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Discussions :: It Was the Year 59 A.G.F. Part 1 of 2

Author: Rishi
Subject: It Was the Year 59 A.G.F. Part 1 of 2
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:42 pm (GMT 1)
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It was the Year 59 A.G.F.
Part 1 of 2

Nineteen warm bodies clad in an odd assortment of tattered clothes, huddled around a campfire, the night breeze swirling the flames in orange pirouettes. Behind them were the rusted hulks of what they used to call "vehicles" in the Before Time...a "Ford Ranger" flatbed truck, it's windshield completely broken out, and the dashboard now a "planter" for a variety of flowering weeds. Another mass of faded paint and twisted metal, whose passenger side door had been ripped completely off in some violent collision, still had a barely legible label on it which read, "Econoline van". These two enigmas of a former time, which few really understood any more, served to block the wind from the discussion which now took place.

The stench of bodies lying dead on highways, in ransacked homes and upon streets the world over, had passed in the wind. The choking fumes of burnt plastic and various other toxic materials, was becoming but a tale to be told, to children too young to remember what was now called, "The Great Fall".

An old woman with an intense stare gazed off through the fire, as if she were using it as a crystal ball to See the spirit world. She was the only one of the nineteen who wore hand woven clothes, of a simple purple dye and pattern. Fifteen adults and three children patiently waited for her speak again, for she sometimes took long pauses to contemplate memories of times past. A child of six suddenly broke the silence, as children often do, and said, "Tell us again about the Before Time, Grandma!". The woman beside her, embarrased by this display, reprimanded in a loud whisper..."Hush now Marina! Be patient, and you don't call her 'grandma' during the time of the Storytelling, address her respectfully as "Elder". "Yes mommy" the child replied softly, staring at the ground poking a stick at the dirt in little circles.

"So you want to hear again about the Before Time, do you?", the old woman asked with raised eyebrows, showing a mixture of grave seriousness and amusement. "Yes Elder!" piped the child. "Don't you ever get tired of that story?" "Oh no!", "No way!" "Please tell us again!" all three children said in unison. "Very well then, move closer so I don't have to yell the tale over the wind." So everyone moved closer to that side of the fire. The adults were as focused and interested in hearing this story as the children were, for the old woman, who called herself, "Heroditus" was one of the few people left, who was actually alive during the Before Time. She was old, but even so, only a little girl during that period in history. An intense fascination for history was now considered normal, and yet, no one of this local Tribe knew for sure what year it was by the old calendar. Some said it was the year 2073 AD by that reckoning, others simply referred to it in more "modern" terms as 59 AGF, or in other words, the 59th year After the Great Fall. The place was what was once called, "Northern California".

Heroditus said, "Although there are those of other Tribes in this area who glorify that dark time in our past, wishing again for the 'luxuries' of that world, they are but fools. The reason we study history is to learn from it and grow beyond it, in order to become true Human Beings. That time of great cities which used to stretch for miles in all directions, of "highways" and "jumbo jets" and "supermarkets" and "genetic engineering" is nothing to long for. It was a time of great madness, when our kind had lost it's soul.

"What's a 'supermarket' grand-, I mean Elder"? asked Marina. "Shussh!" her mother cautioned, frowing. But Heroditus looked at her daughter saying, "It's ok, questions flow from alert minds". Turning to the child, she said, "A supermarket, honey, was a large building where people used to go to get their food".
"Why'd they do that when they coulda just growed it for themselves?"
"Well some did, but most just grew grass in their lawns, only to have to keep cutting it down every week".
"What good is growing grass only to cut it down every week?" the child asked.
"It really isn't any good for much of anything except to waste water and fertilizer, honey. But as a matter of fact, the people of those times wasted just about everything".
"Why'd they do that?"
"Because", the Elder replied, "they were mad little buggers".
Everyone chuckled, because Heroditus always called the people of the Before Time, "mad little buggers" especially just before she'd tell a very passionate tale of that dark period in human history.

"So as I was saying, it was a time of great madness, when our kind had lost its' soul. It was a time when there was very little respect for anything at all, when we lived apart from nature and actually strongly resented it as an enemy to be subdued. Plants were just "things"...either decorations or nuisances to be hacked on, whole forests were wiped out all over the world for the sake of profit, the rainforests were basically gone. Animals were just "pets" or meals to be grown in cages where they could barely even move, and where they were often fed the ground-up dead remains of their own kind to "save money".
"Money?" asked another child, "What's that"?
"Money used to be how they lived their lives, dear", said her mother quietly, taking a small, darkly tarnished piece of metal out of her pocket and handing it to the child.
"But I thought this was called a "quarter", replied the boy.
"Yes dear, it was called that too, now listen".

