Show Notes

0:00 Doug and Dave attempt to calibrate Skype lag and introduce Sammy Lovelace Shill’s new producer

0:50 Dave and Doug bicker like a couple considering an open marriage, Doug opens the Spinal Tap doors which leads to an obscure reference contest.

2:12 Doug promises to bring his AAA game (minor league and beefy). Dave introduces Shill’s new sponsor The Flavor Wave and then proceed to gush all over Mr. T.

3:20 Doug and Dave beat the Twitter horse senseless. Doug laments the human race and gives up on Twitter when Ashton beats out CNN for biggest posse. Doug lamely tries to justify his elitist distaste for Twitter going mainstream.

4:58 Dave admits to following celebs, but draws the line at counting the days he was on Twitter before Oprah. Dave likens Twitter to be of equivalent value to watching re-runs. Doug hopes lunch time tweets are finally off the menu.

9:24 Doug hates re-tweets and nearly exposes his fears of the schoolyard bully and his sidekick. Dave disagrees in a characteristically wishy-washy way.

11:48 Dave says that he can dive in and out of the twitter stream, enjoy being snide while he’s there and jump out when his privates are sufficiently shrunken. Dave name outs Toronto’s top 10 Twitterers as a bunch of PR Flacks.

14:00 Doug reveals anti-social tendencies by wondering of the value of cocktail parties, Dave reveals the obvious and suggests that Twitter is no place to get laid. Dave suggests, Warcraft isn’t either, ouch, that smarts! Dave suggest followers are just another form of experience points.

16:57 Armed no more info than a screenshot, Dave and Doug try to bluff their way into an opinion on Google Wave. Doug dons the tin-foil hat and gets spooked by Google having everything. Dave goes post-apocalyptic.

22:20 You heard it hear first: Dave has no time for Bing and Doug isn’t smart enough to work Wolfram Alpha.

24:45 Doug and Dave have a Stoner’s moment. Corporate social media response time and Dominoes pizza debacle briefly mentioned.

28:20 Doug gets up a head of steam on how customer service is most important for crappy products. Dave promotes listening and drops the call, Sammy drops in the sad trombone.

31:00 A word from our sponsor: Mr. T. vs The Flavour Wave.

33:35 Dave comes alive briefly, Rogers is mentioned and conspiracy theories abound and sinisterly Dave drops off again.

And like a newb at the punk show, Shill is tossed around the mosh pit before falling down in the broken beer bottles and slowly kicked into bloody unconsciousness by Doc Martens.

Thanks to Sammy Lovelace for all her hard work on editing and production.
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Show Notes

0:00 Doug acts like a pompous ass while ordering a single malt, while Dave’s thought train derails. Looks like another Shill is off to the races.

0:58 Doug opens the show and Dave announces ShillstivalTO 2.0 in session.

2:30 Doug discloses his former career as a social media douchebag, apparently he has graduated to a colostomy bag or something. Dave claims that not updating your blog is a badge of honour.

3:10 It’s spring again, the natural meetup season of the geek. Twestival holds little appeal for Dave as he is a natural misanthrope. PodCamp, Mesh, Third Tuesday, SXSW, are all on the horizon, expect TwitterLynching.

6:40 Doug admits to having no idea where the cool kids treehouse will be relocated now that Twitter has gone mainstream. Dave narrowly avoids saying that there are no mountains left to climb, Doug calls Dave shallow-brained.

9:00 Dave and Doug agree that Facebook needs another look since they mercifully buried the bloody Zombie apps and turned it back into a slightly interactive contact list. Dave comes out in favour of walled-gardens.

11:25 Dave says it doesn’t matter what clients do anymore so long as they have a community manager.

12:29 Doug questions where the line is drawn between corporate brands and personal reputation.  Dave tries to drag the conversation back to @scotmonty, but Doug wisely avoids the bait. Further musing on corporate twitter accounts and podcast dress codes.

16:55 Why would anyone follow a corporate twitter that wasn’t backed by a person. Dave says that a little client shilling is okay, so long as it is not the only reason to be on Twitter.

18:45 Exciting guest appearance from the waitress and the Scotch list.

19:25 EDIT ALERT - several minutes of discussing Scotches with the bartender was mercifully cut from the podcast. Don’t worry we promise not to make editing a habit or anything.

19:37 iPhone interference makes a guest appearance. Good think no one listens to this podcast.

