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		<title>Mixed Drinks and Decent Company</title>
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Pictures of and recipes for mixed drinks, pictures of them being made, and stories from the taverns, bars, saloons and other watering holes, especially those told from a bartender&#039;s perspective. More artistic shots from those watering holes - ones which don&#039;t look like myspace debauchery shots - are sometimes welcome, as well, but will be held to a higher standard than in most groups. Companion groups are available for those who&#039;d like to discuss &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/groups/liqueurs/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Liqueur making&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/groups/liqueur/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;the use of liqueurs in cooking and dining&lt;/a&gt;, pairing foods with said beverages. Fiction is welcome, but should be clearly marked as such. Anything posted here should be suitable for general audiences. For stories and images that get a little more raw, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/groups/bartender/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;a companion group&lt;/a&gt; is available, if one is over 18. Which one really ought to be if one is sharing stories about barhopping, don&#039;t you think?




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Personal disputes are to be taken &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/groups/smashed/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;outside&lt;/a&gt;, as a matter of group policy. In the highly unlikely case that I&#039;ll have to get involved in a dispute, or set some kind of policy for the group, my decisions might be explained on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/groups/late/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;my moderation journal&lt;/a&gt;. My Flickr profile is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, if you&#039;re wondering who &amp;quot;I&amp;quot; am.   You can follow both &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=boozehounds&amp;amp;loc=en_US&#039; target=&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the discussions&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=drunkards&amp;amp;loc=en_US&#039; target=&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photo pool&lt;/a&gt; for this group by e-mail, through Feedburner, or by following &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/_mixed_drinks_&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this twitter microblog&lt;/a&gt;, which carries update notices for this group and its companion on &lt;a href=&quot;http://mixeddrinks.deviantart.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DeviantArt&lt;/a&gt;.
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You can return to your ring via the copy of the group homepage on &lt;a href=&quot;http://webspace.webring.com/people/ul/liquor/Mixed_Drinks_and_Decent_Company/ring/designated_driver.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Webring Webspace&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://josephdunphy.freewebspace.com/Mixed_Drinks_and_Decent_Company/ring/designated_driver.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Freewebspace dot com&lt;/a&gt;, or maybe use the code you see on the page below.





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&lt;b&gt;Best Drinks and Drinking Sites&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=allansbestdrinki;sid=32;id=32;prev&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/t/Best-Drinks-and-Drinking-Sites?sid=32&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/hub/allansbestdrinki?sid=32&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://C.webring.com/wrman?ring=allansbestdrinki;sid=32;addsite&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Join&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=allansbestdrinki;sid=32;id=32;next&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Next&lt;/a&gt;     






&lt;b&gt;Cyber Barhopping&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=barhop;sid=110;id=110;prev&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/t/Cyber-Barhopping?sid=110&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/hub/barhop?sid=110&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://M.webring.com/wrman?ring=barhop;sid=110;addsite&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Join&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=barhop;sid=110;id=110;random&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Random&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=barhop;sid=110;id=110;next&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Next&lt;/a&gt;


    



&lt;b&gt;Message Board Central Webring&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=messageboardcent;sid=30;id=30;prev&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/t/Message-Board-Central-Webring?sid=30&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/hub/messageboardcent?sid=30&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://H.webring.com/wrman?ring=messageboardcent;sid=30;addsite&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Join&lt;/a&gt; |  &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=messageboardcent;sid=30;id=30;next&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Next&lt;/a&gt;     






&lt;b&gt;Our World - Alternative and Otherwise&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=ourworldalternat;sid=47;id=47;prev&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/t/Our-World-Alternative-and-Otherwise?sid=47&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/hub/ourworldalternat?sid=47&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://B.webring.com/wrman?ring=ourworldalternat;sid=47;addsite&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Join&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=ourworldalternat;sid=47;id=47;random&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Random&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=ourworldalternat;sid=47;id=47;next&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Next&lt;/a&gt;






&lt;b&gt;Pictures&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=pictures;sid=40;id=40;prev&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prev&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/t/Pictures?sid=40&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hub&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/hub/pictures?sid=40&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://P.webring.com/wrman?ring=pictures;sid=40;addsite&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Join&lt;/a&gt; |  &lt;a target=&quot;_top&quot; href=&quot;http://www.webring.com/go?ring=pictures;sid=40;id=40;next&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Next&lt;/a&gt;     
     




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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/28353066@N03/&quot;&gt;eleni vraka (e_vra)&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i &#039;m very happy you like the photograph !&lt;/p&gt;
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/&quot;&gt;Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy&lt;/a&gt; posted a new topic:&lt;/p&gt;

