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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/atom10full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" gd:etag="W/&quot;CEcARHwzfSp7ImA9WxNWFUs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802</id><updated>2009-10-14T16:14:05.285-07:00</updated><title>Orange Black and Blue | The Purgatory of Lost Giants Fans</title><subtitle type="html" /><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/posts/default" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/" /><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><link rel="next" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false&amp;v=2" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17666925885824500456</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>229</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><link rel="self" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/orangeblackandblue/NDev" type="application/atom+xml" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" /><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D08MSXg5eip7ImA9WxVaE0o.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-6887411784629804006</id><published>2009-04-10T08:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-04-10T08:04:48.622-07:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-04-10T08:04:48.622-07:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Barry Zito" /><title>Guess Who's Back</title><content type="html">Excuse me for the call back to our favorite Caucasian rapper this side of &lt;b&gt;Vanilla Ice&lt;/b&gt; (who indeed is back in his own, &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIkzQYns61Q" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;peculiar way&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;), but after a hiatus, I am back.&lt;br /&gt;
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Three games into the regular season.  &lt;br /&gt;
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But I implore you to look to the due diligence of our glorious inaugural year here at &lt;b&gt;Orange Black and Blue&lt;/b&gt;, and be assured that that level of output will once again commence.  Particularly with a 2009 club that is immensely &lt;a href="http://top2bottom.net/Pablo_Sandoval-em.jpg" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;more likeable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; than some of &lt;a href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/search/label/Ray%20Durham" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;the clowns&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that made up last year's opening day roster.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, more pragmatically, we're putting the finishing touches on a massive site upgrade.  So please stay tuned and be assured that we'll be around, better than ever, in short order.&lt;br /&gt;
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As if you needed any more reason to be happy now that the good guys have won two more games against the Brew Crew than they did in all of 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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(And don't forget to &lt;a href="mailto:zitobarry@gmail.com" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;wish Dr. Spaceman luck&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for his &lt;a href="http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090409&amp;content_id=4203016&amp;vkey=news_sf&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sf" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;first start&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; tonight!)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Comment!&lt;/b&gt; So how freaking exciting is it that I'm back?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-6887411784629804006?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/6887411784629804006/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2009/04/guess-whos-back.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/6887411784629804006?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/6887411784629804006?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2009/04/guess-whos-back.html" title="Guess Who's Back" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0YMSXc4cSp7ImA9WxVQEko.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-5170893674100546152</id><published>2009-01-29T15:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-29T15:19:48.939-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-01-29T15:19:48.939-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Brian Sabean" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Edgar Renteria" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Brian Bocock" /><title>Slop Hackers R Us</title><content type="html">&lt;b&gt;Jon Heyman&lt;/b&gt; reports that the Giants have &lt;a href="http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/45601-juan-uribe-signs-minor-league-deal-with-giants" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;have inked&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; infielder &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/u/uribeju01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Juan Uribe&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to a minor league deal.&lt;br /&gt;
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I honestly could not envision a player that would shorten &lt;b&gt;Brian Sabean&lt;/b&gt;'s trouser legs more than Uribe.  He's versatile, having played extensively at short, third and second, and has a career .295 OBP.  And, boy, does he like striking out.&lt;br /&gt;
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Truth be told, it's hard to work up too much frustration over a low-impact signing that essentially serves as insurance at any of the infield spots, all of which remain in flux, with the exception of shortstop.  Also bear in mind that it appears Sabes has learned from his laughably tragic mistake of not addressing the backup shortstop position that led to &lt;b&gt;Brian Bocock&lt;/b&gt;, 2008 San Francisco Giants Opening Day starter.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that the San Francisco 49ers franchise is an entirely different matter: I haven't been this worked up since &lt;b&gt;Scott Spezio&lt;/b&gt;.  But that's neither here nor there.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-5170893674100546152?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/5170893674100546152/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2009/01/slop-hackers-r-us.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5170893674100546152?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5170893674100546152?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2009/01/slop-hackers-r-us.html" title="Slop Hackers R Us" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DUABRnYyeCp7ImA9WxVQEUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-1908598595359810588</id><published>2009-01-28T18:32:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-28T18:55:57.890-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-01-28T18:55:57.890-08:00</app:edited><title>Yeah, But Can He Bat Cleanup?</title><content type="html">While the Giants front office hasn't been exactly hitting on all cylinders in recent years, the one thing the team does well is celebrate its past.  From &lt;b&gt;Mays Plaza&lt;/b&gt; to &lt;b&gt;McCovey Cove&lt;/b&gt;, the team cherishes whatever glory it may have once achieved which, for many of you, predate your births.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.cable-car-guy.com/images/giants_mag_wclark_cc.jpg" alt="Nuschler" border="0" /&gt;So it was great to see the Giants &lt;a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/sharks/ci_11567580" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;bring back Nuschler&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; himself to a front office role.  For those of us who came to fan fruition during the Humm-baby years, &lt;b&gt;Will Clark&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Matt Williams&lt;/b&gt; were synonymous with Giants baseball, and Clark's flair for the dramatic (homering of Nolan Ryan in his first at bat, the 1989 NLCS) captivated me and I'm sure many other young'uns alike.&lt;br /&gt;
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I always wonder what would have happened if Clark could have stayed healthy and remained with the Giants passed that imperfectly glorious 1993 season.  A Bonds-Williams-Clark heart of the order would have been a wonder to see for any extended length of time.  It sure would have beat the illustrious stylings of &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/benzito01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Todd Benzinger&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Then again, the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Comeback_(Seinfeld)" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;jerk store&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; would have had nothing on &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; Giants clubhouse.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-1908598595359810588?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/1908598595359810588/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2009/01/yeah-but-can-he-bat-cleanup.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/1908598595359810588?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/1908598595359810588?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2009/01/yeah-but-can-he-bat-cleanup.html" title="Yeah, But Can He Bat Cleanup?" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;Ck8MR34ycCp7ImA9WxVSE0U.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-6734525114527933180</id><published>2009-01-07T16:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2009-01-07T18:14:46.098-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-01-07T18:14:46.098-08:00</app:edited><title>Giants Show Interest in Escuela</title><content type="html">Having shored up an already solid rotation, &lt;b&gt;Brian Sabean&lt;/b&gt; is moving to address a weak lineup, and has exchanged contract proposals with infielder &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Chico_Escuela" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chico Escuela&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, OBnB has learned.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 100px;" src="http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/chico-escuela.jpg" alt="Chico Escuela" border="0" /&gt;Citing &lt;a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3814396" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;b&gt;a report&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in which one of Sabean's colleagues observed that the Giants are "one hitter from being a real good team," the Giants GM indicated he was monitoring the developing Escuela market.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although his talent is undeniable, Escuela is equally known for his amazingly bizarre antics throughout his career, which has alienated teammates and fans alike.  While his behavior has been justified by others as Escuela being naïve and idiosyncratic, he finds his list of suitors dwindling in no small part due to his reputation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Escuela, however, has won in every stop of his career, and his disarming islander attitude can charm even the most skeptical of fans.  &lt;br /&gt;
