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	<title>Comments for Bill Dalton</title>
	
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		<title>Comment on Rates and Debt by Ewan McGregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewan McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure is good to see your provocative comments back on your blog Bill. And yes, the level, of local body rate raises is troubling and we councillors need to address it. This is certainly an area for the press to investigate, including an analysis of the extra resposibilities that have been off-loaded onto councils. 

One way in Hawkes Bay though, that offers potential for real savings is...well...um, let's make 2012, or at least the first half of it, an amalgamation free zone.
Cheers
Ewan Mac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure is good to see your provocative comments back on your blog Bill. And yes, the level, of local body rate raises is troubling and we councillors need to address it. This is certainly an area for the press to investigate, including an analysis of the extra resposibilities that have been off-loaded onto councils. </p>
<p>One way in Hawkes Bay though, that offers potential for real savings is&#8230;well&#8230;um, let&#8217;s make 2012, or at least the first half of it, an amalgamation free zone.<br />
Cheers<br />
Ewan Mac</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nash Let Down by Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill

We have enjoyed your informed and entertaining ramblings and look forward to further commentaries. Your assistance and dedicated service as a hard working City Councillor throughout the year has been appreciated.

We wish you and Shirley a joyful Christmas and may 2012 be a year of good health and happiness.

Thanks again
Larry and Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill</p>
<p>We have enjoyed your informed and entertaining ramblings and look forward to further commentaries. Your assistance and dedicated service as a hard working City Councillor throughout the year has been appreciated.</p>
<p>We wish you and Shirley a joyful Christmas and may 2012 be a year of good health and happiness.</p>
<p>Thanks again<br />
Larry and Sue</p>
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		<title>Comment on Taking the people with you. by Peter McAlley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter McAlley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Chris Tremain read National Party.

Perhaps Labour voters cared more about voting than National voters??

Just another point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Chris Tremain read National Party.</p>
<p>Perhaps Labour voters cared more about voting than National voters??</p>
<p>Just another point of view.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Appalling System by Ewan McGregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewan McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, I agree totally with your comments about MMP. National’s polling was most impressive and I think only the fourth time for at least 120 years that a government had increased its poll percentage – the others being 1938, snap election of 1951 and 1987. Yet Key still has to cobble up a coalition with parties that polled a tiny %age of votes.
 
But there is another weakness of MMP and it is the presumption of a list MP being a constituency MP without any mandate whatsoever. This is the first of the five MMP terms when this has not been the case in HB. We have had Tolley, Fairbrother and Nash as de facto Napier MPs, Barker for Hastings and Kirton as the “independent MP for Hawkes Bay”. If this is democracy then I don’t understand the term
 
List MPs only mandate – and accountability - is to their party, which put them into Parliament. I believe that list MPs should be based in Wellington where they can then perform their function of furthering the cause of their party via caucus and parliament. (That’s after all where cabinet ministers reside.) Instead they choose a nice place to live and/or where they have a prospect of ousting the sitting MP in the next election. There’s a saving here too because the long suffering taxpayer wouldn’t have to fund an ‘electorate’ office.
 
If I have the chance I will be vigorously representing that view if there is any enquiry.


Cheers
Ewan Mac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I agree totally with your comments about MMP. National’s polling was most impressive and I think only the fourth time for at least 120 years that a government had increased its poll percentage – the others being 1938, snap election of 1951 and 1987. Yet Key still has to cobble up a coalition with parties that polled a tiny %age of votes.</p>
<p>But there is another weakness of MMP and it is the presumption of a list MP being a constituency MP without any mandate whatsoever. This is the first of the five MMP terms when this has not been the case in HB. We have had Tolley, Fairbrother and Nash as de facto Napier MPs, Barker for Hastings and Kirton as the “independent MP for Hawkes Bay”. If this is democracy then I don’t understand the term</p>
<p>List MPs only mandate – and accountability &#8211; is to their party, which put them into Parliament. I believe that list MPs should be based in Wellington where they can then perform their function of furthering the cause of their party via caucus and parliament. (That’s after all where cabinet ministers reside.) Instead they choose a nice place to live and/or where they have a prospect of ousting the sitting MP in the next election. There’s a saving here too because the long suffering taxpayer wouldn’t have to fund an ‘electorate’ office.</p>
<p>If I have the chance I will be vigorously representing that view if there is any enquiry.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Ewan Mac</p>
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		<title>Comment on Key Stakeholders by Mike Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it humorous that you think Yule is getting bad advice. He's a Mayor and you're not, despite your long held aspirations. Perhaps you should take some of Yule's advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it humorous that you think Yule is getting bad advice. He&#8217;s a Mayor and you&#8217;re not, despite your long held aspirations. Perhaps you should take some of Yule&#8217;s advice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Need the Truth by Bill Dalton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,

Your information is half correct and not surprisingly your "error" paints Napier in a bad light.

