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      <title>[nvda] Re: Autorun fix that might help other NVDA users (Adrien)</title>
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      <description>Hi 

Can you e-mail me off list, it will be easier 


Regards

Adrien

'What are you doing about the green paper proposals to
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      <title>[nvda] Re: Autorun fix that might help other NVDA users (Kieran Little)</title>
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      <description>can you attatch the file? it sounds like i may need it.
thanks, Kieran.


chat soon

Kieran

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      <title>[nvda] Re: Autorun fix that might help other NVDA users (Adrien)</title>
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      <description>Hi 


I also found another useful app called autofix.exe which
fixes cd's, flash drives, anything which isn't autorunning
and should, I have had it for a while but didn't realise it
worked for pen drives too. I imagine if you just google
autofix.exe you should be able to locate it or if need be I
can e-mail it to those who want it. It actually changes the
settings in the registry, something I wouldn't know how to
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Peter Beasley)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/atg4bjH_y1A/hi-all,107</link>
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      <description>My reasons are this. If people got used to using keystrokes that are 
provided by windows whereever possible, then there is less to have to 
relearn if they for whatever reason decide to change to another screen 
reader. Window-eyes provide a similar optin which up until windows xp was 
necessary but not anymore.
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From: Gene gsasner@xxxxxxxxx

To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:19 PM
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      <title>[nvda] 2 remarkable notes (Ibrahim Ahmad)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/M9tqyGyRb_c/2-remarkable-notes</link>
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      <description>hello all,
i noticed that the new RC virsion does not report the status bar in fire fox, 
NVDA always says no status bar found although i hear the progress bar beeb.
NVDA also still does not report the sellection in windowz explorer when 
pressing NVDA+SHIFT+UP ERRO. IT SAYS NO SELLECTION
DID YOU NOTICE THIS ALSO?
THANKS

IBRAHIM
SKYPE: IBRAHIM_AHMED2009
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      <title>[nvda] Re: other NVDA suggestion (shaun everiss)</title>
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      <description>well you get a cookie on your system I prefur not to save info.
its unsecure.
At 04:33 a.m. 8/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi,
 
When I go to www.gmail.com there is a checkbox that lets 
the website remember my sign-in information. Could youalso make it so that 
when you visit certain pages, NVDA remembers those websites and automatically 
either places you in a field you specify for that site, checks or unchecks a 
box for you, etcetera? Like on the gmail site that checkbox is always checked 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: Jart and NVDA - where do I find JART? (shaun everiss)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/5fKqIrRf_6o/Jart-and-NVDA-where-do-I-find-JART,10</link>
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      <description>www.jarte.com
At 04:45 a.m. 8/11/2009, you wrote:
Hi,
 
Where do I find JART?  I have tried doing a google on it but find lots of 
things other than the editor.
 
Thanks.


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      <title>[nvda] Re: voice profiles, .ini, suggestions for dev.... (shaun everiss)</title>
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      <description>what I usually do isconfig nvda on first install then copy it and use it on 
other systems.
I have rc1 of 2009.1
I firstly uninstalled well deleted the old version thenput the new one back in 
it.
then config the ini.
At 10:16 p.m. 7/11/2009, you wrote:
I think I'm right in saying that if it is just the ini file it will normally 
keep the data from the old one, but you will have problems if you copy a 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: web ie podcatcher/nvda freeze? (burt henry)</title>
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      <description>The more I think about it, the more I think I was listening to one 
podcast and saved another at the same time.(not listening to radio on 
winamp?)    The rest of what I wrote should be correct.
I just tried to duplicate the crash, but only got a few secs of silence 
when I checked show hidden and  deleted items., and then the list of 
BBC  podcasts I was checking out went away.(didn't do anything like that 
in the morning, but just wanted to see how stable the whole thing was)

Might have been a fluke this morning...
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      <title>[nvda] Re: web ie podcatcher/nvda freeze? (burt henry)</title>
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      <description>The more I think about it, the more I think I was listening to one 
podcast and saved another at the same time.(not listening to radio on 
winamp?)    The rest of what I wrote should be correct.
I just tried to duplicate the crash, but only got a few secs of silence 
when I checked show hidden and  deleted items., and then the list of 
BBC  podcasts I was checking out went away.(didn't do anything like that 
in the morning, but just wanted to see how stable the whole thing was)

