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Laughs are better than applause

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:24:00 +0000

A while back, I wrote about how applause breaks are analytical and laughter is primal. In this interview [thx JW], Norm Macdonald talks about why he prefers laughs to claps.

I was getting people to clap, but I reached a point where I never wanted to get people to clap, because it was, like you said, pandering. But there's a difference between a clap and a laugh. A laugh is involuntary, but the crowd is in complete control when they're clapping, they're saying, "we agree with what you're saying-proceed!" But when they're laughing, they're genuinely surprised. And when they're not laughing, they're really surprised. And sometimes I think, in my little head, that that's the best comedy of all.

He also talks about why he doesn't do the same set every night.

If you want to say the same thing every night of your life, if that's what you want to choose to do with your life, that seems completely insane to me. Like, I don't even know how singers do that shit. Plus is becomes so rote that unless you're the greatest actor in the world, you can't pretend like it's just coming off the top of your head. I'm probably the worst actor in the world, so I need something new all the time. I need stuff that makes me laugh, and old stuff doesn't make me laugh. And also I'm embarrassed. Like, you know when you tell a person a story that you've already told them before? That's embarrassing, right? So I would be embarrassed by it, but mostly I would be driven insane by the repetition.

I often thought comics that weave and bob onstage — alternating between crowdwork, riffing, and material — have more fun than guys who just go out and do mostly the same set every night. Comics who come to mind: Todd Barry, Todd Lynn, Patrice O'Neal, Jimmy Pardo, etc.

That approach prob sets ya back a bit when it comes to churning out albums and TV specials. But ya probably enjoy the ride along the way a lot more.

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Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:00:00 PDT

George Carlin on bad words
“I’m tired of hearing about bad words and bad language. Bullshit. Words are completely neutral. It’s the context that counts, it’s the intention behind the words that makes them good or bad.”

Hiding what you really mean

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:36:00 +0000

The tough part is cloaking what you're trying to say. You can't just come right out and say this or that is stupid or whatever. That's just a lecture. You need to dress it up so it's in disguise.

That way the audience gets to work for it too. They get to meet you halfway. They pull the mask off the joke in their own heads and get to feel smart for figuring it out. People like crossword puzzles a lot more than they like just reading a list of random facts. Solving things is fun.

It's kinda like symbolism in literature or poetry. It's not about saying something directly. It's about creating the caged bird or whatever other metaphor you use and then having the reader be able to deconstruct that and connect the dots on their own. By engaging them that way, you have them create the art alongside you. You do it together.

It's also like a whodunit. You need to give them enough clues to keep them engaged and make the story make sense — and yet still have the ending be a surprise.

Figuring out what to say is easy. Knowing just how much to hide it is when it gets tricky.

Think Tank: Deaf

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:10:00 +0000

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Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:00:00 PDT

Jimmy Pardo interview at Punchline Magazine
"As an open micer, I would improv quite a bit. I’d take a lot of chances. But once I started getting paid I thought I had to be a quote-unquote ‘comedian’ and thought, ‘I better stick to my set.’ And that was a mistake. I was tired of people telling me that I was the funniest guy they’d ever worked with off-stage. And people would say if I did onstage what I did off-stage, then I’d be great. And I didn’t really understand what they were saying for a while. I guess it was around ’93 that I decided to shift. I went back to taking chances, doing stream of consciousness stuff like Richard Lewis would do, and that helped me find my voice."

Patton Oswalt's advice on how not to be a miserable comedian

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:01:00 +0000

This is a great Comedy And Everything Else podcast featuring Patton Oswalt as the guest [thx PM]. The really good stuff starts about 20 or 30 minutes in when Oswalt starts waxing philosophical about standup.

Some of the types of comics he goes after:

1. Comedians who feel entitled because they've been doing standup for a long time. Oswalt's take: It doesn't matter how long you've been doing it, it's how well you've been doing it. Basically: "You haven't been doing comedy for 20 years, you did it for 1 year and you've been repeating that year for 19 years."

