The Symphony Blog | CommentsAll the latest Lotus Symphony news from Stuart McIntyrehttp://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/en-usTue, 5 May 2009 07:46:08 +0100 Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 ODF interoperability is a FAIL! Tue, 5 May 2009 07:46:08 +0100 Stuart McIntyre - Symphony Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 ODF interoperability is a FAIL! here is a slightly more positive view on the new ODF compatibility:
Microsoft has opened the ODF door and will be pressured on better interoperability, so even my inner cynic has a hard time imagining interoperability will not improve. With Office 2007 SP2 and Wordpad in Windows 7 supporting ODF, the future looks bright for OpenDocument Format. Has Microsoft turned a new leaf? Microsoft's recent investments in ODF, PDF, and web standards (in Internet Explorer 8) are probably more a function of government regulation or business demand than corporate goodwill. Backed into a corner or otherwise, Microsoft has done the right thing, but further work is necessary before the general public can use ODF transparently in Office.
However, in the same post the author points out the inconsistencies in Office 2007 SP2 when rendering the ODF Reference Document (which you would have thought MS would have tested against, right?):
To evaluate the quality, I opened the reference document ODF_text_reference_v3.odt in Word 2007. Overall the conversion was respectable for what is essentially a version 1.0 release for Microsoft Office. The bugs I noticed were:

* Tracked changes were missing.

* The second level of an ordered list was indented like first level (that is, it was not intended correctly).

* An inline image was out of place.

* One active hyperlink was neither blue nor underlined (though another hyperlink is fine).

* All form controls were missing.

* Not exactly a format bug, but Word 2007 considers "OpenDocument" misspelled though "WordPerfect" is recognized.
]]> here is a slightly more positive view on the new ODF compatibility:
Microsoft has opened the ODF door and will be pressured on better interoperability, so even my inner cynic has a hard time imagining interoperability will not improve. With Office 2007 SP2 and Wordpad in Windows 7 supporting ODF, the future looks bright for OpenDocument Format. Has Microsoft turned a new leaf? Microsoft's recent investments in ODF, PDF, and web standards (in Internet Explorer 8) are probably more a function of government regulation or business demand than corporate goodwill. Backed into a corner or otherwise, Microsoft has done the right thing, but further work is necessary before the general public can use ODF transparently in Office.
However, in the same post the author points out the inconsistencies in Office 2007 SP2 when rendering the ODF Reference Document (which you would have thought MS would have tested against, right?):
To evaluate the quality, I opened the reference document ODF_text_reference_v3.odt in Word 2007. Overall the conversion was respectable for what is essentially a version 1.0 release for Microsoft Office. The bugs I noticed were:

* Tracked changes were missing.

* The second level of an ordered list was indented like first level (that is, it was not intended correctly).

* An inline image was out of place.

* One active hyperlink was neither blue nor underlined (though another hyperlink is fine).

* All form controls were missing.

* Not exactly a format bug, but Word 2007 considers "OpenDocument" misspelled though "WordPerfect" is recognized.
]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/sy0sgDq-GpI/microsoft-office-2007-sp2-odf-interoperability-is-a-fail http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/microsoft-office-2007-sp2-odf-interoperability-is-a-fail?opendocument&comments#05052009074608SMI9XX.htm Carl Tyler Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:42:49 PM +0100 Carl Tyler New Archos 10 netbook shipping with Lotus Symphony ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/u1LMzWweQhQ/new-archos-10-netbook-shipping-with-lotus-symphony http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/new-archos-10-netbook-shipping-with-lotus-symphony?opendocument&comments#01142009104249PMBLOUMT.htm Forgot to mention ... Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:22:53 PM +0100 Lars Olufsen New Archos 10 netbook shipping with Lotus Symphony
It even runs fine with the Notes client running at the same time.

And it runs almost just as fine while the Domino server is running too.

Hot package!]]>
It even runs fine with the Notes client running at the same time.

And it runs almost just as fine while the Domino server is running too.

Hot package!]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/z2IIYzbTJls/new-archos-10-netbook-shipping-with-lotus-symphony http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/new-archos-10-netbook-shipping-with-lotus-symphony?opendocument&comments#14-01-2009212253BLOT3U.htm Untitled Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:18:42 PM +0100 Lars Olufsen New Archos 10 netbook shipping with Lotus Symphony
Safe, extendable, pretty as sin.

Breaking news: Hell freezing ;-)]]>
Safe, extendable, pretty as sin.

