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Smiley Smile Message Board http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php Come visit and discuss the Beach Boys, music, or most anything else, with people ranging from fellow fans to Stephen Desper, Mark Linett, Jon Stebbins, Carrie Marks, Alan Boyd, Andrew Doe, Mark London, and Peter Ames Carlin. <![CDATA[Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28354.msg683881.html#msg683881 http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28354.0 Mon, 11 Mar 2024 03:15:05 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28354.msg683881.html#msg683881 <![CDATA[Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28354.msg683880.html#msg683880
The old BW songs gain their power from him being, well, old.

To his credit, Dae Lims gets this and has been very careful in his approach. Desert Drive is a full latter day BB version. The Like in I Love You have been given a full band treatment, but it]]>��
But putting a young BW on MAD, for example, or the Paley tracks ]]>�� http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28354.0 Mon, 11 Mar 2024 01:20:41 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28354.msg683880.html#msg683880 <![CDATA[Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28354.msg683879.html#msg683879 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pXoctCEZkA]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28354.0 Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:57:16 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28354.msg683879.html#msg683879 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683878.html#msg683878 Quote from: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on March 08, 2024, 12:23:12 PM

David Leafs eulogy from Tuesday March 5th is towards the bottom of the page here https://www.brianwilson.com/melinda

Beautiful and clearly heartfelt words from DL. The fellow is a mensch.
]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Sun, 10 Mar 2024 00:15:01 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683878.html#msg683878 <![CDATA[Re: A Book of Brian: new site for in-depth commentary on Brian Wilson/Beach Boys]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28474.msg683877.html#msg683877 http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28474.0 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 20:45:13 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28474.msg683877.html#msg683877 <![CDATA[Re: PET SQUARES #19: Part 1 of a 7-part closeup on PET SOUNDS]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28475.msg683876.html#msg683876 http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28475.0 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 01:02:34 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28475.msg683876.html#msg683876 <![CDATA[Re: New book: The Beach Boys by The Beach Boys]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28453.msg683875.html#msg683875
https://www.goldminemag.com/music-history/beach-boys-biographer-sorts-out-the-positivity-and-discord-of-legendary-group]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28453.0 Sat, 09 Mar 2024 00:33:52 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28453.msg683875.html#msg683875 <![CDATA[PET SQUARES #19: Part 1 of a 7-part closeup on PET SOUNDS]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28475.msg683874.html#msg683874 https://youtu.be/KD49RHeHiQE

PET SQUARES #19 is the first of a planned 7-part series of eps devoted to what may be the deepest, most comprehensive dive into the Beach Boys' masterpiece PET SOUNDS available on youTube. Even though the album has been analyzed plenty by many, PET SQUARES' goal is (as always) to offer new perspectives on the Beach Boys' classic work.

Part 1 "Finding A Direction" talks about what Brian was (and wasn't) up to in the months leading up to PET SOUNDS, his collaboration with Tony Asher, and the lyrical themes on the album. The next episode will spotlight the band's and the label's reactions to the music, and the episodes to follow will be deep-dive music and song-by-song analysis.

Enjoy, and comments are always welcome...ones on youTube always help goose the algorithm. My humble little channel just hit 2K subscribers so, many thanks to all who subscribed and also are patrons of the channel. It has taken awhile to get this up, but the goal as always to do a good job. The next two episodes are already filmed so hopefully they will follow before too long. Thanks all!]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28475.0 Fri, 08 Mar 2024 23:40:45 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28475.msg683874.html#msg683874 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683873.html#msg683873 https://www.brianwilson.com/melinda]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Fri, 08 Mar 2024 20:23:12 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683873.html#msg683873 <![CDATA[Re: A Book of Brian: new site for in-depth commentary on Brian Wilson/Beach Boys]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28474.msg683872.html#msg683872 http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28474.0 Fri, 08 Mar 2024 11:46:56 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28474.msg683872.html#msg683872 <![CDATA[A Book of Brian: new site for in-depth commentary on Brian Wilson/Beach Boys]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28474.msg683871.html#msg683871
Link: https://bookofbrian.substack.com

(Or, type "book of brian [dot]]>]]
For those who are interested, the best way to get a sense of what it's about is to read the "Introduction" (in a Q & A format) and then basically explore what's there. My original intention was to offer writing/commentary on a variety of Brian Wilson and Beach Boys-related topics, but the nature of the Substack platform and how it operates makes doing that hard. As of late, what I've been focusing on is the basics (which are complicated enough as it is): recounting the story of Brian Wilson, step-by-step, chapter by chapter, with a good amount of care, detail and analysis (The most recent posting is about the car-song era of 1963.) There's currently other material in addition to this: (1) some critical commentary about Brian Wilson generally; (2) a close look at the circumstances of the Beach Boys' founding in 1960-61 that questions the assumption that Murry Wilson willingly helped his sons form the group and kindly introduced them to Hite & Dorinda Morgan; (3) a multi-part essay about the difficult issue of Murry Wilson in general. There's also an extensive list of Beach Boy reference material/information sources.

