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Gaza and Israel IX

Michelle — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:34:23 -0500

Continued from here.

I'll start this one off with a hilarious Israeli video satirizing pro-Israeli arguments for the Gaza massacre.

Click here for video

WikiLeaks: Israel Forging Ahead At Full Speed in Preparation For Total War on Lebanon, Gaza!

NDPP — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 05:02:01 -0500

WikiLeaks: Israel Plans Total War in Lebanon, Gaza - by Juan Cole

http://www.alternet.org/world/149387/wikileaks%3A_israel_plans_total_war...

"The Israeli military is forging ahead at full speed in preparation for a new war in the Middle East. The paper says that US cables quote AshkeNAZI telling the US congressman;

'I'm preparing the Israeli Army for a major war, since it is easier to scale down to a smaller operation than to do the opposite'..."

President Shimon Peres visits Canada: 'Israel's Dove of Peace'

NDPP — Sun, 06 May 2012 18:04:25 -0400

Shimon Peres Is A War Criminal...

http://www.thecommentfactory.com/shimon-peres-is-a-war-criminal-and-his-...

"It is no exaggeration to say Mr Peres' contributions to the Zionist project in Palestine or the sufferings of the Palestinians and Arabs have not stopped since the Nakba, the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in 1947-1949...Questioning the dedication of Peres to the Zionist project in Palestine - all Palestine - does not stand as an option when we listen to the man's statements echoing the racist evil nature of Zionism."

A Special Evening with President Shimon Peres

http://cjnews.canada.gofurb.com/marketplace/ad/22593

Bullying of Palestinian Solidarity on Canadian University Campuses

Catchfire — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:06:45 -0500

UBC student union freezes $700 donation to Gaza flotilla from student club

Palestinian/Israeli Conflict

karenshenfeld — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:09:06 -0400

Yesterday, I heard a talk given by Dr. Gershon Baskin at the Washington D.C. Conference of J Street, a non-profit liberal advocacy group, the aim of which is to promote a “two-state-for-two-peoples” resolution to the Palestinian Israeli conflict. Baskin is the Co-founder and former Co-Chair of the Board of the IPCRI, a joint, internationally funded Palestinian-Israeli public policy organization, also devoted to developing practical solutions for putting a two-state solution into place.

' International Criminal Court Was A Hoax From the Start': ICC Refuses Israeli War Crimes Investigation

NDPP — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:55:53 -0400

'ICC Was A Hoax From the Start': How The Rules Were Broken To Deny Justice To Israel's Victims in Gaza - by Ali Abunimah

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/icc-was-hoax-start-how-...

"The International Criminal Court (ICC) was a hoax from the start.' So said Michael Mandel, a professer at Osgoode Law School at York University in Toronto, in response to the ICC's shocking decision yesterday to refuse jurisdiction over Gaza war crimes without even referring the matter to judges.

Zionist Crimes

NDPP — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:22:07 -0500

The Struggle for East Jerusalem - by Jesse Rosenfeld

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2010/12/201012291164610757...

"Palestinian communities in East Jerusalem are waging a campaign of popular resistance against Israel's land confiscation.."

Egypt: Open the Gates of Gaza!

NDPP — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:44:39 -0500

Unconfirmed reports suggest possible developments at the Rafah Gaza gates. STRATFOR has issued a 'Red Alert' in which they relay unconfirmed reports that:

"The Egyptian police are no longer patrolling the Rafah border crossing into Gaza. Hamas armed men are entering into Egypt and are closely collaborating with the MB (Muslim Brotherhood)..."

Red Alert: Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood:

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/20110129-red-alert-hamas-and-muslim-bro...

Let it be!

Thomas Mulcair's support for Israel 2

Catchfire — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:15:13 -0500

Continued from here.

babblers might be interested in knowing that Thomas Mulcair's campaign has been reading rabble.ca's NDP Leadership roundups, which have been based on babble's discussion. The latest one is here.

