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		<title>expecting static .. why dynamic.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for all enlightenments &#8230; It is faster to get the answer here that googling &#8230; 
I think everyone is correct &#8230;.
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R1: s0/0 ip add frame interface-d 102 no frame inv
r1(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:18:03.639: Serial0/0(i): dlci 102(0&#215;1861), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:18:03.643: Serial0/0: FR ARP input [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all enlightenments &#8230; It is faster to get the answer here that googling &#8230; <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I think everyone is correct &#8230;.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
R1: s0/0 ip add frame interface-d 102 no frame inv<br />
r1(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:18:03.639: Serial0/0(i): dlci 102(0&#215;1861), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:18:03.643: Serial0/0: FR ARP input *Mar  1 00:18:03.647: Serial0/0: frame relay INARP received *Mar  1 00:18:03.651: Serial0/0: inarp received on 102 *Mar  1 00:18:03.651: datagramstart = 0&#215;7DFFE6E, datagramsize = 34 *Mar  1 00:18:03.655: FR encap = 0&#215;18610300 *Mar  1 00:18:03.655: 80 00 00 00 08 06 00 0F 08 00 02 04 00 08 00 00 *Mar  1 00:18:03.667: 0A 00 00 02 30 91 00 00 00 00 01 02 00 40 *Mar  1 00:18:03.675: *Mar  1 00:18:03.679: FR: Sending INARP Reply on interface Serial0/0 dlci 102 for link 7(IP)<br />
 R2: s0/0 ip add frame interface-d 201 frame inv<br />
r2(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:17:47.291: Serial0/0: preparing IP inarp on 201 *Mar  1 00:17:47.295: Serial0/0(o): dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:17:47.295: FR: Sending INARP Request on interface Serial0/0 dlci 201 for link 7(IP) *Mar  1 00:17:47.315: broadcast dequeue *Mar  1 00:17:47.315: Serial0/0(o):Pkt sent on dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;300  0&#215;8000 0&#215;0    0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:17:47.555: Serial0/0(i): dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:17:47.559: Serial0/0: FR ARP input *Mar  1 00:17:47.559: Serial0/0: frame relay INARP received *Mar  1 00:17:47.559: Serial0/0: inarp received on 201 *Mar  1 00:17:47.559: datagramstart = 0&#215;7E0036E, datagramsize = 34 *Mar  1 00:17:47.563: FR encap = 0&#215;30910300 *Mar  1 00:17:47.563: 80 00 00 00 08 06 00 0F 08 00 02 04 00 09 00 00 *Mar  1 00:17:47.563: 0A 00 00 01 30 91 0A 00 00 02 02 02 00 40 *Mar  1 00:17:47.563:<br />
 Connection established &#8230; !!!<br />
R1: s0/0 ip add frame interface-d 102 no frame inv shut r1(config-if)#do sh frame pvc<br />
PVC Statistics for interface Serial0/0 (Frame Relay DTE)<br />
              Active     Inactive      Deleted       Static   Local          0            0            1            0   Switched       0            0            0            0   Unused         0            0            0            0<br />
DLCI = 102, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = DELETED, INTERFACE = Serial0/0<br />
  input pkts 52            output pkts 50           in bytes 4468   out bytes 4400           dropped pkts 0           in pkts dropped 0<br />
  out pkts dropped 0                out bytes dropped 0   in FECN pkts 0           in BECN pkts 0           out FECN pkts 0   out BECN pkts 0          in DE pkts 0             out DE pkts 0   out bcast pkts 0         out bcast bytes 0   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec   pvc create time 00:19:54, last time pvc status changed 00:01:37<br />
no shut<br />
r1(config-if)#no shut r1(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:27:48.027: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:27:49.027: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:28:11.583: Serial0/0(i): dlci 102(0&#215;1861), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:28:11.587: Serial0/0: FR ARP input *Mar  1 00:28:11.591: Serial0/0: frame relay INARP received *Mar  1 00:28:11.595: Serial0/0: inarp received on 102 *Mar  1 00:28:11.595: datagramstart = 0&#215;7E000EE, datagramsize = 34 *Mar  1 00:28:11.599: FR encap = 0&#215;18610300 *Mar  1 00:28:11.599: 80 00 00 00 08 06 00 0F 08 00 02 04 00 08 00 00 *Mar  1 00:28:11.611: 0A 00 00 02 30 91 00 00 00 00 01 02 00 40 *Mar  1 00:28:11.619: *Mar  1 00:28:11.623: FR: Sending INARP Reply on interface Serial0/0 dlci 102 for link 7(IP)</p>
<p>R2: s0/0 ip add frame inv<br />
shut r2(config-if)#do sh frame pvc<br />
r2(config-if)# no shut<br />
r2(config-if)#no shut r2(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:27:35.131: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:27:36.131: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:27:55.203: Serial0/0: preparing IP inarp on 201 *Mar  1 00:27:55.207: Serial0/0(o): dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:27:55.211: FR: Sending INARP Request on interface Serial0/0 dlci 201 for link 7(IP) *Mar  1 00:27:55.275: broadcast dequeue *Mar  1 00:27:55.275: Serial0/0(o):Pkt sent on dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;300  0&#215;8000 0&#215;0    0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:27:55.455: Serial0/0(i): dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:27:55.459: Serial0/0: FR ARP input *Mar  1 00:27:55.463: Serial0/0: frame relay INARP received *Mar  1 00:27:55.467: Serial0/0: inarp received on 201 *Mar  1 00:27:55.467: datagramstart = 0&#215;7E0022E, datagramsize = 34 *Mar  1 00:27:55.471: FR encap = 0&#215;30910300 *Mar  1 00:27:55.471: 80 00 00 00 08 06 00 0F 08 00 02 04 00 09 00 00 *Mar  1 00:27:55.471: 0A 00 00 01 30 91 0A 00 00 02 02 02 00 40 *Mar  1 00:27:55.471:<br />
 same thing happen .. connection established .. !!!<br />
Now &#8230;.<br />
 R1: s0/0 ip add frame interface-d 102 no frame inv<br />
R2: s0/0 ip add no frame inv<br />
r1(config-if)#no shut r1(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:33:36.547: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:33:37.547: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up<br />
r2(config-if)#no shut r2(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:33:23.091: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:33:24.091: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up<br />
 Now &#8230;.<br />
 R1: s0/0 ip add frame interface-d 102 no frame inv<br />
R2: s0/0 ip add frame inv<br />