2. Comedians who get pissy about the success of hacky comics. Oswalt: Be happy for them and their success. If they can succeed doing stupid shit, that's fine. You don't want those fans anyway so who cares? It's a diff audience and has nothing to do with you.

3. Comedians who don't help their peers. It's why Oswalt did Comedians of Comedy. He thinks you need to bring people you like along with you on the path to success. They will help drive you and keep you funny/honest. Otherwise, you'll just wind up a shallow (and prob unfunny) asshole.

Also neat: The crew mentions Rory Scovel as one of the best new young comics out there (at about 1hr and 6min in).

Sandpaper Suit thread over at aspecialthing

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:05:00 +0000

I just started a thread over at aspecialthing (a great message board site for comedy enthusiasts) that includes top posts from this blog: "Top posts from Sandpaper Suit, NYC comic Matt Ruby's blog about standup."

If you're a fan of this site and also read AST, I'd really appreciate if you could go to that thread and post a nice comment about Sandpaper Suit (why you like it, topics you've seen covered here that were helpful/interesting, etc.). That way AST readers will know it's worth checking out. Thanks guys.

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Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:00:00 PDT

Video interview: A Tight Five with Paul F. Tompkins
Talks about moving to more of a storytelling style.

Behind the scenes as Louis CK films a new TV pilot

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:16:00 +0000

Louis CK called me a motherfucker last night.

Some background first: He sent out a Twitter message two days ago saying he was filming a pilot and to write in if you want to come. People who responded got a message to come to The Comedy Cellar early last night (it was about 2/3 full) where he filmed some standup segments for the show.

Before filming, he explained the deal. The pilot is for FX. It will alternate between standup clips and actual scenes. Also in it: Todd Barry, Nick DiPaolo, and Rick Shapiro. He joked around that it most likely will never get picked up. He's directing the show too and it was interesting to see him talking tech stuff with the crew and closely examining the steadycam shots (using some fancy new Red camera that weighed so much the cameraman had to take a break every 15 mins or so).

He did some Q&A with the crowd while cameras were setting up. I asked him what the narrative of the show was and he replied, "You want me to tell you the entire story now, you motherfucker?" Oddly, that word seems almost like a term of endearment coming from him. Heh. He didn't answer and moved on to other questions, mostly about his previous work on movies.

The standup performance lasted about 40 minutes and is almost all new material that he's developed since his last special was filmed two months ago. So I guess that puts his material development rate at about 20 minutes per month. Jesus.

Some was still being fleshed out (after a bit on people who honk car horns, he looked down at his notes and grumbled, "Who the fuck cares what I think about honking horns?"). But some was really great stuff that's already top tier (great stuff on how all relationships end badly and chaperoning at his kids school especially stood out).

Is "you're a good writer" really a compliment to a standup?

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:20:00 +0000

A few times in the past month I've had comics say to me after a set: "You're a really good writer." And while I want to take that as a compliment, there's something in my head that's thinking, "So what you're really saying is: 'You're not much of a performer.'"

So it was funny to read this interview between Todd Barry and musician Nick Lowe and read this bit from Todd:

Usually, for a comedian, if they say he’s a good writer, it’s sort of a backhanded compliment. Like it usually means shitty performer, but not that they wouldn’t also compliment a good comedian on his writing. I think I do get complimented on my writing, but if they just go, “Heyyy, good writing,” that’s a little jab.

I'm sure the opposite is true too. When people tell a comic, "Wow, you really have an amazing energy onstage!"...that guy prob sits around thinking, "Damn, my jokes aren't very good, are they?"

In truth, I don't mind the backhandedness of the good writing thing. First of all, at least something is good. And second, I really dig comics like Birbigs or CK who don't even seem like they're performing at all. They just seem like they're talking to you the way a normal person does. The performance is there, but you feel like it's almost hidden rather than being hit over the head with it.

