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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" media="screen" href="/~d/styles/atom10full.xsl"?><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" media="screen" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~d/styles/itemcontent.css"?><feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:feedburner="http://rssnamespace.org/feedburner/ext/1.0" gd:etag="W/&quot;Ak8ASXo_fyp7ImA9WxBSGEw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214</id><updated>2009-12-26T03:14:08.447-06:00</updated><title>a Theology of Nuance</title><subtitle type="html">While Considering God and man</subtitle><link rel="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/" /><link rel="next" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25&amp;redirect=false&amp;v=2" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email></author><generator version="7.00" uri="http://www.blogger.com">Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>82</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheologyOfNuance" /><feedburner:info uri="theologyofnuance" /><atom10:link xmlns:atom10="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/" /><thespringbox:skin xmlns:thespringbox="http://www.thespringbox.com/dtds/thespringbox-1.0.dtd">http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheologyOfNuance?format=skin</thespringbox:skin><link rel="license" type="text/html" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/" /><logo>http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.gif</logo><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkcAR30zeCp7ImA9WxNRGEw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-5824162903532074575</id><published>2009-09-12T22:21:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-12T22:54:06.380-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-09-12T22:54:06.380-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="thoughtaudio" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="pinch" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="philosophy" /><title>YIN YANG</title><content type="html">&lt;!--DWLayoutTable--&gt;                      &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2009/09/yin-yang.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Times New Roman,Times,serif;font-size:180%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;img src="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/yinyang.jpg" align="left" height="200" hspace="10" vspace="10" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;             &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Text-Head"&gt;(AS ORIGINALLY POSTED On &lt;a href="http://thoughtaudio.com/"&gt;ThoughtAudio.com&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Text-Head"&gt;Edition #0002&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Text-Head"&gt;               &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Text-Head2"&gt;A Philosophical Pinch&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Text-small"&gt; BY: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;        &lt;span class="RegularNospread"&gt;D.S. Martin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;             &lt;p class="RegularNospread"&gt;&lt;span class="SecondaryHead"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;YIN                YANG &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;        It is fair to note that what has been termed a Theology of Nuance                is not too unlike the yin yang of Eastern spiritual philosophies.                At this point one might also consider &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Merton" target="_blank"&gt;Thomas                Merton&lt;/a&gt;’s writings. He was &lt;a href="http://www.therealmerton.com/tommie5.html" target="_blank"&gt;criticized&lt;/a&gt;                for his acceptance of a &lt;a href="http://www.thomasmertonsociety.org/wu.htm" target="_blank"&gt;Zen                Buddhist philosophy&lt;/a&gt; in his later years. (Possibly we can discuss                Merton’s contributions to nuance theology in a future post.)&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        &lt;img src="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/ThomasMerton.gif" alt="Thomas Merton" align="left" height="175" hspace="10" width="131" /&gt;Nevertheless,                nuance theology is being observed in our 21st Century quantum mechanics;                much to the annoyance of the many scientists, who’ve married                their minds to Ontological Naturalism.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        Ontological Naturalism has become the post-modern catholic (universal)                equivalent, with scientists acting as the priesthood. You might                want to peruse this story from the May 5, 2009 edition of The Wall                Street Journal, &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124147752556985009.html" target="_blank"&gt;Science,                Spirituality, and Some Mismatched Socks; Researchers Turn Up Evidence                of 'Spooky' Quantum Behavior and Put It to Work in Encryption and                Philosophy&lt;/a&gt;, be sure to read some of the editorial comments of                priestly scientists. These men &amp;amp; women often impugn the “foolish”                presumptions from the simple-minded laity who live and worship within                the religion of catholic Ontological Naturalism.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        &lt;img src="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/science.gif" align="right" height="130" hspace="10" width="130" /&gt;                YouTube has many secular humanists/naturalists that place their                faith in "scientific knowledge". I enjoy challenging these,                as well as other religious dogmata. This is the best way for one                to truly learn and grow (DSM’s growth, as well as the growth                of others is an important goal).&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        Fortunately, challenging religious dogma is also, the surest way                of being ostracized by the dogmatists on every side of the many                “discussions” of faith and knowledge.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        Often times, especially on YouTube, these dialogues are like a reverse/perverse                two-way mirror for either side.&lt;/p&gt;             &lt;blockquote&gt;                &lt;p class="RegularNospread"&gt;&lt;img src="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/yin.gif" alt="Yin" align="left" height="80" hspace="10" vspace="10" width="75" /&gt;YIN:                  We have the “Christened” (or soiled) and confirmed                  materialist, who can see only the caricature of the Fundamentalist                  Creationist. The Material-Man will set out to defend the Holy                  Word of Darwin (On the Origin of Species) and the religion of                  Ontological Naturalism, against the perceived heretical doctrine                  of hope for a dead grandma (resurrection).&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;          &lt;img src="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/yang.gif" alt="Yang" align="left" height="80" hspace="10" vspace="10" width="75" /&gt;YANG:                  And then there is the “soiled” (or Christened) and                  confirmed Fundamentalist Creationist, who can see only the caricature                  of the Hedonist Atheist. And he will set out to defend the Holy                  Word of God (The Bible) and the religion of Republican Fundamentalism,                  against the perceived heretical doctrine of hope for a dead planet                  (global-warming). &lt;/p&gt;               &lt;/blockquote&gt;             &lt;p class="RegularNospread"&gt;The two dogmata above are both caricatures,                DSM apologizes for the hyperbole. However, he’s taken part                in some of these “dialogues”, and the above hyperbole                is not hyper in all cases. &lt;img src="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/debate.gif" align="left" height="150" hspace="10" vspace="10" width="226" /&gt;Sometimes                the scenario above would be better described as hypobole, because                at times these dogmatic debates spiral into philosophical bloodbaths.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        But, when both sides are willing to really stop and see the individual                in the reverse/perverse two-way mirror, not as external enemy, but                rather, as an internal fear; then we may truly begin to understand                the Truth of the golden rule.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        Often times these online venues turn into charnels of once noble,                but now dead &amp;amp; forgotten aspirations.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        &lt;img src="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/bone.gif" align="right" height="100" hspace="10" width="121" /&gt;Here,                at ThoughtAudio.com and with A Philosophical Pinch, we will endeavor                to reanimate the bones we find in the charnels of knowledge. We                will venture to put muscle and sinew back where it belongs, in lieu                of the opposite, which you may find at countless other online debate                shops. We have liberty to think and grow.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        Thought is limited…, but only by the inaction of those who                think, and then fail to enact.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;        DSM&lt;br /&gt;        p.s. Have you heard the one about the “Fundie” and the                “Hedonist”…?&lt;/p&gt;                  &lt;a href="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/fundie.html"&gt;No, I haven't heard that one.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-5824162903532074575?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="related" href="http://thoughtaudio.com/indies/DSMartin/introduction.html" title="YIN YANG" /><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/5824162903532074575/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=5824162903532074575&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/5824162903532074575?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/5824162903532074575?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/_Uanj31_efw/yin-yang.html" title="YIN YANG" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2009/09/yin-yang.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0IHQHYzfCp7ImA9WxJUEUw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-961530004890091409</id><published>2009-07-08T23:18:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-08T23:58:51.884-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2009-07-08T23:58:51.884-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Idolatry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Cross" /><title>A test &amp; challenge for David Martin</title><content type="html">&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/SlV2f3KmkQI/AAAAAAAAAcc/-mCCEjK32XQ/s1600-h/default.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 130px; height: 97px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/SlV2f3KmkQI/AAAAAAAAAcc/-mCCEjK32XQ/s400/default.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5356317621583515906" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;This is a proclamation of a challenge that David Martin has accepted. David is the author of this blog as well as several others.  He also maintains three youtube channels, a Myspace page and a facebook page.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Based on the past 2+ years (probably closer to forty-four years) of futility, David has taken a challenge which is somewhat personal, but, also comes as the result of some pointed observations this evening, which were made by his wife, Molly Martin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;The challenge is to simply sacrifice &lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(102, 51, 51);"&gt;I, me, &amp;amp; my&lt;/span&gt;; from and in his daily life. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David has not been active in anything that had previously drawn him into passion or joy, since some painful events occurred.  The events were taken personally by David, and he attempted to kill pain by killing passion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the words spoken by Molly tonight, have exposed an interesting link in David's acquiring futility and his personal (aka selfish) will.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, as David goes forward in his life &amp;amp; business, he will attempt to do so without the assertion of first-person pronouns and/or personal will.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Martin is not attempting to make a law or rule that will prohibit the first-person. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nevertheless, until he is confident that he has given control of self to the true I AM, he will tenaciously avoid the offensive pronouns and abdicate authority to Jesus Christ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We shall see if I AM LORD or if he is lord (you can figure that last line out.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DSM&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-961530004890091409?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/961530004890091409/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=961530004890091409&amp;isPopup=true" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/961530004890091409?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/961530004890091409?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/UkomIuw2dyI/test-challenge-for-david-martin.html" title="A test &amp; challenge for David Martin" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/SlV2f3KmkQI/AAAAAAAAAcc/-mCCEjK32XQ/s72-c/default.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2009/07/test-challenge-for-david-martin.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CU4FQnY-fyp7ImA9WxRVGU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-2667766936154884856</id><published>2008-09-02T22:45:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-11-17T08:58:33.857-06:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-11-17T08:58:33.857-06:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Symbology" /><title>Thoughts on Pan's Labyrinth</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://www.panslabyrinth.com/"&gt;&lt;img class="alignleft" style="border: 5px solid black; margin: 2px; float: left;" src="http://www.knowmansoul.com/wp-content/uploads/pansver4.jpg" alt="PansLabyrinth by Guillermo del Toro" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(I have attempted to not include any spoilers, for any who have not yet seen this movie.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[A word of caution about this movie, I did not like the graphic depiction of violence in two or three of the scenes.  So, a word to the wise...]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I relate to the two adults who Ofelia trusts, the mother and the lady concierge, Mercedes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each of these central caretakers for Ofelia, tell her that when she is older (and ostensibly wiser) she will become as they are, i.e. pragmatic &amp;amp; utilitarian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When maturity comes, Ofelia must give-up her hope, dreams and belief in "fairy tales".&lt;br /&gt;This should be juxtaposed to Jesus' words in Mt 18:3-6&lt;br /&gt;"and said, &lt;span style="color:red;"&gt; "Most certainly I tell you, unless you turn, and become as little children, you will in no way enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. &lt;/span&gt;  [4] &lt;span style="color:red;"&gt; Whoever therefore humbles himself as this little child, the same is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven. &lt;/span&gt;  [5] &lt;span style="color:red;"&gt; Whoever receives one such little child in my name receives me, &lt;/span&gt;  [6] &lt;span style="color:red;"&gt; but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;   &lt;/p&gt; This also would be a motivation to never seek to "mature".&lt;br /&gt;Why would Ofelia have any desire to become, either;&lt;br /&gt;1. The lover to a demon, as her mother had chosen&lt;br /&gt;2. Or, the concierge and lead housemaid to satan’s instrument of pain, as Mercedes had chosen?&lt;br /&gt;There is a particular scene when Ofelia's mother finds out that she has placed a mandrake under the her bed?&lt;br /&gt;The mother is very pointed about the need for Ofelia to give up hope, and then she threw the mandrake (hope) into the fire.&lt;br /&gt;I think the fire symbolizes satan's domain (aka hell), the mandrake represents the growing hope that is inside of both, the mother and Ofelia.&lt;br /&gt;The mother attempts to kill Ofelia's hope by destroying the mandrake, however, she, in-fact, only kills her own hope &amp;amp; dreams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would hope threaten the mother's reality? I don't know.&lt;br /&gt;Or maybe, Ofelia's hope represented an indictment of the mother's compromises.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, it challenges me to consider what I demand of my kids.  How much hope, of my children, should I be willing to incinerate, so that they are well grounded in reality?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I struggle with some of the concepts.&lt;br /&gt;There is a frightening aspect of children choosing "the hope" of death, rather than the corresponding "hopelessness of life."&lt;br /&gt;But, I feel the correlation and it bothers me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It disturbs me that the life that Ofelia is promised by the faun, appears to have such a strong resemblance to death.&lt;br /&gt;Why does life resemble death?&lt;br /&gt;And the reason that this question is relevant is because it is inherent to the biblical narrative.&lt;br /&gt;The concept, "Life is death and death is life", is at the very core of Christ's passion.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-2667766936154884856?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/2667766936154884856/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=2667766936154884856&amp;isPopup=true" title="0 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/2667766936154884856?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/2667766936154884856?