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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[The secret to your blog&#8217;s success is THIS little-known blogging metric]]></title>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In five seconds, I can take the pulse of your blog using a little-known but crucial blogging metric. This one metric reveals whether you&#8217;ll succeed &#8211; or if you&#8217;re in danger of: Hitting a plateau, Falling victim to the latest social media or Google algorithm change, or Burning out so thoroughly that you swear off [&#8230;]</p>
<p><a href="https://bizmavens.com/site-engagement/">The secret to your blog&#8217;s success is THIS little-known blogging metric</a> is a post by Jeni B. at <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com">Biz Mavens</a>.</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/site-engagement/"><![CDATA[<p>In five seconds, I can take the pulse of your blog using a little-known but <em>crucial</em> blogging metric.</p>
<p><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" src="https://www.bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin.png" alt="Worried your site engagement is no good? How to find out + improve it" width="400" height="600" class="alignright wp-image-4227" srcset="https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin.png 735w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-100x150.png 100w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-200x300.png 200w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-683x1024.png 683w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-53x80.png 53w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-147x220.png 147w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-67x100.png 67w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-159x238.png 159w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-277x415.png 277w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-325x487.png 325w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/blog-smarter-site-engagement-pin-397x595.png 397w" sizes="(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px" />This one metric reveals whether you&#8217;ll succeed &#8211; or if you&#8217;re in <strong>danger</strong> of:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hitting a plateau,</li>
<li>Falling victim to the <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com/social-media/">latest social media or Google algorithm change</a>, or</li>
<li>Burning out so thoroughly that you swear off the Internet forever and relocate to a ramshackle hut deep in the Appalachians.</li>
</ul>
<p>::</p>
<p>Today, I&#8217;ll teach you how to take your blog&#8217;s pulse, but first, we need to put this vital sign in perspective.</p>
<h2>Why taking your blog&#8217;s pulse is so important</h2>
<p>Google Analytics tracks <em>hundreds</em> of metrics related to the health and wellbeing of your blog. But out of those hundreds of metrics, <strong>just one</strong> in particular can tell me at a glance whether your site is thriving.</p>
<p>That metric isn&#8217;t page views, bounce rate, or even the percentage of your traffic coming from Google.</p>
<p>But in FIVE seconds, that one metric can show me <strong>all this</strong> and more:</p>
<ul>
<li>Are you <em>grabbing</em> your readers&#8217; attention away from everything else that&#8217;s vying for their attention?</li>
<li>Are you driving your readers to <em>take action</em>? For example, are you motivating readers to join your mailing list, buy a product you recommend, or check out a related post?</li>
<li>Are you encouraging readers to engage more deeply and <em>more often</em> on your site? Or are you unknowingly pushing readers away?</li>
<li>Do you have a <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com/traffic/">strong brand</a> that boosts your earnings – or a weak brand that leaves a ho-hum (or worse) first impression?</li>
</ul>
<p>::</p>
<p>In a nutshell, this blogging metric takes the pulse on your <em>site engagement</em>.</p>
<h2>The most important question about your site engagement</h2>
<p>Before I tell you where to find this magical Google Analytics engagement metric, humor me and take your <strong>best guess</strong> at the answers to these two questions&#8230; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/1f914.png" alt="🤔" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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<li>Out of all your visitors, what percentage sticks around longer than <em>10 seconds</em>?</li>
<li>What percentage stays longer than <em>30 seconds</em>?</li>
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<p>Go ahead and jot down your two guesses on a scrap piece of paper, and we&#8217;ll come back to it. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/270f.png" alt="✏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Later in this post, I&#8217;ll tell you:</p>
<ul>
<li>Where to find your site engagement numbers for your site,</li>
<li>What a &#8220;good&#8221; site engagement number is, and</li>
<li>What to do if seeing your actual numbers makes you want to bury your head in the sand and hope the problem goes away on its own.</li>
</ul>
<p>::</p>
<p><strong>Spoiler alert</strong>: It <em>won&#8217;t</em> go away on its own, but I&#8217;ll give you some practical, doable steps to get on the right path.</p>
<h2>What you need to know about readers these days</h2>
<p>The amount of online content that&#8217;s available in today&#8217;s world is just plain <em>overwhelming</em>.</p>
<p>Not only that, but the quality of that content ranges from excellent to fair to even unreliable. And <strong>unfortunately</strong>, most of the content falls more toward the middle or end of that spectrum.</p>
<p>And so the online reading experience is a bit like walking into your regular grocery store to find that the owners renovated it to fit as many products as possible into <em>every last square inch</em>. (Hope you like shopping for avocados in the store bathroom! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/1f951.png" alt="🥑" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />)</p>
<p>Picture this: Instead of finding your regular manageable grocery store inventory with four options for mayo and three options for creamy peanut butter, you see <strong>every single one</strong> of the 12 million different products currently available on Amazon.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d have an <em>awful lot</em> of poor quality products to wade through, so you&#8217;d need to come up with an efficient sorting system. <strong>Otherwise</strong>, you&#8217;d end up wasting all day in this Monster Grocery Store just to get what you need to make tacos for dinner.</p>
<h2>The double whammy of <em>high</em> quantity + <em>low</em> quality</h2>
<p>This is why research shows that most readers will decide within <em>10 to 20 seconds</em> of opening your post whether they should keep reading or leave – and never come back.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;People know that most web pages are useless, and they behave accordingly to avoid wasting more time than absolutely necessary on bad pages.&#8221; – <a href="https://www.nngroup.com/articles/how-long-do-users-stay-on-web-pages/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nielsen Norman Group</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Your blog is just one product on the endless shelves of that Monster Grocery Store. And the reader&#8217;s figured out a few <strong>surefire</strong> signs to quickly determine if your site isn&#8217;t worth her time.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, most bloggers don&#8217;t realize how the reader&#8217;s making that decision. In fact, many of us are actively scaring readers <em>away</em> instead of pulling them deeper into our sites. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/2620.png" alt="☠" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s <strong>what happens</strong> if you can&#8217;t keep a reader on your site longer than 30 seconds (or even 10 seconds):</p>
<ul>
<li>Your ad viewability metrics will suffer and drag down ad earnings,</li>
<li>Your affiliate links and product pitches won&#8217;t convert to sales, and</li>
<li>Your mailing list won&#8217;t grow.</li>
</ul>
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<p><strong>Why is user engagement important? Because&#8230;</strong></p>
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<h2>How to measure engagement rate for your blog</h2>
<p>Now that you understand why it&#8217;s so important to keep readers around longer than 30 seconds, let&#8217;s check your site engagement.</p>
<p>Below, I&#8217;ll step you through how to calculate engagement quickly. But if you prefer video, you&#8217;ll find one after the step-by-step instructions.</p>
<ol>
<li>In Google Analytics*, set the date range on the upper right-hand side to <strong>Custom</strong> and then set the dates to the last 365 days. For example, if today is September 1, you would set the dates to September 1, 2018, to August 31, 2019.
