Watir Podcast

Podcast #54

Željko Filipin — Thu, 09 May 2013 06:47:09 +0000

Dave McNulla and Zeljko Filipin discuss recent articles written about Watir, Watir-Webdriver, testing frameworks, and testing services. Here are the links to the articles and blog posts:

Books

Ruby 2 Pick Ax
Cucumber Recipes
Reader Score (I mistated Watirbook score on the podcast by 10x)
- Homebrewer’s Guide = 2015 readers
- Cheese & Cucumber = 369 readers

Articles & Screencasts

Case Against Record & Playback – Adam Goucher
Checking for Javascript Errors - Alister Scott
Testing Contradictions – Alister Scott
Context Driven Testing – Cem Kaner
Open Browser Test Automation at Wikimedia - Chris McMahon
Using Cucumber to Adopt a Puppy – Jeff Cheezy Morgan
Screencast ‘Adopting Puppies’ - Jeff Cheezy Morgan
Screencast ‘Writing Custom RSpec Matchers’ - Jeff Cheezy Morgan
Screencast ‘Navigational Features of Page Objects’ - Jeff Cheezy Morgan
Continuous Integration with Jenkins – Dave McNulla
Server & Log Monitoring with Greylog2 – Dave McNulla
Could CSS3 Be Making Sites That Are Not Testable – David Burns
Build Test and Deploy Firefox OS Apps – David Burns
Not Providing HTML Page is Bogus – Jim Evans
Seeing Info Messages In the Log – Jim Evans
Finding a Parent Element – Justin Ko
Get the CSS Class Name – Justin Ko
Improving Performance on Tables – Justin Ko
Handling Repeated Blocks of Elements – Justin Ko
Troubleshooting the Unknown Element – Justin Ko
Adding a Watir Reference Section – Justin Ko
Getting a Checkbox by Adjacent Text – Just Ko
Why Write a Book on Watir – Justin Ko
Passing Watir Elements to Execute Script - Justin Ko
Parts to Each Watir Instruction (Explained) - Justin Ko
Directions Analogy for Locator Strategies - Justin Ko
List of Valid Watir Webdriver Locators - Justin Ko
Sauce for the Mac – Sauce Labs
Announcing Sauce Free Unlimited Test Accounts for OSS – Sauce Labs
Getting the Most out of Selenium with Cloudbees and Sauce Labs - Sauce Labs
Announcing Appium on Sauce Native Hybrid IOS – Sauce Labs
Selenium Conference - Selenium
Source Control – Selenium
The Future of Firefox support – let’s discuss - Selenium Groups
Timeline for EOL of Firefox 3.x support - Selenium Groups
Clue – Simon Stewart
Talk to Teddy - Simon Stewart
Help Me Help You - Simon Stewart
Chrome Profiles – Zeljko Filipin
Testing Mediawiki - Zeljko Filipin
Zagreb Meeting - Zeljko Filipin
Zero Day and Trojan Horse - Zeljko Filipin
Finally a Ghost Driver – Ivan De Marino
Travis CI Selenium Testing – Testing Bot

Software & Library Updates

The opening and closing music is Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod (Genre: Pop, Instruments: Guitar, Bass, Kit, ISRC: USUAN1100482, 2008 Kevin MacLeod)

Podcast #53

mcnulla — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:24:38 +0000

Dave McNulla interviews Llewellyn Falco, an Agile expert, Approval Test library creator, and co-developer of Teaching Kids Programming.

The opening and closing music is Artifact by Kevin MacLeod (Genre: African, Instruments: Percussion, Marimba, Kalimba, Guitar, Choir, ISRC: USUAN1100324, 2007 Kevin MacLeod)

Podcast Topics:

0:00 – Music
0:30 – Introduction.
2:40 – Approval Tests
17:13 – Teaching Kids Programming
25:18 – Agile Conferences, Discipline & Pairing, Code Retreats
33:30 – Set Game
36:26 – Exploratory Testing
37:51 – Favorite podcasts?
41:41 – What do you do when you aren’t at your computer?
43:51 – Closing

Links

Podcast 52 Outtake

mcnulla — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:23:36 +0000

Zeljko tells Dave why Recorders are bad for test automation. Recorder articles of the past (there are so many more than this) relating to the outtake:

First Article I read on Test Automation (by James Bach)
Common Problems in Test Automation p. 6 (by Cem Kaner)
Evolution of Automated Tests (by Adam Goucher)
Dragon Chicken (by Zeljko)