19:45 Dave brings discussion to client’s paying for strategy versus paying for execution. Doug leaps to the defence of his companies business model and warns clients of the risk of expecting ideas without paying for development of them. Dave brings up the ghost of “spec creative” and that you get what you pay for, so cough up cheapskates or you will get the agencies who have nothing better to do.

24:15 Conversation drifts to pitches and the sometimes dumb expectations of clients, like “cheat the other clients and pass the savings on to us.” Dave tries to justify the client perspective (or perhaps his own past behaviour).

27:45 Doug tries to steer the HMS Shill back on course by saying any jackass can have an idea, but will the idea work for a given cleint at a given time. Dave tries to pose a question, but Doug interjects with Norse mythology.

31:25 Dave spits in the eye of everyone who calls him a cheap bastard over the years, by grabbing the cheque, while Doug quietly regrets not opting for the expensive hooch.

34:40 Stay tuned for next year’s Shill for the most excting rose ceremony yet! And a little more iPhone interference to round out the show.

And like a squirrel crossing a bare spot on the electrical lines, Shill stops, jitters a bit and then falls to the street below waiting for a passing car to turn it into a stain.
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Show Notes

0:00 The Shill Podcast complaint line

1:08 Doug opens the show, tips a wee dram to the great Robbie Burns and  compares Shill to a pubescent prank involving fecal matter. Dave isn’t quite awake yet.

2:11 A comment from Sally Goetsch (rhymes with something) puzzles Doug and fails to make an impression on Dave. Moving on.

3:10 The Pope launches a YouTube Channel and Doug accuses Dave of being an osmotic Catholic, Dave blames his family.

5:00 Dave compares the Pope to President Obama at least on YouTube and the Shill Research Department has taken inauguration year off again.

6:30 Doug and Dave discuss the consistency of the Papacy by allowing comments (like prayers) to disappear into the ether. Doug asks about Blogma and Dave proves the audiences suspicions by admitting he knows nothing.

7:35 Dave breaks it down and wonders why Vatican content isn’t going viral, only to answer his own question: they turned the viral switch to off.

8:51 In a grand display of contradiction Doug and Dave start to actually figure out that the Vatican may have some legitimate reasons for their choices. Dave shameless crowbars in a client reference.

10:30 Doug and Dave agree that YouTube commenters have roughly the intellectual capacity of slime moulds.

12:00 Doug speaks as a Catholic (which he isn’t) and marvels at how nice it would be to preached at by his laptop rather than schlepping to the Church. Dave stops just short of calling Doug a “moran” by pointing out that mass has been on TV for years.

13:20 God has His own .com address.

13:50 Doug calls an early close to Shill. Dave threatens the audience with more frequent episodes of Shill.

14:45 Dave closes the show with an unintelligible comparison of podcasts to Catholic mass.

16:28 Rasta Doug erupts on the offbeat and Dave smacks him down by calling him a glory-hounding drummer at the end of the show.

And like a urethral swab, Shill is over quickly, with excruciating pain, and leaves you uncomfortable for a few days.
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Show Notes

0:00 - Hour 3 of the Annual Shill Phone-in Show gets its first caller

1:00 - Dave opens the show and makes some very thin excuses for the
frequency of Shill releases.

1:37 - Dave introduces Shill’s new Sponsor Zombo.com and blames Doug’s
inept finger for creating Shill - The Lost Tapes

3:05 - <shill>Zombo.com magically gets worked into the conversation</
shill> We prove to Joe Jaffe that the 30-second spot is not dead!

3:39 -Dave goes off on a rant about the perpetual 101 discussions at conferences, meetups and blog posts.  Social media “experts” asking questions they know the answers to and writing blog posts that have been written over and over again is lame and embarrassing. He proceeds to pucker up and kiss the mighty Steve Rubel’s New York Jets loving rear.

7:00 - Doug wonders why social media experts sit through introduction to podcasting sessions at conferences.  Flashes the SM gang sign.  He could be whiter, but then he’d pee snowflakes.

8:10 - Doug suggests there are two types of social media practitioner:  Doers who are getting shit done for clients and Time Lords.

9:20 - Dave says that social media evangelists are crawling up their own asses due to all the hand-wringing around Forrester’s report showing how low the trust in corporate blogs is.  The boys agree that if you think blogging is inherently trustworthy, you are an idiot.  Blogs aren’t trustworthy. People are trustworthy.

