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		<title>Comment on Want to Build a Better Web API?  Build a Client Library! by John Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure...that's a good question.  My gut tells me that not a whole lot would change with regards to the web API.  But, I've yet to go down that road...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure&#8230;that&#8217;s a good question.  My gut tells me that not a whole lot would change with regards to the web API.  But, I&#8217;ve yet to go down that road&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Want to Build a Better Web API?  Build a Client Library! by Jeff Judge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Judge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post John.

I also think it's interesting thinking about building a client library across multiple languages and how your thoughts about the API methods might change. Think that would have any impact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post John.</p>
<p>I also think it&#8217;s interesting thinking about building a client library across multiple languages and how your thoughts about the API methods might change. Think that would have any impact?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bugzilla and SMTP Authentication by John Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 11:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Ravindra,

I haven't used Bugzilla since I wrote this blog post in 2008.  So, unfortunately, I can't help.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Ravindra,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t used Bugzilla since I wrote this blog post in 2008.  So, unfortunately, I can&#8217;t help.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bugzilla and SMTP Authentication by Ravindra Singh Gohil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravindra Singh Gohil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 07:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

I have installed bugzilla 4.2.1 on centos 6.2 and it is working fine, but when I try to send create new account invitation it will show the following:

A confirmation email has been sent containing a link to continue creating an account. The link will expire if an account is not created within 3 days. 

But the client/user is not receiving any bugzilla mail.


Thanks in advance,
Ravindra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>I have installed bugzilla 4.2.1 on centos 6.2 and it is working fine, but when I try to send create new account invitation it will show the following:</p>
<p>A confirmation email has been sent containing a link to continue creating an account. The link will expire if an account is not created within 3 days. </p>
<p>But the client/user is not receiving any bugzilla mail.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance,<br />
Ravindra</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fast Queries on Large Datasets Using MongoDB and Summary Documents by John Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom,

Thanks for the comments.

1) The document represents a day in the user's time zone.  The time zone in the "date" field is not used.  So, the user is stuck with this timezone, but not forever.  The summary documents summarize data that is stored in our MySQL database.  If necessary, we can always rebuild them for a user based on a new time zone.

2) The 502ms is for the full HTTP request, and not just the database query.  I don't have the breakdown, but I don't think MongoDB was a big part of that time.  I think much of it was spent in Ruby/Rails code (we fetch the documents from MongoDB, and then sum the data using Ruby code), and the HTTP request in general.  If I'm able to track down the breakdown of that request, I'll post it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments.</p>
<p>1) The document represents a day in the user&#8217;s time zone.  The time zone in the &#8220;date&#8221; field is not used.  So, the user is stuck with this timezone, but not forever.  The summary documents summarize data that is stored in our MySQL database.  If necessary, we can always rebuild them for a user based on a new time zone.</p>
<p>2) The 502ms is for the full HTTP request, and not just the database query.  I don&#8217;t have the breakdown, but I don&#8217;t think MongoDB was a big part of that time.  I think much of it was spent in Ruby/Rails code (we fetch the documents from MongoDB, and then sum the data using Ruby code), and the HTTP request in general.  If I&#8217;m able to track down the breakdown of that request, I&#8217;ll post it here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fast Queries on Large Datasets Using MongoDB and Summary Documents by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article, which I came across in searching for usages of summary tables in mongo.  A few questions:

1) Since you're summarizing daily, does that mean you just pick a timezone and stick with it forever?  In the code sample it looks like you're using UTC, but you're based in the US.  Is it an issue to people looking at the reports that the "days" are 6-8 hours off of what they might be expecting?  (This is something I'm trying to plan around).

2) Maybe I've misread the conclusion, but if it takes on the order of a half a second to run a report that's querying 30 rows, that still seems about an order of magnitude too slow, no?  At least, coming from a relational background, I would expect this to be a tens-of and not hundreds-of millisecond operation.  Do you think this this because you wound up having to do the summations post-facto, Ruby?

Thanks again for sharing the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article, which I came across in searching for usages of summary tables in mongo.  A few questions:</p>
<p>1) Since you&#8217;re summarizing daily, does that mean you just pick a timezone and stick with it forever?  In the code sample it looks like you&#8217;re using UTC, but you&#8217;re based in the US.  Is it an issue to people looking at the reports that the &#8220;days&#8221; are 6-8 hours off of what they might be expecting?  (This is something I&#8217;m trying to plan around).</p>
<p>2) Maybe I&#8217;ve misread the conclusion, but if it takes on the order of a half a second to run a report that&#8217;s querying 30 rows, that still seems about an order of magnitude too slow, no?  At least, coming from a relational background, I would expect this to be a tens-of and not hundreds-of millisecond operation.  Do you think this this because you wound up having to do the summations post-facto, Ruby?</p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing the article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CouchDB: A Case Study by Getting off the Couch(DB) | Signal blog | Programmer Solution | Programmer Solution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getting off the Couch(DB) | Signal blog | Programmer Solution | Programmer Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from some of our largest tables into CouchDB to help us reduce the load on our MySQL server (see this series of blog posts for more [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Getting off the Couch(DB) | Signal blog | Programmer Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from some of our largest tables into CouchDB to help us reduce the load on our MySQL server (see this series of blog posts for more [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on An Adjustment in Priorities by Jeff Judge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Judge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t know how so much time slipped past between you posting this and me reading it. I’ve been thinking a lot about time and priorities myself and agree that you’ve got to take a hard line on prioritizing and doing what’s right for you. I’ll be interested to see what you’re up to by way of whatever you write about it or talk about it at the office.