Podcast #52

mcnulla — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:22:17 +0000

Dave McNulla and Zeljko Filipin discuss recent articles written about Watir, Watir-Webdriver, testing frameworks, and testing services. Here are the links to the articles:

Extras

Test Stack – Dave McNulla
Launch a Browser from your Mac – Sauce Labs
Unlimited Testing Accounts – Sauce Labs
The Future of Firefox support – David Burns

Releases

Books

Jeff ‘Cheezy’ Morgan – Cucumber and Cheese
Zeljko Filipin – Homebrewer’s Guide to Watir

Blogs

Jeff ‘Cheezy’ Morgan – Agile Toolkit Podcast with Bob Payne
Alister Scott – Are Your IE Webdriver Tests Running Slowly?Alister Scott – Checking An Image is Actually Visible
Jim Evans – Are you kidding me, IE Driver? Another freaking thing to download?
Sauce Labs – Mobile Testing Summit
Justin Ko – WordPress Blog
(several posts)
Zeljko – How to Test with Internet Explorer on a Mac

Misc

The opening and closing music is Dvorak Polka by Kevin MacLeod (Genre: Polka, Instruments: Kit, Tuba, Accordion, ISRC: USUAN1100249, 2006 Kevin MacLeod)

Watir Podcast #51

mcnulla — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 03:14:36 +0000

Dave McNulla and Zeljko Filipin discuss recent articles written about Watir, Watir-Webdriver, testing frameworks, and testing services. Here are the links to the articles:

The webdriver-user-agent gem now supports random user agents – Alister Scott
Watir 4.0 & Watir Classic 3.2 Released- Jarmo Pertman
Update to Webdriver Spec in W3C – Simon Stewert
The Gold Standard – Dave McNulla
Announcing Sauce Support for Windows 8 and IE 10
You’re Doing It Wrong: IE Protected Mode and WebDriver
Ruby 1.9.3-p286 is released
Mobile apps still need automated tests – Alister Scott
chromedriver 23.0.1240.0
IEDriver 2.25.3
Testing – Justin Ko
Catch JavaScript Errors on the Page with Watir or Selenium – Zeljko Filipin

The opening and closing music is Sneaky Snitch by Kevin MacLeod (Genre: Soundtrack,
Instruments: Oboe, Strings, Snare Drum, ISRC: USUAN1100772, 2010 Kevin MacLeod)

Watir Podcast #50

mcnulla — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:14:53 +0000

Dave McNulla spends a few minutes talking to @Chzy (Jeff Morgan) about his new book, his automation test gems, and good practices in test automation. Here are some links:

A special thanks to Jeff Morgan for being on this interview, and doing all that he does.

Opening and closing music is The Cannery by Kevin MacLeod (Genre: Piano, Percussion, A giant rousing mechanized heavy piano and heavy percussion piece, mildly reminiscent of Gershiwn or Scott – in 2 small sections, ISRC: US-UAN-11-00845, 2011 Kevin MacLeod)

Watir Podcast #49

mcnulla — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 05:40:32 +0000

Dave McNulla and Zeljko Filipin discuss recent articles written about Watir, Watir-Webdriver, testing frameworks, and testing services. Here are the links to the articles:

Music

Opening and closing music is Matt’s Blues by Kevin MacLeod (Genre: Blues, Instruments: Guitar, Bass, Kit, Organ, Harmonica, ISRC: US-UAN-11-00165, 2007 Kevin MacLeod)

Watir Podcast #48

mcnulla — Thu, 05 Jul 2012 06:01:49 +0000

Dave McNulla and Zeljko Filipin discuss recent articles written about Watir, Watir-Webdriver, testing frameworks, and testing services. Here are the links to the articles:

Opening and closing music is Fast Talkin by Kevin MacLeod (Genre: Jazz, Instruments: Bass, Kit, Violins, Brass, ISRC: US-UAN-11-00590, 2009 Kevin MacLeod))

#47 Chuck Van der Linden and Dave McNulla at Test Automation Bazaar

mcnulla — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:59:10 +0000

Chuck Van der Linden and Dave McNulla talk briefly about the Test Automation Bazaar, what we liked about the conference, and the highlights.

Show notes: To be added later

Additional Links:

#46 Jarmo Pertman on Watir 2.0

Željko Filipin — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:14:31 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Jarmo Pertman about the recent release of Watir 2.0.

