Saffron PUA: The Success Stories of a Short Ugly Pick Up Artist

The 1 Hour Pull

2008-09-16T01:53:00.003-04:00

I went to a meetup.com event tonight at a local bar. As is prone with these events, the attractiveness of girls isn't as high as the ones you'd find at the hot clubs on the weekends. But, the flipside is that the barrier to approach is much lower and the bitch shields are not on full blast. Also, the guys are mostly chodes.

But, sometimes you strike gold when you're least expecting it. When I walked in, I locked eyes with Victoria. She had silky long hair, a smile lingering with dimples, and a svelte body. As is always the case, there was some chode sitting right next to her, trying to talk her ear off, and I could tell by her body language that she was just being nice.

Realizing the energy of the venue, I came in with a very low key opener -- any flashy attraction material would be out of place.

Acting with no apologies, I walked over and said calmly,

"This is my first time here. I'm Saffron. "
"Hi, I'm Vanessa"
"Hi, I'm Chodey McChode."

I go straight into a topical transition about the venue and talk about how I recently just moved into town. She picked up the thread and we soon were talking about how she was from Japan.

"I hate Japan. Let me tell you why." -- I didn't disagree for the sake of disagreeing -- I just spoke my mind freely.

I went off, and she started arguing with me in a playful way. I verbally escalated and started talking about other commonalities that we had. We talked about our adventures, our goals, and things we liked to do for fun. We were deep into comfort.

About 30 minutes passed, and I mentioned an extraction excuse -- come check out this great restaurant near me. They serve some great late night food. She agreed and we left the venue.

We went to my house first to drop off her stuff -- this was key, because I knew that she would have to come back after we ate.

We headed out and I built more comfort at the restaurant--we talked about our childhoods, our drunk times, and our past relationships. We bounced backed to my place and went into my room. I looked at her silently, maintaining the silence for 10 seconds, then went in for the makeout.

It was a quick escalation, and then I threw her onto my bed. She started giving me LMR -- so I comforted her by telling her how much I valued her personality, how we were going to hang out tomorrow, and how it was her fault for turning me on so much.

Then I went right back into it. I escalated and clothes started flying off, but as if I was in some kind of terrible romantic comedy, her phone rings and her friend tells her that he's downstairs to pick her up. Apparently, this AFC was her personal driver and she texted him in the restaurant, expecting that she was heading home after the late night snack.

"Sorry. It's not going to happen tonight. You're going to have to wait until next time" she teased me.

"I wait for no one." I replied. "But, I still want to see you tomorrow, because you're a cool chick."

I walked her out and watched her get into the car.

Logistics are key to the SNL. If I had 10 more minutes of game time, the score might have ended up different, but you have to love the game because there are always new challenges to face.

Internet Outage and Self-Improv

2008-08-15T21:56:00.001-04:00

I've just settled into my NYC apartment and have been without internet for about a month. It's weird to be so out of touch with the world, but I have gained a better sense of peace and self-reflection during this month. In this time, I decided to pick up some of my older books and came across this great passage from Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends & Inlfuence Pople -- a timeless classic and a msut read. Here's an excerpt I found particularly illuminating and applicable to pickup about one of Wall Street's most successful financiers, who had little formal schooling:

"For years I have kept an engagement book showing all the appointments I had during the day. My family never made any plans for me on Saturday night, for the family knew that I devoted a part of each Saturday evening to the illuminating process of self-examination and review and appraisal. After dinner I went off by myself, opened my engagement book, and thought over all the interviews, discussions and meetings that had taken place during the week. I asked myself:

"What mistakes did I make that time?"
"What did I do that was right -- and in what way could I have improved my performance?
"What lessons can I learn from that experience"

"I often found that this weekly review made me very unhappy. I was frequently astonished at my own blunders. Of course, as the years passed, these blunders became less frequent. Sometimes I was inclined to pat myself on the back a little after one of these sessions. This system of self-analysis, self-education, continued year after year, did more for me than any other one thing i have ever attempted.

It helped me improve my ability to make decisions--and it aided me enormously in all my contacts with people. I cannot recommend it too highly." (Carnegie, xxiv)

This is a practice that every asipiring PUA should go through when going over his sarges every night. Keep a list of things that you've done right, things that you've done wrong, and action steps towards improvement. This may be the best singular piece advice I can give out to all the guys who are looking for fast results. Success comes with hard work and the ability to tell yourself the truth: "this is what I suck at" and I am commited to being better at it. You should make at least two seperate introspective lists:

(1) After every night of going out -- a blog-like list of your interactions and bullet points on the good and bad of the sarge
(2) At the end of every week -- make a collective assessment form a macro-view and see what you could improve on in the larger sense.

My internet will be up and running shortly, with that will be coming an onslaught of LR's and fun stories for you guys. Stay posted!

Pick Up From the Female View

2008-07-09T12:18:00.002-04:00

Slightly racist, and mostly reflective of AFCs....just shows you how low the bar is and how you just need to take that small step to differentiate yourself from the norm.

And no, I don't just smile and open my eyes really big. I also say "hey baby, hey baby..."

One Night Stands

2008-07-03T22:14:00.007-04:00

On a whim, I wikipedia'd One Night Stands. In the article, I found this snippet very, very interesting:

During sex females get such a strong dose of oxytocin that "when women think they can have sex and walk away just like guys do, they're having to suppress thousands of years of evolution that tells them to cuddle, stay in bed, and look forward to tomorrow. When they get up and walk out, they feel depressed and don't know why."[1] Researchers have found that women's feelings after one night stands are much more negative than men's. Feeling 'used' was the predominent negative emotion they felt the next morning and they also worried about their reputations and felt as if they had let themselves down. Professor Anne Campbell from Durham University said "What the women seemed to object to was not the briefness of the encounter but the fact that the man did not seem to appreciate her. The women thought this lack of gratitude implied that she did this with anybody."[2]

A lot of guys think that once they slept with a woman, their work is all over. For all the PUAs out there who wonder why they can't keep quality women around in their life, I'd take a second and ask yourself how you treat women AFTER sex. I'm a firm believer of the ethos "Leave Them Better Than When You Met Them." How do you do that? By appreciating her for something other than her physical appearance and her sexuality. There's nothing wrong with being direct and forward, but there will be a point in your life where you realize that sexuality is only the minimum requirement -- you are attracted to a woman because you appreciate who she is and what her personality is like.

Now that you appreciate her, the question becomes, how do you best show it? The Mystery Method talks a lot about qualification (a method where you elicit a girl's values and then reward her for having them). For me, it really is about authenticity. I simply show enthusiasm for traits that I cherish. And if she has traits that I don't respect, I will let her know that too. By doing both, you show her that you're not just supplicating and you also show her that you're a man of values. There's something to be said about being honest and straightforward in your interactions with women.

Ultimately, making a girl realize that you appreciate her BEFORE you sleep with her, will make the entire process easier, before and after sex. I view sex as a positive interaction, so if a girl walks away feeling negative about the interaction, I know that I seriously screwed up somewhere.

Pitfalls of Pickup

2008-06-30T16:05:00.003-04:00

My good friend Toryn from the Boston Lair wrote one of the best posts I've read in a while and I had to post it here for you guys to read. Tons of value, so pull up some popcorn and plop yourself down and read this. I'll be honest, I've made some of the same mistakes too and struggle with my own ideals and the ideals that are commonly engrained in the community. Toryn is going to put up a blog soon, and I'll be sure to link him on my page, so you guys can get a daily dose of his wisdom.

Anyway, here it goes:

Learning pick-up has had so many positive effects on my life, including realizing new heights in my own self-confidence; understanding how to better interact in high-pressure social situations; and more and more understanding how to own my sexuality and desire around attractive women. And this is only a small bit of what I’ve learned since starting this process. As Groove noted in his Lair talk, this stuff can really change your life for the better if you allow it to do so.

All that being said, the more time I spend in the pick-up community, the more I become convinced that there are potentially serious pitfalls in each stage of learning these skills as well, which can do dangerous harm to your ability to form lasting and valuable relationships with women. The core questions that I've been grappling with recently, and that I try to address in this post, are these:

* Which aspects of learning pick-up are actually diminishing or degrading my ability to form a trusting and mutually-fulfilling relationship with a woman?
* How can I avoid these pitfalls so that I'm constantly moving forward in my social and emotional evolution?

I understand that not everyone will find this e-mail relevant right now. Some guys will be at stages in their emotional development where a lot of the things that I’m talking about below are just not on their radar screen yet. If that’s your case, that’s cool – I’d still recommend that you read on and think for a moment about the points that I’m trying to make here.