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It remains to be seen if the Giants can work out a deal for what might be Escuela's last contract, but it's clear that an Esceula-led Giants squad would be berry, berry interesting to watch.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-6734525114527933180?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/6734525114527933180/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2009/01/giants-show-interest-in-escuela.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/6734525114527933180?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/6734525114527933180?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2009/01/giants-show-interest-in-escuela.html" title="Giants Show Interest in Escuela" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17666925885824500456</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="12112223015986517921" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUEMQXg6eip7ImA9WxVTE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-5610587433822544326</id><published>2008-12-26T20:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-26T20:54:40.612-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-26T20:54:40.612-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Randy Johnson" /><title>Who Else's Fifth Starter Has A Cy?</title><content type="html">Ring in Boxing Day by celebrating the &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlkjGgsj5fOm05B_rb9IE142SQGQD95AQ0VG0" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;arrival of Randy Johnson&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to your San Francisco Giants.  The Big Ugly (can I still call him that?) gets $8 million for one year.&lt;br /&gt;
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The lanky lefty will ensure the Giants rotation is 60% Cy Young winners.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe we can melt a couple down and fashion a Silver Slugger or two.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-5610587433822544326?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/5610587433822544326/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/who-elses-fifth-starter-has-cy.html#comment-form" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5610587433822544326?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5610587433822544326?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/who-elses-fifth-starter-has-cy.html" title="Who Else's Fifth Starter Has A Cy?" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">4</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0cFQX48fip7ImA9WxVTEUk.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-8332567222246343660</id><published>2008-12-24T08:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-24T09:50:10.076-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-24T09:50:10.076-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rumors" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Trades" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Minors" /><title>Fool's Gold Crappy Substitute For Real Kind</title><content type="html">As those weirdos across the pond say, Happy Christmas.  Accept this early bounty of gifts, in the form of links, from your friends at OBnB.  While the Yanks ponder offering a long-term deal to &lt;b&gt;Danny Almonte&lt;/b&gt;, us fans of mere mortal (okay, incompetent) franchises are left to review lists of mythical prospects that we may or may not ever actually see on the television.&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, so I'm a little bit bitter about the &lt;a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081223&amp;content_id=3726572&amp;vkey=hotstove2008&amp;fext=.jsp" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mark Texeira deal&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  (So is &lt;a href="http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081223&amp;content_id=3727641&amp;vkey=news_mil&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mil" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;this guy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and he actually matters.)&lt;br /&gt;
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The good news is that there are a couple of nice recently published breakdowns of the Giants minor league system.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Alex Eisenberg&lt;/b&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-intellect.com" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Baseball-Intellect&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; has a Giants top 15 prospect list, found &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-intellect.com/Articles/san-francisco-giants-1-5.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-intellect.com/Articles/san-francisco-giants-6-15.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, that includes fantastic videos of the team's top prospects.&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the great &lt;b&gt;John Sickels&lt;/b&gt; at &lt;a href="http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/12/24/701227/san-francisco-giants-top-2" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Minor League Ball&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; released his top 20 Giants prospects list this morning, complete with the snarkiness of SportsNation commenters.&lt;br /&gt;
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And speaking of SportsNation, the fans continue to rank the prospects at &lt;a href="http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2008/12/23/701143/mccovey-chronicles-communi" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;McCovey Chronicles&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  They're all the way down to 22, but it looks like those crazed McCoven are going to keep voting until they get to &lt;b&gt;J.R. Phillips&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Go ahead and enjoy those.  I think I'm going to go start a &lt;b&gt;Manny Ramirez&lt;/b&gt; rumor.&lt;br /&gt;
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(By the way, Giants propagandist &lt;b&gt;Chris Haft&lt;/b&gt; posits that the logjam the Teixeira signing creates in the Yanks lineup may &lt;a href="http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081223&amp;content_id=3727624&amp;vkey=news_sf&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=sf" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;bear some dredges&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in a trade possibility.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-8332567222246343660?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/8332567222246343660/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/fools-gold-crappy-substitute-for-real.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8332567222246343660?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8332567222246343660?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/fools-gold-crappy-substitute-for-real.html" title="Fool's Gold Crappy Substitute For Real Kind" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkEEQXY5fyp7ImA9WxRaGUo.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-5664515975607875442</id><published>2008-12-22T09:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-22T12:43:20.827-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-22T12:43:20.827-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Matt Cain" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Tim Lincecum" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Randy Winn" /><title>FU Fine Reaction to WBC (and Jeff Passan)</title><content type="html">In a column today, Yahoo's &lt;a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-wbcteamusa122108&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jeff Passan opines&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that American players simply don't have as much national pride and that is why &lt;a href="http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spynotes195970693dec19,0,1783393.story" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;talented player&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; after &lt;a href="http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20081219_Phils__Lidge__Hamels_won_t_play_in_tourney.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;talented player&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is turning down Team USA manager &lt;b&gt;Davey Johnson&lt;/b&gt;'s desperate recruiting pleas.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Among those expected to decline an invitation is our own &lt;a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_11201759" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tim Lincecum&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, otherwise known, quite literally, as &lt;b&gt;The Franchise&lt;/b&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It would seem that Passan's assertion that Lincecum, &lt;b&gt;Cole Hamels&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Josh Beckett&lt;/b&gt; and other WBC party poopers are just &lt;a href="http://www.extrememortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/Sarah%20Palin.jpg" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;un-American&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is a bit simplistic.  I mean, those guys all seem decent enough, right?  Guys who gave it all for championships and are pretty much beyond reproach in the effort department.  They don't have a &lt;b&gt;Bonds&lt;/b&gt;ian, &lt;b&gt;Cobb&lt;/b&gt;-esque stigma that would make it seem like they're all about themselves, others be damned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Well, Jeff has an interesting perspective.  Here's another perspective, which I'd like to dub "The Right One."  