This episode is sponsored by Watir book! If you would like to sponsor an episode, let me know.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Show notes:

1:00 – Introduction.
1:38 – Jarmo’s gems: RAutomation and WatirSplash.
2:44 – Watir 2.0: zero based indexing, firewatir is deprecated, locators for collections, default zero based locators.
9:48 – Future plans: decrease incompatibilities between watir and watir-webdriver gems even further with the help of watirspec gem.
11:12 – Our sites.
12:15 – Jarmo says a few words in Estonian.

#45 Bret Pettichord’s Opening Keynote at Selenium Conference 2011

Željko Filipin — Wed, 18 May 2011 16:19:20 +0000

Bret Pettichord‘s Opening Keynote at Selenium Conference 2011.

This is the first time I have published a podcast that I did not record, but this is one of the best talks I have heard so far and I thought it should be published here.

I would like to thank Michael Larsen for producing the podcast. Show notes are at Michael Larsen’s Podcasts page and Bret’s blog post A Ninja Strike to the Brain. Bret’s blog post also has video version of the talk.

#44 Tim Koopmans on WatirGrid and Gridinit

Željko Filipin — Wed, 04 May 2011 21:01:41 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Tim Koopmans of Altentee about WatirGrid and Gridinit.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

Show notes:

0:30 – Introduction.
1:00 – About Tim.
2:00 – Can Watir be used for load testing?
3:00 – WatirGrid.
5:53 – Gridinit.
7:00 – Supported browsers and Watir gems.
7:42 – Other tools it supports.
11:52 – Competition.
13:07 – Closing thoughts.
14:15 – Links to our sites.

#43 Andreas Tolf Tolfsen on OperaWatir 2/2

Željko Filipin — Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:19:05 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Andreas Tolf Tolfsen about OperaWatir.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Exam in Composition A To by Andreas himself.

Felipe Knorr Kuhn prepared most of the questions for this episode, but got sick just before recording, so we recorded without him.

Show notes:

0:30 – Introduction.
1:25 – On testing at Opera Software.
2:31 – See you at Selenium Conference and viaqa
3:01 – Andreas is involved in other free software/open source projects, like WebC.
5:20 – Why Opera browser has low market share on desktop?
6:20 – A few nice features of Opera browser.
7:30 – The current status of OperaWatir and OperaDriver.
11:28 – Watir is usually used to test web applications, but at Opera Software it is used to test browsers.
12:15 – Watir 2.0 API and WatirSpec.
15:40 – The future of OperaWatir and OperaDriver.
17:57 – OperaWatir is licensed under BSD license.
18:28 – OperaWatir community: web site, operawatir-users mailing list, rubygems.org/gems/operawatir.
22:05 – A few words about beer and music.
24:24 – What does Andreas do when he is not near a computer?
25:39 – Closing thoughts: “I am so surprised that the web actually works. And it works surprisingly well.”
27:40 – Our sites.

#42 Andreas Tolf Tolfsen on OperaWatir 1/2

Željko Filipin — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:37:18 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Andreas Tolf Tolfsen about OperaWatir.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Exam in Composition A To by Andreas himself.

Felipe Knorr Kuhn prepared most of the questions for this episode, but got sick just before recording, so we recorded without him.

Show notes:

0:30 – Introduction.
1:47 – About Željko.
2:15 – About Andreas.
2:35 – OperaWatir was announced way back in 2009 and released before Christmas 2010.
4:40 – How long is Andreas at Opera Software?
5:35 – Andreas studied music and musicology.
6:40 – What does Andreas do at Opera Software?
8:35 – About browsers and other software that Opera Software produces.
13:55 – Testing at Opera Software.
18:37 – Is valid HTML exception in the wild?
19:10 – Andreas: “I can say from experience that 99,8% of all web pages out there are not valid according to HTML 4 spec.”
20:27 – Is Andreas involved with Opera Mobile?
21:12 – Our sites.

#41 Dave McNulla 2/2

Željko Filipin — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:22:44 +0000

Felipe Knorr Kuhn and Željko Filipin talk with Dave McNulla.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

Show notes:

0:40 – Introduction.
1:07 – Which OS does he prefer?
4:16 – Is there anything in Watir he would like to be improved or changed?
5:23 – Did he use any other tool for testing web applications?
6:17 – Does he have his own framework for running Watir tests?
6:40 – Fixtures for Watir.
8:17 – Felipe does not like DSLs.
10:02 – What language is the web application written in?
11:26 – What does he do when he is not at a computer? Missions, Spurs…
12:02 – Does he listen to podcasts?
12:49 – Closing thoughts.
13:39 – It would be nice if people asking for Watir support treat it like a bug report.
14:45 – He does not have the time to maintain a blog, but he is @dmcnulla on Twitter.
17:02 – He is not even close to our record in the number of kids (and Felipe and I are even further away).
18:20 – Closing.
18:58 – A few words about conferences.
19:55 – A few words in Portuguese and Croatian.

