http://www.freelists.org/list/pure-silver Archive of posts for pure-silver at FreeLists http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/QZBMJey51yc/Tim-Rudman-interview-for-the-OCA-on-The-Freeman-View http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Tim-Rudman-interview-for-the-OCA-on-The-Freeman-View This interview has recently been released for the OCA by Michael Freeman. I've spent the last 2 days wondering whether to publicise it to Pure Silver. Finally modesty failed me. J Tim ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/FyqMWNaBxrKXDrnYqUKO71JXvyY/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/FyqMWNaBxrKXDrnYqUKO71JXvyY/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/FyqMWNaBxrKXDrnYqUKO71JXvyY/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/FyqMWNaBxrKXDrnYqUKO71JXvyY/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/QZBMJey51yc" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Tim-Rudman-interview-for-the-OCA-on-The-Freeman-View http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/SGuRKcv2MBg/FW-November-14-Exhibit-In-Tucson-for-John-Itnyre http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/FW-November-14-Exhibit-In-Tucson-for-John-Itnyre John Itnyre blackandwhite32@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Itnyre To: Jacqueline Itnyre ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/26Nrvae5WVkbPzkUJ9vr8z8PNB0/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/26Nrvae5WVkbPzkUJ9vr8z8PNB0/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/26Nrvae5WVkbPzkUJ9vr8z8PNB0/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/26Nrvae5WVkbPzkUJ9vr8z8PNB0/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/SGuRKcv2MBg" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/FW-November-14-Exhibit-In-Tucson-for-John-Itnyre http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/SDvHCP5KrAc/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,5 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,5 Richard Knoppow wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Kershaw tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Possible optical defect caused by hair or dust within lens? ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/zGlZmWXGecxEzeOzaGwjwNBAiD0/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/zGlZmWXGecxEzeOzaGwjwNBAiD0/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/zGlZmWXGecxEzeOzaGwjwNBAiD0/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/zGlZmWXGecxEzeOzaGwjwNBAiD0/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/SDvHCP5KrAc" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,5 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/XM6oZ5D8e6M/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,4 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,4 Richard Knoppow wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Kershaw tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx My posting on APUG hasn't generated anything by way of a response, and as there isn't total overlap between pure-silver and APUG I thought I should post here. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/jqnXgzyDsRR9mQnO0mwWps75fpE/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/jqnXgzyDsRR9mQnO0mwWps75fpE/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/jqnXgzyDsRR9mQnO0mwWps75fpE/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/jqnXgzyDsRR9mQnO0mwWps75fpE/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/XM6oZ5D8e6M" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,4 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/rMq5lo4H5VM/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,3 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,3 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Kershaw tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Possible optical defect caused by hair or dust within lens? ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/5j1ylyz9WU-ww8bh05ig_sD_N9s/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/5j1ylyz9WU-ww8bh05ig_sD_N9s/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/5j1ylyz9WU-ww8bh05ig_sD_N9s/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/5j1ylyz9WU-ww8bh05ig_sD_N9s/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/rMq5lo4H5VM" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,3 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/e2sS6CfvgVI/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,2 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,2 Does the hair move around at all? or is it stuck to the glass. If it is in the same place, then I'd look for a repeating mark in ALL images shot at the same f stop. However, That looks a lot more like a processing flaw than a light problem. A light block would make a light area on your neg. Lighter on a neg, prints darker not lighter. EXTRA density, a lighter area on an RA4 print, can come from photo stabilizer or a kink from film loading. The fairly regular shape also does NOT match the irregular shape of the hair. You would also need to be stopped way down to focus that dirt or hair onto the film plane. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Xh8uCuH2DUczlbArw33ZDOkfWCc/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Xh8uCuH2DUczlbArw33ZDOkfWCc/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Xh8uCuH2DUczlbArw33ZDOkfWCc/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Xh8uCuH2DUczlbArw33ZDOkfWCc/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/e2sS6CfvgVI" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,2 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/eCEZrVPkwaA/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,1 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Possible-optical-defect-caused-by-hair-or-dust-within-lens,1 The photo showing the defect doesn't tell us it's orientation relative to the film. Is the long mark running lengthwise? My first guess, since you've not scanned the film yet, is a processing problem such as stabilizer/final rinse marks. Scanning the film will tell u if it's a print issue or film. 