If you were one of the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_World_Baseball_Classic_rosters" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;18 to 24 solid major league pitchers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in 2005 and you pitched for your respective country during the '06 WBC, well, chances are you weren't as good in 2006.  And, perhaps most importantly, many didn't recover at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In a completely unscientific sample, I present... &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"&lt;b&gt;Good Pitchers Who Were Not So Good After the 2006 WBC&lt;/b&gt;" (Catchy, huh?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/peavyja01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jake Peavy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;: Which one of these seasons is not like the other?  Peavy remains the poster boy for post-WBC traumatic suck syndrome.  His meteoric rise into this generation's &lt;b&gt;Kevin Brown&lt;/b&gt; (no knock on your personality, Jake) was severely curtailed by his workload for Team USA in 2006.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although he pitched over 200 innings in 2006, his ERA shot up from 2.88 in '05 to 4.09 that year, and he pitched with shoulder discomfort the entire season.  Peavy's sublime talent and overall build won the war of attrition, eventually, and he came back in 2007 to win the Cy Young.  Some, however, weren't as lucky...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/cordech01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chad Cordero&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;: Cordero was coming off a stellar season as a full-time closer for the Nationals, posting a 1.82 ERA and racking up 47 saves.  His 2006 saw that ERA shoot up into the 3s and his decline continued into 2007, when he battled injuries.  Cordero tore a labrum in early 2008 after struggling with his velocity, and is currently a &lt;a href="http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080922&amp;content_id=3527249&amp;vkey=news_was&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=was" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;a free agent&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/colonba01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bartolo Colón&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;: Here's a good example of a patriotic foreigner who gave it all for his country.  The 2005 Cy Young winner (seriously, look), Colón has been completely awful since his stint for the Dominican Republic.  He's compiled a 5.50 ERA in just 194.6 innings combined over the last three seasons after throwing for 200 in seven of the eight seasons prior.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After pitching on an incentive-laden deal with the Red Sox, Colón is hoping to land another Missouri contract for 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/garcifr03.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Freddy García&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;: García had been prone to lapses in consistency, but overall, was a horse of a pitcher, amassing 200 innings pitched in five of his first six seasons through 2005, to go along with a 3.93 ERA in that timeframe, including a 3.87 in '05 with the White Sox.  After? 4.79 in the 289.3 innings he's managed to pitch over the last three campaigns with three different teams while struggling with shoulder injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 33 year-old García is currently seeking work.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/willido03.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dontrelle Willis&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;: Permanent WBCitis doesn't just afflict 30 somethings negatively.  Coming off a &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=willido03&amp;year=2003" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;brilliant 2005&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in which he finished second in Cy balloting,  the 24 year-old Willis manned up for the Jeff Passans of the world and participated in the WBC.  The herky-jerky lefty has never been the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Bay Area native is working to get his career back on track with the Tigers after spending a bulk of the season in the minors...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A couple of pitchers from the WBC came back fine, namely &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/z/zambrca01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Carlos Zambrano&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/santajo02.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Johan Santana&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  But the list is no longer than those who regressed considerably from 2005, many (&lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/loaizes01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Estaban Loaiza&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/romerj.01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;J.C. Romero&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/streehu01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Huston Street&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) of whom I didn't list above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for the notion of mandatory pitch limits in the WBC, I'll leave you this comparison: 65 pitches in Scottsdale against the A's split-squad team in close quarters with the trainers and coaches that know you well is &lt;i&gt;slightly&lt;/i&gt; different than the same number of heaves in a high-pressure competition.  I'd hope the body of evidence above proves that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, sorry, Jeff, Davey Johnson can't have Timmy.  And, while I'm at it, he can't have &lt;b&gt;Matt Cain&lt;/b&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
None of them, however, are unpatriotic.  They're smart. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P.S. We'll gladly donate &lt;b&gt;Randy Winn&lt;/b&gt; again.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-5664515975607875442?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/5664515975607875442/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/fu-fine-reaction-to-wbc-and-jeff-passan.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5664515975607875442?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5664515975607875442?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/fu-fine-reaction-to-wbc-and-jeff-passan.html" title="FU Fine Reaction to WBC (and Jeff Passan)" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A08AQnk5fCp7ImA9WxRaFkQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-7257699262108807312</id><published>2008-12-19T07:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-19T07:17:23.724-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-19T07:17:23.724-08:00</app:edited><title>Where Are They Now? (Hint: It Rhymes with Fatlanta)</title><content type="html">Remember &lt;b&gt;Lance Niekro&lt;/b&gt;, the &lt;b&gt;Travis Ishikawa&lt;/b&gt; of a few years back?  The kid with the famous surname bucked the family business and got into hitting. The first base prospect that never really developed but got a big league shot anyway because, hey, we can't sign a 63 year-old &lt;b&gt;Andres Galarraga&lt;/b&gt; to another contract, right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, after a brief retirement, &lt;a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/19/SPMQ14QQMI.DTL" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;he's back&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  As a knuckleballer.&lt;blockquote&gt;Niekro, who as recently as 2006 was vying to become the Giants' everyday first baseman, is exiting a brief retirement from baseball and will attempt a comeback at age 30 as a right-handed knuckleball pitcher for the Atlanta Braves.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Braves have signed Niekro to a minor-league contract and will bring him to spring training to see if he can extend the legacy of his late father, Joe, and his uncle Phil and make his living floating baseballs to major-league hitters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;As for all players trying to make a mid-career position switch, I'll be rooting hard for the guy.  The fact that he's a former Giant and a knuckleballer makes it way cooler.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-7257699262108807312?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/7257699262108807312/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/where-are-they-now-hint-it-rhymes-with.html#comment-form" title="5 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/7257699262108807312?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/7257699262108807312?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/where-are-they-now-hint-it-rhymes-with.html" title="Where Are They Now? (Hint: It Rhymes with Fatlanta)" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">5</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0INQXg8fSp7ImA9WxRaE0s.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-1962452756367684732</id><published>2008-12-15T09:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-15T10:26:30.675-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-15T10:26:30.675-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jonathan Sanchez" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Brian Sabean" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rumors" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Free Agency" /><title>Dirty Is Filthy; Giants In On Wiggin...ton</title><content type="html">With fantasy season around the corner, fake GMs are emerging from various fake winter meetings in the far recesses of basements everywhere to find a whole new round of 2009 statistical projections.  Among the most discussed of these projections are those of our very own &lt;a href="http://www.rotoauthority.com/2008/12/jonathan-sanche.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jonathan Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;b&gt;Bill James&lt;/b&gt;, the Godfather of Sabermetrics himself, pegs Sanchez as a 3.90 ERA / 1.40 WHIP pitcher next year.  And while James's prognostications tend to be the most optimistic, all the systems peg Sanchez as a particularly unlucky pitcher in 2008 and who stands to improve as chance factors such as BABIP (batted average of balls in play) normalize and as the 26 year-old improves with experience.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Last month, &lt;a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/breakout-candidate-jonathan-sanchez" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;FanGraphs put together an even wonkier breakdown&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; of Sanchez's 2008 season for the die-hard statheads.  