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		<title>Review: Taking Woodstock</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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The original Woodstock Festival took place in 1969 and was later known as a pivotal cultural moment in history. It originated as a corporate venture that brought great artists together in front of a 500,000-strong audience. In 1970, a documentary was made about the music festival. Elliot Tiber, the man who offered the use of [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The original Woodstock Festival took place in 1969 and was later known as a pivotal cultural moment in history. It originated as a corporate venture that brought great artists together in front of a 500,000-strong audience. In 1970, a documentary was made about the music festival. Elliot Tiber, the man who offered the use of his family property to the festival’s organisers, published his story in 2007. Subsequently, Ang Lee (of Brokeback Mountain fame) based his movie Taking Woodstock on Elliot’s memoir.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This, of course, I learnt from Wikipedia. Yes, I am unfortunately quite bereft of music history knowledge and shockingly clueless about the hippie subculture. Fortunately for me, I found the movie quite accessible, and I think that Ang Lee was throwing the net wide, allowing those of us who may not know their pop culture history to have their heartstrings tugged by a simple, human story.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Taking Woodstock is, at heart, the timeless, tireless tale of a young man&#8217;s journey. While putting together the music festival, Elliot also finds freedom and courage, and we gradually get to know him, his family, the circumstances surrounding his life and what it could have been like for a gay man growing up in those times. Demetri Martin gives a believable, heartfelt performance as Elliot, so I was surprised to hear that he is mostly known for being a comedian. The entire cast delivers a stellar show, from the excellent Liev Schreiber as the crossdressing Vilma to Elliot&#8217;s inimitable parents. The storytelling is fairly well-paced, with a good mix of comedy and drama that keep the slower scenes at the beginning interesting.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">With so much going on in the foreground, the actual music of Woodstock becomes mere backdrop. Ang Lee&#8217;s Woodstock is far from a documentary about the times, or even about Woodstock itself. I would prefer to call it a portrait of the emotional life of the times. The movie brings home the peripherals of Woodstock, personalising the environment and culture without trying to show what many would call the heart of it – the music. For me it was like a sepia photograph, giving a layer of reality to the sixties without taking the tint of nostalgia from it. This was perhaps the filmmaker’s recognition that no one could capture the grandeur of such a cultural icon.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">As a portrait, I thought it was very successful. I caught a glimpse of a bohemian laissez-faire, an idealistic attitude to life that wasn&#8217;t afraid of being spiritual, trying new things, being different or just being. The movie shows us the beauty of an era that was ripening into a particular brand of individualism and an increased acceptance of LGBT people in the world.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Taking Woodstock clearly celebrates the hippie culture, although it does raise some possibly problematic issues such as drug and alcohol use. LGBT viewers may also be able to relate to Elliot’s closeted situation and the tug between familial obligation and being true to yourself.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I enjoyed the movie a lot for what it is, a sweet and funny confection that opens up a world of ambiguous promise.</p>
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		<title>Review: “The Abomination of the Blue Hibiscus” by Ovidia Yu</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Abomination of the Blue Hibiscus is a short story by Ovidia Yu, published in the Year&#8217;s Best Lesbian Fiction 2008 edited by Fran Walker. She requested that I review the story, whether or not I read the entire book.
Hibiscus is a short, heart-warming story about a lesbian woman and her partner, at her mother&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The<em> Abomination of the Blue Hibiscus</em> is a short story by Ovidia Yu, published in the <em>Year&#8217;s Best Lesbian Fiction 2008</em> edited by Fran Walker. She requested that I review the story, whether or not I read the entire book.</p>
<p><em>Hibiscus </em>is a short, heart-warming story about a lesbian woman and her partner, at her mother&#8217;s funeral. Clearly Ovidia seems to love this theme &#8211; story actually reminded me quite a bit of the story she wrote a couple of years ago and read at our Indignation event, <a href="http://blog.sayoni.com/2007/07/29/indignation-event-tall-tales-and-short-stories/">Tall Tales and Short Stories</a>, called <em><a href="http://blog.sayoni.com/2007/10/19/pierced-years/">Pierced Years</a></em>. Personally, I much preferred <em>Pierced Years</em> to <em>Hibiscus</em>, though both are valuable contributions to the corpus of Singaporean lesbian literature.</p>
<p>But what makes this story different is the closetted homophobic maiden aunt character that is more central than the couple themselves. The character was quite obviously inspired by a &#8220;well-loved&#8221; persona, and quite hateable in her portrayal, but with a resigned acceptance of her place in the family. Having said that, I found the characterisation too much of a caricature, and perhaps it could have been toned down a little, made more subtle. I also much loved the way blue hibiscuses were used in the story.</p>
<p><em>Hibiscus</em> stands out for its layered family relationships laced with shades of acceptance.  While not Ovidia&#8217;s best work, the story is readable. I had a chance to read some of the other stories at random (but not the entire book), and I can say the stories are not too bad &#8211; some of them are cliche and sometimes centres too much on the lesbian identity, but as a collection, it is worth having on your bookshelf.</p>
<p><em>Year&#8217;s Best Lesbian Fiction 2008 is available at Books Actually.</em></p>
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		<title>AWARE fundraiser (Singapore)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you booked your seats for The Blue Mansion?
The Blue Mansion

Don’t miss the special screening of Glen Goei’s latest film The Blue Mansion on 15th October. It’s a fundraising premiere and the net proceeds will go to AWARE.
