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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sustainability-you-can-feel-300x200.jpg" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Two repurposed concrete grain silos in Copenhagen converted into modern office space, an example of the city&#039;s adaptive reuse of old industrial buildings." style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" fetchpriority="high" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sustainability-you-can-feel-300x200.jpg 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sustainability-you-can-feel-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sustainability-you-can-feel-150x100.jpg 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sustainability-you-can-feel-768x512.jpg 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sustainability-you-can-feel.jpg 1536w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>If you want to understand why Copenhagen is so often called one of the most sustainable cities in the world, you have to look past the slogans and into the showers, the warehouses, and the old shipyards. At one hotel, every room has a futuristic shower built on water-recycling technology first developed for a Mars mission, regulated by a Nest-like dial at waist level. Across town, a small urban warehouse grows tens of thousands of kilos of gourmet mushrooms on a fraction of the water that traditional farming demands, feeding some of the city's best restaurants. In a former port district, architects are deliberately shrinking apartments and reusing ammunition stores and grain silos rather than tearing them down. Each project sounds like a novelty on its own. But together they hint at a single Nordic idea about how a city, and the people who visit it, might choose to live with less.]]></description>
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    <li>Copenhagen is often called one of the most sustainable cities in the world, and a handful of architects, hoteliers, and farmers are quietly showing what that looks like up close.</li>
    <li>Hotel showers built on technology developed for a Mars mission. An urban warehouse growing tens of thousands of kilos of mushrooms on next to no water. A shipyard reborn as a cultural center.</li>
    <li>Behind the novelties sits a single Nordic idea about doing more with less, from 300-square-foot apartments to shared third spaces, and a question worth carrying into your own next trip: what would it feel like to travel somewhere built this way?</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">If you want to know what makes Copenhagen one of the most sustainable cities in the world, if not the most sustainable, you need to talk to Peter Bur Andersen.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He&#8217;s an architect with BRIQ Architects in Nordhavn, a former port area being transformed into a mixed-use residential district in the Danish capital.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Copenhagen is trying to avoid the kind of urban sprawl that consumes valuable resources and land. Andersen&#8217;s solution is to go in the <em>other </em>direction: Create smaller, efficient shared spaces on repurposed land. For example, a refurbished munitions storage area that&#8217;s a café, a hotel reception and retail space.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Do more with less, in other words.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;It&#8217;s a crazy idea,&#8221; he says. &#8220;But it works.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Anderson is at the vanguard of new thinking when it comes to sustainability and its intersection with tourism. It includes forward-looking hotels that use innovative water recycling systems for their showers, a novel way to create sustainable food in a mushroom farm, urban gardens, and a new way to see architecture.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>



<h2 id="h-copenhagen-s-martian-showers" class="wp-block-heading">Copenhagen&#8217;s Martian showers</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The city&#8217;s commitment to efficiency extends directly into the hospitality sector. When you check into the <a href="https://guldsmedenhotels.com/bryggen-guldsmeden/">Bryggen Guldsmeden hotel</a>, you&#8217;ll find a futuristic shower in your room. It&#8217;s hardly the only sustainable thing there. The property is known for its organic food and <a href="https://www.elliott.org/destinations/germanys-green-vacations-how-berlin-is-making-tourism-more-sustainable/">the extremes to which it goes to eliminate waste</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">One of the most radical steps toward resource efficiency is the use of the Orbital Systems showers in all 214 rooms. This system uses highly advanced recycling technology originally developed for the Mars mission by NASA. It&#8217;s a closed-loop system that draws a small amount of water (usually less than a gallon, depending on the length of the shower), cleans it, recycles it and returns it through the showerhead. The system reduces water consumption between 60 and 90 percent.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Orbital showers look like regular showers, except that you regulate the temperature and flow with a Nest-like device at waist level. Other than that, it works exactly like a regular shower, but also monitors the amount of water you use.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The system is thoughtfully designed so that you can push the control panel to pause the shower and lather up, then push it again to restart the water.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Guldsmeden&#8217;s properties have always been at the forefront of sustainability, but the Martian showers give this property a big sustainability edge. It&#8217;s thought to be the only hotel in the world with the technology.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Conserving water is a big theme in Copenhagen, which predicts an annual water shortage of 12 billion liters by 2040.</p>



<h2 id="h-nothing-goes-to-waste-at-the-funga-farm" class="wp-block-heading">Nothing goes to waste at the Funga Farm</h2>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>Thomas Kyle Cometta, founder of the Funga Farm, inspects an oyster mushroom. Photo by Aren Elliott.</em></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The <a href="https://www.fungafarm.com/">Funga Farm</a> is an urban mycology lab trying to prove that food production can be thousands of times more efficient than traditional agriculture. The farm specializes in gourmet and medicinal fungi, such as oyster, lion&#8217;s mane, and native Danish coral tooth mushrooms.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But it&#8217;s the farm’s extreme sustainability metrics that are remarkable. The farm achieves annual yields of 50,000 to 75,000 kilos of mushrooms from a small urban warehouse. And it does so while using very little water. The mushrooms consume 2 liters of water per kilo of mushrooms, making it vastly superior to hydroponics and thousands of times more efficient than livestock.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Growing mushrooms has other benefits. They&#8217;re grown on agricultural byproducts that would otherwise be waste, primarily wheat bran from local milling and sawdust from lumber cutting.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Almost nothing goes to waste,&#8221; says Thomas Kyle Cometta, the farm&#8217;s founder.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Indeed, the spent substrate, which still contains nutrient-rich mycelium (the &#8220;original and best fertilizer,&#8221; he says), gets sent to the next-door <a href="https://www.visitcopenhagen.com/copenhagen/planning/oens-have-gdk1144910">Øens Have</a> urban garden and used as compost.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Funga Farm&#8217;s crops, meanwhile, end up in some of Copenhagen&#8217;s best restaurants, including ARK, a famous vegan restaurant that grills and serves Cometta&#8217;s oyster mushrooms as a tasty entree.</p>



<h2 id="h-recycling-as-a-cultural-practice" class="wp-block-heading">Recycling as a cultural practice</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img decoding="async" width="1200" height="800" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54825972374_cf2c4a0097_o-1200x800.jpg" alt="Front of the Culture Yard building in Helsingør. " class="wp-image-152389" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54825972374_cf2c4a0097_o-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54825972374_cf2c4a0097_o-300x200.jpg 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54825972374_cf2c4a0097_o-150x100.jpg 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54825972374_cf2c4a0097_o-768x512.jpg 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54825972374_cf2c4a0097_o-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54825972374_cf2c4a0097_o-2048x1365.jpg 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>Front of the Culture Yard building in Helsingør. (Photo by Aren Elliott</em>.)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The philosophy of sustainable reuse and resource management extends to public institutions beyond Copenhagen’s central limits.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In Helsingør, the <a href="https://kuto.dk/english/">Culture Yard</a> (Kulturværftet) is trying to show that industrial structures can be sustainably repurposed. The complex, located near Kronborg Castle, has been converted from a massive former shipyard that closed in 1982.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;The project focused on reusing the existing buildings rather than tearing everything down,&#8221; says spokeswoman Anne Borg.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The center, which receives approximately 550,000 visitors annually, operates under rigorous ethical mandates:</p>



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<li><strong>Green operations. </strong>The facility is replacing all conventional lighting with LEDs to reduce its energy costs and carbon footprint.<br></li>



<li><strong>Transportation.</strong> The surrounding infrastructure encourages public transport, using electric ferries that recharge with batteries on the roof. Staff are required to use trains or carpool for any professional travel under 10 hours or 1,000 kilometers.<br></li>



<li><strong>Sourcing ethics.</strong> The in-house restaurant maintains a policy against air-shipped ingredients, refusing to serve items like kiwis or bananas. It also declines to work with suppliers that can&#8217;t meet their sustainability criteria, prioritizing environmental policy over price.</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Culture Yard, like many Copenhagen sustainability leaders, avoids greenwashing and marketing hyperbole. Instead, &#8220;we want to inspire, not lecture&#8221; people toward responsible citizenship and slow living, says Borg.</p>



<h2 id="h-less-is-more-in-nordhavn" class="wp-block-heading">Less is more in Nordhavn</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img decoding="async" width="1200" height="800" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54833793999_26bc0a439e_o-1200x800.jpg" alt="Peter Bur Andersen at a construction site in Nordhavn." class="wp-image-152390" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54833793999_26bc0a439e_o-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54833793999_26bc0a439e_o-300x200.jpg 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54833793999_26bc0a439e_o-150x100.jpg 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54833793999_26bc0a439e_o-768x512.jpg 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54833793999_26bc0a439e_o-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54833793999_26bc0a439e_o-2048x1365.jpg 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>Peter Bur Andersen at a construction site in Nordhavn. (Photo by Aren Elliott.)</em><br></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Back in Nordhavn, Andersen is explaining the architectural philosophy driving the development of the port. His firm is trying to reverse the mid-20th-century trend of pushing residents into the suburbs, a move that was a profoundly unsustainable move.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Copenhagen is facing a severe housing shortage, lacking approximately 100,000 apartments. To address this demand sustainably, architects are fighting to drastically reduce the average home sizet from 600 square feet to about 300 square feet.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The key to selling residents on smaller living is the &#8220;third space&#8221;, public squares, cafés, and communal areas, designed to be extensions of homes.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This creates an overlap economy that maximizes resource use 24/7. Here&#8217;s how:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Architectural reuse</strong>: Instead of demolition, existing industrial buildings like old silos and ammunition storage are reused to preserve the area&#8217;s &#8220;soul and identity,&#8221; says Andersen. Materials removed during essential transformation, such as bricks, are repurposed elsewhere in the development.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Mixed functionality</strong>: Retail space, offices, and residential areas are layered. One building, for instance, houses a furniture brand showroom, and the reception for The Audo, a boutique hotel. There are meeting spaces, and occasionally the venue hosts concerts or poetry readings.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Utility as community</strong>: Repurposing extends even to typically ugly, monofunctional structures. For example, a multistory parking structure is topped with a large recreational area that includes a supermarket, a recycling station, and a CrossFit center on the roof.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The concept isn&#8217;t perfect. Andersen notes that while this level of mixed use is essential for sustainability, it is constantly challenged by outdated legislation that often forbids such mixing. And there are sometimes conflicts between tenants, but Andersen says that&#8217;s to be expected.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Wherever there are people, there&#8217;s conflict,&#8221; he laughs.</p>



<h2 id="h-copenhagen-s-blueprint-for-sustainable-tourism" class="wp-block-heading">Copenhagen&#8217;s blueprint for sustainable tourism</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Across Copenhagen, a consistent blueprint emerges: Sustainability is achieved not through technology alone, but through social engineering that makes collective action the most sensible choice.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">How does that translate to the visitor experience? If you&#8217;re a guest at The Audo or the Bryggen Guldsmeden, you&#8217;ll see it in the shower or the lobby. If you&#8217;re dining at a restaurant like ARK, you&#8217;ll taste it. But most of all you get the sense that Copenhagen wants you to <em>feel </em>its sustainability. It&#8217;s that Nordic sensibility that says yes, you <em>can</em> share a space, you can grow kale in an urban garden, you can get across town in a bus or metro.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Whether it is minimizing housing footprints in Nordhavn to cope with a shortage, growing rare native fungi with radical water efficiency, or recycling buildings for a cultural center, the Danish model suggests that when a community chooses sustainability as a core value, it can achieve a lot. You can even become one of the most sustainable destinations in the world.</p>



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    <li>Would you give up square footage in your room or rental for better shared spaces, the way Copenhagen asks its residents to?</li>
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  <h2 id="faq-heading">What you need to know about sustainable tourism in Copenhagen</h2>
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  <details class="faq-item"><summary>What makes Copenhagen a leader in sustainable tourism?</summary>
    <div class="faq-answer"><p>The city pursues efficiency through design rather than technology alone, repurposing land and buildings, shrinking footprints, and making shared public space central. The aim is to make the collective, low-impact choice the most convenient one for residents and visitors alike.</p></div></details>

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    <div class="faq-answer"><p>The Bryggen Guldsmeden hotel uses Orbital Systems showers in all 214 rooms. The closed-loop system, built on recycling technology developed for a Mars mission, draws a small amount of water, cleans it, and recirculates it, cutting water use by an estimated 60 to 90 percent.</p></div></details>

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    <div class="faq-answer"><p>The Funga Farm grows gourmet and medicinal fungi in a small urban warehouse using about 2 liters of water per kilo of mushrooms. That is far more efficient than hydroponics or livestock, and the mushrooms are grown on agricultural byproducts like wheat bran and sawdust that would otherwise be waste.</p></div></details>

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    <div class="faq-answer"><p>The Culture Yard, or Kulturvaerftet, is a former shipyard near Kronborg Castle that was converted into a cultural center rather than demolished. It draws around 550,000 visitors a year and runs on sustainability mandates covering energy, transport, and food sourcing.</p></div></details>

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    <div class="faq-answer"><p>The city faces a shortage of roughly 100,000 apartments, and architects are working to shrink the average home from about 600 square feet toward 300. The trade-off is the third space, with public squares, cafes, and communal areas designed to act as extensions of people&#8217;s homes.</p></div></details>

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		<title>I returned $3,990 in designer dresses — then my refund vanished</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Elliott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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    <li>Debbie Rivet ordered the same evening gown from London designer Safiyaa in two sizes, a total of $3,990, planning to keep the one that fit and return the other.</li>

    <li>The fitted style was wrong for her occasion, so she returned both under the policy in effect at purchase. She has FedEx receipts proving delivery, but the refund never came and the company stopped answering emails and calls.</li>

    <li>Her credit card dispute was reversed because too much time had passed, which points to a hard rule every shopper should know: the law gives you a limited window to dispute a charge, and waiting on a silent company can quietly close it.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><em>Debbie Rivet buys two made-to-order evening gowns from London designer Safiyaa, returns them both according to company policy, then watches her refund disappear into an 8-month black hole of ignored emails and disconnected phone calls. Can anyone get Safiyaa to answer?</em></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I placed two orders with Safiyaa, a high-end London designer of evening gowns, earlier this year. I ordered the same dress — the Serendipity Pale Blue Long Dress — in two sizes to see which fit better. Each dress cost $1,995, for a total of $3,990.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When the dresses arrived, I realized the fitted style just wasn&#8217;t right for the occasion. I immediately requested a return authorization by emailing the company at the address listed on the company&#8217;s website. I got no response. I tried multiple times. I also emailed another address. Nothing.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Finally, out of desperation, I reached out via Instagram. Someone from Safiyaa responded and provided a return authorization. I shipped both dresses back via FedEx and have the tracking receipts proving delivery.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Then I waited for my refund. And waited.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I sent multiple follow-up emails requesting my refund. No response. I tried calling, but the phone line goes straight to voicemail and disconnects before I can leave a message.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I filed a credit card dispute with Capital One. They initially issued a refund, but later reversed it, saying too much time had passed. I had been trying to give Safiyaa time to respond, and that patience cost me my chargeback rights.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s been 8 months since I returned the dresses. I see Safiyaa advertisements daily on Facebook and Instagram, and I&#8217;ve noticed other customers commenting about similar customer service problems. I have FedEx receipts, email records, Instagram screenshots — a complete paper trail. But Safiyaa won&#8217;t respond to any form of contact. Can you help me get my $3,990 refund? — <strong>Debbie Rivet</strong>, <em>Rosedale, La.</em></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Safiyaa should have processed your refund immediately after receiving the returned dresses.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to the company&#8217;s own explanation, you purchased the dresses under a return policy that allowed refunds. That policy was in effect when you made your purchase. The company confirmed both garments were received at its facility. At that point, Safiyaa had a legal and ethical obligation to issue your refund.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Made-to-order luxury goods come with special risks. These aren&#8217;t items sitting on a shelf.&nbsp; They&#8217;re custom-crafted for you. That&#8217;s beautiful from a craftsmanship standpoint, but it often means strict return policies or no returns at all.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s what you could have done differently. First, excellent work keeping that paper trail! You documented every email, every Instagram message, every phone call attempt. That&#8217;s exactly what smart consumers need to do.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">However, there&#8217;s one critical mistake: You let the window for your Capital One dispute close. Under the Fair Credit Billing Act, you must notify your credit card issuer in writing about a dispute within 60 days. Giving Safiyaa time meant you forfeited your right to a credit card chargeback.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The lesson? When a company is ghosting you and you have a valid chargeback, don&#8217;t wait. Push it through.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You can also escalate disputes by contacting executive customer service. I publish executive contacts for thousands of companies on my consumer advocacy site at Elliott.org. Unfortunately, Safiyaa wasn&#8217;t in my database before your case — this London-based made-to-order fashion house wasn&#8217;t even on my radar.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">My advocacy team contacted Safiyaa on your behalf.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We can now confirm that both garments were received at our facility and that a full refund has been issued to Ms. Rivet&#8217;s original payment method,&#8221; a representative told us. &#8220;We sincerely regret the delay.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A company representative explained it recently overhauled its returns process after experiencing problems with worn garments being returned. While protecting the made-to-order business model is understandable, that&#8217;s no excuse for ignoring a customer with a legitimate return for eight months.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Safiyaa also noted it now operates under a no-refunds model in the U.S., in line with industry standards for made-to-order fashion. But the company honored the policy that was in place when you made your purchase — which is exactly what it should have done.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Before ordering custom-made clothing, it&#8217;s important to understand exactly what you&#8217;re agreeing to. And if something goes wrong, document everything and don&#8217;t let your credit card protection expire while waiting for a company that&#8217;s clearly not responding.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Bottom line: Safiyaa issued your full $3,990 refund.&nbsp;</p>



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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Alpine-Adventures-300x200.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Illustration of a worried couple beside a yellow rental car with its hood up on a snowy Alpine road, the man on his phone for roadside help as a man in lederhosen inspects the dead engine." style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Alpine-Adventures-300x200.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Alpine-Adventures-1200x800.png 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Alpine-Adventures-150x100.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Alpine-Adventures-768x512.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Alpine-Adventures.png 1248w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>Kjell-Erik Berggren rented a car from Alamo at Geneva Airport for a six-day trip through Switzerland, and it worked perfectly until the last morning. Staying in a mountain village at 1,500 meters, he and his group woke to a cold, frosty morning and a car that was completely dead: no lights, no starter, nothing. Roadside assistance told them to leave the vehicle and find another way to the airport, which they did at considerable expense. Then, two months later, Alamo charged more than $1,000 to his credit card with no prior agreement or warning, on two invoices showing different totals that did not even match what was charged. The company pointed to a roadside protection product he had declined and an insurance deductible he had chosen. But there is a principle worth knowing before you accept a charge like this: rental companies are typically responsible for mechanical and electrical breakdowns that are not caused by customer negligence or misuse, and a battery that dies on a cold morning after five days of normal use points to a defect in the vehicle, not a mistake by the driver.]]></description>
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        <li>Kjell-Erik Berggren rented a car from Alamo in Geneva for a six-day Swiss trip. It ran fine until the last frosty morning in the Alps, when it would not start at all.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><em>Kjell-Erik Berggren rents a car from Alamo in Geneva for a Swiss vacation, but on the final morning in the Alps, the vehicle won&#8217;t start. He calls roadside assistance and thinks the matter is settled — until Alamo charges more than $1,000 to his credit card two months later without warning. Should he have to pay for a battery that failed?</em></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I rented a car from Alamo at Geneva Airport in April for a six-day trip through Switzerland. The car worked perfectly for the entire rental period until the last morning. We were staying in Champex-Lac in Valais, a mountain village at 1,500 meters elevation, and woke up to a cold, frosty morning. We needed to return the car and catch our flight from Geneva.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When we tried to start the car, nothing happened. No lights. No starter. Nothing. Four people tried to get it going, but the car was completely dead. We called Alamo&#8217;s emergency number, and they told us to leave the car where it was since we didn&#8217;t have time to wait for a technician. Three of us had flights to catch that morning, so we arranged alternate transportation to the airport at considerable expense.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Two months later, Alamo charged roughly $1,000 to my credit card without any prior agreement or warning. What&#8217;s worse, they sent me two different invoices with completely different totals: one for 395 Swiss francs and another for 489 Swiss francs. Neither amount corresponds to what they actually charged to my account.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I later learned that the garage checked the battery and had to replace it entirely. It wasn&#8217;t simply discharged from negligence — it needed full replacement because it was defective and couldn&#8217;t handle cold weather. When you rent a car, you expect it to function properly for the duration of the rental. This battery was clearly inadequate from the start.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I&#8217;ve read that rental companies don&#8217;t charge customers for mechanical or electrical breakdowns unless the breakdown is the customer&#8217;s fault. We didn&#8217;t leave lights on or doors open. The car simply wouldn&#8217;t start on a cold morning. How is that our responsibility?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When I contacted Alamo&#8217;s customer service in Switzerland, they refused to refund the charge. They said I should have purchased their Roadside Assistance Protection, which would have covered the towing costs. They also claimed that because I selected an insurance policy with a 1,500 franc deductible instead of the zero-deductible option, I was responsible for all these charges.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This feels completely wrong. We suffered a loss by not being able to use the rental car we paid for. Now they want us to pay an additional $1,000 for their faulty equipment. Can you help? This seems like Alamo is taking advantage of foreign customers who have difficulty defending themselves outside Switzerland. — <strong>Kjell-Erik Berggren</strong>,<em> Oslo</em></p>



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      &#8220;To Alamo&#8217;s credit, the company recognized this wasn&#8217;t a clear-cut case and it agreed to cover the cost of the battery as a goodwill gesture.&#8221; Alamo deserves no &#8220;credit.&#8221; It was a clear-cut case: the car had a defective battery and Alamo should have covered the cost and not put the customer through an ordeal.
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      Alamo reported that no prior customer reported problems with the battery. So what? Apparently everyone but this rental car company understands that battery failures can come on suddenly. Alamo used that excuse to try to shift the blame to its current customer and to therefore categorize its assumption of the cost as a &#8220;goodwill gesture.&#8221; In fact, Alamo demonstrated miserable customer service and did not exhibit any good will.
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You&#8217;re right, if the battery was defective, Alamo should never have charged you for it. Rental companies are typically responsible for mechanical breakdowns that aren&#8217;t caused by customer negligence or misuse. A battery that dies on a cold morning after functioning normally for five days suggests a pre-existing problem with the vehicle, not customer fault.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s what you should have done. First, document everything immediately. Take photos of the car, the dashboard, the surroundings — <em>everything</em>. Get the names of everyone who tried to help start the vehicle. Create a written timeline of events while the details are fresh.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">As soon as you see an unexpected credit card charge, contact the company in writing. Email is fine, but keep copies of everything.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And third, appeal to a higher authority. When a customer service representative closes your case, escalate to the executive contacts. I publish <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/alamo/.">a list of Alamo&#8217;s contacts</a> on Elliott.org for exactly this purpose. A brief, polite email to a senior executive often produces better results than multiple exchanges with frontline customer service.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After I contacted Alamo on your behalf, the company conducted a thorough review of the case.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;After checking all previous rentals, we confirmed that no prior customer reported any issues or faults with this vehicle or its battery,&#8221; a representative told me.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The company suggested that repeated start attempts after the initial failure may have permanently damaged the battery. But what were you supposed to do? Not try to start the car? Leave for the airport on foot? The logic doesn&#8217;t work. When a rental car won&#8217;t start, most people will naturally try multiple times before calling for help. That&#8217;s not negligence. It&#8217;s common sense.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">To Alamo&#8217;s credit, the company recognized this wasn&#8217;t a clear-cut case and it agreed to cover the cost of the battery as a goodwill gesture.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Your case highlights an important issue with rental car breakdowns. Companies often have policies that seem reasonable on paper but become problematic in real-world situations. The lesson? Always purchase travel insurance that covers rental car mishaps, document everything obsessively, and dispute any suspicious charges to your credit card immediately.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Sometimes a dead battery is just a dead battery — and the car rental company should pick up the tab.</p>



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  <h2 id="faq-heading">What you need to know about rental car breakdown charges</h2>
  <p class="faq-intro">When a rental car breaks down through no fault of yours, the bill can still land on your card months later. Here is how to know what you owe and how to fight what you do not.</p>

  <details class="faq-item"><summary>Am I responsible when a rental car breaks down mechanically?</summary>
    <div class="faq-answer"><p>Usually not. Rental companies are typically responsible for mechanical and electrical breakdowns that are not caused by customer negligence or misuse. A car that works for days and then fails on a cold morning points to a pre-existing problem with the vehicle rather than customer fault.</p></div></details>

  <details class="faq-item"><summary>Can a rental company charge my card months after I return the car?</summary>
    <div class="faq-answer"><p>Companies sometimes do post charges weeks or months later, but a charge with no prior agreement or warning is worth challenging immediately. Contact the company in writing as soon as you see it, and dispute it with your card issuer if the company cannot justify the amount.</p></div></details>

  <details class="faq-item"><summary>What should I do the moment a rental car will not start?</summary>
    <div class="faq-answer"><p>Document everything before you leave. Photograph the car, the dashboard, and the surroundings, note the names of anyone who tried to help, and call the company&#8217;s roadside number. A written timeline made while the details are fresh becomes critical evidence if a charge appears later.</p></div></details>

  <details class="faq-item"><summary>Does declining roadside protection make me liable for a breakdown?</summary>
    <div class="faq-answer"><p>Not for a defect. A company may argue that an add-on like roadside protection would have covered towing, but optional protection products do not transfer responsibility for a faulty vehicle onto you. A defective part that fails on its own is generally the company&#8217;s cost, not yours.</p></div></details>

  <details class="faq-item"><summary>What if the rental company sends invoices that do not match the charge?</summary>
    <div class="faq-answer"><p>Treat mismatched paperwork as a red flag and a strong basis for a dispute. If the invoices show different totals and neither matches what hit your card, ask in writing for a single itemized invoice that reconciles to the exact amount charged before you pay anything.</p></div></details>

