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<p>I&#8217;ve decided it&#8217;s time to mothball the site until I can find time to get it redesigned to something with its own distinct purpose &#8211; namely, something more stationary, ala <a href="http://www.warrenellis.com/">Warren </a>and <a href="http://jamiemckelvie.com/">Jamie</a>. </p>
<p>At the moment, it&#8217;s basically just an extra task on the To Do list to port content from the tumblr to here. As such, the <a href="http://kierongillen.tumblr.com">tumblr </a>remains for my generalised blogging. At least at the moment, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/kierongillen">twitter </a>is me in chatting mode, though I&#8217;m considering stepping back from there as well. </p>
<p>The <a href="http://tinyletter.com/kierongillen">Newsletter </a>is basically the direct replacement for the Workblog, in terms of being the MUST KNOW updates, and extended pieces of writing. Follow that if you want to keep in touch with what I&#8217;m up to. I will try to entertain.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been running this workblog since 2002, so the decision of &#8220;no, this is not worth it any more&#8221; surprises me with how swiftly it&#8217;s come on. You wake up one day and figure &#8220;That&#8217;s enough.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Spoilers, obv.</p>
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<p>The specials have been<br />
quite the time, having several ways to stress everyone the hell out.<br />
The amount of work that goes into a special is far more than any<br />
single script can justify in cold commercial terms. It&#8217;s lucky that<br />
I&#8217;m only choosing periods that I&#8217;m interested in researching to<br />
death.</p>
<p>I suspect (or at least<br />
hope) that in terms of background reading, 455 is the most. 1831 was<br />
hard, but is a relatively tight period I looked at in depth. 455<br />
basically involved researching the whole of the Western Roman Empire.<br />
This means the work was a much broader sweep. In the same way I<br />
suspected the 1831 story would be about Frankenstein, I knew this<br />
would probably be about what happened at one of the sacks of Rome.<br />
Not definitely – I&#8217;ve always got room to change tack if something<br />
more profitable turns up in the research – but likely.</p>
<p>As I started work, I<br />
realised the main advantage of the sack near the end of the Western<br />
Roman Empire is that it means you can do a swan song for the whole<br />
thing. Everything has already happened, so you can use it all. Thus<br />
we&#8217;ve got something which feels a little like a Roman Greatest Hits<br />
story.</p>
<p>Simultaneously, there&#8217;s<br />
the awareness that while I think a lot of this is relatively well<br />
known, even the most basic facts aren&#8217;t. Early readers made me aware<br />
that even basic ideas like Julius Caesar being dead for 500 years by<br />
this period can&#8217;t be assumed – a level of historical literacy<br />
equivalent of not blinking if Joan of Arc turned up in a WW2 story.<br />
That&#8217;s just audiences, and the vague sense of “Rome stuff” fills<br />
about 1000 years of people&#8217;s imagination. As such, that our story is<br />
acounter-history required the introduction of what the real history<br />
actually was.</p>
<p>As I knew this was coming<br />
along way off, the research was a slow boil. I knew Rome, in various<br />
periods, relatively well. From the Punic Wars to Augustus is stuff<br />
I&#8217;ve read about many times – Carthage is something I&#8217;ve always<br />
wanted to do a story about. What I was looking for is a long sweep<br />
across the whole thing, to live with it a while, and let me think<br />
along the way. The actual device I used was The History Of Rome<br />
podcast by Mike Duncan, which goes from legendary prehistory to about<br />
20 years after 455. It&#8217;s about 60 hours of stuff, by my rough match,<br />
which I worked into my listening routine – which is mainly when<br />
working out, running, travelling or doing the dishes. I listen to my<br />
podcasts at 1.5x.</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>That<br />
was for most of 2016. After that, it was digging down into specific<br />
texts, the majority which happened in December/January. Trying to<br />
play with various theories about the decline of the Roman Empire was<br />
paramount. Everyone has one, and be suspicious of anyone who gives<br />
you one reason. The book which generally was most influential in<br />
terms of how I chose to present Rome was The Fall of the Roman<br />
Empire: A New History by Peter Heather, which<br />
basically forwards the idea that Rome fell due to trade across their<br />
borders creating increased population density of Barbarian tribes<br />
which (as opposed to earlier periods) the Romans were unwilling to<br />
integrate into the fabric of the Empire.
</p>
<p>I went with my own<br />
counter-theory, of course, which was that an Old Lady Did It.</p>
<p>(The Old Lady Did It is a<br />
Roman Trope of long standing. I&#8217;m a proud owner of a Livia Did It<br />
T-shirt.)</p>
<p>Anyway – too much<br />
research, and I&#8217;ll try and drop some things I&#8217;d wanted to use but<br />
didn&#8217;t as we go through it. Suffice to say, there&#8217;s nothing<br />
comforting about reading about Rome in the current political climate.</p>
<p>Anyway – Andre! I&#8217;d<br />
first encountered his work in Avengers AI, written by my friend Sam<br />
Humphries. That weird, neon-infused Cyberpunk vibe was a big part of<br />
the book&#8217;s appeal for me, so I started following him. I believe we<br />
started talking properly around the time of his own Man Plus, which<br />
was is a Otomo-does-Akira-In-Portugal kick, and was another thing<br />
which made me file Andre in my “Sci-fi artist file.”</p>
<p>However, after we got<br />
talking, he showed me some of his other in-development pitches, which<br />
included historical and fantasy work. Which made me go “Hmm.”<br />
He&#8217;s got a mass of gifts, but I had one image that I knew I needed<br />
for 455 – the Roman Triumph, with a God in the chariot. That<br />
demanded a certain sort of artist, namely one who was happy to<br />
actually draw a triumph in all its ludicrous glory. Andre, someone<br />
whose work had more than its fair share of city-scapes and crowds,<br />
seemed like someone who&#8217;d nail that – plus the confluence of<br />
European and Manga influences in the work would gel interestingly.<br />
We&#8217;d get Rome as a place, and that&#8217;s what we needed.</p>
<p>He was working on<br />
Generation Gone with Ales Kot, but they talked, and Andre took as<br />
month off the preparation for that to do the special. Thanks, guys.</p>
<p>Colours are provided by<br />
Matt “Eisner For Matt” Wilson, and seeing how the two of them<br />
worked together was definitely one of the more intriguing parts of<br />
the process.</p>
<p>Andre&#8217;s Cover</p>
<p>Done early, before the<br />
script was actually completed, which meant we were more conservative<br />
with the choice. The Laurel reef being lowered by elderly hands, the<br />
arrogance of it. A call back to the head-shots of the first year of<br />
WicDiv too. Also, compare and contrast Matt&#8217;s colouring choices here<br />
with his ones in the issue. This is a much more subdued, chalkier<br />
mode. Or that&#8217;s wot I think anyway.</p>
<p>Jamie&#8217;s Cover|<br />We were<br />
originally talking about statues of multiple gods, but as the script<br />
was still in process we didn&#8217;t want to tie down any of the cast bar<br />
Lucifer. Equally, we leaned symbolic on the cover – the flames of<br />
Rome, the statue, the grafitti&#8217;s Chi-Ro in paint (or blood)? Symbolic<br />
is good. We like Symbolic.</p>
<p>The Chi-Ro is an old<br />
Christian symbol. It&#8217;s what they say Constantine had his soldiers<br />
paint on his shields to ensure victory. My fave thing of Constantine<br />
from the research was that while he was more responsible than any for<br />
the Christianization of the Empire, he didn&#8217;t convert until just<br />
before his death. I enjoy the theory that it&#8217;s because the idea that<br />
baptizing may have been a one-time “clear all your sins”<br />
opportunity. The idea of confession and absolution wasn&#8217;t around as<br />
much. So if you convert and then commit a mortal sin, you&#8217;re off to<br />
hell. But if you commit a mortal sin and then convert, you&#8217;re fine.<br />
So Constantine may have just been gaming Christianity to ensure the<br />
best chance of a good afterlife.
</p>
<p>IFC</p>
<p>Oh god. Looking at the<br />
last paragraph makes me think this could be eternally long if I just<br />
keep on stopping and telling you fun anecdotes from memory. Also,<br />
factually dubious, as they&#8217;re from memory, and my memory cannot be<br />
trusted.</p>
<p>Jamie designed the icons,<br />
and had to work out what vibe to give it. I suspect he was grateful<br />
to me for having most the cast already being dead so saving him work.</p>
<p>The Inverted Chi-Ro isn&#8217;t<br />
a real symbol anyone used, but our best way to make a Lucifer. The<br />
biggest historical cheat in the series is using any Lucifer figure<br />
like this in the period – as far as I&#8217;m aware, the idea of a<br />
singular satanic adversary in this mode simply wasn&#8217;t around. But it<br />
dovetails with our mythology.</p>
<p>I get asked whether any<br />
special will happen earlier in the cycle. The tendency to lean<br />
towards the ends is basically the same urge which pushed towards a<br />
Roman Special at the fall. Ends let you write about the whole thing.<br />
It&#8217;s only at the end where you can say with any hope of being correct<br />
what was really happening, and even then it&#8217;s only a hope.</p>
<p>But the 1920s special is a<br />
little earlier than the end, if only because we&#8217;ve seen the actual<br />
end in issue 1.</p>
<p>(More on the 1920s special<br />
soon – there&#8217;s been a few changes in my planning on that.)</p>
<p>The text on the page is<br />
the standard WicDiv one, but the final two lines, briefly explaining<br />
the history of the Vandal sack in 455 were added at lettering to<br />
provide the necessary context to a reader.</p>
<p>Page 1-2</p>
<p>Steady angle shot, three<br />
panels on each page. The issue has been compare to Uber by several<br />
readers, primarily for the volume of the violence and the detail of<br />
the historical focus. It&#8217;s also a little like it in its storytelling<br />
like this – this lingering attempt to make a scene very normal. We<br />
don&#8217;t see the battle against the Vandals – instead, we observe from<br />
a distance. We try and make it documentary, with us an observer.</p>
<p>The animal being gutted is<br />
a goat.
