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minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:01:00 +0000

Hello!

We've decided to stop using this site (though we'll leave it up for now), and instead are moving over to:

http://nojunkjustjesus.blogspot.com/

Please find us there!

In His love,

GayBibleChristians.org

GBC Podcast 010 | May God always bless you with failure

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:43:00 +0000

Failure hurts! Yet failure just might be the best thing that ever happens to you!

Today Jen talks about failure through the lens of her own spiritual failures, and how those ultimately not only shaped and grew her own faith, but also continue to glorify God.

Listen in for some thoughts about understanding all kinds of failure in your own life, and how to turn those instead into something that God considers beautiful.

Play or download podcast [16:43m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 009 | "..and there were also sodomites in the land.." A study of Deuteronomy 23:17; 1 Kings 14:24, 15:12, 22:46; 2 Kings 23:7 and beyond

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:00:00 +0000

Today we wrap up our study of the so-called "Clobber Passages", with a look at several verses that were all intentionally mistranslated – and which millions of people who count themselves as God-centered "Bible believers" still go by anyway.

Has God really said what a lot of religious people SAY He said, about Gay people? What does it say about the spiritual nature of people who change God's Word, or who knowingly continue to preach the man-made version of "God's" Word?

Our podcast today talks about:

What GOD said in Deuteronomy 23:17; 1 Kings 14:24, 15:12, and 22:46; and 2 Kings 23:7, versus what sinful human beings have SAID He said
The response we should have to scripture counterfeiting
Who is really a "sodomite"?
Why religious bigots continue to have so much power in this world – and when they won't have it any longer
What Jesus thinks of religious bigots
Who invented and who really participated in "fertility cult" religions – in ancient times and today
The fate of those who hate or hurt others in Jesus' Name
Why people who hate or hurt Gay people actually need more prayer than you do!
When we'll have God's peace
and more!

References used in this podcast:
Deuteronomy 23:17; 1 Kings 14:24, 15:12, and 22:46; and 2 Kings 23:7. Matthew 4:8-9; Matthew 7:13-14; Matthew 7:15-20; Matthew 7:21-23; Matthew 23; Matthew 24:10-11; James 4:4; 1 John 2:15-16; 1 John 3:10; 1 John 4:1; 1 John 5:19;2 Corinthians 11:13-15; 2 Peter 2:1-2; Galatians 5:7-8; Matthew 18:7; Matthew 23:33; Mark 9:42; Luke 17:1; Jeremiah 23:26; Mathew 13:12-15; John 9:39-41; John 16:33.

Play or download podcast [24:39m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 008 | "..shall not put on the weapon of a warrior.." A study of Deuteronomy 22:5 – and beyond

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:54:00 +0000

Those who have a different sexual orientation aren’t the only ones who suffer from mistranslations of the so-called “Clobber Passages”. Those with different gender orientations do, as well.

Our podcast today talks about:

The 4 general types of people who are affected by how Deuteronomy 22:5 is translated – and how most of them are actually straight.
Why even people who have what mainstream culture accepts as a “normal” gender orientation are still affected by mistranslations of Deuteronomy 22:5.
Why misunderstanding God’s rules against idolatry continue to mean misunderstanding what God put into the Mosaic Law.
Who Deuteronomy 22:5 applied to -- and why
What God actually said in Deuteronomy 22:5 – versus what human translators have said He said.
More ways human translators insert their own ideas, prejudices, and more into the Bible as if they came right from God.
Why taking God at His literal word, in His literal context, as given to the original hearers of Scripture, is the greatest way to prevent theological fraud – and God-rejection.
Why people of different gender orientations tend to fall into certain sins – and what the fix really is for that.
What God’s real word is for all differently gendered people, even today!
and more!

References used in this podcast:
Holy Bible: Leviticus 18:20-23; Deuteronomy 22:5; Jeremiah 8:8; Galatians 3:24-25 (note: other scripture references relevant to this study are found in our last podcast, on Leviticus).
For Bro. Carey: http://www.apostolicrestorationmission.4t.com/ or email minister@gaybiblechristians.org and we will forward your email directly to him.

Play or download podcast [25:12m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 007 | "..As one lies with a woman.." A study of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 – and beyond

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:19:00 +0000

A lot of people point to two verses in the book of Leviticus to "prove" that God condemns Gay people. But are they really about Gay people, or something else?