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/NUe7y9RElw4/thoughts-on-pans-labyrinth.html" title="Thoughts on Pan's Labyrinth" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">0</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2008/09/thoughts-on-pans-labyrinth.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkQARn0_eSp7ImA9WxdaFEg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-1615654615009518121</id><published>2008-08-22T21:11:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-22T21:25:47.341-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-08-22T21:25:47.341-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Trinity" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sin" /><title>Unforgiveable</title><content type="html">&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/SK90t9EJxEI/AAAAAAAAATI/cWaffxefthU/s1600-h/pard.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/SK90t9EJxEI/AAAAAAAAATI/cWaffxefthU/s200/pard.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5237533224490091586" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial;font-size:85%;" &gt;The Trinity issue is extremely important for disciples of Jesus to understand. I am afraid that too many believers in Jesus’ divinity, don’t understand &lt;i&gt;what exactly,&lt;/i&gt; they believe. It is daunting to sit down with a Muslim, who is vehemently monotheistic, and explain how One God equates to a Father, Holy Spirit, and Son. The confusion for the Muslim is usually magnified by the power of three, in the disciple of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The nature of the three individuals of God, also explains another issue for which most Christians are uncomfortable in discussing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The fact that God can forgive ANY sin is Amazing.  It is &lt;em&gt;Amazing Grace,&lt;/em&gt; to be precise.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Christ can transform men and women in miraculous ways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet, Jesus tells us in Mark 3:28-29, “I assure you that any sin can be forgiven, including blasphemy; but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. It is an eternal sin.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me say it…, &lt;i&gt;Nuance &amp;amp; Paradox&lt;/i&gt; of God. I am advocating a Theology of Nuance.&lt;br /&gt;God can forgive any sin and blasphemy except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;There are NO “hard and fast rules” with God.&lt;br /&gt;Innocence is not determined by strictly following God’s Law and guilt is not determined by “technically” breaking God’s Law (Mt 5:27-30 &amp;amp; Mt 12:1-14). We are disciples of a God who demands a very loose Theology of Nuance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to explain how my understanding of the individual character functions for the Trinity, will shed light on the Father’s inability to forgive blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Look below at the description for how the Father, Son and Holy Spirit function. I had this in the post of &lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-do-i-believe-that-jesus-is-messiah.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;March 19, 2007&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The Father is executive. He is the planner. He sets the vision. His will be done. He administrates the purpose. He is the Captain of the ship. He is the General of the Army. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The Son is the labor. He is the active. He fulfills the vision. He completes the will of the executive. He is the XO for the Captain of Ship. He is the Cavalry and Infantry and Armor of the Army.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;The Holy Spirit is the material supply chain. He produces &amp;amp; provides the power. He is the materiel supply line. He delivers the fuel to the Armor. He delivers ammunition to the Infantry. He provides counsel and support to the wounded. He is the Navy Corpsman &amp;amp; Army Combat Field Medic.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Now let me make a point from carnal brutality and violence of war. In war, Navy Corpsman &amp;amp; Army Combat Field Medics, will always have insignia on their helmets and arms, indicating their role and position in the battle. They are never supposed to be targeted by combat personnel, nor are they ever supposed to be exploited for combat purposes. It is an “unforgivable” sin to target non-combatant medical personnel. It is also an “unpardonable” sin to use them, hospitals, and ambulances for combat functions. This is in our human psyche. We feel it in our bones. It makes emotional sense, even while we cannot explain it rationally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the design of our Creator.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Holy Spirit is utterly defenseless in our spiritual battle with the demons and our adversary, Satan.&lt;br /&gt;Just as when the Navy Corpsman steps onto the battle field where mortars are going off just a few meters away, he does not take up a rifle, because he has a nobler calling. So long as he is in an ambulance with a bright Red Cross, he is without protection. So long as he has a bright Red Cross on his helmet and arm band, he is acting as the symbolic equivalent God’s Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;When you take aim on the Army Combat Field Medic, you are shooting at the symbolic representation of He, who is the “Breath of Life” in the nostrils’ of “Adam”, i.e. Humankind. Genesis 2:7 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;“And the Lord God formed a man’s body from the dust of the ground and breathed into it the breath of life. And the man became a living person.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;What do you have..., if you take aim at the very “breath of life”? Your heart is beyond repair.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God bless,&lt;br /&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-1615654615009518121?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/1615654615009518121/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=1615654615009518121&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/1615654615009518121?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/1615654615009518121?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/KQ7nqvgGPC4/unforgiveable.html" title="Unforgiveable" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/SK90t9EJxEI/AAAAAAAAATI/cWaffxefthU/s72-c/pard.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2008/08/unforgiveable.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;CUcASHwyfSp7ImA9WB5bFU4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-8424461262048632247</id><published>2007-08-30T22:45:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-08-30T23:04:09.295-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-08-30T23:04:09.295-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Nuance" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bible" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Christ" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jesus Christ" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sin" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Truth" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Guilt" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Paradox" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Religion" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Allegiance" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Temptatation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Condemnation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Kingdom" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Church" /><title>Money, Money, Money; or A different interpretation of the "Rich Young Ruler."</title><content type="html">&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RteTKQSeN8I/AAAAAAAAAQY/rYBIiVvCdMg/s1600-h/portrait_50.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RteTKQSeN8I/AAAAAAAAAQY/rYBIiVvCdMg/s200/portrait_50.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5104710507028166594" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.moneyfactory.gov/newmoney/images/features/portrait.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; width: 147px; cursor: pointer; height: 64px;" alt="" src="http://www.moneyfactory.gov/newmoney/images/features/portrait.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p face="verdana" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" align="center"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 153, 153);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mt 19:21 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 153, 153);"&gt;﻿Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 153, 153);"&gt;give &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 153, 153);"&gt;to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 153, 153);"&gt;the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 153, 153);"&gt;heaven: and come and follow me.﻿ 22 ﻿But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.﻿23 ﻿Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 153, 153);"&gt;you, That a rich &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(51, 153, 153);"&gt;man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. ﻿24 ﻿And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.﻿&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;" &gt;Is he eternally lost?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;p face="verdana" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial;"&gt;Did he die in his sins?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many folks will tell me that this fellow is lost.&lt;br /&gt;Many folks will say that Jesus has condemned all rich people.&lt;br /&gt;But, I differ fundamentally with the faulty hermeneutics used to put this stake through the souls of so many people.&lt;br /&gt;Look again, at the the passage about the Rich young ruler. Verse 22 says that he went away sorrowful or "sad" because he had great wealth. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p face="verdana" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is he sad because he's rich?&lt;br /&gt;This is not the typical response to having great wealth. Is it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p face="verdana" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial;"&gt;'John Doe wins the multi-million dollar lotto, so he goes away sad because he has excessive wealth.'&lt;br /&gt;You just don't hear this.&lt;br /&gt;My take on this passage is that, the rich man recognizes his deep Spiritual need. In-fact this exchange is the same in all of the synoptic gospel accounts. The man asks Jesus what "he" personally, must do to have eternal life. So, the fellow has a recognition of his need.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RteRdASeN6I/AAAAAAAAAQI/W45yOBUtO7U/s1600-h/coins.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 124px; height: 184px;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RteRdASeN6I/AAAAAAAAAQI/W45yOBUtO7U/s200/coins.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5104708630127458210" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Consider this in the context of Mt 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." The young ruler meets this criterion by simply asking the question of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look further, Mt 5:4. "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted." The young ruler meets this criterion by going away "sad". He was not sad because he was rich, but rather, because he knew that there was "one thing" that was coming between himself and God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus has good news for people who are able to recognize such a sad personal state of affairs, "They will be comforted."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Look at Mt 5:6 "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled." This young man appears to be getting a lot of good news (gospel) from Christ. The rich man clearly, has a deep hunger and thirst for righteousness, because after Jesus tells him a list of things, which he had followed "religiously" the young man didn't celebrate and hoop-it-up, but instead he recognized he was still lacking something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This issue could be expanded further by talking about the impossibility of any rich man's salvation...on his own merits, versus any rich man's salvation on God's merits. But, I am hoping you are getting the idea by now, that this young man met Jesus' stated criteria for being blessed in Mt 5.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, if you still follow me on this. And if you too have felt "sad" that you have not achieved God's level of excellence, then I am also hoping that you might recognize that your very deep and earnest desire for perfection is the exact same thing to Christ from Mt 5. If you didn't care, then there would be a problem. But, that's not the case. The only thing lacking for you, is the answer to yourself of some important questions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol style="font-family: arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Just How Powerful is this Jesus? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Is he really able to forgive anything?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Can he heal me, personally, for any &amp;amp; all faults? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Can He create, in me, a holy and sanctified soul? Despite my failings. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;God bless,&lt;br /&gt;DSM&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-8424461262048632247?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/8424461262048632247/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=8424461262048632247&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/8424461262048632247?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/8424461262048632247?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/Dpkz9zxf3LI/money-money-money-or-different.html" title="Money, Money, Money; or A different interpretation of the &quot;Rich Young Ruler.&quot;" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RteTKQSeN8I/AAAAAAAAAQY/rYBIiVvCdMg/s72-c/portrait_50.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/08/money-money-money-or-different.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0UER389fyp7ImA9WB5bFE4.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-461518951016517152</id><published>2007-08-29T19:50:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-08-29T19:53:26.167-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-08-29T19:53:26.167-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Truth" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Purpose" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Temptatation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Knowledge" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pride" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Power" /><title>What is God's Dream/Vision For You?</title><content type="html">&lt;img title="Vision Quest" style="WIDTH: 210px; HEIGHT: 166px" height="371" alt="Vision Quest" hspace="2" src="http://www.theologyofnuance.com/upload/leopold.jpg" width="326" align="right" vspace="2" border="2" /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#333333;"&gt;My kids are currently obsessed with the animated movie &lt;em&gt;Robots&lt;/em&gt;. If you are familiar with the story I will be brief with my summary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lead character, Rodney, grows up at his father’s knee, being encouraged to “follow your dream”. Through the ensuing story we learn that the father had not been so encouraged as a young robot, and therefore, he had compromised his skills and talents to utilitarian expediencies of supporting his wife and son.&lt;br /&gt;The story is generally good and it is very encouraging to young kids.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the underlying point that must be taken for granted, is that people will have a clearly defined “dream” or “vision” for their service to their fellow ‘bots’, and by implication to the Creator.&lt;br /&gt;This assumption is not true for most humans; maybe it is different for Robots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please consider the following.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When an engineer creates a machine or tool, the tool will reflect a clearly defined “design intent”, this physical appearance will reveal for what the tool is supposed to be used.&lt;br /&gt;For example, an archeologist can easily discern designed intent for an unearthed cup, the same is true for a hand saw or a ladle or spoon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, how, specifically, does an individual human reflect the Creator’s design intent?&lt;br /&gt;Any answers?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are talking about a spiritual element of the Human creation, therefore, any attempts to look for the equivilent of a coffee mug's handle or a saw blades teeth, simply won't work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Robots is a cute movie, but our physical lives as homo-sapiens does not so easily reveal God's will or “vision/dream” function.&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, the overarching role, which we are to play in God’s scheme, must always be subjectively discerned, so long as God refuses to reveal specific details to us directly, e.g. by speaking via burning bushes or by speaking from bright lights that surround us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is always the case that people look for signs of God’s plan for us, personally or individually. And it is from the various signs we see, that we will be shaken to the core periodically, because we attempt to apply &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;our&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; interpretation of events to God’s eternal plan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So here is an all too common scenario…;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#333333;"&gt;I have a “vision” of God’s purpose for me. My interpretation of "God's Plan" for me is confirmed by subsequent anecdotal evidence. Yet the dream suddenly becomes a “nightmare” and God’s purpose, which had been so clearly perceived just moments before, now becomes apparent chaos, and leaves me attempting to make new order out of the fragmentation of &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;my vision&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Humans are utterly blind to the Father's specific and detailed plans for each individual self. I am walking blindly into the future. I sometimes bump into walls of chaos, pain and confusion; and sometimes I slip comfortably down corridors of peace, pleasure and tranquility. Yet, neither the chaos nor the tranquility reveals anything about my true and detailed mission as an individual.