</p>
<p>An example of an earlier tweak, the shepherd&#8217;s first<br />
line was “Wh&#8230;who in god&#8217;s name are you meant to be?” This could<br />
read as that our Lucifer actually <b>is</b> Julius. Changing it to<br />
“Dressed up as?” brings the artifice closer to the surface. While<br />
the nature of lucifer/Julius is explained in a few pages time, it&#8217;s<br />
not meant to be a mystery. Creating a false uninteresting question is<br />
just a distraction for the reader.</p>
<p>I kind of laugh at the idea of Lucifer wandering<br />
around near Rome, trying to find an army.</p>
<p><i>Ave Atque Vale</i>!<br />
Is a quote from Catallus, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catullus_101">related<br />
to death</a>. Originally was Ave in my first draft, which of course<br />
means “Hello!” so makes no sense to say when he&#8217;s heading away to<br />
the shepherd. If you were generous, you could say he was greeting the<br />
Vandals.
</p>
<p>The first pages which Matt coloured were these, and<br />
when I saw them, I knew it was going to be something special.</p>
<p>Yes, panicked sheep in the<br />
second panel of page 2 is a star.</p>
<p>Page 3-4</p>
<p>WicDiv is about many<br />
things, but “The fucking obvious” certainly rates highly.<br />
Triumphs are one of the big core Roman rituals we think of, when a<br />
general is given a personal parade. They&#8217;re rare and hugely<br />
important. The slave whispering “remember you are only a man” to<br />
warn against hubris is the detail which everyone loves. Clearly, in<br />
WicDiv, the resonances are all kinds of fun.</p>
<p>In terms of how comics<br />
panels are not one moment in time, have a nose at the last panel. You<br />
read the line, then the Oh!, and then the response of the slave<br />
seeing something, and then you look at the miracle, the smug, painted<br />
face, of Lucifer, and his Heh. &nbsp;That&#8217;s a little journey.</p>
<p>The red face paint is<br />
ceremonial, to be akin to Jupiter. Bear that in mind for later, obv.</p>
<p>The big triumph is the<br />
first issue money shot – after 3 pages of very low atmosphere, we<br />
have the sprawl of Rome. Choosing the direction of the march was key<br />
– I gave Andre the best guess route of the triumph, and he chose<br />
his angle. By luck, he would enter via the gate here Lucifer is<br />
dragged out at the end of the issue. The triumph also ends at the<br />
temple of Jupiter, which is yet more fun subtext for those who really<br />
like digging into it.</p>
<p>We tweaked the colouring<br />
on the crowds, to try and get more of the cosmopolitan nature of<br />
Rome. The majority of legionnaires are white, but that&#8217;s because most<br />
were Germanic in this period.
</p>
<p>The triumph was originally<br />
planned for a spread, but I decided I needed another page later in<br />
the comic.</p>
<p>Page 5</p>
<p>Title drop, and a bleak<br />
laugh. The idea of calling a story IMPERIAL PHASE which isn&#8217;t in the<br />
actual Imperial Phase trade came from thinking of Julian Cope having<br />
his single World Shut Your Mouth not on the album World Shut Your<br />
Mouth, an idea he in turn got from some sixties band I haven&#8217;t time<br />
to look up.</p>
<p>The date was tricky to<br />
decide exactly, due to the timeline of real world events I wanted to<br />
get in. Clearly, for full trash-Roman pulp, I&#8217;d have pushed this<br />
story March, so I could Ides of March it, but alas, no dice.</p>
<p>Page 6</p>
<p>Nice atmosphere in the<br />
first panel, in terms of going from the chaos of the Triumph to<br />
something a little more contemplative.</p>
<p>Enter Dionysus/Bacchus.<br />
Flashback colours and&#8230; one of the thoughts of Matt was that the SFX<br />
budget for God Stuff would be lower back here. So the god powers<br />
aren&#8217;t quite as SFX-y as they are in the present day. Not that<br />
there&#8217;s much here, but I&#8217;m reminded by how low-key this is. The<br />
intent here is that he&#8217;s done his god thing on stage and come off&#8230;<br />
but he could just be an actor, which is about as close as WicDiv gets<br />
to a 1:1 thing.</p>
<p>The nature of art in Rome<br />
(or “Rome”) is key here, and talked throughout. Actors were the<br />
underclass. To act was to be disreputable. The “actress as<br />
sexworker” trope arrives in Rome, I believe. I reference Lou Reed<br />
in the panel descriptions, in terms of these being a Walk On The Wild<br />
Side Romans.</p>
<p>Falerian is a type of fine<br />
wine. Mithras is presumably one of the other gods – Scythia being a<br />
place.</p>
<p>The nature of Imperial<br />
Phase has been about women involved with women, which has nagged.<br />
Having the humanising part of the story be a love story between men<br />
felt timely. It was a place we could do it, so we should. Though more<br />
on that later, in terms of the specifics.</p>
<p>There was the obvious<br />
worry of doing it, of course – where Lucifer ends up. Lucifer is<br />
not good representation. I haven&#8217;t seen anyone pick up on that angle.<br />
We spend a lot of time worrying about stuff no-one picks up on, which<br />
is why we spend all that time worrying about it.</p>
<p>The word “play” is, of<br />
course, loaded, as are the name changes. Story about identity, we are<br />
in it.
</p>
<p>Page 7</p>
<p>The best thing about the<br />
specials is definitely getting a chance to write Ananke again. She is<br />
a fun time.</p>
<p>If I had more space, I&#8217;d<br />
have almost certainly done more with Lucifer&#8217;s adventures during the<br />
day. It&#8217;s worth stressing that by this point, I believe Gladiatorial<br />
fights were no longer actually happening in Rome, due to<br />
Christianisation. My research has went straight on from Western Rome<br />
and barged into Byzantine Rome, and the story of the chariot races<br />
there is a delight.</p>
<p></p>
<p>Page 7-8</p>
<p>These scenes are very much<br />
me getting my I, Claudius on. Very limited set, two actors going off<br />
at one another. Of course, all of this will resonate with anyone<br />
who&#8217;s been following the main series.
</p>
<p>Panels 3 and 4 on page 7<br />
are the bit of tight acting I like most from Andre here – it&#8217;s all<br />
about the actions, and the space, with us positioned a little back<br />
from it.</p>
<p>I smile at Lucifer<br />
referencing something that was said of 2014-Lucifer in the first arc.<br />
Ananke has been doing this for a very long time.</p>
<p>A quick buzz through<br />
various other gods&#8217; fates in the first panel on page 8. There&#8217;s a lot<br />
of historical reference packed in there to unpack for those who wish.</p>
<p>The Inanna/Attila The Hun<br />
panel is, I think, the largest panel description in the issue.<br />
Well&#8230; not true. The Rome Triumph one is much longer, but that&#8217;s a<br />
splash. This one included a potted history of a bunch of Hun-related<br />
information for Andre to play with, in terms of deciding the looks,<br />
etc.</p>
<p>It was also the most<br />
discussed panel at the stage of pencils – avoiding objectifying<br />
Inanna here was key.</p>
<p>Attila The Hun died on<br />
(one of his) wedding night in the real life.</p>
<p>The “As I understand”<br />
is pretty key in the captions, as is other distancing effects.<br />
Lucifer would not have been a god when Inanna did this. It is very<br />
early in this pantheon&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>I think this may be a<br />
place to have a word about Pantheon times through history. 455<br />
doesn&#8217;t seem to fit in one of these 90 years, if you follow that<br />
strictly.</p>
<p>The short version is, as<br />
seen in the first scene of WicDiv which ends the 1920s pantheon at<br />
Dec 31<sup>st</sup> 2013 and we start our story about 6 months into<br />
the new Pantheon on January 1<sup>st</sup> 2014, the question of<br />
where the 90 years is measured for has to be (to some degree)<br />
flexible. Gods appear over a period of a year or so in our 2014, and<br />
die at their own rates. You can assume that the “true” length of<br />
a pantheon can wiggle a little – some would be less than a year,<br />
some could theoretically stretch across 4 calendar years. As such,<br />
it&#8217;s hard to predict exactly on which year any given recurrence could<br />
occur – even from the data we have from 1831, 1923 and 2014, we<br />
know that.</p>
<p>I suspect before the end I<br />
may give hard dates for every Pantheon. I suspect, anyway. I know<br />
where it would appear.</p>
<p>Page 9-11</p>
<p>You know, I suspect Page 9<br />
– for an action scene – is one of the most story-beat laden of<br />
the issue, in terms. Lots of great Andre stuff here – the<br />
casual-ness of both the burning and the brutal-ness of the kick. Matt<br />
goes to town on the colours too, the reds taking over. Obviously the<br />
fire is a key thing with Lucifer, and his flame grows and ebbs as we<br />
progress.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some difficult<br />
hard cuts here – page 10 to 11, for example. We just have the<br />
“Ananke leaving” beat there, then moving to Dio and Lucifer in<br />
bed.</p>
<p>There is a tendency when<br />
discussing the ancients to be a bit blasé in terms of writing about<br />
their sexual habits. This normally is based around us mapping our<br />
readings of sexuality onto the past, while erasing their own social<br />
mores. I&#8217;ve ran with some of the information on page 11 before, when<br />
doing THREE, specifically the politics of different sexual roles.<br />
Relevantly, the status elements Lucifer alludes to here – in terms<br />
of being a bottom is always dishonourable. I could ramble at this at<br />
length, but I&#8217;ll spare you.</p>
<p>Lots and lots of stuff<br />
here, in terms of trying to set up thematic elements here, but let&#8217;s<br />
just say none of it would matter at all if Matt and Andre hadn&#8217;t<br />
nailed the last panel.</p>
<p>Page 12-13</p>
<p>Lots of historical bits<br />
and bobs here. Perhaps the implicit question we don&#8217;t answer is “what<br />
happened to the last Emperor?” He was cut to pieces a few days<br />
before this and thrown in the river, because he&#8217;d pissed off the<br />
Vandals enough to have them invade.</p>
<p>You may notice how thin<br />
the senate is populated. That&#8217;s because the majority of the<br />
population of Rome have fucked off to hide. Rome&#8217;s population is<br />
artificially lower during this point in history, which is a thing<br />
which tries to lend a little credulity to the Ananke/Geiseric<br />
cover-up.
