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<p>Kelly sits down with Jake Braun, who has worked at the intersection of politics, national security, and foreign policy for over two decades and was appointed to prominent roles in the Obama and Biden administrations. He wrote the book &#8220;Democracy in Danger,&#8221; and he has a new book, &#8220;Fentanyl: Fighting the Mass Poisoning of America and the Cartel Behind It.&#8221;</p>


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<p>Kelly talks to Jenny Raymond from the Harnish Foundation and Julie Dumais Osborne from The Second City Training Center to talk about a new partnership that offers free improv-based leadership training for girls in grades 3 through 8 in Chicago called Funny Girls. The best part: IT&#8217;S FREE! For more information or to sign up your school, go here:&nbsp;<a href="https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehf.org%2Ffunny-girls%2Fsecondcity%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7Cifierro%40wgnradio.com%7Cac1d46e4c99e428b905d08de73e41be3%7C9e5488e2e83844f6886cc7608242767e%7C0%7C0%7C639075620729248938%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=zMrcTb2S7fRdSq0VrO4IrM3ZWjQUi%2BTTxkEB%2Bzb4%2FzE%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://thehf.org/funny-girls/secondcity/</a></p>


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<p>&#8220;Improv is a warm hug for girls.&#8221;</p>



<p>&nbsp;&#8220;Improv teaches girls that there’s no right or wrong, fostering a sense of confidence and belonging.&#8221;</p>



<p>&nbsp; &#8220;By using improv, we’re helping girls discover their voices and build the confidence they need to lead.&#8221;</p>


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<p>Kelly talks to Harvard professor Leslie John, whose research into self-disclosure provides a rich source of insights into how we can better build relationships, foster connection, and lead a more purposeful life when we are willing to be vulnerable and share details of our lives with others.</p>


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<p>“If in doubt, transparency is the safer bet.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Today, the illusion of reciprocity&nbsp;thrives&nbsp;on social media.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Like most hangovers, the pain of TMI is often short-lived.”</p>


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<p>“We like different people for&nbsp;different reasons, which just adds to the chaos of it all.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Learning your place in the dating pool can be a brutal process.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“No one enjoys being stuck in the friendzone.”&nbsp;</p>


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											<description><![CDATA[Journalist Kate Murphy has a compelling conversation with Kelly about her new book “Why We Click: The Emerging Science of Interpersonal Synchrony.” In this conversation, Kelly and Kate find a direct line between improvisational training and the kind of synchrony that leads to better relationships, more effective teams and the superpowers that flow from human [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>“Synchrony between humans is nothing short of a superpower.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Our interactions with people are what make us most happy and most miserable in life.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“We are born to&nbsp;sync. We yearn to&nbsp;sync.&nbsp;And we suffer when we do not.”&nbsp;</p>
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											<description><![CDATA[In this conversation, Kelly welcomes best-selling author Daniel Coyle back to the podcast. His new book, &#8220;Flourish: The Art of Building Meaning, Joy and Fulfillment,&#8221; emphasizes the significance of meaningful moments in life, particularly in fostering relationships and collaboration. He discusses how these moments often occur during ritual-like pauses where individuals reflect on their purpose [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>In this conversation, Kelly welcomes best-selling author Daniel Coyle back to the podcast. His new book, &#8220;Flourish: The Art of Building Meaning, Joy and Fulfillment,&#8221; emphasizes the significance of meaningful moments in life, particularly in fostering relationships and collaboration. He discusses how these moments often occur during ritual-like pauses where individuals reflect on their purpose and connection to something greater. This reflection allows for deeper engagement and collaboration among individuals, ultimately leading to more meaningful relationships.</p>


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<p>“The type of attention we bring to the world changes the world we find.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“If you&nbsp;can’t&nbsp;say no, your yes is worthless.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“People mistakenly think life is a treasure hunt. And it is not a treasure hunt.&nbsp;It’s&nbsp;more like a treasure creation.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“We learn who we are by telling stories.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Stepping up to the plate when you aren’t ready is the price of starting.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Our blind spots are dangerous precisely because we can’t see them.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Uncertainty has so much to teach us.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Our brain is uncomfortable in the in-betweens.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“All it&nbsp;takes&nbsp;is the courage to be curious.”</p>


