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Couple of Discrepancies

2022-08-21T20:30:49-04:00

Hello all.
Just noticed a couple of possible discrepancies in the Australian WCW title histories listings.

I noticed that Ernie Ladd has snuck into the list of Austro-Asian title holders. I don't actually think this was the case, he may have possibly held the BK title instead.
Also, in the tournament final for the Austro-Asian tag titles in 1972, it says that Golden and McCord defeated Brute Bernard and Bobby Hart in 1972. Not true. It was actually Bernard and Gary Hart.

Statistics: Posted by Mr Wonderful — 2022/08/21 Sun 8:30 pm — Replies 0 — Views 411

WWE Championship lineages and reign recognition

2020-10-05T01:38:00-04:00

Hello, I just had a few questions on some more WWE Championship lineages and recognitions.

The first one is on Bob Backlund being the WWWF/WWF (World) Heavyweight Champion. I was interested to know if anyone knows why WWE does not recognize the title change in Japan when Backlund lost the title to Antonio Inoki then won the title back before leaving Japan. WWE does not recognize Inoki’s reign at all. I have heard a rumor it was because Vince Sr. did not approve the title change and Vince Jr. also did not like Inoki. But still not sure about all of the actually reasons. If those were some of the reasons or not. Could it also be because it was in a different company and in a different country at the time? Just courteous what the reasons were if anyone really knows. Backlund also had his title held up against Greg Valentine, but got it back and WWE does recognize this either. WWE recognizes Backlund as having one long title reign from when he defeated Billy Graham in 1978 until he lost it to the Iron Sheik in 1983. They don’t count anything that happened in between with Inoki and Valentine. They consider him as being a one time champion during that era and having a almost six year reign as champion.

The other thing is on Ric Flair. He is considered to be a 16 time World Champion. But he is actually from the title histories a 21 or 22 World Champion. Why is it his other reigns are not recognized? And what reigns is it that they actually recognize if anyone really knows?

The final one is on the WCW/WWF/WWE Cruiserweight Championship. I had noticed that for some reason WWE considers the very old and short lived WCW Light Heavyweight Championship to be the same championship as the WCW/WWF/WWE Cruiserweight Championship. They have it as listed as being one and the same. It’s on the same list. It first list the history of the WCW Light Heavyweight title Holders, then list the WCW Cruiserweight title holders then they list the WWF/WWE Cruiserweight title holders. From what I remember WCW never considered the Light Heavyweight title and the Cruiserweight title as being the same. They were considered to be two different championships and not the same by WCW. So I wonder why WWE thinks they are the same. And WWE brings back the Cruiserweight title a few years ago, but they don’t consider it to be the same Cruiserweight title as the other one that was from the WCW/WWF/WWE. They have a separate lineage and recognize it as a new and separate championship. Does anyone know the reasons for this as well? Thank you for your time.

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updates to PNW Tag Team Title, and NWA World Title matches

2020-05-29T10:59:27-04:00

Not sure if you saw these I posted previously, but found some updates for the NWA Title Matches, for various years in Texas, as well as an update for a NWA Title match in Eugene, OR.

10/9/79 Tyler, TX vs Kevin Von Erich
4/20/82 Tyler, TX vs Kevin Von Erich
3/15/84 Laredo, TX vs Kerry Von Erich
7/24/84 Laredo, TX vs Kerry Von Erich

1/11/80 Eugene, OR vs Buddy Rose (won the tournament the prior week to face Harley). However google news archives doesn't have the paper for that card, so unclear what the result was.

Now for the Northwest Tag Team Title updates. I started in 1973 and went up to 1979. I thought at first I would just be filling in the city information, but as I was going through them, I noticed that some of the dates were incorrect as well.

Not sure of the best way to do this, I guess I'll go down the list of what you have, and put my changes in parenthesis..Thankfully, Portland, Eugene, Salem, and Seattle have their papers online, and most of the title changes took place in those cities.