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus Christ said that many details are only known by the Father (Mark 13:32). So all the conjecture about detailed “vision” of &lt;em&gt;my purpose&lt;/em&gt; will only create faith struggles when a new ‘wall of chaos’ jumps out of my future and smacks me squarely in the middle of my“dream”.&lt;br /&gt;The scriptures tell us the beginning of the story is &lt;em&gt;“Here”&lt;/em&gt; and the end of the story is &lt;em&gt;“There”&lt;/em&gt;, but only this one thing matters, between the &lt;em&gt;“Here and There”&lt;/em&gt;; &lt;u&gt;TRUST God the Father through the valley of the shadow of death. He will see you safely through to the other side, PERIOD&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good advice is good advice, but so far as I can tell my purpose is to get a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk and to glorify Jesus to whomever I meet along the way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I am attempting to say, is that I need not know the Father's detailed and specific will for my life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have not read The Purpose Driven Life by Dr. Rick Warren, so I am not commenting on his view per se. But rather, I am saying that our "Purpose" is a simple one that does not require that we find some new and innovative way to discern the will of the Father, e.g. high powered tea leaves for divining God's mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can pick-up trash laying on the ground at the filling station, while we fill up our automobile, and in so doing bring high honor to Jesus. Its just that simple. Anytime we humble ourselves in service to someone else, we have fulfilled our Purpose.&lt;br /&gt;Nothing here, in my opinion, requires more 'how to' books by T.D. Jakes, Joel Olstien, Dr. Joyce Meyers or ________ _____ (fill-in the blank).&lt;br /&gt;Just study the life of Christ and His early disciples and then put into practice what you find, voilà you have fulfilled God's vision and His will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Knowledge has value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, being tempted by the desire to possess knowledge of God's will &amp; purpose is a trap for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have already been snared by the devil's scheme. This trap is the same pitfall that captured the hearts of Adam &amp;amp; Eve.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember that episode; the serpent tells us to partake of the fruit of knowledge and then we can be like God, by knowing His will.&lt;br /&gt;Being aware of the Father's detailed plans is irrelevant; it is enough for me to know that God has given His Word to me and for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, in the here and now, &lt;strong&gt;I must trust&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's not so romantic to think that God's will is for me to pick up garbage beside a gas pump.&lt;br /&gt;I'd rather dream about having some grand and noble purpose that will set me in a spotlight of creative history, but that is simply not God's way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I want to fulfill my mission and purpose I must set aside those carnal desires for greatness in &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"my vision"&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, and instead become humble like the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And by the way, this doesn't mean that I have to like the Father's plan either. Take note that Jesus Christ, the very Son of God and Creator, prayed "let this cup pass from me", which necessarily implies, that even the Son of God didn't like the Fathers plan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My purpose is not discernable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is my conclusion of the matter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God bless,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-461518951016517152?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/461518951016517152/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=461518951016517152&amp;isPopup=true" title="5 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/461518951016517152?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/461518951016517152?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/TfJWzbFoVx0/what-is-gods-dreamvision-for-you.html" title="What is God's Dream/Vision For You?" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">5</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/08/what-is-gods-dreamvision-for-you.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;A0EARX08eyp7ImA9WB5RE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-3653700931213514087</id><published>2007-06-20T11:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-06-20T12:14:04.373-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-06-20T12:14:04.373-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Salvation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Perdition" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Mercy" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Judgement" /><title>Our attitude is our own judge!</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#000000;"&gt;It has &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;occurred&lt;/span&gt; to me, that in the universe that God has placed us, people have ultimate control of only one thing; our own attitude.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is called "free will".&lt;br /&gt;Furthermore, it is our attitude that will be our judge, when we meet the Creator.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I often times attempt to transfer my own personal "law" or rules for salvation onto other men and women, but God has not granted this authority to me.&lt;br /&gt;My self-imposed "law" or list of things 'to do' or 'not to do' will not be binding on anyone other than myself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is interesting to consider that all Christian churches, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;congregations&lt;/span&gt;, denominations, and even individual people have lists of rules for salvation. Some of those lists are formal written rules and laws, but many are just &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;ingrained&lt;/span&gt; dogma that we have picked up from whomever has happened to have taught us along the road of life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We seem to presume that the Creator of the universe will be obliged to judge all of mankind, on that final day, based upon &lt;em&gt;our very own personal credo&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If only we could stop for a moment and consider how audacious this presumption truly is, we might be just a little more forgiving of our fellow human.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So at this point, possibly our question could be:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#000000;"&gt;What are the limits of God's power to give life to a lifeless body?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#000000;"&gt;God bless,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"   style="font-family:arial;color:#000000;"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#000000;"&gt;p.s. I believe the answer is in the preceding post.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-3653700931213514087?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/3653700931213514087/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=3653700931213514087&amp;isPopup=true" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/3653700931213514087?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/3653700931213514087?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/rbYtwRhpw_c/our-attitude-is-our-own-judge.html" title="Our attitude is our own judge!" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/06/our-attitude-is-our-own-judge.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEYCR346cSp7ImA9WB5RE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-4203594629422880901</id><published>2007-06-20T11:04:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-06-20T11:16:06.019-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-06-20T11:16:06.019-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Salvation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Perdition" /><title>What single thing can determine your salvation or your perdition?</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RnlSvA-1p0I/AAAAAAAAAPs/NQLo73tB8gE/s1600-h/yourownheart.gif"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5078181022507837250" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RnlSvA-1p0I/AAAAAAAAAPs/NQLo73tB8gE/s400/yourownheart.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-4203594629422880901?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/4203594629422880901/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=4203594629422880901&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/4203594629422880901?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/4203594629422880901?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/6QgQDOn3VdQ/what-single-thing-can-determine-your.html" title="What single thing can determine your salvation or your perdition?" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RnlSvA-1p0I/AAAAAAAAAPs/NQLo73tB8gE/s72-c/yourownheart.gif" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/06/what-single-thing-can-determine-your.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0YNQHk5fCp7ImA9WxdaE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-6549152501394056290</id><published>2007-06-12T10:39:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-21T15:39:51.724-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-08-21T15:39:51.724-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pain" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Test" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Temptatation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Suffering" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Fear" /><title>I am not at ease, neither am I quiet, neither have I rest; But trouble cometh.</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://www.theologyofnuance.com/?p=19"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5075213131386824450" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/Rm7HdA-1pwI/AAAAAAAAAPM/4h4x5hka0Mg/s400/andromeda-Job.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#660000;"&gt;Job 3:25-26&lt;br /&gt;25﻿ For the thing which I fear cometh upon me, And that which I am afraid of cometh unto me. 26﻿ I am not at ease, neither am I quiet, neither have I rest; But trouble cometh.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;American Standard Version. 1995 . Logos Research Systems, Inc.: Oak Harbor, WA&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Question: Why did Job fear that this trouble would befall him? He had never suffered before. He had only known blessings all of his life. He had great wealth, land, livestock, prestige, power and unified family. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Yet, he says that the &lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;"thing that he had feared, had befallen him."&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Why did he doubt God before the trouble? Did God allow this anguish to befall Job, so that Job could overcome the fear that lived inside of his heart?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;I wonder about my fears too. Are all of my fears going to find me? Will I overcome my fears like Job overcame his?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;I pray that God will give me the power to rise above them when they find me? My fears are inside my heart and I pray to overcome them before Satan brings them to bear on my soul. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;I am ashamed of the pain that has come to those I love because of my fears in the past. And I wonder if Job's sons and daughters were destined to their fate because of the fears of their father. I am afraid that my kids will suffer as a result of my fear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;God bless my kids and help me overcome before my fear overtakes my loved ones.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;God bless,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-6549152501394056290?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/6549152501394056290/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=6549152501394056290&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/6549152501394056290?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/6549152501394056290?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/sVw339fJEzU/i-am-not-at-ease-neither-am-i-quiet.html" title="I am not at ease, neither am I quiet, neither have I rest; But trouble cometh." /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp1.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/Rm7HdA-1pwI/AAAAAAAAAPM/4h4x5hka0Mg/s72-c/andromeda-Job.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/06/i-am-not-at-ease-neither-am-i-quiet.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0UFR348eSp7ImA9WxdaE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-4229338920278150490</id><published>2007-06-07T21:34:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-21T15:40:16.071-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-08-21T15:40:16.071-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Answer" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pain" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Betrayal" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Dejected" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Forsaken" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Cliché" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Suffering" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="God" /><title>If God seems distant..., who has moved?</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RmlcPw-1pvI/AAAAAAAAAPE/FNftDl011pg/s1600-h/Who's-moved-Job.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5073687881125832434" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RmlcPw-1pvI/AAAAAAAAAPE/FNftDl011pg/s400/Who's-moved-Job.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;This epigraph is on a church billboard not too far from my home; I've added the Job passage as food for thought, because, I like to think.&lt;br /&gt;So, let's go ahead and ask that question of our patriarch Job, incidentally I think that Job's friends metaphorically already asked this question.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;color:#990000;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Job 1:1, 6-12&lt;br /&gt;1 There was a man named Job who lived in the land of Uz. He was blameless, a man of complete integrity. He feared God and stayed away from evil.&lt;br /&gt;6 One day the angels﻿*﻿ came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan the Accuser came with them.&lt;br /&gt;7 “Where have you come from?” the Lord asked Satan.&lt;br /&gt;And Satan answered the Lord, “I have been going back and forth across the earth, watching everything that’s going on.”&lt;br /&gt;8 Then the Lord asked Satan, “Have you noticed my servant Job? He is the finest man in all the earth—a man of complete integrity. He fears God and will have nothing to do with evil.”&lt;br /&gt;9 Satan replied to the Lord, “Yes, Job fears God, but not without good reason!&lt;br /&gt;10 You have always protected him and his home and his property from harm. You have made him prosperous in everything he does. Look how rich he is!&lt;br /&gt;11 But take away everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face!”&lt;br /&gt;12 “All right, you may test him,” the Lord said to Satan. “Do whatever you want with everything he possesses, but don’t harm him physically.” So Satan left the Lord’s presence.&lt;br /&gt;* Job 1:6, Hebrew &lt;u&gt;the sons of God.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 1997 . Tyndale House: Wheaton, Ill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Job 2:1-7&lt;br /&gt;1 One day the angels﻿*﻿ came again to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan the Accuser came with them.&lt;br /&gt;2 “Where have you come from?” the Lord asked Satan. And Satan answered the Lord, “I have been going back and forth across the earth, watching everything that’s going on.”&lt;br /&gt;3 Then the Lord asked Satan, “Have you noticed my servant Job? He is the finest man in all the earth—a man of complete integrity. He fears God and will have nothing to do with evil. And he has maintained his integrity, even though you persuaded me to harm him without cause.”&lt;br /&gt;4 Satan replied to the Lord, “Skin for skin—he blesses you only because you bless him. A man will give up everything he has to save his life.&lt;br /&gt;5 But take away his health, and he will surely curse you to your face!”&lt;br /&gt;6 “All right, do with him as you please,” the Lord said to Satan. “But spare his life.”&lt;br /&gt;7 So Satan left the Lord’s presence, and he struck Job with a terrible case of boils from head to foot.&lt;br /&gt;* Job 2:1, Hebrew &lt;u&gt;the sons of God.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 1997 . Tyndale House: Wheaton, Ill.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;Any guesses on who moved? Think long and hard, because cliché will not answer the question. And cliché may only pour salt onto a bleeding heart/soul. People must be served by Christ..., i.e. Christ's Holy Spirit who lives in you and me. Is he still there? Is the heart of the One who said 'Eli eli lema sabachthani' in His temple? If He who can identify with Job does remain, then..., as He asks the question, He also knows what happened on the day the veil was torn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The earth shook! Darkness covered the earth! And God moved away...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God bless,&lt;br /&gt;DSM&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;p.s. Jesus still trusted the Father &amp;amp; Job still trusted Him too.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-4229338920278150490?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/4229338920278150490/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=4229338920278150490&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/4229338920278150490?