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	<title>Out of Ur</title>
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	<tagline>Conversations for Ministry Leaders</tagline>
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			<title>Video Venues and Multi-Sites: Can We Please Move On?</title>
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			<modified>2009-11-05T19:33:27Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-11-05T06:00:00Z</issued>
			<id>tag:www.outofur.com,2009://1.538982076</id>
			<created>2009-11-05T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>We've got more important matters to discuss.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by David Swanson</name>
				
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			<dc:subject>Obedience</dc:subject>
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				&lt;p&gt;May I vent for a moment? If I stumble onto another blog, article, or conference advertisement for anything having to do with video venues or multi-site models of church growth, I just might lose it. Everywhere I look within our odd little subculture these days I’m barraged by debates and diatribes about the glorious merits or awful shortcomings of venues and sites. On one side are proponents who seem to believe that only really good sliced bread can compete with their innovative ministry models for the title of “greatest thing ever.” Opposing these trendsetters are Marshall McLuhan’s  disciples, those who fear the Good News message has been distorted by an unholy medium.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;To be clear, I understand the nuanced distinctions between multiple sites and multiple video screens. I get that there are theological concerns embedded within this conversation that bring out the passionate sides of characteristically composed people. To be honest, I’ve followed this debate with some interest and could earnestly argue my own position about these ministry models. But I don’t want to. In fact, at this point I’d rather talk about almost anything else. Here’s why:&lt;br /&gt;
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			<title>Not a Christian, But a Christ-Follower?</title>
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			<modified>2009-11-04T14:26:14Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-11-04T06:00:00Z</issued>
			<id>tag:www.outofur.com,2009://1.538982066</id>
			<created>2009-11-04T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>The downside of trying to re-brand your Christian identity.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Jason Byassee</name>
				
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			<dc:subject>Obedience</dc:subject>
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				&lt;p&gt;Anyone can understand the desire for an alternative to the word “Christian.” There are plenty of “Christians” I’d rather not be associated with. I’d much prefer to maintain my relationship with Jesus while making clear to others I am not in relationship to Pat Robertson or Jack Spong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lisa Miller, true to form as an excellent religion journalist, has brought attention to efforts &lt;a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/188198"&gt;to follow Jesus without calling oneself a “Christian.” &lt;/a&gt;Non-Christian Christ-followers even seem to have some scripture on their side. The first name of the Jesus movement in the book of Acts is “followers of the Way.” There are plenty of other fully-biblical alternatives: disciples, apostles, friends of God. Apparently the movement has legs: more than 900 Facebook groups call themselves some variant of “follower of Jesus.”&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;There’s some sleight of hand here. Imagine a banker in the current financial crisis objecting when you name her job description. “I’m not a banker, I’m a cashier.” You would be unimpressed. Or a Major League Baseball player seeking distance from the steroid scandal this way: “No no no, I’m not a baseball player, I’m a second baseman.” It’s as if my alma mater, Davidson College, disgraced itself in some horrible way. When people cluck their tongues at me, I cleverly respond: “Not me, I’m innocent, I’m not from Davidson, I’m just a Wildcat.” I’d be fooling no one. So too with these non-Christian Christians.&lt;/p&gt;
									
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			<title>Ur Video: The Prosperity Gospel</title>
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			<modified>2009-11-03T15:45:54Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-11-03T06:00:00Z</issued>
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			<created>2009-11-03T06:00:00Z</created>
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				&lt;p&gt;Christianity Today International, Out of Ur's publisher, and The Lausanne Movement, a worldwide movement of evangelical Christian leaders, present &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/globalconversation"&gt;The Global Conversation&lt;/a&gt;: a year-long series of essays, short films, and photo essays about issues facing the church worldwide. These videos highlight topics to be addressed at the Third Lausanne Congress on World Evangelization being held in Cape Town, South Africa, in October 2010.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In November the Global Conversation focuses on the prosperity gospel—the teaching that true Christian faith results in material wealth and physical well-being. While it has its roots in America, it has found fertile soil on other continents as well. To accompany the lead article in Christianity Today by Ghanaian scholar Kwabena Asamoah-Gyadu, director Nathan Clarke went to Ghana to explore the forms the prosperity gospel takes in that West African nation.&lt;/p&gt;