Heroditus continued. "The Before Time was a time when the once noble human being, was made into what is basically just a greedy, sloppy pig, feeding at a trough. They even called themselves, "consumers" and that was the one thing they were truly good at. They weren't much good at living peacefully with one another, nor in living naturally or simply, or in being wise. They weren't much good at living with each other in what they used to call "nations"...there was always multiple wars and armed conflicts raging all over the globe, in every day of every year. They weren't much good at being efficient or practical, in fact, most scoffed at those concepts. Marriage was usually just a financial agreement, not a dedication to love. And although there were many who called themselves, 'spiritual' the vast majority of those were just hypocrites, who said one thing, only to live the exact opposite in every day of their lives. They had governments so corrupt that political positions were often sold to the highest bidder or campaign contributor, where Senators were actually corporate henchmen, having nothing at all to do with observing the will of the people they supposedly governed. They built great prisons, but lousy schools. They had huge militaries, but a run down system of roads, bridges and public utilities. Oceans and rivers were just dumping grounds for corporate profits. Whole ecosystems were referred to not with spiritual reverence, but as "services" and "resources" for human exploitation. So it's only fitting, I suppose, that they called themselves, 'consumers' rather than 'thinkers', 'seers', 'philosophers', 'lovers' or 'idealists'. They consumed literally EVERYTHING in their path the world over...forests, animals, oil, metals, rivers, lakes, oceans...all for the sake of petty fashion and ego. Almost everybody then felt they had a need and a God-given right to be their own little emporer. Each felt that it was their right to have that mansion, three car garage, more clothes than they could wear, and more food than they could eat. Meanwhile, two thirds of the human world was either already starving or coming close to it. It was like the Old Roman Empire a hundred times over. And when things started to really run out, with the forests gone, the water too polluted to drink and the fish too toxic to eat, they increased their efforts to steal what was left from others peoples' lands, in even MORE wars. It was at about that time, that things started getting really dark. And amidst all this pointless destruction, they actually had the nerve to call it all, 'progress'."

"They called it 'progress'? asked a man of about 30, incredulously. "I don't believe it!".
"Believe what you will Markus, but it's true. What they considered 'progress' was based upon sheer greed, and I believe, an unspoken desire to commit collective suicide. In fact, their greed was a reflection of an inner hollowness and pointlessness, one so deep and so pervasive, that society had itself convinced 'progress' meant building things called 'shopping malls' where a forest used to be. They built such structures just so that people would have a convenient place to have their hair done, and buy gifts of little practical value."
"I didn't know that" Markus said, the light of amazed realization brightening his eyes by the fire. "But how can a people actually believe all of that has anything to do with real human progress?"
"As I told you", Heroditus responded sourly, "they were mad little buggers".
"Mad little buggers!" "Mad little buggers!" the children cried in unison, jumping up and down by the fire, laughing as they jumped. "Mad little buggers!" The adults laughed too regardless of this display, for no one here had any particular fondness for the fools of that Age. Those in the Before Time had, after all, almost destroyed the whole world and everything upon it, with their silly ideas about "prosperity" and the purpose of life. Going from a world population of around 8 billion, 99.999% of the human race had suddenly died within a few years, snuffing themselves out like a paltry candle in the wind, leaving only a comparitive handful of survivors to carry on the human legacy, in a now largely toxic wasteland.

After a few minutes of levity, the group calmed down, while Heroditus continued her story. "And on top of all this, not one person out of 5 thousand seriously questioned the false goals of a greedy, corrupt and egotistical society. People then were taught by so-called "schools" to obey without question...to get in line, rely on the system for everything you are and everything you want, and everything you believe. People then had very little individuality...they were more like numbers than genuine humans....mental clones would be a good phrase for them. Most even named their children the same as thousands of others...that was before people started naming themselves, before they realized that conforming to the social norm is NOT more important than being wise. And they spent most of the time watching this thing called "television" which told them exactly how to think and act, what to say in company, what to believe, what to wear, what to BE, and most of all what to 'consume'. "

"They say that television was evil" said a woman in the shadows, who had just joined them from the yurt-style villiage beyond.
"And so it was" replied the old woman. "But perhaps I should say the USE of it was evil, even though the technology itself was interesting, and could have been used for enlightening pruposes".
"What WAS it used for Elder?" asked Markus.
"It was used for brainwashing people into compliance, basically, and for distracting them from the startling revelation that their lives as consumers were being wasted on frivolity, and a fascination with all things trivial, destructive and pointless. It was used to sell them a great many false ideas and mostly unneeded objects. People used to bury themselves in absurd focuses then...they even had what was called 'magazines' dedicated to nothing but gossip about 'celebrities', and a lot of other nonsense, which nobody in their right mind would care about. The vast majority even glorified randomness, chaos and trivial gossip, pretending that there was no such thing as truth or meaning in life." Many of the adults nodded, for they had seen old tattered remains of these 'magazines' and their 'celebrity gossip'.