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/4229338920278150490?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/6c1MO-VLLSY/if-god-seems-distant-who-has-moved.html" title="If God seems distant..., who has moved?" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp3.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RmlcPw-1pvI/AAAAAAAAAPE/FNftDl011pg/s72-c/Who" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/06/if-god-seems-distant-who-has-moved.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0AHQX8-cCp7ImA9WB5TEUw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-602275550068392599</id><published>2007-05-25T10:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-05-25T11:48:50.158-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-05-25T11:48:50.158-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Calvin and Hobbes" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Bill Waterson" /><title>The most practical lessons that I've learned on anthropology, sociology, and theology, I learned from Calvin &amp; Hobbes.</title><content type="html">Just to be clear, the lessons were not from John Calvin nor Thomas Hobbes, but rather from the Bill Waterson's comic strip characters Calvin and Hobbes, who are the namesakes of the former.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/ch070506.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="WIDTH: 630px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/ch070506.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/ch070210.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="WIDTH: 630px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/ch070210.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-602275550068392599?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/602275550068392599/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=602275550068392599&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/602275550068392599?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/602275550068392599?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/bLwJI3MhsN4/most-practical-lessons-that-ive-learned.html" title="The most practical lessons that I've learned on anthropology, sociology, and theology, I learned from Calvin &amp; Hobbes." /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/most-practical-lessons-that-ive-learned.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;AkYEQHc_fCp7ImA9WB5TEE8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-2389274802146567915</id><published>2007-05-18T18:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-05-24T12:35:01.944-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-05-24T12:35:01.944-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pain" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Betrayal" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Test" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Dejected" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Forsaken" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Temptatation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Suffering" /><title>At what point will you abandon your faith?</title><content type="html">&lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Kermit-transparent.gif"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5066384900183672162" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/Rk9qOU7ZxWI/AAAAAAAAAOU/jAlXcCm9SwQ/s200/goya79.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="color:#999999;"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;color:#999999;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Francisco &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;de&lt;/span&gt; Goya. St. Peter Repentant. c. 1823-25.)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;color:#999999;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;color:#999999;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#3366ff;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;(I am posting this for a fellow follower of Christ, who has been forsaken by God. I know that your questions will not be answered in this post, however, I believe that each follower of Christ should ask this question and not just pretend to be a superman or wonder-woman, when it comes to trusting God. At some time in our lives, we will each come face to face with our break-point. The adversary will ask the Father for permission to sift us as wheat. We must remember that Jesus is praying for us, just as He did for Simon Peter; "﻿But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.﻿" So to my dear friend and the one to whom I have spoken about the trial that you are currently facing, please consider the following words from Luke 22:32, "when you have repented and turned to me again, strengthen and build up your brothers.” I do not know why God does the things He does, but the ultimate purpose must be from Jesus exhortation to Peter. We must prepare to 'strengthen and build up our brothers and sisters in faith.')&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=2389274802146567915#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;You may be able to tell by recent posts, the past several weeks have been difficult for my faith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;As I write, my father-in-law is still in a coma from the auto accident of April 29. God has preserved Gary and has sustained him and our family, thus far. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;I will not give any further details of my personal pain, however, I will confess that I am aware that my struggles are surely not worth comparing to those struggles of many, who read this post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Pain &amp;amp; grief is relative to each person, so there is not a quantitative standard to measure what should be categorized as "big" or "small" pain &amp; grief. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;And to this point, we should consider that many "small" griefs, which are placed on a person will build stress until a "break-point" may be reached, and when the day comes, it seems that the collapse of ones faith came over "nothing". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;With this single little grief that may push us past our break-point, it may seem insignificant to our own heart. Therefore, we tend to feel guilty or foolish. Thus, we may not allow ourselves to admit that we are facing our personal 'Crossing of the Rubicon', as regards our faith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The purpose for this essay is to encourage each reader to take hold of all opportunities to face personal griefs and suffering. God will be glorified and the adversary will be weakened when we continue the struggle in faith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The question that is the title of this post, exposes the value, which our adversary sees within pain, grief, and suffering. Satan sees these small sufferings and big griefs, through a single lens, that purpose is; "Does this grief move D.S. Martin closer to giving up his faith?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;There is &lt;u&gt;nothing&lt;/u&gt; painful in life that cannot be seen with the understanding, that the &lt;em&gt;adversary&lt;/em&gt; wishes to use it for driving a wedge between us and God. (&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;Genesis 3:5 “God knows that your eyes will be opened when you eat it. You will become just like God, knowing everything, both good and evil.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=2389274802146567915#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;amp;postID=2389274802146567915#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 1997 . Tyndale House: &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Wheaton&lt;/span&gt;, Ill.) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;From the above passage we can paraphrase the adversary by saying 'God's heart is &lt;u&gt;not good&lt;/u&gt;. Men &amp; Women shouldn't trust &lt;strong&gt;I Am&lt;/strong&gt;.' &lt;/em&gt;And God is portrayed as an enemy of Man, because of a very attractive fruit tree in the Garden of Eden.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;The fall of mankind and all subsequent pain, murders, wars, child abuse, etc. are all brought about by the simple fruit tree in the middle of the garden. Seems like a petty thing, yet Eve and Adam distrusted God's will and holy nature, because of that tree, which had implied meaning to them, that &lt;u&gt;He was keeping the "good stuff" from them&lt;/u&gt;. They were too presumptive, for their own good!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Also however, there is nothing difficult in life that cannot be seen with &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I Am's&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; sole purpose of building perseverance in faith. We might paraphrase this as God saying; "Don't give up. Just stay with me David Martin, and you will see how much I love you. Trust me with more than your heart, and I will give you more than life." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Please remember the Lord's words to Peter (&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Luke22:31-32 ﻿And the Lord said, "Simon, Simon, behold, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;:﻿ 32 ﻿But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.﻿"&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;Emphasis added.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;So if you have not thought about &lt;strong&gt;the question&lt;/strong&gt;, you may be &lt;u&gt;sure of this, your adversary has&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;considered it,&lt;/u&gt; and he will ask the Father on some day when you think, as did Peter; &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;"Lord, I am ready to go with thee, both into prison, and to death."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=2389274802146567915#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Peter had only considered two possible negative outcomes for faith in &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;I Am; loss of freedom and death.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Have you given up everything as Peter had done?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Have you left your home and business for plans of glory in service to God?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Have you spent years in preparation for the work of the Creator of heaven and earth?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Have you betrayed the expectations of your father and mother, by declining to take up the family business and carry on the name your parents gave you at birth?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;And finally, have you had everything, everything, everything, crash in on your very soul and crush your hopes and dreams?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Well, don't forget that this all happened to Peter.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Matthew 4, 18 One day as Jesus was walking along the shore beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers—Simon, also called Peter, and Andrew—fishing with a net, for they were commercial fishermen. 19 Jesus called out to them, “&lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Come, be my disciples, and I will show you how to fish for people!” 20 And they left their nets at once and went with him.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt; &lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jesus called him from his home, from his parents, from his business, from his whole life. It was all given up because of Simon's unwavering faith in Jesus the Messiah.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;17 Jesus replied, “You are blessed, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Simon son of John&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;,﻿﻿ because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being. 18 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Now I say to you that you are Peter&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;,﻿﻿ and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell﻿ will not conquer it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatever you lock on earth will be locked in heaven, and whatever you open on earth will be opened in heaven.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=2389274802146567915#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jesus took Simon's name. The proud name that was 'Simon', which came from his parents, now becomes "Peter". When translated, Simon's new name is "Stone/boulder".&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Simon and brother Andrew are the first disciples to sign-on with the Messiah. They spend the next three years in training to do exactly what Jesus told them in the above passage from Matthew 4:19&lt;/strong&gt; "...&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;and I will make you fishers of men."&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Matthew 26:50 Jesus said, “My friend, go ahead and do what you have come for.” Then &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;the others grabbed Jesus and arrested him&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.... 56 But this is all happening to fulfill the words of the prophets as recorded in the Scriptures.” At that point, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;all the disciples deserted him and fled.&lt;/u&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;...66 What is your verdict?” &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;“Guilty!”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; they shouted. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;“He must die!”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; 67 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Then they spit in Jesus’ face and hit him with their fists. And some slapped him, 68 saying, “Prophesy to us, you Messiah! Who hit you that time?”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;69 Meanwhile, as Peter was sitting outside in the courtyard, a servant girl came over and said to him, “You were one of those with Jesus the Galilean.”&lt;br /&gt;70 But &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Peter denied it in front of everyone. “I don’t know what you are talking about,” he said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;71 Later, out by the gate, another servant girl noticed him and said to those standing around, “This man was with Jesus of Nazareth.”&lt;br /&gt;72 Again &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Peter denied it, this time with an oath. “I don’t even know the man,” he said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;73 A little later some other bystanders came over to him and said, “You must be one of them; we can tell by your Galilean accent.”&lt;br /&gt;74 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Peter said, “I swear by God, I don’t know the man.”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; And immediately the rooster crowed. 75 Suddenly, Jesus’ words flashed through Peter’s mind: &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;“Before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.”&lt;/span&gt; And &lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;he went away, crying bitterly&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt;...Matthew 27:21 So when the governor asked again, “Which of these two do you want me to release to you?” &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;the crowd shouted back their reply: “Barabbas!”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; 22 “But if I release Barabbas,” Pilate asked them, “what should I do with Jesus who is called the Messiah?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;And they all shouted,&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;“Crucify him!”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; 23 “Why?” Pilate demanded. “What crime has he committed?” But &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;the crowd only roared the louder, “Crucify him!”&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;I should probably keep going with the brutal beating that Peter's "Messiah" took. I might tell you about Peter's Rabbi being treated with contempt as he is spat upon. I could recite the mocking that was bestowed upon Peter's "King", with a crown of thorns. Is it necessary to tell you about the torturous death that Peter's God suffered at the hands of Roman/"gentile dogs"? Does anyone not know about Peter's master receiving a Roman lance through his heart? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;So, let me ask the question again; At what point will you abandon your faith?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If your husband or wife leaves you; will that turn you against God?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If your son or daughter is harmed; will that turn your heart against the Father?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If your mother or father abandons you; would that push you over the break-point?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If you lost your job, money, family, purpose, &amp; hope; would you then, tell God to shove-off?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;In my opinion, it is better to ask the questions when things are going well, rather than to wait and deal with it on the adversary's terms. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;God bless,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-2389274802146567915?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/2389274802146567915/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=2389274802146567915&amp;isPopup=true" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/2389274802146567915?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/2389274802146567915?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/jUUtSiElLHY/at-what-point-will-you-abandon-your.html" title="At what point will you abandon your faith?" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp3.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/Rk9qOU7ZxWI/AAAAAAAAAOU/jAlXcCm9SwQ/s72-c/goya79.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/at-what-point-will-you-abandon-your.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkQFQXw9eCp7ImA9WBFaEUs.