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<p>The Blue Mansion<br />
<img src="http://www.aware.org.sg/wp-content/uploads/bluemansionlogo2.jpg" alt="" /><br />
Don’t miss the special screening of Glen Goei’s latest film The Blue Mansion on 15th October. It’s a fundraising premiere and the net proceeds will go to AWARE.</p>
<p>Don’t miss the special screening of Glen Goei’s latest film The Blue Mansion on 15th October. It’s a fundraising premiere and the net proceeds will go to AWARE.</p>
<p>There will be a pre-movie cocktail reception where you can meet Glen and members of his cast. They include Lim Kay Siu, Adrian Pang, Neo Swee Lin, Emma Yong, Claire Wong, Tan Kheng Hua, and Huzir Sulaiman.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.aware.org.sg/wp-content/uploads/bluemansion_yacht1.jpg" alt="" /><br />
Remember to bring your business card because there will be a business card draw and you could win a 4-hour cruise valued at $3,000, with soft drinks and snacks, for 10 people on this yacht.</p>
<p>Buy a block of 20 seats and you will get:<br />
A token of appreciation from Glen<br />
A photo session with Glen and the cast members.<br />
If your company buys blocks of 10 or 20 seats, we’ll put your company’s logo on our webpage and other material.</p>
<p>Get all the sponsorship details here.<br />
Event details:<br />
Date: Thursday 15th October<br />
Venue: GV Grand 6, Great World City<br />
(Cocktail reception at the Garden Terrace)<br />
Time: 7.30pm</p>
<p>Price: Tickets are $50 each (Tax deductible)<br />
Book your seats now – send email to bluemansion@aware.org.sg or call Rina at 6779-7137</p>
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		<title>Review 2: No More Daddy’s Little Girl</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note from the editors: In the recent weeks, we published a review of the book No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl by Karen Lee. That review generated much heated discussion by people on both sides of the camp about the merits of the book. In order to give our readers both sides of the story, we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>Note from the editors: In the recent weeks, we published a <a href="http://blog.sayoni.com/2009/09/03/no-more-daddys-little-girl/">review</a> of the book </em>No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl<em> by Karen Lee. That review generated much heated discussion by people on both sides of the camp about the merits of the book. In order to give our readers both sides of the story, we are a publishing a reader-submitted review offering a different view from the previous. </em><em>Neither reviews are indicative of Sayoni&#8217;s official view in any way.<br />
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>This guest writer goes by the name of Jane Jones.<br />
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Two weeks ago, a friend handed me <em>No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl</em>, after we had casually discussed the one official review posted so far and some negative opinions by our mutual acquaintances. I had not been inclined to read the book when I first heard of it, as I had the notion that autobiographies ought only to be written by people of special interest or distinction, with something important to address and educate others about. Coming out stories are a dime a dozen, and ordinary people tend not to write an entire autobiography on this selling point alone. Curiosity began to replace vague disinterest. Are the review and opinions accurate or justified? It was only fair that I read the book and decide for myself. And so over the weekend, I did.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">From reading the blurb and proud declaration that it is the first local lesbian autobio, I had expected this book to illuminate me on how Karen discovered herself vis-a-vis her sexuality and came out in the end (no pun intended) triumphant over the obstacles in her way to lead a life with love and acceptance from her faith, family, friends and herself. I expected that most of the life experiences recounted in her book would be in respect of this, her discovery and journey of being lesbian. Unfortunately, I have to conclude that the book failed to deliver on these expectations.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">My curiosity gave way to a dominant feeling of horror and pain. Not at what happens to Karen in her self-described arduous journey &#8211; but horror at the spectacularly atrocious level of English and pain at the sheer number of random unconnected events and sometimes entirely irrelevant digressions which I was subjected to. In her recounting of her life from childhood to the period shortly after her marriage, I felt like I was reading <em>The Life of Karen Lee</em> in an extended primary schooler&#8217;s <em>Dear Diary</em> format, with no concept of  narrative flow.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The language is juvenile &#8211; examples: &#8220;She didn&#8217;t have brown eyes but really deep blue eyes which were as deep as the deep blue sea.&#8221; and &#8220;&#8230; there she was smoking like a broken chimney and drinking like an alcoholic.&#8221;. Tenses are used wrongly or mixed up and switched without regard &#8211; example: &#8220;At this time, the incipient tingling sensation in my crotch then was now a throbbing ache. She was still holding my left hand so I used my right index finger to press down my crotch ensuring that the sensational feeling was under control. Phew, it&#8217;s now under control.&#8221; Some common phrases are misquoted almost out of recognition� (examples: refer to above on smoking and drinking), and the twisted sentence structure and disjointed narration (examples: read the book) make it a Herculean task to complete reading the book with sanity intact.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I was unable to connect with Karen or any of the other characters in her life as the narration was kept to simple straightforward descriptions of physical looks and events. There was scant character development of the other people in her life, or any in-depth examination of Karen&#8217;s interactions with them and the impact of the events which occurred. The emotional distance was made worse by the inconsistencies and contradictions in Karen&#8217;s opinions on various topics. Karen tends to highlight her self-perceived moral superiority, importance or attractiveness as the main thrust of every event (examples: saturating the first few chapters with how she is loved more than her sister by her family, how she was the person who &#8220;saved the victory&#8221; of her basketball competition and dared to vocalise her personal disgust at the Thais for eating frogs). She has a penchant for physically labelling each individual lady upon meeting them (examples: read the book). While her self-aggrandizing style was amusing at first, it shortly grew tiresome and left me wondering at the otherwise pointlessness of the book.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Her treatment of the topic of sexuality was, to me, disrespectful and ignorant. Early on in the book, she recounted the story of a transgender who eventually did not undergo the sex change operation as the hospital burnt down, attributing that to a sign of the Christian God. By relating the Christian God&#8217;s displeasure with the man to the problems he faced and the man&#8217;s and Karen&#8217;s rejoicing in the Godly resolution, she hinted of her own disapproval of the man undergoing the operation. Shortly after, in the long digression of her description of Thailand, Karen wrote thus: &#8220;Thailand&#8230; is a popular city of red light districts among tourists from all over the world. It is lit up with child prostitution, child pornography, sex slavery, homosexuality, and occult beliefs.&#8221; Putting aside her cultural insensitivity and unsubstantiated &#8220;accusations of sins&#8221; in Thailand, Karen inexplicably includes homosexuality in the list of infamy. A very telling line.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">In her coming out email, Karen drops two bombshells, first revealing that she is gay, and then an incident of sexual abuse as a child. The uncanny link of revealing the two bombshells together invites the reader to infer that her orientation is the causal effect of the unfortunate incident. In other parts of the book, Karen demonstrates a casual attitude and fickleness towards relationships initiated mainly by physical attraction and lust. Even on her wedding day, the thoughts running through Karen&#8217;s mind were those of uncertainty at wanting to be with her wife forever, and even of another woman whom she had earlier claimed was trying to take advantage of her in a vulnerable period.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">She broad-brushes her coming out and acceptance &#8211; one is reduced to an email, the other to a family visit with shallow exploration of the events. In a book which purports to be the first local lesbian autobio, I found her treatment greatly disappointing. While in any other situation, Karen would have no duty to be a positive representation of local lesbian women, she did choose to take and use the banner of being the first local lesbian autobio writer to promote her &#8220;coming out&#8221; book. For a minority which is besieged by enough unfairness in life, Karen does no favours by reinforcing the negative public stereotypes of homosexuals as superficial, sex-driven deviants formed by traumatic childhood incidents. That said, I truly admire Karen&#8217;s courage in unreservedly putting herself on display for the world to see.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I am unable to recommend this book. The writing is groundbreakingly bad, and its contents add nothing to the understanding of the human condition as a person, lesbian or not. It is my sincere hope that Karen Lee develops her writing skills before undertaking future endeavours.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Recommended reading:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>From Leonard to Leona</em> by Leona Lo</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>SQ21</em> by Ng Yi-Sheng</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>Editor&#8217;s Note: Please note that this review is the author&#8217;s personal opinion and does not reflect the official position of Sayoni in any way. Futhermore, Sayoni Speak will not accept any new reviews or blog entries about the book &#8220;No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl&#8221;. We seek the readers&#8217; understanding and cooperation.<br />
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Date: Wednesday, 30 September 2009
Time: 21:00 &#8211; 23:00
Location: Shaw Lido 1 (Shaw Centre, Scotts Road)
Fridae presents the Taking Woodstock Fundraising Gala Premiere in Singapore on Sep 30. 100% of ticket sales will go towards funding gay-related community projects.