It includes a paragraph on babble's ongoing discussion about Mulcair, Israel and foreign policy:

Israel's election: Disaster vs Calamity

aka Mycroft — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:00:54 -0500

The polls in Israel are closing in less than five hours. Never has there been less ideological space between the major parties. The three leading parties (if polls are correct), Likud, Kadima and Liberman's Yisrael Beiteinu are products of splits in Likud and are all descendents of the far right Jabotinskyist wing of Zionism. Liberman, who many call a fascist, would expand the current Bantustan system to include "Israeli Arabs" (ie Palestinians who have Israeli citizenship). Kadima would continue with the status quo, with some modifications, and Likud would expand the settlements more than Kadima and attempt to roll back what limited self-government the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza already have.

Support Freedom Waves to Gaza

NDPP — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:03:28 -0400

'Freedom Waves to Gaza' Flotilla Leaves Turkey Headed to Gaza

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/11/freedom-waves-to-gaza-flotilla-leaves-turk...

"On Wednesday, Nov 1, two international ships left the Turkish harbor to carry humanitarian aid through the Israeli blockade of Gaza. The event, called 'Freedom Waves for Gaza', unites 27 activists from 9 countries, including America, Canada, Denmark, Belgium, Germany and Australia, alongside Palestinians from Bethlehem and Haifa, in a broadbased international movement to break Israel's illegal and immoral suffocation of the 1.6 million inhabitants of the Gaza Strip.."

Free Gaza! Support the Freedom Flotilla II

NDPP — Sun, 29 May 2011 17:58:47 -0400

Canadian Boat To Challenge Israeli Blockade of Gaza - by John Bonnar

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/johnbon/2011/05/canadian-boat-challenge-...

"...Composed of 600 passengers from 40 countries, the Flotilla will include 12 ships plus the Turkish Mavi Marmara which was attacked by Israeli naval forces in the first mission..."

European Campaign Slams Ban Ki-moon Calls Curtailing Gaza Aid

http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2011/05/european-campaign-slams...

The Goldstone Report - Part II

Diogenes — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:46:25 -0500

continued from here

Roger Waters calls for no more bricks in the (West Bank) wall

alan smithee — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:09:30 -0400

In 1980, a song I wrote, Another Brick in the Wall Part 2, was banned by the government of South Africa because it was being used by black South African children to advocate their right to equal education. That apartheid government imposed a cultural blockade, so to speak, on certain songs, including mine.

WikiLeaks: Israel Asked PA to Retake Gaza

NDPP — Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:29:37 -0500

Leaked Cable: Israel Asked PA to Retake Gaza After War

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=336904

"Israel approached the PA and Egypt about potentially assuming control of the Gaza Strip following a theoretical 'defeat' of Hamas before Israel's winter war on Gaza, a leaked US diplomatic cable revealed Sunday.."

Hamas to PA: End Negotiations Now and Forever

NDPP — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:09:51 -0400

Hamas to PA: End Negotiations Now and Forever

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=327518

"Hamas demanded on Monday that the Palestinian Authority cease negotiations with Israel.

'The PA should stop negotiations now and forever. Israel does what it wants without a thought to Palestinian rights,' Hamas spokesman Fauzi Barhoum said in a statement. 'What is needed from the PA is a declaration of their withdrawal from negotiations and encouragement of resistance which is the only means through which Palestinians will regain their rights.."

Jewish Boat to Gaza Boarded by Israeli Forces and Taken Towards Ashdod Port

NDPP — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:45:00 -0400

Jewish Boat to Gaza Boarded by Israeli Forces and Taken Towards Ashdod Port

http://jewishboattogaza.org

"The Irene, a boat carrying nine passengers and aid for Gaza's population has been taken over by the Israeli navy and denied access to Gaza.."

BBC Interview, Gaza Flotilla with Kenneth O'Keefe, Hands down must see.

ravenise — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:07:15 -0400

It is not often that one comes across an interview which merits the adjective 'brilliant'. However Kenneth O'Keefe's interview with the BBC, in 3 parts lives up to the billing as he lays into Israel's bare-faced lies to justify its attack on the Mavi Marmara and the Gaza Freedom Flotilla. He points out that yes he helped disarm 2 navy commandos and separate them from their weapons, but that they were given medical treatment and not harmed, despite having killed 2 of his brothers.