Pitfall #1: Objectifying Women

This one seems pretty obvious to me, so I’m not going to waste too much time talking about it. Yes, women are naturally the objects of our sexual desire, and yes, until you approach and get to know a new girl, she’s nothing more than a random attractive stranger. But when an entire community starts referring to people in code words such as HB8_Slut, the “target”, the “obstacle”, etc., you start to lose recognition of the fact that you’re talking about another human being.

Rating girls’ attractiveness on a scale has some value in terms of how you calibrate your approach and initial game material. Referring to girls as the “target” or “obstacle” has some value in terms of understanding the dynamics of a group set, especially when wings are involved. But in my opinion, once you’ve internalized these ideas into your behavior, get these labels out of your head as soon as possible, and save them for Field Reports or other times when you need them to discuss the mechanics of a set you ran. Don’t go through life thinking about every attractive girl you see as an HB# or as your “target.”

It’s been proven over and over again by psychological studies that one of the first steps in dehumanizing someone is to objectify them, to strip them in your mind of the qualities that would make you relate to them as another living, breathing person just like yourself. That girl who you’re interested in? At the end of the day she’s just a girl, with dreams, hopes, fears and ambitions just like you. Lose sight of that, and you lose part of what makes you human.

Pitfall #2: Focusing on “Padding Your Stats”

I went through a phase in the first few weeks after realizing my initial successes getting laid through game, and most guys who I’ve met in the community go through a similar phase. We have this feeling that can only be described as a sense of wonderment at our new powers with women. For those of us who weren’t born naturals, we’ve had years of frustration at screwing up with attractive women because we weren’t self-confident and socially experienced enough. Then pick-up skills give us that power, and we now feel that we’re more in control, that we’re no longer at the mercy of one beautiful girl’s opinion of us. It’s an intoxicating emotion, and for good reason.

You can see this intoxicating feeling reflected in guys’ posts on the forum. The first few Lay Reports that newer guys post up usually have this over-arching aura of “Oh my God, I can’t believe I actually accomplished this!” to them. During this stage when you’re realizing your first few successes, I think this feeling of wonderment is pretty much all positive. You’re rapidly gaining in self-confidence in an area that has plagued you for a while (you wouldn’t be in the community if it hadn’t), and you feel like a new man. All is good in the world.

Pretty soon however, the natural question arises of “What next?” Sure, there are always new skills to calibrate and internalize, new levels of inner game mastery to reach – but a lot of guys remain detached from what their true core goals are with learning all of this stuff. And when they become detached from their true core goals, they naturally fill that void with the goal of “Well, I want to bang as many hot girls as possible” or some variant (“have a threesome,” “fuck Asian twins”).

And so begins the danger of seeking external validation through sex. If you continue to neglect the other areas of your life which aren't together, you start to subconsciously look at getting laid as evidence that you are indeed the high-value, self-confident guy that you tell yourself you are. And when you think you’ve got a girl on the path to bed, but it doesn’t work out? Crash and burn inner game-wise my friends, and it hurts.

But here’s the thing: the guys I know who are truly secure in their own self-confidence and value aren’t overly concerned with whether they have ten women in the rotation at the same time or none. If they meet a girl who they’re attracted to, who they connect with and who they want to start a sexual relationship with, they do it. But if they go through a period where they aren’t meeting women who truly excite them, they don’t start to feel down or inferior because of it.

Again, this issue isn’t necessarily appropriate to every guy in the Lair right now, especially those guys who are younger. It very well may be that your goal at this stage of your life is to bang as many hot girls as possible with zero emotional connection, and that’s fine. It all comes down to whether your true core inner goals and desires and your outer behavior are in synch. Also, it’s good to understand that many guys’ life goals with women evolve over time, so it probably would be worthwhile to check in with yourself every few months to make sure that you’re still living according to your core goals.

Pitfall #3: Closing Yourself off to Emotion

You’ve done a ton of approaches, you’ve slept with some women, and now you’ve met one who you really connect with and who you like hanging out with. But every time that she tries to get you to open up to her emotionally, community dogma kicks back in. “Push-pull…control the frame…showing vulnerability is for chodes…one-itis is for pussies…an ‘alpha’ guy wouldn’t do this…”

A lot of the dogma that is good for breaking you free from your original fears approaching strange women in high-stress social situations can turn out to be crap when you relate it to relationships. Entropy is 1,000% correct when he says that relationships are a component of relating to women that on average the community has ass-backwards, and really doesn’t give nearly enough attention to. You think a girl is amazing? Tell her. She tells you about her deepest hopes and fears in life, and wants you to share yours with her as well? If you care about her, do it. Real men (edit: real PEOPLE) are not scared of their own emotions.

It all relates back to living with integrity and honesty. If you don’t care about a girl, you should be honest with her if she asks you. If you don’t care about her and you tell her that you really do, you’re a pussy. If you do have emotions for her, but you either tell her that you don’t or refuse to show them, you’re also a pussy.

But if you have emotions for a girl and you let yourself express them, that’s when the best moments in life can happen.

Pitfall #4: Making It All about the Sex

This is my new favorite, and it took me a while to identify and diagnose this in myself and in some of my Lair friends. Bear with me on this one, because I can’t seem to find a simple way to explain what I mean here.

You meet a girl, sleep with her, turn her into a regular thing, bond with her and genuinely care about her and her happiness in life, and things are going great. Then after a few months (it usually happens in this timeframe), the girl may come to you emotionally raw explaining that she’s starting to fall in love with you and just can’t do an open relationship any more, and that she wants to commit to you and to try being exclusive with each other.

But instead of committing, you get scared, and you begin thinking of reasons to tell her no. And what I’ve found both in myself and my friends is that more often than not we use the issue of sex as the primary reason to turn down exclusive relationships with really quality women. “I can’t be with just one girl, I want to consistently fuck new girls…she isn’t interested in having threesomes like we used to…I need variety in my sex life.” And on and on.

What I and the rest of guys who think this way are doing however is elevating sex above all of the other areas of compatibility that make good relationships with quality women really great. To an extent we’re ignoring whether the girl truly makes us happy, whether she challenges and excites us intellectually and emotionally, whether sharing with her feels like sharing with an old friend you’ve known forever.

A decision to not get exclusive with a girl based on sexual compatibility isn’t necessarily a bad thing or wrong in isolation. And per my comment above, it’s totally acceptable and understandable if a guy is not in the position in his life at this time where he wants a relationship at all. The problem has the potential to arise over time however, because the decisions you make in life form habits, and if you start consistently thinking about your relationships with women in this light, you could wind up making some very stupid choices.

I don’t mean to downplay sexual compatibility here either – it’s very important. But in my experience, after the first several months of hormone-driven craziness subside, the sexual health of a relationship exists because you and she stay connected on all other emotional and spiritual levels, not in spite of those connections.

The dirty secret that for some reason the community never talks about is that while it is absolutely true that attractive women are abundant, the number of attractive women in life with whom you will also feel a strong emotional, intellectual and spiritual connection as well are very few. Life being what it is, even if you sarge constantly, there will only be so many women who you are as excited about spending Sunday morning with as you were about fucking the previous Saturday night.

If finding a girl who will always be willing to have threesomes with you really is one of your core priorities in life, more power to you. But the girls who will be genuinely cool with this type of behavior are rare. It is the rule rather than the exception for a girl to want you to herself once she’s fallen in love with you. And more to the point, the girls who are cool with threesomes are not necessarily the ones who will satisfy you as well in the many other emotional, spiritual and intellectual areas that make a relationship lasting and great. And in the meantime, if you next all women who don’t fit the “threesome” category, you could very well wind up passing on women who really would have made you happier over the long run – all because you put sex above everything else.

Pizza Pickup

2008-06-26T13:50:00.005-04:00

So, I'm taking summer classes at a local university and my goal is to get a #close every day of class. I'm doing this as research for College Game as well as an inherent desire to build a stronger social circle. I just wrapped up lunch and #closed a hottie at a pizza store. Here's how it went down:

Me: Is this seat taken? (I pointed to the empty table next to her -- I didn't really have to ask...I could've just sat down, but I will use really plain everyday things to break the ice.)

Jane: No.

Me: Great. (I set my stuff down) I'm heading up there -- do you need napkins or anything? (Banter -- this was a silly question, since the counter was like 10 feet away, but my goal is to make things fun right off the bat)
Jane: [giggles] No, I'm good.

