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style="text-align: justify;"&gt;My &lt;a href="http://sojo.net/magazine/2012/01/way-peace-and-grace"&gt;feature article&lt;/a&gt; just came out in the latest edition (Jan, 2012) of &lt;a href="http://sojo.net/magazine"&gt;Sojourners Magazine&lt;/a&gt;. It is called:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"The Way of Peace and Grace: How Paul wrestled with violent passages in the Hebrew Bible"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can read it online at the SoJo website for free (you just need to register).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the title suggests, it deals with how we can faithfully wrestle with really disturbing passages in the Bible that seem to advocate and even command committing violence in God's name. As I've &lt;a href="http://www.therebelgod.com/2011/11/does-defending-bible-mean-advocating.html"&gt;mentioned before&lt;/a&gt;, most commentaries tend to either justify or downplay these passages. What I propose is a very different approach: if we learn to read the Bible the way that Jesus and Paul did, we can deal with them like they did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the Sojourners article I deal in particular with how Paul wrestles with violent passages from the Old Testament, disarming them and putting them under Christ. You'll need to read the article for the details, but Paul's approach is pretty awesome. If Paul read the Old Testament like this, then I think its fair to say we would be on pretty solid ground if we read it that way too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm really excited about this article, and am thrilled to finally be able to share it. As far as I know, it represents a unique contribution to biblical scholarship. I've found scholars making similar conclusions about Paul, buried in the middle of some obscure footnote in a dense technical commentary, but I have not seen anyone connect all the dots like this. In fact, books like the &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Commentary-New-Testament-Use-Old/dp/0801026938/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1323751608&amp;amp;sr=8-3"&gt;Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament&lt;/a&gt; miss (or intentionally omit?) this pattern in Paul's reading entirely, even though Paul does this &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;constantly&lt;/span&gt;. In doing so, they completely miss how Paul reads his Bible and arrives at a gospel of grace that is so different from how he previously read his Bible before his conversion to Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's more important than scholarship though is how we, as followers of Christ, read the Bible as Scripture. Adopting Paul's way of wrestling with these violent passages opens up a way for all of us to read the Bible that does not force us to check our conscience at the door. Jesus and Paul didn't,  and neither should we!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if you've ever wondered how Jesus or Paul could have read the Old Testament and arrived at a loving, radically grace-focused understanding of God, then check out &lt;a href="http://sojo.net/magazine/2012/01/way-peace-and-grace"&gt;the article&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-5483011198712599643?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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This time around they are declaring victory  because &lt;a href="http://nation.foxnews.com/war-christmas/2011/11/28/we-re-winning-war-christmas" target="_hplink"&gt;as they report&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Walgreens  is the latest store to return to explicit references to Christmas,  switching its position a day after some Christian groups threatened to  boycott over its generic holiday wording."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What I'd like to remind these "Christian groups" is that Christmas  isn't actually supposed to be about shopping at all. We Christians don't  need to fight to have Christmas associated with shopping, we need to  fight for it &lt;em&gt;not to be&lt;/em&gt;. You're fighting the wrong war guys. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So let's take a moment to remember what Christmas is really about:  Christmas celebrates the story of God coming among us in the most humble  of circumstances. Christ was born in a manger to a homeless teenage  girl named Mary. These humble beginnings are in keeping with the  ministry of Jesus which was focused on the poor, the sick, and the  outcast. Jesus teaches us that the way we treat "the least of these" is  how we treat him. It's a story about God coming among us, meeting us in  the middle of our need.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;With that backdrop in mind, let's also remember who the real Santa  Claus was. Yes, Virginia, there really was a Santa Claus, but he didn't  live on the North Pole, he lived in Asia Minor. Saint Nicholas was known  for his love for children, and his generosity to the those in need,  often given in secret. For example, one story tells of a poor father who  was unable to provide a dowry for his daughters. At the time that meant  that they could not marry, and so were destined to be sold into  slavery. As legend has it, Nicholas secretly placed bags of gold in the  girl's shoes and stockings, hung by the fire to dry. So those Christmas  stockings you hang by the chimney are symbols of liberating the poor  from the bondage of slavery.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The moral of all this is that the original Christmas story and the  story of Saint Nick are both focused on caring for the least and on  compassion. So what if we remembered that this Christmas, and spent a  little less money shopping for all those gifts we don't really need.  Then instead of standing in line at the mall or stuck in traffic, we  could spent more time with people we love. And what if we took all that  money we saved, and &lt;a href="http://donate.worldvision.org/OA_HTML/xxwv2ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?lpos=top_drp_WaysToGive_Gift+Catalog&amp;amp;go=gift&amp;amp;&amp;amp;section=10389" target="_hplink"&gt;gave some of it away&lt;/a&gt; to people who are really in need? To the poor, the hungry, the hurting, the lonely, the sick? That's what the folks at &lt;a href="http://ac.wcrossing.org/" target="_hplink"&gt;Advent Conspiracy&lt;/a&gt; are asking. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So maybe the way we really should be celebrating Christmas is by  caring for the least, rather than shopping til we drop. Maybe we should  be teaching our kids lessons about compassion and giving, instead of  about getting more and more stuff. And... just maybe... Christmas should  be about showing "peace on earth and good will towards all mankind,"  rather than on getting mad at people who say "happy holidays" to us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9IN0W3gjnNE" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-1739349357929419334?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/s43m3aB1rdc" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2011/12/real-war-on-christmas.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_g7KcbMxmLEU/R2cc8E_YWmI/AAAAAAAACrI/c1fEUaFV_l0/s72-c/HandGunOrnament.gif" height="72" width="72" /><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-8391819670899764166</guid><pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-11-28T08:59:24.822-08:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">exegesis</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bible</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">violence</category><title>Does Defending the Bible Mean Advocating Violence?</title><description>&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;There are many unsettling passages in the Bible. Consider these two  verses that you will probably never hear read from the pulpit on a  Sunday morning: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;"This is what the Lord Almighty says ... attack the Amalekites  ... Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants"&lt;/em&gt; (1 Samuel 15:2-3).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;"O daughter Babylon ... Blessed is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks!"&lt;/em&gt; (Psalm 137:8-9).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Note that these passages are not simply about God's judgment. They  are commands for people to kill other people in God's name -- to kill  infants in fact. How can we, as Christians, reconcile passages like  these with the God revealed in Jesus who commands us to love our  enemies? The two pictures could not be further apart.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Many biblical scholars attempt to defend Scripture by downplaying or justifying the violence in some way. The 1984 &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Knowledge-Commentary-Old-Testament/dp/0882078135/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1321030457&amp;amp;sr=8-1" target="_hplink"&gt;Bible Knowledge Commentary&lt;/a&gt;,  for example, argues that the genocide recorded in the battle of Jericho  was justified so that Israel would not be "infected by the degenerate  religion of the Canaanites," declaring that "pure faith and worship"  could only be maintained "by the complete elimination of the Canaanites  themselves." This argument bears a chilling similarity to those used by  the Third Reich. Yet, this seems to be completely lost on the above  commentator. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Commenting on the Psalm above, the more recent 2008 &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Psalms-Two-Horizons-Testament-Commentary/dp/0802827063/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1321032881&amp;amp;sr=8-6" target="_hplink"&gt;Two Horizons commentary&lt;/a&gt;  suggests that this prayer would be less more palatable to us if it we  thought of it in more abstract terms: "The modern reader ... would be  much less troubled by the simple statement that it would be good when  the evil Babylonian empire came to its divinely predicted end." In other  words, atrocities and violence are less disturbing when its victims are  thought of in impersonal and abstract terms. Wow.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is frankly hard to imagine anything more morally abhorrent than  smashing a baby's heads against rocks, or committing genocide in God's  name. Such actions are simply and always categorically unjustifiable. It  would be hard to conceive of something more self-evident than this. In  fact, the only reason one would even think to question this is because  of an &lt;em&gt;a priori&lt;/em&gt; belief that biblical commands override  conscience. When the Bible helps us challenge and deepen our moral  vision and character this is surely a good thing, but when it leads us  to abandon our most basic notions of morality, something has gone  horribly wrong. The fact that so many biblical commentaries continue to  attempt to justify the biblical genocide accounts reveals a profoundly  disturbing disconnect between biblical scholarship and ethics. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So what causes otherwise decent and loving people like this to defend  genocide in God's name? I think the problem lies in the basic approach  they take to reading the Bible, which seeks to show how it all fits  together in harmony. It's not just conservative scholars either; I was  taught this same approach, and I'd bet you were too. In a way, it makes  sense: If the Bible is the inspired word of God, then shouldn't it have  one consistent message? So we seek to read in a way that weaves all  these disparate parts together and end up with a rather schizophrenic  picture of God. As we can see, when applied to passages like the ones  above it leads otherwise decent people to become advocates of appalling  moral atrocity. And what is perhaps even more shocking, they think that  in doing so they are defending God's honor by defending the Bible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I'd like to propose another way of reading the Bible that, rather  than trying to justify everything the Bible says, instead seeks to  identify a trajectory of moral development, and then follow in that same  trajectory. I'll illustrate this principle with two examples:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The first is the Apostle Paul's core message that the Gospel is  available to both Jews and Gentiles. Now, if we read the Bible with a  proof-texting approach, we would need to conclude that Paul is out of  line with Jesus here whose ministry was focused on his fellow Jews. As  Jesus put it when a Canaanite woman appealed to him to heal her son, "I  was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew 15:24).  We do not see Jesus establishing a new religion, but rather him  reforming his own. Paul in contrast breaks with Jewish law in order to  open up the Gospel to all people, going beyond the boundaries of  religion. So there seems to be a conflict here that many scholars have  noted.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;However, if we look at the teachings of Jesus we can also see a  trajectory he sets away from nationalistic and racial boundaries. He  expands the definition of "family" to include "everyone who does the  will of God" as his true "brothers" (Luke 8:21). Here he is redrawing  familiar boundaries of solidarity to go beyond family, tribe or nation.  All the more, Jesus was known for siding with the sinner, the outcast,  the marginalized, the least. Perhaps the most striking example is his  well known command to "love your enemy" which completely shatters all  categories of "us vs. them" thinking. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Looking at this trajectory Jesus sets up, we can see that Paul, in  expanding the Gospel beyond the confines of his own religion is in fact  following Jesus in that same trajectory. He is taking it farther than  Jesus did, but in doing so he is following in the trajectory Jesus set.  Based purely on building proof-text evidence of what Jesus taught, there  is insufficient grounds for Paul to declare that followers of Jesus no  longer need to be circumcised or to follow the food laws of Moses. What  Paul is doing, however, is not following the letter, but the spirit of  what Jesus taught. This allows him to run with it, and to take it to  places beyond where Jesus did, following in that same trajectory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Next, consider the example of Martin Luther King Jr. and the  civil  rights movement. King looked to the Bible as his inspiration. However,  it would be hard to make a clear case for the abolition of slavery from a  proof-texting approach to the New Testament. One can find verses that  seem to support it, and others against it. Yet, Christians today take it  as self-evident that slavery is wrong and even sinful. Again, what we  see King doing (and all of us doing with him) is an example of following  in the trajectory set by the New Testament that declares that "There is  neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and  female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28). Looking  at how Paul championed opening up the Gospel to all peoples, it's a safe  bet that he would have cheered King in his seeking equality for all  people regardless of race. Again, King was going beyond where Paul went,  but he was following in the same trajectory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Returning to the violent passages mentioned at the outset of this  article, it is rather clear that there has been a clear shift from the  time of their writing to Jesus' command to love our enemies. There is a  clear and obvious discontinuity here between these two understandings of  God. What we see here is a major change in trajectory within the Bible  itself that leads us away from a violent tribal conception of God, and  towards a God seen in Jesus that demonstrates enemy love. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;If we read the Bible as a proof-text, then we will find there are  passages that command violence in God's name, and those that forbid it.  However, if we instead step back, taking a larger narrative view that  recognizes the Bible's developing trajectories, then we do not need to  try and justify or embrace these violent passages any more than we need  to cling to passages that advocate slavery (or food laws for that  matter). Rather, we look to identify the upwards trajectory away from  violence, oppression and dehumanization that the biblical record  chronicles. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Jesus said, "Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, &lt;em&gt;and they will do even greater things than these&lt;/em&gt;"  (John 14:12). If that's true, then perhaps faithfulness to Scripture  does not mean holding on to it with clenched fists and white knuckles no  matter how wrong it seems. Maybe it instead means learning to make it  soar by following in the trajectory it sets. Maybe it means we do not  need to get stuck in the old, but can faithfully follow its trajectory  into the new.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-8391819670899764166?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;Now  what makes this even more complicated is the fact that most of the  statements about Hell found in the Bible are said by Jesus. The one who is leading me to question Hell, is the very one who teaches it.  Similarly, Jesus is known for preaching love of enemies and  nonviolence, yet many of his teachings use very violent imagery. Again,  how can we understand these apparent contradictions? How can we think of Jesus as compassionate and loving when he says such harsh things?
