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<![CDATA[Sorry to double-post, but while looking up the Surf City All-Stars, I saw that Al and David will also be joining them for a private show in Groton, CT on July 19th.<br /><br />Here&#39;s the link to the Surf City All-Stars&#39; website, where I read/&quot;found&quot; this: <a href="https://www.surfcityallstars.com/tourdates.html" target="_blank">https://www.surfcityallstars.com/tourdates.html</a>]]>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2025 04:50:07 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[Of course I&#39;d heard GV often but it was before I&#39;d actually become a fan, as was H&amp;V. H&amp;V just appealed immediately. I didn&#39;t have a reasoned response to it - perhaps a case of&nbsp; presque vu (&#39;the intense feeling of being on the very brink of a powerful epiphany&#39;). I got there eventually lol!<br /><br />Indeed, kudos to Dan Lega. I&#39;d have joined in but my sojourn on endless harmony was not a happy experience. I love your &#39;too-near-faraway-place&#39;.&nbsp; And, yes, some of those who post there are nice people.&nbsp; AGD called my sister, friend (who used to post on the Blueboard as Starry) and me &#39;the three witches&#39; so I wouldn&#39;t include him in that number though of course he knows a lot about the history. AGD was surprisingly restrained - I&#39;m guessing he is trying not to engage much on the subject of David&#39;s book, other than to let us know he already has a copy. Had Brian&#39;s brain been fried after his first LSD experience perhaps they&#39;d have had a point but Brian&#39;s descent into a bad period took longer than that, was far more gradual.<br /><br />I should get the book tomorrow. The press release mentioned how Here Come De Honey man was included in the Vigotone SMiLE and people assumed it was written by Brian. Unsurprising really as it is Gershwin. Someone posted that the guy who&#39;d done this had deliberately done it to find who was leaking his stuff. I&#39;m sorry - probably you know this already. If I did, I&#39;d forgotten.<br /><br />Thanks very much for your interesting reply!]]>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2025 00:34:15 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[Thanks, Angela. H&amp;V is a great track; it suffered so much because it had to follow GV. I tend to think that the relative moodiness of its chorus might have worked against it for the radio listener--it just seems that the mood switch in GV adds to the song&#39;s overall impact, while H&amp;V somehow turns more cerebral than emotional. That doesn&#39;t diminish its overall quality, but it seems paler than GV and that probably kept it from making the Top 10.<br /><br />Also--kudos to Dan Lega for going toe-to-toe with several of the &quot;kahunas&quot; over at EH (which I like to call &quot;the too-near faraway place.&quot;) <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/smokin.gif" alt="Smokin" border="0" />&nbsp; Of course that does something of a disservice to a number of fine folks who post there, but the parallel thread about David&#39;s new book turned predictably turgid once one particular name cropped up in the conversation. As expected, AGD (who appears in the book) was milder than was previously the case with David, but he and the &quot;Beach Girl&quot; both manifested major mouth-foam once Lorren Daro&#39;s name surfaced. I was in the middle of that notorious thread here when Daro appeared; he made the mistake of being provocatively negative about Mike and Marilyn, and the resulting furor from those two was truly appalling. And nearly fifteen years later they are still at it, literally beating a dead horse. Good on you, Dan, for giving much better than you got with both of them. It&#39;s especially a shame with AGD, he&#39;s done such a lot of good work--but that strange darkness in his soul is just in there waiting for the &quot;right&quot; trigger...<br /><br />Many other good posts in the thread, including several from Will JC, but it was inevitable that the thread would get bogged down by these overblown (and irrelevant) vendettas. ]]>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2025 22:26:13 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am kind of torn about what album I am going to review next. I could do SMiLE since it was recorded next but I am planning to cover both TSS and BWPS in it so it will be a major challenge to write or should I just skip to Smiley Smile and do SMiLE later?]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2025 08:36:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Just went on YouTube. It&#39;s showing a bunch of NEW Brian Wilson tunes. The weird thing about this are the vocals sound NOTHING like Brian or anyone else from Brian&#39;s band or any of the remaining Beach Boys. The songwriting itself is not Brian oriented. Is this some kind of joke or did YouTube screw up? Any info concerning this would be appreciated!]]></description>