[I grab utensils and a coke and then return to the table -- at this point I've already engaged her twice...now to move on to comfort]

Me: So you look like you're a student. Are you taking classes here too? [observational cold read]
Jane: Oh, no. I'm actually working for a professor in the X department.
Me: Oh really? I took classes in that department. Which professor? [establishing a commonality]
Jane: Professor Y.
Me: Oh yea, I know Professor Y. [I go into a story about his class that I was in and ground myself by mentioning how I was a student]
Jane: No way! That's crazy. I hope he's not like that all the time.
Me: Well, you better be on your best behavior then. Don't be a trouble maker. [Attraction -- Light Banter]
Jane: I'm not making you any promises. I actually just came from the West Coast to work here. The weather here is terrible.
Me: Yea, I know. I'm originally from NYC and it's no where near as bad. [slight DHV]
Jane: Oh really? How is NYC?
Me: [DHV story about NYC -- clubbing, promoting, etc...]
Jane: Wow, thats awesome. I just moved here so I don't even know whats fun.
[More comfort building -- we talk about her goals, her plans, where she lives, etc...]
Me: Well, tell you what, I'm going to need a lunch buddy from time to time. Let's keep in touch.
Jane: Sounds great.

#close.

Success!: The Bling Got Me LAID.

2008-06-25T14:13:00.004-04:00

Success!

The Teddy Bear of Tremendous Glory Got Me LAID. I was being semi-facetious when I made my post last night before I went out, BUT now I am a firm believer. I'm not going to write up a full LR about it, since I didn't run uber-crazy game, but here are the details -- Entropy and I rolled up to the Venue at 11:30. I made sure to start being social once I got out of my car. I made friends with the promoter, a group of six girls on line (who were pulled away from me and ushered into the club by a different promoter) and an equally blinged out Jamaican guy.

After I got into the club, Entropy and I made the rounds. We hit up the bar and did a shot. I opened every attractive set near me. When I go clubbing, my goal is to open every girl, build short amounts of attraction, make a really positive impression, then move on. I will then reopen a girl later that night when her BT is high and swoop in for the kill. I found a two-set on the middle of the dance floor. I zone in and tell her "you are absolutely fucking adorable -- but, did you run over a cheetah yourself to make that dress?" -- instant BT spiked. She laughed and we started grinding.

Here comes the Teddy Bear of Glory. I pull her to the bar and we do shots. She sees my teddy bear and LIGHTS UP. She has this grin on her face and tells me how ridiculously cute it is. I laugh, and I tell her to kiss it. She does. We make out. Then true to my word, I dip the bear between her boobs and she starts laughing. She starts jiggling her fantastic boobs in front of me, while my chain dangles between them and I cop a feel. She LOVES it.

Anyway, I split to find Entropy. I wanted to open a few more sets because I'm always looking for the best logistics at a venue. I walk up to the VIP section and I see the blinged out Jamaican guy. He pulls me into VIP. Nice. I walk around and befriend a group of girls with a table and get a free shot. Even Nicer. I stand on top of the VIP stage and start grinding with a girl in front of the entire club. Pure Social Proof.

The girl from before sees me and beckons me to come down from the VIP section. I leave and we grind some more. She yells at me for being a player and playfully smacks my chest. I know she loves it. Soon enough, closing time rolls around. I'm about to leave with this girl when the 6-set from the line walks by. They ALL start smiling at me and one girl said "We all saw you dancing tonight and we think that you're HOT." I start walking closer to them until the girl I ended up with comes over and grabs me by the elbow and physically pulls me away. Hah, she was cockblocking me from other girls. I love it.

We meet up with Entropy and we drive back to his place. Entropy wings her friend and I pull the girl into his roommate's airbed (sorry Mr. Awesome) and we go at it. She gets dressed and they go home. Thank You, Teddy Bear of Destiny.

Field Testing the Bling

2008-06-24T22:26:00.005-04:00

Fuzzy top hats and LED belts are out. Bling Bling is the new peacock - it's classier and its scientifically proven that girls like shiny things. Thats probably why Doc Holliday pierced his junk.

I'm heading out to one of the top venues in my city tonight. Pure, loud dance floor game -- its industry night, so all the hot hired guns will be there. I'm testing out my newest piece of fashion -- the ridiculously bling, bling.

Can I pull it off? Let's see. I'm going to field test it tonight and will be back in real time to tell you its successes. My thoughts:

(1) If I can get a girl to kiss the bling, I can get her to make out with me
(2) If I can get a girl to put it in her cleavage, I can feel her up
(3) If I can get a girl put the bling down the girl's pants, I'm going all the way...and I'll probably never see the bling ever again.

Dance Floor Game Deconstructed

2008-06-16T09:59:00.004-04:00

Do NOT run up to a girl from behind and just start grinding on her.

Sure, it might have worked for you in the past, and it might still work for you in the future, BUT, it's still the weakest type of dance floor game. Let's break down the right method of dance floor game, but before I do that, let me give you some personal background.

I've been running Dance Floor game in NYC clubs since the age of 15, and I used to get rejected all the time, because of what I believed to be "racism" and "looks disqualification." Believing that girls will reject you just based on your looks is a limiting belief. What I used to do wrong was that I used to go out to the clubs and run up behind an attractive girl on the dance floor and start grinding on her. I've probably done this to at least 1,000 sets.

At that point, the girls ONLY judged me on my looks. They would slowly turn around and size me up and down. They'd see that I was shorter than them and not the most attractive guy and I got so experienced at this that I could pinpoint the exact millisecond where they decided to blow me out. This method uses 0 game. The girls only cared about how physically attractive I was.

They have nothing else to go by -- you're doing the same thing all other guys are doing, plus its considered by some girls to be very, very creepy. So, unless, you're exactly her type or ridiculously good looking, you're going to get blown out. There's no game to that.

After successive years of back-to-back rejections I retooled my dance floor game and now I grind with hot, beautiful models, strippers, and sorority girls all the time. I definitely didn't get any taller or better looking, so I'd chalk it up to a new style of dance floor game.

For more advanced level dance floor game, here is what I believe are the fundamental ways to do a dance floor pull. If you read my Vegas Double SNL LR, you can read how I did 2 dance floor pulls to a fclose from 2 Vegas clubs in one night.

1) Social Proof - Social Proof in Clubs is especially important. Being seen with groups of girls, promoters, and high value people will raise your social proof. You can learn how to build social proof by using pivots, increasing your passive value, and creating mini social circles. When I enter a club, I enter a set immediately -- I never want to be the solo guy standing creepily at the bar with a drink in his hand. In a club I'm always in set or approaching sets.

2) Energy State - This is what "Being The Party" means. You're the guy in the club having the most fun and you draw people into your party. I have girls come up behind me and grind on me because they know that "I'm The Party." I get opened all the time by women on the dance floor. There is a big difference in Being a Dancing Monkey and Being the Party. You can work on this through learning state pumps, fixing your inner game, and augment it with dance classes. The guy that gets the most attention at the club ISN'T the one who dances the best, but rather the one who is the most high energy and seems to have the most FUN.

3) Advanced Openers - I've been developing a set of advanced openers and dance floor tips and tactics that reframe the interaction as a challenge and create immediate attraction. You can't run "Who Lies More" on the dance floor, because its too loud and the girls are too ADD, but you can learn powerful openers that can instantly hook the set and draw you in on the dance floor. To work on your own openers, you must ask yourself, what can I say in the shortest amount of time to get a girl laughing? Another great way to open is to use what I call a "Booty Bump." You just go up to a girl and side bump her booty with your ass, like you're teasing her and then transition off of it. You have to make it FUN.

4) Dominance - Being dominant on the dance floor is a powerful subcommunication trait that conveys confidence and sexuality. You can learn more dominance through fixing inner game issues, frame control, and social calibration. Dominance is conveyed in everything you do in a dance club, from opening and approaching girls to twirling them around on the dance floor. One of the ways that I show dominance is by walking up into the MIDDLE of a set and pulling the girls into me as a I tease them.

Now, how do you bring this all together? Well, first rule is to get to the venue EARLY. You want to be there when the doors open -- trust me it's the easiest time to sarge a loud club. Social groups haven't formed and everyone starts off with the same amount of proof.

You walk into a venue and open the first set you see, be it a mixed set, lone wolf or a large bachelorette party. You HAVE TO BE FUN. Pump up your energy state and open the set with a fun party opener. Do NOT use "who lies more." Get the girls to start laughing.

Now, you have to be dominant and pull in your target. Banter with her and pump up her buying temperature. Twirl her around and grind on her. Use her as social proof. Drag her onto the dance floor and have FUN. Use her either to forward merge into another set with hotter girls or stick with her to escalate. Build short comfort with her and then drag her to another part of the venue to isolate and escalate.