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			<title>Catalyst, Liturgy, and Innovation</title>
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			<modified>2009-11-02T19:01:58Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-11-02T15:00:00Z</issued>
			<id>tag:www.outofur.com,2009://1.538982038</id>
			<created>2009-11-02T15:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>What liturgical church leaders and the Catalyst Conference can learn from each other.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Andy Rowell</name>
				
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				&lt;p&gt;According to data from the &lt;a href="http://www.soc.duke.edu/natcong/index.html"&gt;National Congregations Study (2006-2007), &lt;/a&gt;38% of people in the United States associate themselves with liturgical churches (Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Episcopal, etc.); while 46% associate themselves with free churches (Baptist, Pentecostal, non-denominational, etc.).  The 14% of people associated with Methodist and Reformed/Presbyterian churches sit atop this watershed—some sliding down the liturgical slope, others down the free church slope.  Liturgical churches emphasize historical and global continuity in their worship services; whereas the term “free church” is related to the relative autonomy of individual congregations.  Almost every heated discussion about the church tends to divide along these liturgical / free church lines.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Liturgical clergy see their role as being a faithful steward of historic Christianity.  This consists especially of serving the Lord’s Supper and preaching.  Free church pastors tend to see their role as equipping their congregations for evangelism and social justice.  Because of their different understandings of their roles, it is not surprising that free church pastors are open to insights gleaned from megachurches, church planters, and business leaders; while liturgical church clergy see these sources as consumeristic, arrogant, and hopelessly misguided.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nowhere is free church innovation more plainly seen than at &lt;a href="http://www.catalystconference.com/"&gt;The Catalyst Conference&lt;/a&gt; attended by 13,000 people October 8-9 outside Atlanta, Georgia.  The Catalyst Conference is “&lt;a href="http://www.catalystspace.com/about/history"&gt;specifically focused on leaders under the age of 40&lt;/a&gt;.”  Its podcast tagline is “what’s next in the church.”  &lt;br /&gt;
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			<title>Are Small Groups Just for White People?</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-30T14:47:51Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-30T06:00:00Z</issued>
			<id>tag:www.outofur.com,2009://1.538982030</id>
			<created>2009-10-30T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>Why don't more ethnic churches have a small groups ministry?</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Sam O'Neal</name>
				
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			<dc:subject>Formation</dc:subject>
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				&lt;p&gt;I came across an interesting interview in the recent issue of &lt;em&gt;Leadership Journal&lt;/em&gt;. The subjects of the interview were from River City Community Church—a multi-ethnic ministry located in the Humboldt Park neighborhood of Chicago. Leadership talked with Daniel Hill, who founded the ministry, along with several key leaders of the church.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;Here's a brief excerpt of their conversation:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;   &lt;strong&gt; What kind of person is attracted to River City?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    Hill: Most of our new people are white. But there's a revolving door with the white community here. They have a romantic notion of being part of a multi-ethnic church, so many of them get frustrated and leave when they realize how difficult it is to erase their assumptions about the way church is supposed to be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;    What assumptions do white people carry into the church?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    Arloa Sutter (pastor of community life): When I came I said, "Let's just start small groups! Everyone wants to be in a group, right?" The fact is small groups aren't as important to other ethnicities as they are to white people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;   &lt;strong&gt; Small groups are a white church thing?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
    Hill: White people rely on small groups to connect. Other ethnicities form community more organically, more relationally. Immigrant communities find fellowship within extended families. In the city a lot of community happens on the front porch or sidewalk. So non-whites aren't as eager to set up structures and systems like small groups.&lt;/p&gt;
									
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			<title>Virtual Church is STILL a Bad Idea</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-27T20:13:14Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-27T06:00:00Z</issued>
			<id>tag:www.outofur.com,2009://1.538982003</id>
			<created>2009-10-27T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>Online churches are missing a few essential ingredients.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Bob Hyatt</name>
				