Our podcast today talks about:

Censorship of discussion about these verses -- and others -- by both the Roman and other churches
Why we fail ourselves -- and God -- when we fail to "test everything", as the Bible commands us
The purpose of Leviticus -- and of the entire Mosaic Law
Who the Mosaic Law applied to -- and who it did and still does not
How God's law can "change" -- and yet not change -- at the same time
Why Gay people should study and learn from -- rather than ignore -- the Mosaic Law
What these two passages in Leviticus literally say -- and how different that is from what English translations say
Why Gay Christians are ok -- but Gay Canaanites aren't -- in God's book!
Why trying to believe Leviticus condemns homosexuality is illogical and doesn't use proper Bible study techniques
and more!

References used in this podcast:
Holy Bible: Genesis 1:29, 9:3; Leviticus 11:1-46, 18, 20; Jeremiah 29:8-9; Matthew 7:15; Mark 7:19; Luke 11:52; John 1:51; Romans 3:20; 1 Corinthians 14:29; Galatians 2:15-16; 1 Thessalonians 5:21; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 2:18, 4:1; Revelation 16:13.
Here is one (but certainly not the only) place to begin a study of other discussion about Leviticus and homosexuality: Homosexuality & The Hebrew Bible: http://home.earthlink.net/~ecorebbe/id18.html

Play or download podcast [38:34m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 006 | "..So we may know them.." A study of the story of Sodom & Gomorrah (Genesis 19:5)

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:27:00 +0000

We continue our study of the so-called "Clobber Passages" -- the Scriptures that are said to condemn Gay people, but which fail to do so, upon scriptural examination.

Many people today use the story of Sodom and Gomorrah as "proof" that Gay people are evil and wicked -- as if "Sodom" and "Gay" mean the same thing. But is that really true?

Listen in to our podcast as we talk today about:

Who were the people of Sodom and Gomorrah?
What were the sins of the "Cities of the Plains"?
When did "Sodom" start to mean "homosexuality", in mainstream Christian teaching?
What really happened in Sodom that last night before God destroyed it?
Why is a sexual interpretation of what happened in Sodom that night a shallow understanding of the Scripture?
What did Abraham do that all people of faith should be doing, in dealing with people who choose evil?
Why does God have to destroy people sometimes, and why?
What is the real message of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, for ALL people?

References used in this podcast:
Holy Bible: Genesis 4:10, 10, 14, 18, 19; Isaiah 3:9; Ezekiel 16:49; 2 Peter 2:6; much of the law in Deuteronomy and Leviticus specifically prohibited the Hebrews from doing the things the Canaanites (and others) were doing, and so is a good study of ancient pagan religions and people, as well).
Idolatry in the Ancient Near East http://www.xenos.org/classes/papers/aneidola.htm
The Religion of the Canaanites http://www.theology.edu/canaan.htm
..and more (google Canaan religions, Molech, Sodom and Gomorrah, etc. for all sorts of additional study possibilities)

Play or download podcast [31:53m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 005 | “..appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith..” A study of Jude 7

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:16:00 +0000

In Jude 7 we continue our study of the so-called “Clobber Passages” – the Scriptures that are said to condemn Gay people, but which fail to do so, upon scriptural examination.

Our podcast today talks about:

What Jude’s real purpose was, in writing his letter
How prejudiced assumption inserts condemnation into Jude where it really isn’t, and therefore ignores it where it really is!
The sin that both the God-rejecting angels and the pagans committed, to their destruction.
How Jude proves that no one – not even those who consider themselves God’s people – are allowed to continue to sin after supposedly being saved.
and more!

References used in this podcast:
Holy Bible: Jude 1-15; 1 Corinthians 15:39-40; Leviticus 18:23-24; Genesis 6:2

Play or download podcast [17:57m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 004 | “So that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines..” A study of 1 Timothy 1:10 – and beyond

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:28:00 +0000

1 Timothy 1:10 is another Scripture some people use to “prove” that homosexual people are supposedly condemned by God. Yet 1 Timothy does say anything remotely like that!

Instead, 1 Timothy talks about false Christian leaders who claim to speak God’s Law, but who have actually missed God’s entire point.

