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Comment on HBYP has a new Committee by Dan Browne

Dan Browne — Wed, 30 May 2012 23:48:25 +0000

Haha wise words Jon. We don’t have any set age limit… but as an indication most of our users are between 20-35ish…

Comment on HBYP has a new Committee by Jon

Jon — Wed, 30 May 2012 14:39:57 +0000

“It takes a long time to become young.”(Pablo Picasso)…so, what’s your line in the sands of time that divides those that can or can’t particpate. My father always said that an old fart was anyone 15 years older than you .

Comment on Fibre to the home is not enough by Juha

Juha — Wed, 30 May 2012 04:52:27 +0000

TCP seems to work just fine, as I discovered with some help from Measurementlab: http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tech-guy/2012/03/pumping_ultrafast_packets.html

Adding international bandwidth won’t help however if one end of the logical TCP connection isn’t playing ball – and this is very common.

Comment on Fibre to the home is not enough by Chris Conder

Chris Conder — Fri, 25 May 2012 07:59:27 +0000

Until connectivity is ubiquitous and free from the artificial scarcity model the telcos employ to protect their ass ets we’ll struggle.
We have to do the best we can, and laying fibre eliminates the copper thin pipe.
Local content within a country means fewer imports from others, but fat pipes between nations is also a goal.
Everyone has to keep the faith, and keep building for our future and the generations to come.
Like eating an elephant.
One bite at a time.

Comment on Fibre to the home is not enough by Bruce

Bruce — Fri, 25 May 2012 04:53:44 +0000

Don’t get too hung up on ping times for “typical” content, there are better protocols for latency sensitive services (video/voice). I’m glad to see TCP/IP has been raised as a consideration here but I’m with Mark on this debate…. case and point is the fact that I’ve enjoyed 80Mbps + to USA and Australia on many occasions from my office here in Hamilton. Yes the ping time goes up but as correctly mentioned in comments above, this is a law of physics issue – don’t get hung up on it.

I get these speeds because I ask for them from our upstream providers (and pay for them), the reality is that the bandwidth (speed) is available and it needs to be made more affordable so that the whole country can benefit.

In short, the limitation on what bandwidth I get Internationally versus Nationally has very little to do with ping times.

Comment on Fibre to the home is not enough by Ian

Ian — Fri, 25 May 2012 04:26:25 +0000

Mark: Since the technical limitations of TCP/IP (which I’ll readily admit I don’t fully understand) are “just an excuse”, does this mean that when Pacific Fibre is up and running, and ISPs have things sorted out (including giving you guys a big chunk of coin for international capacity) things will be better?

If 5mbps is a technical limitation and I’m already getting 5mbps sitting in Dunedin with by 180ms ping then surely things won’t improve. Any activities I do online (let’s take using Xero as a pertinent example) will still take close enough to exactly the same time as they do now won’t they?

Comment on Fibre to the home is not enough by Mark Rushworth

Mark Rushworth — Fri, 25 May 2012 03:50:38 +0000

TCP/IP is a convenient excuse used by ISP to explain why an internet connection is slow internationally, when in truth their network is usually congested.

If a combination of TCP/IP and latency were the only reason for these results the following would be true,
- My speed to Australia would be significantly higher than the US at 30MS to Sydney vs 150MS to San Jose (the Southern Cross main exit point). Tests reveal the speeds are the same because the limitation is the international B/W.
- My speed to Australia at 30MS and my Speed to Wellington 19ms should be similar. (similar latencies) Wellington was almost 10 times faster
- My internet would always run at a constant speed. Reality is it goes fast and slow during peak times.

None of the scenarios above have anything to do with the limitations of TCP/IP.

TCP/IP can be tweaked (LFN) to eliminate this being the issue, but if you tweak this the internet will work in a problematic fashion because others have it set at the standard.

To use the analogy of roads: Assume TCP/IP sets an artificial speed limit of 100Km/h as in the case of NZ roads. When no-one is on the Auckland Motorway, the law suggests that I should continue to operate at 100Km/h even though I could go faster. In essence I could push the 100km/h law (Just as I can tweak the window size for TCP/IP) but it may cause repercussions if others are on the motorway. If everyone else is operating their vehicle at 100Km/h it will not be as easy to operate my vehicle at a faster speed.

Now consider the Auckland Motorway at rush hour….…and imagine I have a Bugatti Veyron.

The guy at the Bugatti shop keeps telling me that my car will do 431km/h, and shows me the data from the racetrack. The geek at the garage says my speed is slow because I’m using it on the Akl motorway where I can only go 100Km/h and he confuses me with goobledegook about gear ratios, engine torque and fuel mixture. The reality is were still only going 5km/hr on the Newmarket flyover and no one is acknowledging the motorway is broken.

UFB is underway and the Govt is building 4 million new onramps onto the Motorway.

Comment on Looking for advice / help on implementing & using Microsoft Sharepoint 365, anyone using it? by John Stabler

John Stabler — Fri, 25 May 2012 02:22:27 +0000

Happy to help, We have migrated local clients to Office 365 Plans and Sharepoint Online. Using Exchange Online, Lync and Sharepoint with iPhone mobile, iPad and Office Pro Plus (oulook 2007 & 2010, Office docs) to cloud synchronisation.

Comment on Fibre to the home is not enough by cjmckenzie

cjmckenzie — Fri, 25 May 2012 01:51:02 +0000

My speedtest download 3.29, upload .42 mb/sec, ping 873 ms. That’s on Farmside satellite: I pay for 4mbps download. No choices in my rural area.. this is the reality for me and my neighbours.

I’ve heard you speak in Invercargill, Rod, and wish your project well.. regards CJMcKenzie

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1970289121.png

Comment on Fibre to the home is not enough by Alastair Thompson

Alastair Thompson — Fri, 25 May 2012 01:34:37 +0000

You have fibre to the home? Where… And those speeds look very good especially on the upload side – double the local CIV.

I am getting Telstra warp speed back on at home soon. Am Hoping I will still have 68mbs to oz.

Agree wholeheartedly on the need for nOuse as well. Are you coming to Nethui again?