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Expected return on average Turkish equity Turkish lira on July 1, 2025 = 1.1484 *(1.20/1.025) -1 = 34.45%&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Note that this process scales up the equity risk premium to a higher number for high-inflation currencies.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 3: Estimate the equity risk premium or premiums that come into play based on operations&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;Many analysts use the equity risk premiums for a country when valuing companies that are incorporated in that country, but I think that is too narrow a perspective. In my view, the &lt;i&gt;exposure to country risk comes from where a company operates, not where it is incorporated&lt;/i&gt;, opening the door for bringing in country risk from emerging markets into the cost of equity for multinationals that may be incorporated in mature markets. I use &lt;i&gt;revenue weights&lt;/i&gt;, based on geography, for most companies, but I am open to using &lt;i&gt;production weights&lt;/i&gt;, for natural resource companies, and even a &lt;i&gt;mix of the two&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;separator&quot; style=&quot;clear: both; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigaOgaequMIqkurpJylryUhdneztkaTaAQKj8F7IEbL3qvXAth_B3C9aSN03zBdbdQRTnmCHZn52U2YeHvqjLRCRDuUExDgby94RrJb1f3JDBc-BP3JWZ4XvUPtWKdFLgi4Xhkq0catFdAXHRauelT1FnwemHaljYOiU3wfNWSBKA9aH_2EjnCPYkjKog/s1494/CompanyRiskExposure.jpg&quot; style=&quot;margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=&quot;0&quot; data-original-height=&quot;958&quot; data-original-width=&quot;1494&quot; height=&quot;256&quot; src=&quot;https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigaOgaequMIqkurpJylryUhdneztkaTaAQKj8F7IEbL3qvXAth_B3C9aSN03zBdbdQRTnmCHZn52U2YeHvqjLRCRDuUExDgby94RrJb1f3JDBc-BP3JWZ4XvUPtWKdFLgi4Xhkq0catFdAXHRauelT1FnwemHaljYOiU3wfNWSBKA9aH_2EjnCPYkjKog/w400-h256/CompanyRiskExposure.jpg&quot; width=&quot;400&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;In corporate finance, where you need equity risk premiums to estimate costs of equity and capital in project assessment, the location of the project will determine which country’s equity risk premiums come into play. When Amazon decides to invest in a Brazilian online retail project, it is the equity risk premium for Brazil that should be incorporated, with the choice of currency for analysis determining the riskfree rate.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 4: Estimate project-specific or company-specific risk measures and costs&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The riskfree rate and equity-risk premiums are market-wide numbers,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;driven by macro forces. To complete this process, you need two company-specific numbers:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Not all companies or projects are average risk, for equity investors in them, and for companies that are riskier or safer than average, you need a &lt;b&gt;measure of this relative risk&lt;/b&gt;. At the risk of provoking those who may be triggered by portfolio theory or the CAPM, the &lt;b&gt;beta &lt;/b&gt;is one such measure, but as I have argued elsewhere, I am completely at home with alternative measures of relative equity risk. The cost of equity is calculated as follows:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Cost of equity = Riskfree rate + Beta&amp;nbsp;× Equity Risk Premium&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The beta (relative risk measure) measures the risk of the business that the company/project is in, and for a diversified investor, captures only risk that cannot be diversified away. While we are often taught to use regressions against market indices to get these betas, using &lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/&quot;&gt;industry-average or bottom-up betas &lt;/a&gt;yields much better estimates for projects and companies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul style=&quot;text-align: left;&quot;&gt;&lt;li style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;For the cost of debt, you need to estimate the &lt;b&gt;default spread that the company will face&lt;/b&gt;. If the company has a bond rating, you can use this rating to estimate the default spread, and if it is not, you can use the company&#39;s financials to assess a &lt;i&gt;synthetic rating&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Cost of debt =Riskfree Rate + Default spread&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style=&quot;border: medium; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;Harking back to the discussion of riskfree rates, a company in a country with sovereign default risk will often bear a double burden, carrying default spreads for both itself and the country.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;The currency choice made in step two will hold, with the riskfree rate in both the cost of equity and debt being the long-term default free rate in that currency (and not always the government bond rate).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Step 5: Ensure that your cash flows are currency consistent&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; The currency choice made in step 2 determines not only the discount rates that you will be using but also the expected cash flows, with expected inflation driving both inputs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Thus, if you analyze a Turkish project in lira, where the expected inflation rate is 20%, you should expect to see costs of equity and capital that exceed 25%, but you should also see growth rates in the cash flows to be inflated the same expected inflation. If you assess the same project in Euros, where the expected inflation is 2%, you should expect to see much lower discount rates, high county risk notwithstanding, but the expected growth in cash flows will also be muted, because of the low inflation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There is nothing in this process that is original or path-breaking, but it does yield a systematic and consistent process for estimating discount rates, the D in DCF. It works for me, because I am a pragmatist, with a valuation mission to complete, but you should feel free to adapt and modify it to meet your concerns.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;YouTube Video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allow=&quot;accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; height=&quot;315&quot; referrerpolicy=&quot;strict-origin-when-cross-origin&quot; src=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed/LTDZCLjCa-E?si=14YNITEUOjTicN7c&quot; title=&quot;YouTube video player&quot; width=&quot;560&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Paper&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5354459&quot;&gt;Country Risk Determinants: Determinants, Measures and Implications - The 2025 Edition&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Datasets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/ctrypremJuly25.xlsx&quot;&gt;Equity Risk Premiums, by country - July 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;Country Risk Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.eiu.com/n/campaigns/democracy-index-2024/&quot;&gt;EIU Democracy Index&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.economicsandpeace.org/global-peace-index/&quot;&gt;Global Peace Index (Exposure to Violence)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024&quot;&gt;Corruption Index&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024&quot;&gt;International Property Rights Index&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.moodys.com/Pages/rr005_0.aspx?bd=005005&amp;amp;ed=4294966623&amp;amp;rd=&amp;amp;tb=0&amp;amp;po=0&amp;amp;lang=en&amp;amp;cy=global&amp;amp;kw=&quot;&gt;Moody&#39;s Sovereign Ratings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.prsgroup.com/explore-our-products/icrg/&quot;&gt;Political Risk Services (PRS) Country Risk Scores&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Spreadsheets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJuly25.xlsx&quot;&gt;Implied Equity Risk Premium for S&amp;amp;P 500 on July 1, 2025&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1842717997601823104/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/8152901575140311047/1842717997601823104' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1842717997601823104'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1842717997601823104'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='https://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2025/07/country-risk-2025-story-behind-numbers.html' title='Country Risk 2025: The Story behind the Numbers!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='21' src='//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJqR5mStn39L-PRoNexsnhLIwDYvrRposQzB35hGozX1FDOTFyYEetbXZaiZlzDEB9NTQksi1p76VEKc3US-JLQCSysI-R7FEDJJomjMhw0i9uEipaX-oTVTAV6TsXOgg/s1600/*'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1aCDmb2O0nawZxIRKeei-zL45HqMjUxxqmWwheFhtkMVj1Fya08ur0olBnAQhBeCZ6Ez0F3POQ1BuK7No8p89i3CWq8-bevXhVMGTDwhlJ2U2zJQu41wNjJodtEwP241-rGYBhyMYDeB7wmvp7QbYvegvccmv3HRwqgZDW0oVzRYEW4qsmRu3i_bew2Q/s72-w400-h288-c/CountryRiskDrivers.jpeg" height="72" width="72"/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>