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		<title>Comment on What is keeping women out of tech? Do you really want to know? by patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just think these articles are so disappointing. 

there are TONS of women in tech. The problem is not even the women in tech will acknowledge it.

Guess I must not be female or in tech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just think these articles are so disappointing. </p>
<p>there are TONS of women in tech. The problem is not even the women in tech will acknowledge it.</p>
<p>Guess I must not be female or in tech.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is keeping women out of tech? Do you really want to know? by @thorfi</title>
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		<dc:creator>@thorfi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sexism is keeping women out of a lot of things, tech included.

It's quite pervasive, and it's not entirely up to women to fix it.  It's up to men in tech to learn about the problem and make sure you're at minimum not getting in the way, and preferably actually helping fix it.

Apart from the geekfeminism.org blog, which is awesome, here is a more general article:

The Do's and Don'ts of Being a Good Ally - http://karnythia.livejournal.com/1387435.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexism is keeping women out of a lot of things, tech included.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite pervasive, and it&#8217;s not entirely up to women to fix it.  It&#8217;s up to men in tech to learn about the problem and make sure you&#8217;re at minimum not getting in the way, and preferably actually helping fix it.</p>
<p>Apart from the geekfeminism.org blog, which is awesome, here is a more general article:</p>
<p>The Do&#8217;s and Don&#8217;ts of Being a Good Ally &#8211; <a href="http://karnythia.livejournal.com/1387435.html" rel="nofollow">http://karnythia.livejournal.com/1387435.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Exclusive: Droid Grabs 1.44% Market Share by Wayno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look. there's no droid phone period without the iphone. Droid is an ok imitation, but you miss the bigger picture by not understanding that apple's software, specifically itunes, app store, etc., is the key to the success of the iphone. After using the iphone since the first day they became available,... i can honestly say that there has never been a device that i have used more regularly and with greater enjoyment than the iphone. it is my internet research tool, my email, my music player, my movie device, my GPS, my poker partner, my phone, and on and on. And a complete pleasure to use every time i pick it up. It has replaced 4 devices that i used to carry with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look. there&#8217;s no droid phone period without the iphone. Droid is an ok imitation, but you miss the bigger picture by not understanding that apple&#8217;s software, specifically itunes, app store, etc., is the key to the success of the iphone. After using the iphone since the first day they became available,&#8230; i can honestly say that there has never been a device that i have used more regularly and with greater enjoyment than the iphone. it is my internet research tool, my email, my music player, my movie device, my GPS, my poker partner, my phone, and on and on. And a complete pleasure to use every time i pick it up. It has replaced 4 devices that i used to carry with me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is keeping women out of tech? Do you really want to know? by Rufita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rufita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like any other male dominated field (e.g., construction, sports), when first starting out, you have to be a brave and tenacious woman to get past the initial shock of a room full of smelly men. 

In Tech, the sheer shock to the senses in a non-stop 72-hour development push is probably enough to turn most woman away. This was near torture for me in my early career, but I got through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like any other male dominated field (e.g., construction, sports), when first starting out, you have to be a brave and tenacious woman to get past the initial shock of a room full of smelly men. </p>
<p>In Tech, the sheer shock to the senses in a non-stop 72-hour development push is probably enough to turn most woman away. This was near torture for me in my early career, but I got through it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What is keeping women out of tech? Do you really want to know? by Ned Dwyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Dwyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As both an entrepreneur and a student (in entrepreneurship at RMIT) I think the problem you're facing with your students is unrelated to any gender divide. 

Starting a business, becoming an entrepreneur is rarely seen as a valid career choice for anyone regardless of their gender. Even within my entrepreneurship course less than 30% of graduates will start their own business in the first 5 years with the remainder seeking corporate positions in innovation.

Are you trying to get more people to pursue entreprenuership (whether tech related or otherwise) or are you trying to get more women to pursue technology-related careers?

There are of examples of great female entrepreneurs working in tech-related fields in Melbourne. For instance iPhone app and web publishing guru Michelle Mathews with her Deck of Secrets. Outside of tech there is Monique Conheady of Flexicar, Maureen Wheeler of Lonely Planet, Carmen of Carmen's Muesli, Kristinna Karlsson of Kikki K.... just to name a few.