It also offers Gay, Bible-based Christians a hint and hope for just a few of God’s reasons for putting us here as Gay, Bible-based Christians. And we find that those reasons have nothing to do with supporting false ministries or defending bad witness.

Our podcast today talks about:

Discerning when church leaders really are appointed and anointed by God
Some of the issues that churches even 2,000 years ago faced – and what God’s directions were for dealing with them
Why most straight and Gay people aren’t listening to mainstream Christianity anymore
Why Gay, Bible-believing Christians can be some of the best witnesses to God’s real Gospel message to those people who aren’t listening any longer
Why it doesn’t convert non-Christians when we “defend” or try to “sweeten up” the Bible
How and why holding to the whole of Scripture, exactly as God gave it to the world, is the best conversion tool
Why keeping the peace may be a church-destroyer
How assuming someone is righteous just because they are a shiny church leader is a slap in the face to God’s Gospel
Why being despised by the world makes Gay people some of God’s best workers in both the gay and straight communities – when we’ll accept His call
and more!

References used in this podcast:
Holy Bible: Matthew 23:27; 1 Corinthians 1:27-29; 2 Corinthians 5:20; 1 Timothy 1:3-11; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; Hebrews 8:8-9, 13

Play or download podcast [27:59m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 003 | "And such were some of you..." A study of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 -- and beyond

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:04:00 +0000

Many people, of course, quote 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 to "prove" that homosexual (and sometimes transgender) people won't go to heaven.

Would you be surprised (or know others who'd be surprised) to learn that the Scripture used to "prove" those things is actually counterfeit -- that God's Scripture, as He originally gave it to us, doesn't say those things at all?

Most people today seem content to live with counterfeit Scripture -- words that have come from the sinful hearts of other human beings, or the mouth of the devil himself. It's part of our sinful nature that goes all the way back to Adam and Eve, to accept someone else's word, instead of checking things out for ourselves.

The Bible says we can -- and should -- do better than that!

Our podcast today talks about:

Why we -- and all people -- should be rejecting counterfeit Scripture
What's wrong with traditional translations of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 -- and what God is really saying there through Paul
What God thinks of people who wrongly translate the Bible
What the ancient pagan religions and their "fertility cults" were about
When God means Scripture for one people or time, but not another
and more!

References used in this podcast:

Holy Bible: 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Matthew 11:8; Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32; Revelation 22:18; Jeremiah 8:8, 23:1-4.

Play or download podcast [28:20m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 002 | "For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie..." A study of Romans 1:26-27

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:02:00 +0000

I recently heard a straight pentecostal man laugh off Gay Christians, saying, "Don't their Bibles include the book of Romans?"

Of course our Bibles include the book of Romans -- but if we don't learn to understand it in the way that God intended for His people, our understanding of it will be just as spiritually superficial and destructive as this man's.

Personally, I want better than that. And I pray that you do too, because no one is saved and doing God's real work in this world if their heart-understanding of God's message to us isn't in the right place (how many times did Jesus tell us that?)

Go with us in this episode of Gay Bible Christians Audio, as we go line by line through Romans 1. We're going to talk about:

Why selecting out a few words or lines of any Scripture, and ignoring a Scripture author's entire train of thought, can leave us believing and teaching the devil's message, instead of God's
Who Paul is really talking about in Romans 1, and who should be worried by his message
Ungodly judging versus godly discernment
What God-rejection really looks like
and more!

References used in this podcast:

Holy Bible: Romans 1:1-2:2

Play or download podcast [37:39m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

GBC Podcast 001 | Hoping for Healing, because you are Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or Transgender?

minister@gaybiblechristians.org (GayBibleChristians.org) — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:42:00 +0000

Being Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or Transgender in this world can be very painful and lonely, if we aren't at peace with who we are.

But can we ever find the healing we need to have that peace?

Yes!

In this episode of encouragement from Gay Bible Christians Audio, we talk about our hope for healing, as Gay Christians.

Listen in and understand even more:

Why we hurt,
What keeps us from feeling at peace,
Where we are in our healing process,
What things will help us get to the peace with ourselves - and with God - that we need.

References used in this podcast:

Holy Bible: John 6:35-40

Cass, V.C. (1984). Homosexual identity formation: Testing a theoretical model. The Journal of Sex Research. 20, 143-167

Play or download podcast [30:40m]

Gay Christians: Living & Loving God's Word!

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