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&lt;br /&gt;There's  a movement among emerging folks like me to focus on the teachings of  Jesus over the doctrines of Paul as a way to get away from legalism and  back to grace. I like the idea of getting to grace, but I've always had a  problem with this for two reasons: First of all, Paul is all about  grace, and any legalistic dogmatic interpretation of him is a  misinterpretation. Second, Jesus (as we have seen) is anything but easy  to interpret. In fact, if one takes a literalistic approach to the  teachings of Jesus they are sure to come up with the most un-Christlike  teachings imaginable. So in light of that, I'd like to offer a more  sophisticated approach to interpreting the teachings of Jesus that take  all of this into account.
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&lt;br /&gt;Let's begin with the parable of the unmerciful servant (Mt 18:21-35). Jesus tells the story of a king who forgives his servant  for a huge debt, but then when he hears that this  same servant has refused forgive very small debt, the king  becomes enraged. Jesus tells us that the king "handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed." and the concludes “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”
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&lt;br /&gt;Now the debt the servant owed was basically unpayable. Scholars say  that it was more money that an entire kingdom would have had, and so it  would be like us saying "a zillion dollars" meaning he would never be able to pay it, and would thus be tortured  forever. So are we to conclude from this that if we don't forgive others  that God will torture us in hell forever? It is crucial here to look  at the context: Jesus tells this parable in response to a question  from Peter were he asked Jesus "how many times must I forgive, seven times?"  Jesus answers "no, seventy -seven times" (v. 21-22). So if we read this like an  accountant we would need to conclude that we should forgive 77 times,  but God does not do this. God (according the parable here read in a  pedantic fashion) does not even forgive seven times like Peter suggests, or two times for that matter. Just  one chance and then that's it. God here appears at first infinitely merciful,  forgiving a huge debt, and then suddenly flips and wants to &lt;i&gt;torture&lt;/i&gt; us forever.
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&lt;br /&gt;Does God suffer from some form of  borderline personality disorder where he is at first loving and  forgiving, and then suddenly becomes brutal and merciless? Are we more  merciful than God? No, this is a  parable, and a parable is essentially a loose analogy. As everyone  knows,  if any analogy is pressed  too far it becomes absurd (as we can clearly see here). The broad point  Jesus is making here is that it would be really horrible if we were  forgiven a great  debt, but then turned around and were merciless to others. We should  treat  others with the same grace that we need, and which God has richly shown us.
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&lt;br /&gt;This is an interpretation that fits with the overall point of this  pericope. To read it literalistically would mean that the point Jesus  was making to Peter was completely undermined by Jesus' own parable -- &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;be merciful as your Heavenly Father is... who is not merciful at all! &lt;/span&gt;Clearly,  that cannot be what Jesus was trying to convey. To understand Jesus we  need to listen to context of his larger point which  is always about showing mercy to others, about radical unconditional  grace.
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&lt;br /&gt;Now, so  far I've just been following rules of basic biblical interpretation --  considering genre (a parable), reading a passage in context (explaining  to Peter why we should forgive more than seven times), and focusing on  authorial intent (teaching that we should show great mercy as God has shown us great mercy). Let's take that a step further now: In the  above parable Jesus compares God to a king who -- in the way dictators  do -- flies into a rage and orders torture for an ungrateful servant. Yet if we keep reading in Matthew, we see that a couple chapters later, Jesus questions the entire idea of comparing God to a king. "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave — just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many" (Mt 20:25-28).  In other words, Jesus models the way of God, not as one who "lords it  over others" but as the servant Lord, and calls for us to embody that  way too. Following Jesus means rejecting the way of domination, the way  of kings.
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&lt;br /&gt;So  to the extent that you have embraced that idea, you will have a problem  with the above parable of the king. You'll read "God is like an angry  king" and think "No, Jesus teaches us that God is not at all like a  king, God is like a suffering servant," and you would be absolutely  right. In each of these parables, Jesus is turning our thinking upside down. He begins by turning the idea of payback on its head. When he says "not seven times, but seventy-seven" he is alluding to a passage from the Old Testament where Lamech says "If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times" (Gen 4:24), and reversing it. Jesus replaces escalation of violence with the escalation of mercy. In the  second parable he is similarly dismantling our understanding of  greatness, and redefining how we see God. God is the servant. Power is about lifting people up, not pushing them down.
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&lt;br /&gt;In  doing this, Jesus not only dismantles our traditional concepts of what  justice and power are about, at the same time, he also dismantles his own  parables. Once we have embraced Jesus' understanding of servant  lordship, we cannot accept the crude comparison of God to a volatile  dictator. So when reading these parables as disciples of Jesus, we need to keep in mind that each one is beginning with the assumptions of the crowds. He begins there, with their familiar ideas of kings and slaves and torture and then introduces a  radical new idea into the mix which flips one of those ideas on its  head. The more we embrace these ideas of Jesus' "upside-down kingdom,"  the more we will have trouble with the worldly assumptions that these  very parables are situated in. That's not because we are disagreeing  with Jesus here, but because we have fully embraced his new way of  thinking. So the more we follow Jesus, the more we'll question the worldly values the parables are set in. That is, we can embrace the idea of forgiving a great debt (which is the point Jesus is making), but reject the idea that God is a torturing dictator (which reflect the worldview assumptions of his first century audience -- assumptions Jesus is repeatedly challenging).
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&lt;br /&gt;That  means that when we read statements about Hell and "torture," we need to  ask whether these are the main point Jesus was trying to teach, or whether  it is in fact part of the worldview that the people had already accepted --  like they had slavery and dictatorship -- which Jesus is dismantling  bit by bit.
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&lt;br /&gt;Consider the parable of the sheep and goats just a few  chapters later in Matthew (Mt 25:31-46). Here we hear Jesus make some  very harsh statements about Hell, "Depart  from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the  devil and his angels" (v. 41). But again, what is the central point that  Jesus is illustrating here? It is not a description of how the last  judgement will look. That is the assumed setting, just as the first  parable we looked at assumed a king and servants. Here Jesus is drawing  on the familiar apocalyptic imagery of his Jewish audience, and once again  he is turning the tables: The righteous will not be determined because  they are part of the right race or religion (as his audience thought),  but rather by how they love the least. Jesus redefines what makes a  person "in" or "out" -- you are in if you care for those who are out. In  doing this, he tears down the very barrier separating insiders from  outsiders. Once again, he begins with a common assumption (the image of  the final judgement) and turns it on its head: you show your allegiance  to God by how you love those who are condemned.
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&lt;br /&gt;If  you study all the passages that allude to hell in the Gospels, you will see this pattern over and over: Jesus is not in fact teaching "this is the  way hell is" any more than he is teaching "God is like a emotional dictator." Rather, these are the &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;people's assumptions&lt;/span&gt; that he begins  with in order to introduce a radical new idea focused on grace. That's how we need to read Jesus, and that's a point that even many biblical scholars miss. Because in order to really get it, you need to follow. You need to adopt the way of Jesus, and let his heart become your own. The more I do that, the less I think God looks like a king or a judge, and the more I think God looks like Jesus who redefines all those terms, and indeed redefines how we conceive of God.
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&lt;br /&gt;Rollins writes that "there are people who claim God is at work in the  world and we can have a deep relationship with Him here and now." As  many of you are aware, I am one of those people. I think that &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/derek-flood/personal-relationship-with-god_b_914065.html"&gt;developing a living relationship with God&lt;/a&gt; is at the very heart of the Christian faith.  Rollins, in contrast, sees it as a "world-renouncing  approach to faith"  because he associates it with an "addiction" to exceptional emotional  experiences (in a worship service for example) which he sees as devaluing  the rest of life: "[L]ife as a whole is negated, and we are left unable  to fully embrace and enjoy it."
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&lt;br /&gt;Now, I agree that charismatic worship services do have a tendency to  promote this kind of hyped-up emotional experience, and as a result can  lead to disillusionment and disappointment. This however reflects a  broken understanding of what healthy relationships are about.  Relationships are not just about good times -- all candle light dinners  and feelings of bliss. Relationships are about sharing &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;all&lt;/span&gt;  of your life with someone -- getting to know them and letting that rub  off on who you are. We hang out with Jesus, and in so doing, we become  like Jesus.
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&lt;br /&gt;This is a broken world we  live in, and because of that, as Paul says, we see God "through a glass  darkly." We see God in glimpses. It's true that we can over-emphasize  those times of epiphany in the same way that our culture  over-emphasizes romance, but that does not mean that we need to see  these times as a rejection of life. Why can't they instead fill our  ordinary lives with meaning and value? Maybe these times are intended to  change &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;how we see everything else&lt;/span&gt;, so that, as Rollins writes "the world is transfigured and rendered wonderful."
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&lt;br /&gt;That's the way it should be, but Rollins is right to say that our  "triumphalist music, confident prayers, and sermons of certainty don't  necessarily reflect the beliefs of the people offering them or receiving  them." The problem is not, as Rollins notes, that there is a lack of  ministers who  experience doubt, but that the predominant church culture does not allow  them to.  They are only allowed to admit struggles if they are safely in the  past.  That's the narrative we want to hear:&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt; I used to have a problem, but then  I met Jesus and it all went away.&lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;Wouldn't it be good for our faith if we could be real about it together?  Is a Christian leader really someone who never has any struggles, or is  it instead someone who can model how to deal with those real struggles  of  life with honesty and grace? What if worship leaders were allowed to  sing songs about real struggles and doubts? Wouldn't that reflect the  way we really experience our faith and our lives?
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&lt;br /&gt;An amazing example of that is &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.themusiccoope.com/"&gt;Kevin Prosch&lt;/a&gt;  who was the personal worship leader for John Wimber. Kevin's songs have  a gut wrenching honesty. Take for example these lyrics from his song &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Please&lt;/span&gt;:
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="yiv1915344160yui_3_2_0_20_1313309027773136" class="yiv1915344160copy_white"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote id="yiv1915344160yui_3_2_0_20_1313309027773135"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;I know that sometimes you win
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;         But most of the time I get this feeling that I'm losing
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;         And the cruel, cruel lessons of loneliness...&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;         I believe this must be my portion in life &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;        
&lt;br /&gt;If there really is a hereafter and after all &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;        
&lt;br /&gt;Maybe a moment of grace could bring the gates of heaven          near
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;         I wish someone could tell me, have I wept these tears in          vain?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span id="yiv1915344160yui_3_2_0_20_1313309027773134" style="font-style:italic;"&gt;        
&lt;br /&gt;But even then... there's this loneliness &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;        
&lt;br /&gt;This loneliness
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Wow. Can we please sing that in church next Sunday?
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&lt;br /&gt;I'm totally with Rollins in wanting us to be able to be real in church,  and have that honesty and depth reflected in our liturgy and sermons. But he does  not stop there. Rollins does not think we can love God directly at all,  because he ultimately does not believe God exists. He argues that we  should "no longer approach God as an object we love. Indeed, the idea of  loving God directly becomes problematic. Instead we learn that God is  present in the very act of love itself." In other words, he does not believe that God is a &lt;span id="yiv1915344160yui_3_2_0_20_1313309027773169" style="font-style:italic;"&gt;someone&lt;/span&gt;  who can speak to us, love us, and be known by us. Rather, God is "love" and so  "belief in God" for him simply means being a loving person.
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&lt;br /&gt;He writes that "Love does not seek out our hymns of praise and prayers  of  adoration. Love does not want our sacrifices or seek our time. For love  always points toward the other." While I deeply disagree with this on  so many levels, at the same time I have to say that if that meant  that he never sang another worship song again, and never prayed again,  but only focused on caring for the least and showing grace to others, I  really can't imagine that Jesus would be mad at Pete for that. Because  in doing that, he really is loving God.
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&lt;br /&gt;But does that mean that we all need to stop praying? Does it mean that we need  to tell Kevin Prosch to strop singing his beautiful heart-wrenching love songs to God? I hope not, because  that would mean stifling the honest expression of his heart. Mine too.
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&lt;br /&gt;I'm sympathetic to Pete when he writes that "there are numerous people  who affirm the view that God can be encountered here and now, yet who  experience nothing." I don't want him to fake it. I understand if he  feels that he is "not getting God and feeling empty, constantly chasing  God and never finding rest." I've felt that way at times too. But I have  also experienced the undeniable reality of God's love in my life. I  know first hand that God is real and can be known.
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&lt;br /&gt;Let me underline here that I am not just talking about having some emotional religious experience.  That alone is not a relationship. I'm talking about learning to &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;listen&lt;/span&gt;  to God, letting God speak into my life, changing and molding me into the image of Christ. I don't  think we should lose that, and in fact, I think we need a lot more of  that. I want us to be real, but that includes honestly crying out to God,  both in expressing our need and doubt, &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; also our thankfulness and love. I  would not want to lose any of that.