I've been aiming to post a new chapter at the rate of roughly once per week, and each installment is usually supposed to take about 10 minutes to read.

This is sort of an experiment; to see if it's possible to publish extended writing on the internet, using a platform which is convenient, but really not designed for what I want to do but more for bite-sized blogging. I hope and expect to keep it going at least through to the end of 2024. Also, a reminder that this material is offered for free. There's an unpaid subscription option (meaning that you get new writings delivered direct to email) but anybody should be able to access it via home computer or phone. I'm grateful for subscribers, but subscription isn't necessary.

I have had to disable comments on the site for the usual reasons. However, if anybody has any comments or criticism (provided it's reasonably civil) they can reach me here on this board. I also maintain an account on the Endless Harmony board. Some readers have chosen to communicate with me though the Substack site itself (email, basically)

In these times, we all have to be self-promoters, so I'll just say that the writing ("content") is well-researched, well-reasoned and pretty good. I'm confident that serious and dedicated Beach Boys and Brian fans will discover plenty with which to engage and think about (even if readers don't agree with my views)

Thanks, and I hope at least a few Smiley board readers find the time to read some of my stuff and enjoy it. ]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28474.0 Fri, 08 Mar 2024 02:46:13 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28474.msg683871.html#msg683871 <![CDATA[Re: Alternate SMiLE History Attempt]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28304.msg683870.html#msg683870 Quote from: JakeH on August 29, 2023, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: guitarfool2002 on August 29, 2023, 08:46:54 AM

As we both said, the real truth sits somewhere in the middle of all this stuff. And ultimately what happened with Smile cannot be reduced to a few sentences in conclusion. And thank you again for pointing out one of the factors that has the Smile narrative trying to be bent and shaped in recent years.

I think official narratives - for businesses, or institutions - have their purpose, and I don't think I'd be interested in trying to change the official story (to the extent there is one), which would be impossible anyway. However, it might be possible to offer informed, well-reasoned (or well thought-out) analysis for its own sake, to a tiny readership or interested and open-minded fans. Let's see what happens.

I'm resurrecting this comment from last year just for the purpose of following up on what I said above about the possibility of providing new, well-reasoned analysis for its own sake.

I've been trying to do precisely this, actually, for the past few months - since September 2023, I think (?) - on a site called "A Book of Brian". It consists of detailed commentary on the life and career of Brian Wilson, as founded on the information that has so far been made public over the decades as well as my own take on it.

I've been using the Substack platform as a convenient means to get the writing up on the internet. Here is the link:

https://bookofbrian.substack.com

If you don't want to click on it, type: bookofbrian [dot]]>]]
Although the Substack site is designed for paid subscriptions, I have things set up so that all the material is FREE for anybody to read.

I'll start a new thread shortly to offer a few more comments about this project. Thanks

]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28304.0 Fri, 08 Mar 2024 00:39:50 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28304.msg683870.html#msg683870 <![CDATA[Lo: "LANA"~L*O*L?]]>� http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,26640.msg683869.html#msg683869 �--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"LANA", B*: 'S BS/BANAL !]]>� "LANA", L*? NO !! SO ED: I VOW TO DO TWO VIDEOS ON LANA, L*!]]>�

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtB4g_JBPEY]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=26640.0 Thu, 07 Mar 2024 15:25:09 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,26640.msg683869.html#msg683869 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683868.html#msg683868 Quote from: Sam_BFC on March 06, 2024, 02:16:49 PM

Does anyone know if Orange Crate Art 25th Reissue is available to buy or stream digitally?

Yeah the full 25th anniversary version is on Apple Music to stream I Just looked ]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Thu, 07 Mar 2024 14:22:41 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683868.html#msg683868 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683867.html#msg683867 http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Thu, 07 Mar 2024 05:57:06 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683867.html#msg683867 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683866.html#msg683866 Quote from: Sam_BFC on March 06, 2024, 02:16:49 PM

Does anyone know if Orange Crate Art 25th Reissue is available to buy or stream digitally?