"They were indeed quite mad to focus on such things, especially while the whole world was falling apart", commented Markus glumly.
"Mad little buggers!" cried the children, laughing again.
"It's not a game children, it's really a very serious and tragic thing" cautioned Heroditus, and only the sound of the crackling fire then remained. The children reseated themselves, frowning, and waited respectfully. "You have to understand that those times were an incredible waste of human potential. Everybody rushed about in little circles and tight schedules, like a foolish dog chasing it's own tail, pretending as though all of it meant something. But it didn't. None of that meant anything at all. And that fact didn't seem to bother anyone either. This proved only that humans have a tendency to believe in their own madness, and teach their children to do the same. That whole era accomplished absolutely nothing but the near destruction of us all, in the name of "fashion", "conformity" and "fad". That's why they did everything you know...to be like everybody else, and everybody else called themselves 'consumers'. Even when they did something to supposedly "be different" like wear a different fashion of clothes, they did so only because, "being different" was what all their friends wanted to do. Of course, almost nobody was truly 'different' from the status quo, since they lacked both the courage and the intelligence for such a thing." She paused for a moment, considering gravely, "And then the time of the Great Fall happened, and everybody started dying..."

Matthew Webb visionquest@eoni.com
The World Mind Society
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Discussions :: It Was the Year 59 A.G.F. Part 2 of 2

Author: Rishi
Subject: It Was the Year 59 A.G.F. Part 2 of 2
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:41 pm (GMT 1)
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It was the Year 59 A.G.F.
Part 2 of 2

Heroditus gazed off into the flames again, frowning, a tear flowing down her cheek in the orange-lit night. She put her head down on her arms, while sitting on a rusted folding chair. Her shoulders sagged uncharacteristically, as though the telling of this tale had suddenly become too much for her old frame to handle. But then she raised her head, and with a look of determination continued;

"It was about the year 2011 or 2012 AD of the old calendar, if memory serves correctly. That's when it all started to fall apart in a way that even consumers couldn't ignore. Agriculture had been degrading for decades...the over-use of artificial fertilizers and bad farming methods on, "super-farms" had made food tasteless, toxic and non-nutritive. Erosion was having it's way...7% of arable land was being destroyed every year. Deserts were rapidly expanding all over the world, rivers were drying up, the old pesticides weren't really working any more because 'pests' had become too resistant, and vegetables were genetically engineered just to make them last longer without rotting. The price of food just kept climbing and climbing. Of course, it didn't matter to most people that the food wasn't worth eating any more, conditioned as they were to imagine that profit margins are far more valuable a thing than life, or for that matter, a life well lived. And they say that the livers of those people, their blood, tissue and organs were so polluted with hundreds of poisons, that they scarcely needed to be embalmed upon death. And of course, these unnatural toxins created in the Before Time, ones that still circulate in our water and air, are why only a lucky few of us can even have children to this day".

"Jesus!", "What a shame!", "Idiots!" were the comments blurted out then from the listening crowd.

The Elder continued, nodding. "Yes, and these things were just the tip of the iceberg. The forests, even those carefully 'managed' and re-planted, had become so depleted that logging trucks now carried little else but sticks to paper mills. They could have planted hemp, of course, but this was contrary to the profits of many corporate interests. So rather than planting hemp for clothes, food, soil improvement and paper, they chose instead to destroy the very lungs of the planet. There was much talk about, "preserving the environment" through replanting, but ofcourse, this was just posturing...the forests has become little more than tree farms, not true ecosystems of great diversity. Livestock farms were places where horrible atrocities were committed to animals..beaks were cut off so they wouldn't peck each other to death, pens were like disease causing prisons, animals were injected with and fed hormones and other chemicals just to make them grow faster, or fight off infections from being mistreated...and all this once again, was just to make a few extra dollars"

"Why would they do that", asked another woman, "when it's obvious that when you take an axe to chop off your own foot for a meal, that you're going to bleed to death? I mean, what were they thinking, that they weren't actually biological creatures living on a biological world...did they think of themselves as indestructible machines?"

Heroditus laughed. "Yes, I believe they did. To be more specific, money-making machines. This is what happens to a world when the people believe in a philosophy as shallow as that of materialism. You ask this question, Demeter, because you're a practical person...all of us here are practical people who live close to the earth, as nature intended. But when you have people indentifying themselves en masse with a label like 'consumer', you've got minds that think of themselves as little more than a jaw moving up and down... with busy arms and legs that make sure that jaw is kept constantly fed....just like a devouring machine. Back then they even had a saying, 'THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH!', and that was what they literally believed. No matter how much you had already, you wanted more and more, and this was as true of those who lived homeless on the streets, as it was of multi-billionaires who practically owned whole countries. Consumerism was a dread sickness of both mind and soul, you see. Basically, this made consumers just like deadly parasites. A deadly parasite will chew and chew upon it's host until the host body drops dead, killing even the parasites within it. This of course is exactly what happened to them...they chewed upon the good earth with jaws constantly moving up and down, FAR beyond practical need, until the earth simply couldn't support them any more! And of course, they didn't have the good sense to stop reproducing like bacteria."

An owl hooted in the distance, and the wind had died down.