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/OZTCpPAW0Ac" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2011/08/peter-rollins-insurrection-early-review_13.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>6</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-3508635578071455727</guid><pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-08-13T22:02:09.273-07:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">books</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Emergent</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">theology of the cross</category><title>Peter Rollins Insurrection - an early review, part 1</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419piuPtShL._AA115_.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 115px; height: 115px;" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419piuPtShL._AA115_.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I was asked to review the pre-release version of Peter Rollins' new book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Insurrection-Believe-Human-Doubt-Divine/dp/1451609000/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1313264211&amp;amp;sr=8-2"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Insurrection - To Believe is Human, to Doubt Divine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  There's a lot of good stuff in it, so I'm planning on covering it over a few posts. In this first post I want to deal with his theology of the cross, which is the core thesis of his book. Before I do though, I want to give a few caveats:
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&lt;br /&gt;First, I'll be quoting from the pre-release version. Those quotes may change or be refined in the final version. Second, (and more importantly) I will be disagreeing with a lot of what Pete says. That does not mean that I don't like where he is coming from. I do. I consider this a friendly review/critique among common allies. As you will see, I strongly disagree&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: transparent"&gt; with him on some major areas, but if you are at all familiar with Peter Rollins' thought, you'll know that he &lt;i&gt;wants&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; people to disagree, and not to just passively swallow all he says. As he writes in Insurrection, truth is found "in the ongoing testing and transformation of those claims through the fires of passionate, loving debate." So it is in that spirit that I offer this:
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&lt;br /&gt;There are several "flavors" to the theology of the cross: Luther, Moltmann, John Douglas Hall, Bonhoeffer, etc. Rollins' theology of the cross is largely built off of Bonhoeffer's idea of becoming "religionless." Rollins refers to this as "a/theism" which he contrasts with the New Atheism of folks like Richard Dawkins which is a mere intellectual rejection of theism. Rollins' a/theism in contrast is about the emotional loss of God, the feeling of forsakenness and utter loss that Jesus felt on the cross when he cried out "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Compared to this, Dawkins' atheism is detached and cheap -- in the end New Atheism is just a type of fundamentalism with all the same intolerance and arrogant certainty. The emotional a/theism Rollins advocates in contrast rips away at that arrogant certainty.
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&lt;br /&gt;Rollins wants to dismantle religious systems of comfort which lead us to mask over and ignore hurt and oppression. His theology of the cross therefore involves the striping way of these securities and comforts, resulting in the "trauma" of personally experiencing the absence of God where one is "crushed by a deep existential loss of certainty" and we "give up everything &lt;i&gt;including&lt;/i&gt; God" (his emphasis). That is a very provocative statement, but if one can read on to the end of the book, we discover that what Rollins ultimately means here is the loss of the religious image of God, the loss of our immature picture of God as a sort of heavenly grandpa. This is the theology of the cross that Bonhoeffer wrote of from inside the German concentration camp before his execution. In the face of the Holocaust, Bonhoeffer knew we needed the God on the cross, the God who is there in the middle of our suffering, in the middle of an unjust and broken world.
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&lt;br /&gt;The question is: In losing the God of religious comfort and certainty, do we also lose the God of hope? It is here that I think Rollins' theology goes astray because he mixes up the meaning of the Resurrection with the meaning of the Incarnation and Crucifixion. Rollins writes that to affirm the resurrection means "embracing the broken world." Resurrection life, he writes, is a way of "truly affirming life" in the midst of "the experience of death we find in the crucifixion." But that is not the meaning of the Resurrection, it is the meaning of the &lt;i&gt;Incarnation&lt;/i&gt;. The meaning of the Resurrection is that, despite all the brokenness in our world, we have hope that there will one day be an end to sickness, death, and hurt. That is what the resurrection means. Rollins adamantly rejects the hope that “everything will work out in the end” as an immature illusion that he aims to strip away. In other words, &lt;i&gt;his theology of the cross annuls the hope of the Resurrection&lt;/i&gt;. He writes, “In sharp contrast then to the idea that, at the heart of Christianity, we find the loving embrace of some Supreme Being; to participate in Christ’s Crucifixion involves experiencing the destruction of all cosmic security. Here, in this experience, radical doubt, unknowing, loss, desolation, and forsakenness are to be found.”
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&lt;br /&gt;Rollins sees the Resurrection as “the state of being in which one is able to embrace the cold embrace of the cross.” Now, I fully agree that God embraces us in all of our ugliness and pain (that’s the meaning of the Incarnation), but I also hope Rollins would agree that God does not affirm abuse; God does not want us to be victimized by injustice, or by our own self-hatred; God does not want us to drown in our in despair and grief. God loves us &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; our hurt, but &lt;i&gt;God does not love hurt&lt;/i&gt;, and neither should we. The cross, in embracing us in our ugliness, does not advocate oppression or hurt, rather it is a &lt;i&gt;protest&lt;/i&gt; against it. As Moltmann says, the suffering God is the protesting God.
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&lt;br /&gt;Rollins is all for protest I'm sure. (Heck, that's what "insurrection" means!) But in denying the &lt;i&gt;meaning&lt;/i&gt; of the Resurrection, he pulls the rug out from under himself. It is a theology of the cross without a theology of the Resurrection, and therefore without Resurrection hope. So while I affirm all that Rollins affirms, my problem is with what he rejects. In the end, I think he throws the baby out with the bathwater. The gospel is more than that. I want a bigger insurrection. I want an insurrection rooted in the Resurrection.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-3508635578071455727?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/EpIGoN_r-9U" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2011/08/peter-rollins-insurrection-early-review.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>2</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-6454823216021122742</guid><pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-08-06T15:36:22.658-07:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">relationship with God</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">relational theology</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">born again</category><title>A Personal Relationship with God?</title><description>&lt;p&gt;(originally published in the &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/derek-flood/personal-relationship-with-god_b_914065.html"&gt;Huffington Post&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"A personal relationship with God." It's a phrase you've probably  heard before if you've spent any time around church folks. Many would  say it captures the very heart of what it means to be a Christian, and I  agree. There are a lot of Christians, however, who have a problem with  the idea -- people I have a lot of respect for. &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Love-Wins-About-Heaven-Person/dp/006204964X" target="_hplink"&gt;Rob Bell&lt;/a&gt;, for example, correctly points out that the phrase is not found in the Bible. But then again, neither is the word "Trinity." &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The real question is whether the &lt;em&gt;concept itself&lt;/em&gt; is biblical,  and Jesus says the very heart of the law is to "love God with all your  heart, and love your neighbor as yourself." Those sound like  relationships to me. So what's the problem?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;For &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Generous-Orthodoxy-Contemplative-Fundamentalist-Depressed-yet-Hopeful/dp/0310257476" target="_hplink"&gt;Brian McLaren&lt;/a&gt;,  the problem is the stress on "personal" relationship and "personal"  salvation. The original intent of stressing the personal was to  distinguish it from an impersonal relationship (like the orbital  relationship of the moon to the earth), and stress that faith is not  something we are born into by default, but involves us personally. It  needs to be lived. The problem, as McLaren points out, is that the idea  of something being "personal" also has an individualistic self-focus to  it: personal computer, personal trainer, personal space. As a result,  faith becomes focused on us as individuals -- a focus on &lt;em&gt;personal&lt;/em&gt; morality, &lt;em&gt;personal&lt;/em&gt; prayer, &lt;em&gt;personal&lt;/em&gt; Bible study.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The idea of a personal relationship with God should not be taken to  mean a privatized faith. If we really took the idea of relationship  seriously, we would recognize that faith understood as relationship  needs to be both personal &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; social. A relational faith, by  its very definition, is inherently social. As the epistle of John so  powerfully says, "if we say we love God, but do not love our brother,  then we are deceiving ourselves." We simply cannot say we love God if we  do not love those around us. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;While salvation begins personally and intimately, it cannot end in a  myopic self-focused faith. Genuine personal relationship with God must  flow over into all of our relationships -- caring for the least, loving  our enemies, and showing the fruit of that genuine personal connection.  How could it not? If we really are in a living relationship with Jesus,  then won't we come to see people the way he does, and care about the  things he cares about? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I'll say it again: If we really took the idea of relationship with  God seriously, we would also love others. So rather than focusing on  relationship less, I think we should focus &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; on it.  Relationships are at the core of who we are as humans. Nearly every  artistic expression is about relationship, from Shakespearian dramas to  the current top 10 music charts: songs of love lost and found, tales of  our deepest longings and greatest tragedies. Relationships reflect our  deepest human struggles. They are the source of our most profound joy  and pain -- what we long for most, what keeps us up at night. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is in relationship that we find out who we are as humans, and what  matters most in life. We as humans are made for relationship, and  outside of relationship cannot be truly ourselves. We have a relational  identity, a social self. As babies we begin life as self-focused and  gradually learn to see ourselves as beings in relationship as we learn  to love and be loved. That relational love from our parents shapes our  self-image, who we are. Our very identity as humans is found in  relationship. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This all goes to say that relationship is central to understanding  who we are and what life is about. That's why I think that speaking of  having a "personal relationship with God" has the potential to  revolutionize and deepen theological reflection, so long as we move  beyond cheap slogans and sound bites. Again, the problem is not with  speaking in terms of a "relationship with God," but that &lt;em&gt;we do not take it seriously enough&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So what might it look like if we did? I've written about this in a  lot more detail elsewhere, but here are a few of the consequences of  what &lt;a href="http://therebelgod.com/relational.html" target="_hplink"&gt;understanding faith through the lens of relationship&lt;/a&gt; would entail:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It would mean a focus on a loving relationship with God and others,  and not a focus on abstract rules or doctrine. It would mean an  experienced faith now, and not just one that looks to a book from the  past. Or more precisely, it would look to Scripture not as a set of  rules, but as a witness to what the disciples had experienced of God in  Christ in order to get a hold of what they had gotten a hold of. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A focus on relationship would recognize that believing in God is not  simply to affirm a fact, but to engage in a trust relationship. Faith  means trust. It would see that sin is not primarily about a legal  transgression, but more deeply it is a relational breach -- cutting us  off from God, others and ourselves. A relational faith would remember  that  "knowing" in a biblical context is not about intellectual surety,  but relational knowing. To know truth does not mean we possess  independent absolute knowledge, but rather is a statement of trust and  intimate surety that &lt;em&gt;we are known&lt;/em&gt; by God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Most of all, focusing on relationship means caring more about treating  others right, than about "being right." As the Apostle Paul says, if we  have all the correct doctrines in the world, but have not love, it means  nothing. So many Christians use truth like a weapon, and don't seem to  care who they hurt with it. But one cannot separate truth from love any  more than one can separate the head from the heart. Truth without love  is not truth at all. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-6454823216021122742?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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The HuffPost editors changed the original title above from "why faith is about story" to "why faith is a  story" which made a lot of people think I was saying that the Bible is fictional, that it is "just a myth." That was not my point. Rather, story is a way of understanding what happens in our lives so that those experiences are filled with meaning. The Gospels do not simply report facts as a catalog of events. Instead, they weave those stories together in a way that draws out the profound significance of those events in the hopes that we will be drawn into the story of how God came among us. So that God's story will become our story too, the defining narrative of our lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a tendency for religious scholars (both the systematic theologians who pick out propositional truths, and the historical Jesus crowd who try to remove that story by 'de-mythologizing' the text) to pull the sayings of Jesus out of that narrative context. This shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how story functions. So in this post I briefly attempt to illustrate the power of story, and how thinking narratively can deepen our theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(reprinted from the &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/derek-flood/god-at-the-movies-why-fai_b_894344.html"&gt;Huffington Post&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Stories play a profound role in our lives. They are how we make sense  of our experiences and organize our memories. Stories are how we tell  people about our day, what we hear on the news and even what we dream at  night. That's probably why story is our most prolific art form. Most of  us have grown up on a steady diet of stories in the form of movies and  television (and hopefully a few books, too).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What is so powerful about story is not the plot-line of the story  itself, but the way that we are drawn into that story, how we feel the  drama and identify with the protagonist. We therefore experience what  the main character is going through. That's powerful because when we do  that it has the potential to bring us beyond the typical polarizing  divides of right vs. left or believer vs. atheist. By hearing and  empathizing with their story, seeing things from their point of view, we  can see the other human being across from us. Religious and political  debates often get caught up in arguing about issues and doctrines, and  we miss how our words can hurt another. Listening to others' stories --  and therefore practicing empathy -- can help us reconnect with the human  and personal, even when we disagree.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Stories also allow us to understand an issue much more deeply than we  could when it is explained on a merely theoretical level. A good writer  can craft a narrative with complex and conflicted characters and  overlapping and intertwining plot-lines. The result is a story that  captures the messiness and complexity of our lives in a way that  propositions and principles simply cannot. Thinking narratively provides  a way of understanding who we are, and how life works in a deep, messy  and complicated way that can lead us to a deeper and richer  understanding of an issue in all of its complexity and nuance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Ultimately, story is a way to communicate and bring us in contact  with meaning. It not only describes the complex reality of our  experience, but also identifies the underlying plot which gives that  existence purpose. Stories allow us to make sense of our lives, and see  the sacredness of the ordinary. They make us laugh and weep and cheer  because we connect them with our own struggles, stretching our own  humanity and illuminating our life with meaning. As &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Story-Substance-Structure-Principles-Screenwriting/dp/0060391685/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1310368591&amp;amp;sr=8-1" target="_hplink"&gt;Robert McKee&lt;/a&gt;  writes, "Our appetite for story is a reflection of the profound human  need to grasp the pattern of living, not merely as an intellectual  exercise, but within a very personal, emotional experience."