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		<title>Post Your Flickr Photos to Twitter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Open Web]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Flickr]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[OAuth]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Twitter]]></category>

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Many people post photos to Twitter via services like TwitPic. Unfortunately, most of those services require the user&#8217;s Twitter username and password. And while most users know that it&#8217;s not a good idea to give passwords to third party services, many do it anyway, just for convenience sake.
Today photo sharing and hosting site Flickr announced [...]]]></description>
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<p>Many people post photos to <a href="http://twitter.com/" title="Twitter"><strong>Twitter</strong></a> via services like <a href="http://twitpic.com/" title="TwitPic"><strong>TwitPic</strong></a>. Unfortunately, most of those services require the user&#8217;s Twitter username and password. And while most users know that it&#8217;s not a good idea to give passwords to third party services, many do it anyway, just for convenience sake.</p>
<p>Today photo sharing and hosting site <a href="http://www.flickr.com/" title="Flickr"><strong>Flickr</strong></a> announced a beta implementation which allows users to <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/flickrtwitterbeta/" title="Flickr Twitter Beta">post photos from Flickr to Twitter</a>. The service is easy to set up if you already have a Flickr account.</p>
<ol>
<li>Authorize Flickr to post to Twitter via <a href="http://oauth.net/" title="OAuth"><strong>OAuth</strong></a></li>
<li>Add <em>2twitter</em> to your Flickr email and save it to your mobile phone (or remember it). It should look like this: <em>yourflickremail2twitter@photos.flickr.com</em></li>
<li>Take a picture, open your mobile phone&#8217;s email client, add a subject line &#8211; this will be your tweet&#8217;s text &#8211; and send to Flickr</li>
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<p>It&#8217;s especially great to see Flickr supporting OAuth because FlickrAuth as part of  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/services/api/" title="Flickr API">Flickr&#8217;s <abbr title="Application Programming Interface">API</abbr></a> was certaily a blueprint for creating OAuth.</p>
<p>Well done!</p>
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		<title>Facebook Is a Relying Party But…</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[OpenID]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Admittedly, this post is not really news. Those of you who read tech blogs regularly have probably already forgotten about it, albeit the news are not even one month old. Anyway, I was hesitant to write about Facebook&#8217;s support for OpenID as a Relying Party for one single reason: I didn&#8217;t get it back then [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly, this post is not really news. Those of you who read tech blogs regularly have probably already forgotten about it, albeit the news are not even one month old. Anyway, I was hesitant to write about <strong>Facebook&#8217;s</strong> support for <strong>OpenID</strong> as a <a href="http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&#038;story=246" title="Facebook Supports OpenID as a Relying Party">Relying Party</a> for one single reason: I didn&#8217;t get it back then and I&#8217;m not even sure I fully understand it now.</p>
<p>Facebook users can associate one or more OpenIDs to their Facebook account. Just head over to the account settings and have a look at <em>Linked Accounts</em>.</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/linked-accounts.jpg" alt="Linked Accounts" title="Linked Accounts" width="350" height="257" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1118" /></p>
<h3>Adding a Google Account</h3>
<p>Most people will probably use their Google account as an OpenID. That&#8217;s fine and works smoothly. Facebook makes use of the <a href="http://wiki.openid.net/f/openid_ui_extension_draft01.html" title="OpenID UI Extension Draft">OpenID User Interface Extension</a> specification which is still a draft, though. Users don&#8217;t have to experience the redirect game of OpenID, instead everything works in a single popup.</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/google-accounts.jpg" alt="Google Accounts" title="Google Accounts" width="350" height="288" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1119" /></p>
<p>Clicking <em>Allow</em> and the Google OpenID is associated with Facebook. Simple, really. However I don&#8217;t like that users can&#8217;t decide if they want their contacts imported or not. All or nothing, that&#8217;s not really user friendly. Also what happened to the contacts from my Google account? Where are they on Facebook? I don&#8217;t see them there. Or is there some matching between existing Facebook users and my address book happening behind the scenes?</p>