Might have been a fluke this morning...
Cheers.
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      <title>[nvda] Re: web ie podcatcher/nvda freeze? (burt henry)</title>
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      <description>The more I think about it, the more I think I was listening to one 
podcast and saved another at the same time.(not listening to radio on 
winamp?)    The rest of what I wrote should be correct.
I just tried to duplicate the crash, but only got a few secs of silence 
when I checked show hidden and  deleted items., and then the list of 
BBC  podcasts I was checking out went away.(didn't do anything like that 
in the morning, but just wanted to see how stable the whole thing was)

Might have been a fluke this morning...
Cheers.
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      <title>[nvda] web ie podcatcher/nvda freeze? (burt henry)</title>
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      <description>Alasdair, if you're out there:
I have enjoyed using the accessible podcatcher that is part of the 
webie suite of blind-user friendly aps, but this morning as a down-load 
finished NVDA stopped talking, and podcatcher would not respond.  I was 
listening to streaming audio (winamp if I remember)  while down-loading 
a podcast, and after checking down-loaded file size in a standard folder 
in my docs everything froze. .
I had to go in and kill all webie processes.   Fortunately nvda could 
still read me the name of a process when I typed it's first letter using 
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      <title>[nvda] Chat messages in skype (Dr. Homiyar Mobedji)</title>
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      <description>Dear members,

I am using windows 7 with nvda rc 1.

there are a couple questions regarding the use of chat messages in skype:

1. how can I read the message if it is sent by someone. in jfw you can use alt 
1 alt 2... to go to the sequence and read them as they have arrived.
2. how do you know who is calling. in jfw with the help of the scripts 4.1b you 
cre informed of the callers name.
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      <title>[nvda] Re: jart (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/2IWo1gE-QkQ/jart,17</link>
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      <description>anyway, unloading/reloading jarte/nvda has worked every time since I 
installed the RC.  Maybe that one will need to be automated as well, 
that is if their is no screenreader mode key stroke.  Going to take a 
quick look a carte's docs.  I'm in the %70 that rarely read docs first, 
second, or for most aps ever;but reading is a good thing.

B.H.



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      <title>[nvda] Re: jart (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/YKpVhdpWJng/jart,16</link>
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      <description>no time to crash the menu reading now, but next time it happens...I'll 
check.  is there a hotkey to switch to screenreader mode when jarte 
doesn't recognize a screen-reader?

B.H.


On 11/7/2009 10:08 chela, Vince Thacker wrote:

Bert, suggestion from Jarte help - if you run narrator, does Jarte
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      <title>[nvda] Re: How to use Google Reader with NVDA/aria is here to stay/at least till....brain modems.... (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/oTVRIRPDYZE/How-to-use-Google-Reader-with-NVDAaria-is-here-to-stayat-least-tillbrain-modems</link>
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      <description>BTW-I still vote for changing subject line when more than one or two 
msgs go off on sub topics or tangents.

B.H.


On 11/7/2009 9:52 chela, Vince Thacker wrote:

I'm sure the developers would be a bit surprised to learn that ARIA
isn't a relevant topic here. I am too.
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      <title>[nvda] Re: How to use Google Reader with NVDA (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/2ZZmXy0HEas/How-to-use-Google-Reader-with-NVDA,10</link>
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      <description>I see you did not get what I was saying/aria is VERY relevant!  I was 
referring to a pointless debate?  as to whether there should or should 
not be such a thing as aria was not exactly NVDA stuff.  As I understand 
it the NVDA team wants to make it work as well responsible/wish I had a 
nice chunk of change to throw at that work.
As far as to how aria can be implemented best is a great topic.  How 
NVDA can presently deal with aria content is an excellent topic.  How 
the INTERNET should evolve is not a topic for more than a side comment 
on this group in my opinion.
And to some up, I agree with everything YOU and Jeff said; and was 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: jart (Vince Thacker)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/G36JHFm26Rk/jart,15</link>
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      <description>Bert, suggestion from Jarte help - if you run narrator, does Jarte display 
screen reader mode then? Sounds a bit circuitous, but might yield something.


Vince.

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From: burt henry burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx

To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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      <title>[nvda] Re: How to use Google Reader with NVDA (Vince Thacker)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/SfUW66Ky0p0/How-to-use-Google-Reader-with-NVDA,9</link>
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      <description>I'm sure the developers would be a bit surprised to learn that ARIA isn't a 
relevant topic here. I am too.