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;With all that in mind, it is not surprising that story is in fact the  form most of the Bible is written in. The Gospels, for instance, are  all written as narratives. Since story is such a  foundational part of  how we as humans make sense of our lives, it makes sense that our sacred  texts would make use of story. Yet despite this biblical emphasis,  Protestant theology has been mostly concerned with expressing doctrine  in the form of propositional truths. That is, it reads the Bible not as  story, but as a source from which to mine doctrinal statements. In doing  this, we divorce Scripture from its original rich narrative context,  and reduce it to simple dogmatic formulas, rather than allowing it to  retain the complexities inherently found in story, which of course  mirror the complexities of real life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  Christian faith is not primarily about arguing over right beliefs and  doctrines, it is about letting the story of God's grace become our  story and shape our lives. We all know this, I suspect, but the way most  of us have learned to converse about our faith does not usually express  that deep life narrative. Instead, it speaks in the detached terms of  abstract universals and dogmas. As I have illustrated above, however,  narrative thinking provides a much richer understanding which better  captures the reality of our lived faith. That's why we need to learn to  understand faith as story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-2463154129264367182?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/gIp_VmJHdG0" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2011/07/god-at-movies-why-faith-is-about-story.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>2</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-3796381363468649168</guid><pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-07-10T23:42:36.179-07:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">art</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">relational theology</category><title>What the Church Can Learn from Artists</title><description>&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;(reprinted from the &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/derek-flood/what-the-church-can-learn_b_886206.html"&gt;Huffington Post&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Christianity has a long history of incorporating art into its liturgy  and worship. Some classic examples of this are cathedral architecture  with its soaring towers and stained glass windows, the religious  paintings of artists like Michelangelo and Rembrandt, and of course  hymns and classical music. Of course there are modern versions of all of  this too that incorporate contemporary music and visual media into  services. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What Christians are much less aware of is how the artist's unique  perspective can enrich and deepen how we approach theology. So in this  post I'd like to take a look at what doing theology as an artist looks  like, and how that differs from the way theology has typically been  done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Let me begin by offering a definition of art: First of all, art is  not just about creativity. That's part of it, of course, but lots of  other work involves creativity too. Art in particular is about taking  something in your heart, and putting it out there (on paper, a movie  screen, a song, etc.) in such a way that another person can connect with  it in his or her heart. A musician writes a song about a breakup, and  you hear that song and deeply connect with it. It captures how you are  feeling about your own breakup so much that it makes you want to sing it  at the top of your lungs as you drive in your car. Art makes us laugh,  makes us cry, inspires us or shakes us up because it has become ours. It  moves us because we relate to it personally.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Art is something deeply personal of the artist, that becomes deeply  personal to us as well. In that sense, the Incarnation can be understood  as God's art. It is God's heart, presented in the life, death and  resurrection of Jesus. That's why the Apostle Paul calls Jesus the  "image of God" (Colossians 1:15). Jesus is God's own self-portrait, and  the artistic medium of the Creator is not oils or clay, but life itself.  Again, that divine self-portrait, that song of God in Jesus, is  successful to the extent that it connects with us, to the extent that it  becomes the song we sing, too. That means that truth needs to connect  with us personally to function as truth. We cannot remain neutral and  detached around it. With art, to be unaffected by it is to not get it,  and the Christian story, at its very heart, is God's art. It's not about  abstract doctrinal formulations or moral principles, it's about us  connecting with what Hans Urs von Balthasar famously called God's  theo-drama, God's story. That gospel, that message from God's heart, is  not primarily informational, it is incarnational, and thus personal and  relational.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Now, all of this is very different from the way Protestant theology  has been approached throughout the modern era. There the focus has been  on formulating precise doctrinal statements. It seeks to find objective  truth by observing as a neutral party from the outside. This approach  works well for the natural sciences, but it does not work in human  relationships because we do not live in the general. Everything we  experience is particular and personal. That's why the artist insists  that truth can only be encountered in the concrete and personal, and  never in the abstract, never in a detached way. For us as Christians  that means knowing truth is about knowing God relationally, not just  knowing facts about God.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The difference between the artist's relational approach to faith, as  opposed to the more typical dogmatic approach which has characterized  modernism, has many implications. It goes a long way toward explaining  why the church has had a history of violence, and why many still  perceive Christians as being unloving today. These are of course big  topics that are beyond the scope of one blog post. So I'll be covering  these themes and others in future posts. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What we can see right away however is that, while the church has  often viewed artists with suspicion (and vice versa), there is a lot  that we can learn from the artist's perspective that can enrich, expand  and challenge how we approach faith. It ultimately involves learning to  think with both our heads and hearts, developing both cognitive and  emotional intelligence. You don't need to know how to paint to do that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-3796381363468649168?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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The book has gotten a LOT of media attention, debuting at #2 on the NY Times Best Seller List, and making the cover of &lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2065080,00.html"&gt;Time Magazine&lt;/a&gt;. So for any of you evangelicals like me who thought that we were a small fringe minority in our wresting with these things, this is a big wake up call that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;you are not alone&lt;/span&gt;. This book, and the questions it raises is obviously resonating with a whole lot of people out there. Bell and other Evangelicals like him (names like Brian McLaren, Shane Claiborne, Jay Bakker, Greg Boyd all come to mind) are part of the new face of evangelicalism, and that of course has gotten  those from the old (grumpy) guard pretty mad. It also has a lot of liberals confused because we don't fit into their cliche of what an evangelical is supposed to be (mean spirited, judgmental, unconcerned about the poor, anti-gay, etc.). They are left scratching their heads: "So what &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is &lt;/span&gt;an evangelical if they are not those things?" they ponder&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The back of Bell's book has a quote from Andy Crouch in the New York Times where he writes, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Rob Bell is a central figure for his generation and for the way that evangelicals are likely to do church in the next twenty years."&lt;/span&gt; Yet to others, Bell has left the evangelical fold all together. John Piper declared as much with the &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/JohnPiper/status/41590656421863424"&gt;tweet&lt;/a&gt; "Farewell, Rob Bell." Similarly, many liberals are wondering what the difference is between what Bell says and good old liberal Christianity? Lisa Miller of Newsweek asks Bell in &lt;a href="http://livestre.am/F4gw"&gt;a recent interview&lt;/a&gt; "Aren’t you just a mainline Protestant posing as an evangelical?"  I'd like to offer a response to that question here. I don't pretend to speak for Rob here. This is my own answer to why I continue to identify as evangelical:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The controversy with Bell's book has to do with the doctrinal claims it makes. So those who have spoken out against it are doing so based on saying that it says things that are wrong. The focus is on Truth with a big T, on authoritative doctrinal correctness. This focus on black and white right or wrongness is also characteristic of how traditional evangelicals understand morality and ethics. Their focus is on the "thou shalt nots," i.e. on opposing certain behavior that they see as immoral. So they say X is wrong, and people who practice X are a threat to the  to moral fabric of our society. I'm sure you can fill in the blanks yourself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand you have the way that liberal Christians (not to be confused with secular liberals) do morality and ethics. Instead of being focused on right and wrong, their focus is on compassion. This does not mean that everything is okay. They would insist that many things are really hurtful and bad, but that our response should be one of grace: We should be seeking rehabilitation and reconciliation, not retribution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One focuses on something being either right or wrong, and then condemning the wrong. The other may agree completely that it is wrong, but still focus on a response of compassion because the goal is to mend and restore people--even the screw-ups and failures like us. This caries over into theology too: one focuses on saying what they think is the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;truth&lt;/span&gt; about God. The other may agree with these doctrines, but places a priority on communicating grace, and realizes that if something is said without love, without compassion, without sensitivity, that is can actaully give a wrong picture of who God is. This is at the heart of Jesus' critique of the Pharisees. Truth without love leads to a dead faith. As Paul says "If I can fathom all mysteries and all  knowledge, but do not  have love, I am nothing" (1 Cor 13:2).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of these two ways of doing ethics (and theology), the later is clearly more Christ-like. As far as this goes I fall very much in the liberal Christian camp, meaning that while I may agree most of the time with the doctrinal conclusions of traditional evangelicalism, I think that compassion is often absent from how they do theology and ethics, and to the extent and degree that it is absent, it is heretical and wrong. It is heretical and wrong because it gives a false witness about God, and pulls people away from faith. It's wrong because it hurts people, and thus opposes God's purpose. I use that word "heretical" here very intentionally, because while people are quick to say that wrong doctrinal formulations are "heretical," I would maintain that what is far more heretical and damaging is for people to say things in a heartless and unloving way. Why don't we see those people brought up on heresy trials? Why don't we see those people fired from their position in a seminary? Why is our criteria not focused on being Christ-like? That's a completely wrong priority. Yet so many of my fellow evangelicals seem completely oblivious to this point, even though it is blatantly obvious to pretty much everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So you might ask at this point: aren't you just a liberal Mainliner then? As far as this broad approach of compassion goes, I am.  But there is something crucial that is missing here: I do not think that Christianity is primarily about affirming certain doctrines or adopting a certain set of ethical principles. It is about having a personal life-changing relationship with Jesus Christ. That focus on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;relationship with God&lt;/span&gt; is and always has been the core of evangelical faith. That is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; gospel. This is what being born again is all about. It is the foundation from which all Christian ethics stems.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the evangelical churches I have been a part of (and for what it is worth, they were pentecostal/charismatic ones of that makes any difference) this has &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;always&lt;/span&gt; been the central focus. You can hear it in the worship choruses we sing, in the focus on personal prayer, devotional reading of Scripture, and of course the many alter calls. Yet to those on the outside, you might miss this. From the outside it seems all we talk about is the wrong/right morality issues. On our church webpages you will find Statement of Beliefs which focus on affirming orthodox doctrinal  statements. Now, once you are on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;inside&lt;/span&gt; you will meet with this focus on a warm and living faith that flows into acceptance, support, love. But if you are on the outside looking in, you will encounter this focus on "right/wrong" which takes the shape of threats, condemnation, and (if the person you are speaking with gets frustrated with you) mean-spirited judgement. It's all very bi-polar, but goes a long way to understanding why evangelicals are perceived as a bunch of heartless, judgmental, jerks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For a long long time a big part of the church (usually the part with political power on its side) has been really focused on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;right&lt;/span&gt;  doctrine--on finding absolute authoritative infallible truth. Heck,  they burned people at the stake for making doctrinal statements they  thought were wrong. Today theology professors still get fired from  seminaries for having the "wrong" beliefs, and these "wrong beliefs" are exactly  what Rob Bell is being attacked for. But look at the people who are calling  him that. What are their fruits? As Bell has said, "When you hear the word 'Christian,' do you immediately think 'oh yeah, the  people who never stop talking about God's love for everybody'? ...or...  do a number of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt; images and associations come to mind?" We evangelicals are  not known for being loving to a fault. We are known for a merciless  focus on being &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;right&lt;/span&gt;. In other words, we have the same reputation now as  the Pharisees in the NT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So again, I want to retain that vibrant focus on intimately knowing the Spirit of Christ relationally, and of having that love and grace change who I am. But I want to lose the focus on heartless moralism, and instead focus on compassion and grace. I think that focus of compassion fits much much better with that living relationship. But I don't really find that in Mainline liberal churches. Maybe its because they are worried about sounding too much like evangelicals (a four-letter word to them). Maybe its some other reason. Maybe there are people who do have a vibrant personal relationship with God, but who just never talk about it. I don't know. But I do know that it is something that you will hardly ever hear in liberal Mainline churches. The focus is very much on ethics and compassion--on adopting &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;principles&lt;/span&gt;. So while I agree with those principles, it is not enough. It is not the core, the heart of what faith is about. I miss that there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So from all that, I would like to propose that what makes a new evangelical is that we retain the focus on a living transforming relationship with God, but that we have a way of thinking about theology, and of ethics which is rooted in compassion and grace. Rob begins his dialog with Lisa Miller with a brief sermonette where he says that we have "lost the plot" of the gospel which he defines simply as "God is love and sent Jesus to show us this love, that we might know this love, and extend it to others." There's that focus on relationship again: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Knowing&lt;/span&gt; God's love," and there it is right alongside of a focus on compassion "and extend it to others."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to stress that I do not want to say here that doctrine or morality are unimportant. I think they are tremendously important in fact, and I'm sure Rob does too. I also am not saying I agree with everything Rob Bell says in his book. I disagree with him on a lot of things (which I think is a good and healthy thing). But what I see him doing &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;primarily&lt;/span&gt; is recognizing as a pastor that people are being hurt by the way these doctrines present God, and wanting to address that hurt. His is a pastoral focus rather than an exegetical one (in other words a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;relational&lt;/span&gt; focus, rather than a detached intellectual one), and I think it is in fact a much more important focus to have when interpreting the Bible. In fact, I would go so far as to say that without that pastoral/relational focus, it is not possible to do proper exegesis. In many ways, to be a so-called "new evangelical" is to get that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-5130508079040681523?