<p><span style="font-size: 16px;">* <em>Full disclosure: Google Analytics isn&#8217;t the end-all-be-all perfect tracking tool for site engagement, but it&#8217;s free and good enough to give you a general idea of how you&#8217;re doing.</em></span></li>
<li>In the left-hand navigation menu, navigate to <strong>Audience</strong>»<strong>Behavior</strong>»<strong>Engagement</strong>.</li>
<li>In the upper right-hand corner, click the <strong>Export</strong> button, and select <strong>Google Sheets</strong>.</li>
<li><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12ffVZ9Ib5uGlv44eT2XGejVxz756u-wNINzicfCfZZQ/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Click here to open your free Google Sheet template</a> that will help you track your onsite engagement.</li>
<li>After you open the template, select <strong>File</strong>»<strong>Make a copy</strong> to make your own copy. (This tends to work best on desktop and may not work as expected on mobile.)</li>
<li>In the file you exported from Google Analytics, find the Sessions column, select the cells in that column next to &#8220;0-10 seconds&#8221; through &#8220;1801+ seconds&#8221; and press Cmd-C or Ctrl-C to copy the values.</li>
<li>Switch back to the template you copied in Google Sheets, put your cursor in the empty cell to the right of &#8220;0-10 seconds,&#8221; and press Cmd-V or Ctrl-V to paste the values you copied.</li>
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<h3>[Video] How to measure engagement rate for your blog</h3>
<p><iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/352583699" width="640" height="441" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="allowfullscreen"></iframe></p>
<h2>How to know if your site engagement is healthy&#8230;or in <em>danger</em></h2>
<p>To figure out how well your site is doing, the <strong>crucial</strong> site engagement metric is how many users are leaving within the first 30 seconds. After the 30-second mark, people are more likely to engage with your content and stick it out.</p>
<p>Grab that scrap piece of paper from earlier, and get ready to compare your guesses to your actual website engagement metrics.</p>
<p>In the <strong>Your Diagnosis</strong> column in your spreadsheet, check out the pink-highlighted percentage next to &#8220;Percentage of readers leaving in the first 30 seconds.&#8221; That&#8217;s the percentage of people who leave your site without engaging in a meaningful way.</p>
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<p>If your percentage is <strong>higher</strong> than what&#8217;s shown in the green-highlighted &#8220;Benchmark&#8221; row, you have room for improvement. For example, in this case the site&#8217;s 30-second leave rate is <em>27 percent worse</em> than a site with a strong brand.</p>
<p>The 60 percent benchmark is a rough guideline, but I&#8217;ve seen some sites get that percentage <strong>as low as</strong> 20 percent. If you&#8217;re already below 60 percent, change the &#8220;Benchmark&#8221; number to another goal for yourself like 50 percent or 40 percent. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/1f929.png" alt="🤩" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>If your 30-second number is higher than the benchmark, that means one or more of the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>Your site isn&#8217;t grabbing readers&#8217; attention right off the bat, so they&#8217;re leaving.</li>
<li>All those readers who&#8217;ve left can&#8217;t join your mailing list, buy a product you recommend, or even check out a related post.</li>
<li>Your site isn&#8217;t encouraging readers to engage more deeply and more often. You may even be pushing readers <em>away</em>.</li>
<li>You have a weak brand that leaves a lackluster or negative first impression.</li>
</ul>
<p>::</p>
<p>Below your percentage and the benchmark, you&#8217;ll find rough estimates to give you a general idea of the potential for your business. For example, you&#8217;ll see estimates for ad income you could get from increased viewability, plus subscribers you could gain from readers staying longer than 30 seconds.</p>
<p><strong>So now the question is&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>How can you <em>increase</em> website engagement?</p>
<h2>5 common mistakes that SCARE your readers away in the first 30 seconds</h2>
<p>To build a strong brand with a healthy site engagement, the <strong>best</strong> solution I&#8217;ve seen is the Blog Smarter program. In fact, it&#8217;s the sites of Blog Smarter graduates where I&#8217;ve seen the 30-second attrition metric get as low as <em>20 percent</em>.</p>
<p>However, that program opens just a couple times a year. So I wanted to leave you with a few practical, actionable steps you can take starting today that will keep <strong>more</strong> readers around in those crucial 30 seconds.</p>
<h3>Mistake #1: Letting clutter build up</h3>
<p>Imagine that while you&#8217;re out running errands one day, I sneak into your home. Then I thoroughly cover <em>every inch</em> of your kitchen countertop with bills, receipts, and junk mail flyers. (Forgive me, Marie Kondo!)</p>
<p>Hidden within that endless mess of papers is one <strong>important</strong> paper: a check for $1,000.</p>
<p>When you walk in the door and see the mess, what are the chances that you&#8217;ll zero in on that <em>one important paper</em> in the chaos?</p>
<p>Slim to NONE.</p>
<p>First, you&#8217;d have to overcome the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/well/mind/clutter-stress-procrastination-psychology.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">stress and anxiety</a> of encountering all that visual clutter, and then you&#8217;d have to sort through it all piece by piece.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re committing the equivalent of this Clutter Sneak Attack with our readers. But instead of sorting through the clutter piece by piece, they <strong>give up</strong> and leave.</p>
<p>As just one example, a long sidebar filled with blog badges and ads and other widgets is competing with your content for your reader&#8217;s attention.</p>
<p>But what&#8217;s the quickest way to connect with a new reader? Letting her know you&#8217;re in the &#8220;Food Blogger Brigade&#8221; – or by delivering high-value content she&#8217;ll be able to use in her own life?</p>
<p><strong>Bottom line:</strong> Ask yourself what&#8217;s the most important thing to get across to your reader in the first 10 seconds? Do that, and remove the rest of the clutter to maximize site engagement.</p>
<h3>Mistake #2: Interrupting the reader</h3>
<p>Those first 10-30 seconds are crucial for site engagement. Because if the reader leaves in the first few seconds, you <em>can&#8217;t</em> convert her into a subscriber or a customer.</p>
<p>The best way to spend those first 10-30 seconds is to deliver <strong>value</strong> to the reader. You might share a solution to a problem she has, answer a question she needs answered, inspire her, or make some other impact on her life.</p>
<p>Suppose she&#8217;s reading in search of the value you&#8217;re delivering, but <em>something happens</em> at the 15-second mark.</p>
<p>Your site displays a pop-up window that takes over the <strong>whole</strong> screen, asking her to subscribe to your mailing list.</p>
<p>Or maybe she didn&#8217;t even make it <em>that</em> far. Maybe when your site first loaded and before she could read the first sentence, the entire page shifted down and out of sight to make room for one of those impossible-to-ignore &#8220;welcome mats.&#8221;</p>
<p>But <strong>why on earth</strong> should a reader subscribe when you haven&#8217;t yet delivered <em>any tangible value</em> to her? When she has no idea yet what your site&#8217;s about and if it&#8217;s the right place for her?</p>
<p>Plus, even if you take out all the pop-ups and video ads and countless distractions <em>we&#8217;re</em> giving our readers, that still leaves all the real-life distractions. Social media notifications, chat windows, open browser tabs, new emails, text reminders from their spouses to pick up toilet paper on the way home, and more.</p>
<p><strong>Bottom line:</strong> Protect that 10- to 30-second window for site engagement and focus on delivering value instead of interrupting the reader&#8217;s first experience with your site.</p>
<h3>Mistake #3: Burying the lede</h3>
<p>In journalism, &#8220;burying the lede&#8221; means starting your story with unimportant details and pushing the most important part of the story much later. The risk of burying the lede is that you&#8217;ll lose the reader&#8217;s attention <em>before</em> you communicate why she should care about what you&#8217;ve written.</p>
<p>As bloggers, we do this to our readers <strong>all the time</strong>.</p>
<p>We need the reader to pay attention to the value we&#8217;re delivering – a wicked useful blog post, a step-by-step tutorial, a product that will solve a pesky problem.</p>
<p>But <em>instead</em> we start with things like this:</p>
<ul>
<li>A distracting banner ad,</li>
<li>A huge feature photo, or</li>
<li>A host of other random information most readers don&#8217;t care about, like the post category, a lengthy affiliate disclosure statement, or an endless list of related tags.</li>
</ul>
<p>::</p>
<p>In the first 30 seconds, the reader <strong>needs</strong> to know what&#8217;s in it for her if she sticks around.</p>
<p>When you fill up that 30 seconds with unimportant details, it&#8217;s harder for her to find the main reason why she should keep reading. And if she isn&#8217;t compelled to continue reading, she certainly won&#8217;t turn into a loyal subscriber or a paying customer.</p>
<p><strong>Bottom line:</strong> Make sure your value proposition to the reader is clear within the first 30 seconds. Because of the way readers <a href="https://www.nngroup.com/articles/f-shaped-pattern-reading-web-content/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">scan content online</a>, a good rule of thumb is to include the most important point in the first two paragraphs on the page.</p>
<h3>Mistake #4: Being the hero</h3>
<p>The reader visited your site <em>only</em> because she thinks you can add value to her life, such as by helping her with a problem, answering a question, or inspiring her. The only reason <em>you</em> matter to the reader is as a stepping stone to get where she wants to go.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re familiar with the original Star Wars movie, here&#8217;s an analogy that will resonate: Your reader is Luke Skywalker, the <strong>hero</strong> of the story. And you are Yoda, the hero&#8217;s <em>guide</em> along the way.</p>
<p>When the reader doesn&#8217;t feel like the hero right off the bat, she&#8217;ll typically leave your site.</p>
<p>But while sharing our thoughts and opinions and experiences with the reader, it&#8217;s human nature that we sometimes cross the line into making <em>ourselves</em> the hero instead of the reader.</p>
<h4>Here&#8217;s a quick example for you</h4>
<p>Compare these two post titles to see which one makes <em>you</em> the hero of the story versus the <em>reader</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Title A:</p>
<p>How I Got Control of My Life</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Title B:</p>
<p>How to Get Control of Your To-Do List and Feel Productive Every Day</p></blockquote>
<p>In Title A, the focus is on you, the blogger. You got control of your life somehow, which is good for you but probably doesn&#8217;t mean much to the reader.</p>
<p>In Title B, the perspective has shifted to make the reader the hero because she&#8217;s going to get control of <em>her</em> to-do list once and for all.</p>
<p>To be clear, that doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t write in the first person. But this is just a simple example of how shifting your perspective can help the reader see that she&#8217;s the hero.</p>
<p><strong>Bottom line:</strong> Think of yourself as Yoda, and the reader as Luke Skywalker. When you see through the lens of the reader as the hero, you&#8217;ll see where your perspective needs to shift, what you need to cut, and where you need to focus on what matters to the reader.</p>
<h3>Mistake #5: Asking too much</h3>
<p>Back in 2000, a couple researchers from Columbia University ran a <a href="https://hbr.org/2006/06/more-isnt-always-better" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">famous study</a>. They set up a table in an upscale supermarket with samples of 24 varieties of gourmet jam. Any customer who sampled the jam got a coupon for $1 off any jar.</p>
<p>The next day, the researchers set up a similar table but displayed <strong>only</strong> six varieties of the jam. All customers who sampled that day also got the same $1 off coupon.</p>
<p>As you might expect, the table with more varieties of jam attracted more customers to sample. But here&#8217;s the part that surprises most people: At checkout time, customers who saw the large display were <em>one-tenth</em> as likely to buy as customers who saw the small display.</p>
<p>In other words, customers who had way more options to choose from ended up choosing&#8230;<strong>nothing</strong>. Customers with <em>fewer</em> choices were <em>more</em> likely to buy.</p>
<p>You may have heard this phenomenon referred to as &#8220;choice paralysis&#8221; or &#8220;decision overload.&#8221; And other studies since this &#8220;jam study&#8221; have confirmed that more choice is not always better.</p>