<h3>Adding Another OpenID</h3>
<p>While Google is an obvious choice for many users, I also tried to add my own OpenID, <em>notsorelevant.com</em>. Currently, it&#8217;s delegated to <a href="http://www.myopenid.com/" title="MyOpenID">MyOpenID</a> which is supported by Facebook. Actually, that association worked as well. But much to my surprise Facebook is not storing <em>notsorelevant.com</em> as my OpenID but the MyOpenID one. That&#8217;s different from all Relying Parties I know. What if I change my mind and delegate to another supported provider? That doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/linked-openids.jpg" alt="Linked OpenIDs" title="Linked OpenIDs" width="350" height="96" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1122" /></p>
<h3>Automatic Login</h3>
<p>Well, two OpenIDs are linked to my Facebook account now and according to the Facebook announcement I&#8217;m supposed to be logged in to Facebook automatically if I&#8217;m logged in to my OpenID Provider already.</p>
<p>This login method is possible due to a feature of the OpenID specification called <em>checkid_immediate</em>, which has to be supported by the OpenID Provider. Basically, this means that the Relying Party requests the OpenID Provider not to interact with the user but to send a reply that authentication was successful directly to the Relying Party. Hopefully, I got that right and didn&#8217;t risk my neck with careless talk here. Apparently, <em>checkid_immediate</em> is not supported by all providers, though. Anyone know if there is a way to find out?</p>
<p>OK, this was some technical explanation but did it work? Well, at first it didn&#8217;t. I was logged in to both Google and MyOpenID, logged out of Facebook, closed the browser tab, opened another one, typed in the Facebook <abbr title="Uniform Resource Locator">URL</abbr> but nothing happened. This was exactly the reason I didn&#8217;t write about this topic before.</p>
<p>By now it works, though. Well, it actually depends on the provider. If I remove Google from the linked accounts it&#8217;s not possible to log in automatically. Remember, MyOpenID is the only linked account left. Oddly, MyOpenID get requests from Facebook, though, and also seems to authenticate me but nothing happens. Below is a screenshot of the MyOpenID log.</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/recent-activity-log.jpg" alt="Recent Activity Log" title="Recent Activity Log" width="350" height="74" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1124" /></p>
<p>I&#8217;m clueless what is wrong here. Is it MyOpenID or is it Facebook? If I associate my Google OpenID again, automatic login works.</p>
<p>According to Facebook it should be possible to register a new Facebook account with a Gmail address only (= with a Google OpenID) but I don&#8217;t see any hints on the Facebook start page, though. Anyone tried that already?</p>
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		<title>MySpaceID Plugin for WordPress not for Everyone</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
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On Friday MySpace announced a MySpaceID WordPress plugin. The plugin allows users to comment on self-hosted WordPress blogs with their MySpace credentials and also share the blog on their MySpace page. Of course, this sounds a lot like Facebook Connect. However it&#8217;s  nice to see a similar product based on open standards like OpenID [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/myspaceid1.jpg" alt="MySpaceID" title="MySpaceID" width="170" height="38" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1107" /></p>
<p>On Friday <a href="http://www.myspace.com/" title="MySpace"><strong>MySpace</strong></a> <a href="http://developer.myspace.com/Community/blogs/devteam/archive/2009/06/05/myspaceid-wordpress-plugin-announced-at-wordcamp-sf-2009.aspx" title="MySpaceID WordPress Plugin Announced">announced</a> a <a href="http://developer.myspace.com/myspaceid/" title="MySpaceID"><strong>MySpaceID</strong></a> WordPress plugin. The plugin allows users to comment on self-hosted WordPress blogs with their MySpace credentials and also share the blog on their MySpace page. Of course, this sounds a lot like Facebook Connect. However it&#8217;s  nice to see a similar product based on open standards like <strong>OpenID</strong> and <strong>OAuth</strong>.</p>
<h3>Difficult to Implement</h3>
<p>Usually, WordPress plugins are quite easy to implement: uploading the plugin to the blog, activating it, and sometimes doing some settings. Ready. The MySpaceID plugin is more difficult, though.</p>
<p>First, blog authors need a MySpace account which I have. So that&#8217;s no problem. Second, authors have to <a href="http://wiki.developer.myspace.com/index.php?title=How_to_Set_Up_a_New_Application_for_OpenID" title="Setting Up a MySpaceID App">set up a MySpaceID application</a>. They will be provided an OAuth Consumer Key and an OAuth Consumer Secret which have to be added in the settings of the plugin.</p>
