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Re: Brian to perform 'new' old songs this year

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:35:28 PDT

Quote from: matt-zeus on Today at 05:01:04 AM

This might sound a little extreme, but surely on this evidence, Brian is in not much of a better situation than he was during the 'Brians Back' period or dare I say it - later periods? I'm not talking about health or happiness wise but 'forced to do a particular musical type of thing' wise.

I wonder whether Brian's recovery is much better than we assume. He seems to have accepted the notion of touring, albeit with the stage fright and pre-gig nerves it involves. Touring's an aspect of the day job, a wage earner - those of us unfortunate enough to have/have had such things will all be familiar with clock watching, and the unpopular aspects that each job involves.

Touring is part of the way Brian makes a living; there're bound to be bits he's not fond of. No matter how great our own jobs are, there'll be bits of each we all hate. Brian'll be no different.

I used to love being Hugh Heffner's body double at parties, but I'd hate it, and check my watch, when brunettes showed up.

Re: Brian on Michael Jacksons Death

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:34:01 PDT

Quote from: claymcc on July 09, 2009, 05:04:09 PM

He is not unhappy with what he's doing - or rather what he does not do. Perhaps it was a blessing for him, in any case, it was a great achievement: that he has responsibility.

No, it's "...: that he did hand of responsibility" (to his band)

Re: What if Al hadn't left?

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:23:26 PDT

Quote from: Dada on July 08, 2009, 10:02:05 PM

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By Surf's Up, Brian was largely absent from the recording sessions, until one day he surprisingly turned up enthusiastic to work on "Take A Load Off Your Feet", singing in his classic high-pitched voice and contributing all kinds of zany sound effects. Brian also played piano on the Mike Love/Al Jardine composition "Don't Go Near the Water", playing with a lot of personality - he wasn't just going through the motions here.

He probably could relate to that material quite a bit. Come to think of it, "Take A Load Off Your Feet" almost sounds like a tribute to "Vega-Tables" or some of the more lightweight Smile material in general (which possibly didn't bother him as much as the heavier songs, such as "Surf's Up", but that of course is just pure speculation on my part), or think about some of Brian's then unreleased songs from that particular period, like "H.E.L.P. Is On Its Way", which does sound quite similar to "Take A Load Off Your Feet" as well.

Re: Brian's Fall US Tour

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:15:21 PDT

Quote from: DonnaK on July 09, 2009, 07:03:43 PM

I must admit, I broke (literally) down and bought 2 tickets for the Milwaukee Wisc. show for Oct. It will have to be an overnighter for us, but he's not coming to Chicago this time. It cost me $192.00 including a 5.00 fee for parking. Mind you, these are $75 seats in the 15th row and aisle seats. For that much money, I would expect a wristband for a signature, but in my thought process, you never know if this will be his last tour.................................or mine!!!!! My friend Pam loves his oldies so she decided to come along, which makes it more enjoyable all around. I'm hoping he does Imagination, but I'd rather hear the complete Pet Sounds again.

I think I am going to go to this one. I'm less than two hours away, so the drive won't be bad. I don't know if I'll buy the $75 seats, especially for a GH show. I paid $100 each for third row center seats for the Smile show in Madison in 2004, and it was one of the greatest shows I've ever seen. Like you said, though, Donna, this may be the last time he comes around these parts. Maybe I'll buy the $50 seats, and use the saved dough for a nice dinner before the show.

Re: 1999--2009

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:34:05 PDT

I agree Luther, to me it's their "Energy" which comes across much stronger than the actual music.
Their main selling point is their Enthusiasm as they play the songs. Good band......but not a Great band.

Bri

Re: Was 'Jack Rieley really Superman?'

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:43:05 PDT

Maybe if you linked to the 'blancmange video' on youtube(?)...

Re: Brian to perform 'new' old songs this year

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:01:04 PDT

Re: Brian's Fall US Tour

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:12:31 PDT

Quote from: Wild_Honey-In_Stereo on July 09, 2009, 04:05:09 PM

I like how he sold out the paradiso though, that's over a thousand in there I've been told

1500 Actually. That's 300 more than the Carre Theater in Amsterdam and he didn't sell out there two years ago. Especially because Brian has done quite some shows in Amsterdam the last few years and because tickets weren't exactly cheap (50 euros), I really didn't expect him to sell out the Paradiso now.

Re: The Beach Boys Hate You

daniel.scarpa@gmail.com — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:16:22 PDT

Punk is the one popular genre of music the Beach Boys didn't touch. It would've been great.

Re: What if Al hadn't left?

hal_erickson@yahoo.com — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:14:10 PDT

Quote from: Luther on July 08, 2009, 10:27:50 PM

That might be the first instance of "butt-buddy" I've heard or read since 6th grade. And it cracked me up. Well done.