Bull Ramos and Clay Spencer 6/1/73 --- (This is most likely 5/29/73 West Albany, OR, where the Tag Title Match took place between the 2 teams.)
Al Madril and Jose Gonzales 7/2/73 --- (This is 6/21/73 in Salem, OR. Also, Jose Gonazales was going by Manny Cruz in the writeups I saw online.)
Bull Ramos and Ripper Collins 8/11/73 --- (Portland, OR)
Dutch Savage and Jimmy Snuka [2] 3/22/74 --- (This is probably 4/5/74 in Eugene, OR where Savage and Snuka were challengers and won the match)
Royal Kangaroos [4] 2/27/75 --- (This is most likely 1/31/75 in Eugene, OR, as they were already champs on 2/27/75)
Dutch Savage and Jimmy Snuka [3] 12/25/75 --- (Seattle, WA)
Jesse Ventura and Bull Ramos 4/10/76 --- (Portland, OR)
Royal Kangaroos [5] 6/5/76 --- (Portland, OR)
Jesse Ventura and Bull Ramos [2] 6/8/76 --- (Portland, OR)
Dutch Savage and Jimmy Snuka [4] 8/3/76 --- (Portland, OR)
Jesse Ventura and Buddy Rose 10/25/76 --- (Actually 10/23/76 Portland, OR)
Dutch Savage and Jimmy Snuka [5] 11/5/76 --- (Actually 10/30/76 Portland, OR)
Jesse Ventura and Buddy Rose 1/15/77 --- (Portland, OR)
Ron Bass and John Anson 8/7/77 --- (Most likely 8/3/77 Seattle, WA, according to the Salem, OR paper. The Seattle paper has the tag title match, but no result)
Buddy Rose and Ed Wiskowski 12/7/77 --- (Actually 11/26/77 Portland, OR, I'm guessing Moondog Mayne filled in for John Anson, or Mayne had left the area?)
Jesse Ventura and Jerry Oates 3/21/78 --- (Portland, OR, they did defeat Rose and Wiskowski)
Bull Ramos and Iron Sheik 4/18/78 --- (Portland, OR)
Dutch Savage and Jimmy Snuka [6] 6/10/78 --- (Portland, OR)
Buddy Rose and Ed Wiskowski [2] 9/9/78 --- (Portland, OR)
Roddy Piper and Killer Brooks 12/31/78 --- (Tacoma, WA -- I can't confirm this, but in a result I received many years ago, has this a the city of the title change)
Adrian Adonis and Ron Starr 4/3/79 --- (Portland, OR)
Dutch Savage and Stan Stasiak 9/22/79 --- (Portland, OR)
Kiwi Sheepherders [2] 9/29/79 --- (Portland, OR)

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possible update to the Pacific Northwest Tag Team Title

2020-05-04T17:30:30-04:00

According to the Eugene, OR paper, on 11/9/79, The Sheepherders defeated Dutch Savage and Stan Stasiak for the titles.

I'm also trying to research the 9/12/80 listing. The crew was in Eugene, OR that evening, and it's a nearly 5 hour drive from Eugene to Grandview. I'm curious if it was on another date.

When I get some extra time, I'll try to get you the cities for all the other title changes that are missing. You may have them, but if not, I'll see how many I can come up with.

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updates to NWA World Title Matches 1986

2020-04-14T11:20:52-04:00

--Central States--
May/June 1986 Centralia, IL loss via DQ to Bruiser Brody (not sure of date, got this from one of the Apter Magazines.

--Florida--
1/15/86 Fort Lauderdale, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel (cage)
2/11/86 Fort Pierce, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel (cage)
3/12/86 Miami, FL defeated Barry Windham
3/13/86 Arcadia, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel (cage)
3/14/86 Tallahassee, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel (cage)
3/15/86 Nassau, Bahamas vs Wahoo McDaniel
5/12/86 Fort Pierce, FL defeated Barry Windham
5/13/86 Tampa, FL defeated Barry Windham
6/18/86 Miami Beach, FL -- my notes say it was a Southern Title match, with the NWA Title not on the line.
6/19/86 Fort Pierce, FL vs Lex Luger
6/23/86 Sebring, FL vs ???
6/24/86 Tampa, FL defeated Steve Keirn

