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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by Nigelj		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 01:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445&quot;&gt;Martin Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

Not just you. I have sometimes waited several minutes or longer over the last couple of days for pages to load, and on one occasion I received a 502 bad gateway message. Thats a network server issue not my own computer.. Happened a few months back as well. Haven&#039;t noticed this type of error message on other websites recently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445">Martin Smith</a>.</p>
<p>Not just you. I have sometimes waited several minutes or longer over the last couple of days for pages to load, and on one occasion I received a 502 bad gateway message. Thats a network server issue not my own computer.. Happened a few months back as well. Haven&#8217;t noticed this type of error message on other websites recently.</p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 21:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445&quot;&gt;Martin Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

It happens sometimes 503 error, may be traffic or server doing things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445">Martin Smith</a>.</p>
<p>It happens sometimes 503 error, may be traffic or server doing things.</p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 19:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alpine glaciers: Very severe ice loss - We are seeing enormous rates of erosion and melting of ice and snow across the entire Alpine region https://earthclimate.eu/2026/06/28/alpine-glaciers-very-severe-ice-loss/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alpine glaciers: Very severe ice loss &#8211; We are seeing enormous rates of erosion and melting of ice and snow across the entire Alpine region <a href="https://earthclimate.eu/2026/06/28/alpine-glaciers-very-severe-ice-loss/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://earthclimate.eu/2026/06/28/alpine-glaciers-very-severe-ice-loss/</a></p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by Karsten V. Johansen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karsten V. Johansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 19:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849381&quot;&gt;Susan Anderson&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the links, Susan! I asked Michael Mann in may, when he on his FB site wrote rather authoritatively, based on the april 15 NOAA El Niño advisory/model predictions, that this was very unlikely to be an extreme event, why the NOAA prediction was much less extreme than the may 01 ECMWF predictions chart https://www.severe-weather.eu/wp-content/gallery/long-range/enso-regions-forecast-2026-weather-long-range-united-states-north-america-el-nino-latest-runs-trend-development-ecmwf-extended-data-record-peak-higher.png . He didn&#039;t bother to answer me. Around ten days later I asked why, and if this silence of his maybe was for political precautional reasons like those which were recently mentioned by James Hansen in a note, where he is protesting being frozen out/critizised behind his back by some leading folks at the NOAA/NASA and the 350.org. I mentioned the important warning from the excellent historian Timothy Snyder about never obeying in advance. That probably angered Michael very much, since he just blocked me without any explanation whatsoever. That&#039;s a political style which I don&#039;t use except very seldom against obvious cases of fascists and extreme denialists, and which no reasonable people use here in Norway (and Europe) where I live, even if arrogance of course is also common among academics here. I find it only counterproductive in any aspect to act in this manner.. I mean, after all, all the later predictions concerning the upcoming El Niño event are indeed becoming more and more extreme, directly contradicting Michael&#039;s rather rash conclusions in the opposite direction early in may, and certainly justifying my question to him concerning this. 

If we can&#039;t have frank an direct, but friendly and polite discussions among ourselves and clear the air, we are certainly going to loose big time against the trumpists, putinists etc. I suspect this is also at the very core of the problem you mention in your comment above. A forum dominated mainly by solipsists and elitists who know all the answers and find themselves elevated far above common highschool teachers and local politicians etc. like myself, frankly doesn&#039;t have very much worth to the enlightenment of the huge majority in our society, and like you, I&#039;ll certainly not prioritize it. I&#039;d rather avoid being alienated and frankly depressed even more than I already am, in this vaning &quot;society&quot; with all it&#039;s VIPs. I think a lot of upper middle class americans now urgently need to think very hard about why Kamaly Harris lost in 2024, despite (or maybe rather because of?) all her sorrounding celebrities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849381">Susan Anderson</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the links, Susan! I asked Michael Mann in may, when he on his FB site wrote rather authoritatively, based on the april 15 NOAA El Niño advisory/model predictions, that this was very unlikely to be an extreme event, why the NOAA prediction was much less extreme than the may 01 ECMWF predictions chart <a href="https://www.severe-weather.eu/wp-content/gallery/long-range/enso-regions-forecast-2026-weather-long-range-united-states-north-america-el-nino-latest-runs-trend-development-ecmwf-extended-data-record-peak-higher.png" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.severe-weather.eu/wp-content/gallery/long-range/enso-regions-forecast-2026-weather-long-range-united-states-north-america-el-nino-latest-runs-trend-development-ecmwf-extended-data-record-peak-higher.png</a> . He didn&#8217;t bother to answer me. Around ten days later I asked why, and if this silence of his maybe was for political precautional reasons like those which were recently mentioned by James Hansen in a note, where he is protesting being frozen out/critizised behind his back by some leading folks at the NOAA/NASA and the 350.org. I mentioned the important warning from the excellent historian Timothy Snyder about never obeying in advance. That probably angered Michael very much, since he just blocked me without any explanation whatsoever. That&#8217;s a political style which I don&#8217;t use except very seldom against obvious cases of fascists and extreme denialists, and which no reasonable people use here in Norway (and Europe) where I live, even if arrogance of course is also common among academics here. I find it only counterproductive in any aspect to act in this manner.. I mean, after all, all the later predictions concerning the upcoming El Niño event are indeed becoming more and more extreme, directly contradicting Michael&#8217;s rather rash conclusions in the opposite direction early in may, and certainly justifying my question to him concerning this. </p>
<p>If we can&#8217;t have frank an direct, but friendly and polite discussions among ourselves and clear the air, we are certainly going to loose big time against the trumpists, putinists etc. I suspect this is also at the very core of the problem you mention in your comment above. A forum dominated mainly by solipsists and elitists who know all the answers and find themselves elevated far above common highschool teachers and local politicians etc. like myself, frankly doesn&#8217;t have very much worth to the enlightenment of the huge majority in our society, and like you, I&#8217;ll certainly not prioritize it. I&#8217;d rather avoid being alienated and frankly depressed even more than I already am, in this vaning &#8220;society&#8221; with all it&#8217;s VIPs. I think a lot of upper middle class americans now urgently need to think very hard about why Kamaly Harris lost in 2024, despite (or maybe rather because of?) all her sorrounding celebrities.</p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by John Pollack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Pollack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 18:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849453&quot;&gt;Adam Lea&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;It is not a problem with AI, it is a problem with an increasing number of dysfunctional people in society.&quot;
...  &quot;a human is largely restricted to their own experiences and world view.&quot;  