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				&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;**Editor's Note: I apologize for the lack of posts in recent days. We've been experiencing some technical difficulties. -Url Scaramanga**&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was disappointed to read Douglas Estes’ piece last week on Ur, for a number of reasons, but chief among them is this: it fails to deal substantively with a single serious critique that has been raised regarding virtual church. In fact, Mr. Estes not only fails to address the critique, but he seems to fail even to understand it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So in a spirit of Christian love and good dialogue, let me respond point by point!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First, Mr. Estes asserts that critique of virtual church can be boiled down to “Internet campuses and online churches are not true churches because they don’t look like and feel like churches are expected to look like and feel like (in the West, anyway).”&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Respectfully, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, my concern about internet church is that it’s &lt;em&gt;too much&lt;/em&gt; like what we expect (and want) church to look and feel like (at least in the West). &lt;/p&gt;
									
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			<title>In Defense of Virtual Church</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-26T20:29:45Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-22T06:00:00Z</issued>
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			<created>2009-10-22T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>Douglas Estes, author of <em><a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=287841&item_code=WW&netp_id=584313&p=1025716">SimChurch</a></em>, responds to critics of online churches.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Douglas Estes</name>
				
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			<dc:subject>Worship</dc:subject>
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				&lt;p&gt;A myth is growing in some circles of the blogosphere that online church is not good, not healthy, and not biblical. If we read carefully the criticisms levied against internet campuses, they boil down to some very common and tired themes: &lt;em&gt;Internet campuses and online churches are not true churches because they don’t look like and feel like churches are expected to look like and feel like&lt;/em&gt; (in the West, anyway). Arguments against virtual church follow the idea that if it doesn’t look like church, feel like church, swim like church, or quack like church, it’s not a church. This may be a useful test for ducks, but churches are far more complex animals.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;This myth is causing even open-minded people to have doubts about whether a church online can be ‘real.’ Let’s lay aside for a moment that nowhere in the Bible does it preclude online church, in any way. Let’s lay aside the fact that church history almost nowhere would lead someone to conclude that a virtual church is not valid (the lesson of church history is that new formats for church always go through a period where they are attacked as invalid). Let’s lay aside the troubling truth of the testimonies of meaningful community that are coming out of online churches. Let’s lay aside the problem that most (all I’ve read) of the blogposts criticizing virtual churches are based on cultural factors, pop psychology, materialistic misreadings of a few New Testament verses, or worse, citations of famous pastors who have doubts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;An even greater concern is the proliferation of a related myth: The myth of the “virtual” church. As a result several of the churches who have launched virtual campuses are telling their pastors and people, “Don’t use the word ‘virtual,’ because people think it means fake.” For the record, virtual doesn’t mean fake, it means synthetic. In the long run, it doesn’t matter whether church culture embraces or discards the word virtual, but we need to be accurate in our representation. Virtual churches are not fake churches; they are real churches that use synthetic space as a meeting place (or a synthetic medium as a means of building community). The ‘virtual’ part of the term—which identifies where they meet—has nothing to do with the question of their realness or validity.&lt;/p&gt;
									
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			<title>Margaret Feinberg: The Surprising Truth About Shepherds</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-21T15:47:47Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-21T06:00:00Z</issued>
			<id>tag:www.outofur.com,2009://1.538981961</id>
			<created>2009-10-21T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>An excerpt from her latest book, <em><a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=291220&item_code=WW&netp_id=613489&p=1025716">Scouting the Divine</a></em>.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Margaret Feinberg</name>
				
