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<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/oExmQHJG7MXUWVeoiHV1yMo0z9c/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/oExmQHJG7MXUWVeoiHV1yMo0z9c/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/oExmQHJG7MXUWVeoiHV1yMo0z9c/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/oExmQHJG7MXUWVeoiHV1yMo0z9c/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>I really don&#8217;t see the Giants as being in that bad of a situation. Osi is under contract, he can whine all he wants, but he isn&#8217;t going anywhere unless the Giants let him. In sheer number they have a lot of FA&#8217;s, but so does everyone. Most of them are the back end of the roster, save Manningham, and while I would love to have Manningham back his loss wouldn&#8217;t be certain doom despite what some here think.</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/UpSwsDiFsCw" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/09/new-york-giants-justin-tuck-considering-offseason-shoulder-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-384602</feedburner:origLink></item> <item><title>Comment on New York Giants’ Justin Tuck Considering Offseason Shoulder Surgery by norm</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/giants101/comments/~3/uNyhyX6qNL0/</link> <dc:creator>norm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:54:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.giants101.com/?p=29776#comment-384600</guid> <description>Speaking of the Saints...
... their GM is facing an offseason that makes Reese's look like a walk in the park.
Their #1 priority, obviously, is to extend Drew Brees whose current deal is set to expire in March. Rumors are that he's going to command somewhere in the neighborhood of $18 MM/yr.
At the same time, they have to make a decision on what to do with one of the men who has had a lot to do with Brees' success, Carl Nicks. Nicks is coming off his rookie deal (I believe he was originally a fifth rounder, so he probably was not earning that much) and is also in line for a huge pay increase.
Here's were things start to get thorny for New Orleans. They recently signed their other stud guard, Jahri Evans, to an $8 MM/yr deal, making him the highest paid guard in the NFL. I'm sure Nicks is looking for a similar number.
I've no doubt that the GM, Mickey Loomis, is having his share of sleepless nights. One the one hand, he knows that the whole Saints offense is predicated on the combo of Evans and Nicks maintaining a clean pocket for the diminutive Brees. This they have done exceptionally well, arguably better than any guard tandem in the game. On the other hand, he's looking at potentially tying $16 MM/yr up in two interior linemen PLUS the $18 MM that Brees is expected to get. That's roughly 25% of their total cap monies tied up in just three players.
It is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. There have already been rumblings that Nicks is unhappy with the numbers he's been offered and that he is likely to walk. Unless the Saints have someone in the wings who can replicate that which Nicks gave them over the last four years, that offense could take a big step backwards.  On top of that, Colston is also a free agent. I doubt they break the bank to keep him, either.
Compared to that, the Giants worries over how to handle Mario and Osi seem like small potatoes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/DUwsLzTzMRXo3oxKLozRWvjMRfw/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/DUwsLzTzMRXo3oxKLozRWvjMRfw/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/DUwsLzTzMRXo3oxKLozRWvjMRfw/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/DUwsLzTzMRXo3oxKLozRWvjMRfw/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>Speaking of the Saints&#8230;</p><p>&#8230; their GM is facing an offseason that makes Reese&#8217;s look like a walk in the park.</p><p>Their #1 priority, obviously, is to extend Drew Brees whose current deal is set to expire in March. Rumors are that he&#8217;s going to command somewhere in the neighborhood of $18 MM/yr.</p><p>At the same time, they have to make a decision on what to do with one of the men who has had a lot to do with Brees&#8217; success, Carl Nicks. Nicks is coming off his rookie deal (I believe he was originally a fifth rounder, so he probably was not earning that much) and is also in line for a huge pay increase.</p><p>Here&#8217;s were things start to get thorny for New Orleans. They recently signed their other stud guard, Jahri Evans, to an $8 MM/yr deal, making him the highest paid guard in the NFL. I&#8217;m sure Nicks is looking for a similar number.</p><p>I&#8217;ve no doubt that the GM, Mickey Loomis, is having his share of sleepless nights. One the one hand, he knows that the whole Saints offense is predicated on the combo of Evans and Nicks maintaining a clean pocket for the diminutive Brees. This they have done exceptionally well, arguably better than any guard tandem in the game. On the other hand, he&#8217;s looking at potentially tying $16 MM/yr up in two interior linemen PLUS the $18 MM that Brees is expected to get. That&#8217;s roughly 25% of their total cap monies tied up in just three players.</p><p>It is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. There have already been rumblings that Nicks is unhappy with the numbers he&#8217;s been offered and that he is likely to walk. Unless the Saints have someone in the wings who can replicate that which Nicks gave them over the last four years, that offense could take a big step backwards.  On top of that, Colston is also a free agent. I doubt they break the bank to keep him, either.</p><p>Compared to that, the Giants worries over how to handle Mario and Osi seem like small potatoes.</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/uNyhyX6qNL0" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/09/new-york-giants-justin-tuck-considering-offseason-shoulder-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-384600</feedburner:origLink></item> <item><title>Comment on New York Giants’ Justin Tuck Considering Offseason Shoulder Surgery by Nosh</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/giants101/comments/~3/S2LyNvNpUow/</link> <dc:creator>Nosh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:54:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.giants101.com/?p=29776#comment-384598</guid> <description>Yes we agree completely on that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/qIhK8v403jGeg2gmyBOERQ-avZA/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/qIhK8v403jGeg2gmyBOERQ-avZA/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/qIhK8v403jGeg2gmyBOERQ-avZA/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/qIhK8v403jGeg2gmyBOERQ-avZA/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>Yes we agree completely on that.</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/S2LyNvNpUow" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/09/new-york-giants-justin-tuck-considering-offseason-shoulder-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-384598</feedburner:origLink></item> <item><title>Comment on New York Giants’ Justin Tuck Considering Offseason Shoulder Surgery by Nosh</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/giants101/comments/~3/Y_iXGQ_TFUU/</link> <dc:creator>Nosh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:52:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.giants101.com/?p=29776#comment-384596</guid> <description>Of course.