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<p>“Practice is an essential element of mastery learning.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Time is a poor proxy for learning.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>“Be passionate in agreement. Be dispassionate in disagreement.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>“Every time you sit down and write a screenplay, you’re world-building.”&nbsp;</p>
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											<description><![CDATA[Kelly talks to Creative Director of Character Design at Sesame Workshop, Louis Henry Mitchell who has written the book: “Qreative Evolution: The Intimate Practice of Creative Fulfillment Through Guided Self-Education.”&#160; &#160;“Creativity is not limited to one type of creation.”&#160; “You don’t decide your purpose in life; you discover it.”&#160; “Confidence can be lost if it [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>&nbsp;“Creativity is not limited to one type of creation.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“You don’t decide your purpose in life; you discover it.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Confidence can be lost if it isn’t fed through practice.”&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;“Courage is a learned behavior, not an innate one.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Heroes seldom act alone.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Sometimes, frankly, we take confidence too far.”&nbsp;</p>


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											<description><![CDATA[Kelly connects with longtime film critic Nick Digilio to talk about his new book &#8220;40 Years, 40 Films.&#8221; They discuss growing up in Chicago, falling in love with movies, and Nick&#8217;s start at WGN Radio on the Roy Leonard Show. Then they dig into some of Nick&#8217;s favorite movies, such as Albert Brooks&#8217; &#8220;Lost in [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>&#8220;My parents didn&#8217;t really enforce rules when it came to media consumption.&#8221;</p>



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<p>&#8220;My love wasn&#8217;t limited to horror. I adored comedies, too.&#8221;</p>


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<p>“To me, the Holiday Train is more than a seasonal spectacle; it’s&nbsp;a train of light.&#8221;</p>



<p>“I’ve felt the collective joy of strangers momentarily united by a shared sense of awe.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“In the end, the train doesn’t just bring light to the city, it makes winter feel a little less harsh.”</p>


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											<description><![CDATA[In this conversation, Kelly Leonard interviews Bastion Bergmann, co-founder and COO of Solston, about the significance of play in human experience and its implications for business strategy, particularly in gaming. They discuss how gaming can serve as a powerful tool for engagement and marketing, illustrated by Burberry&#8217;s innovative approach to integrating their brand into a [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>“Video games are the consumer touchpoint of the twenty-first century.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Don’t&nbsp;copy and paste old playbooks.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“When people play, their masks come off.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p><br>In this episode, Kelly Leonard interviews James Kimmel Jr., a clinical professor and author, about his book &#8216;The Science of Revenge.&#8217; They explore the neuroscience behind revenge, its addictive nature, and how it manifests in real-life scenarios. Kimmel shares compelling stories, including those of mass violence, and discusses the role of mental illness in revenge-seeking behavior. The conversation also delves into the healing power of forgiveness and the societal implications of revenge in the age of social media. Kimmel emphasizes the importance of understanding and addressing revenge as a mental health issue, advocating for forgiveness as a means to break the cycle of violence and promote healing.</p>


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<p>&#8220;Revenge is a kind of addiction.&#8221;</p>



<p>&#8220;Forgiveness stops pain.&#8221;</p>



<p>&#8220;This can get better and it will.&#8221;</p>


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									<author>dmarzullo@wgnradio.com (WGN Plus)</author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Kelly Leonard interviews James Kimmel Jr., a clinical professor and author, about his book &amp;#8216;The Science of Revenge.&amp;#8217; They explore the neuroscience behind revenge, its addictive nature, and how it manifests in real-life scenarios. Kimmel shares compelling stories, including those of mass violence, and discusses the role of mental illness in revenge-seeking [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>WGN Plus</itunes:author><itunes:summary>In this episode, Kelly Leonard interviews James Kimmel Jr., a clinical professor and author, about his book &amp;#8216;The Science of Revenge.&amp;#8217; They explore the neuroscience behind revenge, its addictive nature, and how it manifests in real-life scenarios. Kimmel shares compelling stories, including those of mass violence, and discusses the role of mental illness in revenge-seeking [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:summary><itunes:keywords>WGN,Radio,Plus,Second,City,Works,Kelly,Leonard,visionaries,authors,leaders,creativity,commerce</itunes:keywords></item>
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											<description><![CDATA[Margaret Andrews leads a popular class at Harvard University that she has turned into the book: “Manage Yourself to Lead Others: Why Great Leadership Begins with Self-Understanding.&#8221; “Leadership is ultimately about relationships.”&#160; “Each new level of leadership requires a new level of us.”&#160; “Leadership is, in many ways, a creative act.”]]></description>
					