#40 Dave McNulla 1/2

Željko Filipin — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:14:08 +0000

Felipe Knorr Kuhn and Željko Filipin talk with Dave McNulla.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

Show notes:

0:40 – Introduction.
1:30 – About Dave.
3:10 – How did he get into computers?
5:00 – How did he get into automation, Ruby and Watir?
6:50 – Did he use other programming languages?
7:30 – Does he like Ruby? Would he change anything in Ruby or Watir?
8:40 – Does he like Ruby more or less than other languages?
10:10 – Is there anything specific he likes about testing?
11:40 – “Being the worst” from The Passionate Programmer.
12:50 – A few words about the application he is testing (HP Service Manager).
15:10 – Do they test software that is not web application?
16:35 – If the desktop application development stared now, would it cost a lot to make it testable?
18:20 – Did he face any problems with testing web application? (Pop-ups get mentioned. Surprised?)
20:05 – Do they test only on Windows?
20:25 – His contribution to Watir community.
21:50 – Size of development and test teams at his company.
22:45 – How many people use Watir in his team?
23:10 – Favorite IDE/editor?
24:20- IRB.
25:05 – Closing.

#39 Jeff Lusenhop on Janova 3/3

Željko Filipin — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:54:09 +0000

Charley Baker and Željko Filipin talk with Jeff Lusenhop on Janova (part 3 of 3).

Thanks to Jarmo Pertman, Ethan and Felipe Knorr Kuhn for questions.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Show notes:

1:00 – Series introduction.
1:18 – Episode introduction.
1:30 – Felipe asks: Is there a way to reuse page elements?
6:17 – Felipe asks about available browsers.
8:03 – Prices.
10:05 – Why did the choose Watir and not some other tool? A word or two about recorders.
12:00 – How many users do they have?
12:17 – Where do Charley and Jeff live?
13:42 – Which OS do they use?
16:32 – Favorite IDE/editor.
17:34 – Jeff’s hobbies.
18:18 – Podcasts he listens to.
18:40 – Closing thoughts.
20:26 – Janova free trial.

#38 Jeff Lusenhop on Janova 2/3

Željko Filipin — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:46:08 +0000

Charley Baker and Željko Filipin talk with Jeff Lusenhop on Janova (part 2 of 3).

Thanks to Jarmo Pertman, Ethan and Felipe Knorr Kuhn for questions.

The music in the show is Female Advantages by Paper Lions. Chris McMahon played bass in Paper Lions in early Eighties.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Show notes:

1:00 – Series introduction.
1:18 – Episode introduction.
1:30 – Importing existing Watir tests.
2:19 – What is the roadmap for Janova? Security, reporting, internationalization…
5:62 – Janova’s building blocks. Ruby, Watir, Ruby on Rails, Heroku, RabbitMQ, Amazon EC2…
9:21 – How a test is created? Application, environment, feature, scenario, step, queue, batch…
15:22 – What is Janova’s relationship with open source communities?
17:49 – Questions from the listeners: Jarmo Pertman, Felipe Knorr Khun and Ethan.
18:03 – Are there plans for installing Janova behind the company firewall?

#37 Jeff Lusenhop on Janova 1/3

Željko Filipin — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 10:18:15 +0000

Charley Baker and Željko Filipin talk with Jeff Lusenhop on Janova (part 1 of 3).

Thanks to Jarmo Pertman, Ethan and Felipe Knorr Kuhn for questions.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

Show notes:

1:00 – Introductions.
4:55 – What does Janova mean?
5:20 – What does Janova do?
6:07- No coding is necessary?
10:29 – How long does Jeff use Watir?
12:14 – When did they start to develop Janova?
14:00 – Target audience.
16:00 – Could tests be exported?
17:02 – Links: @janovasoftware

#36 Jarmo Pertman

Željko Filipin — Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:37:45 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Jarmo Pertman.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

A big thank you to Tiffany Fodor for editing the audio and for show notes.