  <details class="faq-item"><summary>Who do I contact when customer service refuses to refund me?</summary>
    <div class="faq-answer"><p>Escalate past the front line. A short, polite email to a senior executive often gets a better result than repeated exchanges with customer service. Our <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/" rel="noopener">executive contact database</a> can help you find the right person to reach.</p></div></details>

  <details class="faq-item"><summary>How can I protect myself against rental car charges abroad?</summary>
    <div class="faq-answer"><p>Buy travel insurance that covers rental mishaps, document the car&#8217;s condition obsessively at pickup and return, and dispute any suspicious charge with your card issuer right away. If you hit a wall, here is <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/how-consumer-complaints-work-guide/" rel="noopener">how the consumer complaint process works</a>.</p></div></details>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/hotel-refund-problem-300x200.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Stylized illustration of a distressed traveler clutching his chest in front of a palm-lined hospital as medical staff wheel a patient on a gurney toward the entrance, evoking a vacation cut short by a family emergency." style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/hotel-refund-problem-300x200.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/hotel-refund-problem-1200x800.png 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/hotel-refund-problem-150x100.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/hotel-refund-problem-768x512.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/hotel-refund-problem.png 1248w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>When John Moss's stepfather was rushed to the hospital, he knew his Florida vacation was over before it started. He contacted Traveluro, the site where he had booked a nonrefundable $615 stay at the Hilton Melbourne Beach, and sent hospital records proving the family emergency. The hotel understood and agreed to cancel without penalty, releasing the money back to the booking site. All Traveluro had to do was pass it along. Instead, weeks of silence followed, until Moss filed a dispute with his credit card company and Traveluro suddenly made him an offer: drop the dispute, and we will send your refund. Here is what every cardholder should understand before saying yes. A credit card dispute freezes the transaction while your issuer investigates, which means the merchant cannot touch the money until the matter is resolved. That is real, tangible leverage, and a company asking you to give it up in exchange for a promise is asking you to trade the one protection the law puts on your side.]]></description>
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        <li>A family emergency forced John Moss to cancel a nonrefundable $615 hotel stay he had booked through Traveluro. He sent hospital records to prove it.</li>
        <li>The hotel agreed to cancel without penalty and released the money to the booking site. Then the booking site offered Moss a deal: drop your credit card dispute, and we will send your refund.</li>
        <li>He dropped the dispute. That move gave up the one piece of real leverage a cardholder has, and it raises a hard question about whether a company can ask you to surrender it in exchange for a promise.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">When John Moss&#8217;s stepfather was rushed to the hospital, he knew his Florida vacation was over before it started. He contacted Traveluro, the booking site where he&#8217;d reserved his nonrefundable $615 stay at the Hilton Melbourne Beach, and he sent them hospital records proving his family emergency.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The hotel understood. Traveluro? Not so much.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What followed was a months-long game of corporate hot potato that would&#8217;ve been comical if it weren&#8217;t so infuriating.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Hilton agreed to release the funds to the online travel agency. Traveluro promised to process the refund. His credit card company, Citibank, opened a dispute. Then Traveluro made Moss an offer he probably should&#8217;ve refused: Drop the dispute, and we&#8217;ll send your money.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This case raises several important questions about booking through third-party sites:</p>



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<li>What happens when you book through a third-party site and need to cancel?</li>



<li>Can a company ask you to withdraw a credit card dispute?</li>



<li>What are your options when you&#8217;re caught between a booking site, a hotel, and your bank?</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Let&#8217;s take those questions one by one.</p>



<h2 id="h-when-a-beach-vacation-turns-into-a-bureaucratic-nightmare" class="wp-block-heading">When a beach vacation turns into a bureaucratic nightmare</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moss booked his stay at the Hilton Melbourne Beach Oceanfront through Traveluro, one of those third-party booking sites that promise deals too good to pass up. And like many budget-conscious travelers, he thought he&#8217;d found a bargain.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Then his stepfather was hospitalized.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moss called Traveluro to see if he could cancel the nonrefundable hotel stay. A customer service representative named Elyn assured him the company would contact the hotel and sort everything out within 24 to 48 hours.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Days passed. Then weeks.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When Moss followed up almost a month later, he made a stunning discovery: A representative admitted that Traveluro had never actually contacted the hotel.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So Moss did what Traveluro wouldn&#8217;t: He called the Hilton himself. The hotel&#8217;s front office manager, Nichole Kaminski, was willing to help. In fact, she was <em>more</em> than willing.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Your company never attempted to contact us prior to Mr. Moss reaching out to you himself,&#8221; Kaminski wrote to Traveluro in an email. &#8220;He was told by an agent with your company that your company called and we did not answer the phone, we are a 24 hour hotel with an abundance of front desk staff, that would likely never happen unless we closed for a hurricane.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The hotel agreed to cancel the reservation without penalty and send the refund to Traveluro. All Traveluro had to do was pass the money along to Moss.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But apparently, coordination wasn&#8217;t Traveluro&#8217;s thing.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A month later, Kaminski was getting impatient. So was Hilton.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We processed the refund to your virtual credit card a week ago, what is the delay with refunding Mr. Moss&#8217;s credit card?&#8221; a Hilton rep wrote to Traveluro. &#8220;I would think that a week is enough time to take care of our mutual guest.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Still nothing.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Frustrated and running out of patience, Moss did what consumers often do when companies refuse to cooperate: He filed a dispute with Citibank.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s when things got interesting.</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Suddenly, Traveluro was paying attention.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Following your reservation, we would like to update you that we have managed to claim the refund for your reservation from the hotel,&#8221; Traveluro wrote. &#8220;We would be happy to expedite this process for you and issue you a full refund if you are willing to work with us and withdraw the dispute.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In other words, drop your credit card dispute, and we&#8217;ll send your money.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moss, who&#8217;d been fighting for his refund for a month, took the bait. He withdrew the dispute and sent Traveluro the documentation it requested.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It turns out this was one of those &#8220;Throw me the idol, and I&#8217;ll throw you the whip&#8221; situations, to quote <em>Raiders of the Lost Ark</em>. Traveluro walked away.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We would like to inform you that since the payment for your reservation was disputed, the refund process will now be handled directly by your bank,&#8221; a Traveluro representative told him.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Read that again. Traveluro asked Moss to withdraw his dispute, promising a refund in return. Then, once Moss had eliminated his only real leverage, Traveluro told him to go back to his bank.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Seriously?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When Moss protested that this wasn&#8217;t what Traveluro had promised, the response was even more galling.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Please allow some time for the bank to complete its nvestigation and process the refund accordingly. We recommend following up with your bank for any updates regarding the status of the refund,&#8221; it repeated.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But here&#8217;s the problem: Moss no longer had a dispute to investigate. He&#8217;d closed it at Traveluro&#8217;s request. And Citibank told him exactly what you&#8217;d expect a bank to tell someone who voluntarily withdrew a dispute: Sorry, we can&#8217;t help you now.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moss was stuck in customer service purgatory — the special circle of hell reserved for people who&#8217;ve been bounced between companies so many times they&#8217;ve lost track of which one is actually responsible.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But he didn&#8217;t give up. Moss emailed Traveluro again (here are the <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/traveluro-customer-service-contacts/">Traveluro executive contacts</a>), and again Traveluro referred him to his bank. And that&#8217;s when he reached out to <a href="http://elliottadvocacy.org/help">our advocacy team</a>.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-happens-when-you-book-through-a-third-party-site-and-need-to-cancel" class="wp-block-heading">What happens when you book through a third-party site and need to cancel?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Booking through third-party sites like Traveluro, Expedia, Priceline, or Hotels.com can save you money. But here&#8217;s what many travelers don&#8217;t realize until it&#8217;s too late: When you book through a middleman, you&#8217;ve added a layer of complexity to every transaction.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Think of it this way. When you book directly with a hotel, you have one relationship: you and the hotel. If something goes wrong, you know exactly whom to call. But when you book through a third-party site, you&#8217;ve created a triangle: you, the booking site, and the hotel. And each point of that triangle can blame the other two when problems arise.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In Moss&#8217; case, the hotel was ready to cooperate. Hilton processed the refund to Traveluro&#8217;s virtual credit card within a week. But Traveluro controlled the final step — getting that money back to Moss — and that&#8217;s where everything broke down.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Third-party booking sites operate on thin margins. They buy hotel rooms in bulk at discounted rates, then resell them to you at a markup. When a customer cancels, especially with a full refund, it disrupts their business model. The hotel has already released the funds, but the booking site has to process the refund, and every delay is money earning interest in its account, not yours.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Online travel sites also have their refund policies, which they can impose on purchases even when a hotel or airline sends a refund. <a href="https://www.elliott.org/advocacy/i-overpaid-for-my-celebrity-cruise-by-641-why-is-my-travel-advisor-keeping-my-refund/">It happened for this Celebrity Cruises case.</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This is why hotels often encourage you to book directly. When you cut out the middleman, you reduce the runaround. You&#8217;ll talk to someone who actually has the authority to make decisions about your reservation.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But let&#8217;s say you&#8217;ve already booked through a third-party site and you need to cancel. Here&#8217;s what you should do:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Contact the booking site first, in writing.</strong> Email creates a paper trail. Phone calls evaporate into the ether. In your email, explain your situation clearly and attach any supporting documentation — medical records, death certificates, whatever proves your case.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Set a reasonable deadline. Give the company 48 to 72 hours to respond. If it doesn&#8217;t, or if it gives you the runaround, escalate to an executive.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Don&#8217;t play phone tag.</strong> Every time a company asks you to call it, respond in writing instead. Say something like, &#8220;I&#8217;d prefer to keep all communication in writing. Please respond to my email.&#8221; This prevents the &#8220;he said, she said&#8221; problem that companies exploit.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>If the booking site won&#8217;t cooperate, contact the hotel directly.</strong> As Moss discovered, hotels often have more flexibility and better customer service than the booking sites. Explain that you booked through a third-party site but need to cancel due to an emergency. Some hotels will work with you even though they&#8217;ve already been paid by the booking site.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Document </strong><strong><em>absolutely </em></strong><strong>everything.</strong> Save every email, every chat transcript, every confirmation number. You&#8217;ll need this evidence when — not if — you have to escalate to your credit card company or a consumer advocate.</p>



<h2 id="h-can-a-company-ask-you-to-withdraw-a-credit-card-dispute" class="wp-block-heading">Can a company ask you to withdraw a credit card dispute?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moss&#8217; case is particularly troubling because Traveluro asked him to withdraw his credit card disputes.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Can it do that? Yes.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Can it renege on its promise to refund Moss&#8217; money? Not if we have anything to say about it.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Credit card disputes exist to protect consumers from exactly this kind of situation. When a merchant refuses to refund you for services you didn&#8217;t receive, your card issuer can force the merchant to prove they upheld their end of the deal. It&#8217;s your financial safety net. (<a href="https://www.elliott.org/ultimate-consumer-guides-smart-travelers/the-complete-guide-to-chargebacks-and-winning-a-credit-card-dispute/">Here&#8217;s my guide to credit card disputes.</a>)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Once you&#8217;ve filed a dispute, your card issuer freezes the transaction while it investigates. The merchant can&#8217;t access those funds until the dispute is resolved. This gives you leverage — real, tangible leverage that companies respect because it hits them where it hurts: their bottom line.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When Traveluro asked Moss to withdraw his dispute, the company was asking him to give up his only real leverage. And it sweetened the pot with a promise: Withdraw your dispute, and we&#8217;ll expedite your refund.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This is where consumers need to be extremely careful. Any company that asks you to withdraw a dispute should put that promise in <em>writing</em>, with specific terms: the exact amount of the refund, the timeline for processing it, and the method of payment. If a company won&#8217;t put it in writing, that&#8217;s a red flag.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In Moss&#8217;s case, Traveluro<em> did </em>put something in writing: &#8220;We would be happy to expedite this process for you and issue you a full refund if you are willing to work with us and withdraw the dispute.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moss withdrew the dispute. He sent the documentation. And then Traveluro claimed the refund was now the bank&#8217;s problem.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you ever find yourself in this situation, here&#8217;s my advice: Don&#8217;t withdraw the dispute unless you have ironclad written confirmation that includes specific timelines and consequences if the company doesn&#8217;t deliver.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And even then, think twice. A credit card dispute gives you protection. A company&#8217;s promise gives you nothing but hope.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-are-your-options-when-you-re-caught-between-companies" class="wp-block-heading">What are your options when you&#8217;re caught between companies?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Being caught between two companies may be even worse than having to deal with one nonresponsive company. All the finger-pointing and waiting — it&#8217;s the worst.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That was Moss&#8217;s situation. His hotel said it had refunded Traveluro. Traveluro said the bank should handle it. The bank said it couldn&#8217;t help because Moss had withdrawn the dispute. Everyone pointed at everyone else, and Moss was left holding an empty wallet.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s where documentation becomes your best friend. Moss had a thread of emails proving that Hilton had released the funds, that Traveluro had promised a refund in exchange for withdrawing the dispute, and that Traveluro then reneged on that promise.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When you&#8217;re caught between companies, here&#8217;s your game plan:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Create a timeline. </strong>List every interaction chronologically, with dates, times, names, and what was promised or delivered, just like Moss. This document will be invaluable when you escalate.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Identify the weak link</strong>. In Moss&#8217;s case, it was clearly Traveluro. The hotel had done its part. The bank had done what it could within the rules. Traveluro was the one making promises it didn&#8217;t keep.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Focus your efforts on that weak link.</strong> Stop trying to get help from the companies that have already done their part or exhausted their options. Concentrate on the one that&#8217;s actually responsible.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Escalate your case strategically. </strong>Start with the company&#8217;s customer service, then work your way up to supervisors and managers. Don&#8217;t be afraid to use social media — companies <em>hate </em>public complaints. Contact executive offices using resources like my <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/">executive contact list</a> at <a href="http://elliott.org">elliott.org</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Bring in reinforcements.</strong> Consumer advocates, regulatory agencies, and even your state attorney general&#8217;s office can apply pressure that you can&#8217;t. Companies take these third parties seriously because they represent escalation beyond the individual consumer.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The key is persistence. Companies count on consumers giving up. They know that many people will eventually decide that $615 isn&#8217;t worth months of hassle. But it&#8217;s not just about the money. It&#8217;s about the principle. And it&#8217;s about preventing the same thing from happening to the next person.</p>



<h2 id="h-advocacy-can-make-the-difference" class="wp-block-heading">Advocacy can make the difference</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After months of emails, promises and stonewalling, Moss contacted my advocacy team. We reviewed his documentation and reached out to Traveluro on his behalf.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Then we waited. And waited some more.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Almost a month after our initial contact, Moss checked in with us. We followed up with Traveluro again.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This time, something changed. Maybe it was the visibility that comes with media advocacy. Maybe it was the realization that Moss wasn&#8217;t going away. Or maybe someone at Traveluro finally decided to do the right thing.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Six months after his family emergency forced him to cancel his vacation, Moss finally got his money back.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;It worked!&#8221; he wrote. &#8220;Traveluro finally issued a refund. I have no doubt you and your advocacy group were a major factor in all of this.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Moss&#8217;s persistence paid off. But it shouldn&#8217;t have taken six months, numerous emails, a credit card dispute, and intervention from a consumer advocate to get a refund that both the hotel and the booking site agreed he deserved.</p>



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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sardines-300x200.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Cartoon of smiling sardines packed upright into narrow airplane seats in a tightly spaced cabin, illustrating how shrinking economy legroom crams travelers in like sardines." style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sardines-300x200.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sardines-1200x800.png 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sardines-150x100.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sardines-768x512.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Sardines.png 1248w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>Remember when you could check a bag, choose your seat, and stretch your legs on a flight without paying extra? It is not an urban legend. You used to be able to do all three at no additional charge. A 34-inch seat pitch was once standard in economy class. Today the industry calls that same space premium economy and charges you more for it, while the 30-inch squeeze becomes the new normal. Call it premium creep, the quiet industry-wide pattern where yesterday's basics quietly become today's luxuries, wrapped in marketing language about choice and flexibility. And it is not just airlines: hotels, cruise lines, and even car rental companies have all found ways to strip out what used to be included and sell it back to you. Which raises the question worth sitting with the next time you compare two fares: are you buying an upgrade, or just paying to undo a downgrade the company handed you in the first place?]]></description>
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        <li>Checking a bag, picking a seat, and having room to stretch your legs used to come standard with a plane ticket. Now each one carries its own price tag.</li>
        <li>The industry calls it choice and flexibility, but the pattern is the same across airlines, hotels, cruise lines, and even car rentals: strip out what used to be included, then sell it back as a premium upgrade.</li>
        <li>Economy seat pitch has slipped from around 34 inches in the 1970s to roughly 30 inches today, and the basics keep migrating into paid tiers, which raises a real question about whether you are buying an upgrade or just paying to undo a downgrade.</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Remember when you could check a bag, choose your seat and stretch your legs on a flight without paying extra? It&#8217;s not an urban legend. You used to be able to do all three at no extra charge.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I&#8217;m old enough to recall when a 34-inch seat pitch was standard in economy class. Today, airlines call that same space &#8220;premium economy&#8221; and charge you another $200 for it.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That 30-inch squeeze you&#8217;re sitting in? It&#8217;s the new standard.</p>



<h2 id="h-you-re-a-victim-of-premium-creep" class="wp-block-heading">You&#8217;re a victim of premium creep</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Call it premium creep, the quiet industry-wide racket where yesterday&#8217;s basics become today&#8217;s luxuries. Premium creep is the shrinkflation almost nobody talks about. And you&#8217;re paying a steep price for it.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The travel industry wraps premium creep in marketing language about &#8220;choice&#8221; and &#8220;flexibility.&#8221; But make no mistake: This travel shrinkflation means the exact opposite. You&#8217;re getting less and paying more.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;This trend is not about consumer demand but the demand by companies to maximize their margins through the unbundling of services,&#8221; says Dean Rotchin, the CEO of Blackjet, a private jet company.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And yes, his customers are so disenchanted with the state of modern air travel that they&#8217;ve turned to hiring private jets. If only we could all afford to do that.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;The reason for the higher pricing is not the added value,&#8221; says Jon Morgan, a frequent air traveler who runs a venture capital firm. &#8220;It&#8217;s simply removal of the recently inflicted pain — the pain caused by the company itself.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The travel industry creates the problem, then solves it. Brilliant.</p>



<h2 id="h-here-s-the-playbook" class="wp-block-heading">Here&#8217;s the playbook</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">How did we get here? After airline deregulation and especially following the 2008 financial crisis, airlines discovered they could advertise rock-bottom fares while making up the difference — and then some — through fees. It started with discount carriers charging for anything that wasn&#8217;t nailed down in the cabin, but quickly spread to the legacy airlines.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The result? Airlines generated $148 billion in ancillary revenue worldwide in 2024, a 26 percent increase from the previous year. Fees for baggage, seat selection, early boarding and all those other extras that used to come with your ticket all added up.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">How&#8217;d they do it? They made the basic product so uncomfortable that you&#8217;ll pay to escape it.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Airline seat pitch shrank from an average of roughly 34 inches in the 1970s to around 30 inches today. That&#8217;s four inches of your personal space the industry <em>took</em> from you while you weren&#8217;t looking.</p>



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      The part that everyone overlooks is how cheap flying is today compared to the past. Back around 1990, I flew from Chicago to Denver quite a bit. I remember getting a great deal for $150 round trip (average was around $250 to $300). That was basic coach or whatever it was called, which back then still included decent legroom, a meal, free seat assignment, and free checked bags. It was what premium economy or economy plus is today.
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      $150 from 1990 is $382 today. A quick search shows typical Chicago to Denver round trips right now are around $220 on the big four ($128 on Frontier). Add in the upgrades for extra legroom and a checked bag, and you&#8217;re still below $380. And again, that was the fantastic bargain deal back then. The normal fare of $250 back then equates to $636 today.
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      So yes, the airlines are nickel and diming us, but even with all the fees, airfares are still much cheaper than they used to be.
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Premium is not the new economy,&#8221; says Michal Strahilevitz, director of the Elfenworks Center for Responsible Business at Saint Mary’s College of California. &#8220;It’s a downgrade disguised as an upgrade. Features that were once standard are now removed and sold back to consumers at a premium, creating the illusion of added value where none actually exists.”</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s a sleight of hand, according to experts.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Companies determine what&#8217;s premium by testing what they can remove from the base product without losing significant customers,&#8221; explains Jacob Wedderburn-Day, CEO of Stasher, a luggage storage service. &#8220;They&#8217;re not offering anything new or better. They&#8217;re taking away what used to be standard and charging you for it separately.&#8221;</p>



<h2 id="h-it-s-not-just-airlines" class="wp-block-heading">It&#8217;s not just airlines</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The practice spread. Hotels famously unbundled basics like the use of their gyms, daily newspapers and towels at the pool to create a mandatory &#8220;resort&#8221; fee for their guests. Cruise lines removed access to their best restaurants and offered special packages that include basic necessities like Wi-Fi and soft drinks. Tour operators got in on the action, making most meals and activities optional and charging extra for them.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And they&#8217;re just getting started.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Premium breakfast.</strong> Gabrielle Yap, a culinary entrepreneur who travels constantly, recently stayed at a hotel that advertised &#8220;premium&#8221; breakfast for an extra $25 per day. &#8220;Last year in this city, breakfast was automatically a part of the service,&#8221; she says. &#8220;Now it is paid for if included or bought as a premium item.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Slowing down your &#8220;free&#8221; Wi-Fi.</strong> Rob DelliBovi, founder of RDB Hospitality Group, has noticed that some hotels slow down complimentary Wi-Fi to boost sales of &#8220;premium&#8221; internet. &#8220;I&#8217;ve seen properties make it nearly impossible to stream a movie or even join a video call on the standard connection,&#8221; he says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Cruise food that costs extra.</strong> Mike Jirout, who runs a cruise booking site, analyzed 122 cruise ships and found that specialty restaurants now account for one out of every two dining venues on newer ships. &#8220;It&#8217;s undeniable that cruise lines have been packing their ships with more &#8216;specialty&#8217; restaurants, each requiring an upcharge,&#8221; he says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Even car rental companies are in on it. Want USB ports and built-in navigation? You&#8217;ll need to upgrade to a &#8220;premium&#8221; vehicle.</p>



<h2 id="h-the-psychology-of-the-upcharge" class="wp-block-heading">The psychology of the upcharge</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The genius of premium creep is that it doesn&#8217;t feel like a price increase, but an upgrade.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Basic services are being unbundled and sold back to you,&#8221; says Jason Vaught, a frequent traveler and marketing expert. &#8220;All these extras add on to the price of the ticket far beyond what you first saw.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The industry carefully chose terms like &#8220;premium,&#8221; &#8220;basic&#8221; and &#8220;choice&#8221; after the 2008 financial crisis to reduce resistance.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But seasoned travelers are on to them. Stefany Ceccato, a travel advisor with DMC Travel Tailor, admits she now avoids basic economy altogether on long flights.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;For my clients, some feel the same,&#8221; she adds. &#8220;They will fly less if they have to, but fly business or premium economy to get the comfort on long flights.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">See what happened there? Airlines didn&#8217;t add value. They removed so much that passengers either pay more — or fly less.</p>



<h2 id="h-can-you-still-find-real-value" class="wp-block-heading">Can you still find real value?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yes, but it takes work. And that&#8217;s another hidden cost — your time.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You can find real value by flying during off-peak days, such as mid-week. Wait for an opening and then bid for an upgrade instead of forking over your hard-earned money for a better seat.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Some international carriers — Emirates, Singapore Airlines, ANA — still provide actual service in economy. Reputation, not additional charges, forms the basis of their business.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Delbert Lee, a former vice president for a travel company, says it&#8217;s essential to run the numbers. &#8220;Calculate the total cost of the travel experience,&#8221; he recommends.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He&#8217;s right. The advertised base price is meaningless. Add up everything—baggage, seat selection, early check-in, Wi-Fi, resort fees—before comparing your options.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-can-you-do-about-it" class="wp-block-heading">What can you do about it?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We need to demand quality products at fair prices—not this travel shrinkflation wrapped in marketing double-speak.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So here&#8217;s my advice:</p>



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<li><strong>Don&#8217;t believe the spin. </strong>Stop accepting the industry&#8217;s framing that you&#8217;re getting &#8220;choice.&#8221; You&#8217;re not. You&#8217;re getting less for more, repackaged as an upgrade.<br></li>



<li><strong>Work with a pro. </strong>A human travel agent knows which companies offer fair value. That information can make the difference between overpaying and traveling smart.<br></li>



<li><strong>Vote with your wallet.</strong> Support airlines and hotels that bundle services transparently, even if their sticker price looks higher. Push back against obvious cash grabs. File complaints when companies advertise one price and charge another.</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The old standards are reasonable and worth revisiting. If you&#8217;re flying, you get 34 inches of legroom, a checked bag, an assigned seat and, on longer flights, an edible meal. If you&#8217;re staying at a hotel, basic services are always included in the up-front price. And travel companies make money the old-fashioned way: by charging people for tickets and rooms.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That wasn&#8217;t premium. That was basic travel. And until we demand it back, the creep will continue—one inch, one fee, one &#8220;premium&#8221; upcharge at a time.</p>



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    <div class="faq-answer"><p>Premium creep is the industry-wide practice of taking services that used to be included, such as legroom, a checked bag, or a seat assignment, and selling them back to you as a premium upgrade. The base product gets stripped down so you pay extra to restore what was once standard.</p></div></details>

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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">Wuri Handayani had just flown from Jakarta to London when her phone buzzed. The message came through WhatsApp from someone calling herself &#8220;Christin,&#8221; an administrator at Hotel Flair in Salzburg, Austria, where Handayani had made a reservation through Booking.com.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The system couldn&#8217;t verify her credit card, Christin wrote. Her room was at risk unless she confirmed her details &#8220;right away.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Handayani clicked the link. By the time she understood what had happened, her card was billed 1,036 euros. The scammers had walked her through a payment that required a one-time password, so her bank treated the charge as authorized and refused to claw it back.</p>