11:25 - Doug recounts a conversation he had with a former ink-stained wretch.  “These bloggers can’t be trusted,” said the reporter in question.  Of course they can’t…neither can reporters.

12:45 - Doug is pretty sure Viagra spelled wrong will help him with his ED problems.

13:00 - Dave and Doug put their personal brands on the line and discuss the ridiculousness of the personal brand concept.  The whole “good try”, “everyone’s a winner” Special Olympics of blogging is annoying and holding evolution back.

14:32 - Doug wants to inaugurate the “thanks for coming out social media participation award.”  It’s given to people who make pathetic tries.

15:45 - There’s discussion about recent polls and the kool-aid soaked belief that marketing cuts, means more money for social media.  Uh, no it doesn’t.  Cuts come across the board.  Don’t buy that new Hyundai yet.  Alec Baldwin will be sent on a mission of mercy from downtown, from Mitch and Murray, to adjust your attitudes.

21:10 - Dave recounts a boring story about a Share This button.  Seriously, the show you’ve waited months for has devolved into this.

24:24 - There is some concern that the show is not quite profane enough.  Dave does his best to get a NC-17 rating applied by iTunes.

24:30 - Doug puts in a shameless plug for Shill sponsor, Zombo.com.  That’s Zombo.com.  Zombo.  Dot.  Com.

24:58 - Doug’s back-of-matchbook broadcasting school technique comes through as he mangles the closing again…

26:06 - This is the part where we play the post-roll Zombo.com sponsor ad.

27:54 - And like hemorrhoid surgery on podcasting’s pasty white butt, Shill is lanced and comes to a close with excruciating pain, yet anticipation of sweet relief until the next flare up.

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Show Notes:

0:30 - Dave admits to flaking out on Shill (again) and so begins Shill like a rafter of turkeys released from a helicopter.

1:22 - Discussion of Microsoft’s recent “ads” elicit a characteristic F-bomb response from Doug. Dave verbally scratches his head in confusion and starts trying to conjure up bad celebrity mash-ups with no help from Doug. The Shill boys regret even drawing attention to it.

4:30 Dave rails at Apple for not allowing podcast updates via WiFi on the iPhone. Doug passes the Mac Fan Boy hat to Dave only to have him set it on fire, leaving both hatless and showing some embarassing bald spots.

7:55 Dave hands over the rights to Shill to Apple for free (which is still a sucker’s deal). Doug uses one of his three wishes for his car to synch up with his WiFI, but the genie in the bottle gives flips him the bird.

9:09 Doug waves from the anti-DRM bandwagon and discusses how the totalitarian DRM on the video game Spore resulted in a user comment backlash on Amazon. Meanwhile Dave sits on his life-preserver, preferring to watch Doug drown in his own drivel. Doug attempts to discuss the financial consequences of misguided mobs, but Dave thinks gaming the system is part of the system.

16:30 Dave crowns the new heavyweight YouTube Champion, Avril Lavinge, but has issues with the auto-loading website landing all the punches for her. Dave wonders if the rules need to change,

19:44 Doug booze-addled brain splutters out, while Dave reveals his inability to take an editing cue. Apology to Shill audience: Shill Bloopers Vol. 1 will not be issued - we used up all the outtakes in the content. Doug struggles to get the chain back on his mental tricycle.

21:20 Dave tiptoes through the big ad agency minefield and struggles to find meaning in Cossette’s Bloom. Doug makes a truly pointless scatological reference and pleads with agencies to have an opinion on the future, or at least a point. Doug and Dave long for some specifics and wave their favourite protest sign: “Community not Campaigns”.

29:30 Dave wonders aloud how ad people get money from clients for Social Media. Doug believes agencies need to find a way to make money or production instead of media. Dave believes that agencies have managed to wedgie themselves with their own business model and thinks digital people should be driving the bus.

34:35 As if Shill weren’t long enough, Dave tries to squeeze in a discussion on Social Vibe. Doug laments that advertising is more than slapping a logo on a charity sponsorship.

37:20 Dave drops his mic, Doug loses his train of thought again, while the audience wonders why he continues to listen. Adding insolence to injury Dave gets lost in Facebook’s facelift, while Doug calls 700,000 Facebook users “ingrates”.

39:55 Dave gives the agencies a thanks-for-coming-out participation award, while waxing poetic about the good old sexist days of MAdvertising. And like a salaryman getting the pink slip, Shill is not allowed to clear out its desk before being escorted from the building.