r1(config-if)#no shut r1(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:39:21.419: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:39:22.419: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:39:44.215: Serial0/0(i): dlci 102(0&#215;1861), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:39:44.219: Serial0/0: FR ARP input *Mar  1 00:39:44.219: Serial0/0: frame relay INARP received *Mar  1 00:39:44.223: Serial0/0: inarp received on 102 *Mar  1 00:39:44.223: datagramstart = 0&#215;7A019CE, datagramsize = 34 *Mar  1 00:39:44.227: FR encap = 0&#215;18610300 *Mar  1 00:39:44.227: 80 00 00 00 08 06 00 0F 08 00 02 04 00 08 00 00 *Mar  1 00:39:44.239: 0A 00 00 02 30 91 00 00 00 00 01 02 00 40 *Mar  1 00:39:44.251: *Mar  1 00:39:44.251: FR: Sending INARP Reply on interface Serial0/0 dlci 102 for link 7(IP)<br />
 r2(config-if)#no shut r2(config-if)# *Mar  1 00:39:07.831: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:39:08.831: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0/0, changed state to up *Mar  1 00:39:27.867: Serial0/0: preparing IP inarp on 201 *Mar  1 00:39:27.871: Serial0/0(o): dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:39:27.875: FR: Sending INARP Request on interface Serial0/0 dlci 201 for link 7(IP) *Mar  1 00:39:27.923: broadcast dequeue *Mar  1 00:39:27.923: Serial0/0(o):Pkt sent on dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;300  0&#215;8000 0&#215;0    0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:39:28.103: Serial0/0(i): dlci 201(0&#215;3091), pkt encaps 0&#215;0300 0&#215;8000 0&#215;0000 0&#215;806 (ARP), datagramsize 34 *Mar  1 00:39:28.107: Serial0/0: FR ARP input *Mar  1 00:39:28.107: Serial0/0: frame relay INARP received *Mar  1 00:39:28.111: Serial0/0: inarp received on 201 *Mar  1 00:39:28.111: datagramstart = 0&#215;7A00D4E, datagramsize = 34 *Mar  1 00:39:28.115: FR encap = 0&#215;30910300 *Mar  1 00:39:28.115: 80 00 00 00 08 06 00 0F 08 00 02 04 00 09 00 00 *Mar  1 00:39:28.127: 0A 00 00 01 30 91 0A 00 00 02 02 02 00 40 *Mar  1 00:39:28.127:</p>
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<p>2009/7/14 Scott Morris<br />
&gt;  Why were you expecting static?  You need to use the &#8220;frame-relay map&#8221; &gt; command if you want a static mapping.  The &#8220;frame-relay interface-dlci&#8221; &gt; command simply says &#8220;this dlci goes here&#8221; and has nothing to do with static &gt; mapping. &gt; &gt; HTH, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  *Scott Morris*, CCIE*x4* (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, &gt; &gt; JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. &gt; &gt; JNCI-M, JNCI-ER &gt; &gt; evil@ine.com &gt; &gt; &gt;  Internetwork Expert, Inc. &gt; &gt; http://www.InternetworkExpert.com &gt; &gt; Toll Free: 877-224-8987 &gt; &gt; Outside US: 775-826-4344 &gt; &gt; &gt;  Knowledge is power. &gt; &gt; Power corrupts. &gt; &gt; Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil&#8230;&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Taufik Kurniawan wrote: &gt; &gt; Hi All, &gt; &gt; FR newbie questions : &gt; &gt; Playing around with FR. &gt; &gt; R1 : &gt; &gt; int s0/0.1020 mul &gt; ip add 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.252 &gt; frame inter-dlci 102 &gt; &gt; &gt; R2 : &gt; &gt; int s0/0 &gt; ip add 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.252 &gt; encap frame &gt; frame inter-dlci 201 &gt; no frame inv &gt; &gt; &gt; r1#sh frame map &gt; Serial0/0.1020 (up): ip 10.0.0.2 dlci 102(0&#215;66,0&#215;1860), dynamic, &gt;               broadcast, &gt;               CISCO, status defined, active &gt; &gt; &gt; r2#sh frame map &gt; Serial0/0 (up): ip 10.0.0.1 dlci 201(0xC9,0&#215;3090), dynamic, &gt;               broadcast, &gt;               CISCO, status defined, active &gt; &gt; why did i get dynamic in R2 ? &gt; &gt; thanks for enlightment &#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; Subscription information may be found at: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html<br />
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		<title>OSPF Virtual Links and PPPoFR</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Victor,   Did you check to see what the OSPF network type is on the hub&#8217;s interface when using standard FR and then when using PPPoFR?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor,   Did you check to see what the OSPF network type is on the hub&#8217;s interface when using standard FR and then when using PPPoFR?<br />
Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice) bdennis@internetworkexpert.com<br />
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&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211; From: &#8220;Victor&#8221;  Sent: Tue, July 14, 2009 19:39 Subject:OSPF Virtual Links and PPPoFR<br />
 Hello Guys, I&#8217;ve been trying to get running OSPF Virtual Links over a 3 routers topology 1 hub + 2 spokes using PPPoFR for connecting between them, where one of the spokes is the backbone and I have some Loopbacks created on each router on different areas, so finally I only can get running the Virtual Link going from spoke to spoke but NEVER the VL between the hub to the spoke (area 0). I changed the PPPoFR config and used only FR and everything works OK, when I try to use PPPoFR (no changes in OSPF config) I get the same problem.<br />
I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m missing something&#8230;.. do you have any suggestion??<br />
Regards&#8230;. Victor.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason behind this is order of OSPF preference of routes 1) Intra-area routes 2) Inter-area routes 3) E1 routes 4) E2 routes
 The Type-5 LSA is originated by the ASBR R3 (Router-ID:172.30.0.1). And the forward address would be 0.0.0.0, indicating to forward traffic for that prefix to the ASBR itself. If you do a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason behind this is order of OSPF preference of routes 1) Intra-area routes 2) Inter-area routes 3) E1 routes 4) E2 routes<br />
 The Type-5 LSA is originated by the ASBR R3 (Router-ID:172.30.0.1). And the forward address would be 0.0.0.0, indicating to forward traffic for that prefix to the ASBR itself. If you do a show ip ospf border-router on R2, you&#8217;ll see it has an intra area route to R3 (Router-ID:172.30.0.1) over E0/1. When you shutdown the E0/1 interface R2 loses it&#8217;s intra area route to the ASBR, it will in turn have an inter area route to the ASBR via R1.<br />
So as long as there is the intra-area route to the ASBR on R2, i.e since ospf process on R2 finds both an intra area route and inter area route to the ASBR, it will ignore the cost and simply choose the intra area route to the ASBR.<br />
Lejoe<br />
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:47 AM,  wrote:<br />