"You see, the people of that world thought they owned everything the eye could rest upon. And since they thought life was little more than a pile of possessions, they treated nothing with real respect, even their own bodies. There was no such thing as truth to them. Everything in existence, they thought, was just there for humans to USE as they saw fit, since they also believed that humans are the center of the universe. Why, they even invented a god called "jehovah" that looked like a man. They pictured 'him' predictably, as a white haired, late middle-aged caucasion male in a Roman toga, with a sneering and arrogant countenance, claiming that man was created in the image of this "god". Even their "holy scriptures" said that man has dominion over all of nature as a divine birthright, to use however he wishes, as a gift from God. The truth is, man made many false gods throughout history in his own image, and always to 'justify' his own false motives. So it's not hard to understand how they thought their all-destructive way of life might last forever...after all, how could God's little darlings be allowed to fail?"

"This was about the time even the polar ice caps began to melt with global warming, and super-storms got stronger and stronger, until the damage done just from global warming itself began to bankrupt the nations of the world. But of course, by then most of them were already bankrupt due to huge military budgets, rampant corruption and short-sighted policies. Rome was about to Fall again. Medicine was not about staying healthy, but about how to address the symptoms of disease. They took pills for everything...sex, liver function, digestion, overweight, pancreas function, alertness, anxiety, sleep, blood pressure, psychosomatic diseases of all kinds....everything. Consumers were so busy making money they didn't take care of themselves...obesity and anxiety were epidemic. They didn't even take good care of their own children, so fixated were they upon, 'careers' and, 'financial goals'. They had a hundred pills for everything under the sun, and over nine tenths of these were simply deadly poisons. Herbs were far more carefully controlled and suppressed then, than the tens of thousands of toxic 'medications' for sale through unscrupulous doctors, whose side effects were usually worse than the symptoms they addressed. Why?...well for the sake of profits, of course! Whole regions of the world suffered famines, droughts and plagues. Police and military organizations became very brutal, and crime rates shot through the roof. Mental illness had become so widespread, that psychology began to define the human mind in terms of insanity, as though that was the normal state of the human being."

"That's like forestry defining the woods as a nothing but clearings of stumps!", said Heroditus angrily, pounding her fist on her chair. "Anyway, questioning the status quo was viewed with both suspicion and resentment. Those few who stood for anything were sometimes called 'terrorists'. I've even heard it said that anybody who rightfully and truthfully criticized consumer society were routinely called 'negative'. Imagine that! What could BE more negative then than consumer society itself? And yet, their hypocrisy and madness ran so deep, they just called any criticism of a world destroying paradigm, 'negative'! They were very arrogant people, which is why they had this attitude. Most actually IDENTIFIED with corrupt society you see, and so, they perceived any criticism of that society as criticism of themselves. 'How dare you say such things!...how negative, how presumptuous!' was considered the acceptable response, even though that reeked of egotism and insincerity. The world was OBVIOUSLY in big trouble, and such criticism was OBVIOUSLY well deserved. But that didn't stop them from being arrogant anyway."

Everyone sat, wide eyed and thoughtful without interrupting this time. The sky had cleared somewhat, and a full moon shown through some trees onto the clearing below. Only glowing embers of the fire remained.

"Then agriculture collapsed and the oil ran out. The trees were all but cut down, and the air had a filthy taint. Humanity had become what some later called, "techno-primitives", where, despite their ability to build geostationary satellites and advanced computers, they were too dumb to even know themselves. Although they could build a spaceship to fly to other planets, they were too confused and corrupted to even CARE that they were poisoning their own children. They had become like bad animals with large brains and no wisdom. And like any other primitive animal in a cage, they soiled their own food and water, to the point of collective suicide.

I remember the day the Great Fall started to really happen...the lights went out again, and then they STAYED out. All the electrical appliances in the house had suddenly become useless. We couldn't open any cans of food for a day and a half, until mom finally found a hand operated can opener under the sink. Water from the refrigerator ran all over the floor, and the toilet was clogged with nothing to flush it with. Plus, when the running water in the faucets stopped, we couldn't take showers any more. Cooking meals had to be done on the back lawn with the barbeque stove, but only when the neighbors weren't looking, since we couldn't trust them any more to not try and steal our food. Then the propane ran out. Nobody trusted anybody, and even as a terrified little child, I wondered then if they ever REALLY did.

The fire department suddenly had too many fires to put out, because of arson and sheer stupidity on the part of people, and so they had to prioritize their resources carefully. But after a week the fire engines quit coming, and things just started to BURN everywhere! The police were having a hard time keeping people from looting and burning everything, and hungry groups of people turned into rioting mobs. Then the police quit coming! Everyone shouted about how the government had let them down. Others cried on their knees and begged to God, asking, 'How could you let this happen to us'? Some people tried to help put out the fires, and a few neighborhoods policed themselves for a while, but the barricades they put up in the streets were quickly torn down by rioters searching for food. The grocery stores had already been completely ransacked...many were burnt down to the foundation in frustration. The same was true of the banks and public offices. The sounds of windows being shattered by stone-throwers could be heard at all times in the day or night, as could frightened screams, yelling and loud fights. I huddled in my bed in the candle-lit darkness absolutely terrified, and although my mother and father tried to calm me, I could tell they were as scared as I was.