<h4>But&#8230;what does jam have to do with site engagement?</h4>
<p>When a reader visits our blog post, let&#8217;s look at how many different things we&#8217;re asking her to do:</p>
<ol>
<li>Read the blog post</li>
<li>Share this post on Pinterest (and Facebook and Twitter and&#8230;) – typically communicated in the form of social share buttons or even an explicit call to action to share the post</li>
<li>Leave a comment – we encourage this with a link right after the title</li>
<li>Join your mailing list – could be in the sidebar, in a pop-up window, in the body of the post, in a separately formatted call to action, and so on</li>
<li>Click an affiliate link</li>
<li>Buy your product</li>
<li>Read a related post</li>
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<p>::</p>
<p>The list goes <em>on and on</em>.</p>
<p>But when you give the reader too many choices, often her choice becomes&#8230;<em>nothing</em>. Not exactly a recipe for healthy site engagement.</p>
<p><strong>Bottom line:</strong> Decision overload is a real phenomenon, and asking the reader to do too many different things could be overwhelming her. Focus on the <em>most important</em> actions you want the reader to take, and communicate only those.</p>
<h2>One LAST thing: You need to address the <em>root</em> of the issue</h2>
<p>This post gives you a few quick ideas for low-hanging fruit so you can stop pushing readers away in those first 30 seconds. But ultimately, the root of the issue is that you need a strong brand to <em>quickly</em> communicate to the reader where they are – and that your site is the <strong>perfect</strong> place for them to stick around.</p>
<p>Over the years, I&#8217;ve worked with hundreds of bloggers to improve their site engagement. The bloggers who hang onto the <em>most</em> readers are the students who&#8217;ve graduated from the Blog Smarter program.</p>
<p>If you want to build a strong brand for your business and boost your site engagement <strong>as high as possible</strong> – then <a href="https://bizmavens.com/academy/blog-smarter/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">get on the waiting list NOW</a> for the Blog Smarter program. Enrollment opens just twice a year, and waiting list students get first dibs.</p>
<p><a href="https://bizmavens.com/site-engagement/">The secret to your blog&#8217;s success is THIS little-known blogging metric</a> is a post by Jeni B. at <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com">Biz Mavens</a>.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[029: How to Be a Better Blogger with Kevin J. Duncan]]></title>
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		<updated>2021-10-14T16:44:48Z</updated>
		<published>2019-07-01T10:50:05Z</published>
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<p><a href="https://bizmavens.com/029-how-to-be-a-better-blogger-with-kevin-j-duncan/">029: How to Be a Better Blogger with Kevin J. Duncan</a> is a post by Jeni B. at <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com">Biz Mavens</a>.</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/029-how-to-be-a-better-blogger-with-kevin-j-duncan/"><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever find yourself scouring the internet for tips, tricks, or hacks you can use to be a <strong>better blogger</strong>? My guest, Kevin J. Duncan, is an expert blogger and a wonderfully creative writer. If you want to know how to be a better blogger, Kevin is your guy!</p>
<p>Kevin is the Blog Editor and Social Media Manager for Smart Blogger. He’s enjoyed quite the journey to from part-time writer/blogger to today,<strong> living the dream</strong> and working from home. In our conversation, Kevin <strong>details some helpful lessons</strong> that leaders like you can use to make your content engaging and relevant to your audience. I hope you have a pen and paper ready—you’ll need it for this informative episode!</p>
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<h2>In this episode, listen for</h2>
<ul>
<li>[1:35] I introduce my guest, Kevin J. Duncan</li>
<li>[4:00] What made Kevin realize he had a unique writing style?</li>
<li>[8:00] How to develop your unique voice</li>
<li>[10:45] STOP listening to other voices so you can find your own!</li>
<li>[14:30] Practical ways to stand out from the crowd</li>
<li>[22:00] Kevin talks about networking and providing value</li>
<li>[27:15] Advice Kevin wishes he would have received early in his blogging journey</li>
<li>[30:00] Kevin enters the Lightning Round, rapid-fire questions</li>
<li>[39:30] Why Kevin loves working from home</li>
<li>[42:30] Kevin’s favorite blogs to follow</li>
<li>[46:00] Why you should simplify your life and focus on what you&#8217;re good at</li>
<li>[52:00] Closing thoughts</li>
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<p><strong>Listen to this episode by clicking the Play button below:</strong></p>

<h2>STOP trying to be someone else!</h2>
<p>If you want to write compelling content, you need to be well read, right? Wrong! Did you know that one of the worst things you can do to develop your voice as a writer is to constantly consume content from your favorite writers? Too often, men and women get so enamored with their favorite writers that they fail to develop their voice—or worse yet, they start emulating them.</p>
<p>What do you have to lose? Try taking a 30-day break from reading your favorite bloggers. The worst thing that could happen is that you miss out on a really good blog that you can always go back and read at a later date. I’m confident that you’ll find this exercise helpful &#8211; it worked for Kevin! To get more helpful tips like this one to become a better blogger &#8211; make sure to listen to this episode for my full conversation with Kevin &#8211; you don’t want to miss it.</p>
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<h2>Practical steps you can take to stand out from the crowd</h2>
<p>Once you’ve silenced some of the noise in your world by taking a break from reading blogs and books, Kevin has some practical steps you can take to really make your message POP!</p>
<p>You can stand out from the crowd of bloggers and writers by doing this one revolutionary thing: Do more than the bare minimum. Sounds obvious, right? The truth is, many writers will put a piece of content out into the world and hope for the best. They don’t take steps to fan those flames.</p>
<p>When you share something you are passionate about, tell your audience why you are sharing it! Remember that each time you post something on your website or social media, that might be the FIRST time someone is finding out about you. Why not make the extra effort to personalize your message and break out from all the noise they encounter?</p>
<p>Another way to get your message out there and gather a following is to take the time to engage with your readers. Send personalized emails. Reply to your readers in the comments section, and make them feel like you care. What if you decided to try this strategy for 30 days? If it doesn’t work and you don’t get the results you want, stop the exercise—it’s that easy.</p>
<h2>Take the leap and make it happen</h2>
<p>As you build your confidence and you become more comfortable as a writer, the moment will come where you’ll need to make a decision: jump in and commit or maintain the status quo?</p>
<p>I know it sounds scary—change is always disruptive—but you’ll never create the impact you want to make if you always play it safe. Looking back at his career, Kevin wishes he make the plunge into full-time writing sooner.</p>
<p>Kevin now knows that if you want to succeed and become a better blogger, you’ve got to have skin in the game! He discovered that he would never make bold and creative decisions while he was playing it safe. The old saying rings true: &#8220;If you want something you&#8217;ve never had, you must be willing to do something you have never done.&#8221;</p>
<p>I want to hear how you plan on implementing some of Kevin’s wonderful advice. What steps are you going to take to become a better blogger?</p>
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<h2>Notes + Links from Today’s Show</h2>
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<li><a href="https://bloggingwizard.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Blogging Wizard: Discover Actionable Blogging Advice You Can Use</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.enchantingmarketing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Enchanting Marketing | Writing Advice for Small Businesses</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ahrefs.com/keywords-explorer" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Keywords Explorer by Ahrefs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Slack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/drive/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Google Drive</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.focusmate.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Focusmate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Real-Artists-Dont-Starve-Strategies/dp/0718086260" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Real Artists Don&#8217;t Starve</a></li>
<li><a href="https://neilpatel.com/blog/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Blog Neil Patel&#8217;s Digital Marketing Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ahrefs.com/blog/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Ahrefs Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="https://backlinko.com/blog" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Backlinko SEO Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wantedhero.com/about-author/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wanted Hero<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></a></li>
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<h2>Connect with Kevin J. Duncan</h2>
<ul>
<li>Here&#8217;s some of Kevin&#8217;s recent work at <a href="https://smartblogger.com/author/kevin-duncan/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Smart Blogger</a>:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://smartblogger.com/gifts-for-writers/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Best Gifts for Writers: 60+ Ideas for EVERY Budget (Even Yours)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://smartblogger.com/freelance-writing-jobs/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">36 Underrated Ways to Find PAID Freelance Writing Jobs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://smartblogger.com/sensory-words/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">583 Sensory Words to Take Your Writing from Bland to Brilliant</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="https://beabetterblogger.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Be A Better Blogger</a></li>
<li><a href="https://kevinjduncan.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kevin J. Duncan &#8211; Content Marketer. Writer. Blogger.</a></li>
<li>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/kevinjduncan?lang=en" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kevin J. Duncan (@kevinjduncan)</a></li>
<li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/kevinjduncan/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kevin J. Duncan</a></li>
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<p><a href="https://bizmavens.com/029-how-to-be-a-better-blogger-with-kevin-j-duncan/">029: How to Be a Better Blogger with Kevin J. Duncan</a> is a post by Jeni B. at <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com">Biz Mavens</a>.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[028: Podcast Tips You Can Use to Get Started and Expand Your Brand with Carey Green]]></title>
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		<updated>2021-10-14T17:00:12Z</updated>
		<published>2019-07-01T10:41:08Z</published>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you had all the podcast tips you needed to start your a podcast today, would you? Is the lack of helpful information the thing holding you back or do you have some other fears? I get it &#8211; putting yourself out there for the world to hear can be SCARY! Jumping into the podcasting pool [&#8230;]</p>
<p><a href="https://bizmavens.com/028-podcast-tips-you-can-use-to-get-started-and-expand-your-brand-with-carey-green/">028: Podcast Tips You Can Use to Get Started and Expand Your Brand with Carey Green</a> is a post by Jeni B. at <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com">Biz Mavens</a>.</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/028-podcast-tips-you-can-use-to-get-started-and-expand-your-brand-with-carey-green/"><![CDATA[<p>If you had all the podcast tips you needed to <strong>start your a podcast today</strong>, would you? Is the lack of helpful information the thing holding you back or do you have some other fears? I get it &#8211; putting yourself out there for the world to hear can be SCARY! Jumping into the podcasting pool wasn’t easy for me &#8211; but I’ve seen the value, and <strong>I’m convinced that it is worth the investment.</strong></p>
<p>I want to help business leaders like you remove a lot of the fear around podcasting so you can see yourself participating in this effective medium. Here to help remove some of the unknowns and drop some stellar podcast tips is my guest, Carey Green.</p>
