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		<title>Comment on Which domain name are you using? by vlorbik</title>
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		<title>Comment on What’s wrong with curricular uniformity by jd2718</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like the model and the institution are inextricably bound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like the model and the institution are inextricably bound.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Skipping class by elementaryteacher</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a student come in with the best excuse for not having his homework done, and it WAS true.  His house caught on fire the night before (started by a chimney fire).  Luckily he and his family escaped unhurt.  He was worried I wouldn't believe him (one of the most responsible students in the class).

Eileen
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a student come in with the best excuse for not having his homework done, and it WAS true.  His house caught on fire the night before (started by a chimney fire).  Luckily he and his family escaped unhurt.  He was worried I wouldn&#8217;t believe him (one of the most responsible students in the class).</p>
<p>Eileen<br />
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)<br />
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		<title>Comment on Skeletal form of my new Teaching Statement by elementaryteacher</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, somehow I saw your other post (where I left my long comments) and didn't see this one.  

This is MUCH improved, but still needs some cutting.

Cut out everything before "My calling in life is to be a teacher....."  Why?  Because this is a statement of YOUR philosophy, NOT White Spirit, NOT C.S. Lewis.

In number 4, reword MUCH shorter--ALL points into ONE clear sentence.

In 5, keep point b (expanding it slightly) and cutting out all other parts of 5.  Get it into ONE clear sentence.

Eliminate 6, while true, it is redundant.

You've made excellent progress here.  Tighten it up more.  If I were a student, this statement would make me WANT to come to your class (unlike the long, more wordy, previous version).

Eileen
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, somehow I saw your other post (where I left my long comments) and didn&#8217;t see this one.  </p>
<p>This is MUCH improved, but still needs some cutting.</p>
<p>Cut out everything before &#8220;My calling in life is to be a teacher&#8230;..&#8221;  Why?  Because this is a statement of YOUR philosophy, NOT White Spirit, NOT C.S. Lewis.</p>
<p>In number 4, reword MUCH shorter&#8211;ALL points into ONE clear sentence.</p>
<p>In 5, keep point b (expanding it slightly) and cutting out all other parts of 5.  Get it into ONE clear sentence.</p>
<p>Eliminate 6, while true, it is redundant.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve made excellent progress here.  Tighten it up more.  If I were a student, this statement would make me WANT to come to your class (unlike the long, more wordy, previous version).</p>
<p>Eileen<br />
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)<br />
elementaryteacher.wordpress.com</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updated Teaching Statement by elementaryteacher</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, my example statement above should have read:

"In addition to teaching the Grade 3 subject matter, my classroom philosophy is to make learning FUN, as well as  to teach children that we all must RESPECT each other. I’m there equally to help children solve their interpersonal problems, and lead BETTER LIVES."

My point is that ANYTHING ELSE I want to talk about (the syllabus, my classroom discipline policy, class discussions, whatever, WILL FIT with the above topic sentence in various SHORT paragraphs below that, yet I have not OVERWHELMED my reader.

Eileen
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, my example statement above should have read:</p>
<p>&#8220;In addition to teaching the Grade 3 subject matter, my classroom philosophy is to make learning FUN, as well as  to teach children that we all must RESPECT each other. I’m there equally to help children solve their interpersonal problems, and lead BETTER LIVES.&#8221;</p>
<p>My point is that ANYTHING ELSE I want to talk about (the syllabus, my classroom discipline policy, class discussions, whatever, WILL FIT with the above topic sentence in various SHORT paragraphs below that, yet I have not OVERWHELMED my reader.</p>
<p>Eileen<br />
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)<br />
elementaryteacher.wordpress.com</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updated Teaching Statement by elementaryteacher</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

Before you go any further, I have two overall impressions.  It's still FAR too wordy (not knowing your audience for this statement) AND I think you have not clearly defined your audience for this paper.  I'm sorry to sound so critical, but you are losing your reader's attention (overwhelming your typical reader).  You need to FOCUS  it.  Let me help:

WHO is your audience?

For each of the following audiences, the statement should be written differently.  Think of it as a resume.  It you were applying for a math job in a corporation, you would write one resume.  If you were applying for a math job in a university, you would write a differently-slanted resume.

Is your audience other MATH PROFESSORS, or COLLEGE ADMINISTRATORS?  

Then maybe it's about right.  Is your audience STUDENTS?  Is your audience PARENTS?  I'm guessing this is the case (students and parents). 

IF it is indeed for EVERYBODY, I suggest two DIFFERENT papers--a short, to-the-point statement (no more than three main paragraphs covering the three most important points), that follow from a main thesis statement of one sentence or two.

For administrators/other math professors, prepare a statement as above.