</p>
<p>The main tweaks here was<br />
making sure the exact nature of Lucifer&#8217;s slip was tricky. Someone<br />
getting mixed up in the time-line requires making sure the reader<br />
understands the timeline. I half wonder why I went with Crassus<br />
rather than Pompey.</p>
<p>Anyway, let&#8217;s hope that<br />
Lucifer manages to keep on the straight and narrow.</p>
<p>Page 13-14</p>
<p>Well, that escalated<br />
quickly.</p>
<p>When planning the issue,<br />
you start doing maps of time and space, and I rapidly realised with<br />
25 pages, and so many other essential scenes, there was no possible<br />
way to show a slow descent.</p>
<p>The story&#8217;s structure<br />
immediately suggested itself.</p>
<p>While the Triumph was the<br />
image we needed to enter the world, this is the one that will be<br />
remembered. People reference my Crossed work here – which is true,<br />
to some degree, in that it was also about turning flesh into art. I<br />
suspect I was more thinking of Banks, and a certain beat involving a<br />
certain object of furniture. I say, dancing around spoilers.</p>
<p>The influence here which<br />
gets kind of buried is Domitian, who threw the most goth parties of<br />
all time. <a href="http://thesmartset.com/article08310901/">Have a<br />
nose at this here, in terms of Things Emperors Got Up To.</a></p>
<p>Page 15-16</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve already namechecked<br />
Caligula and here comes Nero, the other of the most famous Roman Bad<br />
Emperors. The elements about Nero here were the closest thing the<br />
research unveiled which made me want to reposition the story to a<br />
different period – Nero interacting with the gods would have been<br />
fascinating, for all the reasons described here.</p>
<p>We had a reader question<br />
the direction of Imperial Phase, in that the<br />
insanity-leading-to-murder trope that appeared to be coming and the<br />
inherent ableism in that. It was a usefully timed question, as it<br />
made me dig more sharply into the exact choices we were making in<br />
explaining the idea. This isn&#8217;t about going mad. This is – as<br />
Dionysus puts it – about excess. I&#8217;m thinking of Bowie living off<br />
cocaine and peppers. We lean into it pretty heavily in this issue,<br />
and hopefully it delineates the aim.
</p>
<p>Just looking at my script,<br />
and found the anecdote about the time I threw up a handful of blood<br />
slipped in there. I&#8217;d forgotten that this page was autobiographical.<br />
Comics, eh?</p>
<p>Look at what Matt&#8217;s doing<br />
with the colours here – the whole <i>panel </i>is bloodshot as we<br />
progress.</p>
<p>Page 17-20</p>
<p>In terms of buried<br />
research in the comic, that a hole was knocked in the roof of the<br />
Temple of Jupiter during this sack of Rome is the one which makes me<br />
laugh. Behold! Let team WicDiv present the true story of how the<br />
temple of Jupiter got a dirty great hole in it.</p>
<p>(I also like that this<br />
makes the sack of Rome much more efficient for the Vandals.)</p>
<p>This is an actor making a<br />
soliloquy scene, perhaps obviously, recalling both the stage and the<br />
Passion. While this issue is heavily in the research, it&#8217;s also doing<br />
ahistorical work. Shakespeare&#8217;s fingerprints is all over this, to<br />
state another obvious thing.</p>
<p>The “Emerge like an<br />
Eagle” thing is very much Roman Pagan belief.</p>
<p>I mentioned Nero,<br />
Caligulia and Julius. The other Roman Emperor who is in the mix with<br />
Lucifer was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_(emperor)">Julian<br />
the Apostate </a>who was the last Pagan Roman emperor, and tried to<br />
revive Pagan Rome before dying early. A “What if Julian had lived?”<br />
is a counter-factual history which is always a fun one to swill<br />
around your mouth. He&#8217;s the one we don&#8217;t reference, but much of<br />
Lucifer&#8217;s thought comes from mashing Julian with someone of lower<br />
birth and more melodramatic tendencies.</p>
<p>This is the sequence which<br />
I cut the page from the Triumph earlier to expand. Clearly this could<br />
happen quicker, but we need to let the death sequence come out, in<br />
all its horror. Also, the collapse on the page turn seems essential.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost surprise Et Tu<br />
Jupiter reached the final page. We were always wondering whether it<br />
was too funny. In the end, it was decided it was, but in<br />
juxtaposition with the art, sufficiently bleakly to not break the<br />
mood. Especially before the collapse on the next page, which is very<br />
much human stripped by the divine.</p>
<p>Clearly this plot beat, is<br />
the biggest one for close followers of the book. I suspect at this<br />
point of the story, there would be strong suspicions that the “you<br />
die in two years” isn&#8217;t true. Unless this sequence is deeply<br />
deceptive, it is true. You die in two years, by yourself. We place<br />
the specials pretty carefully, in terms of what they reveal, so this<br />
being half way through Imperial Phase underlines what could await our<br />
cast.</p>
<p>In terms of craft, going<br />
silent for a page after the monologuing seemed key. I mean, Ananke&#8217;s<br />
fundamental disrespect in terms of how she&#8217;s carrying Lucifer says<br />
everything.
</p>
<p>Page 21-25</p>
<p>Out the gate towards the<br />
Tiber. The names listed are famous Romans whose bodies were thrown in<br />
the Tiber so that they could have no honourable end – and in the<br />
case of Marius, that there was no place for his followers to gather.<br />
The man who did that was Sulla, btw. Marius was dead, he dug them up.</p>
<p>The “Pagan burial, but a<br />
shit one” is very much Ananke at peak “I will tell you the truth,<br />
but you really have to pay attention to the details” mode.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s Geiseric!<br />
Looking good. The Vandals have been in Carthage for 20 years, but we<br />
decided to have him be kind of pallid so as not to confuse people.<br />
Stories like THREE were all about the pure-historical aspect and<br />
risked (and often did) lose people by doing things in line with the<br />
best research rather than common belief. WicDiv has a slightly<br />
different set of priorities, especially on secondary aspects like<br />
tanned Vandals.</p>
<p>Heh. Story starts with<br />
butchery of a goat, and ends with butchery of Lucifer. WicDiv is a<br />
very subtle comic.</p>
<p>Sulla&#8217;s an interesting<br />
dude, and I think the use by Ananke here seems pretty fair. The<br />
future she&#8217;s pointing towards never happens – the marriage is<br />
there. Germanic hands ended up ruling what came after the Empire, but<br />
that&#8217;s not really what is going. Of course, Geiseric is also entirely<br />
right in recognising he&#8217;s being manipulated.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re a fun pair,<br />
actually, in terms of the fencing. I kind of realise this is the sort<br />
of conversation which is going to be key in Spangly New Thing, which<br />
makes me excited about writing it again.</p>
<p>I smile at the Vandal<br />
line. People have wondered why I didn&#8217;t do the earlier sack, so I<br />
could have had the goths. Well, it didn&#8217;t really work for the story,<br />
which is about the end of an era. But also it would have been perhaps<br />
too much. I did have a joke take, where Ananke is debating which<br />
Germanic tribe to manipulate into invading Rome. “The Goths again?<br />
No. No More Goths.”