&gt; Dear GS, &gt; &gt; I&#8217;m trying to figure out why manipulating interface OSPF cost does&#8217;t &gt; change the path to get to a network on a scenario like this: &gt; &gt; 172.30.0.0/20 &gt; R3  &gt; /B B B B B B   &gt; R1 &#8212; R2 &gt; &gt; R1-R3 - Area 10 &gt; R2-R3 - Area 10 &gt; R1-R2 - Area 0 &gt; &gt; Increasing OSPF cost on path R2-&gt;R3 should&#8217;t R2 prefer R1 to get to &gt; 172.30.0.0/20 ? &gt; &gt; R2#show ip route 172.30.0.0 &gt; Routing entry for 172.30.0.0/20, 1 known subnets &gt; &gt; O E1B B B  172.30.0.0 [110/30] via 172.29.4.33, 00:00:01, Ethernet0/1 &gt; &gt; After changing Cost to 1000, R2 still prefers same path, even with a &gt; higher cost: &gt; &gt; R2#conf t &gt; Enter configuration commands, one per line.B  End with CNTL/Z. &gt; R2(config)#int et 0/1 &gt; R2(config-if)#ip ospf cost 1000 &gt; R2(config-if)#^Z &gt; R2#show ip route 172.30.0.0 &gt; Routing entry for 172.30.0.0/20, 1 known subnets &gt; &gt; O E1B B B  172.30.0.0 [110/1020] via 172.29.4.33 , 00:00:10, &gt; Ethernet0/1B B   R2# &gt; &gt; B &gt; &gt; I noticed route through R1 is not on LSDB (maybe it is the same ?): &gt; &gt; R2#show ip ospf database | b Type-5 &gt; Type-5 AS External Link States &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum Tag &gt; 172.30.0.0B B B B B  172.30.0.1B B B B B  342B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000002 &gt; 0&#215;00DFB8 0 &gt; R2# &gt; &gt; B &gt; &gt; But if R2 loose path to R3, it works: &gt; &gt; R2#conf t &gt; R2(config)#int et 0/1 &gt; R2(config-if)#shutdown &gt; R2(config-if)#^Z &gt; R2#show ip route 172.30.0.0 &gt; Routing entry for 172.30.0.0/20, 1 known subnets &gt; &gt; O E1B B B  172.30.0.0 [110/40] via 192.168.1.62, 00:00:04, Ethernet0/0B &gt;  &gt; R2#show ip ospf database | b Type-5 &gt; Type-5 AS External Link States &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum Tag &gt; 172.30.0.0B B B B B  172.30.0.1B B B B B  599B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000002 &gt; 0&#215;00DFB8 0 &gt; R2# &gt; &gt; Since this is my first post, hope it&#8217;s not too long and not a dumb issue &gt; <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &gt; &gt; Kindest Regards, &gt; &gt; &#8212;- checks &#8212;- &gt; &gt; R2#show ip ospf database &gt; &gt; OSPF Router with ID (192.168.1.61) (Process ID 1) &gt; &gt; Router Link States (Area 0) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum Link count &gt; 192.168.1.61B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  1323B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000007 &gt; 0&#215;007A09 1 &gt; 192.168.1.62B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1870B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000003 &gt; 0&#215;008004 1 &gt; &gt; Net Link States (Area 0) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV Rout erB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 192.168.1.62B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1871B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000001 &gt; 0&#215;002A7D &gt; &gt; Summary Net Link States (Area 0) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 172.29.4.32B B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  153B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000006 &gt; 0&#215;00477E &gt; 172.29.4.32B B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1304B B B B B B B  0&#215;8000000B &gt; 0&#215;00712F &gt; 172.29.4.48B B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  153B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000004 &gt; 0&#215;00B402 &gt; 172.29.4.48B B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1823B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000003 &gt; 0&#215;00D6C2 &gt; &gt; Summary ASB Link States (Area 0) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 172.30.0.1B B B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  153B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000004 &gt; 0&#215;00EEEA &gt; 172.30.0.1B B B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1608B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000001 &gt; 0&#215;001F9E &gt; &gt; Router Link States (Area 10) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum Link count &gt; 172.30.0.1B B B B B  172.30.0.1B B B B B  1317B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000008 &gt; 0&#215;00A8F8 2 &gt; 192.168.1.61B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  159B B B B B B B B  0&#215;8000000B &gt; 0&#215;00DC2E 1 &gt; 192.168.1.62B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1833B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000002 &gt; 0&#215;00B31B 1 &gt; &gt; Net Link States (Area 10) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 172.29.4.33B B B B  172.30.0.1B B B B B  1313B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000003 &gt; 0&#215;00E830 &gt; 172.29.4.54B B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1833B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000001 &gt; 0&#215;0035F2 &gt; &gt; Summary Net Link States (Area 10) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 192.168.1.48B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  1317B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000005 &gt; 0&#215;006A91 &gt; 192.168.1.48B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1862B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000003 &gt; 0&#215;006894 &gt; Type-5 AS External Link States &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum Tag &gt; 172.30.0.0B B B B B  172.30.0.1B B B B B  1590B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000001 &gt; 0&#215;00E1B7 0 &gt; R2# &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; &gt; &gt; R1#show ip ospf database &gt; &gt; OSPF Router with ID (192.168.1.62) (Process ID 1) &gt; &gt; Router Link States (Area 0) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum Link count &gt; 192.168.1.61B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  1393B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000007 &gt; 0&#215;007A09 1 &gt; 192.168.1.62B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  16B B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000004 &gt; 0&#215;007E05 1 &gt; &gt; Net Link States (Area 0) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 192.168.1.62B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  16B B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000002 &gt; 0&#215;00287E &gt; &gt; Summary Net Link States (Area 0) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B  B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 172.29.4.32B B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  224B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000006 &gt; 0&#215;00477E &gt; 172.29.4.32B B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1372B B B B B B B  0&#215;8000000B &gt; 0&#215;00712F &gt; 172.29.4.48B B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  224B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000004 &gt; 0&#215;00B402 &gt; 172.29.4.48B B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  16B B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000004 &gt; 0&#215;00D4C3 &gt; &gt; Summary ASB Link States (Area 0) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 