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				&lt;p&gt;As we finished our tea and truffles, I took Lynne to the book of 1 Samuel. I explained that the first mention of someone in Scripture often reveals something significant about the person’s character. The first king of Israel, Saul, is introduced as a young man trying, unsuccessfully, to find his father’s donkeys. This humorous scene hints at Saul’s later inability to lead others well. Though his early years of ruling God’s people are marked by humility and self-control, over time Saul becomes disobedient, jealous, and full of hatred. He’s known as the foolish king who lost his crown.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;The introduction of Saul stands in sharp contrast to the first mention of David, the second king of Israel. The prophet Samuel is told by God that one of the sons of Jesse will be the next king. Noting that the Lord hasn’t chosen any of the first seven sons of Jesse, Samuel asks the father if he has any other sons. Jesse responds, “There remains yet the youngest, and behold, he is tending the sheep” (1 Samuel 16:11). When we meet David, he’s watching over his family’s livelihood.&lt;br /&gt;
The Hebrew word for youngest, qatan, implies insignificant and unimportant. One translator even uses the word “runt.” Though David is the runt of the litter, God selects him to rule over Israel.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“Does it surprise you that the youngest child was caring for the sheep?”&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“Not at all,” Lynne said. “In ancient societies, and even today in remote areas, the weakest members of a family are often the ones assigned to care for the sheep. When we were in Peru staying with a family, a five-year-old boy, a few women, and an old man took care of the family’s sheep. The shepherds were those who lacked the strength or skill to do more physically demanding labor.”&lt;br /&gt;
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			<title>Scot McKnight's Top 10 Leadership Books</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-20T14:55:55Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-20T06:00:00Z</issued>
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			<created>2009-10-20T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>The best books for leaders you won't find at your next ministry conference.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Scot McKnight</name>
				
				<email>ljeditor@leadershipjournal.net</email>
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			<dc:subject>Leadership</dc:subject>
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				&lt;p&gt;What makes a leader? Ideas. Courage. Contact with great thinkers. What makes a Christian leader? Great ideas, courage, and contact with great thinkers shaped by the gospel. So, I offer to you a list of my top ten books for leaders, and none of the titles of these books have the word “leader” or “leadership” in it. Some of these are overtly Christian classics; others are not. These books have the ability to swell the chest, flood the mind, and reshape how we see the world around us – and a gospel-reshaping of these great works can inspire a leader to new levels.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From the classical world, though one could choose all sorts of great works, I recommend a soaking in Aristotle, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=64618&amp;item_code=WW&amp;netp_id=437131&amp;p=1025716"&gt;Nicomachean Ethics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, to see how the great philosopher constructed a set of ethics that shaped the Western world. Homer told the story of Odysseus and Virgil in &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=105138&amp;item_code=WW&amp;netp_id=508625&amp;p=1025716"&gt;The Aeneid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. Homer’s story came into the Roman world and gave to all of us the power of a journey into ideas and ideals, sanctifying place and history. Dante took Homer and Virgil to the next level in his &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=701267&amp;item_code=WW&amp;netp_id=218707&amp;p=1025716"&gt;Divine Comedy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, and if you follow him all the way down into the inferno, up through purgatory and then climb into the swirling glorious presence of God you will find new dimensions to life’s journey.&lt;br /&gt;
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			<title>Ur Video: STORY Conference</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-19T14:26:07Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-19T06:00:00Z</issued>
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			<created>2009-10-19T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>Carlos Whittaker gets excited about the STORY Conference in Chicago.</p>]]></summary>
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			<title>Quiz: Determine Your Ministry Age</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-15T14:44:03Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-15T06:00:00Z</issued>
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			<created>2009-10-15T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>Do your assumptions about leadership reflect the values of your generation?</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Jimmy Long</name>
				
				<email>ljeditor@leadershipjournal.net</email>
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			<dc:subject>Leadership</dc:subject>
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				&lt;p&gt;In recent years we have entered into lengthy discussions about how worship, spiritual formation, and evangelism are transitioning in the church. However, the most crucial area of transition, leadership, has received minimal attention. For more than 35 years, I have been overseeing the ministry of young InterVarsity staff and college student leaders. In that time I have seen a significant swing in how these young leaders view leadership. The emerging generation of leaders desires a context that fosters community, trust, journey, vision, and empowerment.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;If we are going to transition the church to the next generation, both existing and emerging leaders will need to understand and appreciate each other's values. This quiz, developed in conjunction with the editors of &lt;em&gt;Leadership&lt;/em&gt;, is a helpful start.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This tool is intended to foster dialogue between older and younger leaders about their divergent views and contribute to greater understanding between the generations. No test can fully reveal the nuances that exist within an entire generation, and you may agree with more than one answer for a question. Mark the answer that best fits your approach to leadership.&lt;br /&gt;
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			<title>The Hansen Report: Calling Out Counterfeit Gods</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-14T14:30:35Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-14T06:00:00Z</issued>
			<id>tag:www.outofur.com,2009://1.538981923</id>
			<created>2009-10-14T06:00:00Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>Tim Keller banks on the recession to make Americans think about their idols.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Collin Hansen</name>
				