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<p>Margaret Andrews leads a popular class at Harvard University that she has turned into the book: “Manage Yourself to Lead Others: Why Great Leadership Begins with Self-Understanding.&#8221;</p>


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<p>“Leadership is ultimately about relationships.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Each new level of leadership requires a new level of us.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Leadership is, in many ways, a creative act.”</p>


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<p>“Rationality is an assumption in economics, not a demonstrated fact.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“People are not thinking enough about what everyone else is thinking.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Roughly speaking, losses hurt us about twice as much as gains.&#8221;</p>


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<p>“By all means, keep it real – just don’t make everyone else suffer for it.”</p>



<p>“Everybody loves change until they have to&nbsp;do it themselves.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Most of us inhabit multiple selves.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“We’re&nbsp;living in an age of unprecedented individualism.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>“Both researchers and the popular media don’t talk much about talking.”&nbsp;</p>



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									<author>dmarzullo@wgnradio.com (WGN Plus)</author><itunes:subtitle>Kelly talks to&amp;#160;Maryellen&amp;#160;MacDonald, a cognitive scientist with a focus on psycholinguistics, the study of how we comprehend, produce, and learn languages. Her new book is called, “More Than Words: How Talking Sharpens the Mind and Shapes Our World.&amp;#8221; “Both researchers and the popular media don’t talk much about talking.”&amp;#160; “Talking doesn’t&amp;#160;just let us communicate. It [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>WGN Plus</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Kelly talks to&amp;#160;Maryellen&amp;#160;MacDonald, a cognitive scientist with a focus on psycholinguistics, the study of how we comprehend, produce, and learn languages. Her new book is called, “More Than Words: How Talking Sharpens the Mind and Shapes Our World.&amp;#8221; “Both researchers and the popular media don’t talk much about talking.”&amp;#160; “Talking doesn’t&amp;#160;just let us communicate. It [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:summary><itunes:keywords>WGN,Radio,Plus,Second,City,Works,Kelly,Leonard,visionaries,authors,leaders,creativity,commerce</itunes:keywords></item>
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<p>Kelly talks to Martin Dubin, a clinical psychologist, serial entrepreneur, business coach, and adviser to C-suite executives and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs, about his new book: “Blindspotting: How to See What’s Holding You Back as a Leader.”</p>


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<p>“Things go well until they don’t.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“We are not as self-aware as we believe.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Your identity is the least fixed part of you.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Alarms ring; they don’t&nbsp;teach. And often when an alarm rings for too long, we tune it out.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Spoken words are the precursor of all precursors to reading.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>Kelly digs in with author Keir Graff, who has written a new book about a legendary building in the Windy City, “Chicago’s Fine Arts Building: Music, Magic and Murder.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>&#8220;All passes – Art alone endures.”</p>



<p>“You’ll&nbsp;feel as you’ve&nbsp;just stepped out of a time machine.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>“Connection is vital for life.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Our brains are wired for fear.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Time is our most nonrenewable resource.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Happiness is a temporary state, not a life goal.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>Kelly has a fascinating conversation with psychologist and professor Caroline Fleck to discuss her new book “Validation: How the Skill Set That Revolutionized Psychology Will Transform Your Relationships, Increase Your Influence, and Change Your Life.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>Kelly reconnects with Northeastern University professor Laura Huang to dig into the science behind intuition and gut feelings. Her new book is called, “You Already Know: The Science of Mastering Your Intuition.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Gut feel is related to emotional intelligence.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Our gut feel&nbsp;whispers to us, and we don’t often listen.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>&nbsp;“We usually recognize our Spidey sense most easily.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“The hard truth is that conflict isn’t the&nbsp;problem. We are.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Conflict resilience is not comfortable.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Implicit bias – kills our curiosity and blunts our ability to listen well.”&nbsp;</p>