<h2 id="h-why-these-scams-know-so-much-about-you" class="wp-block-heading">Why these scams know so much about you</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The reason the message felt real is that it was built from real information. Security researchers at Norton call this reservation hijacking, a form of targeted phishing where criminals use genuine booking details to make their messages look legitimate.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In a few months of tracking, Norton identified <a href="https://us.norton.com/blog/online-scams/reservation-hijacking-scam">more than 350 compromised accommodations across 50 countries</a>, spanning hotels, hostels, resorts, and guesthouses. The scams work because they lean on details only you and your hotel should know.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The data has to come from somewhere, and the travel industry keeps springing leaks. In April, Booking.com began notifying customers that unauthorized third parties had accessed reservation data.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s the part that should worry you: Travelers reported getting scam WhatsApp messages with accurate booking details <em>before</em> Booking.com even sent its notification. The fraud moved faster than the disclosure of the breach. That&#8217;s probably because a team of lawyers vets each disclosure, which can take a while. Criminals have no such reservations.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Booking.com draws a careful line. It denies a direct breach of its own systems and says attackers got in by stealing login credentials from its hotel partners. Whatever you want to call it, the data ended up in the wrong hands.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The cruise business isn&#8217;t faring better. Carnival Corporation confirmed that 5,995,277 people were affected by an April breach, according to a notice filed with the Maine attorney general&#8217;s office.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The exposed data includes names, addresses, dates of birth, and government-issued ID numbers such as passport and driver&#8217;s license numbers. Eurail, KLM, and Air France have all reported breaches in the past year, and like the Booking.com case, most traced back to a third party rather than the company&#8217;s own front door.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-the-travel-industry-says" class="wp-block-heading">What the travel industry says</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Airlines, cruise lines and hotels claim they&#8217;re doing what they can to keep your data safe. Trade groups and executives point to the millions they spend on security and argue that criminals go after the weakest link, usually an independent hotel or a contractor, not the big platform.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The travel business sits on enormous stores of passport numbers, payment cards, and itineraries, and its sprawling supply chains and franchised operations make it a soft target. Holding a platform liable for fraud committed by outside criminals, the argument goes, would raise costs and shrink the supply of cheap bookings.</p>



<h2 id="h-but-is-the-travel-industry-doing-enough" class="wp-block-heading">But is the travel industry doing enough?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And that brings us to today&#8217;s question.</p>


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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And a few follow-up questions &#8230;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you said yes:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>When a platform&#8217;s own customer service says a hotel agreed to a refund, should the platform have to pay if that refund never lands?</li>



<li>What, if anything, should booking sites be required to do to vet the security of the small hotels they sell?</li>
</ul>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you said no:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">How do you protect yourself when the scammer already has your real confirmation number and check-in date?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Once a bank treats a one-time-password charge as authorized, what&#8217;s left for the consumer to do?</p>



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      My feeling is the booking agent where your info came from should be responsible, but the traveler bears some of the blame. A reputable hotel or airline won&#8217;t be contacting you via WhatsApp. There will be a phone call or email, not a third party app they don&#8217;t know you have! I don&#8217;t even have WhatsApp, nor do I want it. If I did have it, however, I wouldn&#8217;t trust an out of the blue message from a business on it unless I gave express permission to contact me that way. And even then, I wouldn&#8217;t trust it.
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A company that collects your whole itinerary takes on a duty to guard it. When that data leaks and turns into a weapon aimed at you, &#8220;we spend millions on security&#8221; is not an acceptable answer.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Handayani&#8217;s case shows where the system fails the customer. Booking.com&#8217;s own customer service emailed her to say the hotel had agreed to process a refund. That was months ago. She&#8217;s still waiting for her money.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Booking.com can argue all day about whether its servers or partners were breached. To Handayani, with a fake message on her phone, that distinction means nothing. The platform held the data, it ran the channel the scammer used, and it made the refund promise. It owns the outcome.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The fix here isn&#8217;t complicated. Treat reservation data like the sensitive material it is. When your own staff promises a refund, honor it. (And travelers, don&#8217;t treat every message on WhatsApp as gospel truth. It could be a scammer.)</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Have you gotten an urgent message demanding card verification right after booking a trip? Tell me about it in the comments. These stories are how we push for change, and booking scams are some of the most-read, most-argued pieces we run. What&#8217;s the one question about travel privacy you wish someone would finally ask?</p>



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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="226" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/ditch-the-passport-300x226.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Cartoon illustration of a worried traveler holding a soaked passport beside a washing machine after it accidentally went through the laundry." style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/ditch-the-passport-300x226.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/ditch-the-passport-1062x800.png 1062w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/ditch-the-passport-150x113.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/ditch-the-passport-768x578.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/ditch-the-passport.png 1232w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>A U.S. passport went through the wash during a week in Singapore, half a cycle on heavy duty before its owner remembered it was in a back pocket. State Department guidance is clear that significant damage, including water exposure, voids a passport, which means applying in person at a U.S. embassy, paying a $130 fee, and racing to get a replacement before an upcoming border crossing into Malaysia. The mishap raises a larger question: why do travelers still depend on a fragile paper booklet at all? Hundreds of thousands of U.S. passports are reported lost or stolen each year, and modern borders already scan faces, fingerprints, and travel history in milliseconds. More than 150 countries now issue electronic passports with embedded chips, yet those documents remain physical objects vulnerable to washing machines and pickpockets. A few countries have started clearing travelers with facial and biometric checks alone, suggesting the chip, not the booklet, has become the real document. The question is what it would take for the United States to follow.]]></description>
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        <li>A U.S. passport went through the wash during a week in Singapore. State Department guidance says water damage voids a passport, meaning an in-person embassy visit, a $130 fee, and a race against an upcoming border crossing into Malaysia.</li>
        <li>The mishap raises a bigger question: why do travelers still depend on a fragile paper booklet at all? Hundreds of thousands of U.S. passports are lost or stolen every year, and modern borders already scan faces and biometrics in seconds.</li>
        <li>Several countries have moved past paper, clearing travelers with facial and biometric checks alone. The chip, not the booklet, is now the real document, raising the question of what it would take for the United States to catch up.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">My U.S. passport just went through the laundry.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It couldn&#8217;t have happened at a worse time. I&#8217;m in Singapore for a week, and I need a valid passport to leave the country. According to the State Department, I probably don&#8217;t have one.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The little blue book that proves I&#8217;m an American spent half a cycle on &#8220;heavy duty&#8221; before I remembered it was in my back pocket. It&#8217;s been sitting on the windowsill in my apartment, drying out since then.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The State Department&#8217;s guidance is clear: &#8220;significant&#8221; damage, including water exposure, <a href="https://www.usa.gov/lost-stolen-passport">voids my passport</a>. I&#8217;m supposed to apply for a new one in person in the U.S. Embassy, fork over the $130 application fee—and pray the replacement arrives before I have to drive to Kuala Lumpur.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But my passport drama got me thinking: Why do we even need these fragile documents in the first place?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Maybe we don&#8217;t.</p>



<h2 id="h-travelers-lose-their-passports-all-the-time" class="wp-block-heading">Travelers lose their passports all the time</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">My passport panic is shared by many travelers. The State Department estimates that around 300,000 U.S. passports are lost or stolen each year. Globally, INTERPOL&#8217;s <a href="https://www.interpol.int/en/How-we-work/Border-management/SLTD-database-travel-and-identity-documents">Stolen and Lost Travel Documents database</a>, a clearinghouse used by border officers worldwide, contains tens of millions of entries.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It turns out there&#8217;s a solution. What&#8217;s missing is the political will to admit that the paper passport is a relic that&#8217;s far outlived its usefulness.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We&#8217;ve already built a global system that scans your face, fingerprints and travel history in milliseconds but then asks you to back it all up with a 24-page paper booklet you can ruin by spilling your morning espresso on it.</p>



<h2 id="h-why-your-passport-book-is-a-museum-piece" class="wp-block-heading">Why your passport book is a museum piece</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Think about what a passport actually is. It&#8217;s really just a chip covered in empty, securely water-marked pages. Those pages exist because, once upon a time, a uniformed agent slammed a rubber stamp onto them when you crossed a border.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Today, almost nobody stamps anything. At many modern airports, you walk up to an eGate. A camera matches your face to the chip in your passport, which itself contains a digital copy of your photo and biometric data. The agent — if there is one — barely looks up.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The chip <em>is </em>the document. The booklet is window dressing.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">More than 150 countries now issue electronic passports (e-passports) with embedded chips, based on standards set by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)—the U.N. body that governs travel documents. Critically, however, these e-passports remain physical objects, vulnerable to washing machines and pickpockets.</p>



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      Sorry, but this whole conversation is coming from a very Western and EU perspective. &#8220;Oh, let&#8217;s just go with a digital passport&#8221; completely disregards MANY countries all over the world that don&#8217;t have the technology to handle that. Cripes, even Belize can&#8217;t handle a boarding pass on your phone, you have to print out a paper one. Is this an issue in France or Japan? No. Is it a possible issue in the Congo, Guatemala, or several dozen less developed countries? Absolutely. Your solution is very self serving.
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<h2 id="h-a-few-countries-are-already-past-paper" class="wp-block-heading">A few countries are already past paper</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Finland ran the world&#8217;s first <a href="http://raja.fi/en/dtc">cross-border pilot</a> of a digital travel credential with Croatia a few years ago. Passengers only needed to look at a camera and hold their passport above a reader for a moment. The early findings showed significantly faster border processing times, averaging less than 8 seconds, compared with about 25 seconds for typical automated lanes.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Singapore, where I currently live, has gone even further. Since 2024, the Immigration &amp; Checkpoints Authority has fully rolled out <a href="https://www.ica.gov.sg/news-and-publications/newsroom/media-release/passport-less-clearance-fully-rolled-out-at-changi-airport">passport-less clearance</a> across all four terminals at Changi Airport. Residents clear immigration with facial and iris biometrics. Average screening times have been reduced by 60 percent, from 25 seconds to 10 seconds.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I had a chance to see Singapore&#8217;s checkpoint when I arrived last week from Sydney. I was shocked by how quickly and effortlessly it all went. It was like walking through a subway turnstile.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In the United States, the Transportation Security Administration has begun accepting electronic credentials at airport screening areas. The TSA allows travelers to use their <a href="https://www.tsa.gov/digital-id">digital IDs</a> at more than 250 airport checkpoints, including U.S. passports stored in Google Wallet, Apple Wallet and CLEAR. But the ID on your phone isn&#8217;t recognized as a passport when you cross the border—at least not yet.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There&#8217;s a silver lining. At least the U.S. State Department now accepts online passport renewal for eligible adult applicants. The government has already issued more than 7.3 million passports through the online system to rave reviews from travelers. But an electronic passport remains elusive.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-needs-to-happen-next" class="wp-block-heading">What needs to happen next</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you can apply for your passport online, you should also be able to receive a credential to your phone, secured by the same biometric technology that already runs every eGate on earth. Carry the physical booklet as a backup if you must, the way airlines still print boarding passes for people who like paper. But cross the borders with your face as an ID.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This isn&#8217;t science fiction. The standards and hardware already exist. ICAO published the technical specification years ago. What&#8217;s missing is broader commitment by governments.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The single biggest reason Americans don&#8217;t have passports — and between 45 and 50 percent of us still don&#8217;t — is the tedious application process. It is expensive and requires a trip to a post office and a specific photo.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Why not digitize the whole pipeline, the way every other modern government service has been digitized? That would remove a real barrier to international travel. More Americans abroad is, on balance, a good thing for everyone — including, I suspect, us.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-about-my-passport" class="wp-block-heading">What about my passport?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s how my passport episode ended: I tried to make an emergency appointment with the U.S. embassy in Singapore, but it was closed Memorial Day and then for the Muslim holidays. By the time a consular official called me back on Thursday, it was too late to do anything. I had to press on.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The passport dried out nicely. In Singapore&#8217;s oppressive humidity, expected some cockling from the pages, but once they dried out and I pressed them, they looked perfect. Only one page—an expired visa to Laos—had a signature that bled into the adjoining page.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">On Friday, I crossed the land border between Singapore and Malaysia. The remaining ink smudge on my visa page didn&#8217;t even register, and I sailed right through the checkpoint. But I stayed up all night worrying, and that was no fun.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Digital passports can&#8217;t come soon enough. In the meantime, my best advice is to store your passport in a safe place when you&#8217;re traveling—and never, <em>ever</em> your back pocket.</p>



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        <li>Journalist Kate McCulley fled Madagascar with police tear gas blanketing her hotel neighborhood in Antananarivo as the country teetered on the edge of a military coup, finally catching a flight to Réunion after days of trying.</li>
        <li>Travelers are more concerned about safety than at any point since the pandemic. Government advisories often lag behind reality, tour operators downplay risks, and standard travel insurance rarely covers leaving out of fear alone.</li>
        <li>Leaving early is rarely a simple call after months of planning and thousands of dollars spent. There is no algorithm for it, but security professionals point to clear early triggers that separate a manageable situation from a genuinely unsafe one.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">Kate McCulley knew it was time to leave Madagascar. Flights were getting canceled, there were protests outside her hotel in Antananarivo, and the country was on the verge of a military coup.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;My hotel was right in the middle of the fray,&#8221; says McCulley, a journalist based in Prague. &#8220;The police blanketed the neighborhood in tear gas and it wafted over everything — it was painful to breathe.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After several days of trying to leave, she finally caught a flight to Réunion as the island plunged into chaos.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Leaving your vacation early is not always such an easy call. You&#8217;ve planned for months, paid thousands of dollars, and finally arrived at your dream destination. Then the situation shifts. Maybe it&#8217;s civil unrest brewing in the streets or a natural disaster barreling toward shore. Maybe there&#8217;s a sudden spike in crime. Or maybe the hotel bar is running out of olives.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Do you cut your losses? Or do you stay put and hope it blows over?&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There&#8217;s no algorithm for your decision. Government warnings are often vague or late. Tour operators downplay risks. And your travel insurance probably won&#8217;t cover leaving out of fear alone. But there are clear triggers that separate a manageable situation from a dangerous one — if you know what to do.</p>



<h2 id="h-the-new-age-of-travel-anxiety" class="wp-block-heading">The new age of travel anxiety</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Travelers are concerned about their safety now more than at any time since the pandemic. A recent <a href="https://www.globalrescue.com/common/blog/detail/travel-info-2025-destinations-security-overtourism-experiences/">Global Rescue survey</a> found 85 percent of experienced travelers worry about civil unrest, and nearly 9 in 10 research a destination&#8217;s safety before booking.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Safety is no longer a secondary consideration,&#8221; says Dan Richards, CEO of Global Rescue.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We&#8217;re living in what John Rose, chief risk advisor for <a href="https://altour.com/">ALTOUR</a>, calls the era of managed risk versus imminent threat.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Every destination has risk,&#8221; Rose says. &#8220;What matters is whether that risk has escalated into an immediate threat to life, liberty, or medical access.&#8221;</p>



<h2 id="h-what-makes-a-destination-risky" class="wp-block-heading">What makes a destination risky?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Daniel Loo, a principal security risk management consultant for North Star Group, has spent his career in security. He&#8217;s clear about when conditions cross the line.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;One or two isolated incidents don&#8217;t always indicate a pattern,&#8221; he says. &#8220;But a sustained escalation in local unrest, communication breakdowns, or government curfews are indicators that conditions have crossed from &#8216;risky&#8217; to &#8216;unsafe.'&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Loo monitors three primary triggers:</p>



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<li><strong>Loss of reliable information flow.</strong> Your first warning is when local news, embassy alerts, and travel communications become inconsistent or censored, situational awareness is compromised. That&#8217;s your first warning.</li>
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<li><strong>Breakdown of normal logistics.</strong> If transportation, fuel, or banking become unreliable, mobility and safety start eroding quickly.</li>
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<li><strong>Shift in local sentiment toward foreigners.</strong> An uptick in harassment, protests, or checkpoints specifically targeting outsiders usually signals it&#8217;s time to leave while routes remain open.</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Government advisories help, but they lag behind reality on the ground. They&#8217;re written to cover wide audiences. By the time they&#8217;re updated, you might&#8217;ve already lost your window to leave safely.</p>



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<h2 id="h-why-official-warnings-are-not-enough" class="wp-block-heading">Why official warnings are not enough</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The State Department uses four travel advisory levels, ranging from Level 1 (exercise normal precautions) to Level 4 (do not travel).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Security professionals treat the State Department warnings as a starting point, combining them with advisories from Canada and the U.K., as well as local news reports and on-the-ground intelligence.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A more practical tool is the <a href="https://mytravel.state.gov/s/step">Smart Traveler Enrollment Program</a> (STEP). This free service allows U.S. citizens to enroll their trip with the Department of State, which uses the information on the enrollment form to send emergency alerts. If you get a STEP notification, consider it a strong signal to postpone your trip or, if you&#8217;re already at your destination, to leave.</p>



<h2 id="h-a-reality-check-you-can-t-ignore" class="wp-block-heading">A reality check you can&#8217;t ignore</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Some warnings are overblown. You need to do a gut check before fleeing the country.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Sarah White, a restaurant manager from Arlington, Va., was visiting friends in Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine, when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;My parents were sending me American journalism which was full of incorrect information about airports being closed,&#8221; White remembers. &#8220;They were begging me to find a way to get home faster.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So she called the U.S. Embassy for advice. A Ukrainian embassy worker answered the phone. She asked White to look out the window.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Did she see violence? No. Did she feel unsafe? No.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The embassy worker had a valid point. White was hundreds of miles from the violence. She returned on her scheduled flight.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s the decision every traveler faces. Your instincts versus the sunk cost of your trip. Fear versus reality. Local knowledge versus official warnings.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;People think danger comes with clear signals,&#8221; says Lucinda Faucheux, co-founder of Travel Support Circle. &#8220;But it rarely does. It starts as a feeling. Maybe a little tension in the air, people arguing more, or perhaps a growing sense that something&#8217;s shifting.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That unease is your gut picking up on risk before your brain.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-the-professionals-watch" class="wp-block-heading">What the professionals watch</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Harding Bush, a former Navy SEAL and associate director for security operations at Global Rescue, has a rule: The best time to leave is when you still have choices.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Once you don&#8217;t, you&#8217;re relying on hope,&#8221; he says. &#8220;And hope is a terrible security plan.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Bush established departure triggers for clients. They include the government shutting down the internet and enhanced military or police activity.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Every situation has a point of no return,&#8221; Bush says. &#8220;The moment when commercial exit options vanish and you become a rescue case. Leave before you reach it.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Rose from ALTOUR breaks it down into three factors travelers must assess:</p>



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<li>Access to reliable information (local sources, government updates, trusted risk partners)</li>



<li>Ability to move safely (transportation routes, curfews, airport status)</li>



<li>Availability of needed services (medical care, communication, lodging, food, water)</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;If two or more of those begin to break down, it&#8217;s time to leave,&#8221; Rose says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Habib Rkha, who manages risk for teams traveling to factories across Asia, uses a similar framework. He leaves when two or more red flags stack: government advisory escalates, curfews or airport closures begin, mobile data goes down, hospitals are strained, or trusted local partners say movement is unsafe.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;If lifelines fail, go in daylight with carry-on only and preplanned routes,&#8221; Rkha says.</p>



<h2 id="h-the-mental-math-most-travelers-miss" class="wp-block-heading">The mental math most travelers miss</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Gor Gasparyan, a UK-based web designer, was in Bangkok during the 2020 protests when demonstrations blocked main intersections near his hotel. Most people called it a short-term inconvenience. But Gasparyan saw something different.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Three nights of interrupted sleep led to failure in his work output. Client decisions that should&#8217;ve taken 20 minutes now took an hour. He started making invoice mistakes.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Ambient stress and sleep deprivation reduced my effectiveness to about 55 percent,&#8221; he says. &#8220;Each day affected my billable hours to the tune of about $900.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The economic loss of working at low capacity drove his decision to leave. Leisure travelers face a similar decision. Yes, they could stay safely. But what kind of vacation would that be? Is it <em>worth</em> staying?</p>



<h2 id="h-follow-the-locals" class="wp-block-heading">Follow the locals</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There&#8217;s a better way of knowing if a destination has turned dangerous.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;If residents begin withdrawing cash, stocking supplies, or leaving major cities, that&#8217;s usually a stronger indicator than any formal warning,&#8221; says Leonard Sipes, who spent six years in law enforcement before becoming a senior specialist for crime prevention for the U.S. Department of Justice&#8217;s clearinghouse.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Maria Knöbel, a physician who&#8217;s practiced throughout Europe and Africa, watches for similar patterns. &#8220;Earlier closing of shops, empty shelves in the pharmacies, or the cessation of public transport without warning are all early indications that things are collapsing day by day,&#8221; says Knöbel.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">During civil unrest in South Africa, she observed those patterns until hospitals began to restrict access. That&#8217;s when she left.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Deepak Shukla, founder of <a href="https://pearllemonadventures.com/">Pearl Lemon Adventures</a>, puts it more bluntly: &#8220;When the people who live there change their behavior, that&#8217;s your cue. Forget the sunk cost. You can always earn back the money. You can&#8217;t refund your safety.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The locals are often a reliable barometer of safety, agrees Lydia Eva Mpanga, founder of Nkuringo Safaris in East Africa. She regularly takes the temperature in her region by talking to park rangers, conservation wardens, and local councils.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;When something changes, a sudden protest, a washed-out road, or a temporary park closure, we hear it from the local people long before it reaches the news,&#8221; Mpanga says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">How does she define unsafe? When her sources go silent and she loses reliable communication.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-your-travel-insurance-actually-covers" class="wp-block-heading">What your travel insurance actually covers</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Most policies cover trip interruptions only when a government issues an official evacuation order or a destination becomes uninhabitable due to a natural disaster.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Fear or uncertainty alone typically isn&#8217;t covered under travel insurance, which is why we encourage travelers to purchase coverage with flexible options like &#8216;cancel for any reason&#8217; and &#8216;interruption for any reason&#8217; add-ons,&#8221; says Terry Boynton, co-founder and president of <a href="https://www.insureyonder.com/">Yonder Travel Insurance</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But cancel for any reason travel insurance isn&#8217;t cheap. It typically adds 40 to 60 percent to your base travel insurance cost, but it only reimburses 50 to 75 percent of your prepaid, nonrefundable trip costs. Also, you generally must purchase it within 14 to 21 days of your first trip payment. And you must cancel at least 48 hours before departure.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Your travel insurance policy may include other benefits, like security alerts. Daniel Durazo, director of external communications at Allianz Partners USA, points travelers to the <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aga.travelaid.us&amp;hl=en_US">Allyz mobile app</a>. It includes a U.S. Embassy finder and destination-specific safety and security alerts.</p>



<h2 id="h-evacuation-experts-prepare-and-be-prompt" class="wp-block-heading">Evacuation experts: prepare and be prompt</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When it comes to safety, research and timing are important.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;In the heat of the moment, there will be a lot of conflicting information,&#8221; says Joe Cronin, president of <a href="https://be34663a.streaklinks.com/CoGc-Fd29uauS4KF4gOmLnDo/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.internationalinsurance.com%2F">International Citizens Insurance</a>. &#8220;If you&#8217;ve decided ahead of time who to listen to, it&#8217;ll make your decision to go or stay easier.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And then there&#8217;s the matter of when to follow the advice. The sooner, the better, says John Gobbels, chief operating officer of <a href="https://medjetassist.com/">Medjet</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;It&#8217;s always wiser to exercise caution early rather than wait to see how a situation unfolds,&#8221; he says. &#8220;Time and again, there have been scenarios that could have been managed safely, but escalated simply because decisions and action were delayed.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He notes that Medjet&#8217;s MedjetHorizon membership provides access to expert security response personnel who can coordinate a path to safety or evacuate you if necessary.</p>



<h2 id="h-should-you-stay-or-should-you-go" class="wp-block-heading">Should you stay or should you go?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s simple, really. If the State Department is buzzing you through STEP, if the locals are getting out of town, and if basic services like communication are starting to collapse, maybe it&#8217;s time to head for the exits.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You have to also listen to your inner voice.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Christopher Littlestone, a retired U.S. Army Special Forces lieutenant colonel, learned this lesson repeatedly during his career. His security principles apply whether you&#8217;re on the battlefield or on vacation.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Trust your instincts,&#8221; he says. &#8220;They&#8217;re not random feelings. They&#8217;re your brain&#8217;s pattern recognition at work, detecting subtle signals of danger before your conscious mind does.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A close friend of his was in the shower at a five-star hotel when a major earthquake struck. She grabbed her valuables and caught the next flight out. Within 90 minutes, she was airborne.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;She later called it &#8216;the best money I ever spent,'&#8221; says Littlestone, who teaches <a href="http://lifeisaspecialoperation.com">security courses</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Once you&#8217;re in the middle of chaos, with flights getting canceled and streets filling with protesters, it&#8217;s too late to think clearly. The travelers who get out safely are the ones who decided their red lines before they ever boarded the plane.</p>



