A blog and podcast supporting, challenging and encouraging youth ministers. By Joe Ball, youth strategist for the Kentucky Baptist Convention.http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/en-usTue, 8 Sep 2009 11:56:57 PM -0400 Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:56:57 PM -0400 Tim Ashley Administrative areas that need the attention of the youth minister
Thanks for the post.]]>
Thanks for the post.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/OmqKm89ZIPk/08042009031022PMWEBQH2.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/08042009031022PMWEBQH2.htm?opendocument&comments#09082009115657PMWEB6N6.htm Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:17:48 PM -0400 Robert Reeves And he’s off ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/Vie8luZJk0E/08232009111834AMWEBKY6.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/08232009111834AMWEBKY6.htm?opendocument&comments#09022009101748PMWEB4Q7.htm Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:24:48 AM -0400 Robert How Parents Can Impact the Church Drop Out
In order for any of this to work, don't we have to integrate our youth into the church instead of separating them? Same for our children.

I think we need to give them 1. Relevance and 2. Significance. This isn't something you can teach I don't know how you go about it, but the first step to me is stop dividing the church up. We are supposed to be a family. The pastors need to take the lead.

If parents did their "job" would there even be a need for youth pastors? Shouldn't every student's pastor be their parents?

If parents were committed to raising their children by actually modelling their faith instead of talking about it, I submit the drop out rate would be much less. Yes, I'm frustrated.

Are parents committed? Really? Do Christian parents actually impact their children for Christian living by living it themselves? The culture engulfs them because their foundation is faulty and they have nothing to fight with.

What does the church do? What I see is the church often tries to use culture to pull them into church. It has largely failed because they don't see the relevance of faith in everyday life. The evidence is clear: less than 10% of "Christian" students remain active in their faith after high school.

I believe the church needs to repent of its ways we handle youth and many parents need to be re-established in their faith in order to take responsiblitiy for teaching their kids.]]>
In order for any of this to work, don't we have to integrate our youth into the church instead of separating them? Same for our children.

I think we need to give them 1. Relevance and 2. Significance. This isn't something you can teach I don't know how you go about it, but the first step to me is stop dividing the church up. We are supposed to be a family. The pastors need to take the lead.

If parents did their "job" would there even be a need for youth pastors? Shouldn't every student's pastor be their parents?

If parents were committed to raising their children by actually modelling their faith instead of talking about it, I submit the drop out rate would be much less. Yes, I'm frustrated.

Are parents committed? Really? Do Christian parents actually impact their children for Christian living by living it themselves? The culture engulfs them because their foundation is faulty and they have nothing to fight with.

What does the church do? What I see is the church often tries to use culture to pull them into church. It has largely failed because they don't see the relevance of faith in everyday life. The evidence is clear: less than 10% of "Christian" students remain active in their faith after high school.

I believe the church needs to repent of its ways we handle youth and many parents need to be re-established in their faith in order to take responsiblitiy for teaching their kids.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/_d1RgyiG0v4/08182009105141AMWEBKFC.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/08182009105141AMWEBKFC.htm?opendocument&comments#08212009082448AMWEBGKK.htm Thu, 6 Aug 2009 02:53:59 PM -0400 Robert Reeves Administrative areas that need the attention of the youth minister ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/RWNhpgz-gJ0/08042009031022PMWEBQH2.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/08042009031022PMWEBQH2.htm?opendocument&comments#08062009025359PMWEBQ6S.htm Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:19:26 PM -0400 Joe Survey Reveals What Youth Pastors Want Most: Support ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/8QUe6ux6vrc/07232009103824AMWEBK73.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/07232009103824AMWEBK73.htm?opendocument&comments#07302009021926PMWEBPH7.htm Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:24:15 PM -0400 Luke Survey Reveals What Youth Pastors Want Most: Support ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/wqpv8TUb2-o/07232009103824AMWEBK73.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/07232009103824AMWEBK73.htm?opendocument&comments#07232009122415PMWEBM98.htm Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:41:29 PM -0400 Joe 6 key relationships every youth minister must have
you are right, the lead pastor is of vital importance and should be a category of their own. Thanks for that.

I also realized that I left parents of students off the list. So now their are 8 realtionships every youth minister must have!]]>
you are right, the lead pastor is of vital importance and should be a category of their own. Thanks for that.

