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		<title>Erkki Tapola on kommentoinut artikkelia Jos sinulla on vain vasara…</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erkki Tapola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eikä asiakaskaan yleensä jää huonosta valinnasta osattomaksi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eikä asiakaskaan yleensä jää huonosta valinnasta osattomaksi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Lari H on kommentoinut artikkelia Single supplier -työkalut</title>
		<link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/codento-comments/~3/3ZZr07Uy0uc/</link>
		<dc:creator>Lari H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilmainen vaihtoehto on olemassa, mutta se ei missään tapauksessa ole JRebelin veroinen. VMWare/SpringSource:n Spring Tool Suite (http://www.springsource.com/developer/sts) "Eclipse jakelussa" on mukana "VMware vFabric tc Server Developer Edition", jossa on "Java Agent based reloading (experimental)" konfigurointi optio. Tällä on sisäinen nimi SpringLoaded (com.springsource.loaded.agent.SpringLoadedAgent) eikä siitä löydy vielä mitään kunnollista julkista dokumentaatiota.
SpringLoaded on jo käytössä Grails 2.0 ja Spring Roo alustoissa. 
SpringLoaded toimii ainakin perus JEE websovelluksille (jotka voidaan asentaa Tomcatiin).
Jotain huhuja on olemassa, että VMWare/SpringSource julkaisisi STS:n opensourcena ensi vuonna. Tällä hetkellä se on maksuton kaupallinen tuote. SpringLoaded:ista saattaa muodostoa varteen otettava kilpailija JRebel:ille, varsinkin jos se julkaistaan opensourcena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilmainen vaihtoehto on olemassa, mutta se ei missään tapauksessa ole JRebelin veroinen. VMWare/SpringSource:n Spring Tool Suite (<a href="http://www.springsource.com/developer/sts" rel="nofollow">http://www.springsource.com/developer/sts</a>) &#8220;Eclipse jakelussa&#8221; on mukana &#8220;VMware vFabric tc Server Developer Edition&#8221;, jossa on &#8220;Java Agent based reloading (experimental)&#8221; konfigurointi optio. Tällä on sisäinen nimi SpringLoaded (com.springsource.loaded.agent.SpringLoadedAgent) eikä siitä löydy vielä mitään kunnollista julkista dokumentaatiota.<br />
SpringLoaded on jo käytössä Grails 2.0 ja Spring Roo alustoissa.<br />
SpringLoaded toimii ainakin perus JEE websovelluksille (jotka voidaan asentaa Tomcatiin).<br />
Jotain huhuja on olemassa, että VMWare/SpringSource julkaisisi STS:n opensourcena ensi vuonna. Tällä hetkellä se on maksuton kaupallinen tuote. SpringLoaded:ista saattaa muodostoa varteen otettava kilpailija JRebel:ille, varsinkin jos se julkaistaan opensourcena.</p>
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		<title>Santeri Paavolainen on kommentoinut artikkelia Ohjelmistoalan ammattilaisia</title>
		<link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/codento-comments/~3/ItXZw7Fxmgk/</link>
		<dc:creator>Santeri Paavolainen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.codento.com/?p=228#comment-119</guid>
		<description>Pakko linkata tähän http://wrttn.in/04af1a jossa vitsaillaan "engineering archeology":stä.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakko linkata tähän <a href="http://wrttn.in/04af1a" rel="nofollow">http://wrttn.in/04af1a</a> jossa vitsaillaan &#8220;engineering archeology&#8221;:stä.</p>
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		<title>Karoliina Luoto on kommentoinut artikkelia Kuinka ostaa ketterästi julkishallinnossa 23.11.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karoliina Luoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiitos loistavasta aamiaisseminaarista! Mahtavaa että joku järjestää tällaista.