--Jim Crockett Promotions--
1/15/86 Columbia, SC defeated Dusty Rhodes DQ
1/20/86 Fayetteville, NC vs Dusty Rhodes
1/23/86 Columbia, SC vs Dusty Rhodes
1/24/86 Johnson City, TN vs Dusty Rhodes
1/25/86 Greensboro, NC defeated Dusty Rhodes
2/3/86 Greenville, SC defeated Robert Gibson (Note: TV Taping, not sure if for the title, also not sure if date is correct, I have a 3/23/86 Greenville, SC TV Taping with similar results)
2/8/86 St. Louis, MO - note: Non-Title Steel Cage Match
2/9/86 Asheville, NC DCOR Ron Garvin (afternoon card?)
2/15/86 Greensboro, NC DREW Ron Garvin
2/18/86 Greenville, SC DREW Ron Garvin
2/23/86 Asheville, NC vs Ron Garvin (afternoon card)
2/28/86 Columbia, SC vs Magnum TA
3/1/86 Greensboro, NC DCOR Ron Garvin
3/2/86 Charlotte, NC defeated Magnum TA
3/3/86 Greenville, SC DCOR Ron Garvin
3/8/86 Cincinnati, OH vs Dusty Rhodes
3/21/86 Huntington, WV vs ???
3/30/86 Atlanta, GA defeated Ron Garvin (cage)
4/1/86 Spartanburg, SC vs Magnum TA (note: TV Taping, may not be for title)
4/17/86 Norfolk, VA defeated Ron Garvin
4/21/86 Greenville, SC defeated Robert Gibson (TV Taping, may not be for title)
4/21/86 Fayetteville, NC No Contest Ricky Morton
4/26/86 Charlotte, NC DREW Ricky Morton
5/10/86 Charlotte, NC DDQ Ricky Morton
5/22/86 San Antonio, TX defeated Dusty Rhodes DQ
6/21/86 Norfolk, VA vs Ricky Morton (Texas Death Match, non-title??)
6/22/86 Greensboro, NC DCOR Ricky Morton
6/30/86 Greenville, SC defeated Ricky Morton (Texas Death Match, non-title??)
8/11/86 Greenville, SC vs Dusty Rhodes
9/9/86 Columbia, SC vs Magnum TA (TV Taping, notes I have show it was a "dark match", may not be for the title)
9/11/86 Norfolk, VA defeated Dick Murdoch DQ
9/13/86 Charlotte, NC defeated Dick Murdoch
9/18/86 Green Bay, WI defeated Dusty Rhodes
9/19/86 Bloomington, MN defeated Dusty Rhodes DQ (not Bloomington, Indiana)
9/30/86 Rock Hill, SC vs Dusty Rhodes (TV Taping, may not be for the title)
10/5/86 Roanoke, VA vs ???
10/6/86 Greenville, SC defeated Dick Murdoch
10/7/86 Spartanburg, SC vs Dusty Rhodes (TV Taping dark match, may not be for the title)
10/26/86 Asheville, NC vs Dick Murdoch (Steel Cage)
11/4/86 Wheeling, WV defeated Brad Armstrong (31:40)
12/26/86 Charleston, SC lost via DQ to Nikita Koloff
12/28/86 Greensboro, NC - Was in tag match with Arn Anderson

--Northwest--
3/27/86 Spokane, WA defeated Cocoa Samoa (note at least that's what I have, and the advertisement for the card also lists Cocoa Samoa. Dusty was on the 3/27/86 Norfolk card.)

--Southeast--
1/3/86 Mobile, AL vs Tommy Rich
2/22/86 Georgetown, Grand Cayman Islands vs Tommy Rich
2/23/86 St. Thomas, Virgin Islands vs Tommy Rich
2/26/86 Greenwood, MS defeated Tommy Rich COR?
5/18/86 Pensacola, FL defeated Brad Armstrong
8/29/86 Knoxville, TN vs The Bullet
9/23/86 Columbus, MS vs Wendell Cooley

--note the Grand Cayman and Virgin Islands cards come from Facebook Page Southeastern/Continental Tribute Page. While it's possible Flair flew back and forth to make those dates, I'm not really sure if they're correct?

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possible updates to Florida Titles from FCW (1988)

2020-04-14T09:57:19-04:00

Was researching cards for the Florida Championship Wrestling promotion in 1988, and may have a couple of updates for you in 1988.

For the Florida Title, The Terminator defeated US Steel on 11/30/88 in Tampa, FL.

For the Florida Tag Team Titles, The Nasty Boys defeated Johnny Ace and Terminator on 11/9/88 in Tampa, FL. The writeup is kinda weird, as the original ad has Ace and Terminator defending the belts on that day, but then the results have The Nasty Boys retaining the titles.. Subsequent writeups have the Nasty Boys as the Florida Tag Champs. I'm not sure if the 1/5/89 Nassau listing is correct, as the Nasty Boys defended the title on 1/1/89 in Tampa.

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possible update to the United States Title (San Francisco)

2020-03-06T12:37:37-04:00

Was researching the Las Vegas paper on the geneaologybank website, and I didn't realize Shire's promotion ran there for a time. Tito Anami was the promotor on most of the write ups I came across

Anyhow, there's a card on 1/6/78 with the main event being Dean Ho vs Bob Roop for the United States Title. Tthe results have Dean Ho defeating Roop for the title. This is probably only a local title change, and not recognized by the San Francisco office, I found it interesting none the less, since Roop was gone a few days later. The 1/18/78 card also lists Dean Ho as the new champion defending against Les Thornton.

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Updates to AWA World Title matches..

2020-02-18T12:19:47-04:00

just a few from Southwest..