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Exploitative? I don't know. I don't know the photographer. My guess is that he did not take these photos for any reason but took them for his own memory of the last days of one of the most important people in his life. I forwarded this link to many of my friends and family. The ones I forwarded it to were the ones with experience with loved ones whose last days were affected by Alzheimers. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/lSdRlA04QS-UeXqcjhCIgDxRAHQ/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/lSdRlA04QS-UeXqcjhCIgDxRAHQ/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/lSdRlA04QS-UeXqcjhCIgDxRAHQ/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/lSdRlA04QS-UeXqcjhCIgDxRAHQ/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/S9wUWg1Zsck" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,19 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/qyrDfY2URKY/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,18 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,18 I'm sure my wife would have killed me, and that would have been my last photograph. The toilet photo was especially poignant for me - walking dad to the bathroom, and helping sit, and get back up, was one of the few things I could do for him towards the end. He let me feel like I was being useful, and I let him feel like he could still do it on his own. A win-win in a losing battle. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/8mb_qoea-tXKRqsIbIQrVYti97M/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/8mb_qoea-tXKRqsIbIQrVYti97M/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/8mb_qoea-tXKRqsIbIQrVYti97M/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/8mb_qoea-tXKRqsIbIQrVYti97M/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/qyrDfY2URKY" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,18 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/ctHgAwIOZKw/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,17 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,17 I can see how you'd see it that way. I think the problem is editing, and the poor layout of the site, and the poorly placed yet beautiful and important text. We buried my dad two days ago, and I have to say that I found his decline over the past few months, and then in his final hours to be one of the most profound, and touching experiences of my life. I did not have the courage to document any of it. I thought like you, that this is something left for the memory, and not something to show. But seeing another man of my age tenderly attend to his father in his last days gave me some company. I didn't feel like voyeur at all. I didn't ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/lVSzWZvQKzH7zIRTe_N3EhyygVI/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/lVSzWZvQKzH7zIRTe_N3EhyygVI/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/lVSzWZvQKzH7zIRTe_N3EhyygVI/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/lVSzWZvQKzH7zIRTe_N3EhyygVI/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/ctHgAwIOZKw" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,17 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/YN5JluVg1nw/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,16 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,16 DEAR DON, Well said. We must remember that a photo that creates a feeling of discomfort is not necessarily bad. The precedent of an affectionate photo of someone on the throne was established by Lartigue when he photographed his new bride, Bibi, on the throne the first morning of their honeymoon. It is embarrassingly intimate and affectionate...and that is exactly what makes it so amazing and memorable. 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Now that I am in my 60s I greet essays like this and videos by the Zimmers (link below) with a big warm smile. We all hope to age gracefully and perhaps skip the realities. Media worships youth, fewer warts. The Zimmers My Generation Released: 28/05/07 A Zimmer frame is a walker and I love the irony. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/BLpCaPKdaxVAsmv_jdgvLXDtwEw/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/BLpCaPKdaxVAsmv_jdgvLXDtwEw/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/BLpCaPKdaxVAsmv_jdgvLXDtwEw/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/BLpCaPKdaxVAsmv_jdgvLXDtwEw/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/hHGnCWVSm3s" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,15 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/yN5TGNvXMrc/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,14 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,14 Nicely put Don Tim -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [] On Behalf Of Don Sweet Sent: 06 November 2009 04:57 To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Wonderful Photo Essay ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Br8Ema49fiTUYSCqyFNqYq2U174/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Br8Ema49fiTUYSCqyFNqYq2U174/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Br8Ema49fiTUYSCqyFNqYq2U174/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Br8Ema49fiTUYSCqyFNqYq2U174/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/yN5TGNvXMrc" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,14 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/XXrp8a0eRjE/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,13 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,13 in a nutshell. ________________________________ From: Don Sweet don@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 10:56:54 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Wonderful Photo Essay ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/t9afdmQ7N1D3lPdz1yckwkzNN4Y/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/t9afdmQ7N1D3lPdz1yckwkzNN4Y/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/t9afdmQ7N1D3lPdz1yckwkzNN4Y/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/t9afdmQ7N1D3lPdz1yckwkzNN4Y/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/XXrp8a0eRjE" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,13 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/ByLlgztcfso/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,12 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,12 of course one could argue their point blablabla but it would be to no end since we all react differently and come from different places to cause that reaction. if one realizes we all end up in that state to one degree or another, a bond we all share, and really witness the way he was cared for by the author, it does make your reaction interesting. i'll have to learn to be less of a cranky old fart if i want to get as nice a piece done on me.. if I reach that age. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/0osDyv-J4AaioctJyrqIFe_xNqE/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/0osDyv-J4AaioctJyrqIFe_xNqE/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/0osDyv-J4AaioctJyrqIFe_xNqE/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/0osDyv-J4AaioctJyrqIFe_xNqE/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/ByLlgztcfso" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,12 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/4ghwrnVKzBI/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,11 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,11 Hi David It would be natural to regard some of those photos exploitative or demeaning. But don't you find that analysis is ruled out by the context - specially the words, and the overwhelming message of affection and respect that the full series conveys. The only unfortunate photo I thought was dad on the throne, although the image itself was reasonably discreet, and it was probably just the text that made me wince. 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Dennis On Nov 5, 2009, at 20:06, Eric Nelson wrote: I found your take on the photos interesting. My reaction was more like those in the comments section. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/5J1xCbFTVt7rhXbmAzg0jFvJToo/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/5J1xCbFTVt7rhXbmAzg0jFvJToo/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/5J1xCbFTVt7rhXbmAzg0jFvJToo/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/5J1xCbFTVt7rhXbmAzg0jFvJToo/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/LM6raWvzXt0" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,10 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/33DxgtMxPqo/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,9 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,9 I found your take on the photos interesting. My reaction was more like those in the comments section. ________________________________ From: Dennis Purdy dlp4777@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 6:30:12 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Wonderful Photo Essay ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/MmP3PN-9JEXT0iRuscLp4spmIkA/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/MmP3PN-9JEXT0iRuscLp4spmIkA/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/MmP3PN-9JEXT0iRuscLp4spmIkA/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/MmP3PN-9JEXT0iRuscLp4spmIkA/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/33DxgtMxPqo" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,9 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/ZfGJgTVWbGw/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,8 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,8 Dennis Purdy wrote: I was able to open it twice without trouble on a Mac with Safari 4.0.3. I find the photos somewhat offensive. I certainly hope someone doesn't make a study of me at my weakest time when I am dying. If he wanted to do a tribute to his father, why not dig up old photos representing the best of his life and relationships. I don't feel like I learned anything about anything with these photos. Dennis I think the point was as much about the photographer's journey as it was ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/fys4SPOhyBBIufL6VjmI7Ct2or0/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/fys4SPOhyBBIufL6VjmI7Ct2or0/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/fys4SPOhyBBIufL6VjmI7Ct2or0/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/fys4SPOhyBBIufL6VjmI7Ct2or0/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/ZfGJgTVWbGw" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,8 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/6bR1kdNIdEE/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,7 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,7 I was able to open it twice without trouble on a Mac with Safari 4.0.3. I find the photos somewhat offensive. I certainly hope someone doesn't make a study of me at my weakest time when I am dying. If he wanted to do a tribute to his father, why not dig up old photos representing the best of his life and relationships. I don't feel like I learned anything about anything with these photos. Dennis ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/XGjHzj68DwCnivG7lvNpRW5LJvI/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/XGjHzj68DwCnivG7lvNpRW5LJvI/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/XGjHzj68DwCnivG7lvNpRW5LJvI/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/XGjHzj68DwCnivG7lvNpRW5LJvI/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/6bR1kdNIdEE" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,7 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/P2M8c8zh92E/How-to-use-retouching-fluid,2 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/How-to-use-retouching-fluid,2 ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Goldstein sgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:39 AM Subject: [pure-silver] How to use retouching fluid? ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/P09AXiHP68c1Djhn8oq0DXwsGzc/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/P09AXiHP68c1Djhn8oq0DXwsGzc/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/P09AXiHP68c1Djhn8oq0DXwsGzc/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/P09AXiHP68c1Djhn8oq0DXwsGzc/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/P2M8c8zh92E" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/How-to-use-retouching-fluid,2 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/f85n2gqyWMw/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,6 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,6 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Daneliuk tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:27 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Wonderful Photo Essay ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/F4FFu5RFnYVHqoajT9kUPYr8O-A/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/F4FFu5RFnYVHqoajT9kUPYr8O-A/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/F4FFu5RFnYVHqoajT9kUPYr8O-A/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/F4FFu5RFnYVHqoajT9kUPYr8O-A/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/f85n2gqyWMw" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,6 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/7DGsu5aXVbA/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,5 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,5 Oh gosh... he scared me. I couldn't get in, originally, through the link provided here. I googled his name and found his site (I believed), but as it was opening I saw a section that said, phone sex. AAAGH... I quickly closed it, afraid some kind of weirdness would come into my computer. hahaaha I was at the right place afterall, but still can't get into the days with my father place. Oh well, I'll try later. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/fjfHyvMpt5E8Vg__H5W4ICnzSQw/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/fjfHyvMpt5E8Vg__H5W4ICnzSQw/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/fjfHyvMpt5E8Vg__H5W4ICnzSQw/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/fjfHyvMpt5E8Vg__H5W4ICnzSQw/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/7DGsu5aXVbA" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,5 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/tNvQAu-25_c/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,4 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,4 Me too. On Nov 5, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Philippe Ayral wrote: Here is the message I got: Service Unavailable ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/-tG8Ps1K3W7iEsHSapMeK-T6l8A/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/-tG8Ps1K3W7iEsHSapMeK-T6l8A/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/-tG8Ps1K3W7iEsHSapMeK-T6l8A/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/-tG8Ps1K3W7iEsHSapMeK-T6l8A/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/tNvQAu-25_c" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,4 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/KV25vT3kne0/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,3 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,3 I got in fine. Thanks Tim it is wonderful. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Daneliuk To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:04 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Wonderful Photo Essay ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/L0jIQpP_VkAWhqQ1c0RWSO1w5gQ/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/L0jIQpP_VkAWhqQ1c0RWSO1w5gQ/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/L0jIQpP_VkAWhqQ1c0RWSO1w5gQ/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/L0jIQpP_VkAWhqQ1c0RWSO1w5gQ/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/KV25vT3kne0" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,3 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/62CNe0gsz2k/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,2 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,2 Philippe Ayral wrote: Here is the message I got: Service Unavailable] It is probably flooded with people trying to get in. Try again later. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/x5ZAwNekqyF3HYEKu0ydZhlhdL8/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/x5ZAwNekqyF3HYEKu0ydZhlhdL8/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/x5ZAwNekqyF3HYEKu0ydZhlhdL8/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/x5ZAwNekqyF3HYEKu0ydZhlhdL8/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/62CNe0gsz2k" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,2 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/rT69AFaatA0/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,1 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,1 Here is the message I got: Service Unavailable 2009/11/5 Tim Daneliuk tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/7y2mawa-5mJyNTb6v8MCXt82cRQ/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/7y2mawa-5mJyNTb6v8MCXt82cRQ/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/7y2mawa-5mJyNTb6v8MCXt82cRQ/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/7y2mawa-5mJyNTb6v8MCXt82cRQ/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/rT69AFaatA0" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay,1 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/pQOyC775wTQ/How-to-use-retouching-fluid,1 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/How-to-use-retouching-fluid,1 Steve... Some cotton wool with a dab or two of the fluid to dampen (but not too wet). Lay the negative emulsion side down and apply to the base with small circular motion and set aside to dry for a few minutes,to leave a clear 'roughened' surface to which a sharpened retouching (or soft graphite) pencil held at a ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/TNAiaa2XAKkFC2o6mpnYybesA0A/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/TNAiaa2XAKkFC2o6mpnYybesA0A/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/TNAiaa2XAKkFC2o6mpnYybesA0A/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/TNAiaa2XAKkFC2o6mpnYybesA0A/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/pQOyC775wTQ" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/How-to-use-retouching-fluid,1 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/dTpH937O00Y/Wonderful-Photo-Essay http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/42XCL_UMKhqUSepa2rCunViUjLw/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/42XCL_UMKhqUSepa2rCunViUjLw/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/42XCL_UMKhqUSepa2rCunViUjLw/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/42XCL_UMKhqUSepa2rCunViUjLw/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/dTpH937O00Y" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Wonderful-Photo-Essay