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		<description>[...] via: Black Archives forms out of the dust of Grazia Neri | dvafoto [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Fall: 20 Years Later by Anthony Suau: The Historic Photo of the Wall « daniel etter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Suau: The Historic Photo of the Wall « daniel etter</dc:creator>
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		<dc:creator>The Fall: 20 Years Later | dvafoto | The Click</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...]   Today is the 20th Anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. There are a number of great reports on this occasion popping up right now but I wanted to point to two web presentations that I think are worth a look. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   Today is the 20th Anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. There are a number of great reports on this occasion popping up right now but I wanted to point to two web presentations that I think are worth a look. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Fall: 20 Years Later by M. Scott Brauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Scott Brauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beat me to a roundup of pictures like this.  Added a link to &lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/btf/home.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Beyond the Fall&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beat me to a roundup of pictures like this.  Added a link to <a target="_blank" href="http://www.time.com/time/btf/home.html"  rel="nofollow">Beyond the Fall</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Worth a look: A Developing Story by M. Scott Brauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Scott Brauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a bit more clear, Johnny.  Thanks for the clarification.  The spirit of Creative Commons is a good one, but I can't see the bridge between here and there as a means of funding photography.  Anything that allows for a more free distribution of information (visual or otherwise) in the field, to those receiving development aid, is an admirable goal.

My biggest worry with Creative Commons is that it removes compensation to the creator without affecting anyone else.  Take that debacle a while back when a New York Times blogger suggested flickr was full of free art that anyone can download, print, and hang on a wall to decorate one's house.  Flickr gets paid (for hosting or advertising), the paper maker gets paid, the frame maker gets paid, etc., but Creative Commons has made it so the photographer doesn't get any compensation.  

As regards NGOs, I'm particularly suspicious of NGOs full of paid staff with a multinational marketing effort looking for CC-licensed or donated photography.  

Keep doing what you're doing with A Developing Story, though.  Definitely love what you've got started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a bit more clear, Johnny.  Thanks for the clarification.  The spirit of Creative Commons is a good one, but I can&#8217;t see the bridge between here and there as a means of funding photography.  Anything that allows for a more free distribution of information (visual or otherwise) in the field, to those receiving development aid, is an admirable goal.</p>
<p>My biggest worry with Creative Commons is that it removes compensation to the creator without affecting anyone else.  Take that debacle a while back when a New York Times blogger suggested flickr was full of free art that anyone can download, print, and hang on a wall to decorate one&#8217;s house.  Flickr gets paid (for hosting or advertising), the paper maker gets paid, the frame maker gets paid, etc., but Creative Commons has made it so the photographer doesn&#8217;t get any compensation.  </p>
<p>As regards NGOs, I&#8217;m particularly suspicious of NGOs full of paid staff with a multinational marketing effort looking for CC-licensed or donated photography.  </p>
<p>Keep doing what you&#8217;re doing with A Developing Story, though.  Definitely love what you&#8217;ve got started.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Worth a look: Consequences by Noor by M. Scott Brauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Scott Brauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification.  I've updated the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification.  I&#8217;ve updated the post.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Nina Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Production funds for the Consequences by NOOR project was provided by Nikon.  None of the photographers were working on behalf of any NGO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Production funds for the Consequences by NOOR project was provided by Nikon.  None of the photographers were working on behalf of any NGO.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Worth a look: A Developing Story by johnny</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

Thanks for posting about A Developing Story. I’m one of the cofounders of the site (I built and designed the site). When we talk about the use of Creative Commons we’re really talking about work that’s used ‘in the field’ (not a good term, but we couldn’t find a better one), i.e. health campaigns, and the like, not the externally facing awareness raising material we currently aggregate on the site.

In addition we support the use of more content in development work which we believe is a more effective way at reaching audiences than the old advertising model.

But thanks for the feedback, I think we need to take a look at how we explain this a bit more cogently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>Thanks for posting about A Developing Story. I’m one of the cofounders of the site (I built and designed the site). When we talk about the use of Creative Commons we’re really talking about work that’s used ‘in the field’ (not a good term, but we couldn’t find a better one), i.e. health campaigns, and the like, not the externally facing awareness raising material we currently aggregate on the site.</p>
<p>In addition we support the use of more content in development work which we believe is a more effective way at reaching audiences than the old advertising model.</p>
<p>But thanks for the feedback, I think we need to take a look at how we explain this a bit more cogently.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Worth a look: Consequences by Noor by M. Scott Brauer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right, Noah.  As I mentioned above, objectivity in journalism is an impossible argument.  But, I think there's a middle ground between every photograph advocating some cause  and photographs that strive toward the ideals of journalism.  And while I agree that media consumers are smart enough to sniff out propaganda, I hope for a future where propagandistic photojournalism isn't the only option.  The best way to do this, that I see, is to maintain editorial independence in shooting a story funded by an NGO, for instance, as seems to be the case here or with the Magnum Georgia piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Noah.  As I mentioned above, objectivity in journalism is an impossible argument.  But, I think there&#8217;s a middle ground between every photograph advocating some cause  and photographs that strive toward the ideals of journalism.  And while I agree that media consumers are smart enough to sniff out propaganda, I hope for a future where propagandistic photojournalism isn&#8217;t the only option.  The best way to do this, that I see, is to maintain editorial independence in shooting a story funded by an NGO, for instance, as seems to be the case here or with the Magnum Georgia piece.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Worth a look: Consequences by Noor by Noah D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel compelled to comment on the issue of impartialty on the part of photojournalism. When I was actively involved in photojournalism I felt uncomfortable with the notion of the unbiased communicator but now that I've become more distanced from the industry, I realize how unrealistic it is. I think powerful pictures inherently
come from a strong perspective and it's silly to pretend that we are all these truth telling robots. The honest thing to
do would be to acknowledge our bias and perspective up front. I think there is a very good reason that the traditional photojournalism model is breaking down. It just doesn't work anymore and all too often reaches the point of self parody.in regards to working for NGOs it seems counter productive to strive for editorial independence. I think most media consumers these days are smart enough to sniff out propganda and it's not worth it to pretend that the camera never lies. Ultimately what we should all be aiming to do is to tell compelling stories regardless of the purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel compelled to comment on the issue of impartialty on the part of photojournalism. When I was actively involved in photojournalism I felt uncomfortable with the notion of the unbiased communicator but now that I&#8217;ve become more distanced from the industry, I realize how unrealistic it is. I think powerful pictures inherently<br />
come from a strong perspective and it&#8217;s silly to pretend that we are all these truth telling robots. The honest thing to<br />
do would be to acknowledge our bias and perspective up front. I think there is a very good reason that the traditional photojournalism model is breaking down. It just doesn&#8217;t work anymore and all too often reaches the point of self parody.in regards to working for NGOs it seems counter productive to strive for editorial independence. I think most media consumers these days are smart enough to sniff out propganda and it&#8217;s not worth it to pretend that the camera never lies. Ultimately what we should all be aiming to do is to tell compelling stories regardless of the purpose.</p>
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