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Re: Knebworth DVD missing title track.

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:57:36 PST

Brian's playing something very different at the end of Good Timin', going into In My Room.

Re: Tiffany Granath

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:56:53 PST

He/she/shim will notice when he/she/shim returns.

Re: Knebworth DVD missing title track.

plankjustin@gmail.com — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:54:57 PST

Where does he play different on those songs? what's he playing?

Re: New Gershwin article

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:54:08 PST

Noncommunicative, but some nuggets.

http://www.mydesert.com/article/20091203/LIFESTYLES01/91203020/Brian+Wilson+interview+reveals+no+plans+past+Gershwin

QUESTION: Have you gotten back into working on the Gershwin project?

WILSON: Yeah.

How was it leaving the project to go on the road? Do you take a tape recorder or note pads so you can work on it?

Yeah. I take a tape recorder with me.

So, how does that work for you? Do you come up with ideas while you�re working?

Well, whenever I get inspired.

Do you have a routine where you sit down to make the inspiration come?

No, it�s just whenever it happens, it happens.

Did it happen?

Yeah. I got some stuff on tape.

Are you pleased with the way that project is going?

Yes.

A lot of people are kind of surprised that you were influenced by Gershwin. Can you recall your first inspiration from the Gershwins?

I first heard Gershwin when I was two years old. Then, later on, I learned how to play that pretty part in �Rhapsody In Blue.�

How old were you when you learned that -- the improvisational part of �Rhapsody,� right?

Yeah. I was 28.

28? So you were already acclaimed as a genius and were looking for something new to do?

Right.

Where did that lead you? Did it make you want to learn more about Gershwin?

No, no. I just learned that part. I really didn�t learn anything else from him.

I know you got this project when you signed with Disney, but, how did you get (to finish) his compositions -- the scraps of them, so to speak?

Well, the Disney people called us and asked if I would like to work on some unfinished tapes, and that�s what we did.

I know the Gershwin estate is very particular about even who gets to give a Gershwin concert. Did you have to go through any type of conversations with the family to assure them...

No. They sent us the tapes.
Can you tell me what your inspiration for those tapes are?

Ah, what my what?

What your inspiration is. Where you�re going to take them.

I have no idea. I�m just working on it now. I haven�t got much done.

Gershwin is so New York and you�re so Southern California, will there be a meeting of geography here?

No. Actually the stuff I�m going to do is completely different from his stuff.

Will it be like what you did with �Lucky Ol� Sun� -- bringing the Brian Wilson-Beach Boys harmonies to it?

No. We�re just doing piano stuff.

No vocals at all?

No.

So you�re not using any Ira Gershwin material?

No. We�re doing 10 Ira and George Gershwin songs, but we�re doing two unfinished piano things.

I was talking with Barry Manilow, who got some of Johnny Mercer�s unfinished material and turned that into what I think is his best album ever. He told me he thought you were perfect for this project. He calls you a genius.

Great.

You�re performing against him. He�s at (the McCallum Theatre) the night you�re in Rancho Mirage... Ah, you�ve been coming out to Indian Wells for a while now, right?

Right.

How do you feel about playing in this area now that you�re a part-time resident?

You mean, Palm Springs?

Yeah.

I like that place a lot. Yeah.

I know your wife likes to play golf. What have you found enjoyable about your home out here?

In Palm Springs?

Yeah.

Not much. I just like the weather.

So, going back to the Gershwin thing for a moment. I know Phil Ramone is also coming out with a Gershwin project in 2010. Do you feel any pressure to compete with him?

No, no. They will probably be two different kinds of things.

They�ll be coming out around the same time. Do you concern yourself with the practicalities of how a piece does commercially?

Well, yeah. I don�t know if this is going to sell, but they have a lot of money, so they can promote it.

Right. Are you looking at this as something that will top �SMiLE� or �Lucky Ol� Sun�?

No. It will be a completely different kind of album. It won�t top �SMiLE.� It�s not a concept album. It�s just an album of �Wilson Sings Gershwin.�

(edited out)

Are you working with any collaborators on this Gershwin project?

Well, yeah. I�m working with my friend Paul Mertens. He�s one of my band members. He�s a horn player.

So you�ll have a horn arrangement on this?

He�s going to make the horn and string arrangements for the Gershwin songs that Ira wrote and George wrote.

Are you working on any more popular music in addition to Gershwin now?

No, not really.

Do you know where you�re going to go after that project?

I don�t know.

You have another album to satisfy your contract with Disney, but you don�t know what that�s going to be yet?

No.

OK. Do you ever have ideas that pop into your head that don�t fit the Gershwin project? And, if so, what do you do with them?

Well, you mean if they�re not related to Gershwin?