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Date: Wednesday, 30 September 2009</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Time: 21:00 &#8211; 23:00</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Location: Shaw Lido 1 (Shaw Centre, Scotts Road)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Fridae presents the Taking Woodstock Fundraising Gala Premiere in Singapore on Sep 30. 100% of ticket sales will go towards funding gay-related community projects.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Directed by Academy Award-winning director Ang Lee (who brought us what were to become gay classics The Wedding Banquet and Brokeback Mountain), Taking Woodstock is based on the memoirs of a young gay man Elliot Tiber (Demetri Martin). Tiber, then a struggling young interior designer in New York City, had recently returned to his parents&#8217; rundown motel in the Catskill Mountains when he heard that a planned concert had lost its permit from the neighbouring town of Wallkill. He then called producer Michael Lang (Jonathan Groff) at Woodstock Ventures providing a much-needed performance permit and offering his motel as the production headquarters.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The 1969 Woodstock Music and Arts Festival, which attracted 500,000 people, turned out to be one of the most iconic events of the hippie generation and is today widely regarded to be one of the greatest and most pivotal moments in popular music history.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">100% of ticketing proceeds will go towards funding gay-related community projects.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Since 2005, Fridae has organised six movie-fundraisers raising over S$60,000 in benefit of a variety of NGOs including Action for AIDS, AWARE, Cat Welfare Society; two independent short films by Boo Junfeng and Loo Zihan; and Indignation &#8211; which Fridae has financially and in other ways supported since it was first held in 2005. Pink Dot, the first-ever official LGBT public gathering held in May 2009 in Singapore, was also a beneficiary of Fridae&#8217;s Milk Fundraising Gala Premiere held earlier this year.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Date: 30 Sep 2009 (Wednesday)<br />
Time: 8 pm (Reception for VIPs from 7 pm)<br />
Venue: Shaw Lido 1 (Shaw Centre, Scotts Road)<br />
Tickets: USS$7 (Zuji Promotion) / US$10 (Standard) / S$50 (VIP*)<br />
* VIP Tickets include goodie bags, pre-show reception and premium seats.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Ticketing and more info: <a onmousedown="UntrustedLink.bootstrap($(this), &quot;b3de086f46940797545d4a2e343cc223&quot;, event)" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.fridae.com/takingwoodstock/" target="_blank">http://www.fridae.com/takingwoodstock/</a></p>
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		<title>Review: No More Daddy’s Little Girl</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl&#8221;- a book by Karen Lee.
Before i read Karen Lee&#8217;s book, i received plenty of� comments pertaining to it.
Most of them were negative, criticizing aspects from grammar and style of writing to content.
I bought the book anyway, complete with her autograph on it. You never know till you read it, i [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8220;No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl&#8221;- a book by Karen Lee.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Before i read Karen Lee&#8217;s book, i received plenty of� comments pertaining to it.<br />
Most of them were negative, criticizing aspects from grammar and style of writing to content.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I bought the book anyway, complete with her autograph on it. You never know till you read it, i thought to myself. Besides, i believe in supporting the first Singaporean lesbian autobiography. In the same train of thought [to support local queer writings], i bought the Chinese publication &#8220;tong lei&#8221; by OC. I finished the book in a couple of days, snatching moments before bedtime and during dinnertime.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The first half of the book touched on her early crushes, with a heavy emphasis on her involvement in Girls&#8217; Brigade. Parts of the book provided information in somewhat random chunks. Sometimes the pieces were too brief to comprehend in detail. A characteristic, i surmised, as a result of length constraint. After sharing childhood memories, the story segued into her stints in Australia, Sweden and eventually Canada.<span id="more-582"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The greatest criticism was probably on content. Someone commented that the book is screwed up because Karen implied that she is gay as a result of being molested in her childhood. Indeed, in her coming out email to her parents, the uncanny pairing of the coming out declaration with the molest incident hinted at perceived causality. The person went on to say that the book gives fundies ammunition to target the lesbian population: you are gay because you are screwed up in your childhood. It was also pointed out that the book reflects badly on romantic relationships in the community. You can imagine a fundie going &#8220;look at how many flings Karen had! This is evidence that lesbian relationships are unstable.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8220;She&#8217;s probably a screwed up lesbian,&#8221; was the concluding remark.<br />
Coupled with Karen&#8217;s continuous struggles with reconciling her faith and sexuality throughout the book, it&#8217;s easy to see why some do not find the book uplifting.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">But there were little entertaining bits here and there that amused me greatly. Karen&#8217;s ego and narcissism had me guffawing. Her confidence exuded from the very pages. She declared her own leadership, discipline and attractiveness. The audacity of demanding for someone&#8217;s girlfriend was appalling and amusing at the same time. In retort to any reader&#8217;s immediate question &#8220;how can you do that? She&#8217;s attached!&#8221;, Karen&#8217;s justification was one of standing up for <em>her</em> affections.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The book has several ingredients for a grabbing piece: horrifying incidents [e.g., lesbian almost-stabbing drama], the agony of being at odds with God, love, fleeting attractions, sex, eventual familial acceptance and so on. It&#8217;s certainly not a boring piece. No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl sent me through a torrent of emotions, ranging from exasperation to amusement. I raised my eyebrows, rolled my eyes, laughed and melted. I felt like i was sitting down with an acquaintance over coffee, listening to her life stories. Somewhat conversational [which might explain the writing style/grammar/sentence structure].</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">As i put the book down, sweetness overflowing from the last chapter on familial acceptance, i mulled over the merits and demerits of the book. Yes, i agree the book does not help the current negative stereotypes of lesbian women in Singapore. Yes, it is sad that people still attribute homosexuality to some childhood mishap. And certainly, it is rather sobering that some people cannot reconcile their sexuality and faith. But the book is about Karen&#8217;s working paradigm of her sexuality, spirituality and the world. Some lesbian women do think in such and such a way.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I define an autobiography as a life story worth a read.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">As an autobiography, i think No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl has delivered.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">A short note from Karen:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">&#8220;No More Daddy&#8217;s Little Girl&#8221; is an autobio written by Karen Lee. The book is available nationwide at most major bookstores such as Borders Whee Lock, Kinokuniya (Ngee Ann City &amp; Bugis Junction), MPH (Novena, Robinson Road,Raffles City and CityLink mall), Select Books @ Tanglin Shopping Centre and Oohtique. Also 24 POPULAR bookstore branches. Do pick up a copy to support me! Thank you!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>Editor&#8217;s Note: Please note that this review is the author&#8217;s personal opinion and does not reflect the official position of Sayoni in any way.</em></p>
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Yesterday Sayoni organised a forum titled �United We Fall, Divided We Stand?� for Indignation. For those who could not make it, the event was covered live on our twitter. We reproduce the report here for you. We also would like to take this opportunity to thank all the people who made this event possible &#8211; [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Yesterday Sayoni organised a forum titled �United We Fall, Divided We Stand?� for Indignation. For those who could not make it, the event was covered live on our <a href="http://www.twitter.com/_sayoni">twitter</a>. We reproduce the report here for you. We also would like to take this opportunity to thank all the people who made this event possible &#8211; photo/videographers, ushers, receptionists, logistics, voluntweers, and just anyone who helped out from the conception of the event to the execution.</p>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">14:28:06</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Sun is shining and time is ripe to start our event!   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">14:51:22</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Going to start soon!  Indu chasing people to sit   down #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">14:54:26</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Moderator: Sam Ho.. Panelists: Stuart Koe, Hui Yee,   Jaime Low, Bryan Choong. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">14:51:38</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SH: This debate will explore the issues concerning   our LGBT community along the axis of gender. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">14:59:01</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Topic of debate: Can our LGBT community actually   work better if we stay divided instead of being united? Pro: SK &amp; HY.   Opp: JL &amp; BC #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">14:02:50</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: Is the shared desire for same-sex relationships   enough to keep us together? Fridae has tried to bring together men and   women#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:05:11</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">[Note: Proposition=&gt; United We Fall, Divided   We Stand; Opposition=&gt; United We Stand, Divided We Fall] #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:06:40</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY (2nd speaker of proposition): all of us grew up   with heterosexual norms. But as LGBT people we need separate spaces&#8230;   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:06:56</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230;to avoid falling back into those heterosexual   norms #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:08:00</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">If a lesbian walks into a gay-man dominated space,   she may not feel that she can say what she wants. We need a space to &#8230;   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:09:10</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; find and nurture our own voice. 1 eg: Thru   running WomensNite, a lesbian space, I&#8217;ve seen women grow in confidence   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:10:42</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Next speaker is Jaime Low from FCC #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:11:48</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">JL(1st speaker of the opp): perhaps idealistic that   we have to work together. How many of us work in a purely single-sex   workplace#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:12:38</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">it is not practical to work separately. there is   limited experience if we segregate. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:14:02</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">integration also helps to eliminate stereotypes. we   should work together to build stronger ties within the community #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:16:13</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">let there be space for single genders, but to move   the community ahead, we have to work together. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:16:46</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC (from OC): Has had little chance to understand   women until 2005 when they did a workshop. 6/12 were women participants.   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:19:09</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Realised when we break it down to the basics, we   are all the same, beyond labels. Has wondered y women are particular&#8230;   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:20:53</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; people are actually different from what he was   brought up to believe. Differences are impt, &amp; org cannot continue if   segregated #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:22:23</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Why gay men should be concerned with AWARE too.   Not a gay men thing, but because he sees himself as part of society #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:22:36</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; should cross the gender boundary to work   together #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:23:09</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Now the Proposition and Opposition shall dialogue.</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:24:14</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: In some contexts, appropriate to hv both genders   together, and some not. Misogynistic world, men do dominate in many contexts   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:25:00</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; for women to earn that space, is something they   fight for and that guys should respect. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:25:25</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; At the end of the day, what brings us together   is our humanity. Laws that treat both men and women differently. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:26:15</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; But for social spaces, why should we insist that   men and women should hang out together? #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:28:08</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC: you can learn so much more by hanging out with a   person of the opposite sex #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:28:59</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230;that is how you build a relationship, by getting   to know people as friends, in a close emotional relationship#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:30:26</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY: agree that there is a common agenda, eg remove   discrimination. but how we achieve that is different #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:30:45</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">just by pulling in any random lesbian into a gay   male project is tokenism#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:32:54</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">JL: Dialogue should take place for understanding to   happen. Can&#8217;t be tokenism. Start in social context,know each other as frens   1st #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:33:14</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">if you don#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:34:19</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SH: Question for Prop &#8211; what does the community   stand to lose if we work together? #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:35:07</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: our differences and our diversity is our   strength. by becoming homogeneous we will weaken the community</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:36:06</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC: Prefers to say &#8220;diverse we stand&#8221;.   (SH: But what would work in S&#8217;pore?) #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:36:38</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC: Need to make conscious effort, create the space.   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:37:07</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">JL: Younger generation doesn&#8217;t face this issue   anymore (i.e. don&#8217;t want to wk with gay men). Gender divide will ultimately   fall. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:37:50</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Discussion has been opened to the floor. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:38:29</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: You don&#8217;t actually disagree with each other   at all. What exactly is JL &amp; BC&#8217;s point? Within FCC &amp; OC, also   women&#8217;s supp grps #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:39:03</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; we can work together while not ignoring the fact   that we have differences. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:40:21</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC: OC and FCC have always had men and women working   together for specific things. But more can be done. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:40:36</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: What is the diff between the 2 positions?   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:41:24</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">JL: Differences are not that great. Gender   stereotype if we talk abt fundamental differences. We can still work   together. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:42:04</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230;also grp of people who are more comfortable with   own spaces. But idea is to move them along &#8211; in soc we hv to mix with opp sex   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:43:16</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: Definition of &#8216;divided&#8217;? Differing   definitions. Recognition of diversity is not the same as pitting oneself   against another #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:43:48</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Grps out there interested in dividing us amongst   ourselves. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:45:00</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: there are outside parties trying to use   &#8220;wedge politics&#8221; to divide the community, ie divide and conquer   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:46:42</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY: there is a need for intra-community dialogue,   but each of us needs to stand up and speak out against false claims directed   at us#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:47:00</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: Shouldn&#8217;t even have to debate on those grounds,   of gay promiscuity, because it happens among straight people too. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:48:14</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230;religious conservatives are using this against   gay men, but we should not defend ourselves. Or even if its nature or   nurture. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:48:22</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; It is about choice. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:48:42</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY: Promiscuity = stereotype? #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:49:18</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: More common for guys to divide sex from   emotions. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:49:35</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SH: Gender essentialist debate? Back to   floor.#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:50:09</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: An even more pressing reason for   alliance/collaboration is it is important to sensitise us to internalised   sexism #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:51:06</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; even in queer settings. E.g. Stewart mentioned   TLA, called her speech schoolgirl with notecards. Belittling tone. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:51:42</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Bryan&#8217;s ref to what turns queer women on. This   framing of women contributes to widespread sexism. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:52:03</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Even more important to use chances of   collaboration to become more aware to combat these common habits of speech.   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:52:38</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC: Not an attack upon women but recognition that   she is female. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:53:15</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY: Misogynist society, misogynist terms come up all   the time. Wrong to hold back from saying what&#8217;s on your mind &#8211; limiting   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:53:53</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; These terms of reference can be construed as   sexist, and that should be the starting point of any debate. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:54:10</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; We should recognise the sexual norms we are   brought up in order to work together. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:54:45</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC: We should create a space where we can make   mistakes together. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:55:13</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SH: Is internal misogny the real problem here?   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:55:40</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: We need a gender-specific space for women,   because often it is too internalised. In mixed gender space, norms we hv   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">15:55:56</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; internalised act up #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:56:18</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY: In Women&#8217;s Nite, women say they don&#8217;t know what   women want! #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:56:59</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: In Sg, we can be united over specific topics,   in response to attacks. But when things are okay #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:57:30</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; we might be divided. Was expecting Stewart to   emphasise how we do need to be divided. Need gay men to have their own stuff   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">15:58:16</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; The more separate we are, the more powerful we   are. Rather have many grps than one big gay men/women group. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">15:59:46</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Not here to fight over heteronormativity. I   don&#8217;t want to be with lesbians only. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:00:35</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: Thought we shld be divided to survive rather   than staying apart from each other. What abt us and the larger community?   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:02:02</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: Forced into the position by the debate format.   People are brought together by common goals. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:02:38</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Sometimes women and men can work together,   sometimes it doesn&#8217;t happen, depends on the context. E.g. org what type of   party. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:03:19</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY: Clarification &#8211; heterosexual norms meant the   assumptions we make abt men and women, that men are assertive/women are   demure. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">16:04:13</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230;heteronormativity doesn&#8217;t come in here #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:05:18</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: Lesbians dont need gay men to speak for them,   we can speak for ourselves, but we need to grow to a point to be able to do   tt#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:06:50</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230;we need to have separate groups to nurture and   grow our voices before we can speak for ourselves #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:07:40</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">having many groups is better than one single big   group. many diff gay voices representing diff gay ppl makes us more powerful   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:09:10</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: Division always occurs when there are   differences. We tend to divide ourselves according to the constructs we live   with. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:09:53</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; But we can also choose to divide ourselves by   norms we choose ourselves. Historically, people banded 2gether 2 face   challenges. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:11:09</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230;  Church grps are very organised. And we still   have questions among ourselves. Are we divided? united? goal for this talk?   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:11:50</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; What history do we fall back on, leave behind?   How can we move our community forward? Good to hv more grps, #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:12:10</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">ways to develop ourselves individually and as a   community. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:13:59</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: maybe the way to dialogue within the LGBT   community is not so confrontationally but by having a platform #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:14:54</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">But having many queer groups actually confuses those   groups which are against the gay community #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:15:16</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: where is the Transgendered community in this   debate? #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:15:59</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: how long will it take before men are allowed   to attend Womens Nite? when will you know if women are confident enough to   &#8230;#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">16:16:15</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230;speak in front of men? #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:17:06</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: When will women feel okay to let gay men into   their spaces? e.g. Women&#8217;s Nite. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:18:45</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: Even men didn&#8217;t want to care about the repeal of   377A, and it was the women who said we have to standup for human rights   issues #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:19:37</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: We should ignore our differences and focus on   what we have in common instead. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">16:20:21</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY: Women need safe space (wrt Women&#8217;s Nite).   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:22:12</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: Surprised that people are talking about   institutionalised sexism. Gay men might be afraid of lesbian women, #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:22:45</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; if we expect someone to change, we need to   initiate that change, be friends with them first and educate them. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:23:37</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Danger of same-sex groups. Stop talking and do   not interact, comfortable in their own spaces. Prevents greater   understanding. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:24:26</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Although we have all these groups, we should   also make the effort to interact with people,shouldn&#8217;t let our impressions   stop us #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:25:56</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC: OC has a male-dominated image so we always   reinforce the fact that it is an all-sex group. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:30:04</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: Logical fallacy to saying that all women here   seem so confident and therefore no need for safe spaces. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:31:09</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">&#8230; Education, yes, but it is also important for   people outside the marginalised grp 2 be aware of blindness 2 their own   privilege  #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:31:45</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">floor: vice versa, if we were to say that a sauna is   open to women for a night, how many men will show up? #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:32:36</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Floor: if you (as a man) want to go to Women&#8217;s Nite,   what will you be able to contribute? #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="13">16:33:17</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">63 attendees at tonight&#8217;s event #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:33:55</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: We are all talking about the same thing.   Ultimately, we all have differences &amp; things we have in common, need to   acknowledge tt #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:34:52</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">SK: there are differences and each of us is unique;   we need to embrace that and each be individuals, not all from same   cookie-cutter#indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:36:53</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">HY: Not knowing is okay. We should be open to   educating pple who don&#8217;t know. We can learn a lot by coming out of our   comfort zones. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:37:45</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">JL: We should not let the differences stop us from   working with one another. Focus on similarities. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="39">16:38:33</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">BC: Sometimes anger comes from being comfortable   with yourself. If that common goal is removed, what bands us together?   #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:40:11</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">All the panelists and the moderator received flowers   from sayoni. #indigsg</td>
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<td class="xl24" height="26">16:47:32</td>
<td class="xl25" width="356">Thank you everyone for coming (and those reading),   and to our esteemed organisers! #indigsg</td>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">I attended a Sayoni forum last Saturday entitled &#8220;Are We There Yet?&#8221;*</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The forum covered the many inequalities that queer women suffer in comparison to heterosexuals, with reference to the 2008 Sayoni Survey Report. The AWARE saga was mentioned fairly frequently and prompted many from the floor to speak up to buttress or disagree with the panellists&#8217; ideas. There were words of encouragement, a discussion on what action we can and should take, the injunction to come out as gay; just to mention some issues that struck me most. The floor was very opinionated and passionate, with not a few male voices, including Alex Au&#8217;s.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">At one juncture, there was a split between the pragmatic and the idealistic approach to gay activism (using the latter term in a broad sense). Someone opined that we need to teach teenagers how to differentiate real feelings of attraction from puppy love; that is, how to tell that her same-sex attraction is just a phase or not. Alex Au disagreed, saying that we should not need to discriminate in the first place, that there should be nothing wrong with experimentation. Another member of the floor argued that we need to be realistic about this.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">After the forum, some of us got together. In the conversation that ensued, I had a strong sense of the difficulties that we face in our everyday lives. I think that each one of us, if we really go out and about, getting in touch with ground sentiment, are going to meet with a lot of resistance. That resistance is going to be hurtful. The environment we are in isn&#8217;t very kind or forgiving. (I believe that many will beg to differ on this point, and yes, it is relative.)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">However, the impact others can have really depends on the individual&#8217;s tolerance level, and, secondarily, how we choose to react to an action. I&#8217;m not saying I need to be able to take abuse. The way sensitivity works, if we understand the root causes of an emotion and are able to step back sufficiently from our trapped, subjective selves and have an underlying source of security, I think we can achieve a certain amount of freedom from the worst of hurts.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I think we need to be clear of where we stand, that it is perfectly okay to be gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered: anything but heterosexual and cisgendered. Sure, the science is fuzzy, the religious texts are difficult, and most of the time, there is very little certainty. But that&#8217;s okay. We are not meant to understand life thoroughly and pin it down to basic principles. Science, too, cannot illuminate everything. We need to build rafts for ourselves and one another and create that connectedness and rationality.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Frankly, I may just be building bunkers against assaults or trying to erect a bridge in my head between the different approaches to advancement of the cause. In truth, different ways of regarding the topic are necessary and even fundamental to any kind of change, either top-down or bottom-up.</p>
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Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009
Time: 2:00pm &#8211; 5:00pm
Location: 72-13 Theatreworks, Muhamad Sultan Road.
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RSVP on Facebook
LGBTQ � an umbrella term that seemingly unites us, in our diversity. We automatically assume that our non-heterosexuality means we are one community, with common goals and a common space. But are we really? Can men and women really work [...]]]></description>
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<p>Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009<br />
Time: 2:00pm &#8211; 5:00pm<br />
Location: 72-13 Theatreworks, Muhamad Sultan Road.</p>
<p><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;q=Muhamad+Sultan+Road%2C+Singapore%2C+Singapore">View map</a></p>
<p>RSVP on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=107398250196&amp;ref=ts">Facebook</a></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">LGBTQ � an umbrella term that seemingly unites us, in our diversity. We automatically assume that our non-heterosexuality means we are one community, with common goals and a common space. But are we really? Can men and women really work together in the gay rights movement? Are our differences too great, or are our common goals sufficient to keep us united?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">A panel of men and women experienced in working with the community take on this question in a debate format, exploring the questions from different angles and perspectives. Expect a night where we confront the dust bunnies under our carpet, and hopefully emerge with a better understanding of where we can head.</p>
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Yesterday Sayoni organised a forum titled &#8220;Are We There Yet?&#8221; for Indignation. For those who could not make it, the event was covered live on our twitter. We reproduce the report here for you. We also would like to take this opportunity to thank all the people who made this event possible &#8211; photo/videographers, ushers, [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yesterday Sayoni organised a forum titled &#8220;Are We There Yet?&#8221; for Indignation. For those who could not make it, the event was covered live on our <a href="http://www.twitter.com/_sayoni">twitter</a>. We reproduce the report here for you. We also would like to take this opportunity to thank all the people who made this event possible &#8211; photo/videographers, ushers, receptionists, logistics, voluntweers (ie the volunteer tweeters), and just anyone who helped out.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 19:32:54 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Things are being set up for &#8220;Are We There<br />
Yet&#8221;. This event is going to be reported live on twitter! #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 19:40:40 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">People are filing into the room rapidly #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 19:54:24 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">We haven&#8217;t started yet, but the crowd is 60 people<br />
and counting! There look to be more coming. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The panellists are taking their seats. We are about<br />
to start &#8220;Are we there yet?&#8221; Kelly is welcoming everyone to the<br />
Sayoni forum. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:03:07 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">The speakers are Alexandra Serrenti, Raqvind, Hui<br />
Yee, Swee Jean, and Jean. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:04:32 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Kelly: The first issue for the night is about the<br />
AWARE saga. Many queer women voted against the new exco and rallied others.<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Alex is speaking on her concerns with the ex-new<br />
exco. It only began an issue on sexuality later, after TSM appeared. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:08:02 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Alex: Would like to thank TSM for getting her<br />
involved in the community again. We as queer women need to speak up for<br />
ourselves #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:08:52 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Would like to encourage everyone to think abt their role<br />