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-5517103526927182995</id><published>2007-05-14T12:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-05-14T12:38:30.260-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-05-14T12:38:30.260-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Purpose" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Church" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Discipleship" /><title>Review of book:Simple Church by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=443908&amp;netp_id=441802&amp;amp;event=ESRCN&amp;item_code=WW#curr"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5064470798715303314" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RkidW9TDtZI/AAAAAAAAAOM/DLXQJkQyN3M/s200/Simple+Church.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;I am persuaded that God has again, in this book, provided a great service to His servants in the Church.&lt;br /&gt;"The purpose" is re-emphasized and the process for achieving the "Great Commission" is clearly laid-out for any and all who wish to serve the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;Even while I am convinced that all believing "church leaders" will benefit from this book, I am more convinced that this book should be in the hands of the "laity", i.e. the vast numbers of individual members of the body of Christ who evangelize at the water cooler or the construction site food catering trucks, but only when they know their purpose.&lt;br /&gt;Please also read this essay, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2007/0507/210.html"&gt;The Power of Parishioners&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, by Dr. Rick Warren, which coincides with the Rainer/Geiger findings in Simple Church.&lt;br /&gt;The leaders are not the power of Christ's Church; rather it is the vast army of committed volunteers who understand a "Simple" message with an understandable goal, which is preached from the Simple Church that Jesus established on Pentecost a few years ago.&lt;br /&gt;The power is not in the Pastors, deacons, and preacher/evangelists.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;The power is instead from the Holy Spirit within the hearts of those who believe that Jesus can and will save.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;God bless,&lt;br /&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-5517103526927182995?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/5517103526927182995/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=5517103526927182995&amp;isPopup=true" title="5 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/5517103526927182995?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/5517103526927182995?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/-7GfhXopu-4/review-of-book-simple-church-by-thom-s.html" title="Review of book:&lt;em&gt;Simple Church&lt;/em&gt; by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RkidW9TDtZI/AAAAAAAAAOM/DLXQJkQyN3M/s72-c/Simple+Church.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">5</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/review-of-book-simple-church-by-thom-s.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0UAQnk6eSp7ImA9WxdaE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-3560826968181849942</id><published>2007-05-13T14:46:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-21T15:40:43.711-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-08-21T15:40:43.711-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pain" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Betrayal" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Dejected" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Forsaken" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Suffering" /><title>Meanwhile, I am still hurting and He is still forsaking me.</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#999999;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/dejected.html#comment-2491790376769357127"&gt;(Response to Comment by Craig)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;Craig,&lt;br /&gt;I am not feeling overcome, only forsaken. I am thinking that "forsaken" is a blessing and not a curse, but, it doesn't make it any more pleasant. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that Jesus concludes His passion with "It is finished" means that He understood, that being forsaken in the flesh was the purpose for life. Maybe we would agree on that point maybe not, however I am beginning to understand this; that Jesus was our example in &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;every way&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, not just in the superficial ways, such as 'rubbing elbows' with the 'salt of the earth' crowd.&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, if Jesus was forsaken by the Father, while in the flesh, we too will be forsaken by the Father, while still in the flesh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You should read my most recent essay &lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/betrayal-of-job-testing-of-job.html"&gt;(May 10, 2007 "Betrayal of Job, (Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani)".&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People keep telling me 'Maybe God is working in this thing by _____', and my response is "Yeah,it sure could be, but your 'solution' does not provide resolution and it is very uncertain. Meanwhile, I am still hurting and He is still forsaking me. I am not turning from Him, I will be here no matter what He does to me, even if He sends me to a cursed cross, but &lt;b&gt;I don't like it!&lt;/b&gt; The LORD gives the LORD takes away. Blessed be the name of the LORD.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I pray that God may bless you and your family, (preferably, with more pleasant blessings than those referenced in Psalm 119:71)&lt;br /&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-3560826968181849942?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/3560826968181849942/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=3560826968181849942&amp;isPopup=true" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/3560826968181849942?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/3560826968181849942?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/LBFvQ2wnVvY/craig-i-am-not-feeling-overcome-only.html" title="Meanwhile, I am still hurting and He is still forsaking me." /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/craig-i-am-not-feeling-overcome-only.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DUcDRng_fCp7ImA9WBFbGUw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-1786088677442183352</id><published>2007-05-10T14:23:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-05-11T15:57:57.644-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-05-11T15:57:57.644-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Betrayal" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Dejected" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Faith" /><title>Betrayal of Job (“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?”)</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://www.theologyofnuance.com/wp-includes/images/Job-Blake-small.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="Testing of Job (Betrayal of Job)" src="http://www.theologyofnuance.com/wp-includes/images/Job-Blake-small.jpg" border="5" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Many do not agree with me that God “does” things that amount to betrayal or forsaking of His people. But, until you can tell me what Jesus meant by his dying words &lt;em&gt;(Write it. Post it here to this essay. Support it with citations from scripture. I will not debate, what is clear from the Lord’s question to the Holy Father, unless you are willing to search the scriptures and support your beliefs with the "inspired words" of God's prophets.);&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;“Eli, Eli, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;lema&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;sabachthani&lt;/span&gt;?” which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I will stand by Jesus words! He knew what was happening and he characterized it accordingly. He was not “mistaken”. He was not “confused”. He was not just being “emotional”. He is God and He was forsaken by the Father. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Discounting the words of the Lord, by saying "It only appeared to Jesus, that the Father forsook him", necessarily implies that Jesus could be &lt;strong&gt;wrong&lt;/strong&gt; about the Father. If Jesus ‘could be wrong’ about the Father, then why would anyone dare to worship Him as Lord. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;It is not plausible to claim that Jesus, as he breathes his dying words, is only asking a “rhetorical question” of the Father. Final words are not commonly known to be "rhetorical."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Anyone who uses human wisdom to equivocate for Jesus’ intended meaning, simply will not suffice for me. Jesus said it, either He was wrong, He lied, or He was speaking Truth. I tend to believe Jesus and Truth are never on opposite sides.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Therefore, if it happened once, to Jesus Christ, then it can happen again and Job knew this all to well, have a look for yourself, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;Job9:11 Yet when he comes near, I cannot see him. When he moves on, I do not see him go. 12 If he sends death to snatch someone away, who can stop him? Who dares to ask him, ‘What are you doing?’ 13 And God does not restrain his anger. The mightiest forces against him﻿*﻿ are crushed beneath his feet. 14 “And who am I, that I should try to answer God or even reason with him? 15 Even if I were innocent, I would have no defense. I could only plead for mercy. 16 And even if I summoned him and he responded, he would never listen to me. 17 For he attacks me without reason,﻿*﻿ and he multiplies my wounds without cause. 18 He will not let me catch my breath, but fills me instead with bitter sorrows. 19 As for strength, he has it. As for justice, who can challenge him? 20 Though I am innocent, my own mouth would pronounce me guilty. Though I am blameless, it﻿*﻿ would prove me wicked.21 “I am innocent, but it makes no difference to me—I despise my life. 22 Innocent or wicked, it is all the same to him. That is why I say, ‘He destroys both the blameless and the wicked.’ 23 He laughs when a plague suddenly kills the innocent. 24 The whole earth is in the hands of the wicked, and God blinds the eyes of the judges and lets them be unfair. If not he, then who?* Job 9:13Hebrew The helpers of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Rahab&lt;/span&gt;, the name of a mythical sea monster that represents chaos in ancient literature.* Job 9:17As in Syriac version; Hebrew reads with a storm.* Job 9:20Or he.Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 1997 . Tyndale House: &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Wheaton&lt;/span&gt;, Ill.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;God does not “correct Job’s error” when he responds to Job. The Lord is speaking within the full context of the discourse between Job and his friends. This full context has &lt;strong&gt;two distinct themes which are NOT ambiguous.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;The theme of Job is this; “God the Creator has forsaken me and I want to know WHY?”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;The theme of Job’s friends is this; “God cannot forsake anyone, because that is ‘unjust’. Therefore you, Job, are responsible for the calamity that has befallen you. What the heck did you do, Job? Come-on, give us all the gory details.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;God instead says to Job, “Who is this that questions my wisdom with such ignorant words? Brace yourself, because I have some questions for you, and you must answer them…Where were you when I …&lt;u&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;fill-in the blank&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/u&gt;“.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The “ignorant words” statement, about Job’s words, &lt;u&gt;does not mean they are wrong words.&lt;/u&gt; It simply means that Job does not have full knowledge about that, of which he speaks. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;If I am wrong about any of this, you should write and show me where, because as the Lord concludes His discourse with Job this is what the Lord says; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;Job 42:7 After the Lord had finished speaking to Job, he said to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Eliphaz&lt;/span&gt; the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Temanite&lt;/span&gt;: “I am angry with you and with your two friends, for you have not been right in what you said about me, as my servant Job was.&lt;br /&gt;8 Now take seven young bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and offer a burnt offering for yourselves. My servant Job will pray for you, and I will accept his prayer on your behalf. I will not treat you as you deserve, for you have not been right in what you said about me, as my servant Job was.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Also note, I &lt;strong&gt;am not&lt;/strong&gt; saying that the Lord says that all of the &lt;em&gt;details&lt;/em&gt; from Job’s discourse with his friends are “right”. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;In a logical debate, such as what occurs with Job and his friends, details are ancillary to each side’s underlying theme.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Therefore, the Lord is speaking to &lt;strong&gt;two distinct themes&lt;/strong&gt;, which have been outlined using, anecdotes, details, hyperbole, metaphors, similes etc. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Furthermore, I know that “&lt;strong&gt;free will&lt;/strong&gt;” is a part of the equation, but “free will” is not a person and can, therefore, have NO CULPABILITY, while God is ULTIMATELY CULPABLE, just as Job states in 9:24. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The LORD emphatically states that Job is correct in &lt;strong&gt;his theme, i.e. "God has forsaken me"&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus, by &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;inference&lt;/span&gt;, also states that Job is correct, as He cries out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;lema&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;sabachthani&lt;/span&gt;”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I will take Job, the LORD, and Jesus over all the Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge Theologians, a.k.a. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;Eliphaz&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;Bildad&lt;/span&gt;, and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;Zophar&lt;/span&gt;, every trip of the train.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;But, that also means that my pain is quite real and quite irreconcilable…, while I remain in the flesh.&lt;br /&gt;DEJECTED! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God bless,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-1786088677442183352?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/1786088677442183352/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=1786088677442183352&amp;isPopup=true" title="5 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/1786088677442183352?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/1786088677442183352?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/mo6qV3_e11M/betrayal-of-job-testing-of-job.html" title="Betrayal of Job (“Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?”)" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">5</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/betrayal-of-job-testing-of-job.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0QER3wyeSp7ImA9WxdaE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-7415090214805981031</id><published>2007-05-09T09:53:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-21T15:41:46.291-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-08-21T15:41:46.291-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Dejected" /><title>No answers yet.</title><content type="html">I don't think that I would be in a mood to receive answers well, even if they were provided and were accurate.&lt;br /&gt;I believe the words would only make me angry.&lt;br /&gt;Maybe not, though.&lt;br /&gt;I suppose it would depend upon who was speaking. Also the context of the words should affect how the words are received.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A song came to mind this morning and I will apply the lyrics, just to see how it works.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;"Count Your Blessings"&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Today is my 15th Anniversary.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;My Wife loves me.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;She kissed me on the cheek as I woke-up this morning. (She found the card I left on her night stand.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;My daughter hugged me last night at bed time.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;My son liked his birthday present, a new bicycle.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I have a spare work vehicle to drive while my truck is out of service for 6-8 weeks.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;(I'll add to this list as things occur to me.)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-7415090214805981031?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/7415090214805981031/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=7415090214805981031&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/7415090214805981031?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/7415090214805981031?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/Wwjmc6UOP8M/no-answers-yet.html" title="No answers yet." /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/no-answers-yet.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0QGQXc-eyp7ImA9WxdaE0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-2757600474602690588</id><published>2007-05-08T21:08:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-08-21T15:42:00.953-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2008-08-21T15:42:00.953-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Dejected" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pride" /><title>Dejected?</title><content type="html">&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color:#999999;"&gt;I suspect that this is pride, but I don't know the answer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;No answers are available that will suffice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Ecclesiastes 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;2 “Everything is meaningless,” says the Teacher, “utterly meaningless!