I think it's still available at all the usual places. I see it on CD (with free "autorip" download) on Amazon, and it's also available simply to download, and it's also on Spotify to stream. ]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Thu, 07 Mar 2024 03:47:47 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683866.html#msg683866 <![CDATA[Re: Sam C. Phillips/Sun Records - thread]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,22976.msg683865.html#msg683865 Sun Records: Conversation with/ Family & Friends of Sam Phillips

Sun Records played a vital role in the history of rock & roll. Join Sam Phillip's family & friends, Jerry Phillips, Halley Phillips, Peter Guralnick and Ben Vaughn, as they reminisce and tell stories about the iconic record label during this virtual interview with Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Vice President of Education and Visitor Engagement, Jason Hanley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTMS4g6Ze6g

]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=22976.0 Thu, 07 Mar 2024 03:35:56 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,22976.msg683865.html#msg683865 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683864.html#msg683864 http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Wed, 06 Mar 2024 22:16:49 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683864.html#msg683864 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683863.html#msg683863 Quote from: Wirestone on March 05, 2024, 01:38:27 PM

Oddly, the version of What a Wonderful World released on the OCA deluxe edition was different than the previously booted one. No orchestra.

Which may explain how the story developed that he recorded it for Melinda. Perhaps he took the OCA version (same vocals), and removed the electric keyboards and added the orchestration.

I prefer the orchestrated version; the VDP keyboards (or whomever is playing them) on the OCA version are very fake-90s-keyboard sounding, almost a bit like 80s Bruce Johnston keyboard arrangements, one of the few dated elements of the OCA album as a whole despite otherwise being mostly quite timelessly-orchestrated/arranged.

But the OCA version on the deluxe set from a few years ago obviously has much, much better sound quality than the murky orchestrated version that has circulated for years.

I dug the deluxe set with the bonus backing tracks, but I've always wondered why they didn't go with vocals-only rather than instrumental-only, as I think Brian fans would much prefer the vocals. Perhaps VDP wanted to showcase his part in the album more. ]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Wed, 06 Mar 2024 05:23:08 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683863.html#msg683863 <![CDATA[Sail on Sailor Box Set -- Drastic Price Drop!]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28473.msg683862.html#msg683862
You can find it for $44.97 on Amazon!

And I also saw it for $46.99 and $47.00 from a couple of sellers at Walmart.com.

Love and merci,
Dan Lega]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28473.0 Wed, 06 Mar 2024 00:21:16 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28473.msg683862.html#msg683862 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683861.html#msg683861 http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Tue, 05 Mar 2024 21:38:27 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683861.html#msg683861 <![CDATA[Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28354.msg683860.html#msg683860
All that said, I think the real meat of how artificial intelligence technology will be most constructively implemented will be in the more subtle nuances of audio editing. It will probably benefit from making basic mixing, mastering and overall production easier and more efficient. Using the MAL technology we can finally start expecting to hear proper stereo mixes of songs such as "Good Vibrations" whose multitracks have long gone lost. Dae Lims himself put out a darn good fan stereo mix of "The Little Girl I Once Knew" that gives you an idea of what
the technology can do. ]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28354.0 Tue, 05 Mar 2024 20:27:29 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28354.msg683860.html#msg683860 <![CDATA[Re: RIP Melinda Kay Ledbetter Wilson (1946-2024)]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683859.html#msg683859 http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28457.0 Tue, 05 Mar 2024 13:21:04 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28457.msg683859.html#msg683859 <![CDATA[Re: A new Secret BW/Beach Boys Project coming?]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28472.msg683858.html#msg683858
The documentary seems like perhaps it taking longer, than they initially planned to finalize and release, so maybe in for a very special treat. Only thing can find so far that The Beach Boys Documentary maybe released in 2024 on Disney+ and was being directed by Frank Marshall (who is Married to Kathleen Kennedy, who happens to be President of LucasFilm and part of Disney). So they would for sure have access to all the best technology and expertise.

Anyway. Very excited to find out if that little line is true and or what it could be. Will try and keep my expectations low, but it is a very intriguing line and imagination running wild.

]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=28472.0 Tue, 05 Mar 2024 05:30:29 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28472.msg683858.html#msg683858 <![CDATA[Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread]]> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,1990.msg683857.html#msg683857 �� http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=post;topic=1990.0 Tue, 05 Mar 2024 04:36:04 GMT http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,1990.msg683857.html#msg683857