Ultimately, I believe that dance floor game is one of the hardest places for a beginner to sarge in, but if you can master dance floor game, you've tapped into a very target-rich resource that is primed for SNLs and ridiculously quick kino escalation. Happy Sarging!

LR: Dance Floor Dominance with HBDouble Ds (SNL)

2008-06-12T08:42:00.005-04:00

She was 5'5" and stacked with Double Ds. Her body was the perfect hourglass, curvy and tight, drawing stares from every guy in the club. She worked in physical fitness. I'm not really a superficial person, but the second she ran her hands down my pants on the dance floor, all I could imagine was what it was like to rest my head on her delicious body. We were grinding on each other in sync, mixing our sweat and saliva. I pulled her in and smelled the sweet scent of sexuality.

I'm sure you heard, but I'm not a good looking guy or very tall. However, I was able to pull this amazing half-Greek, half-Brazilian back to her house and watch the glorious effects of physics work on the beautiful curves of her figure by focusing on high attraction dance floor game and rapid kino escalation takeaways.

Let's rewind.

I walked into the club yesterday and I could barely hear myself think. The music was on full blast and there wasn’t a single place in the club to hold a conversation. I knew that the indirect opinion opener would be useless and I could forget about using a protector of loved ones DHV. I had to supercharge the fundamentals of attraction.

I was at the loudest venue in my city because it was the only party on a Tuesday night and I had to coach a student. It felt comfortable to me because I have been working clubs for almost a decade now, but tonight I was focused on work, not pleasure. After opening a couple of sets, we walked around the club and he asked me to demo. I turned around and scanned the bar. A smoking hot girl was walking right past me to peer on the dance floor. She was wearing only a corset and shorts, barely containing her busty body. I instinctively pulled her in.

"If you can't see the dance floor, I can pick you up and you can sit on my shoulder," I teased.

Bianca* laughed. "You're funny. No, no, I'm just looking for my friend."

"Well, I'll let you stand here, as long as you tell me where you got that ridiculous corset from. Was it Baby Gap?"

She laughed again and was hooked. From then on, I kept my conversation to the minimum, with only short introductions and simple statements. I peered over her shoulder to see that my student was in set with her friend. Nice.

I started dancing with Bianca right next to the bar. We got there early so we were the only couple grinding passionately by the dance floor. I used her to build rapid social proof, which was key in such a loud environment.

I started slowly pumping Bianca's buying temperature by doing rapid sexual escalation takeaways. I pulled on her hair and bit her neck. I lifted her up and executed the lower back pain. I closed in on an almost kiss and then pushed away. I made her chase me. I coupled the sexual escalation with quick banter, “you’re not getting lucky tonight,” “you really have to stop thinking about raping me—it’s illegal in this state.”

After pumping her buying temperature, I built some short intense comfort and ran my clubbing stack on her—really deep, short stories packed with sexual framing. It was too loud to say anything else.

"You know, I'm really passionate about making women happy. I like it when you smile like that, because I know I'm doing something right. "

At the height of her attraction for me, I ejected—it was still early on in the night, and if I wanted to pull her, I had to maintain attraction until logistics were better. The bathrooms were guarded by big gorilla security men and it was obvious the girls weren’t ready to be pulled.

We ran around opening more sets with success—the social proof built on the dance floor definitely helped elevate our status in the club. I made sure to open a set close to Bianca so that I could build a jealously plotline. She watched as we opened and hooked other sets.

Afterwards, she made a snide remark about how fast I worked, and how she saw me gaming other girls. I shrugged it off and spanked her. “That’s what you get for spying.” I checked my watch and saw that it was about 45 minutes away from closing time. We already opened about 12 sets, so I figured it’d be prime time to try and pull.

When I reentered the set, I could see that she had been waiting for me to come back all night. She observed me gaming and was visibly turned on. I started doing rapid kino escalation takeaways again. We moved to the back of the dance floor and she gave me a booty dance. I pulled her in, tugged on her hair and bit her neck. Triangle Gazing. Instant Makeout.

She was so turned on by then that she put her hands down my pants, right on the dance floor. I didn’t even have to guide her for the dance floor HJ – she went straight for it. I looked over and saw my student quickly following suit, biting the back of his girl’s neck. He twirled her. They started making out too. Nice—his first ever in-club makeout.

The club lights came on. It was closing time. I knew that the only thing standing in between me and this SNL was logistics. I was wrong.

She went to the bathroom with her friend and told me explicitly to wait for her outside the bathroom. As they walked out I took Bianca’s hand, but AMOGs started swooping in from all directions. Huge, very aggressive Latin and Black guys were trying to blow me out of set. I heard them say,

“What’re you doing with this little guy? I’m twice the man he is…,” “Hey Baby, baby, baby, I got a BMW and I’ll take care of you…,” “[Random Spanish phrases with the words Chinito sprinkled in]”

Luckily dealing with AMOGs has become a personal specialty, since everyone fucks with the little Asian guy. I blocked them out of the sets with my body and stayed dominant but unreactive. When we got outside, Bianca’s friend wandered off to get a cigarette and once again AMOGs swopped in. Same shit, different people.

I already developed a pretty deep rapport with Bianca, so she blew off the guys herself. “Sorry guys, this is my boyfriend. Yea, he’s Asian, so what. He’s more man than you’ll ever be.” Fuck, I love independent women.

After about 15 minutes of getting AMOGged by at least 6 different guys, I had to physically pull Bianca’s friend out of set with these hyper-aggressive guys. In these situations, you HAVE to be dominant. The four of us walked to her car. As I reached the car, Bianca and I realized we lost her friend. I turned around and saw my student making out with her in an alleyway. Awesome. I pulled Bianca in, lifted her onto the hood of her car and started making out too.

She drove me back to pick up my car. Unfortunately for my student, his girl had to wake up early in the morning and was a bit too drunk, so Bianca dropped her home. During this time, I debriefed him and then met up with Bianca after the dropoff and followed her back to her place. There was no LMR--just pure, raw, unadulterated sex. The second we got through the door of her house, clothes started flying off. I lifted her and did another lower back pain. I ripped her corset right off and ran my hands along her tight body. She had the most beautiful natural rack that I’ve ever seen, and for a second I teared up just thinking about the naughty things I was about to do to her.

I cavemanned her to the bedroom and plopped her onto the bed. I had to pause for a second, just to take in the beautiful sight before me, as her perfectly shaped breasts parted like the Red Sea. I dived right in. God, I fucking love the game.

*Personal information has been changed to protect anonymity

Busy Week & Innovasian

2008-06-08T16:48:00.006-04:00

Wow, these past few weeks have been busy. I've had to make a major lifestyle shift, so I've been busy tackling everything one-by-one. In my off time I've been working on articles on the topics that I posted about in an earlier post. Stay tuned for that.

Being stuck in Boston actually worked out very well, since I've had a chance to coach with Sinn and El Topo. These guys need no introduction and are unquestionably the real deal. Great instructors and great guys. The thing about Sinn that blows me away is his amazing ability to almost instantly figure out a student's sticking point just within a couple of minutes watching him in set. You can just tell that his breadth of experience teaching and sarging is unmatched.

El Topo has this amazing skill on being able to connect with anyone. This isn't the first time I hung out with him, but its the first time we've been out together, and man, his routine stacks are powerful.

I'll be in NYC next weekend with Johnny Wolf for the ABC of Attraction Certified Bootcamp: More Information Here.

For those that haven't met Johnny, he's a monster in the field. He has an incredible ability to hook every set that he meets, and can lead very high value women around in a venue. But, actions speak louder than words, so check out his Infamous Cold Approach Threesome.

Innovasian Series: The Shot Shock Opener

I'm always running out there, trying out new openers and material. I've decided to call this the Innovasian Series. These are always field-tested, mother-approved.

Sometimes you find yourself leaning against the bar, hanging out in between sets. While you stand there, hot girls will sometimes come up right next to you to place their order at the bar. You stand there, trying to quickly thing of a witty thing to say. Well, here is THE witty thing:

[smile] "So, have you decided what drink you're going to buy me yet?"
-> She will most likely respond with a confused, what? Sometimes, she will shit test you.
-> Just hold the frame. Regardless of what they say, you can follow up with, "Don't think too hard. You don't want to hurt yourself. I'm a very simple drinker, so shots will do just fine."

Then transition: "So when you're not busy seducing random men by buying them drinks, what do you do with your free time?"

Reminder: This interaction is supposed to be FUN.

