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		<title>Comment on The Best Mobile Web Conferences are Coming Soon by Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks promising! I hope materials (videos especially) will be available online later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks promising! I hope materials (videos especially) will be available online later.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Apple.com will serve retina images to new iPads by Jason Grigsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Grigsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Avi Yes, that’s what the responsive images community is working on:
http://www.w3.org/community/respimg/

@Janne there is nothing in the request headers that can tell you what the resolution of the device will be. :-(

@ian Yes, mediaqueries will help with CSS images. Some of these images could have been better handles as CSS. Or font-face declarations. Some are actual content that should be treated in the content of the page as an img tag. For images that should use the img tag, there are no great solutions:
http://cloudfour.com/responsive-imgs-part-2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Avi Yes, that’s what the responsive images community is working on:<br />
<a href="http://www.w3.org/community/respimg/" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/community/respimg/</a></p>
<p>@Janne there is nothing in the request headers that can tell you what the resolution of the device will be. :-(</p>
<p>@ian Yes, mediaqueries will help with CSS images. Some of these images could have been better handles as CSS. Or font-face declarations. Some are actual content that should be treated in the content of the page as an img tag. For images that should use the img tag, there are no great solutions:<br />
<a href="http://cloudfour.com/responsive-imgs-part-2/" rel="nofollow">http://cloudfour.com/responsive-imgs-part-2/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Will Apple’s New TV Feature a Browser? by Arthi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 15:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope that there will be an integrated browser. thats the next step to do. But thanks for all the information, i searched a lot for it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope that there will be an integrated browser. thats the next step to do. But thanks for all the information, i searched a lot for it :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Apple.com will serve retina images to new iPads by Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is bullshit, using javascript to load the images is ridiculous, even if you detect the type of image before anything has loaded you are still requesting both images. Imagine that on a 3G connection.

Avi is correct it should be built into the img tag, the same way lowsrc was used for slower connections.

There is an existing technology ALREADY designed for this called media queries, whoever is doing the heavy lifting here is specifically targeting iPads and shoud not be looking to this as a foolproof method of serving up retina images for the web. 

See here for a better solution.  http://blog.iwalt.com/2010/06/targeting-the-iphone-4-retina-display-with-css3-media-queries.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bullshit, using javascript to load the images is ridiculous, even if you detect the type of image before anything has loaded you are still requesting both images. Imagine that on a 3G connection.</p>
<p>Avi is correct it should be built into the img tag, the same way lowsrc was used for slower connections.</p>
<p>There is an existing technology ALREADY designed for this called media queries, whoever is doing the heavy lifting here is specifically targeting iPads and shoud not be looking to this as a foolproof method of serving up retina images for the web. </p>
<p>See here for a better solution.  <a href="http://blog.iwalt.com/2010/06/targeting-the-iphone-4-retina-display-with-css3-media-queries.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.iwalt.com/2010/06/targeting-the-iphone-4-retina-display-with-css3-media-queries.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on How Apple.com will serve retina images to new iPads by Janne Savukoski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janne Savukoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the decision logic is (or can be) based solely on data that will be in the request headers, why don't you just configure the httpd to serve different assets? With appropriate vary-headers to be cache-friendly.

This is such an obvious solution, though, that there must be some fallacy I didn't think of…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the decision logic is (or can be) based solely on data that will be in the request headers, why don&#8217;t you just configure the httpd to serve different assets? With appropriate vary-headers to be cache-friendly.</p>
<p>This is such an obvious solution, though, that there must be some fallacy I didn&#8217;t think of…</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Apple.com will serve retina images to new iPads by Henrik N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 11:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could probably do away with the HEAD request by something like `new Image().src = "…"` and checking for onload/onerror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could probably do away with the HEAD request by something like `new Image().src = &#8220;…&#8221;` and checking for onload/onerror.</p>
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		<title>Comment on First thing you should do to optimize your desktop site for mobile by Jason Grigsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Grigsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@yuiop Thanks for the anonymous comment.