</p>
<p>But 455 isn&#8217;t that kind of<br />
book.</p>
<p>The final image! Lovely,<br />
in its bleak and awful way.</p>
<p>Page 26</p>
<p>City of God being<br />
Augustine&#8217;s book, written primarily in response to the crisis of<br />
faith in the Empire over the 410 sack of Rome by the aforementioned<br />
Goths.</p>
<p>Anyway – thanks for<br />
reading, and thanks for Andre for joining us on this beast. We&#8217;re<br />
back (eek) tomorrow, with Imperial Phase II. Onwards, etc.</p>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team WicDiv (minus Matt) are at C2E2 in chicago this weekend. Come and say hello! We don’t charge for signatures, but if you want more than (say) 5 signing in one go, we ask people to go to the back of a queue to make it fair for everyone. This may change depending on how things are going. We just want to make it a lovely time for everyone.</p>
<p>Our table is O-18.</p>
<p><b>Friday 21st April</b></p>
<p>14:45 &#8211; 15:45 &#8211; Signing at our Table<br />16:00 &#8211; 17:00 &#8211; Image Comics: Contemporary Storytelling Panel (Kieron) &#8211; S404<br />17:15 &#8211; 19:00 &#8211; Signing at our Table<br />20:00 &#8211; 21:00 &#8211; Artcred Panel (Kieron) &#8211; S405B</p>
<p><b>Saturday 22nd April</b></p>
<p>10:00 &#8211; 11:00 &#8211; Signing at our Table<br />11:15 &#8211; 12:15 &#8211; Image Comics: Storytelling Panel (Jamie) &#8211; S405A<br />14:00 &#8211; 16:00 &#8211; Signing at our Table<br />16:30 &#8211; 18:00 &#8211; Signing at our Table</p>
<p><b>Sunday 23rd April</b></p>
<p>10:00 &#8211; 11:00 &#8211; Signing at our Table<br />11:15 &#8211; 12:15 &#8211; Marvel: True Believers Panel (Kieron) &#8211; S401<br />14:30 &#8211; 15:30 &#8211;&nbsp;Masterminds Behind The Wicked + The Divine Panel (Everyone!) &#8211; S402<br />15:45 &#8211; 17:00 &#8211; Signing at our Table</p>
<p><i>(”Masterminds Behind The Wicked + The Divine? Really?” &nbsp;&#8211; Ed)</i></p>
<p>Er&#8230; Imperial Phase?</p>
<p><i>(”You disgust me” &#8211; Ed)</i></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2017 16:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cripes. What a big week. For more details, I direct you to my newsletter which is best for this kind of thing, but in Brief&#8230; The Complete Phonogram. 504 pages comprising all three volumes (the first coloured for the first time), all the eighty-odd previously uncollected B-sides and all in an oversized hardback format. If [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cripes. What a big week. For more details, <a href="http://tinyletter.com/KieronGillen/letters/023-genre-on-fire">I direct you to my newsletter which is best for this kind of thing, but in Brief&#8230;</a></p>
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<p>The Complete Phonogram. 504 pages comprising all three volumes (the first coloured for the first time), all the eighty-odd previously uncollected B-sides and all in an oversized hardback format.</p>
<p>If you want it digitally, you can get Phonogram from <a href="https://www.comixology.co.uk/The-Complete-Phonogram/digital-comic/506850">Comxiology </a>or <a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/phonogram">Image</a>.</p>
<p><img src="https://68.media.tumblr.com/d37bec14e78fb67fb09087972e19d944/tumblr_inline_oob2c4qmWT1r77eon_540.png" alt="image" WIDTH=400/></p>
<p>The end of Imperial Phase II, where there’s a party and lots of things happen. Next month is the 455 special, the month after that is the collection of Imperial Phase Part 1 and we’re back with the next arc in July.</p>
<p>That’s Elsa Charretier’s cover, but Jamie and Matt have done one too.</p>
<p>If you want it digitally, you can get it from <a href="https://www.comixology.co.uk/The-Wicked-The-Divine/comics-series/19339">Comixology </a>or <a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/the-wicked-the-divine">Image</a>.</p>
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<p>End of the first arc, where Aphra continues to make sensible life decisions.</p>
<p>You can also get it <a href="https://www.comixology.co.uk/Star-Wars-Doctor-Aphra-2016/comics-series/82182">digitally</a>, if that’s your thing.</p>
<p></p>
<p><img src="https://68.media.tumblr.com/cdd109b5cfaf361c8a2d3a22f2274cf3/tumblr_inline_oob2ccG5RU1r77eon_540.png" alt="image" WIDTH=400/></p>
<p>And, after some delays, the final issue of Mercury Heat 12 drops. I’ll miss this. <a href="https://www.comixology.co.uk/Mercury-Heat/comics-series/47007">You can get it in shops or digitally.</a></p>
<p>Hope you enjoy them.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>One book out today, being Uber Invasion 3, which is probably the most classically Uber issue I’ve dropped, being primarily focused on a single battle engagement.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Available from your local shop, or <a href="http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.comixology.com%2FUber-Invasion%2Fcomics-series%2F82329&amp;t=NWE1YmJmNmIyZDViMTY1OTc3Y2NhM2MyYTY1YTkxZDI1NzI3YWY4NCxMdlJxd1V3ZA%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3AiM8XaHp-1huDy9bYs606bQ&amp;p=http%3A%2F%2Fkierongillen.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F156355845332%2Fout-today-uber-invasion-2&amp;m=1">Comixology</a>.</p>
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		<title>Writer Notes: The Wicked + the Divine 26</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spoilers, obv. This felt like a big issue to us. I mean, in a literal sense it was a big issue. We normally are 20 pages of art (plus cheats). This is 23 pages of art, due to me completely fucking up and writing a 22 page script extremely early, thinking I&#8217;d go back to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Spoilers,<br />
obv.</p>
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<p>This felt like a big issue to us. I mean, in a literal sense it was a big<br />
issue. We normally are 20 pages of art (plus cheats). This is 23<br />
pages of art, due to me completely fucking up and writing a 22 page<br />
script extremely early, thinking I&#8217;d go back to it and work out a way<br />
to compress it to 20. Except I forgot I had extra work to do on the<br />
script, so didn&#8217;t leave enough time to rework it before Jamie had to<br />
get it. And then Jamie insisted on expanding a sequence by a page,<br />
because he loves you guys, or at least loves the comic.</p>
<p>I<br />
don&#8217;t really think I could have compressed it without hurting the<br />
comic either. I compress the action at the start, and it leaves a<br />
reader cheated. I talked about false drama of cliffhangers last time,<br />
and if you don&#8217;t have at least some manner of satisfying that<br />
promise, it&#8217;s a cheat, and not in an interesting way people would<br />
thank us for. However, at the same time, that&#8217;s not what we&#8217;re really<br />
doing here. Equally, losing stuff from the back of the issue would<br />
move it into the next issue&#8230; and that is <i>also </i>sub-optimum,<br />
for reasons you&#8217;ll see next time.</p>
<p>Put<br />
it like this: Jamie joked “can we split this issue in two?” and I<br />
took it entirely seriously, and started doing the math on making this<br />
a seven issue arc.</p>
<p>But<br />
no.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s<br />
also one change which should be mentioned – we&#8217;ve gone up to $3.99<br />
from $3.50. Why? Image suggested we should. There are very few Image<br />
books that are $3.50 now. The vast majority are $3.99. We&#8217;ve had our<br />
price set at $3.50 ever since 2006, with the exception of Immaterial<br />
Girl. We figured we should listen to our publisher. 50 cents across a<br />
decade seems reasonable, especially in an industry where $3.99 seems<br />
standard.</p>
<p>Anyway,<br />
let&#8217;s do this thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Jamie/Matt&#8217;s<br />
Cover<br />The Norns, and they are kind of core to this issue, so more<br />
of a connection between cover and contents than for most of the<br />
issue. For reasons that become clear this issue, The Norns and Baal<br />
step forward as alternative protagonists for the story structure.<br />
They are key.</p>
<p>There<br />
was considerable EEEK! Over the wearing of masks.</p>
<p>Nicola<br />
Scott&#8217;s Cover</p>
<p>Nicola&#8217;s<br />
wonderful. I&#8217;ve wanted a candid photo cover for most of WicDiv, and<br />
I&#8217;m surprised it&#8217;s only turned up now. It&#8217;s also delineating Sakhmet<br />
and Persephone, which is a key note towards the end of the issue.