8/29/79 San Antonio, TX - Nick Bockwinkel defeated Tully Blanchard
10/23/79 San Antonio, TX - Nick Bockwinkel defeated Wahoo McDaniel by Disqualification
10/24/79 Harlingen, TX - Nick Bockwinkel vs Wahoo McDaniel

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Confusion on WWE title recognitions

2020-02-16T18:38:48-04:00

Hello, I have noticed some things that WWE and some other promotions (but mainly WWE) do as far as how they recognize history for their championships. When reading certain things it seems like when they have had a title like the big gold belt they have recognized or mentioned that they have considered it to be the same title from WCW and even NWA,but then when they used it, it had its own history or lineage separate from WCW and even the NWA. Yet, for the United States title that they have that was also from NWA/WCW, they consider it to have the same history and lineage. The lineage is not separated for the U.S. title like it is for the history of the big gold belt. And for the ECW World title when WWE used that several years ago, they recognized their title reigns as the same as the original ECW, but they did not recognize the history of the championship as part of the lineage when the Championship was first known as Eastern Championship Wrestling. And another thing that is strange about how WWE considers things is that on their title history listed on their web site they recognize the entire history of the ECW World Television Title even from the Eastern Championship Wresting days, but do not recognize the entire history of the ECW World Heavyweight title. For the ECW World Heavyweight Title they start from Shane Douglas when they first became Extreme Championship Wrestling from until Ezekiel Jackson who held the title in WWE.And here they own the rights to both WCW and ECW. So they can claim the lineage if they wanted to as being one in the same. What do you think or may know about this? Is it possibly to have come from the same history, but can still have a separate lineage?

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possible updates to the Southeastern Titles (Knoxville)

2020-01-29T17:38:14-04:00

Tried to do this yesterday, but had to take care of some stuff, and go logged out, and didn't save my post, LOL.

Anyways, maybe I can condense it.

--Southeastern Tag Team Titles--
On 5/12/78 Robert Fuller and Jimmy Golden defeated Dennis Condrey and Bob Roop for the titles. According to the Knoxville Sentinal, Roop was the Mystery Partner for Condrey.

--Southeastern Title--
This gets messy. All dates are from Knoxville, TN

According to the results, on 5/12/78 Ron Fuller defeated the Mongolian Stomper, so the title couldn't have changed there, as Ron Garvin was in a match with Don Carson.

On 5/19/78 Ron Garvin defeats The Stomper by DQ, still no title change.

On 5/26/78, Ron Garvin defeats both The Stomper and Don Carson, in what the advertisement bills as a Southeastern Title Match. Though, the results don't specifically say he won the title.

On 6/2/78, there is a Southeastern Title pole match between the Stomper and Garvin, with the title being on top of the pole. Whomever gets the belt is the champion. Well, according to the results, the match was a No Contest, as the belt fell off the pole. The ad didn't say who was the champion.

On 6/9/78, the advertisement lists Ron Garvin as the champion, and he goes on to defeat The Stomper via DQ that night.

On 6/16/78 Garvin won the match against the Stomper, but due to the "shenanigans" surrounding the outcome, the title was declared vacant the next day on TV.

6/23/78 Stomper wins the title defeating Ron Slinker.

Fast forward to August. The newspaper shows Robert Fuller defeating the Stomper on 8/11/78 for the Title.

The next week, 8/18, The Stomper defeats Fuiler, but the result I have is by DQ. The paper however, doesn't list a DQ victory, but also doesn't say if the Stomper won the title. I think they would have, since they reported the Tag Title win that night.

I found some new results for 9/1/78. It was a 2 night tournament (started 8/31) for a mink coat, and also a shot for the World Title.

On 9/1/78 Boris Malenko defeated Robert Fuller. It doesn't say if it was for the title, but the next week, on 9/8, Boris Malenko goes into the match as the champion against Ronnie Garvin.

Without all the TV results and notes, kinda hard to say where Fuller may have won or lost the title, but it seems like most of the title changes are in Knoxville.

See, I told you it was messy.

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updates to NWA World Title Matches 1985..

2020-01-10T17:24:15-04:00

--Central States--
5/24/85 St. Joseph, MO lost via DQ to Bob Brown (34 minutes, Flair threw Brown over top rope)

--Florida--
1/5/85 Lakeland, FL d. Dutch Mantel
1/16/85 Fort Lauderdale, FL vs Michael Hayes
2/4/85 West Palm Beach, FL vs Brian Blair
3/25/85 West Palm Beach, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel
3/28/85 Cocoa, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel
5/6/85 Fort Myers, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel
5/8/85 Miami Beach, FL L via DQ to Kerry Von Erich (Wahoo is in tag match with Mulligan - according to Miami News 5/9/85)
6/19/85 Port Orange, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel
7/15/85 West Palm Beach, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel
7/17/85 Fort Lauderdale, FL d. Billy Jack Haynes
8/12/85 West Palm Beach, FL d. Wahoo McDaniel (Indian Strap Match)
9/18/85 Fort Lauderdale, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel (cage)
10/12/85 Jacksonville, FL vs Wahoo McDaniel (cage)

Georgia
12/25/85 Atlanta, GA d. Dusty Rhodes

ICW
6/6/85 Warwick, RI vs David Schultz (rather than 6/13?)