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/lJpOCCymBuQ" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2011/05/love-wins-2-rob-bell-and-new.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>13</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-2998395703449640872</guid><pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:12:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-04-23T23:22:09.271-07:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">love of enemies</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">relationship with God</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">books</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">gospel</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Evangelicalism</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">born again</category><title>Love Wins - rethinking the gospel</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I'm reading through Rob Bell's new book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Love-Wins-About-Heaven-Person/dp/006204964X"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Love Wins&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and am loving it so far. He begins the book in the preface by saying its good to ask hard questions, that God &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;wants&lt;/span&gt; us to ask them, and then proceeds in the first chapter to ask a bunch of hard questions about the "good news" of the gospel that can sound like bad news:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;God loves us.&lt;br /&gt;God offers us everlasting life by grace, freely, through no merit on our part.&lt;br /&gt;Unless you do not respond in the right way. Then God will torture you forever.&lt;br /&gt;In Hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Huh?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Is God really going to torture people you love forever in hell because they didn't accept his love? Is that how love acts? is that what grace looks like? Is that what justice looks like? Is that what holiness looks like?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hell no.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Isn't God the one who teaches us to forgive and love our enemies? So if that's true, then why would God act the opposite? I'm sure you've heard people say it is because he takes sin so seriously, but really doesn't that in fact &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;trivialize&lt;/span&gt; sin? Doesn't it make God look petty and unjust? That is one of the biggest reasons people leave the faith, that and all the suffering and injustice in the world. In short, the major reason people leave Christianity is because of moral outrage, because sin--real sin, the kind that deeply wounds people, the kind that destroys lives--is not being taken seriously enough.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about rape? What about abuse? What about all the violence and oppression in our world? That's the kind of thing that I think God cares about, and he cares because these things are killing us, and he loves us. God is not concerned with his "glory" because God is not egotistical. God is love, and that means that what God really wants, what it truly means to love him, is to love each other. That's a point you will find being made over and over in the NT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The heart of the gospel is that God does not come to judge us (even though  he hates these horrible things we do to each other), he comes to save, he has come to pull us out of that world of hurting and being hurt. That's what real justice is about, making things right, and that is what Jesus was all about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That way of making things right--the gospel--begins with God entering into our hearts and lives and showing us what it means to be loved. I'm taking here about being born again, about having a personal relationship with God where you come to know God's loving grace first hand, where God just pours his love out on you until it completely changes who you are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One place I disagree with Rob is when he says that the phrase "relationship with God" is not in the Bible. Of course it is not there verbatim, but then a lot of things are not which are still truly biblical. Like the Trinity for example. The question is whether the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;concept&lt;/span&gt; is there, and I think it clearly is (both the Trinity and relationship with God). Loving God, Jesus says, is the "greatest commandment."  But as I said, it can't stop there. If we really love God, if we really know grace, know what it means to be loved unconditionally, then this can't help but spill out into all of our life. We will feel compelled to live out that grace with others, to love like Jesus did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is the urgency that Jesus preaches: stop hurting each other, stop with your stupid wars and killing in God's name, stop with all the condemnation and hatred! Learn the way of the cross, the way of overcoming evil with good, the way of enemy love. That is a way that is not just some trivial religious concern which seems so tangential to life, it is about real stuff, life and death stuff, quite literally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Living&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; in that&lt;/span&gt; is the gospel. The gospel is absolutely &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;inseparable&lt;/span&gt; from love of enemies. In other words, the gospel is about radically loving &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;everyone&lt;/span&gt;. That means that we have to care about poverty and starvation (Jesus certainly did!), we have to care about human trafficking and war and corporate abuse and a host of other social causes because belonging to Jesus means we care about people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's the gospel: being loved by God so that we can know love and walk in the way of love--knowing grace firsthand so we can show that grace in a world that desperately needs it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-2998395703449640872?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Here I'd like to deal with the second part:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"I struggle to see how your definition of God's righteousness/justice  will hold in Rom 3:21-26, especially vv. 25-26. When God passed over  previously committed sins, does that mean he never healed people of  their brokenness? And if so, how does healing that brokenness now  through the cross show that God is, in fact, restoratively just when he  restores those who have faith in Christ (3:26)? In other words, I still  don't see the need for a blood-stained cross in your system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I think Paul's logic in this section of Romans makes much more sense if  the question he's addressing is not "When will God restore broken,  fractured lives" (important as that question is) but rather, "How can  God possibly forgive punishment-deserving rebels in a way that doesn't  make a mockery of the very retribution they deserve?" In other words,  How can God be both just and the justifier? Remember, the question that  sets this section going is a question of God's wrath against rebellious  humans (1:18-3:20). It's not a question about our fractured human lives.  We are victims to be sure, but far more serious is the fact that we are  perpetrators and that all our sin is finally directed Godward."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As Peter notes, my definition of "God's righteousness/justice" (Greek: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;diakaiosyne theo&lt;/span&gt;) is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;restorative &lt;/span&gt;justice, as opposed to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;retributive &lt;/span&gt;justice. Peter asks about how that understanding of justice as "making things right" fits with Romans 3:25-26:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,  through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this  to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left  the sins committed beforehand unpunished— he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as  to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So let's back up to the beginning of Romans and follow Paul's argument up to here. Paul opens Romans with a discussion of the wrath God (beginning at Ro 1:18). Wrath here can be understood as retributive justice: it is the just punitive consequence for our sinful actions. We do bad stuff, and bad things happen to us. It is the law of sewing and reaping,  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;quid pro quo&lt;/span&gt;, or if you like "karma." Paul is addressing his fellow Jews, and begins by speaking about pagan depravity. At this point his audience is thinking "yeah, those pagans sure are rotten! God's gonna get them!" It is here that Paul turns the tables and says that we have no right to judge others when we are just as bad. He then goes on to argue (Ro 2:1-3:20) that we are all under sin, and therefore when we hope for God to judge, we are in fact calling down wrath on ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is something that Paul knew from practical experience. He had himself, before his conversion, not only wished for God's wrath, but had seen himself as an instrument of it, acting to persecute, harm, and even kill Christians based on his belief that he was doing this all in the name of God. Paul's major sin was that of religious zeal leading to acts of violence in God's name. This motivation to religious violence was common in his time, has continued to be among the church throughout its history (the crusades, the inquisitions, etc) and frankly still is today among many Christians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Paul begins by saying that we are all guilty of sins in general (chapter 2), he then moves on in chapter 3 to address the specific sins of religious people. Notice that the specific sins he lists here  have to do with hateful speech (“Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit. The poison of vipers is on their lips. Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness”) and violence (“Their feet are swift to shed blood; ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know. There is no fear of God before their eyes.”) What Paul is describing here is the sins of religious zeal that results in hateful judgment and acts of violence done in God's name. Since Paul would of course include himself in his indictment, we could read this as Paul's own confession of the shape of his religious life before his conversion:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“My throats was an open grave; my tongue practiced deceit. The  poison of vipers was on my lips. My mouth was full of cursing and  bitterness.&lt;br /&gt;My feet were swift to shed blood; ruin and  misery marked my ways, and the way of peace I did not know. There is  no fear of God before my eyes.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Paul did not know the way of peace, and there was no fear of God before his eyes. So Paul's aim in this first part of his argument is to put the fear of God before our eyes: if we continue on this way of judgment and retribution, it will lead to our own destruction. This is also a common theme of Jesus in the Gospels. Jesus warns of God's wrath unless we embrace the radical way of forgiveness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point in Romans, Paul introduces a new concept: "But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify" (Ro 3:21). The law here represents the system of retributive justice, of blessings and curses, that Paul has been discussing up to now. If we obey the law we receive blessing, and if we break it we find wrath. Paul contrasts this way of retribution with "the righteousness/justice of God." This is God's action, motivated by unmerited love of enemies, to make things right. It is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;restorative&lt;/span&gt; justice. So what Paul is proposing is that God's restorative justice breaks into the cycle of violence inherit in retributive justice. God overcomes the cycle of our hurting and being hurt by acting to restore and reconcile us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With all that in mind, let's return to 3:25-26: Paul writes that God made things right through Jesus in order to "demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left  the sins committed beforehand unpunished." In other words, God leaving sins unpunished was seen as wrong by Paul's audience who wanted to see God's wrath poured out on bad people. They felt it was unfair that bad people got away with it, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;wanted&lt;/span&gt; God to punish them. Paul has been arguing that the bigger problem is that we are &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;all&lt;/span&gt; bad, and so in wanting this we are really just hoping to add to the hatred and pain, we are pulling ourselves into the destructive cycle of retribution. In order for God to show that he was not unjust in leaving past sins unpunished, in not wiping us all out (and it would be unjust to simply do nothing in the face of evil), God now acts to make things right through Jesus. "God did this to demonstrate his &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;restorative justice&lt;/span&gt; at the present time, so as to  be &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;just&lt;/span&gt; and the one who &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;justifies&lt;/span&gt; those who have faith in Jesus." (v 26, my translation). We could also translate this verse as "God did this to demonstrate his &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;goodness&lt;/span&gt; at the present time, so as to  be &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;good&lt;/span&gt; and the one who &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;makes-good&lt;/span&gt; those who have faith in Jesus."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I think Peter is absolutely right in saying that Paul is not addressing the question "When will God restore broken,   fractured lives" (important as that question is) but rather, "How can   God possibly forgive punishment-deserving rebels in a way that doesn't   make a mockery of the very retribution they deserve?" More specifically, the question is how can God just ignore sin, and not punish it? Paul's answer is that God cannot simply ignore sin and be just, but God &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;can&lt;/span&gt; act to heal sin (and sinners) and make things right, and in doing so God demonstrates &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;true&lt;/span&gt; justice which is God's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;restorative&lt;/span&gt; justice that comes through Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;how exactly &lt;/span&gt;God's action in Jesus (in the incarnation, cross, and resurrection) acts to restore us, Paul does not detail here (he does elsewhere, but that will need to be the subject of another post). He simply claims here that what God is doing &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;now&lt;/span&gt; in Jesus &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;apart from law&lt;/span&gt; (that is, in contrast to the system of retribution) is about God's act to restore ("the justice of God" &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;diakaiosyne theo&lt;/span&gt;) as an answer to the problem of retributive justice (wrath).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peter Gurry writes that "We are victims to be sure, but far more serious is the fact that we are   perpetrators and that all our sin is finally directed Godward." As we have seen, Paul was a perpetrator. That sin was indeed directed Godward. Jesus confronts Paul on the road to Damascus with the words "&lt;span class="woj" style=""&gt;I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting" (Acts 9:5).&lt;/span&gt; Because God identifies with the victim, when we hurt others, even when we do this as Paul did in God's name, (or perhaps &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;especially&lt;/span&gt; when we do) as do it unto them, the least, the vulnerable, we do it unto God. But what Paul the violent perpetrator encountered was grace and forgiveness instead of wrath, and that unmerited enemy love turned him around so that he renounced his former commitment to the way of retribution, and instead embraced the way of grace and restorative justice in Jesus. Paul's brokenness was precisely his hurtful understanding of religion that lead him to hatred and violence, and it is this wrong understanding of justice that Jesus undoes in Paul, replacing that with a new understanding of God's justice typified by restorative enemy love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Following Jesus means following in that way of love of enemies, of forsaking judgment and instead embracing healing restoring forgiveness. To claim that the atonement is one rooted in the fulfillment of a retributive demand (that God punishes Jesus to fulfill the demands of retributive justice) is to utterly miss the entire point of the New Testament--that God's way is the way of radical restorative grace. That is what&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; God's justice &lt;/span&gt;means. The cross is a demonstration  of that restorative justice acting to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;overcome&lt;/span&gt; the way of retribution by making things good again, rather than adding hurt to hurt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-3460745657107804881?