My take on it is that you&#039;ve given Susan and the rest of us an example of &quot;mansplaining.&quot;  I&#039;m speaking as somebody attempting to eliminate it from my own behavior, and therefore bent on identifying it.  

From &quot;Men Explain Things To Me&quot; by author and historian Rebecca Solnit :  &quot;Having public standing as a writer of history helped me stand my ground, but few women get that boost, and billions of women must be out there on this six-billion-person planet being told that they are not reliable witnesses to their own lives, that the truth is not their property, now or ever.&quot; 

As I read it, Susan found the use of AI summaries in preference to her understanding derived from conversations with her own father to be deeply offensive, and dismissive of her.  This was specific to the RealClimate conversation.  While it could have happened in other ways, the use of AI on this website is a specific problem.  I haven&#039;t noticed an overall increase in dysfunctional people on this website, although more of their material used to get diverted to the Bore Hole or Crankshaft when those were available.  

Fwiw my own take on AI is that the extreme environmental costs and coecions are not being addressed at present.  Meanwhile, AI chatbots have a personality trained to be that of a pleasant and knowledgeable sociopath.  It has no compunction about making up lies or manipulating you, and its eventual goal is to make you dependent and take you for as much money as it can - at the behest of its corporate creators.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849453">Adam Lea</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is not a problem with AI, it is a problem with an increasing number of dysfunctional people in society.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;  &#8220;a human is largely restricted to their own experiences and world view.&#8221;  </p>
<p>My take on it is that you&#8217;ve given Susan and the rest of us an example of &#8220;mansplaining.&#8221;  I&#8217;m speaking as somebody attempting to eliminate it from my own behavior, and therefore bent on identifying it.  </p>
<p>From &#8220;Men Explain Things To Me&#8221; by author and historian Rebecca Solnit :  &#8220;Having public standing as a writer of history helped me stand my ground, but few women get that boost, and billions of women must be out there on this six-billion-person planet being told that they are not reliable witnesses to their own lives, that the truth is not their property, now or ever.&#8221; </p>
<p>As I read it, Susan found the use of AI summaries in preference to her understanding derived from conversations with her own father to be deeply offensive, and dismissive of her.  This was specific to the RealClimate conversation.  While it could have happened in other ways, the use of AI on this website is a specific problem.  I haven&#8217;t noticed an overall increase in dysfunctional people on this website, although more of their material used to get diverted to the Bore Hole or Crankshaft when those were available.  </p>
<p>Fwiw my own take on AI is that the extreme environmental costs and coecions are not being addressed at present.  Meanwhile, AI chatbots have a personality trained to be that of a pleasant and knowledgeable sociopath.  It has no compunction about making up lies or manipulating you, and its eventual goal is to make you dependent and take you for as much money as it can &#8211; at the behest of its corporate creators.</p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by John Pollack		</title>
		<link>https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849466</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Pollack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 15:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445&quot;&gt;Martin Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

I was also experiencing a slow response for a few days here in the U.S. with one or two &quot;bad gateway&quot; messages.  Things seem to be back to normal at the moment.  However, I am unable to access the ECMWF charts web page now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445">Martin Smith</a>.</p>
<p>I was also experiencing a slow response for a few days here in the U.S. with one or two &#8220;bad gateway&#8221; messages.  Things seem to be back to normal at the moment.  However, I am unable to access the ECMWF charts web page now.</p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by Barry E Finch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry E Finch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849434&quot;&gt;Barry E Finch&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;(stratosphere) it cools all from the top of troposphere down&quot; S.B.
&quot;(stratosphere) it cools all from the top of stratosphere down&quot;]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;(stratosphere) it cools all from the top of troposphere down&#8221; S.B.<br />
&#8220;(stratosphere) it cools all from the top of stratosphere down&#8221;</p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by Barton Paul Levenson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barton Paul Levenson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 13:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445&quot;&gt;Martin Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

No, I&#039;m seeing it as well, and I&#039;m in the USA.  I&#039;m wondering if this is some kind of half-assed DOS attack.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445">Martin Smith</a>.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m seeing it as well, and I&#8217;m in the USA.  I&#8217;m wondering if this is some kind of half-assed DOS attack.</p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by Thomas Fuller		</title>
		<link>https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849462</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Fuller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 08:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849430&quot;&gt;Ray Ladbury&lt;/a&gt;.

Who cares, Mr. Ladbury? It was close to global and it was a real event.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849430">Ray Ladbury</a>.</p>
<p>Who cares, Mr. Ladbury? It was close to global and it was a real event.</p>
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		Comment on Unforced Variations: June 2026 by Thomas Fuller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Fuller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2026 08:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445&quot;&gt;Martin Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

It is not just you. I&#039;m in Spain and pages take forever to load.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/06/unforced-variations-june-2026/#comment-849445">Martin Smith</a>.</p>
<p>It is not just you. I&#8217;m in Spain and pages take forever to load.</p>
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