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Rams must answer two questions about their offensive line

2010-02-10T15:55:27Z

The release of Richie Incognito has left the Rams searching for a starting guard.

Colts President Bill Polian pointed to several factors in the Colts' Super Bowl loss to the Saints, one of which was the offensive line. Polian said that, in his opinion, the line didn't play well by their usual standards and were handled too easily by the Saints front seven. Personally, I thought the Colts line was doing alright and seemed to run well early in the game. But I'm not here to talk about the Colts offensive line; I thought this was a nice segue into a conversation about the St. Louis Rams offensive line.

There are two big questions facing Spagnuolo as he and his coaches pencil figure out the starting five and the rest of the roster spots for the o-line.

First and most pressing is the situation at offensive tackle. Jason Smith, last year's first round pick, second overall, was cleared to play prior to week 17 last season. However, because he missed the previous five games with a concussion, he was not ready to play in the season finale. He will start next season, after showing great strides from his camp to his starting duty during the regular season. The question is which side will he start on? That hinges on the fate of Alex Barron.

If the league salary cap is in place for 2010, Barron will be an unrestricted free agent, and many assume that the Rams would part ways rather than pony up big dollars for the penalty prone OT. However, it is increasingly unlikely that there will be no cap in 2010, which means Barron will be a restricted free agent and relatively affordable for the Rams to obtain. And obtaining him makes sense, partly because of the money, but more so, in my opinion, because keeping him one more season gives the Rams one less need to fill during the offseason. We've made the case for this before. Barron's a league average OT, with his penalties being his biggest liability. If he does come back, I would like to see him forced to compete for a starting job...on the right side.

Barron and Smith are both good run blockers, but Barron's occasional lapses outweigh the risk of Smith's sophomore learning curve on the left side. Besides, Smith was drafted to be the left tackle of the future, and there's no better time to start the future than the present. That doesn't mean the coaches shouldn't evaluate their options carefully in camp.

Now, who would Barron compete with for a starting role on the right side? The Rams need to add a solid OT to the roster for next season, at the very least as a backup. I like Goldberg, but I don't think he's adequate as an OT for a long stretch of time. Whether that happens in the draft or free agency remains to be seen. Take a look at this list of free agents, which assumes a no-cap season. Pretty sparse group thanks to the RFA rules. There are a few older veterans available as UFAs, which would be an option for the Rams given the situation with Barron.

Now, about that guard spot, specifically, the right guard spot? NachoD mentioned hot prospect Mike Iupati in his fanpost this a.m., but Iupati looks to be first round pick. However, the Rams have some solid in-house candidates to fill Richie Incognito's old spot. I submit for your consideration Adam Goldberg and John Greco. Goldberg proved himself to be a solid starter during the season while filling in at G. Greco has shown some ability with his few cups of coffee too, though he hasn't had much time to work with the starting OL and form that cohesiveness required of effective OLs. There's also Mark Setterstrom, who will be a RFA as well. Setts has proven himself well in the past. These three are all capable of making for an interesting competition next August. This is probably the best route for the Rams given their vast needs and firm spot among the league's lowest revenue generators.

All told, I think the Rams are in a much better position with regards to their offensive line than they have been for some time. The issue now is finding solid backups, particularly an offensive tackle, and getting the unit together on the field to develop consistency and cohesion.

Random Ramsdom 2/7

2010-02-10T15:26:53Z

Not that much out there today about the Rams; here's just a few tidbits to get you through the morning...

Despite what optimism might be lurking out there in Ramsdom, the Vegas oddsmakers have none in regards to next season's championship hopes.
In case you missed Van's update, Steven Jackson will not be charged with the beating of his ex.
Bryan Burwell on where Jackson can go from here.
Bleacher Report on the Rams 2010 draft needs.

A good Wednesday to all and GO RAMS.

TSTocracy - Feb. 10th

2010-02-10T02:00:37Z

Sgt. 3k checks mock drafts, big boards, updated scouting reports and archived video of 7th round prospects while his squad raids an insurgent stronghold in Iraq. All the insurgents got away, but 3k felt much more comfortable with his knowledge of weakside linebackers in the Sun Belt Conference; senior Army leadership are therefore calling the operation an overwhelming success.

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It's a full-court press on the draft here at TST these days, and I for one love it. Few things make me happier than overanalyzing 7th round picks in my spare time. Still, I know that's not something most people care about. But what is?

I'm still working on my next mock draft, a 2-round expansion of the 1-round mock I dropped at the end of January. Until then, what's the most important discussion to you? Is it needs? Prospects? Statistical wizardry from Van? Weird prospect data from me (Have you heard about the hands on Carlton Mitchell, WR, S. Florida?)? Or are you getting burnt out on the draft already and you need some CBA or general Rams yakking to keep you going? Your civic duty as a Rams fan is to participate in this TSTocracy of ours...

Poll

What subject is most interesting/important/life-changing to you right now?

Charges dropped against Steven Jackson

2010-02-09T22:49:05Z

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Good news for St. Louis Rams running back Steven Jackson. The Las Vegas police department will not pursue the domestic violence charges by the mother of his son, Supriya Harris.

LVPD said there was not enough evidence to pursue the case any further. They talked with Jackson and Harris before making that determination.

This is good news for the Rams too, since having your best player and fan favorite under investigation for domestic violence doesn't do much to help with ticket sales and generating fan interest in the team.

To QB or not to QB

2010-02-09T20:23:44Z

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Can he pull the Rams out of the mud?

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Van just took at look at how the Rams are supposedly passing up franchise QB's recently, an article which pointed to a letter written to Walterfootball.com. I wanted to take a look at their analysis of the God-Child (at least in Walter's eyes) Jimmy Clausen. Do the Rams pull the trigger this year on Sam Bradford or Jimmy Clausen? Do they snag someone on another team?

Walterfootball.com (WF from here on out) is quick to point this out:

The last time QB Dog Killer started a game was 2006. That season, he led the Falcons to a 7-9 record with a 52.6 completion percentage. He wasn't even a good quarterback three seasons ago. The Rams would have to be absolutely insane to trade for him.