If she ignores you, your delivery is off. Make sure you're leaning comfortably against the bar, looking at the crowd. Make sure that she HEARS what you're saying and speak as if its a matter of fact. Happy Sarging.

Qualify, Ground, DHV, then stack forward.

Male Psychology: Why We're Born to Be AFCs

2008-05-23T17:42:00.003-04:00

I've been reading some books on Evolutionary Psychology and I stumbled across this in the chapter on Women's Long-Term Mating Strategies. Some very, very interesting stuff, which I'll probably make a much longer post on in the future. Here's some food for thought:

"Mere exposure to an attractive woman activates a cascade of psychological processes in men, such that they place greater value on the qualities that women want (resources, ambition) and describe themselves as possessing those qualities."

Many studies document exactly this. In studies of tactics of attraction, men are more likely than women to display resources, talk about their professional successes, flash money, drive expensive cars, and brag about their accomplishments (Buss, 1998b; Schmitt & Buss 1996).

When men derogate their competitors, they use tactics such as indicating that a rival is poor, lacks ambition and is unlikely to succeed professionally. (Buss & Dedden, 1990). [Natural AMOGing?]

In studies of deception tactics, men are more likely than women to inflate their status, prestige, and income to potential mates. (sounds obvious - but interesting to read from a scientific prospective)

This raises interesting issues on being seen as a "Provider" vs. the "Sex-Worthy Man." To be honest, I sometimes instinctively start to DHV about my Provider status and have to stop myself. Being a sex worthy man was a significant goals of mine, and I'll start a post detailing on how to place yourself closer into that category.

Upcoming Post Ideas

2008-05-21T18:51:00.004-04:00

So I probably spend at least 10 hours out of the 18 conscious hours in a day thinking about pickup. I read all the forums, attempt to keep up with the backlog of videos/books/posts so I can have as complete of an understanding of the theories available as possible. When I cross the street, I'm thinking about PU. When I shower, I think about PU. Sometimes, even when I'm having sex, I think about PU. It might very well be an OCD disease, BUT, you guys are the beneficiaries, because I get new ideas everyday to post about. I just don't have the time, because I try to make my posts as detailed, thorough, and well-written as possible. So, as somewhat of a teaser, I want to put out my future post ideas. Feel free to leave a comment if you think would like to see me write one of these posts, sooner rather than later. It will change the order that I type them up:

(1) Finish off the "I'm just Not Really Into You" Series: A full analysis of sexual self-disqualification, teasing, push-pull, Body Language takeaways, prize re-framing, and more...)

(2) Different student archetypes: Having taught 100+ students, I have realized that students form into specific archetypes with specific sticking points. In every bootcamp there's always a natural who doesn't recognize his abilities and an introvert, who requires a different type of approach. This post will be meant to help you in your own sticking point analysis.

(3) Deconstructing Saffron: I'll cover my transition from being a semi-successful natural -- what made me successful and what made me suck -- and how I learned community theory to patch the holes in my game to double my success rate in less than 3 months.

(4) Seize Your City: I WILL be posting my game plan in probably a week and keep a journal about how to own a city. I'm moving soon and I plan on building a complete new social circle that is both wide and deep. My goal is to be invited to all the A-list events in less than 6 months.

(5) LR Backup: I've had a handful of new experiences that I've just been too busy to write up.

(6) Passions and Accelerated Comfort: A how-to guide on making a deep, meaningful connection with a woman

(7) Pick Up and Morals: I have a lot of thoughts on this, but I think there are some moral standards that PUAs should abide by. The skills that we learn should come with great responsibility and we should retain a respect for women.

Leave a comment if you're interested in seeing a particular post written sooner, rather than later.

Ex-Porn

2008-05-20T22:14:00.003-04:00

Not Pick Up related. I just find this amusing as hell. Visit http://exporn.blogspot.com/ for more pictures. These picture used to be porn...and now is...art?

Another TV Alpha Male: Chuck Bass

2008-05-20T20:10:00.003-04:00

First off, yes, I enjoy watching Gossip Girl. I grew up preppy, so its nostalgic of the past for me, to watch kids with money screw up their lives. Feel free to judge me.

But I digress. Chuck Bass is as asshole on the show. Even worse, he starts off the show with very questionable moral standards and comes off as skeevy. BUT, as the show develops his character becomes fuller and he becomes more likable.

Regardless, Chuck Bass' persona is VERY ALPHA. Observe how he talks -- incredibly slowly. He has smoldering eye contact. He projects sex all the time, and he's unabashed about it. His "game' isn't tight, but he has all the trappings of an alpha male. This Youtube clip, catches his better moments:

Negs: A Tool of Disinterest

2008-05-15T22:24:00.000-04:00

"I LOVE your shirt...where'd you get it? Baby Gap?"

In my opinion, a large portion of Mystery Method aims at showing a woman "active disinterest." You enter a set indirectly, show that you're of higher value, lower her value below yours, and have her show interest in you first. (Open -> DHV -> Neg/IOD -> IOI)

The Neg is perhaps one of the most often-used, and perhaps, notorious tools of the community. My definition of a "successful neg" aims to point out a small flaw that stems from a girl's personality or physical appearance. Here is an excerpt from a Neg Guide compiled by Hatman on the Attraction Forums:

Type 1 – the back-handed compliment e.g. “I like your make-up”
Type 2 – the compliment with an unexpected twist e.g. "I like your eyes, especially the left one"
Type 3 – the body observation neg e.g. “your nose wiggles when you talk!”
Type 4 – the social observation neg e.g. “holy crap! How do your friends cope with you?”
Type 5 – the body accessory neg e.g. “those shoes look really comfortable”
Type 6 – the threat neg e.g. “I’m gonna kick your ass!”
Type 7 – the false disqualifer special neg e.g. “We are never going to get along”

Why Negs Work

I have no doubt that negs work, when used correctly. Proper negs will make a woman feel slightly self conscious and lower her sense of value by harping on her insecurities. By doing so, they will feel that they are now either closer to your level (if they're already "high value" women -- e.g. import models, strippers, party girls, etc...) or below your level, which puts you at a position of equal or higher social value.

Negs also differentiate you from all the other men that approach women at bars. Most men are supplicating (needy guys who throw around compliments) or assholes (jerks who harass women), but negging correctly will differentiate you from both types. You show that you refuse to compliment your way into bed with a woman, but also that you have more social calibration than an abrasive asshole.

The Problem With Negs

(1) Beginners overuse negs. I remember when I first read the Mystery Method, I would neg anything that walked. I was totally guilty of overusing negs. I would neg girls with low self esteem and I would disqualify myself to the point where she wouldn't even consider dating me. Negging a girl too much will make her feel so insecure that she doesn't trust you. It will also make her associate you with negativity and bad feelings. You're just not fun to be around. Be careful of overusing negs to overcompensate for a lack of confidence or feeling socially uncomfortable.

(2) Negs are easily to miscalibrate. Some girls will find you attractive off the bat, and then you neg her anyway, because you're used to it. Now she feels that you're either an asshole, or perhaps, even worse, out of her league. She feels that she's lower value than you, and so when you try to pursue her, she rationalizes to herself "he's obviously higher value than me. What does he want with me? He probably just wants to sleep with me and leave me." Miscalibrated negging will kill an interaction.

(3) Negs probably don't work for the girl that you truly want. I know that the girl that I want is secure in her sense of self and confident in her appearance. Negs will bounce off of her, leaving her unscathed. She could care less if you just pointed out a small flaw in her appearance. Its just not part of her reality. And when you meet this girl, and she appears impenetrable, you will be dumbfounded and confused. Your bread and butter move no longer works, and you've build 0% attraction. Thus, using negs as a crutch, will leave you powerless to a woman like this.

(4) Negs originate from a source of poor inner game. By simply using negs, you're complying to the theory that a girl is of higher perceived value than you. Thus, you neg her to bring her down to your level or a little below. This is a momentary fix, and a BAND-AID. Instead, you SHOULD be higher value already. You generate high value by the way you move, the type of approach you make, the way you talk, and the way you manage social interactions. If you have good inner game and can project it in your outer game, you wouldn't need Negs. No woman should ever feel that she is higher value than you, because you're AWESOME. How do you get to that stage? Well thats a different post for a different time.

All in all, negs are a great "tool" for showing how you're just not into her, and creating an atmosphere where a girl chases you. However, negs are only a temporary fix for a greater problem, and they can very easily be misused. Proceed with caution.

Want to learn how to neg properly? I'd definitely suggest looking at Hatman's guide. Feel free to e-mail me at saffronpua@gmail.com with any questions.