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<![CDATA[Thank you. A very interesting assessment of the situation and I&#39;d agree that it was the reaction to his efforts that had a cumulative effect on Brian, rather than just a reaction to his first experience of LSD as some are trying to suggest.<br /><br />I first became a fan in 1969 but before I had even done so the first Beach Boys song I really loved was Heroes and Villains. I could never - and still can&#39;t - understand the reaction to it. Some were so diappointed that Brian&#39;s love song to California had reached the last verse perhaps. I loved it from the first time I heard it and still do.]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2025 23:22:39 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[From what David has said parenthetically in several of his interviews is that some of the UK folks were included in the &quot;anthology&quot; section of the book. <br /><br />Whether that will temper any of the criticism that David will likely endure for continuing to present SMiLE as a partial mutiny by the rest of the band is hard to predict. <br /><br />I have the book ordered and look forward to reading it. I&#39;m not surprised, however, that additional details about the 1967 phase of SMiLE are sparse. And that is an area where the EH folks are quite likely to linger over at some great length.<br /><br />As I see it, the part of the story that we still need to know centers around the details of the decision to &quot;reboot&quot; from SMiLE to Smiley Smile and the understanding within the group that must have been in place regarding what Brian would do once Smiley was completed. It seems that it took a bit longer to get Smiley out into the marketplace than was usually the case for the band&#39;s LPs; Pet Sounds came out just under a month after its final reassembly (per the entries at Bellagio); Smiley took two months to reach stores (mid-September) after being mastered on July 20th (again, per Bellagio). It appears that Brian planned to transition the group into a new direction (what became the Wild Honey LP) and resume a new round of outside productions (Redwood). But the drubbing that Smiley Smile took in the press and in the marketplace created so much consternation that it utterly upended things. What remains unconfirmed/unspoken is that a Brian &quot;solo Smile&quot; was part of an agreement to launch the Brother/Capitol label, as alluded to by Brad Elliot based on the Karl Engemann memo from late September. That was all disappeared in short order after the &quot;Redwood intervention,&quot; which David refers to as Brian&#39;s Rubicon of &quot;de-involvement&quot; with music.<br /><br />But it doesn&#39;t seem to be quite that cut-and-dried, though it certainly must contain a large dollop of truth. It appears that Brian&#39;s response was to write more songs for what became the Wild Honey LP--tracks that appear to have been composed in the time <span style="text-decoration: underline;">after</span> the Redwood confrontation (checking the listed dates at Bellagio). Sales results for Wild Honey were an encouraging improvement, with &quot;Darlin&#39;&quot; proving that the intervenors were right: it was a Top 20 hit and provided encouragement that the band could regain their footing. <br /><br />Lost in that appears to be the idea that Brian could have solo projects, which is the main emphasis of David&#39;s approach to those times (without any actual blow-by-blow elaborations beyond the &quot;Redwood intervention&quot;). How Brian resigned himself to this and continued to churn out music is a bit hard to fathom; but that&#39;s what he did, with a flurry of work from February-April 1968. <br /><br />But note that the Friends LP has a strange &quot;release path&quot; similar to Smiley: two months elapse between its mastering and its release, which suggests a time of turmoil and uncertainty. And there <span style="text-decoration: underline;">was </span>a great deal of turmoil in play, with the disastrous &quot;Maharishi tour&quot; occurring just after the release of the &quot;Friends&quot; single in April (which barely cracked the Top 50), spawning an &quot;emergency return to the beach&quot; with the one-off &quot;Do It Again&quot; (recorded as part of another flurry of activity in June). That song helped to fend off the total disaster of the Friends LP utterly tanking in the charts, but it appears to have cemented a kind of rift between Brian and the band over the fact that his approach to effecting the band&#39;s recovery hadn&#39;t worked. <br /><br />And it seems that Brian made one more effort to transcend all that with &quot;Can&#39;t Wait Too Long,&quot; looking to make it into a &quot;mega-single&quot; in a vein similar/analogous to &quot;Good Vibrations.