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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His first question was,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Derek, where's the vertical dimension of sin in your system? I can fully  agree that we are broken and need healing but your solution only deals  with the horizontal brokenness, not the vertical offensiveness. How does  your system deal with profoundly horizontal human sins that are  nevertheless against God and God alone (Psalm 51:4)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Now the inscription of Psalm 51 reads "&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;A psalm of David. When the prophet Nathan came to him after David had committed adultery with Bathsheba&lt;/span&gt;." So the sins that David is confessing here are specifically adultery and murder. David sleeps with Bathsheba, gets her pregnant, and then has her husband killed, telling his men, "Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die" (2 Sam 11:15). So when David says to God in Psalm 51 "against you, and you only have I sinned" (51:4) he says this referring to the very &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;horizontal &lt;/span&gt;sins of adultery and murder. So how can these horizontal sins (sins against people) be spoken of in vertical terms (as sins against God) as David does?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we look at Nathan's rebuke of David we read,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: "I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you from the hand of Saul... I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too  little, I would have given you even more."   Why did you despise the word of the LORD by doing what is evil in his  eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife  to be your own. (2 &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Sa&lt;/span&gt; 12:7-9)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;After all that God had done for David, he still did not trust in him. David "despises" all of that  generosity of God in his hurtful actions. It's a matter here of David not trusting in God as his source for goodness, and taking matters into his own hands in a way that damages others. He has damaged his relationships both horizontally and vertically.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We see an even deeper insight into what is going on here in the words of Jesus "as you have done it unto the least of these, you have done it unto me" (Mt 25:40). Here we see that when we hurt others, we wound God too. In the world of king David the one who was offended by the adultery was the husband. Having the husband killed removed the problem, and David simply took Bathsheba as his wife. That was king David's messed up thinking here. Nathan saying that David's actions were also an offense to God is a way of leveling out that  messed up system of honor. It says that even if we hurt someone who is without honor, even if we neglect "the least" we are ultimately hurting the one with the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;most &lt;/span&gt;honor, God. It takes the whole system of rank and honor and levels it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point of course is not that we should care for God's honor &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as opposed to&lt;/span&gt; caring about people's honor. David in saying "against you, and you only" is not saying he did not sin against Uriah and Bathsheba. What he is saying is that every sin against people is ultimately a sin against God their maker. As Jesus says, God sees every sparrow that falls to the ground. To love God is to love others, and of we fail to love others, we fail to love God. John says, "whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar" (1 &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Jn&lt;/span&gt; 4:20). Vertical sin is tied to horizontal sin. In other words, all horizontal sin is ultimately vertical sin. When the Bible stresses this, there are two reasons:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One reason is that God wants us to love others, especially those we regard as the least. God is love and his priority is on our loving others as the biggest way that we show of love for him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other equally important reason is that we were created to be in a loving relationship of dependent trust with God. God needs to be our source. This is the point that Nathan is making above. We need to place our trust in God and see our relationship with him as primary, because all of our goodness flows out of our living &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in and through&lt;/span&gt; a right relationship with God, who works in us and shapes us into the image of his Son. The fundamental starting point of salvation is that restored relationship with God--restoring that vertical connection--so that we can live &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;in, with, and through&lt;/span&gt; the indwelling Spirit of Christ. It's all about restoring that loving &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;transformative&lt;/span&gt; relationship with God. As we are loved by God, that love changes us, and leads us to love others in the same way we were loved. We want to show the same grace to others that God first showed us. So the horizontal flows from the vertical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the question that remains is: how does God mend the broken relationship between him and us in Jesus? For that we turn to Romans which I will deal with in my next post...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-6191360587171290000?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/XAe3s_YZ92k" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2011/01/vertical-dimention-of-sin.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>3</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-7076646032309909978</guid><pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:31:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2011-01-18T21:06:41.906-08:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">homosexuality</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">compassion</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">film and media</category><title>Can you be gay and Christian?</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In a &lt;a href="http://www.therebelgod.com/2009/12/evangelical-approach-to-homosexuality.html"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt; I suggested that we should have a moratorium of arguing about the rightness/wrongness of homosexuality, and instead focus on communicating God's unconditional love to people. A big part of this has to do with getting past all the rhetoric that goes back and forth, and really listening to the personal stories and experiences people have -- hearing their stories, and actually &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;seeing&lt;/span&gt; the people behind the issues. With that in mind I wanted to share this video made by employees at Pixar Animation Studios talking about what its is like growing up gay:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4a4MR8oI_B8?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x234900&amp;amp;color2=0x4e9e00"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4a4MR8oI_B8?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;color1=0x234900&amp;amp;color2=0x4e9e00" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="340" width="560"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In it they share how they faced rejection and even verbal and physical violence. Others speak of struggling with self-loathing. One person shares how she nearly committed suicide. It's pretty heavy stuff, looking into their eyes as they tell these stories one after another. Really what just hits home is that behind all of this are real people--people who were really hurting, people who almost didn't make it. I hope that stops you in your tracks like it did me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The whole video is made as a message to people who are struggling with  their homosexuality to let them know they are not alone, that people care about them, and that it really does get better. I kept thinking as I watched it that this is what the church really needs to be speaking out and saying. When we "take a stand on morality" that is the kind of stand we should be taking. A stand that sees the people who are hurting and cast out and communicates God's unconditional love to them. A stand that rebukes people who are preaching condemnation. That's the kind of thing that Jesus stood up for all the time. We need to be communicating grace to people, communicating to them that they are loved. So I thought I'd just start by saying it here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are people who say that the Bible says homosexuality is a sin, and there are people who say the Bible does not say that. There really is not any clear answer, and a really big part of this has to do with the fact that sexuality is a profoundly complex thing that just cannot be reduced to simple categories of yes/no or good/bad. What is healthy and loving for any of us--gay or strait-- is just way too complex to be handled by a blanket one-size-fits-all statement, and it is simply  a mistake to read the Bible like that as a source of  general moral "rules" we can apply. What we need instead is to be open to the Spirit in our lives, to let the Spirit lovingly grow us into wholeness, working on areas we need to, mending the broken parts, loving us. In other words, we do not need a list of rules, we need a living and transformative relationship with God where the Spirit can show us personally what we need to grow and be whole in the same way a doctor prescribes the medicine a patient needs and does not give everyone the same pill. It's not about some list of do's and don'ts, it's about opening our hearts to that living relationship with God. That relationship begins with God's unconditional embrace of us. It begins with us having the courage to let God love all of who we are--scars and all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you are gay, you really should know that God loves you and there is  nothing that you could possibly do to make God love you more, and  nothing you can do to make God stop loving you. God does not want you to  hide who you are because God loves who you are. Now there may be areas  in your life that need healing (there certainly are in mine), but that's  up to you and the Spirit to work out together in your relationship with  God. It is up to the rest of us to be advocates for that amazing unconditional love of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-7076646032309909978?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/Sfzinx7t8mA" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2011/01/wrestling-with-god.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>0</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-6379377640945504054</guid><pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:11:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2010-12-24T09:26:50.580-08:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">exegesis</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">love of enemies</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ethics</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">violence</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">nonviolence</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">theology of the cross</category><title>Why the Cross Matters (Pt 2)</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.therebelgod.com/2010/11/why-cross-matters-pt-1.html"&gt;Last time&lt;/a&gt; I left off speaking of Paul's exegetical declaration "I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified" (1 Co 2:2). &lt;a href="http://www.therebelgod.com/2010/11/why-cross-matters-pt-1.html"&gt;The cross has a profound affect on how we read the Bible&lt;/a&gt;, and is key to its proper interpretation. This time I want to focus on how the cross affects how we think and how we live, that is, how it is the key to  a Jesus-shaped ethics.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0.2in;" align="JUSTIFY"&gt;Paul's stance of seeing everything through the lens of "Christ crucified" completely revolutionized how he read Scripture, and it also revolutionized how he lived his life, and his understanding of what it meant to follow God. That is not just pious talk, Paul radically changed his approach to faith, going from a faith which led him to violently persecute the church, to one that led him to endure persecution in Jesus name.  He went from legalism to grace, from religiously justified violence to enemy love and nonviolence.  At the heart of that change is the cross. Having listed all the things he used to see a central to his faith, Paul writes, "I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ" (Phil 3:8). Now what does it mean to "gain Christ"? He continues, "I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead. (v 10-11). Notice the pattern here of knowing the power of the resurrection &lt;i&gt;by&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;becoming like him in his death&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0.2in;" align="JUSTIFY"&gt;This echos the pattern Paul has set up in the previous chapter where he tells of how Christ "being in very nature God... made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant" (Phil 2:6-7) and how that act of self-giving and dying to self resulted in "every tongue acknowledging that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" (v 11).  For Paul, saying "Jesus is Lord" means that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the crucified one is Lord&lt;/span&gt;, and thus that God has proclaimed the way of the cross as both God's way and our way. This is, as Michael Gorman calls it, Paul's "master story"  of both the narrative of God's actions in Jesus, and of our model of ethics as we take up our cross and follow. Paul in fact directly connects the example of Christ in the opening hymn of Philippians with how &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;we should act&lt;/span&gt;. He introduces it by saying, "In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus" (v 5). Our way of life needs to be the way of the cross, the way of doing "nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others." (v 3-4).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0.2in;" align="JUSTIFY"&gt;Paul makes an identical point in in Romans when he says we are to live as a "living sacrifice" (Ro 12:1) so that how we think, see, and act is formed by the cross . He continues, "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind" (v 2).  Notice here, as in Philippians, Paul draws a direct connection between Christ's sacrificial death and our ethical response. In fact, more than any "theory" of the atonement, what we see in the NT again and again is a connection made from what Jesus did, and what we should do. The cross leads to ethics. From the perspective of the New Testament, this is not a side point, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;it is the main point&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0.2in;" align="JUSTIFY"&gt;Paul goes on in this chapter to outline what that looks like. It involves being "we-focused" rather than "me-focused," caring for those in need, demonstrating humility and compassion... but the crux of it all (if you pardon the pun) is summed up in his concluding statement "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good" (12:21). We see here that Paul's understanding of the Christ crucified, and what it means for us to declare the crucified Jesus "Lord" is deeply tied to what we see Jesus doing throughout the gospels in his teaching and ministry. That is, in order to understand the cross we need to get that all of what Jesus did lead up to the cross.  The way of Jesus we see throughout the gospels is the way of the cross. Paul directly makes that connection for us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why does the cross matter? Because the atonement is inseparable from ethics, and from exegesis. Understanding the cross properly does not just have an impact on our own personal salvation and relationship with God (as important at that is!), it also changes how we see our world, what we value, and how we treat others.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-6379377640945504054?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/SkH8L4i9LvE" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2010/11/why-cross-matters-pt-2.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>9</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-5596113902449554695</guid><pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2010-11-21T21:29:46.369-08:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">exegesis</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ethics</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">nonviolence</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">theology of the cross</category><title>Why the Cross Matters (Pt 1)</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Today is "Christ the King Sunday" and that seemed like an appropriate time to begin a series of posts I wanted to do on why the cross matters. This time I wanted to address how the cross affects how we interpret Scripture. I've said before that we need to read the Old Testament through the eyes of Jesus in order to properly understand it the way the New Testament does. However I want here to make that  more specific: we need to take all of what we read and bring it to the cross in order to understand it correctly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0.2in;" align="JUSTIFY"&gt;This can be clearly seen in how the cross shapes our understanding of who God's true messiah is. Peter along with the majority of his fellow Jews at the time had expected the messiah to be a warrior king who would lead Israel to conquer the gentiles by the sword, just as Joshua had done for Israel when it entered the promised land. Their hopes of having a just world free from oppression were tied up in this being brought about through violence and bloodshed in the name of God, freedom, and justice. It is an ethos that I'm sure we all recognize as being alive and well today as well, but it was decidedly not the way of Jesus. Jesus did not come to kill the gentiles and sinners, he came to reconcile and save them, and he did not plan on bringing about this "deliverance" by military conquest, but by giving his life on a cross.