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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:00:00 PDT

Actress Patti LuPone on confronting audience members who use cellphones
"Do we allow our rights to be violated (photography, filming and audio taping of performances is illegal) or tolerate rudeness by members of the audience who feel they have the right to sit in a dark theater, texting or checking their e-mail while the light from their screens distract both performers and the audience alike? Or, should I stand up for my rights as a performer as well as the audiences I perform for? And do you think I’m alone in this? Ask any performer on Broadway right now about their level of frustration with this issue."
New Young Comedians tip for show producers
"Here's a secret that we just recently learned. When people come to comedy shows, nobody wants to sit up front, so you end up with a bunch of people in the back and the sides, and you end up with that U-shape, and then the middle and the front is empty. So we decided -- and I hope that people use this at other shows -- to take out all the seats from the back, and you put them away. Eventually people only see a limited number of spaces, so they start sitting up front, and then you pull out more and more chairs slowly, and then you fill the back up as necessary. And that'll avoid having a huge dead spot in the middle."

Think Tank: Yogurt

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:51:00 +0000

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Podcast for one-year We're All Friends Here anniversary show now up

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:52:00 +0000

The latest episode of the We're All Friends Here podcast is now live. It's the one-year anniversary show featuring return visits from Sean Patton, Hannibal Buress, and Dan Goodman. It was an awesome show...get ready for some dirt!

Also, the iTunes feed for the podcast is now up to date with this episode and the one before it too. (For some reason, the last episode wasn't showing up there until now.)

And thanks to everyone who came out to the last show on Friday night (podcast coming soon). Man, we really got somewhere, eh? Here's what our guests said afterwards on Twitter/Facebook: JL: "Just had the most emotionally draining set/interview of my life." Ted: "I had a ball and you guys do a great job!" RG: "That was by far one of the brightest highlights of my comedy 'career.'" Thanks guys, we had a great time too. See ya at the next one: July 24 at The Creek (8pm).

Jesse Popp on the NY Times site

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:40:00 +0000

Neat. The front page of the NY Times web site has a big pic of Jesse Popp (who I think is very funny) and a slideshow/interview with him. Includes some cool photos with at least a few comics whom ya might recognize — if you're someone who hangs out in the scene, that is.

It's part of the Times' "One in 8 Million" series. However, I don't think they are referring to the one in 8 million comedians trying to get stage time in NYC.

Getting road gigs

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:48:00 +0000

A reader writes in:

One thing I was wondering is, do you have any old postings about how to go about getting road gigs?

Nope, haven't written about that before. For the road gigs I do, I usually have a fellow comic from that town (e.g. Boston, Chicago, or D.C.) who knows I'm decent put in a word for me at the good show(s) in his/her hometown. If more followup is needed, I'll send along an email with a brief bio and a link to a set online. That usually works. Then I go to the show and try to kick ass so 1) the comic that referred me doesn't look bad and 2) I can get booked again there.

One way being from NYC helps: Audiences here are as tough as they get. To paraphrase ol' blue eyes, if you can make 'em laugh here, you can make 'em laugh anywhere. (Well, unless your jokes are all about riding the subway and how dumb people in the south are.)

So if you show up and have a great set, you can prob get booked again pretty easily. But if you're not confident about your ability to do that, it might be a better idea to hold off before getting out there. You don't want to do a shitty set and wind up blacklisted from the place.

Other comics I know have actually set up their own tours which is a cool, DIY way to go about it if you're willing to put in the time to set all that up. From what I've heard, these shows can be pretty hit or miss though.

Of course, if you have an agent, they can set up shows for you. But that's a whole different can of worms...

Why people are getting it all wrong when it comes to gay men

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:40:00 +0000

You still hear morons say things like, "I hate faggots. I like WOMEN!" Sorry dude, if you hate gay men, then you hate women too. 'Cuz they are totally into the same things. Who likes fashion? Gay men and women. Who likes appletinis? Gay men and women. Who likes cock? You got it.

When you think about it, girls are total faggots. You can not get more faggoty than a girl. Even the draggiest of drag queens isn't 1% as faggy as someone with a vagina. Not even close.

And you know how some people are mad at illegal immigrants for stealing jobs? If that makes any sense, you know who should hate gay men the most? Women! Think about all the jobs gay men have stolen from women over the years. Hair stylist. Interior decorator. Gay men are the Mexicans of fashion! Forget Texas and Arizona, ladies...build a wall around Chelsea. That's where they're coming from. Protect that border. You're about to lose flight attendants and florists.

