To spend that much money because of congestion twice a day when school is in session is crazy. Limit school access for private vehicles during peak periods and that might force Muffy to either walk or ride the bus to school. If SMART SCALE money is smart it will not be wasted on this. Why do you think money can correct behavioral problems??? Traffic circles do not solve heavy traffic at peak times. The lunatics are trying to run the asylum again. Look at the mess at the square in Crozet.

As with most things – hope is not a strategy.

Still planned hoped for — still unfunded. The Old Trail/250 roundabout has been pitched for SMART SCALE money for years and never scored high enough to win. The county’s own July 2025 report says it plainly: not funded by the CTB.

Albemarle reworked it and lined it up again for Round 7, whose applications closed the first week of August. But the scores won’t even post until 2027, and the Commonwealth Transportation Board won’t lock a funding list until next summer.

Best case — if it finally wins — dirt doesn’t move until 2029 – more hope.

So: a 2-and-1 hybrid with crosswalks, $14.6 million at last count and these things only get pricier, ~12,000 cars a day through there, and a bunch of people going to the schools on foot and wheels – and a fifth trip through the scoring machine. I’ll believe it when I see the barrels.

If there is any justice in this world it will not be.

Much as I hate to agree, you’re 100% correct.

Does POTUS live in Crozet? Since Crozet never had the demographics that it now has, who should take the credit for it? Please do not blame the Developers, they are just catering to the crowd…

As I stated, you demonstrate your sanctimonious beliefs daily. Tell us Jim, where are these white supremacists and racists you repeatedly claim to be on X? Is Tim Scott? Condoleezza Rice, Thomas Sowell? Larry Elder? Byron Donalds? Did you vote for Winsome Sears for governor? Or did you vote for Spanberger? We know the answer to that but does that make you a racist? Your TDS clearly indicates you believe your president is a racist. Care to share any facts to substantiate that belief?

Meanwhile, you tell us we need to eliminate cars in Albemarle Co. presumably to save the planet. Never mind what mega polluting countries (e.g. China) do.

I mention racism and white supremacy and you think of the president. Thank you.

You still continue to speak for a community that you do not even know. What facts do you have that the Crozet community presented anything. Since you will never represent me or any number of other people what you are saying has no meaning when you make false claims and the County knows it. Government changes with every election and the same for the Crozet Growth Area. Everything changes and nobody owes you anything. Try to remember that. Also, what agreement with the “residents of Crozet”? Strange I have never seen or was sent or promised anything and you have no right to say it. You only represent yourself. Everything else sounds like a NY fantasy. Any luck with your narrative when you lived up there???

Racists and White Supremacists??? And they are only online? You think that the demographics here are a fluke of nature? That people spend a fortune to move where there is nothing and complain without a serious underlying reason? It is far more subtle, but it is far from being a harmonious multicultural community than it once was. You might of came here for the opportunities that growth areas provide people in your line of work but for the rest it is a very different story…

They refuse to pay for it and are scared of losing any perceived power they think they have through an election which, would be required along with firm boundaries. They just want the demographics that they want. That did not work where they came from so are now trying it here…

You think I sound fun, great because I am! You don’t sound fun at all.

Instead you possess full blown TDS. You claim X has racists and white supremacists? Of course that is total BS, but apparently you are not intelligent enough to understand that. You should seek treatment for your TDS. Because people believe in America and its laws does not make them racist lol. Why can’t you simply have a debate without falling into the normal wacky left position of “oh you must be a racist”.

Bluesky has less than 10% of the 600,000,000 active users on X. But of course you claim they are all racist LOL.

So stop with your sanctimonious lecturing. It’s really a very poor look for you.

You sound fun.

I avoid X because I choose to not associate with racists and white supremacists; I used it for decades before the transition.

Bonus: you don’t have to read what I write on X or here.

The nice thing about opinions is that we don’t have to agree. I think cars have their place, and people riding bicycles and walking do too. We could build a community and infrastructure where they can coexist.

But for the topic at hand, again I think you are way off base. Crozet has been mismanaged for decades now. I know you want cars to disappear off the face of the earth, but it will not happen in our lifetime. I know you ride your bike a lot, it’s certainly not a safe thing to do with the windy, hilly and narrow two lane roads.

Tom –

If Crozetians really want control instead of being represented by 1 out of 5 Supervisors, we need to incorporate as a town. Simple

Think about what you are saying. Both of you moved here and have tried in one way or another to change the place. And it backfired on you. One of you thinks that you can form nonsensical committees, constantly promote to other migrants and try to run the place. The other wants to promote a lifestyle that lifelong residents have never wanted. While you do not have the same northern attitude that you are the only one that knows anything, the other has basically fled from a failed area as have most of the migrants, and basically has spewed the same narrative for years. Actually believing you were smarter than Ann who is from Connecticut and realized what you were from the start. Even the websites you mention are from people trying to gain influence and say nothing. Crozet United? Just more pure self promotion. The easiest way for affordable housing is mobile homes on 1 acre lots. But you do not want that because you are scared of the demographic shift that it would cause. Well, those people are Virginians who do the work that you do not want to do and who helped create the place you came to. To move to a beautiful area is simply not enough for you. You just want it your way and that is why this downward trend will continue until you get scared enough to move again. I keep rooting for the developers. They want to make money and leave. The traffic circle would be the monument to let future generations know who was once here…

We agree on this – “And let’s not forget the County’s failure to deliver on its promise of “Concurrent Infrastructure” to keep up with development. ”

And you ignore that several developments were developed as single family vs. the more dense attached product because the County made developing so expensive and difficult that the developers chose by right single family.

Yes, the PHA thing, well, bad. But at least we got housing out of it.

What’s been done is not working. I’d love to see solutions proposed.

Your writings also ignore the amount of work the residents of Crozet put in to ensure the future allotment of affordable housing in Crozet, starting with the first Master Plan. You ignore the fact that, as a result of the Crozet Master Plan, two new developments were built that met its criteria and included a mix of housing types, including affordable units.

As for accessory units, they were included in the original Master Plan, but very few have been built in any of the new developments. Then there was the community’s effort to work with PHA to build a mixed-use development on land they owned, but they backed out, sold the land, and we ended up with an apartment building.

As for the number of homes to be built in Crozet, I would remind you that it was the county consultants to the Crozet Master Plan who calculated the “Maximum Ideal Population of Crozet, to be 12,198, a number Crozet will now exceed by 15 to 20 percent.

And let’s not forget the County’s failure to deliver on its promise of “Concurrent Infrastructure” to keep up with development.

But if you really want to understand the failure of affordable housing in the county, go to Crozet United website and read their recent series of articles on the topic.

(Jim’s note: I edited the comment to add paragraphs)

KAL, you are in a time warp. There was no charge when the article was written in 2015. SCC granted approval of a non communicating meter fee (about $11/month) in 2024. Things change. Get the smart meter, there is no charge, and no monthly fee. It’s painless.

Jim,
Welcome to the mass platform digital world. I do not use it, but you realize that some world leaders use X. It simply mirrors our culture and current state of the world. Just learn to hold your nose and say what you want to say…