<p>Carey is a former pastor turned entrepreneur. He lived his dream and served as a pastor for over 20 years before following his call to the marketplace. These days, Carey spends his time running Podcast Fast Track—helping podcasters (like me!) make it look easy.</p>
<p>In our conversation, Carey provides some valuable podcast tips, things to consider before you start a podcast, who should start a podcast, challenges you can expect, and much more. If you’ve ever considered <strong>podcasting as a tool to grow your brand</strong>, this is the episode for you!</p>
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<h2>In this episode, listen for</h2>
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<li>[0:55] I introduce my guest, Carey Green.</li>
<li>[3:15] Who should look into podcasting?</li>
<li>[5:50] What advantage does podcasting give business leaders?</li>
<li>[8:10] The different type of podcasts on the marketplace.</li>
<li>[9:45] Common misconceptions about starting a podcast.</li>
<li>[12:15] Podcast titles matter!</li>
<li>[15:00] Three things to consider BEFORE you start a podcast.</li>
<li>[18:00] How to avoid “Podfading.”</li>
<li>[22:10] Drawing your listener in is critical.</li>
<li>[27:15] Transcripts, show notes, or both?</li>
<li>[31:20] What does your audience want to hear?</li>
<li>[35:10] How do you make sponsorship deals profitable?</li>
<li>[37:50] Carey’s SPECIAL FREE GIFT to Biz Mavens listeners.</li>
<li>[39:30] Carey enters the Lightning Round; rapid-fire questions.</li>
<li>[49:00] What does Podcast Fast Track do?</li>
<li>[51:40] Closing thoughts.</li>
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<p><strong>Listen to this episode by clicking the Play button below:</strong></p>

<h2>Should I start a podcast?</h2>
<p>Should you start a podcast? If you are an extrovert &#8211; yes! If you are an introvert &#8211; no!</p>
<p>If only it were that simple. The truth is &#8211; there are a ton of extroverts who would make for terrible podcast hosts and a ton of introverts that would excel as hosts. Podcasting isn’t a one-size fit all type of medium. You don’t have to have “Radio voice,” fancy audio equipment, or a huge network to get started.</p>
<p>According to Carey Green, there are three things you need to consider BEFORE you pick out a name for your podcast or even hit the record button. You need to be able to answer these three questions.</p>
<ol>
<li>What is the topic you are passionate about? Nail it down and stick to it!</li>
<li>Do you have value to give your audience? What is your unique perspective?</li>
<li>Who is your target audience? How will you connect with them?</li>
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<p>If you can answer these three sets of questions &#8211; then you are well on your way to getting started! Thankfully, Carey has provided some essential podcast tips for those who are ready to dive in.</p>
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<h2>How to avoid “Podfading”</h2>
<p>Have you ever heard the term “Podfading?” If you aren’t a seasoned podcaster, the answer is likely, “No.” Podfading is a term used to describe the point when a podcast begins putting out episodes more and more sporadically and at greater intervals. If you don’t catch it early &#8211; podfading can lead to the death of a podcast. While there are many causes of podfading, the primary one is often a lack of material.</p>
<p>Can you imagine it? You start podcasting with all the right intentions, excited to get this new creative pursuit out to the public and then the adrenaline spike wears off. Reality starts to set in, and now you have to start creating content at a rapid pace.</p>
<p>How do you avoid podfading and stay ahead of the curve?</p>
<p>Carey has an excellent exercise for you to try; it’s called “Ten, Ten, and Ten.”</p>
<ul>
<li>Take 10 minutes and begin brain dumping everything you could discuss regarding your subject matter or topic. These are just bullet points &#8211; don’t overthink it!</li>
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<ul>
<li>Take the next 10 minutes to organize and prioritize your list. Which areas are your strong suit? Which areas could use a guest perspective?</li>
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<ul>
<li>Finally, take 10 minutes and further break down your prioritized list into three subpoints for each topic.</li>
</ul>
<p>I LOVE this exercise that Carey shared, and I’m going to go out on a limb and try it soon. What other podcast tips would you like to hear? Make sure to reach out to Carey for more resources &#8211; you can find his contact information located in the resources section.</p>
<h2>Grab their attention and draw them in</h2>
<p>One of the most amazing aspects of podcasting is the ability to connect with your listener in a personal and intimate way. How often do you have someone speaking directly into your ear? You can make that segment of time as personal or as impersonal as you’d like.</p>
<p>Whatever you do &#8211; don’t BORE your audience! Podcasting gives you a great platform and the ability to connect with your audience &#8211; make it easy for them.</p>
<p>Don’t bury your lead &#8211; create a title that grabs your listener’s attention. Better yet &#8211; provide a compelling 10-15 second teaser clip at the beginning of your episode.</p>
<p>Help your audience stay engaged with music and sound effects that fit your style and subject matter. Make sure to interact and engage with your audience. Include topics and sub-topics your audience wants to hear about &#8211; ask them if you have to!</p>
<p>This is just a small snapshot of the mountain of podcast tips that Carey has to share. I am super thankful for Carey’s hard work on this podcast and for the generous insights he shared in our conversation. Carey has a FREE resource that he’s made available to those of you ready to make the plunge into podcasting. Email Carey for the FREE resource: carey[at]podcastfasttrack.com</p>
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<h2>Notes + Links from Today’s Show</h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.smartpassiveincome.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pat Flynn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tim.blog/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tim Ferriss</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cameronherold.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Cameron Herold</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nozbe.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nozbe</a></li>
<li>PODCAST: <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/452538045/freakonomics-radio" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Freakonomics</a></li>
<li>PODCAST: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-built-this-with-guy-raz/id1150510297" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">How I Built This</a></li>
<li>PODCAST: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/masters-of-scale-with-reid-hoffman/id1227971746" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Masters of Scale</a></li>
<li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Life-Work-Ray-Dalio/dp/1501124021" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Principles: Life and Work</a></li>
<li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Humility-Andrew-Murray/dp/1458746437" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Humility</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pacific-content.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Making Original Podcasts with Brands &#8211; Pacific Content</a></li>
</ul>
<h2>Connect with Carey Green</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.podcastfasttrack.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Podcast Fast Track</a></li>
<li><a href="https://narrativly.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Narrativly</a></li>
<li>Carey’s email: carey[at]podcastfasttrack.com</li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/careyngreen" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Carey Green &#8211; Founder, Client Happiness Guy, CEO &#8211; LinkedIn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/careyngreen" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Carey Green (@CareyNGreen) | Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/careyngreen" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Carey on Facebook</a></li>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/027-building-a-business-you-can-be-proud-of-with-julie-bogart/"><![CDATA[<p>What does it take to <strong>build a business </strong>that you can look back upon with pride? Sure, there will be challenges and growing pains—but how do you move past those to <strong>create something worthwhile</strong>? Good news: we’ve got a special guest who has done just that: she’s created a strong, profitable business (turned <em>company</em>) that helps people and leverages the power of her team to serve more deeply. I can’t wait for you to learn from my friend, Julie Bogart.</p>
<p>Julie is the creator and owner of Brave Writer, the online writing and language arts program for homeschooling families. Brave Writer&#8217;s mission is to empower homeschooling parents to be writing coaches for their kids. Julie’s work in Brave Writer was recognized as an &#8220;outstanding contribution to society&#8221; in 2017 when she was awarded the Anne E. and William F. Madges Alumni Award from Xavier University.</p>
<p>In our conversation, you’ll hear from Julie as she opens up about how her business started, what it was like building her team from the ground up, the journey from business to <em>company</em>, the best pricing advice she ever received, and much more. You’ll want to come back to this one —Julie has so many great insights to share!</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-4131" src="https://www.bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart.jpg" alt="Julie Bogart, business owner turned company CEO" width="1200" height="630" srcset="https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart.jpg 1200w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-150x79.jpg 150w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-300x158.jpg 300w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-768x403.jpg 768w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-1024x538.jpg 1024w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-80x42.jpg 80w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-220x116.jpg 220w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-190x100.jpg 190w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-280x147.jpg 280w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-453x238.jpg 453w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-750x394.jpg 750w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-928x487.jpg 928w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/growing-from-business-to-company-with-julie-bogart-1133x595.jpg 1133w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></p>
<h2>In this episode, listen for</h2>
<ul>
<li>[1:30] I introduce my guest, Julie Bogart.</li>
<li>[3:00] How did Brave Writer start?</li>
<li>[11:35] What does Julie’s business look like today?</li>
<li>[13:15] Julie opens up about how her business got off of the ground</li>
<li>[16:10] Start listening to your inner mentor!</li>
<li>[23:30] How did Julie begin building her team?</li>
<li>[28:00] The best advice about pricing that Julie ever received.</li>
<li>[31:45] Why The American Girl Doll is such a successful product</li>
<li>[34:20] Don’t try to be Walmart!</li>
<li>[38:40] How the hiring process has changed for Julie over the years</li>
<li>[42:00] Julie shares one of the most challenging aspects of running a business</li>
<li>[45:00] What is your exit strategy?</li>
<li>[47:10] Business is less about what you achieve—and more about who you become.</li>
<li>[49:10] Julie enters the Lightning Round: rapid-fire questions</li>
<li>[59:50] Closing thoughts</li>
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<p><strong>Listen to this episode by clicking the Play button below:</strong></p>

<h2>Listen to your inner mentor!</h2>
<p>One of the biggest challenges associated with building your business from the ground up is taking the time to listen to your “Inner mentor.” Most women are more familiar with their “Inner critic” than their inner mentor and that need to change! Julie Bogart was experiencing a season of massive growth with her business while at the same time going through a period of personal pain with the dissolution of her marriage.</p>
<p>In the middle of this successful but challenging time &#8211; Julie needed to make a decision &#8211; would she listen to her inner critic or her inner mentor? She needed to be bold with her business and move confidently into the next phase by taking on a small loan &#8211; would she be able to? Thankfully, Julie was able to move past her doubts and instead chose to bank on herself. Guess what? It was a good choice! Learn more about Julie’s fascinating story by tuning into this episode!</p>
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<h2>Know your worth</h2>
<p>Does your business have the right pricing plan in place? Are you on the lower end of the scale in your industry, the high end, or somewhere between the two? How did you land on the price you’ve placed on your product or service? The truth is, most women are terrible at setting the right price for their business. Do you want to know the secret to pricing your business appropriately?</p>