His analysis seems sound. Vick was never an amazing (some could even make the argument that he was never a 'good' QB) quarterback. That, however, is besides the point. The Rams as an organization certainly know this and I doubt he would be considered a "long term" option. I think the fact that the Rams are looking at him (or aren't they?) shows that they aren't quite sold about the fact of drafting a QB with the first pick. That doesn't mean they won't ultimately fall in love with one of the prospects, but it certainly doesn't help Jimmy Clausen or Sam Bradford (well, maybe not so much Bradford) in the short term, as the Rams most likely wouldn't trade and draft a QB this year.

But is getting Vick so bad? I don't think he (or Jason Campbell, for that matter) are All-Pro's. Could they work for a year or two? Looking at the rookie stats of the three quarterbacks that were brought up in the recent letter show that they aren't much better then those two options:

Mark Sanchez: 53.8% Completion Percentage, 12 TD's, 20 INT's

Matt Ryan: 61.1% Completion Percentage, 16 TD's, 11 INT's

Jay Cutler: 59.1% Completion Percentage, 9 TD's, 5 INT's (5 games)

Compare those to Vick's last starting season and Campbell last year:

Jason Campbell: 64.5% Completion Percentage, 20 TD's, 15 INT's

Michael Vick: 52.6% Completion Percentage, 20 TD's, 13 INT's

Are those that bad? Surely, Vick wasn't very efficient, but he didn't turn the ball over much more then the rookies did. Jason Campbell was just as good, if not better then any of the players the Rams "should" have drafted. The numbers aren't eye-popping, but then again, the Rams probably aren't going to get eye-popping production from a QB any time soon. Both veterans seem perfectly capable of being a "in-between" guy that guides the team while the Rams find a future QB.

WF goes on to say:

But until the Rams throw away a high draft choice on an unproven guy with a 23-32 career record (Campbell) or a 33-year-old in the final stages of his prime (McNabb), this selection will be Clausen.

Which I'm not even going to talk about because it's an insanely stupid quote. Your making an argument to draft a unproven QB with the first pick and your saying the Rams would be throwing away a pick if they picked up an "unproven" player. Yeah, that's sound reasoning.

Both Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen have had good college careers, and they both are the top two QB's in the draft. But that doesn't mean they are worthy of such a high pick. It also doesn't mean they won't pan out and have a great NFL career. But like some veterans who have played nearly 60 games in the NFL, they are still "unproven" and would likely command much, much more money then Jason Campbell or Michael Vick.

Van pointed out how both Chris Long and Jason Smith have been steadily improving. It's no doubt that the Rams have had troubled drafts in the past, but people who had nothing to do with them shouldn't get blamed, as the e-mail suggests.

The Rams surely have troubles on offense (and defense). Drafting a QB (or picking a veteran instead) isn't a stupid move, but with so many holes, the Rams would be better to pick the best player in the draft, Ndamukong Suh. The Rams are a run first team. Instead of investing money in a rookie QB (who will most likely have very few offensive weapons to work with), the Rams would be much better off if they developed their defense and tried to add, say, a quick, nimble running back (CJ Spiller, I can only dream) and a good pass-catching tight end (Tony Scheffler? Pretty please?) to help a veteran QB like Jason Campbell produce slightly above average numbers, positioning the team for success while grooming a young QB to take over the reigns.

It isn't flashy, it probably isn't what fans want, but it sure is more logical then throwing 70 million dollars to a 22 year old QB and asking him to make miracles with a 1-15 team. That isn't to say the Rams won't do it, because who knows what they will see at the Pro Day's, the Combine or the numerous other slightly creepy evaluation periods.

The most important thing should be finding the best player available, and snagging him, QB or not.

Are the Rams moving Sam Bradford up their draft board?

2010-02-09T19:56:29Z

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Are the Rams getting serious about drafting a QB this spring? If so, a healthy Bradford would be a prime candidate for the second overall pick.

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Here's a little more insight for the discussion of whether or not the St. Louis Rams will be looking to draft a quarterback when Christmas in April arrives.

The issue of the Rams drafting a QB is inextricably linked to the discussion of no-so-consensus first overall pick Ndamukong Suh and the Detroit Lions, who pick behind the Rams at our usual number two spot. This latest information comes from a post centered on the emerging meme of whether or not Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy is a better DT than Suh. Blah, blah, blah...expect lots more of that as the weeks go by. Now, let's get the grist of this post. From a post today at MLive.com, the online outlet for a consortium of Michigan newspapers:

In talking to a couple of well-informed folks from St. Louis last week at the Super Bowl, two interesting points came up.

The first is one that I've been talking about for awhile -- that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, once he proves his injured right shoulder is OK -- could move into that No. 1 spot. The Rams are desperate to replace Marc Bulger, who is not in the team's long-term plans.

That shouldn't be much of a surprise. Last year, Bradford, coming off his Heisman-winning campaign, would have been considered by many the top player available in the draft, certainly the top QB. He's throwing again and is said to be ahead of schedule on rehabbing from his shoulder injury. Bradford will not participate in drills at the Combine, but he is predicted to be ready to go for Pro Day at OU, which should happen sometime in March. Ok, now, back to the Rams and why the idea of drafting a QB isn't such a far out possibility.

The other interesting piece of information was that the Rams had considered drafting USC quarterback Mark Sanchez with the second overall pick last year. The Jets trading up to No. 5 and taking Sanchez was considered a reach so the Rams would've taken plenty of heat for taking Sanchez at No. 2 -- which is why they didn't. But after the rookie performance by Sanchez, it appears the Rams -- who took tackle Jason Smith -- made a mistake.

Remember, the Rams had some offers to trade down; the terms just weren't acceptable enough for GM Billy Devaney to pull the trigger. Supposedly, Devaney made a 2010 first round pick a precondition of any trade at last year's draft. Regardless, we kind of already knew that the Rams were interested in and considered drafting Mark Sanchez last year, but the notion that taking some heat for using the second pick was a reason never entered into the conversation. How much of a concern was it? I'm not surprised that the issue played into their decision, but I still tend to think that ultimately the team realized just how badly they needed to address the offensive line before they invested in another QB.

Either way, I think it's safe to assume that Devaney and his draft cadre will most certainly be seriously considering their options at QB and weighing that against the other options available to them in the draft.

