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	<description>jeff van campen's personal blog</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on WordCamp UK 2009 update by Free Ticket Giveaway: WordCamp UK, 18-19 July, 2009 | Real Fresh TV | Social Media, Multi-Platform Marketing and Internet TV Specialists</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/04/11/wordcamp-uk-2009-update/comment-page-1/#comment-10056</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Ticket Giveaway: WordCamp UK, 18-19 July, 2009 | Real Fresh TV | Social Media, Multi-Platform Marketing and Internet TV Specialists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For other write ups on WordCamp UK 2009, check out posts by Neville Hobson and Jeff Van Campen. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For other write ups on WordCamp UK 2009, check out posts by Neville Hobson and Jeff Van Campen. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on London to Brighton (again) by Jeremy Keith</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/05/05/london-to-brighton-again/comment-page-1/#comment-10045</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, next time you cycle down to Brighton, give me a shout, okay?

http://adactio.com/contact/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, next time you cycle down to Brighton, give me a shout, okay?</p>
<p><a href="http://adactio.com/contact/" rel="nofollow">http://adactio.com/contact/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on WordCamp UK 2009 update by boakes.org</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/04/11/wordcamp-uk-2009-update/comment-page-1/#comment-9315</link>
		<dc:creator>boakes.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WordCamp UK 2009 Tickets...&lt;/strong&gt;

Last year’s WordCamp UK was a huge success.  Around sixty people turned up to the Birmingham gig with backgrounds as diverse as one might hope for and expect, given that WordPress is used by all kinds of people for all sorts of things: bloggers, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>WordCamp UK 2009 Tickets&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Last year&#8217;s WordCamp UK was a huge success.  Around sixty people turned up to the Birmingham gig with backgrounds as diverse as one might hope for and expect, given that WordPress is used by all kinds of people for all sorts of things: bloggers, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on WordCamp UK 2009 update by Tony Scott</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/04/11/wordcamp-uk-2009-update/comment-page-1/#comment-9296</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No comment!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Naked for a day by Chris</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/04/09/naked-for-a-day/comment-page-1/#comment-9228</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long live CTRL+shift+s in Firefox with the web developer extension. I love nakedness in websites</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long live CTRL+shift+s in Firefox with the web developer extension. I love nakedness in websites</p>
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		<title>Comment on Naked for a day by Jeff VC</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/04/09/naked-for-a-day/comment-page-1/#comment-9221</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff VC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Abhishek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Abhishek.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Naked for a day by Abhishek</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/04/09/naked-for-a-day/comment-page-1/#comment-9220</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy CSS Naked Day Keep Promoting The web standards spirits !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy CSS Naked Day Keep Promoting The web standards spirits !!</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS tables and border widths in Safari by Jason Grant</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/03/04/css-tables-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-9186</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the bugs or inconsistencies in rendering on Safari (example: the way it handles margins sometimes) have almost driven me nuts in the past.

Had to rewrite the whole CSS once in order to make it Safari compatible also, while it worked on all other browsers including IE6!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the bugs or inconsistencies in rendering on Safari (example: the way it handles margins sometimes) have almost driven me nuts in the past.</p>
<p>Had to rewrite the whole CSS once in order to make it Safari compatible also, while it worked on all other browsers including IE6!</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS tables and border widths in Safari by Jeff VC</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/03/04/css-tables-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-8973</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff VC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ross,

Thanks for the pointer to the quirksmode article. He's nothing if not comprehensive.

I've updated the &lt;a href="http://otrops.com/examples/css-tables/safari-borders/" rel="nofollow"&gt;example&lt;/a&gt; with two sets of divs that include display:table-row and a display:table-cell elements.

The calculated width still appears to be off in Safari.

In addition, I've now confirmed that the same issue exists in Safari 4.

When I have some time, I'll quickly test this in the latest Webkit nightly.  I'll also do some digging in the &lt;a href="https://bugs.webkit.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Webkit bug tracker&lt;/a&gt; to se if I can find any mention of this issue.

Let me know if you turn up anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ross,</p>
<p>Thanks for the pointer to the quirksmode article. He&#8217;s nothing if not comprehensive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve updated the <a href="http://otrops.com/examples/css-tables/safari-borders/" rel="nofollow">example</a> with two sets of divs that include display:table-row and a display:table-cell elements.</p>
<p>The calculated width still appears to be off in Safari.</p>
<p>In addition, I&#8217;ve now confirmed that the same issue exists in Safari 4.</p>
<p>When I have some time, I&#8217;ll quickly test this in the latest Webkit nightly.  I&#8217;ll also do some digging in the <a href="https://bugs.webkit.org/" rel="nofollow">Webkit bug tracker</a> to se if I can find any mention of this issue.</p>
<p>Let me know if you turn up anything else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CSS tables and border widths in Safari by Ross</title>
		<link>http://otrops.com/archive/2009/03/04/css-tables-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-8969</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to quirksmode: Safari and Chrome require elements with display: table and display: table-row to show the cells correctly. The other browsers don't.

&lt;a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/css/display.html#table" rel="nofollow"&gt;Quirks mode&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to quirksmode: Safari and Chrome require elements with display: table and display: table-row to show the cells correctly. The other browsers don&#8217;t.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/css/display.html#table" rel="nofollow">Quirks mode</a></p>
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