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Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:00:00 PDT

Dane Cook on when you can smell fear in a comic
"I attribute some of the more successful comedy bits that are darker in tone, to truth. When a comic talks about something that has touched him and affected him personally, and it's real -- not just something that he pulled out of nowhere because he thought it was funny...that's when you can smell fear in a comic, where it's like, I haven't experienced this but I'm trying to sell it to you -- but when you've lived through something and had an experience like that."

Performing "theater style"

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:23:00 +0000

The other week I had to do a show without a mic. Doesn't happen too often, but it is interesting to me how it changes the dynamic of a set. You feel a lot more like you're doing theater. Things become more intimate and one-man showish. It humanizes you. Eye contact feels more real. The whole thing takes on a more conversational vibe rather than a one-way monologue.

You've also got to project more and amp things up so they can hear ya in the back. Subtle stuff just gets lost. Plus, you're not tethered. You can wander out into the audience and talk to people up close (that's true with wireless mic shows too) — something I enjoy doing. At this show, I wandered into the center of the crowd for half my set and definitely felt like people started locking more then.

Crowdwork doesn't work as well though because you lose your volume edge over audience members. That means it's more of a free-for-all. If you're interacting with random people in the crowd, it's nice to know you can out-volume them at least.

Don't get me wrong. I still prefer having a mic by plenty. But going without once in a while does give ya a different perspective. Also, if there's a situation where there's a mic that's cutting out or some other audio issue, it's nice to know you can just do it the old-fashioned way and get away with it. (Apparently PFT did this at a Moonworks show a couple of months ago which is pretty crazy since that room is enormous. Supposedly it went well. Woulda liked to have seen that.)

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Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:00:00 PDT

Norm Macdonald and Jim Gaffigan on The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien
Andy actually gets the best line in during Norm's interview.
Artie Lange On Joe Buck Live
Watch before HBO takes it down. Super tense for seven minutes. Buck joked that his favorite Web site was TMZ.com. Lange responded: "What's your second favorite? SuckingCock.com?"

Think Tank: Rats

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:23:00 +0000

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Friday: We're All Friends Here, free tickets for my New York Comedy Contest show tonight, and Tuesday W'burg show

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:21:00 +0000

Friday is the next We're All Friends Here:

We're All Friends Here
The comedy chat show with boundary issues
Hosted by Matt Ruby and Mark Normand

* Ted Alexandro (Letterman, Conan, Comedy Central)
* J-L Cauvin (Late Late Show w/ Craig Ferguson)
* R.G. Daniels (Sunday Night Stand-Up)

FREE
Friday, June 19
8pm @ The Creek
10-93 Jackson Ave at 49th Ave
Long Island City, NY
Just one subway stop from Brooklyn and Manhattan
Map
Listen to the podcast

Free tix for tonight at Eastville
Also, I'm performing at The New York Comedy Contest tonight. 7pm at Eastville Comedy Club. Free tickets available, details below...

FREE TICKETS, TONIGHT, 7PM AND 9PM SHOWS!

100 comedians face off all this week for the grand prize of $5,000. Each night industry judges from Letterman, Comedy Central, VH1, talent agencies, and management companies, pick 4 comics to move forward. Thurs and Fri begins the Semi-final rounds, moving into Saturday night's finals with one comic taking home $5,000, automatic Boston Comedy festival admission, and major industry buzz.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ONE OF TONIGHT'S SHOWS FOR FREE, EMAIL ME (beckydonohue[at]mac[dot]com) WITH THE PHRASE, "I LOVE COMEDY" FOR A PAIR OF TICKETS.

Free show in W'burg on Tuesday
And doing this fun show tomorrow (Tues) night.

Walk towards White Castle...sounds like the theme to a new religion.