&quot; Late July was devoted to one more attempt to get it right, replete with modular-type assembly. It seems to have resulted in the same type of anti-climactic uncertainty that plagued &quot;Heroes &amp; Villains in early &#39;67. And it appears to be a flashpoint for Brian&#39;s depression and withdrawal--ironically occurring in tandem with the operational completion of the home studio at Bellagio, which brought the band into an odd proximity with Brian as he became only a fitful participant in the band&#39;s creative efforts over the next four years (before Marilyn had the studio dismantled).<br /><br />With a Brother Records lifeline for solo projects reneged on and deactivated, and the subsequent resurrection of SMiLE tracks by the band, Brian&#39;s response to such a bitter irony--to withdraw and wave away any/all questions regarding it--can be seen as the actions of a man retreating on a path to avoid total self-destruction. It fed what became a growing drug habit, which treated the symptoms but held no promise for a cure--and the rest of the story is told with eloquence and empathy by David, an effort that, thanks to sensitive perseverance and ongoing support, ultimately paid off. <br /><br />Since much of what is outlined above is not central to the SMiLE saga, I figure David didn&#39;t see fit to incorporate any details that could confirm, correct or refute the above speculation. Clearly some of the above would be seen as &quot;dirty laundry&quot; and has been kept purposefully vague over the intervening years; but it seems to me to be a plausible set of basic details that give us an outline of the internecine events within the band in the immediate aftermath of the SMiLE era. Of course, your mileage may vary...]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2025 23:11:35 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><a href="http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=28598.msg685726#msg685726">Quote from: Dan Lega on April 05, 2025, 06:03:48 AM</a></div><div class="quote">I think I heard the Gershwin tune got included so that if the tape ever became widely distributed (e.g., bootlegged) then the provider of the tape would know the person he gave it to, and thus could make sure he never gave any other &quot;illegal goods&quot; to that person. &nbsp;But that makes me wonder, does that mean other people may have received early SMiLE outtake cassettes with different non-SMiLE songs? &nbsp;If so, I wonder what they were!<br /><br />And, Angela, the book does a great job of bringing back feelings from the premiere! &nbsp;I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll love it as much as I did!<br /><br />(And, yeah, Andrew used to mostly be a curmudgeon with a bit of charm.&nbsp; But now he&#39;s turned into the KGB of Beach Boys history! &nbsp;If you don&#39;t agree with his interpretation of things he will try to tear you down. &nbsp;I got into an argument about SMiLE over at that board last year. &nbsp;It was not pretty. &nbsp;And the discussion of the David Leaf book, which has morphed into a discussion of Loren Daro, the first person to give Brian LSD, is eliciting the same attacks. &nbsp;He calls himself a historian, yet it seems that if someone gets one fact wrong, then EVERYTHING that person says can&#39;t be trusted. &nbsp;Of course, this standard only applies to folks who spout a different version of history than the one he wants to believe.)