Passing on the future

2010-02-09T16:22:21Z

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Will the St. Louis Rams pass on a QB in this year's draft?

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Alright, the Super Bowl's over and the hype is faded...let's get back to talking draft! Leading off this morning is a thought from a long-suffering fan of the St. Louis Rams, one that surfaced in a letter to the gang over at Walter Football, which they shared in their most recent mock draft. It's focused on the quarterback situation...

Walter, I am very upset by all the draft talk here in St. Louis. It seems like the Rams have already made the selection of Ndamukong Suh and I can't help but feel absolutely helpless and saddened by the whole thing.

We have passed on three franchise quarterbacks in the last four drafts. In 2006, we passed on Jay Cutler, in 2008, we passed on Matt Ryan, and in 2009, we passed on Mark Sanchez. If you look back at those three drafts, each pick we took a so-called safe pick.

In 2006, we took Tye Hill who was supposed to be a frachise shutdown corner with all the physical tools to succeed. In 2008, we opted to take Chris Long who was the for-sure pick of the top players in that draft. He was supposed to be what Suh is going to be, yet he hasn't been. And then comes the 2009 NFL Draft. Sanchez was there, and this team knew they needed a quarterback, yet they took the so-called "safe pick" in Jason Smith who now looks like he may have a severe concussion sydrome that may not allow him to ever live up to his potential.

All three picks were made because the Rams felt they were the safe pick, and all three picks have yet to pan out.

I disagree with a couple things the fan says. First, he overstates Smith's concussion issue. Smith was medically cleared to play at the end of December under the league's strict new rules governing how team's handle players with concussions. He did not play during the last week because he had been sitting out since suffering the concussion in week 11. That's not to say a concussion should be taken lightly and I understand the concern fans have about Smith's status, but he's officially ready to play again. As far as Smith panning out, he proved to be a fast learner and playing well when he was injured, the best tackle on the team for sure, and you could see the difference between Smith and Goldberg filling at on the right side. As far as the decision to choose Smith with the second overall pick, I still think it was the right move, though I might be singing a different song had Stafford still been on the board. The Rams needed a building block offensive tackle. The OL had been the team's crippling weakness for several seasons, and if you don't believe me on that just ask Marc Bulger what happened to his career. Smith was a better pick at the #2 spot, safe or not, than Sanchez, who for some reason seems to be getting way more love than Stafford (wonder if that has anything to do with the teams they play for).

Chris Long is starting to pan out. In fact, he really started to show what he's capable of in the second half of the season, and I think it's reasonable to expect more from him in 2010. That said, it was a pick. The Rams has OT Jake Long on top of their draft board, but Miami scooped him up with the first overall pick. I would have loved to see the Rams draft Matt Ryan, but at that point, Marc Bulger was just one season removed from a career year. He was coming off a bad 2007 season. At that point, however, it was still very reasonable to think that Bulger could still had some mileage left. Ultimately, the decision to not upgrade the OL sooner, helped get us to where we are today. Don't forget about the contract situations then either. That was still the Zygmunt era, and there was no reason to think that the Rams would pay Marc Bulger's hefty contract, in it's second year in 2008, AND the kind of money it would have taken to get a QB with the #2 pick. That would have consumed a plurality of the team's cap. Still, in a more perfect world, Matt Ryan would have been the better choice.

The team's draft decisions in 2006 exemplify the inept management that got the Rams to where they are today. It's still hard to ignore the decision to pass on Cutler. I wonder if the recent statements from Mike Martz about Cutler aren't a little bit of an "I told you so" from the draft room debate back in 2006? (It's just too easy to find the errors in judgement that plagued our drafts. Remember, in 2007 we could have had Darrelle Revis instead of Adam Carriker).

Nevertheless, I can't argue with the fan's frustration at the Rams continually passing on a franchise QB. I'm just not sure how we can justify going forward without a franchise quarterback on board. Maybe that signal caller wouldn't start in 2010, very reasonable to expect that he wouldn't, but he at least needs to be in place, learning the system and ready to take the helm so that the team can start competing as soon as possible. The more I think about it, the more I think that the Rams have to draft a quarterback this year, whether they use the first overall pick or trade down in the draft, the future has to start as soon as possible.

Rams planning roster cuts?

2010-02-08T15:42:05Z

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What sideline will Marc Bulger be watching from in 2010?

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Still basking in your Super Bowl hangover? Well, guzzle some coffee find some greasy food and keep close to the interwebs today because it's the first day that teams can start releasing players. Will the St. Louis Rams release anyone? You can count on a few players getting their walking papers before March 5, but it may not happen today if the coaching staff is still reviewing the current Rams roster.

The bulk of the players released by the Rams aren't likely to earn much more than a shrug. People will be watching closely for what the Rams decide to do with March Bulger. At one point, it seemed like a sure bet that they would release him. Now, with the uncapped season limiting free agent options, I suspect they won't be in any hurry to send Bulger packing until they can get a sense of what they'll do to fill their need at quarterback. If this Michael Vick thing has any legs - and there's really nothing to suggest that it does, at the moment - something will have to happen before March 5.

Other than Bulger, the Rams just don't have many "known" candidates to be cut; Spagnuolo and Devaney cut just about all of the links to the previous regime last year. So the next big question is which free agents they'll try to retain, which includes Leonard Little, James Hall and, yes, even the recently-engaged Kyle Boller.

It will be just as interesting, if not more, to watch who gets their walking papers elsewhere around the league. Torry Holt is done in Jacksonville. The cuts will make the free agent market a little richer, maybe. Stay tuned.

Random Ramsdom: 2/8/2010

2010-02-08T07:37:58Z

Today is the day that we are faced with a sad fact: their will be no more football for quite a while. Luckily, the Saints and Colts sent the league off with a great game. Here is today's news:

Will at Ramsherd finds some parallels between the Saints of now and the Rams of yester-decade.
This one made me laugh...What does Saints CB Tracy Porter say helped him visualize the interception? Studying off of game film.
Oh boy- more Vick to Rams talk, this time from Adam Schefter.
The Rams defensive line won't see much more of a certain familiar blue-jersey opponent.
Mocking The Draft takes a look at a possible draft QB option for the Rams in Jevan Snead.