Don Rickles does crowdwork on TV

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:39:00 +0000

Ya don't see crowdwork on tv/albums a lot. That's part of what makes this clip of Don Rickles hosting The Tonight Show in '78 so much fun. It has a genuine "what's gonna happen next?" vibe which ya rarely see on mainstream TV. [thx MN]

Here's the man of the hour (talk about word of mouth: I had four different people tell me to go see "The Hangover" this weekend), Zach Galafianakis, going off on Carl, who has the worst body language he's ever seen (from "Live at the Purple Onion").

And Jimmy Pardo does some brilliant crowdwork with a kid named Ethan on this track of the Comedy Death Ray album.

Do you have a fave clip/track of a standup doing crowdwork? Link it up in the comments.

Standup as a means to a different end (e.g. screenwriting)

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:34:00 +0000

Lee Hurwitz is thinking about trying standup and sent me a note. Here's his question and how I responded:

While the idea of performing stand up definitely intrigues me, my ultimate goal is to be a comedic screenwriter. I write all the time, but writing and getting my writing out there are two very different things. I have been thinking that maybe by trying to do some stand up, I can get my name out there a little bit (amongst other comedians) and network with other like minded people. But I know that stand up is obviously tough enough in its own right, and I don't know if getting into it just to try to later get into screenwriting is a pointless idea. Do you have any thoughts on this matter?

I def think standup is a smart move, even if you ultimately just want to be a writer.

One time I was talking with a big shot writer/producer who also does standup. I asked him where standup fits in. He pointed at the stage and said "That's the hardest thing to do. If you can do standup, you can do anything."

I think it's a solid point. There's nothing tougher than getting up on stage and facing that judgement of a roomful of people while trying to elicit a primal response from them. It's so unforgiving. But that's why it'll also tighten up everything else you do. It'll raise your bullshit radar. It's no coincidence that people like Tina Fey, Judd Apatow, Larry David, Woody Allen, Dave Chappelle, etc. were all stage performers first before they began writing for the screen.

It's easy to sit at home and write stuff and think it's brilliant. When you get up in front of a crowd, you quickly realize most of your brilliant stuff is actually crap. And you get to figure that out quickly, in small chunks. With screenwriting, you have to put in a huge investment of time before you ever get any feedback at all. I'd say put your ideas to the test right away in a real-life setting and see how they fly. If anything it'll make you a more ruthless editor — the world could certainly use more of those.

Show calendar

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:20:00 +0000

This Google calendar (below) lists all of my upcoming spots.

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I cohost We're All Friends Here, the comedy chat show with boundary issues, once a month. Other dates are usually me doing shorter spots on other people's shows.

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Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:00:00 PDT

Video: Colbert, in Iraq, on "don't ask, don't tell"
Andrew Sullivan's commentary: "Why are the comedians the only ones with the balls large enough to make sense?"

Some good '07 posts from Sandpaper Suit

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:00 +0000

At the end of last year, I put up a list of the best posts at Sandpaper Suit in 2008. Going back even further, here are a few posts from 2007 that stood out:

Steve Martin's advice for making it as a comic: "Be undeniably good"
Moby's #1 fan is out to get me
Rhythm in standup and music
"Stage time in this city is too valuable to waste"
5 reasons new comics should stop listening to albums and tv specials by famous comics
How Chris Rock works out new material in a small club
Chris Rock and I "share" a bill again
"Funny" isn't what makes people laugh
Video: Simon Beauregard's Guide to America

Top '09 posts so far can be found in the "best of" category.

Think Tank: Off Broadway

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:38:00 +0000

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Comedy contest advice from Myq Kaplan

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:18:00 +0000

Me to Myq Kaplan:

Hey man. I'm entered in a comedy competition for the first time next week. Since you're the master at winning these things, I wonder if you have any advice. Five minute set in the first round. Should I hit 'em with quicker jokes and one-liners only? Or ok to do longer bits (like that mom/weed one)? Any other advice?