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0.2in;" align="JUSTIFY"&gt;This was an idea that was so completely foreign to Peter that when he heard it, he exclaimed to Jesus "never Lord!" Peter says this immediately after he has declared that Jesus is the messiah. The two go hand in hand. Peter's idea of the messiah, based on what he saw in the OT was one of a war lord who redeems through violent force. But Jesus says to him "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men" (Mt 16:23). I'm sure you've heard many sermons on the first part of that sentence, but I want to highlight the last part: &lt;i&gt;you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men. &lt;/i&gt;Jesus thinks that Peter's understanding of the messiah--an understanding that the majority of biblical scholars would agree is solidly founded on the Old Testament texts--does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; represent God's way but man's. So Peter and we need to completely redefine everything the OT says about the messiah in the light of the cross.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0.2in;" align="JUSTIFY"&gt;We in fact need to do that with everything we read in the Old Testament. We need to take it to the cross and see how it is transformed by it. We need to apply the &lt;i&gt;theologica crucis&lt;/i&gt; to all our exegesis. An &lt;i&gt;exegesis of the cross&lt;/i&gt; if you will. Take for example the story of David and Goliath. There we have the tale of how the little guy overcomes the giant. But notice that the little guy still overcomes that giant by killing him. What we need to ask is how this story is like the cross, and how it is not. What in this story points us to the cross, and what in this story needs to die. In Jesus we have the story as well of the little "mustard seed" of the kingdom accomplishing big things, and we have the picture of Jesus overcoming and fighting evil, but the enemy is not other people, it is evil and death itself. Jesus does not win the battle by violence and force, but by going to the cross.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0.2in;" align="JUSTIFY"&gt;It is crucial that we apply the cross to all of what we read in the Bible. This will  often necessarily mean deliberately subverting the intended meaning of a passage in the Old Testament--reading it in a way that may appear to be, as Paul says, "a stumbling block" and "foolishness" to some.  The theology of the cross carries with it exactly such radical consequences. It means not only our dying, but also the crucifixion of destructive religion itself.  This is precisely why the religious leaders of his time wanted Jesus killed. But as Jesus says, if we do not  learn how to bring the cross into our exegesis and let it shape how we interpret Scripture, we will likely end up like Peter misreading the Bible and promoting "the way of man not God." This is in fact exactly what Paul did before he met Jesus on the road to Damascus. He had read his Bible and saw in there that the way to defend God was through violent zeal, and he exercised that zeal, that violence in the name of God, in persecuting the church. But after he met the crucified Lord, he read those same Scriptures and saw a completely different narrative. So he proclaims boldly "I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified" (1 Co 2:2).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-5596113902449554695?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Shortly after writing that I got an email from a reader asking me what I thought of the charismatic movement. They raised a number of important questions, but it all really boiled down to this one:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"But the core of it all - for me it seems that the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;charismatic movement from its beginning has lead people to believe in an authoritarian God. A God who comes with force, who overpowers you etc. Where as in Jesus I see a very different approach."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think this raises a very important point: when speaking about "basing theology on experience" that needs a qualifier. I should say basing theology on the experience &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;of grace&lt;/span&gt;. Grace is the central narrative of the New Testament, and it is also the lens though which Jesus and the authors of the NT interpreted the Old Testament. Grace is what characterized the entire ministry of Jesus to the sick and the sinner. Grace is what turned a violent Saul into the Chirst following apostle Paul. Miss grace and you miss everything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The gospels tell a beautiful story of a "sinful woman" who washes Jesus' feet with her tears and pours a jar of alabaster perfume over them. The Pharasees are shocked at this display. But Jesus says "those who are forgiven little, love little" (Lk 7:4). From that let me make a bold assertion: Those who do not know grace, cannot properly understand the Bible. Those who have experienced grace little, understand the Bible little.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, if we have experienced grace - that is, if we have known God's amazing grace in the middle of all of our brokenness, darkness, and hurt, that unearned wonderful love completely changes us. It sends us to our knees, it melts our hearts. Such a lived experience of grace is absolutely essential to proper theology. Truth to be understood, must be lived. We need to come to the text as those who know grace and have been transformed by it. Otherwise we may miss its central point. We see this in the story of Paul who before his encounter with Jesus has in fact completely misread the narrative of Scripture and as a result was opposing the church. When he was encountered by grace, this changed his whole outlook, including how he read the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This experience of God's grace also needs to be how we judge our own religious experiences and interactions with others. Are these demonstrating grace? Are we encountering people with God's transforming love? Is that the main focus of what we do? When charismatics focus more on the manifestation of gifts than then do on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;purpose&lt;/span&gt; of a gift which is to show love, then I think they miss grace. I was raised charismatic, and still consider myself to be charismatic,  so I know that church (it's good parts and bad parts) quite well. I've been in services that get really hyped up and freaky. I've seen many pastors who are on power trips. I've also seen us evangelicals focus on morals and "right and wrong" in a really unloving combative way when what we should be doing is treating others with the same mercy we so desperately need. In each of these grace gets pushed out of the way when it should be the very center of what we do and who we are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.  If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all  knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not  have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. &lt;/span&gt;(1 Cor 13:1-8a)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-7510205974942662548?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/dn0VeufgO7E" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2010/11/basing-theology-on-experience-pt-2.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>6</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-7928382108807265839</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2010-11-03T01:36:35.738-07:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">exegesis</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bible</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">ethics</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">gospel</category><title>Getting Historical Jesus Study Wright and Wrong</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I recently blogged about &lt;a href="http://www.therebelgod.com/2010/09/why-historical-study-of-jesus-is-waste.html"&gt;why the historical study of Jesus is a waste of time&lt;/a&gt;.  There I argued against the prevalent mode of historical Jesus studies,  which has been to pick which sayings of Jesus are "authentic" and toss  out the rest. Apparently, I am not the only one who has problems with  this. For example a few months ago &lt;a href="http://www.patheos.com/community/jesuscreed/"&gt;Scot McKnight &lt;/a&gt; wrote a scathing&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/april/15.22.html"&gt; article in Christianity Today&lt;/a&gt; where he made many of the same points I did in &lt;a href="http://www.therebelgod.com/2010/09/why-historical-study-of-jesus-is-waste.html"&gt;my previous blog post &lt;/a&gt;here. In his &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/april/16.27.html"&gt;response to McKnight,&lt;/a&gt;  NT Wright argued that there is a "massive gulf" between the way he (and  a few others) do historical Jesus studies, and the kind of historical  Jesus studies that McKnight and I are criticizing. What Wright does in  contrast is all about understanding the historical context and worldview  of the time so that we can then read the canonical text without  projecting our own assumptions and worldviews into it. This is something  that I could whole-heartedly embrace. So I guess I should re-title that  blog post "why the historical study of Jesus was a waste of time until  NT Wright came along."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, there are some problems that  folks have raised with Wright's historical reconstruction of Jesus. I'd  like to discuss two of those here and then offer my own thoughts about  them. They are (a) the existence of heaven, and (b) the doctrine of  justification. So pretty heavy-duty topics. Let me also say at the outset that I offer these critiques with great respect. NT Wright is not only a brilliant scholar, he is also a caring pastor with a real heart for people and for ethics, so I know that the issues I'm raising here are ones he cares about too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Imagine There's no Heaven&lt;/span&gt;.  NT Wright has made a point of saying that the NT does not teach that  Christians go to heaven when we die. One example of this is &lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1710844,00.html"&gt;an interview&lt;/a&gt; he gave in Time magazine called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Christians Wrong About Heaven, Says Bishop."&lt;/span&gt;  Instead Wright focuses on the larger message that we will all one day  rise when Jesus comes back. That of course raises the question: where  are my loved ones now? &lt;strong style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Markus Bockmuehl gave a &lt;a href="http://www.wheaton.edu/media/BITH/100417Bockmuehl.html"&gt;talk&lt;/a&gt; at this years &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wheaton.edu/wetn/lectures-theology10.htm"&gt;Wheaton Theology Conference&lt;/a&gt;  (check out the link for video and audio of all the talks) where he  demonstrated persuasively from biblical evidence that Wright was wrong  about this (or at least that he is only telling half the story).  Believers when they die will indeed go to be with Jesus and the  community of the saints and be in heaven with God. In the following &lt;a href="http://www.wheaton.edu/media/BITH/100417TheoConPanel.html"&gt;panel discussion&lt;/a&gt;  session, Wright does not really disagree with Bockmuehl (although he  feels a bit misunderstood), and instead stresses that the reason he  focuses so much this non-heaven line is because he wants to get away  from the escapist notion of heaven that is so common. Fair enough, but  that's like saying God does not exist because people's faith is too  escapist (which is of course exactly what the New Atheists do).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So  what we have is a matter of emphasis: The NT says that we go to heaven  (or if you prefer, we go to "be with Jesus"), and it says that we will  all rise in the great resurrection. The focus of the NT is on the later.  What then happens is that Wright will be quoted by Time or some other  news source which will then simplify this to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;"Christians Wrong About Heaven"&lt;/span&gt;  and next thing you know folks are going claiming there is no such thing  as heaven (and I've heard seminarians claim exactly that). Wright does  not mind this so much because he believes that it is important that we  draw our attention away from heaven which he associates with escapism.   Here he is making a legitimate ethical point (our concept of heaven  should not be escapist), but he is doing so with the wrong means (saying  as a historian and scholar that the Bible does not teach that we go to  heaven).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This illustrates something that happens all too often  with historical Jesus studies: Scholars will use their authority status  as historical experts to make ethical points. The very same thing  happens when other historical Jesus  scholars claim that Jesus did not  actually say something which... big surprise...  they don't like. Now it  is certainly valid for these scholars to make such ethical points, but  we need to be very careful here. It is very important to be forthright  about the ethical claims that are being made, and not mask these behind  the mantle  of objective historical research. That would be a misuse of  both ethics and historical study, and do a disservice to both  disciplines.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What Wright is saying is an ethical point: we should  care for this earth. We should be involved in healing our world here. I  totally agree with him on that (and highly recommend his &lt;a href="http://www.wheaton.edu/media/BITH/100417Wright.html"&gt;closing talk&lt;/a&gt;).  But that is really an ethical and theological issue, and needs to be  discussed openly as such. Frankly, I do not find Jewish apocalyptic  helpful at all in working towards this. I find on the contrary that it  muddies the waters quite a bit. Maybe that's just me, but I think the  focus needs to be on how we can implement the kingdom teaching and  actions of Jesus right now in our lives, and not on grasping some  foreign concept of eschatology from another worldview. That gets our  focus off of what it should be on, which is embodying Christ-like action  in our world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Does Luther get Justification&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Wrong? &lt;/span&gt;Another  issue is related to Wright's  take on the New Perspective on  Paul, which basically says that Paul in Romans is not focused on  answering Luther's question of "how can I find a gracious God?" and  instead is arguing against issues of food laws and ritual observances.  Now I've personally been a proponent of the New Perspective (in particular the version espoused by James Dunn). I find it  brings a lot of things to light that had been missed before, like how  the gospel deals with issues of religious violence, and exclusiveness. I  think it is fair to say that the New Perspective gets Paul right historically in a  way that Luther does not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, I think that Luther did manage to  see how Paul's message of grace in his own time spoke directly to the  issues that Luther was dealing with in his. A first step in biblical  interpretation is to understand the original context and meaning, but  then we need to go beyond that ask how the text might speak to our own  pressing questions. Otherwise it  just becomes a letter dealing with  issues that were important in the past, which are no longer relevant to  us today (food laws, circumcision, etc).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I think it would be a mistake is to say that the New Perspective is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the one right way&lt;/span&gt;  to read Paul. Wright however does seem to place  precisely that kind of  priority on his historical reading, and that is what I would want  (lovingly I hope) to challenge. The New Perspective definitely has many  profound insights that we need to hear, but then so did Luther and the  protestant reformation. Why can't we hear and learn from both of them?  The other Martin Luther (King Jr.) also read the New Testament and found  it speaking to issues of racial justice and equality, applying it in  ways that the original authors also had not directly envisioned at the  time. Do we need to dismiss that too because it is equally unhistorical?  On the contrary, I'd say that what Luther and MLK were doing is exactly  what we are supposed to do too. We too need to learn how to read the  Bible and see how it message speaks into our lives and world today. That  is after all the theological task: not just to correctly read the past,  but to construct a vision for how to apply the gospel to our time. That  means we will need to deal with things which were not even on their  radar back then: world hunger relief, globalization, medical ethics, and  on and on. Historical grounding is a great place to start, but it is  not where we should stop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-7928382108807265839?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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Others cast the net a bit further and say that it is the quadrilateral of Scripture, reason, tradition, and experience. That last one, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;experience&lt;/span&gt;, always comes in last. Lots of people are really wary of experience. It makes them think of uncontrolled emotion, subjective feelings, and stuff out of control. But I'd like to make the somewhat radical proposal that experience should be the central category for how we do theology, and that this is a deeply biblical position to take.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By experience I simply mean actually knowing God in a relationship, so that faith is lived and not merely theoretical. That has very little to too with emotions (although there is nothing wrong with emotion!), and everything to do with &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;living&lt;/span&gt; our faith, with actually loving God, ourselves, and others.  I imagine everyone is with me so far, but what about the Bible? Isn't that a matter of objective detached study?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is certainly how you learn to study it in seminary. But nevertheless I insist: No! this is not what understanding the Bible should be based on. I've discussed this in some detail in my &lt;a href="http://therebelgod.com/relational.html"&gt;article on relational theology&lt;/a&gt; so I don't want to rehash that here.  