You have chosen to use our typically conservative budget figures which cover interest rate movements and the timing of draw downs for major projects. The figures you should have used are the actuals and they are available on the web.

Your figure of 9% for Hastings is about right.

Let me share with you the correct figures contained in Napier's annual reports which are audited by Audit New Zealand.

Proportion of Rates Revenue applied to Service Debt (Internal and External Debt)
2009/2010      5.54%
2010/2011      4.8%

Perhaps if you have published incorrect numbers on your blog you might like to publish a correction

Cheers,
Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Your information is half correct and not surprisingly your &#8220;error&#8221; paints Napier in a bad light.</p>
<p>You have chosen to use our typically conservative budget figures which cover interest rate movements and the timing of draw downs for major projects. The figures you should have used are the actuals and they are available on the web.</p>
<p>Your figure of 9% for Hastings is about right.</p>
<p>Let me share with you the correct figures contained in Napier&#8217;s annual reports which are audited by Audit New Zealand.</p>
<p>Proportion of Rates Revenue applied to Service Debt (Internal and External Debt)<br />
2009/2010      5.54%<br />
2010/2011      4.8%</p>
<p>Perhaps if you have published incorrect numbers on your blog you might like to publish a correction</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Need the Truth by Tom Belford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Belford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bill,

As you might be aware, I've published a BayBuzz article that includes this statement: 

“Paying interest on debt costs Napier ratepayers more proportionately than Hastings ratepayers. In Napier, about 13-15% of rates goes to servicing debt, whereas this figure is about 9% for Hastings. Perhaps a surprise to Napier ratepayers.”

You seem to be unaware of these figures. They were pointed out to me by NCC’s accounting manager. They’re taken from Napier’s Long Term Plan. I’m sure she can help you find them.

Cheers,
Tom Belford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bill,</p>
<p>As you might be aware, I&#8217;ve published a BayBuzz article that includes this statement: </p>
<p>“Paying interest on debt costs Napier ratepayers more proportionately than Hastings ratepayers. In Napier, about 13-15% of rates goes to servicing debt, whereas this figure is about 9% for Hastings. Perhaps a surprise to Napier ratepayers.”</p>
<p>You seem to be unaware of these figures. They were pointed out to me by NCC’s accounting manager. They’re taken from Napier’s Long Term Plan. I’m sure she can help you find them.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Tom Belford</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cost of Living by Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill

Your ability to bargain hunt in the supermarket is amazing, your talent in the kitchen is impressive and your stew recipe sounds really delicious. If your guests brought a nice Ozzie shiraz or HB pinot to complete the menu, it would be even cheaper. Would you consider swapping your steak casserole recipe for my treasured mince recipe?

May your strategic planning and review of the Long Term Plan go well. My project of interest is not suited to long term planning so a review at this time would not be expected.

Couple of things, while cooking, are you known to tilt your red wine glass over the stew? And most Chefs have a tea towel flung over the shoulder - which shoulder do you use?

Bon appetit and keep up with the good work
Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill</p>
<p>Your ability to bargain hunt in the supermarket is amazing, your talent in the kitchen is impressive and your stew recipe sounds really delicious. If your guests brought a nice Ozzie shiraz or HB pinot to complete the menu, it would be even cheaper. Would you consider swapping your steak casserole recipe for my treasured mince recipe?</p>
<p>May your strategic planning and review of the Long Term Plan go well. My project of interest is not suited to long term planning so a review at this time would not be expected.</p>
<p>Couple of things, while cooking, are you known to tilt your red wine glass over the stew? And most Chefs have a tea towel flung over the shoulder &#8211; which shoulder do you use?</p>
<p>Bon appetit and keep up with the good work<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stand Up and be Counted by Bill Dalton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ewan - Your contention is based on a wild assumption. We have no certainty as to how any new council would be made up. I would suggest that many supporters of amalgamation would not envisage the set-up you suggest.
Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewan &#8211; Your contention is based on a wild assumption. We have no certainty as to how any new council would be made up. I would suggest that many supporters of amalgamation would not envisage the set-up you suggest.<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stand Up and be Counted by Ewan McGregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewan McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll answer your last question Bill. You assume that the HDC will be a ward in an amalgamated HB council, as will Napier. Therefor Hastings will dominate Napier. Such must not be the case, and wont. I would suggest a council of 15 plus a mayor. 6 from Napier, 6 from urban Hastings with a similar population, and 3 from (say) 3 rural wards. How can 6 out of 15 dominate another ward of 6? Simple answer for a simple question.
Cheers
Ewan Mac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll answer your last question Bill. You assume that the HDC will be a ward in an amalgamated HB council, as will Napier. Therefor Hastings will dominate Napier. Such must not be the case, and wont. I would suggest a council of 15 plus a mayor. 6 from Napier, 6 from urban Hastings with a similar population, and 3 from (say) 3 rural wards. How can 6 out of 15 dominate another ward of 6? Simple answer for a simple question.<br />
Cheers<br />
Ewan Mac</p>
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