"Where were you at the time, Heroditus?" asked a man in the crowd.
"I was in a place they used to call 'Los Angeles', which meant 'city of angels', she replied with disgust, "and in what was once considered, 'a very good neighborhood'. My recollection gets a little fuzzy at this point, because I was very traumatized. But at one point the next evening there was a loud knock on the door. Then the knock turned into a frantic banging, and my parents dared not answer it. They just sat on the sofa hugging each other saying things like, 'It's all going to be Ok...order will be restored soon..the governed has GOT to send the 'national guard' in to set things straight'. But I knew even then that there was no government left.. before the television went silent, they were having problems they couldn't handle even with the military, and that had been two weeks ago. People were in widespread DENIAL up till the very last moments of modern civlization. I still marvel at this even now."

"Soon a bottle of something was thrown through the window...I screamed, and we all ran to the back bedroom. Then it sounded like somebody was coming through the window...I heard several of them talking while stepping on the broken glass. They were going through our kitchen and stealing our food! My father wouldn't have that, so he ran out into the kitchen to confront them...then I heard a gunshot and my mother ran out to see what happened to my father...I heard her scream "NO!" and then I heard more gunshots. Again there were feet on broken glass as the rioters ran outside. I dared not move an inch! I sat in the pitch-black like a little animal in it's burrough, inside the bedroom closet where my parents had told me to hide. I trembled and would have cried, except I was too worried somebody might hear me. For what seemed like hours I sat there, not knowing what to do, but longing to see my parents. So I finally crawled into the kitchen on hands and knees, and with a flashlight got up the nerve to shine light the floor and look around. There lie both of my parents dead in a pool of blood...shot to death over a half dozen cans of food! I howled with anger and fear, and then smelled smoke. The house was on fire...I had to get out! I ran back to the bedroom, opened the window and was just about to crawl outside, when a man came up and helped me through it. I never feared him, even in those circumstances, and he hurried me to a car with a woman waiting there. These two became what I later called, 'my adoptive parents' and we somehow made it this far north, to help found what would later be called, one of the, 'neo-tribes'."

"But forming this tribe didn't happen for a couple of years...people were still everywhere at that time raping, looting and burning. Many of the remaining forests burned too. Nothing was safe for the longest time, not even remote cabins, because many headed to the countryside in an effort to survive. People died like flies, EVERYWHERE. About 30% of them died, I believe, just from a lack of prescription medications, within three weeks of the power going out. Another 60% died just from killing each other in the next 12 months, and when I say 60%, I mean about 4 1/2 to 5 billion people the world over! The rest of humanity which perished, died from a lack of food within the next two years, because, being the 'techno-primitives' that they were, they didn't know anything about growing their own food, hunting or survival of any kind...they didn't even have logical or practical minds. So just just DIED in droves."

"And that's the story summarized...many of you know what came next...the rebuilding of humankind, and the re-thinking of everything the Before Time thought was important in life. Many of us took oaths to the effect of, 'never again would we worship material things over truth, God and nature' and so, we never have. We determined ourselves to fully realize that life has much greater value than any 'profit margin' could ever have. And, we have learned that the owning of shiny things does not make a better person. That's just a waste of life and precious resources, for the sake of primitive ego. If anything, the spiritual one who isn't interested in accumlating material objects just for their own sake is 'better', for they hold their life priorities in accord with sanity. And above all else, we learned that the truth itself is all that ever did or ever will really matter."

The entire crowd, which had grown to about 30 people by now, almost the entire community, were listening carefully nodding their heads. No one said a word, but all looked on in admiration for their Elder-Historian, because no one was held in higher esteem in most tribes.

Finally, before the night was done, Heroditus said one last thing, which everyone thought about quite a bit, as they went to sleep in their tarp yurts.

She said, "I wonder how any of those people in the Before Time would react to what has been said this night, if they could have somehow listened in? Would they have changed their ways and embraced natural, simple living? Would they take up spiritual practice and hold truth above all other things, or would they merely scoff and walk angrily away? I wonder..."

Matthew Webb visionquest@eoni.com
The World Mind Society
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The 'War on Drugs' :: Don't Let Congress Censor Discussion of Legalization

Author: Ferre
Subject: Don't Let Congress Censor Discussion of Legalization
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:53 am (GMT 1)
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http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5663/t/5525/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=2218

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Don't Let Congress Censor Discussion of Legalization

As soon as this Thursday, November 5, the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee could vote on an amendment that will legally prevent some of the government's top advisers from even discussing the idea of legalizing or decriminalizing drugs as a solution to the failed "war on drugs."

Yes, you read that right. The Senate just might censor its own policy advisers from giving science-based advice.