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  <h2 class="voice-matters-title">Your voice matters</h2>
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    When a destination starts to go sideways, travelers are mostly on their own. Government advisories lag behind events, tour operators have an interest in keeping you in place, and most travel insurance will not pay out for leaving on instinct alone. The decision to stay or go falls on the traveler.
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    <li>Should the State Department be legally required to issue real-time travel alerts for unfolding crises, rather than periodic advisories that lag behind events?</li>
    <li>Should tour operators be legally required to offer a full refund when they continue selling trips to a destination that government security professionals consider unsafe?</li>
    <li>Should standard travel insurance be required to include cancel-for-any-reason coverage, instead of selling it as a costly add-on?</li>
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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Extra-Money-300x200.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Illustration of a worried man on the phone holding a credit card while a concert crowd watches performers on stage, representing a StubHub ticket refund dispute." style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Extra-Money-300x200.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Extra-Money-1200x800.png 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Extra-Money-150x100.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Extra-Money-768x512.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/Extra-Money.png 1248w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>Paul Avron's daughter bought three Coldplay tickets at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami for $1,027, nine months before the show, as a birthday gift for her best friend and the friend's dad. On the day of the concert, the StubHub app said the tickets were being released, but they never appeared. With the show already starting, the family called StubHub in a panic and asked for the tickets or replacements so the group could get in. The last representative refused to provide replacement tickets and said they had to buy new ones, promising StubHub would refund the original $1,027. The rep said he saw three tickets for just $1 more than the original purchase and sent a link. The tickets were actually $1,000 each, and StubHub charged the credit card $3,000. The family disputed the charge with their credit card company and contacted StubHub directly, but both representatives said they would not credit the account. The family never accepted or used the expensive tickets and never attended the concert. StubHub's FanProtect Guarantee promises valid tickets or your money back, and says StubHub will find comparable replacement tickets when possible.]]></description>
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        <li>Paul Avron&#8217;s daughter bought three Coldplay tickets at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami for $1,027, nine months before the show, as a birthday gift for her best friend and the friend&#8217;s dad.</li>
        <li>On the day of the concert the StubHub app said the tickets were being released, but they never appeared. With the show already starting, the family called in a panic and a representative refused replacement tickets, telling them to buy new ones instead.</li>
        <li>The rep said he found three tickets for just $1 more and sent a link. The tickets were actually $1,000 each, and StubHub charged the credit card $3,000. StubHub&#8217;s FanProtect Guarantee promises valid tickets or your money back, plus comparable replacements when possible.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><em>Paul Avron&#8217;s daughter buys Coldplay tickets nine months before their show, but when the tickets don&#8217;t appear on the day of the event, a StubHub representative advises her to spend an additional $3,000 for replacement tickets. Can she get a refund?</em></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">My daughter bought three tickets to see Coldplay at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami for $1,027 nine months before the event. This was a birthday gift for her best friend and the friend&#8217;s dad. They had been looking forward to it for months.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">On the day of the show, the StubHub app said the tickets were being released. But when the show started and the tickets still hadn&#8217;t appeared, we called StubHub in a panic. We asked for the tickets or replacement tickets so they could get into the concert.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The last representative we spoke to refused to provide replacement tickets. He said we had to buy new ones and that StubHub would refund the $1,027 my daughter had already paid. The rep told us he saw three tickets for just $1 more than we had originally paid. He sent us a link, which we opened and paid for using my credit card.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s where it gets bad: It turns out the tickets were $1,000 per <em>ticket</em>, not $1 more total. StubHub charged my credit card $3,000.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I immediately called my credit card company to dispute the charge. Separately, I called StubHub directly. Both representatives I spoke with said they would not credit my account.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Look, if StubHub had simply provided the tickets my daughter purchased or given us replacement tickets like they should have, I wouldn&#8217;t be in this situation. And for the record, we did not accept those expensive tickets or use them. We never even went to the concert.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Can you help us get a refund for the full amount charged to my credit card? &#8211; <strong>Paul Avron</strong>, <em>Parkland, Fla.</em></p>



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      The solution is simple. StubHub and others should require sellers to transfer the tickets to them when they create the listing. Then all tickets would be instant download when they are purchased. Or at the very least, they should require sellers to transfer the tickets within 24 hours of purchase. If the buyers do not receive them in that time, they should be able to receive an immediate refund.
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      The problem is the sites allow sellers to list tickets without proof that they actually have them and have no way to ensure that the tickets will be transferred in a timely manner.
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">StubHub should have delivered your daughter&#8217;s tickets. Period. When a seller doesn&#8217;t deliver, StubHub&#8217;s <a href="https://support.stubhub.com/articles/61000276393-stubhubs-fanprotect-guarantee">FanProtect Guarantee</a> is supposed to kick in. The guarantee promises valid tickets or your money back. But it also says StubHub will find you comparable replacement tickets when possible.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The real problem here is what happened during that support call. You were scrambling to get into a concert that was already starting. The representative told you the replacement tickets cost &#8220;$1 more&#8221; than your original purchase. But you ended up buying tickets for $1,000 each a total of $3,000.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s not a small miscommunication. That&#8217;s a communication catastrophe.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Your case is a reminder to read the purchase screen carefully even if a representative gives you the price on the phone. Talk is cheap. It&#8217;s the price on the checkout screen that counts.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You did several things right. You kept all your documentation, including both order numbers and the details of your conversations with StubHub. You contacted your credit card company right away. You followed up with StubHub directly. Those are exactly the right moves.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You could have also escalated your case in writing to one of the <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/stubhub/">StubHub executives</a>. (I publish them on my consumer advocacy site, Elliott.org.) A brief, polite email that outlines the facts and includes your paper trail often gets results when regular customer service hasn&#8217;t helped.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s something else worth mentioning: I&#8217;ve covered several StubHub cases where tickets didn&#8217;t arrive as promised. In <a href="https://www.elliott.org/problem-solved/ticket-trouble-did-stubhub-score-an-own-goal-on-this-purchase)">a recent column about nonexistent seats</a>, I noted that StubHub&#8217;s FanProtect Guarantee looks appealing on paper, but enforcement often depends on persistence and proper escalation. Your case shows the same pattern.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After you contacted me, my advocacy team reached out to StubHub. The company investigated your claim.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We&#8217;re truly sorry this customer missed an event that was so meaningful to them,&#8221; a StubHub spokesperson told me. &#8220;When their original tickets were not delivered, we issued a full refund under our FanProtect Guarantee.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">StubHub says it refunded your second purchase even though it didn&#8217;t qualify under its standard policy to make things right.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We know how important live experiences are and remain committed to supporting fans when things don&#8217;t go as planned,&#8221; the StubHub representative added.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You&#8217;re getting everything back, in other words. Your daughter gets her original $1,027 back, and you get the $3,000 refunded to your credit card.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Ticket resale platforms walk a tightrope. They&#8217;re not the primary seller, so they rely on third parties to deliver. But when you make a promise to protect fans, you have to keep it. And when a customer service representative gives pricing information during a high-stress moment, that information needs to be crystal clear.</p>



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  <h2 class="voice-matters-title">Your voice matters</h2>
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    A guarantee is only as good as its enforcement. When tickets bought nine months early never arrived, a panicked family was steered into a $3,000 purchase during a phone call, after a rep described the price as just a dollar more. This case raises hard questions about how resale platforms treat fans when things go wrong.
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    <li>Should ticket resale platforms be legally required to deliver guaranteed replacement tickets directly when a seller fails, rather than making the buyer purchase new ones?</li>
    <li>Should a price quoted by an agent on a recorded line be legally binding, even if the checkout screen shows a higher amount?</li>
    <li>Should resale platforms be required to refund buyers automatically when promised tickets are never delivered, without forcing a chargeback dispute?</li>
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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/You-Wait-Long-300x200.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Illustration of an Aer Lingus representative offering a voucher to a frustrated customer checking his watch, with the caption “One year later…”" style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/You-Wait-Long-300x200.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/You-Wait-Long-1200x800.png 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/You-Wait-Long-150x100.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/You-Wait-Long-768x512.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/You-Wait-Long.png 1248w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>After a death in the family, Beatrijs Albarran and her husband Jorge had to cancel their Aer Lingus flights. The airline issued their refunds as vouchers, $938 for her and $925 for him, and emailed that both had been processed. But when Beatrijs called the next month to book a new trip, an agent told her Jorge's voucher was never actually issued. The couple, who live in Buffalo, New York, wanted to fly from Toronto to Scotland because the fares are better, and asked whether the vouchers could be reissued in Canadian dollars. Beatrijs received hers in U.S. dollars within a reasonable time. Jorge's never arrived. For more than a year she called repeatedly, hearing the same response that a supervisor was working on it, while automated emails said the case was under review. More than 15 months after Aer Lingus said it processed the voucher, it still had not appeared. Under Aer Lingus policy, vouchers are issued in the same currency as the original booking, so no conversion was needed to book from a Canadian airport, and the Department of Transportation requires airlines to process refund and credit requests promptly.]]></description>
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        <li>Beatrijs Albarran and her husband Jorge canceled their Aer Lingus flights after a death in the family. The airline issued refunds as vouchers, $938 for her and $925 for him, and emailed that both had been processed.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><em>Beatrijs Albarran and her husband cancel their Aer Lingus flights after a death in the family and receive a refund in the form of vouchers. When they try to convert their vouchers to Canadian dollars for a trip from Toronto, Aer Lingus issues hers in three months but leaves her husband waiting for over a year. Can she get the airline to do the right thing?</em></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">My husband and I had to cancel our Aer Lingus flights last year because of a death in the family. The airline issued us vouchers, which should have been straightforward. But it hasn&#8217;t been.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I received a voucher for $938. My husband, Jorge, got an email saying his $925 voucher had been processed. But when I called the next month to book our next trip, an Aer Lingus agent told me his voucher was never actually issued.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s where it gets complicated. We live in Buffalo, New York, but wanted to fly from Toronto to Scotland because the fares are better. I asked Aer Lingus if we could have the vouchers reissued in Canadian dollars. They opened a case for both of us.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I received my voucher in U.S. dollars within a reasonable time. But Jorge&#8217;s voucher never came.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I&#8217;ve been calling Aer Lingus for months. Each time, I get the same response: &#8220;A supervisor is working on it right now.&#8221; I&#8217;ve tried their WhatsApp line during office hours, but the virtual assistant just tells me to contact them during office hours, which I&#8217;m already doing. I&#8217;ve emailed. I&#8217;ve contacted the CEO. Every few months, I get an update email saying they&#8217;re &#8220;reviewing the case.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Six months after the cancellation, an agent told me to request a currency conversion and assured me it would be expedited. They said to wait a few days for the voucher in Canadian dollars. I waited. Nothing. The next month, another agent said we were &#8220;in the queue.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A year later, I had enough. I sent another email saying I&#8217;d accept the voucher in U.S. dollars, I realized the currency difference was minimal anyway. I just wanted my husband&#8217;s voucher.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s now been over 15 months since Aer Lingus said it processed Jorge&#8217;s voucher. I received mine. Why not his? This was supposed to help us travel after dealing with a death in our family. Instead, it&#8217;s been nothing but frustration. Can you help us get Jorge&#8217;s voucher? <strong>Beatrijs Albarran</strong>, <em>Buffalo, New York</em></p>



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      If you have the opportunity to request a refund, it is almost always a better option than a voucher. &#8220;Voucher&#8221; all too often means &#8220;we don&#8217;t need cash&#8221; in airlinese.
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Aer Lingus should have issued your husband&#8217;s voucher immediately after you had to cancel your flights.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to Aer Lingus&#8217; own policy, vouchers are issued in the same currency as the original booking. You didn&#8217;t need to exchange your vouchers for Canadian dollars to make a booking from a Canadian airport. But if you wanted a currency conversion, and Aer Lingus said you could do it, that should have been handled as a straightforward request, not a 15-month ordeal.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The airline&#8217;s behavior here is inexcusable. It issued your voucher but kept giving you the runaround on your husband&#8217;s voucher. Telling you repeatedly that &#8220;a supervisor is working on it&#8221; is a classic delay tactic. And those automated &#8220;we&#8217;re reviewing your case&#8221; emails? They&#8217;re designed to make you think something is happening when nothing is.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You kept great records of every phone call, every WhatsApp attempt, every email. That paper trail is exactly what consumer advocates need to help resolve cases like yours. You even escalated to the CEO, which shows persistence. You might have tried some of the customer service managers. I publish the names, numbers and email addresses of the <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/aer-lingus/">Aer Lingus executives</a> on my consumer advocacy site, <a href="http://elliott.org">Elliott.org</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Department of Transportation has strict rules about refunds. While your case involved a voluntary cancellation and the issuance of a flight credit, the principle remains the same: airlines must process these requests promptly.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A few years ago, I wrote about another Aer Lingus customer who had <a href="https://www.elliott.org/advocacy/what-to-do-if-your-aer-lingus-flight-voucher-doesnt-work/">trouble with a voucher that didn&#8217;t work</a>. The airline eventually made it right after my advocacy team intervened, but it took four years to resolve the case. That story suggests a possible pattern: Aer Lingus sometimes promises vouchers but fails to follow through.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I contacted Aer Lingus on your behalf. Within days, the airline finally took action.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A manager issued your husband&#8217;s voucher in U.S. dollars, as you requested. Initially, a customer service representative suggested you buy a new ticket and submit a claim for reimbursement, which you correctly refused. Why should you pay out of pocket when the airline already owes you the money?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We apologize to this customer for the delay in issuing their voucher,&#8221; an Aer Lingus spokesperson told me. &#8220;Aer Lingus is liaising directly with this customer to resolve the matter and we hope to welcome them on an Aer Lingus flight soon.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Remember, if you&#8217;re dealing with an airline voucher issue, document everything. Keep records of every conversation. Don&#8217;t accept vague promises. And if you hit a wall, escalate to the executives. Companies respond differently, sometimes more positively, when someone is watching.</p>



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    Readers leaned heavily toward taking cash over a voucher whenever possible, debated whether the missing voucher was a glitch or something more deliberate, and called for stricter timelines that would penalize airlines for sitting on travelers&#8217; money.
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      Take the cash refund whenever you can
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      <strong>Gerri Hether</strong> said it is best to ask for a refund, since vouchers let the airline keep your money and most must be used within a year, with redemption headaches on top. <strong>Mama Lo</strong> cautioned that voluntary cancellations usually do not offer a refund option.
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      Was it a glitch, or something more convenient?
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      <strong>Mr. Smith</strong> was skeptical that Aer Lingus ever intended to issue Jorge&#8217;s voucher, calling it a convenient way to hold the money until an advocate intervened. <strong>737MAXPilot</strong> saw it as a glitch buried in a broken system, with Chris responding that a broken system is no excuse without notifying the customer.
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      Airlines should face the same strict timelines they enforce
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      <strong>Blues Traveler</strong> argued that if passengers must change tickets or pay fees inside a strict window, airlines should be held to a similar timeline when issuing credits. <strong>Dangerous Ideas</strong> wondered how many travelers give up over 15 months and credited the family for sticking with it.
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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/unaccompanied-minors--300x200.jpg" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Two worried teenage boys sit in an airport terminal holding boarding passes after an unaccompanied minor travel problem." style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/unaccompanied-minors--300x200.jpg 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/unaccompanied-minors--1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/unaccompanied-minors--150x100.jpg 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/unaccompanied-minors--768x512.jpg 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/unaccompanied-minors-.jpg 1536w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>After Jocelyn Peers' teenage sons finished their language immersion program in Alicante, Spain, she thought the hard part was over. The boys had thrived in Europe, navigating a foreign country and learning the language. All that remained was a simple flight home to Seattle.]]></description>
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        <li>Jocelyn Peers booked round-trip KLM tickets directly for her sons, ages 13 and 16, and paid the $343 unaccompanied minor service fee. Less than 24 hours before departure, KLM said the itinerary it had sold violated its own UM policy.</li>
        <li>The return booking included a 14-hour overnight layover in Amsterdam, which KLM&#8217;s policy does not allow for unaccompanied minors. With school closed and no supervision available, the boys were effectively stranded in Spain.</li>
        <li>KLM&#8217;s solution was for the boys&#8217; father to fly to Amsterdam immediately and escort them home on a $19,354 business class ticket. An agent assured the family on a recorded line that KLM would reimburse the cost. Weeks later, KLM called the emergency flight &#8220;optional.&#8221;</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">After Jocelyn Peers&#8217; teenage sons finished their language immersion program in Alicante, Spain, she thought the hard part was over. The boys had thrived in Europe, navigating a foreign country and learning the language. All that remained was a simple flight home to Seattle.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It wasn&#8217;t simple.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Less than 24 hours before their departure, KLM informed Peers that the itinerary it had booked for her sons, ages 13 and 16, violated the airline&#8217;s unaccompanied minor (UM) policy.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;KLM admitted they could not honor the itinerary they had sold us,&#8221; Peers says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The boys couldn&#8217;t fly home as planned. They were effectively stranded in Spain with school closed and no adult supervision available.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">KLM&#8217;s solution? Her husband, Clive, would need to fly to Amsterdam immediately to escort the boys home. The business class ticket cost $19,354. A KLM agent assured Peers on a recorded line that the airline would reimburse the cost.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But a few weeks later, KLM denied the claim. The emergency flight, it said, was &#8220;optional.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This case raises several important questions about airline responsibility and unaccompanied minor services:</p>



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<li>What are airlines required to provide when they sell unaccompanied minor services?</li>



<li>Can an airline refuse to honor an itinerary it booked and confirmed?</li>



<li>What happens when an airline makes a promise to reimburse emergency expenses, and then reneges?</li>
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<h2 id="h-the-booking-that-should-never-have-happened" class="wp-block-heading">The booking that should never have happened</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Peers had booked her sons&#8217; round-trip tickets directly with KLM. Her son Quinn, then 13, required unaccompanied minor&nbsp; service under KLM&#8217;s mandatory policy for children ages 5 to 14. His older brother Kaeden, 16, traveled with him.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Peers paid the required $343 UM service fee and received a confirmation.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The outbound journey went smoothly. The boys flew from Seattle to Alicante via Amsterdam without incident. Their return was scheduled for a month later, with what appeared to be a standard connection in Amsterdam before continuing to Seattle.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But the day before departure, Peers received an email with the flight details. Buried at the bottom was a small note: &#8220;Please call KLM.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That phone call revealed a stunning oversight by both KLM and the parents. The itinerary included a 14-hour overnight layover in Amsterdam. The boys would arrive at Schiphol at 8 p.m. and wouldn&#8217;t depart for Seattle until 10:20 a.m. the next day.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s the problem: KLM&#8217;s own policy explicitly states that unaccompanied minor transfers are &#8220;allowed on KLM, Air France, and Delta Air Lines flights only.&#8221; The policy makes no provision for overnight layovers. There&#8217;s no supervised lounge for minors to spend the night, no hotel arrangements, no chaperones.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This brings back memories of another unaccompanied minor disaster: mine.</p>



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      I&#8217;m surprised that the parents did not notice the layover, or even check it, as when I book a flight I want to know how much time I have to catch the second leg, and if it&#8217;s a long layover, plan what I would do (like, maybe go for a quick sightseeing). If it were my kids, I would like to know where they would be at every moment of their journey.
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I was 13 years old and traveling alone with my 11-year-old brother from Los Angeles to Vienna via JFK. After we landed in New York, our Vienna flight was canceled and we had no idea what to do. A kindly Eastern Airlines agent took us under her wing. She sent us to a hotel and made sure we had enough food until the next day.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If Eastern had called my parents and asked them to come to New York, they would have refused. They didn&#8217;t have the resources to book a flight and, as 1950s parents, they thought the boys could take care of themselves. Those were the days!</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Anyway, Peers spent nearly two hours on the phone as KLM agents scrambled for solutions. Could a teacher from the language program accompany the boys? No, the school had closed. Could the boys travel to Barcelona or Madrid instead? They were 13 and 16, how exactly would two teenagers navigate Spanish trains alone and book new flights?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Could the boys just wait in Amsterdam overnight? KLM couldn&#8217;t supervise them. Where would they sleep? How would two minors check into a hotel?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Every suggestion was either implausible or bordering on absurd, or both.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The $19,354 solution</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">KLM&#8217;s final offer was to rebook the boys on a Transavia flight from Alicante to Amsterdam. But Transavia is only a partner airline, not KLM itself. The carrier couldn&#8217;t provide unaccompanied minor service for that leg. No one would meet the boys in Amsterdam or sign the required paperwork.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The only viable solution was an expensive one: A parent would need to fly to Amsterdam to retrieve them.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;With no time to spare,&#8221; Peers says, her husband Clive left for Seattle airport. KLM booked him on a pricey business class ticket from Seattle to Amsterdam via Vancouver.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The KLM agent who arranged the booking assured Peers on a recorded line that KLM would reimburse the emergency ticket and related expenses.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Clive spent 30 hours in transit, met his sons at Schiphol, and flew them home to Seattle.&nbsp;</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What are airlines required to provide with unaccompanied minor services?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When you purchase an airline&#8217;s unaccompanied minor service, you&#8217;re buying more than just a plane ticket. You&#8217;re purchasing a specific set of protections and supervision for your child.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">KLM&#8217;s unaccompanied minor policy states that transfers for children traveling alone are allowed on KLM, Air France, and Delta Air Lines flights only, and that the service is available for all nonstop flights.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The policy exists for good reason. Children traveling alone need continuous supervision during layovers. (Don&#8217;t I know!) They can&#8217;t simply wander airport terminals for hours, much less overnight. They can&#8217;t make independent decisions about rebooking flights or finding accommodation.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When Peers booked the tickets through a KLM agent, she provided all the necessary information: her sons&#8217; ages, the requirement for unaccompanied minor service and their travel dates. The agent had access to KLM&#8217;s policies and systems. The agent booked the itinerary and took the UM service fee.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">At that point, KLM assumed responsibility for ensuring the itinerary complied with its own policies. The airline confirmed the booking. It issued the tickets. It sent confirmation emails. For more than a month, KLM gave every indication that the boys&#8217; return flight was properly arranged.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In the Peers case, KLM&#8217;s failure was fundamental. The airline didn&#8217;t just make a minor scheduling error. It sold a service it couldn&#8217;t legally provide under its own rules. The overnight layover wasn&#8217;t a borderline case or gray area, it was a clear policy violation.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The real question isn&#8217;t whether KLM should have booked a compliant itinerary in the first place. Of course it should have. No, the question is what obligation an airline has when it discovers it can&#8217;t fulfill the service it sold. Can it simply cancel the booking and walk away? Or does it bear responsibility for making the customer whole?</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Can an airline refuse to honor an itinerary it booked and confirmed?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Airlines make mistakes. Systems glitch, agents screw up, schedules change. But there&#8217;s a difference between a mistake an airline catches and fixes promptly, and a mistake it discovers the day before departure when the customer has no alternatives.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When an airline discovers it can&#8217;t honor a confirmed itinerary, it generally has several options. It can rebook the passenger on an alternative compliant routing at no additional cost. It can provide accommodations if a delay is necessary. In cases where no solution exists, it can refund the ticket and compensate the passenger for the inconvenience.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What it <em>can&#8217;t </em>ethically do is say &#8220;we made a mistake, but fixing it is your problem now.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s essentially what happened here. KLM acknowledged the itinerary violated its own policy. It acknowledged discovering this violation too late for the family to make alternative arrangements. But instead of taking responsibility, it offered impractical suggestions and ultimately forced the family to bear the cost of its error.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">KLM&#8217;s contract of carriage, the agreement between airline and passenger, requires it to provide transportation as confirmed or offer suitable alternatives. When an airline can&#8217;t fulfill its obligation and the passenger must arrange emergency travel as a direct result of the airline&#8217;s mistake, the airline bears responsibility for those costs.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The family&#8217;s decision to send Clive to Amsterdam wasn&#8217;t optional in any meaningful sense. It was the only viable solution to a problem KLM created.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What happens when an airline promises to reimburse emergency expenses?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s where the Peers&#8217; case becomes particularly frustrating. When KLM&#8217;s agent booked Clive&#8217;s emergency ticket to Amsterdam, the agent explicitly stated that KLM would reimburse the cost.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The agent knew exactly why the emergency ticket was necessary: because KLM had booked an itinerary it couldn&#8217;t honor and discovered the problem too late for any other solution. The agent had authority to book a $19,354 business class ticket on KLM&#8217;s behalf. And the agent made a clear promise about reimbursement.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Peers relied on that promise. She authorized the charge, her husband flew to Amsterdam, and the family incurred the substantial expense based on KLM&#8217;s explicit assurance.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In retrospect, Peers should have insisted that KLM pay for the ticket. But in the heat of the moment, she wanted to get her boys home and would have probably done anything KLM asked.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Weeks later, when Peers filed her reimbursement claim, KLM called the emergency flight &#8220;optional.&#8221; This characterization is bewildering. What was the alternative? Leave two teenagers, one just 13 years old, to fend for themselves in Amsterdam overnight?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Airlines can&#8217;t have it both ways. They can&#8217;t authorize their agents to make promises to resolve crises, then repudiate those promises after customers have relied on them and incurred expenses.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The legal principle of &#8220;promissory estoppel&#8221; exists precisely for situations like this. When one party makes a clear promise, the other party reasonably relies on that promise, and if the relying party suffers harm as a result, the promising party is bound by its commitment even without a formal written contract.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Peers filed complaints with the Washington State Attorney General&#8217;s Office and with EU passenger rights authorities. She documented everything: the original booking emails, the phone calls, the emergency ticket charges, KLM&#8217;s denial letters.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Will she get her money back?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After my team contacted KLM, the airline reversed its position. KLM&#8217;s customer care team contacted Peers directly to arrange the reimbursement of $19,354 for the emergency ticket, plus the $343 UM service fee and $74 in parking costs.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The resolution came more than two months after the initial incident and only after the family had filed multiple complaints with regulatory authorities and sought media intervention. But it came.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What can travelers learn from this case? First, double-check your reservation to make sure it doesn&#8217;t contain an overnight stay. Document everything when you&#8217;re booking unaccompanied minor service. Save all confirmation emails, note the names of agents you speak with, and review your itinerary carefully well before departure, in case anything has changed. Record all calls if possible.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you spot a problem, like an overnight layover, raise it immediately.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Second, understand that unaccompanied minor policies exist for safety reasons. These aren&#8217;t arbitrary rules airlines can waive when convenient. When an airline accepts your UM service fee, it&#8217;s accepting legal responsibility for your child&#8217;s supervision during the entire journey.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Third, if an airline makes a promise on a recorded line, document it. Note the date, time, and name of the agent. Follow up with written communication confirming what was promised. Airlines may later claim ignorance of what their agents said, but your documentation makes your case much stronger.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Fourth, don&#8217;t accept absurd &#8220;solutions&#8221; to problems the airline created. When KLM suggested the boys could travel to Barcelona or spend an unsupervised night in Amsterdam, those weren&#8217;t real options. Trust your instincts about what&#8217;s reasonable and safe for your children.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And finally, persistence matters. Peers didn&#8217;t give up when KLM denied her initial claim. She escalated through multiple channels, to the Attorney General&#8217;s office, EU authorities, and <a href="http://elliottadvocacy.org/help">this consumer advocacy organization</a>. Each step created additional pressure and documentation. Eventually, that persistence paid off.</p>