Enjoy your post-NFL-season Monday everyone!

Super Bowl XLIV open thread

2010-02-07T22:00:32Z

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Tthe official law enforcement badge for Super Bowl XLIV 2010. Is there anything that can't be tied into the Super Bowl?

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I'm typing this while I'm waiting on the hot wings to finish, the first batch anyway. Dips secured. Chips nicely presented in serving tray. Beer, sweet nectar of the gods, on ice.

I don't start tailgating too early because it usually means I miss the game; I'll let you deduce the reasons why. But today's the Super Bowl, so I'm throwing this thread up a little ahead of time...just in case.

Hey, remember when the Rams almost beat the Saints this year? Yeah, that was awesome.

Here's a question to ponder. Why not have the Super Bowl on President's Day weekend? That way, lots of people have the following Monday off. It sure couldn't hurt productivity. If the NFL is going to keep pushing this game back, might as well stretch it out one more weekend.

SBN has an open thread for the game too. At least stop by and force everyone to recall who won this thing ten years ago.

Enjoy the day.

"For Pete's Sake!" Super-Sunday Edition

2010-02-07T17:01:44Z

Hello gang! It's that time again... usually I post on Saturday but I elected to wait until Super Duper Sunday!!! YES it's time to recap the happenings here at TST. There wa s A LOT going on this week, from talks about a lock out in 2011, to Michael Vick, to the draft. It seems TST has been busier NOW than when we were actually playing games!

Note to EVERYONE here at TST... from the bottom of my weak heart (from all the Ram beatings as of late) I have to say I truly love this community, and without TST I'd go totally flippin' crazy during the week. I find myself wondering how I survived as a Rams fan without it! THANK YOU ALL... LONG LIVE TST

Billy Devany (Rams GM) Interview

This was an interesting post HetField72. Let me first point out that this has to be the most I've ever heard of anyone remembering in my entire life... yes this was recalled from hearing a radio interview.. I'm impressed!

One thing Devaney said that had me thinking. He said he is a "Bulger Fan". Is this a hint that Marc may be back under center for us as starter next year? It isn't out of the realm of possibility. Think about it. How many QB's are you super impressed with in this draft class? Yes there are some who will make good NFL quarterbacks, but with us being in the #1 slot, Suh there, our D-Line needing MASSIVE help, it is totally possible that we may ignore QB needs and go with Bulger, Null and Boller. Don't throw tomatoes, i'm just sayin'. Enjoy the read.

the rams must draft Jimmy Clausen

Are you in the Clausen camp? If you are you'll find some interesting tidbits posted by batteringram39 who is willing to bet his house that Clausen will be a star in the NFL. Honestly, if I had to pick one QB, Clausen would not be a disappointment to me if he had on a Rams jersey next year. Let's face it, as pathetic as we were on offense last year, if we started almost anybody but Boller, Null and Bulger I think TST would be very happy (for the most part anyway). Enjoy.

Manufacturing controversy

VanRam posted something interesting yesterday. As much as I respect Jack Youngblood, I think he went way overboard when talking about how Chris Long is a disappointment. Yes I don't need to be reminded of how I was leading the charge around week 8 about how Long is struggling and not performing like a #2 overall pick. BUT you can't ignore his turnaround. You also can't ignore the fact that if we get Suh, our D-Line will be a nightmare to opposing offenses next year. I am predicting Long will have between 10-15 sacks next year. bank on it. Enjoy the read

NFL Draft Prospects: QB

OK this post was outstanding by stlcardsfan4. Curious on what QB's did what and who is available? This post is the answer to your prayers. Very insightful and totally opened my eyes to tons of QB's that, quite frankly, I had never heard of. Enjoy the read.
Rams favorites to sign Vick?

How many think we should sign Vick and call it a day? Honestly I'm still on the fence about this, although if we signed Vick it certainly would clear the air about who we're drafting I would think. To me Vick is no more than a short term answer (maybe at that) to a long term problem. I admit Bulger has given us SOME good games, but let's be freakin' real here... we haven't had a quality QB since Warner left. It's time to get a long term solution. I'm sick of the Boller's and Green's...

Special Message For Devaney: Get us a franchise QB but not at the expense of missing out on Suh, OK? Please?

The harsh reality of a life without the CBA

Interesting post by Whatoffseason? ends with a poll. I voted yes. I'm addicted, what can I say? Must read, enjoy.

I want to conclude with my thoughts on the potential lockout. I've heard from many that it is almost certain to happen. All I can say is, DAMN... DAMNIT and CRAP. I know I speak for everyone here when I say that if it weren't for the Rams, and more specifically, the NFL we'd all go crazy.

Football to me is a way for me to escape from the daily grind and actually be a part of something... be part of a TEAM. All of us here at TST are as close to a team as I'll ever get. I had aspirations of being a pro football player, but 2 herniated discs and a blown out knee sealed the deal for me in high school.

Now I can still dream right? Let's all hope an agreement is made, and an agreement that improves the game, not dismantles it.

Love y'all... let's stay positive and GO RAMS

Random Ramsdom, 2/7: Super Bowl edition

2010-02-07T13:38:49Z

Just because it's a day filled with championship football doesn't mean we can't talk about the St. Louis Rams a little bit, huh? Random Ramsdom...Super Bowl edition!

Too early to decide - Spags and Devaney talk quarterbacks and left tackles from Florida.

2010 NFL Free Agents - Quarterbacks - Want to read something depressing? How about a list of free agent QBs.

Jevan Snead NFL Draft scouting report - Snead was one to watch when the season began, remember that? Now, some QB coach will have to put in overtime with him at the next level.

Championship rings prized hidden treasures - Did you know that Georgia Frontiere's Super Bowl ring was made to fit over two fingers? Huh.

Manufacturing controversy

2010-02-06T19:22:18Z

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Some people think you can never have enough coaches and mentors.

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I understand that newspapers have to do everything they can to save their bacon. Don't hate the game and all that. What annoys me is when columnists, especially columnists with national reputations, use their perch to gin up bogus controversy such as Bernie Miklasz is trying to do with the issue of the St. Louis Rams and the team's retired greats.