<p><strong>It all comes down to public perception</strong>. If you believe that your business offers a great market solution, price it near the top of your industry alongside your competitors! When you price aggressively like that, you send a message to your customers that your business deserves to be in the same conversation as your top competitors. Learn more about knowing your worth and setting the right price from Julie’s expert perspective by listening to this episode—you don’t want to miss it!</p>
<h2>Prepare for your exit</h2>
<p>If you’ve laid the best foundation for growth and your business has succeeded against all the odds, the next phase is preparing to exit. It sounds crazy, but part of building a business you can be proud of is preparing for your exit. Some of you might want to stay on in some capacity after you are ready to hand off day-to-day operations, but you’ve got to start planning now. Don’t leave it for the last minute. Start planning for a future where you are watching your business thrive without you!</p>
<p>Imagine that future: You can travel or move on to the next thing you’ve been dying to do. The businesses that go the distance are the ones where smart decisions are made early and often. Let that be the story of your business! Julie says that you only know what you are growing if you know how you are leaving. Hear Julie unpack what a well-thought-out exit looks like by listening to this helpful episode.</p>
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<h2>Notes + Links from Today’s Show</h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.taramohr.com/the-playing-big-book/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Playing Big Book &#8211; TARA MOHR</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Thing-About-Things-Building/dp/0062273205" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Hard Thing About Hard Things</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wearethatfamily.com/the-mercy-house/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Mercy House &#8211; Kristen Welch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://slack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Slack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Figuring-Maria-Popova/dp/1524748137" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Figuring</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dare-Lead-Brave-Conversations-Hearts/dp/0399592520" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dare to Lead: Brave Work. Tough Conversations. Whole Hearts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://brenebrown.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brené Brown</a></li>
<li><a href="https://131method.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chalene Johnson&#8217;s 131 Method | Be Healthy, Happy, + Confident‎</a></li>
<li><a href="https://homeschoolon.com/about-me/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rebecca Spooner from Homeschool On</a></li>
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<h2>Connect with Julie Bogart</h2>
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<li><a href="https://bravewriter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Brave Writer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://thebravelearner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Brave Learner</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNemB4-I94oNOAmAgQ68Usg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brave Writer &#8211; YouTube</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/BraveWriter?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Julie on Twitter</a></li>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[026: How to Create a Thriving Online Community with Tonya Kubo]]></title>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What does it take to bring people together from around the world into an online community? How do you keep the group valuable and engaging? What common mistakes should you avoid? Thankfully, we’ve got an expert in Tonya Kubo who is willing to take on all these questions and more! In our conversation—Tonya opens up [&#8230;]</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/create-a-thriving-online-community-with-tonya-kubo/"><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What does it take to </span><b>bring people together</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> from around the world into an online community? How do you keep the group valuable and engaging? What common mistakes should you avoid? Thankfully, we’ve got an expert in Tonya Kubo who is willing to take on all these questions and more! </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In our conversation—Tonya opens up about how she got started with online communities, the difference between a paid and free group, how to create good group culture, common mistakes to avoid, and much more. I am thrilled to bring you Tonya’s powerful insights—have pen and paper ready—you are going to need them! </span></p>
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<h2><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this episode, listen for</span></h2>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[1:22] I welcome my guest, Tonya Kubo.  </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[2:45] Tonya talks about her passion for building communities. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[7:10] What is going on with the shift to “groups,” “pages,” and “forums?”  </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[10:30] The difference between a free group and a paid group? </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[13:30] How Tonya defines culture inside an online community. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[15:30] What constitutes “good” group culture? </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[18:00] Is creating a Facebook group right for you? </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[23:00] Common mistakes people make when creating an online community. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[26:30] Creating an online community from scratch. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[31:30] How do you come up with consistent content for your community? </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[33:45] Is there a way to make your content stand out? </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[37:00] Successful online communities that you should check out. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[39:40] Tonya enters the Lightning Round; rapid-fire questions. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[49:45] Closing thoughts.</span></li>
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<h2><span style="font-weight: 400;">Creating an online community from scratch</span></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">If you were to create an online community tomorrow, where would you start? Do you need a ton of people when you launch? What if nobody shows up? I know those questions can loom large in your mind, but the truth is, they aren’t as important as you might think! </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In my conversation with Tonya, she revealed that she recently launched a Facebook group with ONLY FIVE people signed up—watch out the floodgates are open! Is Tonya discouraged by the initial number of people in her group? No! </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tonya has embraced the mindset that you’ll need for your online community to THRIVE—treat those early adopters like GOLD. The folks who join your group early on are your true fans—they want what you are selling. They’ve joined your group because they believe in what you are doing and the value you are providing. It’s your job to go out of your way to make them FEEL valued and part of something special—once you do that word will spread. </span></p>
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<h2><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why your group culture matters</span></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Anywhere people gather—whether online or IRL—culture will start to form. Sometimes that culture is negative and toxic and other times that culture is positive and rewarding. What can you do to make sure the group culture of your online community is helpful rather than harmful? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">According to Tonya, the best feature of good community culture is safety. That might sound basic and plain to many people, but the truth is—your group will never grow if people don’t feel safe. Is it safe for people to disagree or have opposing viewpoints in your group? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Be prepared; it can take a lot of effort to build your online community in the beginning. You’ll feel like you are living in the group you’ve started and you might feel like you’ll never leave—trust me—you will. Don’t just take my word for it! Tonya has a ton of experience building these groups, and she has found that all that initial effort up front pays off! Learn more from Tonya’s compelling perspective by listening to our full conversation on this episode. </span></p>
<h2><span style="font-weight: 400;">Common mistakes to avoid</span></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I get it—whenever you start something new there are a TON of variables that can cause you to feel overwhelmed. What if there was a way to remove some of your concerns about starting an online community? I’ve asked Tonya to walk us through several common mistakes that leaders like you can AVOID when you go to start your first online community. </span></p>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Don’t try to appeal to EVERYBODY. Finding a niche audience is a good thing!</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Aim for active engagement from 50% of your group or more each month. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Spend your time cultivating relationships with folks that show up. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Make it easy to join the group and get plugged in. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Start your group for the right reasons. Don’t get locked in on a number! </span></li>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">These are just a few of the common mistakes people make when they go to start their online community. Tonya has SO much more valuable information to share, and I don’t want you to miss a minute of it!</span></p>
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<h2><span style="font-weight: 400;">Notes + Links from Today’s Show</span></h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pumpkin-Plan-Strategy-Remarkable-Business/dp/1591844886" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Pumpkin Plan</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.loom.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Loom | Free Screen &amp; Video Recording Software</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Profit-First-Transform-Cash-Eating-Money-Making/dp/073521414X" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Profit First</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Subscribed-Subscription-Model-Companys-Future-ebook/dp/B078GCWL9D/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=subscribed&amp;qid=1557785480&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Subscribed</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.communicatoracademy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Communicator Academy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kathilipp.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kathi Lipp</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tarzankay.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tarzan Kay</a></li>
<li><a href="https://socialcurator.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Social Curators with Jasmine Star</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bizmavens.com/community/index.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Forums &#8211; Biz Maven Circle &#8211; Biz Mavens</a></li>
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<h2><span style="font-weight: 400;">Connect with Tonya Kubo</span></h2>
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<li>Info[at]tonyakubo.com</li>
<li><a href="http://www.tonyakubo.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tonya&#8217;s website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/STTOC/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tonya Kubo&#8217;s The Secret to Thriving Online Communities</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/AuthorTonyaKubo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tonya on Facebook</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/tonyakubo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tonya on Twitter</a></li>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[025: How to Cut Through Distractions and Get Work Done with Tricia Goyer]]></title>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever struggle with the hustle and bustle of day-to-day life that you fail to get work done? Maybe for you, it’s the responsibilities of raising kids or taking care of household or the complexities of getting your business off of the ground. Whatever distracts you from getting work done, I’m sure you’d like [&#8230;]</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/work-life-balance/"><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever struggle with the hustle and bustle of day-to-day life that you fail to get work done? Maybe for you, it’s the responsibilities of raising kids or taking care of household or the complexities of getting your business off of the ground.</p>
