Reply to Martin Smith

KM: …despite being up there in icy Norway with all that Oil wealth that supports your fancy EV lifestyle.

Apparently Martin, you cannot lie straight in bed such is the depth of your conflicted state of living in denial,

The Fossil Fuel Export Generated Wealth and GHG Emissions of Norway has been Propping up the Govt Fiscal Budget for Decades

This single withdrawal finances approximately 20% to 27% of all central government expenditures. Without this multi-billion dollar injection, Norway would run a massive non-oil budget deficit…… or all Norways population and Corporations would be paying 25% more Tax or the Govt would be slashing Govt Spending / Welfar across the Boiard.

Zero Cash spare to offer Tax breaks and Incentives for EVs or Renewable Energy Options. They’d be broke or far worse off otherwise.

Where does all this FOSSIL FUEL INCOME GO? To U.S. Stock Markets Mainly —
Investing a massive portion of its $2.3 trillion value in foreign public equities (holding roughly 1.5% of all global listed shares) and fixed income facilities.

Ensuring that Fossil Fuels keep the worlds financial systems ticking over and the Billionaire class growing to become Trillionaires …. All Kudos to Norway filling the skies with pollution and CO2

Let us Bless All who sail in her, until that Ship too finally goes down with the rest, just like the unsinkable Titanic did.

Snicker :-)

Reply to Martin Smith

Martin, feel to continue your endless crusade of arguing against your paper machete fantasy version of myself which you’ve created — yet does not exist.

The truth is, you cannot bring yourself to acknowledge anything about YOUR question and what it means; or look at the the linked Nate video, or confirm you watched it; or admit you can now see what the baseline comment was referring to specifically? It’s as if nothing ever happened at all.

And you cannot even admit that my comment’s content FLOWED naturally into my next comment you responded to either? And you couldn’t work that out all by yourself – because you NEVER READ my comments – right?

Still you cannot take personal ownership of WHY you didn’t understand WAS because you NEVER read my comments or watch the videos or read the files I refer too …. you say you IGNORE me and yet here you are asking some irrelevant daft question about baselines anyway in a comment I made …. WHY????

Will you make up your mind Martin? Don’t read my comments, do not look at the LINKS I offer, and ignore me completely as if I do not exist. .

Kobayashi Multitroll: “KM: …despite being up there in icy Norway with all that Oil wealth that supports your fancy EV lifestyle.”

Martin Smith : “Norway’s oil and gas income is all invested, most of it in US markets. The Norwegian government is prohibited by law from spending the income from oil and gas.”

Ouch. Way to have your ass handed to you, KM. Schmitt happens! ^* ;-)

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^*as in: Eric Schmitt, the US Senator, a poster child for hoisting himself on his own petard, not having the brain to notice it, and not having the balls to apologize to Jack Smith he accused of perjury and of being a “total dirtbag”, when it has been explained to him https://www.facebook.com/reel/2650368098734451

KM: “Reply to Nigelj living in a dream world of make believe.”

Psychological projection by KM.

KM: “Nigel Jones never looked – never clicked on the Bhatti link before – to SEE what was on the other side of those several Bhatti links I posted. That’s his doing, not mine. Plum Lazy!”

Not lazy. Not interested in KMs multiple screeds mostly consisting of AI slop. Not obliged to read them.

If you make an argument in a post I do read it needs to be self contained and include your references. It cannot assume people have read previous material you have posted. If you don’t understand that, then you are a terrible writer.

I said: “Its up to KM to show these papers debunk his claim and that especially requires showing a changing trend in southern hemisphere aerosols in recent decades….”

KM :”No it’ ain’t mate! Not when the ONLY thing I said was “The biases now seem to be showing up as permanent blind spots. SO2 is not the only aerosol in play-changes are acting across both hemispheres; over land and water!”

What? KM certainly has to refer to specific papers if he wants to be taken seriously. Saying there are changes in other aerosols across both hemisphere proves nothing and could be a lie. He has to show specific evidence by quoting credible sources and he has to show the changes support his argument. If he cant hes just wasting everyones time and is trolling.

KM actually quoted one paper the Bhatti et el paper about changes in aerosols, so this contradicts his own argument anyway. Unfortunately for KM that paper showed INCREASING levels of aerosols so clearly cant explain an increasing EEI. KM either doesn’t read the papers he quotes, or he doesn’t understand them. Honestly its quite amusing.