The censorship amendment's author, Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA), is trying to attach the speech prohibition onto an otherwise positive bill that will create a blue ribbon commission to study our nation's failed criminal justice and drug policies. The commission is supposed to make recommendations for ways to improve the system, but how can they do that with the blindfold that Sen. Grassley wants to put on them? Please take action below and tell your senators to oppose the censorship amendment!

GO HERE:
http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5663/t/5525/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=2218
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Cannabis news :: RE: 'Murder Weed'

Author: Ferre
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:33 pm (GMT 1)
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Related article;

http://www.unclemikesresearch.com/u-s-district-court-denver-colorado-imposes-first-federal-marihuana-law-penalties/
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Discussions :: RE: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

Author: Ferre
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:05 am (GMT 1)
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Don't you love it how they always come up with the brightest of ideas?
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Discussions :: RE: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

Author: David
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:18 pm (GMT 1)
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However, as we are polluting this earth with chemicals that will eventually kill us after it has killed loads of other species our earth's evolution process is still continuing, micro organisms pop up that can thrive in this polluted environment and from there on life just keeps developing on this planet.

With or without us.

Phew, that good news to know, I thought we were having a detrimental effect, and the earth wasn't going to be able to support life. It's like worrying about how dirty your windows are before getting evicted.

But don't worry we have a plan.
http://www.croptrust.org/main/arctic.php?itemid=211
Yes, spend lots of money on a seed bank, then if we do destroy ourselves all the seeds will be safe, in a concrete bunker.

Discussions :: RE: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

Author: Ferre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:44 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 26

Many people nowadays are lead to believe that we humans are destroying the planet, but that is not true.

We are destroying much, that is true, we are destroying the species (plant and animal) that we ourself depend on for our food chain, that is also true.

However, as we are polluting this earth with chemicals that will eventually kill us after it has killed loads of other species our earth's evolution process is still continuing, micro organisms pop up that can thrive in this polluted environment and from there on life just keeps developing on this planet.

With or without us.
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Discussions :: RE: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

Author: sushil_yadav
Subject: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:03 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 26

Sir Les wrote:

God said to tend and keep the Garden with all plants given, and all that he made good.

And here we are near the end of it...and people are starting to awaken to a almost dead planet...and the constructors of just such an enviroment full of evil doers and the ilk of $atan and the idolic belief system is to blame!

the destruction of the enviroments and the other animals insects etc are by far the most disrespectful acts of trespassing I've come to know is going on in the World...because they do not believe in God or his words of wisdom....which are true...

Sir Les

On earth we have got oceans and oceans of water - which have been polluted/ poisoned by man - but this is hardly news for humans.

Recently Man bombarded the moon with a rocket to discover traces of water - and it became the newspaper headline across the world.

They call it progress, growth, development.

Height of insanity - Height of abnormality.

Don't search for a few molecules of water in outer space.

Take care of the water that is available on earth.

sushil_yadav
Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

Events and festivities :: RE: H.T.C.C. 2009

Author: viper
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:06 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Planned Events 2009 Cups

22nd High Times Cannabis Cup Schedule

Friday, Nov. 20: Judges Registration at the PowerZone, noon to 5 PM
Saturday, Nov 21: Judges Registration at the PowerZone, noon to 5 PM
Sunday, Nov. 22: Expo opens at 2 PM at the PowerZone
2 PM David Peel performs
3 PM Changes in Dutch Marijuana Policy: What the future holds by Joep Oomen and Jacqueline Woerlee
5 PM Cultivation Seminar with Arjan
7 PM Steven Hager on Tom Forcade
8 PM Old Hall Melkweg: Opening Ceremonies, pre-test winners announced
9 PM Old Hall Melkweg: Easy Star All Stars

Monday Nov. 23: Expo open noon to 8 PM at the PowerZone
1 PM Erik from Hydro Secrets
3 PM Cultivation Seminar with DNA Seeds
5 PM Cultivation Seminar with Nico
7 PM Rick Simpson
9 PM Melkweg Old Hall: Yellowman
10 PM Melkweg Max: Gomez

Tuesday Nov. 24: Expo open noon to 8 PM at the PowerZone
1 PM Emperor Wears No Clothes film screening
3 PM Cultivation Seminar with Soma
5 PM Book Party with Dave Bienenstock
7 PM John Sinclair seminar
9 PM Melkweg Old Hall: Los Marijuanos, Drive By Wire, Funky Jah Punkys
10 PM Melkweg Max: Slightly Stoopid

Wednesday Nov. 25: Expo open noon to 8 PM at the PowerZone
1 PM Seminar with Debby Goldsberry
3 PM Seminar with THSeeds
5 PM Cultivation Seminar with Simon of Serious Seeds
7 PM Meet Bobby Black and Miss High Times
9 PM Melkweg Old Hall: Magic Heart Genies
10 PM Barrington Levy

Thursday Nov. 26: Expo open noon to 8 PM at the PowerZone
1 PM Seminar with Brett of Apothecary Seeds
3 PM Meet Derry of Barney's Farm
5 PM Seminar with Danny Danko
9 PM Melkweg Old Hall: The Pomarians
10 PM Melkweg Max Cannabis Cup Awards Show
11 PM Melkweg Max: Jefferson Starship and Quicksilver Messenger Service
12 AM Melkweg Old Hall THSeeds Party and Fashion Show
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Cannabis news :: RE: Police: Boy used Bible page for joint

Author: malloryjade
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:35 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 2

this is too funny!!!!!! What kind of mom is she?
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General news topics :: teenager spent one month in prison

Author: David
Subject: teenager spent one month in prison
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:34 am (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 0

Nine bags of cannabis in teen�s room
by SAMERA KHATOON
A TEENAGER who was detained by police because he �smelled of cannabis� was kept in custody for a month facing drugs charges which were later dropped, a court has heard.