Mid-Atlantic
1/6/85 Asheville, NC vs Manny Fernandez (Afternoon?)
1/22/85 Spartanburg, SC NC Wahoo McDaniel (TV Taping, non-title?)
1/31/85 Mineral, VA vs Tully Blanchard
2/25/85 Fayetteville, NC vs Wahoo McDaniel
3/2/85 Greenville, SC d. Wahoo McDaniel (afternoon?)
4/14/85 Richmond, VA d. Wahoo McDaniel (Indian Strap Match - afteroon? evening?)
6/7/85 Wilmington, NC vs Magnum TA (both failed to appear)
7/22/85 Greenville, SC d. Buddy Landell
7/25/85 Laurinburg, NC vs Buddy Landell
8/5/85 Greenville, SC DCOR Nikita Koloff
8/30/85 Richmond, VA d. Nikita Koloff
9/3/85 Gaffney, SC vs Krusher Khruschev (TV Taping, Non-title?)
9/8/85 Roanoke, VA d. Buddy Landell (afternoon?)
9/10/85 Shelby, NC vs Ivan Koloff (TV Taping, Non-title?)
11/12/85 Shelby, NC vs Sam Houston (TV Taping, Non-title?)

--Rickard Promotion--
2/8/85 Kallang or Geylang, Singapore vs Steve Rickard (held in Gay World Stadium)
2/9/85 Kallang or Geylang, Singapore vs Lars Anderson (Chain match) (held in Gay World Stadium)

--Northwest--
4/8/85 The Dalles, OR d. Bobby Jaggers (rather than Dallas, TX)

--Puerto Rico--
12/20/85 Guayama, PR vs Carlos Colon

--Southeast--
1/22/85 Mobile, AL vs Bob Armstrong
2/17/85 Montgomery, AL vs Austin Idol (Afternoon)
2/19/85 Mobile, AL vs Robert Fuller
6/5/85 Mobile, AL vs Lord Humongous

--Mid-South-
4/28/85 Oklahoma City, OK d. Terry Taylor
4/28/85 Tulsa, OK d. Kerry Von Erich
5/2/85 Alexandria, LA d. Terry Taylor (31:02)
6/20/85 Jackson, MS vs Terry Taylor
7/8/85 New Orleans, LA vs Butch Reed
7/28/85 Tulsa, OK d. Dusty Rhodes (afternoon)
7/28/85 Oklahoma City, OK vs Kevin Von Erich (evening, first blood match)
7/30/85 Jackson, MS vs Dick Murdoch
8/??/85 Pine Bluff, AR vs Dick Murdoch or Butch Reed ***
8/7/85 Alexandria, LA DREW Jim Duggan
8/9/85 Baton Rouge, LA d. Dick Murdoch DQ
9/4/85 Alexandria, LA vs Jim Duggan
10/2/85 Alexandria, LA lost via DQ to Jim Duggan
10/29/85 Baton Rouge, LA vs Butch Reed (note this may be for 11/5)
11/5/85 Baton Rouge, LA vs Butch Reed
11/6/85 Shreveport, LA d. Ted DiBiase (COR) (actual date of TV Taping, not 11/17)
11/21/85 Biloxi, MS vs Butch Reed
11/24/85 Oklahoma City, OK d. Jake Roberts
11/25/85 Jackson, MS vs Butch Reed
12/1/85 Lafayette, LA vs Jim Duggan
12/7/85 Shreveport, LA vs Butch Reed
12/9/85 New Orleans, LA vs Butch Reed
12/18/85 Tulsa, OK d. Al Perez (TV Taping, non-title?)

***on the Mid-South Universe Appreciation FB page, there's a video of Ric Flair doing promos for all the towns he's supposed to wrestle in the Mid-South the first week of August. He seems to do Pine Bluff twice and lists both Murdoch and Reed as opponents. Without an available newspaper, not sure which one he was supposed to face.

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Steve Casey and the AWA duration title

2020-01-02T12:03:34-04:00

I wrote this on facebook but also decided to archive it here just in case.