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      <p>When you pay an unaccompanied minor fee, you are buying more than a seat. You are purchasing continuous supervision and a specific set of protections for your child throughout the journey, including during layovers. Children traveling alone cannot wander terminals for hours, rebook flights, or arrange accommodation on their own, so the airline accepts responsibility for supervising them from departure to arrival.</p>
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      <p>When an airline discovers it cannot honor a confirmed itinerary, it generally has options: rebook the passenger on a compliant routing at no extra cost, provide accommodations if a delay is needed, or refund and compensate the passenger. An airline&#8217;s contract of carriage requires it to provide transportation as confirmed or offer suitable alternatives, rather than leaving the customer to solve the problem.</p>
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      <p>It can be. The legal principle of promissory estoppel applies when one party makes a clear promise, the other party reasonably relies on it, and the relying party suffers harm as a result. In that situation the promising party can be bound even without a formal written contract. Documenting the date, time, and agent name, then confirming in writing, strengthens your position significantly.</p>
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      <p>When an airline cannot fulfill its obligation and a passenger must arrange emergency travel as a direct result of the airline&#8217;s mistake, the airline generally bears responsibility for those costs. A solution forced on a family by the airline&#8217;s own error is not truly optional, particularly when the alternative would leave minors unsupervised.</p>
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      <p>Double-check the reservation to make sure it does not contain an overnight stay, and review the itinerary carefully well before departure in case anything changed. Document everything when booking, save all confirmation emails, and note the names of agents you speak with. If you spot a problem like an overnight layover, raise it immediately rather than waiting.</p>
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      <p>Persistence matters. Escalate through multiple channels, including your state attorney general&#8217;s office, EU passenger rights authorities for flights touching Europe, and a consumer advocate. Each step adds pressure and documentation. Understanding <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/how-consumer-complaints-work-guide/" rel="noopener">how the consumer complaint process works</a> can help you build an effective case.</p>
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    Readers split over who deserves the blame, debated whether the $19,354 business class ticket was excessive, and shared their own unaccompanied minor stories. Several offered practical fixes, from case numbers to clearer overnight-layover warnings.
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      How did the overnight layover go unnoticed?
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      <strong>Kelly Red</strong> said different arrival and departure dates are always highlighted on an itinerary and should have been caught. <strong>Brooklyn</strong> wondered if the 12-hour US clock versus Europe&#8217;s 24-hour format made it easy to misread a 14-hour gap as two hours.
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      Was a $19,354 business class ticket justified?
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      <strong>RightThisWay</strong> argued the agent should have offered economy and questioned the fare. <strong>Michelle S.</strong> countered it may have been the only seat left at that late date. <strong>Bruce Burger</strong> said he would insist on business class for a back-to-back Seattle-Amsterdam rescue too.
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      Practical fixes and don&#8217;t judge too fast
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      <strong>Barbara</strong> advised always getting a case number, since agents rarely use real names. <strong>Skp2MyLou</strong> pushed back on the pile-on, noting the parents got their kids home safely and documented enough to win reimbursement, so second-guessing is just keyboard warrior territory.
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        <li>When flights are delayed or canceled, airlines cover only &#8220;duty of care,&#8221; such as a meal voucher, a hotel, or a refund. Angela Justice received a $10 voucher after her Boston to Chicago flight was canceled.</li>
        <li>The real cost, the delay tax, includes nonrefundable hotels, lost wages, child care that keeps ticking, and the replacement flights travelers book themselves when the airline&#8217;s rescheduling timeline proves useless.</li>
        <li>Airlines calculate compensation based on what rescheduling costs them, not what missing the trip costs you. The law was written in a different era, and regulators have not caught up with chronic delays.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">A $10 voucher.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That’s what Angela Justice got after her recent flight from Boston to Chicago was delayed and then canceled.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Let’s be honest, that barely covers a bottle of water,&#8221; says Justice, a consultant who advises biotech executives.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But the true cost of an airline delay, or the delay tax, isn&#8217;t always about business class travelers missing high-stakes meetings. Sometimes it’s just people like you and me trying to hold together plans, budgets, and expectations in a system built to offer vouchers instead of accountability from airlines.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A <a href="https://newsroom.aaa.com/2026/05/45-million-americans-planning-memorial-day-weekend-getaways/">record 3.6 million passengers</a> were predicted to travel this Memorial Day weekend. Now more than ever, the cost of a delay is a calculation more airline passengers will have to make. And unfortunately, the airline industry&#8217;s numbers are wrong.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What is the delay tax?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about when I say &#8220;delay tax&#8221;: Nonrefundable hotels you can&#8217;t get to. The family wedding that ends before you land. Child care bills that keep ticking. Lost wages. The second flight you had to book yourself because the airline&#8217;s rescheduling timeline was useless.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">These are the real costs of a system that’s pushing every risk onto travelers.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The official story is simple. When flights get delayed, airlines cover &#8220;duty of care&#8221;, a meal voucher, maybe a hotel, or a refund if the flight gets canceled. The Department of Transportation (DOT) nods. Everyone acts like the problem is solved.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s not.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;When airlines talk about reasonable compensation, they refer to immediate, measurable costs, things like meal vouchers, hotel stays, or partial refunds,&#8221; explains Suzanne Morrow, CEO of <a href="https://www.insuremytrip.com/">InsureMyTrip</a>. &#8220;But those definitions exclude a wide range of real-world financial losses travelers face when delays disrupt their plans.&#8221;</p>



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      Two other things: If you are flying to some important event like a wedding, a cruise, or a business conference (as in the article), always plan to arrive a day early. If all goes well, enjoy an extra day at the destination. Go out and have a good time. If something goes wrong, you have a cushion.
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      Another valuable step is to get a credit card with excellent travel protections and use it when booking your flight. They are readily available, in some cases for under $100, and usually have many other benefits and bonuses.
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">When airline vouchers meet reality</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Cal Singh, who runs a financial services company in Vancouver, learned about the delay tax the hard way. A canceled flight from Toronto to New York cost his marketing team nearly $3,000 in expenses they couldn&#8217;t recover. The booth they&#8217;d assembled for a payments exposition was gone. The hotel night they&#8217;d booked? Forfeited. The express shipping they&#8217;d arranged? Nonrefundable.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Weeks of preparation can be lost by one delay,&#8221; Singh told me.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He&#8217;s rebuilt his entire travel operation around that lesson. Every business trip now includes backup flights, refundable bookings, and extra insurance. Because he learned what airlines don&#8217;t want you to know: They’re not in the business of making you whole. They&#8217;re in the business of getting you from point A to point B. Everything else is your problem.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s not just business travelers, of course. Donna Glass&#8217; experience with United tells the same story. Her recent flight from San Francisco to Orlando was delayed multiple times and then switched to a completely different aircraft. She arrived in Florida early the next morning, having spent more than 12 hours in the airport.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Her airline offered her two $15 food vouchers and 7,500 frequent-flyer miles.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We lost an entire day in Orlando,&#8221; Donna said. &#8220;The airline basically blew us off.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s the real question regulators refuse to ask: Is that fair?</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The compensation illusion</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When airlines talk about &#8220;reasonable compensation,&#8221; they&#8217;re working from a narrow playbook. The DOT focuses on immediate, basic costs like the price of your airfare. Europe goes further with its consumer protections, offering compensation for delays. But even the strictest rules exclude the real-world damage caused by delays.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Airlines are just following the law. But the law was written in a different era, when travel was simpler and airlines were more generous with their passengers. Now, delays are chronic and airlines are watching every penny. Regulators haven&#8217;t caught up.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Jacob Wedderburn-Day, CEO of Stasher, an airport luggage storage network, sees the ripple effects every day. He&#8217;s watched thousands of passengers absorb costs that go way beyond a meal voucher.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;The hidden costs are very high, and the passengers pay nearly all of them,&#8221; Wedderburn-Day said. &#8220;Airlines are basing fair compensation on their own operating expenses and regulatory requirements, rather than actual economic impact on travelers.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Maybe that&#8217;s the problem. The delay tax exists because airlines calculate compensation based on what it costs <em>them</em> to reschedule flights, not what it costs <em>you</em> to miss the reason you flew in the first place.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.tinleg.com/">TinLeg</a>, a travel insurance company, has the receipts: In 2025, the average payout was $388 per claim. The single biggest culprit was airline delays. TinLeg found nearly 28 percent of all claims were tied to flight delays, up from 26 percent in 2024.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Sometimes, airlines will voluntarily cover some of your expenses, such as toiletries or a change of clothes, to a point.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Even when airlines are generous, there&#8217;s a catch</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you can get an airline to compensate you for your expenses, which can happen, there&#8217;s a problem that customers create for themselves. Raymond Yorke at <a href="https://redpointtravelprotection.com/">Redpoint Resolutions</a> has watched travelers leave money on the table because they didn&#8217;t document everything.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;The travelers who get reimbursed quickest are almost always those who kept receipts, took photos, saved emails, and wrote down what happened, in real time,&#8221; Yorke says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A safer bet is to buy travel insurance, but you still have to keep your documentation for some claims. (With bigger travel insurance companies, flight delay claims are automatic and don&#8217;t require any documentation.)&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;A proper travel protection plan can fill the gap airlines won&#8217;t,&#8221; says Carlos Cividanes, vice president of business strategy and development at <a href="https://www.travelsafe.com/">TravelSafe Travel Insurance</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But even travel insurance won&#8217;t end the delay tax.</p>



<h2 id="h-what-needs-to-change" class="wp-block-heading">What needs to change?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Justice&#8217;s point about the cascading effects of delays is central to understanding why the current system is broken. It treats delays as isolated incidents affecting one person. But when you&#8217;re running a company, leading a team, or managing a critical life moment, a delay ripples outward.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Michal Strahilevitz, a professor of marketing at Saint Mary&#8217;s College of California who studies business ethics, thinks the whole compensation framework is backwards.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Airlines do not compensate passengers for pain, suffering, or emotional distress caused by delays,&#8221; she says. &#8220;But in an ideal world, they would at least try.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The data backs that up. <a href="https://www.airhelp.com/en/">AirHelp</a> surveyed Americans and found that 41 percent lost money on their last flight disruption. Meanwhile, 91 percent believe airlines should pay compensation for disruptions. And 84 percent of Americans would support an EU-style compensation model, one that actually accounts for losses.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Airlines need to be financially responsible for the total economic cost of delays that they incur, and not merely direct costs,&#8221; says Wedderburn-Day of Stasher. &#8220;There is no incentive yet to change because travelers all bear downstream costs. The model changes only when airlines start to experience the financial bite of chronic unreliability.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s true. Right now, airlines have no reason to operate more reliably because they don&#8217;t pay the true cost of delays. The expense is yours to bear. Until that changes, expect more delay taxes.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So here&#8217;s my advice: If you&#8217;re planning to fly, build redundancy into your bookings. Get insurance. And document everything. Because airlines aren&#8217;t going to make you whole. The system isn&#8217;t designed to.</p>



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				.ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a.ays-minimal-theme.choosing-poll input[type='radio']:checked + label.apm-label-with-bg span {					color: #999A9C;				    background-color: initial;				}                #ays-poll-container-400{                    width: 600px;                }                @media screen and (max-width: 768px){                    #ays-poll-container-400{                        width: 100%;                        max-width: 96%;                    }                }			.ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a div.apm-loading-gif .apm-loader{				display: flex;				justify-content: center;				align-items: center;				padding-top: 10px;			}			.ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a div.apm-loading-gif{				width: 100%;    			height: 100%;			}#ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a.box-apm .apm-choosing .ays_label_poll{                text-align: left;            }</style>        <script>            var dataCss = {                width: '100%',                fontSize: '16px',                padding: '10px',              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'0'		data-redirect-check = '0'        data-url-href = ''		data-href = ''		data-delay = '0'		data-id = '400'		data-res-rgba = '1'		data-percent-color = '#999A9C'        data-enable-top-animation = ''        data-top-animation-scroll = '100'        data-result-view = 'standart'        data-enable-social-links=''        data-avg=		><span class='ays_poll_passed_count'><i class='ays_poll_fas ays_poll_fa-users' aria-hidden='true'></i> 258</span><div class='ays_poll_cb_and_a'></div><div class='apm-title-box'><div>Should airlines that delay or cancel flights at high rates face financial penalties from regulators for chronic unreliability?</div></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a ays_question'></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a hideResults ays-poll-hide-result-box'></div><div class='apm-answers  '><input type='hidden' id='multivot_answer_count' value=''/>			                                        <div class='apm-choosing answer-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a '>			                    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</span>                                                        </label>			                                        </div>			                                    			                                        <div class='apm-choosing answer-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a '>			                                            <input type='radio' name='answer' id='radio-1-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a' value='883' autocomplete="off">			                                            <label for='radio-1-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b27c0a' data-answers-url='' 			                                            	class='ays_label_poll   ays_enable_hover   ' style=''>                                                            			                                                <span class='ays_grid_answer_span'>No </span><span class='ayspoll-answers-votes-count-before-voting' style='display:none;text-shadow: 0px 0px 5px rgba(0,0,0,0);'>12</span>                                                        <span 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      <p>The losses can be steep. One business owner reported losing nearly $3,000 his team could not recover after a single cancellation. Industry-wide, the average travel insurance payout in 2025 was $388 per claim, and nearly 28 percent of all claims were tied to flight delays. AirHelp found 41 percent of Americans lost money on their last flight disruption.</p>
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    Readers split sharply over how much airlines should owe. Many argued for personal responsibility and smarter planning, several pushed for an EU-style compensation law, and others shared clever ways to build a free safety net into their own bookings.
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      Where does personal responsibility end?
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      <strong>elbee</strong> argued delays are foreseeable and travelers should build in contingencies, warning that making airlines pay for everything raises costs for all. <strong>R Fi</strong> asked why airlines owe missed meetings or wages when a traffic jam earns no compensation. <strong>George Schulman</strong> noted breach of contract does not cover emotional distress.
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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/simple-minimal-hand-drawn-editorial-cart_NhF9uNgTWcmumhQP0Mk-4w_IDBiIi3uQ-awKpOcn7tUzA_cover_hd-300x200.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Fear of travel is at a high, but the data tells a different story. Here&#039;s why your summer vacation is still a safe bet, from peace rankings to airline risk." style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/simple-minimal-hand-drawn-editorial-cart_NhF9uNgTWcmumhQP0Mk-4w_IDBiIi3uQ-awKpOcn7tUzA_cover_hd-300x200.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/simple-minimal-hand-drawn-editorial-cart_NhF9uNgTWcmumhQP0Mk-4w_IDBiIi3uQ-awKpOcn7tUzA_cover_hd-1200x800.png 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/simple-minimal-hand-drawn-editorial-cart_NhF9uNgTWcmumhQP0Mk-4w_IDBiIi3uQ-awKpOcn7tUzA_cover_hd-150x100.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/simple-minimal-hand-drawn-editorial-cart_NhF9uNgTWcmumhQP0Mk-4w_IDBiIi3uQ-awKpOcn7tUzA_cover_hd-768x512.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/simple-minimal-hand-drawn-editorial-cart_NhF9uNgTWcmumhQP0Mk-4w_IDBiIi3uQ-awKpOcn7tUzA_cover_hd.png 1248w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>Fear of travel is running high this summer. A reader named Cindy Smith nearly canceled a Danube river cruise and a week in Croatia after reading headlines about a cruise hantavirus outbreak and crew arrests. She is not alone. In a recent Global Rescue survey, less than 1 percent of respondents said their concerns about personal safety abroad had eased since last year, while 56 percent said they felt more concerned. Travelers cite three recurring fears: airlines collapsing mid-trip, dangerous conditions abroad, and anti-American sentiment. Yet the major U.S. carriers such as Delta, United, American, and Southwest remain profitable, and a conflict on one side of a continent does not make the other side unsafe.]]></description>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">Cindy Smith is afraid to travel. </p>



<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">She and her husband have saved for the trip of a lifetime, a Danube river cruise in September, followed by a week in Croatia. Then she heard about the hantavirus outbreak on a recent cruise and the arrests of crew members for possession of child sexual abuse material. And she started having second thoughts.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Would you cancel this trip?&#8221; she asked.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Smith isn&#8217;t alone. Less than 1 percent of respondents to <a href="https://www.globalrescue.com/common/blog/detail/virtually-no-international-travelers-feel-safer-in-2026/">a recent survey by Global Rescue</a> (in other words, almost no one) said their concerns about personal safety abroad have abated since last year. A slim majority (56 percent) said they&#8217;re more concerned, and the rest said nothing changed. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I get a version of Smith&#8217;s email every day, and they all share a new kind of dread. Travelers aren&#8217;t asking me how to plan a trip. They&#8217;re asking permission <em>not</em> to take one. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Call it the summer of fear, the rolling, low-grade panic that sets in between booking a vacation and boarding the plane, fed by headlines, group chats and one too many late-night doomscrolls.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">They&#8217;re worried about airline bankruptcies and unsafe travel conditions. And they think everyone hates them. Let&#8217;s go through each one of these fears.</p>



<h3 id="h-my-airline-is-going-to-go-bankrupt-mid-trip" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>&#8220;My airline is going to go bankrupt mid-trip&#8221;</strong></h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Spirit&#8217;s recent collapse spooked everybody. I wrote a <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/spirit-airlines-death-shows-why-we-need-better-passenger-protections/">commentary calling for new passenger protections</a> because the federal safety net for stranded passengers is hopelessly broken.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But a broken safety net is not the same thing as &#8220;every airline is about to fold.&#8221;&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Delta, United, American and Southwest are not Spirit. The big carriers are still profitable. The ultra-low-cost carriers, the bare-bones airlines like Frontier and Allegiant, are the ones to watch. If you booked one of them for summer, buy a real travel insurance policy, pay with a credit card and stop worrying.</p>



<h3 id="h-it-s-too-dangerous-to-travel" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>&#8220;It&#8217;s too dangerous to travel&#8221;</strong></h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Geopolitical anxiety can have a ripple effect across a map. A conflict on one side of a continent does not make the other side dangerous, but travelers conflate them anyway.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I&#8217;ve heard from readers who backed out of their vacation in Portugal because of the war in Ukraine. That&#8217;s more than 2,000 miles away. Think of it as canceling your trip to Los Angeles because of something happening in Boston.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s a little perspective. The Institute for Economics and Peace publishes an annual <a href="https://www.economicsandpeace.org/global-peace-index/">Global Peace Index</a>, measuring countries across several safety, conflict and militarization indicators. The United States ranked an unimpressive 128th out of 163 countries in its latest edition, behind South Africa, Kenya and Uganda. The countries along Smith&#8217;s Danube route (Austria, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia) all ranked dozens of places ahead of us. Austria came in fourth.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So when you cancel a European vacation out of safety concerns and stay home instead, you&#8217;re moving in the wrong direction. The State Department posts country-specific advisories with the real trouble spots. Truth is, the world is bigger and safer than your news feed makes it look, and parts of it are safer than your own neighborhood.</p>



<h3 id="h-everyone-hates-american-tourists" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>&#8220;Everyone hates American tourists&#8221;</strong></h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I&#8217;ve spent most of the past year living outside the United States, including stretches in cities that have made the protest-against-tourists headlines. Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve observed, in person, in cafés and on trains and at hotel front desks from Barcelona to Sydney: nothing. Not a sneer, not a cold shoulder, not even a muttered comment.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The anti-American protests are aimed at policy: short-term rentals hollowing out neighborhoods, cruise ship crowds overwhelming small ports, housing costs nobody can afford, and, of course, U.S. politics. The protests aren&#8217;t aimed at the polite American couple looking for the cathedral.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Be a decent guest, learn &#8220;please&#8221; and &#8220;thank you&#8221; in the local language, and you&#8217;ll be fine.&nbsp;</p>



<h3 id="h-the-price-of-being-afraid" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>The price of being afraid</strong></h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">These fears may be irrational, but they have a cost.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Every traveler who cancels a paid-up trip out of vague dread loses money. Every traveler who sits at home instead of boarding the plane loses the trip itself: the meals, the conversations, the photos.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The world in 2026 is no more dangerous than it was in 2016. By most measures, it&#8217;s less so. What&#8217;s changed is the volume of the noise around you.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Which brings me back to Smith.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">No, Cindy, don&#8217;t cancel. Your ship is safe, and so is your route. Go. Eat the schnitzel. See Croatia. Don&#8217;t forget to send me a postcard.</p>



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'0'		data-redirect-check = '0'        data-url-href = ''		data-href = ''		data-delay = '0'		data-id = '399'		data-res-rgba = '1'		data-percent-color = '#999A9C'        data-enable-top-animation = ''        data-top-animation-scroll = '100'        data-result-view = 'standart'        data-enable-social-links=''        data-avg=		><span class='ays_poll_passed_count'><i class='ays_poll_fas ays_poll_fa-users' aria-hidden='true'></i> 105</span><div class='ays_poll_cb_and_a'></div><div class='apm-title-box'><div>What scares you the most this summer?</div></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b28748 ays_question'></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b28748 hideResults ays-poll-hide-result-box'></div><div class='apm-answers  '><input type='hidden' id='multivot_answer_count' value=''/>			                                        <div class='apm-choosing answer-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b28748 '>			                                            <input type='radio' name='answer' 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  <p class="voice-matters-intro">Travelers often face expensive choices after frightening headlines, even when the actual risk to their itinerary is unclear. This story raises questions about what suppliers, insurers and public agencies should disclose before fear becomes a cancellation decision.</p>
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      <p>Every traveler who cancels a paid-up trip out of vague dread loses money, and often the trip itself, including the meals, conversations, and memories. If something does go wrong on a trip, knowing <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/how-consumer-complaints-work-guide/" rel="noopener">how the consumer complaint process works</a> can help you recover far more than canceling preemptively would.</p>
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    Frequent travelers overwhelmingly backed the article&#8217;s message, sharing that the anti-American hostility they feared never materialized. Several were pressing ahead with cruises and river trips, while others weighed practical concerns over headline-driven dread.
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      Locals separate American travelers from US politics
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      <strong>KanExplore</strong> travels abroad often and has met curiosity about American politics but never personal hostility. <strong>Sam Phillips Gershenfeld</strong>, a roaming expat for nearly two years across the Middle East, Australia, and Europe, encountered only bewildered curiosity and consistent courtesy.
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      Life is too short to run scared
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      <strong>Retiredfed Wisconsin</strong> recalled 40 people canceling a Poland group trip over the war in Ukraine, arguing the odds of being caught in military action or an outbreak are minuscule. <strong>Matthew W</strong> noted there has never been a threat-free era and said to just enjoy.
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">Don&#8217;t look now, but summer travel intent has hit its lowest point since the pandemic because of rising travel costs. It&#8217;s affecting some travelers more than others, and that&#8217;s a story you won&#8217;t hear anywhere else.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Deloitte&#8217;s latest summer travel survey has the numbers: Only 45 percent of travelers surveyed are planning a summer vacation with paid lodging this year, the lowest number in six years.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Travel is down across every income bracket, but the drop among households earning under $100,000 is twice as steep as the decline among middle and high-income earners, an 8-point drop versus 4 points each.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But the travelers who are still going plan to spend $4,069 on their summer vacations, up 17 percent from last year.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In other words, the rich are going on vacation and spending more; the not-so-rich, well, not so much.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="h-is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-american-summer-vacation">Is this the beginning of the end of the American summer vacation?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When it comes to vacations, there&#8217;s always been a class divide. One half takes a road trip, the other a luxury cruise. One goes camping, the other glamping. Nothing wrong with that.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But when one half stops traveling <em>entirely</em>, that&#8217;s a problem. And not just for the travel industry, which is watching one of its most important markets ground itself. This also affects travelers themselves, who miss out on an essential summer ritual that lets them recharge their batteries and spend time with friends and family.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If this trend continues, with the &#8220;haves&#8221; taking ever-pricier summer vacations and the &#8220;have-nots&#8221; staying home, it would be bad for everyone. Affordable travel is one of the backbones of the American travel experience.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What&#8217;s happening is obvious. Yes, economic worries are keeping people from taking a trip, but the biggest economic deterrent is the price of a vacation. Higher energy costs and a relentless need to increase shareholder value have pushed rates and fares higher, beyond the reach of the average traveler.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="h-what-the-travel-industry-says-about-rising-vacation-costs">What the travel industry says about rising vacation costs</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Hotels and airlines argue that high-net-worth travelers want longer stays, full-service properties, and elevated amenities, and that catering to those customers funds investment in service standards and infrastructure.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Deloitte&#8217;s broader 2026 outlook calls it a &#8220;bifurcation&#8221; of standard and luxury and frames competition for the high-spending traveler as one of the year&#8217;s defining trends. The official line is that this is modernization, not abandonment.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But the travel industry may regret this restructuring. The value travel segment is a vital part of the travel ecosystem, and turning your back on it could be disastrous.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="h-how-to-find-affordable-summer-travel-deals">How to find affordable summer travel deals</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The good news is that the same forces hollowing out the market are creating cracks you can travel through.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Travelers earning between $100,000 and $199,000 are showing the biggest booking gap, with 37 percent fully booked versus 45 percent last year. That&#8217;s a lot of empty inventory in late May, and revenue managers know it.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But you won&#8217;t see those cuts on Expedia. The big booking sites are designed to protect rate parity for their hotel partners, and the airlines have learned to hide their distressed inventory. The deals are out there, they&#8217;re just moving through different doors this year.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Four things can land you a deal that&#8217;s more than affordable this summer:&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Call the hotel directly. </strong>&nbsp;Skip the 800 number. Ask the manager on duty what they can do that the website can&#8217;t—maybe a 15 to 25 percent midweek discount with parking included.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Wait longer than feels comfortable.</strong> Since the squeeze on suppliers gets worse as the season drags on, good things come to those who wait.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Find the small operator.</strong> Family-run inns, independent guides, owner-operated charters. Most will negotiate by email.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Also, consider a road trip</strong>. Driving vacations are off to a strong start this weekend, but research suggests they&#8217;ll taper off as the summer gets underway. Planned road trips are down to 66 percent of travelers, from 71 percent last year, which means a lot of Americans have written off driving. That&#8217;s an opportunity for a more affordable summer vacation.</p>