172.30.0.1B B B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  224B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000004 &gt; 0&#215;00EEEA &gt; 172.30.0.1B B B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  1677B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000001 &gt; 0&#215;001F9E &gt; &gt; Router Link States (Area 10) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum Link count &gt; 172.30.0.1B B B B B  172.30.0.1B B B B B  1388B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000008 &gt; 0&#215;00A8F8 2 &gt; 192.168.1.61B  B B  192.168.1.61B B B  231B B B B B B B B  0&#215;8000000B &gt; 0&#215;00DC2E 1 &gt; 192.168.1.62B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  17B B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000003 &gt; 0&#215;00B11C 1 &gt; &gt; Net Link States (Area 10) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 172.29.4.33B B B B  172.30.0.1B B B B B  1383B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000003 &gt; 0&#215;00E830 &gt; 172.29.4.54B B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  17B B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000002 &gt; 0&#215;0033F3 &gt; &gt; Summary Net Link States (Area 10) &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum &gt; 192.168.1.48B B B  192.168.1.61B B B  1389B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000005 &gt; 0&#215;006A91 &gt; 192.168.1.48B B B  192.168.1.62B B B  17B B B B B B B B B  0&#215;80000004 &gt; 0&#215;006695 &gt; &gt; Type-5 AS External Link States &gt; &gt; Link IDB B B B B B B B  ADV RouterB B B B B  AgeB B B B B B B B &gt; Seq#B B B B B B  Checksum Tag &gt; 172.30.0.0B B B B B  172.30.0.1B B B B B  1660B B B B B B  B  0&#215;80000001 &gt; 0&#215;00E1B7 0 &gt; R1# &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8212; confs &#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; R1# &gt; router ospf 1 &gt; log-adjacency-changes &gt; network 172.29.4.54 0.0.0.0 area 10 &gt; network 192.168.1.62 0.0.0.0 area 0 &gt; &gt; interface Ethernet0/1 &gt; ip address 172.29.4.54 255.255.255.240 &gt; full-duplex &gt; end &gt; &gt; R2# &gt; router ospf 1 &gt; log-adjacency-changes &gt; network 172.29.4.38 0.0.0.0 area 10 &gt; network 192.168.1.61 0.0.0.0 area 0 &gt; &gt; interface Ethernet0/1 &gt; ip address 172.29.4.38 255.255.255.240 &gt; ip ospf cost 1000 &gt; full-duplex &gt; end &gt; &gt; R3# &gt; interface FastEthernet1/1 &gt; no switchport &gt; ip address 172.29.4.49 255.255.255.240 &gt; end &gt; &gt; interface FastEthernet1/2 &gt; no switchport &gt; ip address 172.29.4.33 255.255.255.240 &gt; duplex full &gt; end &gt; &gt; ! &gt; interface Loopback0 &gt; ip address 172.30.0.1 255.255.240.0 &gt; end &gt; &gt; router o spf 1 &gt; log-adjacency-changes &gt; redistribute connected metric-type 1 subnets route-map CONN-&gt;OSPF &gt; network 172.29.4.33 0.0.0.0 area 10 &gt; network 172.29.4.49 0.0.0.0 area 10 &gt; &gt; route-map CONN-&gt;OSPF permit 10 &gt; match interface Loopback0 &gt; &gt; B &gt; &gt; B &gt; &gt; Fernando Sete Garcia &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html<br />
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		<title>OSPF cost behaviour</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#8217;m trying to figure out why manipulating interface OSPF cost does&#8217;t change the path to get to a network on a scenario like this:
172.30.0.0/20 R3 /B B B B B B   R1 &#8212; R2
R1-R3 - Area 10 R2-R3 - Area 10 R1-R2 - Area 0
Increasing OSPF cost on path R2-&#62;R3 should&#8217;t R2 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear GS,<br />
I&#8217;m trying to figure out why manipulating interface OSPF cost does&#8217;t change the path to get to a network on a scenario like this:<br />
172.30.0.0/20 R3 /B B B B B B   R1 &#8212; R2<br />
R1-R3 - Area 10 R2-R3 - Area 10 R1-R2 - Area 0<br />
Increasing OSPF cost on path R2-&gt;R3 should&#8217;t R2 prefer R1 to get to 172.30.0.0/20 ?<br />
R2#show ip route 172.30.0.0 Routing entry for 172.30.0.0/20, 1 known subnets<br />
O E1B B B  172.30.0.0 [110/30] via 172.29.4.33, 00:00:01, Ethernet0/1<br />
After changing Cost to 1000, R2 still prefers same path, even with a higher cost:<br />
R2#conf t Enter configuration commands, one per line.B  End with CNTL/Z. R2(config)#int et 0/1 R2(config-if)#ip ospf cost 1000 R2(config-if)#^Z R2#show ip route 172.30.0.0 Routing entry for 172.30.0.0/20, 1 known subnets<br />
O E1B B B  172.30.0.0 [110/1020] via 172.29.4.33 , 00:00:10, Ethernet0/1B B  OSPF network 172.29.4.33 0.0.0.0 area 10 network 172.29.4.49 0.0.0.0 area 10<br />
route-map CONN-&gt;OSPF permit 10 match interface Loopback0<br />
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		<title>OSPF Virtual Links and PPPoFR</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Guys, I&#8217;ve been trying to get running OSPF Virtual Links over a 3 routers topology 1 hub + 2 spokes using PPPoFR for connecting between them, where one of the spokes is the backbone and I have some Loopbacks created on each router on different areas, so finally I only can get running the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Guys, I&#8217;ve been trying to get running OSPF Virtual Links over a 3 routers topology 1 hub + 2 spokes using PPPoFR for connecting between them, where one of the spokes is the backbone and I have some Loopbacks created on each router on different areas, so finally I only can get running the Virtual Link going from spoke to spoke but NEVER the VL between the hub to the spoke (area 0). I changed the PPPoFR config and used only FR and everything works OK, when I try to use PPPoFR (no changes in OSPF config) I get the same problem.<br />
I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m missing something&#8230;.. do you have any suggestion??<br />
Regards&#8230;. Victor.<br />
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		<title>CCIE Certification - OT</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Guys,I just did what Jared suggested after my first message. Created a second cco register, disasociated my true ID (which has my CSCO id) from the company (by the way, it&#8217;s instantaneous but the guy responsible for the relationship with Cisco receives also an instant communication) so in this register I&#8217;ve no longer partner [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Guys,I just did what Jared suggested after my first message. Created a second cco register, disasociated my true ID (which has my CSCO id) from the company (by the way, it&#8217;s instantaneous but the guy responsible for the relationship with Cisco receives also an instant communication) so in this register I&#8217;ve no longer partner access. After that I requested association to the company with my second cco id, that&#8217;s all. I&#8217;m lucky because nobody asked anything but I decided to take the risk.<br />