Among the highlights:&lt;blockquote&gt;On the bright side, Sanchez struck out almost a batter per inning over 158 innings – not an easy feat. Despite not throwing terribly hard (his fastball averaged 91 MPH), he showed a remarkable ability to induce swings-and-misses – in fact, batters swung and missed at 10.9% of his Sanchez’s pitches, the 9th highest total in baseball. Pitchers who induced higher rates of swings-and-misses were a who’s who of major league baseball’s best pitchers: &lt;b&gt;CC Sabathia&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Scott Kazmir&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Ryan Dempster&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Johan Santana&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Cole Hamels&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Edinson Volquez&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;John Danks&lt;/b&gt;. That’s some elite company.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It seems that other GMs are certainly on to something as they continue to try to bamboozle and hoodwink Sabes into giving the kid up.  Last season may turn out to be, on the surface level, the worst Dirty ever has.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Wigginton Update&lt;/b&gt;: The tireless &lt;b&gt;Tom Dierkes&lt;/b&gt; has the &lt;a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/four-teams-in-1.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Giants in on the bidding&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;b&gt;Ty Wigginton&lt;/b&gt;'s services, according to a number of sources.  It seems that &lt;b&gt;Sabean&lt;/b&gt; was kicking some said tires on Wigginton via trade ahead of last week's non-tender deadline, as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The 'Stros attribute the move solely &lt;a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6162505.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;to the financial crunch&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and, given that there's no reason not to believe them, this pickup would be a step up from your run of the mill reclamation project.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Did I mention that Wigginton plays third, second, first and even outfield in a pinch?  Did I also mention that he can hit for power?  And he's even from the right (left) coast, so in the first time he explores free agency as a player of stature, there's presumably an interest to come out West.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please Santa Sabes, don't sign &lt;b&gt;Rich Aurilia&lt;/b&gt;, God bless him.  Tell ole' Billy Boy to pony up a few mill more and get this guy.  Two years.  It's a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other non-tender names that would intrigue me: &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/saitota01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Takashi Saito&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/burkech01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chris Burke&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/cabreda01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Daniel Cabrera&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  Find the full list of non-tenders &lt;a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081213&amp;content_id=3716347&amp;vkey=hotstove2008&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;partnerId=rss_mlb" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-353011801872723537?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/353011801872723537/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/extreme-utility-player-makeover.html#comment-form" title="7 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/353011801872723537?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/353011801872723537?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/extreme-utility-player-makeover.html" title="Extreme Utility Player Makeover" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">7</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0IBRHs7fSp7ImA9WxRaEE8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-3656821002213410305</id><published>2008-12-11T12:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-11T13:05:55.505-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-11T13:05:55.505-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rumors" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Noah Lowry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Free Agency" /><title>Unit and Giants May Be Ugly Enough For One Another</title><content type="html">&lt;b&gt;Randy Johnson&lt;/b&gt; is zeroing in on the Giants as his preferred landing spot, &lt;a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/11/SPC014MF2J.DTL" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;according to John Shea&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;blockquote&gt;Randy Johnson is being wooed by both Bay Area teams. He seems to prefer the Giants.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"Randy's really interested," one of his agents, Barry Meister, said Thursday, the final day of the winter meetings. "We made a check list of everything that's important, and San Francisco checks off on every box. They're in the National League. They'll be competitive. They train in Arizona.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"San Francisco has a lot of appeal."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian Sabean&lt;/b&gt; seems to be biting, saying he'd consider a one year deal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With &lt;b&gt;Noah Lowry&lt;/b&gt; a massive question mark and the back-end of the rotation being in less than stellar shape, a one-year deal may not be a bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Plus, it gives the marketing department, long since upset with the lack of milestones to celebrate with the departure of &lt;b&gt;Barry Bonds&lt;/b&gt;, something to look forward to.  Best of luck on the "It's 300 Wins, Who Cares If Most Of Them Came With Teams You Hate?" mini-season ticket package.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Players Lost: OF &lt;b&gt;Ben Copeland&lt;/b&gt; (MLB Phase, drafted by Athletics), C &lt;b&gt;Elio Sarmiento&lt;/b&gt; (AAA Phase, drafted by Rangers), 2B &lt;b&gt;Kyle Haines&lt;/b&gt; (AAA Phase, drafted by Phillies).&lt;/blockquote&gt;A bit of a bummer about Copeland, who I liked as a fourth outfielder type, until I realized we already had twenty of them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In a mild surprise, the Giants retained the rights to &lt;a href="http://firstinning.com/players/Jesus-Guzman-a" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jesus Guzman&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, a third baseman the &lt;a href="http://athletics.scout.com/a.z?s=304&amp;p=9&amp;c=2&amp;cid=813891&amp;nid=3510486&amp;fhn=1" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Giants signed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; away from the A's last month.  Though a bit old for the league at 24, Guzman absolutely mashed AA pitching and figured to be a low-risk, high-reward signing.  Having him around for spring training and beyond is obviously a plus.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Sabean has &lt;a href="http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2008/12/09/sabean-calls-sabathia-a-fallback-position-rules-out-teixeira/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;reaffirmed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that the Giants will not go after &lt;b&gt;Mark Teixeira&lt;/b&gt;, inferring he's not a player worthy of the franchise money he will assuredly get, though you could have &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/teixema01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;fooled me&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. And &lt;b&gt;Bruce Bochy&lt;/b&gt; has gone so far as to pencil in his 2009 lineup publicly, which &lt;a href="http://www.leftymalo.com/2008/12/what_happens_in_bochys_lineup.php" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;ELM broke down nicely&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (pun intended).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Realizing the possibility of management returning to the mean (read: ineptitude) and not addressing the notion of &lt;b&gt;Bengie Molina&lt;/b&gt; hitting cleanup, or that &lt;b&gt;Rich Aurilia&lt;/b&gt; inexplicably &lt;a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_11181781?source=rss" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;remains on the radar&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, there absolutely has to be a third way.  There are no less than &lt;b&gt;four&lt;/b&gt; different ways to address the power vacuum where the team can stay competitive in the short-term while not hurting the long-term at all. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dollars aside, &lt;b&gt;Edgar Renteria&lt;/b&gt;'s short-term deal is a good model: there isn't likely to be anyone ready at short for at least two years, and even though Renteria's defense is in decline, he's light years above anyone else the Giants trotted out there last year.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Sign &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=burrepa01" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pat Burrell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to a two-year deal that includes a first baseman's glove&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