"....Not Into Her:" Question

2008-05-14T18:03:00.000-04:00

Before I start talking about Negs, I wanted to answer a question asked by a reader in regards to my previous post: "When you build comfort...wouldn't you have to show pretty clear interest?" - anonymous.

The answer, in a nutshell, is No. The point is, you never 100% commit your interest to the girl at any time. You guys can be engrossed in a conversation, deep in comfort, but you should still be a little withdrawn or show a willingness to walk away. Why? Because this allows you to make a connection while still maintaining attraction with your target. Now, this does NOT mean that you can't show any interest at all. By all means, you should be giving her positive signs of interest when she shows compliance (e.g. answers a meaningful question about herself or acquiesces to following your lead) or when you qualify her (e.g. you state that you only like intelligent girls and she goes on a story about her passion for art -- you can reward her with your interest at this point). However, when you show interest, it should be to reward her and to keep her connected. You should not be constantly barraging her with your own indicators of interest. Here is an example: (assume that we're in comfort)

Me: So I love traveling around the world. I really value the adventurous side of people. Are you adventurous?

Her: Of course, I've always wanted to visit Greece as a little kid. When I was young.....

Me: Awesome. I can totally see that side of you and thats what makes it so much fun to sit here and talk with you. You have an adventurous spark that probably most people in this bar can't even appreciate. But, don't get any dirty thoughts. You're not getting THAT adventurous with me tonight

If you ARE going to show interest in her, it should be about something other than her looks. Do not show interest for her beautiful eyes or her luscious body -- focus on the less appreciated, and the more personally valued. Figure out what she values about herself (outlook on life, ability to deal with people, ambitions...) and show interest for that instead of the oft-used cliches. This act will set you apart from the 100s of guys that approach her every week.

The next post will take an in-depth look into negs and their application.

You're Just Not That Really Into Her...

2008-05-12T13:08:00.000-04:00

"You're Just Not That Really Into Her... " Should be a vibe that you're always giving off. Even if you are into her.

I've come to realize that the biggest hole in my game during my pre-community years was that I was telegraphing too much interest. I knew that women liked confidence and guys who went after what they wanted, so I would approach a girl without shame and left no doubt that I was hitting on her. She was going to be mine, and I let her know that.

Well, this view gave me some amount of success and it worked very well with girls who had some attraction for me. But, it totally shifted the power dynamic and gave her the power of selection -- she had to approve ME, and not the other way around. Now, I know that this revelation isn't groundbreaking, but its very, very easy to forget, especially when you're in set. Maybe you 're flattering her too much. Or you start desperately seeking rapport with her. Maybe you're trying too hard to make her laugh or to impress her with your stories.

All of these actions shift the power dynamic from your hands to hers. Now there are a lot of community tactics that allow you to convey "active disinterest." In my next post, I will be breaking down these tactics and explaining how they should be fitting into your game. I would like to note that its OK for you to overtly flirt with her and telegraph some interest, but you should NEVER let her feel that she can have you 100%.

Hank Moody - TV Alpha Male

2008-05-10T23:32:00.000-04:00

One of my vices is watching Television, and shows that have womanizing alpha males are among my favorites (no surprise there). I just finished watching the first season of Californication and I was thoroughly impressed with how David Duchovny portrays Hank Moody, the lead character of the show. There is no doubt that the character is very flawed, but he is good at a certain few things:

Conveying non-neediness - He has a "I don't really give a fuck" attitude towards women (except for his "true love," which is a glaring weakness) that really captures the essence of non-neediness.

Being an asshole, but the lovable kind - Hank Moody is a dick and he's awesome at it. You respect him for not giving a shit about anyone else.

Frame Control - He's excellent with words and controlling interactions.

If you have a 10 hours to kill, I believe the DVD of Season 1 will be coming out soon. There's also a bunch of clips on YouTube, although not all of them capture Moody in his best moments. Here's a great one.

My 100% No Flake Camera Routine (Phone/Txt)

2008-05-07T18:03:00.000-04:00

When I started out I used a pocket digicam in field, because I approached so many sets I lost track of what my targets looked like. Shortly afterwards, I made the connection that girls LOVE taking pictures and looking at pictures, so I came up with this routine. This Routine has NEVER failed me to get a REAL phone number and to get a next day response. This is probably the only routine that I run that gets 100% consistent results. (15 for 15) I've used some role playing and framing that I've learned from the community and other PUAs and applied it to the goal of day-2 follow-ups.

Here it is guys, my 100% Camera Routine: [This routine can be executed anytime after you build attraction and hook. I usually do it in a high-energy state and make it a fun roleplay]

Goal: To take a memorable picture, use it as a legitimate reason to phone close and then to get a next-day response from the target.

Step 1: "We are both looking way too hot right now. Everyone at this bar must be so jealous of how hot we are. We're going to capture this moment and take a hot/model pose picture" -- don't ask for her permission. Just take out the camera and give it to the CB of the set or do the one-handed picture taking thing.

Step 2: Take 2 pictures. One "hot/model" picture. One "Silly, stick out your tongue, lick each other faces" picture. An optional third picture, if you have the balls, and if you think you've built enough attraction is the "make out for the camera" picture.
[Credit: Johnny Wolf/APB]

Step 3: Phone Close after Picture: "These pictures came out so sexy. I'm going to have to send them to you. *phone close*" -- EVERY girl wants to see the pictures that they took and are wary that the pictures would come out unattractively and would be spread all over the internet, SO they have 100% incentive to give you a real number.

Step 4: Resume Gaming

Step 5: The Next Day, text her or call her and say "Hey, the pictures turned out real sexy. Oh, and you didn't look that bad in them either. If you're good, maybe I'll even let you see them." [C&F + Qualification frame] OR "Hey, the pictures turned out real sexy. Oh, and you didn't look that bad in them either. Where should I send it to?" [Safer Route, but 100% response]

Step 6: If you went with the C&F/Qualification Frame, you can easily setup a C&F plotline where she earns the right to get the pictures. Make it a mini-game. If you took the less adventurous route, you still have 1 text message back and forth, and her e-mail address.

**end-note: I run a very natural-based game, but I have canned some of my own material, because I've seen some very high levels of success with it. This is one example of it.

About Routines & My Game

2008-04-03T04:56:00.000-04:00

I've gotten some feedback from my readers about my LR's being layered with "routines". For the most part I run and teach natural game, and the routines that you read about are things that I have naturally done in my sarging that I've found to recur over and over again. I will spend some time in the next few weeks breaking down these routines and posting them up, just to give you guys a better understanding of what I do.

Unless stated otherwise, the routines I run are my own and they are all naturally based. The Giver Frame is a great example of a routine that I "run" -- it grew organically and is congruent with my personality, and thus, has become one of my natural routines.

Why label them as "EC Routine" or "Dance Floor Routine" in the first place? I basically use this as shorthand for myself so that I don't have to repeat what I do over and over again (my LR's are long enough as it is...)

As an aside, I have another LR to write up from my Spring Break trip as well as about 5 more posts about new openers I've been experimenting with, the amount of growth I've had in Miami, and some amazing stuff I want to share with you guys. I've done 13 days of straight Spring Break Sarging, so I'm burnt out. Stay posted for new material.

FR: The UNKNOWN SECRET about Spring Break Pickup (6 #closes in 1 hour)

2008-03-22T04:06:00.000-04:00

There's no better way to kick off Spring Break than with an Airport Lay and 12 #closes in 24 hours. I'm in Miami now with the ABCs of Attraction team, including the Asian Playboy, Johnny Wolf, and Showtime. We're also kicking it with Speer, former lead instructor for the Venusian Arts, and Sexual Chocolate, instructor for Mehow. After landing yesterday morning, we hit the ground running and we discovered the secret to Spring Break Sarging. No, its not plying girls with liquor, or bringing party beads to clubs -- its DAY GAME.