After previously being discharged, Steve Casey was brought back to the U.S. Army in 1942/01 and was stationed in Porthmouth, NH (The Porthmouth Herald, 1942/01/30). He continued to wrestle and regained the AWA world heavyweight title from French Angel in May but was sidelined as a wrestler in the summer due to a back injury he suffered "in a tumbling exhibition several weeks ago" (The Boston Globe, 1942/09/03). Casey received medical discharge in late 1943 ("about a month ago", The Porthmouth Herald, 1943/12/08). Contrary to what has been believed for long time, Casey might have never left the country as he made guest appearances for various events including wrestling cards as a referee and USO shows during this time.

Regardless, a tournament was held to crown the war-time "duration" champion, and the Golden Terror defeated Leo Numa in the final on 1943/11/09 in Boston, MA.

Sandor Szabo defeated the Golden Terror on 1944/03/29 in Boston, MA for the duration title and unmasks him as Leon Mahabolsky.

After leaving the Army, Steve Casey headed to Northern California and started defending his title from 1944/01 until 1945/03. He then returned to New England and defeated the duration champion Sandor Szabo in the consolidation match on 1945/04/04 in Boston, MA.

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Possible update to the Pacific International Title.

2019-11-19T18:18:59-04:00

Newspapers.com has a paper from Guam, and according to the report in the 10/17/78 Pacific Daily News, Don Muraco defeated John Studd for the Pacific International Title on 10/15/78 in Mangilao, Guam (George Washington High School was the location, and google maps shows the town as Mangilao.) It was a 2 out of 3 falls match.

Muraco had won a "Texas Battle Royal" the previous night (Same location) to earn the title shot.

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updates to NWA World Title Matches 1984..

2019-11-12T11:55:50-04:00

--Central States--
1/24/84 Miami, OK DDQ Bruiser Brody (I have full results of the 1/24/84 Miami, OK card. It's 75 miles NE of Tulsa, OK. Same result as Tulsa OK, DDQ, I don't recall Brody ever working for Watts.)
1/25/84 Topeka, KS NC Bruiser Brody
7/10/84 Sedalia, MO vs Ted Oates
7/14/84 Des Moines, IA vs Buzz Tyler
10/13/84 Des Moines, IA vs Ted DiBiase
12/29/84 Des Moines, IA vs Bob Brown

--Florida--
1/16/84 Fort Pierce, FL vs Mike Rotundo
1/18/84 Fort Myers, FL vs Mike Rotundo
2/14/84 Fort Myers, FL vs Barry Windham
4/14/84 Nassau, Bahamas vs Barry Windham
5/14/84 West Palm Beach, FL d. Ron Bass DQ
5/15/84 Fort Myers, FL d. Billy Graham (sub Mike Rotundo)
6/29/84 Port Orange, FL vs Dusty Rhodes
7/29/84 Ocala, FL (I have Flair and Angelo Mosca teaming against Mulligan and Windham, in Ocala, but don't have results--most likely 7/29/84 Orlando, FL)
8/4/84 Lakeland, FL d. Billy Graham (afternoon?)
10/28/84 Ocala, FL vs Scott McGhee (afternoon)
10/30/84 Tampa, FL -- I have it as a non-title match
11/14/84 Homestead, FL vs Mike Graham

--Georgia--
12/7/84 Cleveland, OH d. Ron Garvin COR

--Mid-Atlantic--
1/4/84 Spartanburg, SC d. Dick Slater DQ (TV Taping, unsure if non-title)
1/7/84 Jacksonville, NC vs Dory Funk, Jr.
1/18/84 Spartanburg, SC vs Dick Slater (TV Taping, unsure if non-title)
2/5/84 Greenville, SC d. Dick Slater (Lights Out Match, non-title?)
2/10/84 Charleston, SC L Dick Slater (Lights Out Match, most likely non-title?)
2/29/84 Winston-Salem, NC vs Dick Slater (TV Taping, unsure if non-title)
4/25/84 Myrtle Beach, SC d. Dick Slater (TV Taping, unsure if non-title)
7/4/84 Myrtle Beach, SC d. Wahoo McDaniel DQ (TV Taping, listed as a dark match, so may be for the title?)
8/11/84 Wilmington, NC vs Wahoo McDaniel
9/1/84 Greensboro, NC (I have Flair and Mulligan NC with Wahoo and Tully)
11/11/84 Logan, WV vs Ricky Steamboat
11/23/84 Jacksonville, NC vs ???
12/1/84 Conway, SC Lost Via DQ to Tully Blanchard
12/9/84 Charleston, SC d. Tully Blanchard (afternoon?)
12/10/84 Greenville, SC d. Wahoo McDaniel
12/11/84 Spartanburg, SC vs Ron Bass (TV Taping, unsure if non-title)
12/12/84 Raleigh, NC d. Tully Blanchard