O'Keefe, who has been a prominent peace activist and tore up his US passport in protest at the Iraq War, was savagely beaten up by the cowards of Israel's so-called defence forces.

Canada-Israel Committee counters criticism of Israel with homophobic tweet

Michelle — Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:59:52 -0400

They removed it after they got complaints, but luckily, someone was on their toes and got a screen capture of a homophobic remark the Canada-Israel Committee posted about Libby Davies on Twitter.

Quote:

Davies' goofy views must be denounced - Province ed reminds Libby mouthy lesbians aren't wanted in #Gaza

What morons. And who does the Canada-Israel claim to represent on Twitter?

Quote:

The CIC is the official rep of the organized Jewish community on matters re Canada-Israel relations.

CBC coverage of the Gaza flotilla

kim elliott — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:46:02 -0400

First, I know that we have previous threads on complaints about the CBC, but I think their coverage of the Gaza flotilla deserves a new thread. (If the moderators disagree I'm sure I'll hear about it!)

Bob Rae on the comments of NDP Deputy Leader Libby Davies on the State of Israel

writer — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:13:03 -0400

Quote:

"The appropriate decision, given her stature and responsibilities with the NDP, is for Mr. Layton to ask for her resignation as Deputy Leader and for Ms. Davies to issue an apology to all Canadians. Nothing short of that will do." — Bob Rae, MP, 613-992-5234, 416-954-2222,

full statement

Freedom Flotilla Enroute To Gaza To Deliver Aid

NDPP — Fri, 21 May 2010 23:31:07 -0400

Freedom Flotilla Enroute to Gaza To Deliver Aid

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19254

"On May 18, 2010, the MV Rachel Corrie, a 1200 ton cargo ship, part of the 8 vessel Freedom Flotilla, set said from Ireland on its way to the Mediterranean Sea. The ships will be joined there by ships from Turkey and Greece, where they will make their way to Gaza.

The ships are carrying construction materials as well as mediacal and educational supplies. Many in Canada and around the world are anxious to see if Israel will carry through on threats to sabotage the humanitarian mission.."

New information surfaces on Minister of Citizenship and Immigration's involvement in George Galloway banning

kim elliott — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:34:10 -0400

Some of rabble's staff spent the week-end poring through federal court documents in the upcoming court date on the George Galloway ban from Canada (The court date is April 26th)

Israel attacks Gaza again

Left Turn — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:18:16 -0400

Easter Greetings from Fr. Manual Musallam of the Holy Family Church in Gaza

NDPP — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:11:10 -0400

Palestine's 'Turbulent Priest'

http://www.blogfrommiddleeast.com/?new=64664

"Jerusalem was the city of god, peace and prayer, but has been converted into a city of man, war and hatred..

We do not accept the speech of Israeli leaders that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and that building in it is no different from building in Tel Aviv. Occupation is a sin and a form of terrorism, and when relying on the texts of the Torah to kill people or expel and remove them from their land it rises to the level of a crime against humanity.

All perpetrators should be judged by the International Criminal Court before being judged by the just court of god.

Forget the two-state solution, part 2

skarredmunkey — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:14:44 -0500

continued from here...

There are enormous hurdles to a one-state solution - even though it is probably the preferable solution, and unless Israel accepts the Saudi proposal or something better than it, the one-state solution is the most likely one going forward. Otherwise, a few points:

Gaza Freedom March

Left Turn — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:47:12 -0500

Who Cares About Gaza?

NDPP — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:38:50 -0500

Who Cares About Gaza?

http://www.counterpunch.com/cloughley12112009.html

"Gaza? What's that? Have you heard about it recently? It doesn't figure on the list of important matters for consideration by the world's presidents and prime ministers. It has vanished from the media. Most people couldn't care less about a generation of Palestinians who are subjected to viciously inflicted privation by an imperialist nation that has lost touch with humanity..."

which would include Canada

Did Traitor Abbas Instigate the Gaza Massacre?