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3 What do people get for all their hard work? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;4 Generations come and go, but nothing really changes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 1997 . Tyndale House: &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Wheaton&lt;/span&gt;, Ill.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;If I die to self today, I always tend to resurrect myself tomorrow and I must die again. I can't get away from myself. Why do I fail?&lt;br /&gt;Why do I care if I am given a goal and then have the mission taken away?&lt;br /&gt;Why do I care if I am given answers that appear to be wrong or even intended to simply placate me?&lt;br /&gt;Why do I care if I am needed?&lt;br /&gt;If I am dead to self, then is my value dead?&lt;br /&gt;If I am dead to self, is my value increased?&lt;br /&gt;How do I go about service with passion? Because passion necessarily and inevitably brings dejection. Dejection feeds pride. Pride is sin!&lt;br /&gt;How does one serve dispassionately and yet remain effective?&lt;br /&gt;How does one serve dispassionately and yet hold a zest for life, to and in Christ Jesus? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Life is dejection, suffering, betrayal, pain and love.&lt;br /&gt;Why God?&lt;br /&gt;The paradox seems irreconcilable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;May God bless you with a full understanding of love, rather than an &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;exaggerated&lt;/span&gt; understanding of the other items listed above,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;p.s. We shouldn't forget Jesus dying words, &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;lema&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;sabachthani&lt;/span&gt;?” which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;DEJECTED!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When the Father forsook Jesus, I wonder if Jesus feelings were a thousand times more intense than the way that I feel now? Probably much more intense than even that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-2757600474602690588?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/2757600474602690588/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=2757600474602690588&amp;isPopup=true" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/2757600474602690588?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/2757600474602690588?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/pSvled7NPzo/dejected.html" title="Dejected?" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/dejected.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0EFQ3s8eyp7ImA9WBFbFkg.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-7101925767361613853</id><published>2007-05-04T13:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-05-08T15:20:12.573-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-05-08T15:20:12.573-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Nuance" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Salvation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Faith" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Paradox" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Old Covenant" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="New Covenant" /><title>Can we name any souls who were saved under the Old Covenant?</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RjuT8tTDtYI/AAAAAAAAAOE/Sb5nDgFYXQA/s1600-h/rahab.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5060801277441848706" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RjuT8tTDtYI/AAAAAAAAAOE/Sb5nDgFYXQA/s320/rahab.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I am beginning to think again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;So, this question occurred to me, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Can we name any souls who were saved under the Old Covenant? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;and my initial answer came up with the obvious Abraham, among many others, e.g. David, Rahab, Daniel, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;However, this begs a question; if the Old Testament (Covenant) had the power to save some, why did God go to the trouble of establishing the New Testament (Covenant)? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Is it just a "better" or more effective method of salvation? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Wouldn't this be analagous to saying that the "New" Synthetic motor oils are better and more effective at protecting engines from friction than the "Old" Petroleum based motor oils.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;My motor oil analogy carries the implied meaning that &lt;u&gt;many&lt;/u&gt; motors receive inherent benefits from petroleum based motor oils, and even to the point that many motors have been "saved" by petroleum based motor oils. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;I grew up with my father instilling this dogma into my preventative maintanence schedule. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;He would say, "Son..., you can run a motor out of &lt;strong&gt;gas&lt;/strong&gt;, but you should &lt;u&gt;NEVER&lt;/u&gt; run a motor out of &lt;strong&gt;OIL&lt;/strong&gt;." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;So, you see, I understand the value of the &lt;em&gt;Old Covenant&lt;/em&gt; motor oil.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;However, now the &lt;em&gt;New Covenant&lt;/em&gt; motor oils have arrived, and if one wants to "really" save his motors, he &lt;u&gt;must&lt;/u&gt; utilize this "New" means of salvation, which is brought through baptism into synthetic lubricants.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Nevertheless, here is the question again;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Can we name any souls who were saved under the Old Covenant?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Please look at two passages that have bearing on this question, 2 Corinithians 3:9. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Is Paul's statement universal? It appears to be so, and most disciples of Jesus seem to accept this statment as universal. And the context appears to command that we understand the universality of Paul's point concerning the Old Covenant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;How will this 2 Corintians passage affect our answer to the question at issue?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;This creates a conundrum for many of us, doesn't it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Here is another passage that may help or it may uncover some unresolved faith issues. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Look at Hebrews 11:39-40. We must understand the context of Hebrews 11. The writer of this letter is addressing doctrinal errors from the 1st Century Church. His focus is to answer faith issues for Jewish believers. He outlines God's faithful from the "Old days". We would say from the Old Testament. This passage is the "Hall of Faith", and the final two verses from the chapter could turn your world upside down. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;What did the Hebrews writer mean?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Let me know what you think.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;God bless,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;p.s. Would you prefer that I provide the text of the bible passages or not? I am considering dropping the use of the biblical text and only giving the citations. Please weigh in, if you have a preference.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-7101925767361613853?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/7101925767361613853/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=7101925767361613853&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/7101925767361613853?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/7101925767361613853?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/Yvyv3v2NwG0/can-we-name-any-souls-who-were-saved.html" title="Can we name any souls who were saved under the Old Covenant?" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RjuT8tTDtYI/AAAAAAAAAOE/Sb5nDgFYXQA/s72-c/rahab.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/can-we-name-any-souls-who-were-saved.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DE4NR3o6fip7ImA9WBFbEk0.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-4482607195584315073</id><published>2007-05-03T10:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-05-03T10:43:16.416-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-05-03T10:43:16.416-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Prayer" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Family" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Faith" /><title>Update on my Father-in-law</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Gary remains in the critical care unit of Presbyterian Hospital.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;The principal issues that the lead trauma surgeon has high-lighted are his internal organ functions in his abdominal cavity.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;His kidney function is very low, which necessitated the use of dialysis treatment, starting Monday April 30. (The doctors have indicated that the kidneys could recover sufficiently to resume normal function.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;The stomach, gall blader, colon, and liver are all very low in their respective functions.  Generally, the doctors have indicated that with the dialysis treatment that Gary is receiving, we should begin to see all the internal organs to recover more quickly.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Therefore, we remain hopeful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;The sedatives that had been used last week to keep Gary in a comatose state, have been reduced significantly.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;This should begin to allow him to regain consiousness.  The extent of brain damage is unknown.  The physicians have indicated that the contusions were minor, but they have no knowledge of how this will have affected him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;My wife sat with Gary yesterday evening and talked to him and held his hand.  As she prepared to come home she noticed that his eyelids appeared to open a little bit.  The nurse told her that this may be his begining to regain consiousness.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;This was a postive sign for her.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Linda began her physical therapy yesterday, Wednesday May 2.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;She was released from the hospital last Friday evening.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;The daughters spent the weekend with her, each taking a shift, and this week there has been a crew of family and friends helping her.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Linda, obviously, wants to be with Gary as often as she can.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;She asked to stay with him overnight last evening, but that would not be good for her health and recovery.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;We continue to request for your prayers for Gary especially, but also for Linda, and finally for the entire family.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Courier New;"&gt;God bless,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Courier New;"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-4482607195584315073?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/4482607195584315073/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=4482607195584315073&amp;isPopup=true" title="2 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/4482607195584315073?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/4482607195584315073?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/C3AJ8Qy9QBw/update-on-my-father-in-law.html" title="Update on my Father-in-law" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">2</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/05/update-on-my-father-in-law.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DkMNSXs7cCp7ImA9WBFUFU8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-8105054835583621827</id><published>2007-04-25T13:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-04-25T13:08:18.508-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-04-25T13:08:18.508-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Prayer" /><title>for he said, “Up to this point the Lord has helped us!”</title><content type="html">&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Things are going well for Gary and Linda, as well as for all who know and love them.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We remain confident that Gary and Linda’s recovery will bring honor and glory to Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore we are continuing to pray for them, and we are joyfully expectant of the miracle that is occurring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We ask that you please pray boldly and confidently for Gary and Linda, to the glory of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God bless all,&lt;br /&gt;David S. Martin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;12 Samuel then took a large stone and placed it between the towns of Mizpah and Jeshanah.﻿&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=35012214#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;﻿ He named it Ebenezer—“the stone of help”—for he said, “Up to this point the Lord has helped us!”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=35012214#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=35012214#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;* &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;1 Samuel 7:12&lt;br /&gt;As in Greek version; Hebrew reads Shen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=35012214#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 1997 . Tyndale House: Wheaton, Ill.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-8105054835583621827?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/8105054835583621827/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=8105054835583621827&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/8105054835583621827?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/8105054835583621827?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/7pnqJGJgST4/for-he-said-up-to-this-point-lord-has.html" title="for he said, “Up to this point the Lord has helped us!”" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/04/for-he-said-up-to-this-point-lord-has.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DUMNRHc4fip7ImA9WBFVEkQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-8271145759197882153</id><published>2007-04-10T19:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-04-11T08:18:15.936-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-04-11T08:18:15.936-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Holy Spirit" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Salvation" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Empty Tomb" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jesus Christ" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Power" /><title>What is the significance of Jesus empty tomb?</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RhzfnXubrbI/AAAAAAAAAN8/oOXcA7g1StI/s1600-h/The%2520Empty%2520Tomb.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5052158749479513522" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RhzfnXubrbI/AAAAAAAAAN8/oOXcA7g1StI/s200/The%2520Empty%2520Tomb.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;In light of the faithful of the Old Testament, e.g. Adam, Abraham, Job, Judah, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Rahab&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, King David.&lt;br /&gt;These men and women didn't know Jesus' victory over death.&lt;br /&gt;They were not baptized into Jesus' death burial and r&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;esurrection&lt;/span&gt;,&lt;/span&gt; as the apostle Paul describes in Romans 6:2-10.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If indeed, God's mercy and grace does extend to some, e.g. the faithful of the Old Testament, who didn't have the knowledge of Jesus, why did Jesus even "waste our time", by giving us the Great Commission, and telling us that 'as we go to all people, we &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;should teach&lt;/span&gt;, baptize and train them to obey God's command to Love?" (I am asking a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;rhetorical&lt;/span&gt; question.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer to this question is the "&lt;strong&gt;power&lt;/strong&gt;" of the Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;When we fail to obey the Great Commission, then the "&lt;strong&gt;power&lt;/strong&gt;" is not shared. When the power of the Holy Spirit, which can &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;change people&lt;/span&gt;, cultures, communities, is not shared, people live &lt;em&gt;powerless&lt;/em&gt; lives.&lt;br /&gt;They still may hope, yet, they have no assurance of the thing, for which they blindly hope.&lt;br /&gt;The incredible "&lt;strong&gt;Holy Spirit Power&lt;/strong&gt;" resides in our ability to share a believer's confident assurance of the hope that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;belongs to&lt;/span&gt; all who know Jesus Christ, because we have been buried in the grave of baptism, and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;we no&lt;/span&gt; longer fear anything that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;satan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; can throw at us. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus name carries the confident assurance of the thing that all faithful people hope in our hearts.This includes faithful people like Melchizedek, David &amp;amp; Job. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;They did not have the evidence of Jesus &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Christ's empty&lt;/span&gt; tomb. We however do have evidence. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Therefore we have powerful evidence to share, with them in the world &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;who are&lt;/span&gt; still on trial. These folks have a need for the evidence we have.