Show notes:

1:00 – Introductions
4:50 – Jarmo’s introduction to Watir
7:15 – Jarmo’s background
10:08 – Jarmo’s blog IT Really Matters
10:50 – Blog highlights – Watir/RSpec
13:08 – Most popular blog post – Debugging Watir’s click_no_wait method problems
14:37 – Jarmo’s thesis – Web Applications’ User Interface Based Testing Automation
16:20 – Watir frameworks
18:10 – Ideas for future development and functionality in Watir – popups, screen shots
23:08 – Other test automation tools
23:40 – Watir versus Selenium
27:50 – watir-webdriver
31:12 – WatirSplash framework
36:05 – Current Watir development activity
38:15 – Jarmo’s other interests
39:02 – Closing thoughts
39:57 – Watir Stack Exchange site
40:58 – Jarmo’s contact information
41:40 – Zeljko’s contact information
42:17 – Closing

#35 Željko Filipin on Watir Stack Exchange Site

Željko Filipin — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:19:57 +0000

Felipe Knorr Kuhn and Željko Filipin talk about Watir Stack Exchange Site.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

A big thank you to Tiffany Fodor for editing the audio and for show notes.

Show notes:

0:15 – Introduction
2:15 – Watir News
- 2:15 – Watir Podcast Team
- 3:50 – Watir Stack Overflow ad
- 5:00 – Watir Podcast is 2 years old!
- 5:20 – Chrome Watir support has been removed from Watir
- 5:55 – Watir-Webdriver
- 7:15 – Zeljko’s blog post on Webdriver installation
- 7:35 – Google Pacman Watir script
8:45 – Stack Exchange Site
10:50 – History – Stack Overflow
12:50 – Creating Stack Exchange site for Watir
13:25 – How Stack Exchange works
15:45 – Achievements, badges and reputation
17:50 – Stack Exchange versus Google Groups
18:45 – Similar questions are displayed
21:10 – Voting on questions and answers
24:05 – Tags
24:35 – Stack Exchange questions and answers as documentation
27:15 – RSS feeds
29:05 – Site acceptance
34:35 – Stack Exchange Watir site focus
41:45 – Help us create the Watir Stack Exchange community!
43:25 – Replacing Watir Stack Overflow and Google Group sites with Stack Exchange
46:45 – Marking questions as duplicates/related
51:20 – Next phases – Commit and Beta
52:55 – Ask and reply to your own questions
54:55 – Formatting
56:30 – Closing

#34 Zhimin Zhan on TestWise

Željko Filipin — Thu, 27 May 2010 21:22:05 +0000

Alister Scott and Željko Filipin talk with Zhimin Zhan about TestWise.

It is a big day for Watir Podcast. Today it is 2 years old!

The music in the show is Sweet Legacy by Antiqcool.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

A big thank you to Tiffany Fodor for editing the audio and for show notes.

Show notes:

1:00 – Introduction
2:00 – TestWise history
5:09 – TestWise recorder
7:11 – TestWise Licensing
8:02 – Other AgileWay products
10:22 – TestWise syntax
11:53 – Number of TestWise users
12:52 – More recorder discussion
13:42 – TestWise future support (watir-webdriver)
14:29 – Popups
17:09 – More recorder discussion
18:39 – LoadWise
20:43 – TestWise roadmap
21:21 – TestWise IDE
23:12 – More about Zhimin
24:30 – Zhimin’s closing thoughts
25:34 – Contact info
26:57 – Closing

#33 Jake Dempsey and Brian Knorr on Watij and UISpec

Željko Filipin — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:49:49 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Jake Dempsey and Brian Knorr on Watij.

The music in the show is Love Lies by Paper Lions. Chris McMahon played bass in Paper Lions in early Eighties.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

A big thank you to Tiffany Fodor for editing the audio and for show notes.

Show notes:

0:00 – Welcome and Introductions
1:35 – Watij History
3:50 – TeamDev commercial Java COM bridge
6:50 – Future of Watij and the Watij community
8:07 – Plans for cross-browser support using JxBrowser: Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, possibly Chrome
10:20 – WebDriver vs JxBrowser
13:05 – More about the Watij community
17:40 – BeanShell
18:20 – Ruby DSL and JRuby
19:53 – Answer to Karim Rayani’s question posted at watir-general
20:55 – More about JxBrowser and cross-browser support
24:10 – More about WebDriver with Watir and Selenium
27:57 – WatiN
28:50 – Watij acceptance in the test community
29:48 – Watij licensing
31:55 – Recorders
34:55 – Automated test development
37:10 – More about recorders
39:56 – More about test development
40:50 – Automated tests and Watij documentation
44:32 – Porting tests
48:09 – UISpec for iPhone
54:05 – UI Bug
55:50 – More about UISpec
58:03 – Other automation projects
1:00:20 – TripCase
1:00:41 – Starter Step website and blog
1:01:25 – Other Interests
1:04:55 – Twitter, Facebook, etc.
1:08:37 – Closing statements

#32 Brent Strange

Željko Filipin — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:35:26 +0000

Gregg Yows and Željko Filipin talk with Brent Strange on his blog post Testing in 2009, a Year in Review.