http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/awEypk7-3yU/How-to-use-retouching-fluid http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/How-to-use-retouching-fluid I've come into a couple of bottles of Kodak retouching fluid and have no idea how it's used. Does anyone out there remember this stuff? Richard? TIA steve ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/PZ-kfmgGbQ_XVibC6uyjVs9gghE/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/PZ-kfmgGbQ_XVibC6uyjVs9gghE/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/PZ-kfmgGbQ_XVibC6uyjVs9gghE/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/PZ-kfmgGbQ_XVibC6uyjVs9gghE/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/awEypk7-3yU" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/How-to-use-retouching-fluid http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/OVSgP2d2O-w/Lith-printing-materials-update,5 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,5 I should be sending out soon Bob. I'm just waiting for some changes to the website to come through, but they always seem longer than expected. Tim -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [] On Behalf Of BOB KISS Sent: 05 November 2009 13:41 To: 'BOB KISS'; pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Lith printing materials update ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/GEFj8tz__fGRdsrgnk5lEP8KkIk/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/GEFj8tz__fGRdsrgnk5lEP8KkIk/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/GEFj8tz__fGRdsrgnk5lEP8KkIk/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/GEFj8tz__fGRdsrgnk5lEP8KkIk/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/OVSgP2d2O-w" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,5 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/yN0kMg1oKaU/Lith-printing-materials-update,4 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,4 Oops! My Bad! Sorry Tim. I just read further down your e-mail about sending a link to those of us already signed up. CHEERS! BOB -----Original Message----- From: BOB KISS [] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:11 AM To: 'pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/AAJE8L986xDWhWUiBg800N8zWyM/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/AAJE8L986xDWhWUiBg800N8zWyM/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/AAJE8L986xDWhWUiBg800N8zWyM/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/AAJE8L986xDWhWUiBg800N8zWyM/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/yN0kMg1oKaU" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,4 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/h_Evkr9UEaU/Lith-printing-materials-update,3 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,3 DEAR TIM, I must be missing something. I am already signed up on your mailing list but I can't find the lith printing papers and developers guide list on your site. Pse advise. CHEERS! BOB -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [] On Behalf Of Tim Rudman ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/xvLBxIzwwd-vGzdsp0o4byTdCik/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/xvLBxIzwwd-vGzdsp0o4byTdCik/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/xvLBxIzwwd-vGzdsp0o4byTdCik/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/xvLBxIzwwd-vGzdsp0o4byTdCik/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/h_Evkr9UEaU" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,3 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/8iRlzRzBuRs/Lith-printing-materials-update,2 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,2 You're welcome Tom No news yet on either of the Ilford products. I think it will be a while yet for the lithable product. They have to retro engineer the lithable paper and use older technology they don't have in use so it isn't straightforward. I'm promised to be the first to know and as soon as I do I will cascade the info down to my mailing list. Best wishes Tim ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/411K2P7mF-kzQwlaOqN_Xysv0hs/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/411K2P7mF-kzQwlaOqN_Xysv0hs/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/411K2P7mF-kzQwlaOqN_Xysv0hs/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/411K2P7mF-kzQwlaOqN_Xysv0hs/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/8iRlzRzBuRs" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,2 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/9q5Z-AK_H48/Lith-printing-materials-update,1 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,1 Tim, Firstly, thanks for the update on materials; although I wonder what has happened to the new variable contrast Kentmere papers, in addition to the ILFORD branded lith paper. Statements on APUG from earlier this year (spring) gave the impression the new Kentmere papers would be introduced this Autumn, while news about the lith paper was put out in the summer. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/UAouvSRBBqIKE9xK0Mt7WPiUz7s/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/UAouvSRBBqIKE9xK0Mt7WPiUz7s/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/UAouvSRBBqIKE9xK0Mt7WPiUz7s/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/UAouvSRBBqIKE9xK0Mt7WPiUz7s/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/9q5Z-AK_H48" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update,1 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/Wnq6ZJjGD28/daguerreotype-gallery,5 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/daguerreotype-gallery,5 Yes, and the images we see on the computer may not do justice to the originals. We saw some full plate daguerreotypes at the Cleveland Art Museum that were in excellent condition and they were stunning. Janet Ness From: greg@xxxxxxx ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/bLbFuWUICmhLvMTcCI9XV7Z-Wc4/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/bLbFuWUICmhLvMTcCI9XV7Z-Wc4/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/bLbFuWUICmhLvMTcCI9XV7Z-Wc4/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/bLbFuWUICmhLvMTcCI9XV7Z-Wc4/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/Wnq6ZJjGD28" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/daguerreotype-gallery,5 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/tHye-tLHpYY/Lith-printing-materials-update http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update For those of you interested in Lith printing: Just to let you know that I have updated the lith printing papers and developers guide list available on my website (www.timrudman.com). Up to date as far as I know as of end October. It can be hard to keep up with these in these changing times. Includes deletions, rebadges, new and expected new products etc. