Comments for Not So Relevant http://notsorelevant.com Thoughts and news about the open and social web Mon, 10 May 2010 00:40:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc Comment on The Open Web is Dead by Carsten Pötter http://notsorelevant.com/2010-05-09/the-open-web-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-9163 Carsten Pötter Mon, 10 May 2010 00:40:38 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1351#comment-9163 Kind of. I remember someone saying about OpenID: "I don't want my identity to be open all over the web". Or at least a similar sentence. I don't find the quote anymore; it was about two years ago. Anyway, back then I laughed, though this time it's different. Kind of. I remember someone saying about OpenID: “I don't want my identity to be open all over the web”. Or at least a similar sentence. I don't find the quote anymore; it was about two years ago. Anyway, back then I laughed, though this time it's different.

]]> Comment on The Open Web is Dead by marcel weiss http://notsorelevant.com/2010-05-09/the-open-web-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-9162 marcel weiss Sun, 09 May 2010 23:04:25 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1351#comment-9162 Yeah, those two statements are pretty ridiculous. Yeah, those two statements are pretty ridiculous.

]]> Comment on Disqus Improves User Experience of OpenID by Wendara Lewis http://notsorelevant.com/2010-02-13/disqus-improves-user-experience-of-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-9164 Wendara Lewis Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:39:00 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1320#comment-9164 Disqus is the top commenting platform in my opinion. Not only is Facebook Connect integration nice but allowing users to also use their Twitter accounts to leave comments is awesome.. Disqus is the top commenting platform in my opinion. Not only is Facebook Connect integration nice but allowing users to also use their Twitter accounts to leave comments is awesome..

]]> Comment on Disqus Improves User Experience of OpenID by Carsten Pötter http://notsorelevant.com/2010-02-13/disqus-improves-user-experience-of-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-9146 Carsten Pötter Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:42:23 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1320#comment-9146 Yes, it does. Though I don't want to sound rude but how is your comment related to this post other than promoting the linked website? Until you convince me to add it again, the URL will stay deleted. Yes, it does. Though I don't want to sound rude but how is your comment related to this post other than promoting the linked website? Until you convince me to add it again, the URL will stay deleted.

]]> Comment on Disqus Improves User Experience of OpenID by David Cowell http://notsorelevant.com/2010-02-13/disqus-improves-user-experience-of-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-9145 David Cowell Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:52:46 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1320#comment-9145 DISQUS is that it automatically integrates ‘Facebook Connect’ that allows facebook users to leave comments just with one click. DISQUS is that it automatically integrates ‘Facebook Connect’ that allows facebook users to leave comments just with one click.

]]> Comment on OpenID: Another Connect and Marketing by Carsten Pötter http://notsorelevant.com/2010-01-06/openid-another-connect-and-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-9142 Carsten Pötter Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:24:00 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1293#comment-9142 MyOpenID’s phone verification is an additional security feature which can be turned off. I don’t use it. It is up to OpenID providers how they authenticate users. Anyway, this feature is not part of the OpenID protocol, so you’re readers probably don’t have to do this extra step. MyOpenID’s phone verification is an additional security feature which can be turned off. I don’t use it. It is up to OpenID providers how they authenticate users. Anyway, this feature is not part of the OpenID protocol, so you’re readers probably don’t have to do this extra step.

]]> Comment on OpenID: Another Connect and Marketing by Carsten Pötter http://notsorelevant.com/2010-01-06/openid-another-connect-and-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-9141 Carsten Pötter Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:24:00 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1293#comment-9141 MyOpenID’s phone verification is an additional security feature which can be turned off. I don’t use it. It is up to OpenID providers how they authenticate users. Anyway, this feature is not part of the OpenID protocol, so you’re readers probably don’t have to do this extra step. MyOpenID’s phone verification is an additional security feature which can be turned off. I don’t use it. It is up to OpenID providers how they authenticate users. Anyway, this feature is not part of the OpenID protocol, so you’re readers probably don’t have to do this extra step.