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is evidence which will show their innocence to the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;charges that&lt;/span&gt; are being presented to the Father, charges for which, our prosecutor and adversary, i.e. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;satan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;., is attempting to convict all mankind. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God bless, and share the exculpatory evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-8271145759197882153?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/8271145759197882153/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=8271145759197882153&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/8271145759197882153?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/8271145759197882153?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/Dg-WaXHvgwo/what-is-significance-of-jesus-empty.html" title="What is the significance of Jesus empty tomb?" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RhzfnXubrbI/AAAAAAAAAN8/oOXcA7g1StI/s72-c/The%2520Empty%2520Tomb.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/04/what-is-significance-of-jesus-empty.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DEUAQ3czfyp7ImA9WB5SFUQ.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-153341146279271178</id><published>2007-04-05T10:09:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-06-11T16:10:42.987-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-06-11T16:10:42.987-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Nuance" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Agapē" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="War" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Faith" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Paradox" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Peace" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology of nuance" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pacifism" /><title>What does God say about "Pacifism"?</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_C._York"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5049982489024862930" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RhUkUVxFGtI/AAAAAAAAAN0/rWbzgOQHcHM/s200/5773_0018.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;This issue is being or has been considered by all, who are involved in Faith.&lt;br /&gt;The non-violence thing was a big struggle for me.&lt;br /&gt;I've struggled with deep-seated angst over giving-up my "Republican" partisan worldview.&lt;br /&gt;I've struggled with deep-seated American boot-strap theology.&lt;br /&gt;Here are some examples of boot-strap theology that permeates the American Christian Culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;God helps those who help themselves, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;God expects Christians to use common sense,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;"God made men, but Sam Colt made them equal" or Trust God and obtain a concealed carry license, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Boot-strap theology tends to add at least one extraneous element to faith; an element that doesn't devolve from scripture and typically is antithetical to Jesus' example and teaching.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;In other words, it is usually heretical. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;It took some time, prayer and serious bible study to internalize what I now believe. Incidentally, what I now believe is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; "non-violence/anti-war."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;That is also the point, that is difficult to really communicate well, because I believe in a nuance theology, which most believers don't accept, or furthermore, they don't even understand the concept that I'm advocating through my writings, at least not until they read them a half-dozen times, and even then I may appear insane. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/14071285307512720145"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Matt,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt; my fellow brother in Christ, who has been writing me about my blog essays, probably has an understanding of this difficult principle of "nuance" in God, but I should let him comment to that point for himself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;However, I would confidently say, that most, maybe (90.9%), of Jesus followers have not grappled with Christ's seeming paradoxical positions on the Law. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;We may be afraid to question God's apparent paradox, because when we question God, then we feel that we are "testing" Him. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Matthew 5&lt;br /&gt;17 “Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to fulfill them. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;18 I assure you, until heaven and earth disappear, even the smallest detail of God’s law will remain until its purpose is achieved. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;19 So if you break the smallest commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be great in the Kingdom of Heaven.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;20 “But I warn you—unless you obey God better than the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees do, you can’t enter the Kingdom of Heaven at all!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;We maintain that the Law has been &lt;em&gt;left in the Old Testament&lt;/em&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;We state that Jesus fulfilled the Law for us, and thus we are not bound by the Law. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Yet, how do we ignore verse nineteen? Because, the "Kingdom of Heaven" of which Jesus speaks, is a New Covenant Kingdom, not the Old Covenant system. Jesus clearly places His comments under the purview of the New Testament. Here is an apparent paradox.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;My answer to this problematic passage is not, ultimately, going to be answered in this post. (If someone writes me or comments to it, I may pick it up in more detail.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Nevertheless, my point of God being a &lt;u&gt;God of nuance&lt;/u&gt;, should make people stop and think for a moment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;There are no easy "How To" books to answer the questions of faith and doubt. All of the books that are on &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Mardel's&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Wal&lt;/span&gt;-Mart's shelves, which purport to have the answers are just "selling something", and, truth be told, there-in lies a &lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;big component&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt; of the problem for "American Faith". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Just like the boot-strap theology mentioned earlier, American faith tends to add at least one extraneous element to faith that truly corrupts faith at its core, unless properly handled in our heart and mind.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Satan uses subtle distortions of God's words to warp us in our hearts/minds. He did this in the confrontation of Eve and Adam in the Garden. He also at&lt;em&gt;tempted&lt;/em&gt; the same with Jesus Christ, in the desert temptation. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Satan knows scripture. Satan doesn't just reject God's words, he adds an angle to them. He slips in extraneous elements, "just to make God's will more clear."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I see "Theology of Nuance" being a Spiritual element to all that is good and all that is bad in our fallen world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Nuance can be used to hide and deceive in the demon's mission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;And Nuance can be graciously accepted for freedom from Jesus' mission. Jesus noted this gracious nuance in Matthew 12:1-14. Look at just a small &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;snigglet&lt;/span&gt; of Jesus encounter with the Religious Pharisees. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;3 But Jesus said to them, “Haven’t you ever read in the Scriptures what King David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He went into the house of God, and they ate the special bread reserved for the priests alone. That was breaking the law, too. 5 And haven’t you ever read in the law of Moses that the priests on duty in the Temple may work on the Sabbath? 6 I tell you, there is one here who is even greater than the Temple! 7 But you would not have condemned those who &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;aren't&lt;/span&gt; guilty if you knew the meaning of this Scripture: ‘I want you to be merciful; I don’t want your sacrifices.’﻿&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=153341146279271178#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;﻿ 8 For I, the Son of Man, am master even of the Sabbath.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;amp;postID=153341146279271178#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=153341146279271178#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;* &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Matthew 12:7&lt;br /&gt;Hos 6:6.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a title="" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2" href="http://www2.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=35012214&amp;amp;postID=153341146279271178#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;font-size:85%;"&gt;Holy Bible : New Living Translation. 1997 . Tyndale House: &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Wheaton&lt;/span&gt;, Ill.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Jesus admits that King David broke the law of Moses, yet was innocent. So, by God's own mouth King David is a law breaker and yet, still he remains innocent. There is the graciousness of God's nuance. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;But, we must accept that grace. The Religious people of Jesus day, e.g. Pharisees, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Sadducees&lt;/span&gt; &amp; Scribes, would not accept the gracious nuance of God's extravagant offer of freedom from guilt.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;And unfortunately, the Religious people of Jesus day (today) in His Kingdom of Heaven, still are reluctant to accept God's nuance theology of grace. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Who are these "Religious People" today? They often times are &lt;strong&gt;us&lt;/strong&gt;, i.e. me (D.S. Martin), you, our grandmas and grandpas. They are our deacons, ministers, elders, they are humans who look for easy self-help books to tell us the one, two and three steps to heaven, or the "5 steps to salvation."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Therefore, these questions, of God's seeming contradictions, will remain in the back of our minds &amp;amp; hearts, until they become a rusty cattle prod for &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;satan&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;He stabs us in our backs, or backsides, where we become infected with rules, self-made lists, unholy laws, and finally, all of these produce festering doubts that should never have been left unattended.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;So then..., here is the question that continues to revolve around whether the commands of Jesus, &lt;em&gt;to Love God and neighbor&lt;/em&gt; are an advocacy to be anti-violent &amp; particularly anti-war.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I think I've addressed this before, I have heard the comment about 'Love thine enemy doesn't include killing them.' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Yet, this simply brings "Love" to a mathematical formula of 'Agapē=non-violence', albeit at the very extremely "low end" of agape. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I am not inclined to allow the assertion that Love(Agapē) equates to non-violence. The commands of the Lord are "Love God and Love neighbor as thyself." That command could have been more detailed, but then we would get back to the circumstance of the old law. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;How far should pacifism be taken?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I don't believe that pacifism is a requirement, pacifism is another extraneous element added to Love (Agapē) that will corrupt it, just as surely as those concepts stated above, which are at the extreme other end of the spectrum. I have heard one of my formerly favorite political commentators state that 'people who are moderates or who are middle of the road, often get run over.' I really like this quote, because it underscores the biblical truth of nuance theology. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;And to this above quote, I would like to add; People who are moderate, are also they who will end up on a cross for their neighbor's salvation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Agapē needs no qualifiers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Agapē stands alone. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Agapē doesn't require added elements. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Agapē is not pacifism. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Agapē always allows for God's Holy Spirit to answer questions of faith, in the time of need. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Luke 11&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;11 “And when you are brought to trial in the synagogues and before rulers and authorities, don’t worry about what to say in your defense, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you what needs to be said even as you are standing there.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;People demand an answer of when disciples should be "peaceful" or when Christians should take up arms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;We want a "rule" to follow, but the only rule given is "Love."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Although it is not an example from scripture, I believe that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_C._York" spellchecked="true"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Sgt. Alvin York &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;had the Spirit of God in him and showed it, in the way he responded to this very question. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I won't give all of the details you can study his example for yourself, or just pick-up the movie at Block Buster. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034167/" spellchecked="true"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;Gary Cooper portrays Mr. York in the true story of how Sgt. York became the greatest hero of WWI&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;. To my knowledge Mr. York did not select the label "Pacifist" for himself. That label was applied by the world. Mr. York simply and unpreteniously lived Agapē as he witnessed it in Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;God bless you and may His Agapē motivate you to a cross, for your neighbor,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-153341146279271178?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/153341146279271178/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=153341146279271178&amp;isPopup=true" title="1 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/153341146279271178?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/153341146279271178?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/H019NwMJT90/what-does-god-say-about-pacifism.html" title="What does God say about &quot;Pacifism&quot;?" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp1.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RhUkUVxFGtI/AAAAAAAAAN0/rWbzgOQHcHM/s72-c/5773_0018.jpg" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">1</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/04/what-does-god-say-about-pacifism.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;C0QER3o-cSp7ImA9WB5SF0g.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-6879936650151705301</id><published>2007-03-21T10:24:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-06-13T11:15:06.459-05:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-06-13T11:15:06.459-05:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sin" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Mankind" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="C. S. Lewis" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Global Warming" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Screwtape" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Idolatry" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Secularism" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Demons" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pride" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Literature" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Humanism" /><title>The Fact of godlike Human power (A letter from Screwtape to his nephew, Wormwood)</title><content type="html">&lt;div align="right"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;color:#999999;"&gt;(&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters"&gt;The Screwtape Letters&lt;/a&gt;: A 21st century addendum)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831"&gt;&lt;img style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 200px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Thescrewtapeletters.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;Dearest Wormwood, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;What has motivated your doubt in the fact of Human global warming. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;The scientific-media has gone to great lengths to console the carnal populace with the knowledge that they may all, individually, have a godlike power over the fact of this Human imposed warmth. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;I am concerned that you are giving up on the fact of Human global warming, so easily. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;Dearest nephew Wormwood, you must be aware of the vast amounts of blood and treasure, &lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt;(not to mention the "hot air" a.k.a. warm CO2)&lt;/span&gt;, which has been spilled by our sacred &amp; faithful scientific-media fathers, a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;ll of which has been done with sanctimonious piety, (as provided by the pROUD sPIRIT of our father down below), and this hard labor has been done so that these mortals may take a prideful comfort, in the fact that indeed, there exists an Human power to provide global HVAC to the masses. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;My dear little worm, I recognize that you, probably, remain hopeful that Earth may be moving into a warming era of Human history, not unlike our blessed home beyond the Styx, however nephew, If you should be so FOOLISH as to deny the fact of Human culpability in the warmth issue, then you are, by necessary inference, denying the &lt;em&gt;almost&lt;/em&gt; divine power of the fact of secular Humanism. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;My wormy little nephew, you also appear to be denying the fact that secular Human activities holds the power to alternately, provide either perdition or salvation by the shear force of Human will. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;Are you daft? Do you not have enough sense to know that Humans must, at all costs, have and hold a proud comfort in their ability to "pull themselves up by their own bootstraps"? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;You must understand that any silly little consession by you, (a very junior Tempter), is an unforgivable sacrilege, and the penalty for such heresy is no small matter. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;Lest you think that our adversary's quaint little book should hold any sway over our father down below, please remember that he is only bemused by the words "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;color:#000000;"&gt;Therefore, my most wormy little kin, &lt;u&gt;you must&lt;/u&gt;, with all haste, confirm in your patient's heart &amp;amp; mind, that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Human activity is the only physical matter, that holds power to "save"&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. Whatever "save" means is irrelevant, because Humans rarely take time to consider such words in anything other than a temporal sense. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Carnal blessings, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:courier new;"&gt;Your Affectionate Uncle Screwtape &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-6879936650151705301?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/6879936650151705301/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=6879936650151705301&amp;isPopup=true" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/6879936650151705301?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/6879936650151705301?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/v_bNnvH8fVg/fact-of-godlike-human-power-letter-from.html" title="The Fact of godlike Human power (A letter from Screwtape to his nephew, Wormwood)" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/03/fact-of-godlike-human-power-letter-from.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;D0UHRn4zfyp7ImA9WBFXFE8.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-2746805166765677400</id><published>2007-03-20T13:50:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-03-20T15:13:57.087-06:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-03-20T15:13:57.087-06:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Hope" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Sacrifice" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Pain" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Agapē" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="War" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Life" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Purpose" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Need" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Innocence" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Suffering" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Love" /><title>Agapē is needed today, as much as ever before!</title><content type="html">&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/02/follow-up-to-questions-for-you-believer.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RgA8mwy9v9I/AAAAAAAAANg/r3awzVi0r9E/s200/wood-agape-wanted-sign.png" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5044098219286314962" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Luke 17:2&lt;br /&gt;"It would be better to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around the neck than to face the punishment in store for harming one of these little ones."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/19/iraq.children/index.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RgA7hAy9v7I/AAAAAAAAANQ/ZHLLzFeiytw/s1600/Silent1.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5044097020990439346" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/19/iraq.children/index.html"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RgA7awy9v6I/AAAAAAAAANI/TBG97f3OwJE/s1600/Silent2.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5044096913616256930" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-2746805166765677400?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/2746805166765677400/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=2746805166765677400&amp;isPopup=true" title="3 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/2746805166765677400?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/2746805166765677400?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/c68AWaSjPUI/agap-is-needed-today-as-much-as-ever.html" title="Agapē is needed today, as much as ever before!" /><author><name>D.S. Martin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06103460119867744783</uri><email>ccwman21@gmail.com</email><gd:extendedProperty name="OpenSocialUserId" value="00484037506012006779" /></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://bp2.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/RgA8mwy9v9I/AAAAAAAAANg/r3awzVi0r9E/s72-c/wood-agape-wanted-sign.png" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total xmlns:thr="http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0">3</thr:total><feedburner:origLink>http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/03/agap-is-needed-today-as-much-as-ever.html</feedburner:origLink></entry><entry gd:etag="W/&quot;DUUBQH05eCp7ImA9WBFWEEw.&quot;"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35012214.post-4641117369888069971</id><published>2007-03-19T21:50:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-03-27T11:40:51.320-06:00</updated><app:edited xmlns:app="http://www.w3.org/2007/app">2007-03-27T11:40:51.320-06:00</app:edited><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Theology" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Family" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jehovah" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Faith" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Yahweh" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="belief" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Creator" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Jesus Christ" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Deity" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Holy Spirit" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Trinity" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Messiah" /><category scheme="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#" term="Unity" /><title>Why do I believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and the Creator of the universe?</title><content type="html">&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/02/follow-up-to-questions-for-you-believer.html"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5043856872189050674" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/Rf9hGgy9vzI/AAAAAAAAAMQ/_hc7ZG7EjSA/s200/God2-Sistine_Chapel.png" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/02/power-of-holy-spirit-rests-in-gods.html"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5043855570813959970" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_T6AHxWpdMNI/Rf9f6wy9vyI/AAAAAAAAAMI/HUAkjOtzDEY/s400/CREATION+OF+HEAVEN+AND+EARTH.gif" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2006/12/how-well-does-yahweh-know-jesus-answer_16.html#comment-5769390956937712608"&gt;&lt;u&gt;This post takes me back to the questions that Matt asked last fall&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;? These questions are my personal matters of faith and the logical reasons for that faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2006/11/why-i-write.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;I have written previously on this blog, that God doesn’t require “blind faith”. “Blind faith” would be defined as; Belief in something, without supporting evidence for that belief.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, my faith is built on evidence. My faith hinges on logic and reason. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2006/12/and-i-will-give-to-each-one-white-stone.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;My faith is, like Jacob’s faith, a struggle that goes on between God, man, and me.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt; (Genesis 32:28)&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, I identify more with Israel than I do with Abraham. Abraham is, to me, the exception that proves the rule, but Israel was always looking for an angle, something to put himself in a better position to receive God’s blessings.&lt;br /&gt;This is how I have felt through my faith struggles. I seem to be reaching a point, where I can say that I have accepted man and God, on God’s terms, instead of mine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With respect to Jesus the person, the terms for Him are important to understand our questions and help in answering the underlying question, of “Is Jesus God?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;What does it mean to say that Jesus is the Son of God? And how does God have a Son? I have written about this in two recent posts 1) &lt;i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/01/romance-pride-jealousy-deceit-marriage.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Romance, Pride, Jealousy, Deceit, Marriage, and God&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, and the follow-up post; 2) &lt;i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2007/02/family-part-two.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Family (Part Two)&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, so I won’t spend a lot of time here. Suffice it to say, that the Yahweh/Jehovah (see “2” below to find the explanation for name variations and why these variations occur) is a Unity of individual Spirits that are known individually as Holy Spirit, Father, and Son. Each individual within the Trinity always seeks to bring honor and glory to the others in the Trinity. I do not believe that Jesus is the physical progeny of the Holy Spirit and Father. But rather, God’s physical creation of the family as a Unity is symbolic of the relationship that exists between the Holy Spirit, the Father and the Son. Is that clear enough?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;What is a “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/messiah.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;messiah&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;”? (Follow the hyperlink for detailed analysis.) Messiah was a term for &lt;b&gt;any person who was anointed by God’s command and choosing&lt;/b&gt; and it applies to &lt;b&gt;prophets, priests and kings.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;· King Saul was God’s anointed (messiah). God selected him and directed Samuel to anoint Saul 1Samuel 10:1.&lt;br /&gt;· David was anointed (messiah) by Samuel also in 1Samuel 16:12, but still Saul was anointed by God. The fact that David had been anointed did not reverse God’s anointing of Saul, so here we had two messiah kings of Israel.&lt;br /&gt;· Samuel was anointed (messiah) as prophet.&lt;br /&gt;· Moses and Aaron were anointed (messiah) as priests of God.&lt;br /&gt;· The psalmist writes of a “super” messiah in Psalm 45:7 &lt;b&gt;“You love what is right and hate what is wrong. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you, pouring out the oil of joy on you more than on anyone else.”&lt;/b&gt; the point that is made here is that, this anointed king will receive an anointing that will be unrivaled among mankind. Therefore, this “Anointed” will be the culmination of the prophecy from Genesis 3:15, &lt;b&gt;“From now on, you and the woman will be enemies, and your offspring and her offspring will be enemies. He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;Why or how does the name &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://jesus8880.com/chapters/gematria/yehoshua.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Jesus, equate to the name Joshua&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt; from the Exodus story in Numbers 13:1-16? If you follow the hyperlink noted above it gives the details for this name transliteration. It is a very simple answer and it is similar to the answer for how Yahweh’s name appears in the New Testament, the meaning of Yahweh/Jehovah is translated into the Greek equivalent of “I Am”, rather than being transliterated into the same Greek sound or phonetic equivalent (I have written about this extensively in these posts; 1) &lt;i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2006/12/how-well-does-yahweh-know-jesus-answer.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;How well does Yahweh know Jesus? (Answer to anonymous; Part 1)&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;/i&gt; and 2) &lt;i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/2006/12/how-well-does-yahweh-know-jesus-answer_16.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;How well does Yahweh know Jesus? (Answer to anonymous; Part 2)&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;/i&gt;. So, essentially there are two ways to translate words from an original language to an alternate language. You can carry the meaning over, or you can carry the sound over, but you cannot do both, unless there is a very close similarity and development of the two languages, e.g. Spanish to Portuguese. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://eternityconsidered.blogspot.com/index.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Matt, my blogger friend in Japan&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;, will probably relate to these ideas, because he has seen this in action while living in Japan. I also was there in 1989, and I found that my first name, David, would always be pronounced “Day-bee-doe”, because the Japanese would transliterate the phonetics as best as possible. Japanese don’t hear the phonetically hard “v”; furthermore the Japanese language cannot have syllables that end in consonants. The transliteral solution is found by changing the hard “v” to “b” and adding the vowel sound “ē”, incidentally Japanese must also add the “ō” to the last syllable to make the “d ō” sound. All of this occurs, because the name is transliterated rather than the actual meaning of my name, being translated. How many people know what “David” &lt;span style="font-family:times new roman;"&gt;(דָּוִד,)&lt;/span&gt; means? Well, that would be my name if it were translated.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;Is Jesus the Creator of the Universe? Well, this one is straight out of Colossians 1:16-17 &lt;b&gt;“Christ is the one through whom God created everything in heaven and earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see—kings, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities. Everything has been created through him and for him. He existed before everything else began, and he holds all creation together.”&lt;/b&gt; I don’t have any problem with this. Yes, I understand what is described in the nature of God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;1. &lt;b&gt;The Father&lt;/b&gt; is executive. He is the planner. He sets the vision. His will be done. He administrates the purpose. He is the Captain of the ship. He is the General of the Army.&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;b&gt;The Son&lt;/b&gt; is the labor. He is the active. He fulfills the vision. He completes the will of the executive. He is the XO for the Captain of Ship. He is the Cavalry and Infantry and Armor of the Army.&lt;br /&gt;3. &lt;b&gt;The Holy Spirit&lt;/b&gt; is the material supply chain. He produces &amp; provides the power. He is the materiel supply line. He delivers the fuel to the Armor. He delivers ammunition to the Infantry. He provides counsel and support to the wounded. He is the Navy Corpsman &amp;amp; Army Combat Field Medic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;color:#000000;"&gt;Jesus is the active and visible side of Yahweh. He is the Creator.&lt;br /&gt;But, all human endeavors follow the example of God, in one way or another, whether it is Civil Government or Corporate Enterprise or Team Sports or Domestic Family or Military Defense. We always follow the principle established by the Father, Son, &amp;amp; Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God bless,&lt;br /&gt;DSM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/faves?sub=addfavbtn&amp;add=http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/15/383948/Wrestle-with-demons.jpg " alt="Add to Technorati Favorites" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/35012214-4641117369888069971?l=theologyofnuance.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel="replies" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://theologyofnuance.blogspot.com/feeds/4641117369888069971/comments/default" title="Post Comments" /><link rel="replies" type="text/html" href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=35012214&amp;postID=4641117369888069971&amp;isPopup=true" title="4 Comments" /><link rel="edit" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/4641117369888069971?v=2" /><link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="http://www.blogger.com/feeds/35012214/posts/default/4641117369888069971?v=2" /><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheologyOfNuance/~3/YWkKUv3D_0U/why-do-i-believe-that-jesus-is-messiah.html" title="Why do I believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and the Creator of the universe?" /><author><name>D.S. 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