Yeah.

I just discard them.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow. You write them down but you throw them away?

Actually, my whole project now is Gershwin. Anything not Gershwin, I don�t use.

I would think you�d be afraid of losing some idea that might be valuable in five years to you.

I don�t know.

You�re just so confident that you�re going to come up with new ideas, huh?

Right. right.

How did you get so confident?

I don�t know. I just have a lot of will power and creativity in me.

OK. Well, is there anything else you want to tell me?

No. It�s a great interview. Thank you very much.

Re: Monkees Appreciation thread

plankjustin@gmail.com — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:52:42 PST

Yeah, I got those, good stuff...I've came to love their version of Cuddly Toy, though I love Nilsson's, I just love me some Monkees vocals...

Circle Sky is really good, it's like a tour de force type of song

Re: Tiffany Granath

bellagio@btinternet.com — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:50:23 PST

Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on Today at 05:37:09 PM

It hurts when you smack 'em in the face with the banhammer.

Even when they're practically begging for it ?

Re: 1974 - On The Road With The Beach Boys

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:45:46 PST

Awesome footage. Can't wait for the DVD.

Re: Tiffany Granath

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:37:09 PST

It hurts when you smack 'em in the face with the banhammer.

Re: Them Crooked Vultures

spartanjedi@sbcglobal.net — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:15:31 PST

This is going on the Christmas list!

Re: VDP song on \

spartanjedi@sbcglobal.net — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:14:41 PST

Bushmen, make it sound like you're in the f**king bush!

Re: Monkees Appreciation thread

spartanjedi@sbcglobal.net — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:13:02 PST

The Monkees don't get the recognition they deserve. The Headquarters thru Head era is their best, although Instant Replay has some gems on it. I just listened to Porpoise Song today, and still love it as much as I did when I first heard it. A few year ago Rhino put out a Headquarters sessions box set, and it's top notch.

Re: Knebworth DVD missing title track.

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:03:23 PST

Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on Today at 04:55:16 PM

vetoed Good Timin' and In My Room due to Brian playing different songs on the piano during these performances

The genius of the group, folks. The man can do no wrong. Right? Honestly, I am as much a Brianista as can be in a certain sense, but at the same time, this is the guy in whose hands the band should have been left. All would have been well, yes? The "key of BW" is funny on a certain level, but foda, it's sad.

Re: Tiffany Granath

bellagio@btinternet.com — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:59:54 PST

Bingo !

Re: Knebworth DVD missing title track.

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:55:16 PST

The sweetening for Knebworth was done in early 1981 when it was considered for release as a video album. If I remember correctly, Bruce, as producer of the original recordings, produced the sweetening sessions as well. The entire concert was sweetened. The circulating copies of the unedited concert, however, come from two different sources - an unmixed soundboard that someone leaked a few years back, or the Capital Radio 1980 UK radio broadcast. Both of these are unsweetened. The Knebworth CD/DVD uses the 1981 sweetened recordings. Bruce made the final cuts - he did not want I Write The Songs on there as he felt it didn't fit, vetoed Good Timin' and In My Room due to Brian playing different songs on the piano during these performances, and Catch A Wave, Wouldn't It Be Nice, Santa Ana Winds, and Some Of Your Love were also cut due to technical problems and CD length.

Re: Monkees Appreciation thread

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:48:47 PST

They're great. And even if all they ever did was sing on their albums (which, much like the Beach Boys reputation, is not true), they'd still be no worse off than plenty of other well regarded pop stars.

Monkees Appreciation thread

plankjustin@gmail.com — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:45:19 PST

No matter what you think of the early politics of 'playing their own instruments' or writing their own songs, you have to admit that first Monkees about is fantastic! It's prolly one of the better first albums by my favorite artists. I recently downloaded their discography, I originally owned Head (album and movie), but I'm loving their stuff, Birds Bees Monkees is really good...and Headquarters, to me is like their Rubber Soul, it's fantastic. Shame a lot of their later albums are by half of them.

Re: 1974 - On The Road With The Beach Boys

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:25:10 PST

Amazing!!!

Re: Tiffany Granath

spartanjedi@sbcglobal.net — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:24:14 PST

Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on Today at 03:03:39 AM

FFS !

Er....what exactly does that stand for? 'For F**** sake'?

Re: Knebworth DVD missing title track.

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:08:52 PST

I don't think Brian's vocal does much harm or good here. There are worse bits in the released album/video, and better. It's just ... more. Unfortunately no outtake is going to have a 1965 Brian or early '70s Dennis. 1980 is 1980, for better and worse.

Re: \

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:06:48 PST

2SMiLE-Holland: Ok! Thanks for information.