-Puerto Rico--
4/1/84 Port of Spain, Trinidad lost via DQ to Carlos Colon
4/2/84 Waterford, Barbados d. Victor Jovica
4/3/84 Port of Spain, Trinidad d. Ray Apollon

--Southeast--
3/7/84 Mobile, AL vs Jimmy Golden
10/16/84 Mobile, AL vs Porkchop Cash (rather than Birmingham, AL)
10/17/84 Pensacola, FL vs Mr. Olympia

--Mid-South--
8/26/84 Tulsa, OK DREW Kerry Von Erich (60 minutes) (I show complete results from both OKC and Tulsa, and the matches are completely different. Though, it's difficult to know the dates of these, as I don't think OKC and Tulsa were posting the cards in the papers any longer?)

--World Class--
1/31/84 Victoria, TX vs David Von Erich
2/4/84 Mission, TX lost via DQ to David Von Erich (afternoon?)
6/21/84 Victoria, TX vs Kevin Von Erich
7/26/84 Victoria, TX vs Kerry Von Erich
11/5/84 Fort Worth, TX (The card/results I have doesn't have Flair listed, however, the Montreal date I have is 11/5 for Flair vs Raymond Rougeau, though I can't confirm it. Monday's were usually Montreal cards if I remember correctly.)

--Maritimes--
8/28/84 Newcastle, New Brunswick vs Stephen Pettipas

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updates to NWA World Title Matches 1983..

2019-11-05T13:11:01-04:00

Georgia, Mid-Atlantic and Florida courtesy of the Clawmaters website.

--Central States--
5/15/83 Des Moines, IA vs Harley Race
5/21/83 Fort Scott, KS vs Manny Fernandez
6/14/83 Joplin, MO vs Dewey Robertson (ad still had Ric Flair defending, but that may have changed)
6/16/83 Kansas City, KS d. Dewey Robertson
7/12/83 Joplin, MO d. George Wells
7/13/83 Decatur, IL Lost Via DQ to Dick the Bruiser
8/9/83 Sedalia, MO vs Buzz Tyler (? as without a subscription to NewspaperArchives.com, can't quite say for sure)
8/11/83 Kansas City, KS d. The Super Destroyer
8/13/83 Des Moines, IA vs Buzz Tyler
8/25/83 Kansas City, KS d. The Super Destroyer (I researched the 8/25/83 Fort Myers, FL paper, but did not see a card for that date)
9/22/83 Kansas City, KS Lost Via DQ to Ted DiBiase
9/24/83 Des Moines, IA vs The Super Destroyer
10/10/83 Wichita, KS vs The Super Destroyer
10/12/83 Des Moines, IA vs Bob Brown
10/13/83 Kansas City, KS NC Hulk Hogan
10/14/83 St. Joseph, MO d. Buzz Tyler (19 minutes)
11/7/83 Wichita, KS d. Buzz Tyler
11/8/83 Falls City, NE d. Buzz Tyler
11/10/83 Kansas City, KS d. Ted DiBiase
11/11/83 El Dorado Springs, MO d. Bob Brown
12/26/83 Wichita, KS vs Bruiser Brody
12/28/83 Des Moines, IA vs Bruiser Brody