<p>If you thought that&#8217;s all, you&#8217;re wrong. Authors also need to install the <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/openid/" title="OpenID Plugin for WordPress">OpenID</a> and <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/xrds-simple/" title="XRDS-Simple Plugin">XRDS-Simple</a> plugins for WordPress which are installed on my blog anyway (read all about setting up the MySpaceID plugin on the <a href="http://developerwiki.myspace.com/index.php?title=MySpaceID_WordPress_Plug-in_Setup" title="MySpace Developer Wiki">MySpaceID developer wiki</a>).</p>
<p>I had all this set up, however, it didn&#8217;t work for me. I tried to comment with my MySpace credentials on my blog. The first steps worked as expected: clicking the MySpaceID button, a popup was shown (see below) and I was forwarded back to my blog. Though instead of being logged in, I saw my 404 page. I am not sure what went wrong, probably something wrong with the callback <abbr title="Uniform Resource Locator">URL</abbr>.</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/myspaceid-login.jpg" alt="MySpaceID Login" title="MySpaceID Login" width="300" height="193" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1109" /></p>
<p>Also the plugin somehow interferred with the OpenID plugin, although that one is required. In the comment box the OpenID plugin shows some text indicating that the <abbr title="Uniform Resource Locator">URL</abbr> field is OpenID enabled. With the MySpaceID plugin installed that text was not shown anymore. Not a good idea.</p>
<p>So the MySpaceID plugin is certainly a good idea but it is not designed for ordinary blog authors like me, I guess. But maybe I just didn&#8217;t get it. Hm.</p>
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		<title>About Losing a Supporter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
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In February 2008 I happily joined the OpenID Foundation (OIDF). For the first time it was possible for individuals to join the OIDF and I was certainly among the first to join. While the annual membership fee of $100 was a little high, I thought it was only natural for me to join the foundation [...]]]></description>
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<p>In February 2008 I happily joined the <a href="http://openid.net/" title="OpenID Foundation"><strong>OpenID Foundation</strong></a> (OIDF). For the first time it was possible for individuals to join the <abbr title="OpenID Foundation">OIDF</abbr> and I was certainly among the first to join. While the annual membership fee of $100 was a little high, I thought it was only natural for me to join the foundation and support something that I believe in. This blog and <a href="http://spreadopenid.org/" title="Spread OpenID">Spread OpenID</a> are document of that.</p>
<p>By the end of last year the membership fee for individuals was lowered to $25/year. So I was surprised when I got notified by PayPal in February 2009 that $100 were transferred to the <abbr title="OpenID Foundation">OIDF</abbr> for another year of membership, starting April 1 2009. I was a little confused since I wasn&#8217;t aware that it was a subscription model, that was probably my fault, and that I was charged $100 instead of $25.</p>
<p>So first I cancelled the subscription &#8211; the $100 for period April 2009 to March 2010 were paid, though &#8211; and got in touch with <a href="http://davidrecordon.com/" title="David Recordon">David Recordon</a> and <a href="http://kveton.com/blog/" title="Scott Kveton">Scott Kveton</a> who are both board members of the <abbr title="OpenID Foundation">OIDF</abbr>. Obviously, something was wrong with the subscription model and I wanted to make sure this didn&#8217;t happen to other members as well. Also I wanted to work out a way that I only paid $25 as well. Both forwarded my email to Don Thibeau, who was appointed the <a href="http://openid.net/2009/02/20/introducing-don-thibeau-the-openid-foundations-new-executive-director/" title="Don Thibeau New Executive Director of the OIDF">executive director</a> of the <abbr title="OpenID Foundation">OIDF</abbr> in February.</p>
<p>Until March 21 I didn&#8217;t hear from Don so I got back in touch with him and asked about the matter. I got only a short reply, two short sentences without salutation or complimentary close (hey, he&#8217;s probably busy or that&#8217;s some cultural difference), that he was working on the issue with Marisa Kihlthau (of <a href="http://www.inventures.com/" title="Inventures">Inventures</a>). Marisa got a copy of his reply as well.</p>
<p>Since I didn&#8217;t get another information until May 2 I emailed Don again. Well, something happened in between: the end of my membership status changed from April 1 to July 1. Don&#8217;t ask me why, though. As you can guess, I was rather frustrated by the time and I wrote to Don that I didn&#8217;t care about the <abbr title="OpenID Foundation">OIDF</abbr> anymore and that he should keep the $100 for whatever period of time my membership was good for.</p>