Plus it's an easy response that shuts up everyone quick. No need to get in some long drawn out argument with some lunatic Cowboy or Philly fan.
Just smile and say "It's probably important for you to have a QB with a bunch of records and Touchdowns, ect... Mine wins Super Bowls."
The End.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/kJvCGu6SnW0YHlQBfVvb86LTves/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/kJvCGu6SnW0YHlQBfVvb86LTves/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/kJvCGu6SnW0YHlQBfVvb86LTves/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/kJvCGu6SnW0YHlQBfVvb86LTves/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>Of course.</p><p>Plus it&#8217;s an easy response that shuts up everyone quick. No need to get in some long drawn out argument with some lunatic Cowboy or Philly fan.</p><p>Just smile and say &#8220;It&#8217;s probably important for you to have a QB with a bunch of records and Touchdowns, ect&#8230; Mine wins Super Bowls.&#8221;</p><p>The End.</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/Y_iXGQ_TFUU" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/09/new-york-giants-justin-tuck-considering-offseason-shoulder-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-384596</feedburner:origLink></item> <item><title>Comment on New York Giants’ Justin Tuck Considering Offseason Shoulder Surgery by Therealdeal</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/giants101/comments/~3/el5WlcS81eI/</link> <dc:creator>Therealdeal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:46:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.giants101.com/?p=29776#comment-384594</guid> <description>Perfect</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/A81x81naeY0GTTBvdLEY-3tf3RU/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/A81x81naeY0GTTBvdLEY-3tf3RU/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/A81x81naeY0GTTBvdLEY-3tf3RU/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/A81x81naeY0GTTBvdLEY-3tf3RU/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>Perfect</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/el5WlcS81eI" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/09/new-york-giants-justin-tuck-considering-offseason-shoulder-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-384594</feedburner:origLink></item> <item><title>Comment on New York Giants’ Justin Tuck Considering Offseason Shoulder Surgery by norm</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/giants101/comments/~3/PmOx9TvkR9o/</link> <dc:creator>norm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:45:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.giants101.com/?p=29776#comment-384592</guid> <description>Agree... other than the Peyton, Rodgers, Brees and Brady being able to win a Super Bowl in NY part.
I think it's sometimes hard for fans to appreciate what a pressure cooker playing in this city can be, the effect it can have, and how it can cause certain athletes to come completely unglued (see Whitson, Ed) Of the QBs you mentioned, the only one who I don't think would have a problem here is Brady.
Peyton - great as he is during the regular season in Indy - seems to lose a little luster under the bright lights of the playoffs. I also seem to recall reading  comment by Archie somewhere which said that he did not think Peyton would like playing in the NY media market.
As for Rodgers, until he improves on his career 3-18 record while trailing in the 4th quarter, I'm going to continue to harbor doubts that he's got more than a little bit of frontrunner in him. I want to see a lot more consistency from him when the chips are down before I am convinced that he has the mental makeup to handle NYC.
Finally, it's been pretty well established at this point that Brees is a different QB outside of that damn dome. He's an All World, GOAT level QB in New Orleans... outside he's merely very, very good. More to the point... I'm not sure how Brees could have fared in an organization that didn't allocate a disproportionate share of the teams resources to surrounding him with elite offensive linemen and skill position players, as the Saints have done - often at the expense of their defense.