--Florida--
4/11/83 West Palm Beach, FL d. Dusty Rhodes DQ
4/15/83 Fort Myers, FL vs Barry Windham
6/20/83 West Palm Beach, FL d. Barry Windham
6/21/83 Tampa, FL d. Scott McGhee (30 minutes)
6/23/83 Fort Myers, FL vs Barry Windham
6/25/83 Orlando, FL d. Barry Windham DQ
7/31/83 Orlando, FL d. Dusty Rhodes
8/1/83 West Palm Beach, FL DREW Mike Graham (60 minutes)
8/2/83 Tampa, FL d. Mike Graham DQ
8/3/83 Miami, FL d. Barry Windham DQ
8/4/83 Jacksonville, FL DDQ Dusty Rhodes
8/14/83 Orlando, FL d. Dusty Rhodes
8/15/83 West Palm Beach, FL d. Dusty Rhodes DQ
8/16/83 Tampa, FL Lost Via DQ to Dusty Rhodes
8/17/83 Fort Lauderdale, FL d. Mike Graham
8/18/83 Jacksonville, FL d. Dusty Rhodes
8/20/83 Sarasota, FL d. Barry Windham DQ (21:04)
8/22/83 West Palm Beach, FL DREW Mike Graham
9/4/83 Ocala, FL vs Barry Windham (afternoon)
9/4/83 Orlando, FL DREW Mike Graham (according to the Orlando Sentinel) (evening)
9/5/83 West Palm Beach, FL d. Mike Graham DQ
9/8/83 Jacksonville, FL d. Barry Windham
9/9/83 Daytona, FL vs Angelo Mosca
9/10/83 Lakeland, FL d. Barry Windham
9/26/83 West Palm Beach, FL d. Barry Windham
9/28/83 Miami Beach, FL Lost Via DQ to Barry Windham (2-1 DQ)
9/29/83 Jacksonville, FL Lost to Blackjack Mulligan (DQ? Non-Title?)
9/30/83 Ocala, FL vs Barry Windham
10/1/83 St. Petersburg, FL NC Dusty Rhodes
10/4/83 Tampa, FL NC Dusty Rhodes (note, according to Tampa Tribune, no wrestling on 10/4/83, so this may be another date or city?; or was it for the 10/1/83 St. Petersburg, FL card?)
10/9/83 Ocala, FL vs Barry Windham (afternoon)
10/9/83 Orlando, FL Lost to Barry Windham (DQ? Non-Title? Evening)
11/13/83 Ocala, FL vs Mike Rotundo (afternoon)
11/13/83 Orlando, FL lost via DQ to Dusty Rhodes (evening)
11/14/83 West Palm Beach, FL d. Dusty Rhodes
11/15/83 Tampa, FL DREW Mike Rotundo (60 minutes)
11/16/83 Miami Beach, FL d. Mike Rotundo (DQ 22:12, Rotundo threw Race over the top rope)
11/17/83 Fort Myers, FL vs Barry Windham
11/18/83 Port Orange, FL vs Barry Windham
11/19/83 St. Petersburg, FL d. Ron Bass

--Georgia--
1/23/83 Atlanta, GA (instead of 1/22? Clawmasters site has 1/23..Searched Atlanta Constitution, but did not see anything definite)
4/4/83 Charleston, WV vs ???
4/5/83 Logan, WV vs ???
4/6/83 Athens, OH vs ???
5/3/83 Williamson, WV vs Tommy Rich

--note the 4/4, 4/5 and 4/6 dates did not have an opponent, or if he even defended the title those days.

--Mid-Atlantic--
7/17/83 Roanoke, VA lost via DQ to Ric Flair (Harley wrestled 3 times that day?)
7/20/83 Winston-Salem, NC vs Ric Flair
7/27/83 Spartanburg, SC lost to Ric Flair (DQ? Non-title?)

--Northwest--
10/16/83 Centralia, WA DDQ Billy Jack
10/17/83 Yakima, WA d. Billy Jack
10/18/83 Portland, OR d. Buddy Rose
10/19/83 Seattle, WA Lost Via DQ to Billy Jack (may remove the question mark)
10/20/83 Salem, OR DREW Billy Jack
10/21/83 Eugene, OR d. Billy Jack

--Puerto Rico--
1/7/83 Caguas, PR d. Hercules Ayala
4/19/83 Port of Spain, Trinidad vs Victor Jovica
4/22/83 Ponce, PR vs Carlos Colon
7/1/83 Ponce, PR d. El Gran Apollo
7/26/83 Port of Spain, Trinidad d. Gama Singh
9/17/83 San Juan, PR DREW Carlos Colon (60 minutes)
12/19/83 Bridgetown, Barbados Lost Via DQ to Carlos Colon

--note as always, the Puerto Rico dates may not be 100% accurate, but seem to fall in line when the champ was there.

--Southeast--
3/15/83 Mobile, AL vs Mr. Olympia
5/24/83 Mobile, AL d. Austin Idol
12/13/83 Mobile, AL vs Bob Armstrong

--World Class--
2/6/83 (or 2/20/83) San Antonio, TX DREW Kerry Von Erich (60 Minutes, Kerry wins 1 fall of 2/3 falls match) (from http://wccwmemories.blogspot.com)
2/3/83 Austin, TX vs David Von Erich
3/29/83 Victoria, TX vs Kevin Von Erich
3/30/83 Brownsville, TX vs Kevin Von Erich
3/31/83 Austin, TX vs Kevin Von Erich
4/2/83 Del Rio, TX vs Kevin Von Erich
6/15/83 Amarillo, TX lost via DQ to Kerry Von Erich
10/2/83 San Antonio, TX lost via DQ to Kevin Von Erich
10/3/83 Fort Worth, TX d. Kamala DQ
10/7/83 Dallas, TX d. Iceman Parsons
11/27/83 San Antonio, TX (note, my listing shows it as a non-title match)

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