Sellaisen pikku korjauksen olisin tehnyt että
mun nimi on Karoliina Luoto, ei Karoliina Kesti :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiitos loistavasta aamiaisseminaarista! Mahtavaa että joku järjestää tällaista.</p>
<p>Sellaisen pikku korjauksen olisin tehnyt että<br />
mun nimi on Karoliina Luoto, ei Karoliina Kesti <img src='http://blog.codento.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Mikko Ahonen on kommentoinut artikkelia Elastinen osaajapilvi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikko Ahonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.codento.com/?p=562#comment-93</guid>
		<description>I am working as CCP in my second project with Codento. I have other customers and partners in addition to Codento.

For me, this model is perfect at this point in my life and career. I can concentrate on doing what I like and I am good at, and avoid things I dislike, such as sales. And I can have more control over how I structure my use of time.

Additionally, when I work in bigger projects with other Codento people, such as now, I know that I am working with competent colleagues.

The benefit Codento compared to other companies that work with similar concepts is that they have more projects that are technically challenging as compared to typical "enterprise" style projects. As I sub-contractor, only way to participate in such projects is through main contractors.

In general, typical pain points in contractor-subcontractor partnerships arise in the starting phase of  new projects. These pain points are not specific to Codento, but in my opinion Codento and other of my partners handle them OK.

One is the division of sales work between contractor and sub-contractor. Sometimes the customer wants more than one technical sales meeting. But from sub-contractors perspective, the contractor should be doing the selling. If I am doing most of the selling, it is no longer economically sensible for me to do sub-contracting.

Other is re-scoping. Sometimes projects start smaller than anticipated, and in such scenarios, contractors typically prioritize their own employees over sub-contractors. To some extent, this is part of the game.

But sometimes you meet contractors who knowingly mis-use this. They may use sub-contractors CVs to get projects which they know that will not have enough work for the sub-contractors. As a sub-contractors, this kind of behavior I wish to guard myself against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am working as CCP in my second project with Codento. I have other customers and partners in addition to Codento.</p>
<p>For me, this model is perfect at this point in my life and career. I can concentrate on doing what I like and I am good at, and avoid things I dislike, such as sales. And I can have more control over how I structure my use of time.</p>
<p>Additionally, when I work in bigger projects with other Codento people, such as now, I know that I am working with competent colleagues.</p>
<p>The benefit Codento compared to other companies that work with similar concepts is that they have more projects that are technically challenging as compared to typical &#8220;enterprise&#8221; style projects. As I sub-contractor, only way to participate in such projects is through main contractors.</p>
<p>In general, typical pain points in contractor-subcontractor partnerships arise in the starting phase of  new projects. These pain points are not specific to Codento, but in my opinion Codento and other of my partners handle them OK.</p>
<p>One is the division of sales work between contractor and sub-contractor. Sometimes the customer wants more than one technical sales meeting. But from sub-contractors perspective, the contractor should be doing the selling. If I am doing most of the selling, it is no longer economically sensible for me to do sub-contracting.</p>
<p>Other is re-scoping. Sometimes projects start smaller than anticipated, and in such scenarios, contractors typically prioritize their own employees over sub-contractors. To some extent, this is part of the game.</p>
<p>But sometimes you meet contractors who knowingly mis-use this. They may use sub-contractors CVs to get projects which they know that will not have enough work for the sub-contractors. As a sub-contractors, this kind of behavior I wish to guard myself against.</p>
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		<title>Otso Kivekäs on kommentoinut artikkelia Elastinen osaajapilvi</title>
		<link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/codento-comments/~3/REUNWKVHFWQ/</link>
		<dc:creator>Otso Kivekäs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

We've been doing this for three years now, and I'd say it works quite well. The social life of the company includes partners alongside the employees nicely, not in 100% same way, but close enough. Projects work as projects tend to work: usually fine, but...

Perhaps some of our CCPs would be better to comment how it works from their perspective.