Thanks everyone&#8230;.. Victor<br />
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Scott Morris  wrote:<br />
&gt;  It may not be instantaneous, so I&#8217;d certainly try to do it BEFORE you pass &gt; your CCIE and get further into the association mess. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  *Scott Morris*, CCIE*x4* (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, &gt; &gt; JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. &gt; &gt; JNCI-M, JNCI-ER &gt; &gt; evil@ine.com &gt; &gt; &gt;  Internetwork Expert, Inc. &gt; &gt; http://www.InternetworkExpert.com &gt; &gt; Toll Free: 877-224-8987 &gt; &gt; Outside US: 775-826-4344 &gt; &gt; &gt;  Knowledge is power. &gt; &gt; Power corrupts. &gt; &gt; Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil&#8230;&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; ospfv2 wrote: &gt; &gt; how long does it take to disassociate cco with company ? &gt; does it happen immediately when you press the button ? &gt; then i will do that before my lab date. &gt; &gt; thx &gt; &gt; &gt; On 7/9/09, George Roman   wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt;  Hi All, &gt; I never associated my number with anyone but what you guys say here is more &gt; then a horror movie. &gt; I always thought that CCIE number association is a matter of free will, &gt; something that you have to give your approval in order for it to happen. &gt; Why can&#8217;t you write an email to cisco and ask them to deassociate you number &gt; ? Why do you need to change CCO  ?? &gt; &gt; Best regards, &gt; George &gt; &gt; On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Victor   wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  Thank you very much Guys for your valuable advise. &gt; &gt; Brgds&#8230;.. Victor &gt; &gt; &gt; On 7/7/09, Hoogen   wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt;  That is definitely worth it if your company is troubling you so much. &gt; &gt; &gt;  Once &gt; &gt; &gt;  you leave the company, you can ask Cisco to merge your two id&#8217;s. &gt; &gt; -Hoogen &gt; &gt; On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:19 AM,   wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  In that case, create a new cco. &gt; Take the written again using the new cco.(sorry, but worth it). &gt; Take the lab with your new cco. &gt; &gt; Current company can continue to use the old.  You can use the new &gt; &gt; &gt;  towards &gt; &gt; &gt;  the next company. &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; From: Victor   &gt; &gt; Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:08:29 &gt; To:  ; Cisco certification &gt; &gt;  ccielab@groupstudy.com &gt; &gt;  Subject: Re: CCIE Certification - OT &gt; &gt; &gt; Yes Ron, that&#8217;s the problem I currently hold CCNP, CCIP, CCDP and CSE &gt; &gt; &gt;  and &gt; &gt; &gt;  at &gt; least the last one counts for them. &gt; &gt; On 7/7/09, ron.wilkerson@gmail.com   wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt;  Yep.  Make sure that your current company isn&#8217;t already using your &gt; &gt; &gt;  current &gt; &gt; &gt;  certs for their benefit.  If they are, you&#8217;re stuck as your cco is &gt; &gt; &gt;  already &gt; &gt; &gt;  tied to them. &gt; &gt; If you don&#8217;t have any current certs, then even better as they won&#8217;t &gt; &gt; &gt;   have &gt; &gt; &gt;  a &gt; &gt; &gt;  need to use your cco! &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; From: Rob Clav   &gt; &gt; Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:17:41 &gt; To: Victor  &gt; Cc: Cisco certification  &gt; Subject: Re: CCIE Certification - OT &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi Victor, &gt; you can&#8217;t do it without loose your priviledge level. Because some of &gt; &gt; &gt;  them &gt; &gt; &gt;  are related to your company not to your profile. &gt; But also you need to be aware if you finally do it, due to they will &gt; &gt; &gt;   be &gt; &gt; &gt;   notified by Cisco!! because they probably are using your cert for &gt; &gt; &gt;   their &gt; &gt; &gt;   profit. I had suffered something similar at my last company but &gt; &gt; &gt;   related &gt; &gt; &gt;   with &gt; time for study. &gt; HTH, &gt; Robclav &gt; &gt; 2009/7/7 Victor   &gt; &gt;              Hello Guys, &gt; &gt; Sorry about this OT message but I would like to hear your opinion &gt; on &gt; &gt; &gt;  it. &gt; &gt; &gt;  I &gt; &gt; &gt;  work for a Cisco Global Partner and I working in my CCIE &gt; &gt; &gt;   certification &gt; &gt; &gt;   for &gt; &gt; &gt;  about 2 years, I will attempt for the lab on next August. My &gt; company &gt; &gt; &gt;  has &gt; &gt; &gt;  not &gt; been cooperative with me regarding the certifcation, in fact they &gt; do &gt; everything to discourage your purposes to get CCIE certified, even &gt; &gt; &gt;  they &gt; &gt; &gt;  announced no payment raise. 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		<title>dot1q tag native &amp; sh int switchport</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depends on a platform, on 6500/4500 there would be a reason since it  supports per switchport native VLAN tagging disabling with interface  command &#8220;no switchport trunk native vlan tag&#8221;. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/configuration/guide/dot1qtnl.html#wp1006255
I&#8217;d put it this way; &#8220;show interface switchport&#8221; for 3560/3750 platforms  has some misleading/missing lines. Since this is a minor disadvantage  and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on a platform, on 6500/4500 there would be a reason since it  supports per switchport native VLAN tagging disabling with interface  command &#8220;no switchport trunk native vlan tag&#8221;. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/configuration/guide/dot1qtnl.html#wp1006255<br />
I&#8217;d put it this way; &#8220;show interface switchport&#8221; for 3560/3750 platforms  has some misleading/missing lines. Since this is a minor disadvantage  and there is a way to verify what actually is happening, it has probably  escaped quality assurance testers&#8217; attention. Another possible reason  for having &#8220;Administrative&#8221; for this as enabled might be in original  idea of having a global &#8220;vlan do1q tag native&#8221; enabled by default which  didn&#8217;t happen.<br />
If you are so keen on finding the real one, you can try and open P4 case  with TAC, we&#8217;d love to hear the story. <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
A.<br />