Burrell is among the plethora of middle-tier free agents feeling the economic crunch.  A Bellarmine product, there's been much talk he'd love to play for his de facto hometown team.  Judging by his career stats &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=burrepa01#locat-stad" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;at Pac Bell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, I could see why.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He's a butcher at first?  Maybe.  He played first in the Phillies' farm system after playing third in the collegiate ranks only to shift to left to accommodate the indomitable &lt;b&gt;Rico Brogna&lt;/b&gt;.  He really hasn't played much at first since as the Phils have trotted out &lt;b&gt;Travis Lee&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Jim Thome&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Ryan Howard&lt;/b&gt; for stretches during Burrell's tenure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For two years, I'd give him a shot to be coached up by &lt;b&gt;J.T. Snow&lt;/b&gt;.  He's only 31, so the guy isn't on the downslope just yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And for those of you that think that he'd be "blocking" &lt;b&gt;Travis Ishikawa&lt;/b&gt; or &lt;b&gt;John Bowker&lt;/b&gt;, I commend your post-&lt;b&gt;J.R. Philips&lt;/b&gt;/&lt;b&gt;Desi Wilson&lt;/b&gt;/&lt;b&gt;Damon Minor&lt;/b&gt;/&lt;b&gt;Lance Niekro&lt;/b&gt;/&lt;b&gt;Dan Ortmeier&lt;/b&gt; belief that a marginal Giants first base prospect could actually, you know, work out...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Sign or trade a bucket of baseballs for &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/wiggity01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ty Wigginton&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Wigginton is arbitration-eligible and has been mentioned as a candidate to &lt;a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6154543.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;non-tendered&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; ahead of tomorrow's deadline.  The Astros simply &lt;a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6120182.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;can't afford him&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; given their current financial situation, and should they even tender him, it shouldn't take much to get him as long as the Giants pay his salary. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wigginton is a rich man's Rich Aurilia.  He can play three infield positions and plays an adequate third.  He hits for power.  And the only reason his team doesn't want him is financial.  Once again, he blocks no one and gives you insurance in a very fluid infield.  Wigginton also allows you the ability to trade Molina if the right offer comes along and have &lt;b&gt;Pablo Sandoval&lt;/b&gt; slide behind the dish.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/10/31/649202/best-third-basemen-of-2008" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Beyond the Boxscore&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; even had Wigginton as one of the top ten third basemen of 2008.  I like...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Offer &lt;a href="http://firstinning.com/players/Henry-Sosa-a/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Henry Sosa&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://firstinning.com/players/Kevin-Pucetas-a/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kevin Pucetas&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/beltrad01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Adrian Beltre&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Beltre is good.  He plays a good third.  He hits well.  He hits like &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=beltrad01#locat-stad" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;.440 well&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; at Pac Bell.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And given &lt;a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081210&amp;content_id=3712317&amp;vkey=news_nym&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=nym&amp;partnerId=rss_nym" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;yesterday's trade&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, I'm not convinced that the new guy in Seattle's at all an improvement over the old guy.  He certainly, at the very least, isn't interested in winning in the next two years.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for the fact that Beltre's in a contract year?  You retain roster flexibility and cost certainty.  If the guy goes off, maybe he's apt to re-sign.  He's certainly shown an affinity for the West Coast.  You only got him for one of your mid-level prospects at a position where you're stacked...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Offer Pucetas AND Sosa for &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/u/ugglada01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;Dan Uggla&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Not &lt;b&gt;Jorge Cantu&lt;/b&gt;.  Not &lt;b&gt;Jeremy Hermida&lt;/b&gt;.  Don't trade &lt;b&gt;Sanchez&lt;/b&gt;.  But this is an attractive package of decent pitching talent to a team with it's own cost certainty woes.  You don't give up your top level prospects, and you bring in a proven power guy at a position of need.  And you control him for a few years yet...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are some moves that I wouldn't advocate, particularly signing &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/d/dunnad01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Adam Dunn&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, who has hit &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=dunnad01#locat-stad" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;hideously&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; at Pac Bell and has a way that seems to sour teams and fans on him alike.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There's a legitimate case to be made for doing nothing, although I certainly won't.  But you, my friends, can.  Isn't the Internet terrific?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Comment!&lt;/b&gt; What you got, Armchair GM?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-8208561543745852865?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/8208561543745852865/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/random-rumor-mongering.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8208561543745852865?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8208561543745852865?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/random-rumor-mongering.html" title="Random Rumor-Mongering" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUICR349cCp7ImA9WxRbGU8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-5068341515446384109</id><published>2008-12-10T05:44:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-10T07:39:26.068-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-10T07:39:26.068-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rumors" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Free Agency" /><title>UPDATED: Sabathia To Yanks Close?</title><content type="html">(&lt;b&gt;UPDATE&lt;/b&gt; (7:30AM): The deal &lt;a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3759182" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;looks done&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  Seven years at $160M(!)  Glad the big fella was able to leverage one concrete offer and a number of non-offers into a contract nearly as bloated as him.  But seriously folks, I'm glad it's the Yanks who are going to go seven on a guy who threw 1.6 million pitches last season and makes &lt;a href="http://kermittheblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/mangino.jpg" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mark Mangino&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; look positively svelte.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The increasingly dubious chorus of unnamed sources say a deal between &lt;b&gt;CC Sabathia&lt;/b&gt; and the Yanks is close following &lt;b&gt;Brian Cashman&lt;/b&gt;'s pilgrimage to San Francisco.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unsure what to think what with the crappy game of telephone that transpired at the Bellagio this week, so take it for what it's worth.  Whatever happens, we will look back at this as one of the biggest lose-lose personnel decisions the Giants have faced.  Why, oh why, couldn't Sabathia have been a free agent in 2006?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-5068341515446384109?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/5068341515446384109/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/sabathia-to-yanks-close.html#comment-form" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5068341515446384109?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5068341515446384109?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/sabathia-to-yanks-close.html" title="UPDATED: Sabathia To Yanks Close?" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">4</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEEHSHozfSp7ImA9WxRbGUw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-5621347613363277431</id><published>2008-12-09T12:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-10T05:43:59.485-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-10T05:43:59.485-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="William Neukom" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rumors" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Free Agency" /><title>UPDATED: Supreme Confidence ≠ Supreme Competence</title><content type="html">(&lt;b&gt;UPDATE&lt;/b&gt; (1:39PM): The &lt;a href="http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2008/12/09/giants-talk-to-sabathias-camp-yanks-rumored-to-be-out/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Intrepid One&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; says that Sabathia may well have declined the Yanks' $140 million offer, and that the Giants have met with him.  Baggs also says that one exec says the Brewers may now be the frontrunner.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Via the most excellent &lt;a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;MLB Trade Rumors&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, word around the Bellagio is that the Giants are "supremely confident" that they will sign &lt;b&gt;CC Sabathia&lt;/b&gt;, according to &lt;a href="http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/2008/12/sabathia-slippi.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Inside the Dodgers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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(I'll leave it to you all to run with &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; title.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That's an extremely stray rumor that &lt;s&gt;Tom&lt;/s&gt; &lt;b&gt;Tony Jackson&lt;/b&gt; concedes is based on hearsay, but the notion that the Giants are interested would seem to be corroborated by &lt;b&gt;Ken Rosenthal&lt;/b&gt;'s report that management plans to meet with CC in the Bay &lt;a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8913348/Giants-plan-weekend-meeting-with-Sabathia" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;on Saturday&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Between Sabathia continuing to drag his negotiations out and the Giants &lt;a href="http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2008/12/08/sabathia-meeting-debatable-trade-talks-slow/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;non-denials&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, it looks like the smoke here is legit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Which begs the question, if &lt;b&gt;Bill Neukom&lt;/b&gt; is in a mood to make a 1992 &lt;b&gt;Peter Magowan&lt;/b&gt;-esque free agent splash, wouldn't &lt;b&gt;Mark Teixeira&lt;/b&gt; make a whole lot more sense?