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      That depends on how you roll. Do you use a travel agent, book packages, fine dining every night? Last summer my 15-day trip through Italy, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary and Austria cost me about $2,700, including lodging, rental car, fuel, food, and minimal souvenirs. I used an AA mileage redemption from PHL to VCE for 54,000 miles plus $59 for the round trip, non-stop flights.
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      Not sure where I&#8217;m going yet this year. Probably back to Japan because the USD is super strong against the Yen. Plus gasoline is super expensive in Europe right now, and I rely on trains in Japan instead of a rental car.
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'0'		data-redirect-check = '0'        data-url-href = ''		data-href = ''		data-delay = '0'		data-id = '398'		data-res-rgba = '1'		data-percent-color = '#999A9C'        data-enable-top-animation = ''        data-top-animation-scroll = '100'        data-result-view = 'standart'        data-enable-social-links=''        data-avg=		><span class='ays_poll_passed_count'><i class='ays_poll_fas ays_poll_fa-users' aria-hidden='true'></i> 189</span><div class='ays_poll_cb_and_a'></div><div class='apm-title-box'><div>Can you afford a vacation this summer?</div></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b292a9 ays_question'></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b292a9 hideResults ays-poll-hide-result-box'></div><div class='apm-answers  '><input type='hidden' id='multivot_answer_count' value=''/>			                                        <div class='apm-choosing answer-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b292a9 '>			                                            <input type='radio' name='answer' id='radio-0-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b292a9' value='877' autocomplete="off">			                                            <label for='radio-0-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b292a9' data-answers-url='' 			                                            	class='ays_label_poll   ays_enable_hover   ' style=''>                                                            			                                                <span class='ays_grid_answer_span'>Yes, I'm traveling</span><span class='ayspoll-answers-votes-count-before-voting' style='display:none;text-shadow: 0px 0px 5px rgba(0,0,0,0);'>115</span>                                                        <span class='ayspoll-answers-votes-count-before-voting-width' style='display:none;text-shadow: 0px 0px 5px rgba(0,0,0,0);'>                                                            <span style='width: 60.8%; background-color:rgba( 66,66,66,0.3 );'></span>                                                        </span>                                         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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And a few follow-up questions:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you said yes:</p>



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<li>Did you book through a major site, or did you go direct to the property?</li>



<li>Are you spending more, less, or about the same as last summer?</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you said no:</p>



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<li>Was it the airfare, the lodging, or the total trip cost that pushed you out?</li>



<li>Would a 20 percent discount on lodging change your mind, or are you done with the math entirely?</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>My take</strong>: The industry has picked its customer, and it isn&#8217;t the family in the minivan. I&#8217;m not bothered by the luxury part. It&#8217;s the abandonment of the middle class, and the way the industry has stopped pretending to care.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Your turn</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Is the middle-class family vacation finished, or have you found a way around the pricing wall this summer? Tell me in the comments.</p>



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      Booking direct and better mileage soften the squeeze
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        <li>From a waterfront tower built with unlikely materials to nature stays that deliberately slow guests down, the region offers a closer look at what green travel can become when it is treated as a long-term investment.</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And this one is <em>all</em> about practicality. It&#8217;s not just any skyscraper. This one, built last year in the port district of Sydhavnen, is made of wood and recycled material. In fact, it is Denmark&#8217;s tallest wooden building.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">TRÆ is Lendager&#8217;s creation, inspired by the climate crisis and years of pushing the limits of what you can, and can&#8217;t, reuse in a building.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We wanted to show what is possible,&#8221; says Lendager, who runs his <a href="https://lendager.com/">eponymous Danish-Icelandic architecture firm</a>.</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Denmark&#8217;s second city has moved beyond aspirational climate goals. It has internalized the Nordic sensibility that security, safety, and high quality of life are inseparable from environmental integrity.&nbsp;</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here are some of the city&#8217;s sustainability highlights:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Climate target</strong>: The overriding objective of the climate plan is achieving carbon neutrality by 2030.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Energy transition</strong>: The city phased out coal energy a decade ago and is switching to geothermal heating.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Waste as a resource</strong>: Waste is integrated into the city&#8217;s energy supply, with the municipal incinerator facility burning around 42 percent of collected waste to produce electricity and warm water, supplying 16 percent of the heat consumed by the district heating system. Only about 2 percent of waste ends up as landfill.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Green shipping incentives</strong>: The Port of Aarhus established Denmark&#8217;s first shore power facility for cruise ships in 2023, allowing docked ships to connect to green electricity from Danish wind turbines.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But to really see how sustainable Aarhus has become, you have to visit. This region offers everything from climate-change-proof streets to back-to-nature accommodations. And its sustainability leaders have an important message for anyone who will listen.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Integrating history and climate adaptation in Randers</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img decoding="async" width="1200" height="800" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54834915826_8c5c90fc84_k-1200x800.jpg" alt="An artificial lake in Randers, part of the city's rainwater management system" class="wp-image-151724" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54834915826_8c5c90fc84_k-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54834915826_8c5c90fc84_k-300x200.jpg 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54834915826_8c5c90fc84_k-150x100.jpg 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54834915826_8c5c90fc84_k-768x512.jpg 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54834915826_8c5c90fc84_k-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54834915826_8c5c90fc84_k.jpg 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>An artificial lake in Randers, part of the city&#8217;s ambitious rainwater management system. (Photo by Aren Elliott.)</em></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It turns out the Aarhus region has a rich history of sustainability. In nearby Randers, a town that showcases 400-year-old half-timbered houses, cobblestone streets and factories turned into cafés, sustainability has been built directly into the streets.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Randers has developed sophisticated rainwater management systems,&#8221; explains Kristiina Hansen-Götze, a city guide.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Why? Randers has adapted to climate change, which projects more intense rainfall and rising sea levels. The new systems, built over the last decade, are designed to work with, not against, the rising tide.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Hansen-Götze emphasized that they intentionally designed them so that the solutions don&#8217;t look like something made to prevent flooding. She says so far, the new drainage system, which is still being tested, has worked well by protecting the town from potentially devastating floods even during heavy rains.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For visitors, this means they can enjoy Randers&#8217; gift shops, restaurants and cafés without having to wade through puddles. In the long term, it will also ensure the city doesn&#8217;t wash away.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;And the system looks beautiful, like it was always meant to be here,&#8221; she adds.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That sense of form and function extends to the region&#8217;s hotels.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The premium of Nordic wellness and culture</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img decoding="async" width="1200" height="800" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809292336_aecb04dcde_o-2-1200x800.jpg" alt="Jesper Buus, a district director for Scandic Hotels, on the construction site of Bassin Seven" class="wp-image-151725" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809292336_aecb04dcde_o-2-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809292336_aecb04dcde_o-2-300x200.jpg 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809292336_aecb04dcde_o-2-150x100.jpg 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809292336_aecb04dcde_o-2-768x512.jpg 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809292336_aecb04dcde_o-2-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809292336_aecb04dcde_o-2-2048x1365.jpg 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>Jesper Buus, a district director for Scandic Hotels, on the construction site of Bassin Seven, his newest hotel. (Photo by Aren Elliott.)</em></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This focus on core values like safety, health, and the environment has become the foundation of the local tourism and hospitality sector, allowing it to command a premium internationally. Anne Hübner, a spokeswoman for <a href="https://www.visitaarhus.dk/">Visit Aarhus</a>, says the city&#8217;s quality of life is driven by security, safety, and trust, values that score highly on the <a href="https://www.worldhappiness.report/">happiest citizens index</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;It&#8217;s one of the reasons people want to visit Aarhus, to experience this for themselves,&#8221; she says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.scandichotels.com/da">Scandic Hotels</a>, one of the largest hotel chains in the region, is capitalizing on this expectation. Jesper Buus, a district director of Scandic, says that the chain, including the Scandic Aarhus City, has doubled down on the service and amenities people expect from a Nordic hotel. Almost all Scandic hotels meet the Nordic Swan Ecolabel&#8217;s standards for energy efficiency, water consumption and waste management.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Sustainability is such an integrated part of Scandic that we sometimes take what we do for granted,” he admits. Recycling, solar panels, and even on-site beehives were all incorporated into the hotel&#8217;s design.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Buus says one of the misconceptions about sustainability is that it means guests have to sacrifice service or amenities. But they don&#8217;t here, and there may be no better answer than Scandic&#8217;s latest project, a new Signature-branded hotel called Bassin Seven currently under construction near Aarhus&#8217; port.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Buus says the new hotel structure reflects the changing demands of travelers who want a wellness experience, and will feature a large spa that, true to Scandic&#8217;s other hotels, will be true to its Nordic values.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He says the understated experience, modern architecture with light wood and a minimalist sensibility along with a line of authentic local experiences, is in high demand. It is just one part of the sustainability puzzle in Aarhus. But to get another perspective from the hospitality industry, you have to drive into one of Denmark&#8217;s famous national parks.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Authentic disconnection in Mols Bjerge</h2>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><em>A yurt in Mols Bjerge National Park. (Photo by Aren Elliott.)</em><br></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The dedication to authentic environmental practice reaches deep into the idyllic Danish countryside. In the rural setting of Mols Bjerge National Park, Bjørn Haugum operates <a href="https://www.bjornenibjergene.com/">a glamping site</a> using yurts that capture the concept of <em>friluftsliv</em>, or living outdoors.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Haugum’s philosophy emphasizes simple living, returning to the &#8220;basics of life&#8221; by focusing on sleeping, physical activity, foraging for food, and keeping warm. But to ensure guests truly disconnect and reflect, Haugum has introduced deliberate friction.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Guests have to park in a public parking spot about a half mile away and walk to their yurt, packing only necessary supplies. This enforced slowdown ensures they are prepared for an outdoor adventure and pack only what they need.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The actual accommodations are simple yurts with open fireplaces that push guests to disconnect from their electronic devices and reconnect with each other, and nature itself.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We actually don&#8217;t use terms like carbon-neutral when we describe what we do, because there&#8217;s been so much greenwashing,&#8221; Haugum adds. &#8220;We&#8217;d rather walk the walk. We want to inspire people, not lecture to them about their environmental commitments.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The operation supports local communities by sourcing from nearby producers, such as buying fruit wines from local vendors. Haugum and his wife say they want to keep this project small and exclusive, focusing on guests who share their vision of living outdoors.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But Haugum says he wants to add one more thing to his property. The rolling hills of northern Denmark may have inspired J.R.R. Tolkien when he wrote <em>The Hobbit</em>, and Haugum would like to build a Hobbit house on his property. He hopes to reach the Tolkien tourists who come to this area with his message of <em>friluftsliv.</em></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We probably won&#8217;t be able to call it a Hobbit house, because of copyright issues,&#8221; he says. &#8220;But it will be great.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">One thing is certain: A Hobbit house will be the ultimate green accommodation. But it won&#8217;t be the only one.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The architect who made trash a commodity</h2>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img decoding="async" width="1200" height="800" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809278461_a67f52617b_k-1200x800.jpg" alt="TRAE, a 20-story wooden skyscraper in Aarhus, Denmark designed by Anders Lendager" class="wp-image-151727" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809278461_a67f52617b_k-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809278461_a67f52617b_k-300x200.jpg 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809278461_a67f52617b_k-150x100.jpg 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809278461_a67f52617b_k-768x512.jpg 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809278461_a67f52617b_k-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/54809278461_a67f52617b_k.jpg 2048w" sizes="(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Lendager, the architect who built the wooden high-rise in Aarhus, is on a mission to change the way people build in Denmark. He says architects must learn to design within their limits, and that means viewing discarded materials as valuable assets. He hopes TRÆ can show others that this philosophy is financially robust, scalable, and, most importantly, sustainable.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Lendager recalls that the client, a large pension fund, initially sought to compensate tenants for the risk associated with innovation by reducing rent to 1.5 percent below the market rate.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The project drew so much attention that the client instead went the other way, adding 25 percent to the rent prices.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;It&#8217;s priced like a premium product,&#8221; he says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Demand was overwhelming.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Everything was leased out before we started building,&#8221; he says.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">What&#8217;s the appeal? Well, almost <em>everything</em> is sustainable. Lendager collected the aluminum panels cladding the exterior from several sources, including farms, old mailboxes and the roof of a demolished building.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Lendager detailed the startling economic impact: The panels cost just $10,000 for the whole building, which he estimated was approximately dramatically cheaper than using traditional materials.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The hardest part of the project was the solar shades for the building, which are made from the fiberglass of discarded wind turbine blades. Upon reaching the end of their service life, these blades typically end up in landfills. By developing a process to cut these composites into building elements, Lendager&#8217;s company slashed the project&#8217;s carbon dioxide footprint when compared to using an aluminum or motorized system.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For Lendager, this innovative sourcing means that design should follow availability, not form.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Architecture is moving away from temples that manifest man&#8217;s dominance over nature and toward structures that are more cooperative and show gratitude to Earth,&#8221; he says.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">A long-term investment in sustainability</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The sustainable narrative emerging from Aarhus isn&#8217;t one of sacrifice or mandated austerity. It&#8217;s a pragmatic recognition that high quality of life, from the integrity of the architecture you inhabit to the water you drink and the nature you enjoy, is a premium product that requires long-term investment.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The goal here isn&#8217;t simply to avoid environmental disaster; it’s to build a desirable, higher-value reality.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It is not an easy path, and it is not cheap. Denmark&#8217;s sustainability investments are supported by the country&#8217;s high taxes, and Aarhus is by no means a bargain destination. But if you want to see a region that is transforming itself into a truly sustainable destination, there may be no better place in the world to visit. For other destinations, a sustainable path may be an attractive way forward, but for Aarhus, it is the only way.</p>



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  <h2 id="faq-heading">What you need to know about sustainable travel to Aarhus, Denmark</h2>

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    <summary>What makes Aarhus one of the most sustainable cities in the world?</summary>
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      <p>Aarhus is pursuing carbon neutrality by 2030. The city phased out coal energy a decade ago and is switching to geothermal heating. Its waste system sends only about 2 percent of collected waste to landfill, with the municipal incinerator burning around 42 percent to produce electricity and warm water that supplies 16 percent of the district heating system. The Port of Aarhus also built Denmark&#8217;s first cruise ship shore power facility in 2023.</p>
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    <summary>What is the TRÆ wooden skyscraper in Aarhus?</summary>
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      <p>TRÆ is Denmark&#8217;s tallest wooden building, a 20-story tower in the Sydhavnen port district designed by architect Anders Lendager. It is built from wood and recycled materials, including exterior aluminum panels reclaimed from farms, old mailboxes, and a demolished building&#8217;s roof for just $10,000. The solar shades are made from the fiberglass of discarded wind turbine blades that would otherwise end up in landfills.</p>
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    <summary>Is Aarhus an expensive destination to visit?</summary>
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      <p>Aarhus is not a bargain destination. Denmark&#8217;s sustainability investments are supported by the country&#8217;s high taxes, and the region commands a premium for its quality of life, hotels, and experiences. Travelers should budget for higher costs than many other European destinations. The tradeoff is access to a region that treats environmental integrity, safety, and quality of life as inseparable parts of a premium experience.</p>
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    <summary>What sustainable hotels are available in Aarhus?</summary>
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      <p>Scandic Hotels operates several properties in the region, including the Scandic Aarhus City, with almost all meeting the Nordic Swan Ecolabel standards for energy efficiency, water consumption, and waste management. Features include solar panels, recycling programs, and on-site beehives. Scandic is also building a new Signature-branded wellness hotel called Bassin Seven near the Aarhus port that will feature a large spa with Nordic minimalist design.</p>
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    <summary>What is friluftsliv and where can you experience it near Aarhus?</summary>
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      <p>Friluftsliv is a Nordic concept meaning living outdoors. In Mols Bjerge National Park, a glamping operation offers yurts with open fireplaces that emphasize simple living through sleeping, physical activity, foraging, and keeping warm. Guests park half a mile away and walk in, packing only necessities, a deliberate friction designed to help them disconnect from electronic devices and reconnect with nature and each other.</p>
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    <summary>How has Randers adapted to climate change for visitors?</summary>
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      <p>Randers, a town with 400-year-old half-timbered houses and cobblestone streets, has built sophisticated rainwater management systems over the last decade. They are intentionally designed so they do not look like flood-prevention infrastructure, blending seamlessly into the historic streetscape. The systems protect the town from devastating floods during heavy rains, letting visitors enjoy the gift shops, restaurants, and cafés without wading through puddles.</p>
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    <summary>How do you get to Aarhus, Denmark?</summary>
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      <p>Aarhus is Denmark&#8217;s second-largest city, located on the Jutland peninsula. Travelers typically fly into Aarhus Airport or Billund Airport, or connect through Copenhagen and take a train across the country. The Port of Aarhus also receives cruise ships and now offers green shore power. For trip planning and travel insurance considerations, see Elliott Advocacy&#8217;s <a href="https://www.elliott.org/safe-travels/everything-you-need-to-know-about-buying-travel-insurance-for-the-holiday-travel-season/" rel="noopener">guide to travel insurance</a>.</p>
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    Readers were struck by the circular-design engineering behind the wooden skyscraper, while a lively exchange broke out over whether American taxpayers would ever accept the high-tax model that funds Denmark&#8217;s approach.
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      Repurposing wind turbine blades proves circular design works
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      <strong>Blues Traveler</strong> called the reuse of discarded turbine blades for solar shades brilliant, noting the wind sector struggles to dispose of retired blades. That a pension fund could raise the rent rather than discount it, he argued, shows the market is ready.
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      Can American taxpayers stomach the high-tax model?
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      <strong>Gerri Hether</strong> argued that US taxes already fail to cover healthcare, childcare, or basic consumer welfare, so adding environmental taxes does nothing to help average families afford groceries, rent, or coverage today.
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      In Denmark, that tradeoff is taken for granted
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      <strong>Christopher Elliott</strong> responded that raising the same concern with the Danes draws a baffled look. To them it is inconceivable that a government would not cover healthcare, childcare, and similar needs in the first place.
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		<title>Help! StubHub&#8217;s confusing ticket return policy cost me $1,176</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/No-Show-300x200.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Editorial cartoon of a disappointed woman with shoulder-length hair resting her chin on her hand while holding up a smartphone showing the orange StubHub app, seated at a table against a pink wall with a vintage-style concert poster for The Lumineers hanging on the wall behind her, illustrating a frustrated concertgoer who received the wrong tickets and struggled to get a refund through StubHub&#039;s confusing return policy" style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/No-Show-300x200.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/No-Show-1200x800.png 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/No-Show-150x100.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/No-Show-768x512.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/No-Show.png 1248w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>Sharon McMonagle paid $1,176 for four club section tickets to a Lumineers concert through StubHub. The confirmation email included no seat numbers, and the day before the show StubHub sent tickets for a completely different section with no club access. StubHub asked her to accept the wrong tickets and transfer them back, which she feared would lock her into ownership. An agent told her to send a screenshot proving she had not accepted the tickets. After 45 days, StubHub said she would receive nothing because she had not returned the tickets through Ticketmaster, tickets she never accepted in the first place. StubHub advertises a FanProtect Guarantee promising that buyers who do not receive the tickets they ordered will get comparable replacements or a full refund.]]></description>
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        <li>Sharon McMonagle paid $1,176 for four club section tickets to a Lumineers concert through StubHub. The confirmation email had no seat numbers, and the day before the show StubHub sent tickets for a completely different section with no club access.</li>
        <li>StubHub asked her to accept the wrong tickets and transfer them back, which she feared would lock her in. An agent told her to send a screenshot proving she had not accepted them, which she did.</li>
        <li>After 45 days, StubHub said she would get nothing because she had not returned tickets through Ticketmaster, tickets she never accepted in the first place. StubHub advertises a FanProtect Guarantee promising replacements or a full refund.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><em>Sharon McMonagle orders $1,176 in club seats for a Lumineers concert, but StubHub sends her tickets for seats in a completely different section the day before the show. The company promises a refund, then reverses course and refuses to pay. Can she get her money back?</em></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I bought four tickets to see The Lumineers in concert for $1,176 a few months ago. I specifically ordered club section seats through StubHub. But something felt wrong immediately. The confirmation email didn&#8217;t include any seat numbers, which seemed suspicious. I disputed the charge with my credit card company, but because the concert wasn&#8217;t scheduled for a few months, my credit card denied my dispute.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Fast forward to the day before the concert. StubHub finally sent me four tickets. But they were in a completely different section, with no club access whatsoever. I called customer service right away. The agent told me there were no alternative tickets available.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s where it gets complicated: StubHub asked me to accept the wrong tickets and then transfer them back. I told the agent I was in a no-win situation. If I accepted the tickets, StubHub would consider them mine and I&#8217;d be stuck with them. The agent seemed to understand my concern and told me to send a screenshot proving I hadn&#8217;t accepted the tickets, which I did.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Then I received an email from StubHub saying it would help me with a refund. I thought the problem was solved. But when I called back the following week, a StubHub representative said they had 45 days to process my refund. After waiting the full 45 days with no refund, I called again. This time, a customer service representative told me that since I hadn&#8217;t returned the tickets, I wouldn&#8217;t get a refund.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I explained that I&#8217;d followed the agent&#8217;s instructions and sent the screenshot. But StubHub suddenly claimed I should have followed different return instructions from an earlier email that told me to transfer the tickets back from my Ticketmaster account. The problem? I never accepted the tickets into my Ticketmaster account in the first place, so there was nothing to transfer back. The whole situation feels like a carefully designed trap.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">StubHub advertises its FanProtect Guarantee, which promises buyers will receive the tickets they ordered or comparable replacements, or get a full refund. I got none of those things. Can you help me get my $1,176 back? — <strong>Sharon McMonagle</strong>, <em>Louisville, Colo.</em></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">StubHub should have refunded your money immediately, as promised.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Its FanProtect Guarantee is crystal clear. If you don&#8217;t receive the tickets you ordered, the company promises comparable replacements or will issue a full refund. You ordered club section seats. You received tickets to a completely different section.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">StubHub created the confusion here. Its customer service agents gave you conflicting instructions about how to return the tickets. One agent told you to send a screenshot proving you hadn&#8217;t accepted them. Another email said you needed to transfer tickets back through Ticketmaster — tickets you never accepted in the first place. Then a third representative promised you a refund. No wonder you were confused.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You did almost everything right. You contacted StubHub immediately when you realized something was wrong with your order. You called customer service the day before the concert when you received the wrong tickets. You followed the agent&#8217;s instructions and sent the requested screenshot. You kept excellent records of every interaction.</p>



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      Your success rate I surmise is a lot higher than anyone else&#8217;s due to your reputation (do members of the public get a 25% bonus? Likely not), but the reddit stubhub group has a significant number of these same complaints regularly and many people are at their wit&#8217;s end since they had no tickets and were out thousands of dollars with no recourse.
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      I also read people convey that they followed the dispute resolution terms only to have their mail returned to sender or refused even though it was the official designated address in stubhub&#8217;s terms and conditions.
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      Maybe as a publicly traded company they will try to be better, but personally I would never purchase or sell tickets ever again on StubHub, though I had many times in both capacities in the past. I think the resale platform on Ticketmaster or similar is more reliable.
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I say &#8220;almost&#8221; because I wouldn&#8217;t have filed a credit card dispute. There was no way to know if the transaction was fraudulent until the day of the show.&nbsp;(<strong>Related</strong>: <a href="https://www.elliott.org/problem-solved/stubhub-canceled-my-tickets-and-gave-me-worse-seats-what-about-the-fanprotect-guarantee/">StubHub FanProtect guarantee failed. Here&#8217;s how one buyer fought back</a>.)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I would have also escalated your complaint to a StubHub executive sooner. I publish a list of <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/stubhub/">StubHub executive contacts</a> on my consumer advocacy site, Elliott.org. A brief, polite email to one of these executives with your paper trail attached often cuts through the customer service red tape.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This isn&#8217;t the first time I&#8217;ve seen StubHub&#8217;s ticket return process trap consumers in an impossible situation. I recently helped another reader who received tickets for the wrong date to <a href="https://www.elliott.org/advocacy/hey-stubhub-these-taylor-swift-tickets-are-for-the-wrong-date/">a Taylor Swift concert</a>. And I&#8217;ve mediated several cases where StubHub&#8217;s FanProtect Guarantee <a href="https://www.elliott.org/problem-solved/stubhub-couldnt-deliver-my-rod-stewart-tickets-am-i-owed-any-compensation/">didn&#8217;t protect fans</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">StubHub&#8217;s return process needs to be simpler and more transparent. When a company sends you the wrong tickets, you shouldn&#8217;t need a consumer advocate to get your money back. The FanProtect Guarantee should protect you automatically — not after weeks of calls and emails.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s my advice for anyone buying tickets through a resale marketplace: Document everything. Save every email. Take screenshots of your order confirmation and any tickets you receive. If something goes wrong, contact customer service immediately and follow up in writing. And if the company refuses to honor its guarantee, don&#8217;t wait 45 days. Escalate to an executive contact right away.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I contacted StubHub on your behalf. The company acknowledged its communication created confusion about next steps.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We regret the challenges Ms. McMonagle experienced with her ticket order,&#8221; a StubHub spokeswoman told me. &#8220;Our FanProtect Guarantee ensures buyers receive the tickets they ordered or comparable replacements, or receive a full refund. In this case, the tickets provided did not match what was purchased, and our communication created confusion about next steps.&#8221;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">StubHub issued a full refund along with a 25 percent voucher toward a future purchase.&nbsp;</p>