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									<author>dmarzullo@wgnradio.com (WGN Plus)</author><itunes:subtitle>Kelly sits across the table from Robert Bordone and Dr. Joel Salinas who have written the new book “Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In.”&amp;#160; “The hard truth is that conflict isn’t the&amp;#160;problem. We are.”&amp;#160; “Conflict resilience is not comfortable.”&amp;#160; “Implicit bias – kills our curiosity and blunts our ability to listen [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>WGN Plus</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Kelly sits across the table from Robert Bordone and Dr. Joel Salinas who have written the new book “Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In.”&amp;#160; “The hard truth is that conflict isn’t the&amp;#160;problem. We are.”&amp;#160; “Conflict resilience is not comfortable.”&amp;#160; “Implicit bias – kills our curiosity and blunts our ability to listen [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:summary><itunes:keywords>WGN,Radio,Plus,Second,City,Works,Kelly,Leonard,visionaries,authors,leaders,creativity,commerce</itunes:keywords></item>
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											<description><![CDATA[Steve Magness was one of the whistleblowers who brought down Nike&#8217;s Alberto Salazar. It was a decision that would cost Steve a decade of his life. It also led him to study the true science of great performance. Kelly talks to Steve about his terrific new book, “Win the Inside Game: How to Move from [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>Steve Magness was one of the whistleblowers who brought down Nike&#8217;s Alberto Salazar. It was a decision that would cost Steve a decade of his life. It also led him to study the true science of great performance. Kelly talks to Steve about his terrific new book, “Win the Inside Game: How to Move from Surviving to Thriving, and Free Yourself Up to Perform.”</p>


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<p>“Whistleblowing was miserable.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“We now occupy a world that is too big for our minds to handle.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“If we let it, failure brings clarity.”&nbsp;</p>
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									<author>dmarzullo@wgnradio.com (WGN Plus)</author><itunes:subtitle>Steve Magness was one of the whistleblowers who brought down Nike&amp;#8217;s Alberto Salazar. It was a decision that would cost Steve a decade of his life. It also led him to study the true science of great performance. Kelly talks to Steve about his terrific new book, “Win the Inside Game: How to Move from [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>WGN Plus</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Steve Magness was one of the whistleblowers who brought down Nike&amp;#8217;s Alberto Salazar. It was a decision that would cost Steve a decade of his life. It also led him to study the true science of great performance. Kelly talks to Steve about his terrific new book, “Win the Inside Game: How to Move from [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:summary><itunes:keywords>WGN,Radio,Plus,Second,City,Works,Kelly,Leonard,visionaries,authors,leaders,creativity,commerce</itunes:keywords></item>
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											<description><![CDATA[Kelly connects with Daisy Auger-Dominguez who once held the position of Global Chief People Officer at Vice Media Group. Her new book is called, “Burnt Out to Lit Up: How to Reignite the Joy of Leading People.”&#160; “Everybody wants to manage people until they have to&#160;manage people.”&#160; “Management is like a high-wire act of care.”&#160; [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>Kelly connects with Daisy Auger-Dominguez who once held the position of Global Chief People Officer at Vice Media Group. Her new book is called, “Burnt Out to Lit Up: How to Reignite the Joy of Leading People.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Everybody wants to manage people until they have to&nbsp;manage people.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Management is like a high-wire act of care.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Lousy managers equal lousy work vibes.”&nbsp;</p>