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-5621347613363277431?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/5621347613363277431/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/supreme-confidence-supreme-competence.html#comment-form" title="11 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5621347613363277431?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5621347613363277431?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/supreme-confidence-supreme-competence.html" title="UPDATED: Supreme Confidence ≠ Supreme Competence" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">11</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkcHQ30_eSp7ImA9WxRbFUw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-7840863747125467573</id><published>2008-12-05T12:35:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-05T12:47:12.341-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-05T12:47:12.341-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jonathan Sanchez" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rumors" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Trades" /><title>Cajun Boy Fans Rejoice At Thought of Encarnacion</title><content type="html">On the heels of a &lt;b&gt;Jonathan Sanchez&lt;/b&gt; for &lt;b&gt;Jorge Cantu&lt;/b&gt; rumor that left many &lt;a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3745735&amp;name=law_keith" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;quite disturbed&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, the Cincinnati Enquirer reports that the Giants have engaged in some tire kicking in regards to &lt;a href="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=MLB&amp;id=3817&amp;line=252530&amp;spln=1" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Edwin Encarnacion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Encarnacion's glove at third is suspect, and although his power numbers spiked last year, his average did tumble from his 2007 level.  Still, the 25 year old is already a proven commodity at a position of big need, and, unlike Cantu, his plate discipline seems to be improving markedly.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;Comment!&lt;/b&gt; So is Dirty for Encarnacion a more palatable deal?  Does anyone prefer Cantu to Edwin?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-7840863747125467573?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/7840863747125467573/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/cajun-boy-fans-rejoice-at-thought-of.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/7840863747125467573?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/7840863747125467573?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/cajun-boy-fans-rejoice-at-thought-of.html" title="Cajun Boy Fans Rejoice At Thought of Encarnacion" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0YHRH44fyp7ImA9WxRbGEs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-8760995900859978365</id><published>2008-12-04T12:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-09T14:18:55.037-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-09T14:18:55.037-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Buster Posey" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Nick Noonan" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Brian Sabean" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Edgar Renteria" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Kevin Frandsen" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Emmanuel Burriss" /><title>Renteria Signs</title><content type="html">The Giants have &lt;a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081204&amp;amp;content_id=3701954&amp;amp;vkey=hotstove2008&amp;amp;fext=.jsp" target='_blank'&gt; &lt;b&gt;inked Edgar Renteria&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to a two-year, $18.5 million deal with a $10.5 million club option for 2010.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If the strategy is that he's a placeholder until the &lt;b&gt;Noonans&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Frannys&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Poseys&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;Mannys &lt;/b&gt;develop, then so be it.&amp;nbsp; Let's just cross our fingers that he isn't keeping SS warm for &lt;b&gt;Sabean&lt;/b&gt;'s inevitable scramble to sign a 36 year old &lt;b&gt;Derek Jeter&lt;/b&gt; to a five-year deal&amp;nbsp; in 2010.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Having already signed two free agents, Old Sabes was at the height of his &lt;a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3744796" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;myopic rhetoric&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; during the announcement:&lt;blockquote&gt;"He is a complete player on both sides of the ball, a clutch performer and a winner," Giants general manager Brian Sabean said in a statement Thursday announcing the deal. "He has the hardware to show it with the awards he has garnered and a World Series ring. We look forward to seeing him in a Giants uniform."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;It's a bit of a stretch to call him a complete player at this stage in his career, but here's to hoping that he can benefit both from a return to the National League and from leaving a team with as toxic a mentality as the 2008 Tigers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-8760995900859978365?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/8760995900859978365/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/renteria-signs.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8760995900859978365?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8760995900859978365?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/renteria-signs.html" title="Renteria Signs" /><author><name>JLev</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01005261219827506465</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="08167009334527829243" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkcCQnwzcSp7ImA9WxRbE04.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-8370501593942115303</id><published>2008-12-03T12:59:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-03T13:01:03.289-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-03T13:01:03.289-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bob Howry" /><title>Howry Signs</title><content type="html">One year at $2.75M with appearance bonuses that can increase the total.  There doesn't appear to be a vesting option for a second year.  Find a full breakdown &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5hP4JBY7BbgFEsj0y1YNkiBwGQMuA" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;here&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-8370501593942115303?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/8370501593942115303/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/howry-signs.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8370501593942115303?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8370501593942115303?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/howry-signs.html" title="Howry Signs" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0MNRHwzcSp7ImA9WxRbE04.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-1242727235942241647</id><published>2008-12-03T11:59:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-03T12:18:15.289-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-03T12:18:15.289-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jonathan Sanchez" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Rumors" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Trades" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Kevin Frandsen" /><title>Further Proof That We're All Banging Our Heads Against the Wall</title><content type="html">Yahoo Sports's &lt;a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-hotstovenotes120308&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tim Brown reports&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that the Giants are closing in on &lt;b&gt;Edgar Renteria&lt;/b&gt;.  Big whoop.  The Giants requested his measurements as soon as the Tigers declined arbitration.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But there is some far juicier news within his piece:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Needing offense and an overhaul of the left side of their infield, the San Francisco Giants believe they are closing in on signing shortstop Edgar Renteria and &lt;b&gt;have discussed a trade that would send left-handed starter Jonathan Sanchez to the Florida Marlins in exchange for third baseman Jorge Cantu&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sanchez, 26, was promising but ever inconsistent in 29 starts in 2008 for the Giants, whose offseason strategy is to part with some young pitching to upgrade one of the worst offenses in baseball. Released by the Reds last December, Cantu, also 26, turned his career around with 29 home runs, 41 doubles and 95 RBI for the surprising Marlins last season.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Heading into the offseason, I would have much preferred to make a move for &lt;b&gt;Dan Uggla&lt;/b&gt;, especially considering that a throng of Giants fans nearly stormed Willie Mays Plaza last offseason pretty much demanding the Giants sign Cantu.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Instead, as we all know, &lt;b&gt;Kevin Frandsen&lt;/b&gt;'s Achilles snapped and we were stuck with the unnamed loser of the Marlins third base competition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That being said, Cantu is young, plays a position of need, albeit somewhat poorly, and had a had a &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=cantujo01&amp;year=2008" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;solid power output&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in a pitcher's park.  He's a hacker, but he's also heading into his prime, and has &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/cantujo01.shtml" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;hit for power&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; throughout his young career.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Comment!&lt;/b&gt; So do you trade Dirty for him?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-1242727235942241647?