Of course, this is all just fodder for a bar room argument and we'll never know  for certain how things would have played out otherwise. And I, as are you, could not be happier that things are not any different and that we have the QB we have; one who has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is the perfect QB for this media market, this team.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/hzY11jsKWzojNsHP5vu86PY-58U/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/hzY11jsKWzojNsHP5vu86PY-58U/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/hzY11jsKWzojNsHP5vu86PY-58U/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/hzY11jsKWzojNsHP5vu86PY-58U/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>Agree&#8230; other than the Peyton, Rodgers, Brees and Brady being able to win a Super Bowl in NY part.</p><p>I think it&#8217;s sometimes hard for fans to appreciate what a pressure cooker playing in this city can be, the effect it can have, and how it can cause certain athletes to come completely unglued (see Whitson, Ed) Of the QBs you mentioned, the only one who I don&#8217;t think would have a problem here is Brady.</p><p>Peyton &#8211; great as he is during the regular season in Indy &#8211; seems to lose a little luster under the bright lights of the playoffs. I also seem to recall reading  comment by Archie somewhere which said that he did not think Peyton would like playing in the NY media market.</p><p>As for Rodgers, until he improves on his career 3-18 record while trailing in the 4th quarter, I&#8217;m going to continue to harbor doubts that he&#8217;s got more than a little bit of frontrunner in him. I want to see a lot more consistency from him when the chips are down before I am convinced that he has the mental makeup to handle NYC.</p><p>Finally, it&#8217;s been pretty well established at this point that Brees is a different QB outside of that damn dome. He&#8217;s an All World, GOAT level QB in New Orleans&#8230; outside he&#8217;s merely very, very good. More to the point&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure how Brees could have fared in an organization that didn&#8217;t allocate a disproportionate share of the teams resources to surrounding him with elite offensive linemen and skill position players, as the Saints have done &#8211; often at the expense of their defense.</p><p>Of course, this is all just fodder for a bar room argument and we&#8217;ll never know  for certain how things would have played out otherwise. And I, as are you, could not be happier that things are not any different and that we have the QB we have; one who has already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is the perfect QB for this media market, this team.</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/PmOx9TvkR9o" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/09/new-york-giants-justin-tuck-considering-offseason-shoulder-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-384592</feedburner:origLink></item> <item><title>Comment on New York Giantsâ€™ Mario Manningham not Traveling with Team, Out Sunday by Washington Redskins May Target WR Mario Manningham | mariocars.com</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/giants101/comments/~3/dbIKxUcGpyM/</link> <dc:creator>Washington Redskins May Target WR Mario Manningham | mariocars.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:45:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-384590</guid> <description>[...] New York Giantsâ€™ Mario Manningham not Traveling with Team, Out Sunday [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[
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<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/KorX-jcQTGJMIbsqcmGyDnQfeco/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/KorX-jcQTGJMIbsqcmGyDnQfeco/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>[...] hired representative Drew Rosenhaus behind in mid-October in credentials for this arriving offseason, and after a extensive opening in [...]</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/VZWXTZ60tm4" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2011/10/12/new-york-giants-wr-mario-manningham-hires-agent-drew-rosenhaus/comment-page-1/#comment-384588</feedburner:origLink></item> <item><title>Comment on New York Giants’ Justin Tuck Considering Offseason Shoulder Surgery by BBSCalledItAfterWeek8</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/giants101/comments/~3/3jZ-HuItuPo/</link> <dc:creator>BBSCalledItAfterWeek8</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:33:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.giants101.com/?p=29776#comment-384586</guid> <description>Nosh i like that im going have to steal it ok???</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Qvcj7ejQz5UtJRQU7pzP6bLD540/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Qvcj7ejQz5UtJRQU7pzP6bLD540/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Qvcj7ejQz5UtJRQU7pzP6bLD540/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/Qvcj7ejQz5UtJRQU7pzP6bLD540/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>Nosh i like that im going have to steal it ok???</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/3jZ-HuItuPo" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/09/new-york-giants-justin-tuck-considering-offseason-shoulder-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-384586</feedburner:origLink></item> <item><title>Comment on New York Giants’ Justin Tuck Considering Offseason Shoulder Surgery by Nosh</title><link>http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/giants101/comments/~3/da71zQz-hnI/</link> <dc:creator>Nosh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:25:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.giants101.com/?p=29776#comment-384584</guid> <description>The gift of Al Davis.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[
<p><a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/6553ASipzsKcMGuG5K_defJzt7w/0/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/6553ASipzsKcMGuG5K_defJzt7w/0/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a><br/>
<a href="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/6553ASipzsKcMGuG5K_defJzt7w/1/da"><img src="http://feedads.g.doubleclick.net/~a/6553ASipzsKcMGuG5K_defJzt7w/1/di" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><p>The gift of Al Davis.</p> <img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/giants101/comments/~4/da71zQz-hnI" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded> <feedburner:origLink>http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/09/new-york-giants-justin-tuck-considering-offseason-shoulder-surgery/comment-page-1/#comment-384584</feedburner:origLink></item> </channel> </rss><!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

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