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Loftus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13565890121197051580</uri><email>johnwloftus@verizon.net</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="07745353731295799675" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2009/11/notre-dame-conference-my-ways-are-not.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-7326155098205756539</id><published>2009-11-08T20:39:00.017-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-09T08:27:26.028-05:00</updated><title type="text">On God Answering Prayers Retroactively</title><content type="html">Christians like C.S. Lewis and recently William A. Dembski in his book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/End-Christianity-Finding-Good-World/dp/0805427430/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257728504&amp;sr=1-1"target="_blank"&gt;The End of Christianity&lt;/a&gt;, claim God can answers prayers retroactively. Kevin Timpe explains by saying "past directed prayers, as I understand them, are requests for God to have done something at a time prior to the time of the prayer." And he argues like Lewis and Dembski that God does in fact answer these prayers on most accounts of God's foreknowledge. ["Prayers for the Past" &lt;i&gt;Religious Studies&lt;/i&gt; (2005) 41, 305–322. This raises some interesting problems and allows me to propose a scientific test for prayer.&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, here's some of the problems. Consider this scenario by Timpe: &lt;blockquote&gt;Allison is watching the morning news, and learns that a tornado touched down in western Ohio the previous evening, leaving a path of devastation and destruction in its wake. The news anchor reports that seventeen homes were destroyed by the tornado, and that one individual was killed. Allison’s father lives in the area affected by the storm. As she runs to the phone to call him, she offers a prayer that he may not have been the one killed in the tornado. Even though she knows that the state of affairs she is praying about is already in the past, and that thus it is already a fact whether or not her father was killed, Allison thinks that her prayer might be efficacious in the same way that prayers for future states of affairs can be.&lt;/blockquote&gt;At the time Allison prayed she didn't know whether her father was killed or not. What if, as in many unanswered prayer cases, Allison finds that her father was killed? Then what? Should she continue to pray for his safety after learning about his death? Can God answer prayers retroactively or not? What difference would it make to God whether or not something happened in the past if he can answer prayers retroactively prior to the time of the prayer, as Timpe says? Isn't that precisely what it means to say God can answer prayers retroactively?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Furthermore let's say Allison had a brother named Ned who lived in a different time zone and heard the news about the tornado one hour later than Allison. Since Allison found out about their father's fate, whatever it was, one hour earlier, does this mean God could not answer Ned's prayer retroactively? If not, because the past is the past, then what about a neighbor who lived near their father who knew what had happened to their father before Allison did. Should either Allison or Ned expect their prayers can be answered once that neighbor found out? What difference does it make to God, if he is able to answer prayers retroactively, whether or not Allison and Ned had any knowledge about their father's fate? If God can answer these prayers then it should not make any difference who knows what or when, otherwise there will almost always be someone at the scene who will learn what happened earlier than when these types of prayers are prayed, which would make almost all such prayers unanswerable. If these prayers can be answered it should not make one whit of difference at all who knows what or when. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hence, if God answers prayers retroactively believers should pray for the past to be changed just as they do in praying for present and future hopes to be realized. Can these apologists really have it both ways, saying God can answer these prayers but also denying that the past can be changed?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So let me suggest a scientific test if God can answer these kinds of prayers, one that I broached in my book. Pick an event in the past and pray that God changes it. The event could be as simple as praying that some kids who were in a car accident and died the night before did not die because there was no accident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My prediction is that the past will never be changed AND that every prayer to change the past will be remembered by the one who prayed it precisely because nothing will ever change, ever. What's YOUR prediction?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is as sure of a test for prayer as we can get. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Come on Christian. 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Loftus</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13565890121197051580</uri><email>johnwloftus@verizon.net</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" name="OpenSocialUserId" value="07745353731295799675" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">56</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2009/11/what-have-i-learned-from-blogging-for.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21219785.post-2665533959413365483</id><published>2009-11-06T19:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-06T16:42:08.656-05:00</updated><title type="text">Guest Post by Kris Komarnitsky on his New Book, "Doubting Jesus' Resurrection"</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Doubting-Jesus-Resurrection-Happened-Black/dp/0982552807/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257522553&amp;sr=1-1"target="_blank"&gt;DOUBTING JESUS’ RESURRECTION: What Happened in the Black Box?