BONUS HIDDEN TRACK (after theme music): Dave fails to be funny, Doug reverts to an old standby joke. Girlish giggles ensue.
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Show Notes:

00:00 A key insight into how the show is made is revealed or Doug takes a cheap shot at Dave? You be the judge.

1:14 Results of Shill’s first and last ever focus group with our listener. Turns out you hate the show and the feeling is mutual and thus Shill lurches out of the gates, like a sprinter with a gammy leg.

3:25 Dave brings out the obligatory Glengarry Glen Ross reference and then tells Doug he has the worst haircut in his whole office - Doug works from home and his dog feels insulted. Dave reveals that the Shill research team have yet to show up for work.

5:16 The frequency of Shill episodes is discussed and soundly blamed upon Jones and his alcoholic neighbors. Dave pointlessly name drops Steve Rubel, admits to swilling domestic suds, and sleeping around. Doug barfs.

8:01  Dave finally gets to the point of the episode: NBC Olympic-sized media research project. NBC unleashes the research hounds on how people consume the Olympics in a desperate (or perhaps brilliant) effort to figure out how audiences gorge on the content. Will it prove NBC’s inevitable irrelevance?

10:45 Doug believes that the Olympics is an interesting case, but may be too unique to be applicable to back episodes of Everybody Love Raymond.

12:30 Dave gets cynical about whether NBC will actually reveal their soiled underpants. Doug says one way or another the stench will reach everyone’s nostrils.

14:30 Doug reminds the listener (needlessly) that even though most TV sucks, there is still a lot of money growing in the analogue trees and quotes someone much smarter saying “don’t trade analogue dollars for  digital pennies yet”- UCG still needs to push out some greenbacks. Dave figures there have been no winners yet in the Social Media lottery.

17:01 Doug suggests that the Olympic media coverage should be amateurs-only event with the likes of Robert Scoble and his cell phone camera broadcasting to the world. Let’s see how long before we all start screaming for big budget mass media pros.

19:00 Dave claims his favourite Olympic sport is the 24 Hour Cash Grab Relay and proceeds to crap all over the Olympic ideals. Research again lets down the hosts, by being unable to answer basic questions. Doug admits to being current affairs ignorant, culturally obtuse, and perhaps somewhat less than a man. An on-air spat ensues regarding topics sprung at the last minute on unsuspecting co-hosts.

22:40 Dave and Doug profess their loathing for opening ceremonies and other forms of half-time shows. Dave refuses to watch any half-time shows unless they show some nudity and proposes synchronized swimming as a pre-requisite for watching the rest of the Olympics.

24:31 Doug beats the “amateurs should cover the games” drum again and Dave pops his bubble resoundingly by reminding him of the amateur podcasts they listen to - Doug tucks his tail between his legs.

25:30 Another spat breaks out over tonight’s topic, where Doug cleverly lures Dave into making a sexist comment. Please send complaints to shillpodcast@gmail.com.

26:35 Dave apologizes to Shel Israel for running out of time and being unable to play his comment. And like a mammoth going for a dip in the tar pit, Shill struggles helplessly before marking its demise with a few oily bubbles on the surface.

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Show Notes:

00:31 A lot has happened since the week between shows and Doug and Dave launch right into the topic: themselves. Doug’s been in South Africa to see if this anti-apartheid movement is catching on. Apparently, it’s a hit. And all because Dave and Doug bought a record in the 80s.

1:52 Dave outs Doug’s move to Social Media Group to become a competitor and another full-time new media douchebag on the scene. Dave’s jealousy bubbles to the surface and he counterpunches by name-dropping Collin Douma ex of Social Media Group. Doug parries with the fact that he has inherited Douma’s old Blackberry.

2:45 Dave notes the disturbing clubiness of the echo chamber and feels there is a musical in it somewhere. Doug believes bong water has been ingested.

3:13 Other names are dropped for a variety of hard-to-understand reasons: Scott Monty’s move to Ford to become Doug’s client; Bryan Person to Texas to run for Governor and then the Republican nomination; Doug Haslam to Shift; Dave going to hell; Doug claims to be making some other moves that will see Shill become the #1 podcast in the scat category on iTunes.

4:04 Doug riffs on the state of music, 70s swinging culture and his love of mustaches and tight pants. Freddie Mercury would have been proud.