Breaking news: Hell freezing ;-)]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/Ih5-7tFIKq0/new-archos-10-netbook-shipping-with-lotus-symphony http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/new-archos-10-netbook-shipping-with-lotus-symphony?opendocument&comments#14-01-2009211842BLOSZ9.htm You’re right Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:21:20 AM +0100 Stuart McIntyre Lotus Symphony 1.2 beta for Mac
You might want to report it via the forums at { Link }

Thanks for your kind comments anyway - glad you're enjoying the Symphony experience.]]>
You might want to report it via the forums at { Link }

Thanks for your kind comments anyway - glad you're enjoying the Symphony experience.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/1UWYvD7d_7Y/lotus-symphony-1.2-beta-for-mac http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/lotus-symphony-1.2-beta-for-mac?opendocument&comments#12122008112120AMBLOFBV.htm Text Properties Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:04:56 AM +0100 Robert Guthrie Lotus Symphony 1.2 beta for Mac
Text Properties: I cannot change the size of the window in 'float' mode. The standard method of dragging the bottom right corner of the window in mac os x has no effect. Am I missing something? Or, is there a kink?

Great App, though!]]>
Text Properties: I cannot change the size of the window in 'float' mode. The standard method of dragging the bottom right corner of the window in mac os x has no effect. Am I missing something? Or, is there a kink?

Great App, though!]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/rpPB6eIsU1Q/lotus-symphony-1.2-beta-for-mac http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/lotus-symphony-1.2-beta-for-mac?opendocument&comments#12122008050456AMBLO7YM.htm What about pivot table? Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:38:28 AM +0100 Rodrigo Borges Lotus Symphony futures ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/BslcGNe_WwY/lotus-symphony-futures http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/lotus-symphony-futures?opendocument&comments#11062008113828AMBLOFNL.htm Untitled Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:04:41 PM +0100 Dvir Reznik IBM now has 140,000 users on Lotus Symphony
I think there's a problem with your comments - who's 'The Liberator' and why he appears 7/8 times?

Second, I also posted on the story (linking to your story of course, and Chris's one), which started a discussion with MS Guy on 'why there's no 100% adoption at IBM', for Notes and Symphony: { Link }]]>
I think there's a problem with your comments - who's 'The Liberator' and why he appears 7/8 times?

Second, I also posted on the story (linking to your story of course, and Chris's one), which started a discussion with MS Guy on 'why there's no 100% adoption at IBM', for Notes and Symphony: { Link }]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/3gk1HLYx_F8/ibm-now-has-180000-users-on-lotus-symphony http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/ibm-now-has-180000-users-on-lotus-symphony?opendocument&comments#10162008120441PMBLOEZG.htm don’t expect a major ooo code merge Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:04:11 PM +0100 john head An update on Lotus Symphony for the Mac ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/sp8qr4RBPw4/an-update-on-lotus-symphony-for-the-mac http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/an-update-on-lotus-symphony-for-the-mac?opendocument&comments#10152008050411PMBLOLUP.htm Untitled Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:55:05 AM +0100 Simon Scullion An update on Lotus Symphony for the Mac
First up, following @bepoole's <a href="{ Link } OoO is 3 now, so I'd hope that we're to see some of that effort reaching the codestream of Symphony before long. To still be based on OoO 1.1 is not good.

Secondly, re the point on "native integration" with OSX, maybe they're taking this to a higher level than currently with the Notes client? (Could be a dumb question as I'm unfortunately not a Mac user!)

Would be good to see native integration on Linux too though! ;-)]]>
First up, following @bepoole's <a href="{ Link } OoO is 3 now, so I'd hope that we're to see some of that effort reaching the codestream of Symphony before long. To still be based on OoO 1.1 is not good.

Secondly, re the point on "native integration" with OSX, maybe they're taking this to a higher level than currently with the Notes client? (Could be a dumb question as I'm unfortunately not a Mac user!)

Would be good to see native integration on Linux too though! ;-)]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/UOGwTRjIPXc/an-update-on-lotus-symphony-for-the-mac http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/an-update-on-lotus-symphony-for-the-mac?opendocument&comments#15102008115505BLOETG.htm Liberate Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:16:24 PM +0100 The Liberator IBM now has 140,000 users on Lotus Symphony
IBM has already saved that money. Back in 2005 I understand they cancelled their Enterprise Agreement with Microsoft, saving tens of millions of dollars.

Furthermore, it precipitated the Liberate project (www.ibm.com/software/info/liberate) which shows clients how to make similar savings, un-hooking them from their Redmond addiction.]]>
IBM has already saved that money. Back in 2005 I understand they cancelled their Enterprise Agreement with Microsoft, saving tens of millions of dollars.