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'0'		data-redirect-check = '0'        data-url-href = ''		data-href = ''		data-delay = '0'		data-id = '396'		data-res-rgba = '1'		data-percent-color = '#999A9C'        data-enable-top-animation = ''        data-top-animation-scroll = '100'        data-result-view = 'standart'        data-enable-social-links=''        data-avg=		><span class='ays_poll_passed_count'><i class='ays_poll_fas ays_poll_fa-users' aria-hidden='true'></i> 264</span><div class='ays_poll_cb_and_a'></div><div class='apm-title-box'><div>Should ticket resale companies face financial penalties when they promise a refund and then reverse the decision weeks later?</div></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b2ae29 ays_question'></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b2ae29 hideResults ays-poll-hide-result-box'></div><div class='apm-answers  '><input type='hidden' id='multivot_answer_count' value=''/>			                                        <div class='apm-choosing answer-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b2ae29 '>			                     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  <p class="faq-intro">Quick answers to the most common questions about StubHub&#8217;s FanProtect Guarantee, what to do when you receive the wrong tickets, and how to get a refund when a resale marketplace gives conflicting return instructions.</p>

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    <summary>What is StubHub&#8217;s FanProtect Guarantee?</summary>
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      <p>StubHub&#8217;s FanProtect Guarantee promises that if you do not receive the tickets you ordered, the company will provide comparable replacement tickets or issue a full refund. The guarantee is meant to protect buyers in the secondary ticket market where sellers list tickets they have not yet delivered. In practice, buyers sometimes have to escalate through multiple customer service contacts before the guarantee is honored.</p>
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      <p>Contact StubHub customer service immediately and document the mismatch with screenshots showing the section and seats you ordered versus what you received. Request the exact return process in writing. Do not accept the wrong tickets if doing so would forfeit your refund. Cite the FanProtect Guarantee by name. See Elliott Advocacy&#8217;s <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/how-consumer-complaints-work-guide/" rel="noopener">guide to how consumer complaints work</a>.</p>
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      <p>StubHub&#8217;s return process sometimes requires buyers to accept tickets into their account and then transfer them back to the seller. This creates a risk that accepting the wrong tickets could be treated as accepting the order, forfeiting your refund. If accepting the tickets would put you in a no-win position, refuse and document your refusal in writing. Ask StubHub to confirm in writing that declining wrong tickets preserves your refund eligibility.</p>
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      <p>StubHub representatives have cited a 45-day window to process refunds. However, waiting the full 45 days can be risky if the company gives conflicting return instructions, because a representative may later deny the refund based on a process you were never clearly told to follow. Do not wait passively through the 45-day window. Escalate to an executive contact if you receive conflicting instructions or sense the refund is at risk.</p>
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      <p>Elliott Advocacy publishes a directory of StubHub executive contacts including names and email addresses on its consumer advocacy site. Use these contacts after standard customer service has failed to honor the FanProtect Guarantee. Send a brief, polite email with your full paper trail attached, including the order confirmation, screenshots of the wrong tickets, and records of every conflicting instruction you received.</p>
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      <p>Filing a credit card dispute months before a concert can backfire because the card issuer often cannot determine whether the transaction is valid until the event date. If you receive the wrong tickets close to the show, a chargeback under the Fair Credit Billing Act may be appropriate. Notify your card issuer within 60 days of the statement showing the charge. See Elliott Advocacy&#8217;s <a href="https://www.elliott.org/ultimate-consumer-guides-smart-travelers/the-complete-guide-to-chargebacks-and-winning-a-credit-card-dispute/" rel="noopener">complete guide to chargebacks and winning credit card disputes</a>.</p>
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      <p>Save your order confirmation showing the exact section, seat numbers, and price. Take screenshots of any tickets you receive showing their actual section and seats. Keep every email from the seller and screenshots of any chat conversations. Note the date, time, and agent name for every phone call. If the confirmation lacks seat numbers, save that as evidence too. Strong documentation is essential if you need to escalate a refund dispute.</p>
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    Readers debated whether StubHub is systemically broken or just appears often because happy customers stay silent. Many called for resale platforms to be banned outright, and others questioned the wait-before-disputing advice.
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      Is StubHub systemically broken or just visible?
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      <strong>CasaAlux</strong> says StubHub appears in these complaints more than almost any other company, and Chris agreed they are frequent offenders. <strong>Joe X</strong> counters that the thousands who use StubHub with no issues never write in. <strong>EricLG</strong> says concerts seem more problematic than sports or theater.
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      Buy from the venue or ban resale entirely
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      <strong>Rachel</strong> argues resale agencies should be banned, asking how this differs from scalping outside a venue. <strong>Gerri Hether</strong> refuses to buy anywhere but directly from the venue and questions why tickets bought months ahead only arrive the day before the show.
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      Last-minute ticket delivery is its own nightmare
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      <strong>Kyra</strong> says she did not receive her tickets until an hour before the concert. <strong>Kathleen Matlock</strong> notes that waiting to file the credit card dispute would have pushed it past the 60-day deadline. <strong>rcheetah Cheeta</strong> got stuck in an endless do-this-then-that loop trying to resell.
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Elliott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[$435 REPLACEMENT TICKET]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[185 EURO BALANCE]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[AEGEAN AIRLINES]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[AGENT ERROR]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[ATHENS]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[CHRISTOPHER ELLIOTT]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[PAPER TRAIL DOCUMENTATION]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[REBOOKED FLIGHT]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[REFUND DENIED]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[ROBERT KEMPKE]]></category>
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        <li>Robert Kempke and his wife flew Cleveland to Athens with a return through Thessaloniki on Sky Express, booked via Delta. Their online check-in was blocked over a 185 euro balance linked to a duplicate third passenger using his name.</li>
        <li>Sky Express refused to fix the duplicate entry and told the Kempkes that Delta had to correct it. When the Delta agent canceled and rebooked the Sky Express segment, the entire return itinerary collapsed including the Athens-to-Cleveland flight home.</li>
        <li>The couple paid $435 for a new Aegean Air ticket to Athens, retrieved and rechecked their luggage, and rebooked their U.S. return. Delta initially promised a refund plus 12 euros for seat assignments, then denied the claim entirely.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph"><em>A duplicate reservation on a Sky Express flight disrupts a Cleveland couple’s return from Greece. Delta cancels and rebooks their flights, leaving them scrambling for tickets, luggage, and connections—and facing an unexpected charge.</em></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">My wife and I recently flew from Cleveland to Athens. Our return flights from Thessaloniki to Cleveland were booked through Delta, but the first leg of our return flight was on Sky Express, a regional airline.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When we tried to check in online for our Sky Express flight from Thessaloniki to Athens, we were blocked because of a 185 euro balance linked to a third passenger with my name — an obvious error. Sky Express refused to correct the mistake and told us Delta had to fix it.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We called Delta reservations. The agent canceled the original Sky Express flight and rebooked a new segment from Thessaloniki to Athens. But that also caused our return flight from Athens to Cleveland to be canceled. We had to pick up our luggage in Athens and rebook our flights home.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We had to pay $435 for a new reservation on Aegean Air to Athens. Delta promised a refund for the canceled flight plus 12 euros for seat assignments, but then denied our claim. We are seeking the refund originally promised by Delta. — <strong>Robert Kempke</strong>, <em>Rocky River, Ohio</em></p>



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      The most egregious thing about the Delta error is the time and effort the victims have to undertake to rectify the situation! Delta should have paid the couple a premium over what they owed!
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Your experience shows how quickly a minor airline error can snowball into a full-blown travel nightmare.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It looks like there was a duplicate passenger entry which the airline&#8217;s system flagged. That prevented you from checking in online, ultimately invalidating the entire reservation and forcing you to book a new Sky Express segment. But that also broke your original itinerary, leading to the cancellation of your Delta flight home. You had to buy a new ticket from Thessaloniki to Athens and you had to pick up your luggage in Athens and recheck it for your return flight to the U.S. What a headache!</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You documented everything — the receipts, seat assignment fees, call notes, and Delta’s denial of your claim. This paper trail was essential in resolving the dispute. (<strong>Related</strong>: <a href="https://www.elliott.org/advocacy/he-accepted-a-15000-offer-to-give-up-his-seat-then-delta-called-him-a-liar/">He accepted a $15,000 offer to give up his seat. Then Delta called him a liar</a>.)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It also helps to know your rights. Under U.S. Department of Transportation rules, passengers are entitled to automatic and prompt refunds for flights canceled by the airline, and European Union Regulation 261/2004 applies to flights within or departing the EU. Knowing these protections gives you leverage when requesting reimbursement.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">How did this error happen? Somehow, Sky Express booked two tickets for you on one leg of your return journey. I would have recommended confirming your flight before you left, but you did that and Delta indicated you were all set. There was no way to know about this trouble before you arrived in Greece.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">One thing is clear: If Delta promised a refund it should have made good on its offer. When an airline goes back on its word, you have options, including an appeal to a <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/delta-air-lines-customer-service-contacts-2/">Delta executive</a>. (I list their names, numbers and emails on my consumer advocacy site, <a href="http://elliott.org">Elliott.org</a>)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I contacted the airline on your behalf. Delta’s Customer Care team reviewed your case and reimbursed the full amount for the canceled Sky Express segment, honoring the refund originally promised. While the transaction was handled poorly, your diligence and documentation made a successful outcome possible.</p>



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    A duplicate passenger entry on a Sky Express flight cascaded into a $435 replacement ticket, lost luggage transfers, and an initial refund denial. Delta and Sky Express each told the Kempkes the other airline had to fix the error.
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    <li>Should the U.S. Department of Transportation require airlines to fix duplicate passenger entries within 24 hours of the passenger reporting the error?</li>
    <li>Should regional carrier check-in errors that invalidate an entire international itinerary trigger automatic same-day rebooking obligations on the parent ticketing airline?</li>
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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="226" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/united-issues-300x226.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Soft pastel digital illustration of a young teenage girl with a messy brown bun and large worried eyes standing alone with her arms crossed and a small brown shoulder bag, beside her dark blue rolling suitcase, in the middle of a busy blurred airport terminal with other travelers and luggage in the background, illustrating a 13-year-old unaccompanied minor stranded at LAX after United Airlines denied boarding for a connecting flight the airline itself had authorized" style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/united-issues-300x226.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/united-issues-1062x800.png 1062w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/united-issues-150x113.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/united-issues-768x578.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/united-issues.png 1232w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>Shiri Willcot's travel agent tried to book her 13-year-old daughter Ryan on a connecting flight from Los Angeles to Costa Rica via Houston, but United Airlines policy prohibits unaccompanied minors ages 5 to 14 on connecting flights. A United supervisor overrode the system, approved the reservation, and charged Willcot's credit card the $300 unaccompanied minor fee. The travel agent reconfirmed the booking twice before departure, and a United representative on a recorded call two days before the flight confirmed Ryan could board without issue. At LAX, United agents refused to let Ryan board. For a month afterward, United claimed no record of the original flight existed despite confirmation emails, the credit card charge, and the recorded call. The airline gave three contradicting explanations before settling on its final narrative blaming the travel agency.]]></description>
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        <li>Shiri Willcot&#8217;s travel agent tried to book her 13-year-old daughter Ryan on a connecting flight from Los Angeles to Costa Rica, but United&#8217;s policy prohibits unaccompanied minors on connecting flights.</li>
        <li>A United supervisor overrode the system, approved the reservation, charged the $300 unaccompanied minor fee, and a recorded call two days before the flight confirmed Ryan could board without issue.</li>
        <li>United agents at LAX refused to let Ryan board, citing the no-connecting-flights policy. For a month afterward, United claimed no record of the original flight existed despite Willcot having confirmation emails, the $300 charge, and the recorded call.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">When Shiri Willcot&#8217;s travel agent tried to book a flight for her 13-year-old daughter Ryan from Los Angeles to Costa Rica with a connection in Houston, the reservation system said no.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United Airlines doesn&#8217;t allow unaccompanied minors on connecting flights. Full stop. It&#8217;s right there <a href="https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/travel/accessibility-and-assistance/unaccompanied-minors.html">in the policy</a>: children ages 5 to 14 traveling alone can only fly nonstop.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But then something unusual happened: A United supervisor intervened during the initial booking process, overrode the system, and approved the reservation. The airline even charged Willcot&#8217;s credit card the $300 unaccompanied minor fee.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And just two days before the flight, a United representative confirmed on a recorded call that Ryan &#8220;would have no problem boarding.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But two days later, at the ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport, there was a problem.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United agents refused to let Ryan board. &#8220;They wouldn&#8217;t even look up the flight,&#8221; Willcot says. &#8220;They just kept saying she shouldn&#8217;t have been booked on a connecting flight.&#8221;</p>



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<li>Can airlines authorize exceptions to their own policies, then deny passengers at the gate based on those same policies?</li>



<li>What documentation proves a passenger has been wrongfully denied boarding when the airline claims no record exists?</li>



<li>Who&#8217;s responsible when a travel agent obtains verbal authorization from an airline, but the airline later disputes it happened?</li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But let&#8217;s get back to the flight that wasn&#8217;t, and the poor teenager left stranded at LAX.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">How did this happen?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s the backstory: Willcot had been planning a family vacation to Costa Rica. The itinerary seemed straightforward: Ryan would fly from LAX to Houston, where Willcot would meet her, and they&#8217;d continue together to San Jose, Costa Rica.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But not so fast. United&#8217;s unaccompanied minor program prohibits connecting flights for children under 15 traveling alone. The system simply wouldn&#8217;t process Ryan&#8217;s booking.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;I just spoke with United and they manually configured United&#8217;s flights for us,&#8221; Ryan Gomez, one of Willcot&#8217;s travel agents at RZRV Travel, wrote in an email to Willcot immediately after completing the booking. &#8220;Usually, they don&#8217;t allow indirect flights (connections) for minors, so they had to get authorization for us.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The booking went through. United issued a confirmation. The airline charged her credit card a $300 unaccompanied minor fee.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Everything appeared in order.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;We followed up with United on two additional occasions prior to travel to reconfirm there would be no issue, and were assured the booking was valid,&#8221; RZRV Travel later confirmed in a written statement. &#8220;Notes were also added to the reservation during those calls.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The last call, confirming her daughter could board the flight, was recorded by her. (You know, for quality assurance purposes.)</p>



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      Airline employee here. People try to dump their kids with the airlines all the time with no contingency plan if something goes wrong. If a child is unaccompanied, an adult must stay in the gate area not just until the child is boarded, but until the plane is in the air.
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      What is the airline supposed to do with a child if the aircraft boards then a last minute mechanical or weather issue prevents take-off and they have to de-board? Airlines are not babysitters, and have to protect themselves from liability if there is a flight interruption.
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      The fact that the adult&#8217;s flight from Portland had not posted a delay yet does not mean it was not going to be delayed. Employees are generally privy to weather and operational delay info before it is officially posted, and ultimately it WAS delayed. So the gate agent should board this UM not knowing HOW delayed the adult&#8217;s flight would be?
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      That was a pretty risky plan to fly in just hours before the child arrived. At the very least that mother should have come in the night before. Had that mother&#8217;s flight been delayed or canceled, I promise you that gate agent would have had to take the fall.
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">The trip that required a supervisor override</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United&#8217;s denial of boarding set off a cascade of problems. Ryan&#8217;s father, who&#8217;d taken her to the airport, couldn&#8217;t get her a replacement ticket on the same flight. Willcot ended up purchasing a one-way ticket for Ryan to fly alone from Los Angeles to Costa Rica a day later.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When Willcot tried to get answers from United, things got stranger. Customer service representatives told her their system showed only a one-way return ticket, but no record of the original outbound flight and no record of the denial at LAX.  (<strong>Related</strong>: <a href="https://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/oh-no-united-airlines-changed-our-flight-and-now-we-cant-make-our-connection/">Oh no! United Airlines changed our flight, and now we can’t make our connection</a>.)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It was as if the whole thing had never happened.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Except Willcot had the confirmation emails. She had the $300 charge on her credit card statement. She had screenshots of her travel agent&#8217;s chats with United. And she even had a recorded call assuring her that her daughter could board the flight.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United&#8217;s written responses came next, each one contradicting the last.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">First, the airline said the travel agency had booked against policy without authorization. Then it claimed no supervisor would have approved the itinerary. Later, a United representative left Willcot a voicemail admitting one explanation was &#8220;wrong&#8221; and promising a corrected version.&nbsp;</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Can airlines authorize exceptions to their own policies, then reverse them?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United&#8217;s unaccompanied minor policy is unambiguous: children 5 to 14 must travel on nonstop flights only. No connections, no exceptions.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Except when there are exceptions.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Airlines <em>do</em> make policy overrides. They&#8217;re called supervisor approvals for a reason. Gate agents can&#8217;t authorize them, but managers and supervisors can. It happens when a passenger has a compelling reason, when circumstances are unusual, or when the airline determines the standard rule shouldn&#8217;t apply.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In Ryan&#8217;s case, the circumstances were specific: her mother would be arriving in Houston on a separate flight before Ryan&#8217;s connection to Costa Rica departed. United&#8217;s own policy states that unaccompanied minors must &#8220;be met by another parent, legal guardian, or responsible adult upon deplaning at the final destination.&#8221;&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Willcot would be there, eliminating the unaccompanied part of the connection.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The travel agents couldn&#8217;t have completed the booking without United&#8217;s intervention. When you try to book an unaccompanied minor on a connecting flight through United&#8217;s website, the system displays &#8220;N/A&#8221; for all dates.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;It is not possible to book an unaccompanied minor with a layover through United&#8217;s system,&#8221; RZRV Travel confirmed. &#8220;A United representative placed us on hold, consulted a supervisor, and then confirmed that they could override the system and book the flight over the phone for us. Without that override, the reservation could not have been issued.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So what happened? Did United authorize the booking or not?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to United&#8217;s contract of carriage, &#8220;no employee or agent of UA has the authority to alter, modify, or waive any fare rules or any provision of the Contract of Carriage unless authorized by a corporate officer of UA.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s the airline&#8217;s position. No corporate officer authorized Ryan&#8217;s travel on a connecting flight, United claims, therefore no valid exception existed.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But if no authorization existed, how did the ticket get issued? How did the $300 unaccompanied minor fee get charged? How did three separate United representatives — including one on a recorded call two days before departure — confirm Ryan could fly?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The answer appears to be that someone at United <em>did</em> authorize it. The airline just doesn&#8217;t want to admit it.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What documentation proves wrongful denial when the airline has no record?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s where Willcot&#8217;s case gets a little strange. For a full month after the LAX denial, United claimed to have no record of Ryan&#8217;s original flight.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When Willcot contacted customer service through the online portal, a representative reviewed the account.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Our records show only a one-way return ticket,&#8221; he told her. No outbound flight from LAX to Houston. No connection to Costa Rica. And no denial at the airport.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Willcot sent screenshots of the booking confirmation. She sent the credit card statement showing the $300 unaccompanied minor charge. She sent call logs from her travel agents.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United&#8217;s response: Sorry, we don&#8217;t see it in our system.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This is where things get difficult for passengers. Airlines control the records and their own reservation systems. They control what&#8217;s documented and what isn&#8217;t. If an airline says something didn&#8217;t happen, and its system shows no record, how does a passenger prove otherwise?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Willcot had documentation, but it wasn&#8217;t enough. Email confirmations can be dismissed. Credit card charges prove payment but not authorization. Call logs show a conversation occurred, not what was said.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The recorded call was Willcot&#8217;s strongest evidence, but United never acknowledged it. The airline&#8217;s written responses repeatedly stated that no United representative &#8220;would have been authorized&#8221; to confirm Ryan could travel on connecting flights. Whether one actually did was irrelevant, according to United&#8217;s airline logic.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A few weeks later, Willcot sent a formal demand letter to United, requesting $20,000 in compensation.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And just when you think things couldn&#8217;t get any stranger, they do. A manager sent another response after Willcot filed a complaint with the Department of Transportation, contradicting the first one. The United rep even left a voicemail saying to disregard the earlier email because it was &#8220;wrong.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Within a month, United had decided on its final narrative: the travel agency booked against policy, no authorization was given, and the airline&#8217;s denial at LAX was appropriate.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;The customer&#8217;s travel agency booked an unaccompanied 13-year-old child on an itinerary with a connecting flight, which is not permitted under our unaccompanied minor policy,&#8221; United told my team after we asked about this case.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But there was one more twist.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Who&#8217;s responsible when verbal authorization later gets disputed?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A few weeks later, United provided additional context to my advocacy team: Willcot&#8217;s flight from Portland to Houston had been delayed. She wouldn&#8217;t have arrived before Ryan&#8217;s connecting flight, United claimed, violating the requirement that an adult meet the unaccompanied minor upon deplaning.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This was the first time anyone had mentioned a delay.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to United, Willcot&#8217;s flight delay registration showed at 10:01 p.m. Pacific time — right around when Ryan was checking in at LAX. The initial delay projection showed Willcot arriving 15 minutes after Ryan&#8217;s scheduled arrival in Houston.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If true, this would potentially justify United&#8217;s denial. The airline&#8217;s unaccompanied minor policy requires an adult to be &#8220;at the gate 30 minutes before their arrival time.&#8221; If Willcot couldn&#8217;t be there, Ryan couldn&#8217;t fly as an unaccompanied minor.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Except the timing doesn&#8217;t add up.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Willcot&#8217;s flight wasn&#8217;t scheduled to depart Portland until 11:59 p.m. — nearly two hours after Ryan checked in at LAX. When Ryan was denied boarding around 10 p.m., Willcot&#8217;s flight hadn&#8217;t even been posted as delayed yet.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;At the time of Ryan&#8217;s denial, no delay was yet posted for our flight,&#8221; Willcot says. &#8220;The first announcement came later and was only a 15-minute delay.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">More importantly, the ticket agents at LAX never mentioned Willcot&#8217;s flight or any delay. Willcot asked them to look up her reservation to confirm she&#8217;d arrive first. They refused, stating simply that unaccompanied minors shouldn&#8217;t be booked on connecting flights.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If the real reason for the denial was the delay, why didn&#8217;t United say so at the time? Why did the airline&#8217;s subsequent explanations never mention it until three months later, after multiple other rationales had failed?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;United has shifted its story multiple times, with each new explanation contradicting the last,&#8221; Willcot notes. &#8220;If there had been a valid reason, it would have been stated consistently from the start.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United&#8217;s contract of carriage allows the airline to refuse transportation for safety reasons. If United genuinely believed Ryan would arrive in Houston with no adult present to meet her, denying boarding would be appropriate.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But that requires United to have known about the delay, checked Willcot&#8217;s flight, and determined she couldn&#8217;t arrive on time. None of that appears to have happened at LAX. The agents simply saw a connecting flight for an unaccompanied minor and said no.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The travel agency maintains its position: United authorized the booking, reconfirmed it twice before departure, and only denied it at the gate based on policy — not operational issues.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Ultimately, the decision to authorize, deny, or compensate lies with United Airlines,&#8221; RZRV Travel told us.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United also maintains its position: the travel agency booked against policy without proper authorization, and the denial was appropriate.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="h-so-what-was-the-resolution">So what was the resolution?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">United refunded Ryan&#8217;s unused flight segment from LAX to Houston: $375. The airline also refunded the $300 unaccompanied minor fee and offered 25,000 MileagePlus miles &#8220;as a gesture of goodwill.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Total value: approximately $1,000, depending on how you value the miles.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Willcot spent $679 on the replacement Alaska Airlines ticket. She spent hours on phone calls, emails, and documentation trying to piece together what happened. And her 13-year-old daughter was denied boarding after her family had done everything United told them to do.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Our advocate Dwayne Coward asked the airline repeatedly to explain the supervisor override, the multiple conflicting explanations, and the disappearing reservation records. United declined to comment beyond its prepared statement blaming the travel agency.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We also contacted RZRV Travel, giving the agency an opportunity to respond. Initially reluctant to be involved, the agents eventually provided a detailed account supporting Willcot&#8217;s version of events.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;This reservation could not have been completed without United Airlines&#8217; intervention,&#8221; an agency representative wrote. &#8220;We followed up with United on two additional occasions prior to travel to reconfirm there would be no issue, and were assured the booking was valid.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After reviewing all the documentation — confirmation emails, call logs, credit card statements, United&#8217;s contradictory written responses, and the timeline of events — the truth became clear to us. United must have authorized an exception to its unaccompanied minor policy, allowed the booking to be ticketed, collected payment, then reversed course at the gate without a clear explanation.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Willcot may yet pursue legal action. For now, she&#8217;s left with an expensive extra airline ticket and an unresolved grievance with an airline.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;I don&#8217;t need to keep proving what I lived through,&#8221; Willcot says. &#8220;I was fully aware of the contract of carriage — and what United relied on the night of the flight was the connection rule, which they had already broken by finalizing and confirming the booking.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Bottom line: When you get an exception to the rules, make sure you get it in writing. Documentation may not prevent airlines from changing their mind — but it makes it harder to pretend the conversation never happened.</p>