Day Game in Spring Break is TOO EASY. It was 6 pm and it was raining, and we still #closed 13 girls in 1 hour. (I #closed 6 of the 13) We went out to the local CVS and pulled 8 numbers. We then went street sarging and closed 6 other girls. By the time we hit the clubs we had brought 8 girls with us, split between 3 guys (APB joined us later) and were automatically social proofed. Although a lot happened last night, I'm going to focus this post around the key to Day Gaming on vacation. Here was one of the better sets:

I saw a beautiful Puerto Rican ballerina walking down the street in my direction. I walked up, making sure my body language was tight (A - Attract) and situationally opened her:

Me: Do you know any good restaurants around here? (A - Approach) I just flew in today and have no idea where to go. (C - Really quick grounding)
Her: Depends, what do you want to eat?
Me: Well, I'm not a picky eater, but I can really appreciate good food. My passion in life is traveling around the world and finding those hidden Mom & Pop restaurants that serve authentic cuisine. Thats one of the reasons why I went to cooking school (C - DHV Grounding)
Her: Oh, really? What do you cook? (IOI)
Me: I've been trained in Classical French, but I love fusion food. There's something awesome about mixing cultures together. (C - Subtle Interracial Dating Frame) But tell me, do you have good taste in food? Your favorite restaurant is probably McDonald's! (BT Spike+ Qualifying)
Her: No, no. I Love Food! You should check out Sushi Samba down the street
Me: Oh, we have a Sushi Samba in NYC. I can't believe they have one down here. Miami always copies NYC
Her: Oh, I'm actually from NYC. and you're right! What part of NYC are you from? (IOI)
Me: I was born and raised in Queens. Can't you tell? I'm such a Queens guy. Why did you move to Miami?
Her: I work here now. I went to study in NYC at the American Ballet Company and now I'm dancing down here.
Me: That's so cute. I'm going to put you in my pocket and the next time I'm bored, I'll just pull you out and you can dance for me. (BT)
Her: NOOOO. I can't fit in your pocket!
Me: Well then maybe you should stop eating at McDonald's all the time. (BT - Reframe + Tease)
[More comfort building + bantering here]

....Me: Well, I have to run now. I'm heading out to a club tonight, so you can dance for me. Give me your phone (Compliance Test)
[hands over the phone]
Me: [enters phone routine]. Alright, before we head out, we're going to take a sexy picture.

Johnny Wolf comes over and we go into a photo routine. She kisses me on the cheek and I head off to continue our day game blitzkrieg.

This morning, I get this text from her: "Last night was fun ;)"

[b]Takeaways -[/b]
(1) Your opener doesn't need to be super fancy. I used a simple situational opener, but its key to both ground yourself and also to quickly transition into comfort.

(2) Make a connection ASAP - I subtly fished around for connections (food/traveling/NYC/dancing) to keep her hooked and to build comfort

(3) Qualify + DHV: A lot of guys think that qualifying and DHV are these huge, complicated routines - as you can see in my interaction, they should be naturally integrated into the interaction and can be done in very short straightfoward phrases

(4) Spring Break Day Game is MONEY. Most guys focus on night game, where most of the girls are ADD and drunk and sloppy. Everyone forgets that girls on Spring Break are ALWAYS looking to party and to meet guys. I'd even say that its probably easier to game during the day than at night.

HBBallerina

Another Set...

Group Pic

Airport De-LAY

2008-03-20T07:39:00.000-04:00

So I'm still stranded at the airport as I'm posting this and I wanted to put this up as quickly as possible, before I continue on my Spring Break Challenge. I'm going to give the bare bones details now and I hope to fill the rest in later. This is mostly going to be a brain dump:

Because of technical difficulties, my flight was delayed yesterday. While I was waiting at my gate to talk to the flight attendant, I caught the eye of HBDoctor. We locked eyes and I went into my EC Routine. She smiled. I smiled. It was ON.

Now, as the Asian Playboy taught me, beginning PUAs think about how, intermediate PUAs think about what, and advanced PUAs think about where (to approach). HBDoctor was seated about 30 feet away from me, wedged between a middle-aged businessman and an old woman. I considered going direct and opening her right in the middle of the gate, but I figured that the amount of social pressure I generated would likely cause her to shut down, in addition to the fact, that I had no where to sit in the interaction. I'd have to get her to bounce seats to enter comfort, and that had a lower probability of success.

So, I opened the old woman next to HBDoctor. I used a simple situational opener, and stated doing light banter with the woman. I quickly pulled HBDoctor into the conversation and started to qualify her off the bat. That's right, I used an elderly lady as my pivot and forward merged the set, in the middle of an airport during rush hour -- I have no shame.

Now, I was leading 60% of the conversation with 20% input from the elderly woman and 20% from HBDoctor. I started going into my grounding routine and shifted the topic of conversation to HBDoctor. The elderly woman soon faded out of the picture, and then gave up her seat to me. (she had to board her flight ) She must have realized that she wasn't going to ONS this young stud.

[The conversation wasn't that dynamic, but if you guys want me to fill it in with detail, ask and I'll post it up when I settle in - mostly grounding/DHV then teasing frame then flirty sexual framing]

I worked out logistics quickly -- where she was going, where she was coming from, and whether or not we'd be on the same flight. My plane started boarding so I #closed her. After boarding the plane, I did some light Texting Banter. She texted me back telling me that she was boarding my plane -- apparently her flight was canceled too and she was rerouting via my plane. We were seated far away, so there was very little interaction on the plane. I was hoping for an airplane bathroom pull, but I guess I'll have to shoot for that on my flight home.

When we landed in our connecting city, we both found out that we missed our connecting flights. (there were tons of cancellations and air traffic) What a shitty ass day to travel. We were both told by our airline that the next flight would be the day after, so we had to stay overnight in the airport. We connected again, and I assumed rapport. I automatically went into the "boyfriend" frame and led the interaction, telling her that "I'd take care of everything" and that "We Were Going to Make this an Adventure."

She was giving me heavy IOIs at this point, so I suggested that we split a hotel room together. She was being coy, but I could tell that she wasn't going to give me much resistance. I've been building small Compliance Tests leading up to my this request, so I knew that it was a safe thing to ask. She then started shit testing me. I preempted most of it by telling her "Don't get any naughty thoughts now -- you're not getting lucky tonight."

We booked our room and traveled there together. I went into deeper comfort along the way. We grabbed dinner and a bottle of liquor for our room. When we settled in, I realized that the best way to diffuse LMR was to play a comfort-based drinking game. I basically modified the Question Game with a shot component, so we simultaneously built comfort while drinking together. I dropped in my "Giver Frame" Routine and my Pre-LMR tactics. It worked like a charm. After an hour, clothes started flying off.

At this point we were both tipsy and fully turned on with each other. The Question Game was highly sexually charged and so we were basically ripping clothes right off each other. I ran my fingers down the crevices of her tight body. There was so much stress dealing with the airport all day, that we found release in each other's embrace. She melted into me, and well, I melted inside of her.

During the debrief afterwards, I asked her if she ever wondered throughout the day, before we reached the hotel, what I was like in bed. Her response was insightful: "No, I didn't have to wonder at all. Just by the way you carry yourself and the way that you said you're "not innocent" (part of my framing routine) -- I knew off the bat that you were going to be great in bed." -- This really opened my eyes, because I didn't think girls consciously analyzed my game like that.

I'm flying standby for the entire day, so I'll probably be running more airport day game. What a way to kick off my Spring Break adventures -- it definitely turned a shitty ass flying experience, into an unforgettable experience. Stay tuned for updates!

Key Points:

Sarge Creatively - I opened and pivoted an elderly lady to get to my target. I've never done this before, but it worked. Especially in day game, using the elderly lady as a pivot, socially proofed me as a "safe" and "non-creepy guy.

Logistics - Logistics is key to the SNL. Everything went wrong in exactly the right ways to make the SNL happen. - same flights, same delays, same next day waiting period.

Non-neediness + Sexual Framing: Until we got to the hotel, I never conveyed direct sexual interest. I used non-needy BL and preemptive framing to disable her ASD and ease her into complying with the hotel request. At the same time, I used sexual framing to sub communicate the "Adventurous" side of the experience. I satisfied her logical side by being "safe' while engaging her emotional side with various sexual framing tactics.

The Giver Frame – Transitioning from Comfort to Direct Interest

2008-03-12T15:30:00.000-04:00

The #1 Killer of Intermediate PUAs is Sexual Anxiety. You know how to open, you know how to build comfort, but you stall at bridging comfort to direct, sexual interest. When everything that you've built has come to a culmination—be it at the end of an adventure comfort story at a bar or during a childhood regression story on a day-3, you see the opportunity to move the conversation from easy and fun comfort, to direct sexuality. You stall. You make excuses for yourself. Your mind draws a blank. You don't know HOW to transition, and so you slowly creep into the twilight zone of Let's Just Be Friends.

First off, you should always be touching her in a non-creepy, non-intrusive manner, to display that your sexuality is always apparent and that you refuse to be put in the fucking black hole that is the LJBF Zone. But, what do you do next? I created the "Giver" Frame a couple of months back during a nightclub sarge, and slowly teased out the power of the idea. After I developed the frame and started filling in a backstory, I saw the transition of coy smiles on female faces to the look of sexual hunger, where I could visibly observe its instantaneous power over women who began to view me in a different light. The frame has been so powerful that women still quote me on my words, weeks after its mentioning. Some have told me that my "giver" story is the #1 reason why they chose to sleep with me.

