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		<title>Comment on My first useful program, ever by King_Lion</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2008/05/my-first-useful-program-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-2081</link>
		<dc:creator>King_Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would ask the same question as Ferand did - though I am on Win XP.  And, I am not as good as to write this script myself. Is it possible a windows script to be suggested? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would ask the same question as Ferand did &#8211; though I am on Win XP.  And, I am not as good as to write this script myself. Is it possible a windows script to be suggested? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My first useful program, ever by quodlibetor</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2008/05/my-first-useful-program-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator>quodlibetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stroller:
I considered using cron, but I had a lot of trouble setting things to run correctly while I was doing this. However, doing what you describe (starting at the bash command prompt):
&lt;pre lang="bash"&gt;
$ crontab -e  # this pulls up the crontab file editor to which you append:

*/4 * * * * ls  /media/drive-you-want-alive

&lt;/pre&gt;

The &lt;code&gt;*/4&lt;/code&gt; is equivalent to &lt;code&gt;0-59/4&lt;/code&gt;.

A couple advantage that I'd say my solution has is that it doesn't require you to go futzing around with the crontab file, which on some systems you won't have access to, and also, if the root of that drive is huge doing an &lt;code lang="bash"&gt;ls&lt;/code&gt; on it can be a really big deal, way more of a deal than just touching an empty file. If that's the case you could basically do hdactive in cron:
&lt;pre lang="bash"&gt;
*/4 * * * * touch /media/drive-you-want-alive/.hdactive
&lt;/pre&gt;

And since hdactive requires significantly more setup and is therefore way more confusing than crontab, if you've got access to it, it's probably the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stroller:<br />
I considered using cron, but I had a lot of trouble setting things to run correctly while I was doing this. However, doing what you describe (starting at the bash command prompt):</p>

<div class="wp_syntax"><div class="code"><pre class="bash" style="font-family:monospace;">$ crontab <span style="color: #660033;">-e</span>  <span style="color: #666666; font-style: italic;"># this pulls up the crontab file editor to which you append:</span>
&nbsp;
<span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*/</span><span style="color: #000000;">4</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*</span> <span style="color: #c20cb9; font-weight: bold;">ls</span>  <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">/</span>media<span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">/</span>drive-you-want-alive</pre></div></div>

<p>The <code>*/4</code> is equivalent to <code>0-59/4</code>.</p>
<p>A couple advantage that I&#8217;d say my solution has is that it doesn&#8217;t require you to go futzing around with the crontab file, which on some systems you won&#8217;t have access to, and also, if the root of that drive is huge doing an <code lang="bash">ls</code> on it can be a really big deal, way more of a deal than just touching an empty file. If that&#8217;s the case you could basically do hdactive in cron:</p>

<div class="wp_syntax"><div class="code"><pre class="bash" style="font-family:monospace;"><span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*/</span><span style="color: #000000;">4</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">*</span> <span style="color: #c20cb9; font-weight: bold;">touch</span> <span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">/</span>media<span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">/</span>drive-you-want-alive<span style="color: #000000; font-weight: bold;">/</span>.hdactive</pre></div></div>

<p>And since hdactive requires significantly more setup and is therefore way more confusing than crontab, if you&#8217;ve got access to it, it&#8217;s probably the way to go.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My first useful program, ever by Stroller</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2008/05/my-first-useful-program-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator>Stroller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone just linked to you from HardForum - before they did so I was considering this question and my first solution was nearly the same as yours.

I don't have this problem myself, but doesn't `ls` keep the drive spun up? I don't like creating unnecessary files on the hard-drive, but if you don't then - if you use `touch` - you have to change the modification date of some other file on the drive. So `ls` seems preferable, unless the o/s is caching the directory listing.