				<email>ljeditor@leadershipjournal.net</email>
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			<dc:subject>Culture</dc:subject>
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&lt;p&gt;There is nothing like a recession to put Americans in a reflective mood. Unemployment and a devalued stock market have led many to consider whether money is the pre-eminent form of American idolatry. &lt;em&gt;New York Times&lt;/em&gt; columnist David Brooks has &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/opinion/29brooks.html"&gt;called for a new culture war&lt;/a&gt;, a “crusade for economic self-restraint” in a self-indulgent age. &lt;a href="http://nymag.com/guides/money/2009/59448/"&gt;Adam Sternbergh wonders whether thrift&lt;/a&gt; is a virtue that can be developed or a trait that must be inherited. ABC’s Nightline invited &lt;a href="http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8759993"&gt;Mark Driscoll&lt;/a&gt; to discuss the allure of celebrity and corporate idolatry. And Tim Keller has turned his attention to rooting out idolatry with his latest book, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=951360&amp;item_code=WW&amp;netp_id=613003&amp;p=1025716"&gt;Counterfeit Gods: The Empty Promises of Money, Sex, and Power, and the Only Hope that Matters&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For Keller an idol is “anything more important to you than God, anything which absorbs your heart and imagination more than God, anything you seek to give you what only God can give.” Elaborating on the book’s title, Keller writes that a “counterfeit god is anything so central and essential to your life, that, should you lose it, your life would feel hardly worth living.” What does Keller have in mind? Well, everything: family, children, career, earning money, achievement, social status, relationships, beauty, brains, morality, political or social activism—even effective Christian ministry.&lt;/p&gt;
									
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			<title>Create-A-Caption Contest</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-13T16:41:49Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-13T06:00:00Z</issued>
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			<created>2009-10-13T06:00:00Z</created>
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				&lt;p&gt;Do you ever feel like church activities, which are intended to promote God's mission, are actually keeping you from promoting God's mission? We're eager to see your captions for this cartoon by Roger Judd. Winners will be published in the Winter issue of Leadership. (Please include your name, church's name, city, and state.)&lt;/p&gt;

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			<title>Ur Video: Catalyst High-Dive Stunt</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-09T20:07:53Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-09T20:04:10Z</issued>
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			<created>2009-10-09T20:04:10Z</created>
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&lt;p&gt;Professor Splash dives 35 feet into a kiddie pool with 1 foot of water.&lt;/p&gt;

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			<title>Ed Stetzer Releases New Research on Pastors</title>
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			<modified>2009-10-09T20:26:31Z</modified>
			<issued>2009-10-09T19:50:37Z</issued>
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			<created>2009-10-09T19:50:37Z</created>
			<summary type="text/plain"><![CDATA[<p>The president of Lifeway Research spotlights how America's pastors feel about their calling--and more.</p>]]></summary>
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				<name>by Kevin Miller</name>
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			<dc:subject>Leadership</dc:subject>
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				&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.lifeway.com/blog/edstetzer/"&gt;Ed Stetzer&lt;/a&gt;, president of Lifeway Research and adviser to &lt;a href="http://www.BuildingChurchLeaders.com"&gt;www.BuildingChurchLeaders.com&lt;/a&gt;, released new research on pastors, which will be published soon in our sister publication, &lt;a href="http://www.LeadershipJournal.net"&gt;Leadership&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pastors still believe in the church&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Almost all pastors--88 percent--strongly agree that "If I had a friend who wanted to make a difference, I would encourage him or her to do so through their church."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pastors are investing in developing leaders--but the church may not be doing a good job at this&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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