We are proud to be a part of Testing Podcast family. You can find audio podcasts on software testing there. All of them.

A big thank you to Tiffany Fodor for editing the audio, and to Alan Baird for show notes.

Show Notes:

0:28 – News:
- Watir Podcast is a member of Testing Podcast
- Jarmo Pertman’s blog IT Really Matters added to Watir Blogs page
- Watir Wiki has been updated, please give us your feedback
- Jari Bakken just released pre-release of Watir-Webdriver (install instructions at Watir on WebDriver)
- Donate to Watir!
- Brent Strange – how strange is that
3:43 – Brent introduction (works for GoDaddy)
4:21 – Strange Beer
5:14 – How Brent Uses Watir
9:02 – Training folks on Watir
11:08 – test navigate and execute
11:52 – Explain this pattern: using Test::Unit, there aren’t any assertions in test and navigate
14:53 – What tools do you use? (team foundation server, SciTE, .net windows)
16:16 – Watir v Selenium (or Why Watir?) – cost, support for multiple browsers, community support, ruby easy to learn. Worry about Selenium in a frame (not really an issue).
18:48 – Record and playback helpers – lack of record and playback on ruby, it’s not the way to go
20:21 – Selenium community support as good as watir
20:42 – SWEA – established relationship w/ developer
21:16 – what’s with you’re url? (www.1qainsight:8080) – he’s cheap
22:58 – QA Engineer vs Software Tester – is there a difference? (going through the backdoor with agile)
27:00 – The Software Testing Club Magazine – No 1 –
Do Loop Until 0 comics
29:00 – Roo/Rasta – just using it for reading spreadsheets, but they are moving away from it
31:38 – What do you do when you aren’t at a computer – website dev for charity, gym, hunt (deer and elk), sports, church (Arizona)
33:22 – Favorite Podcasts? – James Bach, church sermons
34:44 – Closing thoughts – keep up the good work
35:46 – qainsight.net
36:00 – twitter? who uses that?
36:28 – Do Loop Until 0, we can forget about that
37:18 – oh yeah…we forgot to introduce ourselves
37:28 – Hi, I’m Greg Yows
38:42 – Hi, I’m Zeljko
40:18 – licensing

#31 Jari Bakken and Simon Stewart on Watir 2.0, Selenium and WebDriver, Celerity and HtmlUnit

Željko Filipin — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:47:16 +0000

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#30 Jim Knowlton on Using Watir for Exploratory Testing

Željko Filipin — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:22:56 +0000

Gregg Yows and Željko Filipin talk with Jim Knowlton.

0:00 – Music.
1:00 – Introduction.
4:11 – Testing security applications with Ruby and Watir.
5:32 – Using IRB and Watir to assist exploratory testing of web applications.
6:40 – What is exploratory testing?
9:49 – Using IRB and Watir in exploratory testing session to check if HTML code of the page has comments and what is in them.
11:17 – Is there browser.comments method in Watir?
11:54 – The difference between ad hoc and exploratory testing.
14:42 – What percentage of exploratory vs. manual vs. automated is Jim doing?
15:41 – Are they doing Agile development?
16:52 – How are they delivering scripts to testers?
19:04 – What tool do they use for version control?
20:18 – Has the management been receptive to exploratory testing?
22:13 – The presentation on web security testing with Ruby and Watir.
25:59 – A big thank you to Adam Goucher for suggesting Jim for the podcast.
26:11 – How are they managing note taking in exploratory sessions?
28:33 – An example of security testing with Watir.
31:35 – What does Jim do when he is not near a computer and stuff like that.
33:45 – Where people can find us on the tubes?
35:20 – You can donate to Watir at watir.com.
36:27 – Music.

Music in the podcast is Diggin Out by Chad Fowler.

#29 Bret Pettichord and Charley Baker on Past, Present and Future of Watir

Željko Filipin — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:15:42 +0000

Bret Pettichord (Watir Lead Developer), Charley Baker (Watir Lead Developer) and Željko Filipin (Watir Community Manager) talk about the past, the present and the future of Watir.

