Yahoo! Discussion Forum - WebProWorld http://www.webproworld.com/ Yahoo! discussion forum at WebProWorld forums. en Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:45:27 GMT vBulletin 60 http://webproworld.com/viewforum.php?f=48http://images.ientrymail.com/webproworld/WebProWorld_106.gifYahoo! Discussion Forum - WebProWorld http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/ The Yahoo Incompetence http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webproworld/bfoy/~3/kKnuteqm_Ds/93955-yahoo-incompetence.html Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:21:44 GMT It is clear to me now, after having been a member of Yahoo for 11 years, that this company is at it's very core utterly incompetent. It must have an incompetent board of executives, incompetent programmers, incompetent community managers, incompetent developers etc etc.

During the 11 years of my Yahoo membership, I have witnessed how each decision made to "improve" the service, have all ended up making everything worse.

From the 2005 wipeout of user-generated chatrooms, to the shere mind-boggling amateurism and uselessness of the 2009 "new and improved profiles", Yahoo has not made a single good move in atleast 4 years.

The chatrooms, which originally was one of the main attractions that brought a userbase to Yahoo, are now so rampant and infested with automated spam "bots", that they are all but unusable to serious chatters. This is a shame, because there are no real alternatives to Yahoo Chat out there. And Chat is an important and delightfully different way of communication with people from all over the world, in a time where everything is drowning in self-promoting 15 minutes of fame type social sites, like Twitter and Facebook.

Yahoo has decided it also wants to be a social site. And this they have gone about with all the enthusiasm and vigor of the incompetent. The result of which are the "new and improved" Yahoo profiles, where all the information you have written about yourself has been crammed into a 3 inches wide column on the right side of the screen, your blog entries reduced to links and the rest of the page dedicated to "updates".
Which means that all the information that matters is unreadable, and everything that has to do with "abbey connected to melissa_daniels" and "abbey updated her latest news", gets the front and center and 90% of all the page space. Why? Personally I have turned off the updates section on my profile, which in return means that my profile is essentially one big blank page.

You may ask if I can't just move the modules around, but no! In their enginuity, Yahoo has managed to make maybe the least userfriendly profile on the internet. Modules can't be moved around, you can't customize even a single pixel, and most Yahoo users - far the most - can't even get beyond figuring out how to make the profile public, which is like figuring out how to write the guiding system on a NASA Mars probe. Worse actually, because it doesn't actually work at all. No matter what you do, no matter how much you use the informationless HELP - where the FAQ's include all the questions you don't need to ask and not the ones that you do, like "why can't anyone see my profile, eventhough I have done every single thing your tutorial tells me to do?" - no matter how much you try and try again, you will always lose on Yahoo, because Yahoo is, quite frankly, crap.

And it could be so good! If they only listened to their users. Which they did for a short, strange while, on their Yahoo Profiles Blog and Yahoo Messenger Blog.
However, this is over now. On the Yahoo Profiles Blog, they simply decided to silence all criticism (of which there was bountiful plenty), by TAKING THE COMMENTS OFFLINE! I kid you not! It's not like they shut down the comments section. No, it's still there. You can go in, read the blog post advertizing how amazing their "new and improved" profiles are, and observe that each blog written by some Yahoo minion, has a number of comments. But if you click the comments link, you get "Sorry, the page you requested was not found". On all blog comments on all blog entires, dating back to the first one. Thousands and thousands of user criticism, wiped out in one glorious stroke.

Even worse is possibly the Yahoo Messenger Blog, where the almighty Sarah Bacon, Product Manager, actively deletes critical comments. You can try this yourself. Go to the blog, write what you think Yahoo has done wrong and what you think it should do right, and watch how your comment magically disappears over night. Write anything remotely critical, and you will be censored.

This is a really dangerous path to take for any web based company. They will end up completely alienating the remaining userbase, like yours truly, and turning themselves into the evil villains in this issue. The end result could result in the last and final exodus of active users on Yahoo (they lost about 85% of active chatters in 2005, when they wiped user generated chatrooms from the service, and more have left since, due to the "improvements" and lack thereof in the years since).

I have watched now, for 11 years, a company walking down the path of implosion and self destruction, at a faster and faster pace. In all fairness, it is quite a feat that they have not gone bankrupt yet. They know how to get the sponsors I assume. They know how to get advertisements. But they sure as all heck, have no clue how to maintain a decent service or how to nurture a userbase. And what is a company without clients? What is Yahoo without active users? Without the communities that once made Yahoo a living and vibrant place to visit and spend time?

