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		<title>Comment on Using Tweetie 2 with identi.ca by Si Hammond (sixball) 's status on Sunday, 18-Oct-09 07:47:47 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Si Hammond (sixball) 's status on Sunday, 18-Oct-09 07:47:47 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...]  http://otrops.com/archive/2009/10/10/using-tweetie-2-with-identica/        a few seconds ago  from web [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Using Tweetie 2 with identi.ca by Stav Prodromou (stav) 's status on Sunday, 11-Oct-09 01:08:31 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stav Prodromou (stav) 's status on Sunday, 11-Oct-09 01:08:31 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Using Tweetie 2 with identi.ca by Stav Prodromou (stav) 's status on Sunday, 11-Oct-09 00:41:18 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stav Prodromou (stav) 's status on Sunday, 11-Oct-09 00:41:18 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Using Tweetie 2 with identi.ca by Andy C (andyc) 's status on Saturday, 10-Oct-09 06:52:35 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy C (andyc) 's status on Saturday, 10-Oct-09 06:52:35 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<dc:creator>Comparison of mobile plugins for Wordpress | VoIP and other free software, applications or services for mobile phones</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone RSS reader showdown: Byline, Newsstand and NetNewswire by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
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		<description>I tried NNW, the iPhone'd web-App of GoogleReader and now I'm using "MobileRSS" for quite some weeks - and by now I'm really happy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried NNW, the iPhone&#8217;d web-App of GoogleReader and now I&#8217;m using &#8220;MobileRSS&#8221; for quite some weeks &#8211; and by now I&#8217;m really happy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rumors of the apostrophe’s death are greatly exaggerated by Jeff VC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff VC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get upset when its / it's is used incorrectly. In this case, I think it's elitism, as I think that the distinction actually creates more confusion that it resolves.

The whole distiction between the two makes no sense to me.

Apparently, its &lt;a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=its&amp;searchmode=none" rel="nofollow"&gt;was originally spelled it's&lt;/a&gt;. If some crazy grammarian hadn't decided to change it, I think there would be a lot less confusion about apostrophes.

Of course, the other option would have been not to introduce the possessive apostrophe in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get upset when its / it&#8217;s is used incorrectly. In this case, I think it&#8217;s elitism, as I think that the distinction actually creates more confusion that it resolves.</p>
<p>The whole distiction between the two makes no sense to me.</p>
<p>Apparently, its <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=its&#038;searchmode=none" rel="nofollow">was originally spelled it&#8217;s</a>. If some crazy grammarian hadn&#8217;t decided to change it, I think there would be a lot less confusion about apostrophes.</p>
<p>Of course, the other option would have been not to introduce the possessive apostrophe in the first place.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rumors of the apostrophe’s death are greatly exaggerated by Rob Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The latter. For some reason my iPhone automatically corrects 'ill' to I'll which is a clear demonstration for the usage of an apostrophe!

When arguing against possessive apostrophes I normally start with the fact that language is evolving. I then go on to say that if people find possessive apostrophes difficult to use (as demonstrated by abundant misuse) then perhaps they are not worth using. I might then postulate that eventually people will put the apostrophe in for all 's's.

This is of course mostly tongue in cheek. What I find interesting is why people hold onto 'proper' usage. Is it elitism (I learnt proper grammar so everyone else should use it in the correct way) or does it actually make communication more difficult.

When I read my younger cousins emails I feel repulsed (I can, of course, fully understand what they're trying to tell me) due to the "text" speak used. Clearly this is not the future of the English language but one has to recognise that it is changing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latter. For some reason my iPhone automatically corrects &#8216;ill&#8217; to I&#8217;ll which is a clear demonstration for the usage of an apostrophe!</p>
<p>When arguing against possessive apostrophes I normally start with the fact that language is evolving. I then go on to say that if people find possessive apostrophes difficult to use (as demonstrated by abundant misuse) then perhaps they are not worth using. I might then postulate that eventually people will put the apostrophe in for all &#8217;s&#8217;s.</p>
<p>This is of course mostly tongue in cheek. What I find interesting is why people hold onto &#8216;proper&#8217; usage. Is it elitism (I learnt proper grammar so everyone else should use it in the correct way) or does it actually make communication more difficult.</p>
<p>When I read my younger cousins emails I feel repulsed (I can, of course, fully understand what they&#8217;re trying to tell me) due to the &#8220;text&#8221; speak used. Clearly this is not the future of the English language but one has to recognise that it is changing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rumors of the apostrophe’s death are greatly exaggerated by Jeff VC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff VC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, I'm curious.

Are you saying that apostrophes in general are useless or merely the posessive apostrophe?

I may be coming around to the latter point of view. I don't really know how the possesive apostrophe originated, though I now want to do some research to find out.

In the case of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Apostrophe_showing_omission" rel="nofollow"&gt;conjunctions and abbreviations&lt;/a&gt;, I think it's quite useful as a stand-in for omitted letters.

In either case, I can wholeheartedly recommend deploying the George Bernard Shaw quote I used above to further wind up your friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, I&#8217;m curious.</p>
<p>Are you saying that apostrophes in general are useless or merely the posessive apostrophe?</p>
<p>I may be coming around to the latter point of view. I don&#8217;t really know how the possesive apostrophe originated, though I now want to do some research to find out.</p>
<p>In the case of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Apostrophe_showing_omission" rel="nofollow">conjunctions and abbreviations</a>, I think it&#8217;s quite useful as a stand-in for omitted letters.</p>
<p>In either case, I can wholeheartedly recommend deploying the George Bernard Shaw quote I used above to further wind up your friends.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rumors of the apostrophe’s death are greatly exaggerated by Rob Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I find interesting about this debate is whether the apostrophe is actually useful, and useful enough for people to bother using it. I've wound up several friends by suggesting that it's 'pointless', and evolutionary irrelevant. I find it annoying when it's not used but is that just because I'm used to seeing it? In this case should I just get over it? One must recognise that a language is continually evolving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I find interesting about this debate is whether the apostrophe is actually useful, and useful enough for people to bother using it. I&#8217;ve wound up several friends by suggesting that it&#8217;s &#8216;pointless&#8217;, and evolutionary irrelevant. I find it annoying when it&#8217;s not used but is that just because I&#8217;m used to seeing it? In this case should I just get over it? One must recognise that a language is continually evolving.</p>
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