 Keegan.Holley@sungard.com wrote: &gt; &gt; Well, native vlan tagging is administratively disabled, but it still  &gt; shows up as enabled in the sh int switchport.  Also, there no  &gt; operational status entry.  Lastly, native vlan tagging isn&#8217;t  &gt; negotiated so there would be no reason for the operational and  &gt; administrative modes to differ. &gt; &gt; RSRack1SW1#sh vlan dot1q tag native &gt; dot1q native vlan tagging is disabled &gt; &gt; RSRack1SW1#sh int g0/13 sw &gt; RSRack1SW1#sh int g0/13 switchport &gt; Name: Gi0/13 &gt; Switchport: Enabled &gt; Administrative Mode: trunk &gt; Operational Mode: trunk &gt; Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: dot1q &gt; Operational Trunking Encapsulation: dot1q &gt; Negotiation of Trunking: On &gt; Access Mode VLAN: 1 (default) &gt; Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 46 (VLAN_46) &gt; Administrative Native VLAN tagging: enabled &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 	 &gt; *Re: dot1q tag native &amp; sh int switchport* &gt; &gt; &gt; *Alexei Monastyrnyi * 	to: 	Keegan.Holley 	 &gt; 07/14/09 08:38 PM &gt; &gt; &gt; Cc: 	Group study &gt; &gt; &gt; *Please respond to alexeim73* 	 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I think &#8220;Administrative&#8221; means the state the port was administered to be &gt; or start from by configuration commands, Some one can probably correct &gt; me on that. &gt; &gt; Like in this quick example below. &gt; &gt; Fa0/1 is configured for switcport mode &#8220;dynamic desirable&#8221; and there is &gt; no such thing for operational mode, it would be either trunk or access &gt; port. So here we go, observing how Administrative Mode changes as we &gt; change a switchport configuration. &gt; &gt; SW1#sh run in fa 0/1 &gt; Building configuration&#8230; &gt; &gt; Current configuration : 105 bytes &gt; ! &gt; interface FastEthernet0/1 &gt; description R1 eth 0/0 &gt; switchport mode dynamic desirable &gt; duplex full &gt; end &gt; &gt; SW1#sh inter fa 0/1 swi &gt; Name: Fa0/1 &gt; Switchport: Enabled &gt; Administrative Mode: dynamic desirable &gt; Operational Mode: static access &gt; [&#8230;] &gt; &gt; &gt; SW1#conf t &gt; Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z. &gt; SW1(config)#in fa 0/1 &gt; SW1(config-if)#sw mode acc &gt; SW1(config-if)#do sh run in fa 0/1 &gt; Building configuration&#8230; &gt; &gt; Current configuration : 94 bytes &gt; ! &gt; interface FastEthernet0/1 &gt; description R1 eth 0/0 &gt; switchport mode access &gt; duplex full &gt; end &gt; &gt; &gt; SW1(config-if)#do sh int fa 0/1 swi &gt; Name: Fa0/1 &gt; Switchport: Enabled &gt; Administrative Mode: static access &gt; Operational Mode: static access &gt; [&#8230;] &gt; &gt; I think for tagging native VLAN &#8220;Operational Mode&#8221; is just missing for &gt; whatever reason. Might be interesting to file it as a fix request for &gt; the show command to TAC. <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &gt; &gt; HTH &gt; A. &gt; &gt; &gt; Keegan.Holley@sungard.com wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Any idea what it does mean?   &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks for answering, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Keegan &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;                   &gt; &gt; *Re: dot1q tag native &amp; sh int switchport* &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *Alexei Monastyrnyi *                  to:                  &gt;  Keegan.Holley                   &gt; &gt; 07/14/09 07:20 PM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *Please respond to alexeim73*                   &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi. &gt; &gt; It doesn&#8217;t really mean operational status of the switch-port for dot1q &gt; &gt; native vlan tagging. On some platforms (like 6500) there is actually &gt; &gt; &#8220;Operational Native VLAN Tagging: &#8230; &#8221; line in &#8220;show interface &gt; &gt; switchport&#8221; output which changes according to &#8220;vlan dot tag native&#8221; &gt; &gt; presence in the ocnfig. So you&#8217;d better trust &#8220;show vlan dot tag antive&#8221; &gt; &gt; output. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; HTH &gt; &gt; A. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Keegan.Holley@sungard.com wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; No, acutally.   &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;                   &gt; &gt; &gt; *Re: dot1q tag native &amp; sh int switchport* &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *Alexei Monastyrnyi *                  to:                 &gt; &gt;  Keegan.Holley                   &gt; &gt; &gt; 07/13/09 10:32 PM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *Please respond to alexeim73*                   &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  &gt; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; haven&#8217;t you got my replay mate/? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Keegan.Holley@sungard.com wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sorry for the repost.  Just wondering if no one saw it or no one &gt; &gt; &gt; knows the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; answer. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; dot1q tag native &amp; sh int switchport &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Keegan.Holley &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Cisco certification &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 07/12/09 11:33 PM &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent by: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; nobody@groupstudy.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Please respond to Keegan.Holley &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Does anyone know what the Administrative native vlan tagging line &gt; &gt; &gt; means in &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the show int switchport?  It always says enabled even when  &gt; native vlan &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; tagging is off. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; RSRack1SW2(config)#do sh int g0/16 swi &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Name: Gi0/16 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Switchport: Enabled &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Administrative Mode: trunk &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Operational Mode: trunk &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: dot1q &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Operational Trunking Encapsulation: dot1q &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Negotiation of Trunking: On &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Access Mode VLAN: 1 (default) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 46 (VLAN_46) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Administrative Native VLAN tagging: enabled &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Voice VLAN: none &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; RSRack1SW2(config)#do sh vlan dot tag native &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; dot1q native vlan tagging is disabled &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; RSRack1SW2(config)# &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  &gt;  http://www.ccie.net/&gt;http://www.ccie.net/&gt;http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  &gt;  http://www.ccie.net/&gt;http://www.ccie.net/&gt;http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html<br />