6:30 The discussion meanders to the popularity of ringtones. Doug butts in to let everyone out there know that you are dead to him if you have a real music ringtone. Dave sticks it to straight-edge white guys with gangsta rap ringtones and uber-geeks with the Darth Vader music.

8:32 Dave defers to Doug’s knowledge of how video games incorporate music due to the fact that Dave believe he is an adult. Doug puts up zero resistance to this quip for obvious reasons.

10:20 Doug thinks of music as an impulse buy like penny candy. Doug is partial to the pixie sticks (see Freddie Mercury reference.) Dave apparently has an oral fixation.

10:50 Dave pretends to be an audiophile and economist (two words he clearly had to look up for these show notes) and stumbles through the historical thread of the history of recorded and packaged music, filthy rich artists and invites Doug to reminisce about how great things used to be when they browsed through record stores, looking at Klaatu album covers.

13:26 Having not fully bludgeoned the music topic to death, Doug brings up PVRs and in a strange Shill moment, starts talking up one of Dave’s clients: Overlay.TV. Dave seizes the opportunity to shamelessly promote them as well. (Hey Rob and Ben! Overlay.TV rocks.)

16:30 Still going with music. Seriously. Dave eventually gets round to insulting people in the TV advertising business. And how Doug and Dave laugh! You can hear their sides splitting.

17:06 Gleefully, the topic comes to a conclusion as Doug considers hiring bards and troubadours in the future. This leads to discussions about strange English things to do with a certain lead singer of The Police.

20:00 Nothing gets a too-long episode back on track than when Doug and Dave turn on each other.

21:10 Discussions about James Spader, Bill Shatner, Christian Slater and Colin McKay clearly affect Dave in a homo-erotic way and he makes a pass at Doug.

23:51 Dave tries to introduce the topic of virtual worlds and not the launch of the iPhone 3G, but like Doug’s first girlfriend, he will have none of it. Dave insults the first guy in line in Toronto, Apple, Rogers, and City-TV’s breakfast television program.

26:15 Doug’s Apple fan-boy side comes out and he proclaims his love for the iPhone and claims Blackberrys are for stockbrokers and PR people. Dave smugly believes that he menas people with the power and authority to make shit happen. iPhones are for people who think they are important…like Doug.

30:18 After a trip down the convergence rabbit hole, Doug notes that multiple gadgets require Chewbacca’s bandolier…yup, the kind all the stockbrokers get at Louis Vuitton. Dave immediately lays down a triple world score and bingo on the word “geekass”.

30:51 Like that tingly sensation you get before a cold sore, the virtual worlds topic finally surfaces. Any salient points are lost in discussions about Demi Moore, Michael Douglas, World of Warcraft and crack.

36:40 Dave admits to having tuned Doug out. Bur for show notes purposes, it was something like: blah blah blah…dungeons and dragons…blah blah blah.

37:47 Doug is an idiot for losing the audio comment received from cowboy-hatted legend David Armano. And like a fudgesicle within striking distance of a fat kid, Shill is inhaled, leaving only a few brownish remnants and a wicked brain freeze.

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0:28 In a major Shill milestone Doug and Dave get drunk together in meatspace and nearly apologize for another delayed Shill episode.

1:30 Dave introduces the topic of National Digital Media Day, Doug re-christens it International Year of Mitch Joel’s shoes. Doug feels that the idea is past due, as in 13 years out-of-date.

4:15 Doug connects Digital Media Day to communications, while Dave yanks in the reigns, saying it is merely another tool for geeks to get revenge over being ostracized in high-school.

5:00 Doug overshares that twitter causes genital “shrinkage” and <metaphor alert>social media is not a democracy, but is a wolf pack</metaphor alert> Dave paints a mental image of Doug that a real editor would have cut out.

7:55 Doug interjects and points out the Shill platitude of “the link is in the show notes” is even less true than “the cheque is in the mail” (Google it for crying out loud people!). Dave and Doug make an impassioned plea for people to read the show notes instead of listening, while Dave attempts to shoo the listener away like a wasp buzzing around his milkshake.

9:50 Alcoholic reinforcements arrive while Twitter Meglomania is discussed. Dave and Doug digress into a board games strategy discussion. Doug accuses the a-list twitterers of digital dick measuring.

14:30 Dave asks who do you want to be: The Velvet Underground or Duran Duran? Doug patiently attempts to hide his uncoolness and attempts to pull meaning out of the reference by making it relevant to a band he likes. Dave finally makes the connection and claims that size doesn’t matter it is the motion of the ocean or something else that makes him feel comfortable with his inadequacy.