As with everything I try to innovate, I caution you to (1) calibrate it to your life and (2) only use it if it is congruent to you. The purpose of this frame is to anchor the BT spikes of touching to your personality, which attempt to access her "emotional brain." You are verbalizing your sexuality. Here is how the giver frame goes:

[Easy to transition to from any of these topics: Past relationships, charity, how to manage friendships, volunteering, any form of sharing (gifts, food, ideas, etc…)]

Me: "So I've always believed that in most relationships someone assumes the role of a giver and someone assumes the role of a taker. And sadly, it appears that throughout history most guys are takers and most women are givers – men constantly "take" comfort and value from a relationship, and women oftentimes have to "give" up their freedom and their personal values."

Her: [Time for feedback—most women agree with this. If they don't, ask them "well have you ever dated or had a friend who dated a guy, who just kept on taking?" They'll always say yes. They may jump into a Personal story.]

Me: "Well I was raised differently. I've always seen myself as a giver and that's why it's a passion of mine to help the disadvantaged through community service, social enterprise, etc... (sometimes, I jump into a DHV of my past work) Since then, I've always found it to be the most rewarding experience, by being a giver. In my relationships, nothing makes me happier than to satisfy the needs of the other person. Of course, ideally, we'd both be givers and meet each other halfway. And this is true from both outside and inside the bedroom (have a sexual smirk on your face when you say this).

["For me, sex is much more fulfilling when I'm actually giving than taking. A lot of women are used to the idea that guys just "want to have sex with them" and assume the passive role that they are "giving up" sex to men. For me, it's completely the opposite. I always give during sex, and now, I view sex as a way that I can share my abilities and my passions with women. Unfortunately, most women don't know how to handle this and aren't used to the change from being a giver to a taker."] What about you, how do you see yourself?"

I set off a section in parentheses for those who are more comfortable in pushing the sexual frame. I ALWAYS go into the sexual frame, although the connotations are already in place that it isn't absolutely necessary to go into detail. If you're just getting used to discussing your sexuality, then I would recommend using the giver frame with slight connotations, instead of delving head first into its entirety.

Important Takeaways:

1) Comfort and DHV is built into this Frame. You've shown that you're: caring about others, generous, giving, observant of other people's needs (Emotional & Social Intelligence), and pre-selected by women

2) Sexuality: You've basically implied that you're going to sexually satisfy her or go for broke. (If this is not congruent to you, then well, learn to be a man who can satisfy his woman) This is great to stack into a sexual experience or expertise story. I've had girls frequently start talking about the best sex they've had or the lack thereof, which is a great way to get them into a sexual state.

3) Qualifies HER. After framing the issue in this light, I have yet to meet a woman who calls herself a "taker." They will try to defend their sexual ability AND their ability to satisfy a man, by saying how they're great at giving too. This sets great expectations for the relationship and will give you leverage in the future and in bed.

4) Sets up a Topical Reference: You can always bounce back to this topic at a later point. Should you start talking about this in a "comfort location" instead of an "escalation location," you can always just re-raise this topic in the EL. "You said you're a giver….let's find out." or challenge her and say "I thought you said you were a giver. What Lies!" and watch her start trying to prove herself to you again.

5) Being a AFC vs. a Sexworthy Man: I can already foresee the hesitation by some who argue that you should never be "a giver." It may sound chodely at first, where you're ignoring your manly desires by supplicating to a woman's needs. You're coming from the wrong frame. You need to understand this interchange as you being such a confident man that there is no doubt in your mind that you can satisfy any women's needs. You satisfy women, just by being the guy that you are. You are a SEXWORTHY man.

6) Bridging Comfort to Direct Interest: You're basically using a comfort story to start talking about sex, while implying that you're going to satisfy her sexual needs. This allows you to talk about sex and express your sexuality without worrying about "creeping" her out or being too sexually aggressive.

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White Guys (and non-Asian Guys) Gaming Asian Girls

2008-03-07T13:56:00.000-05:00

This question kept on recurring during a presentation I did to the NYC lair, so I decided to write an in-depth post on technique and attitude. When it sounds like I’m making a generalization in this post, well I am – there are exceptions to every general rule and some may find this more relevant than others. I just hope that there are a few of you out there that get value from this. And just to get this out of the way now, conceptually speaking, there is probably 25% of the Asian Girl population who ONLY dates non-Asian men, and there is 25% of the Asian Girl population who would NEVER think to date a non-Asian man– I’m trying to help you get the middle 50% and to help you compete for the favorable 25% and help you convert the more pliable part of the bottom 25%.

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I think the overwhelming attitude in the community is to ignore race – it doesn’t matter what race you are and what race she is – game is still game. While there is some truth to that, I disagree.

Let me clarify. Yes a Black girl, an Asian girl, and a Latino girl all need the basics of attraction, comfort, and seduction, to start from stranger to sex partner, but they need VARYING emphasis on each parts. From field experience, Black and Latino girls respond much better to direct, sexual advances (More Attraction stage and Direct Interest Stage) – probably because they’ve been exposed to the “alpha sexual male” frame since an early age – I know a lot of guys who keep on talking about how black men are mostly “naturals” who project sexuality and claw women. Thus, being able to convey directness and sexuality is an important minimal requirement for Black and Latino girls. How about Asian girls? I think it’s quite the opposite.

For the most part, East Asian girls (the Confucian-based culture of East Asia is much different than South East Asia, which is more sexually expressive), who are either foreign-born OR American-born are more conservative. But, take a look at their friends first. If they hang out with all white friends, then just treat them like any other white girl. If they hang out with all black friends, then just the same. Mixed friends? Treat her like a normal person.

With that being said, how do you deal with the conservative Asian girl type? The one that runs away after you approach her, even if you went really indirect? Here are the major points:

1) Don’t Be Creepy. This is true for most women, but the margin of error is much smaller for Asian girls. If you’re creepy and you’re not from their social circle, they’ll most likely just run away. I have a checklist on how not to be creepy, but that’s a different post for a different time.

2) SMILE. Be warm and friendly. Don’t try to pretend like you’re the stoic Alpha male – you’ll just end up looking like a homicidal kidnapper.

3) In the first few minutes of the interaction, don’t kino as much. After you hook, you can escalate the kino, but if you kino off the bat, it turns on the “violating personal space” alarm and will cause her to shut down. (calibrate this – this is just a rule of thumb).

4) GROUND yourself. Show the Asian girl that you’re a real person, doing real things. It’d be even better if you could DHV while Grounding. The Asian culture is very status based, so DHVs concerning job status, education, lifestyle are great.

5) Establish and Bridge Commonalities ASAP. But don’t be corny about it. Don’t stand around and say, I love to use chopsticks or that you can eat dumplings until you die. Talk to her about your understanding of cultural differences and deeper backgrounds, e.g. “Family is really important to me, and I know family is probably really important to you” (universal truth, in addition to the fact that Asians are very family oriented) or especially if they’re foreign tell them how you’re trying to learn their language and plan a trip there – get advice, get them talking about what they like about their country and if their English sucks say, “how about you teach me some Korean (or whatever) and I’ll teach you some English…over [day-2 timebridge]

6) Ingratiate Yourself with the Alpha Male and then work the group. This is a great way to come off as non-predatory. Be cool with the AM in a mixed set and have him introduce you to his friends. You don't ALWAYS have to, but realize that social pressure is much greater in Asian communities.

7) Use Indirect Openers – I would recommend situational or indirect openers, but transition VERY fast to a different topic that bridges commonalities. If you like going direct, I’d tone it down a notch from “You’re fucking beautiful” to “I love your fashion sense” etc…

8) Don’t Objectify Them. Many Asian girls are well aware of the “Yellow Fever” fetish that some white guys have. Don’t be that white guy. The problem with the “Yellow Fever” syndrome, is not the fact that you may be very attracted to Asian girls, but the fact that you see them as a “trendy fad” or this “exotic experience into Asian culture.” You may learn new things about Asian culture, and they may be exotic, BUT you should first and foremost view them as people. They have emotions and personalities like everyone else.

Remember, the distinctions I'm making here are NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT than regular game. Its just the ability to tweak your game and RECALIBRATE based on race. I would use the same guidelines for gaming other girls, but with different emphasis on each.

I’d be more than happy to answer questions, so send me an e-mail at saffronstyle@gmail.com and I’d be more than happy to talk over your sticking points and questions with you.