</p>
<p>The<br />
Image 25<sup>th</sup> Anniversary Cover</p>
<p>It<br />
should be stressed, this was Eric Stephenson&#8217;s idea.</p>
<p>You<br />
may wonder how we did it.</p>
<p>This<br />
is how we did it.</p>
<figure data-orig-width="854" data-orig-height="1280" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://68.media.tumblr.com/c9181bdb0296ba17293e3d8dd10c2bdd/tumblr_inline_ol65ljoneQ1r77eon_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="854" data-orig-height="1280"/></figure>
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<figure data-orig-width="854" data-orig-height="1280" class="tmblr-full"><img src="https://68.media.tumblr.com/59f3902743608442dfba9d1874a86529/tumblr_inline_ol65licDny1r77eon_540.jpg" alt="image" data-orig-width="854" data-orig-height="1280"/></figure>
<p>In<br />
short: we did it like an episode of Playschool. The lighting being a<br />
lamp, gaffataped to a wall is a particular highpoint.</p>
<p>And<br />
then Katie-west worked her magic.</p>
<p>All<br />
the good jokes on the covers are Jamie&#8217;s, which is very annoying, but<br />
makes me feel better when I laugh at it, as at least I’m not laughing at my own crap.</p>
<p>Page<br />
1</p>
<p>I<br />
love the first panel. I almost put it in the newsletter, but decided<br />
we should save that thrill for context. It&#8217;s very much in the<br />
establishing shot mode, and a promise. Jamie and Matt executing<br />
things like Minervas concussive wind blasts out of the swirling body<br />
is lovely detail too.</p>
<p>I<br />
did have something akin to a NOT AGAIN! As a line of dialogue from<br />
Minerva here, but was obviously killed for breaking tone. See later<br />
in the notes for other thoughts on that whole sequence.</p>
<p>And<br />
by the end of the page, we&#8217;ve changed direction entirely. No, this<br />
isn&#8217;t going to be a straight fight. We have other narrative fish to<br />
fry.</p>
<p>Page<br />
2-3</p>
<p>RISING<br />
ACTION was basically four issues of straight punchy, with a middle<br />
act of woe. We&#8217;re not the sort to do that again, and immediately try<br />
and make this feel different. That first panel where we get a very<br />
human observation of a superhero event. A glance out the window, and<br />
shit is going down out there. There is a lot to try and ground this<br />
as we go on, even as it escalates&#8230;</p>
<p>I<br />
suspect Amaterasu&#8217;s realisation is one of the cruellest lines I&#8217;ve<br />
written for her.</p>
<p>Heh.<br />
Okay – want to hear another example of me messing up? I knew I<br />
needed Amaterasu here, ASAP. But I had also set the scene at night,<br />
so her long-range-teleportation doesn&#8217;t work. This led to a rewrite<br />
to bring in the Woden-designed-arm-piece from Rising Action. And it<br />
helps in other ways – we get the interaction with her mum, which<br />
says a lot about Amaterasu. I do like the idea of Amaterasu having<br />
left this piece of fancy armour lying around on her bedroom floor and<br />
her mum tidied it up.</p>
<p>Jamie<br />
pushed a panel from page 3 onto page 2, which is obviously a smarter<br />
call, letting him keep a steady angle on the three teleportation<br />
panels, which nails the effect. The breaking up dialogue to show that<br />
things are instantaneous is obviously one of our tropes.</p>
<p>The<br />
lettering on this sequence involved some messing around with layers<br />
to get work, and to make the fade in operate. Nice work, Clayton.<br />
This is also an area where my suspicion of sound-effects was entirely<br />
over-ruled.</p>
<p>Page<br />
4</p>
<p>And<br />
hulllllo Baal&#8217;s family.</p>
<p>This<br />
strikes me as a very WicDiv take on a reveal. It could have worked<br />
with just a reveal of his family – we&#8217;d want to see that. But to<br />
reveal that, and juxtapose it to the creeping monsters, so mixing the<br />
excitement of meeting new people with the fear of losing them? That&#8217;s<br />
WicDiv, innit? Sigh.</p>
<p>This<br />
was also the page which went through the most colouring notes.<br />
Getting the exact level of reveal on the Great Darkness creatures, of<br />
how much they&#8217;re in the light or not took quite a few takes. We&#8217;re<br />
very happy.</p>
<p>Page<br />
5</p>
<p>We<br />
are totally not rated PG.</p>
<p>Page<br />
6-7</p>
<p>If<br />
you follow me on twitter, you&#8217;d see me doing a crowdsurfed suggestion<br />
for a line of dialogue for someone to say when they&#8217;re pulling<br />
someone out of the way. That was this page, and Persephone pulling<br />
the tentacles. I decided that any dialogue was too much. It even<br />
makes it jokey (clearly not the intent) or slows down the action.<br />
Even a “NO!” felt too much for me.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re<br />
heading more towards action here, and doing a beautifully rendered<br />
fight-scene in someone&#8217;s garden. This feels a very us thing to do.</p>
<p>I<br />
believe I described the Amaterasu laser beam shot in the mode of a<br />
Quietly moment, that sense of a still moment in time. Jamie and<br />
Quitely don&#8217;t have a huge amount of overlap as artists for me –<br />
Quitely is all about the 3D space of a shot, which Jamie simply isn&#8217;t<br />
– but this captures something really furious. The colouring from<br />
Matt on the heat vision is particularly A+.</p>
<p>The<br />
push and pull of Amaterasu is very much her thing. Her bravery is an<br />
open question, as is her capacity for anger and violence. From<br />
Persey-Poo to incinerating her foes in a couple of pages doesn&#8217;t<br />
exactly make me feel comfortable about her. So nice work, J ane M.</p>
<p>Also<br />
Good Job Baal&#8217;s Brother on spotting the baddies.</p>
<p>Page<br />
8</p>
<p>Jamie<br />
and my debate on exactly how to (er) Biggify the Darkness creature<br />
was quite a thing. Of course, the creatures are granular. We can&#8217;t<br />
just make the grains bigger.</p>
<p>We<br />
were a little worried that Persephone firing red thorns being a<br />
little confusing, when red is Amaterasu&#8217;s signature. We may end up<br />
tweaking them green in the trade. Not that we&#8217;ve seen anyone complain<br />
about it.</p>
<p>I<br />
think Amaterasu&#8217;s living-Darkseid-stary-beam is my favourite regular<br />
power signature in this book.</p>
<p>Lots<br />
of careful unpacking on what is said on the phone, to ensure clear<br />
storytelling. That we never actually show the Great Darkness Creature<br />
back at the shard defeated is an unsusual choice&#8230; but we need to<br />
make sure that people know it HAS been defeated and Minerva rescued.<br />
Equally, we come back to the nature of cliffhangers we mentioned<br />
earlier. We&#8217;ve promised a fight against the Great Darkness, but are<br />
much more interested in introducing Baal&#8217;s family, showing<br />
Amaterasu&#8217;s complicity in this, Persephone&#8217;s powers, etc. So you DO<br />
get a great darkness fight, just not the one you were expecting,<br />
which is hopefully okay as the one you were expecting is a lot less<br />
interesting than this. Hopefully.</p>
<p>The<br />
Phone is a Woden design, as referenced later in the issue. Baal can&#8217;t<br />
just go down any phone. You&#8217;ll see one on his living room table in<br />
last issue.</p>
<p>Page<br />
9</p>
<p>This<br />
is the sort of page I&#8217;d have ended up cutting if I tried to reduce<br />
the issue&#8230; and why would I want to do a thing like this?</p>
<p>There<br />
was a discussion of whether ALL I DO IS WIN was too much. It<br />
eventually worked around to obviously it&#8217;s too much, but WicDiv is<br />
too much, so that&#8217;s all fine.</p>
<p>This<br />
is a lovely set of colouring from Matt here. The white and purple is<br />
just a delight.</p>
<p>Notice<br />
tiny Scarab-esque thing shooting off in the top right panel. In a<br />
moving medium the Great Darkness&#8217; nature would be a lot cleaner, but<br />
we do stuff like this.</p>
<p>Page<br />
10</p>
<p>And<br />
we&#8217;re back to grounded colours. Just turn this page and see how<br />
things change. Isn&#8217;t that a delight? Matt Wilson For Eisner, etc.</p>
<p>Yes,<br />
Baal&#8217;s name is Valentine Campbell. Obviously we chewed it over a<br />
bunch. Valentine has so many connotations seemed to be useful.</p>
<p>I<br />
find myself thinking that in the first half of the issue Persephone<br />
is almost back to volume 2 Laura. She&#8217;s primarily an observer, one<br />
who is taken places and sees thing. That does tend to make<br />
Amaterasu&#8217;s final line particularly pointed.</p>
<p>Lovely<br />
pair of expressions in that final panel.</p>
<p>Page<br />
11</p>
<p>The<br />
title for this was originally ONCE MORE, leading directly into Baal&#8217;s<br />
first line, and hitting the beat again. That changed when I realised<br />
I wanted to do the whole sequence as a nine panel grid.</p>
<p>This<br />
is the first time all the surviving gods have been in a scene<br />
together, and it&#8217;s a circular table. Luckily, when I mapped the gods<br />
to the seats, the ones who are most important to interact are<br />
actually sitting beside each other – imagine how difficult it would<br />
have been if Baal and the Norns <i>weren&#8217;t</i> seated by each other.</p>
<p>(We&#8217;d<br />
have done something else, clearly, and had the Norns standing like<br />
Persephone is.)</p>
<p>So<br />
I was trying to work out how to panel all this political-meeting<br />
style chat, and hit the bit where the gods vote. And I realised that<br />
as there were nine gods voting, it&#8217;d work really well as a nine-panel<br />
grid. That rapidly expanded to&#8230; wait, especially with Baal/Norns<br />
sitting by each other (so minimising the need for wide shots) I could<br />
do the whole thing in a nine panel grid. That allows you to cut<br />
between individual characters speaking, and not have to worry about<br />
the interactions for most of it.
</p>
<p>That<br />
unlocked the way to best dramatically sell the Persepone&#8217;s final<br />
line. If we build a structure, we can get an aesthetic effect by<br />
demolishing it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s<br />
not the first time we&#8217;ve done a Nine Panel Grid in our work, but its&#8217;<br />
certainly the longest. And if we&#8217;re doing Nine Panel, it brings it<br />
back to Watchmen, which means that we should highlight that. Hence,<br />
the title altering to THE WATCH, which obviously has all kinds of<br />
connotations.</p>
<p>I<br />
go through this to primarily show how much fun this job can be. Stuff<br />
builds on top of other stuff, and you eventually end up with<br />
something much more full than the original idea. For me, pretty much<br />
nothing is as good as writing is when it&#8217;s going right.</p>
<p>Which<br />
is the sort of thing I&#8217;ll get depressed about if I think too much<br />
about it, so let&#8217;s not for now, eh?</p>
<p>Page<br />
12</p>
<p>If<br />
we&#8217;re going to do the nine panel thing, we need to establish the<br />
scene properly. Two panels, built on a nine-panel grid<br />
superstructure.</p>
<p>Obviously<br />
this was a heavy described panel, as we had to cram in all the<br />
character beats for all the people. Baph&#8217;s slouch is particularly on<br />
point. The coffee that Dio is hanging onto for dear life another. The<br />
Norns not getting a seat.</p>
<p>One<br />
thing I particularly like about this page? It forefronts the visual<br />
element of the table with twelve gods around which people may not<br />
have noted. This, on a page after a big title saying THE WATCH is<br />
more obviously a clock face.</p>
<p>Yes,<br />
Watchmen was a big influence on me as a writer. Did I mention it? I<br />
may have mentioned it.</p>
<p>Page<br />
13</p>
<p>Oh<br />
man – look at Matt&#8217;s use of shadow here. Baal in the darkness on<br />
last page was great, but passing from the shadow to light in the<br />
first panel.