1. We had a mobile version until last week. We got infected by the current wordpress malware that is going around (http://blog.sucuri.net/2012/03/rr-nu-malware-campain-more-details.html). Last week there was no specific vector that the attack was coming from. Ergo, we turned off any plugins that were unnecessary including the one that did theme switching to our mobile theme.

2. The theme switching plugin is unnecessary because we’re nearing completion of a new responsive site and plan to launch it in the coming days. No need to invest more time in the current site other than to clean up the malware crap.

3. As the saying goes, the cobbler’s children have no shoes. We’ve spent on our time our client projects and not on our own site. We’re keenly aware of its short comings.

Finally, thank you for putting us in our place. It’s nice to know you’re looking out for us. Have a pleasant day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@yuiop Thanks for the anonymous comment.</p>
<p>1. We had a mobile version until last week. We got infected by the current wordpress malware that is going around (<a href="http://blog.sucuri.net/2012/03/rr-nu-malware-campain-more-details.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.sucuri.net/2012/03/rr-nu-malware-campain-more-details.html</a>). Last week there was no specific vector that the attack was coming from. Ergo, we turned off any plugins that were unnecessary including the one that did theme switching to our mobile theme.</p>
<p>2. The theme switching plugin is unnecessary because we’re nearing completion of a new responsive site and plan to launch it in the coming days. No need to invest more time in the current site other than to clean up the malware crap.</p>
<p>3. As the saying goes, the cobbler’s children have no shoes. We’ve spent on our time our client projects and not on our own site. We’re keenly aware of its short comings.</p>
<p>Finally, thank you for putting us in our place. It’s nice to know you’re looking out for us. Have a pleasant day!</p>
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		<title>Comment on First thing you should do to optimize your desktop site for mobile by yuiop</title>
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		<dc:creator>yuiop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where is your mobile version? Hypocrites</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where is your mobile version? Hypocrites</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Apple.com will serve retina images to new iPads by Avi Flax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Flax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems like something that should be built-in to the img tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like something that should be built-in to the img tag.</p>
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		<title>Comment on First thing you should do to optimize your desktop site for mobile by Scott Jehl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Jehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Jason. Completely agreed. On the framework end of things, we're trying hard to get jQuery Mobile's dependencies down so smaller builds are possible. Looks like 12kb gets you plenty of the goodies without specific widgets now, so we're making progress...

Brett: On the Globe site, we prototyped with a php/htaccess setup that simply split a comma-separated URL into files and concatenated/minified/gzipped the output. For JS, we loaded only about 5kb up front, which contained feature tests and media query polyfills, from there, we dynamically loaded all the rest of the JS and Ads, so even if they were a little heavier than we'd wanted, they at least would not block an already-usable page from being used. 

In production, The Globe team rebuilt our prototype in their own preferred tech - the solution is easy enough to reproduce, and this doesn't include the minify part, but you might check out "CSS and Javascript Combinator 0.5 by Niels Leenheer" to help you get the gears churning:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jason. Completely agreed. On the framework end of things, we&#8217;re trying hard to get jQuery Mobile&#8217;s dependencies down so smaller builds are possible. Looks like 12kb gets you plenty of the goodies without specific widgets now, so we&#8217;re making progress&#8230;</p>
<p>Brett: On the Globe site, we prototyped with a php/htaccess setup that simply split a comma-separated URL into files and concatenated/minified/gzipped the output. For JS, we loaded only about 5kb up front, which contained feature tests and media query polyfills, from there, we dynamically loaded all the rest of the JS and Ads, so even if they were a little heavier than we&#8217;d wanted, they at least would not block an already-usable page from being used. </p>
<p>In production, The Globe team rebuilt our prototype in their own preferred tech &#8211; the solution is easy enough to reproduce, and this doesn&#8217;t include the minify part, but you might check out &#8220;CSS and Javascript Combinator 0.5 by Niels Leenheer&#8221; to help you get the gears churning:</p>
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