I think this UK version (CRB 32438) is reissue but I don`t know which it`s year because vinyl is very thin and cover with sticker "Collector`s Choice".

Re: Knebworth DVD missing title track.

plankjustin@gmail.com — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:03:44 PST

since we're on the subject of this concert, i have a question, and maybe only 'official' people know, but when doing the studio cleanup, did they also clean up the others left off the album (i.e. I write the Songs, Santa Ana Winds, In My Room, and Some of Your Love)

BTW, gave In My Room a listen, it's really not bad, just kinda awkward because it sounds like Bruce on lead, am I correct? It's odd to my hears to hear him on early material that's less celebrated

Re: \

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:58:55 PST

Quote from: MBE on December 03, 2009, 07:23:06 PM

Nobody believes me but I swear up and down the 1990 version was on vinyl. I wish I had picked it up the one time I saw it.. Probably a UK, German, or Dutch pressing.

Lemon, MBE means the 1990 reissue on Epic.

When the first 70-albums were re-released on CD, at least 3 of them were also released - albeit limited - on vinyl again. Sunflower, Surf's Up and Holland are definitely out there (as I have them). As far as I know these are Dutch pressings, but when they (sometimes) pop up on Ebay the seller is either German or British, so it might very well be that they were made specifically for the German and British market. I can't remember ever having seen advertisements in The Netherlands of these vinyl re-issues.

MBE swears he has seen at least one copy of POB on Epic vinyl as well, but thus far we've never seen a copy of it anywhere again. And it could very well be that the other 70ies albums were issued on Epic vinyl as well, but - again - we're still waiting for someone to show them to us.

Here's an example: Sunflower (with apologies for the average quality, I should make new scans...)

Re: Newly surfaced 1978 Australian show?

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:53:25 PST

Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on Today at 01:14:53 PM

Someone (Steve Gaines ?) described his singing as "Elmer Fudd on valium": hilarious... and sadly, entirely accurate.

C'mon bro...credit where credit is due...that was my line...pg. 176 Real Beach Boy book.
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Oops... my considerable bad. I am abject.
[/quote]Hey I'm just glad the line stuck in your head, considering all the stuff that's in there, that's a compliment.

Re: fantastic mr fox

Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:15:48 PST

Quote from: Runaways on Today at 09:39:37 AM

...also the boat that rocked/pirate radio has wouldn't it be nice and little saint nick

Yes, Richard Curtis almost ruined "God Only Knows" by sticking a version with a ridiculously-extended tag onto LOVE, ACTUALLY and now tarnishes "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by using it in his latest film. I was really looking forward to PIRATE RADIO (THE BOAT THAT ROCKED in the U.K.), given that the subject matter had such potential (illegal broadcasting of rock/pop music off the English coast in 1966), but was dismayed to find that Curtis jettisoned any historical interest in favor of doing "PORKY'S on a boat". As far as accuracy was concerned, I knew the film was in trouble when "Jumpin' Jack Flash" was cued up ten minutes in even though we were told specifically that the film takes place in '66.

Re: Newly surfaced 1978 Australian show?

bellagio@btinternet.com — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:14:53 PST

Quote from: Jon Stebbins on Today at 11:58:40 AM

Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on Today at 10:26:44 AM

Quote from: MBE on Today at 06:40:01 AM

Quote from: Jon Stebbins on December 04, 2009, 01:33:40 PM

Quote from: Jay on December 04, 2009, 01:11:04 AM

I've heard that Carl fell into the drums during Darlin'. Listening to the recording, there IS a chunck of vocals missing. But why would Carl be all the way back by the drums during a song he was singing lead on? I don't know why I'm so curios about that.

There was probably some stumbling involved. It wasn't like he dropped straight down from where he was standing. One of the two Aus. '78 shows I have on video features a very unsteady Carl, his ability to balance on his feet is real shaky...and he does actually stumble more than once. I don't have the show in which he actually fell to the floor, however, from the footage I do have i can easily imagine him stumbling backwards, trying to get his balance and ending up near the drum riser as he fell. In these BB's concerts Dennis seems much healthier and physically together than his brothers, which probably only means he had a higher tolerance for the substances they were sharing.

Dennis isn't in near the shape he was for sat the Summer of 1976 special but you are right he is the picutre of health next to his brothers. Such an odd film. Anyhow listening to Darlin is wild. Honestly its the worst thing I ever heard Carl do by far. I think he does fall during it listening close.

Someone (Steve Gaines ?) described his singing as "Elmer Fudd on valium": hilarious... and sadly, entirely accurate.

C'mon bro...credit where credit is due...that was my line...pg. 176 Real Beach Boy book.

Oops... my considerable bad. I am abject.