</p>
<p>When<br />
I first saw Jamie had put Minerva in plaid I worried for him. “Er&#8230;<br />
Jamie. Drawing Plaid is a lot of work.” He noted that as there was<br />
only a few panels with her in, it&#8217;ll be fine. Jamie is not entirely<br />
foolish.</p>
<p>The<br />
page does show one of the things about the nine panel – as in, you<br />
get more beats&#8230; but you have to be pretty particular to choose<br />
those beats. 9 panel is good for a writer, for certain things (most<br />
important: timing), but you can do less with any one panel. On the<br />
plus side your beats are more deliberate, more delineated.</p>
<p>In<br />
this case, showing Persephone&#8217;s is relatively “expensive” in page<br />
space, but clearly necessary – Baal is saying the stuff he&#8217;s never<br />
said before. We need to see her response.</p>
<p>And<br />
yeah&#8230; Baal finally lays out his main motivation. I suspect for<br />
close readers or re-readers, things make a lot more sense.</p>
<p>The<br />
seventh panel is one of four two shots I can see in this whole<br />
sequence, to get an idea of how sparsely we tried to use them. Maybe<br />
5 if you include the one with Woden asking “Does she get a vote.”<br />
Though I say this having only skimmed quickly, and am sure I must<br />
have missed one..</p>
<p></p>
<p>The<br />
non sequitur panel of the 8<sup>th</sup> is one of my fave things you<br />
can do with a rigid panel like this. Drop a silent panel and break it<br />
up.</p>
<p>Page<br />
14-15-16</p>
<p>Honestly,<br />
this kind of shit is stuff I love. Just lock characters in a room and<br />
let them argue. Political dramas. Legal dramas. It&#8217;s just a<br />
fascinating writing challenge – who speaks next and why. How to<br />
delineate the information, how to lampshade information is<br />
questionable, etc, etc.</p>
<p>I<br />
mean, in some ways this sort of debate is pure exposition – <i>here<br />
are some statements –</i> but the fact that each is immediately<br />
interrogated turns it into something else.
</p>
<p>Basically,<br />
if left to my own devices, I&#8217;d have just done a 40 issue series in<br />
the style of 12 ANGRY MEN called 12 ANGRY GODS.</p>
<p>In<br />
terms of my outline, I knew that the pantheon would have a schism at<br />
this point. Until Brexit happened, I didn&#8217;t realise that it would be<br />
by something as clear and true as a simple democratic vote.</p>
<p>The<br />
hand on Cass&#8217; shoulders is the sort of thing I&#8217;d have only done in a<br />
nine panel grid.
</p>
<p>Yes,<br />
Baphomet, there was a time for jokes, and it was in the first arc.</p>
<p>PAGE<br />
17</p>
<p>This<br />
issue, for reasons which we&#8217;ll get to shortly, had some consultants&#8217;<br />
eyes on. That bit was fine. The thing which was tweaked then, and<br />
tweaked time and time over is trying to delineate the sides. The<br />
first draft simply hadn&#8217;t sufficiently. Hell, the second or third<br />
lettering tweaks didn&#8217;t do the trick completely. At least from the<br />
comments we&#8217;ve seen, no-one seems lost, so the effort seems worth it.</p>
<p>The<br />
problem is that each member of the debate wants to phrase their<br />
position in the best way possible and their enemies in the worst way,<br />
which actually leaves it hard to say what&#8217;s actually go on. This led<br />
to Baal in the final panel actually bringing it together – the<br />
PRIORTISE THE GREAT DARKNESS vs STUDY is the key thing. ANARCHY had<br />
to be introduced explicitly by cass to describe someone else&#8217;s<br />
position as a label before it could be used here too.</p>
<p>In<br />
terms of minor fact drops? One of the things people always ask is<br />
what&#8217;s going on with the skulls. Here we just let people know they&#8217;re<br />
ornaments.</p>
<p>In<br />
terms of the nine panel grid, I think the single hardest decision was<br />
letting go of showing the Norn&#8217;s response to Sakhmet&#8217;s threat. Alas,<br />
everything else is more important.</p>
<p>The<br />
second one would be Baal doing something like counting people around<br />
the room, to ensure that the reader knows that Baal thinks he&#8217;s won.<br />
In the end, we highlight that later, and with the ellipsis &nbsp;in the<br />
eighth panel. And, of course, as always a Jamie McKelvie expression<br />
goes a long way.</p>
<p>Er&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m writing too much about this stuff, but I hope it&#8217;s useful for<br />
people who think about comic craft. And to double-triple stress, as<br />
always in these notes, I really am just telling the surface level<br />
storytelling basics.
</p>
<p>Page<br />
18</p>
<p>And<br />
the vote page. As said earlier, was where the 9 panel grid came as<br />
possible.</p>
<p>These<br />
lines were especially tweaked to sell the positions and why.</p>
<p>And<br />
Dionysus, for the first time in the scene, speaks. Obviously a key<br />
issue for Dio, where we move him into an explicit new position in the<br />
plot.</p>
<p>Page<br />
19</p>
<p>Man,<br />
I don&#8217;t even want to unpack this page.</p>
<p>But<br />
I can easily imagine how both Baal and Cass are feeling in the last<br />
panel. Uh&#8230; wait&#8230;</p>
<p>Page<br />
20</p>
<p>Formalism<br />
doing its formalism thing.</p>
<p>This<br />
was written in a nine panel grid, but with descriptions of which<br />
panels are covered by Persephone&#8217;s hair.</p>
<p>Page<br />
21</p>
<p>And<br />
then we go into our quick cuts to move to the new status quo, the<br />
nine panel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s<br />
very much our aesthetic that we show the break-up but don&#8217;t show the<br />
getting-together.</p>
<p>I<br />
suspect it&#8217;s the sort of scene I&#8217;d like to talk about further down<br />
the line, but not now.</p>
<p>The<br />
gold prize for Jamie here are panels 3 and 4. For me, that&#8217;s comic,<br />
and that&#8217;s why I love comics.
</p>
<p>Well,<br />
one of the reasons, anyway.</p>
<p>Page<br />
22-23</p>
<p>Cass<br />
continues to be a gift for those who like reaction images.</p>
<p>The<br />
strangest rewrite of the issue for me was the “What&#8217;s the saying<br />
about stopped clocks?” line, which was originally a lot more<br />
suggestive and less explicit. But 2 of the first 4 people to read it<br />
didn&#8217;t get it in its more suggestive form, which meant that I was<br />
always going to dial back for clarity&#8217;s sake.</p>
<p>So,<br />
yes, this is a Cass/Dio/Woden team-up for the Study side. Splitting<br />
your cast into smaller narrative units is a good tactic in a team<br />
book (I sort of learned it properly when I was writing my<br />
9-core-person Uncanny X-men team). You also see it all over the place<br />
– if you listen to Community notes, you&#8217;ll see how they split their<br />
cast into different arrangements and see how the characters interact.<br />
Having three characters who, on the surface, appear to have very<br />
different priorties come together under a larger banner is an<br />
interesting one.</p>
<p>In<br />
terms of the explicitly delineating at least part of the sexualities,<br />
this has been considered for a while. Let&#8217;s start with Cassandra.</p>
<p>Early<br />
on in WicDiv, I saw a random comment of someone annoyed with<br />
something I&#8217;d said. Specifically me saying something akin to “I<br />
sometimes need room to discover a character&#8217;s sexuality.” Her<br />
response – and one I completely get – was annoyance with<br />
suggesting people don&#8217;t know their own sexualities. The “No, I know<br />
I&#8217;m Bi – don&#8217;t say it&#8217;s a phase. Don&#8217;t say it&#8217;s something I&#8217;m<br />
discovering.”</p>
<p>As<br />
I said, I get it, but that&#8217;s not what I meant. I meant <i>characters</i>.<br />
Writing often feels like excavation. Not always, but sometimes, and<br />
especially in a book like WicDiv. You get to know them by writing<br />
them, sometimes in actually fundamental ways, ways which were always<br />
there but now come to the surface. For all my planning in WicDiv,<br />
it&#8217;s also a living creature.</p>
<p>So<br />
when starting off, I always had a few feelings about Cassandra. There<br />
was the possibility that she was actually asexual. It would fit with<br />
her for a few ways, and the evidence for a reading of that was<br />
certainly there. However, I rapidly realised it caused huge problems<br />
inside the narrative in terms of what it was saying about asexuality.<br />
One of Cassandra&#8217;s primary traits is that she doesn&#8217;t experience the<br />
performances. If she&#8217;s asexual, that implies that it&#8217;s linked to that<br />
– especially when the performances have been linked so strongly to<br />
sex at various places in the narrative. I thought that&#8217;d be true even<br />
if we had another asexual character in the primary cast to show the<br />
contrary. I continued writing her and thinking, and having an<br />
awareness of the various potentials I saw in her. I didn&#8217;t have to<br />
make a choice yet.</p>
<p>The<br />
flashpoint was issue 20, where I realised that it just was untenable<br />
for her to be asexual. Because if performances are linked in the<br />
readers&#8217; mind to sex, that eventually Cassandra <i>does </i>response<br />
to a performance is a sign that asexuals just haven&#8217;t met the right<br />
person yet.</p>
<p>No.<br />
I&#8217;m not writing a book that suggests that.</p>
<p>There<br />
is also the real world thing that trans women are viewed through a<br />
hypersexual lens or an asexual one, which is certainly one feeds into<br />
the final dialogue on the page.</p>
<p>So<br />
everything re-arranged and solidified in the other way I saw them –<br />
a stable lesbian polyamarous triad. I saw with Imperial Phase ahead,<br />
that felt more and more necessary. WicDiv is&#8230; not a book where<br />
relationships are healthy. Every single romantic relationship in the<br />
book is openly dysfunctional. Relevantly, there is a lot of people<br />
doing polyamory very badly. It comes to a point where it looks like<br />
the book saying this behaviour is bad rather than this specific<br />
practise is bad. The Norns would be the counter-argument. In this<br />
issue, we show them in an private, loving supportive relationship<br />
that&#8217;s arguably more unconventional than any other in the book.