Also, I know you’re interested mobile optimization of applications – something we’re focusing on heavily this year. I think there will be a treasure trove of projects there that’ll get you excited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know how so much time slipped past between you posting this and me reading it. I’ve been thinking a lot about time and priorities myself and agree that you’ve got to take a hard line on prioritizing and doing what’s right for you. I’ll be interested to see what you’re up to by way of whatever you write about it or talk about it at the office.</p>
<p>Also, I know you’re interested mobile optimization of applications – something we’re focusing on heavily this year. I think there will be a treasure trove of projects there that’ll get you excited.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What I Learned by Attending a Code Retreat by Jessitron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessitron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a great idea. I'll have to look for one of those around here.

I agree that practice doesn't make perfect, but perfect practice isn't necessary (or sufficient) either. It takes practice and reflection. This is exactly what you did at that retreat: practice, then think about how you did it, what you did well, what you could do better. Devoting a portion of our mind during practice to recording what we're doing, and then reviewing and reflecting on those observations and the results later -- that's how we get better.

Practice and reflection! it's my motto. (one of many)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a great idea. I&#8217;ll have to look for one of those around here.</p>
<p>I agree that practice doesn&#8217;t make perfect, but perfect practice isn&#8217;t necessary (or sufficient) either. It takes practice and reflection. This is exactly what you did at that retreat: practice, then think about how you did it, what you did well, what you could do better. Devoting a portion of our mind during practice to recording what we&#8217;re doing, and then reviewing and reflecting on those observations and the results later &#8212; that&#8217;s how we get better.</p>
<p>Practice and reflection! it&#8217;s my motto. (one of many)</p>
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		<title>Comment on What I Learned by Attending a Code Retreat by John Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Corey.  I already have November 20th blocked off on my calendar :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Corey.  I already have November 20th blocked off on my calendar :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on What I Learned by Attending a Code Retreat by coreyhaines</title>
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		<dc:creator>coreyhaines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing this up, John. It really captures the intent and experience of a coderetreat well. I'm glad you enjoyed yourself and got the core lessons out of it: practice and how to practice.

We'll be having another one on the day after the Software Craftsmanship North America conference. Look for the registration to go up sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this up, John. It really captures the intent and experience of a coderetreat well. I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed yourself and got the core lessons out of it: practice and how to practice.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be having another one on the day after the Software Craftsmanship North America conference. Look for the registration to go up sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fast Queries on Large Datasets Using MongoDB and Summary Documents by John Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely. Knock yourself out! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. Knock yourself out! :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fast Queries on Large Datasets Using MongoDB and Summary Documents by Meghan Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meghan Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we list you on our production deployments page?

http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Production+Deployments

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we list you on our production deployments page?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Production+Deployments" rel="nofollow">http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Production+Deployments</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fast Queries on Large Datasets Using MongoDB and Summary Documents by John Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 19:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification Mathias!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification Mathias!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fast Queries on Large Datasets Using MongoDB and Summary Documents by Mathias Stearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathias Stearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 19:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I hoped that since we had built an index for the fields that MapReduce was using to determine if a document should be selected, that MongoDB would utilize that index to help find the eligible documents. Unfortunately that was not the case."

If you use the query option to the mapreduce command it will be able to use the index to filter the objects to map over. However if you do the selection in your map function with an if statement then that can't use an index. Either way for 365 smallish docs, it will still probably be faster to process client-side anyway, especially if you make good use of the second argument to find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hoped that since we had built an index for the fields that MapReduce was using to determine if a document should be selected, that MongoDB would utilize that index to help find the eligible documents. Unfortunately that was not the case.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you use the query option to the mapreduce command it will be able to use the index to filter the objects to map over. However if you do the selection in your map function with an if statement then that can&#8217;t use an index. Either way for 365 smallish docs, it will still probably be faster to process client-side anyway, especially if you make good use of the second argument to find.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using Multiple Database Models in a Single Application by FARHAD AFSAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>FARHAD AFSAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article !
What's Your opinion about this plan ? =&gt; 1 small DB per user account ?
i built THIS plan but still not published to web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article !<br />
What&#8217;s Your opinion about this plan ? =&gt; 1 small DB per user account ?<br />
i built THIS plan but still not published to web</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bugzilla and SMTP Authentication by Hai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 09:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem was resovled, the cause is the Authen::SASL module is needed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem was resovled, the cause is the Authen::SASL module is needed</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bugzilla and SMTP Authentication by John Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I did not get that error.

I created this patch while using bugzilla 3.0.  It looks like SMTP authentication was added in the 3.2.x release (http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat).  So, you should not need this patch for version 4.0 of bugzilla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I did not get that error.</p>
<p>I created this patch while using bugzilla 3.0.  It looks like SMTP authentication was added in the 3.2.x release (<a href="http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat" rel="nofollow">http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/4.0/release-notes.html#v40_feat</a>).  So, you should not need this patch for version 4.0 of bugzilla.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Hai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I try to install bugzilla 4.0 and use smtp to send the notice but hit the problem
"The new value for smtp_username is invalid: SMTP Authentication is not available. Run checksetup.pl for more details."
is this the same with you?
thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I try to install bugzilla 4.0 and use smtp to send the notice but hit the problem<br />
&#8220;The new value for smtp_username is invalid: SMTP Authentication is not available. Run checksetup.pl for more details.&#8221;<br />
is this the same with you?<br />
thank you</p>
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