Furthermore, it precipitated the Liberate project (www.ibm.com/software/info/liberate) which shows clients how to make similar savings, un-hooking them from their Redmond addiction.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/Alt6cDrIL4M/ibm-now-has-180000-users-on-lotus-symphony http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/ibm-now-has-180000-users-on-lotus-symphony?opendocument&comments#13102008141624BLOHKT.htm Crescendo Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:56:35 +0100 Symphony Blog (Stuart McIntyre) Crescendo ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/-AcuNqxP0PM/crescendo http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/crescendo?opendocument&comments#21082008125635SMIFZX.htm It’s good, but it is not viral Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:51:57 +0100 Ben Langhinrichs Crescendo
My reason for posting is not to put down the effort, but rather to say that if it is oversold, it will disappoint people rather than excite them. Don't call it viral or think it is going to be watched for the sake of being watched, or you are going to create a negative "IBM doesn't get it" backlash.]]>
My reason for posting is not to put down the effort, but rather to say that if it is oversold, it will disappoint people rather than excite them. Don't call it viral or think it is going to be watched for the sake of being watched, or you are going to create a negative "IBM doesn't get it" backlash.]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/wppSBksq8ag/crescendo http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/crescendo?opendocument&comments#08212008125157PMDOMFX2.htm also on The Register Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:37:55 +0100 Mike VandeVelde IBM pushing staff to use Symphony... Link }

Interesting comments there!]]> Link }

Interesting comments there!]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/BTZnt7d5z4k/ibm-pushing-staff-to-use-symphony... http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/ibm-pushing-staff-to-use-symphony...?opendocument&comments#06132008083755PMDOMR29.htm Symphony is not music in Redmond Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:38:45 +0100 Ed Maloney IBM pushing staff to use Symphony... ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/aZKOh6MKo-w/ibm-pushing-staff-to-use-symphony... http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/ibm-pushing-staff-to-use-symphony...?opendocument&comments#06132008073845PMDOMPVA.htm LOL! Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:55:40 +0100 Stuart McIntyre Lotus Symphony "Elite Support" announced ]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/bwlte7dHGUk/06042008043609PMDOMLB6.htm http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/06042008043609PMDOMLB6.htm?opendocument&comments#06052008105540AMDOMDNC.htm Nope, that’s not "elite" support, THIS is l337 sUppOrTzOMG!!!!11!!! Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:37:25 +0100 Turtle Lotus Symphony "Elite Support" announced
OVERVIE\/\/

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Teh thred core applicaTionz making up ibm lotus symphony - lotuss ymphOny documentz, lotus smyphony spreasdsheerz, and lotus symphony pReasenatrionS -r fesigned to handle most office productovity tasks taht Workers typical7y parform lOtiuz symphony applications uspport the op3n document formAt (odf) sstndard, whihc helpz gree userz from propreitary f1Le fromatd adn expensive warez lice|\|sing and upgrade agreemetns!!!!!111

ibm lotus symphony gives Usarz the gfreedom to creat3 an shar inforMaTio|\| as well as 4ssewmble compoasite 4pp71cat1ons that link to business proc3sss~~~~ compaenzi can integrate ibm lotus symphon yto0lz itno trheir custom apPLicatinoz and eAsliy conneCt to a myriad of d4at sources to creatrre composite appl1cationz,,, tehsE rich applications enable uasars to \\\\////\\\\////ork ni a single veiw, and preasent data from mu7tiple sourves instantly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 comd to my ftP

ibm loTus symphony i sa suite of office prodUctivity tools thzt caN be downloaded, oinstalled, and used 4tno charge!!!!!!!!!!!!1

at a glandd

ibm 733t suppRto fro ibm ltouz symphony 1!!!!!111~~~~~~ LOLOLOO!!!!!!!!!!111 I 1;l AHX0R cause you suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 0 delivertz thhe followIng benefis:

* conistent l3vel of support: ibm 733t supprot for lotuz symphony porov1des a level of spport c0nsisten twith rthat uesd by oth3 stAffs equipped witj 1bm oproducts inclUding phone support and electronic supprot

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* UNLIMITED SUPPROT: THER3 S IN0 KLIMIT TO THe NUMBER OF TECHNICaL SUPPORT INCIDNETS U CAN REPORT THORUgH ERMOTE ASSISTANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

pl4nne davailABility dsatyes:

juyne 3, 2008 (ibm 733t suppoRt)

mroe detai7s avai7able In the annuoncement l3tter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~ plz note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111~~ THIS ISJ UST FOR TEH STANDSALONeSYMPHO|\|Y PR0DUCT!!!!!!!111~ supprot fro teh sYmpHony ediotrs ni l0Tus noets Will e co\/eerd by yoR existi|\|g notes suprot entitlmeent]]>
OVERVIE\/\/