<p>Once again he replied that he was sorry and copied the email to Marisa. He wrote another email and asked if he could do anything else for me. I negated. Marisa also got in touch, explaining that the <abbr title="OpenID Foundation">OIDF</abbr> was under new management (wow, that&#8217;s news in May 2009 <img src='http://notsorelevant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and that they were sorting the membership database, hoping things to be solved by the end of May. I should get in touch with her if I had any more questions.</p>
<p>Until today nothing happened. No way will I get back in touch with anyone about the matter. I don&#8217;t care anymore. However I want to make the story public because I think it is a bad example of customer service. I will no longer support the <abbr title="OpenID Foundation">OIDF</abbr> as it is unprofessional and won&#8217;t accomplish much if all issues are dealt with the same way.</p>
<p>I tried to support OpenID in many ways in the past and still think it is a great concept. But why should I waste more time, energy, and money?</p>
<p>Annoyed, frustrated, disappointed!</p>
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		<title>The Facebook Day of Openness</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
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Yesterday Facebook made some significant announcements regarding the open web. They will make Facebook more open and users and developers can interact with the social network in greater depth than before.
Leveraging the News Feed
First, Facebook announced its Open Stream API which allows developers to build applications that interact with and make use of Facebook&#8217;s news [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yesterday <a href="http://www.facebook.com" title="Facebook">Facebook</a> made some significant announcements regarding the open web. They will make Facebook more open and users and developers can interact with the social network in greater depth than before.</p>
<h3>Leveraging the News Feed</h3>
<p>First, <a href="http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&#038;story=225" title="Facebook Open Stream API">Facebook announced its <strong>Open Stream <abbr title="Application Programming Interface">API</abbr></strong></a> which allows developers to build applications that interact with and make use of Facebook&#8217;s news feed. Part of this <abbr title="Application Programming Interface">API</abbr> is the <strong><a href="http://activitystrea.ms/" title="Activity Streams Standard">Activity Streams</a></strong> standard, which MySpace is also using for MySpaceID. However, if I got things right, the Activity Streams support is read-only, the read-write part is Facebook&#8217;s own <abbr title="Application Programming Interface">API</abbr>. Don&#8217;t quote me on that part, though.</p>
<p>Anyway, Facebook also published a <a href="http://static.ak.fbcdn.net/fbair/Facebook_Desktop_for_AIR.zip" title="Facebook Desktop Demo Application">demo application</a>, so you can test the new <abbr title="Application Programming Interface">API</abbr> right on your desktop (Adobe <abbr title="Adobe Integrated Runtime ">AIR</abbr> is required).</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/facebook-desktop-news.jpg" alt="Facebook Desktop News" title="Facebook Desktop News" width="377" height="457" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1078" /></p>
<p>I guess, it will only be a matter of time until we see more applications by third parties leveraging Facebook&#8217;s news feed.</p>
<h3>Facebook&#8217;s OpenID Support</h3>
<p>When <a href="http://notsorelevant.com/2009-02-06/facebook-is-on-the-board-and-now/" title="Facebook Joins OpenID Foundation">Facebook joined the OpenID Foundation</a> in February, it was unclear how the company would support <strong><a href="http://openid.net/" title="OpenID">OpenID</a></strong>. Yesterday it <a href="http://www.insidefacebook.com/2009/04/27/facebook-announces-users-will-soon-be-able-to-login-to-facebook-with-an-openid/" title="Facebook Will Become an OpenID Relying Party">announced that it will become a Relying Party</a>.</p>
<p>The interesting part of the announcement is, that Facebook will auto-detect the OpenID Provider if users are logged into it already before coming to Facebook. This will be a great improvement for OpenID in terms of usability and user experience (<a href="http://spreadopenid.org/2009/04/28/facebook-will-become-a-relying-party/" title="Spread OpenID">see also my post on Spread OpenID</a>).</p>
<h3>Facebook and Plaxo</h3>