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The group now has an illustration, which e_vra has been kind enough to let us use. It was taken in Thessaloniki (aka Salonica) in the Macedonian region of Greece in November.&lt;br /&gt;
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			<title>Reply to Sigh ... a few hundred invitations out ...</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/versak_estudio/&quot;&gt;Versak Estudio&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hi Joseph,&lt;br /&gt;
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I had accepted you invitation to the group and I joined few minutes, ago. I will post one or two images today and then following my normal publishing procedure (monday/wensday/friday).&lt;br /&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 01:21:01 -0800</pubDate>
						<author flickr:profile="https://www.flickr.com/people/versak_estudio/">nobody@flickr.com (Versak Estudio)</author>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/&quot;&gt;Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;If you are looking to build your photo pool use the invite to group function under actions in the photo you want to invite. ... I think that is the best way to build a group.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As it turns out, this really isn&#039;t the best way to build a group, at least not at present. I tried it, and what happened was that the flow of photos into the group went down, and the rate at which new members joined dropped through the floor. This pattern repeated itself in a number of my other groups. Whether this is because people found the more streamlined introductions too impersonal, or because something is broken and the group invitations aren&#039;t being seen, I don&#039;t know, but what I do know is that this experiment didn&#039;t work out very well. I&#039;m just going to go back to posting the invites in the comments section. Still, thanks for the suggestion. It was an interesting idea, even if it didn&#039;t work out.&lt;br /&gt;
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 04:27:46 -0800</pubDate>
						<author flickr:profile="https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/">nobody@flickr.com (Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy)</author>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/&quot;&gt;Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That was a nice touch. Thanks. I look forward to your next set.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 02:53:40 -0800</pubDate>
						<author flickr:profile="https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/">nobody@flickr.com (Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy)</author>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/wikipix/&quot;&gt;Walter Ezell&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You invited me to post my photo of a melon ball cocktail. Usually I am invited to post a photo and don&#039;t have to join the group to do so. But you got my attention, I joined the group and posted 12 beverage photos that have some green. I thought the photos looked nice all lined up together in harmonizing colors on your first page.. Maybe I&#039;ll come back later and post an all-blue lineup!&lt;/p&gt;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:16:40 -0800</pubDate>
						<author flickr:profile="https://www.flickr.com/people/wikipix/">nobody@flickr.com (Walter Ezell)</author>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/&quot;&gt;Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

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What I&#039;m going to do is use the invite function just for people who are already in the group. Even somebody with just one cocktail photo might take others, later. Later on, having not joined, the prospective member might have difficulty remembering exactly where we were.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The only problem with that is that then people will add their photos but won&#039;t join the group.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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That would seem to be supported by what I saw today - the pool continuing to grow, while membership numbers plateaued. Making the process more convenient for the person I&#039;m inviting is something I&#039;m certainly in favor of doing, but I am a little concerned that an invite arriving without a welcome message is going seem a little impersonal, like a letter arriving without a salutation, maybe? But if I send an invite to the group, an invite for the photo, and a welcome message, perhaps that&#039;s a little too much.&lt;br /&gt;
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A photo, no matter how good it is, remains an inanimate object.  To invite the photo, but not the member, perhaps sends a very bad message to some - that I&#039;m more interested in the object created than I am in the person who created it. That&#039;s not a message I&#039;d ever want to send. Had I not been up all night, and overeager to get the task at hand complete, with a clearer head, I would have thought about that, before acting.&lt;br /&gt;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:15:58 -0800</pubDate>
						<author flickr:profile="https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/">nobody@flickr.com (Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy)</author>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/labrancaro/&quot;&gt;enchanted fork&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just added mine per your request :-)  I agree, definitely start using the invite option.  The only problem with that is that then people will add their photos but won&#039;t join the group.  Maybe use the invite if they have only one cocktail photo, but if they have many, ask them to join the group?&lt;/p&gt;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:21:01 -0800</pubDate>
						<author flickr:profile="https://www.flickr.com/people/labrancaro/">nobody@flickr.com (enchanted fork)</author>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/&quot;&gt;Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll try that. Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:23:26 -0800</pubDate>
						<author flickr:profile="https://www.flickr.com/people/liminal/">nobody@flickr.com (Myopic Midnight Special / Joseph Dunphy)</author>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.flickr.com/people/ghholt/&quot;&gt;G. H. Holt Photography&lt;/a&gt; posted a reply:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you are looking to build your photo pool use the invite to group function under actions in the photo you want to invite. Than the person only has to click to submit image. Some people will just click to add the image other will find the group to their interest and join the group. I think that is the best way to build a group.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:09:37 -0800</pubDate>
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