as gay people and their involvement in the community. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Someone from the floor is saying that she identifies<br />
as a woman first and then as a lesbian, therefore wld speak up #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:11:05 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Jean: First impression was familiar names in AWARE<br />
from letter-writing #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:11:51 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Raqvind: The EGM was important in bringing up the<br />
gay issue, in everyday life as well. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:14:30 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Kelly has changed to a new PPT slide. New Exco&#8217;s<br />
stand vs Old Guard.CSE,SpiderLilies/Old Guard included queer women direct<br />
svcs etc #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:15:53 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: AWARE is neutral, simply tries to include all<br />
aspects of &#8216;woman&#8217;. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Kelly: Have your expectations shifted after the EGM?<br />
Several hands raised.#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Hui Yee: More about people, not just gay people, in<br />
Singapore making their voices heard. AWARE not explicitly gay-friendly. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:18:33 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Swee Jean (SJ): Should not downplay it; there were<br />
in fact many gay women in grp, played a significant part in the reaction<br />
&amp; votes #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:19:29 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">SJ: Standing up for self as lesbian and as women. Deeply<br />
disturbed that grp of unknowns wld do this. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:21:21 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Jean (JC): How many were here at Constance Singam&#8217;s<br />
talk? (Many hands raised) angry crowd of gay women<span> </span>etc. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:21:34 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">About 70 people in the room, including the speakers.<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Question abt whether it is a problem to<br />
conflate sexuality and women&#8217;s issues #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:24:46 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Abortion is never a lesbian issue? Sorry, but<br />
we are a subgroup within women. There are still lesbians who are dealg<br />
w/issue #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:25:26 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Kelly (KT): In Constance&#8217;s talk, she felt that Aware<br />
was doing enough by includg queer women. Not identity-based advocacy #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:26:03 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: &#8230;but issues-based advocacy. Don&#8217;t queer women<br />
have it pretty good already? some people ask. Will introduce the survey 2008<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:28:07 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: &#8230; also doing a report related to CEDAW. Survey<br />
findgs: (1) Education. Women experience attraction mostly in teenage yrs<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:29:45 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: How did you relate to that (i.e. lesbianism<br />
excluded from official sex education) in growing yrs? #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:31:07 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">JC: No role models in youth-seen as deviance. Coping<br />
w/shame,religion. Had wished for female role models. Instead, she had Alex Au<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:32:32 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">JC: Constance&#8217;s book abt history of women in Sg, did<br />
not mention queer women. Does not blame her&#8230; Cannot wait for pple to do<br />
this #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:33:35 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Alex Au: First met her in Sept 1997 (around there),<br />
when he was invited to give a talk at Substation. Constance was present.<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:34:11 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AA: &#8230;talk on basic sexual orientation. After the<br />
talk, she approached him and said she didn&#8217;t know who to ask abt these<br />
things. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:35:46 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">SJ: Comments on CSE &#8211; heartened to hear abt CSE,<br />
difficult to hear that it has been withdrawn. Wld hv been wonderful in sec<br />
sch. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:36:54 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">SJ: &#8230; to have been treated normally at that age if<br />
u talked to a teacher/dressed tomboyishly. Hope tt it&#8217;ll become more<br />
inclusive #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:39:00 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">HY: Had a qn once abt how 2 women have sex. We shld<br />
forgive them for not knowing. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:40:36 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">HY: At Women&#8217;s Night, we focus on learning fr each<br />
other. Focus on sharing. Be brave enough to share that bit of us. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:42:20 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Heard a talk once where it was said that it<br />
was immoral &amp; unnatural.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></p>
<p>#indigsg</td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:42:40 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Tried to take a neutral stand in health edn.<br />
Saddened for young pple in Sg. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:44:11 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: As someone who&#8217;s bisexual, told mother she<br />
was attracted 2 women, was told it was a phase. At 22 realised cld not be<br />
phase #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:44:30 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: &#8230;impt to teach women how to identify if the<br />
attraction is real #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:44:54 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Heterosexuals have support grps while gay<br />
people do not. She got to know Sayoni by chance on FB. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:45:31 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AA: (desperately needs to respond) The problem of knowing<br />
when puppy love is phase or the real thing. But why is that impt? #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:46:20 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AA: &#8230;so what if it is a phase? Trying to<br />
distinguish btw phasic love and non-phasic love (laughter)&#8230; #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:46:43 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AA: &#8230;it means that if it is a phase, we will get<br />
told it can&#8217;t be real &amp; we need to change! So what if it is a phase?<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:48:05 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: They say it is a phase because no one wants<br />
their kids to be gay!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Even in<br />
countries where gay rights r advanced, same prob #indigsg</span></p>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:48:39 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: &#8230;Long way to go. Shld be positive and say<br />
it&#8217;s okay. Not the most impt thing #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:49:34 </span></p>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 285.5pt;" width="286" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AA: Why do we talk down experimentation? #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:50:37 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: People can&#8217;t accept it now, need to push<br />
people slowly along. We&#8217;re not there yet. #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:51:39 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: Topic (2) Identity and Media Representation.<br />
Respondents thought sexuality was most impt aspect of identity, followed by gender<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:52:38 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">[Slide: fines and censorship by MDA for portrayal of<br />
same-sex activity or rships as normal] #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:53:26 </span></p>
</td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Alex (AS): Within any self, there are multiple<br />
identities. At some time, diff identities come to the fore due to<br />
circumstances. #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:56:09 </span></p>
</td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AS: Impt we don&#8217;t lose sight of multiple<br />
id&#8211;multiple racial id was similar to being gay, developd rsources fr being<br />
racially mixed #indigsg</span></p>
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</tr>
<tr style="height: 26pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:57:04 </span></p>
</td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AS: Many people have never seen a gay relationship.<br />
Would be gd for more people to know #indigsg</span></p>
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</tr>
<tr style="height: 13pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 20:57:42 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">JC: Karen has just published an autobiography about<br />
her life #indigsg</span></p>
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</tr>
<tr style="height: 13pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:00:00 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: Maybe we can start by asking broadcasters to<br />