Also, I wouldn't tend to run the script manually - that way you have to remember to do so every time you reboot your computer. I would omit the `sleep` so that it runs to completion &amp; doesn't hang around in the background. Then just add it to crontab so that it is automagically run every 4 minutes; I believe this is the crontab syntax:
0-59/4 * * * *   ./hdactive.sh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone just linked to you from HardForum &#8211; before they did so I was considering this question and my first solution was nearly the same as yours.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have this problem myself, but doesn&#8217;t `ls` keep the drive spun up? I don&#8217;t like creating unnecessary files on the hard-drive, but if you don&#8217;t then &#8211; if you use `touch` &#8211; you have to change the modification date of some other file on the drive. So `ls` seems preferable, unless the o/s is caching the directory listing.</p>
<p>Also, I wouldn&#8217;t tend to run the script manually &#8211; that way you have to remember to do so every time you reboot your computer. I would omit the `sleep` so that it runs to completion &amp; doesn&#8217;t hang around in the background. Then just add it to crontab so that it is automagically run every 4 minutes; I believe this is the crontab syntax:<br />
0-59/4 * * * *   ./hdactive.sh</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bible Explicitly Forbids Christmas Trees by quodlibetor</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2007/12/the-bible-explicitly-forbids-christmas-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>quodlibetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>honestly i don't speak hebrew well enough anymore to trust my translation over the one that's had hundreds of scholars pour over it and try to make it mean what it originally meant. Of course, there is enough variation in the different bibles that i'm not really sure which one i should trust, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>honestly i don&#8217;t speak hebrew well enough anymore to trust my translation over the one that&#8217;s had hundreds of scholars pour over it and try to make it mean what it originally meant. Of course, there is enough variation in the different bibles that i&#8217;m not really sure which one i should trust, either.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bible Explicitly Forbids Christmas Trees by tpott56</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2007/12/the-bible-explicitly-forbids-christmas-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator>tpott56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>try looking at it in the Hebrew Bible.  After all that is the orginal and would be pretty close to the truth.  Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus, when Paul saw that the pagens were leaving the relegion he brought all these pagen rituals into the relegion and blessed him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try looking at it in the Hebrew Bible.  After all that is the orginal and would be pretty close to the truth.  Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus, when Paul saw that the pagens were leaving the relegion he brought all these pagen rituals into the relegion and blessed him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A youtube comment about man as a social construction by sandra-ku</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2008/01/a-youtube-comment-about-man-as-a-social-construction/comment-page-1/#comment-2071</link>
		<dc:creator>sandra-ku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot for this post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for this post</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bible Explicitly Forbids Christmas Trees by quodlibetor</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2007/12/the-bible-explicitly-forbids-christmas-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-2069</link>
		<dc:creator>quodlibetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it depends on which version of the bible you're looking at, for example the king james version says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
 2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

&lt;strong&gt; 3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.&lt;/strong&gt;

 4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

which is pretty clearly just saying that it is woodsmen who cut trees out of the forest. But then if you look at the new international version you get:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
 2 This is what the LORD says:
       "Do not learn the ways of the nations
       or be terrified by signs in the sky,
       though the nations are terrified by them.

 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless;
       they cut a tree out of the forest,
       &lt;strong&gt;and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.&lt;/strong&gt;

 4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
       they fasten it with hammer and nails
       so it will not totter.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

sounds pretty extremely different, although there is no mention of idols in either version, so it's not that different. Certainly I don't think that it is clear that it's talking about idols instead of the pagan ritual that christmas is incontrovertibly derived from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on which version of the bible you&#8217;re looking at, for example the king james version says:</p>
<blockquote><p>
 2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.</p>
<p><strong> 3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.</strong></p>
<p> 4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
</p></blockquote>
<p>which is pretty clearly just saying that it is woodsmen who cut trees out of the forest. But then if you look at the new international version you get:</p>
<blockquote><p>
 2 This is what the LORD says:<br />
       &#8220;Do not learn the ways of the nations<br />
       or be terrified by signs in the sky,<br />
       though the nations are terrified by them.</p>
<p> 3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless;<br />
       they cut a tree out of the forest,<br />
       <strong>and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.</strong></p>
<p> 4 They adorn it with silver and gold;<br />
       they fasten it with hammer and nails<br />
       so it will not totter.
</p></blockquote>
<p>sounds pretty extremely different, although there is no mention of idols in either version, so it&#8217;s not that different. Certainly I don&#8217;t think that it is clear that it&#8217;s talking about idols instead of the pagan ritual that christmas is incontrovertibly derived from.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seriously? Am i seriously posting about a penguin? by wintervssummer</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2007/05/seriously-am-i-seriously-posting-about-a-penguin/comment-page-1/#comment-2068</link>
		<dc:creator>wintervssummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much love summer :) 
Someone very much loves winter :(
I Wish to know whom more :)
For what you love winter? 
For what you love summer? Let's argue :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much love summer :)<br />
Someone very much loves winter :(<br />
I Wish to know whom more :)<br />
For what you love winter?<br />
For what you love summer? Let&#8217;s argue :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bible Explicitly Forbids Christmas Trees by Michael</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2007/12/the-bible-explicitly-forbids-christmas-trees/comment-page-1/#comment-2067</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to fill in the missing phrases that you took the liberty of deleting.   In particular, look at verse three.  An idol is nothing but a tree chopped down...THEN SHAPED BY A WOODSMAN"S AX.   This refers to carved wooden shapes.  Not to the tree. 
Please don't delete words from the Bible to serve your own means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to fill in the missing phrases that you took the liberty of deleting.   In particular, look at verse three.  An idol is nothing but a tree chopped down&#8230;THEN SHAPED BY A WOODSMAN&#8221;S AX.   This refers to carved wooden shapes.  Not to the tree.<br />
Please don&#8217;t delete words from the Bible to serve your own means.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A youtube comment about man as a social construction by quodlibetor</title>
		<link>http://blog.quodlibetor.com/2008/01/a-youtube-comment-about-man-as-a-social-construction/comment-page-1/#comment-2064</link>
		<dc:creator>quodlibetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? what? Spam?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? what? Spam?</p>
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