</p>
<p>We<br />
don&#8217;t get to see any of the sex, of course, as it&#8217;s none of our<br />
business and they&#8217;re not there for the readers&#8217; pleasure. But with<br />
them in our story, it shows there&#8217;s nothing implicitly wrong with<br />
kink, or polyamory or anything else&#8230; as long as you don&#8217;t act like<br />
sentient burning trashcans.</p>
<p>That<br />
was the thinking. Some of it, anyway.</p>
<p>Oh<br />
– on the note of discovery, I only realised that she&#8217;d lean<br />
submissive as I wrote the page. It was a surprise to me as well, but<br />
seemed to align with everything else and make a lot of things make<br />
more sense.</p>
<p>In<br />
Dio&#8217;s case, it was there as a possibility even as I first wrote him<br />
into the bible. I see myself writing around it in my notes, saying<br />
that I just didn&#8217;t feel like sex was a big drive for him in the way<br />
it was for so much of the cast. The problem eventually came for the<br />
place to introduce it, and how, and in the same action where we move<br />
Dio towards the centre stage (or at least primary supporting<br />
characters) seemed to be it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve<br />
had a lot of supportive messages about both of these, so thank you.<br />
And thanks again to our consultants, who we will continue to high<br />
five at the slightest encouragement.</p>
<p>Page<br />
24-25</p>
<p>This<br />
was originally written as a page, but Jamie insisted on MOTORBIKE<br />
DRAMA!</p>
<p>And<br />
how could we resist that?</p>
<p>I<br />
actually wrote a first draft of this, and wondered if it was too<br />
much, and then did a completely different end scene based on<br />
Persephone leaving the Shard. Arguing it over with Chrissy, we came<br />
down strongly on this. It&#8217;s WicDiv. We crash motorbikes into walls<br />
for the sake of it.</p>
<p>Worth<br />
noting: this is a return to a non-cliffhanger ending structure. The<br />
“read the next issue” comes from the whole of the issue rather<br />
than a specific beat. This is about leaving it with a mood.</p>
<p>Favourite<br />
thing in colour – the circle of light on the wall, a half second<br />
before impact.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll<br />
give you one for free: Persephone is on the phone to one of her<br />
people, probably an agent. I could have put an explicit call in that<br />
to the dialogue, but it was too crass and fake, and the specific<br />
identity doesn&#8217;t really matter that much. It&#8217;s just someone who&#8217;s<br />
clearly going to get her a new bike.</p>
<p>Also:<br />
the main reason why I wondered whether this scene wasn&#8217;t too much, is<br />
because it is literally the lyrics to Icona Pop&#8217;s I LOVE IT.</p>
<p>Page<br />
26</p>
<p>“Hey,<br />
C, is referencing Kesha too much on the interstitial? It sort of is a<br />
trashy pop take on Watchmen&#8217;s encroaching apocalypse feel.”</p>
<p>“No,<br />
that sounds like exactly the sort of thing you do.”</p>
<p>“Cool.”</p>
<p>See<br />
you next month, where we reach the penultimate part of IMPERIAL PHASE<br />
(I). It&#8217;s just being put to bed, and we like it a lot.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
for reading.</p>
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		<title>Out Today: The Wicked + the Divine 26 and Doctor Aphra 4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Gillen]]></dc:creator>
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<p>A big issue, this, both in terms of events and pages &#8211; it’s 3 pages longer than normal due to (er) me writing it longer and not realising until it was too late, and then Jamie adding an extra page for extra motorbike. Something for everyone in this, I think. Also HOT NINE PANEL GRIDS.</p>
<p>Oh &#8211; there’s also two other covers for this, one very beautiful by Nicola Scott and the other one (er) less so.</p>
<p>You can get it from your local comic shop, or digitally either <a href="http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.comixology.co.uk%2FThe-Wicked-The-Divine%2Fcomics-series%2F19339&amp;t=MTA5ZmE3MDVmYWQ4ZmNiODQ4YWUyZTg4YjljNjQ2N2Q5MTAyMjcxNyxFa1h2VlNiOQ%3D%3D">from Comixology</a> or <a href="http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fimagecomics.com%2Fcomics%2Fseries%2Fthe-wicked-the-divine&amp;t=ODViYzRhOWI2MTk0NThhYTFjNDNjZThiMzhkODhhZWZkNDAyNjkxZSxFa1h2VlNiOQ%3D%3D">direct from Image</a>. <a href="http://kierongillen.tumblr.com/post/156950169382/wicdiv-preview-for-the-wicked-the-divine-26">You can read the preview here.</a></p>
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<p>As Beck once sang in the 90s, where’s it AT-AT? It’s here, in the fourth issue of Aphra thinking things through properly and not accidentally making everything worse constantly.</p>
<p>It’s available from your local comic shop or <a href="http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.comixology.co.uk%2FStar-Wars-Doctor-Aphra-2016%2Fcomics-series%2F82182&amp;t=NDRhNDI3NjdhYWI1Njg4MjNkZjVkNjY5OTE2MTlkZTFhZDBhZGM0YSxFcEJObGh1Tw%3D%3D&amp;b=t%3AiM8XaHp-1huDy9bYs606bQ&amp;p=http%3A%2F%2Fkierongillen.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F156042468487%2Fout-today-doctor-aphra-3&amp;m=1">digitally.</a> <a href="http://kierongillen.tumblr.com/post/156714695757/adventures-in-poor-taste-and-large-watermarks-have">Preview here.&nbsp;</a></p>
<p>Lots more about this week’s comic and what we’ve been up to in the Newsletter. <a href="http://tinyletter.com/kierongillen">Do read and sign up.&nbsp;</a></p>
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		<title>Out Today: Uber Invasion #2</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Gillen]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote this in the newsletter about this one&#8230; It&#8217;s an especially horrible issue, but one I&#8217;m intensely proud of. It&#8217;s one of those rare books that I think may actually be unique for its genre, and the logical end point of the line of thinking that&#8217;s run through all my work in superheroes. Namely, [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>I wrote this in <a href="http://tinyletter.com/KieronGillen/">the newsletter </a>about this one&#8230;</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s an especially horrible issue, but one I&#8217;m intensely proud of. It&#8217;s one of those rare books that I think may actually be unique for its genre, and the logical end point of the line of thinking that&#8217;s run through all my work in superheroes. Namely, a disinterest in the people knocking over the buildings in favour of those who have just had a building knocked onto them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also one which you could read entirely by itself, if you wish to dabble in these dark waters. </p>
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<p>&#8230;and that sounds about right.</p>
<p>Available from your local shop, or <a href="https://www.comixology.com/Uber-Invasion/comics-series/82329">Comixology</a>. <a href="http://www.avatarpress.com/2017/01/uber-invasion-2-by-kieron-gillen-and-daniel-gete-preview/">There’s a preview here.</a></p>
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		<title>Out Today: Doctor Aphra #3</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieron Gillen]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Third part of Aphra goes happily into action adventure temple exploring mode. Highlights include: not keeping up on current affairs. needy droids! Wookiees, winning! Archaeology! Stuff! Things! It’s available from your local comic shop or digitally. Preview here.]]></description>
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<p>Third part of Aphra goes happily into action adventure temple exploring mode. Highlights include: not keeping up on current affairs. needy droids! Wookiees, winning! Archaeology! Stuff! Things!</p>
<p>It’s available from your local comic shop or <a href="https://www.comixology.co.uk/Star-Wars-Doctor-Aphra-2016/comics-series/82182">digitally.</a> <a href="http://kierongillen.tumblr.com/post/156003120667/lesbiansorceress-star-wars-doctor-aphra-3">Preview here.</a> </p>
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		<title>Writer Notes: The Wicked + the Divine 25</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spoilers, obv. Let&#8217;s just dive in, eh? Jamie&#8217;s Cover One of the interesting things about comics is the solicitation process. As such, a sub-section of the fandom will be aware of a cover before it comes out (or the month before it comes out if it&#8217;s a comic which puts a NEXT MONTH cover in [&#8230;]]]></description>
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Spoilers, obv.<br />
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<p>Let&#8217;s just dive in, eh?</p>
<p>Jamie&#8217;s Cover<br />
One of the interesting things about comics is the solicitation process. As such, a sub-section of the fandom will be aware of a cover before it comes out (or the month before it comes out if it&#8217;s a comic which puts a NEXT MONTH cover in the back). So for the hardcore readers, this will actually be the first image they see of Minerva&#8217;s new look.</p>
<p>So yeah, good debut, Mini.</p>
<p>This arc we&#8217;re clearly not doing quite what we did on previous ones – the link from the cover star to the interior one is much more tangential than the first two years. Let&#8217;s not make it too easy.</p>
<p>Emi Lenox&#8217;s Cover<br />
Emi is one of our favourite people in the whole world, let alone comics. Her co-written with Jeff Lemire (and drawn by her) of Plutona was one of our favourite minis of last year too. I believe Emi wanted to do another god, and then read the latest issues and I WANT TO DO PERSEPHONE!</p>
<p>Which has been a running theme this arc, actually. We&#8217;ve had to encourage other gods for the B-sides later on. Persephone, you&#8217;re more than a superstar, but you&#8217;re not our only coverstyle.</p>
<p>Very much a continuation of our Wide Variety Of Styles On Cover theme. This is about art.</p>
<p>Page 1<br />
Compared to many of the issues this arc, this is a less demanding one for the artist than usual. I don&#8217;t do it unless I have to, and I knew there&#8217;s horrible stuff ahead. That said, the world fell apart during the production of this issue, and we lost a week. So it was hard anyway. Comics!</p>
<p>Anyway – we start slow. Three panels. Establish location, establish situation, establish key character. This is aimed towards being reserved, clear and efficient. </p>