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'0'		data-redirect-check = '0'        data-url-href = ''		data-href = ''		data-delay = '0'		data-id = '394'		data-res-rgba = '1'		data-percent-color = '#999A9C'        data-enable-top-animation = ''        data-top-animation-scroll = '100'        data-result-view = 'standart'        data-enable-social-links=''        data-avg=		><span class='ays_poll_passed_count'><i class='ays_poll_fas ays_poll_fa-users' aria-hidden='true'></i> 546</span><div class='ays_poll_cb_and_a'></div><div class='apm-title-box'><div>Should airlines be required to pay full replacement ticket costs they deny boarding for a policy they authorized at booking?</div></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b2c8a3 ays_question'></div><div class='ays-poll-id-6a22c59b2c8a3 hideResults ays-poll-hide-result-box'></div><div class='apm-answers  '><input type='hidden' id='multivot_answer_count' value=''/>			                                        <div class='apm-choosing answer-ays-poll-id-6a22c59b2c8a3 '>			                      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  <p class="faq-intro">Quick answers to the most common questions about United Airlines unaccompanied minor connection rules, what happens when an airline authorizes an exception then reverses it, and how to document and enforce an airline&#8217;s verbal authorization.</p>

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    <summary>What is United Airlines&#8217; unaccompanied minor policy on connecting flights?</summary>
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      <p>United Airlines unaccompanied minor policy prohibits children ages 5 to 14 from flying alone on connecting flights. They can only travel nonstop. The policy applies to all bookings made through United&#8217;s website, which displays &#8220;N/A&#8221; for all dates when attempting to book a minor on a connecting itinerary. United charges a $300 unaccompanied minor fee per booking, and an adult must meet the minor at the gate within 30 minutes of arrival.</p>
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      <p>If United denies boarding after the booking was authorized, you may be entitled to a refund of the unused flight segment, the unaccompanied minor fee, and goodwill compensation typically offered as MileagePlus miles. Your replacement ticket costs are not automatically reimbursed. Document every conversation, save all confirmation emails, and file a complaint with the U.S. Department of Transportation. See Elliott Advocacy&#8217;s <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/how-consumer-complaints-work-guide/" rel="noopener">guide to how consumer complaints work</a>.</p>
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      <p>Save every email confirming the booking, the credit card statement showing fees, screenshots of the airline app or website, and any chat transcripts with the travel agent or airline representative. Where legal, record reconfirmation calls. Request that agents add detailed reservation notes describing the supervisor override. Email a written summary of every phone conversation back to the airline customer service team for an audit trail.</p>
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      <p>File a formal complaint with the U.S. Department of Transportation at transportation.gov. Include your booking confirmation, credit card statement showing all fees, any recorded call transcripts, screenshots of the original booking, and the airline&#8217;s contradictory written responses. The DOT requires the airline to respond formally to your complaint within 60 days. DOT complaints often produce faster resolution than continued direct customer service contact.</p>
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      <p>A contract of carriage is the legal agreement between an airline and its passengers covering everything from refund rights to denial of boarding. United&#8217;s contract of carriage limits who can authorize policy exceptions to corporate officers. The contract often defaults in the airline&#8217;s favor when verbal authorizations are disputed. Read the full contract before booking unusual itineraries. Contact <a href="https://www.elliott.org/company-contacts/united-airlines/" rel="noopener">United Airlines executive customer service</a> when standard channels fail.</p>
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      <p>If United denies boarding after charging your card for the ticket and unaccompanied minor fee, you can dispute the charge under the Fair Credit Billing Act for services not as advertised. Notify your card issuer within 60 days of the first statement showing the charge. Provide your full documentation package. See Elliott Advocacy&#8217;s <a href="https://www.elliott.org/ultimate-consumer-guides-smart-travelers/the-complete-guide-to-chargebacks-and-winning-a-credit-card-dispute/" rel="noopener">complete guide to chargebacks and winning credit card disputes</a>.</p>
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    Airline insiders offered a startling theory about how the booking was made, while many readers questioned the mother&#8217;s risky same-day connection plan. Others backed Willcot, noting United had the authorization on tape.
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      Insiders suspect a faked birthdate, not a system override
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      <strong>Evelyn Cushman Rathe</strong>, an airline employee, suspects the agent entered a fake birthdate making Ryan 15 since there is no override for the connecting-itinerary lock under 15. She says records vanish 48 hours after a flight, explaining why United could not find it.
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      Two separate tickets were the safer plan
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      <strong>Dee Eagle</strong>, <strong>Leslie</strong>, and <strong>Sam Phillips Gershenfeld</strong> all suggest booking LAX to Houston separately, then a parent-accompanied ticket onward. <strong>Dwayne</strong>, our advocate, notes the mother&#8217;s 90-minute delay would still have stranded Ryan in Houston with no adult to meet her.
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      Payment proves authorization, and it is on tape
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      <strong>Gerri Hether</strong> says United violated its own contract of carriage because payment proves authorization, comparing it to insurance runarounds. <strong>ontheroad37</strong> notes Willcot has United on tape yet the airline denies it is valid, suggesting written permission would not have helped either.
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<div><img width="300" height="200" src="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/AI-Give-Voucher-300x200.png" class="attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image" alt="Editorial cartoon illustration of a smiling AI robot with &quot;AI&quot; labeled on its chest holding out a paper voucher in one hand and a colorful striped &quot;Favor&quot; shopping bag in the other, while a frustrated middle-aged man in a blue polo shirt stands with arms crossed next to his black rolling suitcase refusing the offer, illustrating how travel companies use automated systems to push customers into accepting vouchers instead of legally required cash refunds" style="margin-bottom: 15px;" decoding="async" srcset="https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/AI-Give-Voucher-300x200.png 300w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/AI-Give-Voucher-1200x800.png 1200w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/AI-Give-Voucher-150x100.png 150w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/AI-Give-Voucher-768x512.png 768w, https://www.elliott.org/wp-content/uploads/AI-Give-Voucher.png 1248w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></div>Travel companies are increasingly replacing cash refunds with vouchers and goodwill credits when flights cancel, hotel rooms fail, and rental cars run out of vehicles. The practice exploded after the pandemic when companies pivoted to vouchers to hoard cash. The actual redemption rate for travel vouchers is below 10 percent, meaning a 90 percent chance the credit goes unused and the company keeps your money entirely. Under U.S. Department of Transportation rules, airlines must provide prompt refunds to your original form of payment when they cancel flights or make significant schedule changes. Airlines offering only vouchers without a genuine cash option violate these legal obligations. Hotels and online booking sites operate in a legal gray zone with few hard rules governing refund practices.]]></description>
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        <li>Travel companies are increasingly replacing cash refunds with vouchers and goodwill credits when flights cancel, hotel rooms fail, and rental cars run out. The practice exploded after the pandemic.</li>
        <li>The actual redemption rate for travel vouchers is below 10 percent, meaning there is a 90 percent chance the credit goes unused. The company keeps your money and avoids the loss entirely.</li>
        <li>Under U.S. DOT rules, airlines must provide prompt refunds to your original form of payment when they cancel flights or make significant changes. Hotels and booking sites operate in a legal gray zone.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">Your flight is canceled. Your hotel loses your reservation. Your car rental company runs out of vehicles.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So what does the company do? It reaches into its favor bag and offers you a voucher or a &#8220;goodwill&#8221; credit that expires in a year.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s called coupon justice, and it&#8217;s a troubling trend quietly sweeping the travel industry. Coupon justice is an increasingly automated system for handling legitimate customer complaints.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And no, it&#8217;s not justice at all. It&#8217;s corporate self-preservation and penny-pinching, dressed up in customer-friendly language.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Coupon justice is everywhere</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The practice has exploded since the pandemic, when companies pivoted to vouchers to hoard cash. Now, years later, they&#8217;ve discovered another benefit: Travelers don&#8217;t always use the scrip. And the company keeps the money without having to give them anything.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;It&#8217;s elegant in a way,&#8221; says Joe Cronin, president of <a href="https://be34663a.streaklinks.com/CjSWCoYNDTa4vf0FAQLrnJUQ/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.internationalinsurance.com%2F">International Citizens Insurance</a>. &#8220;The airline gets interest-free financing. You get trapped in their ecosystem. Nobody gets made whole.&#8221;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But these partial remedies aren&#8217;t compensation. They&#8217;re corporate loopholes dressed in business casual, and you don&#8217;t have to fall for them on your next trip.</p>



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      I&#8217;ve never used a hotel voucher, but the real ripoff with airline vouchers is this: You&#8217;re a conscientious traveler. You plan your June vacation until the dead of winter and book everything, including the air.
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      But as June approaches, you have a medical problem and can&#8217;t go. Fortunately, you are able to cancel the ticket and get credit for it, validity one year. So you can plan the same trip for next year, right? Oops, your voucher window starts when you bought the ticket, not when you were scheduled to use it. THAT is why so few vouchers are ever redeemed.
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      After the midterm elections this fall, can we dream of legislating at least a three-year window of validity for airline vouchers?
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Here&#8217;s why companies love vouchers (and you should hate them)</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s how it works in practice: Let&#8217;s say something goes terribly wrong with your $180 hotel room, like incessant construction noise or a broken shower. Instead of offering you a refund for the night, the hotel gives you a $50 voucher for a future stay.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There are two problems: First, there are no $50 rooms, so you&#8217;ll have to pay more to redeem this offer. Also, the hotel knows there&#8217;s a good chance your voucher will sit in your desk until it expires. It should have paid you $180, but instead you have nothing of real value.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Let me be blunt: Vouchers solve a company&#8217;s problem, not yours.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When you get a voucher instead of a refund, the company keeps your money on its books. The value of the voucher doesn&#8217;t immediately hit the balance sheet as a loss. It becomes a liability, but one the company doesn&#8217;t have to pay until (and unless) you redeem it.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">And if you don&#8217;t spend it? The company wins twice: It kept your money and avoided paying you at all.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Coupons allow the wrongdoer to keep its ill-gotten gains,&#8221; explains Danny Karon, author of <em>Your Lovable Lawyers Guide To Legal Wellness: Fighting back against a world that&#8217;s out to cheat you</em>. &#8220;Everyone knows how often gift cards go unused, which is precisely the company&#8217;s goal. They drive additional business to the wrongdoer, with victims often spending more than the value of the voucher.&#8221;</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Can airlines force you to accept a voucher instead of a refund?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Under U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) rules, airlines have to provide prompt refunds to your original form of payment when they cancel flights or make significant changes. But an airline can also offer a voucher, and if you say yes, it&#8217;s a done deal. Many passengers don&#8217;t know this. So when the airline offers a flight credit, travelers assume it&#8217;s their only option.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It&#8217;s not.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;Airlines offering only vouchers without a genuine cash option violate these legal obligations,&#8221; says Eric Napoli, chief legal officer at <a href="https://www.airhelp.com/en/">AirHelp</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Hotels and booking sites operate in a legal gray zone. Few hard rules govern their refund practices. They&#8217;ll push credits unless you push back.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">How to fight back — and win</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Vouchers aren&#8217;t inevitable. You can get real refunds if you know what to do.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Start with reliable documentation.</strong> Ari Cibari, who works with tour operators untangling refund disputes, swears by one simple habit: Document <em>everything</em>. Note dates and times of any delay or cancellation. Take photos of receipts, vouchers, and anything else relevant. &#8220;Use clear language,&#8221; says Cibari, a travel business consultant with AtlasPerk. &#8220;Keep everything in writing versus phone calls. Take a screenshot of the terms, note date and times. Don&#8217;t aim for perfection, aim for immediacy.&#8221; Having good documentation greatly increases your chance of having an airtight case.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>When a company offers you a voucher, refuse it in writing.</strong> Use the phrase &#8220;breach of contract&#8221; or &#8220;failure to deliver service as promised.&#8221; Request a full refund to your original form of payment. Keep a copy of that email.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>If they insist on giving you a coupon, escalate. </strong>Contact a manager. If that doesn&#8217;t work, file a complaint with the DOT (for airlines) or the Federal Trade Commission (for booking sites). If it&#8217;s outside the U.S., go to the appropriate country&#8217;s aviation regulator or consumer protection agency.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>If that doesn&#8217;t work, dispute the charge with your credit card company.</strong> When you have a clean paper trail — emails, screenshots, receipts — you&#8217;re likely to win.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="h-what-needs-to-change">What needs to change</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I&#8217;ve been watching this trend since I started advocating consumer cases in the 90s. And I&#8217;m sure of this: Coupon justice won&#8217;t end without regulatory pressure.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s what might actually work:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Limit the voucher option.</strong> If governments require airlines to offer a cash refund and only give vouchers on request, that would stop some (but not all) of the shenanigans.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Disclose everything.</strong> Consumers need to know that for many travel credits, the actual redemption rate for vouchers is below 10 percent. In other words, there&#8217;s a 90 percent chance the voucher will go unused. Also, businesses should be up front about expiration dates or any other limits.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Eliminate expiration dates.</strong> Also, kill any blackout dates and minimum spending requirements. Allow the credit to be used all at once or split into several purchases.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Most importantly, we need to enforce the rules that exist. The DOT&#8217;s refund requirements are clear. So are Europe&#8217;s. But enforcement is weak, so companies sometimes ignore them.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Coupon justice isn&#8217;t justice at all. It&#8217;s another word&nbsp; for &#8220;we&#8217;re keeping your money and hoping you won&#8217;t fight back.&#8221; But you can&#8217;t win if you don&#8217;t try. And companies are betting you won&#8217;t.</p>



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  <h2 class="voice-matters-title">Your voice matters</h2>
  <p class="voice-matters-intro">
    Vouchers expire while travel companies pocket the cash. The redemption rate is below 10 percent. Hotels and booking sites push credits unless you push back, and DOT refund rules go unenforced as airlines hope customers do not know cash refunds are required.
  </p>
  <ul class="voice-matters-questions">
    <li>Should travel vouchers be legally prohibited from carrying expiration dates, blackout dates, or minimum spending requirements?</li>
    <li>Should hotels and online booking sites be required to follow the same DOT-style refund-in-original-payment-form rules currently applied to airlines?</li>
    <li>Should travel companies be required to disclose voucher redemption statistics on every offer of a credit instead of a cash refund?</li>
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      <p>Coupon justice is the practice of resolving legitimate customer complaints with vouchers, goodwill credits, or future travel certificates instead of cash refunds. The term captures how travel companies use small expiring credits to make customer service problems look resolved while keeping the cash and avoiding actual financial losses. The practice exploded after the pandemic when companies pivoted to vouchers to hoard cash.</p>
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    Readers exposed an even darker side of vouchers and gift cards, with hotel staff who cannot process them, front desks that flat-out refuse them, and a California-style no-expiration mandate as the proposed fix.
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      <strong>Stephanus Surjaputra</strong> says travel companies should follow California&#8217;s retail gift card rule and remove expiration dates entirely. Consumers will still forget about credits anyway, so companies will not lose much, but the customers who do remember will keep what they earned.
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        <li>The MV Hondius limped into Tenerife after a hantavirus outbreak killed three people. The Caribbean Princess returned to Port Canaveral with 102 passengers and 13 crew sick from norovirus, the fourth gastrointestinal outbreak this year.</li>
        <li>Federal agents at the Port of San Diego boarded eight cruise ships and detained 28 crew members, with 27 allegedly involved in receipt, possession, or distribution of child sexual abuse material.</li>
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<p class="has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph">If you needed a sign that the universe wants you to skip a cruise this summer, here it is.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There&#8217;s the MV <em>Hondius</em>, the Dutch expedition ship that limped into Tenerife last week after a hantavirus outbreak killed three people and infected at least eight more. The Andes virus strain responsible is the only hantavirus known to spread person to person.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There&#8217;s the <em>Caribbean Princess</em>, which arrived in Port Canaveral, Fla., carrying a different souvenir: norovirus. The CDC reports that <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/vessel-sanitation/cruise-ship-outbreaks/caribbean-princess-may-2026.html">102 passengers and 13 crew members fell ill</a> on the 13-day Caribbean voyage out of Fort Lauderdale. It&#8217;s the fourth gastrointestinal outbreak on a cruise ship this year.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) confirmed last week that federal agents had boarded eight cruise ships at the Port of San Diego and detained 28 crew members. CBP said 27 of them were involved in the receipt, possession, transportation, distribution, or viewing of child sexual abuse material.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Even if you survive the viruses and scandals, you might still run out of luck. This week, an 88-year-old passenger reportedly died after losing control of her mobility scooter on the pier at Carnival&#8217;s private island, Celebration Key in the Bahamas, and plunging into the water. (<strong>Related</strong>: <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/the-cruise-ship-virus-is-back-why-did-we-fire-the-health-inspectors-again/">The cruise ship virus is back. Why did we fire the health inspectors, again</a>?)</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Zoom out, and the picture gets even worse.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The problems plaguing the cruise industry, from viral outbreaks and accidents to scandals, are compounded by ships sailing under flags of convenience, which ensure minimal regulation and maximum profit through a fine-tuned system designed to siphon more money from your wallet.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading" id="h-a-regulated-industry-mostly-in-theory">A regulated industry, mostly in theory</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">These ships do not, in any meaningful sense, sail under U.S. law. The Caribbean Princess flies the flag of Bermuda. Most of the Carnival fleet flies Panama or the Bahamas. Royal Caribbean prefers the Bahamas and Liberia. They&#8217;re called flags of convenience, and the convenience belongs to the operator, not to you. It means a company headquartered in Miami can pay crew wages set by Honduran labor norms, follow safety standards written in Nassau, and route disputes through courts outside the United States.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The one U.S. agency with real authority over sanitation on ships that call at American ports is the <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/the-cruise-ship-virus-is-back-why-did-we-fire-the-health-inspectors-again/">CDC&#8217;s Vessel Sanitation Program</a>. One year ago, the administration laid off the program&#8217;s full-time civilian staff, including the epidemiologist who led the outbreak response on cruise ships (12 U.S. Public Health Service officers remained). The program chief announced his retirement last week, in the middle of the hantavirus outbreak.</p>



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      More scare tactics about cruises. Most of the issues Chris mentioned have been a part of cruising for many years—nothing new except for the dismantling of the CDC&#8217;s Vessel Sanitation Program which is a problem.
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      However, norovirus on cruise ships is unfortunately nothing new and the percentage of passengers on the Caribbean Princess that were sickened was 3% and the percentage of crew sickened was 1%. Upselling has been around since cruising became popular and passengers just need to remember that &#8220;No&#8221; is a complete sentence.
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      And while the death of the 88-year-old woman who lost control of her scooter and went off a pier is tragic, I don&#8217;t think that can be attributed to negligence on Carnival&#8217;s part.
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What it looks like when something goes wrong</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The headlines describe outbreaks and arrests, but most cruises fall short in smaller ways.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Shari Lunsford, a receptionist from Livingston, Tenn., paid $1,500 for a Carnival cruise last month from New Orleans to Cozumel. Nothing in her cabin worked. She says the sinks and showers would not drain. She stood in two inches of water every time she bathed. Her toilet stopped working twice, sending her in search of a public restroom several decks up. Her stateroom thermostat would not go below 73 degrees, which the ship&#8217;s cabin crew told her is within company policy. Her room steward eventually brought a fan. She slept on an ice pack.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Lunsford complained at guest services on board, which sent her a cheap bottle of champagne and a cheese plate. Off the ship, she escalated her complaint. A representative from the cruise line&#8217;s office of the president called her, listened to her story, and offered the final compensation: a future cruise credit of $99 per person, plus a $150 onboard credit, both redeemable within a year.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">That&#8217;s right, the remedy for a $1,500 trip Lunsford describes as a nightmare is a small discount on a second trip with the same company.&nbsp;</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">What are you getting when you cruise?</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Suppose you decide none of that bothers you, and you just like being on a ship.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here&#8217;s what you need to know: In addition to being loosely regulated and sometimes dangerous, a cruise ship is a carefully calibrated machine designed to extract more money from your wallet.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Cruises are filled with annoying and not always avoidable upsells and fees. There&#8217;s the upsell from the buffet to the specialty restaurant. There&#8217;s the push for the drink package at the bar. And, of course, there&#8217;s the overpriced shore excursion. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Gratuities that used to be discretionary are now line items added to your folio &#8220;for your convenience.&#8221; Passengers rarely question them because they feel guilty about the substandard wages the crew receives.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The art auction, the photo package, the casino, the spa upsell, the Wi-Fi, it all adds to your bill.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">So in addition to the danger, you also get dinged for extras. If you want to know how that feels, just grab a coffee on the last day of a cruise and sit at the reception desk, where passengers are trying to settle their bill. Yes, there&#8217;s a reason those security guys are standing there, too. Get ready for fireworks.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Don&#8217;t take a cruise this summer</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">There&#8217;s only one sane conclusion: This isn&#8217;t the summer for a cruise. A vacation at sea is a dangerous, deregulated disaster-in-the-making designed to drain money from your bank account. You can&#8217;t forecast the next viral outbreak, but the cruise experience itself is predictable.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Cruise lines, for the most part, care more about monetizing passengers than serving them. They care more about upselling them than keeping them safe.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Stay on land this summer. It&#8217;s a vacation you might actually survive.</p>



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    Hantavirus deaths, norovirus outbreaks, federal arrests, and a passenger drowning at a private island. The CDC&#8217;s Vessel Sanitation Program lost its civilian staff during the outbreaks. Cruise lines use flags of convenience to escape U.S. labor, safety, and legal standards.
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  <h2 id="faq-heading">What you need to know about cruise industry risks in summer 2026</h2>

  <p class="faq-intro">Quick answers to the most common questions about recent cruise outbreaks, flags of convenience, the weakened CDC Vessel Sanitation Program, and what protections you actually have when something goes wrong at sea.</p>

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    <summary>What is hantavirus and how did it spread on the MV Hondius?</summary>
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      <p>Hantavirus is a serious viral infection typically spread by rodents through contaminated air, food, or surfaces. The Andes virus strain responsible for the MV Hondius outbreak is the only hantavirus known to spread person to person. The Dutch expedition ship limped into Tenerife with three deaths and at least eight infected. Person-to-person transmission makes the Andes strain particularly dangerous in the confined environment of a cruise ship.</p>
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    <summary>What is a flag of convenience and how does it affect cruise passengers?</summary>
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      <p>Flags of convenience refer to the practice of registering ships in countries with minimal regulation to avoid stricter labor, safety, and tax requirements. The Caribbean Princess flies Bermuda. Most Carnival ships fly Panama or the Bahamas. Royal Caribbean prefers the Bahamas and Liberia. These flags mean a Miami-headquartered company can pay crew wages set by Honduran labor norms, follow Nassau safety standards, and route disputes through foreign courts.</p>
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    <summary>What does the CDC Vessel Sanitation Program do?</summary>
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      <p>The CDC Vessel Sanitation Program is the one U.S. agency with real authority over sanitation on ships that call at American ports. The program conducts unannounced inspections, investigates outbreaks, and publishes scores. One year ago, the administration laid off the program&#8217;s full-time civilian staff including the epidemiologist who led cruise ship outbreak responses. The program chief announced his retirement during the hantavirus outbreak.</p>
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    <summary>How common are norovirus outbreaks on cruise ships?</summary>
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      <p>Norovirus outbreaks on cruise ships happen multiple times per year. The Caribbean Princess outbreak with 102 passengers and 13 crew sick was the fourth gastrointestinal outbreak on a cruise ship this year alone. Norovirus spreads rapidly in the confined environment of a cruise ship through contaminated surfaces, food, and person-to-person contact. The CDC reports outbreaks affecting more than 3 percent of passengers or crew at cdc.gov/nceh/vsp.</p>
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    <summary>What compensation should you expect for a defective cruise cabin?</summary>
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      <p>Cruise lines typically offer minimal compensation for defective cabins, often a future cruise credit between $99 and $250 plus a small onboard credit. Onboard guest services may offer token gestures like a champagne bottle or cheese plate. Document every issue with timestamped photos and videos. Escalate to the office of the president after the cruise. See Elliott Advocacy&#8217;s <a href="https://www.elliott.org/blog/how-consumer-complaints-work-guide/" rel="noopener">guide to how consumer complaints work</a>.</p>
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      <p>Most cruise ticket contracts force disputes to specific courts outside your home state, typically Miami federal court for U.S. operations or the flag country for international matters. These forum selection clauses are usually enforceable. Many contracts also require arbitration rather than litigation. Read the full contract before paying any deposit. Consider travel insurance with strong dispute coverage. See Elliott Advocacy&#8217;s <a href="https://www.elliott.org/safe-travels/everything-you-need-to-know-about-buying-travel-insurance-for-the-holiday-travel-season/" rel="noopener">travel insurance guide</a>.</p>
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    <summary>What hidden fees should you expect on a cruise?</summary>
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      <p>Cruise lines depend heavily on upsells and fees that can nearly double your advertised price. Expect aggressive pressure for specialty restaurants beyond the buffet, drink packages at the bar, and overpriced shore excursions. Gratuities that used to be discretionary are now automatic line items added to your folio for your convenience. The art auction, photo package, casino, spa, and Wi-Fi all add to your bill. Budget accordingly before booking.</p>
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    Cruise enthusiasts and industry insiders pushed back hard, arguing the smaller premium lines avoid most of these issues entirely. A cruise industry worker explained why U.S.-flagged ships would make cruising unaffordable for nearly everyone.
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      The line you choose matters more than cruising itself
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      <strong>Brent Feinberg</strong> heads to the Baltic on Oceania in two weeks and argues the issue is the cruise line not cruising itself, refusing Carnival but accepting Royal Caribbean for his daughter with realistic expectations. <strong>Patricia Lenhart</strong> says Oceania and Windstar have no upcharges.
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      Industry insider on why U.S.-flagged ships are impossible
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      <strong>CasaAlux</strong>, who works in the cruise industry, explains U.S.-flagged ships would have to be U.S.-built and U.S.-crewed at U.S. salaries, making cruises prohibitively expensive for most travelers. He confirms the Vessel Sanitation Program dismantling traces entirely to the current U.S. government, not cruise lines.
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      U.S.-booked cruises should mean U.S. arbitration
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      <strong>Gerri Hether</strong> says if a cruise is booked in the United States, arbitration and court actions should happen within the U.S., though she questions whether that helps consumers under the current regime. <strong>Brooklyn</strong> would settle for arbitration in the cruise line&#8217;s headquarters country.
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