NDPP — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:36:52 -0400

Did Traitor Abbas Instigate the Gaza Massacre?

http://www.kawther.info/wpr/2009/10/did-traitor-abbas-instigate-the-gaza...

"Did the Palestinian Authority plan and even instigate the war crimes on Gaza together with Israel?

Is the PA also actively involved in urging the UN to postpone the vote on the report of Goldstone, which accuses Israel of committing war crimes against Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip?

If these allegations are true, and the PA was involved in these inhuman crimes, then it is the duty of all human rights organizations to add the names of the President of the Palestinian Authority and Tayeb Abdel Rahim to the list of the Israeli war criminals involved in the massacre of Gaza last January.."

Hamilton Fundraiser to Defend Free Speech Against Harper July 4

Brendan Stone — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:25:35 -0400

HELP THE CANADIAN ARAB FEDERATION FIGHT FOR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION FOR ALL CANADIANS!

Just days after the Canadian Arab Federation (CAF) criticized the Canadian government for its one-sided support of Israel's violent incursion in Gaza, the Harper government cut off all federal English-as-a-second language (ESL) funding to CAF. That ESL funding was utilized on behalf of new Canadians of many ethnic origins, not just Arab-Canadians. CAF took legal action against the federal government and is conducting a cross-Canada, fund-raising campaign to cover its legal costs.

Is Canada a Racist Nation?

Diogenes — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:48:07 -0400

I going on vacation really happy that Abdelrazik made it home.

Before I go, I thought I would leave you with this blog: Is Canada a Racist Nation?

Quote:

Collectively, the actions of this government with respect to its citizens of arab or muslim descent, and the failure of the opposition parties to hold this government to account is racist. It is selective; uneven; and without regard or respect for the laws of this land or the rights of its people.

Anti-Israeli is not the same as anti-semitic (btw: what a stupid word).

It's scary how a small group of fanatics have the testicles of our politcal leaders in a vice.

Boycott Israel (part 2)

Unionist — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:30:57 -0500

I'm reprinting the Call of the Palestinian Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions National Committee, issued December 27, 2008, and entitled:

"Stop the massacre in Gaza - boycott Israel now!"

Quote:

PM feared Galloway--Linda McQuaig

contrarianna — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:59:22 -0400

A good summation by Linda McQuaig--and she also mentions the Canadian "Security" deal with Israel.

---also printed in the Toronto Star

PM feared Galloway's message
By Linda McQuaig
| April 7, 2009

Anti-Arab racism in Israel

aka Mycroft — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:23:19 -0500

Two rather distressing articles:

George Galloway barred from entering Canada for anti-war views

Séarlait — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:49:57 -0400

A public forum featuring GEORGE GALLOWAY: Resisting war from Gaza to Kandahar
MONDAY, MARCH 30
6:15pm: Doors open 7:00pm: Event begins
Metropolitan United Church
56 Queen Street East
Directions: Two blocks east of Yonge and Queen (parking available on site)

Sid Ryan Bites Back

Frustrated Mess — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:24:00 -0500

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UPE Ontario has stood up against human rights abuses all over the world and in our own country and we will continue to do so.

Some have claimed targeting Israel for a boycott rather than other countries that commit human rights abuses is anti-Semitic. In the 1960s, Canada played a major role in an international boycott of South Africa. That highly successful effort included academic, political, economic, cultural and sports boycotts. The goal was to end apartheid.

Linchpin #8 (Ontario anarchist newspaper) out now!

Mick — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:23:39 -0500

Linchpin #8 OUT NOW!

Common Cause has published the February-March '09 issue of the
Linchpin, with articles on mobilizing for Gaza, Black Anarchism, and
the uprisings in Greece, as well as a review of The Unexpected War:
Canada in Kandahar.

You can find Linchpin online at
http://linchpin.ca/collections+/+Anarchist-movement+/+Linchpin-Issue-8.