<p>First swearing of Cass in the issue. And not the last.</p>
<p>The cliffhanger last time is an unusual one for us, as I believe I said (I totally don&#8217;t re-read these notes after writing them. When we come to edit them for the hardback, it&#8217;s always a thrill. Hey C! Sorry about all the typos.) It&#8217;s a mid-action cliff-hanger. Normally we&#8217;re in a “reveal of important new information” or “completion of surprising action” place when we cliffhanger, and half the time we don&#8217;t even do that. This is a “half way through action” cliffhanger.  As such, it&#8217;s about “How does this action complete?”</p>
<p>Structurally speaking, I tend to think that these tend to risk creating false drama. If you don&#8217;t go through with an action in any meaningful way, that&#8217;s what it is – a raising of expectations and a quashing of them, which – to use the technical writing term – is total bullshit. If you do go through with it&#8230; well, why didn&#8217;t you do it to end the previous issue? Then you have a “completion of surprising action” cliffhanger, which is much more honest.</p>
<p>So the main way to resolve them, for me, is that what DOES happen has to be at least as interesting as what didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s where we try to go, as Persephone is totally going to torture Woden.</p>
<p>(In my original synopsis the previous episode ended with Woden&#8217;s reveal, with Persephone raising her fingers at the start of this. I made this call when writing both issues.)</p>
<p>That was a lot of words. </p>
<p>In other notes: I would really like Persephone&#8217;s trousers here.</p>
<p>Page 2<br />
Anyway – this whole sequence is about Jamie again. The push and pull of Persephone&#8217;s reactions here is key.<br />
Obviously the most important expression closes the page – we lose the skull eyes and have a push and pull of responses which caused me to pretty much instantly tear up. There&#8217;s lots of ways to read this, and none of them good.</p>
<p>Page 3<br />
Cassandra, voice of reason once more. “Go on a bender” makes me smile too.<br />
Steady angle on the hands puts an unusual pressure on things – steady shots, in profile are something which tend to be most used in comedy. But it&#8217;s all about the hands and the emotion. Also compare and contrast to the one over the page&#8230;</p>
<p>Page 4<br />
Oh no, Persephone!<br />
And this is very much about the scene as comedy. Breaking a scene into individual moments – decompressing, to use a much maligned and mis-used term – is all about increasing the effect. It is paramount in comedy.<br />
Page 5<br />
From the Hobbit. Bilbo and Smeagol. You can probably guess who&#8217;s Smeagol in this metaphor, except not.<br />
Page 6-7<br />
The first page was written in a standard format – once more, using the very basic structure of establish/scene/character beat set up of the first page – and then moved into Marvel Method for the rest of the sequence. It&#8217;s the first “real” performance sequence since issue 20s, so has been a while.<br />
This sequence brought to mind the movie adaptation of UNDER THE SKIN when I was writing it, and that&#8217;s not an inaccurate comparison, I suspect.<br />
What&#8217;s to look at here is Matt&#8217;s purples, which are just lovely.<br />
And black.<br />
All that black.<br />
And&#8230;<br />
Page 8-11<br />
EVEN MORE BLACK! Doing try printing scans of our pages at home, as your printer will hate us.<br />
Obviously reminiscent of issue 3&#8217;s performance sequence, and I love what they did with the tumbling sequence. Persephone&#8217;s voice, caption-box less, dropped on the backdrop too.<br />
At script, there was originally a couple of lines on the second spread. It was questioned by C, in terms of “He&#8217;s a long way away – I don&#8217;t think we can hear two beats like that” which is right, but also got me thinking about time operating in comics. The second you add dialogue to a page, it becomes a period of time. When you remove all dialogue, it gets a timeless quality. As in, you have no idea how long it&#8217;s been like this. Seconds? Hours? Years? We don&#8217;t know.<br />
And that certainly adds to the effect of the sequence.<br />
Page 12<br />
Heh. I&#8217;m reading this as we put issue 26 to bed, having just passed Jamie the script for 27 earlier today. They are&#8230; somewhat denser. It&#8217;s going to be a while until we have a three panel sequence like this.<br />
Page 13-16<br />
Oh, hello again, eight-panel grid structure, old friend. We&#8217;ll be seeing you again soon.<br />
The dumbest “I should have realised this in the script” mistake was that Cass didn&#8217;t have a line in the first panel of this. That adds time to the sequence, and a repsonse to the appearance of Cass.<br />
I remember the thinking on this for me. Okay, Persephone has dragged Woden away. What does Cass do? Try and free the Valkyries. Like, obviously.<br />
Anyway – what we get instead of Woden being killed is this. Giving up the Valkyries. Dragged to be essentially Cass&#8217; helper. Working the level of reluctance and ego back and forth is key.<br />
The Harry Potter line was probably the most closely debated line in the issue. C and I basically had a bunch of conversations trying to unpack the meaning, what Woden was trying to say about it exactly, what Woden thought he was saying, etc.<br />
Whole sequence clearly important as it&#8217;s stating a selection of the various mysteries in the book, signalling to the reader than them not knowing answers is not accidental, and making the characte&#8217;s direction clear. “Direction” is tricky in Imperial Phase, which is kind of the point. Showing that we do have an idea what we&#8217;re doing is probably a necessary tell.<br />
The steady angle on the last two panels – once more, for comedy – makes me smile. The “Enigmatic Wankery” made think of a friend. I asked C who she thought would most likely actually say “Enigmatic Wankery.” She answered the same friend. So let&#8217;s conclusively say “Enigmatic Wankery” is the line most likely to be said by author and punmeister supreme, Si Spurrier.<br />
Page 15 – which, without saying it, where Cass implicitly agrees to working with Woden – is where I realised how good Woden and Cass are to have in the same room, in terms of pushing information around.<br />
(Perhaps too much – Persephone is definitely an observer in these four pages)<br />
Page 17<br />
Text conversations are fun, just as how much you can get into it, as a piece of character work. That Cass hasn&#8217;t updated her phone to change Laura&#8217;s name ever since meeting her is certainly one thing, but also says a lot about various other bits and pieces.<br />
Three golden expressions on the page., You can trust Jamie McKelvie to deliver on such thing – the specific annoyance and the somewhat enigmatic sadness of Persephone. And the&#8230; peevishly frustrated nature of Cass.<br />
Also, easy panels! See, I&#8217;m not just a monster.<br />
(Says the man who&#8217;s just sent Jamie a script with a whole middle section sub-titled “ FUCKING HORRIBLE BEYOND ALL HUMAN BELIEF”)<br />
Page 18<br />
The quote&#8217;s from Anna Karenina by Tolstoy. “All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”<br />
Page 19<br />
Ananke&#8217;s speech from issue 5 of WicDiv, being broadcast. Fun juxtaposition. And god, that&#8217;s a hard mask to draw.<br />
And honestly, this page – which you should recognise in its structure – so upset me when I thought of it, I knew it had to go in. The more I think about it, the worse it gets.<br />
The copy of Pantheon  monthly on the table especially makes me grin. I think that was Jamie&#8217;s idea. Or maybe Katie?<br />
Page 20-21<br />
Persephone and Baal have been going out for three issues now. This sequence is the first time we&#8217;ve seen them in the same panel. Plus first time to see Baal in his guardian role. As such, wanting to live with them, albeit briefly, felt necessary. For a book that&#8217;s often about death, we have to show life.<br />
(The lightning-to-make-toast is the apex of that. The Mundane + The Divine may be an alternate title for WicDiv, or at least our aesthetic and interests.)<br />
Also, let Minerva – ahem – continue to stretch her wings. Last time we got the human intelligence side of it. Now we get a more analytical mind.<br />
And yes, Baal self-correcting himself is cute. You&#8217;re trying, Baal.<br />
Everyone&#8217;s hair game is on point here. Minerva&#8217;s fringe (aka Bangs, but we&#8217;re in the UK, guys) is wonderful, but the winner is Persephone&#8217;s braids.<br />
On a really minor craft note? It&#8217;s standard to say you end the page on a cliffhanger – an unanswered question, an reason to turn the page. The “Was Ananke right?” is a pretty good example of that, I think. Even mentioning Ananke changes the tone. The question is pointed, both in story and not. And, most of all, who&#8217;s saying it?<br />
Page 22<br />
Oh, it&#8217;s Amaterasu. Hi, Amaterasu.<br />
This is very much catching balls we threw into the air, earlier. In terms of Amaterasu&#8217;s actions, this is how the cast see it. Or at least, this part of the cast.<br />
The third panel of this page makes me optimistic we&#8217;re going to get away with an issue down the line. That&#8217;s a lot of wonderful acting inside a tiny panel from Jamie.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t sure if “Li&#8217;l flower” was too much, but decided, no, it was the right amount of much.<br />
Page 23-24<br />
Yeah, this is a swing back to action-mode comics earlier than I suspect people were expecting it.<br />
Kept really basic, leaving room for Jamie and Matt to do their thing. The tendrils whirling around, use of space, etc. Also, let&#8217;s nod towards Matt&#8217;s hot pink in the last panel.<br />
Page 25<br />
And hello what we can only presume is the Darkness, Great, which I probably better not say more about until next month. It was certainly a design conversation, but probably best to work in there. Clearly we wanted something interesting.<br />
Yeah, that&#8217;s enough for now, I think. We&#8217;ll talk the nature of Cliffhangers again next time.<br />
Page 26<br />
I had a string of names for this one, before ending up here. I liked most of them enough to make me suspect they&#8217;ll end up being used elsewhere.<br />
Right – issue has just headed off to Image, so we&#8217;ll see you in a month.<br />
Thanks for reading.</p>
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