I also realized that I left parents of students off the list. So now their are 8 realtionships every youth minister must have!]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/5JHmuxbxcbw/6-key-relationships-every-youth-minister-must-have.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/6-key-relationships-every-youth-minister-must-have.htm?opendocument&comments#07142009094129PMWEB3ZG.htm Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:29:23 PM -0400 art rogers 6 key relationships every youth minister must have
I know you said other staff/volunteers, but I think those three - Lead Pastor, Other Staff and Volunteers all deserve categories of their own.

I know that I frequently struggled under Pastors that lacked vision and were poor listeners, but also flourished under a couple with a steady vision and a desire to help me to be the best YM I could be. Such a vital relationship that if I were starting over, I would not work for anything less (assuming the Lord's direction...). I try my best now to be the kind of Lead Pastor I needed when I was on the other side of the desk.

Other staff, should be friendly and not competitive. I've also had both of these experiences and couldn't begin to tell you how exasperating it could be to have a less than friendly fellow staff person, or one that undermined me to the personnel committee.

Volunteers? Well, you've already said so much, but I would add that nurturing those relationships are life's blood to a Youth Minister. You can't do it by yourself, and these people deserve to be led by an honest, transparent and nurturing friend.]]>
I know you said other staff/volunteers, but I think those three - Lead Pastor, Other Staff and Volunteers all deserve categories of their own.

I know that I frequently struggled under Pastors that lacked vision and were poor listeners, but also flourished under a couple with a steady vision and a desire to help me to be the best YM I could be. Such a vital relationship that if I were starting over, I would not work for anything less (assuming the Lord's direction...). I try my best now to be the kind of Lead Pastor I needed when I was on the other side of the desk.

Other staff, should be friendly and not competitive. I've also had both of these experiences and couldn't begin to tell you how exasperating it could be to have a less than friendly fellow staff person, or one that undermined me to the personnel committee.

Volunteers? Well, you've already said so much, but I would add that nurturing those relationships are life's blood to a Youth Minister. You can't do it by yourself, and these people deserve to be led by an honest, transparent and nurturing friend.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/a-1xNuCTCIA/6-key-relationships-every-youth-minister-must-have.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/6-key-relationships-every-youth-minister-must-have.htm?opendocument&comments#07132009072923PMWEBVJW.htm Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:02:38 PM -0400 KJ We are our own worst enemies ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/Gn0RzSMoGfU/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#07012009020238PMWEBP6P.htm Wed, 1 Jul 2009 01:42:11 PM -0400 KJ We are our own worst enemies ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/GOZwXeEsU3o/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#07012009014211PMWEBNRW.htm Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:07:14 PM -0400 Scott Douglas We are our own worst enemies
It made me sad to see such a widespread response like that, maybe in Orlando our act will be somewhat better]]>
It made me sad to see such a widespread response like that, maybe in Orlando our act will be somewhat better]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/h6865evVc8w/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06292009080714PMWEB26K.htm Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:09:57 AM -0400 Joe We are our own worst enemies
thanks for sharing good news. I am sure there are more good news stories than "what we we thinking" stories".]]>
thanks for sharing good news. I am sure there are more good news stories than "what we we thinking" stories".]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/j1XbKc1QL94/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06292009110957AMWEBKSS.htm Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:16:47 PM -0400 Dave Samples We are our own worst enemies
There were three of us in my party--one of which is currently a waitor at "On The Border". Generous tips were left each time we ate.]]>
There were three of us in my party--one of which is currently a waitor at "On The Border". Generous tips were left each time we ate.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/gJ4Dsefz5YQ/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06272009091647PMWEB3J2.htm Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:00:44 AM -0400 Joe We are our own worst enemies
I also know that the beams in my eyes are as hideous to others as the actions of these few are to me.

Thanks everyone for posting]]>
I also know that the beams in my eyes are as hideous to others as the actions of these few are to me.

Thanks everyone for posting]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/eUiGGVnExZU/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06262009100044AMWEBJFH.htm Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:25:23 AM -0400 Tim Ashley We are our own worst enemies
I get really tired of seeing believers that feel the need to express disdain at things that they sense are unGodly or sinful. I know that we are supposed to hate sin, but we are not the Holy Spirit. Since when has it ever been a Christians job to run around and qualify all things with statements of how wrong or sinful they are. A typical scenario is when a Christian hears about something that has happened, and instead of showing compassion or interest, they have to qualify their statement with numerous adjectives about how God hates sin and how much He must be so terribly disappointed. It's as if they can't even be a human until they throw in some sort of judgmental statement, but all in the name of loving Jesus.