Miklasz took a break recently from propagating the Michael Vick speculation (more on that minute) to talk about the Rams interior decorating decisions at Rams Park and team mentoring issues. The first salvo (actually I think this started on talk radio, exactly, before this) came in comments from HOF defensive end Jack Youngblood who chastised team leadership for not using the franchise's all-time greats to help mentor the young players on the team, specifically Chris Long. Here's Youngblood:

The part that I would like to see is for somebody to teach Chris [Long] how to play defensive end. There’s a whole lot of pretty good talent on the alumni side of the Rams that have been totally unused. Why wouldn’t you use them?

Did he not see the strides Chris Long made as the season went along? Long finally played up to his draft position. He collected all five of his sacks in the last half of the season, and displayed the kind of skill we had previously seen only in bits and pieces. It was enough of a display to give the Rams some real hope along the DL, if they can add some players to bolster the rest of that unit.

As far as having long-time veterans around to help out with the young guys, that can be a potential problem and a distraction for a group of rookie coaches trying to implement their DNA on a group of young players. This kind of stuff isn't just limited to the football field, it happens in office parks across America. The real threat isn't that the cagey vets might teach from a different script, the problem becomes one of authority as youngsters start looking to them as alternatives to the coaches. I'm not saying that has to happen, but it certainly can happen. Why would a newly minted head coach in a tough situation take that risk? Would you? Spagnuolo et al turned to the veterans on the roster, e.g. Steven Jackson, to impart leadership and serve in that sergeants' capacity of imparting their wisdom and experience from the front-line perspective. Just think about it on the personal level. Do you appreciate the people who used to work in your office telling people how to do your job? You can see why this kind of crap is more trouble than it's worth for a head coach. Here's a very level-headed assessment of why this can be a complication as much as a helping hand from Devaney:

Sometimes you get too much information. You get overload. And we’ve had a number of coaches pass through here. Donnie Avery is going into his third year. He’s on his third position coach. There’s a lot of cases like that where the intention is great and we embrace everything that the player stood for, and we recognize that. But sometimes it also can be too much, it can have a negative effect on somebody.

How many people has Marc Bulger had in his ear the past three years? Coordinators, quarterback coaches, head coaches. A lot of these guys just need to settle down in the same system and I think they’ll be better off for it.

Miklasz has made nothing into something when it comes to this issue of the Rams new regime not respecting the team's history. Much of it stemming, I wonder, from the ire he has expressed for the Rams' decision to limit media access, something he went toe-to-toe with Cardinals manager Tony La Russa for in the past as well. Miklasz hasn't been the only one to pick at this issue, local talk radio has eagerly inserted itself into the conversation as well.

The issue takes another angle in the since refuted argument that the team had removed pictures of veteran players hanging on the walls at Rams Park. Marshall Faulk talked about that recently, and Devaney and Spagnuolo have both countered the charges. I love Marshall Faulk, but it's not his place to tell the new Rams coaching staff how to decorate their facility or how to run the team. Of course, it turned out that the coaches were not removing the photos. Be sure to visit the links above for the perfectly reasonable explanation of Picture-Gate.

Ginning up controversy is one thing, but cranking out rumors is something else all together. Bernie adds more grist to the rumor mill today by attempting to read between the lines of this "mysterious" quote from Spagnuolo about Michael Vick:

I’ve got a lot of respect for Michael as a player. Everything I’ve heard out of Philadelphia is kind of good. We haven’t gone down that road in our process yet. I think he’s a terrific player.

Spags gets asked a question about Vick and the Rams; whatever answer he gives, including no comment, leaves a wide berth for speculation. Ridiculous. Of course the Rams would do their due diligence on Vick...and any other realistic QB possibility. Bloggers get hammered for this kind of irresponsible speculation, usually it's the dinosaurs of the traditional media doing most of the attacking too.

Miklasz is the head cheerleader for the Rams to bring in Michael Vick right now, and he'll be the first guy ready to eviscerate Vick the minute the same guy who has a 53.7 percent career completion rate shows up in a game. Same thing happened with Spagnuolo and Incognito. He expressed approval for the decision to give Cogs one more chance after his penalty-filled season opener, and then took Spagnuolo to task, calling him "weak," in the wake of Incognito's outburst against the Titans that got him released from the team.

Of course, maybe they can be forgiven, they've got to find some way to talk about the Rams.

NFL Draft Prospects: QB

2010-02-06T02:04:31Z

The following are the QB prospects as rated by myself basing it off my eye and other scouting reports. I couldn't find a real good media outlet that has done this already so I'm doing the honors myself. It's complete with reasoning for why he does and doesn't belong in the NFL, their projected round placement, and their "upside" (for the first ten QBs)

I will be doing a weekly featuring with QBs this week, RBs next week, all that will perfectly place themselves the week before the NFL Draft. So get to know the prospects that we could pick before we draft them rather than you find yourself scratching your head saying, "What the hell?" (In other words, every 6th, 7th rounder)

1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma Sooners

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Why He Belongs Here: He had a terrific sophomore season, but chose to bypass the NFL Draft in the hopes of a BCS Championship. He has tremendous accuracy throwing for 69.5% in 2007 and 67.9% in 2008. He averages 5.5 TDs before he threw an interception in his Oklahoma career.

Why He Doesnt: Injury concerns (played in three games, one full one in 2009), has a ton of weapons he won't get in the NFL, he was sacked 25 times in three years (he'll likely get sacked that much in one year in NFL)

Upside - I won't be surprised if he's a bust given his great talent around him at Oklahoma, but I certainly won't be surprised if he's a 3 time Pro Bowler either.... hence his upside

Projected Pick: Top Ten

The next 26 QBs are after the jump.

2. Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame Fighting Irish

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Why He Belongs Here: He was sacked 80 times in his career so you know he can take a hit, had a 68% CP in his junior year, improved in every stat this year signaling he's figured it out (3172 yards to 3722; 25 TDs to28; 17 INTs to 4; QB rating of 132.49 to 161.43)

Why He Doesn't: Despite those statistic s, his team went just 6-6 questioning how much of a difference he made to what was assumed to be a talented team, went 16-21 as a starter, has a cocky attitude (somewhat unwarranted), less than ideal size at 6'2

Upside - Given his stats, he could be great and it depends on whether that cocky attitude can become Phillip Rivers or not

Projected Pick: Top Ten

3. Tony Pike, Cincinnati Bearcats

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Why He Belongs Here: He's got more than ideal NFL size at 6'6, 225, led Cincinnati team to the Sugar Bowl, could pick up NFL offense easy with his intelligence, very adept at moving in the pocket (something Rams desperately need)

Why he Doesn't: He didn't face elite competition and when he did.... Sugar Bowl 2010, doesn't have a particularly strong arm, was inconsistent throughout his tenure at Cincinnati

Upside - Tons especially considering he's projected a second round pick... bust here and it won't hurt u as much as a 1st round pick

Projected Pick: 2nd round

4. Dan Lefevour, Central Michigan Chippewas

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Why He Belongs: Think Tebow, with NFL size (6'3, 225), right-handed (teams prepare assuming this), and a better passer (69.7%), He accumulated better stats in his four years than Tebow, a playmaker with his legs (737 per year, 47 TDs) and arm (3,226 per year, 102 TDs)
Why He Doesn't: He plays in Michigan and it isn't Ann Arbor, doesn't have a strong arm, he'll need more seasoning to adjust to the competition

Upside: Honestly, pretty high, it all depends on how he adjusts to the competition, but he made plays in CM

Projected Pick: 2nd round

5. Colt McCoy, Texas Longhorns

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Why He Belongs: He's a winner with the most wins ever by a QB in college football, has extremely good accuracy with 70% CP and 76% CP the past two seasons, is 3-1 in bowl games and the one loss stems from a 1st quarter injury

Why He Doesn't: He doesn't have a strong arm, he may have played with too many good weapons that pad his stats

Upside: Despite that one weakness, his upside isn't thought to be too great

Projected Pick: 2nd round

6. Jevan Snead, Ole Miss Rebels

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Why He Belongs Here: He has a quick release, and a strong arm (something lacking in most of the other QBs), very good pocket awareness, he is a mobile QB who will run if necessary, ideal size at 6'4

Why He Doesn't: He was not consistent during the season, he transferred from Texas after losing job out to Colt McCoy, unlike McCoy has a lack of experience of only two years, very poor accuracy with 54.4%

Upside: With him completing no more than 56% of his passes in college, why would that change in NFL... upside is in arm strength and size

Projected Pick: 2-3 rounds

7. Tim Tebow, Florida Gators

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Why He Belongs Here: he's focused as anyone (just look at "The Speech" last year), got as about as good character as you can get, extremely consistent, threw just 16 INTs in 4 years, scored 145 TDs in college, a fall-back option is TE or fullback

Why He Doesn't: That fall-back option wouldn't be a good thing and he actually projects better as a fullback or TE (aka not worthy of the pick he'd get), he's lefthanded (harsh, but only Mike Vick has really suceeded with it), uncomfortable behind center (fumbled 3 straight during Senior Bowl practice)

Upside: Limited given the fact that he NEEDs to know how to receive snaps under center, and is still learning what comes simply to a lot of QBs

Projected Pick: 3rd round

8. Jarrett Brown, West Virginia Mountaineers

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Why He Belongs Here: Has excellent size for a QB at 6'4, 225, he had a decent 63.2% that NFL teams can work with, is a threat on the ground with 452 yards rushing and 6 TDs

Why He Doesn't: Very inexperienced starting just one year, threw 11 TDs with 9 picks,

Upside: He has tremendous upside because of his potential to grow, but he hasn't shown enough to warrant a high pick

Projected Pick: 4th round

9. Bill Stull, Pittsburgh Panthers

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Why He Belongs Here: he played in a pro-style offense meaning easy transition, 65.1% shows he has good accuracy, 21 TDs to 8 INTs

Why he Doesn't: He had little pressure as he was the second option on the offense, he played against Big East competition, which is not the strongest

Upside: NFL Starter potential, but I don't think he looks like a potential star, just solid starter
Projected Pick: 3-4 rounds

10. Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State Cowboys

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Why He Belongs: best QB in the Senior Bowl who seemed to have complete control over offense, enjoyed prolific success at Oklahoma State, 3 year starter

Why he doesn't: 6'2 isn't ideal NFL QB, he struggled without top flight wideout Dez Bryant throwing 59% with 15 TDs and 12 INTs in games he missed
Upside: He has some upside as an NFL Starter but nothing too exciting
Projected Pick: 3-4 rounds

11. Sean Canfield, Oregon State Beavers
Summary: completed 67.9% of his passes, put OSU right next to USC in past seasons, but his upside consists as a backup
Projected Pick: 4-5 rounds

12. Jonathon Crompton, Tennessee Volunteers
Summary: Showed much improvement when he was with a good coaching staff, but the 58% is trouble; 6'4, 225 QB size will keep him high
Projected Pick: 4-5 rounds

13. Max Hall, BYU Cougars
Summary: Had outstanding success with the Cougars but is only 6'1 and therefore will get low status
Projected Pick: 5th round

14. Ryan Perrilloux, Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Summary: Troubled former blue-chip QB had great success in I-AA, but managed to complete just 58.9% of his passes
Projected Pick: 5-6 round

15. Joe Webb, UAB Blazers
Summary: The lesser man's Pat White, but with better height and less passing ability; 1,421 rushing yards
Projected Pick: 6th round

16. John Skelton, Fordham Flash
Summary: A I-AA player who has great size at 6'5 and is likely invited for that reason
Projected Pick: 6th-7th round

17. Mike Kafka, Northwestern Wildcats
Summary: His unimpressive record and unimpressive 16 TDs to 12 INTs might make him go undrafted
Projected Pick: 7th round

18. Levi Brown, Troy Trojans
Summary: He is 6'4 and threw for 64.5%, but his college offense drastically differs from any NFL offense
Projected Pick: 7th round

19. Tim Hiller, Western Michigan Broncos
Summary: After a strong junior season that had potential for Day 1, he dissapointed with poor results in 2009
Projected Pick: 7th round

20. Rusty Smith, Florida Atlantic Owls
Summary: Solid TD-INT ratio and yard totals, but his poor completion percentage and bad competition ruins his 6'5 size
Projected Pick: undrafted