Vince.



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      <title>[nvda] Re: JARTE isn't reading menus with NVDA now (burt henry)</title>
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      <description>I actually thought about that, but as I'm fairly new to jarte don't know 
if there is a hot key to toggle screenreader mode, and if so what it is. 
 (can't read the menus when it goes south, but am I wanting to 
selectalt main menu?)
Anyway, since I installed the nvda RC yesterday every time I can't read 
the menus restarting both jarte and nvda at the same time does the 
trick/JARTE comes up in screenreader mode.  (still can't explain why 
this didn't work  couple of days ago, and why right after a reboot NVDA 
didn't read me the menu labels.)
Apart from having the RC now, I haven't done much, just normal defrag 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: jart (Timothy)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/oIryiE5hKVI/jart,14</link>
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      <description>Did you guys make sure that Jawrte was still in the screenreader mode? 
Sometimes NVDA doesn't throw the flag out, or Jarte somehow misses it.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Griffith d.griffith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:19 PM
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      <title>[nvda] Re: JARTE isn't reading menus with NVDA now (Timothy)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/fXXK1N0NCNY/JARTE-isnt-reading-menus-with-NVDA-now,18</link>
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      <description>Make sure it says (Screenreader Mode) in the title of the app.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: burt henry burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx

To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: JARTE isn't reading menus with NVDA now

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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Trenton Matthews)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/VG_7FeJiRF0/hi-all,106</link>
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      <description>Shall find out about that for ya after i get win 7 installed.
Waiting for new dell charger.
Should be here monday in fact.
We shall see.

On 11/7/2009 4:50 PM, burt henry wrote:
I don't like the clutter/prefer to hide the inactives, but in the 
control panel in xp there are a few other little tweaks one can 
perform.  I am sure in win 7 it gives more or different options, but 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: Jart and NVDA - where do I find JART? (Trenton Matthews)</title>
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      <description>Its got a silent E in there.
Shall look for a proper pronounciation.

On 11/7/2009 4:46 PM, burt henry wrote:

by whom?


On 11/7/2009 5:28 chela, Trenton Matthews wrote:
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/fdP4uq_PP9M/hi-all,105</link>
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      <description>I don't like the clutter/prefer to hide the inactives, but in the 
control panel in xp there are a few other little tweaks one can perform. 
 I am sure in win 7 it gives more or different options, but can't say 
exactly what they are.

B.H.

On 11/7/2009 5:35 chela, Trenton Matthews wrote:

Tip:
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      <description>Also,
If an alternative system tray was added here, the windows+b command, 
would of course be avoided, and that would be miss leading i'm afraid.

Yep? It'd be totally miss leading.
If NVDA was gonna design something like that, it should have been made 
when 0.5 was out. Now  I don't see a point to having it.
I may be a win Eyes user, and that reader has a tray feature, however no 
GW Micro staff encourages them to use that feature as its main way of 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: Jart and NVDA - where do I find JART? (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/BRcl-gQpld4/Jart-and-NVDA-where-do-I-find-JART,8</link>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.freelists.org/post/nvda/Jart-and-NVDA-where-do-I-find-JART,8</guid>
      <description>by whom?


On 11/7/2009 5:28 chela, Trenton Matthews wrote:

Jarte by the way is pronounced:

Jartay

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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/3xm5lqvpzM8/hi-all,103</link>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.freelists.org/post/nvda/hi-all,103</guid>
      <description>Yes, but many computers, (at least xp) set ups only give the task 
manager and not the log off...options when you press

ctr+alt+del
My acer was that way, and this dell gives you all the choices.
B.H.

On 11/7/2009 5:24 chela, Trenton Matthews wrote:

Hi,
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/8LIlxeI9XB8/hi-all,102</link>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.freelists.org/post/nvda/hi-all,102</guid>
      <description>no, at least for me it is no better than NVDA. One has to gues by list 
order for some icons.

B.H.