There is also a regular meetup for female entrepreneurs in Melbourne (though everyone is more than welcome at the Hive ;) which is organised by Melbourne University student and tech entrepreneur Marita Cheng: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=291347840296

Ned
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As both an entrepreneur and a student (in entrepreneurship at RMIT) I think the problem you&#8217;re facing with your students is unrelated to any gender divide. </p>
<p>Starting a business, becoming an entrepreneur is rarely seen as a valid career choice for anyone regardless of their gender. Even within my entrepreneurship course less than 30% of graduates will start their own business in the first 5 years with the remainder seeking corporate positions in innovation.</p>
<p>Are you trying to get more people to pursue entreprenuership (whether tech related or otherwise) or are you trying to get more women to pursue technology-related careers?</p>
<p>There are of examples of great female entrepreneurs working in tech-related fields in Melbourne. For instance iPhone app and web publishing guru Michelle Mathews with her Deck of Secrets. Outside of tech there is Monique Conheady of Flexicar, Maureen Wheeler of Lonely Planet, Carmen of Carmen&#8217;s Muesli, Kristinna Karlsson of Kikki K&#8230;. just to name a few.</p>
<p>There is also a regular meetup for female entrepreneurs in Melbourne (though everyone is more than welcome at the Hive ;) which is organised by Melbourne University student and tech entrepreneur Marita Cheng: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=291347840296" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=291347840296</a></p>
<p>Ned<br />
@nedwin</p>
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		<title>Comment on Man Gets Virus – Virus Gets Child Porn – Man Almost Gets Jail by Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the issue here is the fact that education is key to not getting viruses, malware, adware, spyware etc.

Look at when iWork 09 came out on the torrents and it had malware in it. In all my years (past 6 yrs without a virus) I have always looked at what I was doing on the internet, if I didn't know why someone sent me a photo or a file in my email I wouldn't open it! The likes of Firefox, Windows7, Mac OS X etc. with their security it can only go so far, it comes down to user education.

Trust me one day Mac users will bitch and complain that they got a virus, then windows users will just shut them down. Don't count your chickens before they are hatched kiddies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the issue here is the fact that education is key to not getting viruses, malware, adware, spyware etc.</p>
<p>Look at when iWork 09 came out on the torrents and it had malware in it. In all my years (past 6 yrs without a virus) I have always looked at what I was doing on the internet, if I didn&#8217;t know why someone sent me a photo or a file in my email I wouldn&#8217;t open it! The likes of Firefox, Windows7, Mac OS X etc. with their security it can only go so far, it comes down to user education.</p>
<p>Trust me one day Mac users will bitch and complain that they got a virus, then windows users will just shut them down. Don&#8217;t count your chickens before they are hatched kiddies!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on What is keeping women out of tech? Do you really want to know? by Nate Cochrane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Cochrane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks to me be less an issue with maths and science and more to do with lack of confidence and business acumen. Perhaps they should spend more time doing MBAs and public speaking than developing web prototypes that will never be put into production?
It takes a very special person to be an entrepreneur and having technical skills is insufficient. There are plenty of outstanding male technicians and mathematicians who would be poor entrepreneurs.
I think you summed up the problem when you said your female students didn't want to pitch.
"My best female students ... are even less likely than their male counterparts to take the leap into startup land."
And I guess its pointless showing how the likes of Lord Byron's daughter, Ada Lovelace (first programmer), Laure Albin-Guillot (developed the modern notion of artistic photography in today's terms a multimedia or new-media pioneer), Grace Murray Hopper(conceived of the "bug"), Pem Gardner (developed TV with her husband, Philo Farnsworth), Marie Curie or any other female technologist has advanced the state of the art down through the ages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me be less an issue with maths and science and more to do with lack of confidence and business acumen. Perhaps they should spend more time doing MBAs and public speaking than developing web prototypes that will never be put into production?<br />
It takes a very special person to be an entrepreneur and having technical skills is insufficient. There are plenty of outstanding male technicians and mathematicians who would be poor entrepreneurs.<br />
I think you summed up the problem when you said your female students didn&#8217;t want to pitch.<br />
&#8220;My best female students &#8230; are even less likely than their male counterparts to take the leap into startup land.&#8221;<br />
And I guess its pointless showing how the likes of Lord Byron&#8217;s daughter, Ada Lovelace (first programmer), Laure Albin-Guillot (developed the modern notion of artistic photography in today&#8217;s terms a multimedia or new-media pioneer), Grace Murray Hopper(conceived of the &#8220;bug&#8221;), Pem Gardner (developed TV with her husband, Philo Farnsworth), Marie Curie or any other female technologist has advanced the state of the art down through the ages?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mobile News Round-up – 11/11/2009 | Textopoly Mobile Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>ak74: Ha ha ha :) MS przyznaje sie do skopiowania Mac | flaker.pl</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] reklama         ak74   przed chwilą    Ha ha ha :) MS przyznaje sie do skopiowania Mac OS w WIndows 7 :) Bo? Bo Mac OS jest lepszy :) Specjalisci wiedza chyba najlepiej?:) ... “One of the things that people say an awful lot about the Apple Mac is that the OS is fantastic, that it’s very graphical and easy to use… What we’ve tried to do with Windows 7 — whether it’s traditional format or in a touch format — is create a Mac look and feel in terms of graphics.”...thenextweb.com/...1/11/microsoft-admit-copi... [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on 64% of people still buy CDs! by renaissance chambara alias Ged Carroll - Links of the day</title>
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		<dc:creator>renaissance chambara alias Ged Carroll - Links of the day</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on What is keeping women out of technology? by Boris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by Kate. With that kind of passion I'm not worried about you as a women in technology at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by Kate. With that kind of passion I&#8217;m not worried about you as a women in technology at all.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris,