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		<title>OSPF NBMA and Multipoint Beighbourship Issues</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was being lazy too   and just googled for something well-written on  this matter instead of doing all the hard work myself.
This URL might help you in your endeavors. http://ardenpackeer.com/routing-protocols/tutorial-ospf-network-types-and-frame-relay-part-4/
HTH, A.
Con Spathas wrote: &#62; I was being lazy - I simply copied that debug from a post I made on &#62; another [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being lazy too <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  and just googled for something well-written on  this matter instead of doing all the hard work myself.<br />
This URL might help you in your endeavors. http://ardenpackeer.com/routing-protocols/tutorial-ospf-network-types-and-frame-relay-part-4/<br />
HTH, A.<br />
Con Spathas wrote: &gt; I was being lazy - I simply copied that debug from a post I made on &gt; another forum a few weeks ago with a similar issue! <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  &gt; &gt; I tried it again now though just quickly and the thing I noticed &gt; between the P2P router and the B/Cast router is that B/Cast was going &gt; through the DR/BDR election process, whereas P2P wasn&#8217;t - nothing &gt; jumped out and said mis-matched interface types or anything like that. &gt; &gt; I&#8217;m now going back to being lazy and reading Doyle instead of working on labs. &gt; &gt; On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:57 PM,  wrote: &gt;    &gt;&gt; Try debug ip ospf adj and events.  Sorry not being lazy, just still working. &gt;&gt;  I&#8217;ll probably try this on my own later. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; From: Con Spathas  &gt;&gt; To: &gt;&gt; Divin Mathew John  &gt;&gt; Cc: Keegan.Holley@sungard.com, Cisco certification , &gt;&gt; nobody@groupstudy.com &gt;&gt; Date: 07/13/2009 03:54 PM &gt;&gt; Subject: Re: OSPF NBMA and Multipoint Beighbourship Issues &gt;&gt; Sent by: nobody@groupstudy.com &gt;&gt; ________________________________ &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I caught this on the &#8216;debug ip ospf spf&#8217; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Mismatched network types sees this: &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; *Mar  1 00:05:56.115:   Processing link 1, id 2.2.2.2, link data &gt;&gt; 12.12.12.1, type 1 &gt;&gt; *Mar  1 00:05:56.115:   No RTR Back link &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Matches networks types (in this cast both p2p) see this: &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; *Mar  1 00:13:12.087:   Processing link 2, id 2.2.2.2, link data &gt;&gt; 255.255.255.255, type 3 &gt;&gt; *Mar  1 00:13:12.091:    Add better path to LSA ID 2.2.2.2, gateway &gt;&gt; 2.2.2.2, dist 11 &gt;&gt; *Mar  1 00:13:12.095:    Add path: next-hop 12.12.12.2, interface &gt;&gt; Ethernet0/0 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I can&#8217;t seem to find much about the &#8216;No RTR Back link&#8217; debug though. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Divin Mathew John &gt;&gt; wrote: &gt;&gt;      &gt;&gt;&gt; I think i figured it out&#8230; as long as the timers are same&#8230; they &gt;&gt;&gt; neighbourship comes  up&#8230; but&#8230;if the Network types arent fully &gt;&gt;&gt; compatible &gt;&gt;&gt; with each other prefixes arent exchanged.! &gt;&gt;&gt; Thanking You &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Yours Sincerely &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Divin Mathew John &gt;&gt;&gt; divinjohn@gmail.com &gt;&gt;&gt; divin@dide3d.com &gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.dide3d.com &gt;&gt;&gt; +91 9945430983 &gt;&gt;&gt; +91 9846697191 &gt;&gt;&gt; +974 5008916 &gt;&gt;&gt; PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK @ http://www.dide3d.com/divin_Public_PGP_key.txt &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:39 PM,  wrote: &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;        &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Point to mutipoint interfaces don&#8217;t elect DR&#8217;s.  All the DR really does &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; is &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ensure that there is only one lsdb per subnet which is done here.  Just &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; because the other router thinks there is no DR doesn&#8217;t change the fact &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R1 has the full DB.  I tried this in a lab once.  I can&#8217;t remember why &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; routes disappear though.   Do some debugs if you really want to know &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; what&#8217;s &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; going on.  Since they are fully adjacent my guess is that they both have &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; LSDB but there is something wrong with the LSA&#8217;s themselves like invalid &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; next hops or sth. But that&#8217;s just a guess of course.  I&#8217;m sure someone &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; will &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; correct me shortly. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Keegan &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  From: Divin Mathew John  To: Cisco certification &gt;&gt;&gt; ccielab@groupstudy.com&gt; Date: 07/13/2009 01:33 PM Subject: OSPF NBMA and &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Multipoint Beighbourship Issues Sent by: nobody@groupstudy.com &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; hello &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I have this scenario&#8230;. R1&#8212;&#8212;FR-Switch&#8212;-R2 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R1 to R2 102 Dlci &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R2 to R1 DLCI 201 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R1 config &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; interface Serial0/0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ip address 12.