]]> Comment on OpenID: Another Connect and Marketing by Social Media http://notsorelevant.com/2010-01-06/openid-another-connect-and-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-9140 Social Media Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:06:32 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1293#comment-9140 I've been using JanRain's OpenID (MyOpenID) for awhile now. When I submit a relevant content or comment on a site, I am required to accept the incoming "Phone Verification" call and then asked to click the pound # sign to complete the verification process. I'm not sure the readers of my <strong><a bitly="BITLY_PROCESSED" href="http://www.ferreemoney.com" rel="nofollow">Social Media Marketing Plus</a></strong> Blog would be willing to do this on each session. I've been using JanRain's OpenID (MyOpenID) for awhile now. When I submit a relevant content or comment on a site, I am required to accept the incoming “Phone Verification” call and then asked to click the pound # sign to complete the verification process. I'm not sure the readers of my Social Media Marketing Plus Blog would be willing to do this on each session.

]]> Comment on OpenID: Another Connect and Marketing by Carsten Pötter http://notsorelevant.com/2010-01-06/openid-another-connect-and-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-9136 Carsten Pötter Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:53:31 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1293#comment-9136 Yes, Facebook’s advantages are definitely its large user base and the, admittedly, great user experience of FB Connect.<br><br>Regarding sign-ups, an even better choice would be JanRain’s RPX solution (<a href="http://rpxnow.com/" rel="nofollow">http://rpxnow.com/</a>) which integrates OpenID, FB Connect, Twitter, and the familiar logo buttons of Google, MySpace, and Yahoo, which are OpenIDs anyway. A website which only aims for sign-ups would be best advised to use RPX (I don’t get paid by JanRain, no, no ;)).<br><br>FB Connect’s main disadvantage is Facebook itself. It will be one big identity silo in the end. Does everyone want to be associated with FB when logging in to another website? And only data which is stored at Facebook and Facebook allows to be transferred can be shared. There are no external services involved (yet). But maybe that will be part of another post.<br><br>Oh yeah, thanks for the link reg. Facebook and email. I knew I read it somewhere but didn’t remember to check the obvious source. Yes, Facebook’s advantages are definitely its large user base and the, admittedly, great user experience of FB Connect.

Regarding sign-ups, an even better choice would be JanRain’s RPX solution (http://rpxnow.com/) which integrates OpenID, FB Connect, Twitter, and the familiar logo buttons of Google, MySpace, and Yahoo, which are OpenIDs anyway. A website which only aims for sign-ups would be best advised to use RPX (I don’t get paid by JanRain, no, no ;) ).

FB Connect’s main disadvantage is Facebook itself. It will be one big identity silo in the end. Does everyone want to be associated with FB when logging in to another website? And only data which is stored at Facebook and Facebook allows to be transferred can be shared. There are no external services involved (yet). But maybe that will be part of another post.

Oh yeah, thanks for the link reg. Facebook and email. I knew I read it somewhere but didn’t remember to check the obvious source.

]]> Comment on OpenID: Another Connect and Marketing by Hutch Carpenter http://notsorelevant.com/2010-01-06/openid-another-connect-and-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-9135 Hutch Carpenter Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:24:18 +0000 http://notsorelevant.com/?p=1293#comment-9135 I'll give you my perspective on this. For an external site seeking sign-ups, there's an attraction to something like FB Connect. Why? Familiarity and ubiquity. Facebook has high engagement stats, it's become the favorite hangout for much of the world (even more so than Twitter). And with 300 million users, it's a leading source of credentials. <br><br>They've made their privacy mistakes, but fundamentally, people continue to trust Facebook. So...<br> - Trust<br> - Brand<br> - Ubiquity <br><br>...make it a strong choice to be the credentialing service for a site. As for the email inclusion, apparently that's coming soon from Facebook, per their developers wiki:<br><br><a href="http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Roadmap_Email" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/R...</a><br><br>Thanks Carsten for writing this up. I do want to see how OpenID develops.<br><br>Hutch I'll give you my perspective on this. For an external site seeking sign-ups, there's an attraction to something like FB Connect. Why? Familiarity and ubiquity. Facebook has high engagement stats, it's become the favorite hangout for much of the world (even more so than Twitter). And with 300 million users, it's a leading source of credentials.

They've made their privacy mistakes, but fundamentally, people continue to trust Facebook. So…
– Trust
– Brand
– Ubiquity

…make it a strong choice to be the credentialing service for a site. As for the email inclusion, apparently that's coming soon from Facebook, per their developers wiki:

http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/R...

Thanks Carsten for writing this up. I do want to see how OpenID develops.

Hutch

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