<br /></div><br />I&#39;ve read several of your comments and agree with all of them and had I been able to post on &#39;Endless Harmony&#39; (if ever there was a misnomer lol!) I&#39;d have said so and no doubt annoyed AGD again! The LSD thing - yes, it can be harmful, though they knew less of that at the time, but I was just recently listening to an interview done by Brian in 1968, long after SMiLE had been shelved. Brian was totally with it, clear, talkative. Brian became damaged later on and I think being artistically derailed had something to do with that. There are those who are so anxious to deny that other members of the band had any responsibility for the shelving of SMiLE that they prefer to try to blame the drugs. Bottom line is, it was mainly because of Mike that the collaborator, Van Dyke Parks, walked away. I&#39;ve had so many arguments with Andrew over the years, though of course I accept he knows lots of the facts. I make mistakes and so does he. <br /><br />Like all of us, Brian has said different things at different times. But Brian has CLEARLY stated the reasons for SMiLE&#39;s non-release, that Mike didn&#39;t like it, that he was anxious it was too experimental, that the Fire Music freaked him out. And yet when he finally recorded that music, it got him his first Grammy. A phoenix arising from the ashes.<br /><br />I should get the book on Monday. Really looking forward to it.]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2025 16:47:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><a href="http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=28598.msg685725#msg685725">Quote from: bossaroo on April 04, 2025, 08:49:58 PM</a></div><div class="quote">the Miles Davis song is &quot;Here Come de Honey Man&quot; a Gershwin tune from his Porgy &amp; Bess album: <a href="https://youtu.be/q8gZ7QBGyMI" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/q8gZ7QBGyMI</a><br /><br />one of several dubbed cassette SMiLE boots I owned did indeed include the Miles song and I had no reason to believe it wasn&#39;t part of the sessions, til I heard P&amp;B a few years later.<br /><br />it&#39;s a short repetitive piece, dreamy and lovely, so it does kind of fit but I&#39;d be interested to know how it ever got included on a SMiLE boot.<br /></div><br />Thanks! I thought that would be it TBH. I love it and I can see that it kind of fits! I&#39;ve got so much SMiLE stuff i lose track of it. We may have had to wait years foir Brian to complete it but so many others did their own assemblages. And the mosaic aspects of SMiLE make it very easy to do various versions.]]>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2025 16:28:48 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[<div class="quoteheader"><a href="http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=28601.msg685727#msg685727">Quote from: Dan Lega on April 05, 2025, 06:23:14 AM</a></div><div class="quote">That is correct!&nbsp; I wrote that out and posted to this board!<br /><br />But I do have to say I was not the one who &quot;found&quot; them.&nbsp; Another researcher, whose name I&#39;ve unfortunately forgotten, please forgive me(!), found out through an online search where they were located.&nbsp; (I believe the researcher lived in Europe?)&nbsp;<br /></div><br /><br />It may have been &quot;Jasper&quot; from Switzerland. I think he was involved with this. Nice guy. He was the admin for a german Beach Boys forum back then. Unfortunately I haven&#39;t heard from him for a long, long time. Hope he is doing alright.<br /><br /><br /><br />]]>
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<![CDATA[<br />Yeah, theirs is different in more ways than one.&nbsp; This one starts off with reel #75.&nbsp; So you&#39;re also missing the part about them singing &quot;open country&quot; -- almost certainly from &quot;Great Shape!&quot;<br /><br /><br />--------------------------------<br /><br /><br />75 (signifying Reel #75)<br /><br />1. hands to face CR angle<br /><br />can&#39;t see hands pan to hands in dark<br /><br />child Is the Father of man<br /><br />2. Heroes &amp;amp; Villains plays<br /><br />Vandyke Parks has been working on lyrics<br /><br />sings open country song [as per &quot;I&#39;m In Great Shape&quot;]]>]<![CDATA[<br /><br />Sunshine<br /><br /><br /><br />76 Surf&#39;s up cu (or cw? or au?) CR<br /><br />-&gt; takes guts to catch wave<br /><br />can visualize intervals on piano<br /><br /><br /><br />77 x piano Surf&#39;s Up<br /><br />PB<br /><br />Surf&#39;s up candelabra shot CL<br /><br /><br /><br />78 Scratch&amp;nbsp;<br /><br />Wilson &amp;amp; friends <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" /><img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />83<br /><br />1. engineer<br /><br />2. pan up to Brian<br /><br />3. board<br /><br />4. Boys singing who Ran The Iron Horse<br /><br />(Above &quot;who Ran&quot; is the scratched out word &quot;Hooray&quot;<br /><br />as if he wasn&#39;t sure what the words were.)<br /><br />5. Wilson <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" /><img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />? (judging, foda?!?!)