<p>Whatever distracts you from getting work done, I’m sure you’d like to have some solutions. Good news! Tricia Goyer is here to walk you through her life as a writer and provide some helpful tips about navigating family life, homeschooling, work responsibilities, and everything in between. Have pen and paper ready; you don’t want to miss a minute of this helpful episode!</p>
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<h2>In this episode, listen for</h2>
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<li>[1:20] I introduce my guest, Tricia Goyer.</li>
<li>[2:45] Tricia talks about her beautiful family.</li>
<li>[5:30] How did Tricia get started as a writer? What was it like with a large family?</li>
<li>[13:20] Tricia reveals her tips for balancing work and family life.</li>
<li>[20:20] How does Tricia avoid playing the comparison game?</li>
<li>[24:00] Tricia talks about how writing has informed her role as a parent.</li>
<li>[26:30] Dealing with reader feedback and reviews.</li>
<li>[30:15] Creating a routine and navigating life as a writer and homeschool educator.</li>
<li>[36:00] Managing a deadline.</li>
<li>[38:45] How a routine can help set you up for success.</li>
<li>[42:00] Tricia enters the Lightning Round; rapid-fire questions.</li>
<li>[54:00] Little steps add up.</li>
<li>[55:40] Closing thoughts.</li>
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<h2>Navigating work-life balance.</h2>
<p>I get it; building a business from the ground up is hard work. It can be exponentially harder to build that business with little ones under-foot! What can you do? How do you get work done and still care for your family? Tricia Goyer keeps things real and doesn’t put a pretty spin on the struggle; she is open and honest about the challenges of building a career while raising children. In our conversation, Tricia offered these helpful tips for staying on task.</p>
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<li>Set up a two-hour block of time where you can work uninterrupted.</li>
<li>Be completely present and attentive when you are not working.</li>
<li>Try getting up early to work for an hour or two while everyone is asleep.</li>
<li>Communicate your goals and achievements with your family.</li>
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<p>Do you plan on trying any of these tips from Tricia? What methods have worked for you and your family? To hear Tricia expand on these tips and more, make sure to tune in to this informative episode!</p>
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<h2>Don’t fall for the comparison game!</h2>
<p>Are you familiar with the comparison game? Have you ever been stuck in it before? Far too many people get caught up in the comparison game, always looking at what their neighbour has or what their peers have accomplished compared to what they’ve been able to do. How do you avoid getting caught up with comparing yourself, your family, or your business to others?</p>
<p>For Tricia Goyer, it all comes down to getting her priorities straight. Is she working her tail off and providing for her family? Is taking the time to connect with and care for her children? If the work gets done and the kids get loved, the rest seems less important. Before you think that Tricia just lets everything go in her home, you should know, that she also works to get everyone involved with the daily tasks of keeping the house in order. What system works for your family?</p>
<h2>Little steps add up.</h2>
<p>From navigating work-life balance to avoiding the comparison game, it seems like there is hardly any time to get work done! If you struggle to find the time and keep all the plates in your world spinning, you aren’t alone. Tricia Goyer encourages women like you to focus on what you can do each day instead of what you can’t get to.</p>
<p>Don’t let what you CAN’T do distract you from completing what you CAN do. If you can only get an hour in today, that’s OK! What task can you cross off of your to-do list today? Set yourself up for success and take those little steps in the right direction. Doing something, even if it is a little step is better than nothing! Learn more from Tricia’s inspiring story and her expert perspective on how to get work done by listening to this episode!</p>
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<h2>Notes + Links from Today’s Show</h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.canva.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Canva</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended-ebook/dp/B014DUR7L2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Never Split the Difference</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jamieivey.com/tag/the-happy-hour-podcast" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Happy Hour Podcast &#8211; Jamie Ivey</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcast.jennakutcher.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Goal Digger Podcast &#8211; Jenna Kutcher</a></li>
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<h2>Connect with Tricia Goyer</h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.triciagoyer.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tricia’s website</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/authortriciagoyer/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tricia on Facebook</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/triciagoyer" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tricia on Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/triciagoyer/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tricia on Instagram</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.writethatbook.club" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.writethatbook.club</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Walk-Out-Radical-Result-Living/dp/1434710998" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Walk It Out: The Radical Result of Living God’s Word One Step at a Time</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.christianbook.com/calming-angry-help-hope-parents-whirlwind/9781434711007/pd/4711007#CBD-PD-Publisher-Description" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Calming Angry Kids: Help and Hope for Parents in the Whirlwind</a></li>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[024: How To Run a Pilot Program for a Stronger Online Course, with Brandice Lardner &#038; Shannon Clark]]></title>
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		<updated>2020-01-01T21:33:06Z</updated>
		<published>2019-03-26T11:50:56Z</published>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What would it look like for you to create a course based on the content and focus of your brand? Have you considered taking this step but find yourself at a loss as to where to start? Good news! I want to introduce you to two women who were brave enough to put themselves out [&#8230;]</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/pilot-programs/"><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What would it look like for you to </span><b>create a course</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> based on the content and focus of your brand? Have you considered taking this step but </span>find yourself <b>at a loss as to where to start?</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Good news! I want to introduce you to two women who were brave enough to put themselves out there with their content, Brandice Lardner and Shannon Clark. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">In our conversation, Brandice and Shannon open up about the communities they’ve built online, why it’s helpful to start with a test or pilot program, how to get people interested in your test program, why it’s important to gather and listen to feedback, how to adopt a long-term mindset, and much more. I can’t wait for you to learn from the wonderful insights these women have to share! </span></p>
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<h2>In this episode, listen for</h2>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[1:00] I welcome my guests, Brandice Lardner and Shannon Clark</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[3:00] Brandice talks about her online program, Find Your Grace Filled Plate. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[5:15] Shannon talks about her online program, Budget Breakthrough. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[8:00] Why starting with a Beta program can be helpful</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[12:00] How did Brandice Shannon get people to take a chance on a new program? </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[14:30] Feedback can be very constructive. Are you asking for it? </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[17:30] You’ve got to adopt a long-term mindset if you want to succeed. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[21:00] What does building relationships with your customers look like? </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[25:00] Lessons learned from running a pilot program</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[30:00] Making plans to scale your business</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[32:15] Brandice and Shannon enter the Lightning Round; rapid-fire questions. </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">[42:15] Closing thoughts from Brandice and Shannon</span></li>
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<h2>What are you waiting for? Create a course!</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I know what you’re thinking—who has the time to create a course? I won’t sugarcoat it: It’s not going to be easy, but it will be worth it! Here is the good news: you don’t have to have it all figured out and polished to get started. You can follow a similar path that Brandice and Shannon took by reaching out to your followers to see if they’d like to participate in a pilot program. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">The advantage of launching a pilot program instead of launching a full-blown course is that you get to learn and adapt your content to your audience&#8217;s needs as you go through the material. The critical piece of launching a pilot program is to proactively gather feedback and learn from the people who were willing to be your test subjects. </span></p>
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<h2><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>Don’t ignore feedback—lean in.</strong> </span></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">If you want your message and your content to resonate with your audience, you need to listen to them. I’m not saying that every comment or piece of feedback is created equal. Some people are just mean or trolling, and they aren’t worth your time. When you create a pilot program and invite a select group from your audience to participate, though, you’ve got a group who loves your message and wants you to succeed. Seize this opportunity to learn from them! </span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Don’t let yourself get defensive or combative. Embrace the feedback, find a way to learn from it, and move on. When your audience sees that you care about their feedback and you adapt your approach accordingly, you’ll win their loyalty. </span></p>
<h2>Why you need to adopt a long-term mindset</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">When you create a course for your audience, you’re investing in the long-term success of your brand and platform. If you want to diversify your options, creating a course is a worthwhile investment. Your regularly scheduled content will keep people visiting your site, but it’s projects like courses and programs that will turn followers to fans. Once you’ve turned a significant number of your passive followers into fans, then your brand will be unstoppable. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"><br />
</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">To hear more about embracing a long-term mindset and what it takes to create a course, make sure to catch my full conversation with Brandice and Shannon on this episode. You don’t want to miss it!</span></p>