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/1242727235942241647/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/further-proof-that-were-all-banging-our.html#comment-form" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/1242727235942241647?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/1242727235942241647?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/further-proof-that-were-all-banging-our.html" title="Further Proof That We're All Banging Our Heads Against the Wall" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkEHSX86eSp7ImA9WxRbE08.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-3002062860191333747</id><published>2008-12-03T07:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-03T08:10:38.111-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-03T08:10:38.111-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Brian Sabean" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sergio Romo" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jeremy Affeldt" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Billy Sadler" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Free Agency" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Alex Hinshaw" /><title>Howry Reaches Age of Giants Consent</title><content type="html">In 1994, the Giants selected &lt;b&gt;Bobby Howry&lt;/b&gt; in the fifth round of the amateur draft.  The big lug was a hard-thrower, and he ascended through the system at a nice pace, projecting as a solid late-game reliever.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Of course, at the age of 25, Howry's precociousness shook &lt;b&gt;Brian Sabean&lt;/b&gt; to the core.  Howry's advanced learning curve threatened to undermine Sabean's entire personnel management philosophy (in short: baseball players as fine wines).  Offended by Howry's inexcusable prodigious talent, Sabean came up with a solution: stash the kid somewhere else until he actually possessed the veteran savvy so necessary to achieve success in the big leagues, somewhere no Giants fan would ever see him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hence, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Flag_Trade" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;The White Flag Trade&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But a short decade later, it seems Sabean has deemed Howry &lt;a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081202&amp;content_id=3699633&amp;vkey=hotstove2008&amp;fext=.jsp" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;adequately ripened&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, at least according to team propagandist &lt;b&gt;Chris Haft&lt;/b&gt;.  Coming off a &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=howrybo01&amp;year=2008#total-total" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;2008 season&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that it evokes such Giant names as &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=walkety01&amp;year=2008#total-total" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Walker&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=bautijo01&amp;year=1995" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bautista&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or perhaps, dare I say it, &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=pooleji02&amp;year=1997#total-total" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poole&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, it's easy to see why Sabean likes this guy.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All kidding aside, for a one to two year moderately priced contract, this is the kind of low-risk, medium-reward deal I'd like to see the team make.  Howry's a year removed from a &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=howrybo01&amp;year=2007#total-total" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;solid season&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; at Wrigley, and, in the topsy-turvy world of relievers, there's a good shot he returns to that form going from a hitter's park to a pitcher's park.  Plus, due to the Cubs decision to not offer arbitration to Howry, he comes &lt;i&gt;sans&lt;/i&gt; compensatory pick.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most importantly, keeping with a theme that I like, the guy exhibits a rarity in the Giants bullpen of recent history: control.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Between Howry and &lt;b&gt;Jeremy Affeldt&lt;/b&gt;, you'll have a couple proven vets to step into a bullpen mentorship vacuum to help out the kids with potential in &lt;b&gt;Sergio Romo&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Billy Sadler&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Alex Hinshaw&lt;/b&gt;.  Granted, if Sabean gives Howry a deal that comes close to his &lt;a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2005/11/cubs-sign-bob-h.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;last contract&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and my reaction may rival &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjxFJfcrcA&amp;feature=related" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;this&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-3002062860191333747?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/3002062860191333747/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/howry-reaches-age-of-giants-consent.html#comment-form" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/3002062860191333747?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/3002062860191333747?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/howry-reaches-age-of-giants-consent.html" title="Howry Reaches Age of Giants Consent" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">3</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkEBSXk9eCp7ImA9WxRbE08.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-8344487229640934693</id><published>2008-12-01T13:14:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-03T08:10:58.760-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-03T08:10:58.760-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Nick Noonan" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Eugenio Velez" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Free Agency" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Kevin Frandsen" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Emmanuel Burriss" /><title>Cyber Monday Deal on Edgar Renteria!</title><content type="html">The Tigers &lt;a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20081201/SPORTS02/81201061/1048/sports" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;decline to offer arbitration to Edgar Renteria&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, paving the way for Edgar to join the Giants without losing a second-rounder.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As long as it's a two year deal, and upon further reflection, I'm perfectly fine with the move.  Although many fans are clamoring to see a youth movement, there is little else in the middle infield cupboard besides &lt;b&gt;Manny Burriss&lt;/b&gt;, who, in spite of a nice rookie campaign, has a long ways to go as a major league hitter. &lt;b&gt;Kevin Frandsen&lt;/b&gt; is coming off a big injury and isn't necessarily a guy you hand a starting position to, and &lt;b&gt;Eugenio Velez&lt;/b&gt; is best-suited in a utility role, preferably one that doesn't require him to play defense.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, even with Renteria on board, one will have to play second.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two years of Renteria provides a bridge to the &lt;a href="http://firstinning.com/players/Nicholas-Noonan-a/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nick Noonans&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://firstinning.com/players/Charles-Culberson-a/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Charlie Culbersons&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; of the world.  Or perhaps even &lt;b&gt;Buster Posey&lt;/b&gt; the shortstop, though I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, even if Renteria succumbs to old age or a catastrophic injury, the length of the deal won't cripple the organization by any means.  (Unlike &lt;a href="http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAER023~Edgardo-Alfonzo-Studio-Portrait-Photofile-Posters.jpg" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; people&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-8344487229640934693?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/8344487229640934693/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/cyber-monday-deal-on-edgar-renteria.html#comment-form" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8344487229640934693?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/8344487229640934693?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/12/cyber-monday-deal-on-edgar-renteria.html" title="Cyber Monday Deal on Edgar Renteria!" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkEDQHozfCp7ImA9WxRbE08.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-5485804920029219260</id><published>2008-11-24T13:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-03T08:11:11.484-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-03T08:11:11.484-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Brian Sabean" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Edgar Renteria" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Free Agency" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Emmanuel Burriss" /><title>Rent-A-Shortstop (UPDATED)</title><content type="html">(&lt;b&gt;UPDATE #2&lt;/b&gt; (5:10PM): Per &lt;a href="http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2008/11/24/renteria-report-premature-or-just-plain-wrong/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Baggs&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, the report is "premature, or just plain wrong," which makes sense given the upcoming arbitration deadline.  If the deal has been reached in principle, Baggarly opines the leak severely undermines the Giants' position to retain their pick as the Tigers can now offer Renteria arbitration and be assured of getting a pick.  Very reminiscent of the &lt;a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9500E6D61F3AF930A35751C1A9659C8B63" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yankees situation with Gary Sheffield&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; a few years back.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(&lt;b&gt;UPDATE&lt;/b&gt; (3:18PM): &lt;a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/11/giants-sign-edg.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jerry Crasnick tells MLB Trade Rumors&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that the report is false, according to Renteria's agent.  