<br /><br />6. Boys singing who Ran The Iron Horse<br /><br />7. Do Wa Wa in circle<br /><br />8. Wilson <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" /><img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" /> (shelving?!)<br /><br /><br /><br />84 9. Let&#39;s work on microphone<br /><br />boys around mike<br /><br />Do wa<br /><br /><br /><br />85 Brian at piano working out(?)<br /><br />Yodelledo [yodelling version of &quot;Wonderful&quot;, evidently]]>]<![CDATA[<br /><br />then group sings at mike<br /><br /><br /><br />86 Group around mike Yodelledo<br /><br />Playback Yodelledoo&#39;s control in b.g.<br /><br />Inside control room Group &amp;amp; Engineer Da daum(?) (La daum?)<br /><br />Go out into studio Brian eating cereal record da da da da<br /><br /><br /><br />86<br /><br />1. around mike Yodeladeeo pan to Piano<br /><br />Brian walks out frame(?) to outside booth playback<br /><br />walks to control board<br /><br />2. Brian talking <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />?? (bad pa toheps) to engineer<br /><br />3. dark 4/s listening to playback<br /><br />Brian goes to <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />?? (sirke?!) eats, put on headphones<br /><br />sing dine dine [&quot;doing doing&quot; from &quot;Cabin Essence&quot;]]>]<![CDATA[<br /><br />Scratch<br /><br /><br /><br />87<br /><br />1. control board thru window track on(?)<br /><br />dine dine<br /><br />Let&#39;s go have some Zen accompaniment<br /><br />2. Brian at piano from behind<br /><br />plays chords<br /><br /><br /><br />87<br /><br />engineer thru glass to group in(?) b.g. record da da<br /><br />group comes back into room &amp;amp; listens to da da da<br /><br />let&#39;s go lets have some zen compliment<br /><br />Brian at piano from behind accomp. to Surf&#39;s up<br /><br />to hands to face CL around to x &amp;amp; back to CL<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />88 Brian eating<br /><br />headphones listening to piano track<br /><br />sings lead on(?) thru piano<br /><br />1 more time<br /><br />--&gt; tone(?) &amp;amp; start again side view CL<br /><br />-&gt; start at 2nd verse hung velvet<br /><br />misses the glass<br /><br />pickup hung velvet stop at dove nested<br /><br />have echo on me<br /><br />pickup again at hung velvet<br /><br /><br /><br />R88<br /><br />1. Brian eating sits at piano<br /><br />2. lead on Brian e(?) earphone singing into mike<br /><br />3. Brian at piano sings not(?) (nor?) sleeping(?!) (leeping?) pan across piano<br /><br />Surf&#39;s up<br /><br /><img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />?? words to back top<br /><br />&amp;amp; false starts<br /><br />tone(?)<br /><br />move to side start again - go to colonnaded ruins<br /><br />&quot;cut again to end verse&quot;<br /><br />false start, then humg velvet c moves to side [&quot;c&quot; is probably &quot;camera&quot;]]>]<![CDATA[<br /><br />&quot;missed it pickup 2nd verse&quot;<br /><br />&#39;no I can&#39;t do it(?) - You have echo on me &quot;<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />?? (julimp?!?!)<br /><br />2nd verse again<br /><br /><br /><br />89 Overdubs<br /><br />hung velvet lead on(?) <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" /><img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />?? (jumoles?!?!) -- let&#39;s overdub<br /><br />it<br /><br />move to CR side (?).s. 11(?) more around behind<br /><br />move around to face CL he gestures<br /><br />he talks while voice go(?)<br /><br />mono mix - Id like it softer<br /><br />let&#39;s go to top is that cool<br /><br />LS&amp;nbsp; CL overdub<br /><br />LS hung velvet out sync<br /><br />LS thru control room<br /><br />2nd shot n.g. (?) [ng = no good]]>]<![CDATA[<br /><br />needle<br /><br />recorder pan to engineer back to recorder<br /><br /><br /><br />89<br /><br />1. head on &quot;hung velvet PB<br /><br />that&#39;s it let&#39;s overdub it<br /><br />2. &quot;Are you hearing yourself now?&quot; words(?)<br /><br />mix it so you can hear both voices <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />&quot; (boy?) (tog? for together?)<br /><br /><img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />?? (pans?) back move around<br /><br />&quot;go to top&quot; Take 1<br /><br />3. LS piano are you sleeping<br /><br />4. &quot; &quot; (ditto marks under &quot;LS piano&quot;)<br /><br />5. thru booth to Brian<br /><br />6. needle<br /><br />7. recorder spinning to engineer to recorder<br /><br /><br /><br />90<br /><br />--&gt; playback engineers bg Wilson fig.<br /><br />fade in(?)<br /><br />kneels -- can have muted trumpet go bleep(?)<br /><br />move to us(?) half of Jules [Jules Siegel]]>]<![CDATA[<br /><br />Brian coat on walks out<br /><br /><br /><br />90<br /><br />1. Brian listening<br /><br />Stretching<br /><br />2. Brian <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" /><img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />? (putting on vocal leads?<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />)<br /><br /><br /><br />Pool [presumably the footage of the band, and Murry, shot Brian&#39;s pool at Laurel Way]]>]<![CDATA[<br /><br /><br /><br />Bodies toward camera]]>