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/quJa7EqLEdqujwGuWBgkJG94heU/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/quJa7EqLEdqujwGuWBgkJG94heU/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/quJa7EqLEdqujwGuWBgkJG94heU/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/quJa7EqLEdqujwGuWBgkJG94heU/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/tHye-tLHpYY" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Lith-printing-materials-update http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/qEY_Kw9lmLw/glassine-sleevesenvelopes,2 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/glassine-sleevesenvelopes,2 Maybe it's just a US term. Glassines Found a supplier that is waiting for an order of 200K of them before the do a run. Ummm....not gonna happen. But they did direct me to one of their distributors so an order of 1K is possible. When you have 20-30 rolls of film to do a week, sliding strips into archival pages of whatever brand is unappealing time-wise plus the headache of keeping rolls collated. I put the entire roll into one of these, write the twin check ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/iBBW3PB1_P4JyYhtv8e2Gm5_qH0/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/iBBW3PB1_P4JyYhtv8e2Gm5_qH0/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/iBBW3PB1_P4JyYhtv8e2Gm5_qH0/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/iBBW3PB1_P4JyYhtv8e2Gm5_qH0/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/qEY_Kw9lmLw" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/glassine-sleevesenvelopes,2 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/Nx5BCoBEJzI/glassine-sleevesenvelopes,1 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/glassine-sleevesenvelopes,1 Sorry to be even more ignorant than usual, but: what are glassines ? Here you can still buy large flat tubes of clear flexible plasrtic to put the entire film into. Then you can cut this. The tube has a slit at the back, you can open the tube from the back to get the film out, without pulling it lengthwise (which scrtches the film). Is that any help ? ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/wM8nMVNGkA2jVTK8zHUQ06R58Hw/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/wM8nMVNGkA2jVTK8zHUQ06R58Hw/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/wM8nMVNGkA2jVTK8zHUQ06R58Hw/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/wM8nMVNGkA2jVTK8zHUQ06R58Hw/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/Nx5BCoBEJzI" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/glassine-sleevesenvelopes,1 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/mrotE-ZQzC4/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,3 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,3 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [pure-silver] Re: $45 Negatives Could be Lost Ansel Adams Photos - KTLA From: Ken Hough Photo Repair krhoughii@xxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, October 31, 2009 7:51 am To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/9Tdm8h0SmBFAzmB8sfACkv2Vogk/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/9Tdm8h0SmBFAzmB8sfACkv2Vogk/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/9Tdm8h0SmBFAzmB8sfACkv2Vogk/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/9Tdm8h0SmBFAzmB8sfACkv2Vogk/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/mrotE-ZQzC4" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,3 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/fUyXap4NacI/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,2 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,2 ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/kN48MBQwyjiKmxGw_33-6seVDcU/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/kN48MBQwyjiKmxGw_33-6seVDcU/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/kN48MBQwyjiKmxGw_33-6seVDcU/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/kN48MBQwyjiKmxGw_33-6seVDcU/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/fUyXap4NacI" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,2 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/O7Ery0IZQls/Film-Holder-Adapters,10 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,10 Double sided can go at the back of the film towards the middle and thus hold larger sheets flatter. I think I first encountered this as a suggestion for doing long time exposures where there can be a problem with large format film slipping in the holder. All the best Larry On Saturday, October 31, 2009, at 01:49AM, Martin magid martin.magid@xxxxxxxxx wrote: ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Pw0R0FeJz3nbLQ89Mxzyyr1EkDQ/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Pw0R0FeJz3nbLQ89Mxzyyr1EkDQ/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Pw0R0FeJz3nbLQ89Mxzyyr1EkDQ/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Pw0R0FeJz3nbLQ89Mxzyyr1EkDQ/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/O7Ery0IZQls" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,10 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/CUZn0R8O1DI/Film-Holder-Adapters,9 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,9 Hi Marty! For pinhole use, it might be easiest to cap the lens like olden days, if the Graphic curtain won't cap. Best, Rich On Oct 30, 2009 10:49 PM, Martin magid martin.magid@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, and I'm especially intrigued by the double-sided tape solution, but why not single-sided tape? It would hold the film down, too, and I probably wouldn't have to use tape the entire length of all the sides. But doing it in the dark would be difficult in either case. (No snarky remarks, please). ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/aJXUlcbVAu_LrUFT9XuKs2qE01I/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/aJXUlcbVAu_LrUFT9XuKs2qE01I/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/aJXUlcbVAu_LrUFT9XuKs2qE01I/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/aJXUlcbVAu_LrUFT9XuKs2qE01I/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/CUZn0R8O1DI" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,9 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/DB_KUJWF2jg/Film-Holder-Adapters,8 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,8 P.S. By Googling on Film Holder Adapters, I got some interesting patents. Marty ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/DAJdEHUMntQWlA6_8RQVbqfbftE/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/DAJdEHUMntQWlA6_8RQVbqfbftE/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/DAJdEHUMntQWlA6_8RQVbqfbftE/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/DAJdEHUMntQWlA6_8RQVbqfbftE/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/DB_KUJWF2jg" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,8 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/F4vlOX7aOyg/Film-Holder-Adapters,7 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,7 Thanks for the suggestions, and I'm especially intrigued by the double-sided tape solution, but why not single-sided tape? It would hold the film down, too, and I probably wouldn't have to use tape the entire length of all the sides. But doing it in the dark would be difficult in either case. (No snarky remarks, please). What I have (and I laughed at your question, Bogdan) is an old ('20s or 30s) 8X10 Graphic back that was obviously from an aerial camera -- bolt holes in a circle in the body, large trigger mechanism for the shutter. I completed the camera by attaching dowels to the bolt holes and wrapping around them ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/737YrnKxp3azMCJtIwRztmnHXQ0/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/737YrnKxp3azMCJtIwRztmnHXQ0/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/737YrnKxp3azMCJtIwRztmnHXQ0/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/737YrnKxp3azMCJtIwRztmnHXQ0/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/F4vlOX7aOyg" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,7 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/k1r8tv9YZCg/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,1 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,1 Yeah I read about that. I wonder if they are his, and how they ended up at a garage sale in Fresno. I can definitely see their historical significance. The Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust is denying authenticity for now, but you never know. -Charlie --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Tim Daneliuk tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/bRLBD-20Hm4JoypCthG4KhrwfZ4/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/bRLBD-20Hm4JoypCthG4KhrwfZ4/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/bRLBD-20Hm4JoypCthG4KhrwfZ4/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/bRLBD-20Hm4JoypCthG4KhrwfZ4/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/k1r8tv9YZCg" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA,1 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/8dL_dfgiG2s/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx PGP Key: ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/-iUHQL-YLNRJ6_joOlonMjJ4WdQ/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/-iUHQL-YLNRJ6_joOlonMjJ4WdQ/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/-iUHQL-YLNRJ6_joOlonMjJ4WdQ/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/-iUHQL-YLNRJ6_joOlonMjJ4WdQ/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/8dL_dfgiG2s" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/45-Negatives-Could-be-Lost-Ansel-Adams-Photos-KTLA http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/BKUnmV_Acx8/Film-data-a-24000-holga,1 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-data-a-24000-holga,1 Funny (sort of), once processed, the film I thought was Forte had the TMY imprint on it. Called Kodak professional back and eventually they found that their code notch pdf hasn't been updated, but their film pdf has and of course had the correct code notch there. =\ Given that it could have been either film with this client it would have been a tossup as to which time/developer to use. Good thing the dev times were very close! ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/mTNJIOfjHcmN7bAoaDGUPm7CoxI/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/mTNJIOfjHcmN7bAoaDGUPm7CoxI/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/mTNJIOfjHcmN7bAoaDGUPm7CoxI/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/mTNJIOfjHcmN7bAoaDGUPm7CoxI/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/BKUnmV_Acx8" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-data-a-24000-holga,1 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~3/PaZtF3v6w8U/Film-Holder-Adapters,6 http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,6 Hi Marty, I just checked in the darkroom storage and I have several 8x10 glass plate holders that have thin metal inserts that take either 8x10 film or 5x7 and I have several inserts for 4x5. The thing is that a glass plate holder takes glass that is 2mm thick, give or take a hair, so you have space inside the holder, 2mm for an insert and film. ... <p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/_qu-ow-fcjkr2Bo1TSTF602KVWA/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/_qu-ow-fcjkr2Bo1TSTF602KVWA/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/> <a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/_qu-ow-fcjkr2Bo1TSTF602KVWA/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/_qu-ow-fcjkr2Bo1TSTF602KVWA/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/freelists-feeds/pure-silver/~4/PaZtF3v6w8U" height="1" width="1"/> http://www.freelists.org/post/pure-silver/Film-Holder-Adapters,6