I can't believe the audacity of someone to proclaim that they were "offended" at the shortness of the waitress' skirt. Again, they were "bearing their burden" by having enough "heart" to blast her and then short her tip, thereby showing the hope that is in Christ... but only for those with long skirts. "We'd really like to tip this brazen hussy, but she offended us (Christians, those that should understand how to be more compassionate than anyone else) with her trap-trash skirt. And because she's probably lost and going to hell, we're going to be insensitive to the restaurant's schedule, whine about our service and short her on her tip, because we are the Children of God. God bless you."]]>
I get really tired of seeing believers that feel the need to express disdain at things that they sense are unGodly or sinful. I know that we are supposed to hate sin, but we are not the Holy Spirit. Since when has it ever been a Christians job to run around and qualify all things with statements of how wrong or sinful they are. A typical scenario is when a Christian hears about something that has happened, and instead of showing compassion or interest, they have to qualify their statement with numerous adjectives about how God hates sin and how much He must be so terribly disappointed. It's as if they can't even be a human until they throw in some sort of judgmental statement, but all in the name of loving Jesus.

I can't believe the audacity of someone to proclaim that they were "offended" at the shortness of the waitress' skirt. Again, they were "bearing their burden" by having enough "heart" to blast her and then short her tip, thereby showing the hope that is in Christ... but only for those with long skirts. "We'd really like to tip this brazen hussy, but she offended us (Christians, those that should understand how to be more compassionate than anyone else) with her trap-trash skirt. And because she's probably lost and going to hell, we're going to be insensitive to the restaurant's schedule, whine about our service and short her on her tip, because we are the Children of God. God bless you."]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/c4mMiUQbb5U/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06262009012523AMWEB8DE.htm Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:13:44 PM -0400 Benjie We are our own worst enemies
I've noticed that Christians in general, evangelicals in particular, and Baptists specifically have a tendency to wear their faith on their sleeve, and then wipe their mouth on it. Regardless of the masses being tainted by the few, we all still suffer.

Perhaps you might repeat this post shortly before the 2010 meeting in Orlando and maybe we can have a better reputation in that city. I can agree that eternal matters are much more important than temporal ones, if we can't be polite and trustworthy in the temporal matters, we'll never get a hearing for the other.

Blessings.]]>
I've noticed that Christians in general, evangelicals in particular, and Baptists specifically have a tendency to wear their faith on their sleeve, and then wipe their mouth on it. Regardless of the masses being tainted by the few, we all still suffer.

Perhaps you might repeat this post shortly before the 2010 meeting in Orlando and maybe we can have a better reputation in that city. I can agree that eternal matters are much more important than temporal ones, if we can't be polite and trustworthy in the temporal matters, we'll never get a hearing for the other.

Blessings.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/AR7I9hd_FpI/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06252009091344PMWEB3G5.htm Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:03:23 PM -0400 cb scott We are our own worst enemies
Larry, don't you think that is also "Well said!"

cb]]>
Larry, don't you think that is also "Well said!"

cb]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/-nBPQy1HetE/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06252009080323PMWEB246.htm Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:08:43 PM -0400 Larry We are our own worst enemies ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/ai5OvGcXRKo/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06252009040843PMWEBRMH.htm Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:58:42 PM -0400 We are our own worst enemies
I know that and for those that did I am grateful. Just like in the first two examples, we are all not guilty, but we all live with the consequences.]]>
I know that and for those that did I am grateful. Just like in the first two examples, we are all not guilty, but we all live with the consequences.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/ObxqSeitBuc/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06252009035842PMWEBRF9.htm Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:56:47 PM -0400 cb scott We are our own worst enemies
SBC folks do not hold the corner on that distinction.

Frankly, some of us may have fed the families of wait staff for the next couple of day with one single tip. And maybe some of us helped wait staff and hotel employees for all eternity.

cb]]>
SBC folks do not hold the corner on that distinction.

Frankly, some of us may have fed the families of wait staff for the next couple of day with one single tip. And maybe some of us helped wait staff and hotel employees for all eternity.

cb]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DespisingNoneComments/~3/hAHQM_xBqgI/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/we-are-our-own-worst-enemies.htm?opendocument&comments#06252009035647PMWEBRE2.htm