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<![CDATA[Yeah, at Endless Harmony their last entry is different from the one you copied. &nbsp;It apparently said, &quot;Pool&quot; and &quot;bodies toward camera.&quot;<br /><br />-----------<br /><br />90<br /><br />1. Brian listening<br /><br />Stretching<br /><br />2. Brian <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" /><img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />? (putting on vocal leads?<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/huh.gif" alt="Huh" border="0" />)<br /><br /><br /><br />Pool [presumably the footage of the band, and Murry, shot Brian&#39;s pool at Laurel Way]]>]<![CDATA[<br /><br /><br /><br />Bodies toward camera<br /><br /><br />-------------<br /><br /><br />But that&#39;s weird.&nbsp; How can their Reel #90 be completely different than your Reel #90?!]]>
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<![CDATA[That is correct!&nbsp; I wrote that out and posted to this board!<br /><br />But I do have to say I was not the one who &quot;found&quot; them.&nbsp; Another researcher, whose name I&#39;ve unfortunately forgotten, please forgive me(!), found out through an online search where they were located.&nbsp; (I believe the researcher lived in Europe?)&nbsp; It so happened that at that time I worked in NYU&#39;s Bobst Library!&nbsp; So I was able to go up to the special collection they were in and look through the folder and transcribe it as best I could.&nbsp; (At one point there was legend that would tell you what all the brackets and parentheses and other things meant -- meaning some things I couldn&#39;t make out and was guessing at, and other were explanations of abbreviations, or possible guesses as to what was being referenced.)<br /><br />As to the pool scene... someone reposted the list at the Endless Harmony board, too, and I thought I saw that the last reel said something about the Boys in the pool (swimming toward camera, I believe.)&nbsp; I&#39;d have to go over there and check to see for sure.<br /><br /><br />Love and merci,<br />Dan Lega ]]>
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<![CDATA[I think I heard the Gershwin tune got included so that if the tape ever became widely distributed (e.g., bootlegged) then the provider of the tape would know the person he gave it to, and thus could make sure he never gave any other &quot;illegal goods&quot; to that person. &nbsp;But that makes me wonder, does that mean other people may have received early SMiLE outtake cassettes with different non-SMiLE songs? &nbsp;If so, I wonder what they were!<br /><br />And, Angela, the book does a great job of bringing back feelings from the premiere! &nbsp;I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll love it as much as I did!<br /><br />(And, yeah, Andrew used to mostly be a curmudgeon with a bit of charm.&nbsp; But now he&#39;s turned into the KGB of Beach Boys history! &nbsp;If you don&#39;t agree with his interpretation of things he will try to tear you down. &nbsp;I got into an argument about SMiLE over at that board last year. &nbsp;It was not pretty. &nbsp;And the discussion of the David Leaf book, which has morphed into a discussion of Loren Daro, the first person to give Brian LSD, is eliciting the same attacks. &nbsp;He calls himself a historian, yet it seems that if someone gets one fact wrong, then EVERYTHING that person says can&#39;t be trusted. &nbsp;Of course, this standard only applies to folks who spout a different version of history than the one he wants to believe.)]]>
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<![CDATA[the Miles Davis song is &quot;Here Come de Honey Man&quot; a Gershwin tune from his Porgy &amp; Bess album: <a href="https://youtu.be/q8gZ7QBGyMI" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/q8gZ7QBGyMI</a><br /><br />one of several dubbed cassette SMiLE boots I owned did indeed include the Miles song and I had no reason to believe it wasn&#39;t part of the sessions, til I heard P&amp;B a few years later.<br /><br />it&#39;s a short repetitive piece, dreamy and lovely, so it does kind of fit but I&#39;d be interested to know how it ever got included on a SMiLE boot.]]>