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									<author>dmarzullo@wgnradio.com (WGN Plus)</author><itunes:subtitle>Kelly has a fascinating conversation with University of Toronto professor Christopher DiCarlo where they discuss his new book: “Building a God: The Ethics of Artificial Intelligence&amp;#160;and the Race to Control It.”&amp;#160; “Let me be very clear: the threat from AI of existential risk and annihilation to humanity is very real.”&amp;#160; “The word ‘robot’ is derived [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>WGN Plus</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Kelly has a fascinating conversation with University of Toronto professor Christopher DiCarlo where they discuss his new book: “Building a God: The Ethics of Artificial Intelligence&amp;#160;and the Race to Control It.”&amp;#160; “Let me be very clear: the threat from AI of existential risk and annihilation to humanity is very real.”&amp;#160; “The word ‘robot’ is derived [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:summary><itunes:keywords>WGN,Radio,Plus,Second,City,Works,Kelly,Leonard,visionaries,authors,leaders,creativity,commerce</itunes:keywords></item>
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<p>Kelly welcomes renowned playwright, poet and teacher Sarah Ruhl back to the podcast. Sarah is a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, a Tony Award nominee, and the recipient of the MacArthur Genius Fellowship. She has a new book, it’s&nbsp;called “Lessons from My Teachers.”&nbsp;</p>


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									<author>dmarzullo@wgnradio.com (WGN Plus)</author><itunes:subtitle>Kelly welcomes renowned playwright, poet and teacher Sarah Ruhl back to the podcast. Sarah is a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, a Tony Award nominee, and the recipient of the MacArthur Genius Fellowship. She has a new book, it’s&amp;#160;called “Lessons from My Teachers.”&amp;#160; “Our phones can give us facts but not story; information, but not relation.”&amp;#160; [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>WGN Plus</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Kelly welcomes renowned playwright, poet and teacher Sarah Ruhl back to the podcast. Sarah is a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, a Tony Award nominee, and the recipient of the MacArthur Genius Fellowship. She has a new book, it’s&amp;#160;called “Lessons from My Teachers.”&amp;#160; “Our phones can give us facts but not story; information, but not relation.”&amp;#160; [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:summary><itunes:keywords>WGN,Radio,Plus,Second,City,Works,Kelly,Leonard,visionaries,authors,leaders,creativity,commerce</itunes:keywords></item>
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<p>“Mentors talk to you; sponsors talk about you.”</p>



<p>“The key to effective sponsorship is trust.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Performance is not the driver of who gets promoted; perceived potential is.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Before you can align with others, you have to know what you want.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>“We are fighting for attention. We want to be seen.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Behavioral residues are the by-product of our lives.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>Kelly connects with Raffi Grinberg, a business leader, author, and educator based in Washington, DC. When teaching at Boston College, Raffi created a popular class called &#8220;Adulting 101.&#8221; He&#8217;s turned the teachings from that class into the book, &#8220;How to Be a Grownup.&#8221;&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Many newly minted adults are more educated than ever, yet more lost than ever.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Knowledge is pointless unless you know what you want.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“The most useful skill for any career is empathy.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Talking about money often ranks high on the list of least favorite conversations.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Productive fighting is better for a relationship than poor communication.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>Kelly connects with CEO Wes Adams and Professor Tamara Myles about their new book, “Meaningful Work: How to Ignite Passion and Performance in Every Employee.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Trust at work – like in improv – is the oil that keeps the gears turning smoothly.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Storytelling can be a powerful tool to create belonging.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Micromanagement is a meaning killer.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Wild courage will change your life.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Serendipity isn’t found; it’s made.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>&#8220;Cops are dropped into a scene and they have to improv every single thing they do in the field.&#8221;</p>



<p>&#8220;This is what the police have to do every day. We just don&#8217;t call it improv.&#8221;</p>



<p>&#8220;Communication is everything.&#8221;</p>


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<p>“Improv taught me I can rely on others to supply their side of the interaction.&#8221;</p>



<p>“Behaving against our natures doesn’t bother us as much as we fear it might.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“In improv, as in life, sometimes it helps to just make a choice, weird though it might be.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“So much of the historical record was written with silence.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“I discovered my faith in the capacity&nbsp;of words to help me know myself and the people who made me.&#8221;</p>