Junior high-school humor=belly laughs. Simple, gut-busting equation! (I've never even
heard that expression, "but" it made me laugh too.

Re: The Beach Boys Hate You

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:42:02 PDT

Though perhaps Punk would have been a bit of a stretch I think they could have taken a cedible leap into the Power-Pop genre of which they would have had considerable influence over originally (think Big Star and The Raspberries in the early 70s but Cheap Trick, Dwight Twilley etc in the late 70s).
As pointed out, the 73 'in concert' album has near raucous guitar versions of their early hits, its a shame that this approach never carried over into the studio albums, even of the same period (Holland isn't particularly guitar heavy). As also said there is something of the early Beach Boys in the Ramones.
When I heard the version of 'Do Ya' by Jad Fair on the 'Caroline Now!' album, I thought that was a good indication of how they could have sounded in the late 70s, after Love You would have been the prime time to do it as there were a lot of simple, melodic and catchy songs which could have been turned into Power-Pop gems - Do Ya, Almost summer, It's ok (that had already obviously been done but still a good example), even a lot of stuff on the MIU album (a favourite of mine) has an almost raw production under the strings and keyboards (love the drum sound on it), imagine those songs with added crunchy guitars and they would have been on a winning streak.
Sadly the middle of the road beckoned and the turgid LA light album and KTSA alive are good examples of this...

Re: Brian's Fall US Tour

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:20:25 PDT

Quote from: Wild_Honey-In_Stereo on July 09, 2009, 04:05:09 PM

I like how he sold out the paradiso though, that's over a thousand in there I've been told

Nice little venue. Used to be a church until 1968. Nowadays it's a music venue, also nick-named the Dutch (or national) pop temple. No seats except from the balconies. Room for ca. 1500 visitors.
And the house was packed last Monday. A good choice (even it wasn't intended to be). If BW ever visits the Netherlands again, I hope they'll choose this venue again.

For it's history and a few pictures of Paradiso visit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradiso_(Amsterdam)
http://www.paradiso.nl/web/English-Agenda/About-paradiso.htm
http://www.paradiso.nl/web/English-Agenda/About-paradiso/History.htm

view from the stage
http://www.paradiso.nl/web/English-Agenda/About-paradiso/Paradiso-today-concert-hall-club-and-cultural-center.htm

view on the stage
http://www.paradiso.nl/web/Over-paradiso/Poppodium-club-tempel-van-nieuwe-cultuur.htm

Re: The Beach Boys Hate You

Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:05:43 PDT

Quote from: joe_blow on July 09, 2009, 09:04:17 PM

Was it the Queers who did a "punk" vesion of Don't Back Down, shown on the Imagination DVD? I have heard a handful of other Beach Boys' songs covered by punk artists, most notably Me First and The Gimme Gimmes (Sloop John B).

The Queers covered quite some Beach Boys songs. They did Don't Back Down, Little Honda, Salt Lake City and God Only Knows (unlisted bonus track, actually their own voices over the original backing track) and they also have a song called Brian Wilson.

Re: The Beach Boys Hate You

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:58:51 PDT

Quote from: TonyW on July 09, 2009, 06:02:41 PM

The 1964 live recording of "What'd I Say" is pretty darn punk.

Listen to the Surfin USA or Fun Fun Fun from the 73 In Concert album... gets pretty close as well.

Re: The Beach Boys Hate You

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:57:28 PDT

Quote from: TdHabib on July 09, 2009, 10:14:59 PM

Quote from: Wild_Honey-In_Stereo on July 09, 2009, 02:59:12 PM

Would of possibly been the greatest album title of all time

Would HAVE, Wild Honey, would HAVE!

o no, no that topic again...

Re: Brian's Fall US Tour

badsneakers@hotmail.co.uk — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:52:27 PDT

Have to say, when Dylan came to the UK recently, despite the fact he had a new album out, he played none of it and the shows he did were the worst of his that I've seen - and amongst the worst of anyone's. I saw two, several days apart. The reviews seemed to dance around the fact the shows were terrible without daring to admit the man who wrote all those great songs and who had a decent (but overrated) album out AND who is musical god might actually be bloody awful.

Re: California Calling

badsneakers@hotmail.co.uk — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:46:06 PDT

Let's see TLOS is meant to be about BW, isn't it? Are the lyrics of FSBMSG surprising in that context?

Re: Brian to perform 'new' old songs this year

hal_erickson@yahoo.com — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:24:36 PDT

Quote from: The Heartical Don on July 09, 2009, 10:31:36 AM

Quote from: LostArt on July 09, 2009, 06:56:46 AM

Quote from: Wee Helper on July 09, 2009, 04:42:43 AM

There's the Mike and Bruce Beach Boys (R) (C) (TM) (Patent Applied For), and the Al Jardine Endlessly-Not-Allowed-to-Call-Himself-A-Beach-Boy-Even-Though-We-All-Know-He-Is-Really Summer Friends, Families & Beaches Band.