stop censorship. #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:02:05 </span></p>
</td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Normal to have two mummies in certain parts.<br />
Can&#8217;t censor<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>whole world. I see<br />
an earthquake buildg. At what pt will Sg stop? #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 26pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:04:28 </span></p>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 285.5pt;" width="286" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">SJ: Mediacorp has limitations, limited budgets. Hard<br />
to say when it will stop, but there are many more channels now. #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 13pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:05:32 </span></p>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 285.5pt;" width="286" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">SJ: Just boycott any media outlets that seem<br />
homophobic. #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 26pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:06:26 </span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 285.5pt;" width="286" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">[Slide: Workplace: 96% perceive some amt of<br />
discrimination at work. Lack of recourse in event of discr. Only MNCs.]<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 26pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:07:30 </span></p>
</td>
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 285.5pt;" width="286" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Reveals to interviewer that she is gay. Your own<br />
perception becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Depends on yr own ability.<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 13pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:08:15 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Can bring it up to MOM #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 13pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:08:30 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: No dispute mechanism here #indigsg</span></p>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:09:02 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Over $1500, not covered by Employment Act<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:09:32 </span></p>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 285.5pt;" width="286" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">[Slide: 38% in monogamous rship, 10% dating, 44%<br />
single] #indigsg</span></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 13pt;">
<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:10:17 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: How many of you would want to get married?<br />
[About 50% raises hands.]</span></p>
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<td style="padding: 0in 5.4pt; width: 134pt;" width="134" valign="bottom">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:12:12 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">[Slide: Marriage privileges -- Right to share family<br />
name, property ownership. HDB subsidy. Medical rights, next of kin rights.]<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:14:39 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">[Slide: Employment benefits. Spousal or family violence.<br />
Divorce or death of spouse. Travel. Parenting and adoption. Income tax.]<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:15:41 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">[Slide: Worrying signs from survey. Almost 1 in 4<br />
had income &lt; $20 000] #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:16:08 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: What is to be done? #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:17:41 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Raqvind (RK): The more you normalise it, the less<br />
fearful they are. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:20:01 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">HY: Don&#8217;t be limited by yr imagination 2 wat exists presently.<br />
Many types feminism out there. Only 1 feminist org, can form more. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:20:31 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Form sexual minorities org? #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:21:57 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">HY: Find it within yourself to start new movements,<br />
causes. New feminist orgs don&#8217;t even hv to be formerly affliated w/AWARE<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:24:22 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Been with AWARE 4 many years. Never felt<br />
discriminated against. EGM brought out +ve things. Totally for forming new<br />
grps #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:25:58 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: &#8230;No real conflict between AWARE and<br />
lesbians. Was amazed by EGM, J and K. Act of doing somethg is itself<br />
empowering. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:26:52 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: &#8230;Many new women have come forward.<br />
Sometimes more strategic to form a separate grp. Keep EGM spirit alive.<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:29:10 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AA: Once every 10 years, government sets censorship<br />
guidelines. Censorship Review Committee has been set up. Media rep impt.<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:30:32 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Started 1st gay org in India. They never<br />
thought change wld happen. July 2nd, verdict validated hard work 4 past 15<br />
yrs. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:31:41 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Stem cell technology &#8212; tech will become<br />
mainstream. Once gay pple can reproduce, it becomes normative. Use economy,<br />
etc. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:33:04 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AS: One other type of censorship we don&#8217;t normally<br />
talk abt&#8211;shld we tell our colleagues, parents? Diff when someone u know&#8230;<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:33:47 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AS: &#8230;tells you. Not little perverts who are<br />
sexually broken, diff in a fundamental way. Esp in Sg. &#8220;Conservative<br />
Asian society&#8221;. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:34:07 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AS: &#8230;need to show that homosexuality is at least<br />
as much a part of our conservative Asian society #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:34:29 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT: Coming out had single largest impact on whether<br />
they wld agree to same sex marriage. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:37:24 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Visibility, period. Don&#8217;t hv to join grps for<br />
that. Be visible as individuals. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:39:11 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">SJ: In answering<span> </span>qn what&#8217;s next, need 2 look at qn on diff lvls. Grassroots<br />
lvl can&#8217;t be emphasised enough, comes bk 2 comng out. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:39:37 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">SJ: need to work on every front. All need to take more<br />
resp. Participate in something you believe in. As simple as that. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:41:44 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"><br />
</span>One thing gay pple shld always rem. Be very gd in what you do. Work v<br />
hard, be the boss if yr boss discriminates against u. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:42:48 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: &#8230;have to work on financial side. Coming<br />
out, hv to take one more step. Don&#8217;t forget the burden u place on parents&#8230;<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:43:15 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: &#8230;when coming out to them. Work with<br />
parents. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:44:39 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AS: Other forms of coming out. Not event but<br />
process. Sometimes took chances on cming out to ppl where they were<br />
distraught&#8230; #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:45:20 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AS: &#8230;slow consistent work.Extending the<br />
hospitality of our rship to these people as well. Act of resp to the people u<br />
come out to #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:45:32 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">AS: &#8230;take a chance on the hard cases. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:48:28 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Floor: Very important to show people that we are out<br />
there. When we forge ahead, we have to leave some history behind, next gen.<br />
#indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:54:45 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">New youth grp for gay teens! Between ages of 16 and<br />
21 &#8212; Young Out Here. #indigsg</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:55:29 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sayoni will be conducting another event on 29th Aug.<br />
United We Fall, Divided We Stand.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></p>
<p>Common grd between gay men and women? #indigsg</td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Sat Aug 22 21:55:51 </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">KT is thanking the panellists. Thank you for<br />
reading! #indigsg</span></p>
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