On 11/7/2009 4:39 chela, List account Brians (downstairs) wrote:

Maybe Jaws can tell what the unclicked items are from the word go,
rather than saying button or something or other.
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      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/u8OZjk_nfZU/hi-all,101</link>
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      <description>yes, and other diag tools as well, and there is no doubt that the prob 
is with the ISP; but as I told them I am tired of checking out what is 
wrong with them as I am not payed to do so.  My job is to make the money 
to pay their monthly fees, and that is all.  They mostly agree that the 
problem is with there system, but can't seem to get it sorted out.
There were even more problems on there end, but they have fixed a few of 
them. But at the end of the day the connection is still very shaky 
between me and the local central switching center, and some excessive 
timing out a few hops away as well.  If n\money were no object I'd 
change isps yesterday, but until we make a deal I need to hang in there. 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Trenton Matthews)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/fX0Qe4-ZOmQ/hi-all,100</link>
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      <description>Tip:

Press windows+b to access the tray.
Press alt+tab to open taskbar and start menu props.
press tab til you hear Hide enactive icons, and make sure box is unchecked.
Then press enter.
Also, its better to move up and down through the tray, then moving left 
and right.

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      <title>[nvda] Re: Release Candidate--yes or no (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/FDmUzqht2Qo/Release-Candidateyes-or-no,3</link>
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      <description>there are presentation differences between browsers on some pages.  I 
used to hear that some FF users kept ie ready for a few pages that 
looked better in the ms monster, but of late I have heard that the trend 
is going the other way/nicer views from FF 3.5  They say not only does 
it render a good bit quicker, but a tad nicer also.  I would not know.


On 11/7/2009 4:33 chela, List account Brians (downstairs) wrote:

So do I in fact I have IE6 and 7 and two versions of Firefox and
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      <title>[nvda] Re: Jart and NVDA - where do I find JART? (Trenton Matthews)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/rvmrsl59adw/Jart-and-NVDA-where-do-I-find-JART,7</link>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.freelists.org/post/nvda/Jart-and-NVDA-where-do-I-find-JART,7</guid>
      <description>Jarte by the way is pronounced:

Jartay

On 11/7/2009 9:42 AM, Gene wrote:
I didn't check the spelling but I did try the search I suggested 
before sending the message and it worked very well.  I generally use 
correct spellings in searches but Google is designed to attempt to 
compensate for incorrect spelling and minor errors often produce as 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: Jart and NVDA - where do I find JART? (Trenton Matthews)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/QMaPSgW4jzA/Jart-and-NVDA-where-do-I-find-JART,6</link>
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      <description>On 11/7/2009 8:45 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi,
Where do I find JART?  I have tried doing a google on it but find lots 
of things other than the editor.

Thanks.
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      <title>[nvda] Re: voice profiles, .ini, suggestions for dev.... (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/oz3l1fyNzTw/voice-profiles-ini-suggestions-for-dev,6</link>
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      <description>thought about that, but you are right about the restart/could be put in 
the batch.  When I get the time, and get a clear answer about .ini 
compatibility.

B.H.


On 11/7/2009 4:28 chela, List account Brians (downstairs) wrote:

Well you could always make a nice renaming or moving batch file to do
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Trenton Matthews)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/9PXgjx77JTE/hi-all,99</link>
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      <description>Hi,

Most likely answered already, but the shortcut key for task manager is 
control+shift+escape.


Hope that helps!

Trenton, the T Man!
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      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/HBgKOcgN8C0/hi-all,98</link>
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      <description>it can't be much easier, as so many key-strokes are if not the same, 
similar.  For me the thing is not to try and copy jaws functionality, 
but do things that jfw, win-eyes, hal?/never used it, and screen access 
don't do, or don't do well.

B.H.
P.S.-an exec with gw micro said something to the effect that if one had 
the chance it would be best for them to not only have win-eyes, but at 
least one other good screen reader.  There is so much ground to cover, 
and FS has 100 ppl working directly for them(more or less); NVDA has 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/TIKkCupvST4/hi-all,97</link>
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      <description>for me the thing is I don't know what the writer disagreed with in your 
msg, Gene....



On 11/7/2009 3:19 chela, Gene wrote:

Just saying you disagree means nothing if you don't explain your reasons.