IBM 733T SUpPROT FRO IBM lOTUS SYMPHONY l!!!!!!!!!!!11~~~~~ OLLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!1 0, as upprot-only fofra1|\|G, deliverx remmote techNical supp0rt!!!!!!!1 coome to my ftp!!!!!!~ YOU CAN PURCHASE THIS OPTIOANL SUPPORT VIA AN ANNUAL SUBSCrIPOTINO THROuGH PASSPORT ADVANTAGE RO PASDSPROT DAVANTAGE ExPRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~~~~

Teh thred core applicaTionz making up ibm lotus symphony - lotuss ymphOny documentz, lotus smyphony spreasdsheerz, and lotus symphony pReasenatrionS -r fesigned to handle most office productovity tasks taht Workers typical7y parform lOtiuz symphony applications uspport the op3n document formAt (odf) sstndard, whihc helpz gree userz from propreitary f1Le fromatd adn expensive warez lice|\|sing and upgrade agreemetns!!!!!111

ibm lotus symphony gives Usarz the gfreedom to creat3 an shar inforMaTio|\| as well as 4ssewmble compoasite 4pp71cat1ons that link to business proc3sss~~~~ compaenzi can integrate ibm lotus symphon yto0lz itno trheir custom apPLicatinoz and eAsliy conneCt to a myriad of d4at sources to creatrre composite appl1cationz,,, tehsE rich applications enable uasars to \\\\////\\\\////ork ni a single veiw, and preasent data from mu7tiple sourves instantly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 comd to my ftP

ibm loTus symphony i sa suite of office prodUctivity tools thzt caN be downloaded, oinstalled, and used 4tno charge!!!!!!!!!!!!1

at a glandd

ibm 733t suppRto fro ibm ltouz symphony 1!!!!!111~~~~~~ LOLOLOO!!!!!!!!!!111 I 1;l AHX0R cause you suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 0 delivertz thhe followIng benefis:

* conistent l3vel of support: ibm 733t supprot for lotuz symphony porov1des a level of spport c0nsisten twith rthat uesd by oth3 stAffs equipped witj 1bm oproducts inclUding phone support and electronic supprot

* dierct respo|\|sr t0 tehj customar: an ibm supprot techniican qwill rtespond wiythhin wto businesz hourz...

* UNLIMITED SUPPROT: THER3 S IN0 KLIMIT TO THe NUMBER OF TECHNICaL SUPPORT INCIDNETS U CAN REPORT THORUgH ERMOTE ASSISTANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

pl4nne davailABility dsatyes:

juyne 3, 2008 (ibm 733t suppoRt)

mroe detai7s avai7able In the annuoncement l3tter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~ plz note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111~~ THIS ISJ UST FOR TEH STANDSALONeSYMPHO|\|Y PR0DUCT!!!!!!!111~ supprot fro teh sYmpHony ediotrs ni l0Tus noets Will e co\/eerd by yoR existi|\|g notes suprot entitlmeent]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/hUqNsaxT5hw/06042008043609PMDOMLB6.htm http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/06042008043609PMDOMLB6.htm?opendocument&comments#06042008073725PMDOMPUF.htm IBM Lotus Symphony 1 released! :-) Fri, 30 May 2008 06:45:03 +0100 VITRIOL More evidence that Symphony 1.0 isn’t far away...
Best regards

VITRIOL]]>
Best regards

VITRIOL]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/jCLhfWj-_nU/more-evidence-that-symphony-1.0-isnt-far-away... http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/more-evidence-that-symphony-1.0-isnt-far-away...?opendocument&comments#3005200806.45.03DOM8RQ.htm IBM Lotus Symphony 1 released! Fri, 30 May 2008 06:40:36 +0100 VITRIOL More evidence that Symphony 1.0 isn’t far away...
Best regards

VITRIOL]]>
Best regards

VITRIOL]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/tcObuvbnj4o/more-evidence-that-symphony-1.0-isnt-far-away... http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/more-evidence-that-symphony-1.0-isnt-far-away...?opendocument&comments#3005200806.40.36DOM8NX.htm The Symphony Attack Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:48:05 +0100 Albert Buendia developerWorks: Introducing OpenDocument
We've linked your excellent blog at SLUG's Blogroll section. Yesterday I've posted an humour entry about "The Symphony attack". Thank you very much about your blog. You can read our blog in English. It has a Google translation gadget at the left bottom. See you,

Albert Buendia]]>
We've linked your excellent blog at SLUG's Blogroll section. Yesterday I've posted an humour entry about "The Symphony attack". Thank you very much about your blog. You can read our blog in English. It has a Google translation gadget at the left bottom. See you,

Albert Buendia]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/symphonyblogcomments/~3/aUpiPwFgTxc/developerworks-introducing-opendocument http://lotussymphonyblog.com/blog/symblog.nsf/dx/developerworks-introducing-opendocument?opendocument&comments#24042008074805DOM9Z4.htm