News - Bag of cannabisThe 17-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was arrested in Blackpool Street, Burton, after officers noticed a strong smell of cannabis when he walked past.

Burton Youth Court was told that the boy threw down a bag which was found to contain the class B drug. A search of his parents� house produced nine further bags hidden in a shed and more in the youngster�s room, along with cash.

Alka Marston, prosecuting, said: �He said all of the vegetation recovered belonged to him and it was all for personal use. He wasn�t going to sell it; he just had it in different bags.�

The separately wrapped drugs weighed more than 17g with a street value of �200.

Police also seized 261mg of another substance, which was originally believed to be cocaine but later proved not to be the class A drug. The court was told that the substance had still not been identified.

The teenager was originally charged with possession with intent to supply cocaine, which was dropped due to a lack of forensic evidence.

Another charge, of possession with intent to supply cannabis, was reduced to possession of the class B drug.

Mark Aspden, defending, said: �My client has been in custody since September 7 because of the serious nature of the matters that he was at that point facing.

�Effectively, he�s spent a whole month in custody, which is equivalent to a two-month sentence, when he shouldn�t have. He�s always admitted possession of cannabis for his own use.�

The teenager admitted possession of cannabis and was handed a six-month community rehabilitation order to run concurrently with an existing order and was ordered to pay �85 costs.

Magistrates also ordered the destruction of the drugs.

Presiding magistrate Charles Theaker said: �By way of explanation we�re making this order concurrent to give credit for your guilty plea. We�ve also taken into account the month you have spent in custody.�

Cannabis, Religion and History :: RE: Sumerians....earliest advanced civilization

Author: Sir Les
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:30 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 28

Here is a FREE E-BOOK:http://www.thecrowhouse.com/projects.html

Download and enjoy....(Right click the book, save target as)

I would like to say that even when you think you know everything, you find that there is even more to know!

We forget about the civilizations now under water...and what was before this place called Earth...how many times did God fold it?
As it is said in Holy Scripture that EDEN Was the first place God Made with Humans in mind....But they were cast out, and put here on Earth.
Because they were disobediant to GOD...and threatened his creations!

So the idea that the Sumerians or any other civilization is the oldest human estate, is not entirely true, if we account that EDEN principle into the equation...and how many times God folded the waters to get Earth...?

We still have to find mu and tow...and before that.?..goes way back to the stone ages...and we find that even then Humans were there with the dinosaurs....

So lets not get to confidents about which is the earlest just yet!

Enjoy the book.

Cannabis, Religion and History :: RE: John Trudell " Religious vs Spiritual" Perception

Author: Sir Les
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:59 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

Said some true things..
Mostly about the Earth...we are resposible for its demise, or its restoration.

Religion ..Holy Bible...ACTS 3:21...10:15,,,and the commandments of God and the one added in by his son.

>Makes a continum!
and when done right, in the right way (sinlessly) it becomes so abundantly giving it has to spread to new worlds!

Thus the kingdom of God increases!
How many times?...ten fold?

hmmm...but if we break the commandments of God...and thus have SIN....this world is dying!
Extinction!
Pollution!
Corruption!
and Human suffering!

That is now oh so appearent....under the idols rule!

Responsible....are we?

And how does God see this tragic enigma?
Simple instructions from God gone arye....why?.....$$$$$$$$$

And so when we draw a line to that MONEY,,,,,its a crime according to God!
For God did not make MONEY! = a dead world!
God made EDEN = A living healthy and sound estate!

Second commandment....continually broken since before Christ Jesus , and afterwards till today...and yet still till tomarrow.

because no one suspects it...."The whole world is decieved!"
And the Earth is going into convultions!
Fire season...and other violant storms, drought, and pestilences...
Oh yes!

Responsible? or Guilty?
Yep on both accounts!!

Cannabis, Religion and History :: RE: CANNABIS SACRAMENT SCRIPTURES

Author: Sir Les
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:36 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 15

Hay thanks for putting all that sacrifice reference up in one post....

Now about Jesus (God's Son)
Did Jesus come to end the sacrifices onto the altar?