<p>Well, this is not an <a href="http://blog.plaxo.com/archives/2009/04/post_2.html" title="Plaxo Adds Facebook Connect">announcement</a> by Facebook but by <strong><a href="http://www.plaxo.com/" title="Plaxo">Plaxo</a></strong>. Anyway, Plaxo integrated <strong>Facebook Connect</strong> in quite an interesting way. Users can now add their friends from Facebook on Plaxo without re-friending them again. This could be a blueprint for other sites as well because it is absolutely annoying re-friending people again and again.</p>
<p>Also it&#8217;s possible now to automatically update users&#8217; Facebook status when they update their status on Plaxo and vice versa.</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/plaxo-facebook-connect.jpg" alt="Plaxo Facebook Connect" title="Plaxo Facebook Connect" width="469" height="345" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1082" /></p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/plaxo-facebook-settings.jpg" alt="Plaxo Facebook Settings" title="Plaxo Facebook Settings" width="469" height="246" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1083" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We want the web to be open, we want it to be social. We want exchange of data from one site to another. We want our contacts and friends around on most or even all sites. We don&#8217;t want to log in with another username and password because we have too many already anyway. We [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We want the web to be open, we want it to be social. We want exchange of data from one site to another. We want our contacts and friends around on most or even all sites. We don&#8217;t want to log in with another username and password because we have too many already anyway. We use our real names, we publish photos of ourselves, we even have our addresses, email addresses, phone numbers, and dates of birth online. Maybe not on all sites, but I am sure I find that data for everyone of my web-savvy friends. We do all of this for different reasons: building a reputation, branding, big egos, or we are just too enamored by the possibilities of this new web.</p>
<h3>And Ordinary People?</h3>
<p>Though do our co-workers, friends, families, and other people want the same? Do you know how they are using the internet? Go and ask them.</p>
<p>Once I explained OpenID to a co-worker. He told me that he didn&#8217;t like any single sign-on system. His example was Deutsche Telekom where different services are accessible with a single password. Well, I&#8217;m not quite sure how it works and which services are affected because I&#8217;m not a Deutsche Telekom customer but I guess, it&#8217;s similar to Google where users have access to Gmail, Google Reader, and other Google properties with the same username and password. Anyway, he thought that single sign-on, even within the same company, was not acceptable. Also he thought it was a very bad idea that any webservice, e.g. Google Profiles, an OpenID provider,&#8230;, would store many personal information like addresses, date of birth and much more. He was horrified by the idea that this information was transferrable to other sites, that complete address books could be exchanged.</p>
<p>Other people I talked to shared similar sentiments. Basically, they feel rather uncomfortable with publishing personal information on the web. Also many of them are getting unwanted promotional mails and phone calls already. So they fear their data could be sold again. Are these just cultural differences to North American people? Don&#8217;t they get it? Or don&#8217;t we have ordinary people in mind when talking about the open web?</p>
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		<title>Authentication Popups</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Signing in to third party websites has become easier and more user friendly over the last couple of months. The examples below obviously share a common design approach: a popup window that even looks very similar across sites. Even authentication with OpenID will look similar soon. This has become obvious at the last OpenID User [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Signing in to third party websites has become easier and more user friendly over the last couple of months. The examples below obviously share a common design approach: a popup window that even looks very similar across sites. Even authentication with OpenID will look similar soon. This has become obvious at the last <a href="http://notsorelevant.com/2009-02-11/openid-user-experience-tackled/" title="Coverage of UX Summit at Facebook">OpenID User Experience summit</a> at Facebook (see recommendations for <a href="http://wiki.openid.net/Details-of-UX-Best-Practices-for-OPs" title="Best Practices for OpenID Providers">OpenID Providers</a> and <a href="http://wiki.openid.net/Details-of-UX-Best-Practices-for-RPs" title="Best Practices for Relying Parties">Relying Parties</a>).</p>