0:00 – music
1:00 – introduction
2:11 – Bret on what is new in Watir 1.6.5
2:54 – downloads
- gemcutter.org/gems/watir
- gemcutter.org/gems/firewatir
- gemcutter.org/gems/commonwatir
- rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=104
5:15 – in the year since the last release of Watir (1.6.2) more people contributed to 1.6.5 than ever before, thanks to GitHub
7:40 – all Watir drivers now at watir.com
9:29 – Charley on releasing Watir 1.6.5
12:47 – move more gems in Watir, or separate all gems?
17:00 – Watir 2.0
20:50 – WatirSpec, results + todo (793 examples, 59 failures)
22:29 – Celerity
24:16 – FFI extension for Ruby
30:10 – WatiN, Watij
32:31 – Bret: “Watin is in the wrong language.”
36:16 – Bret: “Selenium … does not use any special facilities from any language that it works in, and therefore it is kinda clumsy in most of them.”
36:54 – summary of Watir 1.6.5
38:53 – AWTA 2010
39:50 – Watir 1.7 (pop ups, cookies)
46:08 – API changes in Watir 2.0 (hashes, 0-based indexing)
49:18 – early days of Watir
54:15 – closing
55:19 – you can donate to Watir at watir.com
55:37 – our sites
56:48 – music

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Easy to Love by Chris McMahon.

#28 Tom Copeland on SafariWatir

Željko Filipin — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:00:31 +0000

Charley Baker and Željko Filipin talk with Tom Copeland (programmer for InfoEther, lead developer of SafariWatir, system administrator of RubyForge.org) about SafariWatir, watirspec, RubyForge.org, Gemcutter, GitHub, other podcasts Tom recorded, how to raise 7 kids…

While we were recording the podcast Tom released SafariWatir 0.3.7. While he is typing, you can hear Oh So Fabulous song in the background.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is All My Little Words. Both songs are by Chad Fowler.

#27 Angrez Singh on FireWatir

Željko Filipin — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:11:34 +0000

Željko Filipin and Sai Venkatakrishnan talk with Angrez Singh about FireWatir, Watir and their merge, replacing JSSH with Firedriver, XPath, Firewatir-Gen, Google Summer of Code, Bangalore Watir user group, WatiN, Indian music…

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Shankar Shakedown by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

In this episode we feature Hemal Kuntawala and uSwitch.

#26 Alister Scott on Watir.com

Željko Filipin — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:07:58 +0000

Gregg Yows and Željko Filipin talk with Alister Scott about Watir.com.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is 30 Years by Gregg Yows.

In this episode we feature Orde Hiller and Zazzle.

#25 Dave Hoover on SafariWatir and Software Craftsmanship

Željko Filipin — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:48:59 +0000

Željko Filipin and Gregg Yows talk with Dave Hoover about Safari Watir and software craftsmanship. Dave explains what Redsquirrel means and The Boutique Tester blog post by Matthew Heusser is mentioned.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Redsquirrel Theme Song by Colin Harris.

#24 MarekJ and Charley Baker

Željko Filipin — Wed, 27 May 2009 07:00:34 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with MarekJ and Charley Baker about the first year of Watir Podcast, Watirloo and Taza.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Facade by George Sanders from Portland, Oregon.

#23 Željko Filipin

Željko Filipin — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:27:31 +0000

Tiffany Fodor (member of Watir Podcast team) talks with Željko Filipin (Watir core team member, host of Watir Podcast).

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is the world premiere of 23 by Željko Filipin.

#22 Bret Pettichord on WatirCraft

Željko Filipin — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:04:11 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Bret Pettichord (CTO, WatirCraft LLC; Lead Developer, Watir) about WatirCraft, a testing framework that builds on Watir.

Thanks to Chuck van der Linden for a lot of questions for this podcast.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is the world premiere of G Blues Train Intro by my brother Marko Filipin.

#21 Alister Scott on Watif

Željko Filipin — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:40:56 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Alister Scott about Watif, Web Application Testing in FORTRAN.

#20 Sai Venkatakrishnan

Željko Filipin — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:05:38 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Sai Venkatakrishnan.

Sai’s Sites:

Sai’s Projects:

#19 Bret Pettichord on Git

Željko Filipin — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:20:20 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Bret Pettichord (CTO, WatirCraft LLC; Lead Developer, Watir) on moving Watir code to Git and Github.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Make You Mine by Gregg Yows.