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<h2>Notes + Links from Today’s Show</h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.livechatinc.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Live Chat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bombbomb.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">BombBomb</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.useloom.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Loom</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Having-Mary-Heart-Martha-World/dp/1578562589" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Having a Mary Heart in a Martha World</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Customer-Creating-Subscription-Business/dp/159184746X" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Automatic Customer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theshortyearsbooks.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Short Years</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sortaawesomeshow.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sorta Awesome Show</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nowthaticando.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Frump Fighters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://stickyblogging.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sticky Blogging</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fit2b.us/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Fit2B Studio</a></li>
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<h2>Connect with Brandice Lardner and Shannon Clark</h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.gracefilledplate.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brandice Lardner &#8211; Grace Filled Plate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://growingslower.com/category/affording-motherhood/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Shannon Clark &#8211; Affording Motherhood</a></li>
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<h2><a href="https://www.bizmavens.com/contact/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Connect With Jeni</a></h2>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[023: How To Expand Your Platform by Writing a Book, with Natalie Hoffman]]></title>
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		<id>https://www.bizmavens.com/?p=4077</id>
		<updated>2020-01-01T21:33:06Z</updated>
		<published>2019-02-26T13:00:57Z</published>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that writing a book is one of the best ways to expand your platform? CEOs to politicians and everyone in between knows that nothing gives you quite as much exposure and traditional authority as writing a book. But don’t you need to go to school and get a degree in writing (or pay [&#8230;]</p>
<p><a href="https://bizmavens.com/tbm-023-how-to-expand-your-platform-by-writing-a-book-with-natalie-hoffman/">023: How To Expand Your Platform by Writing a Book, with Natalie Hoffman</a> is a post by Jeni B. at <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com">Biz Mavens</a>.</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/tbm-023-how-to-expand-your-platform-by-writing-a-book-with-natalie-hoffman/"><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that <strong>writing a book is one of the best ways to expand your platform</strong>? CEOs to politicians and everyone in between knows that nothing gives you quite as much exposure and traditional authority as writing a book. But don’t you need to go to school and get a degree in writing (or pay someone who has) before you take that step? According to my returning guest, Natalie Hoffman, the answer is NO!</p>
<p>In our conversation, Natalie talks about her ministry and business, “Flying Free,” what led her to write her book, the formula I shared with her for writing a book, how writing her book has expanded her platform, and much more. I can’t wait for you to learn from Natalie’s amazing example. Make sure you have pen and paper ready—you don’t want to miss a thing!</p>
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<h2>In this episode, listen for</h2>
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<li>[0:47] Natalie Hoffman talks about her work with “Flying Free.”</li>
<li>[3:10] What led Natalie to write her book?</li>
<li>[6:15] Is writing a book the best way to keep your audience engaged?</li>
<li>[9:30] The book writing formula that I shared with Natalie</li>
<li>[12:20] Natalie’s definition of success</li>
<li>[14:00] The advantage that a published book gives you</li>
<li>[17:00] Why write another book on surviving abuse?</li>
<li>[20:00] How Natalie incorporated her community into her book</li>
<li>[22:45] Did people still buy Natalie’s book even though she gave it away for free or discounted?</li>
<li>[24:45] What surprised Natalie about the writing process?</li>
<li>[26:50] Natalie’s advice for women who want to write a book</li>
<li>[30:30] How writing a book fits into Natalie’s business strategy</li>
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<h2>Can writing a book really expand your platform?</h2>
<p>If you find yourself in the camp that is skeptical of the weight or significance of writing a book, go ahead and Google “Book tours.” If you do, you’ll find a large return on your search! Yes, even in today’s digital world, people still show up for book tours. Unfortunately, this isn’t a case of the old Field of Dreams line, “If you build it, they will come,” but you can use a book to leverage and expand your platform. Natalie Hoffman is a perfect example, she had built a platform through her work as a life coach, and now she’s expanded that platform with her book, “Is It Me?” One of the most significant advantages of publishing a book is having your material out there in the physical world serving as an ambassador for your brand and your platform.</p>
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<h2>A book writing formula you can use.</h2>
<p>If you&#8217;re inching closer to the possibility of writing a book to expand your platform, a huge question you might have is “Where do I start?” Sure, it would be nice to have the time, space, energy, and resources to write a book&#8230;but who has that in spades? What if there were a formula that you could use that would help you create a framework to write a book? In our conversation, Natalie shares the formula for writing a book in twelve weeks. Here is how you can break it down.</p>
<ul>
<li>Plan to write 10 to 12 chapters.</li>
<li>Each chapter should have 4 to 5 sections of about 1,000 words each.</li>
<li>Formula: Write 1 section a day, 5 days a week that will give you, 1 chapter a week and 12 chapters in 12 weeks.</li>
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<p>While there is certainly nothing magical about this formula, it does give you a helpful starting place and a way to remove some of the mystique that often comes with writing a book.</p>
<h2>You deserve to have your story told!</h2>
<p>While it&#8217;s easier to write a book now than it ever has been in the past, many people (especially women) are hesitant to step out and tell their story. There are many reasons for this including shame, pain, lack resources, just to name a few. While the obstacles are still large, the opportunity is greater! Our world is full of people like Natalie who deserve to have their story told. I know you might be scared to take a bold step as Natalie has, but I believe you have it in you make it happen. If writing a book isn’t your next step, find out what yours is and work toward that.</p>
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<h2>Notes + Links from Today’s Show</h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Bird-Some-Instructions-Writing-Life/dp/0385480016" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bird by Bird</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Style-William-Strunk-Jr/dp/194564401X" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Elements of Style</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Writing-Life-Annie-Dillard/dp/0060919884" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Writing Life</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Writing-10th-Anniversary-Memoir-Craft/dp/1439156816" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">On Writing</a></li>
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<h2>Connect with Natalie Hoffman</h2>
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<li><a href="https://join.flyingfreenow.com/coaching/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Flying Free website</a></li>
<li>Natalie <a href="https://www.facebook.com/flyingfreenow/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">on Facebook</a></li>
<li>Natalie’s book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Your-Confusing-Marriage/dp/1732894302" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Is It Me? Making Sense of Your Confusing Marriage</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bizmavens.com/10xp-008-how-natalie-hoffman-learned-to-meet-a-need-and-build-a-flourishing-group-membership-program/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Episode #8 featuring Natalie’s story</a></li>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[022: THE PIVOT: How To Change Your Business Focus Successfully, with Kat Lee]]></title>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you haven’t heard the term “business pivot” yet, you will. In fact, if you’re just starting your online business efforts you’ll probably find yourself neck-deep in the topic at some point. That’s because none of us start our online journey with our passion fully refined or our dream business fully formed in our minds. [&#8230;]</p>
<p><a href="https://bizmavens.com/022-the-pivot-how-to-change-your-business-focus-successfully-with-kat-lee/">022: THE PIVOT: How To Change Your Business Focus Successfully, with Kat Lee</a> is a post by Jeni B. at <a href="https://www.bizmavens.com">Biz Mavens</a>.</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/022-the-pivot-how-to-change-your-business-focus-successfully-with-kat-lee/"><![CDATA[<p>If you haven’t heard the term “business pivot” yet, you will. In fact, if you’re just starting your online business efforts you’ll probably find yourself neck-deep in the topic at some point. That’s because none of us start our online journey with our passion fully refined or our dream business fully formed in our minds. We ALL figure it out as we go along.</p>
<p>My guest on this episode is Kat Lee and she’s a great example of a woman who has continued to put one foot in front of the other as she’s journeyed down her own often-winding entrepreneurial path. She’s tried tons of things, many of them successfully, but has continued to pivot as needed to move into more fulfilling, more effective iterations of her online business.</p>
<p>Listen to hear Kat share her story, her advice, and her heart. She’s a great lady you’ll really enjoy getting to know.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-4073" src="https://www.bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast.jpg" alt="" width="1200" height="630" srcset="https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast.jpg 1200w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-150x79.jpg 150w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-300x158.jpg 300w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-768x403.jpg 768w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-1024x538.jpg 1024w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-80x42.jpg 80w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-220x116.jpg 220w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-190x100.jpg 190w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-280x147.jpg 280w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-453x238.jpg 453w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-750x394.jpg 750w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-928x487.jpg 928w, https://bizmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kat-Lee-Biz-Mavens-Podcast-1133x595.jpg 1133w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px" /></p>
<h2>In this episode, listen for</h2>
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<li>[0:29] Kat Lee’s first consideration of online business: web design</li>
<li>[3:22] Scaling from one customer to many and working to build a niche approach</li>
<li>[5:40] Starting her own blog from inspiration she gained from an early client</li>
<li>[9:40] Discovering what felt authentic and learning to focus on it</li>
<li>[13:01] What allows Kat to let go of things that have been successful in the past?</li>
<li>[21:38] Leadership: Sourcing help for her business from within her community</li>
<li>[26:31] Trying out a new membership: beta users to help it improve, then the launch</li>
<li>[35:06] The ability to pivot: When is it failure and when is it smart?</li>
<li>[39:33] The lightning round with Kat</li>
<li>[48:50] Advice to those who are fed up and not sure if they want to do their biz anymore</li>
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<h2>Feel free to try things, but be sure what you’re doing resonates with you</h2>
<p>Kat started her online business journey way back in the days when the internet was young. A community college course in web design gave her the basic tools she needed to get started and she was soon rustling up a job reworking the local car dealer’s website. That led to more clients and in time, a realization.</p>
<p>Kat didn’t like working with clients. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>What do you do then? During her website building phase, she had come in contact with a handful of bloggers who were doing things that inspired her on a personal level. So she decided to begin her own blog. LIke all new blogs, it was random and about everything that came into her mind. But Kat refined it as she went, eventually learning to focus on a few areas that she loved.</p>