“It never surprised me that Nigel started out as a climate science denier. ”

Thats a lie and is just an attempt to smear me. KM is so desperate to fight back having been shown his analysis is nonsensical that he just resorts to lying. Hes done it before: For example KM claiming he never proposed that collapse was the solution. then being shown by MS his own words saying collapse is the solution. Refer last months UV page. LOL.

Pete Best: “ No I’m not a humanity deserves to die person ”

You are brushing off my question by reducing it to an extreme – when asked such an extreme question even a nihilist troll like KM may stop for a moment to think whether to answer – “yes” (it might not be smart rhetorically to out oneself by admitting it).

But since I didn’t ask KM, but you, about the sentence from your own source
“ Those who crave acceleration of climate change, need look no further than sea surface temperature. ”
neither I nor the author of these words suggested that it applies only to the people who “crave the death of humanity”, the point is much subtler:

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Piotr: “So do YOU. Pete Best, “crave” the acceleration of AGW? When you see a new piece of information confirming that things are getting worse faster – what is your first, unfiltered, emotional response

a) your ONLY reaction is: “Oh noooo, another bad news for humanity ”

b) or perhaps there is ALSO … a touch of warm satisfaction that you are being vindicated, that you were RIGHT, and your opponents were wrong. As your fellow doomer put it “ I have been telling you this for over a decade [now], but you never listen “.
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Both KM and Killian are lost causes, that’s why I don’t ask them about honest introspection but you. “Life unexamined is not worth living”, eh?

Reply to Nigelj living in a dream world of make believe.

suggetsing I should have to > include his most important reference on aerosols in that particular post!

Why repeat myself then? He’s as slow as a wet wig as usual. Lazy. Always blaming others for his own lack of common sense and eyesight.

The Bhatti links went to MULTIPLE Papers in plain view. As stated> Why not use it? There, presented in plain view was Bhatti et al. (2022, JGR; 2023, ACP; 2024, JGR) on DMS, sulfate chemistry schemes, and Antarctic ozone influences on Southern Ocean aerosols.

Nigel Jones never looked – never clicked on the Bhatti link before – to SEE what was on the other side of those several Bhatti links I posted. That’s his doing, not mine. Plum Lazy!

I only hand feed pigeons and magpies.

The desperation is telling> ” Its up to KM to show these papers debunk his claim and that especially requires showing a changing trend in southern hemisphere aerosols in recent decades.”

No it’ ain’t mate! Not when the ONLY thing I said was ::

KM: “The biases now seem to be showing up as permanent blind spots. SO2 is not the only aerosol in play-changes are acting across both hemispheres; over land and water!”

Nigel Jones doesn’t even know what MA Rodger was saying – what I said – or what he says most of the time! Snicker :-)

It never surprised me that Nigel started out as a climate science denier. Not once. He couldn’t follow a train of thought if it was super-glued to the tip of his nose! ROFL

This continues to focus on the wrong things-kind of missing the forest for the trees. Like OHC are showing a small decline (+3.36)ºC down on (+3.39ºC) a month earlier is a nothing-burger of no importance or effect.

At least saying OHC numbers are again sky-high relative to previous major El Niños is accurate and pertinent to the 26-27 super el nino and GMST globally going forward.

Framing NINO3.4 sits at +3.4ºC presents the wrong image. This would be much more accurate and relevant>> Updated: 2026-10-25 Daily Niño 3.4 was at +3.52°C (an all time record 1 week ago)

Daily Niño 3.4 set a new record at +3.52°C on 25 October—the highest since 1982—with a 30-day running average of +3.36°C, also a record. Yet Zeke forecasts an even higher Niño 3.4 peak nearer +4.00°C this December, a large increase from current levels.

The real context matters more than the hard daily numbers being relatively steady for the last fortnight around that new record high level. That 2 weeks daily data is running above the 30-day average mark.

In late Sept/early Oct the situation was > The **2026–2027 “Super” El Niño**—which rapidly intensified through mid-2026 with Niño 3.4 SST anomalies exceeding +3.0°C—has produced several remarkable weather anomalies across Australia and the broader Southern Hemisphere between June and October 2026…… the 2026 signal has been heavily modulated by background global sea surface warming, regional atmospheric troughs, and marine heatwaves.