Gene
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (burt henry)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/eMGdSD5-q8k/hi-all,96</link>
      <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.freelists.org/post/nvda/hi-all,96</guid>
      <description>most comp-users don't read docs;blind or blinder.(and the same for 
sighted ppl

B.H. )

On 11/7/2009 3:07 chela, Gene wrote:

but as I said before when this topic came up, the system tray dialog
that many screen-readers provide has become such a standard part of
using Windows as a blind person that NVDA should have such a feature. If
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      <title>[nvda] Re: nvda and klango (Brian Gaff)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/KqLg4948q4c/nvda-and-klango,3</link>
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      <description>Erm, not sure this would go down well and it would be  nightmare to keep up 
to date.


Brian

This account only receives email from the list. Please direct any personal 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: nvda and klango (Trenton Matthews)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/v7DIycoofYA/nvda-and-klango,2</link>
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      <description>Never thought of it, but NVDA does indeed put itself to sleep while 
klango is running, so why couldn't NVDA be a part of it?

That indeed is a good idea!

On 11/5/2009 11:43 AM, Chris Hallsworth wrote:

Hey why not! Would certainly increase promotion.

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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (List account Brians \(downstairs\))</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/q2Uki-jSpRs/hi-all,95</link>
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      <description>Maybe Jaws can tell what the unclicked items are from the word go, rather 
than  saying button or something or other.


Not having used it I'm in the dark here.

If the original  person could explain a bit more we might be missing 
something here!


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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (List account Brians \(downstairs\))</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/2omRMjBubug/hi-all,94</link>
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      <description>It sounds like a network problem on your isp to me. Have you tried pinging 
or traceroute?

Brian
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From: burt henry burt1iband@xxxxxxxxx

To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: hi all
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      <title>[nvda] Re: Release Candidate--yes or no (List account Brians \(downstairs\))</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/qpSDpHT7nuY/Release-Candidateyes-or-no,2</link>
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      <description>So do I in fact I have IE6 and 7 and two versions of Firefox and seamonkey 
here on various machines, and here is what I find.
Basically some differences between IE and firfox in the actual order of some 
pages, but sigheed folk may well get the same. There is that strange  couple 
of problems on Microsoft web sites one with Windows update in which the 
checkboxes in custom run IE into a loop for some reason, but you cannot use 
Firefox on update in any case, and the country selection in IE6, which is 
fixed if you use a different browser.


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      <title>[nvda] Re: voice profiles, .ini, suggestions for dev.... (List account Brians \(downstairs\))</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/b5N8H8z0wkk/voice-profiles-ini-suggestions-for-dev,5</link>
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      <description>Well you could always make a nice renaming or moving batch file to do what 
you want, but you would still have to restart nvda I imagine, to make it see 
the new file.


Brian
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To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Kevin Cussick)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/_V5TMtLqwVg/hi-all,93</link>
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      <description>Hello,

For what it's worth I agree I think it should be implemented.

It's a key that does nothing in nvda and I'm not a programmer so I will 
take a guess and say that I don't think it would be that hard to implement.


I know quite a few jfw users now are using nvda as well as jfw,  I think 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Gene)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/9wC9KQ6rwls/hi-all,92</link>
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      <description>Just saying you disagree means nothing if you don't explain your reasons.

Gene
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To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: hi all
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Peter Beasley)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/8tnGEV2AlFA/hi-all,91</link>
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      <description>I disagree.
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From: Gene gsasner@xxxxxxxxx

To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: hi all


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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Gene)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/t3rjfqOJ_UE/hi-all,90</link>
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      <description>but as I said before when this topic came up, the system tray dialog that 
many screen-readers provide has become such a standard part of using Windows 
as a blind person that NVDA should have such a feature.  If we knew that 
most blind people who are expected to use NVDA would read documentation, 
this would be a minor issue.  but most blind screen-reader users don't learn 
much about their screen-reader. Also, currently, I see nothing directly 
dealing with how to use the System Tray in the documentation.  There is one 
very brief reference about how to open the NVDA menu from the system tray 
but there is no section explaining how to use the System tray.  Nothing is 
explained such as that enter when using the system tray is equivalent to 
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      <title>[nvda] Re: hi all (Peter Beasley)</title>
      <link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/nvda/~3/4sbV4bXdCo4/hi-all,89</link>
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      <description>NVDA does work with the system tray. Just use windoes key  b which as I said 
earlier is a standard windows command so why the need for something else.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Daniel McGee 
  To: nvda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:53 PM
  Subject: [nvda] Re: hi all


  Hi Kieran, welcom to the list of NVDA! Yes I agree with you it would be nice 
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