I was put in the same position two weeks ago when I had to introduce myself by email to a new assistant I will have this year, but whom I have never met.  I was about to send him a very wordy description of all of my goals and objectives, when I realized what I needed was a ONE SENTENCE SUMMARY of my entire teaching philosophy.  (I think you need make a one-sentence statement for yourself (two sentences at most), to clarify all your goals into one overall sentence.  Yes, you CAN do it!  Here's my example: " My classroom philosophy is to make learning FUN, and to teach children that we all must respect each other.  In addition,  I'm there equally to help children with living BETTER LIVES.")

Now think of the Journalistic style in which a newspaper article is written (different than normal expository writing, but calculated to not lose the reader's attention).  ALL of the essential facts are in the short first sentence or two.  Each subsequent paragraph expands on those ideas.

Well, keep these thoughts in the back of your mind, and good luck.  After all the point of WRITING a statement like this is to entice your readers to actually READ it, to be PULLED INTO it, and not to have them say, "OK, it's a bit long, where's the main point; OK, I'll put it down and read it later when I have time," and then that time never arrives.

I'm sorry--I hope I've helped you, and not discouraged you.  

There's nothing wrong with your content, but in my opinion, long paragraphs of expository writing are not appropriate for this sort of document, in which readers are going to be trying to skim for "the main points."  If you can entice them with your main points, they will go on to read your more detailed explanations.

Best regards,
Eileen 
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)
elementaryteacher.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>Before you go any further, I have two overall impressions.  It&#8217;s still FAR too wordy (not knowing your audience for this statement) AND I think you have not clearly defined your audience for this paper.  I&#8217;m sorry to sound so critical, but you are losing your reader&#8217;s attention (overwhelming your typical reader).  You need to FOCUS  it.  Let me help:</p>
<p>WHO is your audience?</p>
<p>For each of the following audiences, the statement should be written differently.  Think of it as a resume.  It you were applying for a math job in a corporation, you would write one resume.  If you were applying for a math job in a university, you would write a differently-slanted resume.</p>
<p>Is your audience other MATH PROFESSORS, or COLLEGE ADMINISTRATORS?  </p>
<p>Then maybe it&#8217;s about right.  Is your audience STUDENTS?  Is your audience PARENTS?  I&#8217;m guessing this is the case (students and parents). </p>
<p>IF it is indeed for EVERYBODY, I suggest two DIFFERENT papers&#8211;a short, to-the-point statement (no more than three main paragraphs covering the three most important points), that follow from a main thesis statement of one sentence or two.</p>
<p>For administrators/other math professors, prepare a statement as above.</p>
<p>I was put in the same position two weeks ago when I had to introduce myself by email to a new assistant I will have this year, but whom I have never met.  I was about to send him a very wordy description of all of my goals and objectives, when I realized what I needed was a ONE SENTENCE SUMMARY of my entire teaching philosophy.  (I think you need make a one-sentence statement for yourself (two sentences at most), to clarify all your goals into one overall sentence.  Yes, you CAN do it!  Here&#8217;s my example: &#8221; My classroom philosophy is to make learning FUN, and to teach children that we all must respect each other.  In addition,  I&#8217;m there equally to help children with living BETTER LIVES.&#8221 <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now think of the Journalistic style in which a newspaper article is written (different than normal expository writing, but calculated to not lose the reader&#8217;s attention).  ALL of the essential facts are in the short first sentence or two.  Each subsequent paragraph expands on those ideas.</p>
<p>Well, keep these thoughts in the back of your mind, and good luck.  After all the point of WRITING a statement like this is to entice your readers to actually READ it, to be PULLED INTO it, and not to have them say, &#8220;OK, it&#8217;s a bit long, where&#8217;s the main point; OK, I&#8217;ll put it down and read it later when I have time,&#8221; and then that time never arrives.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8211;I hope I&#8217;ve helped you, and not discouraged you.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with your content, but in my opinion, long paragraphs of expository writing are not appropriate for this sort of document, in which readers are going to be trying to skim for &#8220;the main points.&#8221;  If you can entice them with your main points, they will go on to read your more detailed explanations.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Eileen<br />
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)<br />
elementaryteacher.wordpress.com</p>
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		<title>Comment on Which domain name are you using? by elementaryteacher</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get your blog through your RSS feed (at the Wordpress site), and I probably found it originally  through the Wordpress Tag Surfer, which I use daily.

My personal advice would be to put on a last post at the $8 site saying that ALL future posts will be on the Wordpress site,  so anyone who goes there can make the switch.