<p>“This book is a dialogue with my family. It is also a dialogue with those who write about the past in which my family made its&nbsp;way.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>Kelly connects with Dannagal&nbsp;Goldthwaite Young, a professor in the Department of Communication at the University of Delaware. Her research interests include political media effects, public opinion, political satire&nbsp;and the psychology of political humor. Her books include&nbsp;<em>Irony and Outrage</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>Wrong.&nbsp;</em>She&#8217;s also an improviser.&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“First rule of comedy: know your audience.”&nbsp;</p>



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											<description><![CDATA[Kelly talks to University of Michigan Professor Ethan Kross about his new book: “Shift: Managing Your Emotions – So They Don’t Manage You.” “Emotions aren’t&#160;good or bad; they are just information.”&#160; “There are things you can control and things&#160;you can’t. Emotions are both.”&#160; “The effect music has on our emotions feels like magic.”&#160;]]></description>
					
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<p>“Emotions aren’t&nbsp;good or bad; they are just information.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“There are things you can control and things&nbsp;you can’t. Emotions are both.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“The effect music has on our emotions feels like magic.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Disproving someone else’s experiment can be a death wish in science.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Most academic bio-scientists&nbsp;depend on the National Institute of Health to keep the lights on.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Eleven of sixteen FDA medical examiners who worked on twenty-eight drug approvals&nbsp;left the agency to become employees or consultants for the companies they recently regulated.”</p>


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											<description><![CDATA[Kelly hosts a special Valentine&#8217;s Day Bonus Pod with professors Eli Finkel and Paul Eastwick who host the &#8220;Love Factually&#8221; podcast. Eli and Paul are relationship scientists at Northwestern and The University of California, Davis. Their podcast looks at a modern romantic comedy each week through the lens of the science of relationships.&#160; &#8220;Relationship outcomes [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>Kelly hosts a special Valentine&#8217;s Day Bonus Pod with professors Eli Finkel and Paul Eastwick who host the &#8220;Love Factually&#8221; podcast. Eli and Paul are relationship scientists at Northwestern and The University of California, Davis. Their podcast looks at a modern romantic comedy each week through the lens of the science of relationships.&nbsp;</p>


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<p>&#8220;Relationship outcomes depend not only on the specific qualities of each partner but also on the unique patterns that emerge&nbsp;when the partners’ qualities intersect.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“There isn’t&nbsp;just one true and proper way to love, to relate, to bond, to touch.&#8221;</p>



<p>“Motivated reasoning is a cognitive process where people use reason to support their existing beliefs or desires and lay at the heart of ‘When Harry Met Sally.’”</p>


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									<author>dmarzullo@wgnradio.com (WGN Plus)</author><itunes:subtitle>Kelly hosts a special Valentine&amp;#8217;s Day Bonus Pod with professors Eli Finkel and Paul Eastwick who host the &amp;#8220;Love Factually&amp;#8221; podcast. Eli and Paul are relationship scientists at Northwestern and The University of California, Davis. Their podcast looks at a modern romantic comedy each week through the lens of the science of relationships.&amp;#160; &amp;#8220;Relationship outcomes [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>WGN Plus</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Kelly hosts a special Valentine&amp;#8217;s Day Bonus Pod with professors Eli Finkel and Paul Eastwick who host the &amp;#8220;Love Factually&amp;#8221; podcast. Eli and Paul are relationship scientists at Northwestern and The University of California, Davis. Their podcast looks at a modern romantic comedy each week through the lens of the science of relationships.&amp;#160; &amp;#8220;Relationship outcomes [&amp;#8230;]</itunes:summary><itunes:keywords>WGN,Radio,Plus,Second,City,Works,Kelly,Leonard,visionaries,authors,leaders,creativity,commerce</itunes:keywords></item>
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											<description><![CDATA[Kelly connects with Dr. Steven J. Heine, Professor of Social and Cultural Psychology at the University of British Columbia. They discuss his new book, “Start Making Sense: How Existential Psychology Can&#160;Help Build Meaningful Lives in Absurd Times.&#8221; “The world seems confusing, and people no longer seem to agree on the basic facts of what is [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>Kelly connects with Dr. Steven J. Heine, Professor of Social and Cultural Psychology at the University of British Columbia. They discuss his new book, “Start Making Sense: How Existential Psychology Can&nbsp;Help Build Meaningful Lives in Absurd Times.&#8221;</p>