<p>But she didn’t stop there. Listen to hear the rest of the story &#8211; of how she’s now leading an online membership site that is equipping women to make the most successful start to their mornings possible.</p>
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<h2>Successes build on one another, so don’t be afraid to pivot your business</h2>
<p>One of the things every online business wanna-be learns is that every attempt you make at something new TEACHES you something new. You discover things you like, and things that you hate. All of that is good to know… because it informs you as to which path you should be walking down in your business.</p>
<p>But what if you’ve already put tons of hours into the project you’re working on? Should you still pivot away from it? Those are valid questions and the feeling of potentially wasting all that time and energy can be a compelling motivation to stick it out. But ask yourself a simple question…</p>
<p>“Did you learn something from the experience?”</p>
<p>If so, you didn’t waste a minute you invested in that business idea. You were investing in your own education and creating a broader foundation upon which to build your future success. Join Kat and me as we walk through her lessons-learned together. She’s got lots of them to share.</p>
<h2>When is a business pivot a failure and when is it smart?</h2>
<p>One of the key takeaways from this conversation is a very practical approach Kat has learned when it comes to making business pivot decisions. If you’re asking whether you should stick with something you’ve already begun or decide to make a change, here’s what Kat suggests:</p>
<p>Take out a sheet of paper. Fold it in half. On one side of the fold, write down everything about your current business that drains you. Keep going. Then move to the other side of the fold and write down all the things about your current business direction that fills you up.</p>
<p>Once you are done, look at the sheet. You now know the drainers and fillers in your business. You’ll likely have a lot more clarity and insight into whether it’s a viable and fulfilling business path you should be following.</p>
<p>Don’t miss this episode. Kat is such a great example of being adaptable &#8211; of being willing to pivot in her business as needed. Enjoy!</p>
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<h2>Notes + Links from Today’s Show</h2>
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<li><a href="https://shaungroves.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Shaun Groves</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cru.org/us/en/about/billbright.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bill Bright</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Millard" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bart Millard</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.nataliegrant.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Natalie Grant</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.intoxicatedonlife.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Intoxicated On Life</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bizmavens.com/academy/blog-smarter/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Blog Smarter Online Course</a></li>
<li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Inner-Game-Tennis-Classic-Performance/dp/0679778314" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Inner Game of Tennis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://evernote.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Evernote</a></li>
<li><a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205773" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Apple Note</a></li>
<li><a href="https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/loom-video-recorder-scree/liecbddmkiiihnedobmlmillhodjkdmb" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Loom Chrome Plugin</a></li>
<li>BOOK: <a href="https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Atomic Habits</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amyporterfield.com/amy-porterfield-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Amy Porterfield’s Podcast</a></li>
<li><a href="https://readaloudrevival.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sarah McKenzie</a></li>
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<h2>Connect with Kat Lee</h2>
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<li><a href="http://www.hellomornings.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.HelloMornings.org</a></li>
<li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hello-Mornings-Grace-Filled-Life-Giving-Morning/dp/0718094174" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Hello Mornings Book</a></li>
<li>The <a href="http://inspiredtoaction.com/thepodcast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Inspired to Action Podcast</a></li>
<li>The <a href="http://howtheyblog.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">How They Blog Podcast</a></li>
<li><a href="http://inspiredtoaction.com/ebook/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Maximize Your Mornings eBook</a></li>
<li>The <a href="https://www.hellomornings.org/login/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hello Mornings Academy</a></li>
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<h2><a href="https://www.bizmavens.com/contact/">Connect With Jeni</a></h2>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[021: How A Successful Membership Community Grew From Vanessa Levin’s Passion For Teaching]]></title>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you’ve never considered a membership community as a way to generate recurring, consistent income for your online business, you should consider it. Especially if you are focused on a niche where passion is a primary motivator. Vanessa Levin is passionate about Pre-K education and it was that passion that led her to create a [&#8230;]</p>
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					<content type="html" xml:base="https://bizmavens.com/tbm-021-how-a-successful-membership-community-grew-from-vanessa-levins-passion-for-teaching/"><![CDATA[<p>If you’ve never considered <strong>a membership community</strong> as a way to generate recurring, consistent income for your online business, you should consider it. Especially if you are focused on a niche where <strong>passion is a primary motivator</strong>.</p>
<p>Vanessa Levin is passionate about Pre-K education and it was that passion that led her to create a website that provides resources for Pre-K teachers &#8211; and she started the site way back before blogs weren&#8217;t really even a thing.</p>
<p>As her resources were downloaded more and more, <strong>Vanessa realized she was onto something significant, but she wasn’t exactly sure how to leverage it</strong> to resource teachers even more AND provide a greater amount of income for herself.</p>
<p>This episode shares her story &#8211; and the steps and struggles she’s experienced on the way to creating <strong>an amazingly successful membership community for Pre-K teachers</strong>. This conversation is as practical as it gets, so I hope you listen.</p>
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<h2>In this episode, listen for</h2>
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<li>[0:29] Vanessa’s passion for empowering teachers and how it came about</li>
<li>[4:20] Making the transition from answering questions to offering products</li>
<li>[6:52] The huge shift from full time teachers to resourcing teachers full time</li>
<li>[10:51] How doing “all the things” was a quick path to burnout that she had to address</li>
<li>[14:03] The extremely difficult process of allowing others to write on her blog</li>
<li>[15:49] Making the most of what she already had existing on her website</li>
<li>[17:27] Deciding how to adjust pricing to something fair but profitable</li>
<li>[23:33] How a resistance to membership sites transformed to a love of them</li>
<li>[27:07] Community inside a membership community is better than a Facebook group</li>
<li>[31:56] Vanessa’s new mindset about money and the plans ahead</li>
<li>[35:18] The lightning round!</li>
<li>[45:20] Vanessa’s advice to the woman entrepreneur doing all the things</li>
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<h2>When all you want to do is help is it OK to make money from it?</h2>
<p>There’s a strange feeling we all get when we realize that <strong>money can be made from doing the thing we love</strong>. In Vanessa’s case, the thing she loved was teaching Pre-K children and helping Pre-K teachers teach their students more effectively. That’s why she started a website that provided downloadable resources for teachers.</p>
<p>When it became clear that the questions her website users were repeatedly asking her could be used to create in-depth resources &#8211; and that those resources could be sold for a profit &#8211; Vanessa faced a difficult decision. <strong>Was it OK to charge for something she was overjoyed to provide anyway?</strong></p>
<p>We somehow have the idea that charging money for something we’re passionate about somehow sullies our motives. But Vanessa discovered <strong>that wasn’t true at all</strong>.</p>
<p>She also discovered that teachers are not only willing to pay for helpful resources, but they are also eager to do it. Find out how Vanessa <strong>worked through the struggle and came out on the </strong></p>
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<h2>The journey from full-time teacher to full-time membership community leader</h2>
<p>What is YOUR passion? What is it that you long to add to the world, or to the niche you want to serve? <strong>When you’re passionate about something, it’s hard to imagine not being directly involved in it</strong> &#8211; but that’s exactly what Vanessa chose to do. Let me explain.</p>
<p>Vanessa loved her Pre-K students. She loved teaching them and watching them flourish. But she made the decision to step out of a full-time teaching role. Why? Because she discovered that <strong>she could have a greater impact on the children by not being in the classroom</strong>.</p>
<p>It sounds crazy, but it’s true because Vanessa discovered <strong>the power of leverage</strong>. She was good at equipping passionate Pre-K teachers and facilitating community among them, which enabled her skills, insights, and experience to be multiplied in a way that it increased the effectiveness of many classrooms, not just her own.</p>
<p><strong>Could you do that for your niche</strong>? Is a membership community something that would give you an exponentially larger impact on those you are trying to help? I think it could be just what you’re looking for. Listen to learn more.</p>
<h2>How to run a successful membership community</h2>
<p>Believe it or not, <strong>Vanessa has not always been a fan of membership sites</strong>. Her experience with them in the past simply didn’t provide an appealing impression of what they were all about. But she discovered that the power of a membership site is not the gated content and private resources, it’s in <strong>fostering genuinely helpful community</strong>.</p>
<p>The teachers who invest the time and money to become part of her membership community are the kind of teachers she loves working with. They are passionate &#8211; just like Vanessa &#8211; and do everything they can to help and support each other for the sake of the Pre-K children they all love so dearly.</p>
<p><strong>That’s the main focus of any successful membership community &#8211; relationships</strong>. Your niche could likely use the same infusion of personal care and support, and you could be just the person to provide it for them. Listen to learn more about <strong>the incredible impact a successful membership community can have</strong>.</p>
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<h2>Notes + Links from Today’s Show</h2>
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<li><a href="https://asana.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Asana</a></li>
<li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Miss-Peregrines-Peculiar-Children-Boxed/dp/1594748381" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Miss Peregrine Trilog</a>y</li>
<li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Caroline-Little-Revisited-Sarah-Miller/dp/0062685341" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Caroline</a> &#8211; historical fiction based on Little House On The Prairie</li>
<li><a href="https://www.amyporterfield.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Amy Porterfield</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lindsaympadilla.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dr. Lindsay Padilla</a></li>
</ul>
<h2>Connect with Vanessa Levin</h2>
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<li><a href="https://www.pre-kpages.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.Pre-KPages.com</a> &#8211; Vanessa’s blog</li>
<li>The <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/857123417772525/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pre-K Pages Facebook Group</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theteachingtribe.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Teaching Tribe</a> &#8211; Vanessa’s online membership community</li>
</ul>
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