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; encapsulation frame-relay &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ip ospf network point-to-multipoint &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; serial restart-delay 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; frame-relay map ip 12.1.1.2 102 broadcast &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; router ospf 1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; log-adjacency-changes &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; network 1.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; network 12.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; neighbor 12.1.1.2 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R2 Config &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; interface Loopback0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; interface Serial0/0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ip address 12.1.1.2 255.255.255.0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; encapsulation frame-relay &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ip ospf network non-broadcast &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; serial restart-delay 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; frame-relay map ip 12.1.1.1 201 broadcast &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; interface Serial0/1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; no ip address &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; shutdown &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; serial restart-delay 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; interface Serial0/2 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; no ip address &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; shutdown &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; serial restart-delay 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; interface Serial0/3 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; no ip address &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; shutdown &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; serial restart-delay 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; router ospf 1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; log-adjacency-changes &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; network 2.2.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; network 12.1.1.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ! &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R1#show ip ospf neighbor &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Neighbor ID     Pri   State           Dead Time   Address &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Interface &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 12.1.1.2          0   FULL/  -        00:01:32    12.1.1.2 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Serial0/0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R1#sio int se0/0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Serial0/0 is up, line protocol is up &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Internet Address 12.1.1.1/24, Area 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Process ID 1, Router ID 12.1.1.1, Network Type POINT_TO_MULTIPOINT, &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cost: &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 64 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_MULTIPOINT, &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Timer intervals configured, Hello 30, Dead 120, Wait 120, Retransmit 5 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    oob-resync timeout 120 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    Hello due in 00:00:11 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Supports Link-local Signaling (LLS) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Index 1/1, flood queue length 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Next 0&#215;0(0)/0&#215;0(0) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Last flood scan length is 1, maximum is 1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Last flood scan time is 4 msec, maximum is 4 msec &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    Adjacent with neighbor 12.1.1.2 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R2#show ip ospf neighbor &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 12.1.1.1          1   FULL/BDR        00:01:33    12.1.1.1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Serial0/0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; R2#sio int se0/0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Serial0/0 is up, line protocol is up &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Internet Address 12.1.1.2/24, Area 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Process ID 1, Router ID 12.1.1.2, Network Type NON_BROADCAST, Cost: 64 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DR, Priority 1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Designated Router (ID) 12.1.1.2, Interface address 12.1.1.2 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Backup Designated router (ID) 12.1.1.1, Interface address 12.1.1.1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Timer intervals configured, Hello 30, Dead 120, Wait 120, Retransmit 5 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    oob-resync timeout 120 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    Hello due in 00:00:06 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Supports Link-local Signaling (LLS) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Index 1/1, flood queue length 0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Next 0&#215;0(0)/0&#215;0(0) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Last flood scan length is 1, maximum is 1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Last flood scan time is 0 msec, maximum is 4 msec &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Neighbor Count is 1, Adjacent neighbor count is 1 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    Adjacent with neighbor 12.1.1.1  (Backup Designated Router) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  Suppress hello for 0 neighbor(s) &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Now the adjacency forms between R1 and R2 &#8230;but routes aren&#8217;t being &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; exchanged.. but adj stays up always..! According to what i have read, If &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; network type wants DR/BDR election..it will only make neighbor with a &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; network type with DR/BDR election.. like NBMA and Broadcast are &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; compatible. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; P-2-M and P2P are compatible&#8230; when timers are adjusted of course. 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