<p>Facebook was pioneering popup style authentication with <strong><a href="http://developers.facebook.com/connect.php" title="Facebook Connect">Facebook Connect</a></strong> and also set design standards:</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/facebook-connect.jpg" alt="Facebook Connect" title="Facebook Connect" width="466" height="360" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1028" /></p>
<p>MySpace followed with <strong><a href="http://developer.myspace.com/myspaceid/" title="MySpaceID">MySpaceID</a></strong>:</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/myspaceid.jpg" alt="MySpaceID" title="MySpaceID" width="466" height="308" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1034" /></p>
<p>And now we have <abbr title="America Online">AOL</abbr>&#8217;s <strong><a href="http://socialthing.com/forwebsites/" title="Socialthing for Websites">Socialthing for Websites</a></strong> which went live this week. Socialthing for Websites is based on <a href="http://dev.aol.com/api/openauth" title="OpenAuth API"><abbr title="America Online">AOL</abbr>&#8217;s OpenAuth <abbr title="Application Programming Interface">API</abbr></a>.</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/socialthing-for-websites.jpg" alt="Socialthing for Websites" title="Socialthing for Websites" width="466" height="462" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1037" /></p>
<p>The benefits of those approaches are obvious. Users can easily recognize those windows and the authentication process becomes more intuitive for them. Authentication happens in one window, no distracting and often confusing redirects between sites anymore.</p>
<p>I am sure, also content providers will benefit from easier authentication as it has become easier for users to join sites, interact with other visitors and even their friends there.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post doesn&#8217;t fit the usual content of this blog but I think the application definitely deserves a mention here. Anyway, I am talking about a new microblogging client I came across yesterday: Nambu. Yeah, another client in an already crowded market. Though Nambu is a little different to other clients because it is a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post doesn&#8217;t fit the usual content of this blog but I think the application definitely deserves a mention here. Anyway, I am talking about a new microblogging client I came across yesterday: <strong><a href="http://www.nambu.com/" title="Nambu">Nambu</a></strong>. Yeah, another client in an already crowded market. Though Nambu is a little different to other clients because it is a real Mac <abbr title="Operating System">OS</abbr> X application while most other clients are cross platform ones, thanks to Adobe <abbr title="Adobe Integrated Runtime">AIR</abbr>.</p>
<p>Currently, Nambu only supports Twitter (multiple accounts) but forthcoming releases will also support Identi.ca, FriendFeed, and Ping.fm. At least those services are already part of the settings menu.</p>
<p>Well, here are some screenshots, so you&#8217;ll get a better idea of what Nambu looks like:</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/combined-view.jpg" alt="Combined View" title="Combined View" width="455" height="549" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-982" /></p>
<p>This is the standard view of Nambu. Clean and slick interface without much distraction. However the next view is currently my favourite one, the sidebar view:</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/sidebar-view.jpg" alt="Sidebar View" title="Sidebar View" width="500" height="519" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-986" /></p>
<p>I have added some descriptions, so hopefully they make sense. <img src='http://notsorelevant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
As you can see tr.im (<abbr title="Uniform Resource Locator">URL</abbr> shortener) and pic.im (image upload) are integrated, groups are available, and even sent and received links are collected. If you click on hashtags a new search will be created automatically and if you click a member&#8217;s name you can view their profile in a separate window. From there you can follow them, see their tweets and followers.</p>
<p>If you are using TweetDeck and are already accustomed to its multi column view, well, Nambu has it as well:</p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/multi-column-view-1.jpg" alt="Multi Column View" title="Multi Column View" width="500" height="219" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-989" /></p>
<p>I will test Nambu for a few more days. Maybe it will even replace TweetDeck. Although still in beta, it looks very promising already.</p>
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		<title>Once Again: Wrong OpenID/Facebook Connect Comparisons</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Admittedly, user experience hasn&#8217;t been OpenID&#8217;s real strength so far. Usually the redirects between the OpenID Provider and the Relying Party are criticized as being confusing to users. This might be true, but the problem is identified now and will be solved soon, hopefully.