Myq's reply:

well, since i'm also in that competition i think (NY comedy contest),
my answer depends on whether you're in my first round
jk lol

but to answer your question seriously and sincerely (or sneakily and deceptively, who can tell?),

the general advice i would give to anyone in general is to be yourself, the comic that you are at your best, doing the stuff that hopefully both you enjoy and that an audience will enjoy the most

more specifically though, to actually give more of an answer...

it's a good question, and a relevant one to someone like you who has access to material of both sorts...

i wouldn't say absolutely that you should only hit them with quicker jokes, but i will say that some people with only longer storyish bits sometimes do find themselves less fortunate in situations like this--the guy who won the seattle competition the year i did it was damonde tschritter, a strong story-teller, who did consistently very very well in the semis and finals, which were rounds of 10-12 minutes and 15-20 minutes, respectively
but i believe he Almost didn't make it out of the first round, which was 5-minute sets

in my experience, as someone who Does have mainly shorter jokes, or longer bits that are made of shorter frequent laugh lines, i've found some measure of success in contests

but it's certainly not only this type of comic or act that Can succeed in contests

baron vaughn did make it to the finals of the boston comedy festival his first year in it, and his jokes are quite elaborate and lengthy, i would say
and he did it because he was himself, and his self is Hilarious

back to specifics of your question for You--because you've got the power to hit people hard and fast, and that can be advantageous with such a short time limit, i'd say it could be a benefit to take advantage of, but again, your whole five minutes needn't be that...

you could open with two minutes of it, and then some longer stuff
or whatever other mathematical combination you like

plus a hilarious, poignant, and relevant conclusion

hope that was helpful, but not helpful enough to beat me if we end up facing each other

art fight!

Check out Myq's blog Godzillionaire.

Suntanning and that "healthy glow"

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:26:00 +0000

Interesting fact: Ms. Hawaiian Tropic 2009 is also Ms. Skin Cancer 2038.

It's weird that being tan is considered healthy since it's just a sign that you're burning your skin. "How'd you get that healthy glow?" "House fire. Third degree burns. If it wasn't for these embarrassing tan lines, I'd show you my black lung!"

And what's with these people who tan before going on vacation? Y'know, the ones who say, "I'm building a foundation." Foundation? Then before I go on vacation, I should just do three weeks of Vicodin and Ecstacy. Form a base. That way I don't scare off the locals when I get there.

1) Subscribe and 2) WatchThinkTank.com is live

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:39:00 +0000

You can get Sandpaper Suit delivered to you by email. One email a day, includes links from "The Pocket" too. Or here's the RSS feed if you're one of those types.

Also, just set up WatchThinkTank.com, a site for the new web series Mark and I are doing. Will keep posting 'em here at Sandpaper Suit too so not really anything special if you're a regular reader here. But if ya want to subscribe just to Think Tank and not to the rest of this site, ya can do that there.

Btw, next week's episode may be my favorite one yet. Stay tuned.

What's the job of a comedian?

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:29:00 +0000

This post from last week led to some interesting discussion about what the job of a comedian should be. Is it to entertain? To make people fell comfortable? To make them feel uncomfortable but ok with that?

In "The Making of Zach Galifianakis" [via MD], Zach says:

Wherever there’s something that people don’t feel comfortable talking about, that’s where the good jokes are. People might misunderstand you, but I decided, right after my show was canceled, never to dumb my material down for anybody. A bad comic follows his audience, catering to whatever they want; a good comic will always lead.

Playwright Noel Coward once said [via JW] this about the theater (and maybe you could substitute standup in here?):

I think the primary purpose of the theater is entertainment. If by any chance a playwright wishes to express a political opinion or a moral opinion or a philosophy, he must be a good enough craftsman to do it with so much spice of entertainment in it that the public gets the message without being aware of it. The moment the public sniffs propaganda, they stay away.

One key factor on this: The stage of your career. When you're just starting out and making a name for yourself and trying to get paid and all the rest of it, can you really afford to be precious about your art? Can you get away with making people feel uncomfortable then? Or do you have to suck it up for a while and be a real crowd-pleaser before you get to the point where you can afford to turn people off? Except for anomalies like Andy Kaufman, maybe you need to spend years proving you can make people feel comfortable before you start making them uncomfortable.

Think Tank: Karate

noreply@blogger.com (Matt Ruby) — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:22:00 +0000

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