21. Darryl Clark, Penn State Nittany Lions
Summary: Has less than ideal size at 6'2, but had success in Penn State in a offense that doesn't relate to NFL
Projected Pick: undrafted

22. Chris Turner, Maryland Terrapins
Summary: He barely played in college but shows good mechanics and size
Projected Pick: Undrafted

23. Thaddues Lewis, Duke Blue Devils
Summary: His stats were ok, but his offense doesn't translate to the NFL (reccurring theme?)
Projected Pick: undrafted

24. Matt Nichols, Eastern Washington Eagles
Summary: 3,744 yards, 34 TDs, 9 INTs for his his 2009 season against I-AA and he's only 6'2, but he'll likely get a look
Projected Pick: Undrafted

25. Riley Skinner (Wake Forest Demon Deacons), Joe Cox (Geogia Bulldogs), Juice Williams (Illinois Fighting Illini)
Summary: Skinner for mediocre success and 6'1 size, Cox for 55.7% CP, and Williams because of his college offense
Projected Picks: undrafted

The QBs consist of with powerhouse school QBs in McCoy, Clausen, and Bradford, the trifecta of Washington QBs (Eastern, Central, Western), a plethora of successful college QBs with low draft stock (Tebow, Hall, Clark, Robinson, Snead), and a couple I-AA talents.

That's every single QB who is eligible for the draft. On average for the past four drafts, 12 QBs were taken in the NFL Draft so my projected picks are probably a little bit off.

Billy Devany (Rams GM) Interview

2010-02-05T16:12:04Z

I was just driving into work and I heard a short little interview with Bill Devany, the Rams General Manager, on Sirius NFL radio. I thought I would just post some of the things he mentioned for everyone's information. Nothing too groundbreaking or revealing, but a few interesting tidbits.

When asked what his reaction was to Kurt Warner retiring in Arizona, he said it was "Thank God!"...which, as the announcer pointed out, is what Kurt would probably say himself. He said it wasn't a slap in the face to Leinart, but he also said it does make you wonder if their success the last few years can continue without an all-pro like Kurt.
They asked about Bulger and our QB situation. Devany said that he is a "Bulger fan", but that Marc has been in a bad situation the last few years with a weak/injured O-line and not a lot of talent around him. Devany said that he feels like if Bulger has the right help around him, he has shown he can be successful. To follow up, he was asked if that meant we were sticking with Bulger. He said that it hadn't been decided and what they are doing is looking at free agents and seeing if any of the QBs in the draft are worth the #1 overall pick (to get a starter). He did mention that right now the QB free agent market is not looking all that great. He said that because you are looking for a starter, it would be difficult to find that in free agency. He didn't mention later round QBs.
Speaking of the #1 overall pick, Devany was asked about drafting a QB at that spot. He just said that you really need to make sure that this guy is going to be "the guy" for the franchise because of the money and expectations that go with that pick. He also said that we are considering a lot of positions in the draft because of all of our needs so we aren't forced into grabbing a QB.
When asked about the O-line he said that he feels like we are finally starting to get it solidified and that they guys we had before injuries were getting the job done. (I'm not sure if he was talking pre- or post-Incognito)
When asked about whether the Rams are looking at Suh, Devany said yes. He was asked if he thinks Suh can be a difference maker at the next level, and he said that he felt that he really would be. But he also said that you also need to look at McCoy out of Oklahoma. He said you need to ask, Is he as good as Suh? Is he not that far away in terms of talent? He said those are the kind of things you have to know if you decide to trade down, but want a DT.
When asked about trading down he said that he is always a proponent of that. He said that we have so many needs, that one guy at #1 overall is not going to instantly make us better. We need a lot of help and more picks is a good way to get it.
When asked about how tough the season was he said that it was pretty frustrating. He said that he and Spags would sit in the Coach's room and look at the 45-man game day roster and that 30 of the people on it were 6th round, 7th round, and undrafted players. He said that at times the coach's felt like they had one hand tied behind their back because we just didn't have enough talent some places.
When asked what his impression of Spags first year was he said that he was impressed with how he carried himself. He said that of course he got frustrated and was upset that we weren't winning, but he always kept a level head and didn't make any drastic changes. He said that they both believe in what they are doing and they just need to "stay the course".
When asked about the ownership situation he said that he describes it as "crowd noise". It is there, but it doesn't really impact what they are doing day to day as coaches.

That's all I remember off the top of my head. I wish I could link the audio, but I don't think it is anywhere on the web. Anyways, happy Friday everyone and enjoy the Superbowl.

Random Ramsdom, 2/5: Lockout likely?

2010-02-05T12:50:47Z

Is there a game this weekend? Oh, wait. Funny enough, to me, this seems like the first Super Bowl in a long time where the "other" football conversations, i.e. the draft, CBA, etc., have received just as much attention as the game itself. Of course, I think much of that has to do with how we consume information now that technology allows us to filter out the subjects of less interest, to some extent, and focus on what we do want to listen to. Is that a good or bad thing? On to the news I deem important!

Turley: Martz a better coordinator than head coach - Something that should come as no surprise to Rams fans.

Rams sale rumors impacting CFL - The Toronto Argo react to the rumors of a the Toronto connected bidder for the Rams. The article also says a move to Toronto is "unlikely."

Kansas City Politician Files Bill To Reverse NFL Blackout Policy - Just when you think politicians can't do anything right, a state-level David aims his slingshot at the NFL.

Kiss the cap goodbye forever? - NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith said in his news conference yesterday that once the league and the players experience life without the salary cap, it will be "virtually impossible" to return to life with a cap. That's not good, as it would destroy competitiveness and, thus, profits in the league.

Smith says lockout likely - More from Smith's presser yesterday: it's 75 percent negotiating bluster, but Smith also said that a lockout in 2011 is almost certain. I'm going to be talking about the CBA situation much more; it's starting to get interesting.

Brandon Marshall saga continues - To trade or not to trade? Is there really any point trying to read the tea leaves at this point in the game?