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<![CDATA[&#39;The majority of the Endless Harmony board is not going to like it.&#39;<br /><br />You got that right!<br /><br />I don&#39;t post there - AGD and I are not the best of friends! - and though my sister and I did post for awhile, when she got into an argument and decided to leave, and he responded with &#39;Result!&#39; I gave up too.<br /><br />I checked it out though. They really don&#39;t like the idea that &#39;the Boys&#39; had anything to do with the non release of SMiLE.....]]>
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<![CDATA[All credit and major kudos to Dan Lega - Those are Dan&#39;s original transcriptions of notes taken from David Oppenheim&#39;s &quot;Inside Pop&quot; archives, which I believe Dan accessed at the NYU library where Oppenheim&#39;s archives are located, and the info which really heated up discussions on the lost Inside Pop footage searches back in the day.<br /><br />This was probably 20 years ago and I think I saved those posts from either the old Smile Shop or another defunct forum, so maybe Dan himself can chime in with more details of how he got those notes.<br /><br />One item I did not see in those notes was the footage of Murry Wilson diving into a swimming pool, which Michael Vosse said was filmed by Oppenheim&#39;s CBS News crew, unless it was on another camera sheet that Dan did not get in the collection.]]>
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<![CDATA[Hi Dan,<br /><br />a few years back the shot list of those reels was posted here. This list has been borrowed from a post by Guitarfool:<br /><br />84<br />9. Let&#39;s work on microphone<br />boys around mike<br />Do wa<br /><br /><br />85 Brian at piano working out<br />Yodelledo<br />then group sings at mike<br /><br /><br />86 Group around mike Yodelledo<br />Playback Yodelledoo&#39;s control in b.g.<br />Inside control room Group &amp; Engineer Da daum(?)<br />Go out into studio Brian eating cereal record da da da<br /><br /><br />Beach Boys<br /><br /><br />86<br /><br />1. around mike Yodeladeeo pan to Piano<br />Brian walks out frame(?) to outside booth playback<br />walks to control board<br /><br />2. Brian talking Huh?? (bad pa toheps) to engineer<br />3. dark 4/s listening to playback<br />Brian goes to Huh?? (sirke?!) eats, put on headphones<br />sing dine dine<br /><br />Scratch<br /><br />87<br />1. control board thru window track on(?)<br />dine dine<br />Let&#39;s go have some Zen accompaniment<br />2. Brian at piano from behind<br />plays chords<br /><br /><br />87<br />engineer thru glass to group in(?) b.g. record da da<br />group comes back into room &amp; listens to da da da<br />let&#39;s go lets have some zen compliment<br /><br />Brian at piano from behind accomp. to Surf&#39;s up<br />to hands to face CL around to x &amp; back to CL<br /><br /><br />88 Brian eating<br />headphones listening to piano track<br />sings lead on(?) thru piano<br />1 more time<br />--&gt; tone(?) &amp; start again side view CL<br />-&gt; start at 2nd verse hung velvet<br />misses the glass<br />pickup hung velvet stop at dove nested<br />have echo on me<br />pickup again at hung velvet<br /><br /><br />89 Overdubs<br />hung velvet lead on(?) HuhHuh?? (jumoles?!?!) -- let&#39;s overdub<br />it<br />move to CR side (?).s. 11(?) more around behind<br />move around to face CL he gestures<br />he talks while voice go(?)<br /><br />mono mix - Id like it softer<br />let&#39;s go to top is that cool<br /><br />LS CL overdub<br />LS hung velvet out sync<br />LS thru control room<br />2nd shot n.g.(?)<br />needle<br />recorder pan to engineer back to recorder<br /><br /><br />90<br />--&gt; playback engineers bg Wilson fig.<br />fade in(?)<br />kneels -- can have muted trumpet go bleep(?)<br />move to us(?) half of Jules<br />Brian coat on walks out ]]>