Economically it depends on what indicators you like to follow. Earnings and profits per employee are high, since there's less employees, but on the other hand profits are lower than all the same people as employees would bring (in situation when there's no shortage of work). I'd say that the traditional tools to follow company success are not exactly tuned for this model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been doing this for three years now, and I&#8217;d say it works quite well. The social life of the company includes partners alongside the employees nicely, not in 100% same way, but close enough. Projects work as projects tend to work: usually fine, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps some of our CCPs would be better to comment how it works from their perspective.</p>
<p>Economically it depends on what indicators you like to follow. Earnings and profits per employee are high, since there&#8217;s less employees, but on the other hand profits are lower than all the same people as employees would bring (in situation when there&#8217;s no shortage of work). I&#8217;d say that the traditional tools to follow company success are not exactly tuned for this model.</p>
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		<title>Vasco Duarte on kommentoinut artikkelia Elastinen osaajapilvi</title>
		<link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/codento-comments/~3/0VzJuISeFlY/</link>
		<dc:creator>Vasco Duarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea and concept. It would be great to see how it works out for you guys. 
Will you publish results on that program here? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea and concept. It would be great to see how it works out for you guys.<br />
Will you publish results on that program here? <img src='http://blog.codento.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Antti Rasinen on kommentoinut artikkelia Guido van Rossumin kahden sentin virhe</title>
		<link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/codento-comments/~3/uhDDZRp76F8/</link>
		<dc:creator>Antti Rasinen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.codento.com/?p=543#comment-90</guid>
		<description>Laitan is-operaattorin suhteen hieman lisää vettä myllyyn.

&gt;&gt;&gt; a, b = 1000, 1000; a is b
True

Mutta.

&gt;&gt;&gt; a = 1000
&gt;&gt;&gt; b = 1000
&gt;&gt;&gt; a is b
False


Jujuna tässä on se, että is-operaattori vertaa nimenomaan olioiden identiteettiä keskenään. Koska kokonaisluvut ovat muuttumattomia olioita, ei tulkki luo aina uutta oliota vaan käyttää juuri luomaansa oliota uudestaan. 

Tehokkuussyistä myös kaikki pienet positiiviset kokonaisluvut luodaan tulkin käynnistyessä muistiin. Niillä yllä oleva temppu ei onnistu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laitan is-operaattorin suhteen hieman lisää vettä myllyyn.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; a, b = 1000, 1000; a is b<br />
True</p>
<p>Mutta.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; a = 1000<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; b = 1000<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; a is b<br />
False</p>
<p>Jujuna tässä on se, että is-operaattori vertaa nimenomaan olioiden identiteettiä keskenään. Koska kokonaisluvut ovat muuttumattomia olioita, ei tulkki luo aina uutta oliota vaan käyttää juuri luomaansa oliota uudestaan. </p>
<p>Tehokkuussyistä myös kaikki pienet positiiviset kokonaisluvut luodaan tulkin käynnistyessä muistiin. Niillä yllä oleva temppu ei onnistu.</p>
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		<title>Sami J. Lehtinen on kommentoinut artikkelia Kahdenkertainen kirjanpito ajanseurannassa</title>
		<link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/codento-comments/~3/ilNHMZxkKmc/</link>
		<dc:creator>Sami J. Lehtinen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peukkua tälle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peukkua tälle.</p>
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		<title>Rackspace starttasi europilven « Pilvi.com on kommentoinut artikkelia EC2-instanssit 30 sekunnissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rackspace starttasi europilven « Pilvi.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jos äkillinen tarve laskentakapasiteetille iskee, ei tilaus ole kummallakaan palveluntarjoajalle niin helppoa kuin luulisi. Kliksuttelu netissä päihittää perinteisen toimittajan kanssa nautitut palaverikahvit, mutta vaatii annoksen malttia . Ensijärkytyksen jälkeen voi tilin avaamiseen tuhrautuvat minuutit kutistaa sekunteihin, jos osaa. [...]</p>
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