The beginning of the Braford tsunami? (ESPN Insider)

2010-02-05T01:21:37Z

The beginning of the Braford tsunami? (ESPN Insider)

Mel Kiper just moved Sam Bradford ahead of Jimmy Clausen on his big board. Bradford went from #5 to #4 and Clausen dropped from 4th to 7th. Kiper says, "Based on what I'm hearing regarding the health of his shoulder, I've moved Sam Bradford ahead of Jimmy Clausen. That's not a huge surprise, because I've been saying it since Bradford was hurt -- this is a guy who was a potential No. 1 pick last year, and a physical issue that, from all indications, simply won't detract at all from what Bradford can do."

Random Ramsdom: 2/4/2010 Lunchtime Edition

2010-02-04T18:31:44Z

I hoped everyone enjoyed their respective mornings. Luckily you didn't have any tests (like myself). If you haven't been on the site for a few days, their is actually some news that you should read:

As reported below by VanRam, the Rams are favorites to land Vick. Speaking of that, Matt Mosley has his own version; the version where the Rams are being duped.
There is a he say, she say tug of war going on whether or not another St. Louis group is trying to buy the Rams. Van is on fire today and also analyzes this below. I'd trust most people over Bernie (mainly because he thinks that a 63.0 Rated QB led a 9-7 team that was built to win a year before to the playoffs- but that's just me).
As for WR help, Antonio Bryant might be available. Yay or Nay?
Having a superbowl party? Why not get Barry Sanders to come?
Mike Sando revisits the passing of Rey Maualuga.
If you don't like Jay Cutler, you'll enjoy reading this. (It's a little dose of advice from Marshall Faulk).
Mocking the draft has a scouting report for everyone's favorite 2nd round RB choice, Jahvid Best.
Finally, I'll leave you with the fact that anyone can come together to be friends. Espicially if they are named T.O. and Donovan McNabb.

Enjoy!

Rams favorites to sign Vick?

2010-02-04T15:02:04Z

As if whispers about the bidders in the pending sale of the St. Louis Rams weren't enough to fire your imagination, then another Michael Vick rumor ought to get your synapses firing on all cylinders. A report from Jason LaCanfora on the NFL Network yesterday said that the Rams were the favorites to land Michael Vick.

This won't be the last Vick rumor to surface. Just yesterday there was a report from the NFL Network's Michael Lombardi that the Eagles would like to hang on to Vick. That seems more like posturing as the team tries to gin up some trade interest before they have to pay him $5 million on March 5. What LaCanfora's report does not say is how the Rams would be most likely to acquire Vick, via trade or as a free agent. I would hope that GM Billy Devaney goes the later route, using some of the freed up "dead money" from last year's roster purge to sign Vick rather than trade any of the Rams precious few assets, players or picks, for a guy who hasn't thrown more than two regular season passes since 2006...when he had a 52.6 percent completion rate, lower than Bulger's in 2009.

There's more QB news that might have implications for the Rams. Pending free agent Chad Pennington has stated a preference to return to the Dolphins, even as a backup. Pennington would be one of the few free agent QBs if the league goes without a cap in 2010. He's another guy that if the Rams made a move for would require them to have a real solid backup option given Pennington's injury history. Frankly, I'll pass.

Is there a lead horse in the race to buy the Rams?

2010-02-04T14:47:05Z

More photos » James A. Finley - AP

St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts and a group of investors are making a bid to buy the Rams, but they may not have the cash.

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There's some big news about the sale of the St. Louis Rams floating around the wires today. First, the name of the third buyer, i.e. not Checketts or the Toronto-connected group, has emerged. Dr. Richard A. Chaifetz, a St. Louis U grad and owner of the CommPsych, has reportedly offered $725 million for a 100% ownership stake in the franchise. That makes him, according to the report, the leading bidder for the Rams. Of course, that ups the ante on Stan Kroenke's decision. Kroenke has to approve any offer on the Rosenbloom's share of the team, and weigh the costs of selling his 40% share under the terms of this offer. The good news about Chaifetz, for St. Louis peeps anyway, is that he sounds committed to keeping the team in St. Louis.

Bernie Miklasz says Chaifetz is NOT a potential buyer for the Rams. Considering Chaifetz' name first surfaced in the St. Louis Globe-Democrat, you have to wonder how much of it's tug-of-war over a scoop. Newspapers are dying, or so I've heard.

One of the factors that might be making Chaifetz a leading bidder is this report, that Dave Checketts does not have the cash to purchase the team. It's not known whether or not his group is looking at the Rosenbloom's 60% share or the entire team. That seems fishy since the PD's Bernie Miklasz reported Checketts had brought Texas billionaire Gerald J. Ford (no relation?) into the mix with his group. If Checketts does not have the cash, then Ford's commitment might not be all that strong. Does Checketts have the cash or not? How can he not have the money yet made it this far into the process? Wasn't his offer vetted to some extent?

Stay tuned.

Turf Show Times

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Random Ramsdom 2/7

TSTocracy - Feb. 10th

What subject is most interesting/important/life-changing to you right now?

Charges dropped against Steven Jackson

To QB or not to QB

Are the Rams moving Sam Bradford up their draft board?

Passing on the future

Rams planning roster cuts?

Random Ramsdom: 2/8/2010

Super Bowl XLIV open thread

"For Pete's Sake!" Super-Sunday Edition

Random Ramsdom, 2/7: Super Bowl edition

Manufacturing controversy

NFL Draft Prospects: QB

1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma Sooners

2. Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame Fighting Irish

3. Tony Pike, Cincinnati Bearcats

4. Dan Lefevour, Central Michigan Chippewas

5. Colt McCoy, Texas Longhorns

6. Jevan Snead, Ole Miss Rebels

7. Tim Tebow, Florida Gators

8. Jarrett Brown, West Virginia Mountaineers

9. Bill Stull, Pittsburgh Panthers

10. Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State Cowboys

Which QB, if any, will the St. Louis Rams select?

Billy Devany (Rams GM) Interview

Random Ramsdom, 2/5: Lockout likely?

The beginning of the Braford tsunami? (ESPN Insider)

The beginning of the Braford tsunami? (ESPN Insider)

Random Ramsdom: 2/4/2010 Lunchtime Edition

Rams favorites to sign Vick?

Is there a lead horse in the race to buy the Rams?