#18 Rick Hower on AWTA 2009

Željko Filipin — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:46:14 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Sunday

Željko Filipin talks with Rick Hower about AWTA 2009.

#17 Deniz Türkoglu on AWTA 2009

Željko Filipin — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:54:42 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Sunday

Željko Filipin talks with Deniz Türkoglu of Opera Software about AWTA 2009 and OperaWatir.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Cosmic Cowboy by Gregg Yows.

#16 MarekJ on AWTA 2009

Željko Filipin — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:25:49 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Sunday

Željko Filipin talks with MarekJ about AWTA 2009.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Free Ride Home by Gregg Yows.

#15 Lisa Crispin and Janet Gregory on AWTA 2009 and Agile Testing

Željko Filipin — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:52:36 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Sunday

Željko Filipin talks with Lisa Crispin and Janet Gregory about AWTA 2009 and Agile Testing.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Tehran by Gregg Yows.

#14 Steve Kim on AWTA 2009

Željko Filipin — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:27:13 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Saturday

Željko Filipin talks with Steve Kim about AWTA 2009.

#13 Alister Scott on AWTA 2009

Željko Filipin — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:24:51 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Saturday

Željko Filipin talks with Alister Scott about AWTA 2009.

#12 Bernie Miles and Stanislaw Wozniak on AWTA 2009 and Sponte

Željko Filipin — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:00:41 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Saturday

Željko Filipin talks with Bernie Miles and Stanislaw Wozniak about AWTA 2009 and Sponte Framework.

#11 Alan Baird on AWTA 2009

Željko Filipin — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:21:24 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Friday

Željko Filipin talks with Alan Baird about AWTA 2009.

#10 Charley Baker on AWTA 2009

Željko Filipin — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:41:00 +0000

From AWTA 2009 Friday

Željko Filipin talks with Charley Baker about AWTA 2009.

#9 Paul Rogers

Alan Baird — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:52:44 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Paul Rogers, one of the co-creators of Watir, about Watir. Paul currently writes some interesting tests for tynt, a company that makes web editing software.

#8 Alister Scott

Alan Baird — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:02:48 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Alister Scott about his experiences in test automation and using Watir to automate tons of tests. Alister also talks about his new position as Watir Wiki Master and how the Watir community can continue to improve this resource.

Music at the beginning and the end of the podcast is Bach – Goldberg Variation No. 10 performed by Pistos, a regular at the Watir IRC channel #watir on Freenode.

#7 Bret Pettichord on FireWatir

Željko Filipin — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:31:18 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Bret Pettichord (CTO, WatirCraft LLC; Lead Developer, Watir) about merging Watir and FireWatir.

Music at the beginning and the end is Hear that guitar ring from James Rogers Blues Band, selected by Željko.

#6 Tiffany Fodor

Željko Filipin — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:42:41 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Tiffany Fodor.

Music at the beginning and the end is Get Outta Town from The Outta Controllers, selected by Tiffany Fodor.

#5 Walter Kruse

Željko Filipin — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:47:42 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Walter Kruse.

Music at the beginning and the end is the first part (8 bars) of the 4/4 march called The Old Boy, composed by Niel Dickie and performed by Walter Kruse.

#4 Jeroen van Menen on WatiN

Željko Filipin — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:39:15 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Jeroen van Menen, WatiN (Web Application Testing In .Net) Lead Developer.

Take a look at WatiN Test Recorder created by Daaron Dwyer.

Music at the beginning and the end is Bodhgaya from The Nightfall Project, selected by Jeroen van Menen.

#3 MarekJ

Željko Filipin — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:01:45 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with MarekJ.

Music at the beginning and the end is Asleep at the Wheel from Waking Rothko, selected by Pete Dignan.

Rimshot sound is from instantrimshot.com.

#2 Charley Baker

Željko Filipin — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:44:43 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Charley Baker, QA Architect at Gap Inc Direct and Watir Project Manager.

#1 Bret Pettichord on Watir

Željko Filipin — Tue, 27 May 2008 19:04:04 +0000

Željko Filipin talks with Bret Pettichord (CTO, WatirCraft LLC; Lead Developer, Watir) about Watir and what it does and doesn’t do well. Bret describes how people are building frameworks with Watir and the reasons why Watir was created in the first place. Also included are his thoughts on recorders and open-source and his new company, WatirCraft.

Note: When Bret talks about ssh, he is thinking about ssl.