I don't care how many companies your girlfriend owns or how many daughters you have.  Your comments, especially the one about "the phone in the damn purse" are still very misguided.

Although there are some women in tech, it still remains a boys club where women's ideas are not valued as much as men's are. I will never forget seeing a tweet from an attendee 
(@rafe)at Demo 09 that said,  "The TotalTrainer presenters at #Demo09 scare me. Those muscles don't belong at Demo."  Come the f#$%# on, dude, there are so many male tech nerds who have no social skills and probably didn't get laid until they were 30 who now seem to think they have all this power because of the damn "web 2.0 revolution", and social media just magnifies their stupidity.

There.  How's that for a comment from a woman!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care how many companies your girlfriend owns or how many daughters you have.  Your comments, especially the one about &#8220;the phone in the damn purse&#8221; are still very misguided.</p>
<p>Although there are some women in tech, it still remains a boys club where women&#8217;s ideas are not valued as much as men&#8217;s are. I will never forget seeing a tweet from an attendee<br />
(@rafe)at Demo 09 that said,  &#8220;The TotalTrainer presenters at #Demo09 scare me. Those muscles don&#8217;t belong at Demo.&#8221;  Come the f#$%# on, dude, there are so many male tech nerds who have no social skills and probably didn&#8217;t get laid until they were 30 who now seem to think they have all this power because of the damn &#8220;web 2.0 revolution&#8221;, and social media just magnifies their stupidity.</p>
<p>There.  How&#8217;s that for a comment from a woman!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Henchan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look (and vote) at the ongoing debate at the Economist. Initial debaters are Microsoft vs. Salesforce. http://www.economist.com/debate/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look (and vote) at the ongoing debate at the Economist. Initial debaters are Microsoft vs. Salesforce. <a href="http://www.economist.com/debate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/debate/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get a eruo version of the droid an you can put it on att it's not called the droid in europe though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get a eruo version of the droid an you can put it on att it&#8217;s not called the droid in europe though</p>
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		<title>Comment on Exclusive: Droid Grabs 1.44% Market Share by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get the droid for att if you buy an unlocked euro version that has umts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get the droid for att if you buy an unlocked euro version that has umts</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Microsoft admits: Apple is great, we copied OSX -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Did Google Steal The Name “go” For Its Programming Language? by Christopher G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'go' is a natural fit for the company, name-wise.  They didn't even need to steal it.  And speaking of fit, it should be survival of the fittest... The best language should get to keep the name.  That's how it will happen anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;go&#8217; is a natural fit for the company, name-wise.  They didn&#8217;t even need to steal it.  And speaking of fit, it should be survival of the fittest&#8230; The best language should get to keep the name.  That&#8217;s how it will happen anyway.</p>
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