In a nutshell I would say (following &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Renewing-Center-Evangelical-Theology-Post-Theological/dp/0801031818/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1288692307&amp;amp;sr=8-19"&gt;Stanley Grenz&lt;/a&gt; here) that &lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;Scripture is primary because it informs &lt;i&gt;experience&lt;/i&gt;, shapes &lt;i&gt;reason&lt;/i&gt;, and is the source from which &lt;i&gt;tradition&lt;/i&gt; develops, as well its constant spur to reformation. At the same time however, Scripture ultimately serves a servant function of leading us into relationship with Christ so we can live out Christ-like relationships. So the goal is experience, namely the experience of meeting God and having that transform all our other experiences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The unforgivable sin, Jesus says, is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Jesus says this in the context of the Pharisees rejecting the work of the Spirit happening among them through the healing ministry of Jesus because it conflicted with their understanding of the law. Here &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;experience&lt;/span&gt; of what God was doing in Jesus trumps their &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;tradition&lt;/span&gt;, and their reading of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Scripture&lt;/span&gt;, and their &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;reasoning&lt;/span&gt;. There is nothing worse, no greater crime, Jesus says, than missing out one what the Spirit is doing right in front of you. It is, Jesus says, the biggest sin possible. Those are some pretty strong words.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With that in mind think about Paul's conversion: His experience  on the Damascus road  causes him to re-read Scripture anew in light of that encounter with Christ. Paul's experience of Christ caused him to completely re-think (reason) his whole tradition as a Pharisee, and how he had read Scripture. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;Experience &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;precedes&lt;/span&gt; exegesis. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Likewise, the council of Jerusalem in the book of Acts bases their decision to include gentiles in the gospel (which was a huge decision!) based primarily on the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;experience&lt;/span&gt; of what the Spirit was doing among them as testified to by Paul and Peter. Acknowledging this, James then connects their experience to what was foretold in the Scriptures. Experience again precedes and shapes biblical interpretation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From that I want to argue that in order to really get the Bible, you need to get grace, and the only way to really get it is to experience it. The woman who washed Jesus feet with her tears understood much more deeply than any of the religious scholars sitting at that table and looking down their noses at her did. We need to know grace like that, so its unconditional love brings us to our knees in gratitude, and makes us want to love that way too. Paul before he knew grace read the Bible and got it all wrong. After he met God in Christ on the Damascus road  and was struck blind, it was a disciple who was willing to love his enemy who healed him. Think about how it would effect you to be healed by the people who you had tried to kill. That's grace. After that he suddenly &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;got&lt;/span&gt; the Bible. We need to get some of that. So my prayer for you is that you would find grace in your life, that you would know what it means to be unconditionally loved, no matter how broken or messed up you are, and that being loved like that would change how you see everything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-7755724377128661026?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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So I thought I'd try and address that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll start with the quick answer: the denomination that I feel most at home in is the &lt;a href="http://www.vineyardusa.org"&gt;Vineyard&lt;/a&gt; since it is charismatic like me, but with a real focus on grace and caring for people. If I had to pick one church that really gets grace more than any other, it would be Jay Baker's &lt;a href="http://www.revolutionnyc.com/"&gt;Revolution NYC&lt;/a&gt;. Jay is kind of a hero to me because he is able to be so open, real, and always focused on grace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now let me make two points. First, I don't go to either of these churches. I don't go to Revolution NYC because it is on the other side of the country. I don't go to a Vineyard church either because while there a lot of them, there are none in the city I live in. Second,  I really don't know if Jay or the Vineyard teach Christus Victor as opposed to Penal Substitution. I'm not sure that's so important. What they do teach is grace, grace, grace. So what I would recommend to folks looking for a church is not to try and find one that teaches all the "right" stuff (isn't that focus part of the problem?) but rather to find a church that knows about grace. That is, a church where you can be real, where you can ask questions, where you can struggle, where they know we are all messed up and all need God's amazing transforming love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Right now I'm going to a Presbyterian church. The pastor of that church happens to agree with me on being opposed to penal substitution, (which is kind of surprising since Presbyterians are Calvinist!) but that is not really why I go there. I go there because of the focus on grace. There are folks who believe in penal substitutions who are totally focused on grace (John Wesley  and Charles Spurgeon come to mind for me), and then there are folks who instead have a gospel of fear, guilt, and legalism. It's the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;fruits&lt;/span&gt; that matter here, not the doctrinal statements. Or perhaps more accurately, its not what you say so much as it is how you walk that out that matters. So that's my advice for people looking for a chruch: find a church where  you can be real and honest that is focused on grace. Don't focus so  much on the Sunday sermon (not that it doesn't matter!) as you do on having real relationships with  people in that church (small groups are often a good way to do that).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before I started going to my current church we were going to a Baptist church. The pastor there was this wonderful loving guy, but he died sadly, and they brought in a new guy. This new guy believed all the same things, but he was angry, arrogant, uncompassionate, and preached that message of condemnation every week. It was the classic "God hates you and has a wonderful plan for your life" alter call to a religion of fear. Yuck.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, there are a lot of things that I did not agree with in that Baptist church with the loving pastor, and there are a lot I don't agree with in the church I go to now. If you can find a church that "gets it all right" that's great, but I never have. What I try to do instead is find a place that has the fruits of grace. A place that is imperfect (like I am!), but where we can all come and be real and show grace and love to each other as we work to grow closer to Jesus and love others like he loves us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I'm sure I'm oversimplifying things somewhat. After all, if doctrine did not matter I guess I would not spend so much time talking about it on this blog. I also don't want to imply that we should just go to churches that are "nice". That's not what grace is about because that's fake. The point I'm trying to make is you really can't judge a church by their denominational badge, or statement of faith, or compelling web page, or innovative worship service. You need to get to know a community of people who, like a family, will be imperfect, but hopefully, like a family, will also really love each other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wish I could give a more straightforward answer. Maybe a couple links to some awesome churches right by where you live. But the reality is that I don't have some super fantastic church over here where the grass is greener. I struggle with this just like you do. I'm pretty sure we all do. It's really pretty simple: love God with all your heart, and love your neighbor like you love yourself. But that's so hard to find. It seems that most churches either are good at being compassionate, but  leave out the focus on a close relationship with God (most mainline churches); or they are good  at that, but then get too legalistic (most Evangelical churches). Can't we do both?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The good news is I do see a real move towards that. Robert Webber has identified this as the &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Younger-Evangelicals-Facing-Challenges-World/dp/0801091527"&gt;Younger Evangelicals&lt;/a&gt;, but it is still very grass roots. You need to look between the lines to find it by really getting to know the people in the pews next to you. But we're out there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-7095325782657320904?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therebelgod/feed/~4/pIl1MZIuQKk" height="1" width="1"/&gt;</description><link>http://www.therebelgod.com/2010/10/what-church-do-you-go-to.html</link><author>noreply@blogger.com (Sharktacos)</author><thr:total>4</thr:total></item><item><guid isPermaLink="false">tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32298156.post-5738613170235045532</guid><pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate><atom:updated>2010-09-26T17:26:19.721-07:00</atom:updated><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">exegesis</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">Bible</category><category domain="http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#">gospel</category><title>Why the historical study of Jesus is a waste of time</title><description>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/pontifications/imgs/Shroud%20of%20Turin.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: left; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; cursor: pointer; width: 271px; height: 384px;" src="http://blog.beliefnet.com/pontifications/imgs/Shroud%20of%20Turin.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;First let me say that understanding the original history and context—that is, the background material—in which the New Testament takes place is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;without a doubt a very valuable task&lt;/span&gt;. We want to understand the original context of the writers of the NT so that we do not simply impose our doctrinal and cultural biases on to the text but actually hear what the NT authors are telling us. So I am not saying we shouldn't study. I've spent a lot of time deeply studying such things and maintain that such education is very important.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My gripe is with the very specific way that the quest for the historical Jesus, rooted in the assumptions of the historical-critical method, presents a view of Jesus that is deliberately opposed to the message of the New Testament. Rather than helping us to get closer to the original church and to the Bible, it denies this and pulls us away from it. Let me explain:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the main tasks of historical scholarship consists in determining the so called "authentic saying of Jesus." To do this scholars will distinguish sayings of Jesus that they believe come the  Q source as opposed to for example a saying that is unique to Luke's gospel. One major element here is the distinction between Jesus understood in the light of his crucifixion and resurrection on the one hand (which they reject as "inauthentic"), and a pre-resurrection understanding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the gospels are all about a message preached to us that the disciples finally got  after its fulfillment—after Jesus was crucified, raised from the dead, and the Spirit was imparted to the church. It was in that light that the disciples finally understood what Jesus was about all along and this is what we read in the four Gospels. All the stuff that Jesus did and said leads up the cross and resurrection. It gives us the context for understanding the cross and what it means, and at the same time it was only &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;after&lt;/span&gt; Jesus rose that they could look back and say "ohhhhh, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;now&lt;/span&gt; I get it!" The gospel's stories (Jesus healing and redeeming people, and his radical teaching) go hand in hand with the climax of that story at Easter and Pentecost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the historical search instead ignores the resurrection and wants to reconstruct a hypothetical version of Jesus as if there was no resurrection. In doing this they need to reject the entire point of the gospel writers, and toss out their message, calling it "inauthentic". They thus present a version of Jesus that Peter, Paul and John never believed in. Indeed most of the time in their so-called historical reconstruction Jesus either ends up coincidentally looking like a reflection of these scholars,  or a version of Jesus emerges that these scholars themselves can't do anything with and thus reject as "not compatible with the modern worldview." As a result this "historical" study does not help us understand the NT better, it begins by rejecting the very assumptions of the NT: the resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So why would we want to listen to anything that these "experts" say to us? Why would I want to listen to someone who is pulling be away from the message of the NT? I find life when I read the gospels and the NT because it brings me into the same encounter of God in Christ that the New Testament authors had. That encounter with the God of grace transforms me, fills me with new life, and as a result I want to listen to them. I trust them because it is through them that I found life, and found the risen cruciform Jesus. The message of the gospel brings life. In contrast to this the message of these historians brings doubt, cynicism, and darkness. It causes me to doubt the words of Christ as "inauthentic" and urges me to just toss out big portions the the NT as a result.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So when I read the gospels I am not interested in figuring out what came from the Markan tradition or what came from Q. I am interested in simply reading what the gospels actually say and understanding that as well as I can. Now there are many scholars who I think can help us in doing this. Ernst Käseman, Joachim Jeremias, James Dunn, and NT Wright all spring to mind. But when I hear people speak of determining the "authentic sayings of Jesus" all sorts of alarm bells go off in my head because this signals for me "let's try and go in the wrong direction away from the NT proclamation." Sorry that's not where I'm headed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;EDIT:&lt;/span&gt; I've been thinking a bit more about this and wanted add an important point. I don't so much disagree with the historical conclusions of these scholars. I think they get their &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;facts&lt;/span&gt; right much of the time. What I disagree with is the prescriptive conclusions they draw. That is, I think it is probably true that Jesus and Paul have a perspective that comes out of Jewish apocalyptic background while Mark, Luke, and John all approach faith more from a Hellenistic gnostic perspective. What I disagree with is that the Jewish perspective is the "right" one, and the Greek is "wrong" because this is obviously not what the early church thought when it included all of these books in the canon of the NT. What we see in the NT are two things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) There is a multitude of perspectives. We have some books that come from a Jewish worldview, and others that have a Greek worldview, and of course we can find even more nuance if we look closer. That means that the NT promotes diversity. It embraces the good insights of different cultures. It is not ethnocentric, but open, diverse, and broadminded. What the historical Jesus scholars get wrong is when they think they need to toss out all the Greek influence as "inauthentic" and replace it with the "authentic" or "original" Jewish perspective. This is just as close-minded as it was when an earlier church did the opposite and replaced all Jewish influence with Greek thought.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) The NT while embracing the good it finds in multiple cultures and worldviews does not blindly accept them. It engages in a culturally critical evaluation of them, taking some parts and rejecting others. In the NT for example the exclusivity of gnosticism was rejected while the idea of immediate experience of the presence of God was embraced. Similarly, while Jesus was Jewish his Judaism (and Paul's) was one that rejected the ethos of violence running through the OT. So along with an embrace of diverse perspectives we also find their critical &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;transformation&lt;/span&gt; by the NT authors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we find a picture of diversity, that is at the same time culturally critical in the NT.  That's pretty cool, and honestly if it were not for historical criticism we wouldn't have noticed that. So I take back what I said in my blog post title here. I &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;don't&lt;/span&gt; think that the historical Jesus is "a waste of time". It is valuable because it allows us to appreciate the broad range of perspectives that make up the NT witness.  What I maintain however is that when these historians say that one particular cultural perspective is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; authentic, real, good one, then at that point they are not only being narrow-minded, they are also going against the New Testament which embraces all cultures in order to lovingly transform them. Their historical analysis is right, but their interpretive prescription is wrong, and the NT has in contrast a hermeneutical prescription that is a lot more insightful and complex in how it engages culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/32298156-5738613170235045532?l=www.therebelgod.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="feedflare"&gt;
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