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<p>“The world seems confusing, and people no longer seem to agree on the basic facts of what is happening around them.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“In many ways our learning is facilitated&nbsp;through stories.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“We risk a lot if we’re&nbsp;unable to weave all the different threads of our&nbsp;self together.”</p>


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											<title>Getting to Yes, And… | Kalifa Oliver – ‘I Think I Love My Job’</title>
					
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<p>Kelly converses with Kalifa Oliver, an international experience coach, executive advisor, keynote speaker, author and expert in building brilliant experiences using people-centered design and analytics. Her new book is called, “I Think I Love My Job: Secrets to Designing a People-Centered Employer Value Proposition (That You Can Actually Boast About.” </p>


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<p>“You simply cannot predict the human experience.” </p>



<p>“Your employees are another set of customers.” </p>



<p>“Culture cannot just be shaped from the top. It starts at the bottom.” </p>


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<p>“Conversation is an ongoing act of co-creation.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“We’re all making it up as we go along.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>“It feels like we are at war.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“It is true: we are safer today than we were at the dawn of humanity. But we don’t&nbsp;feel safer.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“If other people’s pain is like a whisper on the wind, our own pain is a scream in our ear.”&nbsp;</p>
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<p>“A True no is a process, not a snap judgment.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Defiance first requires that we know our values.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Curiosity can be an effective way to approach others, opening pathways to change.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Speaking is not a sidecar to being human.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Great communication is you, when&nbsp;you are at your most other-focused.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Speaking is actually closer&nbsp;to an athletic event than a decision-tree flowchart of ideas.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>&#8220;Ensemble lay at the heart of the work at Second City.&#8221;</p>



<p>&#8220;The Second City&#8217;s creative process is sacred to the work done on its stages and in its classrooms.&#8221;</p>



<p>&#8220;As Alison Riley used to say, at The Second City &#8211; two wrongs make a tradition.&#8221;</p>


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<p>“Just talking to the same people is not a recipe&nbsp;for generating ideas.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>“The future lies in a combination of technical skills and human skills.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Traditional four-year degrees are no longer seen as the only path to a successful career.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Technology is, to an extent, only an enabler.”&nbsp;</p>


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									<author>dmarzullo@wgnradio.com (WGN Plus)</author><itunes:subtitle>Kelly sits down with Alok Sama, the former President and CFO of SoftBank Group International to discuss his new book ‘The Money Trap: Lost Illusions Inside the Tech Bubble.” “Impressing powerful men is a core skill for investment bankers.&amp;#8221; “The world romanticizes the&amp;#160;causal relationship between adversity and breakout success.”&amp;#160; “Money doesn’t talk, it swears.”&amp;#160;</itunes:subtitle><itunes:author>WGN Plus</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Kelly sits down with Alok Sama, the former President and CFO of SoftBank Group International to discuss his new book ‘The Money Trap: Lost Illusions Inside the Tech Bubble.” “Impressing powerful men is a core skill for investment bankers.&amp;#8221; “The world romanticizes the&amp;#160;causal relationship between adversity and breakout success.”&amp;#160; “Money doesn’t talk, it swears.”&amp;#160;</itunes:summary><itunes:keywords>WGN,Radio,Plus,Second,City,Works,Kelly,Leonard,visionaries,authors,leaders,creativity,commerce</itunes:keywords></item>
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<p>“I sometimes ask executives, ‘Will anyone tell you your joke isn’t&nbsp;funny?’”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“At its core, culture intelligence is about how we connect with another as humans.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Words are never just words. Their meaning is always rooted in context.”&nbsp;</p>
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<p>“And so, like sun and moon and oxygen&nbsp;and ionosphere, Johnny Carson was always there, reliable and steadfast.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“He was also mothered by omission.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Work was easy for him, family was not.”</p>