While I understand the criticism, it&#8217;s strange to see comparisons between OpenID [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly, user experience hasn&#8217;t been <a href="http://openid.net/" title="OpenID Website"><strong>OpenID</strong></a>&#8217;s real strength so far. Usually the redirects between the OpenID Provider and the Relying Party are criticized as being confusing to users. This might be true, but the <a href="http://notsorelevant.com/2009-02-11/openid-user-experience-tackled/" title="OpenID User Experience Tackled">problem is identified</a> now and will be solved soon, hopefully.</p>
<p>While I understand the criticism, it&#8217;s strange to see <a href="http://blog.kwiqq.com/2009/04/06/social-networks-move-from-openid-to-facebook-connect/" title="Social Networks Move from OpenID to Facebook Connect">comparisons between OpenID and Facebook Connect like the one on the Kwiqq blog</a>. By the way, <a href="http://www.kwiqq.com/" title="Kwiqq">Kwiqq</a> is a British company building customized social networks.</p>
<p>The author shows some screenshots of logins via OpenID (the Relying Party is Dopplr) and Facebook Connect (the Relying Party is Brightkite). He concludes that there are four steps required until he is logged in with OpenID while there are only two steps required with Facebook Connect. Oddly, he has to log in to his OpenID Provider while he is already logged in to Facebook so he omitts that step in the second scenario.</p>
<p>Comparing apples and oranges? First, Dopplr&#8217;s login screen could be different. So there was no need for step one, an extra click deciding between username/password and OpenID login. Let&#8217;s compare Dopplr with UserVoice.</p>
<p><strong>Dopplr:</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/dopplr-login.jpg" alt="dopplr-login" title="dopplr-login" width="343" height="57" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-976" /></p>
<p><strong>UserVoice:</strong></p>
<p><img src="http://notsorelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/uservoice-login.jpg" alt="uservoice-login" title="uservoice-login" width="500" height="252" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-972" /></p>
<p>As you can see there is no extra step required! It just depends on the website&#8217;s implementation.</p>
<p>If I am logged in to my OpenID Provider already, like the author is to Facebook, there is also no additional step required. I am logged in to UserVoice with just two steps like he his to Brightkite using Facebook Connect.</p>
<p>Of course, companies can manage logins the way they want. If they prefer Facebook Connect they should use it. But blaming bad user experience completely on the protocol &#8211; OpenID &#8211; is wrong. Relying Parties are responsible for it as well.</p>
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		<title>Activity Streams Panel at MIX 09</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you have got some spare time over the weekend, go and check this  excellent video from a panel discussion on activity streams at MIX 09. Panelists include Monica Keller (MySpace), Luke Shepard (Facebook), John McCrea (Plaxo), Kevin Marks (Google), and Marc &#8220;I&#8217;m the cheerleader&#8221; Canter (Broadband Mechanics); moderated by Microsoft&#8217;s Dare Obasanjo. Unfortunately, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have got some spare time over the weekend, go and check this <a href="http://videos.visitmix.com/MIX09/T28F" title="Panel Discussion on Activity Streams"> excellent video from a panel discussion on activity streams at MIX 09</a>. Panelists include Monica Keller (MySpace), Luke Shepard (Facebook), John McCrea (Plaxo), Kevin Marks (Google), and Marc &#8220;I&#8217;m the cheerleader&#8221; Canter (Broadband Mechanics); moderated by Microsoft&#8217;s Dare Obasanjo. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s not possible to embed the video here. Anyway, good stuff!</p>
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