Eileen
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get your blog through your RSS feed (at the WordPress site), and I probably found it originally  through the WordPress Tag Surfer, which I use daily.</p>
<p>My personal advice would be to put on a last post at the $8 site saying that ALL future posts will be on the WordPress site,  so anyone who goes there can make the switch.</p>
<p>Eileen<br />
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas<br />
elementaryteacher.wordpress.com</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting fired for helping students? by elementaryteacher</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HAVE run in to this problem (about six years ago).  As an elementary teacher with a good science background, I was told that we were NOT to supplement classes with ANYTHING not in the text book (even though the text book was considerably out of date in terms of modern developments in biology and astronomy).  This policy applied to every subject I taught!  It was in place for three years.  Now this policy has gradually fallen by the wayside (happily).  But when it was in place, we did not have access to a decent library (being overseas in a non-English-speaking country, but in an English-speaking American school), and the internet was our only source of additional information.  We were not even allowed to mention current events in class!

Looking back several years later, I think the main reason for this policy was because there was a very lazy teacher/administrator who both had some religious objections to modern scientific developments, AND who did not want to supplement his own lessons with outside material.  The teachers who did, I believe now, were making him "look bad."  As soon as that teacher/administrator left the school, this policy began to be ignored, slowly at first, and then completely.

In the example above, I feel there is some piece of information that is unknown to us as outsiders, which has to do with the feelings, experience, or personality of the administrator (Mark M.)  He might be a lot more concerned with something like being a popular ADMINISTRATOR (doing everything to soothe "complaints," as opposed to placing student understanding FIRST).  Unfortunately, we can't get inside his mind from this information.

Eileen
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)
elementaryteacher.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HAVE run in to this problem (about six years ago).  As an elementary teacher with a good science background, I was told that we were NOT to supplement classes with ANYTHING not in the text book (even though the text book was considerably out of date in terms of modern developments in biology and astronomy).  This policy applied to every subject I taught!  It was in place for three years.  Now this policy has gradually fallen by the wayside (happily).  But when it was in place, we did not have access to a decent library (being overseas in a non-English-speaking country, but in an English-speaking American school), and the internet was our only source of additional information.  We were not even allowed to mention current events in class!</p>
<p>Looking back several years later, I think the main reason for this policy was because there was a very lazy teacher/administrator who both had some religious objections to modern scientific developments, AND who did not want to supplement his own lessons with outside material.  The teachers who did, I believe now, were making him &#8220;look bad.&#8221;  As soon as that teacher/administrator left the school, this policy began to be ignored, slowly at first, and then completely.</p>
<p>In the example above, I feel there is some piece of information that is unknown to us as outsiders, which has to do with the feelings, experience, or personality of the administrator (Mark M.)  He might be a lot more concerned with something like being a popular ADMINISTRATOR (doing everything to soothe &#8220;complaints,&#8221; as opposed to placing student understanding FIRST).  Unfortunately, we can&#8217;t get inside his mind from this information.</p>
<p>Eileen<br />
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)<br />
elementaryteacher.wordpress.com</p>
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		<title>Comment on Getting fired for helping students? by hall monitor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See what else teachers are getting fired for every day at http://detentionslip.org!  Voted #1 for crazy education news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See what else teachers are getting fired for every day at <a href="http://detentionslip.org" rel="nofollow">http://detentionslip.org</a>!  Voted #1 for crazy education news.</p>
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		<description>More than once in my experience as an undergrad I've seen my peers complain directly to the highest channels to force professors to suspend their commitment to teach thoroughly. They want answers to their questions, but they seem to prefer a direct and explicit verbal explanation to anything that requires a physical or intellectual flex on their part.

Ultimately, when asked what I want to do with a math degree, I always say I want to 'be an academic,' but this is just one of what's becoming a multitude of reasons I'm afraid I either won't make the cut or will get locked out when I do.

I won't go into why in such short space, but I blame the mindset of industrialized America for a lot of this kind of disastrous thinking.

Thanks for getting the word out on this, Robert-- I hope someone in a position to affect change sees it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than once in my experience as an undergrad I&#8217;ve seen my peers complain directly to the highest channels to force professors to suspend their commitment to teach thoroughly. They want answers to their questions, but they seem to prefer a direct and explicit verbal explanation to anything that requires a physical or intellectual flex on their part.</p>
<p>Ultimately, when asked what I want to do with a math degree, I always say I want to &#8216;be an academic,&#8217; but this is just one of what&#8217;s becoming a multitude of reasons I&#8217;m afraid I either won&#8217;t make the cut or will get locked out when I do.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t go into why in such short space, but I blame the mindset of industrialized America for a lot of this kind of disastrous thinking.</p>
<p>Thanks for getting the word out on this, Robert&#8211; I hope someone in a position to affect change sees it.</p>
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