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											<description><![CDATA[Kelly talks with Lindsey Cormack, a tenured professor of Political Science at Stevens Institute of Technology about her latest book “How to Raise a Citizen (And Why It’s Up to You to Do It).”  “Politics doesn’t&#160;have to feel as dire as it sometimes does.”&#160; “The system of voting is too complicated.”&#160; “It’s&#160;hard to trust something you [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>Kelly talks with Lindsey Cormack, a tenured professor of Political Science at Stevens Institute of Technology about her latest book “How to Raise a Citizen (And Why It’s Up to You to Do It).” </p>


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<p>“Politics doesn’t&nbsp;have to feel as dire as it sometimes does.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“The system of voting is too complicated.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“It’s&nbsp;hard to trust something you don&#8217;t&nbsp;know a lot about.”&nbsp;</p>
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											<title>Getting to Yes, And… | Sarah Jaffe – ‘From The Ashes’</title>
					
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											<description><![CDATA[Kelly connects with journalist Sarah Jaffe who wrote the best seller &#8220;Work Won&#8217;t Love You Back.&#8221; They talk about her new book &#8220;From The Ashes: Grief and Revolution in a World on Fire.&#8221; “In accepting loss we make possible the future.”&#160; “We carry our ghosts with us everywhere.”&#160; “There is no love without pain or [&#8230;]]]></description>
					
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<p>“In accepting loss we make possible the future.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“We carry our ghosts with us everywhere.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“There is no love without pain or loss; this is what grief taught me.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Top performers fall in love with their client’s problems, not their own solutions.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“Tribal living is what made us truly human.”&nbsp;</p>



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<p>Kelly welcomes Dr. Kathleen Smith back to the&nbsp;podcast. Dr. Smith is a licensed therapist and associate faculty member of the Bowen Center for Study&nbsp;of the Family. She is the author of “Everything Isn’t Terrible.” Her new book is called “True to You: A Therapist’s Guide to Stop Pleasing Others and Start Being Yourself.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“We look to others to find ourselves.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“When our fate depends on other people changing, we get stuck.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Sometimes humor is the best way to share your thinking, and sometimes it isn’t.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“You may have truth on your side, but persuasion does not hinge on what is true.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Business is all about give and take, but there is a shelf life for an ask.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Sharing your ups and downs makes you instantly more convincing.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“I didn’t&nbsp;decide until the day after my SATs, because all of&nbsp;my friends were working on their personal essays and I thought, ‘My personal essay is cello,'&#8221;</p>



<p>&#8220;Music is a medium of awe that helps make sense of life’s wonders.”</p>



<p>“I feel like sound is texture. Sound is feeling like I mean, feeling on my skin,&nbsp;like how soft cashmere feels is how it. That&#8217;s&nbsp;my experience, that&#8217;s&nbsp;my lived experience. “&nbsp;</p>
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<p>“We protect our past so we are connected to what came before us and so we understand what lies in front of us – today and tomorrow.&#8221;</p>



<p>“Ultimately, the&nbsp;goal of architecture is to shelter and create spaces that improve human life and foster a sense of belonging,&#8221;</p>



<p>&#8220;For the ironworkers, It’s&nbsp;not how many years you have left – it&#8217;s&nbsp;how many winters.”&nbsp;</p>
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<p>“Improv seeks to widen our mental bubble.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Improvisation is the discourse of paradigm shifts.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Innovation always begins with disruption, a pushback against the dominant culture.”&nbsp;</p>


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<p>“The key to managing your status – and reaping all the benefits that come with it – is showing up as a likeable badass, getting others to see you as both assertive and warm.” </p>



<p>“The faster we talk, the more status we get.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“There is a strong relationship between humor and status. People who have high status engage in more humor.”&nbsp;</p>
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<p>“We’re&nbsp;built by change&nbsp;but we’re&nbsp;not built for change.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“The pursuit of better is about progress, not perfection.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“Fair warning: it takes courage to be curious.”&nbsp;</p>
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<p>“People want what they want, where and when they want it. Those who can give it to them are more likely to win.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“The robots are coming.”&nbsp;</p>



<p>“The customer as king is a tired metaphor. It’s&nbsp;also increasingly accurate.”&nbsp;</p>
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