What is Yahoo now, after the last 4 years of incompetent decisions? It is nothing but a glorified billboard. It has no purpose. The chatrooms are dead and silent. It's like a post apocalyptic wasteland, where all life is gone and all that remains are the machines (the spam bots) still grinding away for no one.
]]> Yahoo! Discussion Forum Abbey http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/93955-yahoo-incompetence.html http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/93955-yahoo-incompetence.html how do i create a username in yahoo mess. http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webproworld/bfoy/~3/ERdRGp0pqzM/93525-how-do-i-create-username-yahoo-mess.html Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:23:36 GMT I see a sign in name when I first open yahoo messenger...is that going to be my username to view other cam's and chat? Or is there another area? I couldn't find one and i gave that sign in name to whom i wanted to 'visit' and they said they need a username.
]]> Yahoo! Discussion Forum Korevette http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/93525-how-do-i-create-username-yahoo-mess.html http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/93525-how-do-i-create-username-yahoo-mess.html <![CDATA[can't sign in in yahoo messanger]]> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webproworld/bfoy/~3/s6k4OV8G2ac/93331-cant-sign-yahoo-messanger.html Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:36:22 GMT Hi, I install a yahoo messanger 9.0 but the installation was not complete. it said the it was interrupted. please help Hi,
I install a yahoo messanger 9.0 but the installation was not complete. it said the it was interrupted. please help
]]> Yahoo! Discussion Forum kirsky http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/93331-cant-sign-yahoo-messanger.html http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/93331-cant-sign-yahoo-messanger.html first page on google but in yahoo :( http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webproworld/bfoy/~3/KbMNqaEz8z0/93031-first-page-google-but-yahoo.html Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:33:37 GMT my site is on first page of google with the key word "best time management" and on the 2nd page of bing but in yahoo i can't find it with in first 15 pages :(

what can be the reason??
]]> Yahoo! Discussion Forum rizwan007 http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/93031-first-page-google-but-yahoo.html http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/93031-first-page-google-but-yahoo.html Did Yahoo Lie? Apparently Yahoo Still Supports the Meta Keyword Tag http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webproworld/bfoy/~3/wQ7-zKztlGM/92651-did-yahoo-lie-apparently-yahoo-still-supports-meta-keyword-tag.html Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:46:55 GMT So the writer at SearchEngineLand.com wrote a previous article telling us that Yahoo quietly dropped support for the meta keyword tag but he did a... So the writer at SearchEngineLand.com wrote a previous article telling us that Yahoo quietly dropped support for the meta keyword tag but he did a test: he placed the following text into the keyword meta tag of the home page for searchengineland.com - xcvteuflsowkldlslkslklsk - he did a search for that string on yahoo and found no results, but he searched the string again on yahoo, yesterday and his site came up #1. I just did the same search and indeed, searchengineland did come up on ca.search.yahoo.com.

I just did the same search on google.ca and nothing came up and again on google.com and nothing came up other than the post he wrote which can be viewed here:

searchengineland.com/sorry-yahoo-you-do-index-the-meta-keywords-tag-27743

:shock:
]]> Yahoo! Discussion Forum morestar http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/92651-did-yahoo-lie-apparently-yahoo-still-supports-meta-keyword-tag.html http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/92651-did-yahoo-lie-apparently-yahoo-still-supports-meta-keyword-tag.html Yahoo Class Action ? http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webproworld/bfoy/~3/CDkkpkClkxQ/92520-yahoo-class-action.html Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:16:45 GMT I received an email that said that I was a member of a class action against Yahoo. Basically if you went out of business that you could apply to get... I received an email that said that I was a member of a class action against Yahoo. Basically if you went out of business that you could apply to get a $20 refund and otherwise gave you nothing, but makes Yahoo put some extra features on their PPC engine. I put the whole letter on my blog if you want to read it.Yahoo Class Action it said anyone that advertised using PPC from 2000 to Sept 2009 was a part of the class action.

Seems like they could have done a little more for the poor guys that didn't go out of business, I am interested to hear what you think before I decide weather to opt out or not.
]]> Yahoo! Discussion Forum Chuckmiser http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/92520-yahoo-class-action.html http://www.webproworld.com/yahoo-discussion-forum/92520-yahoo-class-action.html