If Jesus spoke about "forgiveness of sin's"...if one could change or stop and listen to what Jesus was saying...as most of the burning of animals were for sin offerings...when he said to the prostitue (Sex for Money) Do no more sin and be forgiven...after he saved her from being stoned...by the very men who sinned with her!..."Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"...for they wished to stone her not because she was a prostitute...(which is a sin) but because she had sex with a married man....causing adutlery...(Which is a sin/broken commandment)
But in it all is the unsounded sin they all had!...MONEY!...(which is a sin, and a commandment broken by all) Jesus pointed out...but they did not understand his words!...and so he draws a line in the sand in the form of a ark and puts a circle on one side of the ark...and them on the other side.

Now we know Jesus had no need for money...and he ends up Kicking it out of his fathers house!...stating "Your making a den of robbers and thieves"

As Jesus said..."Do no more sins and be forgiven"....Money creates the prostitute...money creates the poor...money creates the destitute...Money creates the robbers and thieves...the corruption...the evil...the sin...

So did Christ came to do away with the Sacrifices?...or the sin by pointing it out?

Well If we are still in sin..?...or doing something wrong..??....and not fulfilling God's word and will to the exacting word of the letter or law...which would be the restoration of EDEN done sinlessly?
And tending and keeping the animals insects and plants in good health and harmony...and in abundance /Multiplied out...making more...and Sharing in that..."thanks in giving"...and "giving thanks" onto God!...

We have not gained that estate yet, for I still see woe and wrath in my World....why?...SIN!

And if we have not gained forgiveness from God...we must still be doing something wrong!

I wonder what that could be?

And that means we have to sacrifice for sin's again?...or...the end time horsemen will pass judgement on the world....As I see it it is now taking place...a little here and a little there....to awaken us, and save some who are listening and seeking and trying...and those who are not yet convinced...

Eventually humankind will see their error, and correct the problem....we hope!

I still don;t see how burning a goat is going to gain forgiveness from God...if we continually hold Money (Ingraven imaged ) as a means for life.
That is the blatant continual error, the delusion, the bad idea that has been with us humans far too long....how long? ....far too long.!!! when it should never have been at all....!!!!!
Now we have a beast..econimic parasite...polluting and poisoning the Earth.
And the taxed hand now supports it and gives it its power!
And it asks for human sacrifices in bent warfare...more bloodshed onto the new monument it is building...a monument of death....WTC ,,...where everything is given a false value, and turned into a dead weight, stamped with an expire date, and put into a can, plastic rap, or box...and set on a store shelf , for only those who have the Idol....can buy it
and they have a mark...that they can only work, to get the idol to buy the things in the packages..
Those without the mark..can not work, nor buy.....etc/

See any lines of prophetic references here?

I do!

So Did Christ come to forgive us our sins...if they/we are continually breaking the commandments?

And what penitly does God dish out if we do not burn the Goat for our blantant and continual SINS?

Cannabis, Religion and History :: RE: computers

Author: Sir Les
Subject: Re: computers
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:43 pm (GMT 1)
Topic Replies: 1

David wrote:

If god made us in the images of himself, have we made computers in the images of ourselves. If so it gives an idea of how we think or learn.

I think that as we get older we all seem to learn things at the same time or age. Reading, writing, learning to drive, cook and begin sex education. all happen and rough at the same age.

If you can imagine we are learning at every minute we live. When and if we learn these lessons, I believe makes a difference, sometimes detrimental out comes.

Computer doesn't have this problem. when and if they learn is not a problem.

Is it imperative that we all learn at the same time and the same lesson to achieve perfection in thinking the same.

Should with have THE SHIFT (one mind). would this be the telepathy, all knowing the same?

Sorry got to stop been on this one too long.

Computers do not learn on their own....They are programmed by a programmer...to run a certain fuction. or complete certain fuctions..

And Computers do not live...they only function....thus computers cannot procreate in a biological manner.

About sexual education...From scripture...we are born of ADAM and EVE.
That would intail that we are all one family line...and that family has been broken into other lines?...if we are all decendants of those Two...we are a incestual house!....and incestual houses usually give birth to defects and mutations over time.
So...what is it we are suppose to be doing here , is not being taught!
It has nothing to do with SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS>....I believe it had something to do with the Garden , and being helpers of it....and doing it in a perticular state of mind and action.
Sinlessly would embody the Laws of God, encompase the covants of all life, and solve for health care issues...A healthy garden begets healthy people!

Now if God made us in the Image of himself...And God made a Garden called EDEN....then it is in our best interest to follow suite today!
For if we look at the world news...Global warming is in it....and we can climatize the planet with plants...more plants...more food...more health?
That is where the plant belongs...in the system...as a filter...as a climatizer, as a oxygen maker, as a c02 consumer, as a food maker, medicines, textiles, and as a compost for the soils.
Marijuana is all that and more!
It has spirit!

So...By putting it back where it belongs sinlessly...(righteousness springs forth) undoing what Adam and Eve have done!

Restoration of Eden is by far the most perfect ideal this would could know!

But look out into the world...and you will see Oppression, pollution, and warfare ,are taking root with Idolatry and Corruption!...hmmm.

What image is that from?