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<![CDATA[&nbsp;<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/Santa.jpg" alt="" border="0" /> &nbsp;&quot;DO WA WA&quot;, W/ ? &nbsp; ODD ! &nbsp; &nbsp; <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/banana.gif" alt="Banana" border="0" /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;DO &nbsp;WA &nbsp;WA&quot; &nbsp;= &nbsp;W*O*D &nbsp;! ]]>&#65533;<![CDATA[ &nbsp; <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/brian_smiley.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><br />-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />&nbsp;<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/Santa.jpg" alt="" border="0" /> &nbsp;&quot;ML, DO &nbsp;Y*O*D*E*L*L*E*D*O !&quot; &nbsp; Y? &nbsp; <img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/grouphug.gif" alt="group hug" border="0" /> &nbsp;&quot;Y&quot;? &nbsp;MY &nbsp;Y*O*D*E*L*L*E*D*O : &nbsp;YODL, M ! ]]>&#65533;<![CDATA[ &nbsp;<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/brian_smiley.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><br />-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />&nbsp;<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/Santa.jpg" alt="" border="0" /> &nbsp;&quot;HOLY GRAIL&quot;? &nbsp;U &nbsp;LIAR ! &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/angel.gif" alt="angel" border="0" /> &nbsp; G! &nbsp;Y, L? OH.... &nbsp;]]>&#65533;<![CDATA[ &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://smileysmile.net/board/Smileys/default/brian_smiley.jpg" alt="" border="0" />]]>
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<![CDATA[Nice song selections. Someone on the Endless Harmony forum proposed this one:<br /><br /><div class="quoteheader">Quote</div><div class="quote">The Beach Boys - Somewhere Out in Malibu<br /><br />1. Baywatch Nights (Dancing the Night Away)&nbsp; <br />2. Soul Searchin&#39;&nbsp; <br />3. Unleash the Love (Mike mentioned in an interview in &#39;95 that this was a song he had that Brian loved)&nbsp; &nbsp;<br />4. Don&#39;t Fight the Sea <br />5. You&#39;re Still a Mystery <br />6. Waves of Love <br />7. Elbow &#39;63 <br />8. Chain Reaction of Love <br />9. Run Don&#39;t Walk<br />10. Desert Drive<br />11. Mary Anne <br />12. Proud Mary<br />13. Gettin&#39; in Over My Head <br />14. In My Moondreams<br />15. Must Be a Miracle </div>]]>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2025 10:24:47 GMT</pubDate>
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<![CDATA[See, THIS is what I was talking about when I said on the other thread: &quot;I kinda feel like we&#39;re long overdue for some kind of game-changing Smile tidbit...&quot;<br /><br />Of course the hope is that some genuinely lost piece of Smile ( e.g., full or partial versions of CIFOTM or IIGS or H&amp;V or whatever) was captured by Oppenheim and his crew.]]>
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<![CDATA[God, I love this question. I think that looking at the Wilson-Paley song list can give you a pretty good idea. Something like &quot;It&#39;s Not Easy Being Me&quot; was probably intended as a BW solo track. But something like &quot;Desert Drive&quot; clearly has vocal lines for the Boys. I also think that such an album would clearly have spots for Al or Mike or Bruce features, along with Brian&#39;s material. So something like the following seems plausible to me --<br /><br />SOUL SEARCHIN&#39; (The Beach Boys, 1996)<br /><br />Soul Searchin&#39;<br />You&#39;re Still a Mystery<br />Dancin&#39; the Night Away / Baywatch Nights<br />Desert Drive<br />My Mary Anne<br />Proud Mary (we know he worked on this with Don Was)<br />Chain Reaction of Love<br />Saturday Morning in the City<br />I&#39;m Broke (maybe? or possibly another BW tune)<br />And I Always Will / Jenny Clover (Al Jardine spot)<br />Glow Crescent Glow (or some Mike Love song)<br /><br />Realistically, these were the songs that were most done and that could have incorporated the &#39;90s BB voices most successfully. At least to my ears!]]>
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<![CDATA[Thanks so much for the review. I am due to get the book on Monday - even more impatient now.<br /><br />I&#39;m a completist! And I love books (though not much room for them I have so many).<br /><br />I chose to opt out of the opportunity to detail my feelings at the SMiLE Live premiere in the RFH. After the show was different! Total strangers involved in profound conversation. It was hard to just go home!<br /><br />Anything that reminds me of that occasion is a good thing.<br /><br />Mojo informs us of several things we learn from the book- to mention just two:<br />&#39;&#39;One bootleg version of SMiLE included a Miles Davis performance that many fans long thought was a Wilson composition.<br />&#39;Before the fourth Royal Festival Hall show, Paul McCartney showed up at Wilson]]>&#65533;<![CDATA[s door, playing ukulele; he then prayed with the band.&#39;<br /><br />Both new to me. What is the Miles Davis performance referred to here? If I knew, I&#39;ve forgotten!<br /><br />]]>
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