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is one especially intriguing question that Christians frequently ask non-Christians. A recent example of this question &lt;a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/01/29/lee-strobel-answers-your-questions-part-3/"target="_blank"&gt;comes from&lt;/a&gt; Christian apologists &lt;a href="http://www.leestrobel.com/"target="_blank"&gt;Lee Strobel&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.garyhabermas.com/"target="_blank"&gt;Dr. Gary Habermas&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Utilizing each of the historical facts conceded by virtually all contemporary scholars, please produce a comprehensive natural explanation of Jesus’ resurrection that makes better sense than the event itself. These historical facts are: (1) Jesus was killed by crucifixion; (2) Jesus’ disciples believed that he rose and appeared to them; (3) The conversion of the church persecutor Saul, who became the Apostle Paul; (4) the conversion of the skeptic James, Jesus’ half-brother; (5) The empty tomb of Jesus. These “minimal facts” are strongly evidenced and are regarded as historical by the vast majority of scholars, including skeptics, who have written about the resurrection in French, German, and English since 1975. While the fifth fact doesn’t have quite the same virtual universal consensus, it nevertheless is conceded by 75 percent of the scholars and is well supported by the historical data if assessed without preconceptions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;We see this same basic challenge from resurrection defender &lt;a href="http://www.ntwrightpage.com/"target="_blank"&gt;Dr. N.T. Wright&lt;/a&gt;: “The [discovered] empty tomb and the ‘meetings’ with Jesus, when combined, present us with not only a &lt;i&gt;sufficient&lt;/i&gt; condition for the rise of early Christian belief, but also, it seems, a &lt;i&gt;necessary&lt;/i&gt; one. Nothing else historians have been able to come up with has the power to explain the phenomena before us” (&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Resurrection-Christian-Origins-Question-Vol/dp/0800626796/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257174631&amp;sr=1-1/?tag=creapage-20"target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Resurrection of the Son of God&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 2003, pg. 706).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my opinion these are fair questions from the traditional side of scholarship, and as a layman studying Christian origins, I found the responses from non-traditional scholarship not completely satisfying, or at least not very well or completely explained. The lack of a satisfactory response does not by default mean that Jesus resurrected from the dead, but it does spark the imagination. What really happened 2000 years ago that gave birth to Christianity?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I began my own inquiry into this question several years ago. I took as my starting point the beliefs and traditions expressed in &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 15:3-7&amp;version=NIV"target="_blank"&gt;1 Corinthians 15:3-7&lt;/a&gt; – Jesus died for our sins, was raised on the third day, and appeared to many people – widely recognized amongst scholars on both sides of the aisle to be the earliest known Christian beliefs and traditions, in existence well before any of the gospels were written.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In considering the possible causes of these beliefs and traditions, notice that Dr. Wright does not appeal to the historical reliability of the gospels. He is saying that even &lt;i&gt;apart&lt;/i&gt; from the gospel accounts of a discovered empty tomb and “meetings” with Jesus, nothing else historians have been able to come up with has the power to explain early Christian belief. Strobel and Habermas are not as open to explanations outside the confines of the gospels, but as Habermas admits, the discovered empty tomb tradition is the weakest of his five “facts”. Given this, I start my investigation by accepting the &lt;i&gt;possibility&lt;/i&gt; that the gospels could be mostly legend, including the discovered empty tomb tradition, but I accept as historical all four of Habermas’ other facts. For those who object to starting with the idea that the gospels could be mostly legend, hear me out, for not only is this exactly what Dr. Wright asked for, but I will show in a moment how this approach comes back full circle and impacts on the historical reliability of the gospels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the discovered empty tomb tradition is a legend, not only is Jesus’ resurrection effectively ruled out, but so are several non-traditional explanations for the rise of early Christian belief, like the stolen body theory, the moved body theory, and the theory that Jesus only appeared to be dead and then resuscitated. With these ruled out, there is only one explanation that jumps out at me as a plausible cause of the two-pronged belief that Jesus died for our sins and was raised, half of the 1 Cor 15:3-7 formula. That cause is the human phenomenon of cognitive dissonance reduction. Basically, this is the human tendency to rationalize a discontinuity between reality and one’s current beliefs in such a way that current beliefs are modified or added to instead of being rejected. Sometimes this results in extremely radical rationalizations. We have solid examples of this from other religious movements in history, such as the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millerism"target="_blank"&gt;Millerite&lt;/a&gt; movement, the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi"target="_blank"&gt;Sabbatai Zevi&lt;/a&gt; movement, and others. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This theory has of course been proposed before and the controversy surrounding it can be seen in Dr. Wright’s strong disagreement with it followed by Dr. Robert M. Price’s response to Wright’s critique. According to Wright, “The flaws in this argument [that cognitive dissonance caused early Christian belief] are so enormous that it is puzzling to find serious scholars still referring to it in deferential terms” (&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Resurrection-Christian-Origins-Question-Vol/dp/0800626796/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257174631&amp;sr=1-1/?tag=creapage-20"target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Resurrection of the Son of God&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, pg. 698; full critique pg. 697-701). Price &lt;a href="http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/rev_ntwrong.htm"target="_blank"&gt;responds with&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;...there are many viable explanations [for the rise of the belief that Jesus resurrected], not least Festinger’s theory of cognitive dissonance reduction, whereby more than one disappointed sect has turned defeat into zeal by means of face-saving denial. Wright &lt;i&gt;suicidally&lt;/i&gt; mentions this theory, only to dismiss it…with no serious attempt at refutation [emphasis added].&lt;/blockquote&gt;I agree with Price; Wright does not adequately rebut this idea. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finding the cognitive dissonance solution very plausible myself but feeling that it has not been communicated very well in discussions about Christian origins, and also feeling that there are solid explanations for the remaining beliefs and traditions in 1 Cor 15:3-7, I decided to write a book about it. For those who might be interested in this topic, my book can be found &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Doubting-Jesus-Resurrection-Happened-Black/dp/0982552807/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257175511&amp;sr=1-1/?tag=creapage-20"target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (and at &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doubting-Jesus-Resurrection-Happened-Black/dp/0982552807/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1256872329&amp;sr=1-1-spell/?tag= creat058-21"target="_blank"&gt;Amazon.uk&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Doubting-Jesus-Resurrection-Happened-Black/dp/0982552807/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1/?tag= creat0c2-20"target="_blank"&gt;Amazon.ca&lt;/a&gt;, and various other outlets). Here are excerpts of what a few well-known scholars have so far &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Doubting-Jesus-Resurrection-Happened-Black/dp/0982552807/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1257175511&amp;sr=1-1/?tag=creapage-20"target="_blank"&gt;said&lt;/a&gt; about my book:&lt;blockquote&gt;“Rare is it when a lay author puts in the effort of wide research, gathers the references to every point together, interacts with the leading disputes, and offers something soundly argued that hadn’t been so well argued before. Komarnitsky does all of that and presents a surprisingly excellent demonstration of how belief in the resurrection of Jesus could plausibly have originated by natural means....” –– &lt;a href="http://www.richardcarrier.info/"target="_blank"&gt;Richard Carrier&lt;/a&gt;, Ph.D. Ancient History&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Komarnitsky shows great acuity of judgment and clear-eyed perception of the issues. He does not claim to have proof of what happened at Christian origins, but he does present a powerfully plausible hypothesis for what might have happened...” –– &lt;a href="http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/"target="_blank"&gt;Robert M. Price&lt;/a&gt;, Ph.D. Theology, Ph.D. New Testament&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“...Komarnitsky’s book makes a solid contribution to the historical-critical understanding of these immensely important texts. This book deserves serious attention from scholars and all those interested in Christian Origins.” –– &lt;a href="http://www.westarinstitute.org/Fellows/millerrj.html"target="_blank"&gt;Robert J. Miller&lt;/a&gt;, Professor of Religious Studies, Juniata College&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Komarnitsky is addressing an important topic in a considered and rational way. This book offers the open-minded reader an opportunity to work through some of the key questions surrounding the Easter mystery that lies at the heart of Christian faith.” –– &lt;a href="http://wiki.faithfutures.org/index.php?title=Greg_Jenks"target="_blank"&gt;Gregory C. Jenks&lt;/a&gt;, Ph.D. FaithFutures Foundation&lt;/blockquote&gt;In short, my book attempts to condense a lot of thought that has gone into this topic, and adds what I think are a few missing links, to produce a single comprehensive natural explanation for the rise of the beliefs and traditions in 1 Cor 15:3-7, exactly what Strobel, Habermas, Wright, and others are asking for. I should add too that those looking for a confrontational repudiation of the Christian faith will be disappointed in my book. Instead, my book invites both believer and non-believer into a non-confrontational inquiry – a sequence of questions which all seem to have plausible answers and that together form an overall plausible answer for the rise of early Christian belief. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A plausible non-traditional explanation for the rise of the beliefs and traditions in 1 Cor 15:3-7 comes full circle and impacts on the historical reliability of the gospels. Why? Because 1 Cor 15:3-7 is used by traditionalists as external evidence for the historical reliability of the gospels. But if there is another plausible explanation for the rise of these beliefs and traditions, there is nothing about 1 Cor 15:3-7 itself that supports the conclusion that the gospels are more likely historical rather than legendary expansions of these beliefs and traditions. In short, traditional scholarship should not be using 1 Cor 15:3-7 to support their assertion that the gospels are historically reliable. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for giving me the opportunity to voice my opinion and introduce my book. I think other laypeople especially will find it readable and original in its approach to Christian origins, and I think it is the laypeople of the world who need to make sense of the arguments and claims that scholars make about their religious traditions.&lt;center&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=wwwdebunkingc-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=0982552807&amp;fc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;m=amazon&amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;bc1=000000&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;f=ifr" style="width:120px;height:240px;" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;i&gt;Doubting Jesus’ Resurrection: What Happened In The Black Box?&lt;/i&gt; is also available for immediate download to any personal computer for $9.99 at various ebook outlets.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21219785-2665533959413365483?l=debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Even believers can appreciate Stenger's fervent discussion of an emerging atheist movement, as he explains in his newest book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1591027519?tag=wwwdebunkingc-20&amp;camp=14573&amp;creative=327641&amp;linkCode=as1&amp;creativeASIN=1591027519&amp;adid=0HD7X9Z1J85KPE1NYCD3&amp;"target="_blank"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The New Atheism: Taking a Stand for Science and Reason&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;a name='more'&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PB:  What is the "New Atheism" and who is this book written for?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VS: The "New Atheism" is the harder line against faith and organized religion being taken by certain bestselling authors and others in the atheist community. I would hope that believers read the book, realize that the case against God is strong, and begin to develop doubts. I would hope that agnostics read the book, realize we can be sure that God does not exist, and become new atheists. I would hope that old atheists read the book, realize that for the good of society irrational faith should hot be tolerated, and become new atheists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PB:  How does the "New Atheism" differ from the concept of atheism that we know?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VS:  Many atheists and agnostics take a benign view of religion and think it provides some useful benefits to society. They also seek to find common ground with moderate believers in order to obtain their support for science, especially in the battle between evolutionists and creationists. New atheists view the battle between reason and superstition to be more important. They regard all faith as folly since it is not based on evidence, and the irrational faith of moderate churchgoers provide support for more fanatical believers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PB:  In your opinion, what is the most criticized aspect of atheism? Which aspect is easiest to embrace?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VS:  The most common charge is that atheism is immoral. This is easy to counter by looking at the facts. Atheists have higher moral standards than believers, who do not hesitate to force their beliefs on others. Freedom of thought is the easiest aspect of atheism to embrace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PB:  You note that the Bible -- trusted as divine revelation by millions -- fails as a basis for morality and is unable to account for the problem of unnecessary suffering throughout the world. What is some of the evidence supporting this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VS:  New atheists do not see scriptures as the source of morality. In fact, we see them as teaching much that is immoral, such as slavery and the subjugation of women. There are no original moral teachings in the Judeo-Christian-Islamic scriptures. Theologians have never been able to solve the problem of how an all-powerful, all-seeing, all-beneficent God can exist with all the gratuitous suffering in the world. The Bible claims that God punishes only the guilty, which is obviously untrue. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PB:  Atheism has grown in popularity in recent years, to what do you attribute its resurgence?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VS:  People are beginning to see that religion does not solve the problems of the world but rather exacerbates them. They have been turned off by Jewish, Christian, and Muslim fanaticism. 9/11 helped, but I think that science is also beginning to provide plausible natural explanations for observations. Once people learn about them they are able to free themselves from the argument from design. This has happened in cosmology, physics, biology, and neuroscience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PB:  In the preface of The New Atheism, you quote author and atheist Christopher Hitchens, who says, "There are ... atheists who say they wish the fable were true but are unable to suspend the requisite disbelief, or who have relinquished belief only with regret...." What is your opinion on this? Are non-atheists ever able to truly "let go" of theist beliefs to fully realize atheism?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VS:  Sure, non-atheists can let go of theist beliefs, as Hitchens concludes, "How happy we ought to be, at the reflection that there exists not a shred of respectable evidence for such a horrible hypothesis [permanent, unalterable, celestial despotism]."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21219785-7565529318399386876?l=debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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