Meanwhile, &lt;a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=22&amp;entry_id=32956" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Schulman says&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that the Giants and &lt;b&gt;Rafael Furcal&lt;/b&gt; remain in contact.  Ordinarily, reports of a deal are summarily denied by player and team until the contract is finalized, but there seems to be some serious questions as to the validity of WFAN's original report.  The Giants nation turns it lonely eyes to you, &lt;a href="http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;Andy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Judging by the free agent posturing, it had become clear that &lt;b&gt;Brian Sabean&lt;/b&gt; was intent on cobbling together a team that could contend in the porous NL West.  And, today, Sabes made his second strike in free agency, signing shortstop &lt;b&gt;Edgar Renteria&lt;/b&gt;, according to WFAN in New York.  Unconfirmed details of the agreement: 2 years at $18 million.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Off the top of my head, a quick Point Counter Point - &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Point&lt;/b&gt;: There's little in the way of organizational depth at shortstop position in the system, so it makes some sense to supplement the team there through free agency.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Counterpoint&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;b&gt;Manny Burriss&lt;/b&gt; presumably shifts to second base, diminishing his value.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Point&lt;/b&gt;: Two year deal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Counterpoint&lt;/b&gt;: $9 million a year to a 33 year old coming off a season in which he accumulated a &lt;b&gt;Neifi&lt;/b&gt;-esque .699 OPS.  Oh, and the Giants also forfeit their second-rounder.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Point&lt;/b&gt;: Renteria has been historically terrible in the AL and  and a solid hitter in the NL.  He's a year removed from an .860 OPS with Atlanta.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Counterpoint&lt;/b&gt;: That doesn't explain his decline defensively last season, when he posted the &lt;a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=9&amp;sortColumn=zoneRating&amp;sortOrder=true&amp;split=82&amp;qualified=null&amp;season=2005&amp;seasonType=2" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;fourth lowest Zone Rating&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in the majors.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Point&lt;/b&gt;: The entire Tigers team was caught up in a highly contagious malaise that affected team morale.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Counterpoint&lt;/b&gt;: Expecting players in their mid-30s to experience a major revival is the height Sabeanmetric cognitive dissonance.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I could go on (Renteria's &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=renteed01&amp;year=2008#dates-half" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;second half turnaround&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or the fact that the &lt;a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=renteed01&amp;year=c#situa-clutc" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;cold hard statistics&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; belie the common belief that he's a clutch hitter) but I'll leave it to you to for further consternation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My favorite part of this deal is the deal the Giants didn't make: by not giving a long-term deal to &lt;b&gt;Rafael Furcal&lt;/b&gt;, the team avoids committing a long term monies to a guy who could go all &lt;b&gt;Edgardo Alfonzo&lt;/b&gt; on us on a dime.  Furcal's coming off a 36 game season, and backs are the trickiest of body parts to project.  Even Alfonzo was healthy the year before Sabean signed him.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Comment!&lt;/b&gt; Open Renteria consternation thread.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-5485804920029219260?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/5485804920029219260/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/11/rent-shortstop.html#comment-form" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5485804920029219260?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/5485804920029219260?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/11/rent-shortstop.html" title="Rent-A-Shortstop (UPDATED)" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">3</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CkEMQns_eip7ImA9WxRbE08.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-1578221123864119813</id><published>2008-11-17T17:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-03T08:11:23.542-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-12-03T08:11:23.542-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jeremy Affeldt" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Free Agency" /><title>First Blood</title><content type="html">The Giants strike first in free agency, &lt;a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081117&amp;content_id=3682358&amp;vkey=hotstove2008&amp;fext=.jsp" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;signing Jeremy Affeldt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to a 2 year, $8 million deal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The deal strikes me as, well, really good.  Not sure what &lt;b&gt;Brian Sabean&lt;/b&gt;'s angle is here, but this is a great short-term deal to a guy who is &lt;a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-bargain-jeremy-affeldt" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;underrated&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, at least statistically.  From &lt;a href="http://www.fangraphs.com" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;FanGraphs&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Based on 2008, Affeldt has shown an entirely new skillset as compared to his major league career, adding a couple of ticks to both his fastball and curve, which have transformed him into one of the game’s best left-handed relievers. Because his curve is a legitimate second pitch, he shows almost no platoon split, and is equally effective against both LHB and RHBs. His stuff is clearly closer-worthy, and while he has no experience as the 9th inning guy, some smart team would be wise to give him a two or three year contract for setup man money and watch him blossom into one of the game’s best relief aces.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But before all of you go out and celebrate the rehabilitation of Brian Sabean's baseball grey matter, be warned - the needless long-term deal to &lt;b&gt;Rafael Furcal&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/11/as-giants-battl.html" target='_blank'&gt;&lt;b&gt;may be forthcoming&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7726530375513297802-1578221123864119813?l=www.orangeblackandblue.com'/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/feeds/1578221123864119813/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/11/first-blood.html#comment-form" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/1578221123864119813?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7726530375513297802/posts/default/1578221123864119813?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.orangeblackandblue.com/2008/11/first-blood.html" title="First Blood" /><author><name>Hasan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13269781108520747003</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="11284065666767439699" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEYEQ349cSp7ImA9WxRVFE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7726530375513297802.post-3398386954268010952</id><published>2008-11-11T12:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-11T12:41:42.069-08:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-11T12:41:42.069-08:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Tim Lincecum" /><title>Dissident Dis</title><content type="html">Evidently, &lt;b&gt;Chris DeLuca&lt;/b&gt; of the Chicago Sun-Times was the lone writer to omit &lt;b&gt;Tim Lincecum&lt;/b&gt; from his ballot altogether.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Our good friend &lt;b&gt;Tim K.&lt;/b&gt; wrote him this letter in response:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;from: Tim K [email redacted]&lt;br /&gt;
to: cdeluca@suntimes.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chris,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hi, how are you?  Before today I didn't know who you were, but I'm not sure if you know this, but you got written up in a few national publications earlier this morning following the announcement of Tim Lincecum's Cy Young award win.  I noticed that not only did you not vote for him to win, but you didn't even rank him in your top 3.  You totally omitted him from your ballot.  That was a little bit curious to me, so I had a few follow up questions, if you don't mind.  They are listed below:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1)  Do you even like baseball?&lt;br /&gt;
2)  How long have you been writing about sports?  How did you get a job at the Chicago Sun Times?  Are you related to someone who works there?&lt;br /&gt;
3)  Is the stress of being one of the official Cy Young voters too much for you?  In other words, are you somehow trying to get your privileges revoked?&lt;br /&gt;
4)  Where have you been living for the last 8 months?  How is it possible that wherever it was did not have access to Satellite Television or the Internet?&lt;br /&gt;
5)  Are you from Florida?  I ask because I'm wondering how difficult the Cy Young ballot was to complete as compared with the 2000 Presidential Election ballots.  Must be close, if not harder.&lt;br /&gt;
6)  Are you doing this for attention?&lt;br /&gt;
7)  Okay - here's a fair one:  Did you intentionally leave Tim Lincecum off of your Cy Young ballot?&lt;br /&gt;
8)  Really?&lt;br /&gt;
9)  Seriously?&lt;br /&gt;
10)  What is wrong with you?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;
Tim K.&lt;br /&gt;
San Francisco&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
In the harsh world of Bay Area sports, for today, &lt;a href="http://www.baseballwriters.org/awards/2008/2008_NL_cy.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;b&gt;justice&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is served.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Congrats, Timmy.&lt;br /&gt;
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