Outstanding!

Agreed! A mighty fine effort... have a cigar!

Seconded! (or thirded). Make it a Cuban!

Re: The Beach Boys Hate You

hal_erickson@yahoo.com — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:15:24 PDT

Quote from: Surfer Joe on July 09, 2009, 09:45:27 PM

Quote from: Luther on July 09, 2009, 05:46:49 PM

"My stuff was always about positivity, I'm Mr. Positive," Love said, the blood and pus still oozing from the hole he pierced in his own nose with a rusty safety pin. "And I am positive I friggin' hate you. This, along with meditation is something that the Maharishi taught me when I was in Rishikesh with the Beatles. On that trip, I helped Paul McCartney write a little song called 'Back in the USSR'--I'm sure you've heard it. Well, we're doing a revved up version on our new album, The Beach Boys Hate You.

"That album, I should say, has a very interesting title--one that I came up with. I've always been a titles man, as you know. Pet Sounds is another one I came up with. But Hate You was, I thought, a very funny little play on words because a few years ago we came out with an album titled Love You. And I think that's really clever. But honestly, I think this album will be a great success, especially if the record company backs it with the kind of support we deserve--something they have not done with recent offerings, honestly not since Endless Summer (which I also titled, by the way). I mean, this will be a hit: Brian is truly back, and he's writing some great things, some creative things."

At this point the interview was interrupted by the sound of rhythm guitarist Al Jardine making the short fall from a standing position to the floor when the Boys were going to initiate him into punkdom with his own piercing. Jardine fainted when a shockingly furious-looking Bruce Johnston, pin in hand, shouted he was a "folk-tilted kitty." Love began to laugh. The interview, it seemed, was over.

Nice work, but at some point he should have been referred to as "The Hatester".

Why y'all gotta be hatin' on Dr. Love, fellas? Good stuff.

Re: Brian's Fall US Tour

GLarson432@aol.com — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:12:55 PDT

Quote from: JimC1702 on July 09, 2009, 08:40:41 AM
Yikes! $75.00 per seat at The Egg in Albany, NY. I'd like to go but that's pretty steep.

That's the closest BW show to me... Are the seats really that expensive?? Who does Brian think he is, The Eagles or The Rolling Stones??

As high as that may seem I think it's retatively normal for the current market. BS? Yes: Reality in today's world? Also yes.

I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma and it was announced on Thursday, July 8th, that Paul McCartney would be the 'special attraction' for a by then one year old (and very nice I have to say) indoor venue here. Ticket prices are yet to be announced but I'd bet $75 will look cheap in comparison.

Then again, it's Paul McCartney with universal appeal and not BW with, what, cult appeal at this point in time...?

Re: Brian's Fall US Tour

jheimsch@wi.rr.com — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:45:18 PDT

DonnaK- One nice thing about the Milwaukee concert is that the venue, The Pabst Theater, is a wonderful place. Not a bad seat in the house. Acustics are great. I've seem Brian there twice. Thought I'd pass this time. Ticket prices are getting crazy. Half the house is priced at 75.00.

Hope you have a wonderful time.

Re: Brian to perform 'new' old songs this year

rivertown19@earthlink.net — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:47:48 PDT

Wow. Sounds even more dreadful here than is reported in the US Tour thread.

If the oldies sets are such a drag for him, why fuckin do it?

(Esp. if they pay ain't all that good, cos the sales are sluggish, right?)

Re: Brian's Fall US Tour

rivertown19@earthlink.net — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:38:06 PDT

Not to be a killjoy or anything... but -

if the dates aren't selling well, so the paycheck ain't so great, and from what Andrew's sources tell him, Brian finds the "greatest hits" thing to be a bore, he's happier when he has new stuff to play out -

then why fuckin do it?

I saw Brian's last couple of tours because he had something new/interesting to show off - Smile, TLOS, the Pet Sounds suite with Al - but if there isn't a set of new things, why go? Neil Young and Dylan may be old, but they're still kicking new material, so they're NOT old - at least not that kind of old. This whole legacy act thing is starting to wear thin for me, and I'M a goddam legacy myself. Make a new record, go REAL deep into the back catalog, and I'm there.

Re: The Beach Boys Hate You

Afternothing99@aol.com — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:14:59 PDT

Quote from: Wild_Honey-In_Stereo on July 09, 2009, 02:59:12 PM

Would of possibly been the greatest album title of all time

Would HAVE, Wild Honey, would HAVE!

Re: The Beach Boys Hate You

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:00:06 PDT

Quote from: joe_blow on July 09, 2009, 09:04:17 PM

I heard a kick ass punk version of wendy on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-brwVv0fiWI

Oh and the Ramones covered a BB tune I think.

Oh and of course

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--6p9JsK7yE

They are really a band, they do shitty covers of the BB