DOWNLOAD ---> PDF of Linchpin issue #8 to download
http://linchpin.ca/files/issue8_final_greyscale_0.pdf

Copies of Linchpin are available in Ontario communities where we have

Gaza and Israel VIII

M. Spector — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:54:41 -0500

The previous thread-chunk has hit 100 posts. This is a powerful disincentive for anybody who wants to continue a serious discussion to make any more posts in that particular thread-chunk, which will soon be consigned to babble cut-out limbo by the thread-nazis.

Besides, that thread-chunk has been invaded by a particularly obnoxious anti-semite.

And so I am continuing the discussion here.

Gaza Stories

Frustrated Mess — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:20:28 -0500

Quote:

Throughout the 21-day war, Abu al-Aish has brought accounts of war's tragedy to Israeli living rooms, making him for many the voice of Palestinian suffering.

During the broadcasts, Abu al-Aish also often spoke of his fears for his eight children as Israeli shells punished not only the Hamas militants they were targeting but civilians who live in the crowded enclave. His wife reportedly died recently of cancer.

When Channel 10 called him on Friday, he answered his cell phone crying that his house in the northern Gaza strip town of Jebalia had been hit by Israeli shells and his daughters killed. Eighteen members of his extended family were in the house at the time.

A Shocking Loss of Media Nerve: Locked Out of Gaza

Paul D. Boin — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:21:04 -0500

A Blog for Media Justice, By Paul D. Boin, is jointly sponsored by Rabble.ca and the Media Justice Project.

Chomsky and Palestine

Ze — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:22:37 -0500

An article calling Noam Chomsky too soft on Israel and even an enabler of Israeli government crimes .... Not necessarily my view of Professor C, and not meant as one of the usual BS right-wing attacks on him for having 12 houses and dancing on Cambodian graves, but interesting....

Gaza truce and Obama fuel talk of talking to Hamas

saga — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:36:14 -0500

Gaza truce and Obama fuel talk of talking to Hamas Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:54am GMT By Alastair Macdonald - Analysis

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - War ends in the Gaza Strip, a new U.S. president is sworn in, and suddenly this week there is new talk about talks between sworn enemies Israel and Hamas.

But talk may be as far as it goes. Neither the contenders in Israel's election nor Barack Obama seem to share a view that, with the Islamists blooded but unbowed in Gaza where people now require massive aid, Israel and its allies should end a boycott of Hamas in both Palestinians' interests and their own.

AWID interviews Islah Jad about Palestinian and Israel women

martin dufresne — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:47:18 -0500

With Israel’s military operation in Gaza continuing unabated, AWID interviews Islah Jad* about the current situation and its impact on women.

By Rochelle Jones

Source: AWID , 16/01/2009

Gaza: How do you deal with your feelings...

martin dufresne — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:45:25 -0500

of impotence, fury, grief, hatred...?

Iggy bans Lib MPs from Gaza rallies?

aka Mycroft — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:39:47 -0500

http://canadian-firebrand.blogspot.com/2009/01/liberal-mps-gagged-on-gaza.html

Quote:

I've just heard word from a reliable source that Liberal MPs have been instructed not to speak at Gaza solidarity rallies with the threat that if they do their nominations forms will not be signed for the next election. I wonder if Liberals have been given the same instruction in relation to pro-Israel rallies?

Peter Kent on Israeli tank attack on a school

ikat381 — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:32:15 -0500

From the Toronto Star, Jan 7th 2009:

Peter Kent on the Israeli tank attack against a UN school:

"Hamas bears a terrible responsibility for this and for the wider deepening humanitarian tragedy."

For your convenience, here's the email address of Minister Kent's office: Kent.P@parl.gc.ca

Gaza, Israel, Hamas, etc [II]

Brendan Stone — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:05:54 -0500

Regarding the post about Jennifer Loewenstein's article early in the previous thread, people may find this interview interesting - it was conducted this Wednesday:

"We interview author-activist and researcher Jennifer Loewenstein on the suffering in Gaza and the bombing.

She draws upon her impressive list of contacts in Palestine and in Gaza to draw a picture of what is happening."

MP3
Download link:
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/30960

Support Demonstration for Gaza in Hamilton Dec. 13

Brendan Stone — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:48:25 -0500