19:00 Doug quotes his bro, Graham and sticks another needle into the a-listers’ eye and their Manson Family craptastics.

20:35 Dave apologies to Jason Calacanis for not playing his submitted comment. And like a pack-rat shut-in trapped under a stack of old newspapers, Shill dies forgotten until the stench alerts the neighbours.
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0:35 Dave reads a comment from Tamera Kremer who wonders what brand of irritant Dave uses to stay cranky for Shill.

1:20 Doug vomits up the topic of treating social media as a business strategy versus a communications tactic, which leaves a funny taste in his mouth. Dave coins the phrase Cluetailtipinomics to describe the study of people like Ed Lee who gaze too deeply into the kool-aid sippy cup.

4:15 Doug’s Dog makes a cameo taking Doug away and thus briefly reducing Shill to a half-fat-vanilla-jackass-latte. Dave goes it alone questioning a significant link between advertising/PR and anything that gets CFOs all wet.

5:50 Doug wonders why Dell Ideastorm, MyStarbucksIdea and other digital comment cards are such a big deal. [Insert obligatory Seth Godin reference here]. Dave also mentions Paul Isakson’s awesome slideshare presentation.

7:30 Dave plugs a “Tell, don’t Ask” agenda quoting Sony. Doug loses 30 Apple Fanboy points by picking at the Newton and Mac Cube scabs.

10:15 Is Apple too good for social media? (without sarcasm) opines Dave and their sales haven’t suffered a bit.

12:30 Doug conjures a few corporate corpses to warn of the ills of having business strategy too tied to a chosen medium. Dave points out that companies like GM may be shoveling cash from mass to online, but it ain’t all going to blogs.

15:30 Doug finds a long-winded way of saying that one man’s reputational disaster is another’s perfect storm in a teapot.

17:25 Dave takes a closing pot shot at Ed Lee and Doug verbally strangles himself, thus squeezing Shill’s neck to a spasmodically convulsing death

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0:31 Dave vainly tries to present a softer, gentler side of himself, by introducing the wishy-washy topic of everything new is old again. Doug smells blood in the water and writes a cheque his ass can’t cash.

1:30 The wide awake listener will notice that Dave doesn’t really believe that things have changed much. Doug snorts his contempt while spouting new media bafflegab like a tongue-tied politician on a filibuster. And so Shill hits cruising speed.

2:00 Doug shouts the obvious from the rooftops, claiming that infinite media tends towards zero value while Dave quietly laughs up his sleeves.

3:18 Dave tries hopelessly to make sense of the senseless. Doug verbally bludgeons Dave like an obtuse child while expecting retribution from the listener for his own obtuse claims.

4:49 Dave makes a withdrawal from the Clue Bank reminding us that there has always been more content than any human being could intake. Doug accuses the whole Internet of piracy by saying that to consume digital content is to copy. He also admits to boarding the SNL bandwagon en route.

7:30 Dave plays the Doug Whisperer and tries to tease some sense out of Doug’s ranting and wonders whether searching for needles in a haystack is a good use of time.

8:10 TRITENESS WARNING: Doug brings up Sturgeon’s Saw.. er Law.

9:05 Dave attempts to claim a point for Team Status Quo talking about the value of editors and the hassle of DIY media. Doug pats Dave on the head and says that the glut of content allows for blessings like LOLCats to thrive, which would have been impossible in traditional content.

12:31 Dave conjures the ghost of repeater bloggers and value creation wondering aloud how social media only took two years to be inane when it took traditional media a few decades.

13:35 Smug bastard Doug takes a cheap shot at Dave calling him linear in a networked world and then doubles the output at the abstruse factory. He further embarrasses himself using an archaic meaning of the word “Ho!” like a grade school Shakespeare play.

15:16 Dave comes to Doug’s rescue and makes his point for him that the network does indeed bring value to finding content of interest and admits to stalking his favourite echo chamberites via twitter.

17:10 Dave again wonders about the value of repeater blogs and attempts to close Shill where it started. This gets Doug’s goat and in a fit of irritation says that saying everything is the same is sloppy thinking, he then gives his own hypocrisy a hug.

21:12 Doug questions the value of the last 21 minutes and then like a teenager driving a manual transmission, Shill splutters and lurches to an end.

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