That unusual unseasonal and reverse of normal El Nino patterns continues with large storms and flooding.

and the Niño 3.4 relative SST anomaly (+2.81 °C in early October) … the thermal baseline of the global ocean completely alters its thermodynamic and physical expression.

Now Niño 3.4 is running @ +3.4ºC to +3.5ºC — and still heading towards +4.0ºC in December

When the **Peak ONI / Niño 3.4 Anomaly** was Forecast **+2.8 °C to >+3.0 °C**

Key Takeaways from the Comparison
1. Raw Magnitude vs. Relative Anomaly:
In absolute terms, tropical Pacific water temperatures in 2026 are the warmest ever recorded. When using a **relative Niño 3.4 index** (subtracting the overall global tropical warming trend to isolate pure ENSO dynamics), 2026 still rivals 2015/16 and 1997/98, but its total sensible heat content is unmatched due to climate change.

2. Subsurface Thermal Reservoir:
The 2026 event was fueled by extraordinary downwelling Kelvin waves that pushed subsurface temperatures 10–12 °C above average between 75 m and 150 m depth. This provides a massive, persistent thermal battery feeding surface waters well into early 2027.

and so it goes. That’s the Forest of Data worth keeping in mind, if accuracy context precision and objectivity are important.

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For reference points see
16 Oct 2026 at 7:12 PM
2026-2027 El Nino: comparisons, drivers and implications
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/10/unforced-variations-oct-2026/#comment-851603

RE:> KM says 15 Oct 2026 at 6:48 PM
The regime shift isn’t coming, it’s already here. Coupled systems are decoupling across domains, and our single-system knowledge can’t see it — which means we’re flying blind into a breakdown we’ve already entered. The old rules no longer apply, and neither does the old science that assumed they would.
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/10/unforced-variations-oct-2026/#comment-851575

RE:> Additional perspectives on ENSO, 2026/2027 El Nino, Temperature warming acceleration,
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2026/10/unforced-variations-oct-2026/#comment-851582

KM: Look Up! At the preceding post that flowed into the one you quoted from.

MS: Flowed? Your writing doesn’t flow, IMO. What’s the right word? Gallop! It gallops.
So you mean the baseline that is inevitable AND unstoppable is the collapse of civilization. (Did God really create a universe where a thing can be inevitable but stoppable? Or unstoppable but not inevitable? The Lord does work in mysterious ways)

KM: …despite being up there in icy Norway with all that Oil wealth that supports your fancy EV lifestyle.

MS: Norway’s oil and gas income is all invested, most of it in US markets. So if you are living in the US, Norway’s oil wealth is supporting your economy. The Norwegian government is prohibited by law from spending the income from oil and gas. It is allowed to spend only up to 3%, which is the estimated capital gains earned each year from the sovereign fund.

Should warming continue increasing into November and December as expected with the building El Nino, it’s also quite possible 2026 could break the all-time record. The current record warmest year is 2024 at +1.60°C (±0.03°C). Zeke’s end-of-October figures put 2026 on track for +1.57°C (±0.04°C), with the year-to-date at +1.51°C — extremely close, but still uncertain.

August 2026 was +1.65°C and September +1.63°C for the month, while October jumped to a new all-time monthly record of +1.76°C. Daily temperatures have risen sharply of late, reaching as high as +1.95°C during October. In the run-up to the Nov–Dec 2023 year-end, daily anomalies hit +1.97°C and then +2.05°C. See: Top 25 Warmest Anomaly Days 1940-2026 Oct.

The year-to-date at end of October was +1.51°C. Daily Niño 3.4 set a new record at +3.52°C on 25 October—the highest since 1982—with a 30-day running average of +3.36°C, also a record. Yet Zeke forecasts an even higher Niño 3.4 peak nearer +4.00°C this December, a large increase from current levels.

The end of 2026 has the capacity to ramp temperatures even higher and faster than 2023, and the climate system looks primed to break the Nov–Dec 2023 daily anomaly records. They could be consistently above +2.05°C, possibly pushing monthly means well above October’s +1.76°C—into +2.00°C for November and +2.20°C in December. If they rise this high, the year would land closer to +1.61°C, which would be a new record.

It’s far from certain: but it is definitely possible given where we sit today.